Marvel Comics Character Tournament!!!

[XFanTim]

Actually, no. According to Chris Claremont, the creator of Sabretooth, Wolverine has never won against Sabretooth and always came within inch of killing him(Wolverine). So you're wrong.
Bullcrap. How about you go and read the actual comics instead of just talking out of your ass and throwing out "quotes" without citing where you got them from. Anyone can say "Claremont said this" or "Stan Lee said that", but it doesn't mean squat if you can't show it in print.

And for your information:

Wolverine won an issue-long fight and put a claw through Sabretooth's brain right before the AOA storyline. That's why after the AOA Sabretooth was brain-damaged for months. (Wolverine #90 (http://www.geocities.com/x_villains/sabre/wolverine090.jpg))

When Apocalypse wanted to choose a new horseman, he had Sabretooth (with adamantium) fight Wolverine (without it), and Wolverine won, so Apocalypse took the adamantium out of Sabretooth and put it back in Wolverine, who became the new Death. (Wolverine #145 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldauto=657))

During the Mutant Massacre storyline, Wolverine fought Sabretooth in the Morlock tunnels in an effort to rescue the Morlock Healer. Logan ended up bringing a wall down on Sabretooth. (Uncanny X-men #212 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=371))

Read the comics!

[TheFalcon]

Moleman

[Jecht]

Mojo, no doubt.

[Silver Sable]

Mojo

[Colossal Spoons]

Good thing it's a 1 on 1 fight cuz Spiral would destroy the moleys.

[3dman27]

moleman

[Silicon Surfer]

Mojo easily. as I recall mojo has major magic at least for offense.

[Red X]

Mole Man

[Hellstormer]

Mole Man

[Bastila]

Mole man

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Bullcrap. How about you go and read the actual comics instead of just talking out of your ass and throwing out "quotes" without citing where you got them from. Anyone can say "Claremont said this" or "Stan Lee said that", but it doesn't mean squat if you can't show it in print.

And for your information:

Wolverine won an issue-long fight and put a claw through Sabretooth's brain right before the AOA storyline. That's why after the AOA Sabretooth was brain-damaged for months. (Wolverine #90 (http://www.geocities.com/x_villains/sabre/wolverine090.jpg))

When Apocalypse wanted to choose a new horseman, he had Sabretooth (with adamantium) fight Wolverine (without it), and Wolverine won, so Apocalypse took the adamantium out of Sabretooth and put it back in Wolverine, who became the new Death. (Wolverine #145 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldauto=657))

During the Mutant Massacre storyline, Wolverine fought Sabretooth in the Morlock tunnels in an effort to rescue the Morlock Healer. Logan ended up bringing a wall down on Sabretooth. (Uncanny X-men #212 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=371))

Read the comics!

PWNED!!!!!

[theoneandonly]

can i request a match please sparta

cloak vs dagger

and

doppelganger vs spidey

[LongDong]

Bullcrap. How about you go and read the actual comics instead of just talking out of your ass and throwing out "quotes" without citing where you got them from. Anyone can say "Claremont said this" or "Stan Lee said that", but it doesn't mean squat if you can't show it in print.

And for your information:

Wolverine won an issue-long fight and put a claw through Sabretooth's brain right before the AOA storyline. That's why after the AOA Sabretooth was brain-damaged for months. (Wolverine #90 (http://www.geocities.com/x_villains/sabre/wolverine090.jpg))

When Apocalypse wanted to choose a new horseman, he had Sabretooth (with adamantium) fight Wolverine (without it), and Wolverine won, so Apocalypse took the adamantium out of Sabretooth and put it back in Wolverine, who became the new Death. (Wolverine #145 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldauto=657))

During the Mutant Massacre storyline, Wolverine fought Sabretooth in the Morlock tunnels in an effort to rescue the Morlock Healer. Logan ended up bringing a wall down on Sabretooth. (Uncanny X-men #212 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=371))

Read the comics!

Ummm he brought a wall down between them, not on top of him. For two reasona nd if you read that issue you will know them. Wolverine has won maybe 2 rounds between the two. Sabretooth is bigger, faster and stronger than Wolverine. For Wolverine to win this fight takes more than just fighting skill.

[Unleashed]

Mole Man

[XFanTim]

Ummm he brought a wall down between them, not on top of him. For two reasona nd if you read that issue you will know them. Wolverine has won maybe 2 rounds between the two. Sabretooth is bigger, faster and stronger than Wolverine. For Wolverine to win this fight takes more than just fighting skill.
Mutant Massacre was a long time ago so I may not be remembering it exactly, but he damn near killed Sabretooth the other two times (the mansion fight especially). And the Apocalypse fight was with Sabretooth having the advantage of adamantium and he lost anyway. The only really definitive wins I can think of that Sabretooth had were also when he had the adamantium advantage. Or when he caught Wolverine by surprise. Most of the others were inconclusive drawn out battles, or a few clear cut Wolverine victories like the ones I mentioned.

Cite some examples of Sabretooth clearly beating Wolverine if you want to claim he's a lot better. Bigger and stronger, yes, but Wolverine still finds a way to win more often than he loses.

[blah]

I don't know much about Mole Man, but I'll give the fight to him. He got more mobility than that Fat Yellow bastard. And since I assume this fight is between only the two of them, i.e. no minions, so mobility is a big factor.

[XFanTim]

At any rate, the claim he never wins is clearly false, as he won definitively in Wolverine #90 and Wolverine #145, and even if he didn't fare that well in Mutant Massacre he did save the Healer like he was trying to.

EDIT: Wolverine also had a hard fought victory over Sabretooth in X-Men #164 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=2270), albeit "off camera", so we're kind of going on Logan's word that he won.

But I'll stop derailing the thread now. I'll vote Mole Man, on the grounds that he's probably two small and quick for Mojo to grab hold of. Not that Mole Man is all that quick, but Mojo is fat and not at all manuverable, plus less accustomed to hand-to-hand fighting.

[Sachsmachine]

I'm voting Mojo, I'd take a good look at his powers in wiki if I were you. I dunno what powers moleman has but I doubt he has a chance. Especially if you give Mojo is levitating chair thing.

[LongDong]

Mutant Massacre was a long time ago so I may not be remembering it exactly, but he damn near killed Sabretooth the other two times (the mansion fight especially). And the Apocalypse fight was with Sabretooth having the advantage of adamantium and he lost anyway. The only really definitive wins I can think of that Sabretooth had were also when he had the adamantium advantage. Or when he caught Wolverine by surprise. Most of the others were inconclusive drawn out battles, or a few clear cut Wolverine victories like the ones I mentioned.

Cite some examples of Sabretooth clearly beating Wolverine if you want to claim he's a lot better. Bigger and stronger, yes, but Wolverine still finds a way to win more often than he loses.

