Casting Thread for WATCHMEN (Suggestions and Announcements!!!)

[Shifty]

I would think you can get them to sign an NDA, but also, I figure that some of them realise thats what the story is about and are intelligent enough to not give away the big ending.

The probvlem comes that we automatically assume that no press sceenings means crap movie these days. The other thing, of course, being that Rorscach's ID, in terms of the overall story, isnt pivotal, so it may just not get mentioned.

Personally, i think its important for whoever plays Kovacs to be somewhat easily recognised, so when the mask comes off, they(the audience) can instantly recognise him as the guy with the sign. Im not sure that bright ginger hair is enough

I've always said to cast two people. A known actor would do the voice of Rorschach and another actor, known or not would be Walter Kovacs. So if somebody goes on IMDb they can see Rorschach and down at the bottom is Walter Kovacs played by two different actors.

^ Was wondering about Sixth Sense.....was there anything legal preventing press from giving out the secret? In a contract before seeing the movie maybe. Anyone know?


Movie critics won't spoil twists like that.

Or Better yet , don't announce who is going to play him. At ALL .Keep it a secret right till the end. Remember how nobody knew that KEvin Spacey was playing in Se7en right until the last moment.

I'd love it if WB & Zach took that approach with Rorschach. Just cast someone a good actor ( known or unknown doesn't matter) but keep it a secret right till the end. Of course the geeks will instantly know who Walter is but for the general audience it would be a great surprise to find out who Rorschach is. :woot:

I'd think it would leak somehow from someone on the crew, if it was a known actor. I didn't check out the Batman Begins spoilers, was the twist at the end leaked? I just think that someone could snap a picture of the "unannounced star" and put it on the internet.

That too. I just think too many people panic about the audience recognising the actor thats been cast as Rorscach as the guy with the sign. whether you tell them its Kovacs, or tell them nothing, just dont say its rorscach. (one thing I would say: if you dont mention it at all, if you cast an unknown its not gonna register: "thats the sign guy", and if its a known name, people may think "why does (for argument sake) David caruso keep appearing? he wasnt credited"

Go with one actor to do voiceover and but the actor who plays Kovacs also does Rorschach. Then when the credits play in the movie at the end list "so-and-so" as Rorschach (Voice), "that other guy" Walter Kovacs/Rorschach. Outside the geek community nobody knows who was inside the Darth Vader suit in the original Star Wars movies but they can tell you James Earl Jones did the voice.

[Antonello Blueberry]

As I said numerous times, if they cast a celebrity as Rorschach expect him to be heavily deformed by make up as Kovacs, so you won't be able to recognize him unless he is shot in a close up. As the first time we see him in close up it's during his psychiatric session with Dr. Long, we already know by that moment who's who. That was what they were planning when Jude Law was supposed to play him.
And regarding Batman Begins, someone at Warner made a very big mistake when they fist announced Liam Neeson in the movie, they said he was going to play Ra's Al Ghul. Then a day later, they corrected saying that Watanabe was really Ra's Al Ghul while Neeson was Ducard.
At that point the smart people knew it all.

[Steelsheen]

Or Better yet , don't announce who is going to play him. At ALL .Keep it a secret right till the end. Remember how nobody knew that KEvin Spacey was playing in Se7en right until the last moment.

I'd love it if WB & Zach took that approach with Rorschach. Just cast someone a good actor ( known or unknown doesn't matter) but keep it a secret right till the end. Of course the geeks will instantly know who Walter is but for the general audience it would be a great surprise to find out who Rorschach is. :woot:
yeah, i really like that idea, but it would be tough for the marketing department to sell the movie and each of the characters. usually they'd associate so and so actor to the role, essentially just "sell" Walter Kovac and not Rorschach would be tricky, specially one of the figureheads of the The Watchmen is Rorschach.

but hey if the marketing guys can pull this off, i'd tip my cap to them :hyper:

[kaijunexus]

http://movies.ign.com/articles/790/790896p1.html

Three Watchmen Cast?
Stars align for Dr. Manhattan, Nite Owl and Ozymandias.
by Stax

May 22, 2007 - With director Zack Snyder gearing up to shoot Watchmen later this year in Vancouver, there are now rumors about who may have won the lead roles in the long-awaited big-screen version of the Alan Moore/Dave Gibbons graphic novel.

According to Ain't It Cool News, three stars have been aligned for the movie. The site claims that Keanu Reeves will play Dr. Jon Osterman, a.k.a. the god-like Dr. Manhattan. Reeves is a self-proclaimed comic book fan who wanted to play Wolverine in the X-Men movies and was once rumored for the Silver Surfer.

Another comic book fan/movie star may be joining Reeves in the cast. Jude Law will supposedly play Adrian Veidt a.k.a. Ozymandias, which is not very shocking since Law has been publicly lobbying to be in Watchmen long before Snyder boarded the project. It is said that Law even sports a Watchmen tattoo!

Finally, Patrick Wilson (Hard Candy, Little Children) is reportedly going to play Dan Dreiberg, a.k.a. Nite Owl II, arguably the central protagonist in the ensemble.

No word yet on who may fill the other roles, particularly the masked vigilante Rorschach, but 300's Gerard Butler has long been rumored for the Comedian.

Jude Law? Perfect.

Patrick Wilson? Awesome.

Gerard Butler? Freaking fantastic!




Keanu Reeves??!?!?! WTF?!?!?!!??!?!?!

[ToddIsDead]

You should have taken a quick look at the thread before posting.

[Shifty]

Third time its been posted, I can't wait to see what happens when the official casting notices come out. People will be posting the same thing every hour.

But the Watchmen can get its own forum.

[logansoldcigar]

yeah, i really like that idea, but it would be tough for the marketing department to sell the movie and each of the characters. usually they'd associate so and so actor to the role, essentially just "sell" Walter Kovac and not Rorschach would be tricky, specially one of the figureheads of the The Watchmen is Rorschach.

but hey if the marketing guys can pull this off, i'd tip my cap to them :hyper:

except the non comic geeks dont need to know that there is a character called Rorscach until they are sat in the theatre. Watchmen isnt pop culture like spiderman or batman, it wont make huge amounts by being watchmen. You sell Walter Kovacs as a Misfit and Loner who turns out to be important to the whole story.

[logansoldcigar]

As I said numerous times, if they cast a celebrity as Rorschach expect him to be heavily deformed by make up as Kovacs, so you won't be able to recognize him unless he is shot in a close up. As the first time we see him in close up it's during his psychiatric session with Dr. Long, we already know by that moment who's who. That was what they were planning when Jude Law was supposed to play him.
And regarding Batman Begins, someone at Warner made a very big mistake when they fist announced Liam Neeson in the movie, they said he was going to play Ra's Al Ghul. Then a day later, they corrected saying that Watanabe was really Ra's Al Ghul while Neeson was Ducard.
At that point the smart people knew it all.

Which is why some of us are saying dont announce it as rorscach, but as Kovacs.Doesnt matter who it is playing him then. (although I think Ive made it obvious i would go for David Caruso), its a guy who is in chokey doiung some evaluations, and is around the murder scenes.Just dont mention to the public at large that there is someone called rorscach, until he appears on the screen.

[Darth Elektra]

Butler Off Watchmen?

May 23, 2007 - With his dance card filling up fast, Scottish actor Gerard Butler doubts he'll be involved in 300 director Zack Snyder's big-screen adaptation of the graphic novel Watchmen after long being rumored to play the doomed Comedian.

When MTV.com asked about Watchmen, Butler grimly replied, "We've been talking about [Watchmen] for awhile, but [Zack's] never told me a character and to be honest, now I'm looking a little bit picked up ... I don't know if Watchmen is going to be happening."

One of the many projects Butler has lined up is Brian De Palma's prequel The Untouchables: Capone Rising. "[I play] the young Sean Connery, when he was still a detective," he revealed.

Praising the "phenomenal" screenplay, Butler said his Jimmy Malone will be more of "a wheeler and dealer" who "has to deal with things coming for him, he has to deal with his own morality."

Watchmen reportedly begins filming later this summer in Vancouver, while Capone Rising is slated to shoot in the fall.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/791/791265p1.html

[Antonello Blueberry]

Due to some scheduling problems Cage had to dropped out of "Capone Rising". If they don't find another actor in the same league, they will have to move back the shooting.So Butler will be available.

[Brian2887]

I don't know why people are so concerned with hiding Rorshach's identity. Even if all kinds of steps are taken and actors are hidden and the press is denied access. . . they can pick up the book and see for themselves. A non-disclosure agreement seems rather daft when the graphic novel is so readily available.

[Noir]

The point is that we know the characters and the story but they don't the actor's revealed because they know people like us would flame the hell out of them even though they'd probably be great in the film.

[Katsuro]

Which is why some of us are saying dont announce it as rorscach, but as Kovacs.Doesnt matter who it is playing him then. (although I think Ive made it obvious i would go for David Caruso), its a guy who is in chokey doiung some evaluations, and is around the murder scenes.Just dont mention to the public at large that there is someone called rorscach, until he appears on the screen.

It'd be kinda silly to keep Rorschach out of the marketing for the film. He's a rather marketable looking character, and he has a couple action scenes that would surely work great in a trailer.

[Steelsheen]

Due to some scheduling problems Cage had to dropped out of "Capone Rising". If they don't find another actor in the same league, they will have to move back the shooting.So Butler will be available.

i was a little disappointed with Cage dropping out of Capone, but you're right that it may be the chance Butler needs to get working on Watchmen.

[The Last Meatbag]

I actually am alright with this idea of Keanu Reeves casting....something about him makes him seem very distant, which is a great quality for the character.

[Mr. Socko]

Who's Butler going to be?

[Rezzo]

Who's Butler going to be?

No word on whether Butler is going to be involved after all

[IAmHe9]

Keanu Reeves as Dr. Manhattan is perfect. He's done the semi-jittery everyman becoming the stoic, god-like being thing well before, he can do it again. Jude Law is also a good choice, but I'm not sure he has the physique. He could always bulk up, so that's not a big deal, but I probably would've preferred Matthew McConaughey. Nite Owl, I have no idea who should play him, so I guess the guy they picked is alright.

[Rezzo]

Matthew McConaughey

HAHA I can never take him seriously, he´ll always be David Wooderson to me from Dazed and Confused ¨All right All right¨ and plus I wouldn´t want his Texas accent

[toddly6666]

The Comedian could be best played by Gerald Butler or Collin Ferrell (a good actor, who many people hate)

[Mr. Socko]

Wiki page says Gerald Butler will be in it but I'm not counting too much on that after the time Schumacher's page was edited saying Batman & Robin was a hugely successful film and critically praised for the bat-nipples and ass shots.

