Length of Movie?

[FlameHead]

This is probably something that doesn't matter to most but, I've been thinking about it a lot recently. It mainly stems from the pondering of how much screen time is Ghost Rider actually gonna use. I mean, most of the flick is gonna be the telling of Blaze's story right?

Do you think they'll need a movie as long as Hulk to tell this story? Or will they make it shorter? Will they make too short?

Concerns... thoughts?

[Fettstyl]

I prefer 3hrs or more myself but that is unlikely so I voted 145-2. If its longer than that It'll have to be a really rivating story that your average person can really get into or they'll be bored to death and ancy to get out of theatre.

[AmerikazMostWanted]

since daredevil was so short i choose 2 hours 30 minutes but accidently chose 3 hours

[FlameHead]

I went with between 2 and 2:15. Anything longer than that will turn into the lengthy mess that Hulk was. Anything shorter will not please me. I want lots of movie... but lots of good movie.

[AmerikazMostWanted]

i watched the hulk today didn't seem long to me

[BIGGUN]

went with 1:30 - 1:45 ...not including credits of course.
im thinking 1:45 would work just fine....thats the typical length of action flicks nowadays...
but hey if they can get more action in there and end up w/ a 2hr+ movie im all for it

[FlameHead]

I've been waiting too long for this movie to happen for it to be less than 2 hrs.. ya know what I mean? As long as they do it right of course.

[Uncanny Orb]

The longer the better, make it an epic!

[Tissues]

i went with 2:15-2:30 just 'cause...

[FlameHead]

'Just cause'... There ain't no better answer!

[Night]

2 hr. and 10 min. I don't think it will be cut shor this time because of the money going into it and a different company putting it out.

[RedIsNotBlue]

I think MSJ realized the shortness of Daredevil was one of its downfalls IMO. He needs to make it at least as long as the DD Director's Cut which is at least 2 hours and 13 minutes. :)

[Tissues]

'Just cause'... There ain't no better answer!
exactly...

[Master Kenobi]

2hrs 15 min to 2 1/2 hours

Long enough for origin and setup, still leaves time for lots of action!

:ghost:

[AmerikazMostWanted]

Better Have Alot of action fa sho

[FlameHead]

I'm hoping that the amount of action will push the movie's length past 2 hours... at least.

[Caliber]

I hope GR is longer than 2 hours because by the way the story sounds, it will probably be that long. GR has the potental to keep the audiences atttention for that long.

[Spider-Fan]

They should make it about 2hrs at least. Anything shorter than that is not good. Just look at X-Men, that should have been longer.

[FlameHead]

X-men was ruined by not having the time to develope it... as most people know. Ghost Rider is gonna have a whole year of post which'll do nothing but help. Whether or not this helps create a movie over 2 hours or not is up in the air.

[FlameHead]

Bump for the new people to the section.

[FlameHead]

And another bump now that we know more details of the movie.

I really hope this movie is at least 2 hours. There is too much too happen for it not to be.

[InVictus]

Well, the fanatic in me hope 2h 30 mins ....but i think it will be 2h.. max 2h 15mins

[batmaluco]

Well, the fanatic in me hope 2h 30 mins ....but i think it will be 2h.. max 2h 15mins
Yeah, i think this way too.

[FlameHead]

I think most people are thinking that way...

I mean, I'd love to have Lord of the Rings length movie... but, that's just dreamin'.

[Bucknutty]

hour and a half i think

[batmaluco]

I think most people are thinking that way...

I mean, I'd love to have Lord of the Rings length movie... but, that's just dreamin'.
I know what you mean, for us, comic book readers, this movie would have 3 or even more hours, a very nice lenght.
But I'm just thinking about a balance, so the average moviegoer can feel comfortable too and this movie besides being great (as I hope), make some money and get nice sequels. ;)

[FlameHead]

I know what you mean. They have to please all movie goes, not just us in this forum... though they better make us happy damnit.

