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Genesis 1.0
06-23-2006, 04:37 PM
So let me get this straight; you liking Wolfsbane is going to giver her the boost she needs to overcome being blasted in the face?
You own man!
spartin2008
06-23-2006, 05:14 PM
Jubilation Lee, o and if anyone wonders, im back cause we lost power from a storm yesterday, but its back on now!
theoneandonly
06-23-2006, 06:08 PM
wolfs bane
Exploding Boy
06-23-2006, 07:17 PM
I vote Jubilee, as much as I dont want to. She can level cities with her powers. If she doesn't act like a ditz and uses her powers she should win.
Kmack
06-23-2006, 08:33 PM
Jubilee
I vote Jubilee, as much as I dont want to. She can level cities with her powers.
Since when:confused:
Sparta*
06-23-2006, 09:17 PM
I guess i'll vote for Wolfsbane...I really liked her in X-Factor, and I think she would get the jump on Jubilee...and that's all it would take. Jubilee talks too much :p
Iceman/Psylocke
06-23-2006, 10:49 PM
Yeah Rahne has the wiles to outwit Jubilee. The kid might be more powerful but she's not an expert at using her powers yet.
Exploding Boy
06-23-2006, 10:51 PM
Since when
When she really uses her powers she can do amazing things. The thing with her is that like her name Jubilation she's happy. Just because she can doesn't mean she always will, its out of character for her to do things like that often.
Silver Sable
06-23-2006, 11:24 PM
Jubes
Vanguard07
06-24-2006, 01:47 AM
Rahne. She's far more consistently skilled than Jubes. Sure jubilee supposedly has a lot of potential power but i've rarely seen her use it effectively.
Rahne, I think, would be too fast and agile for jubes and would make short work of her.
foxx5
06-24-2006, 01:58 AM
jubilee
Sparta*
06-24-2006, 02:27 AM
14 - 11 for Jubilee is the final tally
Sparta*
06-24-2006, 02:51 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg
SAURON
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Sauron.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp
LIZARD
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Lizard2.jpg
Sparta*
06-24-2006, 02:52 AM
This match-up was requested by TOBY TEMPLE ages ago! lol sorry for forgettin' Toby!
Slim31
06-24-2006, 03:14 AM
Thanks to the Spiderman and Xmen cartoons I hate both of these idiots. still I'll take Sauron cause he's a mutant and is less annoying...or is he more(oh well)
Exploding Boy
06-24-2006, 03:23 AM
Sauron can siphon life forces can't he? Or do they have to be a mutant? Still he can fly and has energy blast. I give it to him
Artistsean
06-24-2006, 03:52 AM
I like the Lizard better, something about him is cooler. Something about Sauron bugs me. maybe its how he was portrayed in Weapon X, I don't know.
I'll go with Lizard.
JeanGrey[GR]
06-24-2006, 04:13 AM
Lizard
theoneandonly
06-24-2006, 06:13 AM
lizard
Bastila
06-24-2006, 06:31 AM
lizard
spartin2008
06-24-2006, 07:08 AM
Toughy...i think i would only vote for Lizard cause i like him more...i would have to say that Sauron would take this....so he gets the vote
Silicon Surfer
06-24-2006, 07:27 AM
Sauron, flight,hypnosis and illusion is a big advantage.
Toby_Temple
06-24-2006, 07:27 AM
This match-up was requested by TOBY TEMPLE ages ago! lol sorry for forgettin' Toby!
YEY!:) Thanks alot!:up:
And I'm voting for Sauron. He can always drain Lizard's life force.
torkibe
06-24-2006, 08:02 AM
I'm gonna say Sauron. The Lizard seems like a one trick pony. He's strong and has healing factor, but Sauron has too many other things going for him. The only X factor could be The Lizard's ability to telepathically control reptiles. I doubt this would affect Sauron, but if it did than that could change things.
Oh, and for the record, Sauron isn't a mutant. He just hangs out with them ;)
Kmack
06-24-2006, 12:34 PM
Sauron
K4tzm4n
06-24-2006, 12:35 PM
Sauron
U.S War Machine
06-24-2006, 12:37 PM
Lizzy!
