Marvel Comics Character Tournament!!!

[Sparta*]

14 - 7 for Magma so far.....

[Toby_Temple]

I'm voting for Magma. She has geokinesis, pyrokinesis, magma manipulation and she can turn herself into magma. She and Sunspot would probably do range attacks. Sunspot can only attack with heat and concussive blasts, but Magma can do the same thing. But with her wide array of powers, she clearly has the advantage. It would take alot from Sunspot to take Magma out. Magma only needs one clear shot with a magma blast. Why? Coz Sunspot is not invulnerable. Magma in magma form can take any amount of heat and alot of concussive attacks.

[djangel911]

sunspot

"Significantly, Sunspot maintained his original powerset for roughly the first ten years of his existence, remaining a super-strong but vulnerable individual throughout the entire New Mutants series. During the mid-1990s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s) in X-Force his powers began to change, under writer Fabian Nicieza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Nicieza). Nicieza had the supervillain Gideon capture Roberto and subject him to experimentation where the limits of Roberto's power absorption were tested by feeding him immense amounts of solar power. Roberto was rescued by X-Force, but the overload had permanently altered his powers in such a way that he was now able to release concussive blasts of solar energy, with a considerable heat projection component." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunspot_%28comics%29

[Toby_Temple]

sunspot

"Significantly, Sunspot maintained his original powerset for roughly the first ten years of his existence, remaining a super-strong but vulnerable individual throughout the entire New Mutants series. During the mid-1990s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s) in X-Force his powers began to change, under writer Fabian Nicieza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Nicieza). Nicieza had the supervillain Gideon capture Roberto and subject him to experimentation where the limits of Roberto's power absorption were tested by feeding him immense amounts of solar power. Roberto was rescued by X-Force, but the overload had permanently altered his powers in such a way that he was now able to release concussive blasts of solar energy, with a considerable heat projection component." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunspot_%28comics%29
Not good enough.:down:

Heat is useless against Magma and in magma form, she can take alot of concussive strikes. She is practically a molten rock. And Magma can also strike with extremely hot concussive blast, her magma blast. :p

[Artistsean]

Here is how i would make Sunspot, his mutant power allows him to absorb solar energy and transform it into super human strength. When powered up he is all black reflecting all light except from his eyes and mouth. also while powered up, from asborbing solar rays, he erraidates minor amounts of heat and is nearly invulerable. He is usually powered up for the whole fight, and longer sometimes, but if he over excerts himself like in a massive fight or disaster, he can quickly burn through his solar power.
No flying, or energy blasts.

[Sparta*]

15 - 8 is the final tally for Magma

Next match-up shortly...

[Sparta*]

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MEDUSA
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Medusa.jpg



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MYSTIQUE
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Mystique.jpg

[Red X]

Medusa

[spartin2008]

Mystique

[Lobo]

Medusa

[psycho]

Mystique

[1987olds442]

Medusa

[Bastila]

Mystique

[The Cleric]

medusa....plus, she is sexier.

[bkhedr]

Medusa

[LongDong]

Medusa

[KevanG]

Prehensile hair? WTF??? It's weird but I like it. Medusa gets my vote :D

[Hellstormer]

Medusa

[Artistsean]

It would be an interesting fight. I imagin Mystique is sent out to assassinate Medusa. Maybe she transforms into Gorgon or Blackbolt to try and get close, but medussa realizes. Mystique would seem like she had an upper hand being able to morph into other people and is trained in combat. but Medusa is a Queen is trained too. I think Medusa would win. Mystique would try using her morphing abilities but in the end it would come down to hand to hand combat which leaves Medusa with the advantage having her hair which is a weapon.

[Silver Sable]

Mystique

[3dman27]

Mystique
once again we agree

[Warhammer]

Mystique.

[Genesis 1.0]

You still didn't address the fact that his powers aren't concussive, just heat.

Yeah, I was assuming you were at some low level familiar with the character but it seems DJ already answered it for me.

As to the current match, Mystique is way hotter but Medusa's unique abilities have several avenues she could take to win this battle. Suffocation being the most likely, of if she doesn't want to kill, simply bind her so tightly she can't move and this one's over. Mystique's transformations, possibly into Blackbolt, won't do her much good since Medusa has an intricate knowledge of her husband, more so since he doesn't speak. They're connected on a whole new level, LOOKING like Blackbolt won't cut it.

Medusa

[K4tzm4n]

hmmm...Could we see a match where Scorpion fights an equivallent of his? Not sure who that would be...Also, a good venom melee battle?

[Exploding Boy]

Medusa

[Silicon Surfer]

Medusa,she's physically much stronger in addition to her hair

[Toby_Temple]

I'm voting for Medusa. She has the range advantage and both are skilled in fighting. But I think this would be difficult for Medusa.

