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Cmill216
12-15-2006, 04:49 PM
Saw this last week. Sucked MIGHTILY.

The lack of chemistry between Foxx and Farrell was evident.

Assassin
12-16-2006, 01:40 AM
The Mojo race was nice, but I understand why they cut it, and agree with the initial decision.

i didnt understand that, is it from the tv show?

black_dust
12-17-2006, 08:51 AM
Rented it last night.

WTF??? This movie sucked ass how the hell did it ever get made?? Just shows how much marketing can hype up a film

Rez
12-17-2006, 08:59 AM
Still haven't seen this. Want to, though. Would you guys reccomend the TE or the Extended?

xwolverine2
12-17-2006, 09:24 AM
why is this thread still alive?

this movie deserves to to burned

Secret_Riddle
12-17-2006, 09:28 AM
i agree. it was easily worst movie i saw this year.

black_dust
12-17-2006, 01:16 PM
why is this thread still alive?

this movie deserves to to burned
I had to bring it back :p :cmad: :ninja:

Hunter Rider
12-17-2006, 01:49 PM
i agree. it was easily worst movie i saw this year.

Did you see X3 ?:huh:

Cmill216
12-17-2006, 02:04 PM
Did you see X3 ?:huh:

IMO, Miami Vice makes X3 look like Return of the King. :huh:

SolidSnakeMGS
12-17-2006, 02:06 PM
I enjoyed Miami Vice a lot more than X3, but of course I hated X3.

Hunter Rider
12-17-2006, 02:10 PM
IMO, Miami Vice makes X3 look like Return of the King. :huh:

And to think i loved you:csad::oldrazz:

L.A.
12-17-2006, 02:11 PM
IMO, Miami Vice makes X3 look like Return of the King. :huh:
With your SR avvy your credibility does down the tubes!!! :down

Cmill216
12-17-2006, 02:17 PM
With your SR avvy your credibility does down the tubes!!! :down

Damn. There goes my day. :dry:

And to think i loved you:csad::oldrazz:

....I'm telling the wifey. :wow:

Hunter Rider
12-17-2006, 02:32 PM
....I'm telling the wifey. :wow:

I meant in a heteromanly way,get in touch with your sensitive side dammit:cmad:
and Lilly knows im all about the poon:heart:

Cmill216
12-17-2006, 02:37 PM
and Lilly knows im all about the ding-a-ling:heart:

We know. :wow:

Hunter Rider
12-17-2006, 02:38 PM
Hunter you are a god and Lilly is your lucky wife:up:

Why thank you:yay:

Cmill216
12-17-2006, 02:41 PM
Changing people's words and stuff is not cool in school. :o

Hunter Rider
12-17-2006, 02:43 PM
You did it first nananananana:cmad::oldrazz:

Cmill216
12-17-2006, 02:45 PM
Well!Well!Well! You did it last so you're an ass! :mad:

Hunter Rider
12-17-2006, 02:46 PM
You did it first so your bladder will burst:ninja:

Cmill216
12-17-2006, 02:47 PM
See, this is what happens when you open a discussion thread on a horrible movie.

Hunter Rider
12-17-2006, 02:48 PM
The movie was like the 5th best of the year:huh:

Cmill216
12-17-2006, 02:53 PM
The movie was like the 5th best of the year:huh:

.......:eek: Wha?!

I thought it was dreadful. From the opening scenes between Foxx and Farrell, there was absolutely no chemistry, I couldn't buy Foxx's performance at all, and both were completely miscast IMO. Has nothing to do with it being a remake or whatever, they just simply didn't work well with one another. And anytime I watch a film and can actually feel how the acting is off, then the entire film suffers accordingly. The action stuff was great, but there wasn't a whole lot of it.

It's amazing to see how all the set troubles actually managed to creep into the final cut in their own way.

Hunter Rider
12-17-2006, 02:57 PM
.......:eek: Wha?!

I thought it was dreadful. From the opening scenes between Foxx and Farrell, there was absolutely no chemistry, I couldn't buy Foxx's performance at all, and both were completely miscast IMO. Has nothing to do with it being a remake or whatever, they just simply didn't work well with one another. And anytime I watch a film and can I actually feel how the acting is off, then the entire film suffers accordingly. The action stuff was great, but there wasn't a whole lot of it.

