The "New" Doctor Who [Archive] - Page 61 - The Superhero Hype! Boards

TheCorpulent1

07-30-2008, 03:04 PM

I pay about $150 per month right now on a household consisting of me and my roommate, each of us with DVR boxes, an HD tier of channels, basic digital cable, and high-speed internet.

I'm canceling the cable and keeping the internet when I move tomorrow, though. Pretty much everything you could ever want to watch on TV is now online anyway, so I figure why bother with the extra expense?

Lord Valumart

07-30-2008, 03:07 PM

I hope they lose the rights to use the Cybermen after this damn Christmas episode. What an inept bunch of useless robots.

as far as i know the bbc own the cybermen so aslong as they can keep the cybus suits from falling to bits we're all set:up::huh:

TheCorpulent1

07-30-2008, 03:08 PM

so people complain that they don't use the Daleks or Cybermen, then people complain when they do....where is the happy medium?
Using them less often, like once every other season, and keeping them out of s*** stories like "Daleks in Manhattan." People would complain less if they reintroduced more classic aliens, too. People were super-excited for the Sontarans when they were announced. Why go back to the Daleks or the Cybermen when there are still Silurians, Sea Devils, Ice Warriors, and more just begging to be touched up with modern special effects?

Lord Valumart

07-30-2008, 03:11 PM

Using them less often, like once every other season, and keeping them out of s*** stories like "Daleks in Manhattan." People would complain less if they reintroduced more classic aliens, too. People were super-excited for the Sontarans when they were announced. Why go back to the Daleks or the Cybermen when there are still Silurians, Sea Devils, Ice Warriors, and more just begging to be touched up with modern special effects?

*cough*macra*cough*

BlackLantern

07-30-2008, 03:13 PM

I think something a little more sinister than those rolling trash cans are needed....i enjoy the Daleks but they have been involved in 3 of the 4 season finales....

Lord Valumart

07-30-2008, 03:16 PM

you know what the new series could really really use?

some goddamn mcgann:cmad:

BlackLantern

07-30-2008, 03:17 PM

you know what the new series could really really use?

some goddamn mcgann:cmad:

You keep waving that flag, LV....someone will see it someday

Manic

07-30-2008, 03:19 PM

You hold out hope for McGann, and I'll continue to hold out hope for Sally Sparrow.

Lord Valumart

07-30-2008, 03:21 PM

You keep waving that flag, LV....someone will see it someday
they better...cause i wants some mcgann dangnambit:cmad:

also more davison would be nice...
You hold out hope for McGann, and I'll continue to hold out hope for Sally Sparrow.

if i stop holding out hope for mcgann will you stop holding ou hope for that sparrow lass?

TheCorpulent1

07-30-2008, 03:22 PM

Manic

07-30-2008, 03:23 PM

if i stop holding out hope for mcgann will you stop holding ou hope for that sparrow lass?
*sigh*
Yes, but the next time you mention McGann, I'm going on the Sparrow brigade.

BlackLantern

07-30-2008, 03:27 PM

I loved Donna's reaction when she saw Jack on the computer screen....

Lord Valumart

07-30-2008, 03:27 PM

Yay for Sally Sparrow!

How would McGann work, though? Best they could do is get him back for a crossover episode. I doubt the BBC will ever shell out the money to cover something as huge as the Time War.
the bbc looked to be willing to gice RTD whatever the hell he wanted...atleast moffat has an awesome series to fall back on if it fails...the world needs more coupling!!
*sigh*
Yes, but the next time you mention McGann, I'm going on the Sparrow brigade.

...how about i keep my flag and we shoot, burn, wee on and nuke yours?

Manic

07-30-2008, 03:30 PM

I didn't want to have to do this, but...

"I'm half human on my mother's side."

Lord Valumart

07-30-2008, 03:31 PM

I didn't want to have to do this, but...

"I'm half human on my mother's side."

dr-ish funny making...nothing more...nothing more...

Manic

07-30-2008, 03:37 PM

You keep telling yourself that.

The Squirrel

07-30-2008, 03:37 PM

dr-ish funny making...nothing more...nothing more...

Whatever helps you sleep at night. :cwink:

TheCorpulent1

07-30-2008, 03:38 PM

the bbc looked to be willing to gice RTD whatever the hell he wanted...atleast moffat has an awesome series to fall back on if it fails...the world needs more coupling!!
But wasn't RTD constantly whining about how he does Earth-based episodes because he couldn't get the money to build alien sets?

Although, for the Time War, it's moot anyway. RTD also said he didn't want to set it in stone and preferred everyone to make that part up for themselves. Kind of dumb, but whatever.

The Squirrel

07-30-2008, 03:43 PM

RTD is just stupid.... He should have left after the first season.

Lord Valumart

07-30-2008, 03:44 PM

But wasn't RTD constantly whining about how he does Earth-based episodes because he couldn't get the money to build alien sets?

Although, for the Time War, it's moot anyway. RTD also said he didn't want to set it in stone and preferred everyone to make that part up for themselves. Kind of dumb, but whatever.

he was only *****ing about that cause he insisted on doing massive CGI macra...

and the time war is pretty much set in stone sicne he wrote the words "time war" on paper...

BlackLantern

07-30-2008, 03:44 PM

I like that the Time War seemed ambiguous......any idea as to who the new companion may be?

SpideyLad

07-30-2008, 03:56 PM

I like that the Time War seemed ambiguous......any idea as to who the new companion may be?

Nothing has been said yet...Although since Moffat is doing it now, people are screaming "HE'S GONNA DO SALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wow:" and he probably won't...

TheCorpulent1

07-30-2008, 04:27 PM

he was only *****ing about that cause he insisted on doing massive CGI macra...

and the time war is pretty much set in stone sicne he wrote the words "time war" on paper...
I know the Time War is set in stone, but the details of it aren't. He said he didn't ever want to actually show the Time War, he just wanted to leave what happened up to viewers' imaginations.

BlackLantern

07-30-2008, 04:29 PM

Nothing has been said yet...Although since Moffat is doing it now, people are screaming "HE'S GONNA DO SALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wow:" and he probably won't...

Well he has had a chav, a black girl, and Donna.....where to go next?

Manic

07-30-2008, 04:31 PM

Well, we know the Doctor ended it by using a Delta Wave that destroyed Gallifrey and killed everyone on it. I can only assume the Daleks had already taken over Gallifrey at the time, since the Doctor told Martha that his side lost, the Master said he ran after the Daleks took over some sort of cruiform, and the Doctor assumed all of the Daleks were dead when he destroyed Gallifrey.

Manic

07-30-2008, 04:33 PM

Well he has had a chav, a black girl, and Donna.....where to go next?
A thick-accented Indian?

TheCorpulent1

07-30-2008, 04:36 PM

A non-chavvy blonde by the name of Sally Sparrow. :)

IronLion

07-30-2008, 04:43 PM

A thick-accented Indian?

they have got rid of the only one who could have played the part........Gita from Eastenders.

The Squirrel

07-30-2008, 04:47 PM

Sally and her b/f should both be companions for season 10.

BlackLantern

07-30-2008, 05:32 PM

I think one companion is enough....you can have another for a couple episodes and lightning struck with Jack Harkness....

I'd like for him to have someone he would see as a protege....Rose was along for the ride, Martha mooned over him, and Donna was just his buddy....