[Vanguard07]

I'm going with Medusa. The hair, as silly as it is, can actually be quite formidable.

[JeanGrey[GR]]

Medusa

[Sparta*]

I'll vote for Medusa as well bringing the final tally to 16 - 6 in her favor!

[warren_sparta27]

Mystique

[Sparta*]

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MYSTERIO
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Mysterio2.jpg


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SCORPION
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Scorpion.jpg

[warren_sparta27]

scorpion

[Red X]

Mysterio

[theoneandonly]

mysterio

[Nathan]

Myterio

[psycho]

Scorpion

[1987olds442]

Scorpion

[JeanGrey[GR]]

Mysterio

[bulok]

Good matchup. Mysterio had always been a bit of a loser with no real abilities to speak of. However, he has recently gotten smarter and his FX has been alot more sophisticated. I think I would vote for him. Gargan's more of a brawler and would be outsmarted easily.

[K4tzm4n]

Scorpion

[spartin2008]

Yeh, i think Mysterio is smart enough to outsmart Scorpion...

[Bastila]

Mysterior

[Artistsean]

The battle starts when Mysterio decides to target Gorgon, Scorpion. I think the battle would be made up of Scorpion in the middle of a bunch of illusions, slashing his tail at anything. All the while Mysterio is taunted and demeaning Gorgon. Gorgon continues to slash at anything not knowing that outside the smoke and mirrors Mysterio is getting ready to finish him. He takes aim, and gets ready to fire. Just then Gorgon's tail comes shooting out of the smoke and hits Mysterio right in the stomache.

I don't know, I think Mysterio would win. He is smarter and has better weapons than Scorpion.
Isn't Scorpion now Venom?

[K4tzm4n]

...You just said scorpion would stab him in the stomach though? lol...I think if he knew he was going up against mysterio he would only be distracted AT FIRST by the illusions.

[3dman27]

to quote rhe gentleman in question
make way forTHE SCORPION

[Artistsean]

That was just an idea for the fight, not necissarily how it would happen, I think Mysterio like you aid would confuse him in the begginning. But Scorpion is not as dumb as Rhino right?
He is sort of smart right? So maybe he would still have a chance.

[Lady Stormcrow]

Mysterio

[LongDong]

Scorpion

[kytrigger]

This is a tough one. You have to remember that since there is no advanced warning of the fight, Mysterio can't set up his illusions. While he can create some illusions on the fly, he is generally more effective when planning out elaborate illusions to confuse his enemy. Not being able to do this, I think tips the scale into Scorpion's favor.

Scorpion

[Hellstormer]

Mysterio

[U.S War Machine]

Scorpion

[Lobo]

Mysterio

[Silver Sable]

Quentin

[Sparta*]

I vote for Scorpion bringing the current tally to 12 - 9 for Mysterio

[Vanguard07]

I've always been under the impression that he can do his illusions on the fly but the traps arent as easy for him.

So Scorpion would never find him through the smoke and mirrors and wouldnt know what's real. He could walk right off a cliff and not know it. Also Mysterio has in past used tricks that mess with your inner ear and such. Leave your sense of direction so messed up you cant tell up from down.

Honestly I dont see Scorpion posing any real danger to Mysterio but it might be tricky for Mysterio to find something to actually take Scorpion down with while he's stumbling around blindly... It depends on where they're fighting I guess.

But I'm giving it to Mysterio.

[KevanG]

With prep time Mysterio rules, if they were just teleported into an alley somewhere and proceeded to fight then Mysterio could beat him but it's more Scorpion that would win. But I vote Mysterio!!!

[Venom.Symbiote]

I have to go with Scorpion in this one. Even though Mysterio is the smarter of the two, I don't think he'd be able to really do anything to hurt Scorpion bad enough to take a victory, not without the proper preparations anyway. :venom:

[Toby_Temple]

I'm voting for Scorpion. He's just too tough for Mysterio and his tricks.

[SuperFerret]

Mysterio.

[Exploding Boy]

Mysterio

[LongDong]

No prep time equals dead against anyone Mysterio. Scorp wins.

[Silicon Surfer]

It doesn't matter how good his illusions are when Scorpy begins to get frustrated and simply smashes everthing indiscriminately. Sooner or later Mysterio will either run out of illusions or get crushed by debris. Scorpion wins in the end because Mysterio cannot put him down and cannot take what he can dish out

[comicbookmaster]

mysterio

[Vanguard07]

It doesn't matter how good his illusions are when Scorpy begins to get frustrated and simply smashes everthing indiscriminately. Sooner or later Mysterio will either run out of illusions or get crushed by debris. Scorpion wins in the end because Mysterio cannot put him down and cannot take what he can dish out

I disagree. Mysterio has a huge number of possibilities to put Scorpion down depending on what's around. Climb up somewhere high and drop heavy stuff on him. Scorpion wouldnt see or hear it coming so he wouldnt be braced or know to dodge.
Drive a car into him at full speed. If he cant see or hear it coming and he gets hit full force while not braced or ready it'll do some serious damage.

