The "New" Doctor Who

[LexCorp]

He did what he had to do and it truly had an effect on her, which I thought was superb!

Yeah a true moment there

[lars573]

I can't wait to see the Dalek ep tonight

I feel so slow because Scifi is only that far into the series

hopefully they make a deal so that they can air new episodes shortly after they are first played in the UK
CBC's got that. Sci-fi will have to talk to them about that.

[TwilightPro101]

Sci-Fi will more than likely have a waiting period between seasons. Either way, it'll be like the old days.

[WallCrawl]

This was posted in the Mondo Funky thread:

Christmas at Dr. Who's
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VQEmGC6VK8k&search=dead%20ringers

[grey_jeanie]

43 minutes...

hi everyone

[grey_jeanie]

Man, I thought there would be more people on just before it airs.

[Bat Brain]

Hello, 20 minutes :D

[grey_jeanie]

17...

[grey_jeanie]

Hope it's good

[The Red Skull]

Good stuff. Bit overdone at the end, true, but it meant Tennant got to show off a full range of emotions. And it had Billie Piper fondling herself. Bonus!

[Mr. Thing]

Well, weren't that bloody good?

[Mr. Thing]

Good stuff. Bit overdone at the end, true, but it meant Tennant got to show off a full range of emotions. And it had Billie Piper fondling herself. Bonus!

Damn right!

[Happenstance]

I really enjoyed that episode, I wasnt entirely sure on Tennant from the Christmas Special but I really like him now.

Still the "cure" didnt make a whole lot of sense, he poured in about 6 bags but it supposedly cured thousands of diseases :S

[Bat Brain]

Excellent episode. David Tennant is going to be an amazing Doctor. The Billie Piper self-fondling was an added bonus of course ;)

Yeah, the cure thing was strange but as they say 'it's TV, it doesn't have to make sense' :)

[Happenstance]

Yeah it didnt ruin my enjoyment of the episode, just made me wonder about it. Looking forward to next week now!

[Bat Brain]

Did anyone download the commentary for that episode from the website?

Plus, watch the Tardisode for episode 2. http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/

[regwec]

Did anyone else find Rose about twice as attractive when she was "being" Cassandra?

Anyway, I thought it was great, but the plague zombies would have scared me to death when I was little.

[grey_jeanie]

Brilliant! Rose was much sexier that way.

*I'm in love with David Tennant*

[SpideyLad]

Excellent episode :D

[grey_jeanie]

Where is everyone? I want to talk about stuff.

[Lord Valumart]

i miss Jon Pertwee:(

[grey_jeanie]

Did you tape your av from the tv??

[Lord Valumart]

Did you tape your av from the tv??
i stole it from someone who makes them on OG.....much like many of the avvies i will have over the next few weeks....

[grey_jeanie]

Wow, another one!

[Lord Valumart]

i can keep going all night;)

[grey_jeanie]

Hmmm, so I've heard.

[Lord Valumart]

who's been telling you what??

[grey_jeanie]

Goodness another one.

Oh no one (shuffles feet and looks no nonchanantly up at the sky)

[Lord Valumart]

Goodness another one.
like i said....all night....
Oh no one (shuffles feet and looks no nonchanantly up at the sky)
ok then.....:(

[grey_jeanie]

Alright then... it's so patronising when people do that :) I love it!

[Lord Valumart]

back to doctor who....

so....cat nuns....fun?

[grey_jeanie]

Very fun. I wanted to see them getting into a scrap and using the claws they so proudly waved around. They were certainly creepy though.

I was hoping the Face of Boe was going to have a more important part.

[Lord Valumart]

Mr Boe will be back in series three or sometime to tell the doctor something....

anyone care to guess what??

[grey_jeanie]

The audience will probably never know, just to always keep us guessing. It's a lot more mystical that way. Like the information is only for the likes of the doctor and us mere humans will never know. It spoils his whole superior time-lord image I think.

[Lord Valumart]

you never know....Mr Boe might come out with the address of Susan....or Romana....you can never tell what RTD will do...i thought Boomtown was goin to be bad and...oh...hang on....:(

[grey_jeanie]

Who are Susan and Romana?

Are you 100% 'new' doctor then Lord V?

[Mr. Thing]

Best line: "...Yep...still got it..."

[Lady Stormcrow]

I loved the new episode! My favorite line was purely based on how it was delivered:
'I've got two hearts!' *the doctor boogies*
I liked how theyve started that whole story thread with the face of boe; and those cat women were genuinly disconcerting. So cold and menacing. I think the episode had just the right mix of humor and..eveything else.

[grey_jeanie]

Best line: "...Yep...still got it..."

I like Cassandra's line about being inside a bouncy castle. Although that one was great.

[grey_jeanie]

I loved the new episode! My favorite line was purely based on how it was delivered:
'I've got two hearts!' *the doctor boogies*
I liked how theyve started that whole story thread with the face of boe; and those cat women were genuinly disconcerting. So cold and menacing. I think the episode had just the right mix of humor and..eveything else.

Three things:

1. I was hoping the Face of Boe would have a bigger part in the plot.

2. I can't believe you're still dancing with Snape at the Yule Ball (I remeber when you changed that)

3. What is Gallifrey?

[grey_jeanie]

My questions will have to go unanswered... Maybe tell me next time :)

I'm off to bed with the satisfying dreams of Doctor Who and David Tennant.

[lars573]

Well I can only answer one question Gallifrey was/is the home world of the Time lords. IMO Time lord was a title held by certain Gallifrians.

[Electro UK]

I got it recorded. Watching it later today. :up:

[black_dust]

Wow i thought it was great, hes a very very good new Dr, bring on the next episode i say.

Hey Lv, i did laugh when he danced, and thought of you haha.

[Lord Valumart]

Hey Lv, i did laugh when he danced, and thought of you haha.
this has to be one of the freakest things i've read all day.....

[regwec]

I thought the best line was;

"I am The Doctor. If you're looking for a higher authority, you won't find one. The buck stops with me".

Or words to that effect...

[Captain Villa]

you never know....Mr Boe might come out with the address of Susan....or Romana....you can never tell what RTD will do...i thought Boomtown was goin to be bad and...oh...hang on....:(


Susan is back in Ep 3.

[black_dust]

this has to be one of the freakest things i've read all day.....
:) i can come up with freakier things :o

[Lord Valumart]

Susan is back in Ep 3.
thats Sarah Jane Smith....:rolleyes:

Susan was a relation to the Doctor, she got left on earth at the end of the Dalek invasion....shes a time lady...she never met K9....get some basic history man....

[Lord Valumart]

since noone told you and i'm bored i thooght i'd give you an answerWho are Susan and Romana?

