Ratings

[triplet]

Okay, I don't get it...

:confused:

[Migu-EL]

LOL I missed that..... Christ on a bike!

http://www.new-testament.co.uk/gal/Me,_Myself_and_I/JESUS_JOKES/christonabike.jpg

LOL...the water bottle and purple sandals give it a nice touch.:oldrazz:

[Serene]

So... someone explain to the addle-brained old lady. What are the final numbers? It looks like it was still in the \O/ range. :D

[heliorei]

Prime-Time Ratings:
Thursday 11/06/08

-Total Viewers:
CBS: 13.75 million, ABC: 11.16, NBC: 7.64, Fox: 4.55, CW: 4.27

-Adults 18-49:
CBS: 4.0 rating/10 share, ABC: 3.9/10, NBC: 3.3/ 8, Fox: 2.1/ 5, CW: 1.8/ 4

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Second at 8 p.m. was ABC’s Ugly Betty at 8.95 million viewers and a 2.7/ 7 among adults 18-49 (and also down considerably from the year-ago night’s 10.83 million viewers and a 3.5/ 9 in the demo). Rounding off the hour were weak NBC sitcoms My Name is Earl (Viewers: #3, 6.62 million; A18-49: #2, 2.6/ 7) and the abysmal Kath & Kim (Viewers: #3, 5.57 million; A18-49: #3, 2.4/ 6), which should never have been picked-up for the full season, the CW’s Smallville (Viewers: #4, 4.81 million; A18-49: #4t, 2.0/ 5), and a repeat of Kitchen Nightmares on Fox (Viewers: #4, 4.41 million; A18-49: #4t, 2.1/ 5). Needless to say, My Name is Earl should no longer be anchoring the night.


Rounding off the 9 p.m. hour was an original installment of Fox’s Kitchen Nightmares (Viewers: #4, 4.69 million; A18-49: #4, 2.2/ 5) and Supernatural on the CW (Viewers: #5, 3.73 million; A18-49: #5, 1.6/ 4).



Source: Nielsen Media Research data

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/762100271


Here it is: word of mouth. Period!

Everyone is saying season 8 is one of the best seasons Smallville ever had and some are already saying this is the best season yet. Old viewers who had lost touch with the show are back.

I haven't seen Bloodline yet but according to several it's the best episode yet of season 8.

Kudos to all Smallville crew: Congrats!

Good numbers for Supernatural as well.

[AgentPat]

How many viewers can it really lose from Denver? It's at 4.8 now. The season premier was 4.34. It's not losing 500k from one market.

So my logic still stands :)I wasn't saying SV would have a crazy drop. My point was that it would drop due to the Denver preemption. To wit...

Finals:

Smallville
- 4.459 million viewers
- 2.7/4 HH
- 1.9/5 A18-49
- 1.9/6 A18-34

Supernatural
- 3.244 million viewers
- 2.1/3 HH
- 1.4/3 A18-49
- 1.3/3 A18-34


Normally, the numbers rise when Live + SD numbers come in. That said, last night's ratings beat the S8 premiere, which is extraordinary!


Running tally:

09/18/08 - 4,344,000 #1
09/25/08 - 4,181,000 #2
10/02/08 - 4,051,000 #1
10/09/08 - 4,119,000 #1
10/16/08 - 4,183,000 #1
10/23/08 - 4,155,000 #2
10/30/08 - 4,323,000 #1
11/06/08 - 4,459,000 (Rank TBD)

[LexFactor]

Season high ratings. This season continues to impress.

[KBX]

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Ratings-Smallville-Supernatural-35439.aspx

Ratings: Smallville Looking Super


Thursday's ratings recap:
8 pm/ET
Survivor: Gabon dropped nearly a million total viewers week-to-week, topping the hour with 12.18 mil. Ugly Betty placed second with 8.95 mil, up 400 thou. In third, both NBC's Earl (6.62 mil, +450K) and Kath & Kim (5.57 mil, +110K) saw increases.
Smallville hit a season high of 4.5 mil, its biggest audience since Nov. 15, 2007.
9 pm
Grey's Anatomy dominated the demos, but at 15.63 million viewers (up 580K) again fell shy of unseating CSI (18.1 mil, down 540 thou) as the hour's most-watched program. With NBC's The Office dropping 10 percent to match its season low (8.35 mil), 30 Rock (eight mil) in turn dipped 530K from its week-ago series high.
With the Denver affiliates factored out, Supernatural actually dipped 330K, to 3.2 mil.
10 pm
Eleventh Hour continued its run at No. 1 with 10.97 million viewers, sliding 500K. Life on Mars stole second with 8.9 mil (up 520 thou), to ER's 8.64 mil.

[Prison Mike]

what episode was on Nov 15, 2007? I can't remember.

[LexFactor]

what episode was on Nov 15, 2007? I can't remember.

Blue

[Prison Mike]

Blue

oh yeah, the one where the movie Supergirl guest starred. I remember being disappointed...

[Serene]

I looooove that the show is making waves enough to get noticed, despite the complete lack of publicity this season.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/11/ratings-cbs-win.html

:up:

[Brainiac 8]

Nice.

Kudos to PS3 for giving the audience a fantastic Superman show. :up:

[Webhead2006]

YEa i am so glad ratings have been doing very well for the show this yr and getting a bit higher each episode. Here's hoping episode 10, 11 will get around to like 5million viewers.

[LexFactor]

4.38 million in the overnight ratings

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/478106371

But it sounds like they're likely to drop in the final ratings.

[The Incredible Hulk]

4.38 million in the overnight ratings

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/478106371

But it sounds like they're likely to drop in the final ratings.

odd that Berman refers to the show as "fading" a week after talking about how well it was doing and even besting the previous season. I'm sure those numbers will go down into the 4.2 range once they drop the NFL numbers in NY.

Although I wonder if they'll add back the numbers from when it airs in NY on Saturday back in to the Finals?

[LexFactor]

I think he's said that fading comment almost every week.

[Prison Mike]

I think the lower numbers has to do with the promo they put out. It was mostly Chloe-centric and maybe people skipped out on that one. I hope they tune in next week though because it looks awesome!

[LexFactor]

I think the lower numbers has to do with the promo they put out. It was mostly Chloe-centric and maybe people skipped out on that one. I hope they tune in next week though because it looks awesome!

Yeah pretty much agree. I'd be surprised if the ratings don't go up next week.

[Prison Mike]

Yeah pretty much agree. I'd be surprised if the ratings don't go up next week.

it was the same thing with Toxic when they just showed Oliver scenes in the promo. PS3 have done a great job with this show but CW needs to do better marketing. They need to keep things Clark-centric when they show promos, IMO.

[LexFactor]

it was the same thing with Toxic when they just showed Oliver scenes in the promo. PS3 have done a great job with this show but CW needs to do better marketing. They need to keep things Clark-centric when they show promos, IMO.

Agree again. Although I think a little bit of Lois helps too.

[Prison Mike]

Agree again. Although I think a little bit of Lois helps too.

yeah maybe if they show some clois in the promos, it will get butts in front of the tv. lol

[triplet]

it was the same thing with Toxic when they just showed Oliver scenes in the promo. PS3 have done a great job with this show but CW needs to do better marketing. They need to keep things Clark-centric when they show promos, IMO.

QTF, PrisonM!

:up:

[LexFactor]

These are supposedly the finals

Smallville
- 3.556 million viewers
- 2.1/3 HH
- 1.4/4 A18-49
- 1.4/4 A18-34

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/478106371/p/9

Assuming those are correct, I'm a little surprised. I expected a big drop, but not that big.

[Spirited Away]

3.556 million viewers is great, especially considering the episode was pre-empted in many parts of the East Coast!

[Webhead2006]

ouch i hope it isnt 3.5 hopefully it is over 4million. But the episode wasnt in a few markets so that is a factor.

[Prison Mike]

wow, that's a big drop. chloe killed the ratings. lol

[The Incredible Hulk]

These are supposedly the finals

Smallville
- 3.556 million viewers
- 2.1/3 HH
- 1.4/4 A18-49
- 1.4/4 A18-34

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/478106371/p/9

Assuming those are correct, I'm a little surprised. I expected a big drop, but not that big.


not terribly surprising considering the episode was pre-empted in the biggest media market in the United States by the NFL game. You saw how much it fell after they took the numbers out from Denver last week, now consider that the NYC market is almost 6 times that of Denver.

[Prison Mike]

I read that they'll reair the episode in that area tomorrow at 6pm

[Webhead2006]

ksite is reporting the ratings was the 4.38million and not the 3.5million one.

[Spirited Away]

Yeah, it was 4.38 million. That's truly amazing, because it wasn't broadcast in New York and other areas of the East Coast. They'll just factor in those ratings once the episode's aired, although in PA, the episode isn't airing until Friday 28th Nov!

[LexFactor]

ksite is reporting the ratings was the 4.38million and not the 3.5million one.

Ksite only posts the over night ratings, not the finals. Abyss got 3.5 million not the 4.3 million.

[Prison Mike]

Yeah, it was 4.38 million. That's truly amazing, because it wasn't broadcast in New York and other areas of the East Coast. They'll just factor in those ratings once the episode's aired, although in PA, the episode isn't airing until Friday 28th Nov!

really? That sucks. I live in PA! :csad:

[Webhead2006]

well hopefully they count the markets in that didnt see it thursday into toal finale talley.

[Spirited Away]

well hopefully they count the markets in that didnt see it thursday into toal finale talley.
Eventually, once the episode airs everywhere, Nielsen will do a final tally for the episode specifically.

But the "finals" we'll get next week won't include them, because the re-broadcasts are being done all over the place, some out of primetime.

I wouldn't worry though, The CW will count it all up and publicly release the figure, because it's going to be around 5 million easily!

[LexFactor]

The overnight ratings:

And the CW capped off the evening with aging Smallville (Viewers: #4, 4.77 million; A18-49: #5, 1.9/ 5) and companion Supernatural (Viewers: #5, 4.03 million; A18-49: #5, 1.6/ 4).

Although the future of Smallville beyond this season is a question mark, there is every reason to believe Supernatural will be back.

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/184108471

[The Incredible Hulk]

The overnight ratings:

And the CW capped off the evening with aging Smallville (Viewers: #4, 4.77 million; A18-49: #5, 1.9/ 5) and companion Supernatural (Viewers: #5, 4.03 million; A18-49: #5, 1.6/ 4).

Although the future of Smallville beyond this season is a question mark, there is every reason to believe Supernatural will be back.

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/184108471

I dont get what Berman is smoking? Those are HUGE ratings for both shows; they're best all season, and those are the fast ratings that will likely go up even more once the finals are in considering there was no NFL games airing on the CW in any major markets which would skew the fast ratings like the past two weeks.

[LexFactor]

Consider as well that episode 10 of season 7, Persona, only managed 3.81 million in the finals.

[Cmill216]

Consider as well that episode 10 of season 7, Persona, only managed 3.81 million in the finals.

"Persona" aired after the winter break. The better comparison is to "Gemini".

[LexFactor]

"Persona" aired after the winter break. The better comparison is to "Gemini".

Fair enough, Gemini, 3.71 million.

Actually, on that note, I was thinking about Legion. Don't you think the same thing will happen for that ep after the long break?

[Prison Mike]

The CW will need to pimp "Legion" out like anything if they really want high ratings for that episode. It's usually the episode coming back from a long hiatus that doesn't do so well (unless they come out with so many promos that they hit you over head with them).

[Serene]

I dont get what Berman is smoking? Those are HUGE ratings for both shows; they're best all season, and those are the fast ratings that will likely go up even more once the finals are in considering there was no NFL games airing on the CW in any major markets which would skew the fast ratings like the past two weeks.

I don't think he was referring to the ratings for last night specifically, just an overall observation about how SV has been around for a long time and its return is still up in the air.

And WOOT for big ratings! Go, SV! :up:

[LexFactor]

The ratings will likely drop again because I think an NFL game was shown in the Pittsburgh market. Not sure how drastic it will be though.

[p4poetic]

Blue

I think it was Cure.

Yeah, it was 4.38 million. That's truly amazing, because it wasn't broadcast in New York and other areas of the East Coast. They'll just factor in those ratings once the episode's aired, although in PA, the episode isn't airing until Friday 28th Nov!

No wonder I missed it!! I thought I was going crazy.

[LexFactor]

I think it was Cure.



No wonder I missed it!! I thought I was going crazy.

Cure was on 18th October.

[Webhead2006]

nice to hear bride's ratings were up again. Hopefully the finale tally will be same.

[Serene]

Look at the half-hour breakdowns.

SV almost cracked 5 mil. :eek:

Smallville
8:00 p.m. V: 4.56 m, A18-49: 1.8/ 5
8:30 p.m. V: 4.99 m, A18-49: 2.1/ 5

(I know these aren't final numbers, right? So, when do those come out?)