[Kmack]

Mysterio

[Sparta*]

18 - 13 is the final tally for Mysterio

[Sparta*]

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ABSORBING MAN
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GIANT-MAN
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/GiantMan.jpg

[Silicon Surfer]

Absorbing Man, no question.

[Exploding Boy]

Absorbing Man

[Artistsean]

how big is Absorbing Man? I have seen him be as tall as 20 story buildings and see him be as tall as a very tall man.

[Sparta*]

just a regular height guy I believe...

I have a hard time believing Hank Pym would go down so easy...I need to ponder this match-up some more.

[Artistsean]

I think Hank Pym would be hard to take down so easily too. not only can he turn giant and super strong, but he also has his shrinking powers, and the Yellow Jacket stinger powers, and his incredible intellegence.
He is so smart he created artificial intellegence, and all his powers and Wasp's powers. Plus Absorbing Man is not smart at all. I remember seeing his trading card and his intellegence was at 2 or something.

I think Absorbing Man would be smashing and bashing the whole time, absorbing stuff and forcing Hank to be bobbing, ducking, weaving, but the whole time he would also be throwing some good punches in there too as Giant Man. Maybe even blasting IM with stingers too. Maybe even once in the whole fight he would shrink down to avoid an attack by AM. Eventually he would realise brute strength wouldn't be enough. I think the whole time Hank would even start boasting and goading Absorbing Man like when he was Yellow Jacket. AM, or Crusher Creel, would have him on the ropes and may even really injure Hank not once but several times in the fight, but I think Hank would device a plan to hold back Absorbing Man for a time, or stop him completely.
What would be cool is if Hank had no choice but to use his Pym Particals to defeat AM somehow, maybe getting Crusher to absorb the particals and force him to shrink to 4 inches tall.

[Silicon Surfer]

Creel is one of the most powerful beings hero or villan around. This is a guy who laughed at the Odin Power and then ate it for lunch.

[Sparta*]

when was that Silicon? The characters in this tourney are usually fighting at their most commonly known level

[Silicon Surfer]

Way back in the 70's or early 80's. His ability to transform into energy is his most powerful aspect. I have never seen the issues but Marvel has refered back to the events.

[Toby_Temple]

Absorbing Man. He's strong enough to break Pym's ankles even if he is 100 feet tall, thus knocking him down and then Creel can break his chin. Creel can also increase his size by touching a skyscraper. So Pym's giant form is not a problem to Creel.

[1987olds442]

Absorbing Man

[Bastila]

Absorbing Man

[torkibe]

Absorbing Man, though it would be a tough one.

[Vanguard07]

Absorbing man for sure. Creel's tough enough to be a whole Avengers type of villain. Pym alone couldnt handle him.

[XFanTim]

Absorbing Man. Stronger and more durable.

[JeanGrey[GR]]

Absorbing Man

[spartin2008]

Giant Man Hank Pym

[LongDong]

Pym wins this easy. Pick up absorbing man, throw him as high into the air as he can, watch him splat.

Many ways he could hurt him. Before absorbing man even got close he would have stuff tossed or dropped on him. He would be smacked away with a tree doubling as a louiseville slugger, he would be hurt in so many ways.

[Anubis]

Pym. he'd simply out smart him. Now, if Creel were smarter, like he was during Earth X, then he'd kill him. Much like he did in Earth X, by stabbing the bastard with the Washington Monument. (I know it's not in continuity, but it was still effin sweet)

[U.S War Machine]

Absorb

[Genesis 1.0]

Absorbing Man is just too durable, and his lack of a high IQ didn't hinder him too much when he went up against Thor. Could Giant Man go that long with Thor? I think not. For all Pym's size increasing, it won't take much for Absorbing Man to knock him out with a particualrly hard and common element, say granite or good old steel or iron.

Absorbing Man.

[Hellstormer]

Giant-man but it would be close.

[LongDong]

Absorbing Man is just too durable, and his lack of a high IQ didn't hinder him too much when he went up against Thor. Could Giant Man go that long with Thor? I think not. For all Pym's size increasing, it won't take much for Absorbing Man to knock him out with a particualrly hard and common element, say granite or good old steel or iron.

Absorbing Man.

