Tom Welling as Superman Manips [Archive] - Page 7

Bruce_Wayne29

03-15-2006, 01:15 PM

All vaild and good points. All I am saying SV impact on Superman will last as long as the show last and thats it. The only thing from Superman that is not part of the comics that will last is Reeve for he was Superman. SV after it runs it course will die out because when the last season of SV airs you still have 2 Superman movies and in talks a Superman/Batman movie that will over shadow it because lets face more people care about him as Superman then before he was Superman. As I said before SV is a great show but it has not left anything long lasting on Superman. Take SV inpact on the comics for example everything they tried to add from SV into the comics the fans had a problem with.

1. You redo Lex's origin now yes I like it. But in turn you take out so many other things people loved about Lex (Perry's son is real Lex, Lex's daughter, Lex and Perry battles, etc)

2. You try to write Superman to act more like Welling. What happens many fans complain (Superman whines to much, Superman doubts himself to much, Superman is to *****y

3. You add Black K to Superman what did you get (Why the F did they puck this in there this is not SV, Keep SV out of the comics, Why the hell is this here its stupid and pointless)

This just some of the reactions you get when you try to expand on SV or make it have a bigger impact then it already does and I am not the only one who thinks this. As I say as a show SV is great but as anything else it is just a show. Just like Adam West Batman or Reeves Superman. It will never be anything more. See the problem I think is people try to think this show will reach the levels of Superman: The Movie and Superman II and it will come no where as close. Thats the problem I think Welling is great for what he has done but other then that this show will fade just any other show because all it is about is Superman's time in Smallville which has been changed more times then one. All you need to know is Superman came from Krypton, was found be a kind couple and he is now Superman because his origin has been done to death. All people care about is what he has done after SV. Now thats all I am saying yes SV is a great show I am not taking anything away from that. What I am saying is though it will not have the impact most will think.

Some of it it's really debatable. George Reeve's (regardless of my or anyone else's opinion of it and it's star) made a huge impact. There's some ppl out there believe it or not that associate Superman with him and think he embodied the character better than Chris. I may disagree with it but it's true that these ppl exist.
And if you say Batman, there will be alot of ppl that will say Adam West. Still to this day. Even because talking seriously the only thing that held that show together was him. Because in the middle of such campyness and wearing that ridiculous suit, he played the character in a way that took itself really seriously. If he had done a different version of the character he could have had an even bigger impact perhaps. So I disagree that they are only tv shows or that SV will die after the show ends. Smallville and especially Tom Welling will remain in the public's memory for a long long time.

The Caped Knight

03-15-2006, 01:23 PM

OMG, another Amazing Kal-EL drawing.

http://www.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_5731/subcat_10158/Smallville.jpg

:eek: :up: :up: :supes:

RakuMon

03-15-2006, 03:39 PM

The Crow: Stairway to Heaven (not sure which came first - the film or the comic book?)

The Crow was a James O'Barr comic book before it was made into a Brandon Lee film.

KalKai

03-15-2006, 08:51 PM

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2117/cksn2nu.jpg

hmmm.. ? ;) :D

AgentPat

03-15-2006, 09:02 PM

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2117/cksn2nu.jpg

hmmm.. ? ;) :D:D :up:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/aqua7a.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade16.jpg

Gmanofsteel

03-15-2006, 10:15 PM

Some fans can be such drama queens over this stuff. The split in the fanbase really irritates me. As a long-time Superman fan, I really don't get some of the rampant Smallville hate, at all. "Raping the character"? "A selfish murderer who has no right to claim the Superman mantle"? Are you friggin' ****ting me? My that logic, Oscar Schindler was a shameless Nazi war-profiteer and Mahatma Ghandi was selfish prima donna with body image issues.

Anyway, felt like getting that off my chest, it just bugs me.
I'm rather suprised too. They can hate welling and the show and then praise the movie as if it is "perfect". Having a lois that looks too young isn't pefect, lois having a kid isn't perfect . . . . a bunch of hypocrites they are if they'll bash sv and praise SR as "the perfect movie that everyone should love it or they're not real superman fans".

The Caped Knight

03-15-2006, 11:30 PM

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2117/cksn2nu.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/aqua7a.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade16.jpg

I look forward to The Day Tom put's on The Red Cape & Blue tights . Then he will Official Be SUPERMAN:supes:

Milkman95

03-16-2006, 12:21 AM

I'm rather suprised too. They can hate welling and the show and then praise the movie as if it is "perfect". Having a lois that looks too young isn't pefect, lois having a kid isn't perfect . . . . a bunch of hypocrites they are if they'll bash sv and praise SR as "the perfect movie that everyone should love it or they're not real superman fans".

Welcome to the land of black kettles.

Same with Scooter's comment - the hate unfortunately goes both ways.......it doesn't matter to me because I like SV for the most part and I'm looking forward to the film very much, unlike most of this section over here...........:)

Scooter

03-16-2006, 12:26 AM

It goes both ways in my eyes. I don't see why, at the very least, some people can't embrace both. I mean, nothing so egregious is going on in either...

Milkman95

03-16-2006, 12:31 AM

It goes both ways in my eyes. I don't see why, at the very least, some people can't embrace both. I mean, nothing so egregious is going on in either...

Amen. It's not about the material or the character, it's about the actor. Entertainment at it's best over here on the SV boards...........

Scooter

03-16-2006, 12:35 AM

Huh?

Milkman95

03-16-2006, 12:40 AM

Huh?

What do you mean huh?

Once again it's not the character that's in question here, it's the actor portraying that said character that's the division.

Scooter

03-16-2006, 12:43 AM

Oh. Gotcha.

Milkman95

03-16-2006, 12:47 AM

Oh. Gotcha.

Well, it's just my opinion of course................:)

KalKai

03-16-2006, 01:12 AM

Amen. It's not about the material or the character, it's about the actor. Entertainment at it's best over here on the SV boards...........

You mean on the SR boards? Some of them all they do is discuss SV and Welling.. lol.

BR is never mentioned here, and SR.. rarely.

Scooter

03-16-2006, 01:13 AM

I wouldn't say never...

Milkman95

03-16-2006, 01:24 AM

I wouldn't say never...

Exactly. It's mentioned plenty of times, just not blatantly, which is fine. Like I said before, I find it entertaining.

KalKai

03-16-2006, 01:28 AM

I never do at least, but still.. not as much as THEY do.

Do a search on Welling on the SR boards..

Showing results 1 to 25 of 140..

in 140 threads.

Milkman95

03-16-2006, 01:32 AM

I never do at least, but still.. not as much as THEY do.

Do a search on Welling on the SR boards..

Showing results 1 to 25 of 140..

in 140 threads.

I don't know about that - comparing SV and SR would be like comparing a Division II college football team to the Superbowl XL Champions, the Pittsburgh Steelers - two very different situations. No reason to bring up either. I just brought it up over there because I thought I'd be a smart butt, but it's not mentioned as much as you think it is..........

Scooter

03-16-2006, 01:36 AM

Well, I think both forums get there licks in, but I have noticed it's a lot more overt and prevalent in the SR forum. But, I agree, there isn't much reason behind either case.

The Kid

03-16-2006, 01:52 AM

AgentPat

03-16-2006, 05:07 AM

...comparing SV and SR would be like comparing a Division II college football team to the Superbowl XL Champions, the Pittsburgh Steelers...:rolleyes:

http://www.bekijkhetmaar.net/TGR/uploads/ArtPicBig_2904_2712-200.jpg

Milkman95

03-16-2006, 07:49 AM

:rolleyes:

http://www.bekijkhetmaar.net/TGR/uploads/ArtPicBig_2904_2712-200.jpg

I knew I could count on you. The truth is, there's a huge gap between a WB/CW or whatever the network is television show and a $185m dollar film production. That's all I meant by it............

Milkman95

03-16-2006, 07:51 AM

I wish Welling were Superman in the new movie and it angered me a little when they cast some unknown guy with bushy eyebrows. But I'm not 10 anymore.

I'm going to be patient and wait to see if Routh does a great job or not. That's what I'm doing before saying he's no good and Welling should have done it instead. What really matters is if the movie isn't lame.

And Kal-el 8, a truly nice drawing there. "You're a god among insects. Never let anyone tell you different." ;)

Exactly the type of attitude every Superman fan should have, at least to me - let's hope the movie is good and Brandon is good in it. You are allowed to enjoy different versions of Superman you know............:)

RakuMon

03-16-2006, 08:16 AM

Anyway, how cool is it to see the pan of Kal-El before take-off spliced in with footage of other Supermen taking off to the classic John Williams music?

http://www.warnervideo.com/yearofsuperman/

Ultimate_Superman

03-16-2006, 10:22 AM

Some of it it's really debatable. George Reeve's (regardless of my or anyone else's opinion of it and it's star) made a huge impact. There's some ppl out there believe it or not that associate Superman with him and think he embodied the character better than Chris. I may disagree with it but it's true that these ppl exist.
And if you say Batman, there will be alot of ppl that will say Adam West. Still to this day. Even because talking seriously the only thing that held that show together was him. Because in the middle of such campyness and wearing that ridiculous suit, he played the character in a way that took itself really seriously. If he had done a different version of the character he could have had an even bigger impact perhaps. So I disagree that they are only tv shows or that SV will die after the show ends. Smallville and especially Tom Welling will remain in the public's memory for a long long time.and I dont disagree. As I said before I think SV is a great show and Welling is great and IMO would make a great Superman. I am not doubting that; what I am doubting is the impact people tend to think the show will have on everything. I think the show will fade like Lois and Clark, Superboy, and all the rest of the shows. Some tend to think it will be groundbreaking and will make a huge impact which I fail to see where. Thats all I am saying I could care less which is better SV or SR, Routh or Welling. I just want to know how people think SV will make a bigger impact and set it above anything else dealing with Superman.

AgentPat

03-16-2006, 10:34 AM

I knew I could count on you. The truth is, there's a huge gap between a WB/CW or whatever the network is television show and a $185m dollar film production.Yeah, 'cause big money going in = quality coming out, and no TV show can ever compete with a major motion picture in the heart's of the audience, hence the Superbowl analogy. Yeah, okay. Gotcha. :up:

For what it's worth, here's something I wrote a while ago. Nothing has changed...

For me, it doesn't matter whether he's seen on TV, film, or in comic books - Superman is as real as the individual wants him to be. Just because a film has a higher budget and reaches a larger audience, it doesn't necessarily mean its version of Superman is any more "official" or should be more appreciated or loved than the ones drawn in comic books or seen on TV (with or without the suit.)