[KBX]

Ratings that are in the 2nd part of the episode tells you how good the episode really is!

So is unrealistic to think that Smallville will get 5 mil anytime this season?

[Webhead2006]

well smallville did get a few 5million viewers episodes last season right but it was from the DVR +7 count wasnt it?

[LexFactor]

Last season both Bizarro and Cure got 5.18 million. And that was before the DVR +7 thingy.

[Webhead2006]

ah i knew there was a few that got 5million with or without the dvr +7 thing.

[The Incredible Hulk]

The ratings will likely drop again because I think an NFL game was shown in the Pittsburgh market. Not sure how drastic it will be though.


shouldnt be major at all. Pittsburgh is a rather small media market, down around 25th or so. Probably just over 1 million households or so.

No final nationals for Thursday until Monday. Nielsen delayed them for some reason.

[heliorei]

According to K-Site:


"Bride" Ratings!
Smallville's wedding extravaganza didn't pull 5 million viewers but still brought the show some of its best ratings all season. Hopefully most of these viewers will still be around on January 15 when the series returns with new episodes.

Here's the overnight-ratings breakdown (Source: Mediaweek):
Rank Show Network Rating
(in millions of viewers) Last Week
#1 Survivor: Gabon CBS 12.62
#2 Ugly Betty ABC 8.29 9.20 (#2)
#3 My Name Is Earl (8:00-8:30) NBC 6.75
#4 Kath & Kim (8:30-9:00) NBC 5.47
#5 Smallville The CW 4.77
#6 Kitchen Nightmares FOX 4.46


Best rating of the entire season: 4.77 million.


:applaud

[Webhead2006]

well this was known the other day it is just the nightly ratings and not the official final count. though i do hope the final count tally is around the same.

[LexFactor]

heliorei, like Webhead said those numbers are just the overnights. We'll find out the final numbers sometime on Monday. They probably will go down slightly.

[Spirited Away]

well this was known the other day it is just the nightly ratings and not the official final count. though i do hope the final count tally is around the same.
It won't be, because Bride's not airing until tonight or next Thursday in half the East Coast. The overnights wrongly include the ratings of whatever those CW stations were showing on Thursday 8pm (NFL).

So the finals, which filter the NFL ratings out, will probably be around 3.7 million, but the finals WON'T include the extra 1+ million viewers who watched it first-run on another day, or have yet to see the episode.

[Webhead2006]

hopefully the final count isnt that low.

[p4poetic]

According to K-Site:


"Bride" Ratings!
Smallville's wedding extravaganza didn't pull 5 million viewers but still brought the show some of its best ratings all season. Hopefully most of these viewers will still be around on January 15 when the series returns with new episodes.

Here's the overnight-ratings breakdown (Source: Mediaweek):
Rank Show Network Rating
(in millions of viewers) Last Week
#1 Survivor: Gabon CBS 12.62
#2 Ugly Betty ABC 8.29 9.20 (#2)
#3 My Name Is Earl (8:00-8:30) NBC 6.75
#4 Kath & Kim (8:30-9:00) NBC 5.47
#5 Smallville The CW 4.77
#6 Kitchen Nightmares FOX 4.46


Best rating of the entire season: 4.77 million.


:applaud

People still watch Survivor? Hell I didn't know it was still on.

[Spirited Away]

hopefully the final count isnt that low.
Last week's was 3.66 million. It will be that "low", although it's not really low at all, is it now?

[Webhead2006]

yea i get you, though i like the nightly ratings number better.

[LexFactor]

I don't think it will go that low. I think the loss will be more comparable to Bloodline than Abyss. Didn't Bloodline lose the Denver market and went down around 400,000 in the finals. I think the finals for Bride will still be over 4 million.

[sdc10]

Ratings i dont think are that important because you have to consider how well the season sets sell, i mean i for one dont watch the show week to week yet i one every season on dvd.

[Webhead2006]

Well ratings are important it shows the networks and execs that show is bankable and to keep shows going or to can them.

[The Incredible Hulk]

It won't be, because Bride's not airing until tonight or next Thursday in half the East Coast. The overnights wrongly include the ratings of whatever those CW stations were showing on Thursday 8pm (NFL).

So the finals, which filter the NFL ratings out, will probably be around 3.7 million, but the finals WON'T include the extra 1+ million viewers who watched it first-run on another day, or have yet to see the episode.

:confused:

You're confusing last week with this week. This week Pittsburgh played Cincinnati on Thursday Night NFL (neither of which are even on the East Coast BTW) The only market of those where NFL pre-empted Smallville on a CW station was Pittsburgh, (everywhere else it was only on NFL Network) which as I explained above isn't a very big media market. Last week's numbers took a hit because it was pre-empted in New York and Boston, the biggest and 8th biggest markets in the country, respectively. Come Monday you wont see anywhere close the drop you saw last week. I predict between 4.4 and 4.5

[Ratcrawler]

Wow, Kath & Kim got higher ratings? Molly Shannon's nose looks like a little butt.

[Spirited Away]

:confused:

You're confusing last week with this week. This week Pittsburgh played Cincinnati on Thursday Night NFL (neither of which are even on the East Coast BTW) The only market of those where NFL pre-empted Smallville on a CW station was Pittsburgh, (everywhere else it was only on NFL Network) which as I explained above isn't a very big media market. Last week's numbers took a hit because it was pre-empted in New York and Boston, the biggest and 8th biggest markets in the country, respectively. Come Monday you wont see anywhere close the drop you saw last week. I predict between 4.4 and 4.5
That's good news then. Sorry, I'm a Briton, should really leave the really American stuff to you guys, lol!

[LexFactor]

The final rating for Bride was 4.185 million.

[mellyM]

The final rating for Bride was 4.185 million.

I didn't think the Live +7 ratings were in yet

[LexFactor]

I didn't think the Live +7 ratings were in yet

The live + 7 thing is something different. You get the overnights, then the final ratings (number of people who watched it live) then I think it's about two weeks later you get the live +7 numbers.

[Webhead2006]

nice to see it stayed over 4million.

[LexFactor]

nice to see it stayed over 4million.

Yeah the ratings have been very consistent this season. Hopefully that continues. The ratings in the second half of season 7 dropped dramatically. I think the final nine episodes were all under 4 million.

[RakuMon]

Prime-Time Ratings:
Thursday 1/15/09

-Total Viewers:
CBS: 17.44 million, ABC: 9.10, NBC: 7.01, Fox: 4.20, CW: 3.62

-Adults 18-49:
CBS: 4.5 rating/11 share, ABC: 3.5/ 9, NBC: 3.0/ 7, Fox: 1.8/ 4, CW: 1.5/ 4

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
CSI (CBS)

-Yesterday’s Losers (excluding repeats):
Kitchen Nightmares (Fox)

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-Ratings Breakdown:
Of immediate note: Results last night are all estimated due to the approximate 15-minute Presidential address at 8 p.m. With that in mind, CBS stood well above the competition, beating second-place ABC by a considerable 8.34 million viewers and 29 percent among adults 18-49. Third overall was NBC, followed by Fox and the CW. Needless to say, Fox did not air American Idol last night.

Since I do not have the 15-minute breakdowns handy, here is how the Big 4 networks performed in the 8 p.m. half-hour with the Presidential Address:

Thursday 8-8:30 p.m.
CBS - Presidential Address/CSI (R)
Viewers: 11.56 million (#1), A18-49: 2.6/ 7 (#1)

NBC – Presidential Address/My Name is Earl (R)
Viewers: 7.18 million (#2), A18-49: 2.4/ 7 (#2)

ABC – Presidential Address Address/Scrubs (R)
Viewers: 6.63 million (#3), A18-49: 1.9/ 5 (#3)

Fox – Presidential Address/Kitchen Nightmares (R)
Viewers: 4.60 million (#4), A18-49: 1.7/ 5 (#5)

The 8:30 p.m. half-hour featured CBS’ CSI encore (Viewers: #1, 15.78 million; A18-49: #1, 3.7/10), another repeat of NBC’s My Name is Earl (Viewers: #2, 5.99 million; A18-49: #2, 2.4/ 6), another repeat of ABC’s Scrubs (Viewers: #3, 4.77 million; A18-49: #3, 1.8/ 5), and the remaining 30-minutes of the Kitchen Nightmares encore on Fox (Viewers: #5, 3.66 million; A18-49: #5, 1.5/ 4).

Opposite the Presidential Address, the CW’s veteran Smallville rose to 4.27 million viewers (#4) and a 1.8/ 5 among adults 18-49 (#3t) from 8-9 p.m. -- its best performance this season.

The departure of William Petersen lifted CBS’ veteran CSI to an above average (and very dominant) 23.13 million viewers and a 6.2/14 among adults 18-49 from 9:15-10:15 p.m. But keep in mind that these results are approximate due to CBS’ delayed start. Comparably, that outdelivered a below-average performance of competing Grey’s Anatomy on ABC (Viewers: #2, 12,95 million; A18-49: #2, 5.2/12 from 9-10 p.m.) by a hefty 10.18 million viewers and 19 percent among adults 18-49. This could, in fact, be the lowest-rated performance for an original installment of the soapy medical drama ever. Now, of course, we have to wonder how CSI will hold up without William Petersen. Personally, I think it will be just fine.

Also in the 9 p.m. hour were just renewed NBC sitcoms The Office (Viewers: #3, 8.35 million; A18-49: #3, 4.3/10) and 30 Rock (Viewers: #3, 6.59 million; A18-49: #3, 3.2/ 7), which were both below average, the second season-finale of Fox’s Kitchen Nightmares (Viewers: #4, 4.28 million; A18-49: #4, 2.0/ 5), which warranted minimal interest, and Supernatural on the CW (Viewers: #5, 2.96 million; A18-49: #5, 1.2/ 3). Am I the only one who just cannot stand loudmouth Chef Gordon Ramsay?

Top-rated honors stayed with CBS care of the last 15-minutes of CSI and the first 45-minutes of Eleventh Hour (Viewers: 15.51 million; A18-49: 4.2/11). But since there are no 15-minute breakdowns, a “clean” number for Eleventh Hour was not available. Chances are CSI went through the roof from 10-10:15 p.m. Coming up in the hour in April: Agatha Christie-like mystery Harper’s Island.

Second in the 10 p.m. hour was ABC’s recently relocated Private Practice (Viewers: 8.66 million; A18-49: 3.4/ 9), followed by NBC’s soon-to-conclude ER (Viewers: 6.98 million; A18-49: 2.7/ 7), which will officially depart on April 2. Despite the lead-in support, Private Practice is still down year-to-year.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/489107381

[SV Fan]

Opposite the Presidential Address, the CW’s veteran Smallville rose to 4.27 million viewers (#4) and a 1.8/ 5 among adults 18-49 (#3t) from 8-9 p.m. -- its best performance this season.


If it holds that rating, it would be the 4th highest rated episode of the season not best(Odyssey, Identity and Bloodline all got higher).

To be honest that rating a slight dissapointment, I figured the legion might have helped SV get close to the 4.5M mark, but considering they just came back after a 10 week layoff it not that bad.

[RakuMon]

If it holds that rating, it would be the 4th highest rated episode of the season not best(Odyssey, Identity and Bloodline all got higher).

To be honest that rating a slight dissapointment, I figured the legion might have helped SV get close to the 4.5M mark, but considering they just came back after a 10 week layoff it not that bad.

Pretty sure he's referring to SV's performance vis a vis its competition, not necessarily its number of viewers. By that measure, i think this is the first time SV has come in 4th and 3rd in those demos he listed.

[LexFactor]

The ratings were higher than I expected after a long break. It seems Smallville has a consistent and loyal following this year.

[p4poetic]

Nice to hear.

[SV Fan]

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/01/16/thursday-ratings-csis-petersen-farewell-draws-23-million/10960

looks like ratings went up slightly to 4.299M

[Webhead2006]

nice to hear rating did well for season 8's second half return.

[p4poetic]

I'd like to see it reach 5 mill.

[SV Fan]

I'd like to see it reach 5 mill.

My Guess is the ratings will take a dip next week, and Power will probably lose even more viewers, but the final Lana episode will probably go up a bit(somewhere close to Bulletproof)

Only way an episode this year breaks 5M will be if this is the last season and the final episode gets enough hype.

[RakuMon]

No one posted the "Power" ratings? Smallville did fantastic last week. (Albeit, the rest of the nets were in repeats save for AI, but still, #3 in viewers and #2 in the demos? Hot damn.)

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/815108681

Prime-Time Ratings:
Thursday 1/29/09

-Total Viewers:
Fox: 17.67 million, CBS: 13.94, ABC: 5.72, NBC: 4.67, CW: 3.88

-Adults 18-49:
Fox: 7.0 rating/18 share, CBS: 3.5/ 9, NBC: 1.9/ 5, ABC: 1.8/ 5, CW: 1.7/ 4

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
American Idol (Fox), CSI (CBS)

-Yesterday’s Losers (excluding repeats)
Nothing…54 percent of last night’s line-up was in repeats.

