Batman Vs. Wolverine?

[Infinity9999x]

:wolverine :batman: OK who wins in a fight Batman or Wolverine? Personally I think Wolverine would if they were just in a hand to hand smackdown, but i Batman had enough time or knew he was going to fight Wolverine he'd win cuz he'd cook up sumthing.

[Darko]

Batman kicks everyone's ass using wit and logic. Wolverine is a character without without neither qualities, hands down Batman is the victor (I am disregarding the Wizard magazine battle which is completely bogus)...

[Infinity9999x]

Ya, I think if you had just an all out brawl like if wolverine jumped Batman or sumthin he'd prb win just cuz of his fight experience and healing abilities and he has claws...but like u said since batman has a very big upper hand in intelligence and wits he'd win if he knew wolverine was coming. Tho he could probably still win if Wolverine jumped him cuz he has all those gadgets but I still think Wolverine would win in that situation.
P.S. I also posted this in the x-men section to see the varied results.

[spdrknight]

I'll go with Bats... he would use stratagie and cunning to make Wolvie come to him and make mistakes, using his rage against him. Bats is calm and cool, which will allow him to win while Wolvie will be too quick to jump in and will make more mistakes. A skeleton of adamantium doesn't mean he can't be brought down and knocked out... which has been done before.

[Batman]

Batman is smarter,Wolverine is stronger.

Its a question of brains vs. brawn.

Now,consider some people that Batman has fought:

Bane,Clayface,Killer Croc,and Superman.

Hes WON against these guys,and all of them are arguably stronger than he is.

Using that logic ALONE,I'd say Batman wins.

[Infinity9999x]

good point

[DarkKnightJRK]

I think it's save to say that it would be a close fight.

What Logan has in his sheer Berzerker rage, Batman has in cunning and intelligence.

If Logan just jumped Batman from behind while he's unprepared, Logan would probably win, but Batman would pull a valient fight, one that Logan would sure as s**t remember.

If Batman faced Logan face to face, I think it would be a stand-still, where both would most likely either knock each other unconchience or both kill each other.

[CLARKY]

I hate to say this but Wolverine.
Batman would put him on the ground 10 times (or 20 or 100) but wolverine has no weakness and ready to kill.
ex: Bats notch the arm of wolverine with a batarang.Wolverine does the same with his claws.Well bats is hurt, wolverine not.
Those who claim supes is perfect haven't seen wolverine.I remember an issue , his heart is taken out of his torso......and he is not dead.......
gee I hate that.
so.. Wolverine.

[swifty]

:eek: what!! Wolvie's heart was taken out and still survived? :eek: talking about healing powers, so basically he can regenerate entire organs!!!! Wow!!!
Well!!! what can batman do against somebody with a healing ability of that magnitude and an adamentium covered skeleton!!!

In terms of wits....no comparison!!!! (sorry Wolvie)...although in the movies, they made him look very intelligent, he was the one who figured out Magneto's plan of using Rogue to power the machine.

[regwec]

Batman would ask Wolverine a simple brain teaser, at which point Wolverine's head would explode in confusion.

[Mister Sinister]

Darkclaw :)

[Two-Face]

The Dark Knight wins.

[Alfie Luke]

LOL Come on now people...
You're just saying that because you prefer Batman, end of story.

I like them both a lot, but Wolverine would win hands down!
Sure, Batman has the "wits", but Wolverine is both stronger and faster.

There's just so much you can do with intellect... and batarangs. :rolleyes:

[darknight7]

Wolverine would win





















:(sorry bats
--dk7

[Infinity9999x]

huh you kno one of the reason's I posted this is because I wanted to see if people would just go w/ their fav character becuz he's there fav character, and surprisingly less people are doing that then I thought, and most of the ppl who pick their fav character have valid arguments for them.

[Batman]

LOL Come on now people...
You're just saying that because you prefer Batman, end of story.

Thats Bulls**t,end of story.

I like them both a lot, but Wolverine would win hands down!
Sure, Batman has the "wits", but Wolverine is both stronger and faster.

Yet so is Bane,Superman,Clayface,and Killer Croc.

HES BEATEN THEM ALL.

]There's just so much you can do with intellect... and batarangs. :rolleyes:

Your underestimating Batman.

Honestly,if you think all hes got going for him is batarangs and intellect,you're wrong.

Hes trained himself to the absolute PEAK of human perfection,without needing superpowers.

Im sure it would be hard to take down Wolverine,given that his claws are made of the most industructable substance known to man,but he would find a way.

Why?

Because hes BATMAN.One of the smartest,most prepared,most armed,most driven,and most trained superheroes in existance,if not THE most.

Wolverine is driven by rage,and Batman could,as said,exploit that and use it against Wolvie.

I've read and been a fan of BOTH characters for over half of my life,BTW.

[Infinity9999x]

i think you're writing Wolverine off as a little phsyco, if you read ne good wolverine story (like the 4 ish mini Claremont wrote w/ Shingin) you will see that he has as much drive as Batman, and Wolverine has also found ways to win against tougher and bigger oppoents. Realistically it would all come down to which company is willing to let which icon fall, Wolverine is a huge icon for Marvel and Batman is a huge icon for DC, and I'm betting neither company would want to see one of their trademarks fall to the other. I'm betting they'd do sumthin like either a draw or they each beat eachother once sumthin along those lines.

[AnavelGato86]

The advantage is definatly in Wolverines favor. Even when just fighting.
He's a hell of a lot heavier (unless were talking about Logan after Magneto ripped the metal off of his bones) and he's shorter, giving him a lower center of balance.

Also if you accept certain stories of Logan, he has trained in many of the same fighting styles as batman. Most of these give you an even lower center of balance.

Out of raw strengh I would say they were about the same. Same as drive.
IF batman knew what he was fighting, he would go for much more damaging shots, because he knew Logan would survive.

Logans claws are also both an advantage as well as a disatvantage.
If you read a few GA of batman such as Ten nights of the Beast, when KGBeast has the new arm he sticks it into a wall. The same can happen to Logan, and since it is indestructable he has to pull it out with sheer force, wich will be much harder.

ALSO, I bet it would hurt like hell if Batman were to step on the claws. Just because the metal is industructable, doesnt mean that it wont hurt him.


SO here is the way I see it: Batman would have no reason to really go after Logan, unless he for some reason started acting way out of character. Logan however has been an assasin in numerous comics. So it would be probable that Logan would take out a hit on batman.

He would probably use a weapon from a long range, probably rifle. He probably would never get a clean shot at him however, only hit his cape. With this Batman knows the direction he is in. Logan's cover is blown and jumps over a roof top to attack.

With Batman's reflexes, he throws 2 batarangs that just grace him in the shoulder and leg. Logan gets up and attacks, nothing batman hasnt seen before. They excange a few blows hadn to hand a good solid blow to Batmans chest and he retaliates with a leg sweep.

Logan gets up and brandish his claws, he now moves on a fast offencive. Batman dodges, and keeps his distance, slowly backing his way to the side of the roof. He then counters and kicks the back of Logan off of a small building, non fatal but certainly damaging for a normal person.

Batman jumps down just as Logan starts getting up. He cracks his neck as batman notices the cuts he made on him have dissapeared. Logan runs twoard him, throws a clawed punch, wich batman dodges easily however too concerned about the claws he gets kneed in the ribs. Batman is not out, nor does he not have his witts about him. He grabs Logan's arm and throws him as he's falling down, and punching him in the gut.

The both get up and Logan jumps at him again always staying on the offencive, Batman dodges keeping more distance and throws 2 more batarangs deep into Logans right arm. Logan temporarily blinded in pain gets kicked hard in the head and hits a wall. One set of claws find there way deep inside of the brick. He struggels and pulls them out, but again recieves a kick to the chest. He blocks the next blow and rushes Batman into the opposite wall, scraping Bruce's ribs and one of his arms with his claws. Batman sucker punches Logan in the neck and kicks him away. He quickly throws a bola around Logan's arms and kicks him down. He steps on his claws as Logan yelps out. Batman kicks his head into the ground, temporarily knocking him out. Bruce gets away as quickly as he can. He knows he cant win.


I think thats about how it would go, what do you think?

[Cypher]

Wolverine would win because of his Healing Power.

[Infinity9999x]

I doubt stepping on his claws would hurt him, or if it did it wouldn't hurt him enough to hesitate, he's broken his claws on things b4 when they were bone and that never made him yelp or hesitate much he usually just kept on going.

[Jiggle Billy]

plus wolverine has gotten his claws stuck in things like walls and such on many occasions... you know what he does to get them out? he retracts them a bit, because they cut through anything, the claws easily glide back..

also stepping on his claws wouldn't hurt or work.. why? 2 reasons

1 cuz they're coated in adamantium, wear a steel toed construction boot and tell someone to stomp on your foot, did you feel anything..??

2 they're sharp on both sides, bats stomps wolverines adamantium claw, oops sorry you just lost your foot there batman

lastly, wolverine is never blinded by pain, giving him a deep cut in his arm by a batarang is like you getting a scratch, wolverine is very tough, he's shot up by machine guns, and he still keeps coming, which i would say is a little bit more injury then a batarang cut

[Batman]

I take back my last comment,cause I thought about this a little more.....:o

IF Wolverine were to catch Batman off guard......something that RARELY happens to Batman.....I think Wolvie could slice him in half with little effort.

Otherwise,I doubt Batman would let him get the advantage.

When I said that "Wolverine is driven by rage,and Batman could,as said,exploit that and use it against Wolvie.",I meant Batman could realise that(Unless Ive missed something,Wolverine can get angry pretty easily.....but then again,I havent read much Wolverine latley.:o),and exploit it,purposely making Wolverine angrier and angrier,with taunts,and cheap shots.Maybe,if he knew something about Wolverine,hit a nerve.

Wolverine would keep his cool and fight Batman,but if he allowed Batman to live long enough,eventually Batman would send him into a HUGE rage,making Logan lose focus.He'd slip up,and Batman would take advantage of it,by knocking him out with a blow to the head.

Of course,Batman wouldn't be able to kill him,or defeat him another way other than knocking him out,cause,as said,Wolverine has the healing factor.

So Batman would win,in a way....

A fight to the death,however,I can see Wolverine winning.

So,to tell you the truth,I can see a way for either hero to win,but it really depends on the circumstances.

[Batman]

plus wolverine has gotten his claws stuck in things like walls and such on many occasions... you know what he does to get them out? he retracts them a bit, because they cut through anything, the claws easily glide back..

also stepping on his claws wouldn't hurt or work.. why? 2 reasons

1 cuz they're coated in adamantium, wear a steel toed construction boot and tell someone to stomp on your foot, did you feel anything..??

2 they're sharp on both sides, bats stomps wolverines adamantium claw, oops sorry you just lost your foot there batman

lastly, wolverine is never blinded by pain, giving him a deep cut in his arm by a batarang is like you getting a scratch, wolverine is very tough, he's shot up by machine guns, and he still keeps coming, which i would say is a little bit more injury then a batarang cut

You seem to know alot more about him than I do,so refresh my memory.......


Can he get knocked out,even if only temporary?

Cause if not,that completely destroys my argument.:o

[AnavelGato86]

not on the blade, on the flat edge. and im talking abotu the pressure being in his hand. You take a lever, you press one end, the other side moves. That other side is in his freakin hand. Its going to hurt. the pressure would push the bones in his hand outward.

