Tom Welling as Superman Manips

[AgentPat]

YIKES beautiful ? Are we talking about the same Jeffrey Dahmer?
Cause that was one ugly ass dude lol... Im not gay or nothing but I can clearly say that he was an ugly man... :DClearly, you missed the point. A person's attractiveness or lack thereof is not indicative of their mental stability or potential to commit violent crimes. Google Dahmer and read about what he did and how he did it. Then Google Ted Bundy and do the same. These are merely two examples from the real world. If you'd prefer an example from the reel world however, Google "American Psycho" and its star. Then come back and tell us THAT dude isn't a beautiful man. We'll all have a good laugh. :p

Ted Bundy, serial killer:
http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/9232/tedbundy0le.jpg

Christian Bale, actor:
http://www.filmweb.no/bilder/multimedia/archive/00087/Christian_Bale_i_Ame_87936o.jpg

[triplet]

Weird, Pat's post wasn't showing up now it is...

It's all good! :up: :D

[Serene]

Now I can.. but that was weird. :confused: Pat's post was MIA for a few minutes there.

[rumpuso]

Christian Bale looks gorgeous in that picture. Is 'American Pyscho' any good?

[mellyM]

Christian Bale looks gorgeous in that picture. Is 'American Pyscho' any good?
I find it hysterical personally, and Christian Bale is great in it, as well as great looking (shower scene anyone?) Him expounding on the merits of Huey Lewis & the News while about to kill someone is pretty damn funny lol

[Gregorius]

I think Tom Welling can pull off anger very well. The scene with Morgan Edge is an excellent example, as is pretty much any scene involving Red Kryptonite. But I don't see anger as a key issue in the Tom-Welling-as-Superman debate. As far as I'm concerned, only four main adjustments need to be made to allow Tom Welling to be an excellent Superman.

1) Apply different make-up to make him look a little older and more experienced instead of younger and more naive as they do on the show.

2) Lose the bangs. Brush his hair back and give him that famous S-shaped cowlick in the front.

3) Let his acting skills bring about the more commanding, confident, and resolved demeanor Superman should have (if he can play both Clark Kent and Kal-El as well as he has, this shouldn't be a problem).

4) Give him a decent costume. Anything resembling the Routh Monstrosity is a real no-no.

None of these adjustments would be at all difficult. The challenge would be convincing TW to put on the suit.

[Serene]

*sigh*

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9171/ripwelling7bo8ap.jpg
-credit to superboy13

[avidreader]

I think Tom Welling can pull off anger very well. The scene with Morgan Edge is an excellent example, as is pretty much any scene involving Red Kryptonite. But I don't see anger as a key issue in the Tom-Welling-as-Superman debate. As far as I'm concerned, only four main adjustments need to be made to allow Tom Welling to be an excellent Superman.

1) Apply different make-up to make him look a little older and more experienced instead of younger and more naive as they do on the show.

2) Lose the bangs. Brush his hair back and give him that famous S-shaped cowlick in the front.

3) Let his acting skills bring about the more commanding, confident, and resolved demeanor Superman should have (if he can play both Clark Kent and Kal-El as well as he has, this shouldn't be a problem).

4) Give him a decent costume. Anything resembling the Routh Monstrosity is a real no-no.

None of these adjustments would be at all difficult. The challenge would be convincing TW to put on the suit.




You're a friend for life around here Gegorius.:up: :D

Awesome manip Serene, thanks for posting. He looks truly magnificent.

[Gregorius]

http://student.fgcu.edu/ghbontra/RedCape/WellingSupermanNovem.jpg
Here's a head-to-toe image fresh out of PhotoShop! Now that's what I'm talkin' about!

http://student.fgcu.edu/ghbontra/RedCape/TWSuperman2.jpg
Up, up, and away!

[KalKai]

I wish people would stop using the classic suit, it's 2006 and it doesn't look right. No offence Gregorius but those just look funny.

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/supermen.jpg

There's really only one good reason for the classic costume to change after 67 years...















...Stupidity. :p



And PS: This is AWESOME...

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9171/ripwelling7bo8ap.jpg

:up:



PPS: Rumpuso, American Psycho was an entertaining movie, in a warped kinda way. LOL And Bale is quite the eye candy in the film, so it's definitely worth the price of rental. :D

[Gregorius]

No offense taken, but I still feel compelled to offer a well-mannered rebuttal.

Classics are classics for a reason. There is such a thing as being TOO contemporary (the Routh suit is a prime example). Look at what the SR designers did to the S-shield. In what I can only assume was a misguided attempt to make it look more up-to-date, they ended up totally butchering it!

Besides, you ain't seen funny until you've seen the costume worn by George Reeves or Kirk Alyn. They look ridiculous!

By the way, here's a mock movie poster I made for a hypothetical flick called "Superman: Emergence."

http://student.fgcu.edu/ghbontra/RedCape/Emergence2.jpg

[KalKai]

Maybe it looks good in cartoons & comics, but not in real life, not anymore. That suit can't be used forever you know that. Whoever puts that suit on TODAY, people would just laugh at the guy, lol. We do know that in SV it'll look different, at least the cape did in Season 3 Hereafter.

[AgentPat]

Oh, I dunno. It's a story about an immortal alien living on earth with superhuman powers. At the end of the day, this IS all just fantasy entertainment. In the real world, the only people that wear skin tight leotards are dancers and circus performers.

...and actors in superhero TV shows and films. LOL

There's no rule that says you *can't* change the suit, but change just for the sake of change isn't a good enough reason AFAIC. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

When it comes to Superman today, it doesn't get much better than this in my most humble of opinions...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-mre.jpg


And SV is on the right path to get there...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/exodus.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/dichotic.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/phoenix8.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/arrival2b.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade12.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/hereafter.jpg

[The Caped Knight]

http://student.fgcu.edu/ghbontra/RedCape/Emergence2.jpg


Nice, Ya got The SUPER BIG Three (Welling, Durance & Rosenbaum) :supes:

[Gregorius]

http://student.fgcu.edu/ghbontra/RedCape/KryptoProphecy2.jpg

Here's another image of mine. The idea here is to make it look like an ancient prophecy foretelling the appearance of Superman. The background is a parchment-like pattern, and I filtered one of my manips to make it look somewhat like it was painted onto the page. In the spirit of true archaism, I used a font that imitates ancient Roman script and composed the prophecy itself entirely in Latin. Here's an English translation:

In an age when buildings will reach the skies, there will come the last son of a dying race. From the sky shall fall a child who will become a man with powers greater than those of any human of Earth. He will have the strength of a hundred men. Neither blade nor flame shall pierce his skin. Gravity will not keep him on the ground. He will move faster than an arrow from an archer's bow. From his eyes he shall be able to emit fire. He will see what others do not see and hear what others do not hear. He shall be a friend of justice and a great force for good. Earth's greatest champion will come.


What do you think? Is this neat, or am I just a geek?

[avidreader]

http://student.fgcu.edu/ghbontra/RedCape/KryptoProphecy2.jpg

Here's another image of mine. The idea here is to make it look like an ancient prophecy foretelling the appearance of Superman. The background is a parchment-like pattern, and I filtered one of my manips to make it look somewhat like it was painted onto the page. In the spirit of true archaism, I used a font that imitates ancient Roman script and composed the prophecy itself entirely in Latin. Here's an English translation:

In an age when buildings will reach the skies, there will come the last son of a dying race. From the sky shall fall a child who will become a man with powers greater than those of any human of Earth. He will have the strength of a hundred men. Neither blade nor flame shall pierce his skin. Gravity will not keep him on the ground. He will move faster than an arrow from an archer's bow. From his eyes he shall be able to emit fire. He will see what others do not see and hear what others do not hear. He shall be a friend of justice and a great force for good. Earth's greatest champion will come.


What do you think? Is this neat, or am I just a geek?


Absolutely neat, but then I'm probably a geek as well :D .

Reading stuff like that always gives me chills. I think that's where Smallville is gonna blast. We've watched this guy struggle through the last five years in coming to terms with who he is and the ultimate ending is that he is going to encapsulate all that you've said above and more.

It really is the rise to his peak that is gonna make this show go down in history as being the best telling of Superman Begins.

[Mike_D]

Try that with this pic in the suit instead :up:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/SRT.jpg

wtf...hes THAT skinny?!! I mean I'm a little thinner than that, but this is supposed to be SUPERMAN!! :down

[KalKai]

Mike_D did you really have to answer to that? ignore it.

[Pickle-El]

wtf...hes THAT skinny?!! I mean I'm a little thinner than that, but this is supposed to be SUPERMAN!! :down


I take it you haven't seen the latest batch of pics.:supes: :supes: :supes: ....either way, why repost that? You know what's going to happen.

[KalKai]

Now don't start to talk about it here, if he thinks he's skinny then just let him think that.

[Threshold]

I'm surprised that Premiere SR image of Superman holding the planet over his head hasn't been maniped to death in this thread.

[The Incredible Hulk]

We've got enough "super" poses of Tom to keep us busy, besides his head doesnt look right on the other guy's body in the silly looking costume

[Pickle-El]

We've got enough "super" poses of Tom to keep us busy, besides his head doesnt look right on the other guy's body in the silly looking costume


You're right, the series finale can't come soon enough.

I mean that in a good way..because that's the whole point of the show, right? (At least in my eyes..G&M have 1 shot to NOT screw this up..good luck satisfying everyone)

Still....06' is going to be one hell of a year for Superman fans...can't wait.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Sorry Pickle, I think the movie costume sucks, and dont want to see Welling in anything remotely close to it. It's just an opinion, get over it.