Very true but could he get close enough to do that? That long reach of Giant mans would keep at at a safe distance

[Genesis 1.0]

I'm sure that the nerve centers will work quite normally if they get smashed with a load of steel, the natural reaction is to bend down, and then it's all over. Even if that wasn't the case, don't think that a thug like Creel is going to stand still, he's got exeperience in getting what he wants and he can of course hide. If Giant Man bends down, reaches down, or does any action to lower himself, he puts himself in danger but not likely he'll win without doing so.

[Silicon Surfer]

Pym particles have limits as to how large and strong they can make you. Creel can easily exceed that by mimicing the properties of concrete or other common substances.

[LongDong]

So he basically can change into say Titanium and his strength then also adjusts based on the strength of that substance? RIght? He then also is a sdurable, so dropping abuilding on him would not really do much to him right?

Hmmm, am I hearing correctly, maybe I ned to do a search on him and really understand his powers. a change in vote might be in order but I still think Giant man could pick him and toss him away, need to read up before I finally decide.

[LongDong]

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/a/absorbingman.htm

OK I change my vote to the Absorbing Man. Check out his pics, total Mongoloid with evidence of roid abuse by the lack of anything of note in his pants. Poor guy, how in the world does he keep Titania happy?

[PaleRider]

Absorbing Man

[Sparta*]

Way back in the 70's or early 80's. His ability to transform into energy is his most powerful aspect. I have never seen the issues but Marvel has refered back to the events.

Sweet. I'll vote for Creel as well :up:

15 - 4 for Absorbing Man thus far...

[Silver Sable]

Absorbing Man

[Silicon Surfer]

This makes me wonder what would happen in a match between Creel and Captain Atom. Imagine him mimicing that energy

[Sparta*]

Absorbing man wins !

[Sparta*]

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INVISIBLE GIRL
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SHADOWCAT
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Shadowcat.jpg

[warren_sparta27]

kitty

[Ahura Mazda]

Taking their powers to the max I would say Kitty as she could phase through any force fields preventing her own suffocation.

[Red X]

Invisible Girl

[Venom.Symbiote]

Taking their powers to the max I would say Kitty as she could phase through any force fields preventing her own suffocation.

You also have to take into account that Kitty has to solidify in order to do anything to Sue, once that happens one force field inside Kitty and its all over. Plus, if Sue stays invisible the whole time Kitty is at a serious disadvantage. I'm going with Sue in this one. Great picture of her too, by the way. :venom:

[Venom.Symbiote]

A comment on the previous battle: All the Absorbing Man would have to do is absorb electricity and fry Pym to his core. All that would be left would be one big crispy critter. :venom:

[bulok]

Now THAT's a Sue Storm I would hit.

[JeanGrey[GR]]

Kitty Pryde

[LongDong]

Invisible Woman

[Silver Sable]

Sue Storm

[Ahura Mazda]

You also have to take into account that Kitty has to solidify in order to do anything to Sue, once that happens one force field inside Kitty and its all over. Plus, if Sue stays invisible the whole time Kitty is at a serious disadvantage. I'm going with Sue in this one. Great picture of her too, by the way. :venom:


Yes but I was thinking she could be phased out and then phase in with her fist in Sue's brain...there would be no defense and no time

[XFanTim]

Hmm . . . if Kitty got close enough to Sue, she could potentially hurt her. I doubt she'd do something like phase her into a wall, since that would kill Sue, and Kitty usually wouldn't do that to someone unless she thinks they'd survive it. But still, Kitty could phase out of the ground next to Sue and then just sucker-punch her.

Except Sue can just stay invisible the whole fight, in which case there isn't any way Kitty will be able to find her to attack her.

Of course, Sue would have a hard time taking out Kitty too, assuming she stays phased (and assuming she can phase through the forcefields.) But still, Sue has some options. Kitty still needs to breathe win phased, so Sue could put a forcefield in her lungs that would force all the air out (even though it wouldn't actually touch Kitty's lungs themselves.) Or she could knock a building down on her with her forcefields, and Kitty might smother under the dust and debris (even though she's phased).

So I guess Sue wins.

[spartin2008]

Sue Storm

[Hellstormer]

Shadowcat

[U.S War Machine]

Invisible Woman

[Venom.Symbiote]

Of course, Sue would have a hard time taking out Kitty too, assuming she stays phased (and assuming she can phase through the forcefields.) But still, Sue has some options. Kitty still needs to breathe win phased, so Sue could put a forcefield in her lungs that would force all the air out (even though it wouldn't actually touch Kitty's lungs themselves.) Or she could knock a building down on her with her forcefields, and Kitty might smother under the dust and debris (even though she's phased).

So I guess Sue wins.