I just hope it's not as short as FF and not as long as Hulk. Anything in the middle of those two would make me happy.

[FlameHead]

An update on the length of the movie from MSJ, taken from this thread; http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188064

-- Do you plan on breaking the 2 hour mark?

It's a little over that now in the cut. I think so...

I'm real happy with that.

[RedIsNotBlue]

An update on the length of the movie from MSJ, taken from this thread; http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188064


I'm real happy with that.

Hey... it was my question. :ghost:

[WiscoD]

I chose 2-2:15 for starters....Then go "ben-hur" epic size for the GR/Blade movie.. Jeez that would really ROCK!!!

[FlameHead]

An LOTR's sized epic would be sweet. I think a 3 part movie dealing with the Rise of the Midnight Sons would be fantastic. All that Lilith stuff with her children. Man, what a story... much like LOTR's actually, in way of gathering a group of warriors to fight a battle.

Anyway, I'll be happy with any length for this first flick.

Hey... it was my question. :ghost:

And we're real happy you asked it.

[BURNFOREVER]

Vc é do Brasil tbm, cara!

É um barato encontrar por aqui fãs brasileiros do nosso demoníaco MOTOQUEIRO FANTASMA!
Espero vê-lo sempre por aqui.

[BURNFOREVER]

I know what you mean, for us, comic book readers, this movie would have 3 or even more hours, a very nice lenght.
But I'm just thinking about a balance, so the average moviegoer can feel comfortable too and this movie besides being great (as I hope), make some money and get nice sequels. ;)

My mistake.
The previous message was a quote to BATMALUCO, i forgot to say.

[InVictus]

Vc é do Brasil tbm, cara!

É um barato encontrar por aqui fãs brasileiros do nosso demoníaco MOTOQUEIRO FANTASMA!
Espero vê-lo sempre por aqui.
Was that GR traduction in Brazil? Here in Italy it was untranslated, Ghost rider.
Do you have the spanish "Doctor Muerte"(Doctor Doom) too?

[BURNFOREVER]

Was that GR traduction in Brazil? Here in Italy it was untranslated, Ghost rider.
Do you have the spanish "Doctor Muerte"(Doctor Doom) too?

Yes, in Brasil we call GR: Motoqueiro Fantasma.
And we talk portuguese, not spanish.
All the Latin America talk spanish, except us.
Just forthe record:
-MIDNIGHT SONS:os filhos da meia-noite;
-BLACKHEART:coração negro;
-SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE:espírito da vingança;
-CARETAKER:coveiro;
-SCARECROW:espantalho;
-SKINNER:escalpo.

And Dr.Doom is DOUTOR DESTINO.
Take care.
:ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

[Vartha]

Well depending if they actually tell most of the origin, I think it should be at least 2 hours long.

I just hope they don't stretch out the origin too much, and get right to the action.:ghost:

[FlameHead]

That certainly is a tough thing to do, telling the origin of a character. There's a fine line of taking too much time to do so and too little. From what I can tell, this is not going to be an origin movie in total because the curse/deal is being told with Johnny and the gang being young (Matt Long) and then we flash forward to the present. So, it looks like we'll have like 20/30 minutes of origin and then the story can happen.

The question is, how long will they spend developing the origin of the baddies? It seems to me that not much is needed. I mean, everyone knows who the devil is and can easy come to terms with him having a son. Besides that, the demons need nothing because we're all so used to demons now as they are ever present.

2 hours, at least, of Ghost Rider kickin' ass sounds great to me.

Yes, in Brasil we call GR: Motoqueiro Fantasma.
And we talk portuguese, not spanish.
All the Latin America talk spanish, except us.
Just forthe record:
-MIDNIGHT SONS:os filhos da meia-noite;
-BLACKHEART:coração negro;
-SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE:espírito da vingança;
-CARETAKER:coveiro;
-SCARECROW:espantalho;
-SKINNER:escalpo.

And Dr.Doom is DOUTOR DESTINO.
Take care.
:ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

Awesome. It certainly is interesting to see these characters and things in a different language.

