Marvel Comics Character Tournament!!!

[1987olds442]

Not to forget that Thanos is one of those "odd beings" He seems to be outside and unaffected by this universes usual laws of nature or reality :up:Apparently he can be affected by squirrels, so Dr. Strange could summon a bunch of squirrels to take down Thanos like Squirrel Girl did in the GLX-Mas Special...:joker:

http://corvusonline.net/thanos/GLX_thanos1.jpg

[Sparta*]

BAHAHAHAHAHA! That is so brutal! Will Thanos ever live down his defeat at the hands of Squirrel Girl? I think not...

[1987olds442]

BAHAHAHAHAHA! That is so brutal! Will Thanos ever live down his defeat at the hands of Squirrel Girl? I think not...Never! :joker:

[Venom.Symbiote]

You know, I haven't picked up a comic for quite some time so I thought Squirrel Girl was just some kind of inside joke that I wasn't in on. You're telling me that there really is a Squirrel Girl and she did beat Thanos. Was this in some kind of "What If..." or "What the..." type book or in a legit title? :venom:

[Sparta*]

100% totally legit. Real Thanos and everything :down

I don't know if I should bring up the Thanos-copter......

:p

[Zoken]

Uatu even confirmed the hit.

[Sparta*]

14 - 7 for Thanos so far...

^ Final tally

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg



H A V O K
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Havok.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


HUMAN TORCH
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/HumanTorch.jpg

[Silicon Surfer]

The Torch is much more skilled and at least as powerful and he can fly.

[Red X]

Human Torch

[Zoken]

Torcho

[Guyverjay]

You know, I haven't picked up a comic for quite some time so I thought Squirrel Girl was just some kind of inside joke that I wasn't in on. You're telling me that there really is a Squirrel Girl and she did beat Thanos. Was this in some kind of "What If..." or "What the..." type book or in a legit title? :venom:


Big load of bollocks, but because Slott wrote it everyone likes it:rolleyes:

[Guyverjay]

Yes :rolleyes:


Stop embarassing yourself:o

I posted scans of Spidey bashing up Iron man armour with a jesting Jobber aura comment (ie a joke, ever heard of one of them?) in a discussion about Spider-man vs Iron-man. All you've contributed is a couple of these "rolleyes" and you have the audacity to call my post pointless?

Can you not see what a hypocritical fool that makes you?:confused:

[Anubis]

Torch I guess

[Colossal Spoons]

Havok's not winning this one. I vote Torch.

[Guyverjay]

I go with Havok

His body projects plasma and he's immune to the heat, I doubt the torch could do anything to him

[XFanTim]

First of all, Thanos got beat by Squirrel Girl in a humor book. The whole fight was a joke (and a funny one, I thought), but has no place in a serious discussion of who would win a fight.

he lost his cosmic cube when HE made the earth trembly and spider-man had him arested by NYPD
That fight was out of continuity and took place in a comic that was aimed at young children.

[Kmack]

Human Torch

[Hellstormer]

Havok, isn't he suppose to be opne of the strongest mutants?

[XFanTim]

Umm... No. Next to Strange, Doom is the most powerful magician on the planet. He's next in line for "Sorcerer Supreme" if something happened to Strange. Now add all his technolgy, intellect and the fact that he is evil and would not hold back and there is a very good chance he would defeat Strange. It would be quite a battle either way.

Thanos is a different story. Strange could certainly hold his own, but in the end I think I'd have to go with Thanos.
As Guyverjay said, even if Doom is #2 in magic the difference between #2 and #1 is immense. Strange can defeat high level cosmic beings with no prep time -- Doom has difficulty dealing with the Fantastic Four (and needed a powerup from some demons to become a serious magical threat to them in "Unthinkable.") Check out this thread (http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t367940.html) for an indication of just how powerful Strange's magic is. (This is about the third time I've posted it in a few days, but people just keep underestimating Strange.)

I'm not saying Doom couldn't beat Strange, but he basically has to have prep time and the element of surprise to do it. Things like "technology and intellect" are much bigger advantages if you have prep-time. My point is that in a no prep fight Strange is a much bigger threat to Thanos or anyone else than Doom would be, because Strange has a massive amount of personal power that he can tap into whenever he wants -- he doesn't have to rely on prep-time.

Also, Doom is a poor choice to fight Thanos, 'cause Thanos has the same advantages as Doom (intellect, technology, resources, evil) and largely to an even greater degree. There's a reason it often takes the whole Marvel Universe to thwart one of Thanos's schemes, whereas Doom can be beaten by the FF alone.

I still think Strange would beat Thanos in a no-prep fight, though. Like Doom, Thanos is far more formidable when he has prep time, and in the comics he always goes into a fight prepared. But here it's no-prep only.

[TheFalcon]

Human Torch

[Guyverjay]

Havok, isn't he suppose to be opne of the strongest mutants?


He beat the Hulk:o

[XFanTim]

As for the current fight, it's kind of a tricky one. Havok's plasma blast carries both heat and impact (as opposed to Cyclops, who is impact-only), so even if Torch is immune to the heat, the impact should still knock him out. I'm not sure if Havok is immune to heat in general (in which case Torch would be screwed), or if he's just immune to the heat of his own blasts. If it's the latter, Torch could potentially burn him. But the thing is, I doubt Torch would be willing to severely burn Havok (since they're both heroes), whereas Havok can blast Torch into unconsciousness without seriously hurting him. There's really no way to burn someone into unconsciousness without injuring them. And the other tricks Torch sometimes uses to stop someone without hurting them -- e.g., creating a cage of flame around them -- wouldn't do anything to stop Havok's blasts.

So I say Havok wins, mostly because Torch would have to hold back more. If they're both fighting with "bloodlust", I'm not so sure.

[The BatDude]

I say Havok would win.

[R_y_u]

Goku

[Colossal Spoons]

I hate how hero vs hero fights always have tainted results due to "willingness to kill". It's such a major variable; we should just assume they're out for blood or that a telepath/illusionist has altered their minds.

