Marvel Comics Character Tournament!!!

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

HOLOCAUST
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Holocaust.jpg (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/h/holocaustaoa.htm)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

ABOMINATION
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Abomination.jpg (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/a/abomination.htm)

[Sparta*]

Click on the pictures to read their bios, and please do so before voting.

[Langoth]

I'm going to go with Holocaust, but it would definately be close, very close.

Holocaust just has the slight advantage due to those nuclear bio microwave energy blasts (ouch), and the life drain.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1542

Better link for Holocaust's full powers now, as the Marvel Directory one tells you NOTHING of his current abilities.

Oh, and microwaves don't need heat to cook, so Abomination's resilience to temperature dones't help much.

[Sparta*]

I'm gonna give this one to the Abomination. He is incredibly resistant to injury, pain and disease (including extreme heat and cold) He has Hulk level strength, and his body can heal at a very fast rate. It definatley would not be an easy fight for either party, but I think Abominations strength advantage would help him take the win.

[Midnight Ice]

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1542

Better link for Holocaust's full powers now, as the Marvel Directory one tells you NOTHING of his current abilities.

His current abilities...you mean being dead? :xmen:

[Midnight Ice]

This is a tough one, but Id say Abomination. :xmen:

[KAD]

Nothing tough about it.

Abomination easy.

1. he isn't a mutant and
2. That suit of Holacaust's would be trash in a matter of minutes

[Mortified]

Im going for the fish hulk, abomination

[omega smith]

abomination: the suit would be crushed with one blow from abo. and once the shell is gone holocaust would decintegrate.

[Sparta*]

5 - 1 for the ABOM so far...

[Zoken]

Abomination. he's too resiliant. he'd get close enough to Holocaust then crack him open like an eggshell.

[citizenpain]

ABOMINATION! just because i have that marvel card that you used for the picture. :]

[PaleRider]

Abomination

[rex26]

Abomination

[White_Howling]

Holocaust

[sith martin]

hey sparta what about these matchups

deadpool vs wolverine
punisher vs wolverine
avengers vs x-men
black panther vs dr. doom

[citizenpain]

i like martin's suggestions but how about deadpool AND punisher vs. wolverine? and maybe somebody else, i dunno. whatever.

[Silver Sable]

Abomination

[taskmaster]

Abomination

[Phaedrus45]

For particular reasons, I have to pick Holocaust.

[JeanGrey[GR]]

Abomination

[mrvlknight21]

Abomination

[Jecht]

Holocaust

[rodhulk]

Abomination.

[1987olds442]

Great Match up :up:

My vote goes to Emil Blonsky (Abomination)...

[omega smith]

i like martin's suggestions but how about deadpool AND punisher vs. wolverine? and maybe somebody else, i dunno. whatever.

the punisher already whooped wolverines tail in the comic books.

[Sparta*]

15 - 4 for Abomination so far

[Langoth]

Thing is people, I would really appreciate it if you understood one thing about Holocaust.

Microwaves do not need heat to cook, he could turn Abomination into a smoldering pile of meat, remember this. And his microwaves are bio-nuclear, making them a little more powerful then the stuff your microwaves use :P

[Sparta*]

15 - 4 for Abomination is the final tally. Next battle in a minute...

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

M A G I K
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Magik.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

M A G M A
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Magma.jpg

[3dman27]

like the old song says
it would be MAGIK

[Midnight Ice]

Magik :xmen:

[Langoth]

Magik.

[Zoken]

Its Magik baby! while Magma may have raw elements at her beck and call, Magik is just more powerful and more skilled... plus she didn't get turned into a Mary-Sue in a video game. I'm not kidding, thats the one thing I didn't like about X-Men: Legends; they centered it around a Mary-Sue

[KAD]

Belasco's Protege all the way

[3dman27]

Its Magik baby! while Magma may have raw elements at her beck and call, Magik is just more powerful and more skilled... plus she didn't get turned into a Mary-Sue in a video game. I'm not kidding, thats the one thing I didn't like about X-Men: Legends; they centered it around a Mary-Sue
whats a mary sue?

[Nightwolf]

Magik

[Silver Sable]

Magma

[Black Panther]

Magma all the way!!!

[JeanGrey[GR]]

I say also Magma!:)

[rodhulk]

Magma.

[KAD]

You do realize Magik could telport andything Magama throws at her as well as Magma herself.

[PaleRider]

Magik

[Sparta*]

6 - 4 for Magik so far...

[Lady Stormcrow]

Magik

[Phaedrus45]

Magik. (Can't believe Magma even got four votes...)

[Union Jack]

magik.

[mrvlknight21]

Magma

[Kmack]

Magik

[vindrow]

Magick would rip magma a new one:)

[omega smith]

magick: too powerful

[Jecht]

Magik

[taskmaster]

Magik

[Sparta*]

13 - 5 is the final tally for MAGIK! next battle comin' up.....

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

I C E M A N
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Iceman.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

INVISIBLE GIRL
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/InvisibleGirl.jpg

[White_Howling]

have to say invisible woman...

[KAD]

Sue

[mrvlknight21]

Bobby Drake!

[Zoken]

are we talking at current strengths? I'd give it to Sue in a heart beat.

[rex26]

Sue Storm takes it, Ice has no effect on Force Fields

[Sparta*]

3 - 1 for Sue so far...

[Sparta*]

are we talking at current strengths? I'd give it to Sue in a heart beat.

I guess we're talkin' 90-95ish era

[ookami]

I'd have to go with Bobby.

[Son Of Logan]

I'll vote for Sue.

[PaleRider]

Invisible WOman

[3dman27]

susie

[Union Jack]

invisible woman.

[Langoth]

Iceman is potentially one of the most dangerous mutants around.

Bobby.

[Silent]

I was gonna marry a girl named Susan, and my last name is Storm.... so, Susan Storm took my heart and ran over my nuts!!!!


BOBBY DRAKE PW3NS!!!!!
I won't my nuts back!

[PaleRider]

Iceman is potentially one of the most dangerous mutants around.

Bobby.
Invisible Woman is one of the more powerful heros on the planet, she is very over looked sometimes.

[omega smith]

Iceman would freeze her brain before she could react. and we all know that's what the fantastic four are infamous for; REACTING instead of ACTING. Now I think we all know sue has a limit to her powers and then begins to get weak after an intense use of her psionic abilities. And we all know that Iceman is to, (correction), way to smooth to let that pretty peice of ass kill him. Iceman wins in a 4hour battle to the death baby.

[taskmaster]

iceman

[Sparta*]

7 - 6 for the Invisible Woman so far...

[Silver Sable]

Iceman

[JeanGrey[GR]]

Sue

[vindrow]

Iceman

[Sparta*]

8 - 8 !!

[A_French_Gal]

Drake

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

My Boy Bobby

[Kmack]

Invisible Woman

[Jecht]

iceman

[PaleRider]

it always bothers me when people think these fights are to the death, frankly if either one of these charcters killed the other it would be completely out of character, and dumb.

[A_French_Gal]

it always bothers me when people think these fights are to the death, frankly if either one of these charcters killed the other it would be completely out of character, and dumb.

Umm... fighting each other at all is pretty out of character as it is.

This is just more of a "What if...?" Sort of thing. And as far as anybody seems to be concerned, it's a "What if they fought to the bitter end?"

[Sparta*]

11 - 10 for Bobby so far... (I just recounted and I missed a vote for Sue before)

I wanna wait for Midnight_Ice to vote before I wrap this battle up...just cause its Iceman, I gotta show some respect :D

[White_Howling]

it always bothers me when people think these fights are to the death, frankly if either one of these charcters killed the other it would be completely out of character, and dumb.


it bothers you when people use their imagination?? i view it as fights till one of them k.o's the other person.. i'm speaking for myself and not the others

[PaleRider]

yeah it does kinda bother me when people conclude a fight by making 1 or both characters act completely out of character. Like when people (no one specific on here but I have seen this on all VS. and a few times in this thread) say something like for example, Cap would just throw his sheild and chop Batmans head off, yes that does kinda bother me.

[Midnight Ice]

11 - 10 for Bobby so far... (I just recounted and I missed a vote for Sue before)

I wanna wait for Midnight_Ice to vote before I wrap this battle up...just cause its Iceman, I gotta show some respect :D
Thanks Sparta*, I owe ya one!!

My vote goes to Iceman. His ice may not have an effect on forcefields, but there are countless other things that he could do. If he didn't go with the freezing the brain route, cause that would be outta character, he could simply freeze her nose and mouth so she couldn't breath. Then she faints into unconsciousness, then Bobby would allow her to breath again. Another thing to consider is that the worst she could do to Bobby is shatter him, and even that would be hard for her to do. And if that were to happen, then he just reforms and laughs at her. Eventually she would get way too tired. And if shetried to stay in a forcefeild the whole time, Bobby would just keep the air in the feild getting colder and colder untill she came out. Man, there are countless ways Iceman would win, countless :xmen:

[Darth Hyperion]

I'm new to this thread so hear me out. Even if Sue can block ice with her force field she still has to breath. Iceman would just freeze the moisture in the air of the force field. She passes out Iceman walks away.

My vote Iceman

[Nightwolf]

Iceman

[Sparta*]

I'm going to vote for Bobby as well bringing the final tally to 15 - 10 for ICEMAN!!

Next battle shortly...

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

ARCHANGEL
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Archangel.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

B E A S T
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Beast.jpg

[Sparta*]

**Archangel with metal wings

[omega smith]

I'D say beast. Just b/c, with his acrobatic skills, he would dodge every attempted attack archangels' swooping ass trys to hand out. He might not be a tactician but, he is a genius and would calculate exactly the angle and speed in which to take his flying team-mate out.

[omega smith]

oh yeah, and if it were dark beast, it wouldn't be a contest.

[Silver Sable]

Beast

[Nightwolf]

Archangel

[PaleRider]

Archangel

[kamesan]

That's a tough one, but I'll be biased & pick Archangel.

[Sparta*]

3 - 2 For Archangel so far...

[taskmaster]

what have I told you about posting tough battles on the weekend sparta*. Thinking is for school and work. UMMMMMMMM I'll say archangel.

[Sparta*]

haha sorry Taskmaster :p

If its any consolation...its the weekend, and I'm at work right now :(

[Darth Hyperion]

I'm going with Beast. Between his physical abilities and his intelligence Warren wouldn't stand a chance.

[Darth Hyperion]

Sparta, have you had Hyperion fight anyone yet? And I mean the hard ass Exiles version, not the still hard but not as hard Supreme Power version.

[Sparta*]

4 - 3 for Archangel so far...

Yeah, I had a Hyperion fight, it was Count Nefaria VS Hyperion, but i've only used him once.

[JeanGrey[GR]]

Beast

[rodhulk]

Archangel.

[Nightwolf]

How about a Hyperion Vs. Gladiator match?

[Zoken]

Question about Beast!

Original big hands Beast, Blue Monkey Beast, or Tony the Tiger on Barbituates Beast?

[Sparta*]

Question about Beast!

Original big hands Beast, Blue Monkey Beast, or Tony the Tiger on Barbituates Beast?

Unless otherwise stated, the character is always what is shown in the picture. So in this case Blue Monkey Beast and Archangel with metal wings.

[Sparta*]

5 - 4 for Archangel so far.....

[Zoken]

Beast, in that case.

sorry, you made a point to specify with Warren so I though I should ask.

[Patriot]

Archangel and the last battle iceman.

[Sparta*]

6 - 5 for Archangel...this has been one for one all day...

[Darth Hyperion]

Hyperion vs Gladiator would be tight. But in Exiles #45 Hyperion said he defeated Galactus. Granted it's a alternate version of Hyperion just the fact that he has the potential to defeat Galactus 1 on 1 tells me that Gladiator would be a little more than nuisance.

[KAD]

Beast

[Sparta*]

Looks like i'm gonna have to throw down a vote for my homeslice Archangel :up:

[Sparta*]

7 - 6 for Warren so far...

[Zoken]

**laughs at the homeslice comment**

[Sparta*]

haha I thought you guys would like that

[Zoken]

Well it reminds me of the Debate team I was on in GA. somehow, in a region that was 50% or better black, we somehow had an all white debate team. we self mocked by using titles such as "Homeslice" "Dawg" and "Homeskillet" and acting like "******s" (You know, White people who think they're black)

[Kmack]

Archangel

[vindrow]

Beast

[Jecht]

beast

[Scorpion]

Archangel would destroy the Beast. He was one of Apocolypse's Four Horsemen. He became a warrior and ruthelss. He has huge metal wings that will slice and dice and can fire metal feathers. Angel might loose,...but Archangel,...the battle is his.

[brainchild81]

Ditto. Archangel wins.

[Sparta*]

10 - 8 is the final tally for ARCHANGEL!! :up: :up:

Next battle comin' up...

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

THE WASP
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Wasp.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

SHADOWCAT
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Shadowcat.jpg

[Lady Stormcrow]

erm...
wasp

[Zoken]

Shadowcat... but does the one we're talking about have her demon ninja power?

[3dman27]

waspie

[JeanGrey[GR]]

wasp!

[White_Howling]

shadowcat..... kitty for sure

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Shadowcat

[Harlekin]

Wasp

[vindrow]

Shadowcat

[Nightwolf]

Kitty

[POWdER-man]

ummm....shadowcat

[Kmack]

Shadowcat

[Silver Sable]

Shadowcat

[taskmaster]

shadowcat

[A_French_Gal]

Wasp.

[Sparta*]

I'm gonna say the Wasp as well. Shadowcat might be able to avoid the Wasp's attacks for a while, but she won't be able to do much offensively to harm the wasp. Shadowcat gets tired of phasing, and gets hit with one full powered blast from the wasp, and shes out.

[Sparta*]

9 - 6 for Shadowcat so far...

[Jecht]

wasp

[Darth Hyperion]

I'm going with wasp.

[vindrow]

All Kitty has to do is phase through waspie and she would fry the synapsis in wasp's brain or knock out her nervous system and knock her out, since kitty's phasing plays havok with electrical systems which the brain and nervous system is, at least thes why i went with kitty.

[A_French_Gal]

All Kitty has to do is phase through waspie and she would fry the synapsis in wasp's brain or knock out her nervous system and knock her out, since kitty's phasing plays havok with electrical systems which the brain and nervous system is, at least thes why i went with kitty.

Have you ever tried swatting something out of the air like that with your hands? Basic instincts of a regular wasp make it damn near impossible to hit. Now put someone that size, who's faster than one of those things, and more maneuverable than one of those things who KNOW danger is coming.

[Sparta*]

9 - 8 for Shadowcat so far.....

[vindrow]

Have you ever tried swatting something out of the air like that with your hands? Basic instincts of a regular wasp make it damn near impossible to hit. Now put someone that size, who's faster than one of those things, and more maneuverable than one of those things who KNOW danger is coming.


True, but if we are talking the Kitty that has had the ninja training and such, I can see her doing it.

[A_French_Gal]

Wasp is no slouch in that department. She knows how to maneuver and such. You're putting the Wasp as no more than a common wasp that bases it's movement on barometric pressure.

[Zoken]

GIRL-FIGHT!

........

I'm sorry, that was uncalled for. and I still haven't seen you know who.... (Fake pouts)

[White_Howling]

True, but if we are talking the Kitty that has had the ninja training and such, I can see her doing it.


Kitty has Lockheed :up: :up: .. bye bye wasp

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Um...are We Gonna Find Out Who Won. Also, I Love This Thread.

[Patriot]

Shadowcat.

[Sparta*]

Shadowcat doesn't have her Ninja powers or Lockheed

10 - 8 for Shadowcat.....

[Patriot]

Hey sparta I can't find the marvel trivia thread could you get me a link?

[Zoken]

hold up! saying that Kitty doesn't have Lockheed, is like saying Squirrel Girl isn't allowed to have any squirrels.... while thats not really that big of a disadvantage for her, still, its not fair. the two of them go together.

its just not right.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

He's Right Ya Know

[Patriot]

Yeah kitty should have lockheed! Its like going home and your dogs not being there(and I have three so I should know).

[Zoken]

Thats like telling He-Man to fight without.... that damn green tiger he shoots up with steroids.... what the hell is his name?

[Sparta*]

Hey sparta I can't find the marvel trivia thread could you get me a link?

The Trivia or the Who Am I?

Alright fine, Shadowcat can have Lockheed, but she ain't no ninja

[White_Howling]

i agree with all of the above.. they've been together for the longest time..

any why are you taking away her ninja power?

[A_French_Gal]

This is meant to be the abilities of the Wasp and Kitty from the 90's era.

[Sparta*]

Um...are We Gonna Find Out Who Won. Also, I Love This Thread.

Its not over quite yet...

and THANKS! :D I don't mind this thread either ;)

[Zoken]

I can understand the with holding of Kitty's demon ninja powers, those were taken away after she fought off... that thing. her Ninja powers were temporary, like the black spidey suit.

[White_Howling]

well even before the 90's kitty was trained by wolverine in self defense..

and why are you limiting the era?

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

I Liked The Black Spidey Suit.

[Zoken]

thats different, that basic martial arts skills, which Wasp probably has too. BUT, we're talking about when Kitty was turned into a demon samurai.

[White_Howling]

well even before the 90's kitty was trained by wolverine in self defense..

and why are you limiting the era?


forget the 2nd question.. its pretty useless asking a person who didn't create the thread a question... so any way

Sparta you limit the heroes/villians era?

[White_Howling]

thats different, that basic martial arts skills, which Wasp probably has too. BUT, we're talking about when Kitty was turned into a demon samurai.

i know.. but she still retains ninja skills (from training with logan).

[Sparta*]

i agree with all of the above.. they've been together for the longest time..

any why are you taking away her ninja power?

What the hell is this ninja power??!!! Is this something new? because I don't read new comics, i'm too afraid. In all my battles the characters are from the 1995 and before era because tahts when I stopped reading comics. No characters have any abilities that they gained after 95

EDIT - She has her regular fighting skills that she gained from Logan, but not demon ninja powers

[Patriot]

The Trivia or the Who Am I?

The Who Am I.

[PaleRider]

Shawdowcat.

[Zoken]

at one point, I guess recently, Kitty was possessed by some Japanese demon and sent to kill Logan. in this form she was trained to be a Demon Ninja. she does have some basica martial arts defense skills, but not enough to call her a ninja.

[White_Howling]

What the hell is this ninja power??!!! Is this something new? because I don't read new comics, i'm too afraid. In all my battles the characters are from the 1995 and before era because tahts when I stopped reading comics. No characters have any abilities that they gained after 95

EDIT - She has her regular fighting skills that she gained from Logan, but not demon ninja powers


:( most of the heroes never gain new powers.. but still there were some changes like spiderman, rogue, and a couple of the x-men

[Sparta*]

The Who Am I.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6761044#post6761044

[Sparta*]

:( most of the heroes never gain new powers.. but still there were some changes like spiderman, rogue, and a couple of the x-men

Yeah, I know...and it's all garbage.

Anyone in my thread doesn't have any powers beyond the year 1995. Sorry, but thats just the way it is. I hate what marvel is doing to my favorite characters.

Rogue doesn't control flame, shes just good old fashioned strong/flying Rogue. Archangel's blood doesn't heal people etc etc

[Zoken]

Sparta... your a republican aren't you... just kidding!

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

yeah, i loved ms. marvel rogue. that's the only way i ever knew her. she was strong and badass

[Sparta*]

Sparta... your a republican aren't you... just kidding!

hahahaha

yeah, i loved ms. marvel rogue. that's the only way i ever knew her. she was strong and badass
Amen brother

[Zoken]

you just seem so conservative when it comes to changes in the marvel universe. they have to change things up otherwise only two things occur: accidental reruns, or two; stagnation and cancelation.

[Sparta*]

you just seem so conservative when it comes to changes in the marvel universe. they have to change things up otherwise only two things occur: accidental reruns, or two; stagnation and cancelation.

I just don't like it...thats all. I'm not afraid of change...i'm afraid of crappy change. Why do I need to read comics that have my favorite characters not acting like themselves when I have over 40 years of good comics I actually like and am willing to read? I could read comics from 1945-1995 for the rest of my life, and still not have read them all...thats more then enough for me...call it what you want...I call it personal preference.

[Patriot]

Thanks sparta.

[Zoken]

whimpers and backs away.

[Sparta*]

whimpers and backs away.

hahaha, damn right! jj I didn't mean any disrespect, I was just sayin'

[White_Howling]

I just don't like it...thats all. I'm not afraid of change...i'm afraid of crappy change. Why do I need to read comics that have my favorite characters not acting like themselves when I have over 40 years of good comics I actually like and am willing to read? I could read comics from 1945-1995 for the rest of my life, and still not have read them all...thats more then enough for me...call it what you want...I call it personal preference.


i would call it inability to adapt..

i find most of the characters more entertaining today.. the only problems i have is when marvel tries to introduce bull**** characters like sentry and say hes better than the rest of the universe.. or saying gwen had affairs.. thats just isn't right

[Sparta*]

Inability to adapt?! I had no problem adapting with the characters from the 60's to the 70's to the 80's and to the 90's...they changed and I was okay...so I dont have an inability to adapt. I have the inability to adapt to garbage is more like it.

[White_Howling]

so your saying that every change is bad? like the story arc where spiderman becomes more beast than man? or wolverine losing his metal? xavier having a sister? (Wait that was bad)

[Sparta*]

Wolverine losing his metal is in my good era (or close enough for me to count)
Xaviers sister is retarded. Nightcrawler being the son of the devil is retarded. Gambit being Cyclops brother or whatever - retarded.

Inferno
Dark Phoenix Saga
Mutant Massacre etc - Amazing

[Zoken]

yeah but you're missing a lot in the newer titles. Runaways, Exiles, New X-Men: Academy X.

[Sparta*]

Name one X-men storyline from 2000-current that tops any of the ones I mentioned?

[Zoken]

X-men aren't my main title, I wouldn't be able to.

[Sparta*]

I just think they're running out of ideas I guess...I still love the characters...I just dont like what they're doing to them...and the new history they're giving them

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Astonishing ANYTHING? ok, maybe not but what about Phoenix-Endsong?

[Zoken]

But like I said, there are some wonderful NEW titles out there that you should try. plus heroes who haven't been mentioned since your time frame have been given a second chance (GLA and Squirrel Girl)

[Sparta*]

Astonishing ANYTHING? ok, maybe not but what about Phoenix-Endsong?

I don't know much about that

[Sparta*]

But like I said, there are some wonderful NEW titles out there that you should try. plus heroes who haven't been mentioned since your time frame have been given a second chance (GLA and Squirrel Girl)

yeah Runaways sounds cool, lots of people say good stuff about that...but when I spend $ on comics I usually just buy old ones from Ebay to add to my collection

[White_Howling]

Astonishing ANYTHING? ok, maybe not but what about Phoenix-Endsong?

:up: :up:

first of all morrison took over the x-men in 2001 till 2004.. and some people hated it and some people liked it.

avengers on the other hand had tons of great story arcs

so did spiderman, daredevil, wolverine,

[Zoken]

you have to look to the future.

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

You Should Really Try Runaways. I Would Die Without It.

[Sparta*]

you have to look to the future.

Why?? I could buy old comics for the rest of my life and never have them all...why do I have to look to the future? There is enough history from 45-95 to keep someone happy a lifetime.

[White_Howling]

oh and besides astonishing... one word "ultimate"

[Sparta*]

I really don't care for the Ultimate characters....especially Ultimate X-men

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Why?? I could buy old comics for the rest of my life and never have them all...why do I have to look to the future? There is enough history from 45-95 to keep someone happy a lifetime.

Yeah, but with a book like Runaways it's a completly new history. It's it's like one of if not the best new thing to have come out.

[Midnight Ice]

Getting this thread back on track...


Shadowcat. When she phases through a person, they are dazed and "shocked" for a second. That second would be all that she would need. Eventually she would make "intangible contact' with the Wasp :xmen:

[Darth Hyperion]

You should at least try Exiles. It's nice to see someone like Mosses Magnum shine. Even in an alternate universe.

[1987olds442]

Wasp

[omega smith]

wasp

[Sparta*]

11 - 10 is the final tally for Shadowcat! Damn that was a close one...

Next match up in a minute or two...

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

M Y S T I Q U E
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Mystique.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

SCARLET WITCH
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/ScarletWitch.jpg

[Zoken]

My vote goes for the Scarlet Witch.

while Mystique will always have my heart, Wanda just has more fire power. I'm assuming this is "Hand to hand" with no weapons allowed. thus leaving Mystique with only her martial arts and shrinking to help her out. I just gotta say, Wanda takes this one.

[omega smith]

yeah buddy, scarlet witch is too raw. In fact she is more raw than uncooked chicken, and that's raw. scarlet wins hands up.

[PaleRider]

Wanda would put a hurtin on her, Scarlet Witch

[Darth Hyperion]

I love me some Mystique, but in my opinon their powers aren't even in the same class. The only way I see Raven winning is if she got the jump on Wanda and took her out on some black ops stuff. I mean SW has reality altering powers.

My vote Scarlet Witch

[KAD]

Season of the witch

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Ok, Buddy. You Went Way Too Damn Far. There Is No Way In Hell I Could Pick Between Them. Damn You! J/k

[POWdER-man]

Scarlet Witch....no contest.

[Kmack]

Scarlet Witch

[JeanGrey[GR]]

Definitely Scarlet Witch!:)

[3dman27]

mystique

[1987olds442]

Scarlet Witch

[White_Howling]

Scarlet Witch

[Mortified]

Scarlet

[mrvlknight21]

It saddens me to say ...Scarlet Witch

[Son Of Logan]

Scarlet Witch

[Sparta*]

13 - 1 for Wanda so far

[taskmaster]

I'll vote for scarlet witch

[Silver Sable]

Scarlet Witch

[Patriot]

Scarlet Witch

[Sparta*]

What if Mystique turned into the HULK or something?

[A_French_Gal]

Wanda

[Patriot]

She can't get superstrength just like changeling does.

[Sparta*]

weeeaaakkkkk

[Sparta*]

17 - 1 for Wanda!

Next battle comin' up...

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

N A M O R
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Namor.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

T H I N G
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Thing.jpg

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

Ha! Like I'm Really Gonna...Thing?

the only reason i didn"t pick Namor is because i'm really starting to hate a***holes.

[White_Howling]

kind of early...

i pick namor..

[Kevin D. Comicboy]

kind of early...

i pick namor..

not from this thread if you were talking to me.

[Midnight Ice]

Namor

If it came down to it, Namor would just take Thing into the ocean and drown him. :xmen:

[JeanGrey[GR]]

Namor

[KAD]

Namor

[POWdER-man]

Well, I don't know. The match will be out of water and the longer Namor is out of water the weaker he gets. Thing would just have to buy his time. As well, Namor would have a hard time carrying Thing with him being conscious, and if he is weakened it would be impossible for him to overcome Thing.

Also, I couldn't see him knocking out Thing since he has taken shots from the Hulk....Thing could probably pick up a massively large object and hurl it at Namor thereby crushing him......so I am going to say Thing.

[Sparta*]

** FYI: Namor does not have access to water in this battle **

[1987olds442]

Thing

[Sparta*]

4 - 3 for Namor so far...

[Silver Sable]

Thing

[Sparta*]

I'm gonna say Namor...he's taken on more then the Thing before

[Sparta*]

5 - 4 for Namor so far...

[POWdER-man]

I'm gonna say Namor...he's taken on more then the Thing before


But his victories seem to tie into him being near water. He has beaten the Hulk at least twice, but that's because Hulk was dumb enough to follow him into the water.

I am not saying he is helpless without it but it does substancially weaken him without it. I think I saw that both are at the 85 ton range (with Namor in the water), and without it Namor goes down to the 40 ton class.

[Sparta*]

Yeah with water he is uber strong...but when he is away his strength fades. At the beginning of this battle we'll say he's freshly out of the water, so at max strength, then it'll start to fade as the battle progressess