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-Ratings Breakdown:
Fox rose to a rare Thursday victory, with another edition of American Idol at a healthy 24.27 million viewers and a 9.1 rating/25 share among adults 18-49 from 8-9 p.m. While that is actually below average for Idol, it was a major improvement for Fox in the hour. And it lifted the season-premiere of lead-out Hell’s Kitchen to a second-place finish in both total viewers (11.08 million) and adults 18-49 (4.9/12) at 9 p.m. Once again, American Idol was by far the top-rated show of the evening. Next week, relocated Bones returns to the Thursday anchor spot.

CBS can rest at ease, meanwhile, with William Petersen-less CSI at a still dominant 20.08 million viewers and a 5.4/13 among adults 18-49 at 9 p.m. Earlier in the evening on CBS was a repeat of Criminal Minds at a second-place 9.02 million viewers and a 2.0/ 5 in the demo at 8 p.m. And Eleventh Hour capped off the night for the Eye net with a first-place 12.70 million viewers and a 3.1/ 8 among adults 18-49 at 10 p.m. But retention of just 62 percent in viewers and 56 percent in the demo out of the 9:30 p.m. portion of CSI (Viewers: 20.32 million; A18-49: 5.5/13) keeps it off the winner’s list.

ABC finished third in total viewers and fourth overall among adults 18-49 with its combination of a repeat of Ugly Betty (Viewers: #4, 3.97 million; A18-49: #5, 1.0/ 3), which will be temporarily replaced on March 26 with sitcoms In the Motherhood and Samantha Who?, a repeat of Grey’s Anatomy (Viewers: #3, 5.54 million; A18-49: #4, 1.7/ 4), and an original installment of Private Practice (Viewers: #2, 7.66 million; A18-49: #2, 2.8/ 7). The positive news for Private Practice, of course, was the growth out of the Grey’s Anatomy encore.

A all night of repeats on NBC -- My Name is Earl (Viewers: #3, 4.83 million; A18-49: #3, 1.8/ 5), Kath & Kim (Viewers: #4, 3.29 million; A18-49: #3, 1.4/ 4), The Office (Viewers: #3, 5.80 million; A18-49: #3, 2.7/ 7), 30 Rock (Viewers: #4, 5.04 million; A18-49: #3, 2.2/ 5) and ER (Viewers: #3, 4.54 million; A18-49: #3, 1.7/ 4) -- finished in the distant No. 4 spot overall. And the CW closed the night with the regularly scheduled Smallville (Viewers: #3, 4.18 million; A18-49: #2, 1.7/ 5) and Supernatural (Viewers: #5, 3.57 million; A18-49: #5, 1.6/ 4). Will Smallville be back next season? Stay tuned.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

[SV Fan]

The finals actually were slightly higher at 4.21M

[Webhead2006]

yea i mentioned it in the power thread that it actually did very well even though the episode itself was a total mess(minus allison directing)

[SV Fan]

yea i mentioned it in the power thread that it actually did very well even though the episode itself was a total mess(minus allison directing)

I am curious to see Requiems ratings. I wonder if Bones actually has that big of an effect because it was up against Bulletproof, but Americian Idol was up against Power.

[The Incredible Hulk]

^ It's all about demos. AI may be a ratings juggernaut but it's target audience doesnt tend to intersect with Smallville's too often. Shows like Lost that have a male-dominated audience would have of an impact ratings wise on Smallville

[Prison Mike]

I bet the ratings for tomorrow's episode will plummet.

[AgentPat]

I bet the ratings for tomorrow's episode will plummet.It's either going to go up due to it being Lana's final episode, or it will go down due to competition and dissatisfaction among casual viewers from last week's disappointment. I'm betting on the latter. Last week there wasn't a lot of outside competition.

[SV Fan]

It's either going to go up due to it being Lana's final episode, or it will go down due to competition and dissatisfaction among casual viewers from last week's disappointment. I'm betting on the latter. Last week there wasn't a lot of outside competition.


I am going to guess about 4.1M(slightly downward), between all the people who will watch for her Last episode vs all the people who will not watch due to what you say, it'll take a slight hit

[Prison Mike]

It's either going to go up due to it being Lana's final episode, or it will go down due to competition and dissatisfaction among casual viewers from last week's disappointment. I'm betting on the latter. Last week there wasn't a lot of outside competition.

I think it will be the latter. People will be so pissed off from last week's episode that they won't tune in for tomorrow's episode.

[Webhead2006]

yea i hope it does decently and heck for all we know it could turn out to be a much better episode then power was.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Requiem fast national ratings:

Not great by any stretch, this may be the first time all season they've been under 4 million. Although they only had a .1 falloff in the 18-49 demo from last week which is strange.

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/447103881


Prime-Time Ratings:
Thursday 2/05/09

-Total Viewers:
ABC: 11.82 million, Fox: 9.22, CBS: 8.63, NBC: 6.70, CW: 3.61

-Adults 18-49:
ABC: 4.5 rating/12 share, Fox: 3.3/ 9, NBC: 2.9/ 8, CBS: 2.2/ 6, CW: 1.5/ 4

----------

-Yesterday’s Winners:
Bones (Fox), Grey’s Anatomy (ABC), Private Practice (ABC)

-Honorable Mention:
The Office (NBC), CSI R (CBS), Hell’s Kitchen (Fox)

-Yesterday’s Losers (excluding repeats):
My Name is Earl (NBC), Kath & Kim (NBC), 30 Rock (NBC)

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-Ratings Breakdown:
Opposite an all-repeat night on CBS, ABC moved into the winner’s circle on this first Thursday in February, with a first-place finish in both total viewers and adults 18-49. Second overall was Fox.

Fox’s recently relocated (and under-appreciated) Bones was first in the 8 p.m. hour, with 10.76 million viewers and a 3.2 rating/9 share among adults 18-49. No matter where the network airs Bones, viewers respond. Next was ABC’s Ugly Betty (Viewers: 7.27 million; A18-49: 2.3/ 7), which has not benefited without CBS’ competing Survivor in the mix (and will be taking a temporary break shortly).

In the battle of the 8-9 p.m. sitcoms, repeats of CBS’ The Big Bang Theory (Viewers: #3, 6.17 million; A18-49: #4, 2.0/ 6) and How I Met Your Mother (Viewers: #3, 5.95 million; A18-49: #3t, 2.0/ 5) actually had more viewers than original episodes of NBC’s My Name is Earl (Viewers: #4, 6.16 million; A18-49: #2, 2.5/ 7) and soon-to-conclude Kath & Kim (Viewers: #4, 4.72 million; A18-49: #3t, 2.0/ 5). As I always say, if you are not watching The Big Bang Theory, you are missing the funniest comedy currently on the air. As for My Name is Earl, NBC needs something stronger to open the evening with.

Capping off the 8-9 p.m. time period was the CW’s still relatively potent Smallville at 3.88 million viewers and a 1.6/ 4 in the demo. For the CW, that is still a positive.

Minus an original episode of CBS’ competing CSI, Grey’s Anatomy on ABC won the 9 p.m. hour, with 15.20 million viewers and a 5.8/14 among adults 18-49. But once upon a time, this soapy medical drama (which featured a cross-over with spin-off Private Practice last night) hovered in the 20-million range.

A repeat of CBS’ CSI was second in the 9-10 p.m. time period in total viewers (11.65 million), but fourth among adults 18-49 (2.7/ 7). Although NBC’s The Office got some mileage with 8.40 million viewers (#3) and a second-place 4.3/11 among adults 18-49, lead-out 30 Rock dipped to 6.33 million viewers (#4) and a 3.0/ 7 in the demo (#3) at 9:30 p.m. That’s enough of a loss from The Office (2.07 million viewers and 30 percent among adults 18-49) to be labeled a “loser.” As much as I have tried to get addicted to 30 Rock, last night’s episode was just plain dumb. Keep that in mind, Emmy voters.

Also airing from 9-10 p.m. was Hell’s Kitchen on Fox (Viewers: #3, 7.68 million; A18-49: #3, 3.5/ 9), which built from lead-in Bones by nine percent in the demo, and the CW’s Supernatural (Viewers: #5, 3.34 million; A18-49: #5, 1.3/ 3), which remains a solid fit out of Smallville.

The Grey’s Anatomy cross-over gave Private Practice a nice lift, with the sophomore drama at a season-high (and dominant) 12.99 million viewers and a 5.3/14 among adults 18-49 at 10 p.m. Comparably, retention out of the second half of lead-in Grey’s Anatomy (Viewers: 15.72 million; A18-49: 6.0/15 at 9:30 p.m.) was a solid 83 percent in total viewers and 88 percent in the demo. Tied for second in the hour were NBC’s soon-to-depart ER (Viewers: #3, 7.30 million; A18-49: #2, 2.7/ 7) and a repeat of CBS’ Eleventh Hour (Viewers: #2, 8.18 million; A18-49: #3, 1.9/ 5). Remember the days when ER would attract 25 million viewers? Times have changed, and not necessarily for the better.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

[SV Fan]

Requiem fast national ratings:

Not great by any stretch, this may be the first time all season they've been under 4 million. Although they only had a .1 falloff in the 18-49 demo from last week which is strange.

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/447103881

As much as I enjoy seeing this rating be sub-4M, I sadly think that's more an indication of going up against Bones then anything else(look at the numbers the previous 2 weeks, Bulletproof up against Bones was sub 4M and Power up against Ai was 4.2M)

[The Incredible Hulk]

As much as I enjoy seeing this rating be sub-4M, I sadly think that's more an indication of going up against Bones then anything else(look at the numbers the previous 2 weeks, Bulletproof up against Bones was sub 4M and Power up against Ai was 4.2M)

as someone who calls themselves "SV Fan" why would you derive enjoyment out of the show having lower ratings? :confused:

However I do agree somewhat with your premise on Bones. In the 18-49 demo, SV's rating barely budged in the last 3 weeks. There must be a lot of old people who enjoy Bones? Funny, I thought they all watched CBS ;)

[SV Fan]

as someone who calls themselves "SV Fan" why would you derive enjoyment out of the show having lower ratings?

I want the producers to see what does and doesn't sell on this show, this Lana arc(mainly last 2 episodes) was ridiculous and did no favors to Clark's character.

However I do agree somewhat with your premise on Bones. In the 18-49 demo, SV's rating barely budged in the last 3 weeks. There must be a lot of old people who enjoy Bones? Funny, I thought they all watched CBS ;)

I am not sure how much a 0.1 demo means in actual viewers but this episode went down roughly 300k people, which for smallville is a large chunk of viewers. If 150k-200k of that is the 18-49, that is good enough for me

[mellyM]

I want the producers to see what does and doesn't sell on this show, this Lana arc(mainly last 2 episodes) was ridiculous and did no favors to Clark's character.



I am not sure how much a 0.1 demo means in actual viewers but this episode went down roughly 300k people, which for smallville is a large chunk of viewers. If 150k-200k of that is the 18-49, that is good enough for me

I doubt it has anything to do with Lana, Bones was a repeat last week and it premiered the week before. Its just competition. I doubt the general audience has as much hate for Lana as there is online.

maybe the DVR ratings will be up, not that it matters in terms of ad revenue

[Webhead2006]

yea it doesnt seem much of a drop and who knows the final ratings could end up being slightly higher once we get all the numbers in.

[SV Fan]

yea it doesnt seem much of a drop and who knows the final ratings could end up being slightly higher once we get all the numbers in.

I am guessing 3.9-3.95M when the finals come out. 250k-300k viewers might not be a big drop, but when the show's average is just belowe 4.2M that is a pretty huge chunk of the audience.

I doubt it has anything to do with Lana, Bones was a repeat last week and it premiered the week before. Its just competition. I doubt the general audience has as much hate for Lana as there is online.

I agree with that, but if Requeim rating went up from Power it would send a bad message to PS3, I am pretty sure they will look at it as the effect of Bones as well.

[Webhead2006]

yea their is many factors that come into play.

[The Incredible Hulk]

I am not sure how much a 0.1 demo means in actual viewers but this episode went down roughly 300k people, which for smallville is a large chunk of viewers. If 150k-200k of that is the 18-49, that is good enough for me

each ratings point is just over a million viewers so a 0.1 change would be just over 100K viewers.

[SV Fan]

each ratings point is just over a million viewers so a 0.1 change would be just over 100K viewers.

Are you sure? because when we get intial numbers they come out in a form like 2.7/4, then when we get the viewers in millions it like 4M. I think the first number is the percentage of viewers who are watching TV at that moment tuning into the show.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/06/thursday-ratings-with-cbs-away-greys-anatomy-and-private-practice-come-out-to-play/12299


Rating: Estimated percentage of the universe of TV households (or other specified group) tuned to a program in the average minute. Ratings are expressed as a percent.