[Steelsheen]

The Comedian could be best played by Gerald Butler or Collin Ferrell (a good actor, who many people hate)
well, should be easy for Farrel to play an arsehole. ;)

[logansoldcigar]

It'd be kinda silly to keep Rorschach out of the marketing for the film. He's a rather marketable looking character, and he has a couple action scenes that would surely work great in a trailer.

Dont cut him out. keep him in the trailers, show his scenes, show him beating on someone, just dont do an x men style trailer naming all the vigilantes, and dont mention the name rorscach. even cut whoever plays him into the trailer with his "end is nigh board". keep the implication that walter kovacs and the guy with the funny mask are seperate, right up until the point that the mask comes off when he gets his collar felt.

[IAmHe9]

My idea of what casting should be...

Dr. Manhattan - Keanu Reeves. Like I said, he's proven (at least to me) that he can do the jittery everyman turning into a stoic, near-omnipotent being before.
Nite Owl - Patrick Wilson seems like a good choice. Maybe Nick Cage could pull it off too? He's got the nose for it, the acting chops, and the big name.
Ozymandias - Jude Law (if he gets fit enough) or Matthew McConaughey (if he can ditch the Texas accent).
Silk Spectre - Eva Green
The Comedian - Gerard Butler or Hellboy
Rorschach - No idea. He'd have to be an excellent actor to pull him off (someone good with doing accents or different voices) so I'm thinking someone like Depp or DiCaprio: one of those great actors of our day, at least in their mid-thirties. Then we have the issue of Kovacs being 'fascinatingly ugly', but nowadays make-up could cover for that.
Captain Metropolis - No idea, but Metropolis wouldn't have much screen time if the script is even fairly faithful to the novel, so it won't likely be a big name.
Moloch - Jack Nicholson. He'd deliver that 'cancer you don't get better from' line perfectly. Or Chris Walken.

That's all I got so far.

[Shifty]

My idea of what casting should be...

Moloch - Jack Nicholson. He'd deliver that 'cancer you don't get better from' line perfectly. Or Chris Walken.


Nicholson is an interesting choice. I don't know if he would go for a role like Moloch, a complete 180 of all the roles he's played.

[IAmHe9]

Yeah, he usually likes to play more of a bad ass.

By the way, Gerard Butler would be a good choice for the Comedian physically, but I'll have a ****ing heart attack of the Comedian has a Scottish accent.

[Katsuro]

Wiki page says Gerald Butler will be in it but I'm not counting too much on that after the time Schumacher's page was edited saying Batman & Robin was a hugely successful film and critically praised for the bat-nipples and ass shots.

Gerard recently mentioned that he might not be in Watchmen. Apparently they couldn't get something worked out in time, and he's taking up other projects instead.

[Steelsheen]

Gerard recently mentioned that he might not be in Watchmen. Apparently they couldn't get something worked out in time, and he's taking up other projects instead.

did he mention something that will replace the delayed filming on Capone? that was the film that went against his sched for Watchmen, but with Cage dropping out of that one that will push Capone back, hopefully freeing Butler for Watchmen.

[Shifty]

No nobody from the media has talked to him since then.

[Rust]

I think I read somewhere that Butler said that he wasn't even sure if Watchmen happened at all...
I have a really bad feeling about this. They're supposed to start shooting in late august and so far nothing has been made official yet. No finished script (I've heard about), no budget, no actual greenlighting and no cast. Not even spicy persistant rumors are circulating...
I think Snyder may have gotten cold feet or wont succumb to airhead studio-suits and Watchmen has been shelved once again.
Crap, crap, crap...

[darthhalen]

Hey man don't fret. The internet has been mistaking what Butler said. All he meant by that statement was that he did not feel the movie would be happening for HIM! This is due to his extremely busy schedule. He has signed for the Untouchables movie as well as one called Nims Island. Add that to the Escape from New York remake and that allows very little time for him to do Watchmen. I really feel like we will get big news about this at ComicCon. Keep our fingers crossed.

[Shifty]

They announced it will be filmed in Vancouver a couple of weeks ago. I found a great shot of this clock tower similiar to the one used in the comic. Announcements should be coming out soon. There were the three casting rumours last week or so.

[Steelsheen]

you think we'll be hearing more come Comic Con?

[Rust]

They announced it will be filmed in Vancouver a couple of weeks ago. I found a great shot of this clock tower similiar to the one used in the comic. Announcements should be coming out soon. There were the three casting rumours last week or so.

Yeah, but those rumors weren't that much of a big deal and no one really cared, it seemed.
It just seems like the general interest is fading along with the lack of substantial news. Where are the fanboys and those who claim to have heard or seen something?
Surely there must be something to discuss other than casting ideas.
No one's "seen" concept sketches or anything?

I just returned from 3 weeks of touring with no internet-access and I return home to read about some rather lame casting-rumors about Keanu Reeves and another waay-too-young dude...

I'll settle with ANYTHING solid Snyder has to say about the progress right now.

[Shifty]

you think we'll be hearing more come Comic Con?

Watchmen wasn't listed at ComicCon. Neither was The Dark Knight. But that might change. Plus Watchmen won't be released until late 2008 so it will be at next year's ComicCon for sure.

[Steelsheen]

Watchmen wasn't listed at ComicCon. Neither was The Dark Knight. But that might change. Plus Watchmen won't be released until late 2008 so it will be at next year's ComicCon for sure.

i was kinda hoping they can give some news given that they'll be shooting in August.

[green]

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1561936/20070607/story.jhtml

Zack Snyder Assures He'll 'Find A Spot' For Gerard Butler In 'Watchmen'
Director won't deny rumors of Jude Law, Keanu Reeves and Patrick Wilson being offered roles in comic book flick.
By Larry Carroll
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UNIVERSAL CITY, California — A few weeks back, we broke the bad news from Gerard Butler on the MTV Movies Blog that his post-"300" schedule was looking too tight to squeeze in an appearance in "The Watchmen." But this week, director Zack Snyder assured us that he'll get his Spartan leading man into the highly anticipated comic book flick somehow.

"Yeah, we'll find a spot for him," Snyder told us on the red carpet at the MTV Movie Awards (see "MTV Movie Awards Get Dirty: Baron Cohen, Ferrell Mash; Rihanna Sizzles; Silverman Says 'Bleep!' " and "Jessica Biel, Jay-Z, More Go Casual-Chic On Anything-Goes Movie Awards Red Carpet"). "They'll let him [off the other sets for a while]; he's not gonna get out that easy."

The red-hot director, intent on using his newfound Hollywood clout to stay true to Alan Moore's refreshingly dark comic classic, also offered a promising non-denial regarding rumors that names like Jude Law, Keanu Reeves and Patrick Wilson had been offered roles. "Um — you know what? I would say 'No,' but then you'd call me later and go like, 'Dude, what are you doing?' " Snyder laughed. "I don't know who's leaking this stuff, but they're good."

Snyder is hard at work finalizing his shooting script, casting A-list stars and defending his vision against the suits who'd make the story of hunted superheroes somewhat cheerier (see "Director Zack Snyder On 'Watchmen' Flick: 'I Don't Wanna Screw It Up' "). As he does so, he told us that he's most looking forward to shooting the opening scene of the flick. "At the beginning of the movie there's a character called the Comedian," Snyder said of the ill-fated former hero whose murder begins the story. "He gets in a fight with a guy that we don't know who it is, and [the Comedian] gets thrown out a window. That's what I'm working on right now, and it's pretty intense."

"[We'll be shooting] up in Canada, starting in September," Snyder said of the film, which Hollywood has been trying to get off the ground for a decade and a half, under directors ranging from Terry Gilliam to Paul Greengrass. "[We'll be shooting] real soon."

Snyder also commented on those pesky rumors about a "300" sequel, saying that he'll leave the door open for whatever Frank Miller has in mind (see " '300' Trivia: Albino Giants, Sequel Chances — And Sienna Miller"). "Hey — if Frank wrote it, and drew something cool, absolutely."

But until then, Snyder is focused on the only comic to make Time's 100 best English-language novels list, a book that many consider the greatest graphic novel ever written. "We're drawing and getting everything together, and I think it's looking pretty cool," he said, promising that we'll soon be watching the "Watchmen" movie. "It's gonna be awesome."

[Rezzo]

Well that´s good to hear but we need more Watchmen news :(

[Noir]

Peter O'Toole for Moloch!

http://realitymouse.com/otoole/pictures/otoole6/pictures/otoole226.jpg

[breyfogle_rules]

Just need to vent here. Interviews with Zack Snyder show him being somewhat of a dull, frat-boy type.
I think "300" was a very stupid movie.
A title like Watchmen should be in the hands of an auteur.
Not some dude.

That is all.

[Johnichi Chiba]

Just need to vent here. Interviews with Zack Snyder show him being somewhat of a dull, frat-boy type.
I think "300" was a very stupid movie.
A title like Watchmen should be in the hands of an auteur.
Not some dude.

That is all.

I get what you're saying, but I think he really understands the deeper layers of Watchmen. In other interviews, he's mentioned all the themes and how important they are to the story as a whole. I just think he's a very visual director and getting it right visually seems to be mostly on his mind when he's doing these interviews.

[Pablo Parker]

I get what you're saying, but I think he really understands the deeper layers of Watchmen. In other interviews, he's mentioned all the themes and how important they are to the story as a whole. I just think he's a very visual director and getting it right visually seems to be mostly on his mind when he's doing these interviews.

:up:
i don´t think he is dull in his interviews. he´s just a down to earth guy. he doesn´t need to be pretentious to be a good director.

Pitof recieved a lot of praise when he made Vidoqc, i recall some people calling him an "auteur"... And then he did Catwoman. So f**k "auteurs" :cwink:

[Darth Elektra]

Good news from Zack.

[Shifty]

Filming does get bumped from mid-August to September now, just don't push it back anymore.

[StorminNorman]

Just need to vent here. Interviews with Zack Snyder show him being somewhat of a dull, frat-boy type.
I think "300" was a very stupid movie.
A title like Watchmen should be in the hands of an auteur.
Not some dude.

That is all.

Congrats, you are an idiot :up:

[Steelsheen]

that sure keeps the Butler hope afloat.

but they delayed it for Septmber. nuts. they really ought to give something come Comic Con. at least some concept artwork or something.

[Johnichi Chiba]

Looks like Mr. Cusack wants in:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5849

Zack Snyder all but confirmed recently that Jude Law, Keanu Reeves and Patrick Wilson will star in Watchmen, but now John Cusack tells MTV he would love to be a part of the film:

MTV: You can't Google your name without getting a hit for "Watchmen." Everyone wants you to be in this movie.