[Hellcycle2000]

I'll be happy w/ 2½ hours in length

http://home.comcast.net/~svgjr1975/spikes.bmp

[Bucknutty]

1:30

[FlameHead]

See, personally, I'd be a little dissapointed with a 90 minute movie. I've waited so long for this flick that that would just be a let down.

[FlameHead]

Bump.

I'm still hopin' we get a 2 hour movie...

[RedIsNotBlue]

I have faith we will. I think Sony will let MSJ keep the length to his liking. They have for Raimi.

[FlameHead]

Very true. It doesn't seem that studio is in the business of rushed movies. Plus, I'm sure they've seen what Mark has done with 30 extra minutes of DareDevil.

[Darth Elektra]

1 hour and 45 minutes to a 2 hour movie.

[FlameHead]

Yeah, that would suffice for me... though I'd much prefer it it were closer to 2 hours than 1:45. The more the merrier... but not Peter Jackson long. That's too much.

[Darth Elektra]

yea,but im a new GR fan,read the plot sounded cool and im trying to find more stuff out about the charecter,and being a new fan I think the best amount of time is 145-2hrs because if its longer it could be boring(not for the fans but for the average movie goer).

[blades_shades]

1:45-2 Hrs is good enough for Ghost Rider. You dont' want it too long. It's not an epic story either so keep it tight and solid from start to finish and MSJ will have a winner.

[FlameHead]

The main reason why I want it over 2 hours is because I know that the first 20 minutes of the movie is going to be Matt Long and young blaze. That means it'll be at least 30 to 40 minutes into the movie before we even see Ghost Rider... maybe more. I really don't want the final climatic battles to happen in a blink of the eye.

[RedIsNotBlue]

It needs to be at two hours because this is going to be the final version. No extended or director's cut on dvd. I am hoping for the first half about Blaze and then the last half with mostly Ghost Rider. Kind of how Batman Begins was handled.

[Mr Nick]

I agree. Batman Begins was handled really well. A solid first half with Bruce and a solid second half with Batman. I dearly hope we don't feel short-changed by Ghost Rider's appearances.:ghost:

[Triligors]

5 hours long!.... jk. 2 hrs- 2 hrs. 15 min.

[Kritish]

Two hours seems good with me. :ghost:

[Darth Elektra]

It needs to be at two hours because this is going to be the final version. No extended or director's cut on dvd. I am hoping for the first half about Blaze and then the last half with mostly Ghost Rider. Kind of how Batman Begins was handled.

yea,Batman Begins did it perfect!

[FlameHead]

It needs to be at two hours because this is going to be the final version. No extended or director's cut on dvd. I am hoping for the first half about Blaze and then the last half with mostly Ghost Rider. Kind of how Batman Begins was handled.

You bring up an interesting point there Red. This is the only version we'll get (so we've been told so far anyway) which means they have to tell enough story version of the story the first time around this time. That takes time, especially when you have a lot of characters to juggle like this movie has.

[FlameHead]

Figured this would be a good thread to bump, now that I'm lookin' through everything. We still don't know how long it'll be, after all...

[jrd550]

2hrs 10 minutes. Is there a confirmation yet?

[RedIsNotBlue]

Figured this would be a good thread to bump, now that I'm lookin' through everything. We still don't know how long it'll be, after all...

Well I asked Mark a while back in one of the Q&A's about the length and then he said the cut they had was a little over 2 hours. And I think he said this before the reshoots. And considering this is Sony I think Mark will get to keep in what he wants so going by the info and my guesstimation I would put it at 2 hours 5-15 minutes at the longest.

[CAH]

I'm hoping for 2 hours, 20 minutes. That would be a great length. And yes, hopefully Johnny's story is explained pretty good in the first half, and then GR comes into the picture about 1/2 way through the film, or earlier I hope...just a little earlier. But I have faith in MSJ, so I know he'll pull through.

