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Mr. Thing

06-25-2006, 02:28 PM

"I was a father once"

:eek: WHAT???????? :eek:

So does that mean that his kid got killed in the time war then? Poor doctor :(

If you'd watched any of the Early Hartnell episodes, you would have known this. He travelled with his Grandaughter Susan.

Mr. Thing

06-25-2006, 02:28 PM

damn:(

thats where i got pete being back...how could i miss mickey?:(

Pete, Mickey and Jake are there.

Lord Valumart

06-25-2006, 02:29 PM

Pete, Mickey and Jake are there.
i think it's fact now that i'm blind:(

Whirlysplat

06-25-2006, 02:30 PM

If you'd watched any of the Early Hartnell episodes, you would have known this. He travelled with his Grandaughter Susan.

Even I wasn't born then and I was born in 67. Although I did know about Susan. She also appeared in the Cushing movies as a character as well.

- Whirly

Mr. Thing

06-25-2006, 02:32 PM

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8215/aogpreview333zg.jpg

That pretty much confirms it, doesn't it?

DALEKS! CYBERMEN! SQUEEEEEE!

Mr. Thing

06-25-2006, 02:33 PM

Even I wasn't born then and I was born in 67. Although I did know about Susan. She also appeared in the Cushing movies as a character as well.

- Whirly

I was born in 89. :D

Whirlysplat

06-25-2006, 02:34 PM

I was born in 89. :D

Hey, you'll have ID, to be able to get in pubs soon ;)

- Whirly

FreeRadical

06-25-2006, 02:55 PM

Looks like Mickey is back look behind Jackie :(

http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc80&image=77110_AogTrail19.jpg

- Whirly

Dammit, the tin dog is back :( .

Bastila

06-25-2006, 03:18 PM

I didn't like yesterdays episodes much, but next week is it me or are there darleks as you see someone die like they got shot by one and also it got me thinking does Rose die, i don't want her to if she does but anyone know? and in that picture with Mickey Rose's dad is in it, so is next week set in the other univers? Looks like it is going to be one great season ending.

Bastila

06-25-2006, 03:23 PM

After seeing the trailer for next weeks episode...

If the Cybermen from the other Earth are coming, could it mean Mickey and Rose's dad (Pete) will make an appearance? Would Rose and Jackie decide to stay in the other dimension with Pete at the end of the series?

thats a good point. Maybe.

Lord Valumart

06-25-2006, 03:26 PM

Bastila

06-25-2006, 03:28 PM

it's not in the Alt U. it's the ult u bleeding in to the normal U

oh yeah the Doctor said somthing about two merging together.

Lord Valumart

06-25-2006, 03:30 PM

oh yeah the Doctor said somthing about two merging together.
yeh, also it's more than likely there are daleks at some point in the 2 eps, look at the pic on the previous page, they wouldn't make a new dalek for no reason....

Bastila

06-25-2006, 03:39 PM

Some nice pictures it is going to be intresting, i'm just trying to think what will happen.

Also in the triler Rose talks like shes a ghost as she talks about the past in a way.

The Amazing Lee

06-25-2006, 03:50 PM

I managed to watch "Fear Me" tonight on BBC3.

It dissapointed me. I've liked all the episodes so far, but that episode just seemed like Tracy Beaker on acid and it made no sense either. The episode was poor.

Whirlysplat

06-25-2006, 03:53 PM

2 old friends meet.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Dartzap/twoshot.jpg

- Whirly

The Amazing Lee

06-25-2006, 03:55 PM

**whistles**

Also, the Doctor needs to be more serious...sometimes it's like he's a pantomime character. :(

Lord Valumart

06-25-2006, 03:56 PM

2 old friends meet.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Dartzap/twoshot.jpg

- Whirly
i want credit for that

Whirlysplat

06-25-2006, 04:02 PM

i want credit for that

I just looked back you posted it also lol.

I agree AL it is a lot like panto. Tennant is not as good imo.

- Whirly

Lord Valumart

06-25-2006, 04:06 PM

I just looked back you posted it also lol.

I agree AL it is a lot like panto. Tennant is not as good imo.

- Whirly
they should have kept McGann on as the doctor that would have ruled so much:)

Whirlysplat

06-25-2006, 04:07 PM

they should have kept McGann on as the doctor that would have ruled so much:)

I actually agree, although I liked Eccleston a great deal.

- Whirly

Lord Valumart

06-25-2006, 04:12 PM

I actually agree, although I liked Eccleston a great deal.

- Whirly
the only thing with McGann would be the costume....it would have been awful:(

Whirlysplat

06-25-2006, 04:14 PM

the only thing with McGann would be the costume....it would have been awful:(

I liked it but..... It would not have looked good on a Council Estate in Cardiff and I think that says more about the locations used than McGanns costume.

- Whirly

Mr. Thing

06-25-2006, 04:15 PM

2 old friends meet.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Dartzap/twoshot.jpg

- Whirly

That picture is from a Radio Times photo shoot, not an actual episode.

The Amazing Lee

06-25-2006, 04:17 PM

Don't get me wrong, Tennant is a good doctor....but sometimes he plays it OTT.

Mr. Thing

06-25-2006, 04:19 PM

I liked it but..... It would not have looked good on a Council Estate in Cardiff and I think that says more about the locations used than McGanns costume.

- Whirly

...er...nope it's McGanns costume. :D

Whirlysplat

06-25-2006, 04:24 PM

That picture is from a Radio Times photo shoot, not an actual episode.

I know, however it indicates both are present. You can see photographic equipment in the background clearly.

...er...nope it's McGanns costume. :D

So you like the Geography teacher look more?

Don't get me wrong, Tennant is a good doctor....but sometimes he plays it OTT.

Imagine how camp he would be in a Pertwee/ McGann type costume :eek:

- Whirly

TheCorpulent1

06-26-2006, 12:17 PM

I like the geography teacher look. I actually missed the tie in "Fear Me." I like the contrast it creates with Eccleston's more casual/sophisticated Doctor. Tennant's is like a caricature of a teacher with the brown pinstripes and the white sneakers. It works well, I think.

That said, "Fear Me" sucked. I'm looking forward to the next couple of episodes, though. Cybermen rule. :)

Lady Stormcrow

06-26-2006, 12:27 PM

I like the geography teacher look. I actually missed the tie in "Fear Me." I like the contrast it creates with Eccleston's more casual/sophisticated Doctor. Tennant's is like a caricature of a teacher with the brown pinstripes and the white sneakers. It works well, I think.

I agree! I always seem to notice when he isnt wearing the tie, because it looks quite good with the rest of his outfit.

Hollow Wood Director

06-26-2006, 12:35 PM

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8215/aogpreview333zg.jpg

That pretty much confirms it, doesn't it?

DALEKS! CYBERMEN! SQUEEEEEE!

Maybe not. Could be other things.

I heard talk of Torchwood adapted Dalek guns, maybe the Cybermen have gotten hold of these in the invasion and are killing humans this way. Perhaps the humans who are being fired upon are not human and are some other kind of alien we are not familiar with yet and Torchwood have to use their Dalek guns to kill them. Remember they do say in the BBC blurb that there are two invading alien forces and the humans are stuck in the middle.Until we see a Dalek we can't accurately say they are going to be in these episodes. There are plenty of rumours of a black Dalek and Mark Gatiss saying he had missed them filming scenes with Cybermen & Daleks and a kid who visited the set said he saw a Dalek, and of course there have been the reports in the Sun newspaper who have uncannily gotten every bit of Doctor Who gossip right, but at the end of the day we haven't seen a Dalek in the trailer just some people getting shot by a Dalek type ray blast.

_BB_

06-26-2006, 01:50 PM

Don't get me wrong, Tennant is a good doctor....but sometimes he plays it OTT.

Have to agree there. Tennant is okay but somethings just missing in his performance, as someone said earlier he plays it as if he were in a pantomime most of the time.

I have honestly been disappointed with the second series as a whole, I cant remember half the episodes and there isnt one that really stands out for me either unlike the first series, the stories IMO just arent as strong and I really miss Ecclestones doctor and the relationship he had with Rose, the dynamics have completely changed now and I find the relationship between them boring and repetitive and above all (i really hate this word but i'm going to have to use it) cheesy.

Im hoping the series finale is at least half as good as the parting of the ways.

regwec

06-26-2006, 03:23 PM

Whirlysplat

06-26-2006, 03:53 PM

The Englishman

06-26-2006, 05:48 PM

We need to get off Earth more in series 3, and with the new companion, i don't want to know about her/his family, it bores me. As the ninth Doctor said many times... " I don't do Domestic".

TheCorpulent1

06-26-2006, 05:50 PM

For me, "The Girl in the Fireplace" was the highlight, as it was truly imaginative.