Superman is a paradigm for hope, ideals, and being a good person. He's all about truth, principle and ethicality. He leads by example, and is led by his own integrity, honor and conviction. These concepts are easily lost in the mainstream audience. But Superman is also just a character. The actor brings him to life. It's the actor who you see, who you hear, and who you may or may not believe IS Superman. So if a whole new generation of fans have been introduced - or reintroduced as the case might be - to who Superman is and what he represents through the power of a TV show, then I believe it to be a legitimate argument for those fans so touched to view that show's icon as their generation's Superman - and prefer him as such. If he's not yours, so be it, we all don't have to agree. Twenty years from now, I'm sure there will be another Superman for folks to look up to, and he won't be Welling, Routh, Reeve or any other name we know of today. Superman is an enduring myth, and just like the character, he'll be around for a very very long time.

Anyhoo... All that said, I have my preference, and right now that just happens to be TW. Full stop.

RAMORE

03-16-2006, 12:45 PM

Hey guys i don't frequent this board too often but i thought this was too good not to share with yall who i thought would appreciate it. THIS IS NOT MY ART WORK it's done by a guy in the fan art section of the hype called Ohaire:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/D_Thompson/66244204246_873201.jpg

Ultimate_Superman

03-16-2006, 02:48 PM

Yeah, 'cause big money going in = quality coming out, and no TV show can ever compete with a major motion picture in the heart's of the audience, hence the Superbowl analogy. Yeah, okay. Gotcha. :up:

For what it's worth, here's something I wrote a while ago. Nothing has changed...

For me, it doesn't matter whether he's seen on TV, film, or in comic books - Superman is as real as the individual wants him to be. Just because a film has a higher budget and reaches a larger audience, it doesn't necessarily mean its version of Superman is any more "official" or should be more appreciated or loved than the ones drawn in comic books or seen on TV (with or without the suit.)

Superman is a paradigm for hope, ideals, and being a good person. He's all about truth, principle and ethicality. He leads by example, and is led by his own integrity, honor and conviction. These concepts are easily lost in the mainstream audience. But Superman is also just a character. The actor brings him to life. It's the actor who you see, who you hear, and who you may or may not believe IS Superman. So if a whole new generation of fans have been introduced - or reintroduced as the case might be - to who Superman is and what he represents through the power of a TV show, then I believe it to be a legitimate argument for those fans so touched to view that show's icon as their generation's Superman - and prefer him as such. If he's not yours, so be it, we all don't have to agree. Twenty years from now, I'm sure there will be another Superman for folks to look up to, and he won't be Welling, Routh, Reeve or any other name we know of today. Superman is an enduring myth, and just like the character, he'll be around for a very very long time.

Anyhoo... All that said, I have my preference, and right now that just happens to be TW. Full stop. Well said I just want to know why so many people think Smallvill will make a big impact

triplet

03-16-2006, 07:48 PM

Jeez, Tony... will you stop that?

:rolleyes:

It's too much work to get that translated...

BTW: you mispelled "Smallville"

:D

Ultimate_Superman

03-17-2006, 07:29 AM

Its not tomuch work for the people that dont have the font it shows up normal but for the people that do have it. You'll see me typing in Kryptonian oh and I fixed that miss spelling ;)

Serene

03-17-2006, 08:26 AM

Its not tomuch work for the people that dont have the font it shows up normal but for the people that do have it. You'll see me typing in Kryptonian oh and I fixed that miss spelling ;)

I should get that font. Anyone know where I can find it?

Ultimate_Superman

03-17-2006, 08:29 AM

I'll PM it to you.

Ultimate_Superman

03-17-2006, 08:38 AM

Done check your box

triplet

03-17-2006, 08:55 AM

Its not tomuch work for the people that dont have the font it shows up normal but for the people that do have it. You'll see me typing in Kryptonian oh and I fixed that miss spelling ;)

LOL!

Too funny... I guess you can tell who has the font and who doesn't...

:D

Ultimate_Superman

03-17-2006, 09:01 AM

LOL!

Too funny... I guess you can tell who has the font and who doesn't...

:D

see isn't it fun I just do it to have fun now and watch see people who do have try to figure out what I have said.

triplet

03-17-2006, 09:14 AM

see isn't it fun I just do it to have fun now and watch see people who do have try to figure out what I have said.

Too funny....

It is fun, now that I've figured out how to do it too.

The trick was in figuring that out and typing in kryptonian is interesting...

I'm amazed that I'm not having a ton of spelling errors

:D

Okay, I'm going to stop that now.

Ultimate_Superman

03-17-2006, 09:19 AM

I might for a little while. If you want to type it the other easy why is [FONT] only with the / before the last font ex [/img] that why you can see what you typed but when you post it; it will come out [FONT=Kryptonian]like this

AllThingsComic

03-17-2006, 09:24 AM

No disrespect to anyone, but what happened to all the cool drawings and manips here?

Ultimate_Superman

03-17-2006, 09:27 AM

Your right lets get back on topic folks.

triplet

03-17-2006, 09:46 AM

Your right lets get back on topic folks.

Yeah, I finally figured out about doing it in editing the post, but I had been doing it in Word... Dang, that was much harder.

:D

Ultimate_Superman

03-17-2006, 09:52 AM

Yeah, I finally figured out about doing it in editing the post, but I had been doing it in Word... Dang, that was much harder.

:DLOL!:D

Ultimate_Superman

03-17-2006, 10:35 AM

Brandon Routh from the BoxOffice.comBrandon Routh[/B]]"Superman should cross every boundary. There should be no enemies in the world of Superman fans. It's ridiculous. It stands against everything that Superman stands for." In other words, devotees unite, and stay tuned for another exciting episode of... "Superman"!
meaning can't both SV and SR fans get along.

triplet

03-17-2006, 10:43 AM

LOL!:D

LOL!

:D

\S/JcDc\S/

03-17-2006, 06:24 PM

Brandon Routh from the BoxOffice.com meaning can't both SV and SR fans get along.

Yeah. Not only is he great for the role, he is also a great spokesman/role model for Superman fans :D

Jedi Master

03-17-2006, 06:34 PM

The Caped Knight

03-17-2006, 07:59 PM

can't both SV and SR fans get along.

I think we can,

You know I've realized that this Welling vs. Routh thing is stupid, Their both playing the same Iconic Legend. (Tom) Is playing him At a younger age, Who will by then end of The series don The Red Cape & Blue Tights & (Brandon) Is Playing him at a Mature age who already is Wearing The Red Cape & Blue Tights . The point is Their The same preson.

So I'm official Done with this stupid War between SV & SR. (their both stories about my second favorite Superhero. And I'm going to enjoy them both.)

Jedi Master

03-17-2006, 09:43 PM

ahhh pplz jus WATCH the damn shows n movie..we should be happy there producing both forms of superman....so who cares if clark is gay or a lesbo..jus watch it...its ment for entertainment not WAR..geez

Kane

03-17-2006, 10:42 PM

I think we can,

You know I've realized that this Welling vs. Routh thing is stupid, Their both playing the same Iconic Legend. (Tom) Is playing him At a younger age, Who will by then end of The series don The Red Cape & Blue Tights & (Brandon) Is Playing him at a Mature age who already is Wearing The Red Cape & Blue Tights . The point is Their The same preson.

So I'm official Done with this stupid War between SV & SR. (their both stories about my second favorite Superhero. And I'm going to enjoy them both.)

Honestly man, I dont have a problem with it. There are good portrayals and bad ones throughout history.

Im aware of Tom's portrayal....but obviously I cant judge Brandon till SR.

After that, we'll be certain who is the more superior of the 2. It is fair grounds to compare since in addition to playing Superman, BR plays Clark Kent too (what TW plays).

KalKai

03-17-2006, 10:53 PM

How are you going to judge that?

BR will play the farmboy CK for 15-20 minutes or less I dunno, Tom played it for 5+ years now.

Kane

03-17-2006, 11:22 PM

But the mentality that 'farmboy clark' has in SR isnt much different from Superman's. This movie centers around BR's character. At this stage in Kal-El's life, farmboy Clark has evolved to simply being Superman...it doesnt really make a difference when hes dressed in normal clothes.

Obviously SV's Clark isnt quite there yet but I think overall there will be some middle common ground to make a judgement on. We'll probably only see TW portray Superman extremly briefly at the very end of SV so that also will be hard to compare to BR's Superman.

But still, Im sure theres some middle ground for comparison as long as you take into account the differences in the character at his stages of life.

Personally, Ive been waiting for a great live-action portrayal of Superman my entire life. Dean Cain was just awful to me and unfortunately thats all I got during my lifetime so far.

The Caped Knight

03-17-2006, 11:25 PM

Dean Cain was just awful to me and unfortunately thats all I got during my lifetime so far.

Dean was a great Clark Kent, He did a good job , As SUPERMAN I wasn't impressed.

Kane

03-17-2006, 11:27 PM

Hmm maybe. I judged him based on the character as a whole...

triplet

03-17-2006, 11:33 PM

Kane

03-17-2006, 11:34 PM

edit

AgentPat

03-18-2006, 09:55 AM

Jeez, can people stop talking about SR already?

There's a whole forum dedicated to it over yonder...
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=108

And, Oh... Look. There's even another one here:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=290

The possible places to talk about the enormous *ahem* talent *cough* of whathisname are endless and belong almost anywhere but here, which is the last time I checked : a smallville thread.Aye-freakin'-men! Thanks for getting us back on track, Trip!

Here's an old manip. I have no clue who the original artist was, so if anybody recognizes it, just shout. Tanks! :)

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-unknown4.jpg

Godfall was definitely "out" there LOL! If it was ever made into a film, I could see Michael Bay directing it. It's right up his alley. No, really, it is! :D

triplet

03-18-2006, 12:07 PM

Aye-freakin'-men! Thanks for getting us back on track, Trip!

Here's an old manip. I have no clue who the original artist was, so if anybody recognizes it, just shout. Tanks! :)

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-unknown4.jpg

Godfall was definitely "out" there LOL! If it was ever made into a film, I could see Michael Bay directing it. It's right up his alley. No, really, it is! :D

That's a great manip...

:up:

So nice to be back on topic, I kept coming in here thinking people were talking about Tom... *sigh*

I understand going off topic somewhat, it happens, but cripes... it was going on for pages it seemed.

BaK

03-18-2006, 01:50 PM

Godfall was definitely "out" there LOL! If it was ever made into a film, I could see Michael Bay directing it. It's right up his alley. No, really, it is! :D
some folks call it directing, i call it putting 'xplosions on screen, so no, ain't fan of that guy, but I did love Godfall big time :up:.