[Earthsea]

I think Welling will just be in a Christopher Reeve Suit made to fit Welling (when the time comes). I think that is almost obvious unless they make something new but I highly doubt they will just for a Minute or Two of use

[superboy13]

And PS: This is AWESOME...

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9171/ripwelling7bo8ap.jpg

:up:


Thanks!! I'm the one who did that manip (Thanks to Serene for posting it too!)

[superboy13]

The original pic wasn't good, so I did what I could:
http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/2858/supermanexilemanip0ex.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Jedi Master]

thats the one from Exile....i can tell from all the lights flashing in his face

[superboy13]

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7761/exile1024qj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[The Incredible Hulk]

that looks great, you've got some skillz my man :up:

[Gregorius]

Try this one on for size!

http://student.fgcu.edu/ghbontra/RedCape/TWSupermanFlying6.jpg

[AgentPat]

Mike, Mike... in the words of Chloe Sullivan, burn that. :p

I take it you haven't seen the latest batch of pics...Eh. Same suit. Same body. Same face. Same... I dunno... meh. Still not feeling it. Oh well. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/shrug.gif

I'm surprised that Premiere SR image of Superman holding the planet over his head hasn't been maniped to death in this thread.Nah...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/spell9.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif

Perhaps a job for DarkB?

You're right, the series finale can't come soon enough.:confused:

I'm looking forward to at least another season, if not two.

I mean that in a good way..because that's the whole point of the show, right?The show is about the journey, not the destination. That said, once the destination is reached, I'm sure it will be a time of sweet sorrow and joy for fans. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/cryjoy.gif

G&M have 1 shot to NOT screw this up..good luck satisfying everyone)This applies to more than just G&M's property, though I'm sure diehard fans of SV will be quite satisfied with the finale. Those who knock the show will probably find something to complain about. What else is new? LOL

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/welcome.gif

Still....06' is going to be one hell of a year for Superman fans...can't wait.Well, the last four years have been great for Superman fans too, so hopefully '06 will continue the trend.


Superboy13_bt and Gregorius, very nice work folks!! Keep 'em coming.

[KalKai]

Pat how many Welling pics do you have? thousands? lol

[Gmanofsteel]

Pat how many Welling pics do you have? thousands? lol
i have almost 400 pics of him as supes saved :D

[AgentPat]

Pat how many Welling pics do you have? thousands? lol:O

Images:
1.22 GB comprising 3,686 files in 30 folders.

Vids:
3.69 GB comprising 295 files in 9 folders.

No, I'm not a fan. Nope, not me. :p




Be afraid. Be very, very afraid. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/fear.gif

[triplet]

I thought I had a good collection... I have about 1900 images for just under 1gb...

Some are probably duplicates, however, I don't have them very well organized and find some from time to time that are the same except for the file names.

[AgentPat]

I thought I had a good collection... I have about 1900 images for just under 1gb...How much ya wanna bet James dusts the both of us? Combined. LOL

[triplet]

How much ya wanna bet James dusts the both of us? Combined. LOL

Yeah, I betcha he does...

:D

:triplet waves to James:

[Serene]

Well all of you dust me. :)
I have a lot, but not nearly as much as you guys. I actually have no idea how many I have because my organizational skills are a bit, uh.. lacking. I need to clean house really badly on my hard drive. You wouldn't believe some of the old (and strange) things I have saved.

[Kane]

This is kinda silly and its sort of a manipulation (in a sense), I created TW in this video game I'm playing (Soul Calibur 3):

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/Picture009.jpg

and I gave him some men to fight:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/Picture011.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/Picture006.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/Picture007.jpg

[The Incredible Hulk]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/spell9.jpg


Allow me to caption this for you: NO PADDING REQUIRED :up:

[AgentPat]

Allow me to caption this for you: NO PADDING REQUIRED :up:Bingo! Not too shabby considering the photo on the left is a drawing, eh? :p

We need a "Caption This" thread here. ;)

Considering what Welling's been able to do given the demands of his current schedule, I often wonder what HE would have done with the best trainers, nutritionists and six months of time to do nothing else but concentrate on sculpting his physique. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif

Yeah, Superman indeed. *sigh*

[superboy13]

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/1192/tomwf8wk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Serene]

Allow me to caption this for you: NO PADDING REQUIRED :up:
*snicker* :up:

superboy13bt - Another nice one. That one has sort of a cool retro feel to it.

Pat - It truly boggles the mind to even imagine it.

[The Incredible Hulk]

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/1192/tomwf8wk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

awesome. :up: who's suit is that? O'Hearn's or Reeve's?

[superboy13]

awesome. :up: who's suit is that? O'Hearn's or Reeve's?

O'Hearn's, I think it'd look cool on Tom, it's very similar to Reeve's, but better colors, and updated a bit

[Serene]

The open neck makes a HUGE difference, IMO. The neck is such a powerful and appealing anatomical feature, as well as the sterno-clavicular junctions. I honestly think I could have been okay with the new suit, if it had a less strangling neckline.

[The Incredible Hulk]

the open neck helps accentuate a wider appearance, whereas a high neckline makes you look longer and thinner. That's why you dont see a lot of "fat girls" with low, open necklines.... (Per my wife, the fashion guru)

[AgentPat]

I agree wholeheartedly about the low neck line and how visually important it is to emphasize width and musculature. You can see it in Dark's Aqua manip...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-darkb.jpg


Welling has a wide neck and hanging shoulders...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/aqua9.jpg

The cut of the neckline in his suit will be very important.

[jas01724]

How much ya wanna bet James dusts the both of us? Combined. LOLI don't have them very well organised, but at last count, including videos, images, audio, and who knows what else, there were about 15,000 files taking up over 11GB. Heh. ;)

*waves*

[AgentPat]

I don't have them very well organised, but at last count, including videos, images, audio, and who knows what else, there were about 15,000 files taking up over 11GB. Heh. ;)

*waves*:D :up:

LMAO!!! Toldjas. ;)

[jas01724]

:D :up: LMAO!!! Toldjas. ;)*sniffles*

I'm so predictable ... :O

[superboy13]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9528/wellingsupes31xf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[KalKai]

nice, still the neck never looks right though.

[AgentPat]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9528/wellingsupes31xf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)Wow! Gee Superboy13, where have ya been? These manips of yours are awesome! And your suit design is perfect. Way to go! :up: :D

[The Caped Knight]

Awesome manips superboy !!!

[AgentPat]

nice, still the neck never looks right though.I think it might have been a little harder than most since the neck in the original shot is in shadow...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/S4promo12a.jpg

Might have been easier working with this one, I dunno...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/S4promo12b.jpg

Still though, that manip is pretty sweet. :)

[KalKai]

manip this:

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/1307/clarkg6rh.jpg

there isn't a lot to do here, but his look is very supermanish (like always), and the wind is helping.

[Mike_D]

manip this:

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/1307/clarkg6rh.jpg

there isn't a lot to do here, but his look is very supermanish (like always), and the wind is helping.

Wow...i might even have to take a crack at this.

[AgentPat]

Wow...i might even have to take a crack at this.:D :up:

[Mike_D]

Not the greatest:

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/superwelling.jpg

And his head doesnt look right here but oh well:

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/superwelling2.jpg

[Gregorius]

I am pleased to announce that the Red Cape Gallery now has its own domain name! Check out this collection of Tom-Welling-as-Superman manips and submit your own at http://www.redcapegallery.com !

[superboy13]

http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/5681/welling230gl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Mike_D]

http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/5681/welling230gl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

all these manips are REALLY good but i dont like his hair style.

[Gregorius]

manip this:

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/1307/clarkg6rh.jpg

there isn't a lot to do here, but his look is very supermanish (like always), and the wind is helping.

Voila!
http://www.jeuneecrivain1985.150m.com/TWSuperman6.jpg

[Gregorius]

AAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!

Stupid thing won't take my picture!

Here's a link:

http://www.jeuneecrivain1985.150m.com/TWSuperman6.jpg

[superboy13]

AAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!

Stupid thing won't take my picture!

Here's a link:

http://www.jeuneecrivain1985.150m.com/TWSuperman6.jpg

Try this: http://imageshack.us

[Gregorius]

Just did!

http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/562/twsuperman60sd.jpg

[Jedi Master]

wut episode was that one from ?wit welling in supes suit wit hands crossed? one posted by superboy...he looks cool in that manip

[superboy13]

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/1318/supermanfullbody0wy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Mike_D]

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/1318/supermanfullbody0wy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

wow..you cant even tell its him, LOL. thats pretty good :up:

[Earthsea]

wow..you cant even tell its him, LOL. thats pretty good :up:

Thats what I was thinking. It is a great Manip but you cant even tell it is Tom Welling

[superboy13]

Thats what I was thinking. It is a great Manip but you cant even tell it is Tom Welling

That''s the point... Different hairstyle and a pair of glasses... different person...

That's why they can't tell Farmboy Kent apart from Metropolis Kent
I'm now working on a new one with Tom as Metropolis Kent... I'll put him next to Smallville Kent and Superman in another one too

[Brainiac 8]

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/1318/supermanfullbody0wy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Superboy, your very talented at this. Keep bringing them on! This one is just amazingly awsome. :up:

[Earthsea]

I can almost bet that when the time comes (Final Episode) Tom Welling will wear a made for him Christopher Reeve Superman Suit

[superboy13]

http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/6681/stages5ev.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Threshold]

all good... except metropolis...

[superboy13]

all good... except metropolis...