It's amazing to see how all the set troubles actually managed to creep into the final cut in their own way.

I thought they worked pretty well together,not as well as Cruise/Foxx did but still enough for it to work.
The only problem i found was the drug runner lingo seemed a bit forced but i loved the insight into the deals and the stress of being undercover as well as the relationship with Crockett and Isabella which i thought was subtly done as it evolved

black_dust
12-17-2006, 03:03 PM
No the whole interaction with everyone in the movie was off, i didnt feel the true love between fox and that other bird that blew up. they just seemed to show it by having them all shag each other every 30 mins.

I would take x3 over miami any day! Oh yeah was Colin ment to be American in this? i thought he did a better job on Tiger land and Phone booth with his accent

Cmill216
12-17-2006, 03:05 PM
I thought they worked pretty well together,not as well as Cruise/Foxx did but still enough for it to work.

See, that's the thing. I thought Foxx was terrific in Collateral and of course Ray. But here, I did not buy his performance as an undercover narcotics officer or whatever the flip he was supposed to be.

The only problem i found was the drug runner lingo seemed a bit forced

Yup.

but i loved the insight into the deals and the stress of being undercover

Eh. Been there, done that.

as well as the relationship with Crockett and Isabella which i thought was subtly done as it evolved

Thought there was a bit too much of it. I mean, I liked how their relationship ended and how they payed it off, but I wasn't thrilled with the overall execution of it.

Hunter Rider
12-17-2006, 03:25 PM
See, that's the thing. I thought Foxx was terrific in Collateral and of course Ray. But here, I did not buy his performance as an undercover narcotics officer or whatever the flip he was supposed to be.

I honestly didn;t have any trouble buying into him,he's got the cocky demanor to come off in the role IMO




Eh. Been there, done that.

not as well done IMO



Thought there was a bit too much of it. I mean, I liked how their relationship ended and how they payed it off, but I wasn't thrilled with the overall execution of it.

I liked how they sort of built all the consequences off those 2 and then paid it off well at the end

Hunter Rider
12-17-2006, 03:25 PM
I would take x3 over miami any day!
The only thing i'd take X3 over is having my balls sandblasted:cwink:

black_dust
12-17-2006, 03:26 PM
The only thing i'd take X3 over is having my balls sandblasted:cwink:
Ooooo sexy ;) :ninja:

ChrisBaleBatman
12-18-2006, 08:49 PM
IMO, Miami Vice makes X3 look like Return of the King. :huh:

Other way around. ROTK was a good movie, wasn't it?



t's amazing to see how all the set troubles actually managed to creep into the final cut in their own way.


I heard they got along great. They seem to be great friends, actually. There was a cool interview they had that really kinda highlighted that.

I thought they worked pretty well together,not as well as Cruise/Foxx did but still enough for it to work.
The only problem i found was the drug runner lingo seemed a bit forced but i loved the insight into the deals and the stress of being undercover as well as the relationship with Crockett and Isabella which i thought was subtly done as it evolved

I dunno, the lingo seemed to work I think. I do think some people can get lost on it, because it's stuff that most people don't hear everyday. I know THE WIRE, another crime drama, gets some beef b/c of the lingo....which is part of the dead anyways.

I would take x3 over miami any day! Oh yeah was Colin ment to be American in this? i thought he did a better job on Tiger land and Phone booth with his accent

Sounded like he had a southern accent to me, in the film.

See, that's the thing. I thought Foxx was terrific in Collateral and of course Ray. But here, I did not buy his performance as an undercover narcotics officer or whatever the flip he was supposed to be.


Well, compared to those roles....Tubbs here is simply colder and just a no-nonsense guy. With Foxx having been a comedian, I think alot of people expected a wise-cracking Tubbs.

I thoght X3 just ****ed the pooch big time. Miami Vice might not be the greatest thing ever, but it can be redeemed. I honestly don't know if the X-Men franchise can be saved from the mess they created. I mean, who the **** is dead now? Who **** has powers? What was the mother****ing point of killing off and taking away anyones powers if they'll get them back next film?