AgentPat

03-18-2006, 02:27 PM

some folks call it directing, i call it putting explosions on screen, so no, ain't fan of that guy, but I did love Godfall big time :up:.Bay's no Spieldberg, that's for sure, but he's an action director and I think he makes entertaining popcorn films. Even G&M admitted on the SV S1 DVD commentary track that exploding cars is one of their fortes. They like to blow stuff up too. LOL I think a film based on Godfall would have to be directed by somebody with a frenetic action style, which describes Bay perfectly. Would it work for a film? Mmm... hard to say. They'd have to downplay the "motorcross" flavor a bit for a general audience. If they kept it in the background - like Ahnuuld on the HD Fatboy in T2 - that might work. LOLOL

BaK

03-18-2006, 04:19 PM

I don't think a regular movie can translate the cool look of motors, outfits, and babes in Godfall..
It would probably take some weird "all digital"/"Matrix" crossover-style to translate it into anything close to original look and feel..

AgentPat

03-18-2006, 04:53 PM

The Caped Knight

03-24-2006, 08:41 AM

I think the Superman-based tv shows will always last the longest on top of those other horrible shows.

I don't know if that's true, Their's one Tv {Superhero} Series that has the longest run and that's POWER RANGERS {Even thought the series Jumped The shark Along time ago} The Power Ranger is an ongoing superhero franchise. It gone thought 13 different Genarations of Rangers and is currently on it's 14 series with a 15 series coming soon.

The total episodes in The Power Ranger franchise is 582 {so far}

smsvmos

03-29-2006, 08:53 AM

Bump

Ultimate_Superman

04-06-2006, 10:52 AM

bump

Kane

04-06-2006, 01:32 PM

I don't know if that's true, Their's one Tv {Superhero} Series that has the longest run and that's POWER RANGERS {Even thought the series Jumped The shark Along time ago} The Power Ranger is an ongoing superhero franchise. It gone thought 13 different Genarations of Rangers and is currently on it's 14 series with a 15 series coming soon.

The total episodes in The Power Ranger franchise is 582 {so far}

Hmmm PR has lasted because Disney turned it into a mindless commercial for toys (and they change the cast and premise every year). Thats like having Welling as Superboy in one season, Bale as Batman in another, Brandon as Superman in another, etc..

PR seems to be the only show of its kind but if they brought KamenRider to the states, holy hell thatd be huge.

LL2K2

04-06-2006, 03:10 PM

PR seems to be the only show of its kind but if they brought KamenRider to the states, holy hell thatd be huge.

They already did...he was called Masked Rider. ;) And interestingly enough, he was introduced in a 1995 episode of Power Rangers.

GothicPowerMix1

04-06-2006, 03:22 PM

If they brought KamenRider to the states, holy hell thatd be huge.

That happened in the 90s man :o He had a Show already here & like LL said he was first introduced in a Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Episode

Kane

04-06-2006, 03:53 PM

Erg that was like over 10 years ago using an old gen rider. If a network picks up the modern KR series and adapts it close to the Japanese version, it'd be sic.

The 555 series is my personal fave. Its pretty intense, x-men style story.

http://www.modxtoy.com/pic/vbanner_faiz.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/anime5/kamenrider555/

http://www.kicks-hobby.com/components/com_phpshop/shop_image/product/9729484f9697951cb5a129220ada3de5.jpg

http://www.japanesetoylink.com/Bandai/Sci-Fi/images/S.I.C/BAN-SIC-KR024img2.jpg

The bike scenes are mods are pretty insane.

Serene

04-07-2006, 02:16 AM

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/6163/tw135a6eu.jpg

avidreader

04-07-2006, 10:08 AM

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/6163/tw135a6eu.jpg

Cool Serene! :up: :)

I love how they often have his face in half shadow depicting the two persona, secret identity thing.

LL2K2

04-07-2006, 06:01 PM

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/6163/tw135a6eu.jpg

You know, that's a manip waiting to happen...:)

AgentPat

04-08-2006, 11:58 AM

PhotoJones

04-08-2006, 12:00 PM

http://img201.exs.cx/img201/1065/art171763tw.jpg

THE REAL SUPERMAN

that's awesome man.

riotgirl77

04-09-2006, 02:57 AM

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/6163/tw135a6eu.jpg

you do that??? if so :up: :up: :up:

Serene

04-09-2006, 08:21 PM

From Neilzy over at BT's...

(Click thumbnail)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Darth_Neilzy/poster2thumb.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Darth_Neilzy/poster2.jpg)

And the first version...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Darth_Neilzy/shirt-rip.jpg

Very nice! :up:

WOW! Those are reeeally nice. :up:

you do that??? if so
Thanks. :)
I decided to stop being so lazy and to go ahead and start learning how to use the Photoshop program I have. I'm really loving it so far. Tutorials are a wonderful thing.

blksuperman2

04-10-2006, 07:01 PM

Hate to steal someones idea, but here's a picture I started drawing as soon as I saw the new photos. I think if Clark is ever gonna don the suit he'd be wearing his red jacket instead of a suit and tie. Hope ya like it.

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/857/1603Tom_as_Superman.jpg

Amm-arD

04-10-2006, 07:14 PM

that is wkdd, but the 'S' should be a bit bigger me thinks

blksuperman2

04-10-2006, 08:28 PM

Thanks Amm-ard, but how much bigger do you think it should be?

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/857/1603Tom_as_Superman2.jpg

Kane

04-10-2006, 08:54 PM

That looks too much like him. Good work on it.

Serene

04-10-2006, 09:23 PM

Thanks Amm-ard, but how much bigger do you think it should be?

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/857/1603Tom_as_Superman2.jpg

Breathtaking. I am so jealous of the talent some of you guys have. And I'm really glad you share it with us. :up:

Amm-arD

04-11-2006, 04:32 AM

infact now uve coloured it in the S is perfect! Good stuff

Amm-arD

04-11-2006, 04:33 AM

and btw did u just draw this without a picture infront of u? ( i mean drawing his costume?) cos if u did that is amazing

rumpuso

04-11-2006, 05:36 AM

blksuperman2

04-11-2006, 08:34 AM

and btw did u just draw this without a picture infront of u? ( i mean drawing his costume?) cos if u did that is amazing

No I'm not that talented. I used the headshot of Tom as reference, then used an image of Chris Reeve revealing the :supes:. But thanks you all for the compliments. I'll update you with more as I'm just getting started with it.

You can view some other stuff I'm working on here http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223159

Be warned though, TW is Superboy in alot of pictures.

avidreader

04-11-2006, 09:26 AM

Thanks Amm-ard, but how much bigger do you think it should be?

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/857/1603Tom_as_Superman2.jpg

That is totally frickin awesome! :up: Amazing talent. :)

The Caped Knight

04-11-2006, 09:43 AM

Thanks Amm-ard, but how much bigger do you think it should be?

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/857/1603Tom_as_Superman2.jpg

:supes: :up: :up:

Serene

04-11-2006, 10:26 AM

This is by mike as posted on the Planet. I think it's just beautiful.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5192/metropolisclark3ne.png

The Caped Knight

04-11-2006, 10:31 AM

This is by mike as posted on the Planet. I think it's just beautiful.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5192/metropolisclark3ne.png

It's good, Only thing wrong is SUPERMAN need's The S curl in his hair . Then it would be Prefect .

Ultimate_Superman

04-11-2006, 10:33 AM

This is by mike as posted on the Planet. I think it's just beautiful.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5192/metropolisclark3ne.pngI like it but Wellings head in that picture looks small of Rouths body (Clark picture)

KikiDee

04-11-2006, 02:48 PM

This is by mike as posted on the Planet. I think it's just beautiful.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5192/metropolisclark3ne.png

That is beautiful......I'm can't stop staring at it. This just makes me sad.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon9.gif

Zorex

04-11-2006, 02:56 PM

This is by mike as posted on the Planet. I think it's just beautiful.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5192/metropolisclark3ne.png
Stunning. The proportions seem ever so slightly weird, but still very very beautiful. I hope that, at the end of the series, when they at last get to the [likely brief] suit donning, they show Welling with a bit more of a Superman-ly haircut. One of the things I really like about mike's manip here is that it actually gives him a hair styling different than the one he wears on SV, which, yknow, works for young Clark, but just doesn't work for Superman.

Kane

04-11-2006, 04:25 PM

That is beautiful......I'm can't stop staring at it. This just makes me sad.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon9.gif

Why? :confused:

Kane

04-11-2006, 04:27 PM

Stunning. The proportions seem ever so slightly weird, but still very very beautiful. I hope that, at the end of the series, when they at last get to the [likely brief] suit donning, they show Welling with a bit more of a Superman-ly haircut. One of the things I really like about mike's manip here is that it actually gives him a hair styling different than the one he wears on SV, which, yknow, works for young Clark, but just doesn't work for Superman.

Thats the thing, I dont think Superman can cut his hair. It isnt even supposed to grow under the Sun. It only grew once (when he was dead in the 90s) but that had something to do with Eradicator and where his body was placed.

Im not exactly sure how his mullet disapeared though, maybe Superboy's punches retconned it :confused:

blksuperman2

04-11-2006, 09:04 PM

Thanks for all the feedback y'all. Here's an update.
http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/1603Tom_as_Superman3.jpg

and Kane I think that Wonder Woman with all her magic swords and daggers could chop Supes hair for him. What are friends for?

Amm-arD

04-12-2006, 12:29 PM

That is damn brilliant man! The updates are v good

Ultimate_Superman

04-12-2006, 01:12 PM

superboy13

04-25-2006, 12:01 PM

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9733/supersmallville2copy5ro.jpg

Brainiac 8

04-25-2006, 12:03 PM

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9733/supersmallville2copy5ro.jpg

I like this one Superboy....Things to come.:up: :D

\S/JcDc\S/

04-26-2006, 10:11 PM

His face just doesn't work for the Daily Planet Clark Kent. Ehh... On the farm Clark we know, and he looks alright in some Superman manips... BUT his Metropolis DP Clark? AH :down

user123456789

04-26-2006, 10:44 PM

His face just doesn't work for the Daily Planet Clark Kent. Ehh... On the farm Clark we know, and he looks alright in some Superman manips... BUT his Metropolis DP Clark? AH :down

werd... his face in that manip looks off.

KalKai

04-27-2006, 03:18 AM

AgentPat

04-27-2006, 05:06 AM

Manips just give you an idea, nobody here have ever seen Welling in a Superman suit or as Metropolis Clark Kent, so nobody can say anything. It's all about paying attention to the details, something that you can't do in manips, cause it'll NEVER look right, or perfect.Agreed.