So while 0.1 might not seem alot it looks to be roughly 150k+ viewers, which in the smallville universe is a descent size decrease.

[SV Fan]

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/447103881/p/5

Final Rating

Smallville
- 3.932 million viewers
- 2.4/4 HH
- 1.6/4 A18-49
- 1.6/5 A18-34

[Webhead2006]

nice to see the final number was close to 4mill. Yes a drop from last week's good ratings but still a decent number for smallville and for the cw.

[Docker2.0]

Is Smallville the CW's highest rated show? PLEASE tell me Gossip Girl or 90210 is not! :cmad: Someone needs to get rid of Dawn! Its like its the CW is the Lifetime channel lite! :huh:

[SV Fan]

Is Smallville the CW's highest rated show? PLEASE tell me Gossip Girl or 90210 is not! :cmad: Someone needs to get rid of Dawn! Its like its the CW is the Lifetime channel lite! :huh:

Unless America's Top Model is on I am pretty sure it is(most there other shows save Supernatural barely scrap 3M)

[Webhead2006]

yea from everything i heard about all the other drama shows they are scraping at the bottom of ratings at 1-low 3million mark where smallville/supernatural are high 3-5million viewers are are the network's top rated scripted shows.

[Docker2.0]

Hahaha! I hope you guys are right! Its funny how the CW markets Gossip Girl and all those crappy girlie shows that not even girls like but barely market Smallville and Supernatural at all.

[SV Fan]

Hahaha! I hope you guys are right! Its funny how the CW markets Gossip Girl and all those crappy girlie shows that not even girls like but barely market Smallville and Supernatural at all.

I am not a TV person, but to me part of the problem to me seems they have so many shows of a similar type that they are dividing there own audience. Not everybody will watch every teenage Drama that is on TV so by having 6 similar type shows, chances are they might get alot of people who watch 1-2 of them but give up on the others ones becuase it's to much. They would probably be better off cutting down the girlie shows down to 2 nights then try diverisfy there other nights.

[Docker2.0]

I agree! you'd think with all the fanboys and the success of Smallville, the CW would try some kind of spin off to see where it leads instead of 20 other girl dramas that look exactly the same. But only a person with common sense would know this, not the WB. :o

[The Incredible Hulk]

has nothing to do with the WB. It's all on Dawn Ostroff who came over from UPN and now calls the shots (or misfires) at the CW.

[Webhead2006]

YEa with dawn o in charged she wants everything to be all woman demo(no offense to you ladies here). And it is silly why give all the advertise and money to gg/90210/etc..... shows which are failing in ratings but the shows that are the top rated ones for the network keep getting budget slashes.

[The Incredible Hulk]

almost the same ratings as before they went on hiatus

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/863101591


Prime-Time Ratings:
Thursday 3/12/09

-Total Viewers:
CBS: 13.88 million, ABC: 9.94, Fox: 8.66, NBC: 7.29, CW: 3.28

-Adults 18-49:
CBS: 3.7 rating/10 share, ABC: 3.5/ 9, NBC and Fox: 3.1/ 8 each, CW: 1.3/ 4

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
Survivor: Tocantins (CBS), CSI (CBS), Grey’s Anatomy (ABC), ER (NBC)

-Honorable Mention:
Bones (Fox)

-Disappointing:
Private Practice (ABC)

-Yesterday’s Losers (excluding repeats):
Kath & Kim (NBC) -- please NBC, officially cancel this!

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-Ratings Breakdown:
CBS led this second Thursday of the February 2009 sweeps, beating No. 2 ABC by 3.94 million viewers and six percent among adults 18-49. Fox and NBC tied for the No. 3 and 4 spots, while the CW finished a distant fifth.

The Eye net opened the night on a normally dominant note, with veteran Survivor: Tocantins at 12.89 million viewers and a 4.1 rating/12 share among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m. (which is right on par with the Micronesia version from one year earlier). As for the show itself, tone it down, Taj. What was that outburst all about?

Second in the 8 p.m. hour was Fox’s underappreciated Bones at a healthy 9.55 million viewers and a 2.8/ 8 in the demo. Also present was ABC’s hiatus-bound Ugly Betty (Viewers: #3, 7.21 million; A18-49: #3, 2.1/ 6), followed by a repeat of My Name Is Earl (Viewers: #4, 4.41 million; A18-49: #4, 1.7/ 5) and the season (or series) finale of the abysmal Kath & Kim (Viewers: #4, 4.00 million; A18-49: #4, 1.7/ 5) on NBC, and already renewed Smallville on the CW (Viewers: #5, 3.72 million; A18-49: #5, 1.6/ 5). Keep in mind that ABC will debut new sitcom Motherhood at 8 p.m. followed by the return of Samantha Who? effective on March 26.

CBS warhorse CSI and Grey’s Anatomy on ABC led the 9 p.m. hour, but both were below average. Take a look:

Thursday 9 p.m.
CSI (CBS)
Viewers: 16.96 million (#1), A18-49: 4.2/10 (#2)

Grey’s Anatomy (ABC)
Viewers: 13.54 million (#2), A18-49: 4.9/12 (#1)

Hell’s Kitchen on Fox and NBC’s The Office and 30 Rock shared the No. 3 and 4 spots as follows:

Thursday 9 p.m.
Hell’s Kitchen (Fox)
Viewers: 7.76 million (#3), A18-49: 3.5/ 9 (#4)

The Office (NBC) – 9 p.m.
Viewers: 7.51 million (#4), A18-49: 4.0/10 (#2t)

30 Rock (NBC) – 9:30 p.m.
Viewers: 6.41 million (#4), A18-49: 3.3/ 8 (#4)

And Supernatural on the CW capped off the 9 p.m. hour with 2.84 million viewers and a 1.1/ 3 among adults 18-49. Comparably, that put retention out of the second half of Smallville (Viewers: 3.84 million; A18-49: 1.6/ 5 at 8:30 p.m.) of 74 percent in total viewers and 69 percent in the demo.

[Webhead2006]

Good to see smallville is holding its ratings of high 3million-4million viewers still.

[04nbod]

YEa with dawn o in charged she wants everything to be all woman demo(no offense to you ladies here). And it is silly why give all the advertise and money to gg/90210/etc..... shows which are failing in ratings but the shows that are the top rated ones for the network keep getting budget slashes.

no offence taken. Remember, we woman loved the WB in its sci fi days. Buffy, Angel, Roswell...all that had a big female fan base. I don't feel like the CW makes shows for me (Smallville and Supernatural being the hangovers of a better time). I don't want to watch vapid socialites ***** about each other. I want excitement in my shows. I want to watch women who do good like Lois Lane, Kara Zor-el, Buffy Summers, Veronica Mars etc...

[Webhead2006]

Yea dawn just thinks those silly rich girl drama shows are the best things to have. I wish she was a better president but at this rate and if u been following Cw's troubles she is running it into the ground fast.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Hex ratings, staying consistent around 3.74 million. It still may have been impacted by the NCAA Tournament and AI's odd Thursday night show this week due to Obama on Tuesday.

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/584109891


Prime-Time Ratings:
Thursday 3/26/09

-Total Viewers:
Fox: 16.65 million, ABC; 10.97, CBS: 10.12, NBC: 7.78, CW: 3.46

-Adults 18-49:
Fox: 6.1 rating/16 share, ABC: 3.8/10, CBS: 3.5/ 9, NBC: 3.1/ 8, CW: 1.4/ 4

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
American Idol (Fox), Grey’s Anatomy (ABC)

-Yesterday’s Losers (excluding repeats):
My Name is Earl (NBC)

----------

-Note: Any year-ago comparisons are based on the final nationals.

----------

-Ratings Breakdown:
Fox dominated this final Thursday in March (and the first night after the February 2009 sweeps) care of the live American Idol Results Show, which was pushed back one night due to President Obama in prime-time on Tuesday. Second was ABC, followed by March Madness on CBS, NBC and the CW.

American Idol stood well above the competition, with 22.35 million viewers and a 7.5 rating/21 share among adults 18-49. That led into loud Hell’s Kitchen, which was above-average with 10.94 million viewers (#3) and a 4.8/12 share in the demo (#2) at 9 p.m. It certainly does not hurt having American Idol as your lead-in, now does it?

In series-premiere news, ABC sitcom In the Motherhood was nothing to boast about with 6.72 million viewers and a 2.1/ 6 among adults 18-49 -- third in both categories (and better than NBC’s competing My Name is Earl). Comparably, this was about equal to the weak-ago performance of former occupant Ugly Betty. In the Motherhood led into the return of Samantha Who?, which debuted in the Thursday 8:30 p.m. time period with a compatible 6.53 million viewers (#3) and a 2.1/ 6 in the demo (#2t). Next on ABC was Grey’s Anatomy (Viewers: 15.81 million; A18-49: 5.5/13), which according to posters at PIFeedback was an amazing episode, followed by spin-off Private Practice (Viewers: #1, 10.47 million; A18-49: #1t, 3.7/10 at 10 p.m.). Retention for Private Practice out of the second half of Grey’s Anatomy (Viewers: 16.54 million; A18-49: 5.8/14 at 9:30 p.m.) was an acceptable 63 percent in total viewers and 64 percent in the demo).

Over at CBS was day one of the 2009 NCAA Basketball: Regional Semi-Finals at an estimated 10.12 million viewers (#3) and a 3.5/ 9 among adults 18-49 (#3) in prime-time. Comparably, that was close to levels from one year earlier (Viewers: 10.02 million; A18-49: 3.9/11 on March 27, 2008). As a reminder, results for any live sporting event are always approximate.

NBC was at typical lackluster Thursday levels with its combination of My Name is Earl (Viewers: #4, 5.87 million; A18-49: #4, 2.0/ 6), a repeat of The Office (Viewers: #4, 4.87 million; A18-49: #3t, 2.1/ 5), an original installment of The Office (Viewers: #4, 8.44 million; A18-49: #3, 4.3/11), which always generates interest among adults 18-49, silly 30 Rock (Viewers: #4, 7.17 million; A18-49: #4, 3.4/ 8) and veteran ER (Viewers: #2, 10.16 million; A18-49: #3, 3.6/10), which officially concludes next Thursday. To anyone expecting huge results for the ER-ender, this will be no M*A*S*H. As for The Office, I missed it last night. Is Michael back at Dunder-Mifflin yet?

The CW capped off the evening with original episodes of the already renewed Smallville (Viewers: #5, 3.74 million; A18-49: #5, 1.5/ 4), which heads into season nine next fall (time flies!) and the very compatible Supernatural (Viewers: #5, 3.17 million; A18-49: #5, 1.2/ 3), which enters season five.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

[Webhead2006]

nice roughly 4million viewers. Good rating.

[Zing79]

I would like to bring this thread back just to point this out: the show that replaced Smallville (Vampire Diaries) had a series premier that barely beat out Smallville's season premier last year.

And this week they lost 1.2 million viewers from that premier and are now at 3.76 million in the overnights. Scroll up to see what Smallville did for Hex (spoiler warning it's virtually the same number :oldrazz:) - an episode in the middle of its season against the NCAA Tournament.

What are the odds VD (yes I'm intentionally using that acronym as a pun) loses even more audience next week, and the week after that, etc?

So in conclusion: if your personal opinion was that Dawn Ostrof was dumber that a monkey before this, allow the numbers to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is indeed that stupid.

She'll kill two shows at once. VD won't survive Thursdays against the competition it has, and Smallville is going to get hit hard by being on Friday.

That deserves a :doh:

[Webhead2006]

oh i doubt it will keep above 3 million viewers for its remaining episodes. I wish it luck and all we know the network needs good ratings for shows to keep the network up and going. Though all we can hope for smallville is for it to hold and maintain its ratings. By the chance zing i know last week's season premire for supernatural was about 3.4 million viewers, do you know how episode 2 ratings went?

As for the friday move really only one show is in direct competiton with smallville which is the first hr of wwe smackdown on my network. The other shows on fridays ghost whisperer/law and order/ugly betty are not in smallville's demo. Then you have to look at how the show did on its tuesdays/wensdays/thursday nights and it was always going up again shows like american idol, survivor, and others who had much stronger numbers and were getting 1-3rd place of the night with smallville getting its 3-4 million viewers and getting 5-7th place of the night.

[Webhead2006]

oh i doubt it will keep above 3 million viewers for its remaining episodes. I wish it luck and all we know the network needs good ratings for shows to keep the network up and going. Though all we can hope for smallville is for it to hold and maintain its ratings. By the chance zing i know last week's season premire for supernatural was about 3.4 million viewers, do you know how episode 2 ratings went?

As for the friday move really only one show is in direct competiton with smallville which is the first hr of wwe smackdown on my network. The other shows on fridays ghost whisperer/law and order/ugly betty are not in smallville's demo. Then you have to look at how the show did on its tuesdays/wensdays/thursday nights and it was always going up again shows like american idol, survivor, and others who had much stronger numbers and were getting 1-3rd place of the night with smallville getting its 3-4 million viewers and getting 5-7th place of the night.

