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WildCard
02-19-2005, 04:46 PM
Just look at him
http://img171.exs.cx/img171/1218/leo7ag.jpg
http://img171.exs.cx/img171/6135/namor2kv.jpg
Now if we could only get Marty to direct
redlion2
02-19-2005, 04:55 PM
Personally, I prefer the older version of Namor.
Banshee
02-19-2005, 04:58 PM
I could deffinatly see that working
superhuman
02-19-2005, 05:52 PM
LOL! That is just awful. awful. You need help buddy.
reflect4ever
02-19-2005, 10:40 PM
What the hell is that a picture of??? Aqua-boy?!?
WildCard
02-19-2005, 11:42 PM
its from the newest namor comic that lasted a lil whil but its now cancelled
Batman1939
02-19-2005, 11:57 PM
worst choice ever
SpideyLad
02-20-2005, 08:37 AM
No! Not Him!
SolidRoar
02-20-2005, 09:26 AM
Just look at him
http://img171.exs.cx/img171/1218/leo7ag.jpg
Umm, he'd make a good Link in a Legend of Zelda movie! :p
Kmack
02-20-2005, 11:27 AM
Just look at him
http://img171.exs.cx/img171/1218/leo7ag.jpg
http://img171.exs.cx/img171/6135/namor2kv.jpg
Now if we could only get Marty to direct
:up::up:Leo for Namor:p
WildCard
02-20-2005, 12:51 PM
Umm, he'd make a good Link in a Legend of Zelda movie! :p
Never thought of that but ya he would
WildCard
02-20-2005, 12:54 PM
worst choice ever
I find it insane that if anyone on these boards has an opinion that someone doesnt like they get ripped for it. I think thats BS, if you dont like it then keep it to your self .
Like my mom use to say if you dont have anything nice to say
SHUT THE ***** UP.
blades_shades
02-21-2005, 05:14 PM
http://www.afan.dk/dacascos/mdpic/r13-2.jpg
Kmack
02-21-2005, 05:32 PM
He has the looks....can he act?
KingOfDreams
02-21-2005, 05:35 PM
Is this confirmed or is this just who you want to be Namor?
Wargod
02-21-2005, 07:23 PM
i've seen many of his movies and i can say that this guy can't act.
KingOfDreams
02-21-2005, 07:27 PM
I think Donnie Yen should be Namor.
blades_shades
02-21-2005, 08:22 PM
No it's just my choice. He can act good enough. Why does every character have to be portrayed by a Harvard Graduate. It get's boring. :unishr:
KingOfDreams
02-21-2005, 08:32 PM
I've said this before but nobody seems to notice so I'm making a thread about it. Donnie Yen should play Namor. He looks the part and is a good actor. He is also a martial artist, which can only help the movie. His credits include Iron Monkey, Blade II, and Hero.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/pumpkinheadzero/untitled.bmp
KingOfDreams
02-21-2005, 10:25 PM
Any opinions at all?
aosist
02-22-2005, 04:07 AM
**** yeah.
I don't know much about Namor, but anything with Yen will kick ass. Don't let his Blade 2 performace fool you. He's one of the best there is.
Antonello Blueberry
02-22-2005, 04:22 AM
This guy?
http://www.hkfilm.net/donyen4.jpg
Maybe...
dpm07
02-22-2005, 06:13 AM
Yen is definitely incredible. If you haven't seen either Iron Monkey or Hero, go rent it or better yet, buy it. Once you get past the whole concept of subtitles (and you can set it for English also), you will be amazed at this guy's skills. He's definitely one of, if not the best. Namor would be a good role for him. I really believe either he or Jason Scott Lee would be a strong and viable candidate for the role.
The only downside I can find with either Yen or Lee is that they are getting old. It doesn't bother me, but it could work against them. Yen is 42 and Lee is 38.
RAMORE
02-22-2005, 09:42 AM
He's alright but the studio won't like that he's 42 though. Dwayne Johnson (aka the Rock) is still my number 1 pick.
GL BAT FAN
02-22-2005, 11:19 AM
He's A'ight!!!!!!! Not The Rock Though!
blades_shades
02-22-2005, 11:23 AM
The Rock to me is a personality and nothing more. He's too freaking big to play Namor with his nicely placed hairplugs and waxed eyebrows. He's kind of plastic to me. Let him do Scorpion King 2 or something. Namor is going to be Marvel's most epic story and biggest film ever. It's scope will be HUGE compared to Spiderman as will it's toy line. The Rock might help 1 film but he would be a detriment to the planned Trilogy.
Hunter Rider
02-22-2005, 12:20 PM
Interesting choice,he could well make a good namor
dpm07
02-22-2005, 01:42 PM
I think Dwayne Johnson is trying. People shouldn't be so quickly to dismiss him as an actor. People have to start somewhere. Let's face it. Arnold sucks as an actor, but he's made a pretty good living doing it having done some memorable characters. I think Dwayne deserves the same opportunity. His movies have been fluff so far, granted. However, given time, I think he'll do ok. I'm looking forward to his role in the John Travolta movie. He's willing to go against type, and he's willing to try. The guy has done a lot, and is a pretty decent human being. Just my opinion. Everyone's entitled to theirs, I guess.
Now, that said, I do think either someone like Yen, Lee, or even Dacascos would be a more suitable option for Namor.
tamron
02-22-2005, 01:46 PM
I'll defintely say, he has the look for Namor. Mark Dacascos is a good martial artist, and he had good screen presence in Cradle 2 the Grave. He was also Eric Draven in the Crow tv series, but he's not that great of an actor. Were he to get the part, every supporting player would have to be a name actor, b/c I don't think he alone could draw people to the film without that.
http://www.tvtome.com/images/people/50/0/28-7586.jpg
tamron
02-22-2005, 01:53 PM
http://www5f.biglobe.ne.jp/~ana/jason_scott_lee.jpg
Since martial artists for Namor seems to be the sudden trend, what about Jason Scott Lee? He's best known for playing Bruce Lee in Dragon.
3dman27
02-22-2005, 03:18 PM
I'll defintely say, he has the look for Namor. Mark Dacascos is a good martial artist, and he had good screen presence in Cradle 2 the Grave. He was also Eric Draven in the Crow tv series, but he's not that great of an actor. Were he to get the part, every supporting player would have to be a name actor, b/c I don't think he alone could draw people to the film without that.
http://www.tvtome.com/images/people/50/0/28-7586.jpg
he would make a good namor
Metamorpho1977
02-22-2005, 03:29 PM
has anyone seen him on Iron Chef America? He's hosting that right now, and doing a pretty good job.
reflect4ever
02-22-2005, 04:41 PM
A moderator needs to stick all these Namor threads together. Sheesh!!!
blades_shades
02-22-2005, 05:01 PM
http://www.geocities.com/theactionkingsg/MarkDacascos-homepagepic.jpgI think he fits the role perfect. Ya think.
blades_shades
02-22-2005, 05:04 PM
I thought your were joking. LOL Iron Chef America.http://www.markdacascos.de/filme/Ironchef/ica-1.jpg
Skaigear2
02-22-2005, 05:42 PM
If the Rock doesn't get the role, I don't mind Donnie being Namor. He kicks far too many ass to not be in the list.
RAMORE
02-23-2005, 09:42 AM
Amen!
GL BAT FAN
02-23-2005, 11:51 AM
Not A Bad Choice. He Would Be My Second Pick Next To The Rock.
RAMORE
02-28-2005, 01:28 PM
Must be ROCK!
Philly Phanboy
03-02-2005, 09:27 AM
How about Matt Bomer now that they've gone with B. Routh for Superman? Matt was a Superman candidate for a really long time so he must have done something right during the screen test phase of casting.
http://www.theactorfactory.com/images/mb02.jpg
blind_fury
03-02-2005, 10:38 AM
Jude Law for Namor! :up:
RAMORE
03-02-2005, 02:52 PM
Must be the ROCK!!!
Kmack
03-02-2005, 05:18 PM
An unknown!:p
Philly Phanboy
03-12-2005, 07:30 PM
Jude Law for Namor! :up:
:confused: Huh? Where did that that pick come from?
Oded Fehr (the Mummy, REsident Evil:Apocalypse)
6'2" - exotic looking - served in Israeli navy - looks like Namor w/ short or long hair - has played royalty and a warrior - looks like he can lift his own body unlike the 'Lost' kid - doesn't have a cone shaped head *cough*Rock*cough* :)
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0205000/Ss/0205000/3?path=pgallery&path_key=Fehr,%20Oded
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/1179/Events/1179/OdedFehr_Granitz_178085.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Fehr,%20Oded
HighVoltage
03-12-2005, 11:52 PM
I think Marc Dacascos is a good choice for Namor.
Jude Law for Namor! :up:
That's the only choice for this character. Law IS Namor. He's the only actor who, just standing there, just in the way he looks and moves, seems to be saying, "I'm better than you." It's in every role he does, it's a part of his personal make-up.
Sub-Mariner is not a wrestler, he's a swimmer. Toned body, not hugely muscled. He's cocky, arrogant, regal, popmous, stubborn, ego-centric, etc. It's not some "I'm the greatest" act like the Rock puts on in the ring - it has to be deeper than that. More convincing. The Rock's a good-looking guy, but Namor is a pretty-boy type. Forget how artists like Kirby drew him. Chicks swoon at the sight of Namor. He's genetically blessed. Not in a rugged way, but in the way girls go nuts for Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise. Devastatingly handsome. Pretty to the point of being effeminate. That's Law.
The Rock = head shaped like a jar. Jude Law = head shaped like a triangle, long forehead, elfish features, etc. Just the way Bill Everett used to draw Sub-Mariner.
Philly Phanboy
03-15-2005, 01:16 PM
The Rock = head shaped like a jar. Jude Law = head shaped like a triangle, long forehead, elfish features, etc. Just the way Bill Everett used to draw Sub-Mariner.
:eek:
http://www.alternatedimension.com/article/bert.jpg
:D
Yen is definitely incredible. If you haven't seen either Iron Monkey or Hero, go rent it or better yet, buy it. Once you get past the whole concept of subtitles (and you can set it for English also), you will be amazed at this guy's skills. He's definitely one of, if not the best. Namor would be a good role for him. I really believe either he or Jason Scott Lee would be a strong and viable candidate for the role.
The only downside I can find with either Yen or Lee is that they are getting old. It doesn't bother me, but it could work against them. Yen is 42 and Lee is 38.
Damn 42 and 38 is old??? I guess these guys should be getting ready for retirement.
HighVoltage
03-16-2005, 09:10 PM
:eek:
http://www.alternatedimension.com/article/bert.jpg
:D
Hahahahaahahahahaha.:p
Philly Phanboy
04-05-2005, 09:36 AM
From Latino Review:
Reynolds as Namor, the SubMariner? (http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=12422) - Talking to Latino Review during "Amityville Horror" promotions, Ryan Reynolds confirmed that not only has he been in talks about "The Flash" but also "The Sub-Mariner" - "Avi Arad, who owns Marvel, bought it up to me [The Sub-Mariner] and that would be something I'd be keen on. From what I've learnt from Avi, it's quite an undertaking, so it's's going to be a pretty big movie".