And its not that he doesnt feel the pain, several books talk about that. Its just that he heals so fast he can forget about it.

[Jiggle Billy]

@ bruce he's been knocked out before, but it takes quite a bit more damage to do it then to do it to a normal person

@anavel, his bones are also coated in adamantium, the pressure won't make them move outward, also it would be very difficult and dangerous to try and step on the flat edge of wolverines claws, all wolverine has to do is twist his wrist slightly and there goes batmans foot.

he does feel the pain, but he's unaffected by it, his weapon x training made sure of that, only the most serious injuries cause wolverine to be "blinded by pain" (mags ripping his adamantium out)

[AnavelGato86]

they would move outward, it doesnt matter if his bones are industructable, there still connected by cartalige at some point. If not he couldnt move, that cartilge is going to tear and its going to be a pain he isnt used to.

[Jiggle Billy]

actually, i remember an issue of ultimate x-men where, gambit kicks wolverine in the knee, bending it backwards, tearing all of his tendons. Wolverine goes " heh. didn't know a knee could bend that way". he pops it back in and is about to kill gambit when rogue stops him

[Infinity9999x]

exactally, stepping on his claws, even if they did bend which i still have doubts bout that, would prb not even fase him

[shadowbat_77]

batman wins _hell ya

[Bat-Justin]

first time they fight if Batman is unprepared Wolverine will probably "win" but not do enough damage to hurt Batman. Batman will narrowly escape and then lure Wolverine to 1 of 3 traps... some kind of water thingy and drown him (like boom tube him to a water planet), some kind of hole in the ground where he'll bury him, or a volcano/factory with big container or really hot stuff. I know Batman doesn't kill but maybe Wolverine will forever die and regenerate OR he doesn't consider him human so it's ok...

Also...if these two existed in the same universe then Batman/bruce wayne could probably get some adamantium and could make an adamantium suit like the giant robot suit in that one episode of batman beyond, or plate the batmobile in it where he can't be touched. And then once wolverine's incapacitated he'll be put in an adamantium prison (i don't actually know what happens when adamantium strikes adamantium but i would think that it can't cut through itself sooooo i dunno someone tell me if i'm wrong)

[punishermax]

I'd say Batman, but with prep time Batman could take out a god :D

[Alfie Luke]

Stop fooling yourselves... Batman can't win this one.

Why do people keep saying Batman would use Wolverine's rage against himself? Can anyone actually SAY what Batman would do with that 'advantage'?

Batman: "Oh good, I managed to make him angry... now he looks like he's twice as fast and just cuts through anything and everything that stands in his way to me and he won't let go until I'm dead... I'm a freakin' genius!"

Also, I doubt stepping on his claws would hurt him, because it IS adamantium we're talking about here... it's not like you can bend it with your bare hands...

Batman defeated Bane?
When it comes to speed, Bane pales in comparaison to Wolverine.

Batman defeated Killer Croc?
Same as for Bane... simply cannot compare in the speed department.

Batman defeated Clayface?
That's something sheer strenght / speed couldn't do... Wolverine could 'probably' beat him too, if he was calm enough to find a way to destroy someone made out of clay ( it's more a question of wits than anything else )

Batman defeated Superman?
Eh... too bad Wolverine isn't vulnerable to kryptonite! :D

I'm not saying Batman isn't strong / fast or any good...
I'm just saying he can't win them all... especially not this one.

[regwec]

Eh... too bad Wolverine isn't vulnerable to kryptonite! :D.
So you're suggesting that Superman is weaker than Wolverine? Anyway, in Hush Batman defeated Superman with only a small ring as his deployment of kryptonite, which appeared only to have a moderate effect.

Wolverine's a short meathead with the brain of a flea. Batman pisses on freaks like him.

[Alfie Luke]

So you're suggesting that Superman is weaker than Wolverine?

No, I'm saying that Wolverine isn't vulnerable to kryptonite... period.

Wolverine's a short meathead with the brain of a flea.

Yeah he's short ( 5' 3'', right? ) but he's far from being completely stupid...
There are quite a few different 'kinds' of intelligence. I see Wolverine as being more of a 'street smart' than a 'book smart' ( evidently ). He hunts, he fights, he kills... that's what he's good at.

In battle, Batman can't compare... although he IS extremely skilled.

[Infinity9999x]

(i don't actually know what happens when adamantium strikes adamantium but i would think that it can't cut through itself sooooo i dunno someone tell me if i'm wrong)[/QUOTE]

in the early x-men comix when alpha flight was after Wolverine they locked him in an adamantium cage, which he managed to escape from. You never learn how he did it too. This also gives evidence against the "wolverine is stupid" theory because he had to be smart to get out of something he couldn't rip through.

[hitman04]

well, i think batman would give wolverine a hell of a fight, since he's got all those martial arts skills, but there's only so much he can do to him: logan's bones are unbreakable, any flesh wound batman could make will heal immedeatly, and i don't think pressure point strikes will work on him, and eventually batman would tire out. wolverine also is willing to kill, and he has his claws, so unfortunately, wolverine would win :(

[Infinity9999x]

ya and add to the fact that wolverine probably knows just as much martial arts fighting as batman

[Infinity9999x]

I just thought of how Wolverine could win. He could steal Batman's pants and give him a burrito.

[hitman04]

lmao

[Batman]

Batman brain washes Superman into kicking Wolvies ass.......:o


And Wolvie doesnt have access to kryptonite.....

[Infinity9999x]

wolverine could ask professor X to come and brainwash superman into thinking he's a 12 year old transvestite who likes to run around wearing pink undies calling himself The Pink Pantie Liberator of Flowers.

[brainchild81]

Batman would ask Wolverine a simple brain teaser, at which point Wolverine's head would explode in confusion.lol. Batman would ask Wolverine a simple brain teaser, at which point Wolverine would run up & cut Batman's head off.

[regwec]

brainchild, you're a straightforward Marvel fanboy. When you're not bashing Superman on the Superman board, you're bashing Batman here. It's pretty sad.

[Guyverjay]

I don't think you can talk considering the post he's responding to

[regwec]

That was obviously a joke. In no circumstances will cerebral activity actually cause a rupture in the cranium, Guyverjay.

In any case, I at least confine my fanboyism to the relevant board, rather than drifting over to the X-Men board to bash Wolverine.

[Guyverjay]

And how was his response any different from yours?

[Infinity9999x]

dude, rewec, I think he was just jokin too. I mean he did say lol to the quote he was responding too. If he wanted to really rip batman he'd be saying things like batman suckes and wolverine would kick his ass no prob. I don't see him doin that here. I can't say anything for what he does on the superman boards tho, since I never go there.

[brainchild81]

brainchild, you're a straightforward Marvel fanboy. When you're not bashing Superman on the Superman board, you're bashing Batman here. It's pretty sad.I no longer take psychology classes, but I think what you're doing is called displacement. I made a simple joke. If it got that kind of response from you, we both know who the fanboy is. There's another thread that you started where I put Bats & Nightwing on my 7 favorite heroes list. Think.

[regwec]

Nope, I just feel it's quite mean-spirited of you to alternate between the Batman and Superman boards trashing both characters and constantly vaunting Marvel and its "characters". I don't see why you would have any business at all posting in the Superman forum, given your sig.

[brainchild81]

Son, you sound stupid right now. I have business posting anywhere I want. The name of that thread is "Why superman never were my fav hero". WTF do you expect? It seems like you have a problem w/me liking Marvel more than DC. Get over it.

Wolverine's a short meathead with the brain of a flea. Batman pisses on freaks like him.Now that's what I call bashing. Unprovoked bashing. You shouldn't have to make Wolvie look bad in order for Batman to look good. I don't bash Batman. I think he's one of 7 absolute best heroes out. I would never say anything bad about him unless it was in response to his fanboys bashing somebody else. In case you didn't notice, DC fanboys(yourself included), especially Batfanboys tend to do that alot. I like both Bats & Wolvie. I just think Wolvie'd win that's all. You obviously care a great deal about what I post. That's great. Everybody should. I am brainchild81.:) Before you judge me, look @ all my posts. I have nothing against you, but please stop b***hin' dude.

[regwec]

No, son, you just annoy me occasionally.

Edit: I'll take back the charge of fanboyism, if it is indeed unfounded, but I do maintain that it is a little...heavyhanded to drift between boards undermining the subject matter of each. Actually, it's silly. I mean, why do it?

[brainchild81]

I don't. on the "Why superman never were my fav hero" thread, I gave my reasons why Supes isn't my favorite hero. On "Batman Vs. Wolverine", I post about Batman vs. Wovlerine. Are you saying that posting my thoughts on who would be the victor is "undermining the subject matter"? What are you talking about? You're not making much sense. Would you react like this if I said "Wolverine is 100% inferior to Batman. Batman would kick his short stupid a$$ because Batman rocks and Wolverine doesn't rock"? Not likely. You'd probably be happy w/that kind of post. This is not a DC fanboys only thread. People have different opinions. Get used to it. It's not the end of the world. We should end this. It's childish. It's beneath me.

[Two-Face]

I hate "Batman vs threads."

[Riven]

Darkclaw :)

Wow, that's a blast from the past!

http://www.wrathoftherunt.com/wotr/wolv/othercostumes/Darkclaw.jpg http://www.jas.com/wolverineworld/WGallery/1/big/darkclaw.jpg

[regwec]

@Brainchild

I would be annoyed if you bashed Wolverine if it was on the X-men board. I think it's a simple matter of diplomacy. In any case, your comments taken individually are alright, it's just that taken together they begin to look like some kind of amatuer anti-DC campaign.

Like I said, if that's not how you feel, then all is forgiven.

[brainchild81]

Then all is forgiven. The only way I'd be anti-DC is if I was working for Marvel. Even then I'd have to be in danger of losing my job or some $$$ on my check directly because of DC. Ever heard me say "DC sux" or "Batman sux"? No. The only person I ever come @ like that is Supes. And even w/that I watch Smallville & every DC toon out except Teen Titans. I even gave "Birds of Prey" a chance. It's unreasonable for me to have anything against a person or company unless they're doing something evil.In any case, your comments taken individually are alright, it's just that taken together they begin to look like some kind of amatuer anti-DC campaign. To a person that's looking for one.

[GL1]

Draw... Wolverine's not going to 'outsmart' Batman, even in a hand to hand fight any time this century, and Batman's not going to kill wolverine (against code)... it'd just be one explosive batarang (read grenade) after another until Wolverine decided to stop fighting... not to mention bats using poisons and stuff to occupy wolvie's healing factor and make all those cuts and bruises count...

Agreed, if Wolverine gets a few claws on Batman, the fight's over, but Batman is WAAAAY more mobile than Wolverine on his best day...

[brainchild81]

Wolverine......decide to stop fighting? lol. How about Batman doesn't have an unlimited amount of rangs w/him and he'd run out before (chuckle)Wolverine decides to stop fighting(chuckle). Brings up a good question though. Does anybody know what items & how much of each does Bats carry on his person on a normal day?

[Riven]

Brings up a good question though. Does anybody know what items & how much of each does Bats carry on his person on a normal day?
Since when does Batman have "normal days"? :p

[brainchild81]

I meant normal for Batman.