Another option Sue has is to just put a field around Kitty and keep it on her, eventually she'll run out of air. I know what you're thinking, and if she phases through the bottom into the ground, she still can't breathe. Besides, once Kitty goes underground what's to stop Sue from making a very large solid mass of force and covering the whole area? This way Kitty could still phase through it, but wouldn't be able to breathe until she got through the whole thing which could take a while and if she's coming up from the ground, she doesn't have a lungful of air anyway. I love Kitty but I don't think she could take Sue out unless she had the element of surprise on her side. :venom:

[Bastila]

Ahh i like both, this one is a hard one, but i don't know i think it would be a hard battle as Kitty could get though one of Sue's force feilds, hmmmm I don't know the X-men fan inside me says vote Kitty lol, but i think Sue is a great character as well. Ahhh i got with Sue on this one.

[torkibe]

Sue.

[3dman27]

Sue Storm
don't you mean sue RICHARDS?
BTW i agree susie'd win

[Kmack]

Awesome match-up:up: I think the fight could go either way, but I'm voting for Kitty because of her lack of votes:mad:

[Genesis 1.0]

VERY close match this time around. This one has alot of variables and could slide one way or the other, but I think that the fact that Kitty is rather impulsive at time, she'll materialize eventually should Sue remain invisible to try and lure her out. She can't stay phased beneath the ground or a wall longer than it takes for her to draw a breath so I think it's completely possible that Sue could nail her at rondom possible with invivible constructs.

Sue Storm

[Silicon Surfer]

Sue,between invisibility and using force fields to suffocate Kitty she has too much of an advantage.

[Nathan]

I can't decide so I'll throw a coin.

*throws coin*

And the vote goes to Kitty.

[Exploding Boy]

Kitty

[Vanguard07]

I'm going with kitty. the suffocation strategy would be difficult for sue to pull of since to force air out of her lungs her force fields would have to be solid. That being the case if Kitty passed through something solid (like the ground) the force field would have to punch through the ground to stay with her which i doubt Sue could do. Assuming she could even keep the forcefield in Kitty's lungs just by sight (which would probably be really difficult).

Also the argument that they wouldnt be willing to kill each other doesnt really hold because i've basically learned to assume that they're going all out at each other. that being the case Kitty wouldnt have to turn solid to hurt sue. She could just pass through her and leave a present behind. (like a brick in her skull for example).

I think this is a great match and it could go either way i just think that Kitty actually has more advantages so i'm voting for her.

[Silicon Surfer]

Sue doesn't have to generate her field inside Kitty she can form it around her and expand it to cause a sudden drastic reduction of air pressure. The effects of this unlike suffocation would be almost immediate.

[Vanguard07]

I was under the impression that when kitty is phased she phases the air she inhales as well. Which might make such a tactic (or any suffocation tactic) difficult.

[psycho]

Shadowcat

[Silicon Surfer]

She presumably phases the air that is actually in her lungs but that would do nothing to protect her from explosive decompression.

[Sparta*]

I'll throw in a vote for Sue Storm :ff:

[1987olds442]

Sue

[Toby_Temple]

I'm voting for Kitty. She can escape any of Sue's attempt to encase her in a force field with her phasing ability. Then she can attack from underneath her by phasing through her body and leave a rock in her heart.

[Iceman/Psylocke]

I'd love to say Kitty but I've got to go with Sue on basis of experience. Kitty has more long term potential though.

[Anubis]

If Kitty can phase through Sue's sheilds, then Kitty takes it easily. If she can't, then Sue. Thats what it really comes down to.

[imaperson2]

Kitty!

[LongDong]

I'd love to say Kitty but I've got to go with Sue on basis of experience. Kitty has more long term potential though.

Why can't your avatar be a gif file instead of a pic? Thems lookin NIIIICE heh heh

[newwaveboy87]

Kitty!

[LEX]

Kitty Pryde

[Midnight Ice]

Kitty:xmen:

Hey Sparta, I think I wrote you a pm a while back...

[Sparta*]

Sorry MI, I must have missed it. I'll check now :up:

16 - 15 is the final tally for the Invisible Girl! That was clooosssseee!

Next match-up shortly...

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


DORMAMMU
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


MEPHISTO
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Mephisto.jpg

[U.S War Machine]

No clue who those guys are but i'll go with Dormammu who ever he is.

[Hellstormer]

Depends is it just on Earth or in one of their realms?

[TwoMinutesHate]

Dormammu because his name is 10 times cooler and his head is on fire.

[Silicon Surfer]

Mephisto is just as powerful and smarter.

[1987olds442]

Mephisto

[Exploding Boy]

Mephisto

KITTY LOST! LAME :down

[Hellstormer]

Mephisto

[This I.........]