And look at it this way, we KNOW for sure pretty much that it's gonig to be at least 2 hours, from RINB's question to Mark...so thats good.

CAH

[FlameHead]

BIGGUN and I were chatting just the other day, about backstory and the how much of it there is for a lot of characters. There's a lot that has to be told in this little ol' story. It's gonna take time and I'm sure MSJ will take what he needs... and hopefully get what he wants...

Either way, yeah, 2h15... at least

[NDX]

Looking at all that is going on, the film is easily 2:10, but anything above that might be pushing it. I think 2:15 with credits will be appropriate timing for the movie.

If this goes well and there plans to be a sequel, then they can go longer.

[Mr Nick]

Wow, I didn't think it'd be that long. I was hoping for a tight 2 hours. Ever since Lord of the Rings, there have been far too many movies stretched out longer than they should actually be. Just one of my pet peevs!

:hyper:

[RedIsNotBlue]

Wow, I didn't think it'd be that long. I was hoping for a tight 2 hours. Ever since Lord of the Rings, there have been far too many movies stretched out longer than they should actually be. Just one of my pet peevs!

:hyper:

An origin movie has to be long to explain everything throughly and to connect the audience to the character. Imagine Batman Begins without the training scenes. Get the picture? Then take a movie like Fantastic Four. It's development was almost not there due to its short length.

[FlameHead]

Wow, I didn't think it'd be that long. I was hoping for a tight 2 hours. Ever since Lord of the Rings, there have been far too many movies stretched out longer than they should actually be. Just one of my pet peevs!

:hyper:

I completely agree with that. There are a lot of movies nowadays that are far too long... including the LOTR series (especially the last one). Having said that, a movie needs to have the necessary time to explain what's needed. There's a fine line between too long and too short so, it's a difficult thing to do.

I'm sure we won't be dissapointed.

[RedIsNotBlue]

I disagree to a point Flame. Batman Begins was 2 hours and 20 minutes long and not only is it arguably my favorite film but I would have loved it if it would have been longer. A movie can be as long or as short as it wants as long as it is good. The LOTR movies I think are really overrated like Star Wars so I never got into them myself had they been good to me personally I think it wouldn't have mattered.

[Arkady Rossovich]

Around two hours,i think that is right.

[WiscoD]

MSJ has always talked about the mythology of the demons on earth(War in Heaven, Angels falling to hell and some falling to earth) So does anyone think that we will see anything from that WAR to tell the backstory of blackhearts "buddies"?

[FlameHead]

I disagree to a point Flame. Batman Begins was 2 hours and 20 minutes long and not only is it arguably my favorite film but I would have loved it if it would have been longer. A movie can be as long or as short as it wants as long as it is good. The LOTR movies I think are really overrated like Star Wars so I never got into them myself had they been good to me personally I think it wouldn't have mattered.

I guess it always comes down to a matter of opinion. A movie is only as long as it feels. If it feels long, chances are it wasn't very good. Ditto for it being short. Satisfaction is personal, however, so whether if feels short of long is completly up to oneself.

Either way, GR won't be long enough. I've waiting too freakin' long for this and I know it'll be over in a blink of an eye.

[RedIsNotBlue]

I guess it always comes down to a matter of opinion. A movie is only as long as it feels. If it feels long, chances are it wasn't very good. Ditto for it being short. Satisfaction is personal, however, so whether if feels short of long is completly up to oneself.

Either way, GR won't be long enough. I've waiting too freakin' long for this and I know it'll be over in a blink of an eye.

Yeah thats the one bad thing about an amazing movie it always seems to end when you don't want it. :(

[FlameHead]

Very true. The credits will be sad to see....

... oh, which reminds me. Think they'll have a little scene tagged at the end? That would be awesome. I mean, I'll be watchin' all the credits regardless but, a scene tag would be fun times.

[RedIsNotBlue]

You never know. ****ing X3 had one and it was supposedly the end of the series so you never know.