The Squirrel

07-30-2008, 05:36 PM

I'd think 2 companions is fine. It was done in the classic series and should be brought back.

the_ultimate_evil

07-30-2008, 05:49 PM

Wasn't that Davina thing from Rab C Nesbitt?

yep, rab gets him to go after the boss of rabs wife who has been trying it on

xB-M_tYhLGU

Manic

07-30-2008, 05:59 PM

I'd think 2 companions is fine. It was done in the classic series and should be brought back.
And if the series 4 finale has shown us anything, it's that the opening titles can handle more than 2 names flying across the screen.

BlackLantern

07-30-2008, 06:08 PM

and it has shown us that Gwens' Welshness can ugly up anything

Manic

07-30-2008, 06:17 PM

and it has shown us that Gwens' Welshness can ugly up anything
It's not so much Gwen's Welshness as it is Gwen's Gwenness. Ianto is Welsh, and he's not nearly as annoying (when he isn't talking about Lisa).

BlackLantern

07-30-2008, 06:21 PM

both Doctor Who and Torchwood have a decent track record with having pretty women involved, so I don't know how Gwen snuck in there....

Manic

07-30-2008, 06:24 PM

Same way Rose snuck in (oh snap! :wow: )

No, seriously. In the right lighting, from the right angle, when making the right facial expression, Gwen looks pretty good. None of those things happened to her in the recent Who finale, though.

Captain_BluTac

07-30-2008, 06:40 PM

Well he has had a chav, a black girl, and Donna.....where to go next?

Maybe A chavvy, ginger, black girl!

Dope Nose

07-31-2008, 02:52 PM

Well, we know the Doctor ended it by using a Delta Wave that destroyed Gallifrey and killed everyone on it.

we do?

SpideyLad

07-31-2008, 02:53 PM

we do?

In The Parting Of Ways, it was highly alluded to that he did it.

IronLion

07-31-2008, 03:07 PM

did any of you guys read in the sun yesterday, didnt see it on here before, but sm says he is doing mutant cybermen.

Lord Valumart

07-31-2008, 03:12 PM

did any of you guys read in the sun yesterday, didnt see it on here before, but sm says he is doing mutant cybermen.

it was about the christmas ep...so it's RTD not SM...and the sun is probably wrong sicne the cybus cybermen are brain scooped into the suits rather than have their whole body converted...

The Squirrel

07-31-2008, 03:12 PM

Mutant Cyberman?

What happened to no more classic villains that someone mentioned a few pages ago?

SpideyLad

07-31-2008, 03:18 PM

Mutant Cyberman?

What happened to no more classic villains that someone mentioned a few pages ago?

That's when Moffat gets in charge. He's apparently gonna make 'Nostalgia for the future', instead of 'Nostalgia moments now'.

It's clearly gonna fail.:csad:

The Squirrel

07-31-2008, 03:21 PM

That's when Moffat gets in charge. He's apparently gonna make 'Nostalgia for the future', instead of 'Nostalgia moments now'.

It's clearly gonna fail.:csad:

Actually it's about time they start creating the next Daleks or the next Cybermen.

JustABill

07-31-2008, 03:23 PM

Yeah. The only new villains that have recurred I believe were the Slitheen and Cassandra (and she's dead, well sort of)? Oh, and the Graske (but they barely count).

Lord Valumart

07-31-2008, 03:24 PM

Actually it's about time they start creating the next Daleks or the next Cybermen.

they have the krilliatine...the ONLY new series monster worthy of a return...

JustABill

07-31-2008, 03:25 PM

they have the krilliatine...the ONLY new series monster worthy of a return...
Not really. The Krillatine were only so great because of Anthony Stewart Head's performance. :o And I'd rather not see them come up with some convulted way to bring him back. :o

Lord Valumart

07-31-2008, 03:33 PM

Not really. The Krillatine were only so great because of Anthony Stewart Head's performance. :o And I'd rather not see them come up with some convulted way to bring him back. :o

ASH is worthy of a come back...even if he did explode they could just ignore it like they did allthe time in the classic series with davros and the master...and more recently with the daleks always being "wiped out of existance"

JustABill

07-31-2008, 03:35 PM

But the Daleks thing is just getting so silly. :( I don't want to see a great one time character by Anthony Stewart Head fall into that trap.

BlackLantern

07-31-2008, 03:36 PM

shouldn't there also be talk of who the next Doctor might be....isn't Tennats deal up after this upcoming series?

Lord Valumart

07-31-2008, 03:41 PM

But the Daleks thing is just getting so silly. :( I don't want to see a great one time character by Anthony Stewart Head fall into that trap.

but it doesn;t have to be ASH again...could be another lot of krillitaines...

fair enough it wouldn;t be as good but it'd still give us a recurring monster...

JustABill

07-31-2008, 03:42 PM

There is. There's rumors and such, but there's no word on if Tennant will be leaving after the 2009 specials. It was said that Tennant however has made his decision and the Beeb knows by Davies so.

JustABill

07-31-2008, 08:23 PM

Thought LV might like this....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameronkmcewan/2718839075/
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/blogtor-who_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ

Kahoot

08-01-2008, 07:08 AM

My eyes! The goggles do nothing!!!!!!!!!!:wow::wow:
Simpsons Quote!

SpideyLad

08-01-2008, 09:13 AM

Simpsons Quote!

It is indeed. :up:

Dope Nose

08-01-2008, 10:50 AM

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7648/simpsonsbj4.jpg

08-01-2008, 12:16 PM

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7648/simpsonsbj4.jpg
Haha :hehe:

What episode is that from?

Lord Valumart

08-01-2008, 12:20 PM

Thought LV might like this....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameronkmcewan/2718839075/
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/blogtor-who_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ

yeh...i have that UK100 time crash set...i have to say it really is a thing of beauty...like an itallian supercar...or james mays hair....

EDIT
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/valumart/UK100TC.jpg

SpideyLad

08-01-2008, 03:34 PM

yeh...i have that UK100 time crash set...i have to say it really is a thing of beauty...like an itallian supercar...or james mays hair....

EDIT
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/valumart/UK100TC.jpg

It really is the most beautiful thing ever....

I love mine.:csad:

Lord Valumart

08-01-2008, 03:35 PM

It really is the most beautiful thing ever....

I love mine.:csad:

i know...hands are awesome....:up:

SpideyLad

08-01-2008, 04:37 PM

i know...hands are awesome....:up:

The Time Crash set you fool. Not hands...:cmad:

BlackLantern

08-01-2008, 05:35 PM

I overheard a conversation at Comic-Con about the Who-mobile....It frightened me

TheCorpulent1

08-01-2008, 05:54 PM

Bessy?

BlackLantern

08-01-2008, 05:55 PM

that weird looking saucer thing that looks like the hate sex love child of a flying saucer and a Yugo

GhostPoet

08-02-2008, 01:34 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

My DVR didn't record the finale and stupid sci-fi channel doesn't even have Doctor Who on their full episodes list...it's not even on Itunes.

Now how am I gonna watch it?? =(

Magneto29

08-02-2008, 02:08 AM

I'm sure you can find it online... if you know where to look...

Speedball

08-02-2008, 03:20 AM

It's been on the web since June... :dry:
I saw the finale three weeks ago...and I'm in the states...
Shoulda just torrented the show.