I dunno.....I just think Miami Vice has more stuff, and a better story, happening.

Of coruse, they're different genres. Being an R-rated film is already a disadvantage in a world where an animated film about talking roaches can rule.

JTStarkiller
12-18-2006, 10:35 PM
Other way around. ROTK was a good movie, wasn't it?

Yeah, I think that's what he meant. X3 was bad, but looks amazing when compared to Miami Vice. I don't agree, but that's what he meant, I think.

ChrisBaleBatman
12-18-2006, 11:34 PM
Yeah, I never watched ROTK.

I watched about half of Two Towers, but just saw a bit of Fellowship.

Eventually, I probably buy those DVD's I guess.

Punisher 04
12-19-2006, 07:38 AM
I like Michael Mann movies and loved the t.v. show, but the movie was very slow paced, with too much romance and not enough action. The casting, plot, story was not horrible just boring. I didn't like it 4/10.:down

BatJeff7786
12-20-2006, 12:21 AM
This movie is the next Heat for Mann. It's a flop right now, but in a few years, more people will appreciate it.

xwolverine2
12-20-2006, 07:40 AM
This movie is the next Heat for Mann. It's a flop right now, but in a few years, more people will appreciate it.
LOL!... funny

SolidSnakeMGS
12-20-2006, 11:07 AM
LOL!... funny

Like your tastes in movies.

You like the Underworld movies for chrissakes...not to mention that godawful Fantastic Four piece of crap. I think MV just goes waaaaay over your head.

Hunter Rider
12-20-2006, 11:10 AM
Like your tastes in movies.

You like the Underworld movies for chrissakes...not to mention that godawful Fantastic Four piece of crap. I think MV just goes waaaaay over your head.
I don't get this Snake,i enjoyed MV,i also enjoyed both the Underworld movies,i have a wide range of taste,my fav movies this year range from Casino Royale to Brick to the Prestige, it doesn't make someone a "idiot movie fan"liking some cool action and a story that you maybe didn't like, not saying you said those exact words but that is the vibe given off

xwolverine2
12-20-2006, 11:14 AM
I don't get this Snake,i enjoyed MV,i also enjoyed both the Underworld movies,i have a wide range of taste,my fav movies this year range from Casino Royale to Brick to the Prestige, it doesn't make someone a "idiot movie fan"liking some cool action and a story that you maybe didn't like, not saying you said those exact words but that is the vibe given off
stop replying to his posts dammit........ dont you see he hates EVERYTHING.
all his post in threads are all the same...

he only worships SR... (*cough*)

SolidSnakeMGS
12-20-2006, 11:24 AM
stop replying to his posts dammit........ dont you see he hates EVERYTHING.
all his post in threads are all the same...

he only worships SR... (*cough*)

Umm...you're the one posting hate in this thread, Bucky.

And I have very particular and downright picky (for the most part) tastes in film. And if I don't like something, I am going to say it. I have that right.

I think some people think this site is just about gushing over everything, and people get mad at the skeptics or people that have different opinions.

I don't hate everything. I hate X3, Fantastic Four, and Michael Bay. That's about it. And the occasional crazed Spiderman fan. I have been much more skeptical recently because this year, I have been disappointed with a lot of movies.

And SR was an OK movie to me, filled with great moments but not great as a whole. So you're pretty much wrong about the SR worship.

SolidSnakeMGS
12-20-2006, 11:26 AM
And Hunter, I don't mean to give off that vibe. It's just some of the crap xwolverine says makes no sense. He hates Scorsese, but likes crap like FF. He hates Miami Vice, but likes Underworld.

Don't mean to be negative, its been a very rough and expensive morning for me, and I have very busy work until midnight to look forward to later.

Hunter Rider
12-20-2006, 11:32 AM
And Hunter, I don't mean to give off that vibe. It's just some of the crap xwolverine says makes no sense. He hates Scorsese, but likes crap like FF. He hates Miami Vice, but likes Underworld.