Actually in the Mutant Massacre the mansion fight was clearly Sabretooth toying with Wolverine. Wolverine did stab Sabes in the leg but Sabes has seemed to get off on messing with WQolverine and getting him to let the berserker out. In the mansion He even tossed Wolverine through the roof of the mansion then went after him, they ended up in the pool then fighting across the grounds with Sabretooth commenting on how Wolverine's blood tastes sweet and **** like that. They then ended up in the ocean where Rogue flew downa nd pulled Wolverine out of the fight before he got killed. Now on the Bridge Wolverine and he went at it, wolverine stabbing him in the heart then tossing him onto the Mutant who basically nullifies other mutant's powers before he jumped off the bridge before he got tore to pieces with shrapnel from that one guy with the big ass machine gun. The only other time they fought in that series was in the tunnels and Sabretooth had the advantage but Wolverine brought downt he tunnel between them so he could take the healer back to the mansion and save lives.

My take on it has always been that Sabretooth is far more dangerous "power" wise. Bigger, stronger faster and a ton meaner. However he is way too cocky sort of like Darth Maul in menace. Kicked Obi Wan's ass but got cocky and paid the price. Sabretooth has beaten Wolverine a huge percentage of times but he gets cocky, and againsts omeone who heas as much heart and fight in hi as Wolverine dows you will never actually win unless you finish him.

I sold my old comic collection but there was one Wolverine issue where all night long Sabretooth had been stalking wolverine. Wolverine knew someone was there but could not figure out who. He then was on a ferry crossing the hudson and Sabretooth came up behind him, ripped out his throat and tossed him in the river laughing the whole time. Knowing he would live but not really wanting to kill him. Without Wolverine around he loses much of his joy in life. He gets off on tormenting him. So that said we all know Wolverine is a bad ass scrapper, but he is not nearly as bad ass ability wise as Sabretooth. He however far surpasses Sabretooth in heart and just as important honor. Those things will always keep him in the fight.

Sorry for any typos, eating lunch at the same time.

[XFanTim]

I'm voting Mojo, I'd take a good look at his powers in wiki if I were you. I dunno what powers moleman has but I doubt he has a chance. Especially if you give Mojo is levitating chair thing.
How often has Mojo used those supposed magical powers wiki attributes to him? Generally he seems to rely on Spiral for anything magical.

[LongDong]

At any rate, the claim he never wins is clearly false, as he won definitively in Wolverine #90 and Wolverine #145, and even if he didn't fare that well in Mutant Massacre he did save the Healer like he was trying to.

EDIT: Wolverine also had a hard fought victory over Sabretooth in X-Men #164 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=2270), albeit "off camera", so we're kind of going on Logan's word that he won.

But I'll stop derailing the thread now. I'll vote Mole Man, on the grounds that he's probably two small and quick for Mojo to grab hold of. Not that Mole Man is all that quick, but Mojo is fat and not at all manuverable, plus less accustomed to hand-to-hand fighting.

Doesn't that suck? One of the coolest rivalries in comics, next to Batman and Joker, and they don't show a fight that ended that way? Those claws, the great equalizer!!

This is supposed to be a solid collection of issues featuring the blood fued

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0785113975/103-8954652-6232662?v=glance&n=283155

[XFanTim]

Actually in the Mutant Massacre the mansion fight was clearly Sabretooth toying with Wolverine. Wolverine did stab Sabes in the leg but Sabes has seemed to get off on messing with WQolverine and getting him to let the berserker out. In the mansion He even tossed Wolverine through the roof of the mansion then went after him, they ended up in the pool then fighting across the grounds with Sabretooth commenting on how Wolverine's blood tastes sweet and **** like that. They then ended up in the ocean where Rogue flew downa nd pulled Wolverine out of the fight before he got killed. Now on the Bridge Wolverine and he went at it, wolverine stabbing him in the heart then tossing him onto the Mutant who basically nullifies other mutant's powers before he jumped off the bridge before he got tore to pieces with shrapnel from that one guy with the big ass machine gun. The only other time they fought in that series was in the tunnels and Sabretooth had the advantage but Wolverine brought downt he tunnel between them so he could take the healer back to the mansion and save lives.

My take on it has always been that Sabretooth is far more dangerous "power" wise. Bigger, stronger faster and a ton meaner. However he is way too cocky sort of like Darth Maul in menace. Kicked Obi Wan's ass but got cocky and paid the price. Sabretooth has beaten Wolverine a huge percentage of times but he gets cocky, and againsts omeone who heas as much heart and fight in hi as Wolverine dows you will never actually win unless you finish him.

I sold my old comic collection but there was one Wolverine issue where all night long Sabretooth had been stalking wolverine. Wolverine knew someone was there but could not figure out who. He then was on a ferry crossing the hudson and Sabretooth came up behind him, ripped out his throat and tossed him in the river laughing the whole time. Knowing he would live but not really wanting to kill him. Without Wolverine around he loses much of his joy in life. He gets off on tormenting him. So that said we all know Wolverine is a bad ass scrapper, but he is not nearly as bad ass ability wise as Sabretooth. He however far surpasses Sabretooth in heart and just as important honor. Those things will always keep him in the fight.

Sorry for any typos, eating lunch at the same time.
I think you make a good point actually -- Sabretooth can give better than he gets in a lot of their fights, but Wolverine's better at finishing it.

Doesn't that suck? One of the coolest rivalries in comics, next to Batman and Joker, and they don't show a fight that ended that way?Yeah, that was just bad writing.

[My appologies to Sparta for getting so off topic.]

[Sparta*]

can i request a match please sparta

cloak vs dagger

and

doppelganger vs spidey

Thanks for the requests :up:

If anyone wants to see a match-up, don't hesitate to request it :supes:





[My appologies to Sparta for getting so off topic.]

No worries man...you guys were debating about characters, not spamming, so i'm okay with it :up:

[Genesis 1.0]

Mojo, he's got that laser and Mole Man's never shown much hand to hand prowess to overcome superior weaponry.

As to the Logan/Sabertooth deal, if you recollect right after Juggernaut supposedly betrayed the X-Men and Sammy was killed, Sabertooth, Exodus, and the rest of the boys attacked the mansion. Sabertooth and Logan squared off and Sabertooth said, "You again, runt? You do realize that we can cut each other to pieces and it still wouldn't be over between us." Logan pops the claws, "As long as your pieces ain't touching my pieces." At the end of the issue, only Logan meets back up with the team and tells them Sabertooth won't be bothering anyone for a while. If Logan can take him alone, just how the hell would Saberooth take down him AND Deathstrike?!

[POWdER-man]

meh...Moleman...mobility is definitely a factor for me...