Are you 100% 'new' doctor then Lord V?
Susan is the Doctor's granddaughter
Romana is a timelady

and to the other part....no...not really....

[Whirlysplat]

As a long time Doctor Who fan, trust me let's not get into how long :) I hated Episode 1 series 2 and thought it was the worst Doctor Who I have ever seen. I started watching them aged 5 in the very early seventies, damn I got into how long ago.

- Whirly

[Captain Villa]

thats Sarah Jane Smith....:rolleyes:

Susan was a relation to the Doctor, she got left on earth at the end of the Dalek invasion....shes a time lady...she never met K9....get some basic history man....

Indeed, I got confused !

Thanks.

[Lord Valumart]

what is this confusion you speak of??

plus it's a safe bet the Susans dead...

[Whirlysplat]

what is this confusion you speak of??

plus it's a safe bet the Susans dead...

Why? Susan left the Doctor in Dalek invasion of Earth to be with David Campbell. She still exists somewhere in time.

- Whirly

[Lord Valumart]

Why? Susan left the Doctor in Dalek invasion of Earth to be with David Campbell. She still exists somewhere in time.

- Whirly
it would be logical for the Timelords to call back all of their own people to fight in the time war....all the time lords are dead...susan was a timelord...susans dead

[Whirlysplat]

it would be logical for the Timelords to call back all of their own people to fight in the time war....all the time lords are dead...susan was a timelord...susans dead

Susan it was hinted was half human.

She exists somewhere in time. Unless proven otherwise, she left to be with David Campbell anything else is assumption. The Doctor thought all the Daleks were dead. We have lots of continuity flaws, in the time war, the fact other races can remember it for a start, when Gallifrey was supposedly erased from history and so were the Daleks.

Anyway the second series had better improve. It was a poor first episode yesterday and people will start to see through the BBC's hyperbole.

- Whirly

[Lord Valumart]

Susan it was hinted was half human.
doctor is half human, you point is?
She exists somewhere in time. Unless proven otherwise, she left to be with David Campbell anything else is assumption. The Doctor thought all the Daleks were dead. We have lots of continuity flaws, in the time war, the fact other races can remember it for a start, when Gallifrey was supposedly erased from history and so were the Daleks.
the doctor can't(shouldn't)go back to his past...the time war sugests that it took place in different time periods....and if the timelordswere in ecceft deleted from time then she can't exist in an form other than he doctors own experience
Anyway the second series had better improve. It was a poor first episode yesterday and people will start to see throught the BBC's hyperbole.

- Whirly
it wasn't that bad...it just felt rushed...it was a good enough ep...but next week...werewolf:D:D

[Whirlysplat]

doctor is half human, you point is?

the doctor can't(shouldn't)go back to his past...the time war sugests that it took place in different time periods....and if the timelordswere in ecceft deleted from time then she can't exist in an form other than he doctors own experience

it wasn't that bad...it just felt rushed...it was a good enough ep...but next week...werewolf:D:D

The American TV movie stated he was half human, it's actually in contradiction to earlier stories - no point, hohum, if we take that as canon though it makes.her quarter timelord so she's more human, why should she be called anywhere?

Actually the fact people remeber the timelords makes this highly flawed.

I thought it was awful and why should it be rushed they had ages to prepare. I hope it improves.

- Whirly

[regwec]

I thought it was really rather good, as did pretty much every critic, seemingly. I suppose you can never please everyone.

[Whirlysplat]

I thought it was really rather good, as did pretty much every critic, seemingly. I suppose you can never please everyone.

The papers in the UK want Doctor Who to be a success, as do I but not at the expense of quality. If it doesn't improve trust me it won't do well. Terrestial TV is all soaps and low brow rubbish. I don't want Dr. Who to also be part of this.

- Whirly

[regwec]

I don't really see how this newest incarnation of Doctor Who is any more low-brow than any other. It's true that some storylines in the past have brought a more weighty approach to the screen, but there has always been a fair bit of silliness as well. I think it is important for the show's popularity that it can do both.

[Whirlysplat]

I don't really see how this newest incarnation of Doctor Who is any more low-brow than any other. It's true that some storylines in the past have brought a more weighty approach to the screen, but there has always been a fair bit of silliness as well. I think it is important for the show's popularity that it can do both.

hmm, well the Dr. would have an age gap relationship with anyone and so would Billie Piper :eek: I think that the whole approach from Farting Aliens tp a pseudo dominatrix in Cassandra is simply coarse. The Dr should be "The Oncoming Storm", "The Lonely God" and not what I saw on Saturday.

- Whirly

[Hollow Wood Director]

I thought it was really rather good, as did pretty much every critic, seemingly. I suppose you can never please everyone.

I'll have to wait till May when the DVD is released to see this episode, but I expect it to be good and poor in equal parts. It's very rare for something to be perfect and you're quite right there will always be people who don't like something when everyone else does.

I think Doctor Who is in for some more harsh criticism because the more successful something is the more " cool " it is to put it down. Look at how nasty people got about the Star Wars prequels and George Lucas. I don't know how many times I saw the same type of comments repeated over and over again. Not a single original thought put foward just a bundle of media cliches littered with negatives.

We are getting to the point were it will be "cool" to slag off Doctor Who so expect much more of this type attitude.

[Hollow Wood Director]

hmm, well the Dr. would have an age gap relationship with anyone and so would Billie Piper :eek: I think that the whole approach from Farting Aliens tp a pseudo dominatrix in Cassandra is simply coarse. The Dr should be "The Oncoming Storm", "The Lonely God" and not what I saw on Saturday.

- Whirly

Doctor Who should be all of the above "Farting Aliens" "Dominatrix Cassandra" the "Oncoming Storm" and the " Lonely God "

Maybe Russel T Davies and writing crew will investigate the more serious aspects of the character further down the line.

[Whirlysplat]

Doctor Who should be all of the above "Farting Aliens" "Dominatrix Cassandra" the "Oncoming Storm" and the " Lonely God "

Maybe Russel T Davies and writing crew will investigate the more serious aspects of the character further down the line.

I guess I grew up with Pertwee and Baker. I thought Christopher Eccleston made the best of an erratic script. I thought they got the balance perfect for Tennant at Christmas and had high hopes. In fact, I still have high hopes. I think Davies needs to sort it out though as viewing figures will start to drop bigtime regardless of BBC hype, BBC hype it doesn't carry the weight it once did thanks to Sat. choice. We know how good TV Sci Fi should be done from the States, Joss Wheedon gets the humour action bit perfect. It'ss not about being "cool" to put it down, that's an assumption - its about love of a character for nearly 40 years. We almost got Dr. Who "the next generation" with the first series, it would be a shame if the second series meant the show got cancelled after series 3 which is already agreed and will be made.