Don't mean to be negative, its been a very rough and expensive morning for me, and I have very busy work until midnight to look forward to later.

Thats cool man,ive always found you a good poster and i respect your right to say your view,we clearly differ on some things and are of likemind on others but all i'm saying is that i'm cool with you saying "I don't like Underworld" or anything i like for that matter just try not to word it as if i am an idiot for liking it as i assure you i am not:cwink:

Good luck with the rest of your day man and i feel 24 is one thing we will end up agreeing on:yay:

xwolverine2
12-20-2006, 11:33 AM
And Hunter, I don't mean to give off that vibe. It's just some of the crap xwolverine says makes no sense. He hates Scorsese, but likes crap like FF. He hates Miami Vice, but likes Underworld.

Don't mean to be negative, its been a very rough and expensive morning for me, and I have very busy work until midnight to look forward to later.
SO?! wtf is your big problem with that?

to me Miami Vice is the worst movie of the year.... and scorcese doesnt interest me at all.

and when the hell have i said i liked FF???:huh:

they make action movies for a reason.... even movies like RE or UW are aimed to entertain people. OK FINE i understand YOU werent entertained, but i was, along with MANY other people. If you have a prob. with that then too bad.

SolidSnakeMGS
12-20-2006, 11:34 AM
Oops, you're right...I meant the Resident Evil movies. My bad.

SolidSnakeMGS
12-20-2006, 11:38 AM
And I dug Miami Vice. Not as good as I hoped, but I liked the rawness and the look of the film. I thought Farrell was great and Foxx was just ok, but the story indeed lacked.

And for it to be the worst film of the year? Come on! With crap like Pink Panther, X3, that Tyler Perry movie, etc. There's a lot worse out there!

xwolverine2
12-20-2006, 11:44 AM
And I dug Miami Vice. Not as good as I hoped, but I liked the rawness and the look of the film. I thought Farrell was great and Foxx was just ok, but the story indeed lacked.

And for it to be the worst film of the year? Come on! With crap like Pink Panther, X3, that Tyler Perry movie, etc. There's a lot worse out there!
i didnt bother seeing pink panther, or w/e the hell "that tyler Perry movie" is...
but i loved X3...

and yes... i cant seem to think of a worse movie that came out this year.
unless bloodrayne was 2006:huh:

ChrisBaleBatman
12-22-2006, 07:53 PM
BloodRayne counts b/c it came out in January, plus there was Big Momma's House 2, Ultraviolet, Underworld 2, The Wicker Man, Snakes on a Plane..........these are all far worse film than Miami Vice.

ChrisBaleBatman
12-26-2006, 02:19 PM
bump

ChrisBaleBatman
01-13-2007, 03:57 PM
bump?

Castlewood
01-13-2007, 04:30 PM
Honestly, I really appreciate this movie. It has an awesome feel to it. The music, the clothes, the acting, the intensity. It feels VERY MUCH like the TV show to me. Everyone keeps saying that the movie has nothing to do with the show, and as a person who LOVED the show, I think the movie compliments the same ''styles'', only in the 2006 world. If the show was known for its music, its clothes, its styles.... How do you take those elements and make them MODERN??
I think if the show were to be created in 2006, and shown on TV for the first time in the 2006 world, we would see the exact same things we saw in the movie.
The problem is, people don't have an open mind, and they only want to see the 80's show, and anything that is different is NOT Miami Vice to them.
To me, Miami Vice ISN'T just ''the 1980's''... The 80's is just the background for the show, just like 2006 is the background for the movie.

So in essence, I think the movie should NOT be compared to the show in terms of it's TIME, but in terms of its character, its music, its intensity, its clothes.... The TV show was a representation of the CULTURE of the 1980's, and if you're going to make a movie of it in 2006, then that has to be a representation of the culture in 2006.... Otherwise, you get something like ''A Very Brady Sequel''.... and its just a bunch of modern actors trying to make everything like the 1980's again, and the 80's have come and gone. You can't have Colin Farrell living on a boat with a freakin' alligator named ''Elvis''. It doesn't fit in 2006, and that's why Michael Mann didn't do it.
In fact, as much as I loved the show, I think the freakin' movie is BETTER.