[Silver Sable]

Torch

[Brainiac 8]

Goku


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Couldn't get anyone to talk in the other thread you created so you'd taint this one.

In this fight, I say Havok would take it.:up:

[rodhulk]

He beat the Hulk:oWasn't it just once. I know he didn't in another issue or two I have.




And I vote for the Torch.

[1987olds442]

Stop embarassing yourself:o

I posted scans of Spidey bashing up Iron man armour with a jesting Jobber aura comment (ie a joke, ever heard of one of them?) in a discussion about Spider-man vs Iron-man. All you've contributed is a couple of these "rolleyes" and you have the audacity to call my post pointless?

Can you not see what a hypocritical fool that makes you?:confused:You seem to be the only one embarassing yourself... you are even the one whom usually mentions that fights out of continuity don't count talk about being a hypocritical fool.

[1987olds442]

Human Torch :ff:

[psycho]

Torch

[Sachsmachine]

Johnny Storm.

Alex is not immune to all forms of heat. I'm sure Johnny would be too hot to handle. But I'm not saying this will be a landslide victory, Johnny will definatly be in rough shape after this one. On a side note: From what I understand Alex has trouble keeping his powers under complete control, a suit allows his added control. Whereas Johnny doen't need any special suit, just one that won't burn up so he won't end the fight naked.

[Guyverjay]

You seem to be the only one embarassing yourself... you are even the one whom usually mentions that fights out of continuity don't count talk about being a hypocritical fool.

Wow you took my post and then paraphrased it, go you:eek:

LOL and what does fights out of continuity have to do with it?

Ps look up the word "Joke" in the dictionary:rolleyes:

Getting all bent out of shape because I posted scans of Arno Stark, god you're sad:up:

[1987olds442]

Wow you took my post and then paraphrased it, go you:eek:

LOL and what does fights out of continuity have to do with it?

Ps look up the word "Joke" in the dictionary:rolleyes:

Getting all bent out of shape because I posted scans of Arno Stark, god you're sad:up:Wow, you are trying so hard to get attention aren't you and trying to be cleaver and failing at both points...so very sad...:down

This Sparta's thread you shouldn't try to spam up this thread...

[theoneandonly]

the torch

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

He is immune to the adverse effects of most forms of radiation and heat

Well I am sure Torch could turn up the heat enough to injure Havok, but like others have said, I am not sure he would be willing to do so.

Havok takes it.

[PaleRider]

Human Torch

[Sparta*]

I'm going to vote for Havok bringing the current tally to 14 - 7 for Johnny Storm

[Sparta*]

Wow you took my post and then paraphrased it, go you
LOL and what does fights out of continuity have to do with it?
Ps look up the word "Joke" in the dictionary
Getting all bent out of shape because I posted scans of Arno Stark, god you're sad

Wow, you are trying so hard to get attention aren't you and trying to be cleaver and failing at both points...so very sad...:down

This Sparta's thread you shouldn't try to spam up this thread...

It's just a versus thread guys, no need to get bent out of shape :up: That's what the rest of the hype is for :p

[Sparta*]

I hate how hero vs hero fights always have tainted results due to "willingness to kill". It's such a major variable; we should just assume they're out for blood or that a telepath/illusionist has altered their minds.

I vote based on the heroes going all out with their powers as opposed to holding back.

[rodhulk]

It's just a versus thread guys, no need to get bent out of shape :up: That's what the rest of the hype is for :pSee what your thread's causing, Sparta! :mad: :p

[Sparta*]

See what your thread's causing, Sparta! :mad: :p

lol it's usually peaceful in this thread, but sometimes stuff comes up. At least it happens less in here then most other threads on the Hype :p

[doctorstrange88]

How about Marvel's SWAMP THING vs MAN-THING?!?!?!?! WHICH "THING" WOULD WIN?!?!?! LOL!!!!!! :) I don't think I know how to answer that. I'll just pick any "THING". LOL! :) later guys!

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

How about Marvel's SWAMP THING vs MAN-THING?!?!?!?! WHICH "THING" WOULD WIN?!?!?! LOL!!!!!! :) I don't think I know how to answer that. I'll just pick any "THING". LOL! :) later guys!

I think that's been done hasn't it?

[Sparta*]

It was done in the Marvel vs DC thread, not too long ago as a matter of fact

[1987olds442]

lol it's usually peaceful in this thread, but sometimes stuff comes up. At least it happens less in here then most other threads on the Hype :pHey Sparta, I just wanted to say we all enjoy your thread at least I do, it is actual one of the few reasons I still come to the Hype. I ususally only login to check out your vs. thread, and a few others.

[1987olds442]

It was done in the Marvel vs DC thread, not too long ago as a matter of factThe result actually surprised me on that one as well.

[Sparta*]

Hey Sparta, I just wanted to say we all enjoy your thread at least I do, it is actual one of the few reasons I still come to the Hype. I ususally only login to check out your vs. thread, and a few others.

Thanks man, I appreciate that :up:

As long as people keep enjoying the match-ups and keep voting, i'll keep posting them :supes:

[Hellstormer]

The result actually surprised me on that one as well.
The final tally was 8-7 Man-thing.

[1987olds442]

The final tally was 8-7 Man-thing.I know it was a lot closer than I thought it would have been.
But it was a good match-up though...

[comicbookmaster]

plasma is much more powerful that fire-who controls plama?-that would be havok

[Toby_Temple]

I'm voting for HavoK. His plasma blasts could take Johnny out.
And I can't believe I missed the Thanos vs Dr. Strange match up! :mad:

[XFanTim]

I vote based on the heroes going all out with their powers as opposed to holding back.
For the most part I don't assume the heroes are "holding back", but I have been assuming they won't kill if it's not in character for them to do so.

But with this fight, I'm not sure how Torch takes out Havok without killing or at least seriously wounding him.

[Silicon Surfer]

In the first appearance of Blastaar, Johnny went one on one with him and used his flame to counter the concussive force of his blasts. He should also be able to do the same with Havok,thus making Havoks power useless against the Torch. The Torch on the other hand could create a vacuum around Alex by creating a flaming sphere.