The Squirrel

08-02-2008, 04:18 AM

It's been on the web since June... :dry:
I saw the finale three weeks ago...and I'm in the states...
Shoulda just torrented the show.

The show didn't end until July. :huh:

COMPO

08-02-2008, 05:48 AM

Manic

08-02-2008, 06:18 AM

I wonder what happened between Rose and Mickey during the year in Pete's World. I mean, it's pretty obvious they didn't get back together, and Mickey stayed back in his home universe because there was nothing for him (not even Rose) back on Pete's world.

But it's like they weren't really friends anymore. I just watched Journey's End again, and I noticed that Rose and Mickey never spoke to one another. Not once. Each of them spoke to practically every other companion (Rose introduced herself to Martha, scolded her mum for showing up, said it was nice to see Sarah Jane again, talked to both Jack & Donna during the Doctor's non-regeneration -- Mickey said he had to look out for the other Smith, said he was going to miss Jackie most of all, hugged Jack), but they didn't say a single word to one another in the episode.

Maybe he broke things off permanently with Rose after he got tired of her using him for sex while she talked about the Doctor constantly.

SpideyLad

08-02-2008, 07:19 AM

Lord Valumart

08-02-2008, 01:06 PM

that weird looking saucer thing that looks like the hate sex love child of a flying saucer and a Yugo

pertwee owned that until about 1992...

Speedball

08-02-2008, 02:41 PM

The show didn't end until July. :huh:
Oh wait...you're right...
God damn it...
Going to Italy really messed with my brain...

Bastila

08-02-2008, 05:33 PM

yeh...i have that UK100 time crash set...i have to say it really is a thing of beauty...like an itallian supercar...or james mays hair....

EDIT
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/valumart/UK100TC.jpg

I see LV's hand, I hope that its not able to clone you, one LV is enough :p

Have to say that time crash is cool! Didn't know they made that! Good buy there!

Lord Valumart

08-02-2008, 05:36 PM

I see LV's hand, I hope that its not able to clone you, one LV is enough :p

Have to say that time crash is cool! Didn't know they made that! Good buy there!

looking back at the picture my thumb looks weird and you can see vains:wow::wow:

but yeh...i loves it and hugged it a lot. i have the proper SDCC one coming from Dew soon when she gets postage sorted...then i can have one on display:woot:

also:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=160267383909&Category=4299

04nbod

08-02-2008, 05:51 PM

awww look the action figures are almost holding hands

Lord Valumart

08-02-2008, 05:53 PM

awww look the action figures are almost holding hands

lies!!:cmad::csad:

04nbod

08-02-2008, 05:55 PM

are they detachable peeni?!
and if they did do it would it be the m-word?!

BlackLantern

08-02-2008, 05:56 PM

would anyone be opposed to a non-white Doctor??

Lord Valumart

08-02-2008, 06:06 PM

are they detachable peeni?!
and if they did do it would it be the m-word?!

say what:huh:

Bastila

08-02-2008, 06:08 PM

awww look the action figures are almost holding hands

thats so true lol

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=160267383909&Category=4299

LV wow that much :wow:

Your hand is weird look you might as well say you are weird lol :oldrazz:

04nbod

08-02-2008, 06:08 PM

say what:huh:

my lame attempt at dirty jokes in a censored environment:csad:

Lord Valumart

08-02-2008, 06:10 PM

would anyone be opposed to a non-white Doctor??
it would be a change but it would probably annoy long term fans for some reason or another...as far as i'm aware there have never been any non-white timelords:huh:
thats so true lol

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=160267383909&Category=4299

LV wow that much :wow:

Your hand is weird look you might as well say you are weird lol :oldrazz:

my hand isn;t that weird...and i know i'm weird, you know i'm weird...there's no need to go on about it...

Lord Valumart

08-02-2008, 06:11 PM

my lame attempt at dirty jokes in a censored environment:csad:

i see...

bad nbod...very bad...

Bastila

08-02-2008, 06:13 PM

my hand isn;t that weird...and i know i'm weird, you know i'm weird...there's no need to go on about it...

But weird is cool :cool:

Lord Valumart

08-02-2008, 06:16 PM

But weird is cool :cool:

i know...

but by that i should have been the coolest person at my school:huh:

Manic

08-02-2008, 06:35 PM

it would be a change but it would probably annoy long term fans for some reason or another...as far as i'm aware there have never been any non-white timelords:huh:
We saw a black Time Lord in the Doctor's flashback of Gallifrey in "The Sound of Drums."

Lord Valumart

08-02-2008, 06:39 PM

We saw a black Time Lord in the Doctor's flashback of Gallifrey in "The Sound of Drums."

did we? well thats the first one i'm aware of anyhow:huh:

The Squirrel

08-02-2008, 06:57 PM

would anyone be opposed to a non-white Doctor??

Chiwetel Ejiofor :up:
http://www.kungfucinema.com/images/05-08-01.jpg

Manic

08-02-2008, 06:58 PM

did we? well thats the first one i'm aware of anyhow:huh:
It's the only one I've ever heard of. I've found a vid on YouTube, by the way...

At about 1:29...
x5Km-ZenGis

Manic

08-02-2008, 07:00 PM

Chiwetel is awesome.

BlackLantern

08-02-2008, 07:05 PM

having just seen the finale....IMO Catherine Tate handled the techno-babble very well and she had a lot to handle in a short time....techno babble is a lot like profanity in a film, I think...some are good at it and it rolls off the tongue and some force it

Manic

08-02-2008, 07:08 PM

I love that she not only handled the technobabble, but did it while doing an imitation of the 10th Doctor's speech patterns.

Dr.Doom

08-02-2008, 08:57 PM

So, I want to start watching this show but need some pointers.

Do I need to see all the seasons even going back to the 60's or just the newer seasons?

I also want to check out the spinoffs, Torchwood and Sarah Jane, but when should I watch them in relation to doctor Who?

Thanks.

BlackLantern

08-02-2008, 09:04 PM

you don't need the original series....you can start from the first series with eccleston and into tennants first run....Torchwood starts soon after tennants second series and the departure of Rose

Manic

08-02-2008, 09:15 PM

To be specific, here's the Who/Torchwood/Sarah Jane order...

1. Doctor Who Series One*
2. Doctor Who Series Two
3. Torchwood Series One
4. Doctor Who Series Three
5. Sarah Jane Adventures Series One
6. Torchwood Series Two
7. Doctor Who Series Four (which just finished airing last month)

*By "Series One" I mean the 2005 episodes from the new Doctor Who show.
You don't need to watch the old Doctor Who from the 1960s-80s, but it certainly doesn't hurt.

04nbod

08-02-2008, 09:15 PM

Chiwetel Ejiofor :up:
http://www.kungfucinema.com/images/05-08-01.jpg

yes!!!

Captain_BluTac

08-02-2008, 09:19 PM

Manic

08-02-2008, 09:28 PM

If you're watching them for the first time, you actually DO need to see most of them in order.

Ianto's horrible episode in Torchwood Series 1 only makes sense if you've seen the Doctor Who Series 2 finale, not to mention you'll need to watch Doctor Who Series 1 just to know who Jack is.

The episodes with Martha in Torchwood Series 2 only make sense if you've seen the finale of Doctor Who Series 3. Otherwise, you'll have no idea who she is, or why she knows both Jack and the Doctor.

You can watch the Sarah Jane Adventures at just about any point, though.