Cusack: I'm in. Talk to Zack [Snyder].

MTV: Have you read the comic?

Cusack: Yeah, I actually love the comic. Maybe this is how people get jobs in the modern world. Like, I come on MTV and then he'll see it and give it to me.

MTV: Are you familiar with the character of Nite Owl?

Cusack: There's that guy and then there's Rorschach, right? I like that. I like that stuff.

MTV: Would you prefer to play Rorschach or Nite Owl?

Cusack: I haven't read the script nor have I ever met Mr. Snyder. I thought that was a really, really cool comic. I'm into it. But, you know, we have to talk to Zack's representatives. What studio is doing the film?

MTV: Warner Bros.

Cusack: See, who knows. Warner Bros. might want Ashton Kutcher.

MTV: I don't think that would work. John Cusack would work.

Cusack: Welcome to my world.

Cusack can next be seen in 1408, opening June 22.

I could totally see John Cusack as Dan Dreiberg. I just hope it isn't too late for him to get in.

[blind_fury]

Very funny interview. John Cusack is the coolest guy on the planet.

He's a fan favorite for Nite Owl. I'm kind of disappointed Snyder hasn't approached him for the role yet. seriously wtf?

[Cinemaman]

Well, it may turn out as a great casting, especially after such an interview like this one :up:

[Qwerty©]

Peter O'Toole for Moloch!

http://realitymouse.com/otoole/pictures/otoole6/pictures/otoole226.jpgHe looks exactly like Big Figure, not Moloch.

[Antonello Blueberry]

He looks like Moloch, and he's a couple of feet too tall to be Big Figure.

[Sub-Zero]

so keanu, jude law, and patrick wilson are all in as manhattan, ozy, and nite owlII?

[ToddIsDead]

Nothing's official yet.

[nite-owl]

I'll cum all over my on face if Cusack is cast as nite-owl.

[Dark Donnie]

I got a laugh out of this

Cusack: I haven't read the script nor have I ever met Mr. Snyder. I thought that was a really, really cool comic. I'm into it. But, you know, we have to talk to Zack's representatives. What studio is doing the film?

MTV: Warner Bros.

Cusack: See, who knows. Warner Bros. might want Ashton Kutcher.

[The Guard]

Why the hell do people want John Cusack to be Night Owl? He's a solid actor, but unless he gained some serious weight, he wouldn't fit the role at all. He may be an everyman, but that's not what Dan Dreiberg even is in WATCHMEN to begin with. Dreiberg is someone who used to be in shape, used to be a vigilante, and has fallen out of shape.

I've never understood why he's a fan favorite, other than he can act.

[Cinemaman]

^^^

Just watch Being John Malkovich ;)

[The Guard]

Yeah, I've seen the guy act. I'm saying he's not really all that suited to play Dan Dreiberg physically and personality-wise. I know he can flat act.

[blind_fury]

Why the hell do people want John Cusack to be Night Owl? He's a solid actor, but unless he gained some serious weight, he wouldn't fit the role at all. He may be an everyman, but that's not what Dan Dreiberg even is in WATCHMEN to begin with. Dreiberg is someone who used to be in shape, used to be a vigilante, and has fallen out of shape.

I've never understood why he's a fan favorite, other than he can act.

just curious. Who are your top choices for the Nite Owl?

[The Guard]

I'm not real picky, as long as it's someone who can act fairly well and looks like he used to be a vigilante superhero who still has elements of that character in him. After seeing VANILLA SKY I kind of wanted to see Kurt Russell (I think he has the range to do everyman, and be heroic in a heartbeat) take a crack at it, but that was years ago (before SKY HIGH), and frankly, there are probably a lot of guys who could play the role well. Still, Russell has a very haunted look to him that I think would work great for Dan Dreiberg.

http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes5/VanillaSky49.jpeg

John Cusack just doesn't do it for me for some reason (too young-looking?). if WATCHMEN was only a novel, and there had never been a drawing of Night Owl, I'd say Cusack could hack it. But I've got a particular visual in mind for Dreiberg, having read it so many times.

[Steelsheen]

wait a sec, i thought the Keanu, Jude article was a joke?


Looks like Mr. Cusack wants in:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5849

I could totally see John Cusack as Dan Dreiberg. I just hope it isn't too late for him to get in.
Mr. Snyder, listen to the man and cast him please! :hyper:

[Arkady Rossovich]

I would think Adam West could play Hollis Mason.

[Rorschach II]

Why the hell do people want John Cusack to be Night Owl? He's a solid actor, but unless he gained some serious weight, he wouldn't fit the role at all. He may be an everyman, but that's not what Dan Dreiberg even is in WATCHMEN to begin with. Dreiberg is someone who used to be in shape, used to be a vigilante, and has fallen out of shape.

I've never understood why he's a fan favorite, other than he can act.

Nowadays it's easy to put on a little paunch with the effects and wardrobe group on your side (or even by doing some good old-fashioned eating). And even if they decided not to make post-retirement Nite Owl II over-weight it wouldn't take away from the story. If John Cusack shows up without having worked out or bulked up at all, it'll be totally believable that he was a once-great super hero that has retired and hasn't hit the gym (or the streets) since. It's just like people complaining when they don't hire WWE wrestlers as superheroes: when you're casting for a film, the most important thing is to hire someone who can act, not someone who has a 6-foot-something frame and is over 250 pounds of pure muscle. I'm not saying they should get Danny Devito to play Superman, but you're not gonna say no to a big actor (that actually bears a resemblance to the character he's trying to play) because he's no chubby enough, especially if it doesn't necessarily take away from the story.

[Rorschach II]

wait a sec, i thought the Keanu, Jude article was a joke?


=[

I'm a Keanu Reeves fan so I might be biased, but I think he could nail it. So could Jude.

[sad lieutenant]

I can't believe office boredom led me to club-keanu.com. But it did. "Club Keanu" (the "club" is not a verb) is a fansite for Kean-O-Philes who report on EVERYTHING Keanu. Curious if Keanu is a salad nicoise kinda guy? Go to Club Keanu.
But they also report on movies occasionally, and have access to his agent, Erwin Stoff. So, when they got confused about this "Watchmen" comic-movie thing and its connection with their Little Buddha, they emailed Stoff and claimed to get a swift, unequivocal answer:

"Okay gang of fans [WTF?], several people have sent me this movie news tidbid in [sic] about Keanu in a movie called Watchmen. One source here (http://www.cinematical.com/2007/05/22/keanu-reeves-and-jude-law-offered-watchmen-roles-source-says/) [actually, AICN was the source] and of course it's all over the net now. So, in an effort to be accurate in movie news, I ran it by Erwin Stoff this morning (via email) and he said "was offered it and turned it down." Again thank you Mr. Stoff for taking the time!"

So AICN was spot-on about the existence of the offer to Keanu -- only he turned it down!?!? Keanu's fans are just too innocent to make this stuff up! I mean just consider the awkward, adolescent prose! If this proves true, then listen for the resonant, if distant sound of thousands of Watchmen fans breathing a collective sigh of thank-freaking-Allah.

[Rorschach II]

"was offered it and turned it down."

:csad:

[Crook]

I'm glad he turned it down, but at the same time perplexed why Snyder picked him. :huh:

[Steelsheen]

I can't believe office boredom led me to club-keanu.com. But it did. "Club Keanu" (the "club" is not a verb) is a fansite for Kean-O-Philes who report on EVERYTHING Keanu. Curious if Keanu is a salad nicoise kinda guy? Go to Club Keanu.
But they also report on movies occasionally, and have access to his agent, Erwin Stoff. So, when they got confused about this "Watchmen" comic-movie thing and its connection with their Little Buddha, they emailed Stoff and claimed to get a swift, unequivocal answer:

"Okay gang of fans [WTF?], several people have sent me this movie news tidbid in [sic] about Keanu in a movie called Watchmen. One source here (http://www.cinematical.com/2007/05/22/keanu-reeves-and-jude-law-offered-watchmen-roles-source-says/) [actually, AICN was the source] and of course it's all over the net now. So, in an effort to be accurate in movie news, I ran it by Erwin Stoff this morning (via email) and he said "was offered it and turned it down." Again thank you Mr. Stoff for taking the time!"

So AICN was spot-on about the existence of the offer to Keanu -- only he turned it down!?!? Keanu's fans are just too innocent to make this stuff up! I mean just consider the awkward, adolescent prose! If this proves true, then listen for the resonant, if distant sound of thousands of Watchmen fans breathing a collective sigh of thank-freaking-Allah.

i'm relieved. really i am. :)


I'm glad he turned it down, but at the same time perplexed why Snyder picked him. :huh:

could be a studio choice, not necessarily Snyder.

[Cinemaman]

It's either a BS that Snyder asked Keanu or another studio's choice. All I want is to see Cusack as Nite owl and Butler as Dr. Manhattan! :up:

[Cinemaman]

Yeah, I've seen the guy act. I'm saying he's not really all that suited to play Dan Dreiberg physically and personality-wise. I know he can flat act.

WTF?!? Are you sure you watched BJM? Because it''s one of Cusack's best movies.

[Threshold]

I'm starting to take a liking to the possible casting of Keanu. He would bring a really vacant and isolated depth to the character. If you need some more convincing, go rent/buy/illegally_download A Scanner Darkly. It'll sell you on Neo 4 Manhattan.

Also, now having seen Little Children, I can safetly say that if Patrick Wilson gets the Niteowl II role he will become a MASSIVE movie star. He's got an incredible amount of charisma and likability. He may be a bit too much of what I think the female populous refer to as "a hottie" or "a catch"... but it's Hollywood, and if Hollywood is good at anything... It's making pretty people look ugly and give them too much credit for it.

Reeves & Wilson are 100% okay in my book. The less I see of Jude Law, the better. That said, if the Lawbreaker does make the cut, I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world.

[nite-owl]

It's either a BS that Snyder asked Keanu or another studio's choice. All I want is to see Cusack as Nite owl and Butler as Dr. Manhattan! :up:

Listen to this man he speaks the truth.

[Qwerty©]

He looks like Moloch, and he's a couple of feet too tall to be Big Figure.Camera tricks.

[Carmine Falcone]

He looks like Moloch, and he's a couple of feet too tall to be Big Figure.

Oh that's a pity.

Do you know any blue actors who could play Doc. Manhattan? :huh:

[Cinemaman]

Listen to this man he speaks the truth.

Thank you :)

[Antonello Blueberry]

Oh that's a pity.