I think that the producers need to change the thrust of the programme altogether. Their motto should be "adventure and exploration" rather than "relationships and familiarity".
"The Girl in the Fireplace" is my favorite episode of the entire new show, Eccleston episodes included. :up:

I agree about the change in focus. Hopefully with Rose set to die or permanently leave in some other way, the producers will free the Doctor from his ties to 21st-century Earth and allow him to move around the universe a bit more. I really have trouble believing that the show's budget is so small that they can't put together some kind of alien world for at least the majority of episodes next season. Other sci-fi shows and the older Doctor Who shows manage to do it, after all.

The Englishman

06-26-2006, 06:02 PM

Red Dwarf manages to create believable Alian worlds and i don't believe thats got a big budget??...

JokerFish

06-26-2006, 06:13 PM

Id like to see how the doctor acts without any companions for a couple of episodes....

Whirlysplat

06-26-2006, 06:15 PM

Id like to see how the doctor acts without any companions for a couple of episodes....

Agreed I'm sick of one man and his chav (chav used in the popularist context rather than its original form, stated as not to offend any traveller).

- Whirly

TheCorpulent1

06-26-2006, 06:28 PM

Yeah, seeing the Doctor handle things alone would be nice. Rose served her purpose as PoV character for the new show; viewers should be well enough acquainted with the Doctor by now that we can see him go about his business without having to explain every detail to a companion.

Lady Stormcrow

06-27-2006, 06:20 AM

Red Dwarf manages to creat believable Alien worlds and i don't believe thats got a big budget??...

Yeah, and classic doctor who had only a shoestring budget and they managed to go all over the place.

Ive heard its hard to write a story with just the doctor, because he cant explain what he's doing to anyone. The companion's always there to ask the questions that the audience would.

Mister Sinister

06-27-2006, 06:23 AM

AOG site's up.

The Englishman

06-27-2006, 05:19 PM

Red Dwarf manages to create believable Alian worlds and i don't believe thats got a big budget??...

In fact i want to see The Doctor land the Tardis on Red Dwarf........Ha that would be fun!! :up: :)

Whirlysplat

06-27-2006, 05:20 PM

In fact i want to see The Doctor land the Tardis on Red Dwarf........Ha that would be fun!! :up: :)

lol yes it would.

- Whirly

regwec

06-27-2006, 05:24 PM

Funnily enough, the current Doctor sounds almost exactly like Rimmer when he is trying to be cross.

Speedball

06-27-2006, 05:25 PM

Whirlysplat

06-27-2006, 05:43 PM

Funnily enough, the current Doctor sounds almost exactly like Rimmer when he is trying to be cross.

:up: True

ok, i see most of the people in this thread are from Europe, I'm from the U.S.
I LOVED the first season. It made me a fan.
But i have a question how would you rate the second season so far?
please no spoilers.

Poorly :down

- Whirly

JokerFish

06-27-2006, 06:44 PM

The only one I really loved was TGITF, but then again. lots of people loved that episode.

O and im from America as well.

FreeRadical

06-27-2006, 07:31 PM

ok, i see most of the people in this thread are from Europe, I'm from the U.S.
I LOVED the first season. It made me a fan.
But i have a question how would you rate the second season so far?
please no spoilers.

The second season is okay, even though The Doctor feels like secondary character in some of the episodes, with Rose taking the lead :( .

Super Mark

06-28-2006, 02:28 AM

A new actor? ALready? I like this guy! Come back!

Mr. Thing

06-28-2006, 01:40 PM

So you like the Geography teacher look more?

Yeah.

The Englishman

06-29-2006, 06:34 PM

Funnily enough, the current Doctor sounds almost exactly like Rimmer when he is trying to be cross.

Actually..Yeah your right he does.

Bastila

06-30-2006, 09:57 AM

I wounder what the Doctor ment when he said he was a dad once, wounder if we get to know more about that.

Lady Stormcrow

06-30-2006, 11:01 AM

I wounder what the Doctor ment when he said he was a dad once, wounder if we get to know more about that.

Probably. Up until recently I'd forgotten about that whole secret to do with the face of Boe too. I wonder if we'll learn about that too.

Avalanche

06-30-2006, 01:10 PM

Don't get me wrong, Tennant is a good doctor....but sometimes he plays it OTT.
Agreed. Lately he's shown very little range too. He's been a very one dimensional character. We saw in "The Girl In The Fireplace" that Tennant has the capacity to act with range and emotion. I only wish they'd make more of this. I'm getting a little sick of Tennant to be honest for this reason. I'd like to see a little more depth and range.

TheCorpulent1

06-30-2006, 03:14 PM

I think that's more the writing's fault than Tennant's. As you said, "The Girl in the Fireplace" and other episodes have shown that Tennant has a pretty good range. The episodes lately have just been very one-note and haven't really given the Doctor a whole lot to do, to be honest. Maybe if they did something drastic like--oh, I don't know--take the Doctor somewhere other than Earth in the freakin' 21st century, we might see the Doctor in a situation that requires more than just a joke and zap from the sonic screwdriver.

Dope Nose

06-30-2006, 04:50 PM

here's the last eight minutes of season one featuring the Doctor's regeneration.

"I think you need a Doctor."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNEAzJ9H7rU&search=dr%20who

also, anyone know where I can view/download episodes? I used to keep up thanks to people uploading to youtube, but it seems they're cracking down given most of the users I depended on for episodes have had their accounts suspended.

regwec

06-30-2006, 04:52 PM

Eccelston was so much better. :(

Dope Nose

06-30-2006, 05:27 PM

hilarious clip of Jon Culshaw from Dead Ringers impersonating Tom Baker as the Doctor while phoning the real Tom Baker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTFYgeQ3KBg&search=jon%20culshaw%20tom%20baker

Whirlysplat

06-30-2006, 06:32 PM

Eccelston was so much better. :(

Agreed Reg!

- Whirly

Avalanche

06-30-2006, 06:37 PM

I kind of didn't like Eccleston's in your face northernness. And I'm nothern myself.

1987olds442

06-30-2006, 09:11 PM

I just saw this little spoof over at youtube, so I thought I would post a link here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKg8tPGazRk&mode=related&search=jon%20culshaw%20tom%20baker

Whirlysplat

07-01-2006, 07:45 AM

I just saw this little spoof over at youtube, so I thought I would post a link here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKg8tPGazRk&mode=related&search=jon%20culshaw%20tom%20baker

I think it says it all.

- Whirly

TheCorpulent1

07-01-2006, 01:16 PM

here's the last eight minutes of season one featuring the Doctor's regeneration.

"Sounds like you need a Doctor."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNEAzJ9H7rU&search=dr%20who

also, anyone know where I can view/download episodes? I used to keep up thanks to people uploading to youtube, but it seems they're cracking down given most of the users I depended on for episodes have had their accounts suspended.
The 9th Doctor's death scene was one of my favorites ever. "You were fantastic... and d'you know what? So was I!" :D

Mr. Thing

07-01-2006, 02:47 PM

Omg. That was ****ing brilliant.

wobbly

07-01-2006, 02:55 PM

Just watched the latest episode...Liked it and it had a kick-@ss surprise at the end too (well it was to me at any rate).

Sets up the last episode very nicely, which by all accounts has a conclusion that's less of a surpise.

Quentin Beck

07-01-2006, 03:14 PM

OMFG! Today's episode rocked!

2 Villains in the last episode! :eek: fangasm

SpideyLad

07-01-2006, 03:17 PM

That can only be described in one word.......Fantastic....

The series finale is going to rock! Daleks v Cybermen!

wobbly

07-01-2006, 03:18 PM

That can only be described in one word.......Fantastic....

The series finale is going to rock! *********

You might wanna put that last bit in spoiler tags, a lot of people round here won't see this for a little while yet.

Lord Valumart

07-01-2006, 03:20 PM

all i want to say is.....

so obvious, so crazy, so fantastic, so brilliant, and lucky doctor getting a kiss from jackie;)

i am how ever screwed next saturday cause i'll get hit constantly cause i'll be glued to the screen and my gf will be annoyed:(

_BB_

07-01-2006, 03:22 PM

I heard "genesis" in next weeks preview and you just know that it has to be davros inside that huge casing that the daleks were protecting!

What an episode! Finally, doctor who series two delivers. This is the kind of episode ive been waiting to see all series. Next week is going to be VERY interesting.

Great to see the Torchwood preview on doctor who confidential as well, captain jacks back :eek: :D

I read on another forum that John Barrowman who plays jack was asked if he was going to appear in the end of series two and all he said was "wait and see" with that usual cheeky smile on his face. I cant see this happening myself but who knows eh?

Mr. Thing

07-01-2006, 03:23 PM

That can only be described in one word.......Fantastic....

The series finale is going to rock! Daleks v Cybermen!