No offense to any of the fabulous artists here and at other sites, but manips are just that. We won't be able to fully appreciate Welling's Metropolis Clark (complete with glasses) and his Superman (in suit) until they dress the actor up in the appropriate wardrobe and make-up for the scene(s). I already know *I* won't be disappointed, and judging from what people like the Warner's rep Zing met have said, I'm sure other fans will be quite happy too. We just have to be patient; it won't be THAT long of a wait. :)

eXperiment

04-27-2006, 05:35 AM

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9733/supersmallville2copy5ro.jpg

Perfect job superboy.

eXperiment

04-27-2006, 05:36 AM

This is by mike as posted on the Planet. I think it's just beautiful.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5192/metropolisclark3ne.png

Love the costume and everything about this pic.

eXperiment

04-27-2006, 08:14 PM

I didn't know where else to post this: http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mercy2copy5xi.jpg

I'll keep editing it until its the way I like it.

Jedi Master

04-27-2006, 09:19 PM

I didn't know where else to post this: http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mercy2copy5xi.jpg

I'll keep editing it until its the way I like it.

holy crap, thas hotttt!

Logan Howlett

04-28-2006, 05:57 AM

I love this thread! Keep it up!

blksuperman2

04-28-2006, 06:01 AM

I didn't know where else to post this: http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mercy2copy5xi.jpg

I'll keep editing it until its the way I like it.

Outstanding:up:

Bruce_Wayne29

04-28-2006, 12:15 PM

I already know *I* won't be disappointed, and judging from what people like the Warner's rep Zing met have said, I'm sure other fans will be quite happy too.

What did they say ?

AgentPat

04-28-2006, 12:31 PM

What did they say ?Well, Zing can elaborate, but the exact quote was, "he looked so much like Reeve in his screen tests it was scary." Reeve is still the benchmark, so it doesn't surprise me that the rep used him as a comparison. That quote is also about two years old, so I'd love to hear what people would say now...

:p ;) :D

Ultimate_Superman

04-28-2006, 12:34 PM

well my only thing is people get their hopes up but alot can change over the course of the next 2 seasons with alot of other stuff going on. Things may change and not because G&M want them too either.

eXperiment

04-28-2006, 01:54 PM

holy crap, thas hotttt!

Thanks. :)

eXperiment

04-28-2006, 01:55 PM

Outstanding:up:

Thanks alot

eXperiment

04-28-2006, 02:00 PM

Here is my manip edited:

http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mercy2copy8aq.jpg

I think it looks alot better.

rumpuso

04-28-2006, 02:04 PM

Here is my manip edited:

http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mercy2copy8aq.jpg

I think it looks alot better.
This is truly the most gorgeous manip.

Logan Howlett

04-28-2006, 02:53 PM

Ok, can anyone make a manipof Welling weraing the Ultimate costume?

http://www.zonanegativa.com/imagen/0215.jpg

Ultimate_Superman

04-28-2006, 03:57 PM

Theres already a few of them just go through the pages.

Logan Howlett

04-28-2006, 09:43 PM

I can't find any. :(

user123456789

04-29-2006, 01:16 AM

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/fan-art/smallville_super.jpg

I've gotta post this again. Amazing.

The Caped Knight

04-29-2006, 02:16 AM

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/fan-art/smallville_super.jpg

I've gotta post this again. Amazing.

It's the best one .

Bruce_Wayne29

04-29-2006, 11:11 AM

Well, Zing can elaborate, but the exact quote was, "he looked so much like Reeve in his screen tests it was scary." Reeve is still the benchmark, so it doesn't surprise me that the rep used him as a comparison. That quote is also about two years old, so I'd love to hear what people would say now...

:p ;) :D

Oh yeah, I remember that quote. I think that was from the McG screentest...
Of course he's still the benchmark, that's why the other guy is being made to look like him, especially as Clark.

Whiteflag

04-29-2006, 07:28 PM

Beautiful manips! Great job! :up:

The Kid

05-04-2006, 09:41 AM

Tom welling should have just played superman.

that is all. carry on.

smsvmos

05-04-2006, 09:58 AM

Tom welling should have just played superman.

that is all. carry on.

Your Damn right

But not in this Campy movie

AgentPat

05-04-2006, 10:13 AM

^ Lol

user123456789

05-04-2006, 10:31 AM

interesting at ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Milkman95

05-04-2006, 10:38 AM

Your Damn right

But not in this Campy movie

But you'd prefer him in a cheap made for TV movie? Hilarious.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Milkman95

05-04-2006, 10:43 AM

Tom welling should have just played superman.

that is all. carry on.

Nah, the messed up story SV brings wouldn't lend itself to a film - too many holes and changes. If it would be possible to have Tom in the lead without any connection to SV (which is impossible), that would have been good, because I do like him..........

*Waits for the slamming to begin*................:)

Kane

05-04-2006, 10:58 AM

Milkman. Why are you taking Wesyeed's posts seriously?...

Cmon man.

Hes starting to make Muscles4Supes look like a Nobel Prize winner in comparison.

Ultimate_Superman

05-04-2006, 11:04 AM

LOL at all of this. Thats whats I dont get people call the movie campy and all this crap but what would you say of the SV story lines thats the pot calling the kettle black.

Milkman95

05-04-2006, 11:48 AM

Milkman. Why are you taking Wesyeed's posts seriously?...

Cmon man.

Hes starting to make Muscles4Supes look like a Nobel Prize winner in comparison.

True, but in my book, David33 owns them all. His opinion holds about as much water here as a strainer.

The Kid

05-04-2006, 11:48 AM

Nah, the messed up story SV brings wouldn't lend itself to a film - too many holes and changes. If it would be possible to have Tom in the lead without any connection to SV (which is impossible), that would have been good, because I do like him..........

*Waits for the slamming to begin*................:)

I don't get it. what holes? Everything would have been swell, milky. :supes:

Milkman95

05-04-2006, 11:49 AM

I think it would have been swell despite all that text you wrote, milky. :supes:

To each their own...........

Milkman95

05-04-2006, 11:52 AM

I don't get it. what holes? Everything would have been swell, milky. :supes:

What holes? You're kidding, right? There's too many to list actually..........

The Kid

05-04-2006, 11:53 AM

Give it a try

edit. extra letter

Zing79

05-04-2006, 11:59 AM

LOL at all of this. Thats whats I dont get people call the movie campy and all this crap but what would you say of the SV story lines thats the pot calling the kettle black.
I don't know about that...SV isn't all that campy. It's got some real plot holes that come up from time to time, or over reliance on FOTW's, but I find it hard to believe that if you watched its 5 seasons you'd come away saying it was camp.

Ultimate_Superman

05-04-2006, 12:02 PM

but isn't it hard to say the same thing over a movie people never seen? You can point out alot of campy moments in SV I don't because hey thats part of what makes the show great IMO but there are alot of stuff there. Hell the whole Clark/Lana thing is one big campy moment as well as Clark/Chloe or Clark/Lex (proved when Lex gave Clark Batman's speech from DKR or DKSA when him and Clark were fighting).

Kane

05-04-2006, 12:29 PM

I don't know about that...SV isn't all that campy. It's got some real plot holes that come up from time to time, or over reliance on FOTW's, but I find it hard to believe that if you watched its 5 seasons you'd come away saying it was camp.

The whole 'crossing-over' thing in Void along with elements in numerous other episodes were pure camp to me.

Hypnotic; Lex: "Clark, youre hypnotized... how else would you have super strength"... :confused:

Stuff like that. Happens all the time.

AgentPat

05-04-2006, 12:33 PM

But you'd prefer him in a cheap made for TV movie? A SV film, regardless of the medium, wouldn't be "cheap."
Big budgets don't guarantee quality OR audience satisfaction.
This is a manip thread. If folks would like to discuss a potential SV film, may I suggest starting a thread for one? I don't think we have a thread for that topic, believe it or not.

Milkman95

05-04-2006, 01:59 PM

A SV film, regardless of the medium, wouldn't be "cheap."
Big budgets don't guarantee quality OR audience satisfaction.
This is a manip thread. If folks would like to discuss a potential SV film, may I suggest starting a thread for one? I don't think we have a thread for that topic, believe it or not.

You're right, "cheap" was the wrong word. What's a perfect word for the difference in the quality of the Fantastic Four film and the Batman Begins film? I'm obviously using SV as the FF in this case. When you find that word for it, that's what I meant............:)

Zing79

05-04-2006, 03:01 PM

The whole 'crossing-over' thing in Void along with elements in numerous other episodes were pure camp to me.

Hypnotic; Lex: "Clark, youre hypnotized... how else would you have super strength"... :confused:

Stuff like that. Happens all the time.
There's a slight diference between camp, and nonsensical.
Nonsensical: Hypnotic; Lex: "Clark, you’re hypnotized... how else would you have super strength"...
Camp: (just an example ;))carrying around a row of wigs when you're a villain

Campy Smallville is not. It may make no sense sometimes with its logic, but its serious in most things it does, and tries to do.

The Incredible Hulk

05-04-2006, 03:03 PM

LOL @ people who dont the definition of "campy"

Kane

05-04-2006, 03:15 PM

There's a slight diference between camp, and nonsensical.
Nonsensical: Hypnotic; Lex: "Clark, you’re hypnotized... how else would you have super strength"...
Camp: (just an example ;))carrying around a row of wigs when you're a villain

Campy Smallville is not. It may make no sense sometimes with its logic, but its serious in most things it does, and tries to do.

Umm and Kryptonite plastic surgery and Cheerleaders creating Kryptonite love potion isnt camp? Aside from wigs, what about 'villians' who are exchange students with really bad foreign accents. ;) What about evil sororiety vampires, one of whom named Buffy?

Smallville is loaded with campiness.

AgentPat

05-04-2006, 04:01 PM

You're right, "cheap" was the wrong word. What's a perfect word for the difference in the quality of the Fantastic Four film and the Batman Begins film? I'm obviously using SV as the FF in this case. When you find that word for it, that's what I meant............:)How 'bout non sequitur?

You're comparing F4 to BB. I didn't even SEE F4. Why? 'Cause nothing about the story, characters, trailer - you name it - interested me. By contrast, not only do I *like* Batman as a character, but Christian Bale is on FIRE! I saw BB three times in the theater and bought the DVD the day it streeted. And if you're going to compare characters, at least separate your species. Put Superman and Batman in one box, and F4 and... oh, I dunno... X-Men maybe, can go in another box.

But these comparisons are irrelevant, not to mention just dumb. They're all based on subjective opinions and hold no validity outside of individual preference. There are Batman fans who prefer Burton's version to Nolan's. Imagine that? By the same token, there will be fans who prefer SV's version of Superman over Singer's, regardless of how "campy" either production might seem to naysayers, or how much production coin is spent bringing the character to life in the hearts of fans.

This discussion is moot, not to mention off topic for this thread...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/ross.jpg

^ Note the sig! :mad: :p

Logan Howlett

05-04-2006, 04:03 PM

Ah men, now lets get back to the manips!

Milkman95

05-04-2006, 07:29 PM

How 'bout non sequitur?