Do you know any blue actors who could play Doc. Manhattan? :huh:
Aren't there good small actors
around the world? Why do we need to cast Peter O'Toole and than saw his legs at the knees?

[MissHades]

You know, I don't believe Keanu's choice for Dr Manhattan would be only some type of studio choice, because Snyder is the hit director right now and can ask whatever he wants from WB. IMO Reeves is the obvious choice fo Manhattan, the man that fits the role AND can bring movie goers that aren't fans of the story, mostly overseas. To say the truth, if it's true that he was offered the role and turned it down, that doesn't bother well for the movie or the script that was offered to him.

Reeves is very underrted as an actor and classified by some as dumb. But it takes just a fast look at his resume to comprove that it's well on contrary. He is known for choosing good projects, or at least projects with good scripts and concepts. His last movies, mostly the indies like Thumbsucker and A Scanner Darkly are proof that he isn't afraid to do different and innovative characters in movies that were very well received by critics. If he turned down that super big budget and hyped movie in favor of another project... I would take that as a uh-oh...

[Carmine Falcone]

Aren't there good small actors
around the world? Why do we need to cast Peter O'Toole and than saw his legs at the knees?

http://www.azulcalcinha.com.br/gif/cine010%20charlie3.jpg



:woot:

[WalterKovacs]

keanu reeves...
meh.
could be worse.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/pig_jizz/dissapointed.jpg

[Darth Elektra]

No Watchmen for Keanu Reeves

Despite rumors to the contrary, Club-Keanu received word from Keanu Reeves' manager, who said that Keanu had been offered a role in Zack Snyder's Watchmen but turned it down.

Watchmen, created by writer Alan Moore and artist Dave Gibbons, was released as a 12-issue comic book in 1986 and is one of the most critically acclaimed series in the genre. The comic is a crime-conspiracy story that provided the first realistic look at the behind-the-heroics lives of superhero archetypes.

[blind_fury]

I'm glad Keanu Reeves is out.

Whatever role he would've played we wouldn't see the character, we would see Keanu Reeves. We need actors who can disappear in these roles.

[The Guard]

See, Keanu Reeves doesn't fit his role, either. I've got few issues with his acting, I have issues with how well he relates to the role as a person.

[Sawyer]

Keanu being out of the picture can only be good news. He would've taken me out of the film.

[green]

Bah...I was digging the idea of Keanu as Manhattan.

[ghost_x]

Wasn't Keanu a big Watchmen fan? Why the hell would you turn the role down, he hasn't got alot on his plate at the moment, better Watchmen than a Constantine 2

[Warhammer]

Why did Keanu turn down Watchmen? :wow:

...I guess unknowns is a good idea, but if they do get big names, then Keanu made a big mistake. Pity.

:csad:

[sad lieutenant]

No Watchmen for Keanu Reeves

Despite rumors to the contrary, Club-Keanu received word from Keanu Reeves' manager, who said that Keanu had been offered a role in Zack Snyder's Watchmen but turned it down.

Watchmen, created by writer Alan Moore and artist Dave Gibbons, was released as a 12-issue comic book in 1986 and is one of the most critically acclaimed series in the genre. The comic is a crime-conspiracy story that provided the first realistic look at the behind-the-heroics lives of superhero archetypes.
Hey.. I posted that on this board yesterday... Here I am terrified to admit that I actually went to a site called "Club Keanu" trolling for Watchmen news -- and now SHH is running with it? Give the Lieutenant his propers! (Incidentally, I emailed AICN about this nearly a full week ago)

[cryptic name]

Looks like Mr. Cusack wants in:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5849



I could totally see John Cusack as Dan Dreiberg. I just hope it isn't too late for him to get in.

it would rock my world if Cusack was cast as Dreiberg. he's perfect for the role, not only does he have a great range, but physically, he's a big guy and he used to kickbox, he's so f**king perfect for this.

[Rust]

I'm glad Keanu Reeves is out.

Whatever role he would've played we wouldn't see the character, we would see Keanu Reeves. We need actors who can disappear in these roles.

Amen to that. Neo all over the place...

And I dont think I would be able to take anyone but an unknown, or relatively unknown, serious for Manhattan. I'd go "Doh, that's just a bald Keanu Reeves in blue paint" or "Lord, I just saw King Leonidas' blue balls"!

And likewise, I cant imagine any a-list actor portraying any of the unmasked characters without being somewhat distracted.
I would be able to accept Law as Ozy though, because of his versatility and talent for not being associated with any genres or parts. And of course, he's a fan...:)

[matrix_ghost]

Wasn't Keanu a big Watchmen fan? Why the hell would you turn the role down, he hasn't got alot on his plate at the moment, better Watchmen than a Constantine 2.

Nope he wasn't a fan per se although i wouldn't be surprised that he heard/knows about Watchmen.
When he got the script for Constantine , he was finishing up with Matrix Revolutions. He went to Larry and Andy Wachowski , who are big comic book fans , and they just said "go for it ".

If this report is in fact true , i can think of only two reasons why KEanu wouldn't be involved
1 ( MOST LIKELY CHOICE) :
Scheduling conflicts. Reports are saying that Watchmen is going to start shooting in September. Keanu's also lined with another movie called "The Night Watchman". It's directed by David Ayer
Both of these movies are coming out in '08 and i think that shooting on the David Ayer flick is also going to take place during that period. Since he's alsready signed to shoot that flick he wouldn't be able to do work on Watchmen

2 ( Unlikely but could also be a reason):
The fact that he would have to be replaced by a CG creation. It's not exactly fun to be walking in a blue screen suit for the most of the time and then be replaced by CGI in the end. THere were rumors some years back that Fox was thinking of hiring KEanu Reeves for the SIlver Surfer. While they got Doug Jones , you canm kinda see where i'm going with this. The bigger the A-list star , the harder it is to convince him/her to take on such a role.
All the other roles would be glady accepted by the other actors since they are in the camera without CG replacement.

[matrix_ghost]

Amen to that. Neo all over the place...

And I dont think I would be able to take anyone but an unknown, or relatively unknown, serious for Manhattan. I'd go "Doh, that's just a bald Keanu Reeves in blue paint" or "Lord, I just saw King Leonidas' blue balls"!
And likewise, I cant imagine any a-list actor portraying any of the unmasked characters without being somewhat distracted.
I would be able to accept Law as Ozy though, because of his versatility and talent for not being associated with any genres or parts. And of course, he's a fan...:)

I totally disagree. I mean isn't it way to early to talk about that . If you look at the comics , DR Manhatten before the accident doesn't look like him after the accident. At all. Even the facial structure is changed dramatically. I think there would be a substantial change to the character's design . Stuff like a more booming /alien sounding voice.

To use 300 as an example.
Rodrigo Santoro who played Xerxes looks completely different then his role in Love Actually.
http://www.blogemeio.blogger.com.br/santorosimpl.jpg
http://midia.ondarpc.com.br/santorodentro020350.jpg

[matrix_ghost]

btw , why do i have a feeling that Patrick Wilson will take on the role of Dr Manhatten ?
IMO it would make more sense to have to that role.
FOr starters he looks like Jon and he is quite buffed up. Perfect reference material IMO.
To play Nite Owl , he'd have to let himself go.

While Cusack wouldn't have the gut that Dan has , i doubt he has the physical look of Wilson

[chamber-music]

glad to here Keanu Reeves is out. I don't want his wooden acting anywhere near this movie

[Cinemaman]

After watching 300 I realized that if there is only one man, who looks and acts like a real Dr. Manhattan, then it's Gerard Butler! :mad: :up:

P.S. the CGI idea would suck, I don't want to see King Kong, I want to see Dr. Manhattan.

[ConcreteBlock15]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c377/CB15/whatahoot-2.jpg?t=1181911308
UH... YOU WANT ME TO HEAT THOSE UP FOR YOU OR ANYTHING..?

And in case those rumours concerning Patrick Wilson having already been signed up as Dreiberg/Nite Owl II are true, too, here's what Zacky Boy simply has to do - keep Wilson on board but instead cast him as the perennial thirty-something Doc Manhattan (he's got the fresh faced geekiness of Jon Osterman, too) & give Cusack the goddamned Owl suit gig already! (wonder who he'll get to make out with as Silk Spectre II?)

[ghost_x]

.

Nope he wasn't a fan per se although i wouldn't be surprised that he heard/knows about Watchmen.
When he got the script for Constantine , he was finishing up with Matrix Revolutions. He went to Larry and Andy Wachowski , who are big comic book fans , and they just said "go for it ".

If this report is in fact true , i can think of only two reasons why KEanu wouldn't be involved
1 ( MOST LIKELY CHOICE) :
Scheduling conflicts. Reports are saying that Watchmen is going to start shooting in September. Keanu's also lined with another movie called "The Night Watchman". It's directed by David Ayer
Both of these movies are coming out in '08 and i think that shooting on the David Ayer flick is also going to take place during that period. Since he's alsready signed to shoot that flick he wouldn't be able to do work on Watchmen

2 ( Unlikely but could also be a reason):
The fact that he would have to be replaced by a CG creation. It's not exactly fun to be walking in a blue screen suit for the most of the time and then be replaced by CGI in the end. THere were rumors some years back that Fox was thinking of hiring KEanu Reeves for the SIlver Surfer. While they got Doug Jones , you canm kinda see where i'm going with this. The bigger the A-list star , the harder it is to convince him/her to take on such a role.
All the other roles would be glady accepted by the other actors since they are in the camera without CG replacement.

Doug Jones wasn't in a blue suit and CGI replaced in F4

[matrix_ghost]

Doug Jones wasn't in a blue suit and CGI replaced in F4

You do realise that i'm talking about the fact that the actor who's gonna play Dr Manhatten is going to wear a blue/green screen suit which is going to be replaced with CGI ....

[ghost_x]

You do realise that i'm talking about the fact that the actor who's gonna play Dr Manhatten is going to wear a blue/green screen suit which is going to be replaced with CGI ....

I do realise that, but you referred to the reason why Keanu Reeves might not of undertook the Silver Surfer role is because some actors might not like the constraints of a CGI suit....

[Qwerty©]

What ghost x is trying to say is that Keanu couldn't have turned the Surfer role down because of the blue screen suit, because there was no blue screen suit. The Surfer was achieved via costuming with CGI effects.

[ghost_x]

I thought I made it pretty clear

[Qwerty©]

I thought I made it pretty clearI just can't stand it when people don't understand other peoples comments and attack them based on their mistake, in fact I've actually defended you twice in the last five minutes, now that i'm paying attention.. hope you don't mind. I don't mean to appear protective.

[ghost_x]

I noticed, and I agree, people seem to skim read or outright ignore posts and than attempt to argue. I don't mind at all, thanks for the awareness.