I know... I couldn't make decent glasses

[KalKai]

I know... I couldn't make decent glasses

It's not the glasses, that's a picture from his modeling days.

[superboy13]

It's not the glasses, that's a picture from his modeling days.
can't it be a stylish clark? :O

[dark_b]

I can almost bet that when the time comes (Final Episode) Tom Welling will wear a made for him Christopher Reeve Superman Suitwhy ?

[superboy13]

http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/9311/fos13mp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Earthsea]

why ?

Well I dont see them putting in Time & Money on making something Original that will be used for a Minute or Two only.

[Kane]

I dont think a decent Superman suit would be tht expensive to tailor anyways. Personally Id love it if the suit has some kind of unique design that makes it 'the Welling suit' and not just the same Chris Reeves suit. Maybe the suit could sport the Earth 2 Superman emblem;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/jfirehammer/summer%202005/earth2superman.jpg

[Ultimate_Superman]

Sorry Pickle, I think the movie costume sucks, and dont want to see Welling in anything remotely close to it. It's just an opinion, get over it.Usally I would agree with you but the way SV has been going keeping itself so close to the Donner movies(which SR is a follow up too) I really do think that we might see him in an outfit like SR. I mean it cuts down on cost and everything else. I don't want to see him in it but I say there is a good 50% chance we might.

[KalKai]

I think it's too early to be talking about the suit anyway, if we have a Season 6, we'll see it in 2007, if we have a Season 7, we'll see it in 2008, and if it just stops here, we'll see it in 2006, lol.

[Earthsea]

I think it's too early to be talking about the suit anyway, if we have a Season 6, we'll see it in 2007, if we have a Season 7, we'll see it in 2008, and if it just stops here, we'll see it in 2006, lol.

I doubt there will be a Season 7 that is just pushing it. I think this Show can last one more Season. Unless of course there is a "Metropolis" Series with Clark as Superman living in Metropolis working with Lois at the Planet then I see this show lasting. But would Tom want to play the same Character forever ? A Metropolis Series would last a long time. Richard Dean Anderson left Stargate SG1 after Season 8. Will Tom be willing to do the same ?

[Kane]

I doubt theyd air a Metropolis Superman series while the Superman franchaise is going on in the movie theatres. Its a similar predicament as Bruce Wayne/Batman not able to be used in Smallville due to the BB movie franchaise.

Personally I think a Season 6 is still pushing it....it shouldnt go further than that. The show shouldnt be even set in 'Smallville' anymore (that should have ended in season 4) Clark should be beyond Smallville by now.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I doubt theyd air a Metropolis Superman series while the Superman franchaise is going on in the movie theatres. Its a similar predicament as Bruce Wayne/Batman not able to be used in Smallville due to the BB movie franchaise.

Personally I think a Season 6 is still pushing it....it shouldnt go further than that. The show shouldnt be even set in 'Smallville' anymore (that should have ended in season 4) Clark should be beyond Smallville by now.True:up:

[The Incredible Hulk]

Usally I would agree with you but the way SV has been going keeping itself so close to the Donner movies(which SR is a follow up too) I really do think that we might see him in an outfit like SR. I mean it cuts down on cost and everything else. I don't want to see him in it but I say there is a good 50% chance we might.

It would still be costly to put him in the SR suit, since that one was custom made for Ruth, with padding that molds to his body. Welling is also taller and bigger than Ruth too, they'd have to make a custom suit from scrathc for him as well. The only thing they'd save on would be the design, which they wouldnt have to worry about with Reeve's suit anyway

[The Incredible Hulk]

I dont think a decent Superman suit would be tht expensive to tailor anyways. Personally Id love it if the suit has some kind of unique design that makes it 'the Welling suit' and not just the same Chris Reeves suit. Maybe the suit could sport the Earth 2 Superman emblem;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/jfirehammer/summer%202005/earth2superman.jpg

I think that's a great idea. I would like a look that was unique in certain ways just for Tom. It would be cool to have a "Welling suit" that was unique but still honored the more traditional look.

As for the Earth 2 look that's not bad, I just dont know if I'd want to hear all of the whiners screaming about Smallville taking place on Earth 2.....:O

[Kane]

Thats impossible. Its already contradicted Earth 2 in more ways than one.

[Gregorius]

I saw the pics posted by AgentPat of TW lookin' like he's about to take off, and that face looked really useful for a manip! I think, if you want a manip of Tom Welling as Superman to be really convincing, he has to have a very Superman-ish expression on his face (a look of determination/resolution usually works best). AgentPat's pics had just that, so I couldn't resist manipulating the second one.

http://student.fgcu.edu/ghbontra/RedCape/TWSupermanFlying7.jpg

What d'ya think?

[Ultimate_Superman]

I think that's a great idea. I would like a look that was unique in certain ways just for Tom. It would be cool to have a "Welling suit" that was unique but still honored the more traditional look.

As for the Earth 2 look that's not bad, I just dont know if I'd want to hear all of the whiners screaming about Smallville taking place on Earth 2.....:ONo the people will not think of it as Earth-2 what really is the case for most people that do not follow the news of the show on the internet people will look at this show as part of the S:TM, SII, SR movie. I mean the more they pull from Donner and use the theme the more they are linking themselves to the movies. Thats what I would be more worried about because the FOS is the same as the movies, the theme is the same as the movies, they use clips from S:TM, the phantom zone is close to the same. So thats what I would be more worried about for SV fans that want to keep things apart then the people that worry it might take place in Earth-2 which is not a bad idea if you think of it because then you can have two Superman earth one (Routh) and Earth-2(Welling) where there you can have an ongoing show but it would be a task in itself to explain that.

[Kane]

Calling Smallville Earth 2 would just be too weird. Earth 2 was where John and Mary Kent adopted young Clark and eventually both died, Jay Garrick was Flash (instead of Barry Allen), No Aquaman, no Jonn Jonzz, definately no cyborg, No JLA...just the JSA etc...

I do think there is some merit to what your saying though becuase the way the new movie is designed; it seems almost like it takes place in an alternate universe (earth) from the Donner movies which is slightly different yet very similar....meaning similar events happened.

Id love to hear a reference in the new movie to maybe some columnist writing 'Superman VS Nuclear Man' (Superman IV) as a work of fiction hes writing (getting psychic imagery for inspiration off Donner's universe). That's how it happened in the old multiverse days of 2 earths occupying the same space and time but vibrating at different frequencies.

[dark_b]

Well I dont see them putting in Time & Money on making something Original that will be used for a Minute or Two only.episodes like spell cost money. this money could been used for the suit.

spell was a waste of time. and this is a fact.

[dark_b]

http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/6681/stages5ev.jpg (http://imageshack.us)can i say what i think of this? the manip looks mega fantstic.
you used the SR shield? it looks good. but why didnt you make the trunks and the boots more modern?

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I doubt there will be a Season 7 that is just pushing it. I think this Show can last one more Season. Unless of course there is a "Metropolis" Series with Clark as Superman living in Metropolis working with Lois at the Planet then I see this show lasting.

I think a good way for them to be original could also be having Clark travelling around the world for season 6 and also to see more of his training in the Fortress which is supposed to take place I guess for 12 years...
The name of the show I don't think will ever be a restriction for them to have Clark leave because it's more than the name of the town or the show, it's synonimous of who Clark really is, his upbringing, the values his parents gave him and what makes him what he is and of course it's also the nickname that Lois gave him.

[KalKai]

episodes like spell cost money. this money could been used for the suit.

spell was a waste of time. and this is a fact.

It's no fact, it's your opinion. They all had a good time, if you listen to the spell commentary with Kristin, Allison & Erica you'd realize how much fun they had.

[Gregorius]

Superboy13_bt, I have only one complaint about your Smallville-Metropolis-Superman manip: lose the SR shield. The S-emblem you have on the bottom should be what's on his chest, not that hideous distortion of it that they're trying to pass off as a real Superman symbol. Some things in life and in entertainment should be modernized, but other things should be left as they have been. The Superman costume, and especially the S-emblem, is part of the latter group.

[avidreader]

I think a good way for them to be original could also be having Clark travelling around the world for season 6 and also to see more of his training in the Fortress which is supposed to take place I guess for 12 years...

That would be a great idea, but how would that sit with his College education. Doesnt he need that to become a journalist?

The name of the show I don't think will ever be a restriction for them to have Clark leave because it's more than the name of the town or the show, it's synonimous of who Clark really is, his upbringing, the values his parents gave him and what makes him what he is and of course it's also the nickname that Lois gave him.

I've seen in those Smallville companions or the Smallville Magazine, cant remember which, that the show is about the people from Smallville not just the town of Smallville. So that aligns with what you are saying.

[Pickle-El]

Superboy13_bt, I have only one complaint about your Smallville-Metropolis-Superman manip: lose the SR shield. The S-emblem you have on the bottom should be what's on his chest, not that hideous distortion of it that they're trying to pass off as a real Superman symbol. Some things in life and in entertainment should be modernized, but other things should be left as they have been. The Superman costume, and especially the S-emblem, is part of the latter group.


Wah wah wah.....

[The Incredible Hulk]

oh heaven forbid, someone voiced a dislike about the precious Superman movie :eek: We must call them whiners, and quell this dissention swiftly, for Pickle-El scans these forums with an obsession looking for any naysaying, and will give you the lethal and much feared :rolleyes: REPENT!!!!!!

[Pickle-El]

oh heaven forbid, someone voiced a dislike about the precious Superman movie :eek: We must call them whiners, and quell this dissention swiftly, for Pickle-El scans these forums with an obsession looking for any naysaying, and will give you the lethal and much feared :rolleyes: REPENT!!!!!!