Ryan Reynolds? Am I the only one that thinks that this casting is totally wrong? So Ryan has been in Blade:Trinity, and he's now considered up for roles in Flash (this I can see), Deadpool (possibly) and now Namor (he's a comedy actor! Namor isn't a wise-cracking character). http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif
http://www.screencaptures.net/r/reynolds11.jpg
I'm waiting to see Reynolds in Amityville Horror before I make a call on this. He's pretty much only done comedies so far, but if he can pull off the dramatic acting in AH then I'll give hime a shot at Namor. He's got the body for it and I bet he could pull off the look.
I'm all about casting against type. My strongest objection to Reynolds comes from the pyhsical side. I don't really think that Namor need or should look East-Asian as he admittadly has been drawn to look like sometimes (one would think ATLANTIAN's would resemble peoples or a combo of peoples connected to the Atlantic). But he shouldn't look Joe Blueblood as Reynolds does. I just think he'd look DUMB with the long black hair and the swim/wet suit.
RAMORE
04-07-2005, 09:46 AM
Agreed^. Here is something i posted in another thread to talk about this very subject:
Hey roach tell me which one of thes is scrawny?
http://www.omelete.com.br/imagens/quadrinhos/news/marvel_comics/namor.jpg
http://comicverse.free.fr/Images/Archives/QQQ/Namor.jpg
http://www.samcci.comics.org/sub-mariner/namor.gif
http://www.newsarama.com/Creators/namor_26.jpg
even in this picture of him when he was young he was all cut up.
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/ambi/images/namor.jpg
Also in which one of the pictures above does it remind you of ryan (just needs to do the FLASH) reynolds?
http://www.dr.dk/p3/morten/projekter/lookalike/jpg/Lytter-mikkel-ryan_reynolds.jpg
Furthermore Dwayne Johnson was only really big cause he was still doing the Rock thing and big action flick type movie he's slimed down some now.
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/owlive/img/mar04/walkingtall_big.jpg
Also if he dropped a little more mass and just got super cut up he would be perfect. And his acting does get better every movie. And he hasn't had the most in depth parts guys ie: the scorpion king. I say give him a shot. I think to even further the illusion he should be credited as dwayne johnson and they shold give him prostetics: pointy ears maybe different hair and maybe a slightly different brow. He is my #1 pick just look at my sig!
roach
04-07-2005, 10:16 AM
Namor is a swimmer. look at professional swimmers. They are not these huge muscular men. They are lean but cut. I like those pics of Namor but I dont think that's the way to go with him.....besides look how ripped Wolverine is in the comics compared to Hugh Jackman
Namor is a swimmer. look at professional swimmers. They are not these huge muscular men. They are lean but cut. I like those pics of Namor but I dont think that's the way to go with him.....besides look how ripped Wolverine is in the comics compared to Hugh Jackman
Namor isn't a "professional swimmer". He's a hybrid with super strength who lives under water. He's sort of like Hercules in the sea.
All you frigging have to do is look at the pictures. And no he doesn't have to be as freakish as the most big drawing of him is. But he has pretty consistantly been drawn as a big guy with a really big musculature. Just because we had a virginia slims version of Wolverine doesn't mean we want a namor-ultralight. 2 wrongs don't make a right.
roach
04-07-2005, 01:17 PM
Right he is not but you have to realize that his muscle tone comes from him swimming in the ocean...go to Alex Ross views of the character....
roach
04-07-2005, 01:35 PM
another one
HighVoltage
04-07-2005, 03:32 PM
[QUOTE=RAMORE]Agreed^. Here is something i posted in another thread to talk about this very subject:
Hey roach tell me which one of thes is scrawny?
http://www.omelete.com.br/imagens/quadrinhos/news/marvel_comics/namor.jpg
http://comicverse.free.fr/Images/Archives/QQQ/Namor.jpg
http://www.samcci.comics.org/sub-mariner/namor.gif
QUOTE]
Dudes.We need a Mr.Leonard Nimoyīs clone.:p
I think Mr. Spock is Namorīs Twin Brother.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/vuurvreter/Leonard_Nimoy.jpg
Ok. If the Rock isn't the choice. Karl Urban would physically seem compatable (although I'm not sure he just looks bigger cause he has a wide head). Both he and the character are 6' 2" with dark hair. Clive Owen seems to have the type of natural bigness that if really worked hard could get awesomely jacked with muscle. Also, Clive would be less of a gamble cause his name is bigger than Karls post Closer and Sin City.
ok, here's a question, where does Namor get that rockin' tan from when he's underwater so much?
Kmack
04-07-2005, 04:51 PM
I still like Wizard's suggestion, Ian Somerhalder (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0813812/) :cool::up:
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/tv.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/tv_pix/abc/lost/ian_somerhalder/lost3.jpg
http://groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nJgAAAC8KbqWkdBxWYwRcnZs0qASmBoIvZKNC7Q6CH 468x1iqlrhw2Xb7TMdqoDRxkuBWMAV2Mmw
As you can see he looks the part.....
http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/ambi/images/namor.jpg
...and he's not a bad actor either (watch Lost)
The picture you used to support that awful suggestion is so clearly an outlier from the more common drawings of Namor it's a joke. Somerhalder isn't that good of an actor. Too often people confuse an actor with the goodness or badness of the project they're known for being in. If he's such a good actor why was I and almost every fan of the show so releaved it was the character everyone without a doubt least cared about.
The guy could seriously fit inside Namor of an average drawing without making a bulge. And please don't try to argue that your hispanic poolboy drawing of Namor isn't an outlier, it is.
Son Of Logan
04-07-2005, 07:46 PM
The Rock says...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/reflect4ever/RockIsNamor.jpg
roach
04-08-2005, 07:50 AM
if I was to choose some one to play Namor... i would go with the two actors from the mummy...either the guy who played the creature or the one guy who led the acient brotherhood
RAMORE
04-08-2005, 08:20 AM
Kmack the only problem with ian is he's 5'9". He looks reasonable and acts decent so he's not a bad choice if they where doing a young angry confused namor. But for the grown up version it has to be dwayne johnson:)
Metamorpho1977
04-08-2005, 03:25 PM
Watch Brotherhood of the Wolf if you want to see acting ability from Marc Dacascos.
roach
04-09-2005, 07:05 PM
you really cant list Brotherhood of the wolf for acting ability...he spoke like three words and was in the background the whole time...not really shakespearean efforts
RAMORE
04-12-2005, 01:21 PM
Ha ha good burn roach:)
Newlife
04-12-2005, 08:43 PM
I'd say they go with Dwayne Johnson for Namor.
Let Ryan Reynolds just be Deadpool instead. Plus he would make a way better Deadpool then Namor.
RAMORE
04-13-2005, 08:34 AM
Agreed^!
roach
04-13-2005, 01:58 PM
Ha ha good burn roach:)
I didnt mean it as a burn I was just saying there are other movies where he had a bigger part...hell he was in the Crow TV series.
spider-jide
04-16-2005, 07:06 AM
Namor is a swimmer. look at professional swimmers. They are not these huge muscular men. They are lean but cut. I like those pics of Namor but I dont think that's the way to go with him.....besides look how ripped Wolverine is in the comics compared to Hugh Jackman
Hugh Jackman was ripped enough in X-2.
I say Namor should be played by the Rock. Yes, he is slimmer and his acting roles are diverse and he get's better every time. Him swimming isn't an issue. I know fat gits who can swim really well. Besides, its all fantasy, it doesn't matter if the chosen actor has the exact body of an olympic swimmer.
Spider-Fan
04-16-2005, 10:18 AM
About the only Marvel movie The Rock is good for is Namor. Just keep him away from the Silver Surfer.
spider-jide
04-16-2005, 11:02 AM
About the only Marvel movie The Rock is good for is Namor. Just keep him away from the Silver Surfer.
The rock as the silver surfer would probably suck but i think his voice would suit the role but thats it and that wont happen. The Rock is Namor.
RAMORE
04-18-2005, 03:06 PM
The Rock is Namor!
spider-jide
04-18-2005, 04:39 PM
agreed.
Kmack
04-18-2005, 04:44 PM
The Rock is Namor!
No. . . . he's not:p
portland2002
04-18-2005, 04:56 PM
No. . . . he's not:p
Who do you see as Namor?
Son Of Logan
04-18-2005, 05:42 PM
Posted again just for Kmack...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/reflect4ever/RockIsNamor.jpg
spider-jide
04-18-2005, 06:40 PM
Posted again just for Kmack...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/reflect4ever/RockIsNamor.jpg
Thats what I'm talking about. He's perfect for the role.
Sparta*
04-18-2005, 07:13 PM
hahah Dwayne Johnson?? no way! I liked the rumour of Matt Damon better then that....and I don't even like matt damon to much haha
Son Of Logan
04-18-2005, 07:18 PM
This is the only comic book role I can see Rock in.
Kmack
04-18-2005, 07:25 PM
Who do you see as Namor?
An unknown:p
spider-jide
04-19-2005, 05:57 AM
hahah Dwayne Johnson?? no way! I liked the rumour of Matt Damon better then that....and I don't even like matt damon to much haha
Matt Damon a better choice than the rock? :rolleyes: yeah, whatever.
King_Mungi
04-19-2005, 12:42 PM
An unknown:p
To tell you the truth I woudn't mind Donnie Yen
Pic 1:
http://www.monkeypeaches.com/pix/heroposter-yd.jpg
Pic 2:
http://members.tripod.co.jp/DonnieYen/Kang_Fu.jpg
Pic 3:
Donnie Website
http://www.hkfilm.net/donyen.htm
Ok, I hate to make this suggestion almost because I'm an ardent critic of all the unimaginative TYPE-casting based suggestions that go on here (think Kurt Russel for Nick Fury etc.)
However I just had this idea and it isn't as bad an example of most of those however the one role he is known for is substantially similar to Namor. Anyway here goes. How about MARK LUTZ ?
Only "Angel" fans are likely to know who he is. He played "The Groosalugg" which was a recurring character in the second and third seasons of the show. Similarities between Groo and Namor are plenty, but I thought I'd suggest him anyway. Clearly he doesn't have star power (beyond interested BTVS/Angel fans) and would not be chosen if they decide they need a star. According to his bio he was a competative swimmer, that could come in handy. Here are some pics.
http://www.g2creations.qc.ca/powerplay/mark/markpic.jpg
http://images.zap2it.com/20040706/angel_gallery/34_marklutz_three.jpg
http://www.midgaard.demon.co.uk/nocturnal/groo.jpg
I'd prefer someone bigger ideally but there don't seem to be an overwhelming number of perfect candidates for the role. In fact I've yet to come across one.
The_Guyver
06-19-2005, 10:06 AM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/reflect4ever/RockIsNamor.jpg
Dwayne Johnson is the best candidate for Namor. I think if he got the part, it would be his breakout role in terms of earning respect for his acting ability. I think he'd knock it out of the park. Seeing how good this fan-made poster looks, I can only imagine how he'd look in full Namor make-up. James Cameron should write and direct, he's obsessed with the depths of the sea, he'd be all over this and give it the epic scope it deserves.