[Sparta*]

For the most part I don't assume the heroes are "holding back", but I have been assuming they won't kill if it's not in character for them to do so.

But with this fight, I'm not sure how Torch takes out Havok without killing or at least seriously wounding him.

All the victor has to do is subdue his opponent, which depending on the character could be killing their opponent, disabling them, or knocking them out.

[Toby_Temple]

I'm changing my vote to Human Torch. I forgot that he could fly and move fast in the air. Speed would give Human Torch this battle.

[Sparta*]

I'm changing my vote to Human Torch. I forgot that he could fly and move fast in the air. Speed would give Human Torch this battle.

How could you forget that?! :p

[XFanTim]

All the victor has to do is subdue his opponent, which depending on the character could be killing their opponent, disabling them, or knocking them out.
Right, I understand that. I just mean it's really hard to knock someone out by burning them without seriously injuring them. (Whereas it's easy for Havok to knock Torch out, since his blasts carry more impact rather than just heat.)

Silicon Surfer's suggestion that Torch could create a sphere of fire to burn off all of Alex's oxygen is pretty good -- but I think Havok might be able to blast the fire away from him long enough to catch a breath.

[Silicon Surfer]

Blasting away the fire might not be possible since the Torch controls fire and can shape it by force of will. He should be able to maintain the shape by concentrating. His control of flames is much the same as Pyro.

[LongDong]

Torch.

How about the matchup of Rom Spaceknight vs Doctor Doom

[LongDong]

Torch.

How about the matchup of Rom Spaceknight vs Doctor Doom

[Genesis 1.0]

Havoc, as Guyver said, the heat would do his plasma oriented strengths little damage. The same can't be said of Johnny.

Havoc.

[LongDong]

Fire consumes oxygen. Torch is pretty fast a couple circles around Havok he runs out of air.

Per Marvel Comics:

Havok is a mutant with the superhuman ability to absorb ambient cosmic energy into the cells of his body, transform it in an unknown manner, and release it as waves of energy that heat the air in their path enough to turn it into plasma, which is a super-heated state of matter consisting of charged subatomic particles. These waves will emanate from his body in all directions unless he purposefully tries to channel them in a single direction, usually along the length of his arms. Havok is himself immune to the intense heat he creates, as well as the power blasts generated by his brother Cyclops.
Despite past accounts, the energy that Havok releases is not truly a concussive force. When Havok strikes an object with the waves of intensity of hot plasma, the sudden vast jump in temperature will often cause objects to shatter, explode, or seemingly disintegrate, and an observer might therefore wrongly think that the object had been struck by a concussive force. Should Havok direct his energy at the lowest level, he can project it towards a human being and his target will suffer a severe headache but will not burn up.

Havok's body is constantly in the process of absorbing cosmic radiation. When each of his body's power-storage cell enclaves reaches its capacity, excess cosmic energy is thereafter absorbed and immediately re-emitted in negligible quantities. Upon the total expenditure of all his available energy, it takes Havok's body about 16 hours to recharge to its peak level. The act of concentration involved in releasing his energy in anything other than an omnidirectional wave is physically exhausting for Havok if he continues it over an extended period of time.


Havok does not have any concussive force behind his blasts. How could he hurt Torch

[wiegeabo]

It's a hard call, but Havoc.

[Vanguard07]

Torch easilly. He's way faster, He can Fly. Those two alone are much bigger advantages than anything Havok's got.
Torch could burn up all of Havoks oxygen and knock him out or even just use fire to obscure his vision and drop something heavy on him. He's got way more control of his fire than Havok does of his plasma and Torch probably has just as much raw power as havok does.
Nova intensity flame ringing any bells?

Torch easilly.

[Sparta*]

18 - 10 is the final tally for the Human Torch!

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg



MALICE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/InvisibleWomanMalice2.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


SHADOW KING
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/ShadowKingPsylocke.jpg

[Sparta*]

***Alright, this match-up is the Invisible Woman possessed by MALICE vs Psylocke possessed by SHADOW KING :up: Happy Voting!***

[XFanTim]

Can Invisible Woman's forcefields block telepathy? If not, I think Malice would be in trouble.

[XFanTim]

Fire consumes oxygen. Torch is pretty fast a couple circles around Havok he runs out of air.

Per Marvel Comics:

Havok is a mutant with the superhuman ability to absorb ambient cosmic energy into the cells of his body, transform it in an unknown manner, and release it as waves of energy that heat the air in their path enough to turn it into plasma, which is a super-heated state of matter consisting of charged subatomic particles. These waves will emanate from his body in all directions unless he purposefully tries to channel them in a single direction, usually along the length of his arms. Havok is himself immune to the intense heat he creates, as well as the power blasts generated by his brother Cyclops.
Despite past accounts, the energy that Havok releases is not truly a concussive force. When Havok strikes an object with the waves of intensity of hot plasma, the sudden vast jump in temperature will often cause objects to shatter, explode, or seemingly disintegrate, and an observer might therefore wrongly think that the object had been struck by a concussive force. Should Havok direct his energy at the lowest level, he can project it towards a human being and his target will suffer a severe headache but will not burn up.

Havok's body is constantly in the process of absorbing cosmic radiation. When each of his body's power-storage cell enclaves reaches its capacity, excess cosmic energy is thereafter absorbed and immediately re-emitted in negligible quantities. Upon the total expenditure of all his available energy, it takes Havok's body about 16 hours to recharge to its peak level. The act of concentration involved in releasing his energy in anything other than an omnidirectional wave is physically exhausting for Havok if he continues it over an extended period of time.


Havok does not have any concussive force behind his blasts. How could he hurt Torch
Hmm, I hadn't heard that take on Havok's powers before. Still, I'm quite sure I've seen him actually send someone flying backwards with a shot of his plasma blasts. How the hell is that not impact?

And anyway, plasma is basically ionized gas. How the hell can Marvel say that a jet of gas has no impact when it hits something?