Hey, I'm not the one that can't get over things like that little issue that was brought up....obviously the person who manipped it liked it.

'Everything was great about your manip'....'EXCEPT that S....It's the SR S..so yuck. That S is raping my childhood and memories of the man of steel. I mean, look at how DIFFERENT and ugly it looks from previous S's.'

:rolleyes:

[Gregorius]

Hey, I'm not the one that can't get over things like that little issue that was brought up....obviously the person who manipped it liked it.

'Everything was great about your manip'....'EXCEPT that S....It's the SR S..so yuck. That S is raping my childhood and memories of the man of steel. I mean, look at how DIFFERENT and ugly it looks from previous S's.'

:rolleyes:

You're really putting words into my mouth, aren't you? I never said anything close to "That S is raping my childhood." Besides, I don't have alot of really deep memories of the Man of Steel. I vaguely remember "Lois and Clark," but that's about it up until the time I started watching "Smallville" about two or three years ago. Then I got ahold of the Chris Reeve movies just because Tom Welling had peaked my interest and I wanted to actually see someone in the suit on film. The Reeve movies plus Smallville have until recently constituted the sum total of my Superman fanhood. I have only just now began dabbling into the comics.

Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that I'm not some long-time Superman fan with a sizeable comic collection who's whining about the new S-emblem on the basis of little more than pure nostalgia. I'm 20. I haven't lived long enough to be truly nostalgic about anything. I just don't believe that they should change a classic symbol like that just for the sake of novelty and thrill. That hyper-modernized S-shield would look great on Bizarro's chest, but on Superman's it just isn't right.

If, in fact, the new S-shield was designed to serve the artistic purpose of reflecting the less light-hearted times SR is said to portay, I have a little more respect for their reasoning, but it still doesn't quite hold water with me. I refer you to Superman III, in which CR's Supes was under the influence of something similar to SV's "Red Kryptonite." They darkened the colors of the costume and symbol, but the design remained true to what it should be.

[Serene]

Hey, I'm not the one that can't get over things like that little issue that was brought up....

You're not?
Hulk has a point, Pickle. I welcome your presence here, but it does seem like you are the official SR police for this forum.

I have to wonder if you are so vigilant in busting people for making anti-SV or Welling comments elsewhere?

[Thunder Emperor]

oh heaven forbid, someone voiced a dislike about the precious Superman movie :eek: We must call them whiners, and quell this dissention swiftly, for Pickle-El scans these forums with an obsession looking for any naysaying, and will give you the lethal and much feared :rolleyes: REPENT!!!!!!


yeah i think he couldn't take the harrament i gave him in the sr boards
hahhahahahha

[Kane]

That would be a great idea, but how would that sit with his College education. Doesnt he need that to become a journalist?


In the most recent retcon (Birthright) he did travel the world after leaving Smallville (after high school) earning his college education in various different places and schools...though I doubt that will happen in Smallville. It would be tough doing a series based in Smallville when the lead character is removed from the rest of the cast and in a totally different location.

[AgentPat]

Hey, I'm not the one that can't get over things like that little issue that was brought up....obviously the person who manipped it liked it.Mmm... actually, you do seem to be one of those people sometimes. :p

'Everything was great about your manip'....'EXCEPT that S....It's the SR S..so yuck. That S is raping my childhood and memories of the man of steel. I mean, look at how DIFFERENT and ugly it looks from previous S's.'I suppose I could see why you might be a little perturbed, IF somebody actually said that, but I can't seem to find that quote in this thread. :confused:

Pickle, seriously dude, move on. You know there's gonna be people who Just. Don't. Like. [Insert select complaint in reference to SR here]. So what? Y'know? It's just a movie. :O







As to the shield logo, may I remind folks that this is SMALLVILLE? Geeze, *anything* could happen...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/infinity.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/tongue.gif

[Ultimate_Superman]

In the most recent retcon (Birthright) he did travel the world after leaving Smallville (after high school) earning his college education in various different places and schools...though I doubt that will happen in Smallville. It would be tough doing a series based in Smallville when the lead character is removed from the rest of the cast and in a totally different location.Really in both Birthright and MOS he finshed college the same way.

[Ultimate_Superman]

You're really putting words into my mouth, aren't you? I never said anything close to "That S is raping my childhood." Besides, I don't have alot of really deep memories of the Man of Steel. I vaguely remember "Lois and Clark," but that's about it up until the time I started watching "Smallville" about two or three years ago. Then I got ahold of the Chris Reeve movies just because Tom Welling had peaked my interest and I wanted to actually see someone in the suit on film. The Reeve movies plus Smallville have until recently constituted the sum total of my Superman fanhood. I have only just now began dabbling into the comics.

Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that I'm not some long-time Superman fan with a sizeable comic collection who's whining about the new S-emblem on the basis of little more than pure nostalgia. I'm 20. I haven't lived long enough to be truly nostalgic about anything. I just don't believe that they should change a classic symbol like that just for the sake of novelty and thrill. That hyper-modernized S-shield would look great on Bizarro's chest, but on Superman's it just isn't right.

If, in fact, the new S-shield was designed to serve the artistic purpose of reflecting the less light-hearted times SR is said to portay, I have a little more respect for their reasoning, but it still doesn't quite hold water with me. I refer you to Superman III, in which CR's Supes was under the influence of something similar to SV's "Red Kryptonite." They darkened the colors of the costume and symbol, but the design remained true to what it should be.Well then to be fair you shouldn't base eveything you learn about Superman from Smallvile. Smallville is fine but really far off from what Superman is(meaning the comics because no matter what you always got to draw from the source).

.

[superboy13]

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6752/smallvillesuit8bg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Kane]

Woah...he needs to borrow Routh's codpiece there.

[The Caped Knight]

I know without a doubt The \S/ Emblem that will see in The Series Finale of Smallville.

{It WILL be The Classic Superman Emblem.}
THIS ONE
http://www.choiceshirts.com/images/PL/-0/PL-00467A-md.jpg

For these reasons.
http://www.smallville-gallery.com/albums/screencaps/sc209/S2x09_000.jpg
Dichotic (209) - The S Clark made in metal shop class

http://www.jeffersonfreestate.org/zcaps/smallville/hereafter/smallville_hereafter_z_036_1.jpg
http://www.supermantv.net/episodeguide/thirdseason/hereafter/superdream.gif
Hereafter (312) - Jordan Cross vision of Clark's Future. The yellow \s/ on Superman's red cape.

[Kane]

lol that Jordan kid was on Law and Order SVU

[The Incredible Hulk]

I loved that scene. It was so unexpected and out of the blue, I remember spitting out my drink when I saw it....

[The Caped Knight]

The point is (A) Their not using Superman Returns \S/ SUPERMAN emblem(It's going to be The classic Superman emblem.) {Thank God}
(B) Superman is going to have The Yellow \s/ on the red cape .

[BareKnucklez]

Mmm... actually, you do seem to be one of those people sometimes. :p

I suppose I could see why you might be a little perturbed, IF somebody actually said that, but I can't seem to find that quote in this thread. :confused:

Pickle, seriously dude, move on. You know there's gonna be people who Just. Don't. Like. [Insert select complaint in reference to SR here]. So what? Y'know? It's just a movie. :O







As to the shield logo, may I remind folks that this is SMALLVILLE? Geeze, *anything* could happen...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/infinity.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/tongue.gif


http://tinypic.com/jh312t.jpg

I don't know... :p looks a bit funky...

[AgentPat]

http://tinypic.com/jh312t.jpg

I don't know... :p looks a bit funky...LMAO!!! Yeah, it sure does. Funky, but humorous. The actual scar \8/ looked better, though that's probably because I'm used to seeing that now. Anyhoo, nice manip! :up:

[Anguissette1979]

I like those also:

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-lives/tomwellingsupes2.jpg
http://www.net-connection-now.com/Welling/images/Welling4Superman2.jpg
http://www.net-connection-now.com/Welling/images/Clark%20copy.jpg
http://www.net-connection-now.com/Welling/images/tompose2.jpg
http://www.net-connection-now.com/Welling/images/klk3.jpg

Wow.... doesn't look much like TW but that's a sick poster all the same!

[Kane]

It looks exactly like him with a different hairstyle.

[Anguissette1979]

Maybe... I'm so used to the shaggy look now, lol.

[Kane]

Ya me too. My hairs exactly the same now. Im tempted to cut it but I cant. Its like walking around with a pillow on your head.

[superboy13]

http://tinypic.com/jh312t.jpg

I don't know... :p looks a bit funky...

You know... you could have asked me first if you wanted to manip my manip...

[Kane]

I think he was just trying to illustrate how wrong 8-man looks. He needs an \S/

[superboy13]

I think he was just trying to illustrate how wrong 8-man looks. He needs an \S/

I know... I don't mind him using the manip, I just think it'd have been polite to ask first

[Mike_D]

I know... I don't mind him using the manip, I just think it'd have been polite to ask first

You could have asked Tom Welling if you could manip his picture. :o

[superboy13]

You could have asked Tom Welling if you could manip his picture. :o
I did... he said: "ok, go ahead... just don't erase my bulge... like they did with brandon" :O

well, never mind... new manip:
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/6153/s228aa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

or, maybe another twist for the suit:
http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/8347/wellingfleischer2nd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Kane]

Make his body bigger.

[superboy13]

Well, more like "Tom Welling as SuperBOY Manip", bue whatever:
http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/6/icrisiswall8000tt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Kane]

Dude....thats awesome. Superman, Earth Prime Superboy and Earth 2 Golden Age Supes. Nice work.... but Superboy's super package is still scaring me.