Zilleraut #66
06-19-2005, 10:44 PM
I'm still going with Carl Urban.
The Hellrider
06-20-2005, 12:28 AM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/reflect4ever/RockIsNamor.jpg
That says it all.
The Rock proved his legitimacy in The Rundown. He's got the looks, the charisma.....he's perfect.
Namor doesn't exactly conjure thoughts of Shakespeare.
murdock_matt
06-20-2005, 08:06 AM
I wouldn't mind the Rock, but I do see a minor problem with his casting, and it's completely cosmetic/budgetary. The Rock now has these elaborate Hawaiian-tribal tattoos all over him, right? I may be wrong but I think he does. So think about it. Namor never wears a shirt, so every time that he was on screen they would have to digitally remove the tattoos. That means CGI work on every single shot of Namor.
In my opinion that would definately bump up the cost of the effects in what should already be an effects-laden film. I may be wrong. It may not make that much of a difference. But if I were producing a big-budget, underwater special effects movie, that extra bit of money devoted to something completely cosmetic would play a part in my decision.
Son Of Logan
06-20-2005, 11:48 AM
I wouldn't mind the Rock, but I do see a minor problem with his casting, and it's completely cosmetic/budgetary. The Rock now has these elaborate Hawaiian-tribal tattoos all over him, right? I may be wrong but I think he does. So think about it. Namor never wears a shirt, so every time that he was on screen they would have to digitally remove the tattoos. That means CGI work on every single shot of Namor.
In my opinion that would definately bump up the cost of the effects in what should already be an effects-laden film. I may be wrong. It may not make that much of a difference. But if I were producing a big-budget, underwater special effects movie, that extra bit of money devoted to something completely cosmetic would play a part in my decision.
I feel what your saying MM. But who's to say they would just let them pass. I mean, it's not like he has a big "I Love Mom" on his bicep. I have never seen his tribals up close, but they may add to the exoticness of the character. Just a thought.
U.S War Machine
06-20-2005, 12:12 PM
Personally, I prefer the older version of Namor.yes I agree I don't like the younger version myself.
WallCrawl
06-20-2005, 12:54 PM
I feel what your saying MM. But who's to say they would just let them pass. I mean, it's not like he has a big "I Love Mom" on his bicep. I have never seen his tribals up close, but they may add to the exoticness of the character. Just a thought.
Why would an Atlantlean prince have Samoan tattoos though?
Son Of Logan
06-20-2005, 03:18 PM
Why would an Atlantlean prince have Samoan tattoos though?
It's not like the audience is gonna sit there and go..."Wait a minute...those tattoo's aren't Atlantean!!! They're Samoan!!!"
i agree with everyone who choose The Rock
Philly Phanboy
06-20-2005, 03:44 PM
Rock would be best suited for Deathlok. Namor should get an unknown actor.
The Hellrider
06-20-2005, 09:09 PM
I wouldn't mind the Rock, but I do see a minor problem with his casting, and it's completely cosmetic/budgetary. The Rock now has these elaborate Hawaiian-tribal tattoos all over him, right? I may be wrong but I think he does. So think about it. Namor never wears a shirt, so every time that he was on screen they would have to digitally remove the tattoos. That means CGI work on every single shot of Namor.
Is digitally removing tattoo's really necessary?
I would think that a halfway competant make-up person could whip up some "Rock flesh-tone" goop and solve the problem easily, without the need for extensive (and pointlessly expensive) CGI work.
I'm not an expert, but that seems pretty logical to me.
twinfrodo
06-24-2005, 02:47 PM
Well out of the names so far mentioned on this thread I like Ryan Renolds the best just cuz he's funny. I think a lot of the other are too oldish to play him we needs someone a little younger to play him I think. I also think the guy who plays Brennen (It's been a while I think that's his name but the guy with electricity) from Mutant X could play him.
Philly Phanboy
06-24-2005, 03:37 PM
The guy from Mutant X is Victor Webster. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005543/http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Target-33/webster12.jpg
twinfrodo
06-24-2005, 04:16 PM
I think either him or Ryan Reynolds he looks like he could be Namor they both have a look like him
Batcrazy
06-24-2005, 07:16 PM
Rock could pull it off.
twinfrodo
06-26-2005, 12:10 AM
I Don't know the rock doesn't send me Namor vibes I think he cool but I don't know I just don't get a vibe
not_a_victim
06-26-2005, 12:25 AM
If they go with a totally grown up Namor, I vote for Jett Li.
whataboutit?
twinfrodo
06-26-2005, 12:51 AM
I'm really set on who I want for Namor but Who would the Villain be in the Submariner?
I'm really set on who I want for Namor but Who would the Villain be in the Submariner?
I've never read a submariner comic but judging from the marvel directory summary for him I'd say ""Paul Destiny"
http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=493
chamber-music
06-27-2005, 04:03 AM
Jason Lee Scott nuff said
greenlantern248
06-28-2005, 05:39 PM
In Wizard Mag. The had picked people for two movies, Iron man and Namor. Well they had a kid from the tv show Lost as Namor, the rest of the cast was as I can remember: Triple H, Billy Zane, Kathrine Bell as Namorette, Ron Pearlman as I think Tiger Shark. and two other women.
Hypestyle
06-28-2005, 06:03 PM
i wonder how they're going to handle the underwater interaction-- not just fighting, but normal talking, swimming--
How do Atlanteans cook their food-- if they cook at all?
How do they use the restroom?
is sea life prevented from entering their bedroom uninvited?
AdWolF16
06-29-2005, 12:18 AM
the correct answer is Ian Somerhalder
RAMORE
06-29-2005, 07:45 AM
I've never read a submariner comic but judging from the marvel directory summary for him I'd say ""Paul Destiny"
http://www.marveldirectory.com/xoops/modules/wordbook/entry.php?entryID=493
good pick with paul destiny i hadn't heard of him.
RAMORE
06-29-2005, 07:59 AM
My pick now and forever is Dwayne Johnson AKA the rock. People just need to give him a chance. He's serious about it and is developing that talent.
http://www.dwaynejohnsononline.com/misc2/djsacbee_1.jpg
"Acting is a challenge," The Rock says softly, his volume turned way down -- so much so that you almost have to strain to hear him over the hum of the ventilation system. "I want to grow as an actor. And I want to make every scene good and real."
His hyper-expressive, silly-putty face is completely straight, offering not even the slighest hint of that trademark raised right eyebrow that would signal he's not entirely serious.
greenlantern248
06-29-2005, 01:57 PM
Wizard's Pick for The Sub-Mariner
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/life_as_a_house/ian_somerhalder/housepre.jpg
Ian Somerhalder as Namor
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=rachel+bilson/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/SIG=12q1td23s/EXP=1120157487/*-http%3A//www.stuffmagazine.com/girls/rachel_bilson/rachel_bilson_l10.jpg
Rachel Bilson as Dorma
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/blade__trinity/paul__hhh__levesque/trinitypreo.jpg
Paul "HHH" Levesque as Attuma
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/hannibal/billy_zane/hannibalpre.jpg
Billy Zane as Krang
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/blade_ii/ron_perlman/blade.jpg
Ron Perlman as Tiger Shark
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/tv_pix/showtime/reefer_madness_premiere_photos/kristen_bell/reeferprea.jpg
Kristen Bell as Namorita
Wizard continues to prove how awful they are at casting picks
Bruce_Wayne29
06-30-2005, 04:44 PM
I think The Rock would be perfect for the role. He has similar looks to Namor and his in ring character was as arrogant as Namor. I think he would be awesome in it.
I think The Rock would be perfect for the role. He has similar looks to Namor and his in ring character was as arrogant as Namor. I think he would be awesome in it.
I agree.
Just make SOME Atlantians look more afro-ized. It actually makes more sense for ATLANTIS which is in the ATLANTIC to have an Africanized influence than an Asian influence.
RAMORE
07-01-2005, 07:35 AM
He's part samoan you putz. He's come from a long line of people indegenous*spelling* to islands and water and connection to the sea.
He's part samoan you putz. He's come from a long line of people indegenous*spelling* to islands and water and connection to the sea.
He's half Samoan and half black you assbag. And it would make more sense for ATLANTEANS to have an Africanishness to them than an Asianness (samoan) because they're from the ATLANTIC not the PACIFIC.
HighVoltage
07-01-2005, 04:57 PM
Edit.
HighVoltage
07-01-2005, 04:58 PM
My pick now and forever is Dwayne Johnson AKA the rock. People just need to give him a chance. He's serious about it and is developing that talent.
http://www.dwaynejohnsononline.com/misc2/djsacbee_1.jpg
Hey MARVEL Zombies,If you smeeeelllll What Namor is Cookinī.:cool:
HighVoltage
07-01-2005, 06:37 PM
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/blade__trinity/paul__hhh__levesque/trinitypreo.jpg
Paul "HHH" Levesque as Attuma.[QOUTE]
This guy should be pefect for Thorīs role.:cool:
[QOUTE=greenlantern248]
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/tv_pix/showtime/reefer_madness_premiere_photos/kristen_bell/reeferprea.jpg
Kristen Bell as Namorita
And this beautiful girl would be perfect as Dagger.(and Namorita ;) )
Philly Phanboy
07-01-2005, 06:59 PM
And this beautiful girl would be perfect as Dagger.(and Namorita ;) )
Yeah, Kristen would make a great Dagger. Molly Sims really should be Namorita though.
Philly Phanboy
07-01-2005, 07:06 PM
Namorita:
http://www.sexy-superheroine-models.com/Namorita-scan1A.jpg
Molly Sims:
http://www.hammnet.com/Sports%20Illustrated/Sports%20Illustrated%202002/Molly%20Sims-1.jpg
Molly was even a professional swimmer.
Charlie No-One
07-01-2005, 07:52 PM
I don't think the Rock should be Namor. I for once, I agree with Wizard's pick.
not_a_victim
07-01-2005, 08:57 PM
Jett Li!!
HighVoltage
07-01-2005, 09:40 PM
Namorita:
http://www.sexy-superheroine-models.com/Namorita-scan1A.jpg
Molly Sims:
http://www.hammnet.com/Sports%20Illustrated/Sports%20Illustrated%202002/Molly%20Sims-1.jpg
Molly was even a professional swimmer.
Molly Sims as Namorita. Agree.:up::up::eek::)
Peyton Westlake
07-03-2005, 09:15 PM
Son of Logan makes the best case for the Rock.
blades_shades
08-16-2005, 06:49 PM
Guy made a nice debut in Sky High as the pseudo villain "Warren Peace". Did a bad ass job for a 1st timer and look like he could play Namor just fine. Thoughts?
http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/-/5/7/skyhighpubi.jpg
gregtestagent
08-16-2005, 06:54 PM
a picture please?! boy, this guy really is new...I can't find a pic of him.