Genesis 1.0
06-24-2006, 01:16 PM
Sauron can win this one without ever coming close to Lizard, which is Doc Conners only advantage; Strength. His Durability won't stand up to Sauron's aerial based blasts for long, not to mention if Sauron manages to hypnotize him. Suaron has every weapon he needs to end this one and there's not a damn thing Lizard can do about it.
Sauron
LongDong
06-24-2006, 02:07 PM
Sauron
3dman27
06-24-2006, 02:10 PM
lizard
Hellstormer
06-24-2006, 02:13 PM
Sauron
Genesis 1.0
06-24-2006, 02:17 PM
Man I really miss the 'Explanation' ruling.
Vanguard07
06-24-2006, 02:30 PM
I doubt either of their respective hypnotic abilities would work on their opponents and Sauron's fire breath likely wouldnt get past Lizard's armored hide.
Also Sauron's life draining abilities require physical contact and if Sauron got close enough to try that Lizard could do some serious damage first.
So honestly I could see this fight going either way. Probably depending on which incarnation of the Lizard and his particular mental capacity.
On average though... i guess i'll give it to Sauron cause of the flight. The high ground is a huge advantage.
Genesis 1.0
06-24-2006, 02:33 PM
What exactly makes you think Sauron's hypnotism would fail? Any reasons in the past that would indicate that? I don't think so, especically since he's taken over much more complex minds.
As to his breath, Lizard's Durable but no way in Hell does he shrug off a direct hit from Sauron, espeically since he's guaranteed to tag him several times from the air.
Sparta*
06-24-2006, 06:48 PM
I thought Sauron could only drain a mutants lifeforce.....?
Silicon Surfer
06-24-2006, 06:55 PM
I thought Sauron could only drain a mutants lifeforce.....?
Yes as far as I know he can only drain mutants. However his hypnotic powers are extremely powerful. They are said to be stronger than Mesmeros
foxx5
06-24-2006, 08:14 PM
Sauron
Sparta*
06-24-2006, 08:37 PM
11 - 7 for Sauron so far...
bcd90
06-24-2006, 09:27 PM
I know Im about 200 pages too late, but the fact that Mystique won over Domino? Whats that about? I am about to prove you all wrong. Mystiques morphing abilities do not help her in a one-on-one fight seeing as she cant increase her strength or anything of the sort. However Domino luck can help her. Maybe not significantly but nonetheless it will help. So as someone else said it basically comes down to who is the better one-on-one fighter.
On MarvelDirectory.com Mystiques profile does not even once mention her fighting ability. If she was a good fighter they would most certainly mention it. All it says is "Mystique possesses the normal human strength of a woman of her physical age, height, and build who engages in regular exercise".
On to Domino, Marveldirectory.com says
"Strength level: Athlete
Fighting skills: Extensive training in various armed combat techniques and the martial arts
Special skills and abilities: Superb marksman with various firearms, highly skilled athlete, excellent swimmer, adept in use of explosives
Special weaponry: Staff that fires unspecified ammunition, can be used for balance when jumping, is equipped with sensors."
Alot more then Mystique has so whether they are using weapons Domino wins hands down.
And in addition to that http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/Marvel_OverPower/MarvelOverpowerPics/mopheroes/Mystique.jpg
Mystiques card has 4 fighting (8 being the best). Thats not very good at all
As for Domino http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/Marvel_OverPower/MarvelOverpowerPics/mopheroes/Domino.jpg
She has 8 fighting (best possible number) and trust me thats quite rare
So can we all admit that despite Mystique being cool and having neat powers, Domino would still win?
Silver Sable
06-24-2006, 10:51 PM
Sauron
XFanTim
06-24-2006, 11:50 PM
Hmm, I guess I'll go with the Lizard. Sure Sauron has flight, hypnosis, etc., but I still think he's going to have to come in close to finish Lizard off. And there Lizard's superior strength and regeneration give him the edge.