[Sparta*]

12 - 5 for Moleman so far...

[Vanguard07]

I'd go with Moleman. Mojo's more powerfull but he's cowardly. When faced with combat he tends to shrivel up and cower. Moleman actually has reasonably good fighting skill and a lazer beam from his staff.

I cant imagine Mojo doing much by way of dodging lazers.

[LongDong]

Matchups I would like to see is Colossus vs The Thing followed by Haley Joel Osment vs McCauley Culkin.

[Colossal Spoons]

Old and no

[Toby_Temple]

Bullcrap. How about you go and read the actual comics instead of just talking out of your ass and throwing out "quotes" without citing where you got them from. Anyone can say "Claremont said this" or "Stan Lee said that", but it doesn't mean squat if you can't show it in print.

And for your information:

Wolverine won an issue-long fight and put a claw through Sabretooth's brain right before the AOA storyline. That's why after the AOA Sabretooth was brain-damaged for months. (Wolverine #90 (http://www.geocities.com/x_villains/sabre/wolverine090.jpg))

When Apocalypse wanted to choose a new horseman, he had Sabretooth (with adamantium) fight Wolverine (without it), and Wolverine won, so Apocalypse took the adamantium out of Sabretooth and put it back in Wolverine, who became the new Death. (Wolverine #145 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldauto=657))

During the Mutant Massacre storyline, Wolverine fought Sabretooth in the Morlock tunnels in an effort to rescue the Morlock Healer. Logan ended up bringing a wall down on Sabretooth. (Uncanny X-men #212 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=371))

Read the comics!

Calm damn. Look at your blood pressure. LOL.

Yeah. And Hulk lost to a giant snake. Want to take that seriously? I admit its myfault not being able to post what Claremont stated. Wolverine has never won against Sabretooth in an all-out, kill or be killed berserk fight. And in almost all comics about them, its Sabretooth who seeks out Wolverine, so he could kill him. And even when Sabretooth had no adamantium, Wolverine has not come up with an all hands down win. So read all comics about both of them. Don't choose what comics you want to believe.

[Toby_Temple]

And for the new match up, I'm voting for Moleman. Mojo's not good at one on one combats.

[LongDong]

Old and no

Old? I did a search and it has not been done.

[Jecht]

Actually, yeah, Thing vs Colossus has been done.

[Unleashed]

Who won?

[Jecht]

I'm not totally sure but I think it was Thing.

[Unleashed]

Oh, good

[XFanTim]

Wolverine has never won against Sabretooth in an all-out, kill or be killed berserk fight. And in almost all comics about them, its Sabretooth who seeks out Wolverine, so he could kill him. And even when Sabretooth had no adamantium, Wolverine has not come up with an all hands down win. So read all comics about both of them. Don't choose what comics you want to believe.
How can you continue to say Wolverine has never had a hands down win, even after I listed both Wolverine #90 and Wolverine #145 where he had clear-cut, hands-down victories? In #90 he put a claw straight through his head. You talk about choosing what comics you want to believe, but if even one time he had a clear-cut victory, then your claim that he never had a clear-cut win is false. Are you ignoring those two comics?

It's possible Claremont actually said what you claim he did, but if so it must have either (A) been before those issues happened, or (B) he didn't know about them. Because it's right there in print. Wolverine has beaten Sabretooth in an all-out fight.

[rodhulk]

Moleman.

[Sparta*]

Old? I did a search and it has not been done.

Yeah, the search has been messed up lately. It doesn't search past a certain date anymore...and that sucks because I can't look for old school match-ups now unless I scroll through the hundreds of pages! :(

Victor Lensherr is right though, it has been done and I think Thing won

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

M M M M Mole-Mannnnnnnnnnn!!!!!

[Toby_Temple]

How can you continue to say Wolverine has never had a hands down win, even after I listed both Wolverine #90 and Wolverine #145 where he had clear-cut, hands-down victories? In #90 he put a claw straight through his head. You talk about choosing what comics you want to believe, but if even one time he had a clear-cut victory, then your claim that he never had a clear-cut win is false. Are you ignoring those two comics?

It's possible Claremont actually said what you claim he did, but if so it must have either (A) been before those issues happened, or (B) he didn't know about them. Because it's right there in print. Wolverine has beaten Sabretooth in an all-out fight.

In the issue where Wolverine struck his claws through Sabretooth's head, it was a plot to make Sabretooth resistant to telepathy. And Sabretooth taunted Wolverine to kill him. It wasn't an all out fight coz Sabretooth did not went all out, period. And Sabretooth being comatosed by such a blow is incosistent with other comics. His healing factor could have kept him conscious. In short, I did not take that issue seriously as the the issue where Hulk was defeated by a huge python.:) And on 145, its another plot device to turn Wolvering into Death. Wolverine already had a hard time fighting Sabretooth without adamantium bones. So its very not plausible for him to beat Sabretooth with indestructible bones all by himself. So I never took it seriously either.

Regardless of what I believe, Wolverine winning against Sabretooth in a one on one browl is already a comic, movie and tv fact. I just don't take it seriously as a plausible event. Just like that I don't take the fact that Hulk can be beaten by a giant python seriously as a plausible one.

[Toby_Temple]

Mojo, he's got that laser and Mole Man's never shown much hand to hand prowess to overcome superior weaponry.

As to the Logan/Sabertooth deal, if you recollect right after Juggernaut supposedly betrayed the X-Men and Sammy was killed, Sabertooth, Exodus, and the rest of the boys attacked the mansion. Sabertooth and Logan squared off and Sabertooth said, "You again, runt? You do realize that we can cut each other to pieces and it still wouldn't be over between us." Logan pops the claws, "As long as your pieces ain't touching my pieces." At the end of the issue, only Logan meets back up with the team and tells them Sabertooth won't be bothering anyone for a while. If Logan can take him alone, just how the hell would Saberooth take down him AND Deathstrike?!

I base my conclusion on sheer power. Sabretooth is probably the strongest among the three. Aside from other abilites, all three have equal healing factors and they use claws as an additional weapon. All three are agile and are extremely good at close combat. But Sabretooth has enbraced the beast within himself making him more vicious. He is also a bloodthirsty mercenary, thus he, among the three, would go all out. That practically is his advantage over the two.:)

[Toby_Temple]

Genesis 1.0 and XFanTim, I'm defending the Chris Claremont's incarnation of Sabretooth(the image posted was Chris' Sabretooth as well) which was the original one. So if we are talking about another incarnation, then I believe its a different story. And I should have mentioned this earlier. Sorry.:)

[3dman27]

suggestion 3dman vs triathalon

[Sparta*]

suggestion 3dman vs triathalon

I'll see what I can do :up:

16 - 5 is the final tally for Mole Man!