[Sub-Zero]

my ideal cast based on some of the recent rumors.

patrick wilson: dr. manhattan
jude law: ozy
eva green or jennifer connelly: silk spectre
john cusack: nite owl II
unknown actor: rorschach
gerard butler: comedian
paul newman: nite owl I
reginald vel johnson: dr. malcolm
chris walken: moloch

[ghost_x]

Would you want a specific voice for Rorschach?

[Sub-Zero]

i like the guy who does the question's voice on jlu, but more raspy and menacing.

[ghost_x]

I think the cast of Sin City proved that it's fairly easy to shift to a raspier voice, even Josh Hartnett managed it

[Sub-Zero]

yeah. they need to hurry up with casting though.

[ghost_x]

If it takes them a while to find the perfect cast, I'm willing to wait

[Cinemaman]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c377/CB15/whatahoot-2.jpg?t=1181911308
UH... YOU WANT ME TO HEAT THOSE UP FOR YOU OR ANYTHING..?

And in case those rumours concerning Patrick Wilson having already been signed up as Dreiberg/Nite Owl II are true, too, here's what Zacky Boy simply has to do - keep Wilson on board but instead cast him as the perennial thirty-something Doc Manhattan (he's got the fresh faced geekiness of Jon Osterman, too) & give Cusack the goddamned Owl suit gig already! (wonder who he'll get to make out with as Silk Spectre II?)

Umm, was Wilson ever confirmed? I have heard nothing about him so far, except for fans' clames.

[Rizor]

I think the cast of Sin City proved that it's fairly easy to shift to a raspier voice, even Josh Hartnett managed itI've never heard Josh Hartnett with anything BUT that voice he had in Sin City.

Umm, was Wilson ever confirmed? I have heard nothing about him so far, except for fans' clames.Wilson was mentioned in the same AICN report with Reeves and Law which seemed to be confirmed by Reeves' agent.

[Rizor]

Oh, and Joel Grey is PERFECT for Moloch.

http://www.affirmation.org/images/humor/separated/joel_grey.jpg

[Cinemaman]

I've never heard Josh Hartnett with anything BUT that voice he had in Sin City.

Wilson was mentioned in the same AICN report with Reeves and Law which seemed to be confirmed by Reeves' agent.

But this still doesn't make sense, because Wilson wasn't mentioned as the choice for Dr. Mahattan, was he?

Besides, I wouldn't belive Reeves' agaent, who most likely lies. My guess is Reeves was studio's choice (after success of The Matrix), but Snyder denied it.

[Steelsheen]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c377/CB15/whatahoot-2.jpg?t=1181911308
UH... YOU WANT ME TO HEAT THOSE UP FOR YOU OR ANYTHING..?

And in case those rumours concerning Patrick Wilson having already been signed up as Dreiberg/Nite Owl II are true, too, here's what Zacky Boy simply has to do - keep Wilson on board but instead cast him as the perennial thirty-something Doc Manhattan (he's got the fresh faced geekiness of Jon Osterman, too) & give Cusack the goddamned Owl suit gig already! (wonder who he'll get to make out with as Silk Spectre II?)

damn there's Dreiberg right there :up:

[Qwerty©]

Yeah, when I heard everyone rooting for Cusack, I was like "What?", but seeing that picture, I think he could pull it off.

[Antonello Blueberry]

You do realise that i'm talking about the fact that the actor who's gonna play Dr Manhatten is going to wear a blue/green screen suit which is going to be replaced with CGI ....
Probably not. As Doug Jones wasn't wearing a green/blue suit to act as Silver Surfer.

[cryptic name]

You do realise that i'm talking about the fact that the actor who's gonna play Dr Manhatten is going to wear a blue/green screen suit which is going to be replaced with CGI ....

didn't snyder say they were going to use prosthetics and a special luminous blue paint?

[Cinemaman]

^^^

I hope they will, CGI nowadays is so oversued that I find this way sounding more unusual :up:

[The Guard]

That picture of Cusack looks like John Cusack with glasses on. Not Dan Dreiberg.

[ghost_x]

I've never heard Josh Hartnett with anything BUT that voice he had in Sin City.

You should check out more Hartnett movies, his first lines in Sin City he puts on a brilliant soft spoken yet gruff voice, far varied from his regular vocal range.

[Artistsean]

I read this idea in Wizard magazine,
comedian Steven Wright (spelling?) for Rorschach

the magazine said that his monotone voice and delivary of dialogue would be great for the character.

[ghost_x]

Steven Wright is such a weird specimen. His voice is definitely monotone, but to the point of out right boring, would be far too hard to keep concentration on Rorschach investigative revelations.

[Qwerty©]

That picture of Cusack looks like John Cusack with glasses on. Not Dan Dreiberg.An actor can't help looking like himself.

Cusack could easily put on weight for the role and of course his hair would be different.

I don't know for sure, but as an actor I think he might act differently as well :cwink:

[Steelsheen]

or just use a fat suit.

lets not forget that theres a flashback in the story of the team at their prime. Dreiberg wasnt a tub of lard there, and neither should be the actor.

[ConcreteBlock15]

Hey, let's post random pictures of actors in glasses 'til The Guard finds one he likes, regardless of whether the guy actually has the acting chops to pull off the role or not (although I have to admit, Hutton wouldn't be a bad bet):

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMidyxHNGPHwAQx2jzbkF/SIG=14oml4bro/EXP=1182078450/**http%3A//us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/tv_pix/sci_fi/five_days_to_midnight_photos/timothy_hutton/midnight20.jpg

[Antonello Blueberry]

You mean this one?
http://movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/tv_pix/sci_fi/five_days_to_midnight_photos/timothy_hutton/midnight20.jpg

[ConcreteBlock15]

That's the doohicky!

[Antonello Blueberry]

You should check out more Hartnett movies, his first lines in Sin City he puts on a brilliant soft spoken yet gruff voice, far varied from his regular vocal range.
I quite like Hartnett, especially in "Lucky Number Slevin".
I think he could play an interesting Manhattan. And a nice Spirit, too.

[ghost_x]

I thought he was pretty good in Lucky Number Slevin, I could definetly see him play Manhattan

[Qwerty©]

or just use a fat suit.

lets not forget that theres a flashback in the story of the team at their prime. Dreiberg wasnt a tub of lard there, and neither should be the actor.
Dreiberg isn't that fat to warrant a fat suit, I don't think it's unfeasible for Cusack to film flashback scenes at the start of production and gain weight quickly to film the present day scenes.

[Cinemaman]

The problem is Hartnett doesn't look and act like already grown man, who saw deaths and births, war and peace, violence and love, tragedy and irony. He just doesn't look so experienced person. That's his problem, he still acts like boy under the age of 25.

Manhattan looks like 30 years old, but his soul is very old as he saw everything in the world. I still think that Butler has something similar to him, maybe his eyes or deep speaches.

[The Guard]

An actor can't help looking like himself.
This is true. That is why most actors won't be eligible to play certain roles. In this case, a role like Dan Dreiberg.

Cusack could easily put on weight for the role and of course his hair would be different.
We'll see. Show me a picture of Cusack with Dreibergish hair.

I don't know for sure, but as an actor I think he might act differently as well.
Cusack's a good actor, but he tends to do "Cusack".
Hey, let's post random pictures of actors in glasses 'til The Guard finds one he likes, regardless of whether the guy actually has the acting chops to pull off the role or not (although I have to admit, Hutton wouldn't be a bad bet):
He's certainly a better looking Dreiberg than Cusack, even just in the face. Can he act?

[Qwerty©]

Why exactly should movie Dreiberg look exactly like comic book Dreiberg? What he looks like, other than being nerdy, chubby and basically average isn't what makes the character great.

Cusack looks enough like Dreiberg, why should he be discarded for not being a carbon copy?

[Cinemaman]

^^^

The same question is asked by me :confused:

[sad lieutenant]

I quite like Hartnett, especially in "Lucky Number Slevin".
I think he could play an interesting Manhattan. And a nice Spirit, too.

Couldn't agree more... I heard Hartnett's a fan of the comic, but would he be willing to get circumcised for the role of Dr Manhattan? (that's why Daniel Day Lewis turned down the part)

[The Guard]

Cusack looks enough like Dreiberg, why should he be discarded for not being a carbon copy?

What does "looks enough like Dreiberg" mean to you, exactly? Glasses?

[ConcreteBlock15]

I always had a hankerin' for Alfred Molina in the role -

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMij6inRGYZwA9U.jzbkF/SIG=12is200du/EXP=1182129274/**http%3A//www.gamerswithjobs.com/images/upload/alfredoctopus2.jpg

...here conspicuously without glasses.

[Eddie Dean]

I always liked the idea of Jeff Daniels as Dan.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5889/shortdeerrg8.jpg

[Rust]

Cusack and Judge Reinhold (below) are my main choices for a retired Dreiberg.

http://img.search.com/9/90/Judge_Reinhold.jpg

http://us.ent3.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/the_santa_clause_2/judge_reinhold/santa.jpg


But I suppose they will cast younger actors/actresses and put them in make-up for both the flashbacks and the contemporary scenes.
In that case I'm cool with Wilson...

[Qwerty©]

What does "looks enough like Dreiberg" mean to you, exactly? Glasses?
The glasses help a lot, yes. I can't really explain it, other than that image really reminds me of Dan Dreiberg.

[Rust]

The glasses help a lot, yes. I can't really explain it, other than that image really reminds me of Dan Dreiberg.

It does. It personifies Dan pretty damn good albeit Cusack looks a bit grumpy in this particulary shot.
I'm all for it...

[Antonello Blueberry]

Couldn't agree more... I heard Hartnett's a fan of the comic, but would he be willing to get circumcised for the role of Dr Manhattan? (that's why Daniel Day Lewis turned down the part)
Where's that from? I strongly doubt we'll see a full frontal of Manhattan in the movie, as we didn't see the completely naked Spartans in 300.

[Compi716]

I always liked the idea of Jeff Daniels as Dan.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5889/shortdeerrg8.jpg
Not a bad idea, especially judging from that one picture.

[ghost_x]

Couldn't agree more... I heard Hartnett's a fan of the comic, but would he be willing to get circumcised for the role of Dr Manhattan? (that's why Daniel Day Lewis turned down the part)

Not a chance we'll get a full frontal shot in this movie. Plus why circumcise an actor with all the advancements with CG?