[Milkman95]

^Why? It's just a cup.......

[Kane]

lol It makes him look like a silly donkey or like he has a huge vag. It just needs to be toned down a bit, not that excessive so it looks like it will scare children.

[triplet]

Dude....thats awesome. Superman, Earth Prime Superboy and Earth 2 Golden Age Supes. Nice work.... but Superboy's super package is still scaring me.

Okay, I could really say something about the relative sizes of packages in that image and who's the boy and who's the Man, but I'll restrain myself...

[Milkman95]

^Yeah, too bad the one you're talking about is nothing but a manip not to mention that it's a cup/codpiece. It's also hilarious the "stories" we hear about packages. Routh's and Gruffud's were funny examples to name just a few..........

[Kane]

Okay, I could really say something about the relative sizes of packages in that image and who's the boy and who's the Man, but I'll restrain myself...

Urgh. Hes Superboy in that picture, dont forget that.

But that package looks way off, it looks like its hanging down like a 3rd leg.

Even if its a cup, Rouths cup seems to keep everything together and in proportion alot better than whatever the heck is in Superboy's tights.

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/sigh2.gif
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/sigh.gif

[Kane]

Well its true. Theyll never let something like that make it on camera and traumatize children.

[Gmanofsteel]

Well its true. Theyll never let something like that make it on camera and traumatize children.
"OMG i saw that guy's wee wee . . . i'm gonna kill myself now" :rolleyes:

[Kane]

hey, thats the way it is. Look at all the controversy over trying to conceal Routh's package.

Not that I'm against their decision, it isnt exactly something Id wana see.. or want kids to see.

[Gmanofsteel]

hey, thats the way it is. Look at all the controversy over trying to conceal Routh's package.

Not that I'm against their decision, it isnt exactly something Id wana see.. or want kids to see.
i doubt it has anything to do with scarying kids :p Some might find it a bit scandalous to have something like that so out in the open. The only people who are consumed with the package at all are the adults . . . not little kids. It would be the last thing they'd be looking at.

[Kane]

I dont look at it either. But in that pic it stands out...its a bit extreme.

And ya they defnately dont want kids exposed to it for whatever reason.

Its a bit too disturbing.

[triplet]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/sigh2.gif
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/sigh.gif

LOL!

:D

[AgentPat]

LOL!

:DPathetic, init? :rolleyes:

[triplet]

Pathetic, init? :rolleyes:

Yup...

:D

It's actually highly entertaining.

[Milkman95]

I'll add hypocritical to the list as well. Thanks.

[Kane]

honestly why? I'm telling the truth, theyd never let something like that make it onscreen. It looks too ridiculous.

[Serene]

Pathetic, init? :rolleyes:
To the n-th degree even. :rolleyes:

[Gregorius]

Well, after a few days of troubleshooting, I finally got my Tom-Welling-as-Superman website established at its new domain, http://www.redcapegallery.com ! I crave feedback, good or constructively bad, but more importantly, I NEED MORE PICS! I have 19 images on stock so far, and every single one of them is my own PhotoShopped handiwork. The site revamp turned out great, but it still needs some diversity. So please take a few moments to send me your best Tom-Welling-as-Superman images, or at least give me permission to download them from here and place them on my site.

Thanks!

[AgentPat]

I'll add hypocritical to the list as well. Thanks.
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/confused.gif

Hypocritical? Gimme a break. Try exasperated. Where's the hypocrisy in being WICKED tired of seeing Routh get brought up in THIS thread? And then adding insult to injury, calling Welling Superboy, when he's the oldest of the three Supermen in that manip? I'm sick of it. Plain and simple. Furthermore, the "package" discussion is pathetic because...

A. the Welling image is a MANIP and not even real,
B. the Routh story was created by a tabloid yet some morons STILL believe it, and
C. the only people making a big deal about either appear to be "adult" men.

What's up with that?

[Serene]

And then adding insult to injury, calling Welling Superboy, when he's the oldest of the three Supermen in that manip?

It's so obviously intentional.. and a pathetic attempt at cutting Welling down. Sheesh.. insecure about your boy, much? Next thing you know, someone will start some wild rumor about how big his bulge is. Oh, wait. :rolleyes:

I'm sick of it. Plain and simple. Furthermore, the "package" discussion is pathetic because...

A. the Welling image is a MANIP and not even real,
B. the Routh story was created by a tabloid yet some morons STILL believe it, and
C. the only people making a big deal about either appear to be "adult" men.

What's up with that?

There's a actually a "D." but I'd probably get banned or at least have my hand slapped a bit if I spelled it out.

[Milkman95]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/confused.gif

Hypocritical? Gimme a break. Try exasperated. Where's the hypocrisy in being WICKED tired of seeing Routh get brought up in THIS thread? And then adding insult to injury, calling Welling Superboy, when he's the oldest of the three Supermen in that manip? I'm sick of it. Plain and simple. Furthermore, the "package" discussion is pathetic because...

A. the Welling image is a MANIP and not even real,
B. the Routh story was created by a tabloid yet some morons STILL believe it, and
C. the only people making a big deal about either appear to be "adult" men.

What's up with that?

Let me clear a few things up........

-Yes, of course the TW pic was a manip.
-Yes, the Routh and the Gruffud stories are ridiculous and fake.
-When did I bring up Routh?
-Lastly, a TW supporter adds insult to injury over a manip and then turns around and says it's pathetic - that was indeed hypocritical.

Well, TW may be the oldest, but he's not the oldest looking in some people's opinions. If you're sick of it, oh well.

[superboy13]

Hey, I'm glad you people liked my manip...
The original pic was from a museum where they have a Chris Reeve wax sculpture... that's were the body came from....

[Kane]

It's so obviously intentional.. and a pathetic attempt at cutting Welling down. Sheesh.. insecure about your boy, much? Next thing you know, someone will start some wild rumor about how big his bulge is. Oh, wait. :rolleyes:



There's a actually a "D." but I'd probably get banned or at least have my hand slapped a bit if I spelled it out.

Ok seriously...now your just being dumb and overly emotional.

Let me clarify something incase you missed the other times it was already mentioned (including the original post):

The character featuring Welling's face in that Manip is SUPERBOY of EARTH PRIME. Hes a character in the DC Mythos and has appeared in Infinite Crisis which is the topic of the picture.

Obviously in regards to the picture itself, Im not going to refer to the guy in the center as 'Superman' because its depicted there as 'Earth Prime Superboy'. Its not difficult of a concept to comprehend.

[Kane]

Let me clear a few things up........

-Yes, of course the TW pic was a manip.
-Yes, the Routh and the Gruffud stories are ridiculous and fake.
-When did I bring up Routh?
-Lastly, a TW supporter adds insult to injury over a manip and then turns around and says it's pathetic - that was indeed hypocritical.

Well, TW may be the oldest, but he's not the oldest looking in some people's opinions. If you're sick of it, oh well.

This has nothing to do with him being the oldest...Personally he doesnt that young to me at all.

That wasnt the reason why I refered to the middle character as "Superboy"....its because it IS SUPERBOY of Earth Prime.

[Serene]

Ok seriously...now your just being dumb and overly emotional.

Did you just call me "dumb?"

That's amazingly funny coming from you. :D

Hey, did you hear that? The distant sound of *plonkage.*

[Kane]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/confused.gif

Hypocritical? Gimme a break. Try exasperated. Where's the hypocrisy in being WICKED tired of seeing Routh get brought up in THIS thread? And then adding insult to injury, calling Welling Superboy, when he's the oldest of the three Supermen in that manip? I'm sick of it. Plain and simple. Furthermore, the "package" discussion is pathetic because...

A. the Welling image is a MANIP and not even real,
B. the Routh story was created by a tabloid yet some morons STILL believe it, and
C. the only people making a big deal about either appear to be "adult" men.

What's up with that?

Alright I never said anything against Welling's real penis size...only against how it looked in the picture.

If the Routh story about the codpiece was fake, then its my bad for believing it because I must have missed the thread where it was proven fake. All I saw was the jokes and references to it as if it were real. Personally its not even too relevant here, since Im not defending Routh (who I have no basis for comparison with other actors yet) but just showing how his 'package' looked in the pic to illustrate to the manipper how to get the dimensions better.

And...wow, I take serious offence to you calling me a 'moron' when at the same time you claim your a 41 year old woman and a dedicated fan of the comics, yet you didnt even know who 'Superboy Prime' was....or at least didnt seem to, the way you blindly accused me there.

I couldnt call the guy in the center of that Manip anything else but 'Superboy' because thats what hes depicted as in the picture.

[Kane]

Did you just call me "dumb?"

That's amazingly funny coming from you. :D

Hey, did you hear that? The distant sound of *plonkage.*

Believe me its not. Did you actually read my post?

The way you were slamming me for calling the guy in the center of the manip 'Superboy' wasnt justifed at all since he is intended to be Superboy in that pic. You're the party at fault here.

Thats what kinda disapointed me about you there...

[triplet]

The manip shouldn't have been posted here to begin with. Routh is persona non grata on this forum and yet he keeps coming up, somehow.

I'm getting a headache....

Believe me its not....

Uhm, do you know what "plonkage" means? I guess not from this response, it's the sound of you getting put on ignore again so I guess Serene's not going to read your reply to her.

And here you were, learning to play well with others and you go and ruin it. I actually defended you the other day, now I'm rethinking the wisdom of that.