[FlameHead]

True. One never knows with this kinda thing. Of course, X3 announced the extra clip didn't they?

I really enjoyed the Constantine one, mainly because I didn't know it was going to come and just happened to watch all the credits that day. Random movies, I'll watch the credits... just because.

[Midnyte_Sun]

I personally want a 10 hour anthology....but for the first movie...1hr 45 min - 2 Hours. Anything longer will make normal movie-goers think - this movie is too long!

[CAH]

So, I think we're all wondering now...since you have COMPLETELY finished Ghost Rider, can you tell us approximately how long it is? We know it's about 2 hours, because a while ago you said you had a cut that was a little over 2 hours, but I'm guessing that it runs about 2h, 15 min. That'd be a perfect time!

Can you confirm the actual time?

CAH

[FlameHead]

Mergin' with the Length of Movie thread...

[hellfiremaster]

Run time??? I need to know how much popcorn is going to set me back :)

HFM

[ultimatefan]

Yeah, please tell us the studio didn´t cut off half an hour and now it feels like a ninety-minute long MTV video...

[FlameHead]

Hmm... am I gonna have to move the Length of Movie thread to the spoilers section? It seems people keep posting this question here...

Either way, this will now be merged with the other....

[NDX]

You and your mergers. Sickening. Using your powers like this. Animal.

[FlameHead]

Yeah, I'm a stinkin' bastard obsessed with my power. Mwa hahaha!

[NDX]

Good. Now use your drunk with power ass and get me into that premiere.

[FlameHead]

My power rating is like, minus 1, when it comes to such things...

[NDX]

Dang :(

[FlameHead]

Dang Diggity.

[NDX]

Hibbidy hobbity.

[vampireslayer97]

Didn't see any thread on this, so I'm sorry if it's already being discussed on another thread. According to this website the running time is 114 minutes... or so this site says.

http://www.arclightcinemas.com/(el0varjlqybxch45ubekjr45)/visMovieInfo.aspx?MovieName=GHOST+RIDER

I hope it's true. I kept having fears they were gonna cut allot out like with Dare Devil.

[PenanceStare]

Excellent news, thanks he who kills them with fangy teeth.

[rashad]

I hope it's true. I kept having fears they were gonna cut allot out like with Dare Devil.

I wasn't too worried about that mainly because Daredevil was a Fox movie.

[xwolverine2]

holy crap thats long..... amazing!

i guess that tells you how much we HAVENT seen.

[matrix_ghost]

114 minutes , nice.
A little shorter then the 2 hour mark but at least it's bigger then the 90 minute mark. IMO gives the impression that the characters are fleshd out quite nicely.
Hopefully GR is featured in plenty of shots :up:

[CyclopsSummers]

Its good.
On siteweb actuacine.net it tells 1h50. 110 or 114, goooooooood!!!!

[BIGGUN]

excellent!:up:
that will make plenty of time for both character development and some demon head bashing. wonder how much was actually cut out?

[webhead731]

Yay!:ghost::up:

[CAH]

Well, I am pretty happy now...114 minutes is a perfect running time.

Although I WAS sort of hoping for 130 minutes, you can't have everything, and yes...114 will allow for some very nice character development and etc.

CAH

[Vartha]

Almost 2 hours is enough for me, can't wait. One of my friends just stopped by and told me she may take me to it for my B-day present since it opens on my b-day! :D

[Tissues]

Sounds delicious.:heart: :heart:

[Warhammer]

Almost 2 hours is amazing!

That's the mandatory minimum of any superhero movie.

[Advanced Dark]

So the film cost over $1,000,000 per minute. :)

[FlameHead]

Now that's awesome...

[Advanced Dark]

For those who actually expected more wait for the DVD and play it in slow-mo.

[FlameHead]

I'm totally doing that.

And probably backwards too...

[Vartha]

lol wonder if you play it backwards that you get messeges from Heaven?:D

[StylishHokie21]

Great news! I was afraid this would be another X-Men 3.