[Carmine Falcone]

http://www.sprekersplatform.nl/sprekers/SMITS_henkjan.jpg

*waits for Dutch poster to show up screaming*

[chamber-music]

Couldn't agree more... I heard Hartnett's a fan of the comic, but would he be willing to get circumcised for the role of Dr Manhattan? (that's why Daniel Day Lewis turned down the part)

no way thats true. I doubt they will show Manhattan with full frontal nudity. I'm thinking some well thought out camera angles or if that doest work tighty whites.

[sad lieutenant]

Couldn't agree more... I heard Hartnett's a fan of the comic, but would he be willing to get circumcised for the role of Dr Manhattan? (that's why Daniel Day Lewis turned down the part) Where's that from? I strongly doubt we'll see a full frontal of Manhattan in the movie, as we didn't see the completely naked Spartans in 300.
Not a chance we'll get a full frontal shot in this movie. Plus why circumcise an actor with all the advancements with CG?
You guys need to recognize a low-brow penis joke when you see one! Let's not venture so deep into the forest of comic-nerddom that we can't make out the trees, hmm? And yet thanks for the chuckle at the prospect of some dudes at ILM drawing straws over who gets stuck with digitally-trimming Josh Hartnett's foreskin!

[Iglius]

Cusack and Judge Reinhold (below) are my main choices for a retired Dreiberg.

http://img.search.com/9/90/Judge_Reinhold.jpg

http://us.ent3.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/the_santa_clause_2/judge_reinhold/santa.jpg


But I suppose they will cast younger actors/actresses and put them in make-up for both the flashbacks and the contemporary scenes.
In that case I'm cool with Wilson...



Not feelin' it....that guy always plays a jerk.

[Rust]

Not feelin' it....that guy always plays a jerk.

Huh? He always plays nice quiet guys. He played Rosewood in Beverly Hills Cop, for God's sake, hehe... :)

[Iglius]

Yeah....I just don't know about that one.

[Rust]

Well, I just thought he resembled Dan and I like the characters he's played. Very likeable and funny.

Don't worry... They're NOT gonna cast him. Cusack's got more going for him with Watchmen. :)

[Iglius]

But, I mean, Cusack as Dan? I'm just not seeing it.

[Rust]

But, I mean, Cusack as Dan? I'm just not seeing it.

None of the above then?
Well, Patrick Wilson is close to getting it it seems, so there it is...

Who do you see as Dan?

[Cinemaman]

If 1408 is both critical and financial success, then I have no idea why Cusack won't be cast.

[Iglius]

1408 doesn't look that great.

(^rhyme)


I always thought Chris Noth seemed as though he could assume a Dreiberg-ish form, though they're probably looking for a bigger name.

[Cinemaman]

^^^

Go to RT, it's 100%.

I know it will get lower, but I can't see anything less than 70% ;)

[OtepApe]

Personally, I would love to see Cusack as Dan. He's always been a favorite of mine, a damn fine actor, a name without being too flashy and could easily be seen as Dan (well, to me). I don't really get people's opposing thoughts on this. He may not be some people's first choice, but he's Cusack and he's brilliant. He doesn't have to look the exact double of Dan from the comic. He could easily put on weight, he has that everyman look and could easily pull off Dan's personality.

[Mercurius]

But, I mean, Cusack as Dan? I'm just not seeing it.

Man, he is simply identical, physically speaking. And he's a really fine actor.

I'm not seeing why you aren't seeing it. :huh:

[Sub-Zero]

1408 doesn't look that great.

(^rhyme)


I always thought Chris Noth seemed as though he could assume a Dreiberg-ish form, though they're probably looking for a bigger name.


noth always seemed like a good choice for a dkr batman to me.

[Rezzo]

Haley is Rorschach in Snyder's Watchmen?
Source: Clobberin' Time
June 17, 2007

Actor Paddy Considine, who was attached to play masked vigilante Rorschach in Watchmen back when Paul Greengrass was directing, has revealed on his official fan site that Warner Bros. has now gone out to Jackie Earle Haley for the role.

Haley received an Oscar nomination for his role in Little Children. He also recently starred in All the King's Men and played Kelly Leak in the "Bad News Bears" films in the '70s.

Zack Snyder (300) is directing the big screen adaptation, based on the 12-issue comic book created by writer Alan Moore and artist Dave Gibbons. The comic is a crime-conspiracy story that provided the first realistic look at the behind-the-heroics lives of superhero archetypes.

Larry Gordon and Lloyd Levin are producing.

Source http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5867

[srh1son]

Haley is Rorschach in Snyder's Watchmen?
Source: Clobberin' Time
June 17, 2007

Actor Paddy Considine, who was attached to play masked vigilante Rorschach in Watchmen back when Paul Greengrass was directing, has revealed on his official fan site that Warner Bros. has now gone out to Jackie Earle Haley for the role.

Haley received an Oscar nomination for his role in Little Children. He also recently starred in All the King's Men and played Kelly Leak in the "Bad News Bears" films in the '70s.

Zack Snyder (300) is directing the big screen adaptation, based on the 12-issue comic book created by writer Alan Moore and artist Dave Gibbons. The comic is a crime-conspiracy story that provided the first realistic look at the behind-the-heroics lives of superhero archetypes.

Larry Gordon and Lloyd Levin are producing.


If this is true, this is inspired casting. He's a solid actor and he's unrecognizable enough to general audiences for the big reveal to work (the man behind Rorschach's mask). I hope this is true, if only because it means that casting is actually happening and the movie is being made.

[Shifty]

Cool.

Now onto the rest of the cast.

[odiin]

AICN has some news regarding the cast (Yeah, it's from Aint it Cool, so take it for what it is....)

First they say that Jason Patric is up for the Doc Manhattan role, and then there's this little gem

The Comedian’s still up for grabs, too, but they’ve looked at everyone from Ron Pearlman to Nathan Fillion for the role. Right now, it sounds like there’s one actor who Snyder likes for the part, but I’m not at liberty to divulge his identity yet. Let’s just say it’s a “punishing” choice, and the actor brings a lot of comic book credibility to the role if he ends up playing it.

YAy! Dolph Lundgreen for the Comedian.... or Not. Thomas Jane would actually be a pretty cool choice, though I figured that role would have ended up going to either Gerard Butler, or Ron Perlman, but Jane would be good as well, and as big of a Punisher fan as I am, dumping the sequel for the Watchmen film is a GREAT choice on his part, I hope he gets it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/valentine1731/wwtwm.jpg

[nite-owl]

I wouldn't mind Paddy Considine as Rorschach.

[srh1son]

EXCL: Wilson One Step Closer to Nite Owl?

Source: Max Evry
June 18, 2007


http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5870


http://superherohype.com/nextraimages/niteowl1.jpg

ComingSoon.net/Superhero Hype's Max Evry recently talked with actor Patrick Wilson about his upcoming drama Evening (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=16593) and decided to try to put to rest the rampant rumors that he's in talks to play Nite Owl in Zach Snyder's adaptation of Alan Moore's Watchmen. Wilson didn't deny the rumors, but you can read their discussion and decide for yourself if Wilson is "pulling a Shia" or whether he's already cinched that key role.

SHH: Recently Zach Snyder made a statement to a reporter basically confirming that there had been an offer put out to you to play Nite Owl in "Watchmen." Is it true?

Patrick Wilson: (Laughs) Umm… you know… what'd he say? I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about this stuff. It's been confirmed on a lot of websites, I'll just say that.

SHH: Are you familiar with the material?

Wilson: I am, very.

SHH: Are you enthusiastic about the material?

Wilson: (laughs) The material's phenomenal, let's put it that way. It's pretty unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Just as we were talking about, you know with every huge … and that's a totally different, when you talk about comic book movies that doesn't even do an ounce of justice to that script, both the movie script and the original graphic novel is pretty phenomenal writing.

SHH: Totally, and if it is true you'd be a good fit for that role, if you were hypothetically to play it.

Wilson: (sarcastic) If by chance I did have… when does your story run?

SHH: Probably a couple weeks.

Wilson: Oh yeah, well by then I would imagine there might be... I mean, I would blab my mouth cause I certainly haven't been told to keep quiet. It's just out of respect for them trying to get everybody else on board before I go ahead and blab my mouth, but it's pretty cool. It's exciting stuff.

[OtepApe]

So it sounds like he's Nite Owl then. Still, it's shame Cusack isn't him, he'd have been awesome.

[GL's Light]

I actually think Patrick Wilson would be a better fit to play Ozymandias, but he's a good actor and I'm sure he'll do well as Nite Owl.

[Carmine Falcone]

Jason Patrick as Doc. Manhattan is one hell of a choice. I think he has the right look and voice.

[GL's Light]

Yeah, I agree - Jason Patric would be a good choice to play Dr Manhattan.

Can't wait for this film! :hyper:

[Antonello Blueberry]

Yeah, I agree - Jason Patric would be a good choice to play Dr Manhattan.

Isn't he a bit too short for the role? Manhattan should be imposing, Superman sized, someone at least 6ft2.
Jason Patric is like 5ft9. I'm still for Bana, Hartnett or Butler if he's not playing the Comedian.

[GL's Light]

Isn't he a bit too short for the role? Manhattan should be imposing, Superman sized, someone at least 6ft2.
Jason Patric is like 5ft9. I'm still for Bana, Hartnett or Butler if he's not playing the Comedian.
Patric can very ably convey the ethereal, spaced out quality that Dr Manhattan should have. I don't think his actual height is an issue, since I expect them to make him look much taller using FX and camera tricks.

Butler could pull the role off, but Bana and Hartnett would be poor choices in my opinion.

[Lobster Charlie]

Do they realize that all of these heroes are in their 40's, at the least? Comedian is in his 60's.

I don't see Patrick Wilson fitting Nite Owl II at all. John Cusack is a PERFECT choice, IMO.

[Sub-Zero]

wilson is way too young looking for niteowl II. he'd make a better manhattan. he's got the face, i think.

[Lobster Charlie]

wilson is way too young looking for niteowl II. he'd make a better manhattan. he's got the face, i think.


THAT, I can see.

[Antonello Blueberry]

Do they realize that all of these heroes are in their 40's, at the least? Comedian is in his 60's.

And do you realize that in the movie they're seen from their mid20s to their mid 40s (late 30s more probably) and just for a couple of scene for the Comedian in his mid 60s?

[Lobster Charlie]

That's true...I just figure we're spending *more* time with them in their 40's than in the flashbacks. I'm just not crazy about a 34 year old Nite Owl II. Not to mention I don't think he looks like the character.