-edit: now you load a pic :rolleyes:
well, first thing off.....he looks rather young. Probably played that "Bad-Boy" thing moderately good in SH. If he can act then I don't think age will be a major concern.
blades_shades
08-16-2005, 06:55 PM
a picture please?! boy, this guy really is new...I can't find a pic of him.
It was hard to find a good pic. If you can find more post them. He also is a band member of "TRIBE".
blades_shades
08-16-2005, 06:58 PM
http://www.allmoviephoto.com/c/StevenStrait_1.html
More photo's at above link or see below.
http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2005_Undiscovered/tn/2005_undiscovered_009.jpg
http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2005_Undiscovered/tn/2005_undiscovered_008.jpg
Here's the trailer to his next film "Undiscovered"
http://www.imdb.com/rg/title-tease/trailers/title/tt0434424/trailers
gregtestagent
08-16-2005, 07:05 PM
I'm looking for someone who's age and physical features are mix between this guy's and Hugo Weaving's.
gregtestagent
08-16-2005, 07:07 PM
His brow is too big. He looks like me. But I have cheek-bones, noticeable cheek-bones. He won't do, and his age is working against him
blades_shades
08-16-2005, 07:08 PM
You can wax his eyebrows to look more Namorish and he has a good phsyique and he won't demand a huge salary and would likely gladly sign on for a multi-pic deal without demanding 100 million. I always thought Brandon Lee was the perfect Namor but he's dead. Jason Lee is getting too old I think but may still work, and Marc Dacoscos is also looking a bit too old.
Too bad Brandon!!!
http://www.completemartialarts.com/whoswho/actionstars/images/brandonlee.gif
Skaigear2
08-16-2005, 07:27 PM
Donnie Yen looks exactly like Namor to me.
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/1305/yen4ry.jpg
HighVoltage
08-16-2005, 10:55 PM
Donnie Yen looks exactly like Namor to me.
http://www.hkfilm.net/donyen4.jpg
Hey thatīs a good choice!!!!
Donny Yen for Namorīs Role.:up::up::cool::cool:
Savage
08-17-2005, 01:06 AM
Donnie Yen...wow. Never thought of that before.:) The idea alone makes me smile. I can easily see him as Namor(since I wanted him for DBZ's Vegeta as well, who is a very similar character).
Savage
08-17-2005, 01:07 AM
Steve Strait is a good choice for a young Namor though. Like the one in his latest series that was all anime and junk. But Donnie Yen...I can see him being a rival for Reed. Better looking, better shape, that whole royal pain in the ass thing goin, and most of all, it is very believable that they are around the same age.
halfmadjesus
08-17-2005, 02:02 AM
Guy made a nice debut in Sky High as the pseudo villain "Warren Peace". Did a bad ass job for a 1st timer and look like he could play Namor just fine. Thoughts?
They're going to need to cast at least a semi-star for this - similar to how Ben Affleck was the go-to guy for Daredevil and Wesley Snipes was the go-to guy for Blade. So no Steven Strait, Marc Dacascos, Hugo Weaving, or Donnie Yen, IMO.
Sub-Mariner doesn't have any built-in recognition like Spidey, Batman, or even FF. It'll be an expensive picture, so they've got to entice folks to go see it by at least putting up an actor a majority of people recognize. Like Jude (nanny f-er) Law, for example.
Savage
08-17-2005, 02:15 AM
...hmm...Got a point there...Matt Damon with dyed hair maybe? Maybe Leonardo DiCaprio with dyed hair...Or Johny Depp...Yeah...I can see him sweaping Sue off her feet and being a rival to Reed.:)...If he were ever to show up in an F4 movie of course. But not only that but he has the chops to pull off the character perfectly with ease.
Skaigear2
08-17-2005, 02:28 AM
They're going to need to cast at least a semi-star for this - similar to how Ben Affleck was the go-to guy for Daredevil and Wesley Snipes was the go-to guy for Blade. So no Steven Strait, Marc Dacascos, Hugo Weaving, or Donnie Yen, IMO.
Sub-Mariner doesn't have any built-in recognition like Spidey, Batman, or even FF. It'll be an expensive picture, so they've got to entice folks to go see it by at least putting up an actor a majority of people recognize. Like Jude (nanny f-er) Law, for example.
The name of comic might not sell itself like Spider-Man and X-Men did, but the film will. This is going to be an underwater epic, and if it looks spectacular from the trailers, people will flock to see it no matter who is Namor.
blades_shades
08-17-2005, 02:40 AM
I want an unknown for Namor not a personality. The story and the F/X will sell Namor. As if Indiana Jones had brand recognition before Raiders, I don't think Shrek had any brand recognition either, nor did Star Wars before the first films.
spider-jide
08-17-2005, 03:50 AM
some of you people are high.
Hugo weaving for Namor? Dicaprio? Damon? LMAO you cant be serious.
halfmadjesus
08-17-2005, 06:16 AM
The name of comic might not sell itself like Spider-Man and X-Men did, but the film will. This is going to be an underwater epic, and if it looks spectacular from the trailers, people will flock to see it no matter who is Namor.
I 'd agree with you if the film ended up costing $50-60 mil or so - then Universal might be able to take a chance with a relative unknown and hope the marketing can sell it. But Marvel keeps talking about the epic scope of this, so I'm assuming a $100 mil picture. That's too much of an investment to risk on no stars. You can get away with that on Hulk, or Batman, or something, where the character is well known enough that people will go see it anyway, but the studio is going to need more than FX to draw audiences to Sub-Mariner, IMO. Follow the Daredevil and Blade examples. There's a reason those particular actors were cast in the roles. At the time they were B-level stars - less expensive than an A-list star so as not to drain the budget too much, but still a draw to audiences. That's the model to follow.
I want an unknown for Namor not a personality. The story and the F/X will sell Namor. As if Indiana Jones had brand recognition before Raiders, I don't think Shrek had any brand recognition either, nor did Star Wars before the first films.
Raiders had Harrison Ford coming off Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back, plus the Lucas/Spielberg pedigree - so plenty of star-power to get butts in seats. Shrek had Mike Meyers, Cameron Diaz, and Eddie Murphy as voice talent - so plenty of star-power there, as well.
Star Wars itself was an anomaly. It's unrealistic to expect Sub-Mariner to luck out and benefit from the kind of rabid public support something like Star Wars or Titanic got - that kind of thing comes around once a generation or so. Star Wars was also a low budget picture.
It's possible a $100 mil Sub-Mariner movie with an unknown in the lead could be so fantastic that it captures audiences imaginations and becomes a blockbuster - but it'd be against all odds. That's not the way things are done in Hollywood. If it were MY $100 mil financing the picture, and the property itself wasn't capable of drawing its audience through a recognition factor, I'd hedge my bet and at least get a recognizable star to hang it on. And unless the budget ends up being more modest, that's exactly what the studio will do or risk losing their shirts.
blades_shades
08-17-2005, 12:53 PM
Lord of the Rings wasn't filled with so many famous personalities and didn't need a big star to sell it and don't tell me Peter Jackson was a well known A-List director to the public before these films. It was the story that everyone knew or heard of that helped sell it. I read the Hobbit a long time ago but never read the Lord of the Rings and suspect most of the people who saw the movie didn't read it either though a portion did. Namor doesn't have a following like this but the story is just as impressive. We got Columbus as the director which is a plus and a David Self script which pretty much assures quality. Also Namor should be a mysterious character or a alien character to audiences. The last thing I want to see is The Rock or some other personality being the Prince of Atlantis. Then it turns the whole film into a Rock vehicle. Don't want that. Matt Damon wouldn't be bad but I think we need someone younger and a fresh face.
blades_shades
08-17-2005, 12:55 PM
I always thought Lou Diamond Philips would be good for this role but he's looking old now. He's probably not too old but still...I think someone younger. He's got the look...or had the look a few years back.
http://entimg.msn.com/i/gal/HollywoodHomicide_Premiere/LouDiamondPhillips_350x435.jpg
Savage
08-17-2005, 01:10 PM
some of you people are high.
Hugo weaving for Namor? Dicaprio? Damon? LMAO you cant be serious.
Why not? Even I can look at Jackman's old soap opera eps and laugh at the idea of him as Wolverine. Or Christopher Reeve pre-Superman...or Michael Keaton, or Tom Jane, or Luke Goss(he was in a BOYBAND for christ's sake and became one of the most badass villains of all time in my book, NOMAK), I can go on with this...
I can see them all doing good jobs and I think they are all very capable and VERY right for the character...
Savage
08-17-2005, 01:11 PM
I always thought Lou Diamond Philips would be good for this role but he's looking old now. He's probably not too old but still...I think someone younger. He's got the look...or had the look a few years back.
http://entimg.msn.com/i/gal/HollywoodHomicide_Premiere/LouDiamondPhillips_350x435.jpg
Hmm...Maybe...Just maybe...I can see how he can LOOK like him but as for acting like him...hmm...Nah. I just keep thinking of him as more of his second-hand man or something but not Namor himself.
Union Jack
08-17-2005, 05:23 PM
i still think the rock looks right for the part!
blades_shades
08-17-2005, 05:30 PM
Yeah but when you see "the rock" are you going to be thinking Namor and get absorbed into the story or are you going to be thinking of "The Rock". He's too much of a known face or personality for the role IMO> He may very well get it though.
Union Jack
08-17-2005, 05:33 PM
i dont know he has made his name now not as just the rock but as dwayne johnson...i have liked all his films...looking forward to seeing "doom".
I think he looks right and has enough acting skills to pull off the pompous ruler of atlantis too!
halfmadjesus
08-17-2005, 05:34 PM
Lord of the Rings wasn't filled with so many famous personalities and didn't need a big star to sell it and don't tell me Peter Jackson was a well known A-List director to the public before these films. It was the story that everyone knew or heard of that helped sell it. I read the Hobbit a long time ago but never read the Lord of the Rings and suspect most of the people who saw the movie didn't read it either though a portion did.
The Tolkien books were well-known, with a very loyal fan following worldwide - much larger than anything Sub-Mariner has to offer. I'd also file LOTR under the "once in a generation" rule. The astronomical success of those films defied all expectations. New Line's commitment to make the movies has been described as one of the biggest risks in motion picture history that paid off - it's unrealistic to expect Sub-Mariner to climb that same mountain. Notice, too, no MAJOR studio made those movies - not Warner, or Universal, or Paramount. They all COULD have, but it took an upstart like New Line to see the potential.
All and still, I'd expect New Line would have liked some stars in the LOTR films, but the $300 mil was going on screen, basically. They didn't have money left over for name actors, and were counting on the spectacle and the fan following of Tolkien's work to sell tickets. Thus, "one of the biggests risks in motion picture history." 'Nuff said.
Namor doesn't have a following like this but the story is just as impressive. We got Columbus as the director which is a plus and a David Self script which pretty much assures quality. Also Namor should be a mysterious character or a alien character to audiences. The last thing I want to see is The Rock or some other personality being the Prince of Atlantis. Then it turns the whole film into a Rock vehicle. Don't want that. Matt Damon wouldn't be bad but I think we need someone younger and a fresh face.