- Whirly

[Vapor]

I saw the 1st episode in series 2 and I have to say I liked it. Now I didn't really like or get into series 1 because, and I'll admit I'm not really a fan of the original series, I only saw bits of it (mainly Tom Baker stuff) but the new series 1 felt like a bit of a poor imitation to me and I didn't really like Chris as the Doctor.

I think that the whole approach from Farting Aliens tp a pseudo dominatrix in Cassandra is simply coarse. The Dr should be "The Oncoming Storm", "The Lonely God" and not what I saw on Saturday.

- Whirly

I think I feel similar to Whirly.. It (series 1) feels like it isn't taking itself seriously. It does actually have some serious sci-fi stuff in but it's done in a lighthearted and a ' accomodating to the lowest common denominator' sort of way, which isn't the impression I got when watching original Dr. Who re-runs with my dad.

But I did enjoy the new episode. It's a bit early to tell if I will enjoy the series as a whole or if I'll be able to get into it but I thought it was much better than series 1 and the second episode looks to be alright. I also like David Tennant as The Doctor.

[Captain Villa]

I guess I grew up with Pertwee and Baker. I thought Christopher Eccleston made the best of an erratic script. I thought they got the balance perfect for Tennant at Christmas and had high hopes. In fact, I still have high hopes. I think Davies needs to sort it out though as viewing figures will start to drop bigtime regardless of BBC hype, BBC hype it doesn't carry the weight it once did thanks to Sat. choice. We know how good TV Sci Fi should be done from the States, Joss Wheedon gets the humour action bit perfect. It'ss not about being "cool" to put it down, that's an assumption - its about love of a character for nearly 40 years. We almost got Dr. Who "the next generation" with the first series, it would be a shame if the second series meant the show got cancelled after series 3 which is already agreed and will be made.

- Whirly


:up: Spot on.

HWD - I think you need to see this week's episode before commenting on it. There was too much "comedy" for a new Dr and maybe should have been explored later in the series, not in Ep1 of his reign. The way Tennant was in Xmas Invasion should be the way to go, not like yesterdays sillyness.

[Mr. Thing]

As a long time Doctor Who fan, trust me let's not get into how long :) I hated Episode 1 series 2 and thought it was the worst Doctor Who I have ever seen. I started watching them aged 5 in the very early seventies, damn I got into how long ago.

- Whirly

Worse than..."The Web Planet"?

If you say yes, then you must die.

[regwec]

That's what I'm talking about- there have been all sorts of dreadful episodes of Doctor Who. That's almost part of the fun. Fine, this episode had a few corny jokes and enjoyed a bit of silliness with Rose getting somewhat raunchy; but all that was balanced by a plotline that focused on a kind of medical concentration camp that bred plague zombies. Pretty hard hitting. I don't think it was the best episode (even of the new run- that honour goes to "Dalek"), but I feel that some of you are being unfairly hard on it.

[Whirlysplat]

Worse than..."The Web Planet"?

If you say yes, then you must die.

No


That's what I'm talking about- there have been all sorts of dreadful episodes of Doctor Who. That's almost part of the fun. Fine, this episode had a few corny jokes and enjoyed a bit of silliness with Rose getting somewhat raunchy; but all that was balanced by a plotline that focused on a kind of medical concentration camp that bred plague zombies. Pretty hard hitting. I don't think it was the best episode (even of the new run- that honour goes to "Dalek"), but I feel that some of you are being unfairly hard on it.

Yes, their have ben lots of poor and cheesy Doctor Who episodes in the past. That was then. times move on. American shows overall have a generally higher standard than the Doctor and this episode was particularly bad, it was cheesy, superficial, poorly scripted and the sets at time were dire. The CGI was quite good. It's only my opinion though. I think Davies really needs to sort it out. My licence pays towards Doctor Who and I would rather it went on that than £630, 000 a year fat breakfast show DJ's wages, if they cut fat Chris Moyles wages by half the BBC could have had a decent set.

- Whirly

[DeFett]

They have the Series 2 Episode 1 and Christmas Invasion Audio commentaries up on podcast for those with iTunes.

[SpideyLad]

Werewolves and Monks tonight......Hurray!

[Lord Valumart]

way to excited dude....

it's only a werewolf that looks 1000 times better that that peice of crap one from Harry Potter....

[_BB_]

The cgi on the werewolf is amazing considering this is a tv series. Cant wait for tonights episode :D :up:

[Lord Valumart]

:eek:

SpideyLad stole(one of)my avvy(s)!!!

[SpideyLad]

:eek:

SpideyLad stole(one of)my avvy(s)!!!

One of your stolen avvys......Which you let me have!!!!!

And besides, I did just make you one:mad:

[Lord Valumart]

One of your stolen avvys...i remember this part.......Which you let me have!!!!!i don;t remember this part...

And besides, I did just make you one:mad:
i remeber this part....


fine....take it...i have better....

[Flame on!]

I think a lot of the criticism levelled at episode 2.1 is that it was coming off the back of Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways and the Christmas Invasion, both of which were bigged up to be 'events' and thus needed to impress to the max.

New Earth was a basic reintroduction to the characters and thus could not get bogged down in astounding plot revelations. It was essentially like an old Star Trek episode in which the chacaters were 'reset' at the end, with no lasting consequence, save for Boe which echoes last years early Bad Wolf references despite RTD not knowing what Bad Wolf was/is until late in the day. Boe was there to add intrigue and to lure viewers into coming back each week in case Boe turns up and delivers his secret.

I don't expect tonights epside to be much different in that regard. A nice, one-off adventure in the spirit of The Unquiet Dead, as opposed to the dramatic tension and character developments that we'll see in the later episodes. The highest authority angle presented in New Earth will only serve to make the Doctor's inevitable moral screw up all the more powerful.

I can see the shows flaws, but also it's strengths. It's fun, it's got humour, drama, a great cast, and great imagination. Undue comments like 'it's the worst Doctor Who eva!' will only serve to remind the BBC that what the public wants is more gritty cop dramas and reality TV shows.

[Lord Valumart]

IUndue comments like 'it's the worst Doctor Who eva!' will only serve to remind the BBC that what the public wants is more gritty cop dramas and reality TV shows.
if Life on Mars is a "gritty cop drama" then i'm all for it:up:

however...reality shows can burn in hell:mad:

[The Amazing Lee]

Doctor Who>Most Drama shows on British TV.

[Flame on!]

if Life on Mars is a "gritty cop drama" then i'm all for it:up:
That's a concept show, a pastiche on The Sweeny etc.