Dr.Doom

08-02-2008, 09:58 PM

thank you

BlackLantern

08-03-2008, 01:47 PM

so I know that Martha is going to be on Torchwood now....so is Mickey going to be a regular part of the cast as well or just a recurring character...

Manic

08-03-2008, 01:50 PM

I hear rumors that Mickey is replacing Tosh.

Logan's Lady

08-03-2008, 01:55 PM

So are they finding someone new to play Martha?

I thought Freema was leaving BBC for some other show ....... :huh:

Captain_BluTac

08-03-2008, 02:00 PM

So are they finding someone new to play Martha?

I thought Freema was leaving BBC for some other show ....... :huh:

She is doing other shows, but there has been no confirmation if she will be leaving or not (and it is unlikely she will leave as there would of been contracts in place)

Manic

08-03-2008, 02:06 PM

Torchwood Series 3 is only going to be 5 episodes. I think she can handle more than one TV show.

Honestly, I don't know how you Brits put up with TV shows that last for less than 20 episodes.

TheCorpulent1

08-03-2008, 02:10 PM

13's not bad for me. I think a lot of American shows would actually benefit from having fewer episodes or a number of episodes determined by the story rather than stretching things out to fit a stock 20- or 22-episode season. The latter leads to a lot of terrible filler episodes a lot of the time. Smallville, for example--even when it was watchable, there were plenty of episodes that clearly existed solely to fill slots on the schedule.

Captain_BluTac

08-03-2008, 02:15 PM

Torchwood Series 3 is only going to be 5 episodes. I think she can handle more than one TV show.

Honestly, I don't know how you Brits put up with TV shows that last for less than 20 episodes.

Well having shorter series benefits us in the fact that we don't get any mid series cancellations like you guys do, plus British shows tend to get more series than American ones, so it all works out okay in the end.:o

Manic

08-03-2008, 02:17 PM

TheCorpulent1

08-03-2008, 03:28 PM

Well having shorter series benefits us in the fact that we don't get any mid series cancellations like you guys do, plus British shows tend to get more series than American ones, so it all works out okay in the end.:o
British what get more what now? Most of the British shows I've watched have ended after like 2 series. :(

union_jak

08-03-2008, 05:24 PM

British what get more what now? Most of the British shows I've watched have ended after like 2 series. :(
Last of the Summer Wine, Grange Hill and ChuckleVision feel like they've been going on for a lifetime...

They're not shows that are likely to have ever been shown outside the UK lol

wobbly

08-03-2008, 06:31 PM

Last of the Summer Wine, Grange Hill and ChuckleVision feel like they've been going on for a lifetime...

They're not shows that are likely to have ever been shown outside the UK lol

There are plenty more, especially the soaps (Coronation Street has been running since the 60's, Eastenders since the 80's etc).
Drama's/thrillers/sci-fi though don't generally tend to last too long. Doctor Who is definitely an exception, and even he got stuck in tv limbo for over a decade.

Manic

08-04-2008, 12:54 AM

Aren't Coronation Street and Eastenders soaps? Soaps always last forever. We've got soaps in the US that were running on the radio before televisions were available in every home.

TheCorpulent1

08-04-2008, 08:19 AM

Yeah, all soaps go on forever. My mom's been watching Days of our Lives since shortly after I was born.

Kahoot

08-04-2008, 09:39 AM

yeh...i have that UK100 time crash set...i have to say it really is a thing of beauty...like an itallian supercar...or james mays hair....

EDIT
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/valumart/UK100TC.jpg
I want two! 1 to play with and 1 to keep so that it'll make me loads of money down the line.

Kahoot

08-04-2008, 09:45 AM

So are they finding someone new to play Martha?

I thought Freema was leaving BBC for some other show ....... :huh:
Billie went and did shows for ITV but still came back. Now that RTD is gone so could all his companions.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/Companions.jpg

Captain_BluTac

08-04-2008, 10:42 AM

No one in B+W, no cyborgs, no Bonnie Langford, no one of Corrie, no character who is dead, no Timelady's and absolutely NO ONE from that god awful movie!

Lord Valumart

08-04-2008, 01:08 PM

I want two! 1 to play with and 1 to keep so that it'll make me loads of money down the line.
you can buy one for like £200 just now on ebay...but two might kill you, go for the limited 3,000 SDCC one...
No one in B+W, no cyborgs, no Bonnie Langford, no one of Corrie, no character who is dead, no Timelady's and absolutely NO ONE from that god awful movie!

what are you saying no to:huh:

Captain_BluTac

08-04-2008, 01:29 PM

you can buy one for like £200 just now on ebay...but two might kill you, go for the limited 3,000 SDCC one...

what are you saying no to:huh:

Kahoot's suggestion that any old Companion could return now.:o

Kahoot

08-04-2008, 01:30 PM

you can buy one for like £200 just now on ebay...but two might kill you, go for the limited 3,000 SDCC one...
I don't want to buy them I want two of them given to me!

Kahoot's suggestion that any old Companion could return now.:o
I didn't say that. I said RTD's companion might not come back since he's moved on and they aren't needed anymore.

Lord Valumart

08-04-2008, 01:41 PM

Kahoot's suggestion that any old Companion could return now.:o
so...whats wrong with companions from the B&W eras? Jamie is perhaps the 2nd favourate companion ever after SJS...
I don't want to buy them I want two of them given to me!

well that'll NEVER happen...:oldrazz:

Speedball

08-04-2008, 03:45 PM

I don't want to buy them I want two of them given to me!

I didn't say that. I said RTD's companion might not come back since he's moved on and they aren't needed anymore.
Well...Jack, Martha and Mickey can come back if there's another Story involving Torchwood (assuming Martha and Mickey join, of course).
I'd like to see the Doctor figure out a way to bring Astrid back. I'd love to see more Kylie.:woot:

I'd like to see Jamie come back too, I'm kind tired of all these girl companions pining after the Doctor...

TheCorpulent1

08-04-2008, 04:51 PM

so...whats wrong with companions from the B&W eras? Jamie is perhaps the 2nd favourate companion ever after SJS...
Put me down in the "Jamie rules" brigade, too. I loved him with the second Doctor. God, a reunion between the tenth and Jamie would be awesome. Less awkward than the reunion with Sarah Jane too, since the Doctor really didn't have any control over leaving Jamie and Zoe or any means of contacting them since they're both from time periods other than the '70s or '80s or whenever he was dropped off and began working with UNIT in his third incarnation.

Lord Valumart

08-05-2008, 01:27 PM

the problem with bringing jamie back is that the time lords wiped his memory when they sent him away...

mind you the guy that plays him always says during interviews that he and toughtan would never have left and still be there now if they were allowed to be...probably why they kept coming back lol

TheCorpulent1

08-05-2008, 01:59 PM

The mind-wipe isn't too hard to work around. Hell, the Doctor himself could probably reverse it now that he doesn't need to fear retribution from the other Time Lords.

Dope Nose

08-06-2008, 03:11 PM

In The Parting Of Ways, it was highly alluded to that he did it.

I know that the Doctor was responsible for destroying Gallifrey but I don't remember any mention of a delta wave being involved. do you know which scene it was alluded to in?

Lord Valumart

08-06-2008, 03:25 PM

I know that the Doctor was responsible for destroying Gallifrey but I don't remember any mention of a delta wave being involved. do you know which scene it was alluded to in?

it was jsut after he finished it the dalek emperor made a large hint that thats how the time lords went out...