[webhead731]

It's not Fox, so don't worry lol.^

[Advanced Dark]

You guys forget X1 & X2 were also Fox. Singer was the one who left and took his writers for those who didn't enjoy X3. Singer also made his deal with WB ahead of time fearing Rothman would talk him out of it.

[Midnyte_Sun]

So the film cost over $1,000,000 per minute. :)

Damn. You're right.

[NDX]

Was hoping for 125 - 130 minutes, but I can live with 114 as the length. It's still a nice chunk of film without being painfully long.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

You guys forget X1 & X2 were also Fox. Singer was the one who left and took his writers for those who didn't enjoy X3. Singer also made his deal with WB ahead of time fearing Rothman would talk him out of it.

And X2 and especially X1 were severly cut down in time and especially budget. And dont blame Singer for the travesty that was X3. If your manager under-payed you, gave you unfair deadlines, shot down your ideas whenever you made them AND farted about when offering you a new contract would you stay in that job? I wouldnt.

About the run-time for GR, its good, not too long and not too short, and it looks like this movie will some character moments which is good and (LISTEN FOX!) SHOULD be a requirement for EVERY CB movie. GR has a run-time similar to the 1st Blade and Spiderman movies, which is a good sign as they were good movies.

[NDX]

Two guys with the same avatar. This won't get confusing.

[xwolverine2]

So the film cost over $1,000,000 per minute. :)

holy crap lol...i never thought of it that way:woot:

[Mr Nick]

I'm very happy with 114.

:yay:

[Secret_Riddle]

MSJ said it was over 2 hours :(

Its still a good running time, just a bit shorter then the first spider-man movie, which is an awesom origin story.

[FlameHead]

Well, at the time he said his current cut was over 2 hours. That was quite a while ago now though.

[hammerhedd11]

The time is just right.:up:

[CAH]

So, can anyone confirm that the 114 minutes is the OFFICIAL running time of Ghost Rider?

EXCELSIOR, Mirko, etc.?

CAH

[Turtle-Man]

Well, I can confirm it, although my confirmations really don't make any sense. I also believe Hulk is actually a 210 minute movie, and it was cut down severely because of budget problems. However, I'm always wrong. :dry: Am I?

I do know one thing, though. The film is indeed not under a half-hour long! Hope that helps.

[Retroman]

UPDATE
Heres the official running time (no cuts made). Found this on the British Film Classification's site.

Run Time 109m 53s
Source: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/91E1D7BB58A8C0788025727D0037D336?OpenDocument

[Midnyte_Sun]

Didn't the European version get cut because of horrific violence, etc?

[Retroman]

No cuts were made. Thats pretty clear isn't it?:huh:

[Secret_Riddle]

Its a similar running time to X3 then....doesnt sound that great actually.
From over 2 hours, to 1 hour 49 minutes, MSJ cut quite a bit then.

Its already been proven that its a way better movie though.:)

[CAH]

109 is a pretty decent amount of time, although I would've liked over 2 hours...it's still OK.

CAH

[Midnyte_Sun]

Thats what unrated directors cut is for.

[Secret_Riddle]

he has said this is his directors cut.

[The Ones]

That was ages ago. The studio could have messed with the movie since then

[Paste Pot Pete]

You guys forget X1 & X2 were also Fox. Singer was the one who left and took his writers for those who didn't enjoy X3. Singer also made his deal with WB ahead of time fearing Rothman would talk him out of it.

Do you blame him? The full creative control he got from WB is an awfully tasty offer, considering the hell he must have gone through at Fox. It's a miracle he was able to eek out two great movies.

And 109 is not a terrible runtime for a movie like Ghost Rider. For an "epic finale" like X3, it's bad.

[FlameHead]

UPDATE
Heres the official running time (no cuts made). Found this on the British Film Classification's site.


Source: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/91E1D7BB58A8C0788025727D0037D336?OpenDocument

Thanks for the update Retro.

I wish it were more... only because I never want it to end.