KevanG
06-24-2006, 11:55 PM
I'd have to say that it would depend where they were fighting. If they were in the sewers Lizard would have a huge advantage. Even if they fought in a swamp the lizard would have plenty of hiding places, I don't think Lizard would just be out in open spaces running around. I vote Lizard, it might not be easy but I think he could pull it off :D
torkibe
06-24-2006, 11:56 PM
I thought Sauron could only drain a mutants lifeforce.....?
Nope. He's drained all types of creature's to survive. Draining mutants is what usually sets him off, but he can drain all types.
Venom.Symbiote
06-25-2006, 12:21 AM
I have to go with the Lizard. So Sauron has a form of hypnosis as a power BUT I believe he has to maintain eye contact with his victim for it to work and the Lizard isn't going to stand around and let him do what he wants. Plus, not only does the Lizard possess strength, agility and speed comparable to Spider-Man's he can also control reptiles within a one mile radius. Last time I checked, Pteradactyls were reptiles so I think Sauron may fail prey to Liazrd's telepathic commands before he can do much of anything else. :venom:
Sparta*
06-25-2006, 02:10 AM
I know Im about 200 pages too late, but the fact that Mystique won over Domino? Whats that about? I am about to prove you all wrong. Mystiques morphing abilities do not help her in a one-on-one fight seeing as she cant increase her strength or anything of the sort. However Domino luck can help her. Maybe not significantly but nonetheless it will help. So as someone else said it basically comes down to who is the better one-on-one fighter.
On MarvelDirectory.com Mystiques profile does not even once mention her fighting ability. If she was a good fighter they would most certainly mention it. All it says is "Mystique possesses the normal human strength of a woman of her physical age, height, and build who engages in regular exercise".
On to Domino, Marveldirectory.com says
"Strength level: Athlete
Fighting skills: Extensive training in various armed combat techniques and the martial arts
Special skills and abilities: Superb marksman with various firearms, highly skilled athlete, excellent swimmer, adept in use of explosives
Special weaponry: Staff that fires unspecified ammunition, can be used for balance when jumping, is equipped with sensors."
Alot more then Mystique has so whether they are using weapons Domino wins hands down.
And in addition to that http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/Marvel_OverPower/MarvelOverpowerPics/mopheroes/Mystique.jpg
Mystiques card has 4 fighting (8 being the best). Thats not very good at all
As for Domino http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/Marvel_OverPower/MarvelOverpowerPics/mopheroes/Domino.jpg
She has 8 fighting (best possible number) and trust me thats quite rare
So can we all admit that despite Mystique being cool and having neat powers, Domino would still win?
Mystique won the match-up fair and square. I don't know who you think you are dealing with, but if you are going to try and pull a fast one on the people who visit this thread, you better not use marvel cards to prove your point because I have about 15,000...including the two you posted, and the other two IQ hero cards that you failed to post which show Mystique is very evenly matched with Domino. Also, if you want to get really technical, on Mystique's IQ card it says that her fighting cards are +1 for attack, so that would make them both at an equal 7. Thanks for coming out though :up:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/MystiqueDomino.jpg
Sparta*
06-25-2006, 02:12 AM
I'll vote for the Lizard bringing the current tally to 12 - 11 for Sauron...
Anubis
06-25-2006, 02:16 AM
Them Luck people, kinda hard to gague just what will happen.
On paper, Mystique should win, but things have a way of falling into place when Domino is involved. (As we so often here when she shows up.)
Domino I guess.
Sparta*
06-25-2006, 02:19 AM
Them Luck people, kinda hard to gague just what will happen.
On paper, Mystique should win, but things have a way of falling into place when Domino is involved. (As we so often here when she shows up.)
Domino I guess.
I don't know whats luckier then being able to change into anyone whenever you want to give yourself an advantage lol none the less, that match-up is done and over with, I just wanted to deliver an old fashioned marvel card school-down.
Iceman/Psylocke
06-25-2006, 03:55 AM
Wow 15,000 cards is an impressive collection Sparta :eek:
Sauron has superior abilities to Lizard but I don't think he could finish him off from long range. As soon as he gets close, the game changes.
& more importantly Lizard is just a cooler character than Sauron ;)
Silicon Surfer
06-25-2006, 04:14 AM
The entry for Sauron at Marvel.com says that he has superhuman strength as well as flight,hypnosis, concussive energy, and flame.It also appears that he can indeed drain non mutants. The Lizard doesn't stand a chance.