BlackLantern

08-06-2008, 03:25 PM

I believe it's when the Dalek Emperor is talking to the Doctor about what happened at Gallifrey...that the Doctor knows what it means to be a killer...

on a side note, I always enjoy the scoring of the finale episodes....must be nice to have the London Philharmonic scoring your finales for you.....bastards

Dope Nose

08-06-2008, 03:29 PM

thanks guys!

danb26

08-06-2008, 06:40 PM

on a side note, I always enjoy the scoring of the finale episodes....must be nice to have the London Philharmonic scoring your finales for you.....bastards

Hah, thank you!

Actually it's the BBC National Orchestra of Wales...but it's still fricking fantastic!:grin:

BlackLantern

08-06-2008, 06:52 PM

Hah, thank you!

Actually it's the BBC National Orchestra of Wales...but it's still fricking fantastic!:grin:

That's still tons better than what we have over here....best we get is a studio orchestra that is just cashing a paycheck....

danb26

08-06-2008, 09:03 PM

That's still tons better than what we have over here....best we get is a studio orchestra that is just cashing a paycheck....

Ah crap, tell you what my missus is starting out a career as a film composer (decent style), so for future reference let's change the world! :)

Also, they are on iTunes....Doomsday haunts me everytime.

:yay:

BlackLantern

08-06-2008, 09:06 PM

my favorite piece of music is the one playing when Professor Yana is remembering he is The Master and the Doctor and Jack are trying to launch the rocket....

Speedball

08-06-2008, 10:26 PM

my favorite piece of music is the one playing when Professor Yana is remembering he is The Master and the Doctor and Jack are trying to launch the rocket....
It's called YANA on the soundtrack.
The third season soundtrack came out a few weeks ago.

Magneto29

08-06-2008, 11:43 PM

The third season soundtrack came out a few weeks ago ?? Huh ? Wasn't season 2 and 3 out combined quite awhile ago ?

Magneto29

08-06-2008, 11:48 PM

Scratch that; season 1 and 2 were together. But otherwise, season 3 came out way back in january.

Speedball

08-07-2008, 03:14 AM

Scratch that; season 1 and 2 were together. But otherwise, season 3 came out way back in january.
Maybe in the UK, but I didn't see it here till a few weeks ago.

danb26

08-07-2008, 06:58 AM

Scratch that; season 1 and 2 were together. But otherwise, season 3 came out way back in january.

Yeah, in the UK...but the rest of the woooorld probably had it later, which is appears they did :p

JustABill

08-07-2008, 08:32 AM

Magneto29

08-07-2008, 12:23 PM

Lol, I'm not in the UK either. I bought it on Itunes though in April, so I guess it was avaliable a lot earlier on there.

08-07-2008, 12:54 PM

my favorite piece of music is the one playing when Professor Yana is remembering he is The Master and the Doctor and Jack are trying to launch the rocket....
My personal favourite is the Cybermen theme:

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Speedball

08-07-2008, 01:49 PM

I want the series 4 soundtrack now. I think the version of Donna's Theme in series 4 was a bit different from the one put on the series 3 soundtrack. I also want the version of the Ood Song from Journey's End.
I want the song when all the teams were linking up the network to contact the Doctor in Stolen Earth.

TheCorpulent1

08-07-2008, 04:50 PM

Tony Ingram

08-08-2008, 02:15 AM

I watched "The Time Warrior" a couple nights ago. Pretty great intro for Sarah Jane and the Sontarans, and I liked how it put a sci-fi spin on the historical episodes of the Hartnell era. The Sontaran looked like a living potato, though.Actually, I still think the original Sontaran mask from Time Warrior is the best. It looks more realistic than any version since, I think. Something to do with the look of the skin. Subsequent versions have that latex look to them.

Charlie No-One

08-08-2008, 03:28 PM

I just finished the second series. I loved Rose. The chemistry between her and the Doctor is amazing. She will be missed. (I know I am really behind)

The score to Doomsday is amazing.

TheCorpulent1

08-08-2008, 03:31 PM

Wow, I hate Rose. Both Martha and Donna turned out to be better companions as far as I'm concerned.

Lord Valumart

08-08-2008, 04:05 PM

I watched "The Time Warrior" a couple nights ago. Pretty great intro for Sarah Jane and the Sontarans, and I liked how it put a sci-fi spin on the historical episodes of the Hartnell era. The Sontaran looked like a living potato, though.

i wish to clap in your general direction good sir:up:

but the mask in that was the best of all the sontaran masks...even the new series ones.

Captain_BluTac

08-08-2008, 04:06 PM

Corp that's because you're just as messed up as LV.:o

Charlie No-One

08-08-2008, 04:07 PM

I am not sure why, but the relationship between Rose and the Doctor really drew me into the series. I just watched the Runaway Bride and Donna is really annoying. :(

Lord Valumart

08-08-2008, 04:10 PM

Corp that's because you're just as messed up as LV.:o
i'm not messed up...but i do know that if it ain't broke don't fix it...there was no need for the doctor to have ANY relationship other than freindship with his companions...
I am not sure why, but the relationship between Rose and the Doctor really drew me into the series. I just watched the Runaway Bride and Donna is really annoying. :(

donna gets better...also, her breasts:up:

BlackLantern

08-08-2008, 04:35 PM

But it would stand to reason that The Doctor would get lonely, and not just for friendship,...

TheCorpulent1

08-08-2008, 04:45 PM

i wish to clap in your general direction good sir:up:

but the mask in that was the best of all the sontaran masks...even the new series ones.
That was a pretty sweet mask. The armor in general was pretty cool, in fact. I kind of wish they'd kept the shiny look for the Sontarans in the new series.
Corp that's because you're just as messed up as LV.:o
Whatever, yo. I don't really hate Rose, but she did get really annoying at times. I liked it more when it was the Doctor with Rose and Jack or Rose and Mickey. She needs another companion to balance her out.
I am not sure why, but the relationship between Rose and the Doctor really drew me into the series. I just watched the Runaway Bride and Donna is really annoying. :(
Donna gets much less annoying in series 4. Believe me, I hated Donna after "The Runaway Bride," too. Now she's my favorite companion of the new series.

Lord Valumart

08-08-2008, 04:48 PM

That was a pretty sweet mask. The armor in general was pretty cool, in fact. I kind of wish they'd kept the shiny look for the Sontarans in the new series.

yeh, the blue rubber is kinda stupid, the gun metal grey made much more sence for a race thats bread for war

TheCorpulent1

08-08-2008, 04:49 PM

Indeed. Just make it molded like the new armor instead of poofy like "The Time Warrior" armor and it'd be great. But I'm okay chalking it up to technological advances. Hell, kevlar doesn't look too impressive, but it'll get the job done better than metal.

BlackLantern

08-08-2008, 04:50 PM

I liked Donna during "Runaway Bride" because she was so different from Rose...She actually questioned The Doctor, unlike Rose who as all like "whatever you say...googly eyes...googly eyes"

TheCorpulent1

08-08-2008, 05:12 PM

She still did that in series four. She just wasn't as much of a heinous b**** about it.