They're not versing each other remember.

Mr. Thing

07-01-2006, 03:24 PM

Lord Valumart

07-01-2006, 03:26 PM

So, Phantasm's back, eh? ;)
damn you people!!!:mad:

no:(

Mr. Thing

07-01-2006, 03:39 PM

damn you people!!!:mad:

no:(

I'm just messin with you Kenny.

Lord Valumart

07-01-2006, 03:41 PM

I'm just messin with you Kenny.
i refuse to coment on this for fear you find and post my pic

anyhow...black dalek...woot!! i was right:D

Mr. Thing

07-01-2006, 03:43 PM

i refuse to coment on this for fear you find and post my pic

anyhow...black dalek...woot!! i was right:D

I was hoping for some Shada action.

Lord Valumart

07-01-2006, 03:46 PM

I was hoping for some Shada action.
damn you....you went a step furthere and confused me:(

one day i'll have my revenge:mad:

...possibly...:(

Mr. Thing

07-01-2006, 03:48 PM

damn you....you went a step furthere and confused me:(

one day i'll have my revenge:mad:

...possibly...:(

How the hell is that confusing?

Lord Valumart

07-01-2006, 03:49 PM

How the hell is that confusing?
no idea....

SpideyLad

07-01-2006, 04:51 PM

You might wanna put that last bit in spoiler tags, a lot of people round here won't see this for a little while yet.

Done:up:

Lord Valumart

07-01-2006, 04:53 PM

new avvy:up:

and it rocks:D:D

Whirlysplat

07-01-2006, 04:56 PM

Enjoyable.

:)

- Whirly

_BB_

07-01-2006, 05:37 PM

new avvy:up:

and it rocks:D:D

how on earth did you get that clip up already?

livrule

07-01-2006, 05:55 PM

Soooo ...

Whats the "genesis ark" and whats inside ??

Awesome episode ...

Whirlysplat

07-01-2006, 06:00 PM

Soooo ...

Whats the "genesis ark" and whats inside ??

Awesome episode ...

I think it might create Daleks:) You put a person in and........ It's Dalek shaped.

- Whirly

Lady Stormcrow

07-01-2006, 06:55 PM

I think it might create Daleks:) You put a person in and........ It's Dalek shaped.

- Whirly

Yeah, because theres only three now, and that's not too bad...really....maybe...

Im not sure :p

black_dust

07-01-2006, 07:53 PM

What a great one this week, some great acting in it :)

Rose is kinda **** at rescue missions hu? haha Cant wait till next week now :D Poor Rose :(

Whirlysplat

07-01-2006, 08:07 PM

What a great one this week, some great acting in it :)

Rose is kinda **** at rescue missions hu? haha Cant wait till next week now :D Poor Rose :(

I think the script was better :up:. Sadly they had to have Eastenders in it.:down

The plot was a fanboys wet dream and the sets were better.

- Whirly

Flame on!

07-01-2006, 08:16 PM

I wounder what the Doctor ment when he said he was a dad once, wounder if we get to know more about that.
I doubt it. It was more of a nod to the past, rather than a hint of
the future.

black_dust

07-01-2006, 08:17 PM

They had Peggy, Dens wife, what ever her name was and i think the science guy was in enders as well WTF? haha.

So how pissed will the Doctor be when Rose dies :)?

livrule

07-01-2006, 08:56 PM

They had Peggy, Dens wife, what ever her name was and i think the science guy was in enders as well WTF? haha.

So how pissed will the Doctor be when Rose dies :)?

I have a feeling she does not die ... I mean her voice over tells us this is the story of her death but how could she tell us in the first place ??

Maybe she fakes her death ... or something happens that means she has to hide from the Doctor ... making him think shes dead ...

I'm probably very wrong but something seems a bit odd.

SpideyLad

07-02-2006, 07:11 AM

new avvy:up:

and it rocks:D:D

Thank you, thank you :D :up:

Lord Valumart

07-02-2006, 09:08 AM

how on earth did you get that clip up already?
what clip??

the cyberman's head going boom? it's from age of steel;)

Mister Sinister

07-02-2006, 09:12 AM

what clip??

the cyberman's head going boom? it's from age of steel;)
However The Cyberleader does get decapitated in Doomsday as well

Lord Valumart

07-02-2006, 09:18 AM

However The Cyberleader does get decapitated in Doomsday as well
it's not him in the avvy though....

and thats a thing...is the Cybercontroler dead?

Bastila

07-02-2006, 02:16 PM

I liked this weeks one, Doctor was funny when he pretended that Jackie was Rose, oh i don't want Rose to die i like her. I thought last years final was sad but cool and this one is going to be sad.

How did the Darleks get there, were they not all killed?
Cyberman where cool, my mum bless her is still scared of them, why, i do not know lol.
I liked it when the Psyic paper didn't work for Rose she's not good at sneaky around places.

Can't wait till next week.

The Englishman

07-02-2006, 02:29 PM

If this episode leads into The Torchwood spin off then how the hell does Captan Jack get involved???

Nice to see Eccleston briefly at the start........"RUN!"

TheCorpulent1

07-02-2006, 02:46 PM

How did the Darleks get there, were they not all killed?
Presumably the Daleks had the void ship prepared and managed to escape last season's finale and hide in the void. Or maybe a Dalek survived, despite all of the crap that went down in the previous finale. They seem to be tenacious bastards.

I loved the episode. I always thought it was kind of weird how the Doctor had two arch-nemeses who were so similar. The Daleks and Cybermen are both emotionless machines who want to destroy everything. I'm glad they finally had the bright idea to team them up. :up:

Whirlysplat

07-02-2006, 03:03 PM

Presumably the Daleks had the void ship prepared and managed to escape last season's finale and hide in the void. Or maybe a Dalek survived, despite all of the crap that went down in the previous finale. They seem to be tenacious bastards.

I loved the episode. I always thought it was kind of weird how the Doctor had two arch-nemeses who were so similar. The Daleks and Cybermen are both emotionless machines who want to destroy everything. I'm glad they finally had the bright idea to team them up. :up:

I don't think they'll team up despite the trailer.

- Whirly

black_dust

07-02-2006, 03:22 PM

I think that

that the dr will persude the cybermen to stop the Daleks because if the daleks kill all the humans, what will the cybermen use to create more peeps :D

TheCorpulent1

07-02-2006, 03:45 PM

I don't think they'll team up despite the trailer.

- Whirly
Me either, I meant I was surprised it took someone this long to have the Cybermen and the Daleks together in a big crossover. Of course, there may be a previous crossover that I don't know about from one of the Doctor's other 20-some-odd seasons.

I think the Cybermen will want the Daleks to help them take over the world, but the Daleks will just try to kill them instead. Then the Doctor will escape in the mayhem, pick up Captain Jack from the far future, work some prep-time magic, and then zap back in seconds after he left to defeat both the Cybermen and the Daleks in one fell swoop.

Or something like that. :)

Whirlysplat

07-02-2006, 03:59 PM

Me either, I meant I was surprised it took someone this long to have the Cybermen and the Daleks together in a big crossover. Of course, there may be a previous crossover that I don't know about from one of the Doctor's other 20-some-odd seasons.

I think the Cybermen will want the Daleks to help them take over the world, but the Daleks will just try to kill them instead. Then the Doctor will escape in the mayhem, pick up Captain Jack from the far future, work some prep-time magic, and then zap back in seconds after he left to defeat both the Cybermen and the Daleks in one fell swoop.

Or something like that. :)

The 5 Doctors in 1983 ;) had both Daleks and Cybermen.

- Whirly

TheCorpulent1

07-02-2006, 04:39 PM

Yeah. That's one of the few episodes I've seen, too. But they didn't interact with each other, and they weren't even important to the plot, really.

Sentry2005

07-02-2006, 05:00 PM

Whirlysplat

07-02-2006, 05:03 PM

Yeah. That's one of the few episodes I've seen, too. But they didn't interact with each other, and they weren't even important to the plot, really.

All true and I agree they weren't important to the plot. I was just being a smart ass.

- Whirly

TheCorpulent1

07-02-2006, 05:38 PM

see, what I thought was happening was that the Darleks we saw here were from the alternate earth, or rather an alternate earth. Didn't the Torchwood people (might have been the Doctor) say that the void ship came through first, allowing the walls between realities to crack, which let the Cybermen through?