Sparta*
06-25-2006, 06:48 AM
Wow 15,000 cards is an impressive collection Sparta :eek:
Sauron has superior abilities to Lizard but I don't think he could finish him off from long range. As soon as he gets close, the game changes.
& more importantly Lizard is just a cooler character than Sauron ;)
Thanks :D
With your vote Iceman/Psylocke, the match-up is tied at 12 - 12. Next vote is the tie-breaker! Until then......
Sparta*
06-25-2006, 07:01 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg
DAZZLER
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Dazzler.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp
SPIDER-WOMAN
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Spider-Woman2.jpg
theoneandonly
06-25-2006, 07:04 AM
spider-woman
JeanGrey[GR]
06-25-2006, 07:13 AM
Spider Woman
warren_sparta27
06-25-2006, 09:11 AM
Spider Woman
Nathan
06-25-2006, 09:39 AM
Ok, I didn't know a thing about Dazzler until I read her bio on marveldirectory.com. I just thought she was some lame Disco queen with light affects and that's it. But it seems she can hold her own pretty good with her abilities.
Shooting lasers, blinding enemies, ****ing up their equilibrium as well, protective shield that vapourizes oncoming projectiles, Holograms, etc. And she was trained by Cyclops so she knows hand-to-hand combat.
I like Spider-Woman, but I'll vote Dazzler.
Bastila
06-25-2006, 09:44 AM
Dazzler.
Vanguard07
06-25-2006, 10:52 AM
Spiderwoman. But Dazzler'd probably make it interesting at least.
bcd90
06-25-2006, 10:55 AM
Mystique won the match-up fair and square. I don't know who you think you are dealing with, but if you are going to try and pull a fast one on the people who visit this thread, you better not use marvel cards to prove your point because I have about 15,000...including the two you posted, and the other two IQ hero cards that you failed to post which show Mystique is very evenly matched with Domino. Also, if you want to get really technical, on Mystique's IQ card it says that her fighting cards are +1 for attack, so that would make them both at an equal 7. Thanks for coming out though :up:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/MystiqueDomino.jpg
Ok, so you say they are matched up now because of her IQ cards, making them an even fighter somehow. But now that I think about it these cards arent very accurate. Why would Sabretooth and Wolverine have 8 fighting, when they have been beaten by the likes of Elektra before who has has only 6 fighting. And just beacuase she had 6 fighting in her IQ card does not excuse the fact that she has a 4 in her normal hero card. I think its safe to say the 8 and 7 is better then 4 and 7. So excluding these cards, why doesnt marveldirectory mention anywhere about Mystiques fighting skills? In fact, in the cartoons Mystique is absolutely helpless without her gun. Anyways, I couldnt care less, I just think Mystique unfairly won because you people think she is cool or something. I think Mystique is a better character too, but being fair I think Domino should of won.
bcd90
06-25-2006, 10:59 AM
http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/Marvel_OverPower/MarvelOverpowerPics/mopheroes/SpiderWomanIQ.jpg
http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/Marvel_OverPower/MarvelOverpowerPics/mopheroes/DazzlerIQ.jpg
Yea, Im going to have to say Spiderwoman.
kytrigger
06-25-2006, 11:49 AM
Ok, so you say they are matched up now because of her IQ cards, making them an even fighter somehow. But now that I think about it these cards arent very accurate. Why would Sabretooth and Wolverine have 8 fighting, when they have been beaten by the likes of Elektra before who has has only 6 fighting. And just beacuase she had 6 fighting in her IQ card does not excuse the fact that she has a 4 in her normal hero card. I think its safe to say the 8 and 7 is better then 4 and 7. So excluding these cards, why doesnt marveldirectory mention anywhere about Mystiques fighting skills? In fact, in the cartoons Mystique is absolutely helpless without her gun. Anyways, I couldnt care less, I just think Mystique unfairly won because you people think she is cool or something. I think Mystique is a better character too, but being fair I think Domino should of won.