The Squirrel

08-08-2008, 06:05 PM

Donna wasn't afraid to call The Doctor on his b.s. :up:

psychocheeseman

08-08-2008, 11:35 PM

i'm not messed up...but i do know that if it ain't broke don't fix it...there was no need for the doctor to have ANY relationship other than freindship with his companions...

Damn straight, i thought it cheapened the series a little, trying to throw in the romance element. It's a sci fi show for kids, that just happens to appeal to adults. Just cause Tennants a bit of a man whore, doesn't mean the doctor has to be one as well...

Manic

08-08-2008, 11:36 PM

Donna: "What, and you're in charge?"
Doctor: "TARDIS, Time Lord, yeah!"
Donna: "Donna, human, no!"

BlackLantern

08-08-2008, 11:44 PM

Considering the 2012 Olympics are in London and there has already been an episode about it......wouldn't it be cool to see the TARDIS pop up somewhere in London during the Olympic hype/?

JustABill

08-09-2008, 12:22 AM

Donna: "What, and you're in charge?"
Doctor: "TARDIS, Time Lord, yeah!"
Donna: "Donna, human, no!"
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God, Donna. :heart:

Lord Valumart

08-09-2008, 01:05 PM

Considering the 2012 Olympics are in London and there has already been an episode about it......wouldn't it be cool to see the TARDIS pop up somewhere in London during the Olympic hype/?

that a thing...

the dr is bound to show up where he's already been at some point so how would an episode where he can't do anything to help...just watch:huh:

JustABill

08-09-2008, 01:37 PM

That whole Olympics thing in ''Fear Her" was just god awfully cheesy. Especially him picking up the torch and carrying it.

Kahoot

08-09-2008, 01:42 PM

Fear Her was just a filler episode and it sucked.

Manic

08-09-2008, 02:29 PM

Fear Her is the worst "kid with powers" episode they've done so far. The others, of course, are The Empty Child (the little boy), Human Nature (Tim, who I swear looked more like a 10 year old than a teenager), and Silence in the Library (Cal).

Kahoot

08-09-2008, 02:31 PM

Actually all the kid with powers episodes have been good except Fear Her.

Manic

08-09-2008, 02:35 PM

Heh, that's true. Those were actually some of the top episodes from their respective series.

JustABill

08-09-2008, 02:41 PM

Is it bad I don't remember Human Nature? o_O

Kahoot

08-09-2008, 02:44 PM

Is it bad I don't remember Human Nature? o_O
Scarecrows?

BlackLantern

08-09-2008, 02:45 PM

The Family of Blood? ring a bell

Speedball

08-09-2008, 02:50 PM

It's the episode when the Doctor becomes human and falls for the girl from Spaced and Shaun of the Dead. I hope we actually get to see more of her, because I liked her.

BlackLantern

08-09-2008, 02:54 PM

I felt horrible for her....she fell for "John Smith" and then told The Doctor to kick rocks....she seemed offended at the fact the Doctor asked her to come along...

Kahoot

08-09-2008, 02:58 PM

It's the episode when the Doctor becomes human and falls for the girl from Spaced and Shaun of the Dead. I hope we actually get to see more of her, because I liked her.
I loved Jessica Hynes but I hope we never see Joan Redfern again. Bring Hynes back as an alien or just another human (we've seen it before with Eve Myles) but I like leaving past storys behind.

I kinda see The Long Game/Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways as a three parter with a few episodes in the middle.

Speedball

08-09-2008, 03:05 PM

I loved Jessica Hynes but I hope we never see Joan Redfern again. Bring Hynes back as an alien or just another human (we've seen it before with Eve Myles) but I like leaving past storys behind.

I kinda see The Long Game/Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways as a three parter with a few episodes in the middle.
We've also seen it done with Martha.
She looks very different in makeup. I honestly didn't realize it was her until a few months ago.

BlackLantern

08-09-2008, 03:08 PM

So what are the odds of Jack and Martha shagging on Torchwood??

Kahoot

08-09-2008, 03:09 PM

:o Martha was the easy answer and I went for Eve Myles... :o

Kahoot

08-09-2008, 03:10 PM

So what are the odds of Jack and Martha shagging on Torchwood??
High

JustABill

08-09-2008, 04:12 PM

High
I kinda hope they don't turn Martha into a repeat of Gwen. Engaged and ****ing some one else. :o

Kahoot

08-09-2008, 04:15 PM

I just hope that in the first 10 seconds of new Torchwood we see some alien shoot and kill Martha. Martha was crap in the Torchwood episodes she did and she wasn't that great in Dr Who.

Lord Valumart

08-09-2008, 04:21 PM

I kinda hope they don't turn Martha into a repeat of Gwen. Engaged and ****ing some one else. :o

she wasn;t engaged when she was shaggin owen...

and how comes there was never any mention of the little trip the master made them take:huh: you know what...torchwood has a really screwed up timeline and it's only been on for two series:csad::csad:

The Squirrel

08-09-2008, 04:48 PM

she wasn;t engaged when she was shaggin owen...

and how comes there was never any mention of the little trip the master made them take:huh: you know what...torchwood has a really screwed up timeline and it's only been on for two series:csad::csad:

Probably because they weren't on the ship when The Doctor reversed time, so they wouldn't remember anything that had happened.

Lord Valumart

08-09-2008, 04:53 PM

Probably because they weren't on the ship when The Doctor reversed time, so they wouldn't remember anything that had happened.

no...he sent them on the trip previous to the the ship...so they'd remember everything up to the president being shot, but nothing after...

Kahoot

08-09-2008, 04:53 PM

Probably because they weren't on the ship when The Doctor reversed time, so they wouldn't remember anything that had happened.
They were sent away before the doctor got the the ship and time only went back to where the US pesedent was killed.

Manic

08-09-2008, 04:55 PM

Lord Valumart

08-09-2008, 04:57 PM

I've been complaining about the timeline between the shows ever since I saw the Torchwood series 2 premier. The Torchwood crew was complaining at Jack like he'd been gone for weeks, but he'd only been gone for 2 days at most.

you don;t know how long he hung around with the dr and martha...he would probably hang around to help fix the tardis, he's that kinda guy:huh:

Kahoot

08-09-2008, 04:59 PM

Who said the doctor didn't take him back a few months late? His TARDIS flying isn't that great sometimes.

Manic

08-09-2008, 05:03 PM

you don;t know how long he hung around with the dr and martha...he would probably hang around to help fix the tardis, he's that kinda guy:huh:
The TARDIS can apparently be repaired instantaneously from the inside. After seeing the Titanic crash into it, and the DonnaDoctor fixing it during "Journey's End," I doubt he'd need Jack's help for very long.
Who said the doctor didn't take him back a few months late? His TARDIS flying isn't that great sometimes.
Okay, that might be it. After all, there was the whole "12 hours/12 months" thing he did to Rose in series 1.

IronLion

08-10-2008, 04:07 PM

i always wondered what happend to them.....

seeing as it was a setup by the master, when time reversed, the setup would have reversed too...wouldnt it, and they would have just come home. they could have at least mentioned it or something.

BlackLantern

08-10-2008, 04:10 PM

well no...The Master did that prior to the President being killed and the paradox machine being activated....when time reversed it only went back to the point where the machine was turned on....the master told the Doctor about sending Torchwood off the day previous......I would assume they were sent off on some wild goose chase so it wouldn't be worth mentioning unless Jack bought it up...

04nbod

08-10-2008, 04:16 PM

So what are the odds of Jack and Martha shagging on Torchwood??

Jacks not into martha. When she kissed him he had his eyes open and was shocked

Gilpesh

08-12-2008, 11:08 PM

That whole Olympics thing in ''Fear Her" was just god awfully cheesy. Especially him picking up the torch and carrying it.

That was the only good thing about the episode...

If only they had got some other kid to play Chloe Webber.

The Englishman

08-13-2008, 05:45 PM

The Series 4 DVD cover as been released, its on Amazon.

Manic

08-13-2008, 05:53 PM

Looks like the US and UK have the same cover this series (we got a Series 3 cover with Martha instead of the Master), and the releases are a day apart.

US Doctor Who Series 4 (http://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Who-Complete-Fourth-Season/dp/B001DJ7PQ4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1218664134&sr=1-1)

UK Doctor Who Series 4 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Complete-BBC-4/dp/B0011W2IN8/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1218664305&sr=1-6)

TheCorpulent1

08-14-2008, 08:52 AM

That cover's kind of boring. They could've at least thrown the TARDIS in behind them.

Kahoot

08-14-2008, 01:29 PM

The Englishman

08-14-2008, 03:21 PM

That cover's kind of boring. They could've at least thrown the TARDIS in behind them.
I don't know, i kinda like the picture and the colour scheme. Mabey the TARDIS could have been thrown in there somewhere....

BlackLantern

08-14-2008, 03:34 PM

That cover's kind of boring. They could've at least thrown the TARDIS in behind them.

What do you want....some triple varient foil cover with an optional flip out....?

Lord Valumart

08-14-2008, 03:37 PM

iwish it to be noted i have no strong feelings one way or the othr about this cover...

however the DWM series companion cover looks like crap...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/karen_ginger/n500291798_808644_8724.jpg

how badly is rose photoshoped in there? how badly!!?!

TheCorpulent1

08-14-2008, 03:40 PM

That is pretty awkward. And why is Donna dressed like an eskimo?

Lord Valumart

08-14-2008, 03:42 PM

casue for some reason thats what they chose to put her in...

the real question is why is rose on the cover anyhow?

BlackLantern

08-14-2008, 03:46 PM

casue for some reason thats what they chose to put her in...

the real question is why is rose on the cover anyhow?

I guess a lot of people identify her with the show and figured "hey why not".....

Lord Valumart

08-14-2008, 03:47 PM

I guess a lot of people identify her with the show and figured "hey why not".....

but she never really did anything apart from almost get the dr killed....:huh:

it was donna's series...not rose's...she has no business being there in that poorly photoshoped crap...

BlackLantern

08-14-2008, 03:54 PM

but she never really did anything apart from almost get the dr killed....:huh:

it was donna's series...not rose's...she has no business being there in that poorly photoshoped crap...

LV...I understand your hate for Rose Tyler runs deep....very deep....I get that....but you seem to be in the minority on that viewpoint...regardless of how needy and annoying she can be

TheCorpulent1

08-14-2008, 04:45 PM

Series 4 was basically the culmination of the Doctor's relationship with Rose. Yeah, Donna was the companion for it, but the emotional impact at the end of the series centered largely on Rose.

The Englishman

08-14-2008, 04:52 PM

SpideyLad

08-14-2008, 05:11 PM

I agree with LV when it comes to Rose.......

As do I...

TheCorpulent1

08-14-2008, 05:15 PM

She doesn't annoy me too much. Her relationship with the Doctor annoys me, but thankfully that's over. She's got her faux-Doctor to have hot, steamy, inappropriate-for-children's-TV sex with and her alternaverse world is hopefully locked away for good now. Good riddance.

JustABill

08-14-2008, 05:27 PM

I just heard the part they cut from Donna's end scene...and it pisses me off. :cmad:

The Englishman

08-14-2008, 05:28 PM

TheCorpulent1

08-14-2008, 05:28 PM

I just heard the part they cut from Donna's end scene...and it pisses me off. :cmad:
What part?

JustABill

08-14-2008, 05:31 PM

Catherine was on a radio talk show and she was asked why there was a slight hint of rememberance in her face when she said goodbye to The Doctor. She says it's because there was scene right after that they filmed where she hears the uproar of the motor of the Tardis, turns around and looks out the window as if she's possibly remembering. She says they cut it out because they were unsure if people would get she was remembering and does it mean now that she might have remembered that she's going to die.

TheCorpulent1

08-14-2008, 05:34 PM

Oh. Eh, that doesn't bother me. It would've introduced a bit of unnecessary confusion, since the Doctor said she couldn't remember anything about her travels with him.

JustABill

08-14-2008, 05:36 PM

Oh. Eh, that doesn't bother me. It would've introduced a bit of unnecessary confusion, since the Doctor said she couldn't remember anything about her travels with him.
Eh. I want my hope for a Donna return though. If Rose can come back damn it. Donna better.

TheCorpulent1

08-14-2008, 05:38 PM

There's always hope for her to return. I kind of like the tragedy of her character, though. The one companion of the new series so far who genuinely just loved the wonder of seeing the universe and time spread out before her (as opposed to a stupid crush on the Doctor), and she's the one who has it all taken away. I hope Donna returns at some point, but for now that tragic twist is a pretty good place to leave things.

Bastila

08-14-2008, 06:24 PM

Eh. I want my hope for a Donna return though. If Rose can come back damn it. Donna better.

Same here it would be cool if she came back, she was great.

I'm still happy she didn't die that would have been too sad.

Wonder in that clip they cut if he brain exploded lol.

Manic

08-15-2008, 12:38 AM

I'm of the theory that RTD changed the ending after he'd written the entire episode. It's almost like Donna was supposed to die on the TARDIS instead of the Doctor taking her memory away. Donna kept saying throughout the series that she'd travel with the Doctor for the rest of her life, Caan said one of the companions would die, and Donna came very close to death until the Doctor wiped away her memory.

That said, the scene they cut out of Donna hearing the TARDIS and seeing it disappear... that would've led to her death. The Doctor told Wilf and Sylvia that they can't let her remember anything about him, implying that her memories were only locked away, not destroyed. He said that if she started to remember, THEN she'd die. It would've sucked major big ones if the Doctor's departure jogged Donna's memory, leading to her death as soon as he leaves.

TheCorpulent1

08-15-2008, 08:58 AM

It would also be pretty bleak for Doctor Who, which is almost always upbeat and happy in the end. Even what we were left with regarding Donna is unusually depressing, to be honest.

jabbatheridge

08-15-2008, 09:38 AM

LV...I understand your hate for Rose Tyler runs deep....very deep....I get that....but you seem to be in the minority on that viewpoint...regardless of how needy and annoying she can be

I watched a recording from the Doctor Who panel at SDCC a few days ago and Steven Moffatt said he loved the ending to series 2 where the Doctor dumped his needy girlfriend in another dimension, it was a hell of a way to get rid of an ex.

Made me laugh:woot:

Lord Valumart

08-15-2008, 01:14 PM

Series 4 was basically the culmination of the Doctor's relationship with Rose. Yeah, Donna was the companion for it, but the emotional impact at the end of the series centered largely on Rose.

any emotionak impact was swiftly lost and then kicked out the window with the series taking a 10 minute detour up it's own arse then the whole donna remembering=death thing...so...i disagreee, the emotional impact was donna's story, it was donna's series, everything else was thrown in there cause rtd thought "screw it...everyone likes jack..." and wrote from there...