You're comparing F4 to BB. I didn't even SEE F4. Why? 'Cause nothing about the story, characters, trailer - you name it - interested me. By contrast, not only do I *like* Batman as a character, but Christian Bale is on FIRE! I saw BB three times in the theater and bought the DVD the day it streeted. And if you're going to compare characters, at least separate your species. Put Superman and Batman in one box, and F4 and... oh, I dunno... X-Men maybe, can go in another box.

But these comparisons are irrelevant, not to mention just dumb. They're all based on subjective opinions and hold no validity outside of individual preference. There are Batman fans who prefer Burton's version to Nolan's. Imagine that? By the same token, there will be fans who prefer SV's version of Superman over Singer's, regardless of how "campy" either production might seem to naysayers, or how much production coin is spent bringing the character to life in the hearts of fans.

This discussion is moot, not to mention off topic for this thread...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/ross.jpg

^ Note the sig! :mad: :p

That's a great picture, always liked that one. I agree, in the end, it's all what you like.........Even though I'm critical of SV, I happen to like TW, and so far, like what I see from BR as well - it's called having an open mind, which many don't have around these parts when it comes to the other production............

Zing79

05-04-2006, 07:49 PM

Umm and Kryptonite plastic surgery and Cheerleaders creating Kryptonite love potion isnt camp? Aside from wigs, what about 'villians' who are exchange students with really bad foreign accents. ;) What about evil sororiety vampires, one of whom named Buffy?

Smallville is loaded with campiness.
Instead of watching you call out every ep from the last 5 years that had anything that wasn't serious, why don't I just point out (even though not everything you've mentioned is camp) that so far you've nailed down 2% of Smallville as being camp. There's over 100 hrs of footage in the can, and you're trying to extrapolate what little camp has been in this show into a pattern that exists for the entire show. It isn’t there.

Don't try and sink this ship just because people are desperately bailing water at the ship on yonder at the moment. As I’ve said many times: pulling this show down, does not push that movie up.

AgentPat

05-04-2006, 09:17 PM

I happen to like TW, and so far, like what I see from BR as wellPeachy. Hey, I like TW too. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/yes.gif LOL

I don't share your opinion on the other guy though, and it's based on the same information (photos, trailers, etc.) that you have. Different strokes. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/shrug.gif

it's called having an open mind...Mmm.... No. It's called having a choice in how I prefer to be entertained. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif

I'm still gonna see the film - the cinemaphotography and some of the effects look great, and Spacey looks like he's gonna chew up the scenery. But Routh? Meh. I've seen and heard enough to know I don't like him (in character - I'm sure he's a very nice man IRL.) Too bad Warners couldn't have kept him a complete secret until the film unspooled. I mean, nothing, nada, NO pictures, names, or even a trailer. Now THAT would have guaranteed an "open mind." Ah vell. Such is life.

Too bad they couldn't have waited, but even Capt. E.J. Smith was hell bent on breaking a silly record...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/iceberg.jpg

Sorry, couldn't resist.:up: :D

Serene

05-04-2006, 09:21 PM

As I’ve said many times: pulling this show down, does not push that movie up.

Indeed.
Nicely put, Zing. :up:

KikiDee

05-04-2006, 09:57 PM

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/iceberg.jpg

:up: :D

Love this! :up: :up: Pat I'll let you speak for me anyday. You're my Denny Crain.

Kane

05-04-2006, 10:00 PM

Instead of watching you call out every ep from the last 5 years that had anything that wasn't serious, why don't I just point out (even though not everything you've mentioned is camp) that so far you've nailed down 2% of Smallville as being camp. There's over 100 hrs of footage in the can, and you're trying to extrapolate what little camp has been in this show into a pattern that exists for the entire show. It isn’t there.

Mmm this has nothing to do with the movie (I was never a fan of the movie and I always said I'm undecided on it till I see it). I could go on with lots and lots of more examples of campy elements in it; I only mentioned a few on purpose in the previous post to avoid upseting people, but I'll just be retreading into stuff Ive already mentioned a billion times on here. There is a camp pattern through, just follow the common plot devices of the 'Kryptonite plot device of many different uses' and the freaks of the week.

The show is more enjoyable when you dont take it seriously and dont try to make sense of alot of the details, thats what I've learned... and thats why I enjoy it now.

AgentPat

05-05-2006, 04:56 AM

Love this! :up: :up: Pat I'll let you speak for me anyday.Anytime, Kiki. :D

You're my Denny Crain.http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/spock.gif

Beam me up, Scotty!

LOL ;)

Milkman95

05-05-2006, 10:32 AM

Milkman95

05-05-2006, 10:40 AM

Peachy. Hey, I like TW too. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/yes.gif LOL

I don't share your opinion on the other guy though, and it's based on the same information (photos, trailers, etc.) that you have. Different strokes. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/shrug.gif

Well, in all fairness, you haven't SEEN the other guy yet. 110 episodes or so compared to a few seconds here and there isn't a fair comparison. The way I see it, and I could be wrong, you're more into the actor's looks (As stated about Bale as well in BB) than the character itself, but to each their own.

Mmm.... No. It's called having a choice in how I prefer to be entertained. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif

Well, technically, you really can't make a choice yet since there isn't one to be made - SR is released on June 30th...:)

I'm still gonna see the film - the cinemaphotography and some of the effects look great, and Spacey looks like he's gonna chew up the scenery. But Routh? Meh. I've seen and heard enough to know I don't like him (in character - I'm sure he's a very nice man IRL.) Too bad Warners couldn't have kept him a complete secret until the film unspooled. I mean, nothing, nada, NO pictures, names, or even a trailer. Now THAT would have guaranteed an "open mind." Ah vell. Such is life.

Well, I don't think we've seen enough to warrant ANY type of opinion of BR yet - only superficial one's or biased one's at this point..........You're right about different strokes though, because I see more of Superman in my avatar than I do in TW, but that's just me.

Too bad they couldn't have waited, but even Capt. E.J. Smith was hell bent on breaking a silly record...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/iceberg.jpg

:up: :D

Nice pic.............

Kane

05-05-2006, 10:43 AM

Doesnt that pic also imply that the fanbase is dragging the Smallville iceberg down? :p

AgentPat

05-05-2006, 10:56 AM

Well, in all fairness, you haven't SEEN the other guy yet. 110 episodes or so compared to a few seconds here and there isn't a fair comparison.I'm not comparing them. You said, and I quote, "(I) like what I see from BR as well." But I don't. You're being just as superficial as me; you even pointed out the look of your avatar.

The way I see it, and I could be wrong, you're more into the actor's looks (As stated about Bale as well in BB) than the character itself, but to each their own.Well duh! Again, that's really all YOU'VE had to go on too, right?

Lets cut to the chase, Milkman, shall we? I don't find him attractive, and I think Superman should be attractive. VERY attractive. I also think Superman should have other physical qualities that I don't see in Routh that I DO see in Welling. In spades. As far as performance, I'd be willing to bet Al Pachino could act circles around Routh *and* Welling, but that doesn't mean I'd want him to play Superman. :p Film is a VERY visual form of entertainment, and when it comes to Superman, I want to be VERY entertained. :D

Nice pic.............Hey, thanks! I had a moment of inspiration. You inspire me, doncha know? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/kiss.gif

user123456789

05-05-2006, 11:01 AM

Lets cut to the chase, Milkman, shall we? I don't find him attractive, and I think Superman should be attractive. VERY attractive.

To me Supes = plain guy.

Now, Bruce Wayne... :up:

Zing79

05-05-2006, 11:42 AM

Or the other way around my kind sir.........:)
I don't need to sink that ship (and I don't recall stating an actual opinion on said other ship). Plus, you guys are already bailing water, and doing a fine enough job of it on your own. LOL

Bruce_Wayne29

05-05-2006, 12:16 PM

I saw the trailer yesterday and liked it mostly because of the effects (some of them anyway), the music (to pump up fans there's nothing better than that theme) and Spacey just like I thought. I was actually surprised by Langella which in the bit I saw didn't sound as bad as I thought. I was impressed by the actress doing Martha. Routh and Bosworth didn't impressed me one bit. The suit still looks horrible, maybe the only exception seems to be the plain sequence in which it appears to have lighter colors.
The end bit with it's a bird, plane - you wanted to see me ? was funny, I liked that one. But Spacey he's gonna own that movie, every bit he was in, he ruled. There was even a scene in which he reminded me alot of Rosenbaum, which is not totally a surprise since he said he was gonna study Rosey's performance...
Overall I'm sure it will be a competent product well directed and visually stunning but to me all that doesn't matter if I don't believe in the guy playing Superman and no offense to Routh because from what I read, he's a great, humble and respectful guy but he just doesn't make me believe.

AgentPat

05-05-2006, 12:29 PM

To me Supes = plain guy.

Now, Bruce Wayne... :up:In "theory," Clark Kent is the plain guy. Superman is the looker. Just ask Lois. Heh. As per usual though, SV's version of Kal-El is... unique! ;)

Bruce Wayne is the playboy billionaire, so he's quite the handsome and very eligible bachelor kinda guy. Batman... well, you never even see his face, so nobody knows what he really looks like.

Can we get some manips going here? Please? LOLOLOL

Kane

05-05-2006, 02:49 PM

Looks are in the eyes of the beholder. Im sure theres some that find Brandon attractive. Ive met plenty of very good looking girls (by the standards of most guys) who dont find Tom Welling attractive at all and are all about Micheal Rosenbaum; hes the only reason they'd sit through the show.

So yea, superficiality about this stuff is kinda pathetic.

Ultimate_Superman

05-05-2006, 02:53 PM

Lets cut to the chase, Milkman, shall we? I don't find him attractive, and I think Superman should be attractive. VERY attractive. I also think Superman should have other physical qualities that I don't see in Routh that I DO see in Welling. In spades. As far as performance, I'd be willing to bet Al Pachino could act circles around Routh *and* Welling, but that doesn't mean I'd want him to play Superman. :p Film is a VERY visual form of entertainment, and when it comes to Superman, I want to be VERY entertained. :D

I think People mag disagrees with you

Serene

05-05-2006, 03:01 PM

I think People mag disagrees with you
Oh please. Those lists are SO controlled by publicists and $$$.

Do you honestly think that BR would have even a teensy sliver of a chance of making that kind of a list if he wasn't starring in a humungo movie that was coming out soon? Sure.

I'm not saying that just to slam BR either (although, he truly isn't my cuppa tea in the looks dept. I'm sure he's a nice enough guy).

Kane

05-05-2006, 03:03 PM

I think he may have a little asian ancestry in him?

RakuMon

05-05-2006, 03:25 PM

I think he may have a little asian ancestry in him?
Errr.... No.