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg



BLACK WIDOW
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/BlackWidow.jpg




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp



SILVER SABLE
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/SilverSable.jpg

[theoneandonly]

sable

[3dman27]

natasha

[bkhedr]

The Widow

[TheFalcon]

Black Widow

[3dman27]

i wonder what silver sable the poster thinks of this match up?

[Silicon Surfer]

The Black Widow definately. She's one of only two people that Nick Fury is actually afraid of. The other being the original Spider Woman.

[blah]

I would say Silver Sable, because she is more organized while Natasha is like a Bond's villain girl.

[Genesis 1.0]

Silver Sable, she's shown herself to be just as capable as Natasha in ever showing, she's imply underrated.

[Hellstormer]

Silver Sable

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Bw :d

[LongDong]

Sable, just as deadly hand to hand and she has more toys.

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah, I really wish they'd show her MORE often, but at least we see her in Ultimate Spiderman.

[LongDong]

Yeah, I really wish they'd show her MORE often, but at least we see her in Ultimate Spiderman.

For some reason I am picturing those horrible "swimsuit" issues Marvel put out some years back. lol, wow.

[Silver Sable]

We had this battle all ready a while ago :p

[Genesis 1.0]

For some reason I am picturing those horrible "swimsuit" issues Marvel put out some years back. lol, wow.

Horrible is NOT the word I'd use.:up:

And SILVER SABLE not voting for Silver Sable?! Alright lady, what'd you do with the real Silver Sable!:mad:

[blah]

I wonder if marvel will ever redo those swimsuits specials
;) hehehe

[Silver Sable]

Horrible is NOT the word I'd use.:up:

And SILVER SABLE not voting for Silver Sable?! Alright lady, what'd you do with the real Silver Sable!:mad:

What's the use of voting if we had this fight all ready?

[LongDong]

I wonder if marvel will ever redo those swimsuits specials
;) hehehe

Trust me, you will get way more satisfaction from an issue of Penthouse ;)

[Vanguard07]

I vote Black Widow. She was an Avenger. Hell she even led the avengers briefly. Sable's a merc. She's terribly skilled and impressive but she doesnt operate at the same level.

Good fight though.

[taskmaster]

The widow

[Sparta*]

What's the use of voting if we had this fight all ready?

This thread has 500 pages.......rematches are bound to happen sometimes

[Vanguard07]

true. This thread's been on for a lot longer than i've been a member. Rematches give people like me a chance to voice my opinion on a good match.

[Kmack]

Black Widow

Awesome pic of Silver Sable btw Sparta:up:

[Silver Sable]

This thread has 500 pages.......rematches are bound to happen sometimes

Very well

I vote for my idol

[POWdER-man]

Black Widow

[Phaedrus45]

Black Widow.

[Toby_Temple]

Both are skilled in martial arts, using weapons and tactics. But Silver Sable is a mercenary and Black Widow is a spy. So basically, Silver Sable has enough killer instincts to do what is necessary to win. So I'm voting for Silver Sable.:)

[rodhulk]

Silver Sable

[Anubis]

Both are skilled in martial arts, using weapons and tactics. But Silver Sable is a mercenary and Black Widow is a spy. So basically, Silver Sable has enough killer instincts to do what is necessary to win. So I'm voting for Silver Sable.:)

Widow's a killer too. Spy work often times involves assasination and flat out murder from time to time. They don't train you in the Red Room on how to win a slap fight.

Widow takes this one. But I would totally pay to see this.

[Silver Sable]

Don't forget that SS has the Wild Pack to back her up http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Anubis]

Yeah, she is a cheater.

[Toby_Temple]

Widow's a killer too. Spy work often times involves assasination and flat out murder from time to time. They don't train you in the Red Room on how to win a slap fight.

Widow takes this one. But I would totally pay to see this.

I never said she wasn't. Silver Sable on the other hand has a track record for using methods most heroes would not recommend. So she is quite the female Punisher in dealing with enemies.

[Sparta*]

11 - 8 is the final tally for Black Widow!

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


RED SKULL
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/scan.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


BULLSEYE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Bullseye2.jpg

[Lady Stormcrow]

I'm gonna go with bullseye

[TheFalcon]

Bullseye

[iambilly81]

bullseye. wouldnt want that red skull showing 24-7. plus bullseye is more of a jackass. and that is always good.

[Sachsmachine]

If were talking the Red Skull that is basicly a clone of Cap, then I go Skull. If not then I have to go Bullseye.

[Jecht]

Red Skull

[Red X]

Red Skull

[Anubis]

The Skull. He's basically Cap, and theres noway Bullseye could take Cap.

[Horseman Gambit]

Red Skull

[XFanTim]

I'll go with Bullseye. Red Skull has the physical abilities of Cap, but I don't think he trains as hard in hand-to-hand combat. And I think that's enough to give Bullseye the edge.

[3dman27]

Red Skull
agreed

[POWdER-man]

I will give it to Bullseye, just being thrown in a match Bullseye can can attack from greater distances with almost perfect (and deadly) accuracy.

[Sachsmachine]

Deadly accuracy don't mean diddly if you can get out of the way before it gets there

[Silver Sable]

Red Skull

[LongDong]

Deadly accuracy don't mean diddly if you can get out of the way before it gets there

The Skull is not that fast. These two guys walk into a warehouse on opposite ends, not knwoing a thing about the other one, but told they must kill anybody else they find in there, Bulleye comes out on top easy.

Skull might be stronger and quicker but remember, he knows nothing about the accuracy or speed of BUllseye. Not having Caps shield to protect himself he takes on to the body then one to the head, end of story.

Hand to hand, Bullseye is more trained and has adamantium bones.

[Guyverjay]

Red Skull

[Colossal Spoons]

Bullseye, his accuracy and range are too much.

[Genesis 1.0]

Red Skull is the evil Cap with roughly the same skills just used in a varient, so could Bullseye take Cap without a shield?


Red Skull

[Sparta*]

8 - 7 for Red Skull so far...

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Red Skull

[Silicon Surfer]

Bullseye. Great traning, better class and variety of playmates on average.

[Hellstormer]

Red Skull

[TwoMinutesHate]

Bullseye. He was awesome in the movie.


PS: Sparta, I agree: GO! FLAMES! GO!

[Vanguard07]

Red Skull. He's an even match with Cap in hand to hand and Cap outclasses bullseye. Also Skull may not have Cap's shield but he usually carries a pistol at very least. Cap with a gun would be like bullseye's worst nightmare.

[LongDong]

Red Skull. He's an even match with Cap in hand to hand and Cap outclasses bullseye. Also Skull may not have Cap's shield but he usually carries a pistol at very least. Cap with a gun would be like bullseye's worst nightmare.