MEPHISTO
how bout a venom and symbiotes vs spider-man and clones fight

kate hoeworth looks fugly in superman should have been keira knightley o yeah!!!

[spartin2008]

Dormammu

[Vanguard07]

Dormammu. via headbutt.

[Sparta*]

5-4 for Mephisto so far...

[Midnight Ice]

Mephisto
:xmen:

[Slim31]

I'll take Mephisto because he's sleazier

[Garbage Man]

dormammu cuz mephesto is ugly

[Toby_Temple]

I think it would be a draw, but I'm leaning towards Mephisto. I vote for Mephisto then.

[Sparta*]

this battle will be taking place on Earth in case that influences anyones votes (You may change your vote if necessary)

[Silver Sable]

Mephisto

[torkibe]

Mephisto.

[JeanGrey[GR]]

mephisto

[LongDong]

Mephisto

[KevanG]

Dormammu!!! After the fight he can roast marshmallows on his head :D

[Sparta*]

I vote for Dormammu bringing the final tally to 12 - 7 for Mephisto...

[Sparta*]

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MR. FANTASTIC
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/MisterFantastic2.jpg


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SUB-MARINER
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Namor3.jpg

[Sparta*]

Please Note: THIS MATCH-UP IS TAKING PLACE AWAY FROM WATER

[Exploding Boy]

Hmmmm....If Mr. Fantastic can keep him out of water long enough Namor could get weak enough so that Reed can take him out


Mr. Fantastic

[Artistsean]

I missed the last one, Mephisto (Marvel's satan)

I think if it came down to it, and reed didn't pull any punches and used his powers to their full potential, then I think Reed would win big time.
What goo is super strength and bullet proof skin against a living rubberband. Reed could completely wrap namor up, completely smother him, and hold him until he is dead or passed out.
Plus he is super smart.

Mr. fantastic

[Toby_Temple]

Reed Richards takes this. Without water, Namor needs to take out Mr. Fantastic fast, but that won't happen. Reed is too smart for him and quite tough, so his physical strength will not give Namor the advantage, especially when it dimishes with each passing moment while he is not in water.

[LEX]

I'd say Mr Fantastic. He definitely has the advantage and the brains if the fight isn't taking place in the water.

[Sparta*]

It won't be taking place in the water, but Namor will have just come from water at the beginning of the fight. I think it takes a good while for his strength to decrease

[Red X]

Mr. Fantastic

[Silicon Surfer]

In the early days of the FF this fight happened several times with Namor always an easy winner. Reeds body cannot take the stress for more than a few moments. Namor used to defeat the entire FF at the same time.

[K4tzm4n]

hmmmmmmmmm. Fantastic.

[3dman27]

stretcho

[U.S War Machine]

Ahh Heck Namor definitly

[torkibe]

If Namor is not holding back (Which I think is the assumption with all these battles) he wins.

[LongDong]

Namor.

[Venom.Symbiote]

I don't see how Namor could win. Since he doesn't have any form of mental or energy manipulation abilities, he shouldn't really be able to hurt Reed at all. The only way I could see him doing it would be by stretching him beyond his limits and I don't think that will happen, because Reed's just too smart. :venom:

Mr. Fantastic

[Nathan]

If that's the case how did Namor ever manage to take on the whole Team if he can't even beat someone like Richards?

My vote goes to Namor.

[spartin2008]

Givin the arguments...i vote Namor as well

[XFanTim]

I'll give this to Namor. If Reed could wrap himself around him, he could win by smothering him. But Namor is fast enough to avoid Reed's attacks, and if he stretches Reed far enough, he can hurt him.

[XFanTim]

In the previous match, I would have gone with Dormammu (if it takes place on neutral ground). Dormammu has taken on Eternity before -- I don't think it was suggested he could win, but it was indicated that they might destroy the universe in the course of their fight.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I don't see how Namor could win. Since he doesn't have any form of mental or energy manipulation abilities, he shouldn't really be able to hurt Reed at all. The only way I could see him doing it would be by stretching him beyond his limits and I don't think that will happen, because Reed's just too smart. :venom:

Mr. Fantastic

Wrong, I am surprised no one has corrected you yet. Namor has been shown in comics to posses at least one type if not several forms of energy manipulation. He once shocked the hell out of the Hulk ( I think it was the Hulk) in a fight underwater. He said he was mimicking the electrical shock abilities of the Eel.

Namor wins

[LongDong]

True and Reed can be hurt. Someone of Namors strength hits him in the head it hurts him. Reed also would have to be pretty quick to get Namor wrapped up enough to where Reed could control him. A couple itmes around won't be enough to subdue Namor.

[Hellstormer]

Mr. Fantastic

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Fantastic, and if it was on solid ground I'd say very easy.