[Webhead2006]

ok so i was just checking next friday's lineup from the main networks. brothers fox, ghost whisperer cbs, law and order nbc, baseball abc(ugly betty will be here normally), and wwe smackdown my network. So as i was saying before smackdown is really only show in smallville's target demo. Then fox has a new show, and who knows how good or bad it will be. Then cbs/nbc/abc have their solid shows in ghost whisperer and law and order.

So i figure weekly it will probably go 1. ghost whisperer(probably getting 8-10million) 2. law and order(8-10million) 3 ugly betty(7-9million), 4 fox show(6-8million), 5 smallville(3-5million) 6 smackdown(2-4million) for the top 6 shows at 8 pm.

[triplet]

I don't know how bad Fridays is going to be for Smallville...I don't see that the overnights have been posted for last night yet, but since the competing shows are all so different from Smallville (ugly betty, ghost whisperer and L&O), I think it will just as well or better than it had on Thursdays.

But I suppose only time will tell... We'll see this time next week.

[Mikelus]

...but it’s hard not to imagine CBS dominating Fridays. They typically won the night last season, and Medium is a net positive. Second place looks to be a battle between NBC and ABC that I think NBC will likely win. Leno has his easiest competition of the week and should do relatively well.

Fox looks to be well back in 4th, but since their Fridays last season were so screwed up, season to season comparisons may not be that bad. The CW will see a big increase on Fridays, since Smallville, their best 18-49 demo show last season, will do far better than The Game and Everybody Hates Chris that it replaces.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/09/10/friday-night-2009-10-tv-misfits-dollhouse-ugly-betty-til-death-southland/26735


SV should be fine, between 2-3 million viewers* is more than many CW shows and much better than what they had last year on Fridays.

* Taking into account less people watch TV on Fridays and the yearly decrease in ratings.

[Prison Mike]

but will it do better than when it was on Thursday nights? I doubt it.

[Webhead2006]

well its all a waiting game right now. I am sure smallville will be able to keep its average viewership and if the +7 figures count in too for the DVR/TIVO crowds. But its hard to judge the season to we have at least 3-4 episodes aired so we can see how its holding it viewers and then compare it to the other main networks. And its bound to do better then any of the stuff cw had on fridays before.

[SV Fan]

For arguement sake SV doesn't go up against Ugly Betty, Supernanny is on ABC at 8PM. The fact that UB is on at 9PM might actually help SV out a little. I can also see Dollhouse helping SV out a bit(the show on Fox at 8 PM is a comedy so...)

As for my guess how it will do in the ratings, it pulled a 1.57M viewers last night for a repeat and it seems like for the past few years SV has slightly doubled it's last repeat in terms of Season Premiere rating, so I am guessing it will be in the 3.2-3.4M range.

I think if the show gets good word of mouth you will se ratings go up slightly(much like how it did from Toxic -> Bloodline) but if it's taken negatively it might dip under 3M.

As for VD, I am guessing the show ill take one more dip in the ratings and level off(although It probably will stay above 3M)

[Webhead2006]

by chance does any one know how episode two of supernatural did this week?

[SV Fan]

by chance does any one know how episode two of supernatural did this week?

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/209103142

2.8M

[Webhead2006]

thanks sv fan i was just wondering how it did. Not to bad of a drop hopefully they can keep rest of their season around there.

[Webhead2006]

Man i cant wait to see what the numbers where for smallville premire compared to the fox/nbc/cbs stuff. I hope we got at or around 4million. Then hopefully the season can maintain its needed 3 million(average viewership) to keep the CW happy with the friday move.

[Webhead2006]

from tvbythenumbers.com

well this is a little disapointing. I was just at tvbythenumbers.com a ratings site. Well cbs won the night, and fox's 8pm show wasnt that hot, and abc's rerun of flashforward did well. But smallville ended up doing not to hot. I was hoping it could have gotten like 3.5-4.0million. But it only got 2.5 million. Though its only early numbers, so final numbers could go a little higher.

[Zing79]

Who didn't see this coming???

2.5 million now will turn into less than 2 million in a few months. It's safe to say we can forget about another season.

[KBX]

Can't say Im surprised by those numbers, but Im still convinced they will get another season if they choose so.... Have you seen CWs other slate of shows?

[Webhead2006]

oh yea alot were thiking it would be a little down. Though its only early numbers and final/live +7 numbers are not in yet. So maybe it can bump it to around 2.8-3.0. But it is doing better then any of the crap cw had on friday's before.

[Fresh Prince]

This is sad cause this looks like a great season too.

[Webhead2006]

well we can hope the +7 numbers increase it a bit, and if things on other networks dont fair well in the coming weeks. But it still doing better then former friday shows. Though with the beatiful life can and melrose place not fairing that great just aroudn 2million. If they can hold 2+ million dawn will probably keep it around. Plus we cant judge how the season will go to we get a few more episodes out.

[Prison Mike]

this is indeed disappointing. oh well. maybe the numbers will increase as more episodes air.

[AgentPat]

Who didn't see this coming???

2.5 million now will turn into less than 2 million in a few months. It's safe to say we can forget about another season.Not necessarily.

Knowing how much CW likes to spin their ratings through press releases, I'm not sure how much *they* feel moving SV to Friday nights was the right idea, but the fact of the matter is, last night's episode of SV "scored [CW's] best performance in the Friday 8pm hour among adults 18-34 (1.0/4-tie), adults 18-49 (1.0/4) and total viewers (2.5mil) in a year (Sept. 26 2008 - Smackdown)." And that episode of Smackdown was the finale.

The whole point of moving SV to Fridays was to boost their ratings on that night. If the show consistently performs better than any other show they've had in that time slot - and does so by a wide margin - it will serve the purpose of promoting that time slot to CW's sponsors. This is why I think the producers have been so sure they'd get a 10th season; the CW doesn't have anything else that can pull that kind of viewership at 8pm on a Friday night.

[Mikelus]

Not necessarily.

Knowing how much CW likes to spin their ratings through press releases, I'm not sure how much *they* feel moving SV to Friday nights was the right idea, but the fact of the matter is, last night's episode of SV "scored [CW's] best performance in the Friday 8pm hour among adults 18-34 (1.0/4-tie), adults 18-49 (1.0/4) and total viewers (2.5mil) in a year (Sept. 26 2008 - Smackdown)." And that episode of Smackdown was the finale.

The whole point of moving SV to Fridays was to boost their ratings on that night. If the show consistently performs better than any other show they've had in that time slot - and does so by a wide margin - it will serve the purpose of promoting that time slot to CW's sponsors. This is why I think the producers have been so sure they'd get a 10th season; the CW doesn't have anything else that can pull that kind of viewership at 8pm on a Friday night.


Versus premiere night last year, Smallville outperformed our comedies by +25% in adults 18-49 and +25% in total viewers.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/09/26/tv-ratings-dollhouse-brothers-bomb-on-fox-cbs-wins-night/28502


As long as the CW is satisfied with the results, SV should be fine.

[Webhead2006]

Not necessarily.

Knowing how much CW likes to spin their ratings through press releases, I'm not sure how much *they* feel moving SV to Friday nights was the right idea, but the fact of the matter is, last night's episode of SV "scored [CW's] best performance in the Friday 8pm hour among adults 18-34 (1.0/4-tie), adults 18-49 (1.0/4) and total viewers (2.5mil) in a year (Sept. 26 2008 - Smackdown)." And that episode of Smackdown was the finale.

The whole point of moving SV to Fridays was to boost their ratings on that night. If the show consistently performs better than any other show they've had in that time slot - and does so by a wide margin - it will serve the purpose of promoting that time slot to CW's sponsors. This is why I think the producers have been so sure they'd get a 10th season; the CW doesn't have anything else that can pull that kind of viewership at 8pm on a Friday night.
I see it as that reason too. Sure we all would like a bit higher ratings and maybe they can if word of mouth gets out their that it started off good and wasnt a dud like doomsday episode. Episodes could increase slightly per episode for all we know. We will just have to see how next few episodes go. So we can see how smallville's trend is going, will it be going up, down, or stay the same roughly. But yea dawn o has said as long as it preforms for them on fridays and stays above 2 or gets around 3 they are happy for that number on fridays and the show will stick around.

[lespaul59]

Do they figure DVR number in also? I thought I remember reading that they helped a show on CBS(Jericho maybe, I can't remember the name) get a second season. I know I had to DVR SV because I was working a high school football and didn't get home till about 11:00pm. And I watched SV about a half an hour after I got home. I want to watch the episode again before I give my opinion on it just to see if I have the same feeling and make sure I'm not just jumping to conclusions I guess yopu can say.

[Webhead2006]

i think dvr/tivo are counted in the live +7 numbers which havent been factored in yet. probably will be out monday. So the final number with live + 7 could bump it up to 2.8-3.0 range. But yea since the cw said the ratings was the best they have had for a friday compared to last season. We are fine for now. The show would have to do as poorly as that the beatiful life show did in two episodes to be dropped from cw. So as long as it stays between 2-3million viewers the show will be fine. Then also we have to look at how other cw shows have been fairing in ratings this season so far. All of them minus vampire diaries have only been in mid 2 million viewers range. So if those shows are staying they wouldnt bump smallville. They need it for friday or they got nothing there. Plus they really cant dump any other shows at this time cause they dont have any mid season replacements ready to go yet.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

They want ratings? Put him in the suit, make him fly, call him Superman and promote the s*** out of it.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Not necessarily.

Knowing how much CW likes to spin their ratings through press releases, I'm not sure how much *they* feel moving SV to Friday nights was the right idea, but the fact of the matter is, last night's episode of SV "scored [CW's] best performance in the Friday 8pm hour among adults 18-34 (1.0/4-tie), adults 18-49 (1.0/4) and total viewers (2.5mil) in a year (Sept. 26 2008 - Smackdown)." And that episode of Smackdown was the finale.

The whole point of moving SV to Fridays was to boost their ratings on that night. If the show consistently performs better than any other show they've had in that time slot - and does so by a wide margin - it will serve the purpose of promoting that time slot to CW's sponsors. This is why I think the producers have been so sure they'd get a 10th season; the CW doesn't have anything else that can pull that kind of viewership at 8pm on a Friday night.

Bingo. Ratings are in large part relative. You cant compare the show to what it was doing on Thursday nights now. Friday night is a whole new game. AS long as Smallville is far out-performing the other dreck that CW had on in the past on Fridays. then it's golden.

All of these people who try to post these ratings numbers comparisons back to 2001 like the knuckleheads over at Superman Homepage need to learn that. Smallville has now been on every weeknight with the exception of Mondays in it's 9 year run. A lot of that analysis will be apples to oranges.

[Webhead2006]

oh yea totally hulk. Each night has been a different case for the show between the wb and the cw. Yes its some of the wrost ratings the show has had for a live episode. But relative to this season of cw shows its the same pretty much. So if they hold the in between 2-3 million like the others it will be here for full season. It would have to drop to only 1million or less for them to can it. Plus we know they cant really dont any other shows at this time. Since they have nothing to replace things with yet. Plus this is the best numbers they have had on fridays. Then also look at it the other networks were only between 8-2 million viewers. So all networks were crap on friday. Plus for all we know in the coming weeks with fox's block doing bad smallville could easily out beat them and possible get 3rd place for the night.

[Mikelus]

Final ratings for "Savior" went up a bit, 2.57 million:

Smallville
- 2.573 million viewers
- 1.6/3 HH
- 1.0/4 A18-49
- 1.1/4 A18-34
- 0.9/3 W18-34

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/741105342/p/13

[Webhead2006]

i thought were we were not getting the final numbers for about another week?

[Webhead2006]

mikelus so is it still final numbers just 2.5million or do i add all those other numbers to 2.5 and get final number.

[Mikelus]

Smallville DVR numbers should be out next week according to Ausiello:

Now here’s some spin I can get behind: The live-plus-seven-day DVR numbers from the opening week of the TV season are in, and 90210, Melrose Place, and Vampire Diaries all saw significant gains compared to live-only viewing, with 90210 getting the biggest boost. The highlights:

* 90210 grew a considerable 73 percent in women 18-34 (1.92 vs. 3.32) and 46 percent in total viewers (1.9 million vs. 2.9 million).

* Melrose Place, which has been struggling in the ratings, gained 54 percent in women 18-34 (2.12 vs. 3.26) and 43 percent in total viewers (2 million vs. 2.8 million).

* Freshman hit Vampire Diaries soared 64 percent in women 18-34 (2.33 vs. 3.83) and 40 percent in total viewers (4.0 million vs. 5.7 million).

* Supernatural grew 35 percent in women 18-34 (1.5 vs. 2.0) and 38 percent (2.9 million vs. 4 million) in total viewers.