If skull gets a pistol then so does Bullseye, hands down Bullseye wins.

[Vanguard07]

Why would bullseye get a pistol just cause Skull does? I was just going by the regular weapons and paraphenilia of the two characters. Thats like saying if Captain America gets a shield so does bullseye. And I disagree that Bullseye wins hands down.
Bullseye regularly gets his ass handed to him by the Punisher, Daredevil etc. Skull is physically superior to both of those characters in every way and probably just as skilled. Plus he's a brilliant strategist and he's a sadistic bastard. He wouldnt hesitate at all to use inhumane and brutal tactics.

Honestly I think Bullseye's outclassed here.

[LongDong]

Why would bullseye get a pistol just cause Skull does? I was just going by the regular weapons and paraphenilia of the two characters. Thats like saying if Captain America gets a shield so does bullseye. And I disagree that Bullseye wins hands down.

Bullseye regularly gets his ass handed to him by the Punisher, Daredevil etc. Skull is physically superior to both of those characters in every way and probably just as skilled UNLIKELY. Plus he's a brilliant strategist and he's a sadistic bastard. He wouldnt hesitate at all to use inhumane and brutal tactics.AS IS BULLSEYE, EVEN MORE SO.



Honestly I think Bullseye's outclassed here.


Bullseye usually has a pistol as well as other weapons on him. No way is Skull even close to being at the level Bullseye is wth any sort of projectile.

Bullseye also has fought Daredevil to the brink of death before and I have yet to see him get his ass handed to him by Punisher. You may want to change your choice of words. Handing someone their ass means totally dominating them. Bullseye typically loses to DD much the way way that Sabretooth loses to Wolverine the few times he has, they get cocky and like a cat with a mouse, play too much. Just because someone is bigger faster and stronger does not guarantee victory.

Bullseye is more trained than Skull from what I understand, plus he is tough as nails. I would not count him out. The man spends all of his time killing people or learning new ways to do so. He is one bad mutha.

[Vanguard07]

I havent read the punisher in a while. I dont remember the issue number but it was just after Frank Castle got the electric chair and was presumed dead. When he took over some mob family's organization. Or possibly right before he went to prison. It was close to that time anyway. And Punisher encountered Bullseye on a rooftop and beat the hell out of him.
Bullseye didnt land a hit. Punisher just put him down. That to me is handing him his ass. I've seen DD do it to but I cant remember the specifics as well.

Either way I stand by my believe that Skull is out of Bullseye's weightclass simply by virtue of being on equal footing with Cap in combat.

[blah]

In the words of Crossbones "The red Skull...He made killin' an art." So I vote for the original Psycho because of his vast experience. He stood against Cap's Shield and he didn't yeild.

[Vanguard07]

Serious question though: Has Bullseye ever fought Cap?

[The BatDude]

Skull would win he has been fighting against Cap before Bullseye was ever born

[rodhulk]

Skull.

[comicbookmaster]

Another hard one,thats good!! I would have to say that even bullseye is a great assassin,the red skull is a better commander of the old school and would send hordes and hordes of nazi/hydra agent to kill bullseye.
hard to kill some one when you have so many people trying to kill you!!!
red skull would probally steal a doombot and dress it up as him!

[Sparta*]

Bullseye. He was awesome in the movie.


PS: Sparta, I agree: GO! FLAMES! GO!

HELLS YEAH!!!!! The Flames beat down Anaheim 2-1 today!! Only 3 more wins and they take this series :)

[Sparta*]

13 - 9 is the final tally for Red Skull!! Next match-up shortly...

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

BLACK PANTHER
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/BlackPanther.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


DAREDEVIL
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Daredevil.jpg

[Ultimate DD]

If this were a fist fight, Daredevil could take this but Black Panther has the equipments so i guess bp take this.

[RSS]

^^ I agree, Black Panther.

[Red X]

Daredevil

[3dman27]

hornhead

[blah]

This is really hard for DD, fighting a guy whose equipments are made from a sound absorbing metal. He would be nearly blind against BP's tech. So I vote BP.

[Silver Sable]

Panther

[blah]

BTW, nice avvi Sparta*.
Nothin' is like hometown pride.
I'm Torontonian, so I'm obligated by law to proclaim 'Go, Leafs!'.

[TwoMinutesHate]

HELLS YEAH!!!!! The Flames beat down Anaheim 2-1 today!! Only 3 more wins and they take this series :)

And only 15 more for the Cup! lol. I vote for Daredevil.

[Sachsmachine]

Yeah I think DD would have a hard time with BP, will be a knock down drag out fight but in the end BP will still be conscious. He'll definatly be nursing some wounds for a while after though.

[Anubis]

Black Panther

[bkhedr]

T'challa takes this one by a hair

[Vanguard07]

Yeah I agree with Blah's point. BP's suit is lined with vibranium mesh and the soles of his boots are vibranium. His suit's specially designed for huge protection and huge stealth. That and BP's trained his whole life for stealth. He's one of the best at it in the world capable of sneaking up on almost anyone (he's managed to sneak up on major telepaths like cable even).
I'm not sure DD would even know he was in a fight till it was too late.

Well okay thats a bit of an exaggeration. DD would know BP was there probably. But the sound absorbsion would at least cancel out DD's normal advantages such as hearing their heart rate and detecting muscles tense and what not. He wouldnt be able to predict BP's moves like he does with most.

In terms of hand to hand skill i'd call them about even. but physically BP's enhanced human which would give him yet another advantage over DD.
Also BP's got his suit's claws and his vibro knives which are better suited to combat than DD's billy club. Also BP's a genius tactician (as well as a genius in science and technology) whereas DD's intellect lies mostly in legal issues (although granted he is an experienced super hero. I'm not trying to say he's a talentless newb or anything)

Basically all things considered I think Black Panther has pretty much every advantage in this fight and honestly I cant see anyway Daredevil could win.

My vote goes to T'Challa

[DBZ Master]

I agree with Vanguard.

My vote is for Black Panther.

[Sachsmachine]

Yeah T'challa definatly has it, but this is not to say that this is a landslide victory for him. He's gonna be going back to Wakanda needing medical attention for sure.

[STR1]

Black Panther

[blah]

Yeah T'challa definatly has it, but this is not to say that this is a landslide victory for him. He's gonna be going back to Wakanda needing medical attention for sure.
Yeah, but where would poor DD go to? Nobody loves him :(

[Genesis 1.0]

*Ignores the Huntress traitor Blah*

I'm voting for Black Panther because of the vibraium, it takes away both DD's sound advantage AND it's going to absorb the damage that he could deal out.

BP

[Superman \S/]

Edit

[blah]

*Ignores the Huntress traitor Blah*

There you go again! I apologised and apologised! I told you she meant nothing to me!