And plus, why would you even question Michael Mann's vision as a director, when he was the damn producer of the original show? It's not like he took his baby and crapped all over it, like you all think. He took his TV show, and he made it modern, realistic, and BETTER than the show. Bottom line.

ChrisBaleBatman
01-17-2007, 11:42 AM
It also looks like a sequel will probably get made too. The movie seems to have done well for itself, and the players want another round. I think it'll happen.

ChrisBaleBatman
02-10-2007, 07:31 PM
I just saw the episode this film was inspired by.....SMUGGLER'S BLUES...and man, it's easy to see the connection. Crockett and Tubbs were pretty serious dudes in the episode.

Mr. Socko
02-10-2007, 07:53 PM
I personally just did not enjoy Miami Vice that much. I liked Collateral much more.

Secret_Riddle
02-10-2007, 07:56 PM
Just watched Heat again today, and i watched collateral last night, and wow. Michael Mann must not have been feeling well throughout this whole movies production.

Your in my top 5 fave directors Mann, please blow me away again.

Secret_Riddle
02-10-2007, 08:02 PM
This movie is the next Heat for Mann. It's a flop right now, but in a few years, more people will appreciate it.

Yah right, I loved Heat when i saw it, and i love it now. I went through Miami Vice just thinking that it was a perfect example of a movie that did not live up to its trailer...sad to say but i think its true.

This is just my opinion tho:).

Mr. Credible
02-11-2007, 04:02 AM
i saw this again a few nights ago and hated it more than ever before... i honestly can't see how anyone could like it, even considering some kind of blind loyalty to micheal mann... this movie was flat out aweful in almost every way.

the camera work was downright pitiful, and (i know it was shot digitally, but that doesn't make it right) it looks like a high schooler shot it for his movie class... the cinematography was just balls all the way through.

the sound was crap, too. the music was great, but the sound effects were... incosistant to say the least. sometimes you couldn't even hear punches land (for exaple) and it didn't help.

the dialogue was bad. i would have thought he'd have slipped a few great lines in there, but nope. and driving around and looking "moody" for 2 hours doesn't replace dialogue, or make your character's cool... it makes the movie boring. very, very boring.

the "action" was garbage. how people give that shootout at the end any kind of recognition is beyond me. it looked so amateur i could hardly believe it.

if you're going to put 17 sex scenes in your movie, at least make them good sex scenes. otherwise, what's the point? (and no, i don't just mean, "put more boobies") althought that would have helped, i mean, make them mean something, or have some kind of pertinance to the story.

all in all, this movie was just plain crap. and i honestly can't see why anyone enjoyed it.

ShaneHelms
02-11-2007, 08:57 AM
I am a huge Michael Mann fan, but i was honestly bored to tears with this movie.

ChrisBaleBatman
02-13-2007, 05:06 PM
I think the biggest mistake made by audiences was thinking it was an action film. It's not.

And, as to "not living up to the trailer".......I mean, trailer's a meant to create hype. The existence of trailers are to draw people in and get viewers. Otherwise, no film would ever release a trailer. It's why Spider-man 3 is probably already securing tons and tons of tickets simply by hyping audiences up.

I think it's a good film. Listening to the commentary also provides insight on Mann's process in making the film. It's probably a film that also suffered from poor editing as well. The Director's Cut was better than the original, too.

The sequel should be interesting, I think. I'd imagine the sequel will want to amp the action up to the max just to shut people up.

LastSunrise1981
02-13-2007, 06:46 PM
I really liked Miami Vice too. I really enjoyed the gritty nature and how captured the essence of two undercover cops. Is it Michael Mann's best film? No. Far from it. I rank Heat and Collateral way above Miami Vice. However, Vice is a great film in my opinion and I was able to keep my attention for the two full hours it was on the screen.

I truly believe some of the audience and hardcore fans went in expecting a two hour action film with corny one liners, an 80's soundtrack, and some more cool references to the television show. I will say one of my main gripes about the film was that they didn't incorporate Phil Collin's "In The Air Tonight" during the shoot-out or the drive to the trailer park.