Admitedly I was flipping between Doctor Who and Malcom in the Middle for the first twenty-ish minutes, so I may have missed something (like Peggy from Eastenders... WTF?!)
That's a possibility. I thought the Time War the Doctor mentioned was the final battle between all of the Daleks and the Time Lords. The Doctor did mention that the Time Lords had access to alternate realities, and obviously the Daleks have the technological capability to breach dimensions, so I thought that included Daleks and Time Lords from alternate realities, too. If it didn't, then there could be some interesting times ahead in the third season, with the Doctor maybe getting reunited with alternate Time Lords. That'd be cool.

wobbly

07-02-2006, 06:04 PM

That's a possibility. I thought the Time War the Doctor mentioned was the final battle between all of the Daleks and the Time Lords. The Doctor did mention that the Time Lords had access to alternate realities, and obviously the Daleks have the technological capability to breach dimensions, so I thought that included Daleks and Time Lords from alternate realities, too. If it didn't, then there could be some interesting times ahead in the third season, with the Doctor maybe getting reunited with alternate Time Lords. That'd be cool.

That brings up a question that I've been wondering about: I didn't see all the first series so I don't know if it was explained but the last I knew the Time Lords were alive and well wearing outrageous hats on Galafrey. But now Galafrey is gone the Doctor is the last of them? Did the Daleks destroy them in this 'Time War' you mentioned?

Also, have they referenced the Paul McGann Doctor* at all or that he only has 2 re-generations left?

*reason for asking is that Mcganns telefilm had the bizarre revelation that the Doctor is half-human.

TheCorpulent1

07-02-2006, 06:12 PM

As far as I know (and I just got into Doctor Who, so I could very well be wrong), there's no explanation for the time between McGann's TV movie and the first season of the current series. McGann's Doctor heads off to wherever at the end of the TV movie, then we learn from the current series that sometime between then and the first episode of the current series, there was a huge, final battle between the Daleks and the Time Lords and both sides were wiped out as far as the Doctor knew. Later we learn that one Dalek survived and cloned new Daleks using humans as the raw genetic material. This new breed of Dalek has a radically different perspective, viewing the sole surviving original Dalek as the Dalek God and themselves as his faithful followers. The Doctor destroys those Daleks in the current series' previous season finale. Now we've got the Doctor, no Time Lords, no Galafrey, and a new batch of Daleks that may or may not be from an alternate reality.

Lord Valumart

07-02-2006, 06:16 PM

That brings up a question that I've been wondering about: I didn't see all the first series so I don't know if it was explained but the last I knew the Time Lords were alive and well wearing outrageous hats on Galafrey. But now Galafrey is gone the Doctor is the last of them? Did the Daleks destroy them in this 'Time War' you mentioned?

Also, have they referenced the Paul McGann Doctor* at all or that he only has 2 re-generations left?

*reason for asking is that Mcganns telefilm had the bizarre revelation that the Doctor is half-human.
McGann's doctor hasn't been mentionedbut it's assumed that McGann in his wisdom built a delta wave type thing and created a blast that wivped out every thing in it's radius, but had an "eye" where he was safe, but it did damage him enough to force his regeneration.

and yes, McGann was half human, but it is explained in the TVM that he can change species during a regeneration, and due to the fact that when he was stil McCoy he was treated with drugs meant for human use he cahnged into a half human/half timelord inorded to cope with the drugs, and this would have either changed with in the 15 hours after the regeneration(thank you RTD:up: )or he's full timelord again due to the McGann>Eccelston regeneration.

and doesn;t he have 13 lives?

wobbly

07-02-2006, 06:16 PM

Lord Valumart

07-02-2006, 06:19 PM

TheCorpulent1

07-02-2006, 06:21 PM

What's Big Finish?

Awesome avatar, by the way. Pete Tyler's great. :)
Thanks. Seems like that 'Time War' was a pretty damn big event to just skip over, maybe they are planning to explore that at some point down the line.
I thought the same. As soon as I heard about the Time War I searched online for some reference to where it was shown so I could try to download it or get the DVD or something, but it seems it's not actually shown anywhere.

wobbly

07-02-2006, 06:37 PM

McGann's doctor hasn't been mentionedbut it's assumed that McGann in his wisdom built a delta wave type thing and created a blast that wivped out every thing in it's radius, but had an "eye" where he was safe, but it did damage him enough to force his regeneration.

and yes, McGann was half human, but it is explained in the TVM that he can change species during a regeneration, and due to the fact that when he was stil McCoy he was treated with drugs meant for human use he cahnged into a half human/half timelord inorded to cope with the drugs, and this would have either changed with in the 15 hours after the regeneration(thank you RTD:up: )or he's full timelord again due to the McGann>Eccelston regeneration.

and doesn;t he have 13 lives?

Thanks for that, though I can't say I recall anything in the TVM stating the drugs were responsible for his condition (or the changing species part), just the Master being shocked at finding it out.
Still, the 15 hours 'flux' period works for me at undoing the idea whatever the case so I guess they don't have to mention it again to stay 'in-continuity'.

And right you are: he can re-generate 12 times, giving him 13 lives in total (though you can bet they will come up with a way to carry on after that if they want to)

Lord Valumart

07-02-2006, 06:39 PM

What's Big Finish?

Awesome avatar, by the way. Pete Tyler's great. :)

I thought the same. As soon as I heard about the Time War I searched online for some reference to where it was shown so I could try to download it or get the DVD or something, but it seems it's not actually shown anywhere.
big finish make audio CD's of doctor who and other stuff...they have a brilliant range with McGann's doctor that picks up after the TVM, but they're not alowed to do anything bout the timewar due to the conflict of old series(1st - 8th doctor) and the new series(er...yeh) so they can;t even get Eccelston to do even 1 single audio, not that he would but still...

the timewar will most likely be showen at some point in the series future in a mutli doctor story futuring McGann and Tennant(i can dream)

and yes, Pete rules:up:

Lord Valumart

07-02-2006, 06:39 PM

wobbly

07-02-2006, 06:40 PM

TheCorpulent1

07-02-2006, 06:44 PM

big finish make audio CD's of doctor who and other stuff...they have a brilliant range with McGann's doctor that picks up after the TVM, but they're not alowed to do anything bout the timewar due to the conflict of old series(1st - 8th doctor) and the new series(er...yeh) so they can;t even get Eccelston to do even 1 single audio, not that he would but still...

the timewar will most likely be showen at some point in the series future in a mutli doctor story futuring McGann and Tennant(i can dream)

and yes, Pete rules:up:
That sounds cool. What conflict is there between the old and current series? I thought the current series was basically just a continuation of the old series. They referenced it directly with Sarah Jane and K-9, after all.

Lord Valumart

07-02-2006, 06:48 PM

Thanks for that, though I can't say I recall anything in the TVM stating the drugs were responsible for his condition (or the changing species part), just the Master being shocked at finding it out.
Still, the 15 hours 'flux' period works for me at undoing the idea whatever the case so I guess they don't have to mention it again to stay 'in-continuity'.

And right you are: he can re-generate 12 times, giving him 13 lives in total (though you an bet they will come up with a way to carry on after that if they want to)
the TVM is just a blur to alot of people anyhow, but like you said the 'flux period' solves any problems there

about the extra lives, i always thought it would be cool if there was like a gem thing that could be implanted between the two hearts to allow for more regenerations...

wobbly

07-02-2006, 06:51 PM

That sounds cool. What conflict is there between the old and current series? I thought the current series was basically just a continuation of the old series. They referenced it directly with Sarah Jane and K-9, after all.

There was a conflict with Terry Nation's estate over the use of the Daleks but that's been resolved...Unless his estate has to give permission on where they are used as well? (ie. Yes for the new Tv series, no for anything else)

Lord Valumart

07-02-2006, 06:55 PM

That sounds cool. What conflict is there between the old and current series? I thought the current series was basically just a continuation of the old series. They referenced it directly with Sarah Jane and K-9, after all.
it's to do with rights issues, the new series is a continuation of the old, but the rights to make any product are devided differently, thus why we get the figs and siuch from CO with only the new stuff and not the older stuff for the collector's only market, which sucks, and i hope that in that i've answered your question

Lord Valumart

07-02-2006, 06:56 PM

There was a conflict with Terry Nation's estate over the use of the Daleks but that's been resolved...Unless his estate has to give permission on where they are used as well? (ie. Yes for the new Tv series, no for anything else)
they bypassed this for the new series by going to his family i think, who over rule the estate or something like that...i might just be jibbering....

Mister Sinister

07-02-2006, 07:03 PM

it's not him in the avvy though....

and thats a thing...is the Cybercontroler dead?
Cybercontroller IS dead, Cyberleader is very much alive (or as alive as a mutated, emotionless creature can be) and was in the last episode, keep an eye out for the Cyberman with black handlebars.

Lord Valumart

07-02-2006, 07:08 PM

Cybercontroller IS dead, Cyberleader is very much alive (or as alive as a mutated, emotionless creature can be) and was in the last episode, keep an eye out for the Cyberman with black handlebars.
yeh i saw him, but how do we know cybercontorller is dead? could he not still be alive somehow? i mean....Davros survived alot of crap....why can;t Lumic?