[torkibe]

I'll give this to Namor. If Reed could wrap himself around him, he could win by smothering him. But Namor is fast enough to avoid Reed's attacks, and if he stretches Reed far enough, he can hurt him.

I'm just wondering... Has it ever been shown or stated how strong Reed would be if he wraps someone up? Would he even be able to hurt someone as strong as Namor?

[Cap1970]

Namor.

[Silicon Surfer]

Reeds strength is normal human and so are his reflexes. Namor has superhuman reflexes and is durable enough to withstand machine gun and bazooka fire. Reed has no way to hurt Namor at all. Reeds is subject attack on small areas of his body. Namor and Blastaar have both used this tactic on him in physical attacks. When Blastaars force attacks failed to hurt Reeds elastic body he resorted to physical attack and knocked Reed out and he is half as strong as Namor.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I'm just wondering... Has it ever been shown or stated how strong Reed would be if he wraps someone up? Would he even be able to hurt someone as strong as Namor?

How strong you mean as in how much pressure or force he can withstand before feeing pain? Or how many psi he can put out when squeezing an object or opponet?

Well he can be stretched by beings that are very strong and he can be hurt if stretched too far. I think generally it is accepted that he can stretch from somewhere around 100 to 300 feet total at his maximum.

But someone of Namor's calibar should easily be able to stretch out reed and also not be contained by him. Namor has had very high showings and is generally considered right below the top heavy hitters like Thor, Hulk, Hercules, Silver Surfer etc. in terms of raw strength. And just barely below them, he could hold his own against any of those characters for a good amount of time.

[theoneandonly]

i say fantastic

[PaleRider]

Namor

[gambitfire]

Namor

[Genesis 1.0]

Namor and fairly easy since he's done it so many times before. Sure Reed can stretch and envelope him but he always caves to the increased damage, he can only withstand so much.

Namor

[Sparta*]

Namor takes the lead 12 - 11! It's still anyones match-up though...

[Anubis]

Namor

[Wilderbeast]

sub mariner

who the hizzle is NaMor? you idjits aren't even voting for the right match, it's sub marinar versis mister fantastik. stay on topic

[kytrigger]

Namor

[bcd90]

namor

[Colossal Spoons]

sub mariner

who the hizzle is NaMor? you idjits aren't even voting for the right match, it's sub marinar versis mister fantastik. stay on topic

You're joking for shizzle?

[1987olds442]

Namor The Sub-Mariner

[Vanguard07]

Namor easilly. Reed doesnt stand a chance.

[torkibe]

Or how many psi he can put out when squeezing an object or opponet?

That's what I meant... Has it ever been shown? Or stated?

[Sparta*]

18 - 11 for Namor so far...

[Silver Sable]

Namor

[KevanG]

Namor Mackenzie for the win just to tick off the idiot with crazy words :P

[XFanTim]

sub mariner

who the hizzle is NaMor? you idjits aren't even voting for the right match, it's sub marinar versis mister fantastik. stay on topic
Just in case you're serious:

Namor, the Sub-Mariner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namor)

[Toby_Temple]

I disagree with alot of people who voted for Namor. Reed maximum stretch limit is not 300 feet. He can roughly stretch upto 3 miles(4.8 km = 4800 meters = 15,840 feet). And Reed can also sustain attacks from projectiles like rockets and bullets. And one more thing that most of you failed to notice about Reed's powers. He can expand and SHRINK/COMPRESS his body. If you remembered when Psycho-Man imprisoned him, Reed willfully reduced his body to near liquid state. With this ability, Mr. Fantastic can attack Namor through the holes in his body, like his ears, mouth or nose and strike from the inside.

[Anubis]

Did you know that Namor has an electric attack that could fry the Hulk?

[Sparta*]

Did you know that Namor has an electric attack that could fry the Hulk?

I didn't even know that! That's awesome :D

[U.S War Machine]

Just wondering those two wings on his feet make him jump high right?

[Anubis]

The only reason I know it is because everytime theres a Namor Mention, Guyver Jay brings it up. Even posted a few pics of it. I'm like, well then why the f**k doesn't he use it more often? But anyway, thats why I figure he could take Reed. If he couldn't kill him with it, he could certainly put him down for awhile.

[Anubis]

Just wondering those two wings on his feet make him jump high right?

They help him fly.

[KevanG]

Did you know that Namor has an electric attack that could fry the Hulk?

Science fact kiddies Rubber isn't a good conductor. Nevermind that I voted for Namor :D

[Anubis]

Yeah, you're right. Maybe it wouldn't do anything.

[XFanTim]

I'm not sure I buy the Reed attacking Namor through his pores thing. In his whole 45 year history, how many times has he done an attack like that?