Jamie and Colin didn't seem to have much chemistry together. I would've had Terrance Howard play the role of Tubbs if I were casting.

But as a whole? I really enjoyed the film, I loved the camera work, loved the gritty nature of it, and the guy who played the main villain really stole the show in my opinion.

Halofan1
02-13-2007, 08:59 PM
The Director's Cut was better than the original, too.

The original is the better cut. The original had a better opening and didn't misuse "In the Air Tonight" like the "Directors" cut did (Mann says in the commentary the theatrical is his cut, the UDC was just an alternate cut of the film.) I did like the extra scene with Trudy/Tubbs and Crockett/Isabella though. The Unrated cut is just around to lip service people who whined "It lacked action" and "wasn't like the TV show" (which it in fact is.)

This is probably the most misunderstood film of this year. It's one of those that doesn't spell everything out for you and requires you think about it as the film goes along. It was a risk Mann took, and I applaud him for it. His best film? No, that is clearly Heat. One of the best films of last year? Second only to Children of Men IMO.

Agentsands77
02-13-2007, 09:40 PM
MIAMI VICE was terribly disappointing. As a Michael Mann fan, I expected more. I didn't give a damn about whether it was close to the TV show or not, but I did give a damn as to whether it was a good film. And it wasn't.

The biggest problem with MIAMI VICE isn't the poor dialogue, it's the fact that Crockett and Tubbs are unlikeable cardboard characters with no depth or personality (unless a furrowed brow passes for personality). That damns the film. I don't care about the story because I don't care about the characters, I care even less about the love story, and even the action doesn't really have a whole lot of drama to it (though it is excellently shot).


Otherwise, Mann's visual style is beautiful to behold, but it can't hold up an otherwise uninvolving film.

Mr. Credible
02-13-2007, 10:43 PM
i think that truthfully, if nobody outside of production knew that mann was directing this, like, if they kept it a secret, and maybe told people that paul anderson, or uwe boll, or someone like that had directed this film, and released it the same as it is now, it'd be one of the most hated films out there. it really is an awful film, through and through. but just because it has mann's name on it, people give it all the excuses in the world.

Mr. Credible
02-13-2007, 10:44 PM
The original is the better cut. The original had a better opening and didn't misuse "In the Air Tonight" like the "Directors" cut did (Mann says in the commentary the theatrical is his cut, the UDC was just an alternate cut of the film.) I did like the extra scene with Trudy/Tubbs and Crockett/Isabella though. The Unrated cut is just around to lip service people who whined "It lacked action" and "wasn't like the TV show" (which it in fact is.)

This is probably the most misunderstood film of this year. It's one of those that doesn't spell everything out for you and requires you think about it as the film goes along. It was a risk Mann took, and I applaud him for it. His best film? No, that is clearly Heat. One of the best films of last year? Second only to Children of Men IMO.

lol! what was to think about?! this movie was about as straight forward as they come!

Halofan1
02-13-2007, 11:24 PM
i think that truthfully, if nobody outside of production knew that mann was directing this, like, if they kept it a secret, and maybe told people that paul anderson, or uwe boll, or someone like that had directed this film, and released it the same as it is now, it'd be one of the most hated films out there. it really is an awful film, through and through. but just because it has mann's name on it, people give it all the excuses in the world.

We don't know that for sure since they probably would have directed it differently.

hey yo its sean
02-14-2007, 03:15 AM
i think that truthfully, if nobody outside of production knew that mann was directing this, like, if they kept it a secret, and maybe told people that paul anderson, or uwe boll, or someone like that had directed this film, and released it the same as it is now, it'd be one of the most hated films out there. it really is an awful film, through and through. but just because it has mann's name on it, people give it all the excuses in the world.

Exaggeration or not, that's just stupid.