SpideyLad

07-03-2006, 11:32 AM

Doomsday site is up

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/

Zen

07-03-2006, 11:38 AM

so at the end of the latest episode they said "series" finale...

does that mean the end of the show or is that just the british flair for "Season" finale?

wobbly

07-03-2006, 12:22 PM

so at the end of the latest episode they said "series" finale...

does that mean the end of the show or is that just the british flair for "Season" finale?

We seldom refer to a shows run each year as a 'season', it's always been called a series over here, though SkyOne (who show most of the american shows first in the UK) do now use the american terms for them (ie, 24's 2 hour finale was stated as being the 'season finale').

TheCorpulent1

07-03-2006, 12:26 PM

So what do you call the show as a whole in England? In America, that's called the "series."

wobbly

07-03-2006, 12:49 PM

So what do you call the show as a whole in England? In America, that's called the "series."

We've always called a show as a whole the same: a 'Series'.
Basically, we've never bothered to come up with a term to distinguish any particular years run other than calling it the 'current series'. ie if the last episode of the year is about to be shown they'd announce it as "last in the current series", or at the end announce when the series will be back.

But like I said, the american terminology has been creeping in over the last few years via Sky so I wouldn't be surprised if our home-brew shows start getting referred to by the stations in the same manner ("season finale" does sound better).

Happenstance

07-03-2006, 01:18 PM

Yeah its because we dont really have tv seasons like you guys do over in the US. As was mentioned Sky has started using "season" now and thats because over the past few years they have been bringing in a season structure.

The Red Skull

07-03-2006, 02:02 PM

the TVM is just a blur to alot of people anyhow, but like you said the 'flux period' solves any problems there

about the extra lives, i always thought it would be cool if there was like a gem thing that could be implanted between the two hearts to allow for more regenerations...

I'm pretty sure that the 12 regenerations limit was something imposed by the Time Lords. didn't they often offer the Master another set of regenerations whenever they needed his help? Or am I speaking cobblers?

Lord Valumart

07-03-2006, 02:07 PM

I'm pretty sure that the 12 regenerations limit was something imposed by the Time Lords. didn't they often offer the Master another set of regenerations whenever they needed his help? Or am I speaking cobblers.
yes, yes, no

since the Timelords offered the Master a new set thats where i got the idea of the gem thing(yes i;ve watched the 5 doctors once to often)

TheCorpulent1

07-03-2006, 04:18 PM

Maybe that'll be a big arc whenever the Doctor finally gets to his thirteenth regeneration. He's still got three to go.

The Englishman

07-03-2006, 05:23 PM

I hope thats not fora while..... i like Tennant.

TheCorpulent1

07-03-2006, 06:35 PM

So do I. I just wish they had more stories like the current one instead of the crappy stories we got for most of the current season.

IronLion

07-04-2006, 05:49 AM

end of last season, rose almost died and become one with the tardis. this is the story of how she dies. maybe she sacrafices herself again for the doctor and is in another reality so it's an exit for billie piper, but rose comes back in the future. at the start of this ep, she says that earth is where she was born and lived etc. maybe she regenerates......

this leads me to another question, who will be the doctors companion for the next series?

good to see mickey/ricky back. seems he has grown a set. like his character alot.

during the time war, correct me if i am wrong, didnt the doctor mention lkast series that the daleks/time lords 'fell out of time' and were destroyed and that the one that survived may have not.

this leads me to think that if some of the daleks did, and fell into another dimension, so could have some of the timelords. there maybe a few more.

what do you guys think?

also who do you think the big enemy will be in the next series?

we had the daleks, weve got the cybermen, how about the master. can anyone else remember any othe classic reoccuring villains?

ps is there anyway of getting hold of the 5 doctors? i havent seen that in years.

Mister Sinister

07-04-2006, 07:42 AM

New trailer's up

Rose: "I met the emperor, the god of all Daleks...AND I DESTROYED HIM"

Mister Sinister

07-04-2006, 08:13 AM

We have our NEW COMPANION!!

Freema Agyeman as Martha Jones

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2006/07_july/05/agyeman2.shtml

TheCorpulent1

07-04-2006, 09:30 AM

Wow. She's amazingly hot, which is nice. I'm a little disappointed to see that the Doctor will just be jumping to yet another random chick after losing Rose, though. Hopefully he'll spend the first few episodes alone or bickering with companions who aren't quite right in his grief for Rose, at least.

Happenstance

07-04-2006, 10:06 AM

I dont particularly like this simply because she was in saturdays episode and already died! Im not a big fan of shows recycling actors into different roles.

Bastila

07-04-2006, 11:43 AM

I dont particularly like this simply because she was in saturdays episode and already died! Im not a big fan of shows recycling actors into different roles.

me neither its stupied really, as she did have a part in it like one you might remeber as well, and people would be like didn't see die or was in it already.

Also i thought Capt. Jack wsa suppose to be in this season?

TheCorpulent1

07-04-2006, 12:01 PM

I'd like to see Captain Jack come back.

I agree that they probably shouldn't have used Freema in another role this season if they were planning to make her the companion for next season. It's not the first time TV shows have used the same actor for different roles or different actors for the same role, though. I'm sure we'll get used to it.

Mister Sinister

07-04-2006, 12:27 PM

Jack is back next season, the TARDIS Crew will consist of The Doctor, Martha and Jack for at least a few episodes, John's going to wrap up Torchwood then he's filming a few episodes for series 3.

TheCorpulent1

07-04-2006, 12:29 PM

Sweet, I wonder how Jack'll take Rose's absence.

Lord Valumart

07-04-2006, 01:35 PM

i'm going to go on a vent here about the action figs cause i feel like i'll be listened to here...anyhow..

http://toys.search.ebay.co.uk/cyberman_Doctor-Who_W0QQfromZR4QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQsacatZ4299QQsbrsr tZd
THOSE ****ING BASTARDS!!! THE ****ING MONEY GRABBING ARSEHOLE'S!!! LOOK AT HOW MANY OF THE DAMN THINGS THERE ARE ON THERE!!! AND SOME OF THOSE BASTARDS EVEN PUT "RARE" OR "HARD TO FIND", WELL THEY'RE ONLY HARD TO FIND CUASE YOU OWN THE ENTIRE BRITTISH STOCK YOU ****ING GITS!!! FAIR ENOUGH IF YOU WENT IN TO THE SHOP AND BOUGHT THREE OF THEM TO LOOK COOL ON THE SHELF, BUT THIS!!!! THIS IS JUST TAKING THE ****ING BISCUT AND THEN DIPPING IT IN "HAHAHA" BRAND TEA!!!! NOT ALL OF US CAN AFFORD YOUR HIGH PRICE AND THESE TINY FIGS ARE MADE FOR KIDS AND YET THEY CAN'T EVEN GET THEIR LITTLE HAND ON THE ****ING THINGS!!! AND YOUR ALL SICK TWISTED BASTARDS FOR KNOWING THAT COLLECTOR'S WILL PAY THAT AMOUNT FOR THEM!!

I HATE YOU YOU ****ING MONEY GRABBING ARSEHOLE BASTARDS!!! I HOPE YOUR HAPPY WITH YOUR BIG PILE OF CYBERMEN THAT WILL GET YOU 200% RETURN ON CAPITAL, I HOPE YOU DIE IN A WAY THAT FIRST RENDERS YOU WITH OUT YOUR TESITCALS AND LEFT LUNG.....**** YOU!!!

rant over:O
BTW, i do have my own cybermen..i'm just wanting a few more so the shelf actualy looks good:O

The Englishman

07-04-2006, 03:49 PM

So the new companion won't be featured in the christmas special. Good :up: . I hope she has'nt got any crap family members...

Mister Sinister

07-04-2006, 04:41 PM

They've got something 'special' planned for this years Christmas special.

Bastila

07-04-2006, 04:41 PM

Whats that then?

Lord Valumart

07-04-2006, 04:43 PM

They've got something 'special' planned for this years Christmas special.
capt. jack??
SJS??
cybermen figures in every woolworths??!!?!!?!

TELL US DAMN YOU!!!!:mad:

The Red Skull

07-04-2006, 05:16 PM

yes, yes, no

since the Timelords offered the Master a new set thats where i got the idea of the gem thing(yes i;ve watched the 5 doctors once to often)

Well, with the Time Lords gone, is such a device even necessary?

Not that Gallifrey won't be back by the time we see the Thirteenth Doctor.

Lord Valumart

07-04-2006, 05:31 PM

Well, with the Time Lords gone, is such a device even necessary?

Not that Gallifrey won't be back by the time we see the Thirteenth Doctor.
well....if timelords can regenerate time after time after time and the 12 was just a limit put in by the timelords themselfs then wouldn't some sort of DNA altering have to have been done? thus the device suggested by me would still be needed?