I can understand wanting the character over an actor, but there may be an appropriate, established actor who could embody Namor and still have a name worth putting on a movie poster. I still say Jude Law, with his triangle-head, rising hairline, appeal to the ladies, and haughty, "I'm better than you" natural disposition that makes all straight men everywhere hate him is Namor's character personified. And he's a legitimate, B-level leading man of appropriate age and (perhaps most importantly) cost. There may be other choices as appropriate, but Hugo Weaving ain't one of 'em, IMO.
spider-jide
08-17-2005, 07:34 PM
Why not? Even I can look at Jackman's old soap opera eps and laugh at the idea of him as Wolverine. Or Christopher Reeve pre-Superman...or Michael Keaton, or Tom Jane, or Luke Goss(he was in a BOYBAND for christ's sake and became one of the most badass villains of all time in my book, NOMAK), I can go on with this...
I can see them all doing good jobs and I think they are all very capable and VERY right for the character...
I really dont. :o :down
ObakeTora
08-17-2005, 10:10 PM
No
Rock Is Namor Dammit!!!!
Guy made a nice debut in Sky High as the pseudo villain "Warren Peace". Did a bad ass job for a 1st timer and look like he could play Namor just fine. Thoughts?
http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/-/5/7/skyhighpubi.jpg
Oh jeez you've got to be joking? The guy or kid from Sky High? Isn't this guy a teen? If not he's no more then 21 or 22. NO, no, no, no. Not namor at all, no where near. His acting in SH was average, he needs more expierence and add about 10 years in age.
You need someone older and with more presence for namor. Namor needs to be over 6 ft. I'd sasy between 6 ft- 6'3 max. Also he needs to be muscualr. Not like a bodybulider, but a buff enough guy.
I can't think of many Hollywood actors that would fit Namor and a studio would invest a 100 million into it. Water films are expansive. A year ago probably when suggestions was hot here for Namor I said Jason Behr from Roswell would be cool, or Eddie Cibrian from that flick The Cave that is coming out, or Johnny Messner from that Anacondas film but no studio is going to front the budget with these guy in the lead. I also was down with Jude law, but his height and size was a little iffy for me, but I knew his acting would be good, but as of late he's proven that he's supporting man material and not leading man, with his string of flops earlier this year where he was the lead.
blades_shades
08-19-2005, 02:55 PM
You don't want someone too old though. We need someone in his mid 20's and no older unless their face defies aging. I also want an unknown who will not be a distraction and will fit in with the fact that Namor on screen and his world is unknown by today's audiences. You don't really want to see a too familiar face as the lead role. Forget the Rock.
CaptainStacy
08-19-2005, 08:38 PM
I would prefer Donny Yen.
Strait looks like he is playing hooky from the local junior high.
halfmadjesus
08-20-2005, 04:20 PM
You need someone older and with more presence for namor. Namor needs to be over 6 ft. I'd sasy between 6 ft- 6'3 max. Also he needs to be muscualr. Not like a bodybulider, but a buff enough guy.
The height/weight stuff is totally unimportant, because there's lots of ways to overcome that by how they shoot the movie - such as hiring a shorter lead actress, for example. As long as they don't cast a Michael J. Fox-sized actor, movie magic can make it work. It's much more important that they cast appropriate-to-character. Which is why I'm still on about the Jude Law thing, because I can't think of another viable star who embodies as many of Namor's essential qualities. Not being a 6'2", 250 lb. guy is the only strike against him, but Wolfgang Petersen was all game to cast Law as SUPERMAN, so...?
You don't want someone too old though. We need someone in his mid 20's and no older unless their face defies aging. I also want an unknown who will not be a distraction and will fit in with the fact that Namor on screen and his world is unknown by today's audiences. You don't really want to see a too familiar face as the lead role. Forget the Rock.
I'm not a fan of the Rock choice, either - as far as I can see it, what the Rock has going for him is that he's an appropriate-level star to carry a movie like this, and he's a big, muscular guy who a lot of people with no imagination can see as a superhero. That's all he brings to the table. He's not the character - any Sub-Mariner script made for a film starring the Rock would tailor Namor's character to fit the star - not the other way around. Namor would suddenly be cracking one-liners, then poking good-natured fun at himself and raising an eyebrow. That I wouldn't want to see.
As far as the age thing goes, I wouldn't want to see them cast the likes of Hugo Weaving, who at near-50, is too old for the part, but I don't think they necessarily have to cast an actor in their early-20's, either. Namor may be eternally young, but so is Mr. Spock, apparently, yet they didn't feel the need to re-cast Leonard Nimoy at any point. People won't care - as long as it's not some geriatric in the speedo, they'll buy it without any problems.
I don't disagree that the best movie superheroes tend to be unknown or lesser-known actors - it's easier for audiences to accept a character when they're not seeing a "movie star." But I really don't think they have the luxury of casting an unknown for this particular character/budget. The only potential lies with Chris Columbus, who is respected enough as a director that he might be able to convince Universal to hire an unknown lead if that's something he really, really wants to do. And he'll have to fight for it, probably.
Seriously, I'd give up on the "Donnie Yen" suggestions, because there's about a .001% chance of that actually happening.
Savage
08-20-2005, 05:54 PM
The thing is though, getting a big name actor takes money, which raises the budget and raises the risk. I mean Hulk alone without a big name actor cost like 120 mill I think and luckily made well over 200 mill worldwide. I remember it making about a 100 mill profit anyway. And that was a pretty well known character. Namor isn't but would cost about as much. Add a big name actor and it's going to cost even MORE than that and maybe even if they do make money, it won't be much. But who knows really. It can go either way...What I'd do though is make some kind of trilogy out of it. Spread the money. That's how movies like Kill Bill made a crapload of money with their budgets. LOTR. The Matrix sequels. It's the big thing now and that's because it works.
...Although I'd prefer they do all this with a Thor movie but hey, it's a Namor thread.
...Honestly, I'd prefer both him and Silver Surfer appear in Fantastic Four as opposed to spin-offs...Namor for 2, SS for 3 along with Galactus.
halfmadjesus
08-20-2005, 08:00 PM
The thing is though, getting a big name actor takes money, which raises the budget and raises the risk. I mean Hulk alone without a big name actor cost like 120 mill I think and luckily made well over 200 mill worldwide. I remember it making about a 100 mill profit anyway. And that was a pretty well known character. Namor isn't but would cost about as much. Add a big name actor and it's going to cost even MORE than that and maybe even if they do make money, it won't be much. But who knows really. It can go either way...What I'd do though is make some kind of trilogy out of it. Spread the money. That's how movies like Kill Bill made a crapload of money with their budgets. LOTR. The Matrix sequels. It's the big thing now and that's because it works.
That'd be fine if the studio was confident an audience would be there beyond the first picture. An initial Sub-Mariner movie - especially one with no stars - could bomb as badly as The Island or Stealth. THEN where do you go with your trilogy? In the case of The Matrix and Kill Bill, both WB and Miramax could be confident up-front that they'd make their money back. In the case of LOTR, it was a big commitment by New Line - $300 mil to get the ball rolling. "One of the biggest gambles in Hollywood history," right? Can't expect that kind of commitment for Namor.
I'm not saying land Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise - THOSE are big name actors. And yes, that would affect the budget, but it would also raise the profile of the film worldwide. I'm saying get a fairly well-known but not terribly expensive actor, of which Jude Law is an example, and the Rock is another. Someone who HAS headlined some Hollywood movies in the past.
Look at Daredevil and Blade. Both characters unknown outside of comic fans, just like Sub-Mariner. Both productions opted to go with a lead actor who could bring a little star power to the film. It's the reason those pictures got made, frankly. Without Wesley Snipes, Blade would never have happened, IMO. It was his involvement that bumped it from being just something the studio was working on to becoming an actual movie. Same deal with Daredevil. Say what you will about Affleck, but if a star of his caliber hadn't signed on, Fox may not have gone through with making the movie, even to capitalize on Spider-Man's success. The film certainly would have had a lower budget.
Savage
08-21-2005, 01:16 AM
Very good points but what I meant about the budget is that Kill Bill for example, made a crapload of money off of volume 1 alone. And because it was originally one big movie with just one budget, Vol. 2 was like all profit.
I see what you mean though but it's just that I don't want a movie with a really big star and crappy effects thanks to payment of said big star. I'd prefer to just have a really well written and great looking movie with capable cast and a decent budget than anything else. I think that Namor's story and concept alone will do it good, much like the LOTR trilogy or The Matrix(people certainly weren't seeing it for Keanu Reeves).
I'm not saying land Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise - THOSE are big name actors.That I can deal with. Thought you meant someone that would like seriously hinder the budget like Cruise who takes up half. :)
halfmadjesus
08-21-2005, 01:51 AM
Very good points but what I meant about the budget is that Kill Bill for example, made a crapload of money off of volume 1 alone. And because it was originally one big movie with just one budget, Vol. 2 was like all profit.
Basically, what Miramax did with Kill Bill was split a $60 mil film into two $30 mil films. Which was SMART as hell, IMO, because regardless of the intent, they got people to pay twice for seeing one movie. Or they got two movies for the price of one - depends on how you want to look at it. They couldn't lose. Kill Bill was a sure money-maker out of the gate. Now, if they'd released it as one film - not such a sure thing. The same Tarantino fans who generated $60-70 mil box office for each part would've done that ONCE, Kill Bill would've made $60-70 mil total and barely broke even.
Keep in mind even for one picture $60 mil is kind of medium-budget. Miramax knew all along Tarantino's name was going to deliver a certain audience. Again, it's not like a Sub-Mariner movie with no stars. QT is a star when it comes to promoting your film. Just look how Sin City went about using his name for promotion.
I suppose if you could package $100 mil for TWO Sub-Mariner movies up-front, plus a DIRECTOR you could put on a movie poster to draw in an audience, you might have something. But I doubt it could be done. And there's not many directors who fit the bill - Tarantino, Spielberg, Lucas, Scorsese, maybe. The cream of the crop. Even shot back-to-back you'd probably end up spending more than $100 mil on two FX-heavy action pictures. Matrix 2 & 3 cost $300 mil. That's an extreme example, but you can see how even two films of this variety might require a substantial investment.
That I can deal with. Thought you meant someone that would like seriously hinder the budget like Cruise who takes up half. :)
And points on the back end. But studios and producers always grab the likes of Cruise or Pitt if they can get them, because they're worth a lot more money coming in worldwide. I'm not saying I'd want to SEE a Tom Cruise Sub-Mariner movie, but if they were to land Tom Cruise for it, the issue of character recognition is no longer an issue. Now it's TOM CRUISE as Sub-Mariner, so the film is going to make a minimum of $300 mil worldwide, and the studio will approve almost any budget.
murdock_matt
08-21-2005, 10:03 PM
How about Sean Maher from Firefly? Especially during the opening credits, he looks like he could pull off Namor.
http://us.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0303461/Ss/0303461/5869100_2_25.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Maher,%20Sean%20(I)
http://us.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0303461/Ss/0303461/5869100_2_25.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Maher,%20Sean%20(I)
Mauser9910
08-22-2005, 01:48 AM
http://www.multimania.com/atromy/namor.JPG
For what it's worth, I did once this photomanip of the actor who played the Groosalug (sp? lol) on the Angel tv serie. I can't remember his name. :o
But maybe an actor with more Polynesian features could work better...
halfmadjesus
08-22-2005, 04:14 AM
Great - another actor so obscure even YOU don't know his name. I can see Universal writing out that check for $100 million right now!