RedIsNotBlue
02-14-2007, 04:11 AM
This movie sucked hard. I loved Heat and Collateral but I don't know what the **** happened here. I like watching movies to the end no matter how boring or awful but I really struggled to make it to the end of this one.

daywalker2007
02-14-2007, 05:10 AM
the biggest mistake was not using Tim Truman or Jan Hammer to do the score,

some might say jan hammer's score is too 80s,
but if you listen to his 2006 score to the documentary "Cocaine Cowboys"

that score would have suited this new movie perfectly!

in fact, i think even Tim Truman's score from the last season of miami vice would have been good enough just to ensure the soundtrack was up to standard

you have to remember, a key part of the original shows success was the music they used and a majority of the time it was Jan hammer's instrumental music which captured the mood of the characters. In particular "crockett's theme" which sadly was nowhere to be heard in the new movie apart from a 3 note rendition heard in Klaus badelt's AR500 track.

in this movie, i dont think mann used music correctly and it just felt wayward at times, especially compared to Heat or collateral.

Watch collateral, and see Tom Cruise burst into the club and just kill everyone while "ready steady go" by Paul oakenfeld is playing! Its awesome! Now thats good choice of music! I didnt see any of that in Miami Vice!

Now listen to this Tim truman Miami vice season 5 score track here called "Helicopter".

www.myspace.com/timtruman (http://www.myspace.com/timtruman)

This was made in 1989 yet sounds still awesome! i could imagine this playing in the new movie and it would bring an extra boost to the movie.

The instrumental music in Heat was great, in Miami vice 2006 not so great.

maybe Mann can come back and do another one and just change things around.

Overall, not his best effort, i prefer Collateral by miles.

Secret_Riddle
02-14-2007, 08:01 AM
Is Mann even going to direct the sequal? if hes not then i probably wont even see it.

RedIsNotBlue
02-14-2007, 11:55 AM
There's going to be a sequel??? How?? The movie bombed and got horrible reviews.

LastSunrise1981
02-14-2007, 12:33 PM
There's going to be a sequel??? How?? The movie bombed and got horrible reviews.

The movie didn't bomb. Yes, it was horribly received, but it made it's budget back. It just didn't do as well as it was originally expected to do. In a sense it's like the Punisher.

Through the movie tickets and DVD sells I'm sure it went over the 163 million that it made worldwide.

SolidSnakeMGS
02-14-2007, 01:51 PM
i think that truthfully, if nobody outside of production knew that mann was directing this, like, if they kept it a secret, and maybe told people that paul anderson, or uwe boll, or someone like that had directed this film, and released it the same as it is now, it'd be one of the most hated films out there. it really is an awful film, through and through. but just because it has mann's name on it, people give it all the excuses in the world.

Very retarded statement and makes your name quite unfitting. Uh, hum...maybe people DID like the film?

Secret_Riddle
02-14-2007, 01:58 PM
It was pretty split. The general consensus, as far as i understand, was that people either dug this film, or hated it, there doesnt seem to be an in between.

I can tell Mann made this film, because of the direction, unfortunately, imo its his weakest film by far.

RedIsNotBlue
02-14-2007, 10:16 PM
The movie didn't bomb. Yes, it was horribly received, but it made it's budget back. It just didn't do as well as it was originally expected to do. In a sense it's like the Punisher.

Through the movie tickets and DVD sells I'm sure it went over the 163 million that it made worldwide.

No it bombed. When a movie struggles to make back its budget that is a bomb to me. And no it is nothing like The Punisher because the Punisher didn't cost **** to make and the same for the sequel. And just for the record studios pay more attention to the domestic numbers and it completely bombed there. They got lucky around the world I don't see why they would gamble even more money on a sequel. When they see a 135 million budget movie only make 63 million back domestically trust me they ain't happy. And if you gonna whip out that movie tickets dvd sales defense then you also have remember that the studios don't get all of the money made from those things.

Cmill216
02-14-2007, 10:21 PM
When they see a 135 million budget movie only make 63 million back domestically trust me they ain't happy.

That pretty much sums it up right there.

ChrisBaleBatman
02-16-2007, 01:53 PM
The reviews on this film was pretty much split. Either you liked it or you didn't, that seems to be the way it goes with this film it appears. I mean, other films might be seen as "meh" or "all right"....but there seems to be no in-between with this film.