[Kane]

And calling me insecure and stuff, when I was NEVER commenting about the real Tom Welling...but just that one manip...was just really cold.

If Rouths head was on that body, I would have made the same observation and said something. Nothing to do with Welling.

Personally Im undecided between the two, and thats the honest truth (not that its even relevant here).

[superboy13]

The manip shouldn't have been posted here to begin with. Routh is persona non grata on this forum and yet he keeps coming up, somehow.

I'm getting a headache....



Uhm, do you know what "plonkage" means? I guess not from this response, it's the sound of you getting put on ignore again so I guess Serene's not going to read your reply to her.

And here you were, learning to play well with others and you go and ruin it. I actually defended you the other day, now I'm rethinking the wisdom of that.

Oh, so then it's my fault? If you actually believe that I did something wrong by posting that manip, then I apologize... but I don't think I really should... I just want to stop this nonsense...

[triplet]

Oh, so then it's my fault? If you actually believe that I did something wrong by posting that manip, then I apologize... but I don't think I really should... I just want to stop this nonsense...

No, I'm not blaming you and I know you meant well but BJ images posted on this forum tend to bring the worst out of people as you can see.

Best to not do it again, perhaps...

[Kane]

Alright. For the last time, it has nothing to do with Brandon Routh in that picture.

If he wasnt in the picture, We'd still be having this conversation.

Its a moot point.

You are not at fault superboy13bt except for making a manip that depicted Superboy with Welling's image...apparently some members in this forum cant deal with that.

[avidreader]

Well I dont know if I'm speaking for most, but there is nothing about that picture that says Superboy to me. But then I'm not a comic book fan and couldnt tell one from the other any how. So that's probably why things went skewif.

How about we just call a truce and post some nice manips. Superboy, you got any more. :)

[superboy13]

You are not at fault superboy13bt except for making a manip that depicted Superboy with Welling's image...apparently some members in this forum cant deal with that.

My bad.... http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3682/superboywelling4jh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
:eek::eek::eek:

[Kane]

Well I dont know if I'm speaking for most, but there is nothing about that picture that says Superboy to me. But then I'm not a comic book fan and couldnt tell one from the other any how. So that's probably why things went skewif.

How about we just call a truce and post some nice manips. Superboy, you got any more.


Alrighty. Ill explain though. During the precrisis multiverse days, there was a world called Earth Prime where young Clark (as Superboy) was the only hero.

Earth Prime Superboy was one of the few survivors of the 1986 Crisis on Infinite Earths. He was put into a pocket universe removed from the new timeline of one merged earth (since his earth didnt exist anymore) along with Golden Age Superman and Lois of Earth 2 and Alexander Luthor of Earth 3.

Upon the Infinite Crisis, the foursome broke out of the pocket universe and appeared on Earth Sigma (the merged Earth) so currently there are 3 Kal-Els on Earth during the Infinite Crisis; Golden Age Superman of Earth 2 (depicted by Reeve in that picture), Superman of Earth Sigma (depicted by Routh) and Superboy of Earth Prime (depicted by Welling).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Prime_Superboy

[Kane]

My bad....
:eek::eek::eek:

Well..personally I liked your Infinite Crisis manip with the exception of that one thing (no pun intended), Im just speaking for others on here.

Oh and nice Kon-El pic there....though he needs the classic Kon haircut, shaved on the sides.

[Gregorius]

Mock movie poster:
http://www.redcapegallery.com/Posters/Emergence.jpg

Wallpaper:
http://www.redcapegallery.com/Wallpaper/SupermanFlies.jpg

[Kane]

lol dude...the hair, it looks so silly. Just use a pic of Smallville Clark with real hair and darken it using photoshop...instead of drawing it on.

[Gregorius]

I didn't draw the hair on. That's Chris Reeve's scalp in both pics, warped somewhat to fit TW's head. There aren't a whole lot of pics to choose fromof SV's Clark with a hairstyle befitting a full-fledged Superman. That mop-top style he usually wears just doesn't cut it.

Maybe you'd like this one. I figured that, during a shirt rip, he's in transition between identities and hasn't brushed his hair back yet, so I left his own hair intact.

http://www.redcapegallery.com/Posters/Man%20of%20Steel.jpg

[Kane]

Ah. Thats prolly why it doesnt look right. Just darken Clark's existing hair.

[AgentPat]

Let me clear a few things up........

-Yes, of course the TW pic was a manip.
-Yes, the Routh and the Gruffud stories are ridiculous and fake.
-When did I bring up Routh?
-Lastly, a TW supporter adds insult to injury over a manip and then turns around and says it's pathetic - that was indeed hypocritical.Who? My first sigh was over the Superboy references. I also found it pathetic that folks were actually debating cod piece size in a bloody manip. And yeah, I do get exasperated when posters go off topic into Routh la la land here, especially since you can't get more in-your-face than posting pictures of the guy in THIS thread, so sue me on all accounts. Guilty as charged.

Well, TW may be the oldest, but he's not the oldest looking in some people's opinions. If you're sick of it, oh well.I didn't say I was sick of people's opinions. I'm sick of the Superboy references. You listening, Crisis? I KNOW who Superboy is. TW isn't playing a young Superboy and never has. You'll never see that character name used in the official synopsis of the show, but you WILL see Superman referenced repeatedly. To manip TW as Superboy is the same as maniping Routh as such; both are wrong and only serve to annoy fans on both sides.

Are we splitting hairs here? Yeah, maybe just a little. But it comes with being a diehard fan of the show and wanting to see some respect for the characters being played. TW isn't playing Superboy now, and you won't see him as that in the finale episode of the show. You will however see him as Superman. There's a big difference. As a fellow "comic book geek" (I say that with pride), you should know that. And I'm sorry for the moron comment. It wasn't directed at you specifically, though I didn't clarify that in my rant, so I apologize.

Milkman, you know as well as I WHY TW looks the way he does on SV. It's all make-up (caked on with a trowel) and costuming so he *looks* like an 18 yo. Nobody here has seen what Welling would really look like fitted in his own Superman costume, or seen him made-up to look his actual age AS Superman. Most people just slap his Clark-as-teenager head on other Supermen bodies, none of which match Welling's body shape 100%. Even one of the very few manips that actually used Welling's own body - DarkB's excellent Aqua manip - still has Clark's very un-Supermanly moptop do and preoccupied, melancholic expression. But if you don't agree, that's fine. I can see it from your POV too. I had one luminary PM me Wizard's DP doughboy scan a few weeks ago with the ludicrous idea that my perception would change because it was a different pose or something. Yeah, ahuh. Righto. :up: :rolleyes:


Back on topic...

Gregorius, I really like this one:
http://www.redcapegallery.com/Posters/Man%20of%20Steel.jpg

[superboy13]

TW isn't playing a young Superboy and never has. You'll never see that character name used in the official synopsis of the show, but you WILL see Superman referenced repeatedly. To manip TW as Superboy is the same as maniping Routh as such; both are wrong and only serve to annoy fans on both sides.

I'm not trying to annoy anyone... I used TW's face because Earth-Prime Superboy is Kal-El when he was about 18 years old (exactly the character that Welling is playing in SV)

[Kane]

Exactly Pat. I was refering to the picture itself. It depicted Welling as Superboy of Earth Prime.

Youre being irrational. Dont take it out on me, I was just noting what I saw.

Actually heres a constructive suggestion to Superboy13bt, make Earth Prime Superboy using the face of the guy who played young Clark in Superman 1...that way you could avoid controversy..and it still works well since hes supposed to be young Chris Reeve (Earth 2 Supes) and Routh (Superman) resembles Reeve. Problem Solved.

[Kane]

I didn't draw the hair on. That's Chris Reeve's scalp in both pics, warped somewhat to fit TW's head. There aren't a whole lot of pics to choose fromof SV's Clark with a hairstyle befitting a full-fledged Superman. That mop-top style he usually wears just doesn't cut it.

Maybe you'd like this one. I figured that, during a shirt rip, he's in transition between identities and hasn't brushed his hair back yet, so I left his own hair intact.



Its good artwork. Do you use photoshop or something else?

[superboy13]

Exactly Pat. I was refering to the picture itself. It depicted Welling as Superboy of Earth Prime.

Youre being irrational. Dont take it out on me, I was just noting what I saw.

Actually heres a constructive suggestion to Superboy13bt, make Earth Prime Superboy using the face of the guy who played young Clark in Superman 1...that way you could avoid controversy..and it still works well since hes supposed to be young Chris Reeve (Earth 2 Supes) and Routh (Superman) resembles Reeve. Problem Solved.

I actually thought of using Stephan Bender.... since he'll be playing young Clark in SR

[Kane]

Hmm naw. Use the guy from Superman 1. Hes playing teenage Clark.

Its unsure right now what age Bender will be playing Clark as....teenager or even a younger kid.

Bender looks disturbingly like Reeve though in that official pic with the crystal. Good casting.

[superboy13]

Hmm naw. Use the guy from Superman 1. Hes playing teenage Clark

Jeff East, right?

[Kane]

Ya. Or you could use the face of one of the Superboy actors from the 80s TV series, since they already have the hair done right.

[Serene]

I didn't draw the hair on. That's Chris Reeve's scalp in both pics, warped somewhat to fit TW's head. There aren't a whole lot of pics to choose fromof SV's Clark with a hairstyle befitting a full-fledged Superman. That mop-top style he usually wears just doesn't cut it.

Maybe you'd like this one. I figured that, during a shirt rip, he's in transition between identities and hasn't brushed his hair back yet, so I left his own hair intact.

http://www.redcapegallery.com/Posters/Man%20of%20Steel.jpg

Nice one, Gregorius. :up:

[AgentPat]

Jeff East?
Stephen Bender?
Joe freakin' Blow?