I also thought Namor could only rechannel electricity, but maybe I'm misremembering.

[Toby_Temple]

Did you know that Namor has an electric attack that could fry the Hulk?
Inconsistency. Right now, Hulk can walk away from a direct nuclear explosion. Compared to that, an electric shock is a walk in the park for the green goliath.

[Anubis]

Hey, I'm was just sayin. I've never been a Namor expert. More of an Aquaman guy myself. Still think he'd kick Reed's ass. Unless Reed's got his handy dandy palm piolt that is a doorway to his interdimensional weapons cache.

[Toby_Temple]

How? Punches? Kicks? Going near Reed would be a mistake. Namor's strength is decreasing while Reed increases his body's malleability. Reed's body is strong enough to hold Thing, then it is also strong enough to hold Namor.
Namor's going down.

[JeanGrey[GR]]

Mr. Fantastic

[This I.........]

Mr. Fantastic :thing:

[Artistsean]

I think if they two HAD to fight, and if their LIVES depended on it like it was a FIGHT TO THE DEATH, then both would do all they could and pull no punches. That means Reed would do any and everything, he would use his brain to its fullest, do any and all the stretching he could do including smothering Namor and squeeze though Namor's nose or ear and into his brain. And he would try to take any attack that Namor would throw at him including his punches, which he would absorb being stretchy rubber, and electric attacks,

[kytrigger]

Science fact kiddies Rubber isn't a good conductor. Nevermind that I voted for Namor :D

True, but I'm guessing that even though it isn's a good conducter, that it's strong enough to still do damage. Hell, I doubt if the Hulk a good consuctor either. I really don't know what that last part meant...I'm drunk.

[warren_sparta27]

Reed

[Nathan]

Science fact kiddies Rubber isn't a good conductor. Nevermind that I voted for Namor :D

Yes, but Reed isn't rubber.

[Toby_Temple]

Yes, but Reed isn't rubber.
I thought no one would say that! :up:

[Bastila]

Reed

[Sparta*]

I can't decide who I want to vote for...so i'll just end the match-up at 20 - 15 for Namor! Next match-up in a bit...

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


JUBILEE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Jubilee2.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

WOLFSBANE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Wolfsbane.jpg

[Silicon Surfer]

The puppy dog. Even more fun might have been Rahne vs Catseye. Maybe later?

[Sparta*]

The puppy dog. Even more fun might have been Rahne vs Catseye. Maybe later?

I'll keep that in mind...i'll have to see if I have a Catseye card :p

I've never really liked Jubilee but I do think she's underrated. If she plays her cards right I think she could possibly take this...but the same goes for Rahne.

[Silicon Surfer]

One of the things they haven't mentioned since her initial appearance is that Jubilee doesn't just emit her plasmoids she can control them after they have been released and make them go where she wants them.

[Sparta*]

That's pretty cool. I've always been kind of unsure of Jubilee's power levels...they seem to be inconsistent.

[Red X]

Jubilee

[warren_sparta27]

Jubilee

is she in any of the current x-titles?

[Toby_Temple]

jubillee. she can blow wolfsbane's brains up.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Fireworks scare wolfs...

[U.S War Machine]

Jubs

[Midnight Ice]

Jubilee:xmen:

[K4tzm4n]

Jubilee

[The BatDude]

As much as I hate Jubilee's power I'm voting for her

Jubilee

[Hellstormer]

Wolfsbane

[LongDong]

Wolfsbane. Killer instinct wins this.

[Nathan]

Wolfsbane. One slice to the throat and it's game over.

[LEX]

I've never liked Jubilee.

Reading X-Factor again, I'm gonna have to say Wolfsbane. Don't mess with Wolfsbane. :up:

[1987olds442]

Wolfsbane

[XFanTim]

Hmm . . . this could depend on the battleground. If it's a forest or something where Wolvesbane could sneak up on her, she might be able to get close enough to Jubilee to take her out. But in general, I think if Jubilee cuts loose, Rahne would get fried.

Jubilee.

[The BatDude]

Hmm . . . this could depend on the battleground. If it's a forest or something where Wolvesbane could sneak up on her, she might be able to get close enough to Jubilee to take her out. But in general, I think if Jubilee cuts loose, Rahne would get fried.

Jubilee.
If they do fight in a forest I hope Wolvesbane could like rip her in half or something then leave her to die a slow painful death. Yes that's how much I hate Jubilee

[XFanTim]

Believe me, if I was voting for who I'd want to win, it'd be Rahne by a mile.

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, and here I was thinking I was the only one that hated her. Oh well.

Jubilee

[KevanG]

So the woman who just won't shave vs sparky? Just kidding :D I'd vote Rahne just because I like her more than Jubilee.