I don't dispute that Marvel said it, which means I guess we're stuck with it . . . I just think they should have thought a bit harder about this one. :down

[Vanguard07]

I'm gonna go with Malice on this one. I think Psychoman would be too resistant to Telepathy although I havent ever really seen Telepathy attempted on him.
With the resistance to telepathic attacks (that i'm kinda just assuming exists) I think Malice wouldnt have much difficulty defeating psylocke.

[Silver Sable]

Malice

[rodhulk]

Malice

[1987olds442]

Malice

[Toby_Temple]

I'll vote for Malice. With Invisible Woman's powers, Malice will surely take Psylocke out.

[Silicon Surfer]

Shadow King.

[JeanGrey[GR]]

Shadow King

[XFanTim]

Can Invisible Woman's forcefields block telepathy? If not, I think Malice would be in trouble.No one has answered my question, but I'll go ahead and assume Malice can't just block telepathy with a forcefield.

In which case, I've got to go with Shadow King. I think Sue would beat Psylocke, but Shadow King has typically been a much more impressive telepath than Psylocke is. And even though he's in her body, I assume he still has his full telepathic power.

[Silicon Surfer]

Sue was able to block Jeans tk when they recovered her from the bay and she had amnesia. Sue has however been taken out by telepaths such as the Overmind so they have been erratic with regard to her shields and psionics

[Sparta*]

5 - 3 for Malice so far...

[Ahura Mazda]

Well if she can block telepaths which seems unlikely to me based on her power set then I give it to Malice

[DJWolfmanjack]

The thing is Malice could block Psylocke's airways with a force field thus making her lose consciousness. Malice

I know this isn't relevent but want would happen if Pyro (who controls flames) fought the Human Torch

[Midnight Ice]

Shadow King! :xmen:

[Red X]

Malice

[Bastila]

Shadow King

[3dman27]

i'm afraid i'm confused,who's malice up against shadow king or psylocke?

[comicbookmaster]

malice

[theoneandonly]

shadow king

[TheFalcon]

Shadow King

[Hellstormer]

Shadow King

[XFanTim]

i'm afraid i'm confused,who's malice up against shadow king or psylocke?
Shadow King's mind in Psylocke's body.

[Kmack]

Shadow King

[Sparta*]

i'm afraid i'm confused,who's malice up against shadow king or psylocke?

***Alright, this match-up is the Invisible Woman possessed by MALICE vs Psylocke possessed by SHADOW KING :up: Happy Voting!***

Just thought i'd post that again so everyone is on the same page

9 - 9 tie so far!!

[SSJ4_Mikael]

don't be silly... s-king with ease

[Sparta*]

Well if she can block telepaths which seems unlikely to me based on her power set then I give it to Malice

Well Malice is a psychic being herself...so while she is possessing Sue Storm, psychic attacks probably won't be overly effective on her.

[XFanTim]

But "psychic being" isn't the same as top-level telepath, which is what the Shadow King is. He's a rival for Xavier, so I'm not sure how much resistance Malice would have.

[Sparta*]

Psychic attacks would still effect Malice, but I think she would be able to resist or at least put up a fight against a lot of it. And even if Shadow King is more powerful of a psychic, which he is, he is still in Psylockes vulnerable body. An Invisible ram to the face would knock Psylocke out mighty fast...

[SSJ4_Mikael]

my vote still goes to the king
hard to imagion her lose to malice.
10-9

[LongDong]

Malice

[Genesis 1.0]

Shadow King, he's been more impressive to me as a character.

Oh and SSJ4, Sparta doesn't like people trying to take over the count.

[Sparta*]

Shadow King, he's been more impressive to me as a character.

Oh and SSJ4, Sparta doesn't like people trying to take over the count.

Aren't I just a ruthless dictator around here? lol :D

11 - 10 for Shadow King so far...

[Vanguard07]

It must be the big intimidating Cannon Cable's wielding in your avvy. I'm assuming it rules with an iron fist.

[Toby_Temple]

I can't believe it. No new posts in this thread today? NO WAY! (o_0)

[Brainiac 8]

Shadow King

[Sparta*]

12 - 10 is the final tally for Shadow King!

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg




V E R T I G O
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Vertigo.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


R I P T I D E
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Riptide.jpg

[LongDong]

Since I feel lazy and do not want to look up Vertigo and see what her powers are, I am voting Riptide.

[Sparta*]

Since I feel lazy and do not want to look up Vertigo and see what her powers are, I am voting Riptide.

Here ya go...

VERTIGO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_%28Marvel_Comics%29)
VERTIGO 2 (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/v/vertigoii.htm)

RIPTIDE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riptide_%28comics%29)

[DraconicLord]

Vertigo

[foxx5]

veritgo

[kytrigger]

Vertigo. Riptide would start spinning and then she would disorient him and he would either:
A) completely miss with his knives or whatever or
b) completely miss and then spin into a wall or something else comedic but pretty much knocking himself out

[Sparta*]

Riptide shoots a shower of blades in every direction though...

[XFanTim]

Hmm, this could end with them both taking each other out . . . but I'm betting that with Vertigo messing with him Riptide never gets up to speed to shoot his blades.

Vertigo

[psycho]

Vertigo

[Red X]

veritgo

[Brainiac 8]

Vertigo, he wouldn't be able to get going with the spinning and knives. The fight would be over before it began. :up:

[JeanGrey[GR]]

vertigo

[1987olds442]

Riptide

You would almost have to think Riptide would be more resistant to Vertigo's powers since he is use to "spinning around and around" really fast.

[bkhedr]

Vertigo

[LongDong]

Seems like Riptide would get going before he got dizzy and would be throwing stars and knives. Even dizzy you can maintain balance for a period of time. I think he would hit her with several weapons forcing her to lose her concentration as she is bleeding out and in severe pain, allowing him to recover and finish her off.
Riptide wins

[TheFalcon]

Vertigo

[Hellstormer]

Vertigo

[Silver Sable]

Vertigo

[Sparta*]

12 - 3 is the current tally in favor of Vertigo...

[LongDong]

Also another thing t consider is her rather lame power would not have a drastic affect on someone instantly. It would take time. She would have her throat cut before he was passing out.