[The Amazing Lee]

That's a concept show, a pastiche on The Sweeny etc.

and back to the future :o

[grey_jeanie]

if Life on Mars is a "gritty cop drama" then i'm all for it:up:

however...reality shows can burn in hell:mad:

You won't be watcing Strictly Dance Fever beforehand then?? Ive got you down as a dance fan! ;)

[Lord Valumart]

That's a concept show, a pastiche on The Sweeny etc.
i have been put in my place:(

[Lord Valumart]

You won't be watcing Strictly Dance Fever beforehand then?? Ive got you down as a dance fan! ;)
hey, just cause i can do the Saturday Night Fever dance dos...oh....you mean the dancing Dave avvy's.....

[Whirlysplat]

Doctor Who>Most Drama shows on British TV.

Which sadly my friend means little.

- Whirly

[black_dust]

Well i will watch tonight episode then go watch silent hill :)

[The Amazing Lee]

Which sadly my friend means little.

- Whirly

I didn't say it meant alot I hate television or the majority of it to say the least.

[Whirlysplat]

I didn't say it meant alot I hate television or the majority of it to say the least.

I'm glad we agree then.

- Whirly

[regwec]

I now watch TV for three things only-

- Doctor Who

- My Name is Earl

- Foxy Channel Five news reader Barbara Serra.

[_BB_]

Damn, the football had better not run over :mad:

[regwec]

Well, I liked it. The only truly stupid bits were the monks' kung fu robes at the start, and the republican drivel at the end.

Questions- what happened to the monks, and what it the relevance of Torchwood?

[The Red Skull]

Well, it was Torchwood who destroyed the Sycorax ship at the end of the Christmas Invasion. I'm thinking there'll be a retcon to establish UNIT as being its military branch. The Doctor was probably not informed of its existence as Torchwood perceive him to be a threat.

As for the episode itself... well, I was disappointed. Impressive special effects, but bugger all plot to go with it. However, the werewolf's host was wonderfully creepy. Maybe this species will become a new, recurring villain?

I'm also beginning to have doubts about David Tennant's Doctor. He's charismatic, but altogether too 'human'; too 'cheeky chappy' and hugs people way too often.

[_BB_]

Torchwood is going to be a spinoff series starring John Barrowman who played captain jack in the first series. Its going to be a lot darker that dr who and "more sexier" apparently

I agree with you about the monks, as soon as they came on i was thinking, WTF, what do monks have to do with a werewolf?

[regwec]

Well, it was Torchwood who destroyed the Sycorax ship at the end of the Christmas Invasion.
Ah yes, I had forgotten that.

Edit: Also, there was an implied connection between the tardis, Big Bad Wolf, and the werewolf. Does anyone have any ideas what that might be?

[Lord Valumart]

i really liked that ep.....the bits where the werewolf was eating the guys were brilliantly shot:up:

also....how cool was that werewolf??
it rocked so much....plus....the detail...oh god it was brilliant...

[Quentin Beck]

Yeah I loved today's episode! :)

:eek: http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2006/index.shtml They have the dates of when each episode is going to be shown! WOO HOO! :)

[Vapor]

I liked it. I'm really liking Tenant as the Doctor and I'm even starting to like Billies as Rose (I didn't like her of what I saw of series 1). The effects were good and I thought the Werewolf story (an alien entity/plague) and the way it was handled was pretty cool. I think I am gonna enjoy this series much more than I did series 1.

[Red X]

Graet episode so, by the way how do you spell the other weather, a in "wether it be this?

[Sentry2005]

Graet episode so, by the way how do you spell the other weather, a in "wether it be this?

second way you spelt it... wether (at least i'm pretty sure... and i'm doing english at a degree level, so fear me!)

[Mr. Thing]

I thought tonights was ok. Could've been a lot better, but good none the less.

[Red X]

second way you spelt it... wether (at least i'm pretty sure... and i'm doing english at a degree level, so fear me!)

Thats what I thought damn Word, I'il put my review up soon.

[Vapor]

Graet episode so, by the way how do you spell the other weather, a in "wether it be this?

whether

[Whirlysplat]

Much better than last week. I still feel it's inferior to many American Sci Fi shows. Lets hope it continues to improve.

- Whirly

[Quentin Beck]

Next week it has Sarah Jane and K-9. Also when they were showing us what's next week did anyone notice a quick shot of a winged dinosaur :eek:

[The Amazing Lee]

Reminds me of the same kind of style as Father's Day.

[Lord Valumart]

:eek:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DOCTOR-WHO-action-figure-FACE-OF-BO-very-rare_W0QQitemZ6622385230QQcategoryZ112481QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[regwec]

Hahah! That's fantastic.

I think my problem with the last episode is that it seemed Davies wasn't brave enough to maintain a tone. The first scene with the monks and the farmers could have been genuinely eerie, had that ridiculous kung fu ensemble been cut. Similarly, Queen Victoria's formation of Torchwood would have been a great, onymous set up for things to come, had it not been diluted by a silly and unnecessary giggle-fest between The Doctor and Rose.

[Captain Villa]

Ah yes, I had forgotten that.

Edit: Also, there was an implied connection between the tardis, Big Bad Wolf, and the werewolf. Does anyone have any ideas what that might be?


do you think this "Bad Wolf" business from series 1 was something to do with this.

also, was "Bad Wolf" ever explained ?

[Lord Valumart]

also, was "Bad Wolf" ever explained ?
Rose was The Bad Wolf, it's all in the last 10 mins of The Parting Of The Ways

[regwec]

I have a feeling that there is more to it than that. There is no doubt that Rose became a more or less omnipotent being for a few moments, but why "Bad Wolf"?

[3dman27]

she was trying to warn the doctor the'd be encountering werewolves?

[WallCrawl]

she was trying to warn the doctor the'd be encountering werewolves?

I doubt it's as simplistic as that.

[grey_jeanie]

I don't think it's for that reason.

I think they used the name Bad Wolf because it had so much history linked with that phrase (ie it's mentions in poems, Beowulf, Bad Wolf was a god called Fenrir in Norse mythology was said to bring the end of the world etc) to fuel the speculation of fans trying to figure out what it meant before it because clear at the end.

[Lord Valumart]

having finaly updated my avvy for this ep......i'm slightly more happy:)

i wish there was more blood:(

[Whirlysplat]

Hahah! That's fantastic.

I think my problem with the last episode is that it seemed Davies wasn't brave enough to maintain a tone. The first scene with the monks and the farmers could have been genuinely eerie, had that ridiculous kung fu ensemble been cut. Similarly, Queen Victoria's formation of Torchwood would have been a great, onymous set up for things to come, had it not been diluted by a silly and unnecessary giggle-fest between The Doctor and Rose.