:rolleyes:

I swear, what IS it about the title of this thread that folks just don't understand? Somebody help me out here. *sigh*

On second thought, don't. I'd rather just move on. I'm tired of arguing the obvious.




Does anybody remember who did this manip? It's one of my artsy favs...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-unknown3.jpg

[Kane]

His leg is positioned weirdly. It looks like its missing. I think it would look better if the hair was fixed properly.

[Serene]

Does anybody remember who did this manip? It's one of my artsy favs...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-unknown3.jpg

I never saw that one before (Pat.. you holding out on me?) ;)

Nice background, and great face. I like it.

[AgentPat]

I never saw that one before (Pat.. you holding out on me?) ;)

Nice background, and great face. I like it.Oh, I've got a bunch of SUPERMAN manips of Welling. :p Only problem is, when I first started saving 'em, I didn't note who the artists were, so I have filenames like "manip001.jpg," "manip002.jpg," etc. It's frustrating 'cause while I do remember some, most are just unknown. I've been reluctant to post the others w/o being able to properly credit the manipers. :(

[superboy13]

slight imprvements made:
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/2732/s2225im.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[KalKai]

This doesn't have anything to do with the topic but i'm not creating a new thread just for this lol, found this in the Comic Book forum:

"I have. Theyre harmless. But that board is scary, theyre mainly weird 40 year old women and homosexuals." Crisis Superman.

You still think that Crisis Superman? lol.

[The Caped Knight]

slight imprvements made:
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/2732/s2225im.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Not bad

Exspet

(1) The \S/ on the chest does not look like this :supes:

(2) The belt doesn't look right.

[triplet]

This doesn't have anything to do with the topic but i'm not creating a new thread just for this lol, found this in the Comic Book forum:

"I have. Theyre harmless. But that board is scary, theyre mainly weird 40 year old women and homosexuals." Crisis Superman.

You still think that Crisis Superman? lol.

Unbelievable...

This from the guy who said that he wanted to be a better person online.

Nice.

[Kane]

This doesn't have anything to do with the topic but i'm not creating a new thread just for this lol, found this in the Comic Book forum:

"I have. Theyre harmless. But that board is scary, theyre mainly weird 40 year old women and homosexuals." Crisis Superman.

You still think that Crisis Superman? lol.

:confused: That was from a while back...and umm I plead the fifth. You're trying to get me in trouble. :p I didnt take the forums seriously before.

[Kane]

Unbelievable...

This from the guy who said that he wanted to be a better person online.

Nice.

Ya umm...that post hes quoting was long before I made my vow to be nicer.

[KalKai]

Yeah that's why I asked you if you still think that, I don't wanna get you in trouble, that was in October 2005.

[triplet]

Ya umm...that post hes quoting was long before I made my vow to be nicer.

Ya, ummm... How do you explain how you been acting today then?

[Kane]

It was justified. Go back and read the threads. Serene and Agent Pat were being overemotional and mean to me because I refered to 'Superboy' in that Infinite Crisis manip....yet I was correct. It was intended to depict 'Superboy of Earth Prime' and it does. Obviously I'll defend myself if I'm being unfairly targeted without proper justification.

[triplet]

But you made it personal and that is never justified.

[Kane]

It becomes personal when they say the things they said.

I just defended myself.

[Thunder Emperor]

Jeff East?
Stephen Bender?
Joe freakin' Blow?

:rolleyes:

I swear, what IS it about the title of this thread that folks just don't understand? Somebody help me out here. *sigh*

On second thought, don't. I'd rather just move on. I'm tired of arguing the obvious.




Does anybody remember who did this manip? It's one of my artsy favs...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-unknown3.jpg



serious Pat stop the hording of manips. not cool lol

[triplet]

It becomes personal when they say the things they said.

I just defended myself.

I'm not going to get into this with you, I think you over reacted....

Whatever.

[Kane]

I think I didnt. They were the ones who over reacted first. I just returned the sentiment.

[Pickle-El]

But you made it personal and that is never justified.

To be fair....I read his posts, and it didn't seem like he was trying to cause any trouble. He immediately got called out for something he didn't even know he did. (Which he DIDN'T btw, everyone just gets agitated around here obvious reasons) I personally didn't see the big deal about it. (No pun)

[BareKnucklez]

You know... you could have asked me first if you wanted to manip my manip...

I think he was just trying to illustrate how wrong 8-man looks. He needs an \S/

I know... I don't mind him using the manip, I just think it'd have been polite to ask first

Sorry didnt mean anything by it like CS said I was just trying to illustrate how wrong 8-man looks. I didn't know it was your manip also. :)

[RakuMon]

Ya know, I kind of see Crisis' point. And I don't blame superboy for manipping TW as Superboy (hell, it isn't the first time. Remember this one? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/Adenjo/Clarkv2.jpg
That's also TW as Superboy)


Anyway, I see why he manip'd the way he did. For all intents and purposes, those three actors represent the character at those particular ages. As an Infinite Crisis manip, it makes sense. While I may not agree with WB's casting decisions, this is how it panned out. And the IC comparison makes sense. There was no malicious intent in calling TW Superboy in that context.

That being said, I think the mere presence of BR in this here forum causes emotional outbursts from everyone. I think in this case everyone overreacted. We should just call a truce and let bygones be bygones.

[RakuMon]

Does anybody remember who did this manip? It's one of my artsy favs...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-unknown3.jpg

I believe that's Adenjo's: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6305623&postcount=381
Whatever happened to him anyway?

[The Incredible Hulk]

he went over to the Planet like most other superman fans with a half a brain, because the superman forums here went to hell about a year ago

[avidreader]

Ya know, I kind of see Crisis' point. And I don't blame superboy for manipping TW as Superboy (hell, it isn't the first time. Remember this one? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/Adenjo/Clarkv2.jpg
That's also TW as Superboy)


Anyway, I see why he manip'd the way he did. For all intents and purposes, those three actors represent the character at those particular ages. As an Infinite Crisis manip, it makes sense. While I may not agree with WB's casting decisions, this is how it panned out. And the IC comparison makes sense. There was no malicious intent in calling TW Superboy in that context.

That being said, I think the mere presence of BR in this here forum causes emotional outbursts from everyone. I think in this case everyone overreacted. We should just call a truce and let bygones be bygones.

Humour this ignoramus and tell me why is that Superboy? :D

[Ultimate_Superman]

Ya know, I kind of see Crisis' point. And I don't blame superboy for manipping TW as Superboy (hell, it isn't the first time. Remember this one? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/Adenjo/Clarkv2.jpg
That's also TW as Superboy)


Anyway, I see why he manip'd the way he did. For all intents and purposes, those three actors represent the character at those particular ages. As an Infinite Crisis manip, it makes sense. While I may not agree with WB's casting decisions, this is how it panned out. And the IC comparison makes sense. There was no malicious intent in calling TW Superboy in that context.

That being said, I think the mere presence of BR in this here forum causes emotional outbursts from everyone. I think in this case everyone overreacted. We should just call a truce and let bygones be bygones.agreed. I think there was nothing wrong with that pic of Routh, Reeve and welling. For those of you who read the comics and understand both of the crisis you should understand for the most part where he was coming from. For the people who don't I can uderstand why you would get upset but you should have asked for someone to explain the reason of Superboy prime before jumping the gun over the title given.

[RakuMon]

Humour this ignoramus and tell me why is that Superboy? :D
No problem.
The current Superboy is a clone of Superman and Lex Luthor. His 'costume' is just a black t-shirt and jeans:
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/5/58/250px-Teentitans2.jpg
http://supermanfanart.com/artists/frahme/images/teen-titans.jpg

[avidreader]

Oh, okay I remember reading that in the death of Superman, but I didnt remember that he had chosen that particular outfit as his uniform.

Thanks Raku.

[Serene]

There was no malicious intent in calling TW Superboy in that context.

That being said, I think the mere presence of BR in this here forum causes emotional outbursts from everyone. I think in this case everyone overreacted. We should just call a truce and let bygones be bygones.

And the voice of reason prevails. :)

You're right, I probably did over-react (though truthfully, my initial posting wasn't even directed at CS specifically, it was more lashing out in frustration). It's kinda sad that it's become almost a knee-jerk reaction to defend the guy, but that's part of being a Tom Welling fan in a Superman world, I guess. But you know.. there have been a few issues, historically, in this forum, that everyone is well aware of. But you are right, and there shouldn't be any problem with posting that manip here. I just don't personally care for it. :)

So, CS and superboybt, I do apologize for getting annoyed about the manip.

[Kane]

It's forgotten.


I feel like making my own manip. What software do you use superboybt?

[superboy13]

It's forgotten.


I feel like making my own manip. What software do you use superboybt?

It's ok Serene, don't worry...

Crisis Superman, I use Adobe Photoshop CS to make manips... it's quite easy once you get used to it.

[Kane]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/lss.jpg

[Kane]

Crisis Superman, I use Adobe Photoshop CS to make manips... it's quite easy once you get used to it.

Where do you download it from?

[superboy13]

Where do you download it from?

I used some kind of P2P program... I think it was E-mule

[Gregorius]

These are my thoughts, in a nutshell, on the idea of Tom Welling as Superman, as quoted from the Red Cape Gallery homepage.