Data for Gossip Girl, One Tree Hill, and Smallville should start trickling in next week.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/09/30/scoop-vampire-90210-melrose-get-bigger/

[The Incredible Hulk]

2.573 is the final number. Those other figures below it are the demo breakdowns

[Webhead2006]

oh ok i dont get those figures for the demo stuff. Well if all those other cw shows did well with the live + 7 numbers hopefully smallville's final counts will be up there too. I am hoping probably up to like 3.3-3.5 range hopefully.

[Webhead2006]

Metallo's overnight ratings are in:

Well just went to tvbythenumbers for the over night numbers. Even with the lost of the nyc market for mets game. Smallville did pretty well. A slight dip from premire numbers of 2.573(overall) metallo got overnight rating of 2.39. So thats good to hear.

[AgentPat]

Metallo's overnight ratings are in:

Well just went to tvbythenumbers for the over night numbers. Even with the lost of the nyc market for mets game. Smallville did pretty well. A slight dip from premire numbers of 2.573(overall) metallo got overnight rating of 2.39. So thats good to hear.Overnights include the Mets' game. Numbers reflect everybody who watched the CW last night, regardless of what was being broadcast. Any local affiliates that did not air Smallville will be backed out of the ratings for the finals numbers.


Overnight ratings for SV, courtesy Travis Yanan at PiFeedback:
8:00: 1.4/3HH, 0.9/4 A18-49, 1.1/5 A18-34, 2,340,000 Viewers
8:30: 1.5/3HH, 0.9/3 A18-49, 1.1/5 A18-34, 2,434,000 Viewers

[Webhead2006]

oh i didnt know that. But still the 2.39 rating is still pretty good. Could someone explain to me more about the whole:
8:00: 1.4/3HH, 0.9/4 A18-49, 1.1/5 A18-34, 2,340,000 Viewers
8:30: 1.5/3HH, 0.9/3 A18-49, 1.1/5 A18-34, 2,434,000 Viewers
Stuff i get the finale numbers stuff but in school i never got those breakdown/demo stuff all that much.

[SV Fan]

Could someone explain to me.........


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_Ratings#Ratings.2Fshare_and_total_viewers


The most commonly cited Nielsen results are reported in two measurements: ratings points and share, usually reported as: "ratings points/share". As of September 1, 2009, there are an estimated 114.9 million television households in the United States. A single national ratings point represents one percent of the total number, or 1,149,000 households for the 2009–10 season.

Share is the percentage of television sets in use tuned to the program. For example, Nielsen may report a show as receiving a 9.2/15 during its broadcast, meaning that on average 9.2 percent of all television-equipped households were tuned in to that program at any given moment, while 15 percent of households watching TV were tuned into any program during this timeslot. (Nielsen re-estimates the number of TV-equipped households each August for the upcoming television season.) The difference between rating and share is that a rating reflects the percentage of the total population of televisions tuned to a particular program while share reflects the percentage of televisions actually in use

[Webhead2006]

thats man that helps me out a bit.

[Billy Batson]

Are you guys aware, the sole purpose they moved Smallvile to Friday? was/is to kill off the show. IMHO
Smallville is a joke of a show now, time to put this old boy to sleep.
Finally the studio heads should have the ammo (low ratings) needed to pull the plug.
Well! have fun, enjoying the token story lines this season.
I'll watch with alot of anger and day dream about, what should have been for this outstanding series.

Damn! I had to live on this version of the two Earths.
Smallville lasted only 4 highly rated seasons, before becoming a blockbuster hit titled Superman: The Man Of Steel, on our parallel planet.

[kal_el_526]

Lol god everyone has so much hatred towards the show now, its wierd i think its better then ever

[Zorex]

Are you guys aware, the sole purpose they moved Smallvile to Friday? was/is to kill off the show. IMHO
Smallville is a joke of a show now, time to put this old boy to sleep.
Finally the studio heads should have the ammo (low ratings) needed to pull the plug.
Well! have fun, enjoying the token story lines this season.
I'll watch with alot of anger and day dream about, what should have been for this outstanding series.

Damn! I had to live on this version of the two Earths.
Smallville lasted only 4 highly rated seasons, before becoming a blockbuster hit titled Superman: The Man Of Steel, on our parallel planet.
Uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh..............



...............'Kaaaaaaaaayyyy............

[AgentPat]

Overnights include the Mets' game. Numbers reflect everybody who watched the CW last night, regardless of what was being broadcast. Any local affiliates that did not air Smallville will be backed out of the ratings for the finals numbers.

Overnight ratings for SV, courtesy Travis Yanan at PiFeedback:
8:00: 1.4/3HH, 0.9/4 A18-49, 1.1/5 A18-34, 2,340,000 Viewers
8:30: 1.5/3HH, 0.9/3 A18-49, 1.1/5 A18-34, 2,434,000 Viewers
Here are the finals, courtesy Mr. Yanan again from PiFeedback:

Smallville (86% coverage, CW usually has 94%)
- 2,238,000 viewers
- 1.4/3 HH
- 0.9/4 A18-49
- 1.1/4 A18-34
- 0.7/3 W18-34

[Prison Mike]

so the estimates were greater than the actuals. ouch.

[SV Fan]

so the estimates were greater than the actuals. ouch.

Well the overnights included people who watched the Met's baseball game, It was safe to assume the number would drop a little

[Webhead2006]

wait so what is the final number then?

[The Incredible Hulk]

Well the overnights included people who watched the Met's baseball game, It was safe to assume the number would drop a little

People were still watching the Mets? :confused:

[Milos]

Are you guys aware, the sole purpose they moved Smallvile to Friday? was/is to kill off the show. IMHO
Smallville is a joke of a show now, time to put this old boy to sleep.
Finally the studio heads should have the ammo (low ratings) needed to pull the plug.
Well! have fun, enjoying the token story lines this season.
I'll watch with alot of anger and day dream about, what should have been for this outstanding series.

Damn! I had to live on this version of the two Earths.
Smallville lasted only 4 highly rated seasons, before becoming a blockbuster hit titled Superman: The Man Of Steel, on our parallel planet.

I completely agree with you!

[The Incredible Hulk]

Are you guys aware, the sole purpose they moved Smallvile to Friday? was/is to kill off the show. IMHO
.

Yes of course, a company who is in business to make money would take it's best performing series and outright cash cow for the past 8 years, and just purposely kill it off for the sake of doing so.

C'mon people, do you REALLY think THAT is the motivation here? IF CW wanted to kill Smallville off, they just wouldnt renew it. It's as simple as that. It's not like they'd have to justify cancelling it to someomne by having to show it had bad ratings.

Now why exactly they feel they can make more money on Friday nights as opposed to the usual Thursday "money night" for ratings? I dont know. Maybe market research indicates that with the crappy economy more people are staying in on Friday nights? Who knows?

[Webhead2006]

yea that is right if they didnt want the show any more they would have simpley not renewed it. Why waste millions of dollars on a show if you dont want it any more. Sure the ratings havent been as great as it was on thursdays. But its still better then the crap CW had on fridays after dumping smackdown. Plus we know pretty much show has to be like below 1 million viewers for CW to axe a show. Plus they cant really drop anything else right now since they have no other programing to replace it yet to mid season period.

[Mikelus]

Yes of course, a company who is in business to make money would take it's best performing series and outright cash cow for the past 8 years, and just purposely kill it off for the sake of doing so.

C'mon people, do you REALLY think THAT is the motivation here? IF CW wanted to kill Smallville off, they just wouldnt renew it. It's as simple as that. It's not like they'd have to justify cancelling it to someomne by having to show it had bad ratings.


Haters don't know what they're talking about (as usual).

Fox looks to be well back in 4th, but since their Fridays last season were so screwed up, season to season comparisons may not be that bad. The CW will see a big increase on Fridays, since Smallville, their best 18-49 demo show last season, will do far better than The Game and Everybody Hates Chris that it replaces.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/09/10/friday-night-2009-10-tv-misfits-dollhouse-ugly-betty-til-death-southland/26735

Plus Smallville is extremely popular on iTunes, is one of the most downloaded series, DVDs sell well, that's why WB keeps milking the show, those are the facts.

[Webhead2006]

you are right there. Plus every night ratings/shows competitions are different.

[Billy Batson]

I completely agree with you!

:cwink:

Yes of course, a company who is in business to make money would take it's best performing series and outright cash cow for the past 8 years, and just purposely kill it off for the sake of doing so.

C'mon people, do you REALLY think THAT is the motivation here? IF CW wanted to kill Smallville off, they just wouldnt renew it. It's as simple as that. It's not like they'd have to justify cancelling it to someomne by having to show it had bad ratings.

Now why exactly they feel they can make more money on Friday nights as opposed to the usual Thursday "money night" for ratings? I dont know. Maybe market research indicates that with the crappy economy more people are staying in on Friday nights? Who knows?

Exactly because the show is a cash cow they are FORCED to renew it.
Next season they'll move it to Saturday. :hehe:
Smallville has turned into Lois & Clark for cryin out loud. MAN WTF!!!
I didn't know Downtown Smallville was called Metropolis?
I understand Clark going and coming from Metropolis like it's a 10 min drive away but how the hell does Chloe and Lois travel to and from so quickly?

- TALON

[Webhead2006]

that has been a stickly thing fans havent liked about the show. The whole distance from smallville to metropolis has changed alot over the course of the series. It was stated in the early seasons it was around 3hrs to get from one to the other which would equal a couple hundred miles. Then it became more like smallville is like a suburb type of deal from metropolis. It would have been more interesting if they made metropolis the real distance away from smallville being in middle america and metropolis somewhere on the east coast between nyc/nj/delware/etc....

[Billy Batson]

See Webhead, little things like that, show they can give a rats A_ _ about the logic behind Superman mythos.
Smallville has detour so far left it has become a train wreck of a series, that should never be mentioned in any Superman conversation.
I no longer understand what's the point of the show? Where is it going?
It's just a pay check to everyone involved now.
I can't understand how some fans see the series as BETTER. Are you serious?
Sadly, you are serious. I guess. I just don't have a clue.

[Webhead2006]

well everyone has their opinions, sure at times the show has done stupid things and i havent liked it. But from the early days through now there has been alot of good things the show has/is doing. I still enjoy the show and will continue to watch it to when ever it ends. But yea everyone has their likes and dislikes in tv shows/films.

[Brainiac 8]

See Webhead, little things like that, show they can give a rats A_ _ about the logic behind Superman mythos.
Smallville has detour so far left it has become a train wreck of a series, that should never be mentioned in any Superman conversation.
I no longer understand what's the point of the show? Where is it going?
It's just a pay check to everyone involved now.
I can't understand how some fans see the series as BETTER. Are you serious?
Sadly, you are serious. I guess. I just don't have a clue.


Yes, because we all know that even the comic books continue to follow the logic behind the established mythos...oh wait...it doesn't.

In fact the mythos has been done and redone, and about to be redone again that there is no set mythos for Superman.

[Billy Batson]

well everyone has their opinions, sure at times the show has done stupid things and i havent liked it. But from the early days through now there has been alot of good things the show has/is doing. I still enjoy the show and will continue to watch it to when ever it ends. But yea everyone has their likes and dislikes in tv shows/films.


well you are correct, thanks for entertaining my opinion. Pardon me for taking this a little of coarse. Smallville being a power house in the ratings department on the CW and all.
I just don't understand the logic in moving the show to Fridays other than to tank it.

We always kept and eye on the ratings to gauge how successful a season the show will have. then we speculate on the direction the show may take the following season and what should be done to make next season's ratings go even higher.

I truly enjoyed doing that, but it's no longer the same, in a negative way.

[Billy Batson]

Yes, because we all know that even the comic books continue to follow the logic behind the established mythos...oh wait...it doesn't.

In fact the mythos has been done and redone, and about to be redone again that there is no set mythos for Superman.

Normally when a comic derail from the mythos it's a logical amendment to the mythos. when done correctly, I give praise. when it done poorly, I express my disappointment. :word:

[Brainiac 8]

Normally when a comic derail from the mythos it's a complete overhaul to the mythos. when done correctly, I give praise. when it done poorly, I express my disappointment. :word:

Fixed that for you.

It's why I despise DC sometimes.

[Billy Batson]

Thanks.

I hear you, I hear you.

[Brainiac 8]

I wasn't trying to be a jerk to you. I'm just venting my frustrations at DC.

Leave Superman's history alone! We know where he came from and who his supporting cast is! We don't need a new secret origin...isn't his public origin good enough. Argh! :argh:

[Webhead2006]

yea i have nothing against you billy. You are entitled to your opinions on the show. Sure it has changed alot from the pilot to metallo. But all shows need to change and grow/refresh it self if it wants to continue. Sure the ratings so far for this season havent been hot. Same goes for pretty much all other cw shows besides that vampire diaries show. Sure it would be great if smallville was back in its 3-4 million viewer range it has been since moving to CW. But we all know dawn o has been an idiot at times with scheduling shows. Sure i wish it was still on thursdays and paired with supernatural that was the network's best night pretty much. Hopefully they can pair smallville with something better come mid season or maybe move some shows around like maybe move tuesdays stuff to fridays move smallville to tuesdays and pair it with something better who knows.