I agree on all points.

- Whirly

[Kevin Roegele]

The new Doctor Who is so lame it makes me cringe.

- It's not Doctor Who, it's generic adventure hero on inoffensive, family-friendly mainstream adventures.
- BBC trying to do werewolves, clearly thinking, "If Van Helsing can do it, so can we." Please stop it.
- The Doctor used to be midde-class and aristocratic, now he's working class and hangs with a chav.
- There's absolutely no mystery whatsoever.
- Monks doing martial arts. Bullet time. Please, please stop it now.
- The tone. It's basically extremely light entertainment, verging on broad comedy.

[3dman27]

whats a chav?

[WallCrawl]

whats a chav?

It's British slang:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav

http://www.sha-crawford.co.uk/may2005/chav.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8c/Chav.jpg

[regwec]

- It's not Doctor Who, it's generic adventure hero on inoffensive, family-friendly mainstream adventures.
- The Doctor used to be midde-class and aristocratic, now he's working class and hangs with a chav.
I have to take issue with those two criticisms. Doctor Who hasn't been on the screen (full time) since the 80s. Contemporary British culture and society have changed a lot since then, and there is really no harm in The Doctor and his companion reflecting a more egalitarian ethos. I'm not sure that I don't prefer The Doctor as the patronising-wizard-crusader of the past, but I think the public at large would probably disagree.

[black_dust]

Well last night was ok :) Some cool effects in it.

Next weeks reminds me of the demon head master, dont know if any of you can recall that :D

[The Amazing Lee]

I do indeed. I think it's just a British Exclusive ;)

[black_dust]

I do indeed. I think it's just a British Exclusive ;)
:up: one of many

[Captain Villa]

I have to take issue with those two criticisms. Doctor Who hasn't been on the screen (full time) since the 80s. Contemporary British culture and society have changed a lot since then, and there is really no harm in The Doctor and his companion reflecting a more egalitarian ethos. I'm not sure that I don't prefer The Doctor as the patronising-wizard-crusader of the past, but I think the public at large would probably disagree.

That image can stay bried with the portrayol from Sylvester McCoy who killed the series first time round.

[Mr. Socko]

Is this a good show?

[Captain Villa]

Is this a good show?

It kills 45 mins on a Sat evening but is not at the heights it was in the 70's, character wise but enjoyable still.

[Lady Stormcrow]

I have a feeling that there is more to it than that. There is no doubt that Rose became a more or less omnipotent being for a few moments, but why "Bad Wolf"?

I think it just started as the name of the company running sattelite 5 in the parting of the ways, and rose took that name and spread it across time and space from there.

And I think I agree with regwec. Also, the dialogue was not as sharp in 'tooth and claw' as it was in the first episode, it seemed a bit shakey and didnt flow too well. Also, the kung fu scene we saw before the opening credits just reminded me of those little bits they show between programs on the bbc, of people wearing red.
I was very impressed with the wolf effects though, they were very well done IMO

[Whirlysplat]

I think it just started as the name of the company running sattelite 5 in the parting of the ways, and rose took that name and spread it across time and space from there.

And I think I agree with regwec. Also, the dialogue was not as sharp in 'tooth and claw' as it was in the first episode, it seemed a bit shakey and didnt flow too well. Also, the kung fu scene we saw before the opening credits just reminded me of those little bits they show between programs on the bbc, of people wearing red.
I was very impressed with the wolf effects though, they were very well done IMO

I thought the first episode was much worse.

- Whirly

[The Englishman]

Is this a good show?

Yes it is.

[Mister Sinister]

May as well offer my insight...

I was in America so I'm waiting to see New Earth, Tooth and Claw was fantastic and the Krillitane from School Reunion seem genuinely scary.

[Whirlysplat]

Yes it is.

hmmmmmm at times in my opininon my friend, I don't find it consistant.

- Whirly

[Mister Sinister]

hmmmmmm at times in my opininon my friend, I don't find it consistant.

- Whirly
Doctor Who doesn't really need to be consistent, it just needs to grab you by the balls, shake you about a bit and leave you feeling deeply satisfied after 45 minutes.

[Mister Sinister]

Found this on OG:

http://www.gallifreyone.com/images/newsgraphics/doc10sarah.jpg

[Whirlysplat]

Doctor Who doesn't really need to be consistent, it just needs to grab you by the balls, shake you about a bit and leave you feeling deeply satisfied after 45 minutes.

So you think it does this at present? Well whatever gets you off ;)

- Whirly

[Mister Sinister]

Meet..


Live from the Impossible Planet...


And the Satan Pit!...


THE OOD!


http://art.gmaskew.com/acemel/2/50.jpg
http://art.gmaskew.com/acemel/2/51.jpg

[regwec]

Nasty.

[WallCrawl]

Nasty.

But deliciously so.

[Captain Villa]

Found this on OG:

http://www.gallifreyone.com/images/newsgraphics/doc10sarah.jpg


She is still hot, 20 years later.

[Whirlysplat]

I have to say Lalla Ward gave me the horn most of all the assistants cap.

- Whirly

[Mister Sinister]

I have to say Lalla Ward gave me the horn most of all the assistants cap.

- Whirly
Word...

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/cruise/images/lw.gif
Not sure she does it anymore though.

[Whirlysplat]

Word...

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/cruise/images/lw.gif
Not sure she does it anymore though.

No I don't think she does. :(

- Whirly

[Captain Villa]

No I don't think she does. :(

- Whirly


Which one was she ? :confused:

The wild lookin cave bird in the bikini went on into Eastenders.

[Whirlysplat]

Which one was she ? :confused:

The wild lookin cave bird in the bikini went on into Eastenders.

No Lalla was the cute "schoolgirl" version of Romana. The Cavegirl was Leila.

- Whirly

[Lady Stormcrow]

Which one was she ? :confused:

The wild lookin cave bird in the bikini went on into Eastenders.

really? who did she play?

(The sarah jane smith actress looks great for her age. I think she's 58-ish)

[Captain Villa]

really? who did she play?

(The sarah jane smith actress looks great for her age. I think she's 58-ish)


Beppe's (De Marco) Mum.

[3dman27]

i had a thought this morning will the doctor take a "vacation "from scifi during may for sweeps programming or will there be new episodes? or maybe classic episode or mthe doctor who movies?

[regwec]

I have no idea why the BBC isn't repeating some of the better classic episodes at the moment.