[Capt. Jack]

okay, here is my short rant about possible watchmen casting. overall i wish snyder was aiming a little older than his possible casts. I always enjoyed the idea that these characters were grown ups that had been through a lot and lived to tell their tales, and then had to rise again to fight the ultimate threat....wow that sounded so cheesy but the point is they had been around the block. Anyhoo, for example ron pealman would be the best possible choice for the comedian if for nothing but his voice and that is another problem i have with a few of the casting choices like kelly leak as mr. kovacs which i think is a great cast minus his voice. blah blah yeah so overall i think they should be aiming a bit older like pearlman and not jude law and thomas jane who rule but just seem young for the characters in the book.

but, i think all of the casting is extremely proper and exciting and i can't wait to see this thing brought to life without NAMES because zach knows that watchmen is the only name/word they need.

but still i wish ron pearlman was in this thing!

[ToddIsDead]

I love Ron, but even with the same kind of de-aging effects that they used in X3, I don't think he could pull off an 18 year old Comedian in the Minute Men scenes. You need someone a little younger that can play both the 18 year old and the 60 year old Eddie Blake.

[WalterKovacs]

I love Ron, but even with the same kind of de-aging effects that they used in X3, I don't think he could pull off an 18 year old Comedian in the Minute Men scenes. You need someone a little younger that can play both the 18 year old and the 60 year old Eddie Blake.
exactly. you can always have a young person play an old person (just watch the film a beautiful mind.) but you cant make an older peson look young. as long as theyre skinny, a medium-looking person can be made-up to look hideous. theyre not gonna cast a guy with a scar already to play the comedia, for example.

[Cinemaman]

wilson is way too young looking for niteowl II. he'd make a better manhattan. he's got the face, i think.

Agreed. I don't wnat to see another adaptation of my favorite comic book with young actors, who aren't close to 40s. So I expect some kind of IM casting for Watchmen:up:

[Antonello Blueberry]

I love Ron, but even with the same kind of de-aging effects that they used in X3, I don't think he could pull off an 18 year old Comedian in the Minute Men scenes. You need someone a little younger that can play both the 18 year old and the 60 year old Eddie Blake.
I don't think that scene will be seen in the movie.

[ToddIsDead]

I don't think that scene will be seen in the movie.

How could they cut that scene out of the movie? It's pretty vital as far as I'm concerned.

[Sawyer]

Did you guys read this...
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33045
Nathan Fillion for The Comedian? That would be pretty amazing. Ron Pearlman would be great too.

[sad lieutenant]

Forget about that laughable Punisher film (by "that", I mean the most recent, laughable Punisher film). Thomas Jayne just co-produced that bat**** crazy David Arquette film "The Tripper" in which a dude puts on a Ronald Reagan mask and butchers hippies. And Jayne is looking bloated, drunk/pilled-up -- and freakin AWESOME. Even though I initially questioned Snyder's choice, the dude in this photo will be an inspired Comedian:
http://delivery.viewimages.com/xv/72788084.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19396908EAF14430D35518662CD39494E95 42378019CBCB1C2E
http://tinyurl.com/3dbtus
Who wouldn't want to see this righteous, bloated carcass thrown off of a skyscraper, attempt to rape a super-heroine, and shoot a pregnant Vietnamese woman in the stomach?

[Carmine Falcone]

With that pic I could totally see it.

[Cinemaman]

RED X :dry:

[Grant]

okay, here is my short rant about possible watchmen casting. overall i wish snyder was aiming a little older than his possible casts. I always enjoyed the idea that these characters were grown ups that had been through a lot and lived to tell their tales, and then had to rise again to fight the ultimate threat....wow that sounded so cheesy but the point is they had been around the block. Anyhoo, for example ron pealman would be the best possible choice for the comedian if for nothing but his voice and that is another problem i have with a few of the casting choices like kelly leak as mr. kovacs which i think is a great cast minus his voice. blah blah yeah so overall i think they should be aiming a bit older like pearlman and not jude law and thomas jane who rule but just seem young for the characters in the book.

but, i think all of the casting is extremely proper and exciting and i can't wait to see this thing brought to life without NAMES because zach knows that watchmen is the only name/word they need.

but still i wish ron pearlman was in this thing!

You got to remember the book showed these characters at various different ages. We saw the Comedian in his early 20s to his early 60s. And characters like Ozmandias and Doctor Manhattan really never aged. Casting people in their mid thirties seems like the best solution.

[Antonello Blueberry]

How could they cut that scene out of the movie? It's pretty vital as far as I'm concerned.
The thing that happens in that scene will be discussed but not shown. Something has to go, you can't show everything in a two and half hour movie.

[Antonello Blueberry]

Doc Manhattan and NiteOwl in the West
http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/797/797278/alamo-pwilson-jpatric1_1182191691.jpg

[Rust]

Doc Manhattan and NiteOwl in the West
http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/797/797278/alamo-pwilson-jpatric1_1182191691.jpg

Funny... you found that picture by coincidence?

[nite-owl]

With that pic I could totally see it.

What pic?

[Sub-Zero]

wilson looks like kip pardue in that pic.

[sad lieutenant]

What pic?

Hey Nite-Owl:
Carmine was talking about the above the pic of Thomas Jane. The link keeps on dying... I'll re-post:

LAST EDIT: CLICK HERE (http://delivery.viewimages.com/xv/72788084.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19396908EAF14430D35518662CD39494E95 42378019CBCB1C2E)

EDIT: When I inserted it the picture kept on going bye-bye.

Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/3dbtus
EDIT: Stupid tinyurl!



I posted my take on this above... I can't wait to see this guy as a bloated, drunken, homicidal misanthrope.
http://forums.superherohype.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=11908250

[waylayer]

For anyone expressing concerns that they're going too young on casting, consider this: it's a lot easier to use makeup to age someone than it is to make them appear younger. If you are using the same actors and showing them at both younger and older ages, it makes more sense to cast closer towards the younger appearance. If you're concerned about a particular actor not being able to convey more age and older experience in their role, that's an entirely different concern.

[Carmine Falcone]

Hope this works:

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l136/Facone_Snoek/Jane_Comedian.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l136/Facone_Snoek/Jane_Comedian.jpg

[Darkly Dexter]

This movie deserves a great cast. I mean, it's one of the gratest comic books of all time.

[ThatDamnNinja]

This movie deserves a great cast. I mean, it's one of the gratest comic books of all time.

I'm personally liking the cast so far. Jude Law is obvious for Ozymandias, Patrick Wilson seems like a good choice for Nite-Owl (though it's a shame they're not going with Cusack, who desperately wants to be in the movie), Jackie Earle Haley is about as perfect for Rorschach as any actor I can think of. Jason Patric sounds like an inspired choice for Doc Manhattan, assuming they get him.

For the Comedian, I like Ron Perlman, but de-aging him might be kind of hard, and he might be a little ugly to play the Comedian, who is supposed to be a good looking guy, essentially. Thomas Jane sounds pretty inspired for the part, although I'd love to see the underrated Nathan Fillion take a shot at it. I really like how Zack is approaching this.

Who would everyone like to see for Laurie? I saw someone suggested Amanda Peet, who I never thought of. It was kind of off-putting at first, but I reconsidered, and looked at some pictures, and realized she might be perfect for the role.

[blind_fury]

Thomas Jane kinda looks like the comedian in Boogie Nights but I'd prefer someone older.

[ThatDamnNinja]

Thomas Jane kinda looks like the comedian in Boogie Nights but I'd prefer someone older.

Well, the thing is, they have to show the characters older and younger. If they get one actor in between the two ages, then it's easier to age and deage them for both. I'd rather not see two actors playing the Comedian, which is what you'd have to do if you wanted to show both older and younger, and you got a guy about the age of the Comedian in 1985.

[SaxtonTemple]

Most likely the Comedian will be played by Gerard Butler. Snyder mentioned in an interview he would find a role for Butler and the Comedian is the only one i can think of. And i wouldnt mind at all if this would happen.

[ThatDamnNinja]

Most likely the Comedian will be played by Gerard Butler. Snyder mentioned in an interview he would find a role for Butler and the Comedian is the only one i can think of. And i wouldnt mind at all if this would happen.

I can't see Butler as the Comedian, to be honest. The only role I can see Butler in is the Black Freighter Guy... I would love to see that make it in, but I'm almost certain it won't... with only three hours running time, that part won't take priority.

But it'd be pretty cool if they filmed it and included it in an extended cut!

[ghost_x]

I think Butler said, after a long discussion he wouldn't be in the film

[ThatDamnNinja]

I think Butler said, after a long discussion he wouldn't be in the film

Do you know where he said this...?

I hope this is the case... I like Butler, but there's not really any major role that's right for him in Watchmen, and I'd like him to have a free schedule so he can play Kraven in Spider-Man 4. :cwink:

[ghost_x]

It was in a recent interview me thinks, he also said that he didn't think Watchmen would be happening so who knows what he's talking about.

I can't see him as Kraven at all.

[odiin]

Most likely the Comedian will be played by Gerard Butler. Snyder mentioned in an interview he would find a role for Butler and the Comedian is the only one i can think of. And i wouldnt mind at all if this would happen.

Hooded Justice?

[Grant]

Hooded Justice?

That would be great.

[Frico]

Sweet that we have a forum now :up:

[The Guard]

No to Wilson for Dreiberg, or Osterman. A big fat YES to Wilson for Adrian Veidt. Inspired choice.

[blind_fury]

Sweet that we have a forum now :up:

This is a great day for the hype! :up:

The best graphic novel in history is officially becoming a reality. :yay:

[sad lieutenant]

Does anyone know if Captain Metropolis is in the script? I heard that his character -- minor, to be sure -- had been cut out of Hayter's script in order to pare down the cast of characters and substituted Nite Owl as the naive mouthpiece of the "Crimebusters". Do we know if Snyder put him back in? Has anyone heard anything about casting?

My vote is for a blonde Peter Stormare:
http://tinyurl.com/2jscrz http://tinyurl.com/2nb95o

Not that he is the spitting image of Gibbons' Captain... It's just that whether he's the stron, silent, putting-Steve-Buscemi-in-the-woodchipper-type, the torture-phile-from-Brothers-Grimm-type, or bombastic-Swede-from-Bad-Boys-II type: he's consistently freakin' awesome. And he played one-third of the barely-visible "nihilists" in the Big Lebowski, so he might be down for a minor role.
Enough of my maligned fantasies... Has anyone heard about the status of this character in the movie?

[Iglius]

I know nothing about whether he'll be featured or not, but I suggest Greg Kinnear.


I just see him with that defeated look going, "My charts! What are you doing to my charts!?"

[Rust]

I know nothing about whether he'll be featured or not, but I suggest Greg Kinnear.


I just see him with that defeated look going, "My charts! What are you doing to my charts!?"