[Genesis 1.0]

Don't tell me, tell Elektra!

*Storms out in Emo fury*

[Sparta*]

There you go again! I apologised and apologised! I told you she meant nothing to me!

Don't tell me, tell Elektra!

*Storms out in Emo fury*

lol :p


12 - 2 for Black Panther so far...

[Sparta*]

And only 15 more for the Cup! lol. I vote for Daredevil.

Damn rights. Winning the first game in a new series is always a good advantage...it get's the momentum going :up:

BTW, nice avvi Sparta*.

Nothin' is like hometown pride.

I'm Torontonian, so I'm obligated by law to proclaim 'Go, Leafs!'.

Yeah, hometown pride is great :up:

I have family in Toronto and I don't mind the team (they aren't really one of my fave Canadian teams, but I respect them as a team none the less :up:)

[The BatDude]

if Black Panther could beat Captain America i think he could beat Daredevil
so in the end Panther would win

[theoneandonly]

i would say black panther

what is daredevils costume about
i likr it

[comicbookmaster]

BLACK PANTHER
Strength Level: The Black Panther is near the pinnicle of human physical perfection, his natural strength and abilities having been heightened by unidentified heart-shaped herb administered only to Wakandan kings during a sacred ascension ritual. THe herb os also only in Wakanda. While not superhuman, he is nearly as strong as a human being can become. He can lift (press) a maximum of 750 pounds with supreme effort.

DAREDEVIL
[B]Strength Level;Daredevil possesses the normal human strength of a man his age, height, and build who engages in intensive regular exercise. Daredevil's five sense are heightened to beyond that of even superhumanly enhanced sense. Although Murdock is blind, he can "see" by means of his "radar sense", which acts not unlike sonar. Daredevil is an Olympic level athlete and gymnast, possessing extraordinary agility, endurance, skill and balance. Daredevil's unique fighting style (a blend of ninjitsu, judo and American-style boxing) makes effective use of his Billy Club, which is used as both a baton and grappling hook.


I Think that this supports the fact,that black panther would whip the sight out of old horn head,even without the super herb BP would be able to out fight,and out class DD!!
THE BLACK PANTHER IS THE ****!!

But it would be a great fight !!:)

[rodhulk]

Panther.


And Sparta, I just hope my sens meet your dreaded Flames in the playoffs, if your team can somehow pull a miracle and make it that far, then my sens can get their rightful revenge from a fluke loss earlier in the season. :)

[Sparta*]

Panther.


And Sparta, I just hope my sens meet your dreaded Flames in the playoffs, if your team can somehow pull a miracle and make it that far, then my sens can get their rightful revenge from a fluke loss earlier in the season. :)

Miracle and make it that far?! The Flames were in the Stanley cup finals against Tampa Bay last season while the Senators were golfing :p If they make it again this year, it won't be a miracle by any stretch.

16 - 2 is the final tally for T'Challa!

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


HERCULES
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Hercules.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


ABOMINATION
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Abomination2.jpg

[3dman27]

mr H.

[Mr.Valentine]

Hercules, he handed Abom his ass last time... good old lampost

[rodhulk]

Miracle and make it that far?! The Flames were in the Stanley cup finals against Tampa Bay last season while the Senators were golfing :p If they make it again this year, it won't be a miracle by any stretch.

16 - 2 is the final tally for T'Challa!Bah....... The Sens have a curse or something in the playoffs (just look at both our team's respective wins/losses during the regular season, who did better and you'll see), but just as Boston in baseball had a curse for decades and broke it by winning the world series, so will the Sens this year (win the cup, that is). I really hope both our teams face each other, though, then we'll have to get into a betting game. I'll keep my fingers crossed for your flames. :D

And BTW, my vote goes for ABOMINATION in the current match.

[bkhedr]

The Lion of Olympus

[1987olds442]

As Mother Klump said, Hercules, Hercules, Hercules...

[Sachsmachine]

Herc Herc!!

[Silver Sable]

Hercules

[Anubis]

Herc

[TheFalcon]

Hercules

[Kmack]

Hercules

[theoneandonly]

hercules

[Genesis 1.0]

Hercules, Abomination used to be the shizz but after getting his ass handed to him by Hulk umteen times and then maniuplated and then...bah!

Hercules

[Guyverjay]

Abom got his ass handed to him by the surfer HAND TO HAND.

Surfer sucks hand to hand:D

[kamesan]

Hercules

[Superman \S/]

Herc

[theoneandonly]

lol i think this is an easy win

[Sparta*]

lol i think this is an easy win

Come on now, one person voted for Abomination :p

[theoneandonly]

:) hey sparta* you have 8,500 now

yay lets party :up:

[theoneandonly]

:) hey sparta* you have 8,500 now

yay lets party :up:

[Sparta*]

:) hey sparta* you have 8,500 now

yay lets party :up:

WOOT WOOT!! I'll bring the Beer :D

[Midnight Ice]

PARTY!!!!!!!!!

Herc:xmen:

[theoneandonly]

YAY I BRING WOMEN

score!!!

[The BatDude]

Hercules would give the Abomination the SMACKDOWN!!

[Warhammer]

^Layeth the Smackdown on his candy-ass, He would.

My vote is to Hercules, also, because Abomination is garbage compared to Hercules.

[XFanTim]

They may be a decent match in terms of strength, but Hercules has centuries of fighting experience. Herc's superior skill makes this one no contest.

[Toby_Temple]

No one likes the green ugly guy! And I mean no one!
Hercules wins this match.

[rodhulk]

Come on now, one person voted for Abomination :pYeah, whose the idiot who did that? :o ;)

[Vanguard07]

LoL. Now i think you guys are being too hard on old Emil. He's actually stronger than the hulk for the most part (hulk has to get good and pissed to match emil's strength) and he's more invulnerable. Plus he does have some fighting skills.
I'd still give this one to Herc cause of the centuries of combat experience but i think it'd be a hell of a close fight. (the herc mini fight with abomination was terrible writing).
Herc by a whisker.

[newmexneon]

Hercules

[comicbookmaster]

Yeah Hercules wins !!!

[Ahura Mazda]

Go with Hercules here.

[Sparta*]

Bah....... The Sens have a curse or something in the playoffs (just look at both our team's respective wins/losses during the regular season, who did better and you'll see), but just as Boston in baseball had a curse for decades and broke it by winning the world series, so will the Sens this year (win the cup, that is). I really hope both our teams face each other, though, then we'll have to get into a betting game. I'll keep my fingers crossed for your flames. :D

And BTW, my vote goes for ABOMINATION in the current match.