[theoneandonly]

vertigo

[Genesis 1.0]

I'm going for Riptide, for a guy that spends most of his life twisting at extreme speeds, I'm quite certain that her powers will be alot less effective. And should she succeed, he'll skewer her before it's said and done.

Riptide

[Toby_Temple]

Riptide. LongDong already explained it. The effects of Vertigo's power is not instant. So Riptide takes this.

[Vanguard07]

Yeah. Riptide. Vertigo's powers wouldnt work fast enough to save her from a blade to the throat.

[citizenpain]

i'm gonna go with RIPTIDE yo.

[Sparta*]

I'll go for Riptide as well bringing the final tally to 13 - 8 for Vertigo!

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


C Y C L O P S
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Cyclops2.jpg




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp



WOLVERINE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Wolverine.jpg

[Sparta*]

I just got back from X-men: The Last Stand and i'm in an X-men mood so I decided to post this match-up. There has been speculation back and forth as to who would win this match-up, and it's time we decided once and for all.

Pending for your thoughts........

[Red X]

Any good Sparta?

[Midnight Ice]

Yes, the movie ROCKED! Wolverine for the match. :xmen:

[Sparta*]

Any good Sparta?

It rocked in certain aspects like action, but was severly lacking in character development. I almost vomitted when Professor X gave up on Cyclops and said he wanted Storm to lead the school. Kiss my ass for that Ratner.

[Ahura Mazda]

Cyclops, one because I think Cyclops could keep knocking Wolverine out and put distance between himself and those claws. Cyclops is a master tactician.

Second, becasue the movie increased my dislike for Logan; not only was he put in a primary position......he did not hold it very well.

[ssj wolverine]

Cyclops would get his ass handed to him by Logan.

[iambilly81]

logan would win, hands down. even if cyclops got a chance to blast him good. wolverine would still be able to come at him in a rage while his healing factor did its magic. and if its a close up fight, wolverine is better in close combat.

wolverine gets my vote

[LongDong]

Cyclops, wolverine could not get close enough to do damage.

Sparta*, the last X-Men movie lacked any sort of development too, and it was awful. Hoping this one is better.

[Hellstormer]

Probaly Wolverine mostly because of the healing factor.

[PaleRider]

If this was a real fight and cyclops didn't want wolverine getting close to him he wouldn't, so yeah Cyclops.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hmm, I agree with PaleRider, if Cyclops really wanted to hurt Wolverine he could.

Cycs

[Sparta*]

Just too clarify, Wolverine and Cyke want eachother dead in this match-up :up: They won't be holding back.

[Silver Sable]

Scott

[Lobo]

Cyclops

[foxx5]

Wolverine:
adamantium bones and claws
Healing Factor
super senses
master of tactics and many forms of combat

Cyclops:
optic blast

If Wolverine isn't holding back, then it would be a clear victory for Wolverine!

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Wolverine:
adamantium bones and claws
Healing Factor
super senses
master of tactics and many forms of combat

Cyclops:
optic blast

If Wolverine isn't holding back, then it would be a clear victory for Wolverine!

Everyone keeps saying that. Wolverine wins hands down, healing factor, adamantium laced skeleton, enhanced senses (nothing super). If he doesn't hold back he wins hands down.

First of all what about Cyclops not holding back? It is said that his beams might actually be able to grind adamantium down if placed against a surface that will keep it still. Yes Logan is not going to hold still for him to be grinded to death. I know this. But the very fact that Cyclops' eye beams may be powerful enough to do that should say something for their strength if he doesn't hold back.

Secondly, Wolverine's joints are not fused together by the adamantium. There for Cyclops could very easily dismember him at his joints, such as in AOA. Plus Cyclops could easily keep Wolverine at bay, breaking him down faster than his healing factor could heal him.

[1987olds442]

Wolverine

[Colossal Spoons]

Just too clarify, Wolverine and Cyke want eachother dead in this match-up :up: They won't be holding back.

That needs to be said more often. Maybe even in the same post as the match-up(if it applies) :up:

[LongDong]

It cracks me up that Wolverine is actually getting votes in this matchup. Yeah he could gut Cyclops were he within arms reach, but the nature of Cyclops power would keep Wolverine far from being within arms reach. Get a clue people!!!!

[Sparta*]

That needs to be said more often. Maybe even in the same post as the match-up(if it applies) :up:

It doesn't usually apply, but for this match-up I thought it would be a good idea, because this fight could never truly be decided unless they were fighting to the death.

That being said, I really think Wolverine is great, and he is a fellow Albertain like me :up: but if Cyclops was out to kill him, I think all that would be left of Wolverine would be a smoldering adamantium skeleton. Cyclops would also probably be an amputee, but he would still win lol.

[Sparta*]

7 - 6 for Cyclops so far...

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

It cracks me up that Wolverine is actually getting votes in this matchup. Yeah he could gut Cyclops were he within arms reach, but the nature of Cyclops power would keep Wolverine far from being within arms reach. Get a clue people!!!!

For once you and I agree LD.

[rodhulk]

Cyclops.

[torkibe]

It rocked in certain aspects like action, but was severly lacking in character development. I almost vomitted when Professor X gave up on Cyclops and said he wanted Storm to lead the school. Kiss my ass for that Ratner.

:agreed: The action was awesome, but if your a comic book fan (which I assume we all are or we wouldn't be here) the storyline was SO off the mark that it really let me down.

Anyway, IF Cyc managed to keep Wolvie at bay with his optics he'd take it, but I think unless they are fighting in a wide open field with no cover whatsoever, Wolvie will get close enough to tear Cyc apart. I give it to Wolverine.

[Hellstormer]

It cracks me up that Wolverine is actually getting votes in this matchup. Yeah he could gut Cyclops were he within arms reach, but the nature of Cyclops power would keep Wolverine far from being within arms reach. Get a clue people!!!!
He goes into a berserker rage and can be hit with all Cyke has and still coe at him unless somehow Cyke manages to kill him.

[Warhammer]

Even though Cyclops is my favorite X-Man, I think Wolverine would win.
He's got the adamantium and the healing factor.