[GL1]

Y'know... I can't think of one time when Batman has ever 'run out' of things... or said 'oh, I wish I had my other belt'

But lets say his most often used belt, just patrolling around the city 'ready for anything'

As far as damage dealing weapons he tends to have

Batarangs (freezing, explosive, electrifying, blunt, cutting)
Gas pellets (Vision, Knock out)
grapple lines and launchers

in 'endless' supply... I suppose he would have to electrify wolverine enough to keep the man's muscles from working (assuming wolverine still uses his brain to control his muscles with a nervous system) in which case, he could just leave a batarang on a koed wolvie and walk away about his business...

But to be fair, it's 'possible' for Wolvie to cut Batman up... It just doesn't seem likely...

[Guyverjay]

Come on thats such bull****. For wolvie to not cut batman he'd have to not get one shot in in which about as likely as me swimming in the sea of tranquility

[raybia]

I'll go with Bats... he would use stratagie and cunning to make Wolvie come to him and make mistakes, using his rage against him. Bats is calm and cool, which will allow him to win while Wolvie will be too quick to jump in and will make more mistakes. A skeleton of adamantium doesn't mean he can't be brought down and knocked out... which has been done before.

I don't remember the name of the graphinc novel but Wolve got his ass handed to him by some old samarui master back in the eighties. It wasn't even close.

[Guyverjay]

Um you negelct to mention that Wolvie had been shot and drugged before hand. In the return bout Wolvie impaled shingen through the face:up:

[Sauron]

Wolverine's lived through worse than Batman. I like Batman but, no way would he win. Like I said Wolvie's lived through worse. A batarang aint taken down Logan.
Wolverine has had a bullet bounce off his heada batarang or any other bat weapon isn't going to phase him.

Wolvie pops his claws and rips through Batman. The End. :wolverine :up: :) :cool: Nuff Said.

[Infinity9999x]

Agreed, if Wolverine gets a few claws on Batman, the fight's over, but Batman is WAAAAY more mobile than Wolverine on his best day...[/QUOTE]

thats probably not true. Wolverine has been seen with having super-human like speed. In one comic book there was a large group of men w/ machine guns probably no more then 3 feet away from him and right as they shot wolverine dissapeared under the bartable. He moved fast enought for them not to even see his movement. There have been many moments in the comics where wolverine astounds people with his exceptional quickness, and I would say batman would have equal if not inferior speed to Wolverine.
I would say wolverine would be able to get a few claws on batman but since both men are experts at the martial arts they wouldn't be able to peg eachother with any good attacks.

[GL1]

Agreed, if Wolverine gets a few claws on Batman, the fight's over, but Batman is WAAAAY more mobile than Wolverine on his best day...

thats probably not true. Wolverine has been seen with having super-human like speed. In one comic book there was a large group of men w/ machine guns probably no more then 3 feet away from him and right as they shot wolverine dissapeared under the bartable. He moved fast enought for them not to even see his movement. There have been many moments in the comics where wolverine astounds people with his exceptional quickness, and I would say batman would have equal if not inferior speed to Wolverine.
I would say wolverine would be able to get a few claws on batman but since both men are experts at the martial arts they wouldn't be able to peg eachother with any good attacks.

True enough... Batman is only a LOT more mobile than wolvie, as opposed to WAAAAAAAY more mobile. I'm thinking about Bats' grapples, ropes and such, which, from what I've seen are just as good as flying... the cape doesn't hurt... Batman has a vertical mobility that Wolvie doesn't... now in an open field or a little WWE cage, I suppose that wouldn't matter, but in general, Bats gets around better, and does the 'dissappearing' trick all night every night, as opposed to just on special occasions...

But the POINT is, these guys are on such even footing it's SILLY to say "Batman would WHUP Wolvie" or "Wolvie would slice up Batman" cuz they both know EVERYTHING about fighting... There the only guys in their weight class that've dropped the Hulk... it's a crazy amount of skill we're talking about...

[Guyverjay]

Bah never bring up that crappy Batman/Hulk crossover please, its one the lamest pieces of fiction ever put on paper.

[brainchild81]

I agree

[Relentless_Bat]

well to me it seems that on the level of strength, speed and martial arts prowness/skill, Wolverine and Batman are pretty much dea even. Wolverine OBVIOUSLY bests Batman in the Durability/endurance category, but Batman has more resources and a better intellect, he i also a better tactician, not saying wolverine isnt smart, but Batman I think would edge out the victory because lets face it, although Wolvie is probably my fav from Marvel (spiderman too), Bats has beaten peope that make wolverine look like a *****, although Wolverine would leave Batman a few scars to remeber, Bats would pull out the win in the end

[brainchild81]

Not saying that you're wrong, but who has Bats beaten that makes Wolvie look like a *****? And how did he beat them? Please don't say Superman. Also when you curse please @ least give me a letter so I know what you mean:rolleyes: ?

[GL1]

Who has Batman defeated?

Superman
Darkseid
Lex Luthor
~3 or 4 White Martians ("strong as superman, fast as the flash")
Ra's Alghoul (Wolvie fights the Hand soldiers, Batman fights the leader... who is older and a more experienced fighter than Wolvie, btw...)(Most recently, he killed Ra's with only the physical prowess of an AVERAGE billionaire playboy)
Justice League[Flash, Green Lantern Rayner, Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhutner, Aquaman] (by way of Ra's Alghoul) --- I hesitate to count this one, since y'know, they were all sleeping, though all those things could've been carried on the bat-belt...

Multiple Predators
Captain America, technically
Clayface (like to see Wolvie beat him...)

In each and every case long multi-battle bouts ended in Batman using the character's mental and physical weaknesses against them... EVERY SINGLE ONE failed to overcome him in their first battle. Armies of Superman-killing Doomsdays, Cyclops-sized blasts of heat vision, turning the entire population of the world against Bruce and making it IMPOSSIBLE for communication of any sort anywhere to take place... it didn't matter, Batman's too mobile too resourceful... he comes back and decimates his opponents, no matter how much stronger, faster, regenerative, old, 'all-slicing' or whatever...

The only person that comes to mind that can beat Batman is Deathstroke, who has all of wolverine's strengths and ON TOP of that, is a crafty sunnuva gun. He's not just 'the best at what he does', cuz that's not enough, he's all that and he's a genious when it comes to planning the downfall of his opponent both pre and mid-battle... just like Bruce. Oh, btw, Batman's beat him a few times too. So has Robin.

Can Wolverine even beat Robin/Nightwing? :)

[Relentless_Bat]

excatly, all these men have been beaten by the Bat, Wolverine has a VERY impressive resume, but harly that of batmans, hell even though he lost the irst time, he still whooped Bane second time around, hell he was SICK and he still managed to put half of Arkham back and beat banes henchman befor being broken, his undeniabl WILL TO WIN brought him back to better condition than he w before knightfall

[Guyverjay]

Who has Batman defeated?

Superman
Darkseid
Lex Luthor
~3 or 4 White Martians ("strong as superman, fast as the flash")
Ra's Alghoul (Wolvie fights the Hand soldiers, Batman fights the leader... who is older and a more experienced fighter than Wolvie, btw...)(Most recently, he killed Ra's with only the physical prowess of an AVERAGE billionaire playboy)
Justice League[Flash, Green Lantern Rayner, Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhutner, Aquaman] (by way of Ra's Alghoul) --- I hesitate to count this one, since y'know, they were all sleeping, though all those things could've been carried on the bat-belt...

Multiple Predators
Captain America, technically
Clayface (like to see Wolvie beat him...)

In each and every case long multi-battle bouts ended in Batman using the character's mental and physical weaknesses against them... EVERY SINGLE ONE failed to overcome him in their first battle. Armies of Superman-killing Doomsdays, Cyclops-sized blasts of heat vision, turning the entire population of the world against Bruce and making it IMPOSSIBLE for communication of any sort anywhere to take place... it didn't matter, Batman's too mobile too resourceful... he comes back and decimates his opponents, no matter how much stronger, faster, regenerative, old, 'all-slicing' or whatever...

The only person that comes to mind that can beat Batman is Deathstroke, who has all of wolverine's strengths and ON TOP of that, is a crafty sunnuva gun. He's not just 'the best at what he does', cuz that's not enough, he's all that and he's a genious when it comes to planning the downfall of his opponent both pre and mid-battle... just like Bruce. Oh, btw, Batman's beat him a few times too. So has Robin.

Can Wolverine even beat Robin/Nightwing? :)


Can you even beat fanboy stupidity?

[saint sinner x]

ok first of all BATMAN would win simply because he has beaten captain america and captain america was the one that taught wolverine how to fight not only that batman is too resourceful probably the most resourceful combatan in the DC universe plus he's just way smarter than wolverine and much more psychotic and batman has long distance range wolverine doesnt have long-distance range come on guys were talking about batman here..Batman defeated richard dragon on hand to hand combat..

[Infinity9999x]

l (Wolvie fights the Hand soldiers, Batman fights the leader... who is older and a more experienced fighter than Wolvie, btw...)[/QUOTE]

Actually Wolverine fought shingin who was more experienced at marial arts then wolverine.

And Sain Sinner, Wolverine did not learn fighting techniques from the Cap, he was actually older and more experienced when working w/ cap, cap was a beginner when workin w/ wolverine. Wolverine learned many of his martial arts skills from Ogun a man who has been discribed as being able to kill a full grown waterbuffalo with a mere slap. Ogun was also a sorcerer and tried to posses kitty pride. But ya Wolvie didn't learn fightin from Cap, least not that I'm aware of I could be wrong.

And when did Bats beat cap? I didn't read JLA/Avengers

[saint sinner x]

in JLA/Avengers he beat cap and in marvel knights chronnicles it specificly says that captain america trained wolverine.....

[brainchild81]

Actually Wolverine fought shingin who was more experienced at marial arts then wolverine.

And Sain Sinner, Wolverine did not learn fighting techniques from the Cap, he was actually older and more experienced when working w/ cap, cap was a beginner when workin w/ wolverine. Wolverine learned many of his martial arts skills from Ogun a man who has been discribed as being able to kill a full grown waterbuffalo with a mere slap. Ogun was also a sorcerer and tried to posses kitty pride. But ya Wolvie didn't learn fightin from Cap, least not that I'm aware of I could be wrong.

And when did Bats beat cap? I didn't read JLA/Avengers
Don't worry. It wasn't in JLA/Avengers. In JLA/Avengers, Bats pretty much concedes that Cap would reasonably beat him. To my recollection the only time Bats ever beat Cap was in that Marvel Vs. DC crap. And even in that the fight was lame. I think I remember Bats was getting tired. He was breathing hard. Cap wasn't. I think a brick fell on Cap's head or something like that. The results were voted on by fans(&fanboys) so it doesn't really count. SSX is a fanboy beyond comparison.

[brainchild81]

in JLA/Avengers he beat cap and in marvel knights chronnicles it specificly says that captain america trained wolverine.....Where did he beat Cap in JLA/Avengers? I stopped after pt. 2 or 3 so there's a slight chance I could be wrong. The last thing I remember is Bats yielding. Even if Wolvie was trained by Cap(which I'm not sure of), that's only a fraction of what he's been trained in.

[Infinity9999x]

in JLA/Avengers he beat cap and in marvel knights chronnicles it specificly says that captain america trained wolverine.....

are you sure about the wolverine thing? because wolverine's roughly about 60-70 yrs older n' cap. Tho wolvie dont kno that.

[saint sinner x]

are you sure about the wolverine thing? because wolverine's roughly about 60-70 yrs older n' cap. Tho wolvie dont kno that.

yes im sure i have the book besides captain america was a world war 2 soldier he was an experiment and he was frozen for years that's how he doesnt age according to the super soldier serum it slow down the aging process he trained wolverine in weapon x in any given comics wolverine is about 120years old....go to www.marvel.com (http://www.marvel.com/) and see for your self oh and batman said that it is conceivable that cap can beat him which means nothing at all it means is that there equal pretty much yet batman is more resourceful more smarter and pretty much has more experience.......

[brainchild81]

I think it meant a little more than that. It was like one of those "If we continue this, you're gonna knock me the hell out, but it'll take you awhile and I'll probably get in a punch or 2" type things. You seem to think Batman kicks eveybody's a$$ damn near all the time. If Batman thought like that, he'd probably be getting his a$$ handed to him quite often. I love Cap & Bats, but Batman talked his way out of an a$$ kicking and he knew it. So was that part about Bats beating Cap in JLA/Avengers a mistake, or just a fanboy's wishful thinking?

[Relentless_Bat]

Bats is a master stragetist, taking nothing from Cap, but he SPECIALIZES IN GETTIN THE UPPER HAND IN ANY ENVORINMENT OR SITUATION, meaning that telling cap he could concevably beat him is feigning weakness, Batman wouldwill pick HIS time on HIS terms to beat the s **** outta C(r)ap

[saint sinner x]

batman has beaten enough people to make up my mind that batman can beat anyone in the marvel universe with some exception of course i mean batman did beat superman,clayface,mr.freeze,bane,richard dragon,white martians,prometheus,daredevil,

[GL1]

Can you even beat fanboy stupidity?

I'm not above being informed, and it certainly isn't my fault that Batman (not unlike Wolvie) is written as this infallible uberman...

[Infinity9999x]

batman has beaten enough people to make up my mind that batman can beat anyone in the marvel universe with some exception of course i mean batman did beat superman,clayface,mr.freeze,bane,richard dragon,white martians,prometheus,daredevil,

I dk about everyone in the marvel universe. How about magneto, professor x, glactus, silver surfer, Dr. Strange, Dr. Doom, Juggernot (w/ his stone can't member the name right now) just to name a few those guys aren't pushovers.

[Relentless_Bat]

maybe not, but the Bat would still find a way to beat MOST of them, the only one i think hed have real touble with are surfer, magneto and dr dtrange, but chances are good he could still come awy with the win, or at least, live to expose weaknesses another day

[ViscaBarcaInter]

DOOM would Al Cap-own Batman.

He would Pimp Batman's ass out for dimes, he is that superior to Batman.

You might have a case with the rest, though. :D

[CaptainStacy]

I used to always vote for Wolverine in these Bats vs Wolvie polls, but In Confereracy Of Dunces, we saw Daredevil incapacitate Wolverine by breaking Logan's windpipe... I believe DD also did quite well against a brainwashed Wolverine in a recent issue of Wolverine's own comic...we've also seen The Punisher totally own Wolverine on sheer resourcefulness.

I personally feel that Batman is a far better fighter than Daredevil, and much more resourceful than Frank Castle, so yeah, i really believe that Batman has an excellent chance of taking this one home.

[Infinity9999x]

[QUOTE=CaptainStacy I've also seen The Punisher totally own Wolverine on sheer resourcefulness.
[/QUOTE]

U better not b talkin bout that crap issue where the punisher drives over wolverine w/ a steam roller that was bull*****. Also wolver vs. punisher matchups are unrealistic, honestly if wolverine punched him he should be out for the count, I mean u gotta remember being hit by wolverine feels like being hit by a metal wall, and frank castle is just a normal guy he shouldnt even b able to contend w/ wolvie.

[CaptainStacy]

Oh, so if Wolverine loses, then it's "bull****", huh?

Ok.

[CorporalHicks]

I used to always vote for Wolverine in these Bats vs Wolvie polls, but In Confereracy Of Dunces, we saw Daredevil incapacitate Wolverine by breaking Logan's windpipe... I believe DD also did quite well against a brainwashed Wolverine in a recent issue of Wolverine's own comic...we've also seen The Punisher totally own Wolverine on sheer resourcefulness.

I personally feel that Batman is a far better fighter than Daredevil, and much more resourceful than Frank Castle, so yeah, i really believe that Batman has an excellent chance of taking this one home.

when did dd do that? I find it hard to believe.

[CaptainStacy]

Punisher #34 - Confereracy Of Dunces pt. 2

[Infinity9999x]

Oh, so if Wolverine loses, then it's "bull****", huh?

Ok.

No, I'm not saying it was dumb just cuz he lost, I'm saying it was a dumb issue, it felt like I was watching looney toones or sumthing. Idk i just didn't like how it was written, if they had come up w/ a better way for the Punisher to beat Wolverine then I wouldn't care, like maybe if he had done something like you mentioned w/ daredevil break his jugular or something like that, but that comic seemed like they just used wolverine as a bash-em up dummy. I mean he was still talking as his face got blown off by a shotgun, and then all he said was HEY! You no what I mean it just seemed campy, although the match up against the punisher in the Wolverine series wasn't that great either.

Don't get me mixed up w/ one of those fanboys who hates to see their guy lose, I just didn't like the way that issue was written.

[punishermax]

oh and batman said that it is conceivable that cap can beat him which means nothing at all it means is that there equal pretty much yet batman is more resourceful more smarter and pretty much has more experience.......
In your last post you said that Bats beats Cap, here you say that he says they are equal. Do you like contradicting yourself on purpose or are you just that clueless.

[TheS4ndman]

thunder strikes both dies the end

[CorporalHicks]

Captain America didnt train wolverine

[brainchild81]

I used to always vote for Wolverine in these Bats vs Wolvie polls, but In Confereracy Of Dunces, we saw Daredevil incapacitate Wolverine by breaking Logan's windpipe..One different factor in that fight is that DD went into it knowing about Wolvies healing factor and how powerful it is. Bats won't have that advantage.

[saint sinner x]

In your last post you said that Bats beats Cap, here you say that he says they are equal. Do you like contradicting yourself on purpose or are you just that clueless.


ahahhhahahhhaahahahahahahhh your a funny dude it's too bad you dont read all of the post.

[CorporalHicks]

ahahhhahahhhaahahahahahahhh your a funny dude it's too bad you dont read all of the post.

you sir, are a moron

[saint sinner x]

you sir, are a moron

sorry but i dont care what fat people like you say so seeya.....

[CorporalHicks]

sorry but i dont care what fat people like you say so seeya.....

I think you just proved to everyone that you ARE a moron. Thanks buddy.

[saint sinner x]

no problem yet your a bigger moron by the way you ever heard of the atkins diet?
lmao

[Infinity9999x]

Saint, please try to refrain from the namecalling, it's extremely rude, just leave the argument alone.

Hicks, also, let the thing drop, and like I said please try to refrain from the namecalling.

[Arach Knight]

Like I said in the other version of this thread, Wolverine would win. Wolverine has the highest ranking fighting skill you can achieve by the numerical marvel system (from 1-7 on older marvel cards, in which Wolverine was rated a 7). He is trained in various martial arts and has been around on this earth for a minimum of 114 years. Despite this, he is in a physical condition that could be likened to a thirty year old. Wolverine has a healing factor and remarkable endurance. Claws are not his only attribute, and neither are unbreakable bones. Rather, his heavy weight and his bone density, are the matter at hand. One firm blow to Logans jaw, and Batman will bruise or break his hand on the adamantium. In kind, each non clawed punch from Wolverine, would be equally as devestating unless he pulled his punches. Batman is skilled no doubt. He is the greatest detective in comic books regardless of continuity and universe. But being a great dective will mean nothing in the face of physical confrontation in which the adversary might as well be invulnerable.

[CaptainStacy]

It's true Batman isn't aware of Logan's healing factor, but once the battle is underway, and he sees Wolverine recovering from any wounds Batman inflicts upon him, i'm pretty sure he'll figure it out.

He's figured out other character's abilities before during a battle. Lady Shiva, for example. Genius level intellect and all that, you know.

[ShadowBoxing]

:eek: what!! Wolvie's heart was taken out and still survived? :eek: talking about healing powers, so basically he can regenerate entire organs!!!! Wow!!!
Well!!! what can batman do against somebody with a healing ability of that magnitude and an adamentium covered skeleton!!!

In terms of wits....no comparison!!!! (sorry Wolvie)...although in the movies, they made him look very intelligent, he was the one who figured out Magneto's plan of using Rogue to power the machine.

Wolverine cannot regenerate entire organs....only non-lethal injuries. blow up anything vital and he is gone.

Plus Wolverine is not witless. In fact Wolverine is very smart and very cunning. His bezerker rage is something that is triggered by his troubled past, otherwise he is an extremely smart fighter. There is even a What if where he fights and beats a Weapon X (What if Wolverine were not Weapon X) with weaponry and his bare hands. Wolverine has extensive combat training for longer than Bats.

Batman is smart, is cunning, is logical, but Wolverine is smart enough not to fall for to many of his traps.

Wolverine wins this hands down

This is not a brains vs Brawn. This is Brains and Brawn vs Brains and Brawn with claws

[ShadowBoxing]

no problem yet your a bigger moron by the way you ever heard of the atkins diet?
lmao

I should point out that the atkins diet removes carbs thereby leaving your body to eat away at protien for energy, this eventually eats away at lean muscle mass. The Atkins diet in realty eats away at muscle tissue therefore all the weight you lose is muscle leaving you more unhealthy than when you started the diet. The key in diet is balance of Protiens, whole wheat and veggie carbs, and fats:joker:

[brainchild81]

It's true Batman isn't aware of Logan's healing factor, but once the battle is underway, and he sees Wolverine recovering from any wounds Batman inflicts upon him, i'm pretty sure he'll figure it out.

He's figured out other character's abilities before during a battle. Lady Shiva, for example. Genius level intellect and all that, you know.I haven't read one of their battles in a while, but the last time I seen him fight her, Robin had to help him. By the time he figures out anything Wolvie'd have already cut him from his a$$ to his appetite.

[Infinity9999x]

It's true Batman isn't aware of Logan's healing factor, but once the battle is underway, and he sees Wolverine recovering from any wounds Batman inflicts upon him, i'm pretty sure he'll figure it out.

He's figured out other character's abilities before during a battle. Lady Shiva, for example. Genius level intellect and all that, you know.

that's a good point, but if Wolverine really wanted to kill Batman would Batman be able to last long enough to notice his healing factor? knight brought up a good point wich I overlooked, if Batman hit wolverine he would break his hand most likely, in many comics Wolverine says "hittin me is like hitting a solid metal wall". I just think this would be a very hard fight for Batman to win.

[saint sinner x]

that's a good point, but if Wolverine really wanted to kill Batman would Batman be able to last long enough to notice his healing factor? knight brought up a good point wich I overlooked, if Batman hit wolverine he would break his hand most likely, in many comics Wolverine says "hittin me is like hitting a solid metal wall". I just think this would be a very hard fight for Batman to win.

but wouldn't the kevlar in batmans suit protect him a bit? and besides if batman finds out that wolverine is made out of metal he can easily take out a magnetic or EMP batarang lol another thing batman has long distance range wolverine doesnt once batman throws that magnetic batbomb and wolverine cant move no more he would probably poison him,remember people one must think like the bat.....

[brainchild81]

but wouldn't the kevlar in batmans suit protect him a bit? and besides if batman finds out that wolverine is made out of metal he can easily take out a magnetic or EMP batarang lol another thing batman has long distance range wolverine doesnt once batman throws that magnetic batbomb and wolverine cant move no more he would probably poison him,remember people one must think like the bat.....Kevlar providing protection up against Razor sharp adamantium? You can't be serious. If Wolvie's in the mood to kill, the JLA loses another member in the line of duty. Batman would find out that he's dying and that's about it. Poison him? Batman most likely doesn't have a poison that could kill Wolvie and if he did, he wouldn't want to use it.

[saint sinner x]

Kevlar providing protection up against Razor sharp adamantium? You can't be serious. If Wolvie's in the mood to kill, the JLA loses another member in the line of duty. Batman would find out that he's dying and that's about it. Poison him? Batman most likely doesn't have a poison that could kill Wolvie and if he did, he wouldn't want to use it.

well i only stated that because it help batman bones not to shatter while he was beating the crap out of superman here's a pic http://img61.exs.cx/img61/2057/super4.jpg

batman owns superman big time:)

[brainchild81]

And I'm glad because I think Superman sux. I see what you meant now. Protecting his hands from the adamantium bones? Yes. Protecting his body from the adamantium claws? No. I thought that "Big time" was my expression:) You owe me 5 cents now.

[saint sinner x]

And I'm glad because I think Superman sux. I see what you meant now. Protecting his hands from the adamantium bones? Yes. Protecting his body from the adamantium claws? No. I thought that "Big time" was my expression:) You owe me 5 cents now.

lol

[CorporalHicks]

[QUOTE=saint sinner x]well i only stated that because it help batman bones not to shatter while he was beating the crap out of superman here's a pic http://img61.exs.cx/img61/2057/super4.jpg
Are you aware that superman's weakness is kryptonite? And that it drains all of his powers? Therefor, anyone can beat superman with kryptonite

[Infinity9999x]

Saint--good point w/ the kelvar, that would protect him a bit, but also if wolverine hit him in the jaw that would do considerable damage, (claws extended or not)

If Batman did have some sort of magnetic Batarang type weapon that could help him, but he would have to have it create some sort of magnetic feild to hold wolverine down in a certain area, My guess would Bats would only have a type of magnetic Batarang that would magnetically attach itself to metal and maybe explode. Which could do considerable damage, but of course, Batman would only want to use that Batarang once he found out it wouldn't kill Wolverine, and He would have to notice this in Battle before recieving any leatheal wounds.

[saint sinner x]

Saint--good point w/ the kelvar, that would protect him a bit, but also if wolverine hit him in the jaw that would do considerable damage, (claws extended or not)

If Batman did have some sort of magnetic Batarang type weapon that could help him, but he would have to have it create some sort of magnetic feild to hold wolverine down in a certain area, My guess would Bats would only have a type of magnetic Batarang that would magnetically attach itself to metal and maybe explode. Which could do considerable damage, but of course, Batman would only want to use that Batarang once he found out it wouldn't kill Wolverine, and He would have to notice this in Battle before recieving any leatheal wounds.

true....but the batman is no fool once he strikes wolverine and see that wolverine can heal than he will notice but only if batman strikes and it's gonna be pretty hard to hit batman i mean he did master 120 different styles of martial arts.

[Ultra-Spidey]

I'll give you bat-fans one thing, you guys are hard-core fans, and I do mean HARD-CORE. There is nothing wrong with being down for your favorite hero but some of you guys are downright delusional. Just to show you what I mean just go here and see what I mean.
http://comics.ign.com/articles/601/601634p13.html
http://comics.ign.com/articles/609/609858p1.html
Now im a huge Spidey fan but i'll be the first to admit there is no way he could be Superman. Superman is like the ultimate hero as far as powers/abilities go, its just unfair. I mean what powers doesn't he have, which is why I personally don't like Supes, he's just perfect. Oh, and the scans of that comic posted above, I have that issue and Batman does state that "if Clark wanted to, he could use his superspeed and squish me into the cement" and "He can't be stopped". I mean come on guys, Batman is a cool comic hero and all but he is just a mere human that cannot simply compete with the likes of aliens, mutants, or whatever. People say that he's soo smart and given prep time he could beat....I mean come on now people, he isn't thy smartest hero in all of comics now. And give other heroes/opponents prep time and im sure they stand a good chance vs Batman. Im not here to bash on Batman or the fans, Batman is one of the coolest comic book heroes ever and you guys are loyal fans. Im just trying to make you guys think logically here. It just seems that some of your guys devotion is blinding some of you to the truth, Batman can kick a** in his own universe but mix him up with characters from another universe and Batman would just get his a** handed right back to himself.

[CaptainStacy]

I'm not saying that Batman is the "end all, BE all" of comic heroes. Never said Bats was the "smartest", or anything else... Just that in this particular case, when i've seen Wolverine defeated by the likes of Daredevil, and lame asses like Catman and Vindicator, i believe that Batman has just as much probability, (if not more) than THEY do, in winning a pitched a battle with Logan.

By the way; Batman has indeed "competed" with aliens (white martians), and mutants (that killer whale chick) before. Many times. And he's always come out on top.

[CLARKY]

I'll give you bat-fans one thing, you guys are hard-core fans, and I do mean HARD-CORE. There is nothing wrong with being down for your favorite hero but some of you guys are downright delusional. Just to show you what I mean just go here and see what I mean.
http://comics.ign.com/articles/601/601634p13.html
http://comics.ign.com/articles/609/609858p1.html
Now im a huge Spidey fan but i'll be the first to admit there is no way he could be Superman. Superman is like the ultimate hero as far as powers/abilities go, its just unfair. I mean what powers doesn't he have, which is why I personally don't like Supes, he's just perfect. Oh, and the scans of that comic posted above, I have that issue and Batman does state that "if Clark wanted to, he could use his superspeed and squish me into the cement" and "He can't be stopped". I mean come on guys, Batman is a cool comic hero and all but he is just a mere human that cannot simply compete with the likes of aliens, mutants, or whatever. People say that he's soo smart and given prep time he could beat....I mean come on now people, he isn't thy smartest hero in all of comics now. And give other heroes/opponents prep time and im sure they stand a good chance vs Batman. Im not here to bash on Batman or the fans, Batman is one of the coolest comic book heroes ever and you guys are loyal fans. Im just trying to make you guys think logically here. It just seems that some of your guys devotion is blinding some of you to the truth, Batman can kick a** in his own universe but mix him up with characters from another universe and Batman would just get his a** handed right back to himself.

:up:fair post.

[Infinity9999x]

I'm not saying that Batman is the "end all, BE all" of comic heroes. Never said Bats was the "smartest", or anything else... Just that in this particular case, when i've seen Wolverine defeated by the likes of Daredevil, and lame asses like Catman and Vindicator, i believe that Batman has just as much probability, (if not more) than THEY do, in winning a pitched a battle with Logan.

By the way; Batman has indeed "competed" with aliens (white martians), and mutants (that killer whale chick) before. Many times. And he's always come out on top.

good point

[Ultra-Spidey]

By the way; Batman has indeed "competed" with aliens (white martians), and mutants (that killer whale chick) before. Many times. And he's always come out on top.

White martians?? WHO???!! Killer Whale Chick?? WHAT???!!
If I said Spidey beat Baron Von Douche Bag on many occasions, would any one care??? No, he beat some no-name, b-list loser that was just created for the soul purpose of having our hero pound the living snot out of. When I said that Bats couldn't compete with aliens or mutants, I should of been more specific. In other words I meant an opponent like Superman (alien) or Wolverine (mutant), or for that fact take your pick of mutants in the Xmen universe. Yeah Wolverine may have lost a fight or two to Daredevil or to lame asses such as the Vindicator, but I mean come on, Wolverine can't win EVERYSINGLE fight. Even if it is against some b-list character, how fair is it to say that the underdog NEVER wins. Spidey has lost to The Beetle and The Tarantula, both b-list villians, does that mean he sucks?? No way!! Every character is bound to lose a fight one way or another to any given opponent. To determine a winner you'd have to look at both Bats and Wolvie's powers/abilities and their perspective rouge gallery. Wolvie's powers/abilities are obviously above Bats cuz he takes on bigger and tougher opponents. Bats doesn't even "fight" half his classic rouge list (Joker, Penguin, Riddler, Two-Face, Ivy) Put one of those guys in a ring, with say, Sabretooth. That ring would just be a pool of blood when its all over. And I just put ONE of Wolvie's villians against some of Batman's finest. Could Bats beat Wolvie in a fight?? He's capable of a victory, sure, no doubt. But in this fight Bats is the underdog and we all know who we place our bets on when the house is on the line.

[CaptainStacy]

Batman managed to hold his own for a bit against SEVERAL X-Men during All Access, and he pretty much flattened Bishop. Keep in mind that this was a comic sanctioned by both dc AND marvel. Does that still sound like "no'Name losers" or "B-list"? And seriously'; With the exception of Death In The Family, Batman has pretty much owned Superman every time they've locked horns. Doesn't matter if Bats was exploiting a weakness. That's what he DOES.

Also; i wouldn't consider the Hyper Clan (white martians) losers. They managed to divide and conquer the entire JLA. Except Batman.

I'd DEFINITELY place my money on Batman. He's a survivor.

[Alfie Luke]

^ Come on now...

It's like you live in a fantasy world with unicorns and fairies, where everyone is always happy and Batman is the greatest, most invincible hero of them all...

... Yay! :rolleyes:

We shouldn't try to figure out who would win by finding out who fought the toughest villains, it's just silly... We have to understand how they fight, why they fight, how they think and stuff like that.

I really like both characters... they are just awesome.
But come on now, Wolverine would simply OWN Batman... period.

End of discussion, you may close this thread now. :D

[CaptainStacy]

Yeah, but that's a two way street. To Batman fans, Wolverine fans are living in a fantasy world. And honestly, it's not what we "think" as much as what we've "seen". Sorry, but as a matter of fact; Batman HAS pulled off a large amount of victories making him indeed one of the "greatest, most invincible" heroes of all...he's certainly not lost half as many fights as Wolverine has. Hell, Wolverine got punked by Mariko's 70 year old father, lol.

And of course we shouldn't examine who would win by who has fought the toughtest opponents, because then you'd have no choice but to concede that Batman has the greater chance of walking away from this scenario as the victor.

Wolverine is no doubt, the most inconsistent character in comics. His first appearance he goes toe to toe with The Hulk, then get clobbered by one of the Ani-Men during his second appearance? What's up with THAT?

"Come on now", yourself.

[Infinity9999x]

^^ ya, wolverine is pretty inconsistent, really, it would all depend on the situation the heros where placed in if they decide to battle, I think both could win in a given situation.

[watsonlives]

I think that Batman would win because wolverine has some week points that few fans ever think about but Batman definitley would.
First, Wolverine will kill, but not without cause, unless he is in a beserker rage. That makes the quick ambush and "snickt" ending to the fight unlikley.
Second, wolverines admantuim skeleton can be a disadvantage against a thinking opponent. Metal conducts electricity, there fore a high voltage attack will be much more effective than any normal attack.
Third, the position of wolverines claws. becuse of where wolverines claws pop out on his hands, If batman can slap a pair of tight cuffs on him, wolverine can't cut them off.
Batman has a lot more advantages than you'd think he would, due to tactical thinking.

[Mr_N333]

Batman is smarter,Wolverine is stronger.

Its a question of brains vs. brawn.

Now,consider some people that Batman has fought:

Bane,Clayface,Killer Croc,and Superman.

Hes WON against these guys,and all of them are arguably stronger than he is.

Using that logic ALONE,I'd say Batman wins.


those are just little tales

if the situation was somehow brought to reality batman wouldn't stand a chance




:unishr:

[JokerBatman]

Nice!

[JokerBatman]

My Take - Batman would probably lose the first fight because, even though he is such a good fighter and quick on his feet, Wolverine is almost unbeatable with all of his goods. But Batman would win every fight after that. If Batman knows that Wolverine is now a threat to him, he will never be unprepaired again in normal circumstances.:joker:

[brainchild81]

Good post. IF Batman survives the 1st fight, he'd most likely win from that point on.

[MobiusX]

What the hell, Batman can't even beat the Hulk. Wolverine already beat the Hulk. Batman doesn't even stand a chance against Krillen from Dbz, who is probably the weakest Dbz character. Ryu and Ken from Street fighter can easily beat Batman. Wolverine would beat both Ryu and Ken at the same time. Batman doesn't stand a chance against many superheroes.

[Kal-El 8]

:wolverine :batman: OK who wins in a fight Batman or Wolverine? Personally I think Wolverine would if they were just in a hand to hand smackdown, but i Batman had enough time or knew he was going to fight Wolverine he'd win cuz he'd cook up sumthing.


Bat's would kick his ass. :batman:

[saint sinner x]

What the hell, Batman can't even beat the Hulk. Wolverine already beat the Hulk. Batman doesn't even stand a chance against Krillen from Dbz, who is probably the weakest Dbz character. Ryu and Ken from Street fighter can easily beat Batman. Wolverine would beat both Ryu and Ken at the same time. Batman doesn't stand a chance against many superheroes.

dude are you retarted or is your I.Q.level low anyways batman has defeated the hulk here's a pic buddy oh and batman has defeated the white martians which are way more powerful than wolverine.
http://dcversusmarvel.tripod.com/images/themes/bmhulk.jpg

and guess what? batman outsmart and beat his ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[brainchild81]

But all you need for the White Martians is a book of matches. If you got fire, they're really not that tough.

[saint sinner x]

But all you need for the White Martians is a book of matches. If you got fire, they're really not that tough.

true but the fact that the batman found out about it quik enough makes him more deadlier than wolverine i mean wolverine is not as smart as batman and wolverine would just fight reckless and probably he would get his ass kicked by batman.

[igotatromboner]

What the hell, Batman can't even beat the Hulk. Wolverine already beat the Hulk. Batman doesn't even stand a chance against Krillen from Dbz, who is probably the weakest Dbz character. Ryu and Ken from Street fighter can easily beat Batman. Wolverine would beat both Ryu and Ken at the same time. Batman doesn't stand a chance against many superheroes.

The fact you compare a classic character such as Batman to a crappy Japanese toy-fest cartoon with bad dialogue and mediocre action does in fact destroy all of your credibility in this subject.

Now run along little boy and let the men discuss this with thought.

[Infinity9999x]

true but the fact that the batman found out about it quik enough makes him more deadlier than wolverine i mean wolverine is not as smart as batman and wolverine would just fight reckless and probably he would get his ass kicked by batman.

well actually wolvie is a reckless fighter during his beserker rages, if he keeps his head calm he is a very precise and caculating fighter

[saint sinner x]

well actually wolvie is a reckless fighter during his beserker rages, if he keeps his head calm he is a very precise and caculating fighter

still i believe that batman is a more grounded fighter and he is always 2steps of the enemy

[brainchild81]

Unless it's Deathstroke?

[saint sinner x]

Unless it's Deathstroke?

for the last time people deathstroke and batman fought each other and it was a draw deathstroke didn't won and besides deathstroke would kill wolverine in a heartbeat.

[Infinity9999x]

for the last time people deathstroke and batman fought each other and it was a draw deathstroke didn't won and besides deathstroke would kill wolverine in a heartbeat.

actually he didn't. They fought eachother in a teen titans/x-men cross over. Wolverine got the drop on deathstroke once, wolvie snuck up behind him and asked him for a light and Deathstroke got pissed because he let someone sneek up on him, and then deathstroke got the drop on wolverin, I think it was like in a forest or something, but all he did to wolverine was like tackle him and throw him or something like that.

[Zues4Life]

Wolverine's only weapon is his claws and his helaing factor.Batman just has to throw about 4 little bombs at him and he's gone.

[Doombringer]

Wolverine's only weapon is his claws and his helaing factor.Batman just has to throw about 4 little bombs at him and he's gone.

You gotta be ****tin me, 4 little bombs?? They gotta be nothin short of thermo mini nukes to stop that bad boy (exaggerated of course) ... Logans been through much worse.

After all, he is the best at what he does...

As smart as Batman is, and as skilled as the Batman is, Wolverine just has the edge, hes a frickin unrelenting machine and is just as skilled if not more so... Hes lived for a 100+ yrs, been through wars, government experiments, has just as efficient training and more expierence, not to mention he is always training for any combat situations in the danger room, fights tougher foes more frequently, etc. You cant really use the Superman argument, cause hes always been prepared to take him out if necessary, as with the rest of the justice league.

Realistically, judging from one anothers physicallity and abilities and assuming they just happen to run into each other somewhere, Logan has all the tools he needs to take Bats out. Hes just as quick if not quicker and just as cunning, and unlike bats he dont mind guttin ya up if he sees fit. If he knew who Logan was before hand as he did Supes, then maybe he could edge out a victory but it certainly wouldnt be easy as some of you say. Logan doesnt exactly have a big weakness Bats could exploit as easily as Supes does with Kryptonite. Logan could smell and hear bats comin a mile away. Not to mention his heavy admantium laced body and claws, and the healing factor. Batman would have to use tools to take him out as well, i doubt he could physically manhandle him or fight him to put him down.

Just my 2 cents..

[brainchild81]

true but the fact that the batman found out about it quik enough makes him more deadlier than wolverine i mean wolverine is not as smart as batman and wolverine would just fight reckless and probably he would get his ass kicked by batman.Bats didn't need to do much "finding out" he'd already had been up against Martians before.(Martian Manhunter)

[Henry Hill]

It depends a lot on the circumstances of the fight. The only way Batman would stand a chance if he knew in advance that Wolverine would be after him and he could gather information about him. Anything else and Wolverine would rip him apart. Of course, in a way Batman couldn't win since he's not willing to kill.

[saint sinner x]

It depends a lot on the circumstances of the fight. The only way Batman would stand a chance if he knew in advance that Wolverine would be after him and he could gather information about him. Anything else and Wolverine would rip him apart. Of course, in a way Batman couldn't win since he's not willing to kill.

we are talking about batman the most dirtiest fighter ever and yes you can quote me on that.He's more dirtier than wolverine witht the exception of the punisher anyways batman is skilled in all forms of martial arts according to wizard world. Yes i know that leapord blow won't hurt wolverine nor pressure points but body slamming and kicks and punches would help, besides wolverine healing factor is slow as hell and the batman has defeated people more stronger than wolverine:like bane and clayface heck even mr.freeze would give wolverine some challenge batman has more experience and batman dodge's bullet on a nightly basis he's not just some ordinary human like me and you he's something more he's something else entirely he's a symbol of fear and once batman punches wolverine in the face and he finds out that it's like hitting metal the batman would go to plan B which is chemical acid and chaff grenades look all im saying is batman has the advantage because he's the most resourceful being on earth simply because he has no powers the batman would win this one......

BATMAN HAS LONG DISTANCE RANGE GUYS WOLVERINE DOESN'T
http://dcversusmarvel.tripod.com/images/themes/bmw.jpg

[iceboy]

sory i didnt read al things
hmmmm
you cant compare batman and wolverine
is it posible to have metal bones ?
or is it posible to have knives in your hands ?
if it is than wolverine would win
when batman punches someone in the face than it hurts, but when wolverine than you die because it is like you would have a knife in the face
can you survive this ?

[saint sinner x]

sory i didnt read al things
hmmmm
you cant compare batman and wolverine
is it posible to have metal bones ?
or is it posible to have knives in your hands ?
if it is than wolverine would win
when batman punches someone in the face than it hurts, but when wolverine than you die because it is like you would have a knife in the face
can you survive this ?

your right you didn't read the whole thing gee let's see
a)i said that when batman punches wolverine in the face he will find out that he is made out of metal
b)batman is smarter
c)batman is much more resourceful
d)batman has taken out people more stronger than wolvie
e)wolverine has punched cyclops in the face before and it didn't killed him buddy............

[Doombringer]

we are talking about batman the most dirtiest fighter ever and yes you can quote me on that.He's more dirtier than wolverine witht the exception of the punisher anyways batman is skilled in all forms of martial arts according to wizard world. Yes i know that leapord blow won't hurt wolverine nor pressure points but body slamming and kicks and punches would help, besides wolverine healing factor is slow as hell and the batman has defeated people more stronger than wolverine:like bane and clayface heck even mr.freeze would give wolverine some challenge batman has more experience and batman dodge's bullet on a nightly basis he's not just some ordinary human like me and you he's something more he's something else entirely he's a symbol of fear and once batman punches wolverine in the face and he finds out that it's like hitting metal the batman would go to plan B which is chemical acid and chaff grenades look all im saying is batman has the advantage because he's the most resourceful being on earth simply because he has no powers the batman would win this one......

I respect what you have to say and all but, i have to disagree with you on somethings...

-dirtier than wolverine?? I guess your definition of playing dirty differs from mine... wolverine will and has done anything to get the job done in his favor, including killing the person(s) hes fighting. Thats one advantage that wolverine will have over Bats. He wont hold back... he doesnt care if he gets the **** kicked outta him cause he knows he can take it and survive if he in fact does get his ass kicked (which is rare). If you mean dirty like kicking you in the nuts dirty then id say wolverine is just as dirty as bats... just because bats uses tools and research that logan doesnt need to use doesnt necessarily make him a more dirty fighter. Hes only human he needs every advatage he can get.

-Wolverine doesnt need to be skilled in every form of combat known. Batman may cause hes human and because of that every bit of combat knowledge will help is circumstance and survive, but Wolverine aint a sloutch in the fighting department. He also knows many forms of combat. Wolverine has extraordinary hand to hand combat ability, and, alongside Captain America and Taskmaster, is considered one of the finest combatants on Earth. He may not know every style or form like bats may know but he doesnt need to know em all. Hes got his healing factor, metal laced skeleton, claws, etc. That more than makes up for his "lack" of combat knowledge.

-Logans healing factor slow?? :rolleyes: riiigghht, perhaps compared to the Hulk, but nevertheless its still an advantage. He heals a hundred times faster than a human, very slow indeed. This also helps him become immune to toxins, diseases, and gives him incredible endurance allowing him to fight for days without feeling fatigue. Again Batman is only human. His regenerative ability also gives him extremely fast reflexes and agility. Also, the enhanced tensile strength of his skeleton combined with his constant cellular regeneration grants him great physical strength, while his blows are weighted (similar to using brass knuckles) due to the presence of this metal.

-Logan doesnt need to dodge bullets, hes walked head on to machine gun fire before cause he knows he can handle it, the Punisher practically blew his face off with a shotgun i heard and he was still fighting and talking smack.

-Bane, clayface and mr freeze?? Try Juggernaut, Sabertooth, and Omega Red. I doubt Batman of al people can hang with these guys as he can with his rogue gallery. Bane practically killed him... Bane.

-Bats is an ordinary human, denial wont change that, hes just as human as Captain America. Just "peak" human... logan aint.

-Symbol of fear?? Maybe to a normal street thug, but Wolverine aint gonna cower away from a man dressed up as a bat. Especially after the people he fights and everything hes seen in his long lifetime. Id be more afraid to go against Wolverine than Batman...

-Logans beserker rage also may not be a disadvantage :rolleyes: it could be, but it also could help him just as it could hurt him.

Im not saying Batman doesnt have a chance, sure he does... just not as easily as perhaps some people make it out to be.

[saint sinner x]

I respect what you have to say and all but, i have to disagree with you on somethings...

-dirtier than wolverine?? I guess your definition of playing dirty differs from mine... wolverine will and has done anything to get the job done in his favor, including killing the person(s) hes fighting. Thats one advantage that wolverine will have over Bats. He wont hold back... he doesnt care if he gets the **** kicked outta him cause he knows he can take it and survive if he in fact does get his ass kicked (which is rare). If you mean dirty like kicking you in the nuts dirty then id say wolverine is just as dirty as bats... just because bats uses tools and research that logan doesnt need to use doesnt necessarily make him a more dirty fighter. Hes only human he needs every advatage he can get.

-Wolverine doesnt need to be skilled in every form of combat known. Batman may cause hes human and because of that every bit of combat knowledge will help is circumstance and survive, but Wolverine aint a sloutch in the fighting department. He also knows many forms of combat. Wolverine has extraordinary hand to hand combat ability, and, alongside Captain America and Taskmaster, is considered one of the finest combatants on Earth. He may not know every style or form like bats may know but he doesnt need to know em all. Hes got his healing factor, metal laced skeleton, claws, etc. That more than makes up for his "lack" of combat knowledge.

-Logans healing factor slow?? :rolleyes: riiigghht, perhaps compared to the Hulk, but nevertheless its still an advantage. He heals a hundred times faster than a human, very slow indeed. This also helps him become immune to toxins, diseases, and gives him incredible endurance allowing him to fight for days without feeling fatigue. Again Batman is only human. His regenerative ability also gives him extremely fast reflexes and agility. Also, the enhanced tensile strength of his skeleton combined with his constant cellular regeneration grants him great physical strength, while his blows are weighted (similar to using brass knuckles) due to the presence of this metal.

-Logan doesnt need to dodge bullets, hes walked head on to machine gun fire before cause he knows he can handle it, Punisher blew practically blew his face off with a shotgun i heard and he was still fighting and talking smack.

-Bane, clayface and mr freeze?? Try Juggernaut, Sabertooth, and Omega Red. I doubt Batman of al people can hang with these guys as he can with his rogue gallery. Bane practically killed him... Bane.

-Bats is an ordinary human, denial wont change that, hes just as human as Captain America. Just "peak" human... logan aint.

-Symbol of fear?? Maybe to a normal street thug, but Wolverine aint gonna cower away from a man dressed up as a bat. Especially after the people he fights and everything hes seen in his long lifetime. Id be more afraid to go against Wolverine than Batman...

-Logans beserker rage also may not be a disadvantage :rolleyes: it could be, but it also could help him just as it could hurt him.

Im not saying Batman doesnt have a chance, sure he does... just not as easily as perhaps some people make it out to be.

ok cool i respect your opinion as well but all im saying is that batman isn't easily defeated if wolverine is gonna kick the bat's ass it's gonna take a pretty danm long time and by the time wolverine thinks he has bat's on the floor that's when bats realize he isn't just human(wolverine) also bat's has defeated superman,general zod,darkseid,and of course the white martians which are stronger and more elite than wolverine but it's all good batman still has a chance.....

[Doombringer]

Hmm I also think IMO the reason Batman beat Superman and the rest of the justice league for that matter is cause hes always been prepared to beat them. Know your enemy as well as your ally thats mainly how batman always wins next to his skill. Superman gave him that Kryptonite ring in case he someday went bad didnt he? Superman is one powerful being, the way batman thinks im sure hes always had on file ways to take down his friends in case they were ever used as weapons. Besides im sure through his teamates hes also found out the ways to beat their enemies in case one day he had to himself. Hes done his homework no doubt. But he doesnt know wolverine at all, he would be totally un prepared to fight him as he would say Supes, and like ive said, wolvie doesnt have a big weakness to exploit like supes does with kryptonite...

Has there ever been a fight on record with these two goin at it? I want to see this fight now :p

[Infinity9999x]

ok cool i respect your opinion as well but all im saying is that batman isn't easily defeated if wolverine is gonna kick the bat's ass it's gonna take a pretty danm long time and by the time wolverine thinks he has bat's on the floor that's when bats realize he isn't just human(wolverine) also bat's has defeated superman,general zod,darkseid,and of course the white martians which are stronger and more elite than wolverine but it's all good batman still has a chance.....

that's more the way I would go, I don't think wolverine would beat batman easily, but I think they would go at it like the two tought Bas*ards they are until Bat's finally wore down.

[igotatromboner]

Hand to hand, it's no contest. Wolverine would stomp Bats after awhile. But if Bats has prep-time Wolverine will get his ass handed to him.

[Henry Hill]

I practically agree with everything Doombringer said so I guess a response from me isn't needed.

[American_Idiot]

Post this on the X-Men forums and see who's favor it leans toward.

I'm a Batman fan so naturally, I believe he could take Wolvie out. He's taken on bigger, badder, and tougher. If Batman can beat Superman (using strategy) then he can beat about anyone.

Now what if some of their enemies were to face off against one another; such as Killer Croc or Bane VS Sabretooth, Man-Bat VS Sauron, or Lady Shiva VS Lady Deathstrike???

[aquiles]

batman would put him out of hes misery.

[aquiles]

batman beat superman,superman beats wolverine easily
so batman beats wolverine s ass

[Henry Hill]

batman beat superman,superman beats wolverine easily
so batman beats wolverine s ass

Only because he has kryptonite and Supes holds back.

[saint sinner x]

Only because he has kryptonite and Supes holds back.

superman didn't hold back in hush series,and he still got his ass kicked by batman

[Rowen]

Bruce timm & stan lee should get together & animate batman & wolverine fighting each other. they could create a storyline revolveing around these two. it could be a staright to dvd movie. this would be awsome if this happened.

[Guyverjay]

superman didn't hold back in hush series,and he still got his ass kicked by batman


LOL

Supes WAS holding back, do you have some sort of special Batman fan edition of the book:p

[Henry Hill]

superman didn't hold back in hush series,and he still got his ass kicked by batman

Uh-huh . . .


It's time you get your head out of your ass.

[saint sinner x]

Uh-huh . . .


It's time you get your head out of your ass.

lol it's been out and guess what buddy and everyone else that thinks wolverine can beat batman they already fought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i just picked up x-men vs justice leauge wovlerine fought batman and hmmm...gee guess who won BATMAN,BATMAN FREAKIN WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the issue is dc/mavel access #4 and in #3 batman was able to stall the whole x-men until the justice leauge came jesus christ you guys need to read this issue it's crazy......here's a pic

http://dcversusmarvel.tripod.com/images/themes/bmw.jpg

i always knew that the bat can take wolverine so in concludesion this thread is pointless because batman already defeated wolverine if any of you have a problem with that oh well deal with it:)

[Guyverjay]

lol it's been out and guess what buddy and everyone else that thinks wolverine can beat batman they already fought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i just picked up x-men vs justice leauge wovlerine fought batman and hmmm...gee guess who won BATMAN,BATMAN FREAKIN WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the issue is dc/mavel access #4 and in #3 batman was able to stall the whole x-men until the justice leauge came jesus christ you guys need to read this issue it's crazy......here's a pic

http://dcversusmarvel.tripod.com/images/themes/bmw.jpg
)

Oh you mean the same series of books that had freaking Bishop beat up J'onn J'onzz? or how about Venom owning Superman:rolleyes:


Geez I can't belive someone is actually using Marvel vs Dc as some sort of evidence, talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel:o

[saint sinner x]

Oh you mean the same series of books that had freaking Bishop beat up J'onn J'onzz? or how about Venom owning Superman:rolleyes:


Geez I can't belive someone is actually using Marvel vs Dc as some sort of evidence, talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel:o

ahahhahahahhahahhhahahha not exactly dc versus marvel and in a real fight im sure venom can handle superman all superman needs to do is open his big mouth:rolleyes:

[Henry Hill]

lol it's been out and guess what buddy and everyone else that thinks wolverine can beat batman they already fought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i just picked up x-men vs justice leauge wovlerine fought batman and hmmm...gee guess who won BATMAN,BATMAN FREAKIN WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the issue is dc/mavel access #4 and in #3 batman was able to stall the whole x-men until the justice leauge came jesus christ you guys need to read this issue it's crazy......here's a pic

http://dcversusmarvel.tripod.com/images/themes/bmw.jpg

i always knew that the bat can take wolverine so in concludesion this thread is pointless because batman already defeated wolverine if any of you have a problem with that oh well deal with it:)

First off, you sound as if you're more then a little too attached to this debate.

Second, from what I remember it's not even in continuity which IMO makes it a pretty stupid thing to go by.

Third, you're a dick.

P.S. I don't see any picture.

[saint sinner x]

First off, you sound as if you're more then a little too attached to this debate.

Second, from what I remember it's not even in continuity which IMO makes it a pretty stupid thing to go by.

Third, you're a dick.

P.S. I don't see any picture.

now now no need for name calling, just because i think batman can beat wovlerine doesn't mean im a dick your the dick for name calling people, just because there entitle to their own opinion and im only gonna say this once you better start making some sense or i'll report you to the mods then we'll see who will have the last laugh at the end idiot...

[CLARKY]

:eek: Saint sinner X
U're simply amazing!U're right there's no needfor name calling but I think if U hadn't this kind of attitude, U wouldn't have this kind of problem.


"I'll report U to the mods" ?!?!?

[saint sinner x]

:eek: Saint sinner X
U're simply amazing!U're right there's no needfor name calling but I think if U hadn't this kind of attitude, U wouldn't have this kind of problem.


"I'll report U to the mods" ?!?!?

he started clarky and i know i sound childish OH WELL...he started and now i'll end it i wouldn't have an attitude if he didn't had an attitude...

[TheJuice]

Batman wins, but only by a little bit. He's a stealth fighter with more tricks up his sleeve. Plus, Wolverine's healing power and anamentium (sp?) bone structure doesn't exactly make him invincible. He can easily die by drowning in a pool of water.

[Henry Hill]

he started clarky and i know i sound childish OH WELL...he started and now i'll end it i wouldn't have an attitude if he didn't had an attitude...

LOL! You sound like a third grader that gets mad when a kid calls him dumb out on the playground! You're a joke! I started it? You're the one who's being ignorant not to mention goddamn annoying with all of your stupid posts.

ahahhahahahhahahhhahahha not exactly dc versus marvel and in a real fight im sure venom can handle superman all superman needs to do is open his big mouth:rolleyes:

What an intelligent and thoughtful post.

P.S. You're a dick

@ thejuice

I suspect that he can swim.

[Selina_Kyle]

Batman will win of course ;] DUHH

[Henry Hill]

Batman will win of course ;] DUHH

And why do you think this?

Of course, this is a Batman board so I'm surprised that Wolverine got as far as he did. It would be very interesting to see how this would do on the X-Men boards.

[BatmanRules33]

wow.....this IS a tough question. i mean, there both ferosious fighters, so its a very difficult question. there both merciless fighters too. i wonder.......who would win? i'd have to give this some thought.....

[TheJuice]

Batman would play head games with Wolverine, purposely make him enraged to f**k himself up, make him sloppy. The art of fighing without fighting.

[Henry Hill]

You act as if Wolverine is stupid and completely unintelligent. He wouldn't "f**k himself up", he'd f**k Batman up.

[TheJuice]

Wolverine can't fight what he can't see. He could sniff him out, but that's about it.

[Henry Hill]

Wolverine can't fight what he can't see. He could sniff him out, but that's about it.

And how's Batman going to make sure Wolverine can't see? Heck, there's a better chance that Wolverine would stick his claws into Batman's eyes.

[saint sinner x]

LOL! You sound like a third grader that gets mad when a kid calls him dumb out on the playground! You're a joke! I started it? You're the one who's being ignorant not to mention goddamn annoying with all of your stupid posts.



What an intelligent and thoughtful post.

P.S. You're a dick

@ thejuice

I suspect that he can swim.

dear:henry hill, the legendary loser congradulations you just prove to everyone that your the biggest moron in here please enjoy your stay while it last if it even last at all ahahahhahhaha A)your a dick B)your a super queer and C)batman did and could beat the crap out of wolverine and so on...you dumb ass don't you realize you ugly troll that batman is a better,smarter and more resourceful fighter than wolvie you danm idiot your nothing but a jack ass,jack ass oh and hey jack ass you just won the stupid award for being dumb like your mother and your dead grandparents......poor loser get a life..

[Henry Hill]

dear:henry hill, the legendary loser congradulations you just prove to everyone that your the biggest moron in here please enjoy your stay while it last if it even last at all ahahahhahhaha A)your a dick B)your a super queer and C)batman did and could beat the crap out of wolverine and so on...you dumb ass don't you realize you ugly troll that batman is a better,smarter and more resourceful fighter than wolvie you danm idiot your nothing but a jack ass,jack ass oh and hey jack ass you just won the stupid award for being dumb like your mother and your dead grandparents......poor loser get a life..

Well, you just basically shot yourself in the foot and showed how immature you really are. I find it very amusing that you insult my family when you don't even know anything about them. I assume that you're about 10 years old since you use insults like "super queer":rolleyes: Like I said the story your talking about is not in continuity so I don't see why you even bother using it to back up your side. But then again, idiots make idiotic arguments.

[saint sinner x]

Well, you just basically shot yourself in the foot and showed how immature you really are. I find it very amusing that you insult my family when you don't even know anything about them. I assume that you're about 10 years old since you use insults like "super queer":rolleyes: Like I said the story your talking about is not in continuity so I don't see why you even bother using it to back up your side. But then again, idiots make idiotic arguments.

im actualy 18 and 6 foot 1 and no one messess with the saint sinner and im sure that your family is dumb as hell just like you:cool:

[Henry Hill]

im actualy 18 and 6 foot 1 and no one messess with the saint sinner and im sure that your family is dumb as hell just like you:cool:

And you expect me to believe you when you're posts resemble a 10 year old's? Give me a ****ing break. Hell, it's not like you have any evidence to back up what you're saying so it's goddamn useless. And you don't know my family so I find it hard to believe that you're sure their dumb.

[saint sinner x]

And you expect me to believe you when you're posts resemble a 10 year old's? Give me a ****ing break. Hell, it's not like you have any evidence to back up what you're saying so it's goddamn useless. And you don't know my family so I find it hard to believe that you're sure their dumb.

your such a loser it's not even funny you prick ass jack ass....like i said before go get a life and im not 10 years old that proves that your dumb me and my crew are laughing our ass off because of you oh and another thing your a dick:rolleyes:

[Infinity9999x]

ok guys, calm down now it's just a thread here. Lets try to keep our disagreements civil and refrain from name calling shall we?

[Guyverjay]

I'm glad I left this thead:D

One final note from me, without some sort pr prep time, Wolverine would KILL Batman. Batman has NOTHING that could put wolvie down (gets smacked arounf by the Hulk and still gets up for more) and forget running away to fihgt anouther day. Wolvie has tracked Spider-mans web slinging ass down . Bruce ain't going no where. But thats just my opinion of course:o

[TheJuice]

And how's Batman going to make sure Wolverine can't see? Heck, there's a better chance that Wolverine would stick his claws into Batman's eyes.

Batman uses the dark to his advantage. He's stealth, like a ninja.

[TheJuice]

LOL! You sound like a third grader that gets mad when a kid calls him dumb out on the playground! You're a joke! I started it? You're the one who's being ignorant not to mention goddamn annoying with all of your stupid posts.



What an intelligent and thoughtful post.

P.S. You're a dick

@ thejuice

I suspect that he can swim.


Swim? Listen douche bag, even the greatest of swimmers are capable of drowing. Wolverine is not invincible, he still needs to breath oxygen to live. F**k nut.

[Henry Hill]

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[Henry Hill]

Swim? Listen douche bag, even the greatest of swimmers are capable of drowing. Wolverine is not invincible, he still needs to breath oxygen to live. F**k nut.

Heh, and what makes you think that Batman will be able to put him in that situation? I find it very unlikely that he'd make sure that Wolverine wouldn't be able to breathe since he doesn't kill people. People don't just drown in case you didn't know "F**k nut".

Batman uses the dark to his advantage. He's stealth, like a ninja.

Just like Wolverine uses his speed, powers, and sense to his advantage.

your such a loser it's not even funny you prick ass jack ass....like i said before go get a life

I need to get a life? I'm not pouring all my efforts into this thread like you seem to be. You come across as a desperate 10 year old that doesn't know how to get his point across without using at least a dozen cuss words.

and im not 10 years old that proves that your dumb

Oh, I doubt that you're a six foot tall eighteen year old. You're definitely nowhere near that age and if you are then you need to consider going in a mental institute.

me and my crew are laughing our ass off because of you oh and another thing your a dick:rolleyes:

You're crew? Wow, sounds like something I'd hear from a Rapper in an MTV interview. If you do have a "crew", I'm not in the least bit affected if they're laughing at me since they're probably as immature and idiotic as you are.


I imagine it going something like this.

SSX: Yo dawgs, there's this loser kicking my ass on the internet.

Crew member # 1: Dawg, you need to let him know that were laughing at him.

SSX: Dawg, you so right.

Crew member # 2: Yeah, dawg, he know what he talkin' about.

SSX: Later dawgs, we can tell him that we learned how to jack off before he did.

[C. Lee]

Everybody better stop with the name calling right now!!

Henry....try to avoid calling people "dick" again...it's not nice.

saint sinner x.....you earned a weeks probation for your remarks. That is NOT the way to act...on here or in real life either.

[Infinity9999x]

thanks this was getting a bit out of hand.

[newmexneon]

Wolvie would hand batman his own head on a platter. There is nothing batman could do to hurt wolvie, what is he gonna do throw batarangs and some smoke bombs. This is a pathetic argument, wolverine is one of the most dangerous characters in the marvel universe, Batman is just a smart human and smarts is not gonna win this one.

[Howlett85]

And why do you think this?

Of course, this is a Batman board so I'm surprised that Wolverine got as far as he did. It would be very interesting to see how this would do on the X-Men boards.

uuh clearly everyone on this board has over-rated batman to the point where it makes me laugh. I came across this site accidently and by seeing all these inaccurate facts about wolverine just made me wanna join this site and prove everyone wrong. First and foremost anyone whos anyone knows wolverine is by far a better fighter than bats, unlike bats LOGAN HAS MASTERED EVERY FIGHTING STYLE ON EARTH !! If Batman tries stealth? It won't cut it, wolverine knows stealth, but wolverine doesn't need to use it because he'll just sniff him out. Here's the better part, batman HAS NOT FOUGHT ANYONE TOUGHER THAN WOLVERINE, if he has Batman wouldn't be alive. Bane? clayface? Mr.freeze?.. LMAO.. give me break, they're all a sundays work for Logan. OK ok, i'm boasting. Time to get down to plain facts. Batman's Gadgets: Batarangs, smoke bombs, grappling hook.. You gotta be kidding me. These all are basic nessesities Batman carries, That will not help him in anyway with Logan. Even so, let Batman prepare, he's not gonna find a weakness for Logan, unless he found a giant magnet.. lol.. which i sincerely doubt. Wolverine can't swim? HAHAHAHA !! ok, wolverine spent a part of his life out in sea as a Mercenary pirate- one job requirement: must be able to swim. Theres just so much more i could say, but i'm running short on time. When it all come down to it, in Logans eyes Batman's nothing more than a ROOKIE. Nuff said.

[captain_jimbo]

I voted Wolverine, because of his healing abilities, and Batman is after all just a regular human being. But I love how both characters are very similar.

[CConn]

I really don't see how Wolverine could lose to anyone.

...except Batman with some prep time.

[captain_jimbo]

I really don't see how Wolverine could lose to anyone.

...except Batman with some prep time.

Xavier or Magneto could probably destroy him too.

[Kool-Aid]

Batman wins. Hes got things that mess up Superman and Supergirl's senses among other things. With prep its over for Wolverine.

[Fantasyartist]

Personally, my money's on Wolverine(full disclosure: I'm a marvel fan) as he's more experienced than Batman!

Terry

[JTStarkiller]

http://premium1.uploadit.org/nikolas306/wolverine-vs-batman.jpg

http://www.massena.com/darrin/content/binary/batman-and-wolverine.jpg

http://www.horrigangang.com/images/halloween.jpg

I guess we'll know who wins after The Prestige comes out this October. :up:

[The Riddler]

batman cannot beat wolverine.

the dude's been shot, cut, ripped to shreads, ripped apart in half, reduced to skeleton, and has been smoking for god knows how long and he's still alive and kicking. the man's healing factor changes everything; not only that but wolverine is not a simple brute.

he's a trained samurai and a good fighter.

also, his sense of smelling is almost as good as a spider-sense in noticing irregularities.

[The Riddler]

Batman wins. Hes got things that mess up Superman and Supergirl's senses among other things. With prep its over for Wolverine.
get it through your thick skulls.

the kryptonians have a glaring weakness: kryptonite.

just because batman can kick superman's ass doesn't mean he can beat up on spider-man or wolverine.