[Billy Batson]

I wasn't trying to be a jerk to you. I'm just venting my frustrations at DC.

Leave Superman's history alone! We know where he came from and who his supporting cast is! We don't need a new secret origin...isn't his public origin good enough. Argh! :argh:


and where did i say u were exactly? :huh:
I recognized your frustration and acknowledge it by informing you that "I hear you".

HELLO!!!?

yea i have nothing against you billy. You are entitled to your opinions on the show. Sure it has changed alot from the pilot to metallo. But all shows need to change and grow/refresh it self if it wants to continue. Sure the ratings so far for this season havent been hot. Same goes for pretty much all other cw shows besides that vampire diaries show. Sure it would be great if smallville was back in its 3-4 million viewer range it has been since moving to CW. But we all know dawn o has been an idiot at times with scheduling shows. Sure i wish it was still on thursdays and paired with supernatural that was the network's best night pretty much. Hopefully they can pair smallville with something better come mid season or maybe move some shows around like maybe move tuesdays stuff to fridays move smallville to tuesdays and pair it with something better who knows.

sir, i never took any of your replies wrong. nor do I take any one else replies personally.
It's all LUV.

[Brainiac 8]

Just wanted to make sure Billy...clarifying and all that jazz. :D

[Webhead2006]

ok thats good to hear billy.

[lespaul59]

Well the overnights included people who watched the Met's baseball game, It was safe to assume the number would drop a little

So does the channel that showed the Mets game replay SV another night, show episode 2 insted of three or just skip the epi?

[Webhead2006]

i believe any market that preempted the show for any sports do reair the episode at a later time be that after the sport game ended of a following day. I believe for the nyc market they aired the episode sometime this past saturday evening.

[Serene]

S
Smallville has detour so far left it has become a train wreck of a series, that should never be mentioned in any Superman conversation.
I no longer understand what's the point of the show? Where is it going?
It's just a pay check to everyone involved now.
I can't understand how some fans see the series as BETTER. Are you serious?

That's a pretty harsh opinion of the show. Totally your prerogative to have, but then I don't really understand why you then said:


I just don't understand the logic in moving the show to Fridays other than to tank it.

Why do you care if the show is being "tanked" if it's such a disgrace to the Superman mythos (in your opinion)?

[SV Fan]

So does the channel that showed the Mets game replay SV another night, show episode 2 insted of three or just skip the epi?

They showed it on Saturday night, but whoever watched the show Saturday Night in NYC doesn't count for the final rating

[Mikelus]

Is funny how all these people love to watch a show they hate, when the logical thing to do is simply stop watching. If they can't stop, it means SV is still a decent show but they just don't want to admit it, the other option, they're masochists.

[Billy Batson]

So does the channel that showed the Mets game replay SV another night, show episode 2 insted of three or just skip the epi?

i believe any market that preempted the show for any sports do reair the episode at a later time be that after the sport game ended of a following day. I believe for the nyc market they aired the episode sometime this past saturday evening.

That's exactly what happen. Smallville was re-aired to Saturday.

That's a pretty harsh opinion of the show. Totally your prerogative to have, but then I don't really understand why you then said:

Why do you care if the show is being "tanked" if it's such a disgrace to the Superman mythos (in your opinion)?

AWH!!! Hey Serene! xoxo

Girl! you know I love Smallville.
Damn! :cmad: I can't vent my frustration.??
Now to return this to topic, Does anyone know the numbers for this week?
Thanks to nyc re-air, the numbers should be out of wack.

[KALEL114]

Smallville
- 2.238 million viewers
- 1.4/3 HH
- 0.9/4 A18-49
- 1.1/4 A18-34
- 0.7/3 W18-34

[Webhead2006]

no that was the over night numbers kalel.

[KALEL114]

Oops. Fixed.

[Webhead2006]

no problem kalel i was just trying to say 2.39 was including the whole nyc market who were watching the mets game. But yea the final numbers were not that bad either. Plus wait to we get the dvr/ live + 7 numbers for all episodes.

[KBX]

Its going to be a sad day when this show goes under 2 mil, but as long as they continue this pretty good season, it won't disappoint me as much....

[Webhead2006]

hopefully it wont, plus we have no clue what is going to happen between now and end of season. Heck they could easily move the show to another night, or pair the show with something to help boost the ratings.

[Webhead2006]

well the overnight numbers are in from tvbythenumers rating site and rabid last night scored a 2.30 million viewers.

[kal_el_526]

Its getting lower an lower, great. I figure by the tenth episode we may get under 2 mil. Not good, not good at all.

[Webhead2006]

well its not that bad. smallville is holding between 2.0-2.5 million. heck i read this rating bets their whole monday night block and its doing great in the demos it was in 3rd place for the night demo wise at 8pm and i still beating dollhouse too. Plus remember we still have the dvr numbers to look into, and its still selling great on itunes and dvds. for the cw to drop it on us the show would have to drop below 1millions on fridays. plus remember they are still doing way better then their past friday night block.

[kal_el_526]

Yeah I guess thats true

[\S/JcDc\S/]

well the overnight numbers are in from tvbythenumers rating site and rabid last night scored a 2.30 million viewers.

Maybe people thought it was Supernatural and changed the channel.

[Webhead2006]

lol yea so the show would have to be doing wrost then say gg/oth/mp/90210 for cw to dump it. Plus we know its the best numbers they have for fridays since dropping smackdown. Plus we have to remember it sells very well on itunes/dvds and all that which is a factor in things. If they drop smallville CW could kiss fridays goodbye from them and if that happens the network is in real bad shape.

[Lemaris]

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/12/dollhouse-premiere-18-49-rating-increases-to-a-1-5-via-dvr-hopeful-or-futile/30214

Good news kids:

Greatest 18-49 Demo Increase From DVR Viewing for Broadcast TV Shows 1.0 to 1.5, which means the viewership goes from 2.5 to 3.3 for Savior. I don't know about anybody else but that makes me feel better.

[Webhead2006]

yea thats great to see what the dvr/tivo/live +7 figures were for the premire i bet the others will end up being around 3million as final too.

[Lemaris]

yea thats great to see what the dvr/tivo/live +7 figures were for the premire i bet the others will end up being around 3million as final too.

Yeah I think that's pretty good all things considered.

[Webhead2006]

totally, cant wait to see how the rest of the season goes for live and the dvr numbers.

[Prison Mike]

smallville got higher numbers than supernatural

[Lemaris]

smallville got higher numbers than supernatural

I think if Smallville was still on Thursday both shows would be doing as well as this time last year if not better. Dumb move by a network Exec that does tons of stupid things.:whatever:

[Webhead2006]

oh yea totally we know the cw execs are stupid with their lineups. they should have kept smallville/supernatural together. moved top model to fridays to be by itself/with some other crap show. then leave their mond/tues same. wensday they could have put vapire diaries there with something and boom.

[Lemaris]

oh yea totally we know the cw execs are stupid with their lineups. they should have kept smallville/supernatural together. moved top model to fridays to be by itself/with some other crap show. then leave their mond/tues same. wensday they could have put vapire diaries there with something and boom.

They could also try and make some quality shows instead of the teeny bopper crap they have on all the time.

[Webhead2006]

oh yea totally dawn really needs to get out of oh i want cw to be lifetime/oxygen kick, no offense to fans of those channels and all that. But you need to cater to more demos then just females 18-45.

[B]

Heres the ratings thus far from Kryptonsite/TVbythenumbers:

Savior - 2.50
Metallo - 2.39 (2.50 initial overnight ratings)
Rabid - 2.30 (2.39 initial overnight ratings)

Heres a great article posted by Devoted to Smallville which notes that Smallville (along with Dollhouse) top the biggest DVR gains :cyclops:

The Live Feed (http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/10/dollhouse-shows-enormous-dvr-gains.html)

Heres the cliff notes from description of the article that DTS have posted :

There is a popular venezuelan saying: "they weren't dead, they were in a party", never this saying was more fitting for the Smallville and its audience. According to The Live Feed (http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/10/dollhouse-shows-enormous-dvr-gains.html) Smallville's season premiere "Savior" tops DVR gain list (alongside FOX "Dollhouse") with an increase of the 50% of audience that watched live. Smallville also is the biggest DVR gainer of The CW.

So people didn't forget to watching Smallivlle live, they were partying on Fridays, but thye did record it!

#1: Largest 18-49 Demo Increase From DVR Viewing for Broadcast TV Shows: 1.0 to 1.5
#4: Greatest % Of DVR Viewing for Broadcast TV Shows: 2,576 million Viewrs to 3,389 million.

From the way I am understanding all this, Smallville's ratings have only slightly dipped in people that watch the show live. However with the DVR viewing figures double what the shows overall ratings are. :up:

I think this is quite good news I think when you also consider Smallville brings in a solid number of dvd sales as well as the reported sharp increase of itunes episode sales as well. :up:

This might be good news for Dollhouse lovers as well, I've only seen a bit of 1 episode & I did like what I had seen so I don't really want it cancelled incase when I catch up on a few more episodes I end up liking it :woot:

[Dark Helmet]

Hopefully the CW cancels that vampire show & then bring Smallville back to its original slot for the 2nd half of the season if these ratings are showing them anything most are not watching this live on Friday anymore

[Prison Mike]

Vampire Diaries gets about 3.8 million viewers live (not counting the DVR numbers). So it won't cancelled anytime soon.

[Webhead2006]

yea they got lucky with that vampire show, with vampires the in thing right now, and it being within their main target demo of females 18-45 group, and ratings are solid for it its not going any where. Though personally like i said last night they should have put VD on wensdays with something, move top model to fridays, and kept smallville/supernatural a pair.

[KBX]

Good vampire shows like Moonlight and Blade get cancelled instantly while Vampire Diaries looks like it will last 5 years on the CW, jeeeez.....

[Webhead2006]

yea it funny how these things work out.

[Billy Batson]

Good vampire shows like Moonlight and Blade get cancelled instantly while Vampire Diaries looks like it will last 5 years on the CW, jeeeez.....

Come on be nice to VD, Vampire Diaries have the same winning formula that Roswell & Smallville had.

I can't believe Smallville is the number one DVR show. :up:
Hey, since Smallville have gone all animated series with the story lines and making things up as they go. Will it be possible for the Red, Gold Blur to make an appearance? :wow: Holy Moly!!! how cool would that be?

[Webhead2006]

captain marvel would be curious to see if he was brought into smallville. But he is probably offlimits like gl/batman/ww are.

[Billy Batson]

he is probably offlimits like gl/batman/ww are.

I don't know about that, he's nonexistent compare to those guys and I doubt the legality of the film can possibly be an issue. We all know there won't be a film. :csad:

If Smallvile give me a Red, Gold Blur episode. I'll be beside myself like the Rosetta episode.

:wow: Holy Moly there's a poll with Captain Marvel as an option!!??. http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=327471

[Webhead2006]

well if gl cant be used due to the film starting up, and ww for them wanting to do a film even though it isnt going to happen any time soon show you the film people have more pull over smallville guys. Why do you think we got guys like aquaman/cyborg/soon to be wonder twins over higher up guys.

[SV Fan]

Matt Mitovich on his twitter account just posted the overnight rating for Echo is 2.62M

[Prison Mike]

yay! it went up!

[Webhead2006]

yea i just posted that on echo thread, hopefully that is the final overnight numbers, darn other rating sites havent posted the overnights yet.

[SV Fan]

yea i just posted that on echo thread, hopefully that is the final overnight numbers, darn other rating sites havent posted the overnights yet.

tvbythenumbers has it as a 2.6M

On a side note Ugly Betty got a 5.1M rating for it's first hour(the show averaged 8M last season on thursdays). Basically both SV and UB lost about 35-40% of there audience moving to Friday

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Good vampire shows like Moonlight and Blade get cancelled instantly while Vampire Diaries looks like it will last 5 years on the CW, jeeeez.....

Shows on the CW don't require huge ratings.

SV would have been cancelled a looooong time ago if it were on a different network. I remember when L&C dropped under 14 million viewers and it was considered on its downslope :eek:

[Webhead2006]

well you do have to remember in the 90s there was less tv shows going around. compared to the cluster filled shows we have of tv. So any show is lucky these days to get between 2-15million.

[B]

Smallvilles ratings rose to a season high thus far on Friday:

"Echo" -2.62 (2.30 initial overnight ratings)


Kryptonsite posted a press release from The CW which acknowledges Smallville's improvement:

SMALLVILLE delivered its largest audience (2.62mil) and best adults 18-49 (1.1/4) of the season.

In fact, this was our best performance in the time period in these categories since our last Smackdown on 9/26/08.