Ultimate_Superman

05-05-2006, 03:28 PM

Isn't TW mixed with something though or am I thinking of Cain.

AgentPat

05-05-2006, 03:30 PM

You're thinking of Cain.

Can we all move on now? Seriously. This is a manip thread.

Kane

05-05-2006, 03:32 PM

Isn't TW mixed with something though or am I thinking of Cain.

Hes part native Indian I think.

Cain is part asian.

I heard a long time ago, around 2004, Brandon had some asian in him but I dont know if that report was legitimate.

Ultimate_Superman

05-05-2006, 03:34 PM

If TW is part Native American then I think that cave angle works pretty well then.

AgentPat

05-05-2006, 03:35 PM

If TW is part Native American then I think that cave angle works pretty well then.WTF?

Kane

05-05-2006, 03:39 PM

If TW is part Native American then I think that cave angle works pretty well then.

Well it ties into the actor's ancestry...obviously not the character's.......who is an alien.

Ultimate_Superman

05-05-2006, 03:40 PM

Ultimate_Superman

05-05-2006, 03:41 PM

Well it ties into the actor's ancestry...obviously not the character's.......who is an alien.exactly

AgentPat

05-05-2006, 04:12 PM

meaning the whole for telling of Superman in the caves on SV it works well because he is part Native American and even though they can use it as Superman is part that it works because TW is part that which I think could be used as like a little backround info on TW history for the people(fans) who look at him as SupermanYeah, 'cause the fact that TW's grandparent was Native American makes it easier for fans to see him as the fictional alien character that he plays on a TV show.

Are you for real? My word! Dig some more holes why doncha and give us some words of wisdom about Lana and how Kreuk's heritage helped fans in episodes like Sacred. :rolleyes:

thebigtree95

05-05-2006, 04:25 PM

something i made awhile back

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/thebigtree95/Smallville/Banners/WorldFlight.jpg

Milkman95

05-05-2006, 09:08 PM

I'm not comparing them. You said, and I quote, "(I) like what I see from BR as well." But I don't. You're being just as superficial as me; you even pointed out the look of your avatar.

Yes you are. In my opinion, you're not even giving BR a chance. You gave skinny Welling a chance in Season One, why not give the same courtesy to BR?

Well duh! Again, that's really all YOU'VE had to go on too, right?

No, I've seen plenty of TW. Even though he's good, we'll never know if he could actually pull off the THREE roles this part requires - he plays it the same all the time in the show.

Lets cut to the chase, Milkman, shall we? I don't find him attractive, and I think Superman should be attractive. VERY attractive. I also think Superman should have other physical qualities that I don't see in Routh that I DO see in Welling. In spades. As far as performance, I'd be willing to bet Al Pachino could act circles around Routh *and* Welling, but that doesn't mean I'd want him to play Superman. :p Film is a VERY visual form of entertainment, and when it comes to Superman, I want to be VERY entertained. :D

Thank you - it is ALL about looks to you. Al Pacino is going a bit far, so that's an awful analogy. Yes, it's visual, and I'd have to say that BR is attractive enough to carry the role.........

Hey, thanks! I had a moment of inspiration. You inspire me, doncha know? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/kiss.gif

Good - I'm tired of trying to inspire my sales team at work, at least my attitude is working somewhere.........:)

MJZ

05-05-2006, 10:12 PM

Yes, it's visual, and I'd have to say that BR is attractive enough to carry the role.........

My oh my. :O

Serene

05-05-2006, 10:31 PM

something i made awhile back

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/thebigtree95/Smallville/Banners/WorldFlight.jpg
Nice bigtree. :up:

Digging the blues..

The Incredible Hulk

05-05-2006, 10:40 PM

I heard a long time ago, around 2004, Brandon had some asian in him .

Maybe his boyfriend at the time was Asian, and thats what they meant? :p

Kane

05-05-2006, 10:46 PM

I dont think his girlfriend at the time would have been to happy with that. On a side note; his new girlfriend is a vast improvement over her.

But no, the article was refering to asian ancestry as I pointed out in the earlier post.

MJZ

05-05-2006, 11:06 PM

Maybe his boyfriend at the time was Asian, and thats what they meant? :p

LOL, nice. :up: :D

The Incredible Hulk

05-05-2006, 11:11 PM

Kane

05-05-2006, 11:14 PM

:rolleyes: Plz. He was dating another girl prior to being casted for Returns.

Another PR conspiricy I assume?

MJZ

05-05-2006, 11:17 PM

yeah it's amazing who a good PR firm can set you up with these days....

Oh I have my suspicions too but I get in enough hot water over all this stuff.

Funny Hulk, being naughty outside of "work" eh? :)

I won't tell J, you'll be up for your flight wings soon enough. :up:

MJZ

05-05-2006, 11:18 PM

:rolleyes: Plz. He was dating another girl prior to being casted for Returns.

Another PR conspiricy I assume?

It's CAST, you knucklehead.

AgentPat

05-05-2006, 11:18 PM

Yes you are. In my opinion, you're not even giving BR a chance. You gave skinny Welling a chance in Season One, why not give the same courtesy to BR?Honestly, all I knew about SV when it first preemed was that it was about a teenaged Clark Kent. Unlike some folks here, who had the "skinny" on the show from Day One, I had no idea who the actor was until I saw the Pilot. I liked what I saw, but I didn't see him AS "Superman" until the third season, literally FIFTY hours of programming later (Relic.)

As to Welling being skinny... LOL. Okay, he wasn't huge like he is now, but he was playing a teenager back then - and still is for that matter! Welling was cast as a 14 y.o. Clark Kent. He's 6'4, has bright hazel eyes, dark hair, and a very toned physique. The casting gods were definitely smiling on the day he was hired...

Pilot:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/pilot3.jpg

Rogue:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/rogue2.jpg

No, I've seen plenty of TW. Even though he's good, we'll never know if he could actually pull off the THREE roles this part requires - he plays it the same all the time in the show.My points were in reference to Routh, but if you must compare, you haven't seen him actually play three roles either. By contrast, SV fans have seen Welling portray FOUR personas (Clark, Jor-El, Kal-El, and Lionel), not to mention a few "possessions" and altered realities (Red, Spirit, Spell, Hypnotic, etc.)

Transference (Lionel):
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/transference6.jpg

He's shown aptitude for a rom-com, bumbling sort of demeanor...

Commencement:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/commencement11a.jpg

...and he's pulled of some very heroic, Superman-ish moments with complicated CGI work:

Hidden:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/hidden10.jpg

He's got the flying thing down fairly well too, even though he's really only performed it once...

Crusade:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade-ser5.jpg

Welling has shown that he can handle everything from paranoia, to sorrow, to seething rage...

Splinter:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/splinter3.jpg

His acting chops might have been a legitimate argument back in the first and second seasons, but it holds no validity now, IMHO. After five years and 110 episodes, I respectfully submit you'd be higher than a kite to even *suggest* Welling couldn't pull off Clark Kent (Smallville and Metropolis versions) and Superman/Kal-El in the same film, even with Ed Wood at the helm. Aight... a bit of hyperbole there, but still... hello??????? LOL

Clark Kent on SV is more Superman than his older, Metropolis CK facade.

Thank you - it is ALL about looks to you.Looks are important, but it's not the be all end all. Acting is important too, of course, which is why I used Pacino as an analogy...

Al Pacino is going a bit far, so that's an awful analogy.It was merely from an acting POV. From what I've seen in that trailer, Routh looks and sounds horrible, and I think critics are gonna rake him over the coals. I kinda feel sorry for him for that, in a strange sort of way. But I don't blame Routh; I blame Singer.

Yes, it's visual, and I'd have to say that BR is attractive enough to carry the role.Carrying a role is one thing, winning over an audience is another. I've seen enough of him already to know he's meh, at best. You feel otherwise. I'll agree to disagree.

Good - I'm tired of trying to inspire my sales team at work, at least my attitude is working somewhere.........Oh, rest assured, I'm always up for a good debate on this issue, but can we move it to another thread? It NEEDS to stop here.

Kane

05-05-2006, 11:21 PM

It's CAST, you knucklehead.

Mmm forced habit Dolph. I always say 'Casted' as an in-joke with Jack Bauer in the SHH DC movie board. He has a big "Theres no such word as Casted" in his Sig.

C. Lee

05-05-2006, 11:24 PM

Maybe his boyfriend at the time was Asian, and thats what they meant? :p
We can do without comments like that.

Kane

05-05-2006, 11:27 PM

Clark Kent on SV is more Superman than his older, Metropolis CK facade.

Looks are important, but it's not the be all end all. Acting is important too, of course, which is why I used Pacino as an analogy...

It was merely from an acting POV. From what I've seen in that trailer, Routh looks and sounds horrible, and I think critics are gonna rake him over the coals. I kinda feel sorry for him for that, in a strange sort of way. But I don't blame Routh; I blame Singer.

Carrying a role is one thing, winning over an audience is another. I've seen enough of him already to know he's meh, at best. You feel otherwise. I'll agree to disagree.

All in Agent Pat's personal opinion..... :rolleyes:

Which isnt surprising at all....

But on this note, you guys should get back to your photo manipulations of Welling as 'Superman'.

Enough about the Superman movie. Take it to the Talon.

Serene

05-05-2006, 11:35 PM

^^^^AWESOME post, Pat. Once again..

I love well-illustrated points. ;)

avidreader

05-05-2006, 11:45 PM

All in Agent Pat's personal opinion..... :rolleyes:

Which isnt surprising at all....

But on this note, you guys should get back to your photo manipula tions of Welling as 'Superman'.

Enough about the Superman movie. Take it to the Talon.

It shouldnt even be talked about in the Talon.

Wonderful post Pat. :up: Your cheer squad is always behind the goals. :)

AgentPat

05-05-2006, 11:56 PM

^^^^AWESOME post, Pat. Once again..

I love well-illustrated points. ;)Thanks, Serene and Avid! :D

You can ask Hulk, back in '04, everybody (SV fans included) were suspect of Welling's acting chops for a feature length Superman film. I was the first person - along with PDiddy et al - to acquiesce to the acting argument. We all were completely convinced of his appearance, however. Mind you, this was back in '04. Here we are in '06. Welling gets more Supermanish in looks every year, and I truly believe his acting chops can't be legitimately argued anymore. Well, not unless you'd rather have an Al Pacino in the role.

The last post over at that TV Guide op ed piece summed it up perfectly:

It will definitely be tough for this movie. The older generation will spend the entire movie comparing it to Christopher Reeves/Margo Kidder/Gene Hackman while the younger gen will compare it to Tom Welling/Erica Durance/ Michael Rosenbaum. It probably wont live up to anyone's expectations.Yup! Couldn't have said it better.