The Red Skull

07-04-2006, 06:24 PM

well....if timelords can regenerate time after time after time and the 12 was just a limit put in by the timelords themselfs then wouldn't some sort of DNA altering have to have been done? thus the device suggested by me would still be needed?

Yeah... but... you ever read Alan Moore's Miracleman? Well, in it there exists a kind of - for want of a better word - space between dimensions where an almost infinite supply of different bodies rest in stasis for the time when they are to be "worn" by the summoner. I always imagined regenerations to be a bit like that, with the Time Lords having some kind of fail-safe installed to prevent over-regeneration. Something that would be overseen by, I dunno, semi-automated Gallifreyan equipment.

Mind you, the genetic thing would be a hell of a lot simpler.

I concede, you devil, you. But, debating a fictitious science, it's all rather academic until whoever's writing the show actually comes up with an explanation.

Still, s'what's the internet's for, I guess.

Mr. Thing

07-04-2006, 07:38 PM

Yep, it's official.

Freema Agyeman is the new companion! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/companion.shtml)

Mr. Thing

07-05-2006, 01:32 PM

Oh yeah, the Mirror reported today that the Series 3 villians might be the Ice Warriors.

If this is true, then I can't wait. They're my favourite monsters next to the Cybermen.

TheCorpulent1

07-05-2006, 03:44 PM

I kind of wish we could find out that the Master or the evil future Doctor somehow survived the Time War. The Doctor really needs someone who can match him on all levels to really challenge him. All we've seen so far are the Cybermen or Daleks on the verge of beating the Doctor through superior numbers. I'd like to see the Doctor have a one-on-one arch-nemesis again.

regwec

07-05-2006, 05:13 PM

Yep, it's official.

Freema Agyeman is the new companion! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/companion.shtml)
OK, I still haven't watched any 'Who since The Satan Pit, but my missus has recorded the first part of the finale for me, so don't ruin it.

Right, I just wanted to say that, if nothing else, the new companion is more gorgeous than the last. :up:

TheCorpulent1

07-05-2006, 05:16 PM

Easily. "Martha Jones" sounds like such a '70s name, though.

Mr. Thing

07-05-2006, 05:18 PM

OK, I still haven't watched any 'Who since The Satan Pit, but my missus has recorded the first part of the finale for me, so don't ruin it.

Right, I just wanted to say that, if nothing else, the new companion is more gorgeous than the last. :up:

Oh no, I'm a Billie man. That radio times cover of her makes me melt. :o

But I'll agree that Freema is beautiful. :up:

regwec

07-05-2006, 05:21 PM

Easily. "Martha Jones" sounds like such a '70s name, though.
Indeed. At the inevitable risk of being labelled a racist or heaven-knows-what, I must say that Freema looks far to exotic and interesting to be a "Martha".

Mr. Thing

07-05-2006, 05:25 PM

Indeed. At the inevitable risk of being labelled a racist or heaven-knows-what, I must say that Freema looks far to exotic and interesting to be a "Martha".

I agree. There's a lot of speculation on the OG boards that she might be the daughter of Harriet Jones.

TheCorpulent1

07-05-2006, 05:32 PM

That'd be pretty weird, given that the last Christmas special set Harriet up as a nice villainess for the Doctor in future seasons.

Mr. Thing

07-05-2006, 05:34 PM

That'd be pretty weird, given that the last Christmas special set Harriet up as a nice villainess for the Doctor in future seasons.

Yeah. Did you guys see who the rumoured Series 3 villians are?

TheCorpulent1

07-05-2006, 05:38 PM

I did. I'm not all that caught up on my classic Who yet, so I'm not sure who they are, though. I'm gonna look them up on Wikipedia now. Thanks for reminding me.

Edit: They seem pretty cool. I look forward to the redesigns the new team will come up with. :up:

Whirlysplat

07-05-2006, 07:10 PM

Yeah... but... you ever read Alan Moore's Miracleman? Well, in it there exists a kind of - for want of a better word - space between dimensions where an almost infinite supply of different bodies rest in stasis for the time when they are to be "worn" by the summoner. I always imagined regenerations to be a bit like that, with the Time Lords having some kind of fail-safe installed to prevent over-regeneration. Something that would be overseen by, I dunno, semi-automated Gallifreyan equipment.

Mind you, the genetic thing would be a hell of a lot simpler.

I concede, you devil, you. But, debating a fictitious science, it's all rather academic until whoever's writing the show actually comes up with an explanation.

Still, s'what's the internet's for, I guess.

Yeah, but underspace was a closet for the Qys, the timelords actually regenerate (growing a new body).

- Whirly

Whirlysplat

07-05-2006, 07:12 PM

Oh no, I'm a Billie man. That radio times cover of her makes me melt. :o

But I'll agree that Freema is beautiful. :up:

I think Billies is a Mcdonalds Moose. But thats just me.

- Whirly

Mr. Thing

07-05-2006, 07:42 PM

I think Billies is a Mcdonalds Moose. But thats just me.

- Whirly

Come on... (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/images/radiotimes_billie.jpg):o

But whatever.

Whirlysplat

07-05-2006, 07:47 PM

Come on... (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/images/radiotimes_billie.jpg):o

But whatever.

I admit she looks fit there. However I do wonder about any girl who married Chris Evans for a Ferrari.

http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/specials/agelesscouples/pagina_4_1.html

- Whirly

Mr. Thing

07-05-2006, 08:27 PM

I admit she looks fit there. However I do wonder about any girl who married Chris Evans for a Ferrari.

http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/specials/agelesscouples/pagina_4_1.html

- Whirly

Yeah. But she is hot. :o

wobbly

07-05-2006, 08:30 PM

The Amazing Lee

07-06-2006, 04:28 AM

Ginger people rule. Leave them alone :down:mad:

The Red Skull

07-06-2006, 05:14 AM

TheCorpulent1

07-06-2006, 12:05 PM

Yeah, the Valeyard. I blanked on his name. Seriously, he'd be a great villain to bring back. I'd prefer him to the Master, in fact.
Ginger people rule. Leave them alone :down:mad:
The Doctor would agree. :)

ROBOCOP CPU001

07-06-2006, 02:05 PM

I would like to see a reform of the Master at some point.

TankerX

07-06-2006, 03:55 PM

I would like to see a reform of the Master at some point.

Stuart Anthony Head would've been perfect as the master

ROBOCOP CPU001

07-06-2006, 03:57 PM

hmm..not a bad choice.

:up:

TheCorpulent1

07-06-2006, 04:19 PM

Yeah, wasn't it rumored that he was going to play the Master in the episode he appeared in? Turns out it was just some stupid power-stealing alien.

Also, it's "Anthony Stewart Head."

regwec

07-06-2006, 04:23 PM

It would be superb if he took "Gave" as a middle name.

The Englishman

07-06-2006, 05:38 PM

Stuart Anthony Head would've been perfect as the master

Yeah i feel that was a missed oppetunity....:(

Mister Sinister

07-06-2006, 06:13 PM

Set reports for the Christmas special appear to be emerging. Initial sightings say that there is a bride running. Supposedly it's going to be called the Runaway Bride

Whirlysplat

07-06-2006, 07:31 PM

Yeah i feel that was a missed oppetunity....:(

As do I.

It would be superb if he took "Gave" as a middle name.

:up: agreed.

- Whirly

The Amazing Lee

07-06-2006, 07:46 PM

Set reports for the Christmas special appear to be emerging. Initial sightings say that there is a bride running. Supposedly it's going to be called the Runaway Bride

How original :o

TheCorpulent1

07-06-2006, 07:46 PM

There's no such thing as originality anymore. :o

The Amazing Lee

07-06-2006, 07:47 PM

I was about to blow on my english pipe and look through my monacle.....oh and has anyone seen my top hat....

I am original to the max!

Whirlysplat

07-06-2006, 07:58 PM

There's no such thing as originality anymore. :o

Coca Cola?

- Whirly

TankerX

07-07-2006, 03:39 AM

Set reports for the Christmas special appear to be emerging. Initial sightings say that there is a bride running. Supposedly it's going to be called the Runaway Bride

Its also gonna take place on the thames barrier- i know this because i know someone who works there and they were there filming it

Captain Villa

07-07-2006, 12:07 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/images/bank/talent/drama/300tennant_agyeman.jpg

NEW ASSISTANT.

regwec

07-07-2006, 01:11 PM

We know. She has already been approved and mentally-undressed.

black_dust

07-07-2006, 01:21 PM

Better explain why she comes back from the dead

storyteller

07-07-2006, 01:34 PM

new character she is. she simply was guest tease in the finale.

ROBOCOP CPU001

07-07-2006, 03:01 PM

Who is to say she also crossed over from that other universe..man she is very hot.