Adults 18-34 remains steady at a 1.1/4.
SMALLVILLE ranked second in the hour among men 18-34 (1.3/6) and men 18-49 (1.3/5), beating the big 3.

Versus comedies a year ago, SMALLVILLE is up by 38% in adults 18-34, 117% in men 18-34, 38% in adults 18-49, 117% in men 18-49 and 46% in viewers



Heres another article that was posted by a member on The Planet concerning Smallville :

http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/ask-m...tory-2770.html (http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/ask-matt/ask-matt-ncis-twisted-history-2770.html)


Question: I was wondering what you thought of the CW's decision to move Smallville (http://www.cwtv.com/shows/smallville) to Friday nights and what that might mean for the show. Smallville has always been one of the network's top performers, and though it is in its ninth season, I can't believe the CW thought it would be a good idea to move it to the Friday night death slot and pair it with reruns of Top Model, no less. I thought Smallville and Supernatural made a terrific (and successful) pair on Thursday nights, and ever since the move, both shows have lost a big chunk of their viewers. I very much enjoyed the eighth season of Smallville and the ninth season has impressed me thus far. I was really hoping for a 10th. What do you think the chances of that are at this point?—Carrie

Matt Roush: According to my in-house expert who knows this show much better than I do, you shouldn’t count out a 10th season, regardless of the Friday numbers. The CW doesn’t expect much from any show airing on that night, and moving Smallville (which is still a valuable property in international sales and DVDs, etc.) was more about the network looking to its own future. The goal was not to punish Smallville, which holds its own wherever it airs, but to launch a new genre franchise in The Vampire Diaries, which has been (by CW standards) a major success story on Thursdays. There’s no question Smallville is closer to the end of its run than the beginning, but by all accounts, no one’s projecting an end date yet this season.





More or less is saying the jury is still out on whether or not Smallville gets a 10th season according to his in-house expert.

Don't expect a 10th season but at the same time don't rule it out.. 50-50.

[Webhead2006]

that tv guide article been posted already.

[B]

Not in here it hasn't as far as I can see..

[Webhead2006]

it was posted in the season 9 spoilers thread if i recall.

[AgentPat]

Folks, there's a reason the producers of SV went into its 9th season already talking about a 10th: The fourth episode of a potential tenth season would be SV's 200th episode. This is a HUGE milestone for any series as it makes it incredibly valuable in syndication. EVERYBODY stands to make a crap ton of coin from SV should the show make it that far. This includes CW. (http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/16/business/the-media-business-syndication-risk-open-to-networks.html) It trumps any argument that can be made about the show's lower ratings in CW's coveted 18-34W demo, or Miss O's obsession with schedule flow and network branding. SV is not Smackdown! Warner Entertainment had no financial interest in that show beyond ad sales.

Make no mistake, ratings ARE important, particularly those in a network's target demos, but when a show has survived as long as SV, other factors begin to come into play. As SV stands right now, I would imagine it's all about getting to that 200th episode. I think SV would have to consistently fall below the ratings of CW's Friday night comedies last year for it to be axed.

There's also stupid stuff like bragging rights, which studios love to crow about. If SV goes a full 10 seasons it will have produced 218 episodes, which surpasses Stargate SG1's 214, making SV the longest running genre show of ALL time (http://www.angelfire.com/trek/proutsy/).

[ChaoticPsylocke]

that would be amazing! id be so proud!

[B]

Folks, there's a reason the producers of SV went into its 9th season already talking about a 10th: The fourth episode of a potential tenth season would be SV's 200th episode. This is a HUGE milestone for any series as it makes it incredibly valuable in syndication. EVERYBODY stands to make a crap ton of coin from SV should the show make it that far. This includes CW. (http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/16/business/the-media-business-syndication-risk-open-to-networks.html) It trumps any argument that can be made about the show's lower ratings in CW's coveted 18-34W demo, or Miss O's obsession with schedule flow and network branding. SV is not Smackdown! Warner Entertainment had no financial interest in that show beyond ad sales.

Make no mistake, ratings ARE important, particularly those in a network's target demos, but when a show has survived as long as SV, other factors begin to come into play. As SV stands right now, I would imagine it's all about getting to that 200th episode. I think SV would have to consistently fall below the ratings of CW's Friday night comedies last year for it to be axed.

There's also stupid stuff like bragging rights, which studios love to crow about. If SV goes a full 10 seasons it will have produced 218 episodes, which surpasses Stargate SG1's 214, making SV the longest running genre show of ALL time (http://www.angelfire.com/trek/proutsy/).

Excellent post :up:

I think that The CW will do one more season provided the ratings stay solid, itunes sales remain good, the season 8 dvd sells well & the DVR figures continue to show people are watching the show.

200 episodes would be an incredible milestone, even 100 is a milestone that is tough to reach for most shows.

[Zing79]

Folks, there's a reason the producers of SV went into its 9th season already talking about a 10th: The fourth episode of a potential tenth season would be SV's 200th episode. This is a HUGE milestone for any series as it makes it incredibly valuable in syndication. EVERYBODY stands to make a crap ton of coin from SV should the show make it that far. This includes CW. (http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/16/business/the-media-business-syndication-risk-open-to-networks.html) It trumps any argument that can be made about the show's lower ratings in CW's coveted 18-34W demo, or Miss O's obsession with schedule flow and network branding. SV is not Smackdown! Warner Entertainment had no financial interest in that show beyond ad sales.

Make no mistake, ratings ARE important, particularly those in a network's target demos, but when a show has survived as long as SV, other factors begin to come into play. As SV stands right now, I would imagine it's all about getting to that 200th episode. I think SV would have to consistently fall below the ratings of CW's Friday night comedies last year for it to be axed.

There's also stupid stuff like bragging rights, which studios love to crow about. If SV goes a full 10 seasons it will have produced 218 episodes, which surpasses Stargate SG1's 214, making SV the longest running genre show of ALL time (http://www.angelfire.com/trek/proutsy/).

I was pretty disappointed when they changed the slot to Friday expecting the ratings drop (that inevitably came), but I should have been looking at the above.

SV could lose a fair amount of money to produce first run episodes in the next two years and still be considered a financial boon on the back end.

Just think of all the local TV stations around the world that would pay 1 million per year to air SV - given that SV would have nearly enough episodes to air 5 days a week for a full year without needing to air a repeat.

How many? What's a conservative number? 25? 50? 100?
That's a lot of money to be bringing in year after year for a show not costing any more to make.

South Park as an example...that show does not have nearly the number of first run viewers to justify the stupidly huge amount of money they paid Trey Parker and Matt Stone to keep producing the show. But why did they pay it? Because they're at 180+ episodes already and on any given day I can watch that show on 3 different stations in my own TV market.

I'm pretty sure that's why they backed up the proverbial cash truck for Welling. Welling is still not making ANYWHERE near what Trey and Matt got paid to keep South Park going.

And thinking of the above it wouldn't shock me to see them try and keep the show going past 10 years. I think it's safe to assume the only thing that would cause WB to want to have the show stop is Welling not wanting to do it anymore.

At this point Smallville might be worth as much if not more to WB than a Superman movie given how long it's been going.

[Webhead2006]

Totally should be interesting to see if 10th season does happen and what they plan for 200th episode. I agree with where superman film series is stuck right now do to all the legal stuff, they should if smallville gets 10th season let it go all out.

[Mikelus]

Final ratings for "Echo", 2.594 million viewers.

Smallville
- 2.594 million viewers
- 1.7/3 HH
- 1.1/4 A18-49
- 1.1/4 A18-34
- 0.8/3 W18-34

[Webhead2006]

thanks for the finals still good, outbeats premire by just a bit still.

[KBX]

Great post AgentPat, and I don't know about the rest of you but as long as Welling is signed for a season 10, Smallville will be getting a season 10.

The 200th episode, wonder what they will do if it ever happened.

[Prison Mike]

I guess the over night ratings were an overestimate. Still, it was better than the premiere at least.

[SV Fan]

I guess the over night ratings were an overestimate. Still, it was better than the premiere at least.

It also makes it the first time the show has been the 3rd best rated show on the network.

So far it's been 4th, 6th, 4th, 3rd in terms where the show stands in relation to the rest of the shows.

[Webhead2006]

nice.

[Tomwelling4sups]

At first I simply liked idea of a 10th season due to the even number lol, but the possibilities of reaching the 200th ep mark, or surpassing SG1 is too delicious a conquest to avoid. For the 200th ep they have to go all out its flight, tights, both, or bust! I'd be expecting a huge epic episode.

[Webhead2006]

oh and totally would be ironic to pass sg1 episode count now we have michael shanks being carter hall/hawkman.

[SV Fan]

At first I simply liked idea of a 10th season due to the even number lol, but the possibilities of reaching the 200th ep mark, or surpassing SG1 is too delicious a conquest to avoid. For the 200th ep they have to go all out its flight, tights, both, or bust! I'd be expecting a huge epic episode.

They could always do Lois finds out the secret in Episode 4. Other then Pete, people finding out Clark's secret on this show has been done very underwhelming(usually an afterthought in a season opener/closer)

[Webhead2006]

I wouldnt want lois to know clark is the hero before he is even officially superman with the suit and out in the public. But i do wonder what they would have in store for 200th episode.

[Prison Mike]

It also makes it the first time the show has been the 3rd best rated show on the network.

So far it's been 4th, 6th, 4th, 3rd in terms where the show stands in relation to the rest of the shows.

what are the other two best rated shows on the network?

[Webhead2006]

well one is the vampire diaries show, scoring between 3-4 million viewers(urrrggh smallville's old numbers). As for the other i am not sure its either top model on wensdays or possible supernatural.

[AgentPat]

Yeah, um, I love how my posts find their way to other sites almost verbatim. Did you need confirmation or something, "Luke?" Or does it just mean more coming from "Robert & Bill?" :o

Yes, 200 episodes is a bigger milestone for syndication than 100. The show could air five days a week for 40 weeks (over 9 months) and not be repeated once. The only drawback for SV is its slightly serialized nature, hence why procedurals and comedies often do better in syndication.

And no, the potential to break Stargate SG-1's record is not going to influence TPTB to renew SV. It's just something to crow about if it did, because Hollywood loves to brag.

[SV Fan]

what are the other two best rated shows on the network?

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134073

Create to Supes4ever

Standings for the Week of 9/21-9/25/09

1) The Vampire Diaries- 3.797 million
2) America's Next Top Model- 2.822 million
3) Supernatural- 2.661 million
4) Smallville- 2.573 million (Season Premiere)
5) One Tree Hill- 2.293 million
6) 90210- 1.997 million
7) Gossip Girl- 1.966 million
8) Melrose Place- 1.439 million
9) The Beautiful Life: TBL- 1.046 million (Canceled)

Standings for the Week of 9/28-10/2

1) The Vampire Diaries- 3.529 million
2) America's Next Top Model- 3.278 million
3) Supernatural- 2.595 million
4) One Tree Hill- 2.511 million
5) Gossip Girl- 2.361 million
6) Smallville- 2.238 million (Pre-empted by an MLB game)
7) 90210- 2.209 million
8) Melrose Place- 1.420 million

Standings for the Week of 10/5-10/9/09

1) The Vampire Diaries- 3.522 million
2) America's Next Top Model- 3.156 million
3) Supernatural- 2.467 million
4) Smallville- 2.279 million
5) One Tree Hill- 2.131 million
6) 90210- 2.089 million
7) Gossip Girl- 2.080 million
8) Melrose Place- 1.598 million

Standings for the Week of 10/12-10/16

1) The Vampire Diaries- 3.877 million
2) America's Next Top Model- 2.997 million
3) Smallville- - 2.594 million viewers
4) Supernatural- 2.582 million
5) One Tree Hill- 2.548 million
6) Gossip Girl- 2.358
7) 90210- 2.249
8) Melrose Place- 1.383 million

[Zing79]

Yeah, um, I love how my posts find their way to other sites almost verbatim. Did you need confirmation or something, "Luke?" Or does it just mean more coming from "Robert & Bill?" :o

Yes, 200 episodes is a bigger milestone for syndication than 100. The show could air five days a week for 40 weeks (over 9 months) and not be repeated once. The only drawback for SV is its slightly serialized nature, hence why procedurals and comedies often do better in syndication.

And no, the potential to break Stargate SG-1's record is not going to influence TPTB to renew SV. It's just something to crow about if it did, because Hollywood loves to brag.
QUE?

I'd like to be in the loop if at all possible. Further explanation might achieve entrance into said loop.

[AgentPat]

QUE?

I'd like to be in the loop if at all possible. Further explanation might achieve entrance into said loop.Eh, don't mind me. I just get a little bent when people do this:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/14/melrose-place-forecast-fan-angst-ahead/30371#comment-140104

And yeah, I saw the post dates. Not sure what's up with that, but mine was first.

[Prison Mike]

plagarism!