Cyclops could do an optic sweep, but I agree with Hellstormer with the beserker rage. Wolverine will take the hits and slash Cyclops for the win.
Even though, Cyclops could go all loose with his optic rage and do some powerful damage.

Tough battle. :(

I will give it to Wolverine, just because.....

[Darth Hyperion]

Now I hate me some Cyclops, and although he's not my favorite Wolverine is one hell of a figther and tenacious and hell. That said you all know that when I say Cyclops would win it is not because I'm some Cyke fanboy. The reason Cyke would win is because although Wolverine is a great tactician so is Cyke. Hell Cyke might be a better tactician than Wolverine, and despite all of his advantages Wolverine would not be able to overcome the range advantage of a tactican like Cyke. Also Cyke has the element of surprise on his side. It's still unknown how powerful his optic blast is. He knows what Wolverine is capable of and don't think that Cyke hasn't thought about taking Wolverine out of the game more than once. It comes down to the fact that i believe that Cyke can hit Logan with a blast powrerful enough to knock him out so he has a chance to go for the kill. I'm not saying it's gonna be easy for Cyke, cause it sure as hell won't, but he can get the job done.

Winner Cyclops

[iambilly81]

there is no way cyclops would win, itw oudl be along fight but wolverine would out last him. sooner or later one will get tired. and when wolverine is 100% rage.....no way cyclops can win

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

You guys make it sound like Wolverine has the super accelerated, cumulative healing factor of the Hulk's. The more damage Logan takes the longer it takes his healing factor for him to recover from sustained injuries. Cycys knows this, he will just keep pummling him until his healing factor gasses out and he's down for the count.

I highly doubt Wolverine could walk through cycs eyeblast if Scott really didn't want him to do so.

[Silicon Surfer]

Even as a teenager Cykes optic blasts were stated to be capable to ripping through steel and flattening tanks. He has outclassed Iron Mans repulsor rays and has gotten more powerful since then. If Cyke really opened up on him Logan would be killed instantly, his flesh ripped from his bones and torn into shreds and then into smaller shreds. What would be left of him if you could catch it would be about what you would get if you put him through a giant blender.

[Darth Hyperion]

Do people really have that much faith in Wolverine? I feel that saying all that Logan has to do is go beserak and Cyke is done is a cop out. If you really thing about it that's the worse thing that can happen to Wolverine. In a to the death battle with someone like Cyke Logan has to keep his wits to work around his range advantage. If he just charges in a blind rage do the people that voted for Logan based on his beserk rage really believe that his healing factor would keep him going long enough to reach Cyclops if it's a fight to the death?

[Vanguard07]

Berserker rage or not Wolverine cannot move faster than a person can see. If Cyclops can see you he can blast you.
So if they're starting a field away or opposite corners of a boxing ring or whatever Cyclops wins. Wolverine would never be able to get close and he'd never be able to take that kind of punishment.
You cant heal from having all the flesh flayed from your bones, all your organs liquified and your brain smashed to mush against the insides of your skull. And thats exactly what would happen to logan.

Think about it. Cyclops can level a mountain just by looking at it. He's shattered glaciers, flattened tanks etc just by looking at them.
Wolverine wouldnt stand a chance unless he started the match within arms reach with his claws already unsheathed. If they were out to kill each other Wolverine stands no chance at all. Cyclops wouldnt sweat one drop or lose a single drop of blood. The fight would be over seconds after it began and Wolverine would be a corpse.

[Kmack]

Cyclops, but it wouldn't be easy.

[theoneandonly]

logan

[Sparta*]

13 - 9 for Cyclops so far...

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Lol, in X-men III Wolverine obliterate Jean who kill's Cyclops with ease. - can't hightlight it, sorry
Wolverine >> Dark Phoenix >> Cyclops

[Genesis 1.0]

Wolverine as I am Billy stated with this scenario.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Lol, in X-men III Wolverine obliterate Jean who kill's Cyclops with ease.
Wolverine >> Dark Phoenix >> Cyclops

Have you ever heard of spoilers you nitwit, not everyone has seen X3 yet! :mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Lobo]

Lol, in X-men III Wolverine obliterate Jean who kill's Cyclops with ease.
Wolverine >> Dark Phoenix >> Cyclops


1. Use spoilers like i did above 2. And if you ever read The Dark Phoenix saga you'd know how wrong that is

[Warhammer]

Lol, in X-men III Wolverine obliterate Jean who kill's Cyclops with ease.
Wolverine >> Dark Phoenix >> Cyclops

Damn Idiot.

[Hellstormer]

Lol, in X-men III Wolverine obliterate Jean who kill's Cyclops with ease.
Wolverine >> Dark Phoenix >> Cyclops
Holy crap you noob thanks alot for spoiling the film!:mad: :down

[LongDong]

there is no way cyclops would win, itw oudl be along fight but wolverine would out last him. sooner or later one will get tired. and when wolverine is 100% rage.....no way cyclops can win

No way this happens. Cyclops blast are concussive in nature. Wolverine is not even close to being strong enough to stand up to them. He would get knocked back everyt ime they got unleashed on him. His flesh would get taken off, his joints would get blasted apart, hell even his skeleton might get pulverized and smashed in thus killing him. Wolverine has no chance, berserker rage or not.

[Sparta*]

1. Use spoilers like i did above 2. And if you ever read The Dark Phoenix saga you'd know how wrong that is

Amen.

13 - 11 is the final tally for Cyclops! Finally, he gets some respect.

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


BLACK PANTHER
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/BlackPanther.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


BULLSEYE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Bullseye2.jpg

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Amen.

13 - 11 is the final tally for Cyclops! Finally, he gets some respect.

Bout Damn time, he would PWEN Logan :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Black Panther, no doubt. Bullseye may give him some trouble, but I wouldn't imagine it being very much.

[Red X]

Bullseye

[Bastila]

Black Panther

[Hellstormer]

Black Panther

[This I.........]

Ellen Page looked good in that uniform move over anna

anyways im voting for Bullseye:daredevil

[The BatDude]

yeah Bullseye would win if he was sneaky enough like in Punisher vs Bullseye

[LongDong]

Bulllseye, odds are he has a gun and he never misses. Panther goes down.