:o

black_dust

07-07-2006, 04:50 PM

Who is to say she also crossed over from that other universe..man she is very hot.

:o
Yeah it is pretty warm, maybe she needs a cool drink?

Happenstance

07-08-2006, 02:55 PM

Pretty good last episode for series 2

I never did think Rose would die but thinking about it now I wish she did. It would have been interesting for the Doctor in series 3 to not want to get close to the new assistant and a bit darker with him feeling very guilty over Rose.

Lord Valumart

07-08-2006, 03:28 PM

balls to you RTD

i was looking forward to rose kicking the bucket....:(

appart from that i loved the ark puking out Daleks, and the black Dalek(anyone catch his name?)will be back, yey:D, Pete kicked some cyberass(just like my avvy says he would:D), the cybus brand cybermen are dead allowing the real proper ones to come back(woohoo!), er....iate popcorn during it....oh...and where the hell did the bride come from??:confused:

Sentry2005

07-08-2006, 03:35 PM

meh... no where near as good as last seasons ending IMO. I didn't like the Darleks coming back so short a time after they supposedly killed them all last season. While it's cool to have that Darlek come back at some point (Darlek Wolf Bay... was that the places name... thats awesome), I really hope its not next season. I want Tennant to fight the Master next season :)

And as for the bride... The Doctors reaction = priceless, the Bride herself = ewwwww... Catherine Tate :down :(

Lord Valumart

07-08-2006, 03:40 PM

And as for the bride... The Doctors reaction = priceless, the Bride herself = ewwwww... Catherine Tate :down :(
i have thing about Catherine Tate:(

SpideyLad

07-08-2006, 04:14 PM

Well, that was rather good. The whole "Rose dying" was....bleh.

Waiting for the Christmas Special now....

*twidles thumbs*

Sentry2005

07-08-2006, 04:33 PM

i have thing about Catherine Tate:(

really? I guess I could see it... I always think of that 'Bothered' sketch whemever I see her, and imeadiately I turn foetal and pray for death... maybe I just overract a lil :)

Lord Valumart

07-08-2006, 04:39 PM

really? I guess I could see it... I always think of that 'Bothered' sketch whemever I see her, and imeadiately I turn foetal and pray for death... maybe I just overract a lil :)
you over react...she always looks to be a nice person when sh's boing interviewed and the likes....

anyhow...hopefuly your hate of her won't put you off the x-mas ep;)

Sentry2005

07-08-2006, 04:41 PM

hell no :D it's Doctor Who... nothing will stop me watching, even if its aweful (not saying it will be). I think Tate will do a good job the more I think about it.

Lady Stormcrow

07-08-2006, 05:12 PM

nooooo catherine tate! I dont like her...
Other than that, fabulous episode. The ending was very very heartbreaking. It was another marvellous script from RTD.

Speedball

07-08-2006, 05:52 PM

please no spoilers!
I don't wanna learn about what happens to Rose.:(
When does the second season come out in the U.S.?

black_dust

07-08-2006, 07:03 PM

Well thats another series over and done with, i dont think it was anywhere near as good as the first series, but i do like David as the Dr. we have been to earth around about 9 times! and most of them were in LONDON! so i hope he gets off earth somemore in the next one.

As for this one, i thought it was ok until the soppy crap at the end of it and the total lie at the start this is how i died I liked the bit with the Cybermen war but they shoud have shown more of it, and at last those dam 3D glasses were explained i wondered what the hell was going on with him! oh and one question

Why was the Tardis not sucked into the void...

livrule

07-08-2006, 07:51 PM

Great episode.

The Daleks always ensure quality.

All in all a solid series .... Highpoints : Girl in fireplace, Tooth and Claw, Satan pit, School reunion, Doomsday.

Not so good : Love and monsters, Fear her, the 'new' Cybermen ....

As for the future .... I think the writers need to realise that the best shows always involve 'classic' villains .... unless they can create some quality new ones they will need to continue to blend each series with some faces from the past.

Its safe to say we have seen the last of the Daleks for a while so bring on the Master!

Mister Sinister

07-08-2006, 08:07 PM

Heart breaking, inspiring, groundbreaking...Am I bovvered though?

Lord Valumart

07-08-2006, 08:15 PM

All in all a solid series .... Highpoints : Girl in fireplace, Tooth and Claw, Satan pit, School reunion, Doomsday.

Not so good : Love and monsters, Fear her, the 'new' Cybermen ....
i'll never understand why people love girl in the fireplace and dislike love and monsters, they basicly did the samething by changing the format around abit, the girl in the fireplace was the one major rock bottom low of the series, where as love and monsters was one of the highs, if not THE high

anyhow...next series they need to get Ben Afflek in as the master and Matt Damon as a Silurian:up:

Whirlysplat

07-08-2006, 09:11 PM

I enjoyed most of this weeks episode. Apart from the characterisation, it was a fanboys dream. The Tardis did a very cool thing at the end. Timelord tech is godlike. It was Phoenix in Uncanny Xmen 134 - 137 level. The Doctor should be the lonely god small "g" not Jarvis Cocker meets a geography teacher from the Travis video for "Driftwood".

I also "hate" small "h" Tate. :(

:)

- Whirly

livrule

07-08-2006, 09:16 PM

i'll never understand why people love girl in the fireplace and dislike love and monsters, they basicly did the samething by changing the format around abit, the girl in the fireplace was the one major rock bottom low of the series, where as love and monsters was one of the highs, if not THE high

anyhow...next series they need to get Ben Afflek in as the master and Matt Damon as a Silurian:up:

Should I assume you are joking??

If not please educate me .... How is 'Girl in the fireplace' similar to 'Love and Monsters' ?

TheCorpulent1

07-09-2006, 01:35 AM

They both feature normal people whose lives get intertwined with the Doctor's in some way. The difference is that "The Girl in the Fireplace" is from the Doctor's point of view while "Love and Monsters" is from the hapless normal person's point of view. I liked both, myself, but I thought "The Girl in the Fireplace" was the best episode of the season.

The season finale was great, I thought. The characterization, as others noted, puzzled me a bit. I admit I'm not as familiar with the Doctor as most of you, having just started watching the series (mostly new, but I've seen a few episodes from the old, as well), but I don't really understand what made Rose so special. The Doctor's had many, many companions, and the impression I get from him is that, while he admires human emotions, he tries to remain aloof and enigmatic himself. So what about Rose was so special that the Doctor almost says he loves her? :confused: Anyway, other than that it was good. The actual plot was great. Who knew alien trash cans with plungers could be so awesome? ;) One thing I'm left wondering is whether, now that the Torchwood established in the Christmas special is defunct, the Torchwood series is going to feature a new, friendlier Torchwood that's not as sinister and capitalistic as the old one was.

wobbly

07-09-2006, 06:37 AM

I admit I'm not as familiar with the Doctor as most of you, having just started watching the series (mostly new, but I've seen a few episodes from the old, as well), but I don't really understand what made Rose so special. The Doctor's had many, many companions, and the impression I get from him is that, while he admires human emotions, he tries to remain aloof and enigmatic himself. So what about Rose was so special that the Doctor almost says he loves her? :confused:

Well ...you can know lot's of people but only ever fall in love with one.

But if it does require an explanation maybe it's that there wasn't anything special about her that made the Doctor feel so much for her: She's not an alien, not an agent for Unit or from any kind of glamorous/exotic background, no special abilities etc. Just a courageous working class girl thrown into extra-ordinary circumstances and holding her own (Ok, McCoy had 'Ace' who that could be said of, but that would have been icky).

TheCorpulent1

07-09-2006, 11:02 AM

The Red Skull

07-09-2006, 02:15 PM

That's a bit sappy for the Doctor, I think. I don't understand why platonic companions aren't good enough anymore. The TV-movie had the Doctor actually making out with the chick who helped him, and now he's in love with Rose, with sexual tension abounding throughout the series.

It's the inevitable result of fleshing out the companions beyond the stereotype of a young woman pointing at something in the distance and saying "Doctor, look! Those aliens that look like overgrown pepper pots are coming over! I thing they want to be friends!"

It started with Ace being treated as a student of the Doctor's and being subject to a great deal more screen-time than companions were usually entitled to. I don't find it to be a particularly bad thing. If anything, I found the Rose relationship to have been treated with enough care to have warranted the last episode's ending.

Plus, if you subscribe to certain theories surrounding regeneration then it could be believed that the Ninth Doctor subconsciously chose or wished to regenerate into a more 'human' incarnation in order to better begin a proper romance with Rose Tyler. From that angle, I think the tears are appropriate.

Lord Valumart

07-09-2006, 02:23 PM

Plus, if you subscribe to certain theories surrounding regeneration then it could be believed that the Ninth Doctor subconsciously chose or wished to regenerate into a more 'human' incarnation in order to better begin a proper romance with Rose Tyler. From that angle, I think the tears are appropriate.
i wish to call bull on this. the only reason he care's so much for rose is cause she brought him back from the downward spiral that would have ended up with his final death quite soon. he was suicidal when he met rose, she made him snap out of it and helped him see life was worth living

i hope to god there's no romance with the new companion:(

The Red Skull

07-09-2006, 02:33 PM

i wish to call bull on this. the only reason he care's so much for rose is cause she brought him back from the downward spiral that would have ended up with his final death quite soon. he was suicidal when he met rose, she made him snap out of it and helped him see life was worth living

I don't doubt that. Nor did I say anything that contradicted that.

I was, however, suggesting that Rose had made such an impact on the Ninth Doctor's life that his new (tenth) self reflected an almost infinitely better disposition towards humans. Ecclestone's Doctor considered them "stupid apes"; Tennant can't stop bloody hugging them. Maybe as he regenerated he wished for an incarnation that would allow him to better express himself to her. I'm not entirely sure that the Ninth Doctor could ever confess to loving Rose, though it was plainly obvious that he did.

The above is just to reconcile what another poster considered 'soppy' with previous Doctors.

And, as a romance between the Doctor and his companion has taken up all of two seasons, I highly doubt that Davies would consider such a relationship with the new girl. It started having that 'played-out' feeling five episodes ago.

The Englishman

07-09-2006, 03:39 PM

I don't doubt that. Nor did I say anything that contradicted that.

I was, however, suggesting that Rose had made such an impact on the Ninth Doctor's life that his new (tenth) self reflected an almost infinitely better disposition towards humans. Ecclestone's Doctor considered them "stupid apes"; Tennant can't stop bloody hugging them. Maybe as he regenerated he wished for an incarnation that would allow him to better express himself to her. I'm not entirely sure that the Ninth Doctor could ever confess to loving Rose, though it was plainly obvious that he did.

The above is just to reconcile what another poster considered 'soppy' with previous Doctors.

And, as a romance between the Doctor and his companion has taken up all of two seasons, I highly doubt that Davies would consider such a relationship with the new girl. It started having that 'played-out' feeling five episodes ago.

I agree with both of you.

Mister Sinister

07-09-2006, 03:57 PM

I'm appalled at the attitudes of some of the people on OG, totally dismissing the Christmas special based on this one casting announcement.

TheCorpulent1

07-09-2006, 04:21 PM

Lord Valumart

07-09-2006, 04:27 PM

I hadn't thought of that, actually. That does make more sense, and it creates a scenario where I could believe the Doctor might feel some special attachment to Rose. She does seem to be his first post-Time War companion, and Eccleston's Doctor was pretty gruff and dismissive of forming connections with anyone at first. Good call. :up:
i didn;t come up with it, someone posted it on OG and it all just snapped together brilliantly(first time i'm not taking credit for someone elses work)

Bastila

07-09-2006, 04:34 PM

I liked it, but i don't think this season was as good as the last one and the final, but the ending i was waiting for her to say Am i borthered lol.

Mister Sinister

07-10-2006, 08:37 AM

She won't be saying am I bovvered though, because that's a totally different character.

Bat Brain

07-10-2006, 01:51 PM

Help!!!! Missed the finale, anyone know where i can 'obtain' it? Thanks :)

Dope Nose

07-10-2006, 02:10 PM

here's the last 14 minutes or so. get it before the BBC does.

Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZbPOG8apMo)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlw-lT-DWY)

Dope Nose

07-10-2006, 02:28 PM

Army of Ghosts pt 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny_HFeMsvbY)
Army of Ghosts pt 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJGWOfm3TvE)
Army of Ghosts pt 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39JtSGpev60)
Army of Ghosts pt 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp5x4SbyuFA)
Army of Ghosts pt 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2wvnm3gIVI)

Doomsday pt 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5rG0n66Hvs)
Doomsday pt 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3wsVtZrylQ)
Doomsday pt 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mts9jEy1aUo)
Doomsday pt 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2jAwKzfD0A)
Doomsday pt 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjRLxU1__A8)

Bat Brain

07-10-2006, 06:10 PM

Thank You!!!!!!!

eXperiment

07-12-2006, 02:06 AM

I cried my eyes out, sorry, I'm a little to emotional....lol, great episode, got a new avy!!!!

Whirlysplat

07-12-2006, 02:34 PM

She won't be saying am I bovvered though, because that's a totally different character.

What?!!! Really? You mean "actors" are not real people. Wow thanks you've helped me out here, I'll have to stop writing to the Krankies now. I mean really? They're not? Really?

- Whirly

TheCorpulent1

07-12-2006, 03:59 PM

Um, no. Actors are automatons built by the government to keep the masses sedated through entertainment. Duh. :rolleyes:

Whirlysplat

07-12-2006, 07:29 PM

Um, no. Actors are automatons built by the government to keep the masses sedated through entertainment. Duh. :rolleyes:

The lengths political systems will go to in achieving social control. That's amazing and...and I would never have suspected a thing if it wasn't for you C1. Thanks..... I mean it man. (Notice the attempted Bendis speak in this post). Damn actors really are the opium of the masses. My mind wanders to Team America at this point.

- Whirly

grey_jeanie

07-15-2006, 06:11 AM

I DON'T WANT ANOTHER ASSISTANT (said in true Nikki, UK BB, style)

Flame on!

07-15-2006, 02:12 PM

new character she is.
Who are you, Yoda?

TheCorpulent1

07-15-2006, 04:03 PM

And he is, what if? :mad:

Whirlysplat

07-15-2006, 05:25 PM

Who are you, Yoda?

And why can't three foot high pseudo reptillian aliens post on this forum if they wish?

- Whirly

TheCorpulent1

07-15-2006, 05:59 PM

Because they can't reach their keyboards? :confused:

Whirlysplat

07-15-2006, 08:20 PM

Because they can't reach their keyboards? :confused:

With "The Force" they have no need to reach anything. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igs99GGSAUo&search=Yoda%20%20

- Whirly

TheCorpulent1

07-15-2006, 09:02 PM

Hahaha, that almost makes me wish I still watched MTV. :D

lars573

07-15-2006, 10:27 PM

This sucks! The CBC won't be showing season 2 until Thanksgiving. Argh!:down

The Englishman

07-29-2006, 06:20 AM

Damm!!!

Superman

07-29-2006, 06:29 AM

So does anyone know when the Sci-Fi channel is starting the new season of Doctor Who?

Mister Sinister

08-03-2006, 04:10 AM

Word on the street is...Zoe Lucker as the Rani (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006350567,00.html). It's also been reported elsewhere.

Bastila

08-03-2006, 01:59 PM

I saw that in the paper, i never saw the villian she is going to play, i need to watch some more old Doctor who episodes.

GhostPoet

08-03-2006, 02:55 PM

Are you guys talking the new NEW Doctor Who? Or the season on sci-fi? I don't want to spoil anything if many are not on the next series yet. I buy them from the UK....

TheCorpulent1

08-03-2006, 06:05 PM

We've been talking about the most recent series for as long as I've been coming to this thread.

The Batman

08-07-2006, 02:49 PM

My god...i just tried to read up on the entire history on Dr. Who...

Holy ****, my brain hurts...

Lord Valumart

08-07-2006, 02:53 PM

you should never try that....it's like trying to make a dalek time line....impossible....or very hard....not really sure which....

TheCorpulent1

08-07-2006, 04:45 PM

Yeah, I've learned about Dr. Who very slowly over the past couple of years, in small doses. My very much intact and still-functioning brain thanks me for that.

Whirlysplat

08-07-2006, 08:47 PM

Yeah, I've learned about Dr. Who very slowly over the past couple of years, in small doses. My very much intact and still-functioning brain thanks me for that.

And then you have things like the Also People which are Iain Banks culture rip offs in the extended universe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_New_Adventures

- Whirly

The Batman

08-08-2006, 06:21 PM

Yeah, I've learned about Dr. Who very slowly over the past couple of years, in small doses. My very much intact and still-functioning brain thanks me for that.

Man....i read up on the ten doctors and all this other complex stuff...when all i really need to know thusfar is that the fourth doctor is considered the definitive one(Also the doctor i saw on i love the 70's part two), and about the current guy.

When do reruns of this show air in the states? I'm interested in the episode with some being whos obsessed with ELO music

lars573

08-08-2006, 06:34 PM

PBS has the US TV rights to the older shows. But the individual affiliates decide when or if they go on. IIRC only 2 PBS stations are showing old Dr. Who reruns right now. Also the 4th Doctor is the definitive one because it's the oldest comeplete run. The BBC destroyed large chunks of the 1st-3rd Doctors adventures.