Anyhoo... just to keep this thread on topic, here's a nice manip made by Neilzy at BT's:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-neilzy.jpg

Kane

05-06-2006, 12:01 AM

It shouldnt even be talked about in the Talon.

I know I said I wouldnt get into this subject but I wana say one more thing;

Whats important that you guys need to understand is that Im on the same side as you...

but Brandon-bashing is just uncool. I never speak negative of Welling like that, only in the context of certain performances that lack in some episode reviews..

I mean obviously certain Smallville fans have some set opinions about this project that likely wont change, but seriously...its been two years; sing a new tune.

Being the resident 'snark' on the subject wont really change anything.

GothicPowerMix1

05-06-2006, 03:02 AM

Just read this new article & interview with Routh & this one bit stuck out

Routh knows that the fans of "Smallville," the popular television series about young Clark Kent's adventures before he dons the super-suit, have been grumbling that "their" Kryptonian, Tom Welling, should have been the face of the franchise. Routh praised Welling and asked only that people give the new film a chance on its own.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/cl-ca-routh7may07,0,1146572.story?coll=la-home-headlines

spideyrunner

05-06-2006, 05:01 AM

iam still wondering that when Tom Welling to become Superman in Smallville.

Whiteflag

05-06-2006, 05:10 AM

AgentPat, I can't praise you/thank you enough for your excellent posts about Tom Welling. We, Tom admirers, are lucky to have people like you who dedicate time, effort and a great mind to set things clear.

The illustrative pics don't hurt either!

Thanks!

GothicPowerMix1

05-06-2006, 05:26 AM

Imagine this place when this Show is over & all is said & done. It will be a grave yard with TW & MR moving on to bigger & better things & this place will pretty much eventually die

The Kid

05-06-2006, 07:57 AM

yep that's just the way it is. I've seen a few forums die in my time. But we enjoy or don't enjoy it while it lasts don't wee....

Kane

05-06-2006, 08:01 AM

Imagine this place when this Show is over & all is said & done. It will be a grave yard with TW & MR moving on to bigger & better things & this place will pretty much eventually die

Nah. I have a feeling Agent Pat and friends will still be here reminiscing on their show and making about 30 creepy Tom Welling threads.

The bigger question is whether SHH will still have a Smallville board after the show's cancellation. I certainly dont see a Lois and Clark board anymore.....and I even think the JLU board is doomed to end soon and be replaced by Legion of Superheroes.

Kane

05-06-2006, 08:03 AM

I've seen a few forums die in my time.

After you posted in them?

The Kid

05-06-2006, 08:19 AM

Yes, I destroy forums. Beware of Wesyeed. I've met a few kanes in my time to and I know just what to do with them.

Kane

05-06-2006, 08:22 AM

I'm the one and only.

You havent been annoying recently. It was just that one day where you made several useless threads about Superman Returns and starting spazzing out with Muscles4supes...

Good that youve calmed down.

KalKai

05-06-2006, 08:44 AM

Imagine this place when this Show is over & all is said & done. It will be a grave yard with TW & MR moving on to bigger & better things & this place will pretty much eventually die

When a show ends people will still continue to talk about it, and other places exist you know. You have no idea what's gonna happen after SV, so we just wait.

The Caped Knight

05-06-2006, 10:55 AM

Thanks, Serene and Avid! :D

You can ask Hulk, back in '04, everybody (SV fans included) were suspect of Welling's acting chops for a feature length Superman film. I was the first person - along with PDiddy et al - to acquiesce to the acting argument. We all were completely convinced of his appearance, however. Mind you, this was back in '04. Here we are in '06. Welling gets more Supermanish in looks every year, and I truly believe his acting chops can't be legitimately argued anymore. Well, not unless you'd rather have an Al Pacino in the role.

The last post over at that TV Guide op ed piece summed it up perfectly:

Yup! Couldn't have said it better.

Anyhoo... just to keep this thread on topic, here's a nice manip made by Neilzy at BT's:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-neilzy.jpg

Nice . :up: :up: :supes:

Serene

05-06-2006, 12:12 PM

Thanks, Serene and Avid! :D

You can ask Hulk, back in '04, everybody (SV fans included) were suspect of Welling's acting chops for a feature length Superman film. I was the first person - along with PDiddy et al - to acquiesce to the acting argument. We all were completely convinced of his appearance, however.

You must mean earlier in '04, before I got here. I never had any hesitations about Tom's ability to play the part in a feature. I've always thought his "WOW" factor would compensate for any minor shortcomings in acting experience. Now.. even that point is moot though.

Back on-topic..

A couple of oldies, but goodies:

http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/7427/tomrip165yr.jpg

Not old, but I just love it:
http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/5276/twsupeszing3kt.jpg
credit - Zing

I can't seem to find my Supes manips by DarkZombieMutt.. Anyone have them?

KalKai

05-06-2006, 12:15 PM

The only person who does good manips is Mike, and Zingy, oh and Alex Ross obviously, the rest.. lol.

Serene

05-06-2006, 12:23 PM

The only person who does good manips is Mike, and Zingy, oh and Alex Ross obviously, the rest.. lol.
Not true.. I've seen a lot of decent to great manips.
One of Mutt's is my screensaver. (So I must have the file somewhere.. right?) *sigh*

AgentPat

05-06-2006, 12:54 PM

You must mean earlier in '04, before I got here.It was a poll thread that became a full-on WAR between PDiddy and Superboy - two SHH "legends" - that initially inspired me to post on these very boards. And yes, it was in the Supes' forums. I only started posting in the SV forums when the poop finally hit the fan in October. LOL

I never had any hesitations about Tom's ability to play the part in a feature. I've always thought his "WOW" factor would compensate for any minor shortcomings in acting experience.I'd say it was his presence - the "IT" factor if you will - that folks responded to in the beginning, but his actual acting wasn't earth shattering. He was good, but I'm not sure how well he would have done in a feature length film with his 3rd season talent. Looking back, I'd say he was on the cusp. It could have gone either way.

Now.. even that point is moot though.Totally. There's no question about his ability as an actor any more. Dish it out; he can take it.

Back on-topic..

I can't seem to find my Supes manips by DarkZombieMutt.. Anyone have them?He's got a TON of 'em on a website somewhere, but I don't have the URL. :(

Here's one of my personal favorites of his though...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-mutt.jpg

Serene

05-06-2006, 01:34 PM

He's got a TON of 'em on a website somewhere, but I don't have the URL. :(

I found his art thread on the Planet - http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?t=1264

http://hometown.aol.com/moodymeaners/myhomepage/superflight3.jpg

http://hometown.aol.com/bizarromutt/myhomepage/heatvisionwp.jpg

Serene

05-06-2006, 01:45 PM

It was a poll thread that became a full-on WAR between PDiddy and Superboy - two SHH "legends" - that initially inspired me to post on these very boards. And yes, it was in the Supes' forums. I only started posting in the SV forums when the poop finally hit the fan in October. LOL

I think we all posted in the Supes forums and not these back then. Which is kind of strange in retrospect, but I guess it was the excitement over the "new" movie and who was going to be cast that made that forum much more lively.

Then, remember they moved the TW Should Be Supes thread (with..was it 8,000+ posts?) over here? And then it just went *poof*. :(

The Kid

05-06-2006, 01:53 PM

Here's one of my personal favorites of his though...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-mutt.jpg

thanks a lot Agent patty... now Im even more eager to see this guy wearing the suit :supes: the real one too, not the evil superman version... ;)

AgentPat

05-06-2006, 02:30 PM

I think we all posted in the Supes forums and not these back then. Which is kind of strange in retrospect, but I guess it was the excitement over the "new" movie and who was going to be cast that made that forum much more lively.Funny how the "wars" back then were so much more fun. I guess it was the "sport" in it, since everything was still up in the air (no pun intended). Everybody had a favorite team to root for, and the arguments though heated, were more on the level of my-daddy-can-beat-up-your-daddy LOLOL. Now, it's just... ugly.

Then, remember they moved the TW Should Be Supes thread (with..was it 8,000+ posts?) over here? And then it just went *poof*. :(Yeah, I don't know what happened to that thread. It fell into a black hole along with quite a few other threads - one of which was Gill's C. Reeve thread. To this day, I'm still a little pissed over it being conveniently "disappeared," Sopranos' style. :mad:

thanks a lot Agent patty... now Im even more eager to see this guy wearing the suit :supes: the real one too, not the evil superman version... ;)LOL! Have you see some of the manips done using Welling's actual body, Wesyeed? Here's two by Mike (Slumber) and DarkB (Aqua), respectively:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-mike-darkb.jpg

Anybody have the one Zing made using this promo from Arrival?

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/arrival2b.jpg

I thought I had it, but I guess I never saved it. Gah! Pathetic, I know. :(

KalKai

05-06-2006, 02:43 PM

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9368/wellingsuperman2ku.jpg

AgentPat

05-06-2006, 02:48 PM

^ That's it. Thanks, Kai! :D :up:

The Kid

05-06-2006, 02:57 PM

wow, I can't wait for this to really happen... he should keep the long hair for it. My fav supes is the one with long fabio hair, I don't feel quite as hetero anymore having said that though....

AgentPat

05-06-2006, 03:30 PM

wow, I can't wait for this to really happen... he should keep the long hair for it. My fav supes is the one with long fabio hair, I don't feel quite as hetero anymore having said that though....LOL! You guys make me laugh. :D

No argument from this peanut gallery with the hair thang...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/vessel.jpg

^ Still hoping somebody can manip that shot.

Bruce_Wayne29

05-06-2006, 03:59 PM

His hair looks similar to the look Supes has in The Return Of Superman saga... very cool.

blksuperman2

05-06-2006, 05:54 PM

I found his art thread on the Planet - http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?t=1264

http://hometown.aol.com/bizarromutt/myhomepage/heatvisionwp.jpg

This is the best thing since slice bread.:up:

darkzombiemutt

05-07-2006, 09:19 PM

awww, I feel so loved. :)

The Kid

05-07-2006, 10:15 PM

His hair looks similar to the look Supes has in The Return Of Superman saga... very cool.

http://www.thecomicmuseum.us/largeimages/superman/tn_CardsBinderBack.jpg I have a feeling welling will grow into a very similar look and could come back and do the Death storyline in a miniseries or something.

Zing79

06-13-2006, 05:44 AM

Re-did this because people were having an issue with the original face.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/Zing79/Superman01.jpg

Ultimate_Superman

06-13-2006, 07:51 AM

Now I can be wrong but I could sewar there is a thread for pictures like this on the second or third page.

AgentPat

06-13-2006, 07:22 PM

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/vengeance4.jpg

Yeah, I know, the hair. Too long for Supes.