Welcome to the real world then. Yes sometimes certain people do win because they are more popular, but not always. And a lot of people's votes can be swayed by a really good argument for the other character. Unfortunately, you came 200 pages too late with your argument. It might not be the most fair thing ever, but Sparta works hard and it is pretty fair most of the time.
Sparta even tried making it so that your vote only counted if you gave reasons why they would win, but then characters would only win by a vote of 2-1, so he switched back.
U.S War Machine
06-25-2006, 12:49 PM
Spider Woman
Hellstormer
06-25-2006, 01:15 PM
Spider-Woman, gotta love the TK webs.
psycho
06-25-2006, 03:17 PM
Spider-Woman
Anubis
06-25-2006, 03:29 PM
I'm gonna go with Dazzler on this one.
KevanG
06-25-2006, 03:46 PM
Spider-woman gets my vote.
Sparta*
06-25-2006, 04:16 PM
Ok, so you say they are matched up now because of her IQ cards, making them an even fighter somehow. But now that I think about it these cards arent very accurate. Why would Sabretooth and Wolverine have 8 fighting, when they have been beaten by the likes of Elektra before who has has only 6 fighting. And just beacuase she had 6 fighting in her IQ card does not excuse the fact that she has a 4 in her normal hero card. I think its safe to say the 8 and 7 is better then 4 and 7. So excluding these cards, why doesnt marveldirectory mention anywhere about Mystiques fighting skills? In fact, in the cartoons Mystique is absolutely helpless without her gun. Anyways, I couldnt care less, I just think Mystique unfairly won because you people think she is cool or something. I think Mystique is a better character too, but being fair I think Domino should of won.
Honestly, I don't know how they decided the rankings on the Overpower cards. I looked through some of them yesterday because I was curious, and I found that Spider-man and Shang-Chi master of Kung Fu only have a 7 fighting ranking out of 8, when Domino has 8 on her one card...thats kinda ridiculous...i'm sure Domino isn't a better fighter then Spider-man and Shang-Chi lol :D Equally disturbing is the fact that Thor and the Thing only have a 6 out of 8 for their fighting number!
Sparta*
06-25-2006, 04:18 PM
It might not be the most fair thing ever, but Sparta works hard and it is pretty fair most of the time.
Sparta even tried making it so that your vote only counted if you gave reasons why they would win, but then characters would only win by a vote of 2-1, so he switched back.
Thanks Kytrigger :up: :)
KevanG
06-25-2006, 04:19 PM
Honestly, I don't know how they decided the rankings on the Overpower cards. I looked through some of them yesterday because I was curious, and I found that Spider-man and Shang-Chi master of Kung Fu only have a 7 fighting ranking out of 8, when Domino has 8 on her one card...thats kinda ridiculous...i'm sure Domino isn't a better fighter then Spider-man and Shang-Chi lol :D
They had spider-man and domino fight and he beat her without throwing a punch. (Contest of Champions 2)
Silicon Surfer
06-25-2006, 04:42 PM
Dazzler would easily win this one. Her original attack could overload the nervous system and was powerful enough to briefly stun the Hulk. After her training in addition to the above mentioned tactics she could also generate solid light eye beams mimicing Cyclops optic blasts. She also has no upper limit on her powers. With enough sound she can and has exceeded the power level of some of Galactus' heralds. She is far out of Spider Womans power class.
bcd90
06-25-2006, 05:19 PM
I dont quite understand the ranking of the overpower cards either. How does Wolverine and Sabretooth have 8 fighting? And Thor only has 4 energy and 6 strength? I thought he was an almighty god. And Elektra only has 6 fighting. And Im not sure why there is a massive difference between normal heros and then heros that have intellect. Psylockes normal hero has 5 energy and her intellect hero has 7. Im not sure which one to believe.
Toby_Temple
06-25-2006, 09:35 PM
Dazzler. She can convert sound to into infinite forms of light attack, from simple light shows to powerful photon blasts to forcefields, etc.