The sequel will happen, all the big players WANT one......Mann, Farrell and Foxx all want a sequel.....they're not light weights, so eventually...if they really do wanna get a sequel done, it'll get done.

The movie didn't bomb. There was report that came out a while back on the past years biggest bombs at the box office and Miami Vice was no where to be seen on that list. The movie seems to have done fine.

Something that stands out is also how the DVD release went down. No Special Edition! It was a single disc thin special featured DVD. Usually, FOR ME, that means the studio plans on coming out with another release later down the line......like right before the sequel comes out. So, the studio seems to have a real confidence in the franchise.

Michael Mann could direct the sequel. That seems to be the REAL question, simply b/c he's never done a sequel before. He'll defintely write it and produce it at the very least......but I think he's gotta come back.

The production cost for the film was balloned by Katrina. The Hurricane weather and conditions hampered the film for a quite a while. And yeah, that's something that's been rumored too....which is obvious, that the budget would be a lot lower for the sequel.

But, that's not a problem....I think, b/c the sequel would ALL be in Miami, as opposed to filming on location in the Dominican Republic and other locales across the world. Filiming all in Miami, and no major Hurricane set backs, alone could cut budget costs a ton from the first one.

And Foxx and Farrell could take a pay cut too.

Bottomline, the film didn't do too bad....and I hear the dvd rentals are solid, we'll probably get a better idea with the DVD sales come out. But, when you got Jamie Foxx claiming there's going to be a sequel a month or two back, and Michael Mann claiming a sequel a while back, and Foxx and Farrell admitting they're ready for another go.....I think it'll get done.

nocomics
02-16-2007, 01:59 PM
Though it wasn't a great movie it wasn't a terrible movie neither. It could of used a little more action to help it out. I haven't seen Directors Cut yet so I will have to see it just to see if it makes it more enjoyable.
I liked the grainy look of the film,just made it visually a decent film. I too agree I liked Collateral,and Heat much better. I would of liked to seen Heat shot in this style of filming. I think it would of set the mood better.
I'll assume they will do a sequel at some point,but rather them not.

ChrisBaleBatman
02-16-2007, 04:04 PM
Well, something I hear is that the film had tons of stuff cut out. Supposedy a shootout was too.

Warhammer
02-16-2007, 04:54 PM
I liked Miami Vice.
It's not in my Top 50, but it's something that I can enjoy.

ChrisBaleBatman
02-16-2007, 05:03 PM
The only problem I had with the film were sort of minor.

Like, the FBI leak. I'm pretty sure Crockett and Tubbs were going to figure out who the leak was......they narrowed down that the leak was in the FBI washington divison.....I assume whatever subplot was there had been cut out as well in editing. Same with the Neptunes subplot.....I'd be interested to see how'd that fit in.

I liked how the scope of the film expaned into how large the drug trade is...but all in Miami is a must (which Mann guarantees) next time.

Yeah, I really did like it though.

Batty Belfry
02-12-2008, 08:32 PM
With much trepidation, I sat down to watch this movie, and found it pleasantly surprising experience. Overall, I found it great, and a fitting updating of the original ideal. Visually stunning!

millennium movies
02-12-2008, 11:52 PM
I really love this movie and hope Mann will really go for a round two!

Apollo
02-13-2008, 12:01 AM
i just watched it....eh i give it a 5.5/10

i wasn't able to watch the very end, because it started skipping like crazy.

f*** you very much blockbuster :down :mad:

millennium movies
02-13-2008, 12:04 AM
You missed the shootout, great!

JTStarkiller
02-13-2008, 12:11 AM
Especially the Director's Cut version, which uses "In the Air Tonight." :up:

daywalker2007
02-13-2008, 06:22 AM
Especially the Director's Cut version, which uses "In the Air Tonight." :up:

the movie had some really crap music.

i'd rather have this music by the master himself,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IiZTsMx5is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11cbekusNh8&feature=related


than any of the crap music they used in the movie.

millennium movies
02-13-2008, 08:10 AM
To each his own frankly, but in the film i found the music to be perfect in sync with the storyline. In Mann i trust!