Only time can tell who the greatest hockey team will be...who will hoist Lord Stanley's cup over their heads in Victory while the other team wallows in shame and despair?? :cool:

23 - 1 is the final tally for Hercules with Rodhulk giving Abomination his lone point :p

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg



THING
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Thing2.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


SHE-HULK
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/SheHulk.jpg

[3dman27]

the erver lovin' blue eyed THING

ITS CLOBBERIN' TIME

[Ahura Mazda]

This is not the she-hulk who took out Champion I am guessing so I will go with Thing as well.

[bkhedr]

Benjy

[Midnight Ice]

She Hulk

Sparta* are you taking back over now since the semester is ending, or are we still doing the schedule thing?:xmen:

[1987olds442]

She-Hulk

[iambilly81]

i think she hulk just because ben would have a hard time beating the crap out of a girl. he would take it to easy on her and it would cost her.....

so i vote she hulk.

[iambilly81]

cost him not her.........my bad

[blah]

It's so sad to see bosom buddies at war.
I'll say the Thing, because he's a good street brawler who knows how to throw his weight around.

[Kmack]

Thing

[TheFalcon]

She-Hulk

[Quentin Beck]

She-Hulk

[LongDong]

Thing. He has beaten The Hulk who is far more powerful than She-Hulk.

[rodhulk]

Yeah, but let's not forget, the Hulk just beat the Thing with one hit. Thing said he had never been hit by the Hulk like that before. Therefore, my vote goes to:

SHE-HULK

[Vanguard07]

This is not the she-hulk who took out Champion I am guessing so I will go with Thing as well.

A) that was bad writing.
and B) Technically the Thing beat Champion too.

The Thing's got more fighting skills and more experience. They're probably relatively close in strength though. The Thing would win (assuming he's willing to hit a girl)

[rodhulk]

Only time can tell who the greatest hockey team will be...who will hoist Lord Stanley's cup over their heads in Victory while the other team wallows in shame and despair?? :cool:

23 - 1 is the final tally for Hercules with Rodhulk giving Abomination his lone point :p:o I am...


As for the sens, guess what. They played like crap yesterday and lost. I hate to say it but your Flames may go farther.... :(

[LongDong]

Yeah, but let's not forget, the Hulk just beat the Thing with one hit. Thing said he had never been hit by the Hulk like that before. Therefore, my vote goes to:

SHE-HULK

Assuming that the she-hulk is actually the hulk in drag.

Thing you must remmeber is that the Hulk and the She-Hulk are two different people.

[blah]

Assuming that the she-hulk is actually the hulk in drag.

Thing you must remmeber is that the Hulk and the She-Hulk are two different people.
"Hulk feel pretty in purple swimsuit."

[Silver Sable]

Thing

[XFanTim]

Thing. I'd say he's the more skilled fighter, and perhaps a little stronger too (although She-Hulk's strength has been up and down a bit.)

[LongDong]

"Hulk feel pretty in purple swimsuit."

I feel pretty
Oh so pretty
I feel pretty in my purple thong
And I pity
Any Thing who wants to fight me tonight
I feel charming
Oh so charming
It`s alarming how charming I feel
And so pretty
that I hardly can believe I`m real

See the pretty girl in the mirror there?
Who can that attractive girl be?
Such a pretty green face
Such a pretty purple dress
Such a pretty big muscles
Such a pretty me
I feel stunning
And entrancing
Feel like running
And dancing for joy
For I`m loved
By a pretty wonderful boy

[theoneandonly]

thing

[Silicon Surfer]

the She Hulk is just as strong if not stronger and Ben's a chauvinist. In the battles against Thundra they showed that he won't fight a woman. She Hulk wins easily.

[iambilly81]

the She Hulk is just as strong if not stronger and Ben's a chauvinist. In the battles against Thundra they showed that he won't fight a woman. She Hulk wins easily.

my point exactly, no way the thing could dish out the beating needed to take down she hulk do to the fact she is a girl.

[Hellstormer]

She-Hulk

[Sparta*]

:o I am...


As for the sens, guess what. They played like crap yesterday and lost. I hate to say it but your Flames may go farther.... :(

It happens sometimes man, don't worry :up: The Flames played like garbage yesterday too, and it cost them the game by one goal.

[Warhammer]

I'd have to say The Thing because I think his durablity is a bit better and his fighting skills are superior to She-Hulk's.

[Genesis 1.0]

She Hulk, I think she's got what it takes to take down Ben due to her higher durability.

[The BatDude]

im sorry Ben but She-Hulk could give you a run for your money.She-Hulk would win

[comicbookmaster]

She-hulk!!!ben could last toe to toe with jennifer but sooner or later that top of hers has got to come off and "bam" -just enough distraction for an well placed punch in the face!!!

[Sparta*]

She Hulk

Sparta* are you taking back over now since the semester is ending, or are we still doing the schedule thing?:xmen:

I'm going to take over again since the semester is at an end :up: Thanks for all the help MI and POWdER-man!

[POWdER-man]

Don't forget Phaedrus....

BTW Thing, edges slightly in strength, and durability, and probably can fight better....

Hey see the Spidey pic I got on the main page?...:D

[Sparta*]

Don't forget Phaedrus....

BTW Thing, edges slightly in strength, and durability, and probably can fight better....

Hey see the Spidey pic I got on the main page?...:D

I thanked Phaed a while back in PM, but yes, Thank you as well Phaed :up:

What Spidey pic are you talking about??

[POWdER-man]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/powderman_222/spidey.gif

[Sparta*]

Awesome dude! How did you get that pic??

[iambilly81]

its on the main page

[Sparta*]

its on the main page

But POWdER said...

Hey see the Spidey pic I got on the main page?...:D

so I assumed he took the picture, or found it and submitted it to the hype or something :p

[Toby_Temple]

I'm voting for Thing. He might be just as strong as She-Hulk but Ben has fought alot of stronger foes and prevailed.

[POWdER-man]

But POWdER said...



so I assumed he took the picture, or found it and submitted it to the hype or something :p

It's my pic (hence source POWdER-man), it's a long story but I have a lot more (recent) pics that I have taken in my thread contained in my sig...

When I first saw the figure it had a big white hood, I knew someone major was under there. I was hoping for blacksuit Spidey or even (dare we say) Venom but I will settle for normal spidey....they say tomorrow will have a lot usage of spider double, so we'll see. It was also reported that the Sandman double (in costume) was there today, but I didn't see it....

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/powderman_222/spideyhiding.gif

[Sparta*]

I vote for Thing bringing the final tally to 13 - 11 for ol' blue eyes.

Next match-up shortly...