Silver Sable
06-25-2006, 11:09 PM
Dazzler
Venom.Symbiote
06-26-2006, 12:44 AM
Ok, first let me get this straight. This Julia Carpenter and not Jessica Drew right? I guess it doesn't matter since I'm voting for Dazzler anyway. The only way I see her losing this one is if she was kept in silence for a long period of time and they were placed out in the middle of nowhere to fight. She's just got too much raw power when properly charged. I like both characters but I don't think Spider-Woman can win this one. :venom:
Sparta*
06-26-2006, 02:56 AM
I'll vote for Dazzler bringing the final tally to 9 - 8 in favor of Spider-Woman! Boo-urns to a measely 17 votes! :mad: :down
Sparta*
06-26-2006, 02:59 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg
ATLAS
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Atlas.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp
BLACK BOLT
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Blackbolt3.jpg
Sparta*
06-26-2006, 03:01 AM
This match-up was a request from KYTRIGGER :up: :D Sorry it took me so long to post it :O
Ahura Mazda
06-26-2006, 03:05 AM
Assuming this is not the titan Atlas who held up the Earth, have to go with Blackbolt
Nathan
06-26-2006, 03:07 AM
Oh come on, seriously, Blackbolt takes this one.
Silicon Surfer
06-26-2006, 03:09 AM
Black Bolt
XFanTim
06-26-2006, 04:54 AM
If Black Bolt so much as whispers, Atlas is history.
Black Bolt
Toby_Temple
06-26-2006, 05:00 AM
If this was a contest on who is taller, Atlas wins hands down. But its not. Its an all out battle. So I'm voting for the guy who could rock anybody's world with a careless whisper, Black Bolt!
K4tzm4n
06-26-2006, 06:31 AM
black bolt
3dman27
06-26-2006, 06:48 AM
atlas
Harlekin
06-26-2006, 07:50 AM
Black Bolt, with his hands tied behind his back.
Vanguard07
06-26-2006, 09:24 AM
EVEN if this WAS a who's taller competition Black Bolt would still win. Just yell at atlas once and there wouldnt be a single piece bigger than a shoebox.
Honestly Atlas has no chance. Black Bolt could take him easy.
Few people realize just how powerful the king of the inhumans is.
He used to regularly hold his own against people like the thing, the hulk, namor, thor, gladiator etc WITHOUT using his voice.
His voice is just his ace in the whole. He doesnt need it.
Black Bolt wins easy.
Red X
06-26-2006, 10:12 AM
Atlas
torkibe
06-26-2006, 10:15 AM
EVEN if this WAS a who's taller competition Black Bolt would still win. Just yell at atlas once and there wouldnt be a single piece bigger than a shoebox.
Honestly Atlas has no chance. Black Bolt could take him easy.
Few people realize just how powerful the king of the inhumans is.
He used to regularly hold his own against people like the thing, the hulk, namor, thor, gladiator etc WITHOUT using his voice.
His voice is just his ace in the whole. He doesnt need it.
Black Bolt wins easy.
My sentiments exactly. In fact, unless they were fighting somewhere that he couldn't do much collateral damage, i don't think BB would even use his voice, and he could still win.
bcd90
06-26-2006, 10:40 AM
Blackbolt
Anubis
06-26-2006, 11:02 AM
While Atlas is a lot more than a giant guy, (He's more like if you gave Wonder Man the ability to grow giant) he still doesn't really stand a chance against Black Bolt unless, they are fighting in a highly populated area where using his voice would hurt innocent people. (and even then, Black Bolt might simply consider them collateral damage.) Because without it, Atlas is probally stronger.
But over all, i'll just go ahead and go with Black bolt. That voice can destroy mountains. he'd destroy Atlas.
Colossal Spoons
06-26-2006, 11:26 AM
Atlas
As the lone Atlas voter, you care to give an explanation? :p
This I.........
06-26-2006, 12:11 PM
BLACK BOLT
Lady Stormcrow
06-26-2006, 12:29 PM
Black bolt easily!
He could take him down by saying a single letter of the alphabet
kytrigger
06-26-2006, 12:36 PM
Wow. Sorry guys. I was looking back and I did PM this match-up, and I completely screwed it up.
I meant Blackbolt vs. Ares not Atlas...sorry guys/gals.:O
Thanks Sparta for posting it though!, and I guess Blackbolt
SSJ4_Mikael
06-26-2006, 12:38 PM
As he said; Black Blot's takes this with both hands tied behind his back, his leg's tied together as well and blind-folded.