Meh. Sue me. I like it that way. Long is good. :p

eXperiment

06-13-2006, 07:58 PM

I agree, superman looks stronger with long hair.

Look at this image: http://www.supermanhomepage.com/multimedia/Wallpaper-Images/long-hair1.jpg

Serene

06-13-2006, 10:35 PM

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/vengeance4.jpg

Yeah, I know, the hair. Too long for Supes.

Meh. Sue me. I like it that way. Long is good. :p

That's beautiful, Pat.
And the hair is just perfect, IMO. :up:

Pickle-El

06-14-2006, 12:00 AM

That's beautiful, Pat.
And the hair is just perfect, IMO. :up:

Serene, you actually like that mop?...No way. ;)

user123456789

06-14-2006, 12:20 AM

i think superman looks better with short hair

AgentPat

06-14-2006, 05:07 AM

I agree, superman looks stronger with long hair.

Look at this image: http://www.supermanhomepage.com/multimedia/Wallpaper-Images/long-hair1.jpgIt could be the whole "Samson" thing, I dunno, but I like the longer hair too...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/vessel1.jpg

(Not a manip per se, but it just shows how long Welling's hair actually was near the end of S5. LOL)

Serene

06-14-2006, 08:25 AM

Serene, you actually like that mop?...No way. ;)

I love it. :)

I'll blaspheme just a bit more and say that I find the slicked-back, greasy-looking, spit-curl thing more than a tad outdated even. I mean, it's great within context of the older movies and comics, but for any sort of modern interpretion of Superman, I think it's just silly.

A bit longer, but not too long, with enough in the front to give a "nod" to the 'ole spit-curl is how I think it should be.

:)

user123456789

06-14-2006, 11:23 AM

Scooter

06-14-2006, 11:34 AM

I think Welling should get a chin implant. How much do those cost?

AgentPat

06-14-2006, 12:48 PM

I think Welling should get a chin implant. How much do those cost?Dunno. I suppose he could always ask Bhttp://www.patcostello.com/smileys/censored2.gifh?

:p

I'll blaspheme just a bit more and say that I find the slicked-back, greasy-looking, spit-curl thing more than a tad outdated even. I mean, it's great within context of the older movies and comics, but for any sort of modern interpretation of Superman, I think it's just silly.

A bit longer, but not too long, with enough in the front to give a "nod" to the 'ole spit-curl is how I think it should be.Agreed! I HATE the "plastic hair" look. Somebody used the used car salesman analogy a few days ago (was that MJZ?) Perfect description. That slicked back look can be so outdated - and quite frankly, it doesn't make sense. What's he do? Smear grease on his hair and move the part to the other side right after he does a shirt rip? LOL Think about it.

G&M used to joke about all of the hair issues they had with various members of the cast, and Welling was no exception. In fact, I think his hair gave everybody the most grief. But there's one thing they all did agree on, and that was his hair always looked good, even underwater. I guess it HAS to look good considering the character, but it has at various times been windblown, dust-ridden, wet, slicked back, long, short, messy and coifed.

Here's a different approach I'd like to see them take, since a change in hairstyle between Metropolis Clark Kent (MCK) and Superman *is* relatively necessary. Smallville Clark Kent (SCK) is the real deal. He's secretive, but there's no facade to his overall demeanor. Other than just wanting to fit in with everybody else, he's not pretending to be something he's not. Granted, there's a few white lies he has to perpetrate from time to time, but people don't make a habit of asking him if he's human, so concealing those kinds of insignificant details shouldn't be a big deal. LOL

Okay, so beyond his alien ancestry and superhuman powers, what you see is what you get with SCK. All things being equal in Clark's life, he would continue to look the same as he does now, and that wouldn't likely change for a Very. Long. Time. This goes for his hair as well.

So! Wouldn't it make more sense that MCK - Superman's disguise at that point in Clark's life - is the version that looks different, not Superman? He's already wearing glasses, why not slick his hair back as MCK too? When he becomes Superman, he wears the costume and he can be "himself." That persona (minus the suit) is what we already see in SCK. When he flies, his hair and natural hair part would blow back to the way it "normally" falls. Basically, he'd "revert" to looking like he does now. Make sense?

LOL! The things geeks think about. :rolleyes: ;)

TKodami

06-14-2006, 01:47 PM

I love it. :)

I'll blaspheme just a bit more and say that I find the slicked-back, greasy-looking, spit-curl thing more than a tad outdated even. I mean, it's great within context of the older movies and comics, but for any sort of modern interpretion of Superman, I think it's just silly.

A bit longer, but not too long, with enough in the front to give a "nod" to the 'ole spit-curl is how I think it should be.

:)

I actually like it both ways--slicked back & longer. Welling looks amazing with longer hair. That pic from Vessel just screams Superman.

But I still really like the ultra-greased back look that Dean Cain had. It worked for him, I thought.

Go figure, I lack strong opinions on this subject. :O

Kaboom

06-14-2006, 01:50 PM

We CANNOT forget that 90s superman sported the Super-Mullet

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RakuMon

06-14-2006, 03:08 PM

So! Wouldn't it make more sense that MCK - Superman's disguise at that point in Clark's life - is the version that looks different, not Superman? He's already wearing glasses, why not slick his hair back as MCK too? When he becomes Superman, he wears the costume and he can be "himself." That persona (minus the suit) is what we already see in SCK. When he flies, his hair and natural hair part would blow back to the way it "normally" falls. Basically, he'd "revert" to looking like he does now. Make sense?

That's a good point. Although, wouldn't making his Superman resemble Smallville Clark be too telling. Smallville's (the television show) Clark isn't as unassuming as other Clark incarnations from past interpretations. For the movies, comics and prior shows, Clark really was from nowhere. However on Smallville, the town isn't as anonymous. Also, Clark's a football star and is fairly well known in town (and in Metropolis to some extent.) Therefore, for Clark to become Superman, reverting back to the way he is now would make it too obvious to A.) folks back home in Smallville when they turn on the television. They'll be like, isn't that the cute guy from High school? And to B.) the people in Metropolis who remember a few years ago there was some kid named Kal that was going around town driving fast cars and making out with hot women that looked just like Superman! And not only that, Clark was a key witness in one of Metropolis' most high profile criminal cases (against Lionel Luthor in "Covenant!")

There should probably be some happy medium. The MCK is definitely the disguise, but I think Clark in the Superman outfit has to differ from the guy we know now. Even if it is just a subtle difference. (Besides, it ain't gonna help his cause in the future since he's already pretty recognisable in blue and red! ;))

heliorei

06-14-2006, 05:30 PM

That's a good point. Although, wouldn't making his Superman resemble Smallville Clark be too telling. Smallville's (the television show) Clark isn't as unassuming as other Clark incarnations from past interpretations. For the movies, comics and prior shows, Clark really was from nowhere. However on Smallville, the town isn't as anonymous. Also, Clark's a football star and is fairly well known in town (and in Metropolis to some extent.) Therefore, for Clark to become Superman, reverting back to the way he is now would make it too obvious to A.) folks back home in Smallville when they turn on the television. They'll be like, isn't that the cute guy from High school? And to B.) the people in Metropolis who remember a few years ago there was some kid named Kal that was going around town driving fast cars and making out with hot women that looked just like Superman! And not only that, Clark was a key witness in one of Metropolis' most high profile criminal cases (against Lionel Luthor in "Covenant!")

There should probably be some happy medium. The MCK is definitely the disguise, but I think Clark in the Superman outfit has to differ from the guy we know now. Even if it is just a subtle difference. (Besides, it ain't gonna help his cause in the future since he's already pretty recognisable in blue and red! ;))

On the first paragraph, I agree with you: Clark is already too noticeable. in fact, we have to consider Lex and Lois. They already know Clark, not just the town of Smallville.

As for the seond paragraph , i agree with you to a certain extent: yes, he has to stay a low profile as Metropolis Clark Kent but as Superman, he has to have a different behavior, specially when the Lois subject comes around.

I agrre with The Question when he says there isn't really a disguise but merely extensions of his true personality: as MCK, he has to be discret, low profile (please, don't make him geek) not to gather any attention and as Superman, he can't have any sort of doubts, fears, etc. he can't be human, he has to be super-human, a man who inspires people, a leader, an inspiration. that's what people expect form the world's greatest hero.

When is he truely himself? Only when he is around the people who really know him like the Kents, Pete and now Chloe.

AgentPat

06-15-2006, 10:25 AM

That's a good point. Although, wouldn't making his Superman resemble Smallville Clark be too telling. Smallville's (the television show) Clark isn't as unassuming as other Clark incarnations from past interpretations. For the movies, comics and prior shows, Clark really was from nowhere. However on Smallville, the town isn't as anonymous.True, but this is really the first time we've got to see Superman's home town portrayed in the modern era. In this day and age, Smallville (the town) would have to be a true po dunk in the middle of nowhere with a population of 45, not 45,001 for nobody to recognize Clark later in life. Between the sheriff's dept and the Smallville Medical Center, not to mention his friends, teachers, and quite a few meteor freaks, SOMEBODY *should* recognize Clark later AS Superman. It's beyond dumb, but it's a conceit of the mythos. It wasn't so far fetched seventy years ago, but I'd argue it's impossible to pull off now.

Also, Clark's a football star and is fairly well known in town (and in Metropolis to some extent.) Therefore, for Clark to become Superman, reverting back to the way he is now would make it too obvious to A.) folks back home in Smallville when they turn on the television. They'll be like, isn't that the cute guy from High school?LOL@"cute guy from HS." Indeed. But yeah, um... same deal here. Even in the comics, SCK doesn't look that much different from Superman (sans tights). It's the dichotomy between MCK and Superman that's the big difference.

And to B.) the people in Metropolis who remember a few years ago there was some kid named Kal that was going around town driving fast cars and making out with hot women that looked just like Superman!Actually, the whole town of SV knew alien Ken and Barbie were looking for a Kal-El too.

No doubt, there's definitely a lot of loose ends to tie up before the series ends - who knows what about whom, for example - but I suspect a lot of these things will just be left open.

And not only that, Clark was a key witness in one of Metropolis' most high profile criminal cases (against Lionel Luthor in "Covenant!")Yet another thing that folks *should* recognize Clark from when he's Superman. His face doesn't change - just his clothing, and maybe his hair. In the "real" world, Superman would attract all sorts of scrutiny. Given SCK's past, it wouldn't be long (in the real world) before people figured it out.

There should probably be some happy medium. The MCK is definitely the disguise, but I think Clark in the Superman outfit has to differ from the guy we know now. Even if it is just a subtle difference. (Besides, it ain't gonna help his cause in the future since he's already pretty recognizable in blue and red! ;))HAH! Yeah, really. :up: