Marvel Comics Character Tournament!!!

[3dman27]

thats what i was thinking corp

[Jecht]

Crystal

[Phaedrus45]

Crystal

[JeanGrey[GR]]

crystal

[Darth Wolverine]

Storm, after a long and hard fight.

[Furthermore]

crystal

[XFanTim]

I guess I'll go with Crystal. I'd say she's a bit more versatile than Storm (who can't control fire or earth, and has only limited control over water). But there's still a chance Storm could take her out with a quick lightning bolt.

[Jecht]

Wasn't this done before? I think Crystal won...

[krpton2]

crystal

[Bastila]

Crystal

[Hellstormer]

Crystal

[POWdER-man]

I vote for Storm. She could freeze the water with cold weather. Crystal's Earth power basically causes Earthquakes which is useless since Storm can fly. And wind cancels it's each other out since they both can manipulate it. So it's lighting against fire, I give it to lighting because it's faster and more powerful.

12-4 for Crystal so far. I thought it would be closer than that.

[Genesis 1.0]

I agree, for the same reasons as Powder, anything Crystal can do, Storm has a counter for.

Storm

[Midnight Ice]

Crystal:xmen:

[Logan Howlett]

storm

[Sparta*]

Crystal

[Vanguard07]

I think this'd be a close fight whichever way it went. Storm has more mobility and range (what with the flying and the lightning of course) but i think Crystal's powers are more versatile. Not only can she control earth wind water and fire she can also convert one to another which would be a pretty effective defense against another elemental. However despite that i'm still going to give this one to storm because i think she's got more skill and experience at the combat thing and because flying is a huge advantage over people who cant do it.

[Kmack]

Storm

[Toby_Temple]

Storm. Fire, Wind, Water and Earth are nothing compared to full-blown super hurricane.:) And add lightning shots to that.:up:

[POWdER-man]

14-9 for Crystal so far. Storm coming back...:D

[fifthfiend]

Crystal cause Storm bears the taint of Claremont.

[Unleashed]

Storm

[POWdER-man]

15-10 for Crystal is the final score.

I am ending this match early because of the "Contest of Marvels" tournament. We are coming down to the end, and we have a tie to settle by Saturday morning. I will have it up shortly.

I will accept any more votes for the Storm/Crystal matchup until I have it up.

[POWdER-man]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

DRAXWITH POWER GEM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Drax.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

QUASAR
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Quasar.jpg

NOTE: There is only ONE stipulation with this matchup. You must vote on who you truly believe to be the winner and not simply who you like better or who you like the least.

[Unleashed]

drax

[blah]

I really, really, really, really, really, really, really think that Quasar would win.

[POWdER-man]

Quasar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar_%28comics%29

Drax
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Drax

[Silver Sable]

Drax

[wiegeabo]

Quasar

[Toby_Temple]

Is this the resurrected Drax?

[Vanguard07]

I like Drax better but Quasar would win.

[Sparta*]

Does Drax have his gem for this match-up?

[This I.........]

Quasar
didnt sparta already do this fight?

[POWdER-man]

All gems were allowed in the tournament so I say yes.

As for this being the ressurected version where he was stronger but quite dumb, I can't really say. I don't recall us making a decision on the matter in the tournament. I will leave it up to Jewish Hobbit to decide on it since it's his tourney. You can still vote in the meantime and when he makes his ruling if you feel it makes a difference than you can change your vote.

[POWdER-man]

Quasar
didnt sparta already do this fight?

15-10 for Crystal is the final score.

I am ending this match early because of the "Contest of Marvels" tournament. We are coming down to the end, and we have a tie to settle by Saturday morning. I will have it up shortly.

I will accept any more votes for the Storm/Crystal matchup until I have it up.

I believe it did happen but this is a matter of life and death...

[Toby_Temple]

If Drax has the power gem and he is the resurrected Drax, then Drax takes this hands down. With the power gem, Quasar could do nothing to Drax.

[spartin2008]

quasar

[This I.........]

If its a matter of life and death, i gotta say Quasar cause hes a beautyful man like me and all us have 2 live, Drax must die

[Sparta*]

if Drax has the gem, you should list that as a condition of the battle under the pics of the characters POWdER :up:

I am sticking with my original vote in the contest of marvels, which was DRAX

[JewishHobbit]

We never made a decision on which Drax this is that I can recall, but I usually think of him as the big powerhouse dumb guy from Warlock and the Infinity Watch, so lets go with that.

And my vote's for Quasar

[Harlekin]

I too am sticking with my vote, which is Quasar.

[iambilly81]

this is the first time ive seen this thread, pritty cool, you should do like a bracket thing, like march madness... that way out of know were you get like, deadpool vs thanos... or something, get some upsets... just an idea. maybe start a new thread like that...

oh, quasar

[wiegeabo]

this is the first time ive seen this thread, pritty cool, you should do like a bracket thing, like march madness... that way out of know were you get like, deadpool vs thanos... or something, get some upsets... just an idea. maybe start a new thread like that...

oh, quasar


You should check out the Contest of Marvels. We started with a bracket of 256 (or was it 512?) characters. Now we're done to the last few rounds.

If you're interested, you could join the next tourney in a few weeks.

[Horseman Gambit]

Quasar

[JewishHobbit]

You should check out the Contest of Marvels. We started with a bracket of 256 (or was it 512?) characters. Now we're done to the last few rounds.

If you're interested, you could join the next tourney in a few weeks.

It was 512 characters

Now there's only 16 left after this match is determined :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

If Drax has the power gem and he is the resurrected Drax, then Drax takes this hands down. With the power gem, Quasar could do nothing to Drax.
And yet people kicked Drax's ass when he had the gem like every five minutes. I vote for Quasar. Versatility trumps brute strength 8 times out of 10 for me.

[Phaedrus45]

Drax. After all, he was designed to take down Thanos.

[Toby_Temple]

And yet people kicked Drax's ass when he had the gem like every five minutes. I vote for Quasar. Versatility trumps brute strength 8 times out of 10 for me.

I guess that happens to alot of powerful beings in Marvel due to bad writting or because thats the way the story should go. As for me, I base my vote on the capabilities of the characters and not on how they were written.

[Midnight Ice]

Drax

and you know why?

Its because he roxxx!! j/k :xmen:

[3dman27]

quasar

[POWdER-man]

if Drax has the gem, you should list that as a condition of the battle under the pics of the characters POWdER :up:

I am sticking with my original vote in the contest of marvels, which was DRAX

I did this morning.


PLEASE NOTE, Drax does have the power gem and his state is when he was the "big powerhouse dumb guy from Warlock and the Infinity Watch", as Jewish Hobbit put it.

I vote for Drax bringing it to 12-7 for Quasar.

[XwolverineX]

Drax

[1987olds442]

Quasar

[Jecht]

Quasar

[TheCorpulent1]

Drax. After all, he was designed to take down Thanos.
And Quasar was designed to protect the entire universe. See? Everyone in comics has some cool tidbit about themselves. :p
I guess that happens to alot of powerful beings in Marvel due to bad writting or because thats the way the story should go. As for me, I base my vote on the capabilities of the characters and not on how they were written.
Yeah, it does happen to a lot of powerful beings. So many, in fact, that you can't really chalk it up to bad writing unless you're going to discount about a a quarter of Marvel's comics in general.

Besides, think about it: Quasar's got a speed advantage and a major range advantage. He can create constructs strong enough to withstand the combined strength of Hercules, the Hulk, the Thing, and a bunch of other bruisers, too, so even if Drax reached him, all he'd need to do is whip up some armor. Meanwhile, Quasar can dish out a hell of a lot of punishment and Drax is nothing but a dumb, tough bruiser around the Hulk's level, even when he has the gem (presumably because he's too stupid to use it well).

[Phaedrus45]

hmph! You just think Quasar is hot with that sweatband across his forehead.

"let's get physical, physical.
I wanna get physical."

[krpton2]

quasar

[POWdER-man]

15-8 for Quasar so far.

[TheCorpulent1]

hmph! You just think Quasar is hot with that sweatband across his forehead.

"let's get physical, physical.
I wanna get physical."
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Jun06/ANNNOVA003_cover.jpg

I see no headband. Only pure badassery. :p

[Johnny Blaze]

Drax

[TheCorpulent1]

Et tu, JB? :(

[Jecht]

Drax is his character...

[Red X]

quasar

[Genesis 1.0]

Quasar, as it's already been pointed out, he's got a much better range when it comes to a battle and he's got a slight edge in the Speed Department. A VERY close fight though but all it'll take is a game of Tag and I don't think Drax is ever going to Tag out.

Quasar

[krpton2]

:up: Nicely stated genesis

[Colossal Spoons]

Goin with Quasar

[POWdER-man]

18-9 for Quasar. Looks like he has taken down the behemoth.

[Phaedrus45]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/66321580692.7.GIF

Headband AND Cosmic Spidey!

[Darth Wolverine]

Quasar.

[Quentin Beck]

Quasar

[JewishHobbit]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/66321580692.7.GIF

Headband AND Cosmic Spidey!

Was that really while he had the cosmic powers? I didn't know he guest stared anywhere with them! I'll have to pick that up.

[Anubis]

hmmm, I'm gonna go with Drax I guess.

[POWdER-man]

20-10 is the final score for Quasar. So Quasar advances to face Adam Warlock next round.

BTW next matchup coming up soon.

[POWdER-man]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

RHINO
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Rhino.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

MAN THING
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/ManThing.jpg

[POWdER-man]

Man Thing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-Thing

Rhino
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_%28comics%29

[Anubis]

Man Thing

[TheCorpulent1]

Man-Thing.

[Sparta*]

I'm gonna say Man-Thing as well :up:

[CConn]

Man-Thing

[Silicon Surfer]

Man-Thing.

[Vanguard07]

Man Thing easilly. All who know fear burn at the Man Thing's touch.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Man Thing easilly. All who know fear burn at the Man Thing's touch.

I thought it was all that fear man-thing? :confused: I'm probably wrong.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Man-Thing

[JeanGrey[GR]]

man-thing

[spartin2008]

Rhino

[1987olds442]

Man Thing easilly. All who know fear burn at the Man Thing's touch.I thought it was all that fear man-thing? :confused: I'm probably wrong.They just need to have fear in their heart to burn at the touch of the Man-Thing.

Man-Thing :up:

[Darth Wolverine]

Man-Thing.

[Red X]

MAN THING :up:

[3dman27]

man-thing

[Quentin Beck]

Man Thing

[Andykin]

Man-Thing

[marcofthebeast]

Swamp-thing... I mean Man-thing.

[XwolverineX]

Man-thing

[Jecht]

Man-Thing

[Silver Sable]

Man-Thing

[HERCULES]

Man-Thing

[Genesis 1.0]

Man-Thing.

I'd be more compelled to consider if it was Ult. Rhino.

[Phaedrus45]

Man-Thing

[This I.........]

Rhino :up:
:)

[Horseman Gambit]

Rhino, He's too dumb to be afraid

[Genesis 1.0]

Rhino, He's too dumb to be afraid

Meh, he damn near pissed his pants when Peter had the Venom suit.:down

[Kmack]

Man-Thing

[Bastila]

Man thing

[krpton2]

Man thing

[Sparta*]

Rhino, He's too dumb to be afraid

He is very dumb...but not dumb enough to be beyond fear.

[POWdER-man]

I vote for Rhino. His suit is like armour which is indestructible. Which should make the corrosive acid less effective. Plus wouldn't it depend on how much a fear a person has? I don't really see Rhino with much fear.

Anyways 24-4 for Man-Thing. I thought that it would be a closer match than that.

Next matchup coming up shortly, votes will still be accepted until it's up.

[POWdER-man]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

STRONG GUY
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/StrongGuy.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

ROGUE
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Rogue.jpg

[Anubis]

Rogue

[TheCorpulent1]

Rogue. As far as I know, they're both around the same level in strength, but Rogue's got the advantages of flight and maneuverability on her side.

[Anubis]

I'd figure she'd just touch him and knock him out. I believe he can absorb kenetic energy. So anything she hits him with he can just give it back. Best way to take him down is absorb him. Knock him on his ass, and be all betty boop like for an hour.

[TheCorpulent1]

But Rogue only uses her absorption power in the most extreme scenarios. I doubt she'd really be anxious to have Guido's personality bumping around in her head with all the others.

[1987olds442]

Rogue

[1987olds442]

I'd figure she'd just touch him and knock him out. I believe he can absorb kenetic energy. So anything she hits him with he can just give it back. Best way to take him down is absorb him. Knock him on his ass, and be all betty boop like for an hour.Of course if he doesn't release the energy it can cause his system to overload, so if Rogue uses a hit and run technique she could overload him...

[ookami]

Rogue

[Anubis]

Of course if he doesn't release the energy it can cause his system to overload, so if Rogue uses a hit and run technique she could overload him...

Yeah, thats true. But she doesn't have the Ms. marvel powers anymore does she? Traded those in for Sunfire. Can he survive flame?

[Zoken]

Rogue, her flight and absorption powers over ride Guido's kinetic redirection power.

[gliderpilotgirl]

Rogue

[1987olds442]

Yeah, thats true. But she doesn't have the Ms. marvel powers anymore does she? Traded those in for Sunfire. Can he survive flame?I was going under the assumption that Sparta's rules are still in affect, and that they are at the power level in the pictures posted. I was reading on wikipedia currently she doen't have Ms. Marvel's powers any longer.

[Anubis]

Oh, didn't know there was rules. I've avoided this thread. Thought it was one of those RPG types of deals.

[Silver Sable]

Rogue

[Unleashed]

rouge :D

[XwolverineX]

Rogue

[Zoken]

Oh, didn't know there was rules. I've avoided this thread. Thought it was one of those RPG types of deals.

nope, this has to be one of the longest running threads ever to grace this board. to bad Sparta recently handed it off. he was good at these.

No offence Pow, its just like with Stan Lee, you can never have someone better than the original.

[XFanTim]

Hmm . . . first of all, I'll assume it's Rogue with Ms. Marvel's powers, since that's what it looks like. If Rogue fights the way she normally does, relying mostly on her fists, then she'll have a lot of trouble. Strong Guy can absorb her blows and put that same energy behind his own punches. Even if we assume she'd soon adjust her strategy when punching him proved ineffective, she might not last that long -- if he absorbs a few shots from her, he might have enough strength to knock her out cold.

Only one problem for Strong Guy -- Rogue should know all about his powers. The X-Men have an extensive database on mutants, and he was high profile enough when he was a member of the government X-Factor team that Rogue would have read up on him. Plus, she's met him personally on at least a few occasions. So, she'd probably know never to even try just hitting him, and would go ahead and touch him right away.

Long story short, my vote goes to Rogue.

Incidentally, Sunfire-Rogue would win too. She can stay out of Strong Guy's range by flying, and he has no defense against fire.

[Sparta*]

The match-ups always have the characters at the power levels they are most commonly known for (or how they are shown in the card) There are exceptions to this rule, but only when you see a statement under the match-ups saying what the conditions are. If there are no conditions, these are the rules.

[Sparta*]

nope, this has to be one of the longest running threads ever to grace this board. to bad Sparta recently handed it off. he was good at these.

No offence Pow, its just like with Stan Lee, you can never have someone better than the original.

I never handed it off to anyone Zoken, I just recruited some helpers. I'm starting to miss posting match-ups everyday though. Maybe i'll reduce my helpers workload's and post more match-ups myself.

[Zoken]

Sorry, spoke without all the facts. I thought you'd handed it off to Powder-Man and a few others. they do a fair job, but you really had a knack for getting matches that people would bicker about well into the next one.

[Vanguard07]

Rogue. Strong guy's a one trick pony.

[Phaedrus45]

Rogue

[Sparta*]

oh yeah, I suppose I should vote lol

I'm going to go with Rogue as well

[Sparta*]

Sorry, spoke without all the facts. I thought you'd handed it off to Powder-Man and a few others. they do a fair job, but you really had a knack for getting matches that people would bicker about well into the next one.

lol thanks man. My week starts again in a couple of days, so keep your eyes open for that :up:

Also, if anyone is itchin' to see a match-up, don't hesitate to PM myself, Phaedrus45, POWdER-man, or Midnight Ice

[Zoken]

I keep askin' about the Victor Mancha Vs. Vision match, but no one responds. I know he's not on a card, but use the cover of Runaways Vol. 2 #2.

[Sparta*]

I keep askin' about the Victor Mancha Vs. Vision match, but no one responds. I know he's not on a card, but use the cover of Runaways Vol. 2 #2.

Okay Zoken, I will post this match-up for you during my week...I just hope Vision doesn't win because of popularity alone.

[Zoken]

**Does happy dance and kisses Sparta on the lips... it would be less awkward for all parties considered if I were a girl, but alas I am a guy... just a comfortable guy**

[Sparta*]

**Does happy dance and kisses Sparta on the lips... it would be less awkward for all parties considered if I were a girl, but alas I am a guy... just a comfortable guy**

haha no worries dude. Sorry that it has taken this long to get the match-up approved!

(You better debate the hell out of that match-up when I post it though...OR ELSE! :p I want Victor to get a good amount of votes)

[Zoken]

um... is Vision made of metal?

[Sparta*]

I don't really know? He is an android or whatever....so there should be some metal...but he can also become completley intangible so I dunno :confused:

[Zoken]

so what day will this be on? I want to make sure to weigh in.

[Sparta*]

Undecided. I'll PM you before I post it though :up:

[Anubis]

Its a good match. Technically they're brothers you know. And, I dont think it would be all that easy for Viz. Sure he's got experience, but Victor was designed to kill heros. You gotta figure he's got something in him to take down his big brother. Ultron had to take into account that Vision might still be around by the time Vic came of age.

[Zoken]

I would think Victor has something special in store for Vision by Ultron's design (Doesn't Ully hate his kid?)

[Anubis]

Of course, he betrayed him.

[Zoken]

Well I didn't know if Ully experienced "Hate"

[Anubis]

Oh they all have emotions. They're based on the brainwaves of human beings. Ultron is Hank Pym, minus his morality. (Which is why his exsistance is such a problem for the doctor.) Just like Vision is basically Wonder Man.

[rodhulk]

Thanks for the kind words in the pm, Sparta.

For this match, I'm gonna go with Rogue.

[omega smith]

rogue

[Horseman Gambit]

Rogue

[Victor Creed]

Rogue.....is it really necessary to continue with this matchup, I think it would take a miracle to have Strong Guy win. heh.

[This I.........]

i like strong guy but Rogue would take him down easy.
does anyone know the name of a book about the villains of marvel i cant find that thing

[Silicon Surfer]

Rogue

[Phaedrus45]

i like strong guy but Rogue would take him down easy.
does anyone know the name of a book about the villains of marvel i cant find that thing

Well, the first one to ever come out was back in 1976. (I even got a copy of it from my Grandpa back then.) It was called Bring On The Bad Guys.
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/12963785008.1.2ND.PRINT.GIF

Not sure it's what you're thinking of; but, it is the first.

[Sparta*]

That pic is awesome Phaed :up:

[HERCULES]

Well, the first one to ever come out was back in 1976. (I even got a copy of it from my Grandpa back then.) It was called Bring On The Bad Guys.
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/12963785008.1.2ND.PRINT.GIF

Not sure it's what you're thinking of; but, it is the first.

dammit i'm old. i remember that comic

[3dman27]

ROGUE
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Rogue.jpg
the southern belle herself

[POWdER-man]

OK OK it's 17-0. I thought Strong Guy would get some votes. The only way Rogue could beat SG would be if she absorbed his powers because whatever she hits him with will only make him stronger. She could try overloading him but she's not that quick and he could expell enough energy so to not let that happen.

I probably have had more matchups that end up very close, than be blowouts. The last 2 were blowouts but if you want bickering in the matchups, than bickering it is.

[POWdER-man]

Anyways, it's easy to put some of the big name characters against each other, but that gets tiring after awhile. BUT in light of that, I give you....

BATTLE OF THE FANBOYS...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

WOLVERINE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Wolverine2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

HULK
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Hulk.jpg

[POWdER-man]

This match will last until tonight when I have my last scheduled match already planned. So get it out of your system.

[Sparta*]

Wolverine kicks ass, and he's a fellow Albertan, but I think Hulk would take this in the end after a long and grueling battle royale. :hulk:

[JeanGrey[GR]]

hm...i say wolverine :wolverine

:D

[Bastila]

Logan

[XwolverineX]

Hulk

[XFanTim]

Wolverine was the character who first got me into comics, whereas I've never particularly been a fan of the Hulk. So I hope you won't think I'm biased when I say . . . there's no way Logan should win this.

I've always thought it ridiculous that writers had Wolverine go up against the Hulk. The Hulk has a far more devastating attack. A slash from Wolverine can cut down a tree . . . a blow from Hulk can level a building. Also, Hulk has a far better healing factor. A lot of casual fans don't know it, but the Hulk regenerates from injury almost instantaneously (particularly when he's angry). I've seen him re-grow from little more than a skeleton to full health in less than a minute on more than one occasion. Wolverine's healing factor has been ridiculously exaggerated over the years (used to be, it'd take him days to fully heal from a really rough fight), but even in recent years he's taken more than a day to fully heal from, say, having his eyeball ripped out, or suffering third degree burns over most of his body.

I guess some writers think Wolverine's unbreakable bones should protect him from blunt damage like the Hulk deals out. Evidently these writers have never heard of a concussion. A blow to the head doesn't have to break the skull to bash your brain against the side of it. A Hulk force blow would slam Logan's brain into his skull so hard that he'd be left with a skull full of mush.

One area where Wolverine may have an edge is speed, but Hulk isn't exactly slow. If anything, he's typically characterized as "surprisingly fast" for his size, and he's fought substantially faster foes and still beat them. Plus, he has ranged attacks that are tailor made for such fights. A thunderclap from Hulk would send Wolverine flying off his feet, or a foot stomp could create an earthquake. Plus Hulk's leaps let him cover long distances almost instantaneously.

Lastly, in terms of training, obviously Wolverine has an edge. But the thing is, it just doesn't matter. How well do you think Bruce Lee would fare against an armored tank? Bruce Lee didn't have adamantium claws, but the physical difference between Wolverine and the Hulk is far greater even than that.

In summary: Hulk wins. And it shouldn't even be that close.

[DeGenerate10]

Hulk

[Anubis]

pfft, Hulk.

[1987olds442]

Hulk

[bkhedr]

Hulk

[POWdER-man]

Wolverine was the character who first got me into comics, whereas I've never particularly been a fan of the Hulk. So I hope you won't think I'm biased when I say . . . there's no way Logan should win this.

I've always thought it ridiculous that writers had Wolverine go up against the Hulk. The Hulk has a far more devastating attack. A slash from Wolverine can cut down a tree . . . a blow from Hulk can level a building. Also, Hulk has a far better healing factor. A lot of casual fans don't know it, but the Hulk regenerates from injury almost instantaneously (particularly when he's angry). I've seen him re-grow from little more than a skeleton to full health in less than a minute on more than one occasion. Wolverine's healing factor has been ridiculously exaggerated over the years (used to be, it'd take him days to fully heal from a really rough fight), but even in recent years he's taken more than a day to fully heal from, say, having his eyeball ripped out, or suffering third degree burns over most of his body.

I guess some writers think Wolverine's unbreakable bones should protect him from blunt damage like the Hulk deals out. Evidently these writers have never heard of a concussion. A blow to the head doesn't have to break the skull to bash your brain against the side of it. A Hulk force blow would slam Logan's brain into his skull so hard that he'd be left with a skull full of mush.

One area where Wolverine may have an edge is speed, but Hulk isn't exactly slow. If anything, he's typically characterized as "surprisingly fast" for his size, and he's fought substantially faster foes and still beat them. Plus, he has ranged attacks that are tailor made for such fights. A thunderclap from Hulk would send Wolverine flying off his feet, or a foot stomp could create an earthquake. Plus Hulk's leaps let him cover long distances almost instantaneously.

Lastly, in terms of training, obviously Wolverine has an edge. But the thing is, it just doesn't matter. How well do you think Bruce Lee would fare against an armored tank? Bruce Lee didn't have adamantium claws, but the physical difference between Wolverine and the Hulk is far greater even than that.

In summary: Hulk wins. And it shouldn't even be that close.

Oh I quite agree with what you said. Hence the battle of the fanboys. I wanted to see how many "Wolverine stabbed SS" fans are out there.

BTW I vote for hulk.

8-2 for Hulk.

[Darth Wolverine]

Hulk.

[Silver Sable]

Hulk

[Toby_Temple]

Hulk. Wolverine is good but Hulk is just too powerful for someone who rely on claws as a weapon.

[taskmaster]

Hulk

[Horseman Gambit]

Hulk would rip him in half,.....again

[Unleashed]

hulk

[Quentin Beck]

Hulk :)

[TheCorpulent1]

People give Wolverine entirely too much credit. The Hulk would win, and the fight would be neither long nor hard for him. He would easily destroy Wolverine.

[Hellstormer]

Hulk

[cajun2de]

Hulk would rip him in half,.....again
probly in the ultimate universe, not in the 616 universe

[cajun2de]

what about
sentry vs thor?
sentry vs gladiator?
gladiator vs hyperion?

[krpton2]

Hulk

[kytrigger]

Hulk...

[spartin2008]

Wolverine would murder hulk.

[rodhulk]

Wolverine was the character who first got me into comics, whereas I've never particularly been a fan of the Hulk. So I hope you won't think I'm biased when I say . . . there's no way Logan should win this.

I've always thought it ridiculous that writers had Wolverine go up against the Hulk. The Hulk has a far more devastating attack. A slash from Wolverine can cut down a tree . . . a blow from Hulk can level a building. Also, Hulk has a far better healing factor. A lot of casual fans don't know it, but the Hulk regenerates from injury almost instantaneously (particularly when he's angry). I've seen him re-grow from little more than a skeleton to full health in less than a minute on more than one occasion. Wolverine's healing factor has been ridiculously exaggerated over the years (used to be, it'd take him days to fully heal from a really rough fight), but even in recent years he's taken more than a day to fully heal from, say, having his eyeball ripped out, or suffering third degree burns over most of his body.

I guess some writers think Wolverine's unbreakable bones should protect him from blunt damage like the Hulk deals out. Evidently these writers have never heard of a concussion. A blow to the head doesn't have to break the skull to bash your brain against the side of it. A Hulk force blow would slam Logan's brain into his skull so hard that he'd be left with a skull full of mush.

One area where Wolverine may have an edge is speed, but Hulk isn't exactly slow. If anything, he's typically characterized as "surprisingly fast" for his size, and he's fought substantially faster foes and still beat them. Plus, he has ranged attacks that are tailor made for such fights. A thunderclap from Hulk would send Wolverine flying off his feet, or a foot stomp could create an earthquake. Plus Hulk's leaps let him cover long distances almost instantaneously.

Lastly, in terms of training, obviously Wolverine has an edge. But the thing is, it just doesn't matter. How well do you think Bruce Lee would fare against an armored tank? Bruce Lee didn't have adamantium claws, but the physical difference between Wolverine and the Hulk is far greater even than that.

In summary: Hulk wins. And it shouldn't even be that close.:up: Yeah, it's pretty much like that.

Hulk wins easily.

[Venom.Symbiote]

Wolverine is faster than Hulk but that's where the advantages end for him. Hulk would literally beat him until he got bored. :venom:

http://www.geocities.com/hdr2nd/hulk.gif

[Red X]

HULK

and a suggestion for a match up

Deadpool vs Ultimate Captain America

[Vanguard07]

I disagree with you most of you guys. Not cause i particularly like wolverine but cause i put more credit on tactics than anything else. Hulk is unbeatable in a direct physical confrontation. But he's barely got a brain in his skull.
(I'm assuming this is the typical savage hulk)
Now i'm not gonna say wolverine WOULD win. But he deffinitely COULD win if he played it smart. Here's how i'd do it:

Firstly. run away. get out of sight. You dont want Hulk to know where it's coming from when you attack. Wolverine could do this since he's a freakin expert at that sort of thing.
Second. Come up with a plan. Jumping in claws blazing and hoping for the best wont work no matter how good you are at hand to hand.
Third. Sneak up on the bastard and kill him before he knows your there. The last thing you want is for Hulk to join this fight. Dont give him a chance to do so. Get close. Put your claws in his brain. Decapitate him. Sever all the vertebrae in his spine. gouge out his eyes. mince his brain. do all of the above just to be sure. Admittedly it might be difficult to pierce hulks skull so try going through the eye sockets. get to his brain one way or another.
If Wolverine fought dirty enough and smart enough (which he can and does do on occasion) he COULD absolutely win.

But this is a fight between the two that i'm voting on not an argument as to whether or not Wolverine could kill the hulk. And typically Logan doesnt do things this way. In order to win he'd have to be 100% committed to Murdering the Hulk which is something he's been unwilling to do in the past.

So I vote Hulk.
lol

[Zoken]

Hulk, though not as easily as everyone thinks. He does have a time limit, as stated before. The Hulk can only be the Hulk for so long before he burns through all his gamma energy and reverts back to Banner. Wolverine has the endurance for this fight long term.

anyway, I vote Hulk. On occasion they have had Hulk smart enough to avoid traps. and Wolverine does have his own tendency to go savage.

[1987olds442]

Hulk, though not as easily as everyone thinks. He does have a time limit, as stated before. The Hulk can only be the Hulk for so long before he burns through all his gamma energy and reverts back to Banner. Wolverine has the endurance for this fight long term.What the heck are you talking about? He doesn't have a limit on how long he stays the Hulk, and the Hulk pictured is the Professor Hulk he doesn't even change back into human form.

[Zoken]

I just remember reading somewhere that Hulk only has a limited amount of energy that he can use before he returns to Bruce Banner to recharge. again, I reserve the right to be as wrong as a three dollar bill held by Michael Jackson.

I don't know Hulk facts, I'm primarily a fringe reader. I think I read this stuff about Hulk in a Spider-Man comic.

[Victor Creed]

Hulk, though not as easily as everyone thinks. He does have a time limit, as stated before. The Hulk can only be the Hulk for so long before he burns through all his gamma energy and reverts back to Banner. Wolverine has the endurance for this fight long term.

Stop basing everything on video game logic, lol. Runs out of gamma radiation, what does he have a pouch he carries with him with some Gamma Spinach. Hulk would own Wolverine because there are about a batrillion different ways for him to beat Logan, and Logan could only defeat him if he snuck up on him.

[POWdER-man]

23-3 is the final score for Hulk. Hmm...I thought there were Wolverine fan boys in this section, I guess not....

Here is my last matchup for awhile. A nice special one...;)

[POWdER-man]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

SPIDERCIDE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Spidercide.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

KAINE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Kaine.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

SPIDER-MAN
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Spiderman.jpg

VS

SCARLET SPIDER
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/ScarletSpider.jpg

This is a 4-way free for all, winner take all matchup.

[Kmack]

Spider-man

[Zoken]

Stop basing everything on video game logic, lol. Runs out of gamma radiation, what does he have a pouch he carries with him with some Gamma Spinach. Hulk would own Wolverine because there are about a batrillion different ways for him to beat Logan, and Logan could only defeat him if he snuck up on him.

It wasn't based on a damn video game. It was based on comments made in 616 continuity

in this one... Kaine.

[Anubis]

Scarlet Spider

[Calendar Man]

Spider-man.

[spartin2008]

in my heart...Spider-man...in my brain... i honestly think Spidercide

so Spider-man:D, but really i think Spidercide takes this one.

[Phaedrus45]

I'm going with Kaine.

[Toby_Temple]

Spiderman:up: . He'll definitely use his brains to twart all three.:)

[Zoken]

right on Phaed.

[Sparta*]

I really want to say Kaine...but i'm going to go with Spider-man.

[Victor Creed]

Spidercide

[Zoken]

Kaine is stronger and more agile than the rest of the clones (Except maybe Spider-Cide, I don't know enough about him). also he has full-on precognition. The intelligence factor is negated by the fact that all of these three clones have Peter Parker's memories implanted in them. they know every thing he knows. Not to mention Kaine can cause pain just by touching someone.

[Andykin]

SCARLET SPIDER

Kaine dies first(cuz everyone desn't like him:D ) . Pete and Ben team up and take out Spidercide. Ben turns on Pete and we have the real battle here. I think Ben takes it, he always seemed a bit more merciless then Pete.:spidey:

[ookami]

Kaine

[taskmaster]

Kaine

[rodhulk]

Spider-Man is my favorite of the lot, but I'm gonna go with Scarlet Spider.

[krpton2]

i think he's right.

[This I.........]

1st i gotta give props 2 Phaedrus45 and second Spider-Man :spidey: would win

[iambilly81]

on this one i would go with spiderman......just smarter then all the others.

[Zoken]

They all have the same amount of brains! they all have all the memories (and thusly intelligence, experience, and cunning) of Peter Parker.

[POWdER-man]

1st i gotta give props 2 Phaedrus45

I don't get it....:confused:

[Anubis]

They're all relatively equal in the brains department. Thats why I just went with the one I like best. Scarlet Spider

[POWdER-man]

I vote for Kaine. He will team up with SM and Scarlet to finish off Spidercide, and he is faster, stronger and more agile than SM and Scarlet. So I think he could out last them. Plus he doesn't have any squemishes in killing or fighting as hard as he could.

7 Spider-man
5 Kaine
4 Scarlet Spider
1 Spidercide

[Toby_Temple]

They all have the same amount of brains! they all have all the memories (and thusly intelligence, experience, and cunning) of Peter Parker.

I don't think all of them will do the exact same thing. Even if they are clones of Peter Parker, they still differ from one another.

[Silver Sable]

Kaine

[Zoken]

True, but they still all have the same intellect to draw their decisions with. obviously they have differing opinions of what to do (mostly I imagine for Spider-Cide and Kaine because of their extra powers). But they all still have the same intelligence, experience, and cunning. it would be particularly difficult if things were left between Scarlet Spider and Spider-Man.

Which, I think, is why Peter would be taken down second. Kaine would help the others defeat Spider-Cide, then he'd turn on them, taking down Peter first (he never did like him) and then finally beating up Ben.

[Toby_Temple]

I think when Kaine starts to turn against Spider Man, Ben would gladly help Spidey out. And if its the other way around, Peter would also help Ben. Then the last fight will be Peter against Ben. I'm voting for Peter coz his the original and, comics wise, uses his brain most of the time when he fights.:)

[Zoken]

fair point, but, kaine is stronger and faster and more fully devoloped Spider-Sense then they have. also he can hurt them by just touching them.

[krpton2]

This is turning to a great debate.

[Zoken]

Doesn't Kaine also have some sort of claws?

[POWdER-man]

Damn confusing clone saga.

[POWdER-man]

Doesn't Kaine also have some sort of claws?

yep, as well as the Mark of Kaine (ability to cling to surfaces amplyfied), and his spidey-sense enables him to see small glimpses of the future.

[Zoken]

Now my understanding was that he disliked the real Peter, and tried to kill him to give the clone, Ben, Peter's life. but he got confused and thought that Ben was the real deal and PEter was the clone... I didn't really read the saga, I just did a lot of research. Then Ben convinced Kaine to own up and protect Peter during the trial... again, didn't Kaine have some sort of claws?

[POWdER-man]

Kaine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaine

Spidercide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spidercide_%28comics%29

Scarlet Spider
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_Spider

Spider-man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man

[POWdER-man]

Now my understanding was that he disliked the real Peter, and tried to kill him to give the clone, Ben, Peter's life. but he got confused and thought that Ben was the real deal and PEter was the clone... I didn't really read the saga, I just did a lot of research. Then Ben convinced Kaine to own up and protect Peter during the trial... again, didn't Kaine have some sort of claws?

Yeah now I remember. The whole Norman thing confused things even more. Kaine wanted Peter, who he thought was Ben, the life he couldn't have, but it turned out to be Peter anyways.....

2. Yes, Kaine has claws.

[Silicon Surfer]

Kaine. Even though its over Wolverine vs Hulk was done by Marvel in a What If that finished the fight in which Wolverine first appeared. In this version Wolverine easily avoided every attack and eventually killed the Hulk. Also people have mentioned Hulks regeneration, however if this fight follows the usual rules this would be Hulk before the regeneration.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Using comic logic to vote, Spider-Man wins.

[XwolverineX]

Scarlet-Spider

[3dman27]

SCARLET SPIDER
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/ScarletSpider.jpg

[B
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[POWdER-man]

Updated results:

9 Spider-man
7 Kaine
6 Scarlet Spider
1 Spidercide

[Red X]

Spidercide

[Ahura Mazda]

Kaine

[blah]

Wow, cool match!
I think Kaine would win.

[JeanGrey[GR]]

Spider Man

[Bastila]

Spider-man

Kain

[Sparta*]

ummm...you have to choose one Bastila

[Darth Wolverine]

Spider-Man.

[Quentin Beck]

Kaine :)

[Genesis 1.0]

Kaine

[POWdER-man]

The original and Kaine are neck and neck, Scarlet is falling behind and there is no love for Spidercide.

11 Spider-man
11 Kaine
6 Scarlet Spider
2 Spidercide

BTW Bastila, I didn't count your vote because you have to pick ONE winner. Let me know who you choose.

[Mazrim Taim]

kaine because he's faster than the other 3 and he's got claws.

[Midnight Ice]

Kaine:xmen:

[bkhedr]

Spider-man

[Wilderbeast]

kaine

[Horseman Gambit]

Spider-man, can't beat the Original

[Chunin]

kaine! cos speed kills.

[Hellstormer]

Scarlet Spider

[POWdER-man]

Kaine takes the lead...

15 Kaine
13 Spider-man
7 Scarlet Spider
2 Spidercide

[DeGenerate10]

Spider-Man

[wiegeabo]

Scarlet Spider