The Lizard

08-15-2008, 02:30 PM

As I've said before, I didn't mind Rose that much during season 1 and 2. At the time, a companion who was hugely crushing on the Doctor was something new and somewhat interesting.

That being said, Rose's place in the Doctor Who mythos was much more tolerable when she was left in the alternate dimension with no more Doctor and only Mickey as a consolation prize. She was made a bit more of a poignant character because she didn't get what she wanted - and rightly so because this is the Doctor we're talking about here.

But noooo.... RTD just had to bring Rose back and turn her into the ultimate fangirl Mary Sue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue) wish-fulfillment character with a ridiculously contrived ending to give her what she wanted. Bleh.

Manic

08-16-2008, 07:58 PM

BBC America just reran The Runaway Bride tonight (cut down to an hour, because they don't want to screw up Primeval's new time-slot), and GOL-LY was Donna an idiot back then. Now I remember why I was so hesitant to see her as a fulltime companion. I remembered the constant yelling and slapping, but I forgot just how slow she was in that episode.

Like when the Doctor took her back in time to watch the Racnoss ship form the center of the Earth, she came back to the present, got kidnapped and strapped above the giant hole in the ground, and was still stupid enough to ask the Empress "why? What's down there?"

Captain_BluTac

08-16-2008, 08:14 PM

I think TRB get's a bum wrap, that episode was a lot better than people give it credit for and as for the dumb Donna comment, she was terrified, of course she was a bit slow.:o

Manic

08-16-2008, 08:44 PM

I actually thought The Runaway Bride was good, aside from the corny villain.

JustABill

08-17-2008, 01:08 AM

I actually liked the villain. Lance didn't dampen her somewhat. He was a terrible actor.

ttotheusher

08-18-2008, 06:17 PM

Did anyone else hear this? Theres a new "type" of Cyberman in the christmas special:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2473376/Doctor-Who-to-be-challenged-by-new-Cyberman-enemy.html

SpideyLad

08-19-2008, 03:18 AM

JustABill

08-19-2008, 09:40 AM

I'm fully expecting it to fail like the Human Dalek hybrid in Martha's Dalek episodes. :o

Kahoot

08-19-2008, 01:46 PM

Did anyone else hear this? Theres a new "type" of Cyberman in the christmas special:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2473376/Doctor-Who-to-be-challenged-by-new-Cyberman-enemy.html
That was news to me, could be good but if RTD is writing then it won't be. Also is it just me or do they say "They Cybershade" when it should be "The Cybershade"? The Telegraph making typos and spelling mistakes, tut tut :nono:

TheCorpulent1

08-19-2008, 01:53 PM

Oh, hey, a new Cyberman. Fun. I just don't care about the Cybermen or the Daleks anymore at this point. :(

GhostPoet

08-19-2008, 02:42 PM

So...for someone who watches Doctor Who on american tv...when can I expect more NEW Doctor Who?

SpideyLad

08-19-2008, 03:05 PM

So...for someone who watches Doctor Who on american tv...when can I expect more NEW Doctor Who?

Christmas '08. Then 4 'specials' sometime next year.

Charlie No-One

08-19-2008, 03:39 PM

I am a bit behind on Doctor Who news. David Tennant is still going to be the Doctor right?

Bastila

08-19-2008, 03:55 PM

^

Yep he is.

SpideyLad

08-19-2008, 03:56 PM

I am a bit behind on Doctor Who news. David Tennant is still going to be the Doctor right?

Yes, yes he is. :up:

SpideyLad

08-19-2008, 03:56 PM

^

Yep he is.

You just beat me to it!:oldrazz:

Bastila

08-19-2008, 04:02 PM

^

Fast like lighting:p

vindrow

08-19-2008, 09:11 PM

I love this show, but just once I wouild like to see them go one full season without any Daleks or Cybermen.

Logan's Lady

08-19-2008, 09:55 PM

LV...I understand your hate for Rose Tyler runs deep....very deep....I get that....but you seem to be in the minority on that viewpoint...regardless of how needy and annoying she can be
I agree with LV when it comes to Rose.......
As do I...
I agree..... with LV, The Englishman and SpideyLad.....

Eh. I want my hope for a Donna return though. If Rose can come back damn it. Donna better.
Yes I still hope for a Donna return also........ I'm going to miss her so much :(

I am a bit behind on Doctor Who news. David Tennant is still going to be the Doctor right?
Yes, yes he is. :up:
He is for the specials next year..... but has he agreed to another whole season in 2010 yet?

(Sorry all... gone a whole week and had lots to catch up on in the Who thread! :p)

Charlie No-One

08-19-2008, 10:11 PM

I don't get all the love for Donna. I am on "The Doctor's Daughter" and still can't stand her. She is really annoying and obnoxious. Does she get better from here on out?

JustABill

08-19-2008, 10:44 PM

I don't get all the love for Donna. I am on "The Doctor's Daughter" and still can't stand her. She is really annoying and obnoxious. Does she get better from here on out?
Different strokes for different folks. I for one think whoever becomes series 5 companion and the companions in the specials have hella big shoes to fill. :o

Captain_BluTac

08-19-2008, 10:57 PM

Different strokes for different folks. I for one think whoever becomes series 5 companion and the companions in the specials have hella big shoes to fill. :o
Which is weird cus Catherine Tate has tiny feet.:o

Manic

08-20-2008, 03:36 AM

So...for someone who watches Doctor Who on american tv...when can I expect more NEW Doctor Who?
Christmas '08. Then 4 'specials' sometime next year.
Well, that's what's planned for the UK. In the US, we typically don't see the Christmas specials until right before they air the premier for the following series. The Sci-Fi Channel effectively makes the Christmas specials our "series premiers."

You guys/lot are getting the 4 episodes on holidays, right? God only knows how the Sci-Fi Channel will handle only 5 wide-spread episodes of Doctor Who next year. They don't air new episodes of ANYTHING during holidays.

JustABill

08-20-2008, 08:30 AM

I wondered this too. So it definitely intrigues me how Sci-Fi will schedule the specials.

JustABill

08-20-2008, 09:11 AM

Which is weird cus Catherine Tate has tiny feet.:o
She wears clown shoes, didn't you hear? :o

BlackLantern

08-20-2008, 11:51 AM

Sci Fi will probably throw the specials on random friday nights....probably in time for sweeps in May if there is one to air....

Fry's Girl!!

08-20-2008, 12:02 PM

Which is weird cus Catherine Tate has tiny feet.:o

Not as small as Freema, I read in an interview somewhere she has size 2 feet.

Lord Valumart

08-20-2008, 12:02 PM

Which is weird cus Catherine Tate has tiny feet.:o

if that were true she'd fall over due to the weight in her bra...:o

TheCorpulent1

08-21-2008, 09:04 AM

Well, that's what's planned for the UK. In the US, we typically don't see the Christmas specials until right before they air the premier for the following series. The Sci-Fi Channel effectively makes the Christmas specials our "series premiers."

You guys/lot are getting the 4 episodes on holidays, right? God only knows how the Sci-Fi Channel will handle only 5 wide-spread episodes of Doctor Who next year. They don't air new episodes of ANYTHING during holidays.
F*** Sci Fi. I don't know what the management of that network is thinking. They consistently screw up pretty much anything good they've got.