Yeah, a well-balanced mixture of his Capatain Amazing from Mystery Men and Simon from As Good As It Gets, hehe. :)

http://hitparade.ch/actorimages/greg_kinnear.jpg

[Threshold]

After Little Miss Sunshine and The Matador I'm cool with Greg Kinnear doing whatever the hell he wants.

[Iglius]

Oh, man, I really thought Little Miss Sunshine deserved the Oscar.

[GL's Light]

Greg Kinnear would be a good pick to play Nite Owl.

This would be an effective cast:

Nite Owl - Greg Kinnear
Dr Manhattan - Jason Patric
Rorschach - Jackie Earle Haley
Ozymandias - Patrick Wilson
Laurie - Diane Lane

[Iglius]

Meh, I'd prefer Kinnear in a smaller role as Metropolis.

[sad lieutenant]

While I don't think Kinnear can do no wrong, I agree that he'd be pretty perfect for that role. Let's hope the studio doesn't want Chris Evans or James Gandolfini or some crap!

[Iglius]

Perfect for what-- Nite Owl or Captain Metropolis?

Because, if Chris Evans or James Gandolfini were either I think I'd kill myself. Where'd that come from anyway?

[bapi]

In Watchmen isn't a role for Butler. And yeah, Kinnear is a good actor and as Metropolis he could be really good. And which actor I want for Dr. Manhattan? Only CLIWE OWEN!!!

http://www.impawards.com/2006/posters/children_of_men_ver4.jpg

[ThatDamnNinja]

Meh, I'd prefer Kinnear in a smaller role as Metropolis.

I've always seen Greg Kinnear when I look at Metropolis.

[The Guard]

I very much doubt that Captain Metropolis is in the script. All drafts have replaced him with Dan, which makes a lot of sense, storywise.

[Iglius]

Yes, for time's sake, that would make sense, but for the hell of it--I'd definately suggest Kinnear as Captain Metropolis.

[ThatDamnNinja]

I very much doubt that Captain Metropolis is in the script. All drafts have replaced him with Dan, which makes a lot of sense, storywise.

Yeah, probably. I mean, I hate to cut out anything, but Captain Metropolis is probably one of those things that you can afford to cut out more... him and the Black Freighter comics. I mean, I love Black Freighter, but when you have to condense the story into three hours, the Black Freighter doesn't exactly take priority.

[sad lieutenant]

Yeah, probably. I mean, I hate to cut out anything, but Captain Metropolis is probably one of those things that you can afford to cut out more... him and the Black Freighter comics. I mean, I love Black Freighter, but when you have to condense the story into three hours, the Black Freighter doesn't exactly take priority.

It's true, most regard him as expendable. And yet, in the comic -- unlike the Black Freighter, which for obvious reasons would saddle-down the narrative -- Captain Metropolis is pretty much just window-dressing. Cutting him out won't slim down the running time of the film -- it will only free up some room in the frame for a few scenes.
More importantly, he has this perpetually-anxious expression on his face, serving as a visual element that only adds to the subversion of the superhero genre. He's neurotic, naive and self-conscious -- not the Stoic (or Spartan!) super-type. You don't even have to give him lines to make him work (and I don't mean to invoke any comparisons to Kumar's role as Luthor's goon in that wack-ass Superman movie); and you don't have to include any special story elements (origin, story arc, character development) for him, because that's really not in the comic.

Just throw some money at some beloved character actor to stand around and look uncomfortable in Metropolis' own super-skin, and the film will have more depth and everyone will be happy. Keep him in the movie!

[ThatDamnNinja]

It's true, most regard him as expendable. And yet, in the comic -- unlike the Black Freighter, which for obvious reasons would saddle-down the narrative -- Captain Metropolis is pretty much just window-dressing. Cutting him out won't slim down the running time of the film -- it will only free up some room in the frame for a few scenes.
More importantly, he has this perpetually-anxious expression on his face, serving as a visual element that only adds to the subversion of the superhero genre. He's neurotic, naive and self-conscious -- not the Stoic (or Spartan!) super-type. You don't even have to give him lines to make him work (and I don't mean to invoke any comparisons to Kumar's role as Luthor's goon in that wack-ass Superman movie); and you don't have to include any special story elements (origin, story arc, character development) for him, because that's really not in the comic.

Just throw some money at some beloved character actor to stand around and look uncomfortable in Metropolis' own super-skin, and the film will have more depth and everyone will be happy. Keep him in the movie!

They're probably thinking more in terms of keeping the cast smaller where possible.

[sad lieutenant]

They're probably thinking more in terms of keeping the cast smaller where possible.

Sure, but my argument is that he's more of an indispensable set-piece than a cast member! And he won't cost anything in terms of the budget or the narrative!

[Carmine Falcone]

Edit

[ThatDamnNinja]

Sure, but my argument is that he's more of an indispensable set-piece than a cast member! And he won't cost anything in terms of the budget or the narrative!

Hey, you're probably right. I'm just trying to get inside their heads as to why they might not keep him. I think it'd be a shame if they didn't, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Darkly Dexter]

I don't like Haley and Wilson. This movie deserves a great cast.

[ThatDamnNinja]

I don't like Haley and Wilson. This movie deserves a great cast.

Um... Haley's an Oscar nominee.

[Darkly Dexter]

Um... Haley's an Oscar nominee.

yes, but who knows him? there are a lot better actors. he was nominated once and for one movie.

[StorminNorman]

Rorschach doesn't need, nor should he have, a recognizable face or actor. A good, unknown - like Haley - is ideal.

[Cinemaman]

Damn, I still want to see Butler as Dr. Manhattan, but I must admit Jason Patrick wouldn't be a bad choice as well :up:

[StorminNorman]

Adam West as Hollis Mason - please.

[ThatDamnNinja]

Damn, I still want to see Butler as Dr. Manhattan, but I must admit Jason Patrick wouldn't be a bad choice as well :up:

Jason Patric is the first person mentioned who I really like for Doctor Manhattan. Look at this picture:

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/covergallery/img/1993/dec241993_202_lg.jpg

That says Doctor Manhattan to me...

And has anyone pointed out how Jason Patric is now being mentioned as the frontrunner for the role, which Keanu turned down... and back in 1997, Jason Patric took the role Keanu turned down?

[Cinemaman]

^^^

Yeah, I could really see something in his eyes and face, reminds me Dr. Manhattan's deep wisdom :up:

I hope they'll use CGI to make him higher and the real make-up for skin and look.

[Rust]

Damn, I still want to see Butler as Dr. Manhattan, but I must admit Jason Patrick wouldn't be a bad choice as well :up:

I wanna see Butler for Manhattan too. Patric looks the part facially and has the weird charisma to pull him off, but Butler is taller and Manhattan sorta needs to be a taller... being.

[ThatDamnNinja]

I wanna see Butler for Manhattan too. Patric looks the part facially and has the weird charisma to pull him off, but Butler is taller and Manhattan sorta needs to be a taller... being.

That's a good point, especially considering that Zack Snyder clearly has no experience making shorter actors appear taller than they are...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/300-_Leonidas_and_Xerxes_discuss_surrender.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/300-_Leonidas_and_Xerxes_discuss_surrender.jpg)

[Cinemaman]

I wanna see Butler for Manhattan too. Patric looks the part facially and has the weird charisma to pull him off, but Butler is taller and Manhattan sorta needs to be a taller... being.

Agreed, the only problem is his height. But I will be fine with either Butler or Patrick getting the role as long as they understand their character.

[Rust]

Dammit, if only Patric was 6' 6"...:wow:

[ThatDamnNinja]

Dammit, if only Patric was 6' 6"...:wow:

Did people not see Rodrigo Santoro in 300?

[Rust]

Did people not see Rodrigo Santoro in 300?

Haven't seen it yet, but judging form the above picture you've got a point. That dude is only 6' 2", but looks 7'.
But that doesn't mean Snyder finds it necessary to have a tall Manhattan... which he should be...

[Iglius]

We need a manip artist here.

[ThatDamnNinja]

Worrying about Doctor Manhattan's height is a little ridiculous... Snyder was able to make Xerxes tower over Gerard Butler, so why shouldn't he be able to do the same for Jason Patric, or whoever plays the Doc?

Plus, to put an even finer point on the absurdity of it: Has it occured to anyone that we all take it as agiven that we're going to see a 40-foot tall Doctor Manhattan in the jungles of Vietnam, yet people figure that the real-life height of the actor should have any impact on the casting process?

Or do they have to find a 6'6 actor, in addition to a very similar looking 40 foot actor?

[Rust]

Indeed, you're right...
Snyder said 200!!! feet tall so, there we go...:dry:

But no matter who gets the part it's still a visually stronger image that Manhattan (in normal form) towers over everybody else thus making him appear more godlike and menacing.

[ThatDamnNinja]

Indeed, you're right...
Snyder said 200!!! feet tall so, there we go...:dry:

Yeah... that does look more like 200 than 40, anyway, doesn't it?

[Steelsheen]

Haley is Rorschach in Snyder's Watchmen?
Source: Clobberin' Time
June 17, 2007

Actor Paddy Considine, who was attached to play masked vigilante Rorschach in Watchmen back when Paul Greengrass was directing, has revealed on his official fan site that Warner Bros. has now gone out to Jackie Earle Haley for the role.

Haley received an Oscar nomination for his role in Little Children. He also recently starred in All the King's Men and played Kelly Leak in the "Bad News Bears" films in the '70s.

Zack Snyder (300) is directing the big screen adaptation, based on the 12-issue comic book created by writer Alan Moore and artist Dave Gibbons. The comic is a crime-conspiracy story that provided the first realistic look at the behind-the-heroics lives of superhero archetypes.

Larry Gordon and Lloyd Levin are producing.

Source http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5867

hey damn good actor :up:, i know he doesnt exactly have the same look as the comic book, but his acting more than makes up for it. if he's a lock we've got a winner.


Meh, I'd prefer Kinnear in a smaller role as Metropolis.
yeah same here.

[Iglius]

Yeah, I can't really think of anyone else as good as Haley for Rorschach, so I guess I'd pick him.

So, should we move on to The Comedian?

[Steelsheen]

Yeah, I can't really think of anyone else as good as Haley for Rorschach, so I guess I'd pick him.

So, should we move on to The Comedian?

i'm still hoping on the old favorite: Ron Pearlman.

[Iglius]

I vote Mel Gibson. This film could be, like, the revival of Mel Gibson.

Now, let's not get into some argument about Mel Gibson outside of the movies, but I think the level of controversy surrounding him would be enough to make audiences get the right feeling for his character.

I guess it's hard to explain, but I can just see it working well.

[Qwerty©]

It could also lead to its failure.