[Lobo]

I vote Bullseye

[djangel911]

I have never been able to find a clear winner in the matchup of Thanos vs Apocalypse, i am more of a Thanos fan and i have a friend who is more of an Apocalypse fan.. it would be nice to finally have this issue resolved...

Thanos
"Powers: Thanos possessed incalculable superhuman power. By far the most powerful of the Titanian Eternals, Thanos was a mutant whose massive, heavy-bided body was born with the capacity to synthesize cosmic energy for certain personal uses. (This is a trait that Thanos shared with his father Alars and all Earthborn Eternals but not with Titan-born Eternals. Through still unknown bionic amplification, Thanos increased his physical strength and resilience to levels surpassing even the strongest of the Earth Eternals. Through meditation and certain mystical techniques, Thanos augmented his power in still other ways, enabling him to tap, transform, and direct vast quantities of cosmic energy for destructive force. His skin is nearly invulnerable, particularly against heat, cold, electricity, radiation, toxins, aging, and disease, and he can survive indefinitely without food or water even before his "curse" from Death left him immortal, unable to die. His mind is also invulnerable to most forms of psychic attack, and can project a psionic blast of energy as well as blasts of plasma/cosmic energy from his eyes and hands. He usually employs a hovering chair with additional offensive weapons and the ability to teleport fantastic distances. Deadliest of all Thanos's attributes, perhaps, was his mind, whose superhuman level of intellect was totally dedicated to the annihilation of life." - http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos
Note: had a draw with viking god Odin and Thor without extra powers (like infinity guantlet, ect..) - "Thanos succeeded where the Surfer, the Infinity Watch, Doctor Strange (http://www.superherohype.com/universe/Doctor_Strange), Beta Ray Bill (http://www.superherohype.com/universe/Beta_Ray_Bill), and other Asgardian (http://www.superherohype.com/universe3zx/index.php?title=Asgardians&action=edit) gods could not." - http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos

Apocalypse
"Powers Apocalypse possesses superhuman strength, which he can augment by psionically drawing on outside energy sources. His bio-armor, which is of Celestial origin, allows him to alter the atomic structure of his body and change his shape at will, as well as to increase his size by taking on additional mass from an extra-dimensional source. Through his shape-shifting ability, Apocalypse can give himself virtually any physical power. Apocalypse can also levitate by means of telekinesis.
Apocalypse's mutant nature and his access to advanced technology have granted him an extraordinarily long life span that has lasted for thousands of years. He can survive for weeks without food or water and can rapidly recover from near-fatal injuries. Due to his vast energies burning out his physical form, he transfers his consciousness and powers into a succession of host bodies." - http://www.marvel.com/universe/Apocalypse

Note: defeated the X-Men and formed the Horsemen of Apocalypse..

[Silver Sable]

Bullseye

[Meridx]

bullseye

[Vanguard07]

Black panther. He's way sneakier and he's got all the fancy toys. Plus he's more than a match for Bullseye in close quarters.

[foxx5]

black panther

[1987olds442]

Black Panther

[Venom.Symbiote]

I'd have to go with the Black Panther. Granted Bullseye is good, very good in fact but I think T'Challa is just a little bit better. I even remember an issue of Spider-Man, not sure of the series or number, where him and Spidey went up against and invisible foe. They shut the lights out (so they were on an even playing field) and between Spidey's Spider Sense and the Panther's animal senses they were able to beat the tar out of the guy. So even in the dark Panther would win. :venom:

[wiegeabo]

Black Panther.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Have you ever heard of spoilers you nitwit, not everyone has seen X3 yet! :mad::mad::mad::mad:
1) Can't find it.
2) If you don't have enough info. to understand this fight, you shouldent vote you just ruin it.
3) How come you guy's haven't seen X3, it should be like on video and dvd in US, cause it just came to the cinema in Sweden (viewed premier).
4) B-eye win's.

[Harlekin]

1) Can't find it.
2) If you don't have enough info. to understand this fight, you shouldent vote you just ruin it.
3) How come you guy's haven't seen X3, it should be like on video and dvd in US, cause it just came to the cinema in Sweden (viewed premier).
4) B-eye win's.
No, Mikael, it's called common decency to not spoil something for somebody else (within a decent time frame). Secondly, are you an idiot? The release of X3 is the same internationally. There's no delay in movies coming to cinemas. I haven't seen it, nor have a few others, simply because it's only been out for three days. Not to mention we don't all live in the US.

Also, you're a ****ing bastard for ruining that. Secondly, you're the one who has little info on the comics here, so maybe you shouldn't vote.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

well at least i knew that result, and i had my explanation...

[Lobo]

SS4Mikael to write spoliers do it like ths write the spoiler here[/ spoiler] just dont leave a space between the / and spoiler.

Even tho that happpened in the movie it would NEVER happen in the comics [spoiler]Dark Phoenix could devour suns in the comics

[SSJ4_Mikael]

I know this isnt the right place, but how strong is Jean as Dark Phoenix?
-In the comics.
I heard that the phoenix force are second to the Living Tribunal.
How would your list of most powerful character be?
1) T.O.A.A. / Thanos w/ HotU
2) Living Tribunal
3) Phoenix force
4) Adam Warlock w/ IG / Thanos w/ IG
5) Galactus
6) Silver Surfer
correct?

[Harlekin]

well at least i knew that result, and i had my explanation...
A) Movie info doesn't count anyway.
B) You know next to nothing about the comics.
As a result: Your explanation sucked and now ruined a part of X3 for a lot of people, including me.

[rodhulk]

I know this isnt the right place, but how strong is Jean as Dark Phoenix?
-In the comics.
I heard that the phoenix force are second to the Living Tribunal.
How would your list of most powerful character be?
1) T.O.A.A. / Thanos w/ HotU
2) Living Tribunal
3) Phoenix force
4) Adam Warlock w/ IG / Thanos w/ IG
5) Galactus
6) Silver Surfer
correct?1) T.O.A.A.
2) Living Tribunal
3) Eternity
4) Death

.... and then you have the Celestials, Galactus, and others I would put above the Phoenix Force.