Sorry. I realize everybody's got their personal favorites - and in many cases it's a "how big of an unknown can I find" kind of thing, because that's more interesting than just coming up with "Leonardo DiCaprio" - but could we TRY a few rounds of casting a legitimate actor? Someone who's done more than a TV guest spot, for example. Just give it a shot to see if people here can go without resorting to "Marc Dacascos" or "that dude from Roswell."
For starters, both Jude Law and the Rock have been the star of several Hollywood movies. Not just a guy who APPEARED in a couple movies, but the actual star - someone who's name they made sure to put on the movie poster. Someone handed the task of convincing people to come into the theater. Law even got nominated for an Oscar once - THAT looks good on a resume!
DiCaprio, I think, was mentioned earlier. Let me say this much: If the producers could get Leonardo DiCaprio as Sub-Mariner, Universal would greenlight this tomorrow with a $125 mil budget. That's just the truth - DiCaprio is a huge star. But he's also extremely picky about the roles he chooses, and may not be game to commit himself to a decade's worth of Sub-Mariner movies. That's the danger of shooting too big - a high-demand star like that will have high demands of their own. It may be wiser to aim lower. But not too low.
See what else you can come up with.
twinfrodo
08-23-2005, 02:19 AM
http://www.multimania.com/atromy/namor.JPG
For what it's worth, I did once this photomanip of the actor who played the Groosalug (sp? lol) on the Angel tv serie. I can't remember his name. :o
But maybe an actor with more Polynesian features could work better...
His name is Mark Lutz I never considered him for Namor pretty good choice.
halfmadjesus
08-23-2005, 04:15 AM
His name is Mark Lutz I never considered him for Namor pretty good choice.
Yeah, for a $2 mil indie production of Sub-Mariner, he'd be great.
roach
08-23-2005, 05:02 AM
I think Arnold vosloo(the actor from the Mummy) would make a good Namor
Savage
08-23-2005, 08:17 AM
You mean the actor who played the mummy himself? I give a definate thumbs up to that choice. :up:
pishposh
08-23-2005, 02:30 PM
That mark lutz guy's got pretty amazing eyebrows.
Steven Strait is too young to play namor....as hot as he is. Danny Yen....eh, I'm not too taken on that idea either.
roach
08-23-2005, 05:38 PM
You mean the actor who played the mummy himself? I give a definate thumbs up to that choice. :up:
Yup and I can see studios giving money for him to play the lead...he did play Darkman...the sequel anyhow
celldog
08-23-2005, 07:19 PM
I always thought Lou Diamond Philips would be good for this role but he's looking old now. He's probably not too old but still...I think someone younger. He's got the look...or had the look a few years back.
http://entimg.msn.com/i/gal/HollywoodHomicide_Premiere/LouDiamondPhillips_350x435.jpg
You're kidding...... :eek:
ChinoXL
08-23-2005, 09:57 PM
Donnie Yen, daammnnn..that would be an incredible choice
halfmadjesus
08-23-2005, 10:57 PM
Yup and I can see studios giving money for him to play the lead...he did play Darkman...the sequel anyhow
Right. The straight-to-video sequel. Where his face was covered up 50% of the time. If you honestly think any studio would shell out $100 million for a picture with "the guy who played the Mummy" as its main star, then you are high on crack. Sorry, but it's just the truth. Nothing against Vosloo. He's a fine character actor.
Look, one of the things about Sub-Mariner that differentiates him from other superheroes is he doesn't wear a mask or anything covering his face. This is sometimes why studios have been apprehensive about casting a big star - why pay the money if the audience is only going to see the actor half the time, right? This is not true in Namor's case. You could potentially cast Tom Cruise and get Tom Cruise's face in every scene. Therefore, THEY WILL BE CASTING A STAR FOR THIS!! At least a reasonably well-known actor. One that doesn't require going on IMDB to check the cast to come up with "Arnold Vosloo" as "the guy who played the Mummy."
Daredevil = Ben Affleck. Blade = Wesley Snipes. Constantine = Keanu Reeves. Ghost Rider = Nicholas Cage. Sense a pattern?
Skaigear2
08-24-2005, 02:47 AM
Right. The straight-to-video sequel. Where his face was covered up 50% of the time. If you honestly think any studio would shell out $100 million for a picture with "the guy who played the Mummy" as its main star, then you are high on crack. Sorry, but it's just the truth. Nothing against Vosloo. He's a fine character actor.
Look, one of the things about Sub-Mariner that differentiates him from other superheroes is he doesn't wear a mask or anything covering his face. This is sometimes why studios have been apprehensive about casting a big star - why pay the money if the audience is only going to see the actor half the time, right? This is not true in Namor's case. You could potentially cast Tom Cruise and get Tom Cruise's face in every scene. Therefore, THEY WILL BE CASTING A STAR FOR THIS!! At least a reasonably well-known actor. One that doesn't require going on IMDB to check the cast to come up with "Arnold Vosloo" as "the guy who played the Mummy."
Daredevil = Ben Affleck. Blade = Wesley Snipes. Constantine = Keanu Reeves. Ghost Rider = Nicholas Cage. Sense a pattern?
Dude, who the hell cares?
Our words are not the final say, we don't cast, they do. Our choices are merely our oppinions, nothing more. Does us wanting Donnie Yen to play Namor really affects the official casting choice at all...? I don't know why you're getting so worked up with this.
halfmadjesus
08-24-2005, 10:01 AM
Dude, who the hell cares?
Our words are not the final say, we don't cast, they do. Our choices are merely our oppinions, nothing more. Does us wanting Donnie Yen to play Namor really affects the official casting choice at all...? I don't know why you're getting so worked up with this.
Because these casting threads always amount to, "what D-list actor can I dig up who I think ought to play this character?" That's fine and all, I'm just trying to give folks a reality check - because most here seem detached from reality if they think Donnie Yen or Arnold Vosloo are viable, realistic choices - and put it to you that suggesting choices of actors who might realistically, actually be able to play the part could be interesting to try for a CHANGE.
But people can't seem to do it. If they can't toss out "Marc Dacascos," then it's crickets chirping, basically.
terry78
08-24-2005, 05:01 PM
I hear talk that they may be interested in Daniel Dae Kim as well. He does look eerily like the character.
halfmadjesus
08-24-2005, 09:32 PM
You wouldn't happen to be Daniel Dae Kim, would you?
Anyhow, I guess it helps that Kim has had bit parts in two other Marvel movies, but that doesn't exactly qualify him for the lead in a $100 mil franchise. The popularity of "Lost" gives him some recognizability, but he's really only a TV star at this point. Seems doubtful to me that the studio would seriously consider him.
Personally, I don't see the eerie resemblance to the character - but I've never considered eyebrows = asian for Namor.
Skaigear2
08-24-2005, 10:43 PM
You wouldn't happen to be Daniel Dae Kim, would you?
Anyhow, I guess it helps that Kim has had bit parts in two other Marvel movies, but that doesn't exactly qualify him for the lead in a $100 mil franchise. The popularity of "Lost" gives him some recognizability, but he's really only a TV star at this point. Seems doubtful to me that the studio would seriously consider him.
Personally, I don't see the eerie resemblance to the character - but I've never considered eyebrows = asian for Namor.
So what if he's Asian, man? Does it matter? Don't tell me the real reason you got all upset was because most of us want Donnie Yen as Namor.
halfmadjesus
08-25-2005, 09:00 AM
So what if he's Asian, man? Does it matter? Don't tell me the real reason you got all upset was because most of us want Donnie Yen as Namor.
"Most of you?" I only count a few people here ever pimping hard for Donnie Yen.
If the actor were otherwise perfect for the role in terms of character, age, star-level and all that stuff - and also happened to be Asian - I wouldn't care at all. That'd be great. What I'm saying is I don't look at Sub-Mariner and automatically think "cast an Asian guy." The character's not Asian. He's MISTAKEN for Asian, and because of the eyebrow situation and what-not, people have sometimes thought Bill Everett based him on an Asian's features, but that's actually not the case. When asked, I believe Everett said that's not what he had in mind - he just designed features he thought looked unique and interesting. Or maybe he was just being PC due to WWII. Who knows?
I've always kind of thought whoever designed the make-up for Mr. Spock must have been a Sub-Mariner fan as a kid. Leonard Nimoy isn't Asian - he's Jewish.
halfmadjesus
08-25-2005, 09:12 AM
But since you brought up Donnie Yen as a choice "most" people want around here, let me tell you what I think of him specifically:
At 42, he's probably too old for the part realistically, despite being in great physical shape.
His English is not that great, obviously. Any American films he's been in have only required him to speak a few lines, if that. That's not going to work for Namor - the actor has to able to communicate fluently in English in order to pull off the task of centering a film like this.
While a big star in Asia, Donnie Yen is only known in the U.S. to fans of Hong Kong cinema. He is not a box office draw, or even what I'd consider a "known" actor by any stretch of the imagination.
Three strikes, you're out.
Skaigear2
08-25-2005, 03:34 PM
Dude are you seriously a racist? Even though you don't show it, I can feel an intolerant anger behind your words.
If the actor were otherwise perfect for the role in terms of character, age, star-level and all that stuff - and also happened to be Asian - I wouldn't care at all. That'd be great. What I'm saying is I don't look at Sub-Mariner and automatically think "cast an Asian guy." The character's not Asian. He's MISTAKEN for Asian, and because of the eyebrow situation and what-not, people have sometimes thought Bill Everett based him on an Asian's features, but that's actually not the case. When asked, I believe Everett said that's not what he had in mind - he just designed features he thought looked unique and interesting. Or maybe he was just being PC due to WWII. Who knows?
I've always kind of thought whoever designed the make-up for Mr. Spock must have been a Sub-Mariner fan as a kid. Leonard Nimoy isn't Asian - he's Jewish.
So Namor's white?
At 42, he's probably too old for the part realistically, despite being in great physical shape.
Er... why's that? If a 40 year-old man can pass for a 30 year-old because he's in great shape, why'd that be bad?
His English is not that great, obviously. Any American films he's been in have only required him to speak a few lines, if that. That's not going to work for Namor - the actor has to able to communicate fluently in English in order to pull off the task of centering a film like this.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA......!!!!! You're killing me man. :D
I'm pretty sure Donnie Yen's American. He grew up street fighting in Boston and not until he was in his 20's he moved to Hong Kong to persue his career. He can't speak English? Haha that just proves you know jack about the man. His English is as good as any average American, but now has just a slight twinge of a Cantonese accent because of all his years in Hong Kong. If you have the Blade II DVD, just pop in disc 2 and watch some interviews with him.
OMG I can't believe you just attempted to use that as a negative against him.