[Lord Valumart]

they should show them on BBC4, like they are with The Avengers......

ok, i just want another reason to say "i was watching BBC4 lastnight".....but still, it is the best place for classic Who at the moment...

[Whirlysplat]

they should show them on BBC4, like they are with The Avengers......

ok, i just want another reason to say "i was watching BBC4 lastnight".....but still, it is the best place for classic Who at the moment...

UK Gold often shows them.

- Whirly

[Lord Valumart]

UK Gold often shows them.

- Whirly
yeh...but at like 6am on weekends.....plus they have breaks....not the best for putting onto dvd.....if BBC4 showed them they could show then in single eps, like they were origonaly broadcast......

[Whirlysplat]

yeh...but at like 6am on weekends.....plus they have breaks....not the best for putting onto dvd.....if BBC4 showed them they could show then in single eps, like they were origonaly broadcast......

I occasionally Sky + and watch them in the evening but I don't think they are worth keeping. Like most nostalgia shows e.g. my faves the Professionals and the Sweeney they take me back but they are not something I would watch over and over like a movie I liked.

- Whirly

[Captain Villa]

i had a thought this morning will the doctor take a "vacation "from scifi during may for sweeps programming or will there be new episodes? or maybe classic episode or mthe doctor who movies?


What ?

[Captain Villa]

i had a thought this morning will the doctor take a "vacation "from scifi during may for sweeps programming or will there be new episodes? or maybe classic episode or mthe doctor who movies?

What do you mean ?

[Lord Valumart]

so....an hour to go until K9 returns to our screens:D:D

[grey_jeanie]

Looking forward to it.

[The Amazing Lee]

I'mloving the avvy Valumart :up:

[Lord Valumart]

I'mloving the avvy Valumart :up:
thanks, and as i've said to grey_jeanie, i have a hell of alot of them......i already have one ready for after this ep is finished:D

[Lord Valumart]

Looking forward to it.
alien shape shifting bats:D:D:D:D

[The Amazing Lee]

tut tut. What are you like eh?

I've been watching the free dvds from the sun of Doctor Who this week. I like it but I've found it hard to get into the old format of Doctor Who because it's alot different from the new series.

[Lord Valumart]

the old series was fantastic...it was just at a slower pace....which helped it in alot of ways....but some bits did drag on...

EDIT: holy crap...i'm the top poster in this thread with 358 posts:eek:

[Happenstance]

Well I really enjoyed that episode, I was never a massive fan of the old series but still nice to see characters returning

[The Red Skull]

Excellent episode. More than made up for last week (in my opinion).

[The Amazing Lee]

Twas rather good. :)

[Lord Valumart]

i'd give it K9/10:up:

see what i did there??

ok...i'll go:(

BTW, should i put up my avvy for this ep?

[Whirlysplat]

Well - I enjoyed it also. Nostalgia overload and I enjoyed every minute. It was like being 7 years old again in 1974.

K9 is still annoying, even now 30+ years on.

- Whirly

[The Amazing Lee]

Keep your current avatar :up:

[Lord Valumart]

will do:up:

[SpideyLad]

Great episode........And K9 was great :D

[3dman27]

What do you mean ?
in rose the doctor said he was "on vacation" when i used the phrase i was asking if doctor who would be PRE EMPTED for sweeps programming

[black_dust]

Hehe cool episode :) K9 was pretty cool, "we are in a car" :D hehe

So is Sarah-Jane coming back into it later on then?

[Captain Villa]

No.

[The Amazing Lee]

I think that was just a one off.

[black_dust]

okies :) if your wrong tho you will pay:p

[The Englishman]

It was a good eppisode but i think Tony Head was wasted in this Role. Well it would be a good role if he was a recurring Villain but to Kill him off??? is a waste. He should have been the Master!!!!! Good Eppisode Though. :up:

[regwec]

That episode was the best (of the new series) so far, for the reasons that is managed to maintain its dramatic tension, and had some serious, character-developing dialogue.

[Whirlysplat]

It was a good eppisode but i think Tony Head was wasted in this Role. Well it would be a good role if he was a recurring Villain but to Kill him off??? is a waste. He should have been the Master!!!!! Good Eppisode Though. :up:

I agree and it went through my mind make him the Master.:up:

- Whirly

[IronLion]

I agree and it went through my mind make him the Master.:up:

- Whirly

we didnt actually see him die, if i remember. when the oil 'splatted' everywhere, the others were burning, he wasnt. he could have easily survived the explosion and could still come back as the master.

did the master die in the movie??? can he come back??

sarah jane and k9 could make a reappearance in the torchwood spin off. they investigate alien phenomenon, and so does she.

[regwec]

The Master has a nack of survival that exceeds even The Doctors.

[Captain Villa]

okies :) if your wrong tho you will pay:p

No, im right.

Lis Sladen said it herself.

[Mister Sinister]

THE CYBERLEADER

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3323/emperorcyberman0es.png

[regwec]

Looks like any other Cyberman, but sitting down...

[WallCrawl]

Looks like any other Cyberman, but sitting down...

Yeah, but in a really big chair! Look at that thing! It oozes and exudes leaderessness!

[black_dust]

No, im right.

Lis Sladen said it herself.
Okies :) a guy at work met her and he said that as well :)

[Kenny Eugene McCall]

Is it me, or does Billie Piper (Rose) look like somebody I could get laid with? She is smoking hot!

[3dman27]

she is attractive indeed

[Whirlysplat]

Is it me, or does Billie Piper (Rose) look like somebody I could get laid with? She is smoking hot!

Yes she does. She has that "works at Woolworths" sexiness about her. Good casting for a "Shop girl".

- Whirly

[3dman27]

Yes she does. She has that "works at Woolworths" sexiness about her. Good casting for a "Shop girl".

- Whirly
that phrase brought back memories of shopping at the now out of buisness woolworths thank you

[Lady Stormcrow]

I have no idea why the BBC isn't repeating some of the better classic episodes at the moment.

It'd be good if they showed them on normal television (I nearly attempted to spell terrestrial then) Because I dont have digital or freeview, and Im sure many other people don't either still, or they're just on too early on UkGold.

[Whirlysplat]

that phrase brought back memories of shopping at the now out of buisness woolworths thank you

:) happy to oblige

- Whirly

[Lord Valumart]

bumpity bump-a-lump

so....clockwork robots, eh?

[black_dust]

i forgot this was on tonight :o

[The Amazing Lee]

I can't believe I haven't missed any episodes to the second series yet.

I am conforming towards television.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Lord Valumart]

Lee, your avvy has to be one of the most annoying i've ever seen.....well done:up:

[The Amazing Lee]

I get alot of comments about it ;)

[Lord Valumart]

i wish it was dead:mad:

[Happenstance]

Well that was another great episode, I wasnt too sure about it from the preview but I was pleasantly suprised.

[Lord Valumart]

the idea:up:
the horse:up:
the endding, bloody fantastic

the story...:(

[Happenstance]

I didnt think the story was that bad, one thing I wasnt too happy with was the absolute cheesyness of him coming through the mirror on the horse but the ep was good enough so I got over it pretty quickly :p

[Lord Valumart]

i loved the horse, it was just fantastic, i just felt the overall story wasn't really that good....i mean...Micky's first time out and he's barely in it....it was, like i said a good idea....but badly executed IMO

the ending was the best bit....it was slightly sad...the first time Doctor Who has ever made me sad:(

[Happenstance]

I just wish they could have got that actress into a recurring role, she was fit! :p

Im not really sure about Mickey so I dont mind him not being in it too much. I think I prefered it when the Doctor didnt like him.

[Bat Brain]

I hope they get rid of Mickey soon, he really annoys me.

Brilliant episode, i loved the part where he came through the mirror on the horse although it was so very, very cheesy.

Fave quote: ''I'm the Lord of France''
''Yeah, well I'm the Lord of Time''

[The Amazing Lee]

first doctor who creatures that actually gave me the creeps/kinda scared me.

[Captain Villa]

I just wish they could have got that actress into a recurring role, she was fit! :p

Considering she , Sophia Miles is a leading Hollywood actress, with her as the lead in TRISTON & ISOLDE at the moment, I doubt they could afford her.

She is David Tennents girlfriend in real life and it was obviously a favour.

[The Amazing Lee]

She wasn't going out with him until they had done that episode.

[black_dust]

I thought that episode pretty much sucked balls :)

Some funny one linners but basicaly it was ****. Just on about the Dr getting it on with some bird for half of it!

These goddam cybermen better kick ass or else!

[Baggers]

I can't believe I never found this thread before :)

Hi guysss...wooo!! Doctor Who is back on our screens and I'm so happy get my doctor fix every Saturday night like I should....This week ep was okay, didn't find it that intersting, to me the storyline was alil dull but the ending was amazing and soo sad, first time I felt sorry for the Doctor....can't wait for next week my fave villians are back....Cybermen!!

:venom: Baggers :venom:

[The Red Skull]

Considering she , Sophia Miles is a leading Hollywood actress, with her as the lead in TRISTON & ISOLDE at the moment, I doubt they could afford her.

She is David Tennents girlfriend in real life and it was obviously a favour.

Considering she is a leading Hollywood actress, I expected a far better performance from her. If anything, I think her acting let the whole episode down.

I agree with Lord Valumart: great idea, ending, etc. poor execution.

That, and I think if the script had been re-worked so that the droids didn't speak they would have been a lot creepier. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they've instilled a fear of analogue timepieces in a generation of British children, but I think the generic robot voices let the side down in regards to overall menace. The omnipresent, Edgar Allen Poe-esque ticking was effective enough on its own.

[Bat Brain]

Can someone explain the significance of showing the name of the ship, the SS Madame de Pompadour, at the very end of the episode. Did something go right over my head or what?

[Lord Valumart]

Can someone explain the significance of showing the name of the ship, the SS Madame de Pompadour, at the very end of the episode. Did something go right over my head or what?
it had the same name as the woman they were stalking....they obviously had something wrong with them casue they used the crew as spare parts to repair the ship, they obviously belevied that only her brain would do, casue she was who the ship was named after, who they basicly worked to maintain....since they were extremly screwed up, they wanted her brain!!!*spook hand movement*

[Bat Brain]

Ah, okay. I was thinking along those lines. Thanks LV.

[Lord Valumart]

that could be the frist time in about a year anyones thanked me on here:(

anyhow....the cybermen:D:D

[Whirlysplat]

She was attractive.
I liked Mickey more than Rose this episode.
The story was poorish.
The effects adequate.
The sets at times poor especially on the spaceship.
The lines so/so.
Compared to Battlestar Galactica, it really isn't in its class as a Sci Fi show.
Lets hope the creatures that inspired the Borg do better and take me back to my childhood with Space station Nerva, Sarah Jane and the Revenge of the Cybermen. The first time I saw them.

- Whirly

[regwec]

Neither the story or the visuals were poor by any stretch of the imagination. It was great to have a past age other than that of Victorian Britain realised succesfully, and the clockwork-masque-cyborgs were both imaginative and striking. The script was both touching and poignant.

The only criticism I can level is that Mickey is simply unnecessary.

[Whirlysplat]

Neither the story or the visuals were poor by any stretch of the imagination. It was great to have a past age other than that of Victorian Britain realised succesfully, and the clockwork-masque-cyborgs were both imaginative and striking. The script was both touching and poignant.

The only criticism I can level is that Mickey is simply unnecessary.

In your opinion, my own opinion diverges on several points as do a number of other posters. Who cares though, it's all good.

- Whirly

[The Amazing Lee]

I really liked the episode. Sure it had it's flaws but overall it was good. I prefered it from School Reunion.

[regwec]

In your opinion, my own opinion diverges on several points as do a number of other posters. Who cares though, it's all good.

- Whirly
Of course it's my opinion. Who else's would it be?

[Whirlysplat]

Of course it's my opinion. Who else's would it be?

Wrong perhaps? ;)

I joke, I joke - it's all good

- Whirly

[regwec]

But that doesn't even work grammatically. How could it be wrong's opinion?

[Mister Sinister]

Looking forward to ROTC. LOVED the series so far.

P.S. Brought the classic avvy back.

[Whirlysplat]

But that doesn't even work grammatically. How could it be wrong's opinion?

Actually it does if you read it.

It's implying your statement is wrong rather than an opinion. It's giving the idea that a "right" or "wrong" answer exists in relation to our discussion, which of course it can't possibly. It's also a joke. I digress and sadly jokes are never funny when they have to be explained. As I said - it's all good, relax if you don't get or don't find it then amusing don't worry.

End.

- Whirly

[regwec]

"Who else's would it be?"

"Wrong, perhaps".

It doesn't work grammatically. If I had said "what else would it be", then that would scan perfectly. But I didn't.

[Whirlysplat]

"Who else's would it be?"

"Wrong, perhaps".

It doesn't work grammatically. If I had said "what else would it be", then that would scan perfectly. But I didn't.

Ahh... Fair point! I'd read it as "what else would it be", as I was merely scanning your post and slightly amused by the seriousness of your response. That's my error but..... If your name was regwec Wrong or Mr. Wrong, it almost does, i'm not implying you are Mr Wrong. In this case I was Mr. Wrong. However, it's even more amusing this way. ;)

- Whirly

[regwec]

That's Doctor Wrong to you.

[Whirlysplat]

That's Doctor Wrong to you.

:) Very good indeed

- Whirly

[Mister Sinister]

My avvy - does anyone have the bigger version of it?

[regwec]

I'm sure this has been done before, but I feel indulgent. The Doctors, in order of preference:

Tom Baker
William Hartnell
Christopher Eccleston
David Tennant (so far)
Paul McGann
Peter Davison
John Pertwee
Patrick Troughton
Sylvester McCoy
Colin Baker

The next Doctor should be: John Hurt, Mark Gatiss or Stephen Fry.

[Whirlysplat]

I'm sure this has been done before, but I feel indulgent. The Doctors, in order of preference:

Tom Baker
William Hartnell
Christopher Eccleston
David Tennant (so far)
Paul McGann
Peter Davison
John Pertwee
Patrick Troughton
Sylvester McCoy
Colin Baker

The next Doctor should be: John Hurt, Mark Gatiss or Stephen Fry.

I think Fry would be awful, Tennant is a little to camp for me. Hugh Laurie would be excellent I feel.

- Whirly

[regwec]

I suggest Fry because I can imagine him bringing a little of Troughton back to the role.

[The Red Skull]

Mark Gatiss would make an excellent Doctor. He's already played him in a Children in Need special. That, and he's a huge fan of the show.

[Whirlysplat]

I suggest Fry because I can imagine him bringing a little of Troughton back to the role.

I don't really remember Troughton having been born in 67, I've seen a few of his stories on telly but few are shown.

- Whirly

[lars573]

That's because the adventures of the first 2 for sure and maybe the 3rd Doctors only have bits and pieces that are still intact. The BBC at the time didn't store them, infact they destroyed them.

[Mr. Thing]

Cillian Murphy for Doctor number 11!

http://topcelebrity8.free.fr/cillian16.jpg

[3dman27]

i just had a thought would ryan seacrest make a good doctor who?

[Whirlysplat]

That's because the adventures of the first 2 for sure and maybe the 3rd Doctors only have bits and pieces that are still intact. The BBC at the time didn't store them, infact they destroyed them.

I grew up with the 3rd and 4th, I know this.

- Whirly

[Lady Stormcrow]

cybermen tomorrow!

Also, a few months back, I never thought I'd say this, but after school reunion, and girl in the fireplace, I actually think...


I like Mickey's character
He used to really annoy me, but he's had some great lines this series, and has done some quite funny pieces of acting, like running around the space ship with the ice gun.

[regwec]

http://www.heidiharrington.com/images/Mark_Gatiss_smaller_file_for_website.jpg

How Mark Gatiss should look in the role.

Edit: (The painting is by somebody called Heidi Harrington, who seems to produce some amazing stuff).

[regwec]

Cillian Murphy for Doctor number 11!
A great actor, but I'm not keen on The Doctors getting younger and younger.

[Bat Brain]

That is a really good drawing. Mark Gatiss wouldn't be half bad as the Doctor.

[lars573]

I grew up with the 3rd and 4th, I know this.

- Whirly
Good. But it's why they don't show them on TV much anymore. I've seen some of Doctors 1 and 2. One story arc of the second Doctor was a "restored" version. The whole end of one episode was done by makng production stills into a slide show.


Also anyone know when the second season is going to start on CBC?

[Whirlysplat]

Good. But it's why they don't show them on TV much anymore. I've seen some of Doctors 1 and 2. One story arc of the second Doctor was a "restored" version. The whole end of one episode was done by makng production stills into a slide show.


Also anyone know when the second season is going to start on CBC?

I know that also. That said having learnt to read with the old Doctors stories, they were very childish and camp. Interestingly it was originally intended to be a semi educational historical program for kids. It was though always a full BBC drama production.

- Whirly

[black_dust]

Get a black Dr :)

[Captain Villa]

Return of the CYBERMEN tonight !!

[black_dust]

Return of the CYBERMEN tonight !!


With trigger!!

http://www.personalmag.co.yu/mucke/slike/roger.jpg
Dr - "I`ll stop you"

Trigger - "Hello, Dave"

Dr - "No im the Doctor"

Trigger - "Ok dave"

[lars573]

I know that also. That said having learnt to read with the old Doctors stories, they were very childish and camp. Interestingly it was originally intended to be a semi educational historical program for kids. It was though always a full BBC drama production.

- Whirly
I read about that too. Never was too clear on when they dropped the whole "for kids" angle though.

[Captain Villa]

With trigger!!

http://www.personalmag.co.yu/mucke/slike/roger.jpg
Dr - "I`ll stop you"

Trigger - "Hello, Dave"

Dr - "No im the Doctor"

Trigger - "Ok dave"


PMSL !!!!!!

[regwec]

Get a black Dr :)
It's an interesting point- for all of the Doctor's incarnations, there is a certain consistency in his genetic makeup. "He" has never been a "she", nor anything other than white. I'm not against either particulary, but I do like to feel that the Doctor does, to some degree, remain the same entity despite his many regenerations.

[The Red Skull]

It's an interesting point- for all of the Doctor's incarnations, there is a certain consistency in his genetic makeup. "He" has never been a "she", nor anything other than white. I'm not against either particulary, but I do like to feel that the Doctor does, to some degree, remain the same entity despite his many regenerations.
Whereas a change to a female Doctor may be a bit too dramatic for my liking, Romana illustrated the ability of a Timelord to regenerate into an entirely different species. A change in race seems paltry by comparison.

A change in colour wouldn't particulalry gall me. I'd feel more upset if the Doctor regenerated into an incarnation with an American accent.

That, and I think this chap would make a particularly excellent Doctor:

http://www.whedonsworld.com/files/pix/serenity/operative/theoperative01.jpg

Chiwetel Ejiofor: you probably know him from Serenity, but the man's a particularly excellent character actor who's been seen in numerous comedies and "straight" drama films. Look him up on IMDB.

Having said that, I think Mark Gatiss is by far the best nominee for the 11th Doctor.

[Mr. Thing]

omg, that was sheer brilliance.

A "Spare Part" referance!

An "Invasion" reference!

Cybermen!

OMG!

[Happenstance]

Quite a good episode tonight, not a lot of action but thats usual for a two parter.
Unfortunately though Roger Lloyd Pack's acting was awful.

[regwec]

-I really do think we can afford to be spared any more Mickey.

-The "upgrade" scene made me feel slightly sick.

-Billie impresses me more and more all of the time.

-Can we please get the **** off earth?

-Quite well written.

-Cybermen are as cool as ever.