And I'm listing people based on their own powers, no gems or anything like that.

[rodhulk]

As for the current match....

Bullseye.

[theoneandonly]

bulleye

[SSJ4_Mikael]

1) T.O.A.A.
2) Living Tribunal
3) Eternity
4) Death

.... and then you have the Celestials, Galactus, and others I would put above the Phoenix Force.

And I'm listing people based on their own powers, no gems or anything like that.
T.O.A.A. is a being who have no physical form, not to be messed up with the celestials' leader who also bears the same name.

Besides Thanos deserved that power more than anyone else.
please make a top-10 list and mail it to me, but now don't make exeption, cause of items.:(

[Genesis 1.0]

Black Panther for the simple reason that whatever Bullseye throws, the impact will be absorbed by Panther's vibranium suit. Duh.

BP

[Hellstormer]

Black Panther for the simple reason that whatever Bullseye throws, the impact will be absorbed by Panther's vibranium suit. Duh.

BP
That's what I was thinking.

[Genesis 1.0]

Unfortunately no one else seems to be doing that. Thinking I mean.

[LongDong]

Black Panther for the simple reason that whatever Bullseye throws, the impact will be absorbed by Panther's vibranium suit. Duh.

BP

So by your "thinking" his is going to remove the bullets from his pistol and throw them at BP? Not likely

[Genesis 1.0]

Uh, I think you overshot Hell's reply and my agreement. Vibranium ABSORBS impact, including that type of kenetic energy. Don't worry, A then B.

[Harlekin]

Agreed. Black Panther. There's not actually anything that Bullseye can throw at him that will be effective against the vibranium.

[spartin2008]

...since Vibranium is only venerable to itself, and Bullseye dont have any(that i know of???) Black Panther would take him.

[Toby_Temple]

Black Panther. Genesis 1.0 said everything. Bulleyes must come up with a plan to make Black Panther remove his vibranium suit which is nigh impossible in this match.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

No, Mikael, it's called common decency to not spoil something for somebody else (within a decent time frame). Secondly, are you an idiot? The release of X3 is the same internationally. There's no delay in movies coming to cinemas. I haven't seen it, nor have a few others, simply because it's only been out for three days. Not to mention we don't all live in the US.

Also, you're a ****ing bastard for ruining that. Secondly, you're the one who has little info on the comics here, so maybe you shouldn't vote.

Thank you for explaining that Harl

[Toby_Temple]

(T_T) I hate spoilers! (T_T)

[Anubis]

Black Panther takes this

[Ahura Mazda]

Black Panther

[TheFalcon]

Bullseye

[kytrigger]

Black Panther

[Sparta*]

Hey guys, I just re-installed my comp to factory settings so It might be a day or two before I get the internet back at my house. I'm at work right now so i'll post a quick match-up from here :up:

I vote for T'Challa as well bringing the final tally to 16 - 11 in his favor!

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


GORGON
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Gorgon.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


KARNAK
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Karnak.jpg

[theoneandonly]

gorgon

[Sparta*]

I just read the Marvel Knights Inhumans trade paperback, and after reading that and seeing what Karnak can do, i'm giving it to him.

[Hellstormer]

Karnak with a lot of effort.

[1987olds442]

Karnak

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Karnak

[LongDong]

Were it the Johnny Carson version of Karnak I would say hands down, he wins

[3dman27]

karnak rthe shatterer

[Sparta*]

Were it the Johnny Carson version of Karnak I would say hands down, he wins

.....wha?

[wiegeabo]

Johnny Carson's Karnak. When he wore the big swami hat and predicted the answers to questions. Some of his funniest stuff.

[wiegeabo]

Oh, and I vote for Karnak.

[LongDong]

.....wha?

Man Sparta* where you been??? ;)

[Hellstormer]

.....wha?
http://www.randi.org/images/092702-CarsonTurban.jpg
Duh, lol.

[Toby_Temple]

I'll vote for Gorgon. He's strong and tough and he has the range advantage.

[wiegeabo]

http://www.randi.org/images/092702-CarsonTurban.jpg
Duh, lol.


*bows down to the King of all late night*

[XFanTim]

I say Karnak.

[Silver Sable]

Karnak

[This I.........]

i thought Conan was the all time king of late night

anyways Gorgon wins

[wiegeabo]

Conan doesn't hold a candle to Carson. Neither does Letterman. And I like them both.

But Carson was a late night god.

[LongDong]

Conan doesn't hold a candle to Carson. Neither does Letterman. And I like them both.

But Carson was a late night god.

Carson was great. I cannot stand Letterman though.

[Silicon Surfer]

Gorgon easily. He is far more powerful.

[Ahura Mazda]

Gorgon

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Conan doesn't hold a candle to Carson. Neither does Letterman. And I like them both.

But Carson was a late night god.

Word :up:

[Red X]

Karnak

[Paloogin]

So at the moment we have 5 for Karnak, a round 10 for Gorgon, and what, 4 for Johnny Carson. Keep 'em coming for JC I say!

[LongDong]

heh heh, hope sparta is not mad I added a third party into this fight. Go JC

[XFanTim]

Gorgon easily. He is far more powerful.
But Karnak can sense whatever his weaknesses are.

I think this may be a case where skill trumps raw power.

[Toby_Temple]

But Karnak can sense whatever his weaknesses are.

I think this may be a case where skill trumps raw power.
Gorgon can also use seismic wave to attack from a far. Karnak needs to deal with that plus Gorgon's strength. Gorgon has all the advantage in this battle.

[Vanguard07]

Man.... I'd love to give this one to Karnak but realistically I dont think I can.
Gorgon's too much stronger, tougher, longer ranged etc.

Karnak wouldnt be able to get close enough to strike at a weakpoint.

[PaleRider]

This is a tough one, I think I have to go with Karnak.

[Genesis 1.0]

This one comes down to range really, and Mack just ain't gonna be able to close the distance in any scenario.

Gorgon