While a big star in Asia, Donnie Yen is only known in the U.S. to fans of Hong Kong cinema. He is not a box office draw, or even what I'd consider a "known" actor by any stretch of the imagination.
Again..... who the hell cares?
blades_shades
08-25-2005, 03:39 PM
Jewish is a religion not a race anyways kids.
twinfrodo
08-25-2005, 03:45 PM
Well I don't think Namor has to be a certain race I don't remeber his father was human but did they ever say what race he was. I think the way he looks is because he is a mix between a regular person and an Antlantian but I don't know exactly what race he is supposed to be on his human half. I think this is a role that they could pick any race and people would be pretty fine with it (cuz obviously they aren't going to change characters like Storm or anything)
Skaigear2
08-25-2005, 06:09 PM
Jewish is a religion not a race anyways kids.
Trust me, some people seriuously don't know this. I feel sorry for them.
halfmadjesus
08-26-2005, 02:32 AM
Dude are you seriously a racist? Even though you don't show it, I can feel an intolerant anger behind your words.
I'm not even going to dignify that bait with a reply.
So Namor's white?
That's the skin-tone they give him in the comics, but not necessarily. I'm saying he's not necessarily Asian, either. Because of his features, some have thought this was the case, but Sub-Mariner's creator has said that wasn't what he had in mind. Make of all that what you will.
Er... why's that? If a 40 year-old man can pass for a 30 year-old because he's in great shape, why'd that be bad?
I don't think he passes for 30, but won't argue your point. If you consider, though, that the idea would be to make a string of Sub-Mariner films over the course of a decade, you're looking at a 50+ year-old man in a speedo by the time you get to the end. Namor's supposed to be an immortal? Not show age? The originator of the thread wanted to cast someone in their early 20's specifically because of this.
Age might not completely rule out Yen if all other factors were in his favor, but his age definitely makes him less desireable than someone a decade or so younger.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA......!!!!! You're killing me man. :D
I'm pretty sure Donnie Yen's American. He grew up street fighting in Boston and not until he was in his 20's he moved to Hong Kong to persue his career. He can't speak English? Haha that just proves you know jack about the man. His English is as good as any average American, but now has just a slight twinge of a Cantonese accent because of all his years in Hong Kong. If you have the Blade II DVD, just pop in disc 2 and watch some interviews with him.
OMG I can't believe you just attempted to use that as a negative against him.
You may be right. Yen HAS spent most of his life in China, and was born there, but did spend time in Boston between the ages of 4-19. This is something I was unaware of. I don't know every detail about the man's life - sorry to disappoint a Yen-fan. Although all that doesn't necessarily mean he's a fluent speaker of English, either. I've seen the Blade interviews - it was from those I determined English was obviously Yen's second language. That, and the fact that he's been given few or NO lines in the American films in which he's appeared. Usually, that means English is somewhat of a problem. It's a very common thing for Hong Kong actors - Jackie Chan, Chow Yun Fat, etc.
Even though I made an assumption, the fact that Yen is not a star in the US is more than enough to keep him from being anyone's first casting choice, regardless of age, nationality, or his ability to speak English. But you keep on pimping for him - maybe someone will hear you.
Again..... who the hell cares?
You do, obviously.
Jewish is a religion not a race anyways kids.
Jews may as well be a race. They have their own country. They suffer prejudice and hatred all over the world due to the things that make them different. Many band together in their own communities where they try to preserve their culture and beliefs. Except for the color of their skin being white, Jews experience most of things typically associated with race.
ObakeTora
08-27-2005, 06:31 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/reflect4ever/RockIsNamor.jpg
My money is still on The Rock.
Saying "jewish" is not a race but a religion, is neither a falsehood nor even close to a truth.
First of all "Jewish" is an adjective not a noun. What a Jew is, is far less simplistic than anything anyone here has described what a Jew is.
Judaism shares some of the characteristics of a nation, an ethnicity, a religion, and a culture, making the definition of who is a Jew vary slightly depending on whether a religious or national approach to identity is used.
ObakeTora
08-27-2005, 08:11 PM
Rock for Namor dammit!
Dr. Fate
08-27-2005, 10:59 PM
http://www.film.org.pl/images/robin/robin2.jpg Michael Praed could have been Namor once...
w@llcrawler
08-30-2005, 01:19 PM
Judaism shares some of the characteristics of a nation, an ethnicity, a religion, and a culture, making the definition of who is a Jew vary slightly depending on whether a religious or national approach to identity is used.
Seriously some people do not know this. I feel sorry for them.
w@llcrawler
08-30-2005, 01:39 PM
I just wanted to say that to play someone as regal as Nomor is supposed to be you need someone who has a little more acting chops than the Rock. I remember reading letters years ago about how Shawn Michael would be PERFECT for Spider-man because he had the same build and was acrobatic. Thank goodness we dodged that bullet. Before that, baseballer George Brett was seriously being considered for the part! Unbelievable!
For those of you who think Steven Straight would be good in the role, check out the cover for the upcoming Ultimate FF #25.
http://www.forbidden-planet.co.uk/acatalog/UF025.jpg
AS far as race goes for deciding who should play a Marvel character, we've already seen that it didn't matter for the Kingpin or Alicia Masters or even Elektra for that matter, so why even make it a factor when doing these casting ideas?
Dr. Fate
08-30-2005, 06:56 PM
For those of you who think Steven Straight would be good in the role, check out the cover for the upcoming Ultimate FF #25.
http://www.forbidden-planet.co.uk/acatalog/UF025.jpg
AS far as race goes for deciding who should play a Marvel character, we've already seen that it didn't matter for the Kingpin or Alicia Masters or even Elektra for that matter, so why even make it a factor when doing these casting ideas?
Because some liberties should not be taken.
Denmaximus
08-31-2005, 04:53 AM
The Rock would be awesome for the roll.
Ian Somerhalder (from Lost)'s name has been tossed around too.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/dennman/5141.jpg
w@llcrawler
08-31-2005, 11:08 AM
The Rock would be awesome for the roll.
Namor: What did you say, Attuma?
Attuma: I said...
Namor: It doesn't MATTER what you said! If you can SMEEEELLLLL....what the sub-MARINERRR....IS cookiinnnnn'...
Sounds good to me.
Philly Phanboy
08-31-2005, 06:27 PM
Namor: What did you say, Attuma?
Attuma: I said...
Namor: It doesn't MATTER what you said! If you can SMEEEELLLLL....what the sub-MARINERRR....IS cookiinnnnn'...
Sounds good to me.
Please don't get this thread started on using the Rock again. :(
w@llcrawler
08-31-2005, 06:31 PM
Please don't get this thread started on using the Rock again. :(
Thank you!
blades_shades
08-31-2005, 06:35 PM
I do NOT want The Rock any any Marvel film where he has to speak or look at the camera. I had a second though for a few days but then came to my senses. He really no physical skills other than looking big and raising his eyebrow. He has too much baggage in my mind. Whenver you seem him lumber through an action sequence it has to be done with quick cut scenes and slow motion to hide the fact that he isn't believeable. The only film that his personality would fit is Luke Cage but he needs to have more than a personality for that role since he doesn't look like Cage at all. Back to Namor...hell I'd rather have Vin Diesel as an angry Prince of Atlantis over The Rock though we all know that ain't happening. We basically need an unknown to play the role to make the character seem real.
ObakeTora
08-31-2005, 06:42 PM
oh c'mon you know Rock has more talent then just raising his eyebrows. The reason I pick him for Namor, was that his career didnt jump off only after he became a heel. I simply don't understand where you find fault with Rock's acting skills. Did you see the Rundown, the man was good, and nothing like Hogan playing those typecasted roles as a goody gooody. I know he could pull this role off, you all pick these skinny little kids who when watching in tights Id vomit up all my popcorn. This movie was made for the Rock. Think about this movie, you have to sit through a half naked guy in speedos for 2 hours. The Rock is perfect for this role. Namor is listed at 300 lbs, Rock is around 260-275. Rock is half Samoan, a water culture. Namor was Prince of the seas. Think about it. and when you do.... ROCK FOR NAMOR DAMMIT!
btw, Rock isnt slow, he moves like a cat. Remember Royal Rumble? The guy was all over the place! gimme a break!!!
OH and by the way since Namor is the most hated character, and I guess you all hate the Rock so much, I don't see the big deal.
The only film that his personality would fit is Luke Cage but he needs to have more than a personality for that role since he doesn't look like Cage at all.
Not to pick but you just contradicted yourself. No way in Hell could Rock pull off Cage. The Naacp would call for a boycott of Marvel (j/k) Rock isnt urban. He's a smart buff big blk/Samoan guy. Give Rock a chance, he's somewhat of an unknown. But I beleive he deserves this chance because he looks and can act the part. Your just mad cuz he pinned the Undertaker! J/K!!! :P
Lou Diamond Phillips?
Oh c'mon now!!!!!
Hey Blades?
C'MON!!!!!!!http://images.zap2it.com/20050310/michaelmcdonald.jpg
Philly Phanboy
08-31-2005, 06:54 PM
Hey, don't go misinterpreting my post. I could easily see Rock as Deathlok, but just not as Namor.
Just watch, once the movie Doom is released, everybody will be jumping on the Rock for Deathlok bandwagon. :up:
ObakeTora
08-31-2005, 06:57 PM
forget Doom. You guys gave Arnie a break after that lame movie The Last Action Hero. You want The Rock to starve? bESIDES dANY gLOVER WOULD MAKE A BETTER dEATHLOK. (sorry for the all caps being on) You watch somewhere in a theater when Doom is being played and when Rock comes on Im gonna yell out NAMOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mauser9910
09-01-2005, 02:06 AM
That mark lutz guy's got pretty amazing eyebrows.
It's because I did a manip on them and the tip of his ears as well ! :)
Twinfrodo, thanks for reminding me the name, I was too busy on this month contest to even do a search lol ! :)
I don't think it's a handicap nowadays to be a tv actor to land bigger roles in movies.
I've seen Daniel Dae Kim mentionned (he was in Spider-Man 2 btw) and he appeared noticeably on Angel, 24, The Shield before Lost.
Marvel is making a point at getting the RIGHT people for the parts, not the biggest names they can sign.
Mauser9910
09-01-2005, 02:12 AM
The Rock impressed me a lot in Be Cool, but he doesn't strike me as Namor either.
I'd like to see him on a Marvel film, I don't which part, right now I can only picture him as Wyatt Wingfoot, She-Hulk's boy toy lol... :)
Back to Namor, Daniel Day-Lewis sounded like a good idea a few years back but he'll probably look too old for the part once the film production begins.