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg



CAPTAIN AMERICA / IRON MAN / SCARLET WITCH
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/CaptainAmerica.jpghttp://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/IronMan.jpghttp://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/ScarletWitch.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

[Sparta*]

CYCLOPS / WOLVERINE / STORM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Cyclops.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Wolverine.jpghttp://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Storm.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


MR. FANTASTIC / HUMAN TORCH / INVISIBLE GIRL
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/MisterFantastic.jpghttp://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/HumanTorch.jpghttp://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/InvisibleGirl.jpg

[3dman27]

the avengers

[Sparta*]

I wanted to have a special match-up because this thread is about to reach 500 pages!!

This is an all out brawl between the 3 teams. Vote for the last team or team member(s) standing when the dust clears!!

[Ahura Mazda]

I think that I will go with the Avengers with reality altering uber Scarlet Witch fighting to the last against Storm.

I think F4 would have the best teamwork but not enough firepower. Storm could take out most on her own but she should be vulnerable to scarlet's hexes.

[XFanTim]

The battle begins:
-Cyclops fires his optic blast at Sue, who deflects it with her forcefield
-Wolverine charges at Capt. America, but his slash is blocked by Cap's shield.
-Torch sends an intenst burst of flame straght for Iron man, but Wanda intercepts the flame with a hex bolt, snuffing it out before it reaches its target.
-Stark fires back with his repulsor rays, knocking Torch out of the sky. (Torch is down)
-Stretching his arm, Reed snakes it around behind Wanda, catching her with a surprise blow that knocks her out (Wanda is down)
-As Cap continues to battle Wolverine, Cyclops angles a deflection shot off Sue's forcefield, which catches Cap in the back (Cap is down)
-Sue clocks Cyclops in the head with a forcefield, knocking him out (Cyclops is down)
-Storm fires a barrage of lightning at Iron Man blinding his sensors, while flinging Wolverine into the air with a gust of wind.
-Logan slashes through Iron Man's armor, tearing off a large piece of it. His systems malfunctioning, Stark crashes to the ground. (Iron Man is down).
-Reed's flexibility isn't enough to dodge an array of lightning bolts from Storm, but he flails as they hit him, catching Wolverine and conducting the electricity into him as well. Before Storm can halt her assault, her teammate is badly burned. (Reed and Logan are down).
- Sue slams Storm with an invisible forcefield, knocking her to the ground. (Storm is down).

Survivor: Invisible Woman

Winner: The Fantastic Four.

[rodhulk]

Avengers.

[Silver Sable]

Wolvie,Cyclops,and Storm

[Anubis]

The FF take this one.

[TheFalcon]

Cyclops, Wolverine and Storm

[Bastila]

Cyclops / Wolverine / Storm

[Silicon Surfer]

The X Men. They have more long range fire power and concealment by means of Storms fog. The fog could also be used to detect Sue while she is invisible. The usual rules for this thread would use the Scarlet Witch from the 90's when she did not have reality altering powers,only probability alteration.

[LongDong]

the She Hulk is just as strong if not stronger and Ben's a chauvinist. In the battles against Thundra they showed that he won't fight a woman. She Hulk wins easily.

lol. how does this make him a chauvinist? Seems more of a gentleman to me ;)

[blah]

HOLY CRAP! WOTTA AN AWESOME MATCH!!!!
I think I'll go with the Avengers because of a combination of the huge advantage that Iron Man's armour has, Scarlet witch's powers, and Cap's just do it attitude!
Cap deflects Cyke's optic blasts untill they hit mr. Fantastic, then he finishes cyke by destroying his visor thus surprising him into hitting other members of the team too. Iron man uses a force field to protect him while the scarlet witch uses her probability altering powers to make Cyke's ray hitting the other team players a certainty. It won't knock them down of course, but it will give the avengers the opening they need.

[Harlekin]

Avengers

[Lady Stormcrow]

500 pages woo!
but anyway, it'd be the FF
You can't lose with the invisible woman teamed up with the human 'supernova' torch, and the worlds smartest man!

[Sparta*]

Current standings...

5 - Avengers
3 - Fantastic Four
5 - X-men

[iambilly81]

i would go with the x-men. with wolverines healing powers... if it turns into a last man standing thing, hell be there, unless the witch really messes with him, but i doubt she would get the chance. plus storm could just blow them all away.

my vote x-men

[Superman \S/]

X-men as well.

[Hellstormer]

If Cyclops was Nightcrawler and Colossus was added I'd given it to them but since it's Cyclop and no Colossus I give it to Fantastic Four

[Genesis 1.0]

X-Men have Storm and Cyclops, who pack the most punch and range and then you've got Logan who's damn near impossible to kill or keep down for long and the longer this goes on, the more it favors him since he doesn't tire. So you've got a guy with long range beams, a women who can manipulate the elements, and a midget that won't stay down that just happens to have claws to make the ground troops look twice.

All in all this match is INSANE!

X-Men

[Sparta*]

Current standings...

5 - Avengers
4 - Fantastic Four
8 - X-men

[Kmack]

The Avengers

[Sparta*]

I'm going to vote for the FF

6 - Avengers
5 - Fantastic Four
8 - X-men

[LongDong]

Fantastic Four would win this. Better team work better variance of powers. Cap and or Wolverine get toasted right away by the Torch then it comes down to the range fighters and flyers. Sue with her Force Field can do some damage and would probably takeout Storm or Cyclops right away as they are deadly too. but I think the Human Torch is the wild card. He wins this.

[Sachsmachine]

Avengers

[taskmaster]

Avengers

[Sparta*]

8 - Avengers
6 - Fantastic Four
8 - X-men

This is getting interesting... ... ...

[Unleashed]

ff.

[Vanguard07]

I vote the X-men. Storm could lay some heavy fog down, cause emp's to mess with Iron Man's circuitry, lay in some heavy rain/ hail, lightning heavy winds etc to batter her the others and all the while Cyke could just get make sure logan's behind him and take off the visor. Wide Spread, full power blasts strathing the whole battlefield. With zero visibility from the weather and lightning strikes battering them they'd have no time to dodge or block the blasts and they'd go down.

Storm's got widespread powers. She can attack the whole battlefield at once and between EM shockwaves and Torrential Rain Both Iron Man and Human Torch are out of it. That leaves only the X-men with a flyer and the high ground is too big an advantage for the others to overcome.

X-men 90% sure.

[Unleashed]

Damn, so it should pretty much be: FF vs. Avengers vs. Storm

[Vanguard07]

LoL well if it was she'd still have a pretty good chance.

[Unleashed]

Mr F. would whoop them all

[Sparta*]

8 - Avengers
7 - Fantastic Four
9 - X-men

[Toby_Temple]

Congratz Sparta!:up: 500 pages and 12500 posts. What a thread!

And for the match up, I'm voting for the Fantastic Four. Sue could provide the protection FF needs against the X-Men and Avengers. The Reed would come up with an ingenius plan with Johnny. It would be hard but the Fantastic Four will win this match.