TOM WELLING AS SUPERMAN

A Brief Analysis





I, for one, believe that Tom Welling would make an excellent Superman and that the qualms others may have about him assuming the role can be resolved simply by making a few minor adjustments:

1) On Smallville, make-up is presumably used to make him look younger, since he’s about 10 years older than Clark is supposed to be. In order for him to play a mature Superman, make-up should instead be applied only to accent his features or, at most, to make him look only slightly older. After all, Tom Welling is actually a few years older than Christopher Reeve was when he took on the role.

2) Smallville’s Clark Kent usually wears his hair in a casual mop-top style. Although this look could work well for his civilian identity even in his adult career (Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter), Superman does not have bangs. His hair needs to be brushed back, with a distinct curl in the front that barely tickles his forehead. The style worn by Christopher Reeve in the movies directed by Richard Donner is a good example.

3) As an actor, Tom must adapt his demeanor so that his presence his more commanding and he appears more confident and resolved. The out-from-under-the-eyebrows look of determination we sometimes see on Smallville should be one of his primary facial expressions. Folding his arms across his chest more often would also be advisable. At any rate, his performance on Smallville leaves little room to doubt that he is perfectly capable of conveying such a commanding and determined presence onscreen.

4) He must be given a well-designed costume that is unique and yet true to the classic Superman look.

The challenge would not be making Tom Welling look and act convincingly like Superman. The challenge would probably be convincing him to take on the role in the first place, since highly substantiated rumors seem to suggest that he objects to the idea of wearing a Superman costume.

[Kane]

Another attempt: Tom Welling on the Silver Screen.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/Silver.jpg

The Classic Superman.

[Gregorius]

What do you all think of this one?

http://www.redcapegallery.com/Miscellaneous%20Images/WellingSuperman12.jpg

[avidreader]

I think they're good Gregorious, but there is something about the hair in all of them. It kind of reminds me of a Superman figurine that I bought back in 1994 with the hair painted on. I think if you could make the hair look more realistic, then the whole thing would look more real.

[Gmanofsteel]

I didn't draw the hair on. That's Chris Reeve's scalp in both pics, warped somewhat to fit TW's head. There aren't a whole lot of pics to choose fromof SV's Clark with a hairstyle befitting a full-fledged Superman. That mop-top style he usually wears just doesn't cut it.

Maybe you'd like this one. I figured that, during a shirt rip, he's in transition between identities and hasn't brushed his hair back yet, so I left his own hair intact.

http://www.redcapegallery.com/Posters/Man%20of%20Steel.jpg

this one is fantastic! your best one yet :)

[Kane]

Found this on the Superman board:

Damn this manip is awesome!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/Halfricaun/original.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/Halfricaun/crisis.jpg

[AgentPat]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/Halfricaun/crisis.jpgWow! A respectful manip with Welling in it from Wormy. Well I'll be damned. :eek:

Nice to see she's gotten past her lingerie fetish for him. :rolleyes:

Awesome Crisis manip. It's probably the best one I've ever seen! :up: :up: :up:

[rumpuso]

Who's the girl in Super Girl's role? (at least I assume that's Super Girl...opposite from Tom?)

[AgentPat]

Who's the girl in Super Girl's role? (at least I assume that's Super Girl...opposite from Tom?)Ya got me? :confused: LOL But you're probably right in assuming she's Supergirl given Reeve in the center and Welling on the left.

'Tis a damn good manip.

[Gmanofsteel]

Found this on the Superman board:

Damn this manip is awesome!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/Halfricaun/original.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/Halfricaun/crisis.jpg
amazing, stunning, FANTASTIC :D

[Kane]

Ya got me? :confused: LOL But you're probably right in assuming she's Supergirl given Reeve in the center and Welling on the left.

'Tis a damn good manip.

Welling is on the left as Superboy. Chris Reeve is center as Superman. The blonde girl on the the right is Kara....and she looks like Kristanna Loken there.

[Kane]

The only celebs are..

Chris-Superman (doh)
Bale-Batman (doh)
Lynda- Wonderwoman (doh)

Wes Bentley- Nightwing
Frankie Muniz- Robin
Oded Fehr- Black Adam
George Clooney- Adam Strange
Steve Bushimi- Dr. Light
Deathstroke- Danger Diabolik
Sinestro- Jeremy irons
Zoom- John Wesley Shipp
Bizzaro- Chris Reeves

Everyone else is just a random face.
It was one of the hardest manips I've ever made.

Just finding all those faces and pieces took weeks! (on and off)
I had to rent Wonderwoman season 1 to get that pose of Lynda Carter folding her arms. I had to have her in that pose or it would have thrown the whole thing off. :(

Theres the official explanation. Maybe it wasnt Kristanna but it looks like her.

[Gregorius]

How much of an improvement did I make on the hair?

http://www.redcapegallery.com/Wallpaper/SupermanFlies.jpg

http://www.redcapegallery.com/Wallpaper/SupermanFlies2.jpg

http://www.redcapegallery.com/Miscellaneous%20Images/WellingSuperman12.jpg

[Kane]

I can see the hair improved slightly but the manips still look saturday morning cartoony to me.

Maybe its the proportions?

I duno. It doesnt matter. Its not easy to make those.

[RakuMon]

bump

[Spare-Flair]

How much of an improvement did I make on the hair?

The heads are just out of proportion. They are way too big.

[Jedi Master]

the last one looks like lincoln burrows from prison break..small body, big head lol

[Jedi Master]

randy orton up for nightwing?

[Gregorius]

How does the hair and head size look here?

http://www.redcapegallery.com/Miscellaneous%20Images/WellingSuperman13.jpg

[KalKai]

double post.

[KalKai]

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5401/tomsuper0sv.jpg

Credit to Cutty382 at ThePlanet.

[Kane]

ooo nice outfit LOL

[AgentPat]

Mike over at the Planet continues to amaze me. Here's another one of his creations...

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1575/wellons1mr.png

That's Welling's ACTUAL body (from the beginning of Slumber, 3rd season). The head is from another shot of Welling. There's no "padding" or exaggeration in that manip. It's ALL him.

I know I've said this before, but it appears that this season Welling has been focusing on size, not definition. The latter is unimportant provided the suit is airbrushed with the proper shadows and highlights. He'd look like he stepped right off the page of a comic book with the right suit...

Mortal:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/mortal8.jpg

Thirst:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/thirst2.jpg

Exposed:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/exposed10.jpg

Splinter:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/splinter2.jpg

Solitude:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/solitude4.jpg

[The Caped Knight]

Mike over at the Planet continues to amaze me. Here's another one of his creations...

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1575/wellons1mr.png



AMAZING !!! :supes: Lois,SUPERMAN , Lex (THE SUPER BIG THREE) :up: :up:

[AgentPat]

^ Init a mindscrew how much his face changes with short hair, ala Superman?

It goes from round, to long and angular with an almost exaggerated jaw!
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/legacy.jpg

There's a HUGE difference in his appearance when his hair is off his face too...
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-mike2.jpg

I really like Mike's manips. They're spot on!

Here's an actual photo...
http://www.tomwelling.org/archives/2006/01/16/499/

(Click on the small inset picture under "News and Updates.")

[LL2K2]

^ Init a mindscrew how much his face changes with short hair, ala Superman?

It goes from round, to long and angular with an almost exaggerated jaw!
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/legacy.jpg

There's a HUGE difference in his appearance when his hair is off his face too...
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-mike2.jpg

I really like Mike's manips. They're spot on!

Here's an actual photo...
http://www.tomwelling.org/archives/2006/01/16/499/

(Click on the small inset picture under "News and Updates.")

Oh, Pat, and lest we forget: "Relic"? ;)

[triplet]

Crisis, your obsession with Clex is getting annoying...

[Kane]

what obsession? I just saw it on the Smallville fan art page. Thought it was funny.

You guys call it Clex? Oh brother. It scares me how many smallville fans are into that slash nonsense. They take it too far with pics like those...but I just cant help but laugh at some of their horrible ideas..like "Clex".

[AgentPat]

LMAO!!! Actually, that's a great manip. I like it. Well.... I wouldn't "use" it per se, but it's well done. So props to the artist, whoever they are. :)

[Kane]

Im guess you still cant read....I posted it for pure jokes.

Believe me, if you think thats bad...you dont want to see the majority of crap on http://www.smallvillefanart.com/

The SV fanbase constantly disturbs me.

[The Caped Knight]

Believe me, if you think thats bad...you dont want to see the majority of crap on http://www.smallvillefanart.com/

The SV fanbase constantly disturbs me.

Ahhhh My eyes, my eyes :eek: .I think I'm going to need therapy. That is one SICK SV fanbase . :down :down

[AgentPat]

Im guess you still cant read....I posted it for pure jokes.Well, for what it's worth, I laughed. I didn't find it disrespectful - questionable in its implications, yes, LOL, but not disrespectful. And I still think it's a good manip, so I'm good.

The SV fanbase constantly disturbs me.Oh, we're not all THAT bad. :p

[Kane]

I didnt mean you. You dont go overboard... or at least I havent seen it.

[The Incredible Hulk]

yeah I dont mind talking about the show to death and getting in debates about physics and crap like that. I do however draw the line at "Slash" and weird stuff like that. Though if you think it's weird the SV fanbase does that stuff, you should see the stuff the Trekkies have :eek:

[Serene]

I do however draw the line at "Slash" and weird stuff like that.
Meh.
Tomayto, tomahto...
http://bestsmileys.com/kissing1/25.gif

[avidreader]

Meh.
Tomayto, tomahto...
http://bestsmileys.com/kissing1/25.gif

Me. I always say tomahto. Causes endless confusion when I go and buy a sandwich and say no tomahto please. :O