Philly Phanboy
09-01-2005, 11:40 AM
How about Scott Speedman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005454/) for Namor? You're going to need an actor that can swim (duh!) and Scott was training to make the Canadian swim team. He's not overly tall at only 5'11 but he's relatively muscular.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/xxx__state_of_the_union/scott_speedman/xxx2preg.jpg
Give the man some weird eyebrows and pointy ears! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif
blades_shades
09-01-2005, 11:44 AM
I know you guys are going to laugh and I personally haven't seen much talent in Ashton Kutchner but hell he does fit the part as far as looks...or he could easily be made to look that way.
http://www.poster.net/kutcher-ashton/kutcher-ashton-photo-ashton-kutcher-6226616.jpg
My biggest problem with him is he's mainly known as an MTV jokester. Can he shake off that image or is it just way too late, and more importantly can he act serious. Butterfly Effect was a good start. I wouldn't complain if he got the role but I'm still leaning towards and unknown to avoid the kind of baggage that Ashton or The Rock brings with them.
blades_shades
09-01-2005, 11:50 AM
oh c'mon you know Rock has more talent then just raising his eyebrows. The reason I pick him for Namor, was that his career didnt jump off only after he became a heel. I simply don't understand where you find fault with Rock's acting skills. Did you see the Rundown, the man was good, and nothing like Hogan playing those typecasted roles as a goody gooody. I know he could pull this role off, you all pick these skinny little kids who when watching in tights Id vomit up all my popcorn. This movie was made for the Rock. Think about this movie, you have to sit through a half naked guy in speedos for 2 hours. The Rock is perfect for this role. Namor is listed at 300 lbs, Rock is around 260-275. Rock is half Samoan, a water culture. Namor was Prince of the seas. Think about it. and when you do.... ROCK FOR NAMOR DAMMIT!
btw, Rock isnt slow, he moves like a cat. Remember Royal Rumble? The guy was all over the place! gimme a break!!!
OH and by the way since Namor is the most hated character, and I guess you all hate the Rock so much, I don't see the big deal.
The only film that his personality would fit is Luke Cage but he needs to have more than a personality for that role since he doesn't look like Cage at all.
Not to pick but you just contradicted yourself. No way in Hell could Rock pull off Cage. The Naacp would call for a boycott of Marvel (j/k) Rock isnt urban. He's a smart buff big blk/Samoan guy. Give Rock a chance, he's somewhat of an unknown. But I beleive he deserves this chance because he looks and can act the part. Your just mad cuz he pinned the Undertaker! J/K!!! :P
Lou Diamond Phillips?
Oh c'mon now!!!!!
Hey Blades?
C'MON!!!!!!!http://images.zap2it.com/20050310/michaelmcdonald.jpg
Oh God who the hell is that twink.
w@llcrawler
09-01-2005, 12:40 PM
Oh God who the hell is that twink.
Isn't that Tom Cavanaugh? He used to play on Ed.
WallCrawl
09-01-2005, 01:07 PM
Isn't that Tom Cavanaugh? He used to play on Ed.
HA!
In case you weren't kidding, that's Mike McDonald from MadTV.
blades_shades
09-02-2005, 12:35 PM
Howabout Jim Carey?
http://www.kinoweb.de/filme/Cableguy/pix/cabl15.jpg
Blades_Shades: A very, very, very large number of people loathe Ashton Kutcher. Way more than most high profile actors. It's really not a cogent suggestion at all, even if you get points for casting against type.
blades_shades
09-02-2005, 04:32 PM
Isn't that Tom Cavanaugh? He used to play on Ed.
Don't know who that is but he looks like a gay version of Will Farrell so keep him away from me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
w@llcrawler
09-02-2005, 05:43 PM
HA!
In case you weren't kidding, that's Mike McDonald from MadTV.
Nah I thought it was Tom.
http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/5670490.jpg
http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif
Neither of them could play Namor IMO.
blades_shades
09-02-2005, 06:09 PM
http://www.sankei.co.jp/mov/jpeg/0830cableGuy_02.jpeg
Give Jim Carey a shot man.
Philly Phanboy
11-05-2005, 11:58 AM
http://www.sankei.co.jp/mov/jpeg/0830cableGuy_02.jpeg
Give Jim Carey a shot man.
An underwater Ace Ventura. :down:rolleyes:
I still say either Scott Speedman or Matt Bomer.
I wonder if the WB going ahead with it's Aquaman version of Smallville will affect Namor. If anything they might cast a much younger actor.
imagine12
11-05-2005, 05:37 PM
i've seen many of his movies and i can say that this guy can't act.
Um... well, then you haven't seen Whats Eating Gilbert Grape, or This Boys Life, or the Aviator for that matter. Absolutely brilliant. He's a magnificent actor and he will go down as one of the greats whether you choose to remember Titanic or not... Dicaprio reallly wouldn't be a bad Namor if it was told from a youthful vantage point.
Um... well, then you haven't seen Whats Eating Gilbert Grape, or This Boys Life, or the Aviator for that matter. Absolutely brilliant. He's a magnificent actor and he will go down as one of the greats whether you choose to remember Titanic or not... Dicaprio reallly wouldn't be a bad Namor if it was told from a youthful vantage point.
He would be a bad Namor no matter what. DiCaprio isn't even that "youthful" anymore. He's just small and petite and cherubic like he's always been. The complete opposite of the character.
deemar325
11-06-2005, 12:25 AM
I think the Rock would make a good Namor, I mean does Atlantis have to be yet another mythical kingdom full of white people? Who's knows what ethnic characteristic the Atlantians might have, I feel an Asian or African influcenced Namor would be awesome! And not *Elizabeth Taylor as Cleopatra* again type casting, I remember as a kid seeing John Wayne as Ghengis Khan in a movie! what the hell is that? BUll-****! that's what. People wasn't pissing their pants about the "Duke" playing an Asian man, Plus Namor has always had that ambigously ethnic look. Why not a Half Black/Samoan actor playing him?
I don't lose it when every movie protrays ancient Egyptians as *middle-eastern/white* when odvisously it had an black African origin, "hell Kush was full of Blacks" but yet it is always the forgotten Ancient Africa.
David Carridene as Kain in "Kung-fu" t.v. series, every white person in America was cool about that one, when we lost the chance to see "Bruce Lee" in that role.
So why not Dwayne "Rock" Johnson?
spark627
11-14-2005, 11:45 AM
i cant see the rock pulling this off at all.
most likely they will go with someone younger.
deemar325 just lettin ya know what particular ancient Egyptians looked like is anything but agreed apon among the historical community. Cleopatra was directly decended from the white Ptolemy (one of Alexander the Great's generals). It isn't known how much intermarrying with darker peoples was done during that genealogy.
One thing that is strongly supported is that the more unfaithful aspect of Elizabeth Taylor and most other actresses portrayle of Cleopatra is the fact that they were far too beautiful, and that she was actually probably a pretty homely looking woman.
blackbyrd
12-13-2005, 10:32 PM
Blades Shades is a goof. How can the Rock be too huge to play Namor? Namor is 6'2", Rock is 6'5". Rock weighs 230, Namor weighs 320...I am convinced some of you tools on these boards don't know the history of these characters at all. Do your homework....
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/submariner.htm
AllThingsComic
12-14-2005, 02:43 PM
i'm not sure if anyone mentioned it, I just didn't want to create a new thread since there was one already, what about Jason Scott Lee?
http://rds.yahoo.com/l=IVI/SIG=14928tggs/EXP=1134678716/*-http%
RAMORE
12-15-2005, 02:00 PM
The rock dammitt give him a chance! Put on som prostetics and always refer to him dwayne johnson.
Superman \S/
12-18-2005, 04:53 PM
I could see Scott Speedman as Namor. IMO
Rogue_Lover
12-18-2005, 08:27 PM
My voye is for Victor Webster. Have u seen him? He is perfect for the role.
Rogue_Lover
12-18-2005, 08:28 PM
My voye is for Victor Webster. Have u seen him? He is perfect for the role.
Rogue_Lover
12-18-2005, 08:28 PM
My voye is for Victor Webster. Have u seen him? He is perfect for the role.
I really doubt they'd have a big budget movie for a non A-list superhero and have someone who's best known for being on a syndicated tv show nobody watched be the lead.
Mr. Magoo
12-18-2005, 10:51 PM
Hmmm.... huh..... hrmmm..... maybe Wentworth Miller.
Hypestyle
01-18-2006, 01:05 PM
my concern with casting is, this is supposed to be a "trilogy" as conceived by David Self-- so the actor(s) would have to commit for 3 movies-- and with the likely heavy amount of special effects, it may be more cost effective to shoot concurrently or back-to-back.. so this would be a major commitment like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter..
they may be better off with mid-range up and comers rather than A-List types for the biggest roles..
Mr Sensitive
02-23-2006, 05:46 PM
The Rock? Are you nuts, people?
Namor is not just a pile of muscles, he has elegance and a regal demeanour.
The Rock is just what his name says: a rock.
Gimme a break.
cookiva
02-23-2006, 06:01 PM
I could see Scott Speedman as Namor. IMO
I agree. For someone who is a bigger actor, he is the best choice...
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/1156/namor3rf.jpg
spark627
02-23-2006, 09:10 PM
i think ian somerhalder should play namor, he is in the new mens health mag (or something) and he REALLY built up, i think he would be perfect
Antonello Blueberry
02-23-2006, 09:16 PM
Ian Somerhalder is like 5ft8, a bit short to be the imposing Namor.
spark627
02-23-2006, 09:24 PM
yea but hugh jackman and famke janssen are both over 6 foot, neither of their characters are that tall. michael chiklis isnt as big as the thing... they can get around it
The Punisher
02-23-2006, 10:59 PM
If Somerhalder worked out a bit more i could see him.
The Punisher
02-23-2006, 11:00 PM
I could see Scott Speedman as Namor. IMO
I saw Speedman in a movie a few days ago, i forget the name but i could see him as well.
spark627
02-23-2006, 11:11 PM
this is the latest pic of ian, he has been working out! i think he fits namor...
http://pics.livejournal.com/ajaxstamos/pic/0007q6dz
The Punisher
02-23-2006, 11:13 PM
Wow he has, i could see him as Namor.
spark627
02-24-2006, 01:07 AM
you're witty
celldog
02-24-2006, 03:57 AM
http://www.my-wc.com/celebs/forrest_whittaker/top.jpg
Ronny Shade
02-24-2006, 10:01 AM
Lou Daimond Phillips
w@llcrawler
04-07-2006, 03:56 PM
I know there's a thread for this from a while back but couldn't find it.
Anyway, I was in Blockbuster the other day and I saw the box for this movie, "Adored" and I thought the guy looked just like Namor. He even looks like he has pointy ears! He'd need to bulk up, though!
http://www.wolfereleasing.com/adored/Images/Adored_homepage-new.jpg
MangleBoP
04-07-2006, 04:07 PM
I know there's a thread for this from a while back but couldn't find it.
Anyway, I was in Blockbuster the other day and I saw the box for this movie, "Adored" and I thought the guy looked just like Namor. He even looks like he has pointy ears! He'd need to bulk up, though!
http://www.wolfereleasing.com/adored/Images/Adored_homepage-new.jpg
Um, NO!
Roughneck
07-24-2006, 11:45 PM
James Marsters.
Supernewbie
07-25-2006, 01:29 AM
Peter Wingfield (Methos from Highlander series)
I know this guy's way too old but I always thought 10 years ago he might have been okay.
gerbstat
07-29-2006, 11:26 AM
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