Hellstormer
06-26-2006, 12:47 PM
BlackBolt
psycho
06-26-2006, 01:22 PM
Black Bolt
torkibe
06-26-2006, 01:23 PM
You know, you would think that with all the geniuses around, not to mention the Sorcerer Supreme, someone would have come up with a way that Blackbolt could speak without using his "voice". Beyond simple writing and sign language. You know, some type of device that responds to his thoughts and then speaks for him.
U.S War Machine
06-26-2006, 02:09 PM
Black Bolt
1987olds442
06-26-2006, 02:10 PM
Black Bolt
PaleRider
06-26-2006, 02:14 PM
yup Black Bolt
Sparta*
06-26-2006, 05:20 PM
21 - 2 for Black Bolt so far lol
Genesis 1.0
06-26-2006, 05:27 PM
Black Bolt from sheer surprise: "WTF?"
No more Atlas.
Silver Sable
06-26-2006, 05:34 PM
Black Bolt
kytrigger
06-26-2006, 06:25 PM
21 - 2 for Black Bolt so far lol
Yeah, I screwed that one up pretty good...oh well.
Thanks for posting the match-up anyway.
theoneandonly
06-26-2006, 06:26 PM
black bolt
Sparta*
06-26-2006, 06:34 PM
Yeah, I screwed that one up pretty good...oh well.
Thanks for posting the match-up anyway.
it's not your fault, you meant to say Ares :up: and don't worry, i've had far worse match-ups :p
K4tzm4n
06-26-2006, 08:52 PM
Hmmm....I think an interesting match up might be Deadpool v Wolverine...
Silicon Surfer
06-26-2006, 09:25 PM
How about the current Hulk vs the Maestro so that we can watch the fanboys overload and explode. Then we're rid of them until a new crop show up.
Colossal Spoons
06-26-2006, 09:33 PM
How about Avalannche vs Pre-HOM Richtor?
Kmack
06-26-2006, 10:32 PM
Black Bolt
Artistsean
06-26-2006, 10:41 PM
Blackbolt not only has the powerful voice that keesp him from speaking, but can't he also fly and has super strength and such?
Plus he seesm incredibly wise.
I think try as Atlas might, smashing around trying to destroy Blackbolt, he would be easily beaten by Blackbolt. Plus his design is so much cooler.
Sparta*
06-26-2006, 10:44 PM
How about the current Hulk vs the Maestro so that we can watch the fanboys overload and explode. Then we're rid of them until a new crop show up.
lol :p
Sparta*
06-26-2006, 10:46 PM
How about Avalannche vs Pre-HOM Richtor?
I was thinking of having this match-up as well...I just have to get a card for Avalanche...I have a bunch with him in the background...but never the primary focus. Maybe i'll just use one of those anyway...only time can tell :D
Artistsean
06-26-2006, 10:51 PM
How about Super Adaptoid versus Awesome Android, or vuses Gargoyal Man or MODOCK?
Colossal Spoons
06-26-2006, 10:53 PM
I was thinking of having this match-up as well...I just have to get a card for Avalanche...I have a bunch with him in the background...but never the primary focus. Maybe i'll just use one of those anyway...only time can tell :D
All I know is if those two fight, they better be in the middle of Arizona or something cuz the property damage would be nuts :p
Sparta*
06-27-2006, 12:43 AM
alright, I get the picture, you all love Blackbolt with the exception of 2 people :p 26 - 2 is the final tally for the King of the Inhumans :up:
Next match-up momentarily...
Sparta*
06-27-2006, 12:59 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg
ARCHANGEL
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Archangel4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp
G A M B I T
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Gambit3-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp
WOLVERINE(Bone Claws)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/WolverineBone2.jpg
Sparta*
06-27-2006, 12:59 AM
**This is a last man standing match-up**
I'll repeat: Wolverine has his BONE CLAWS!
gambit...cuz he will team up with archangel to kill wolverine...then he will blow up archangels wings...booyah
Sparta*
06-27-2006, 01:19 AM
I don't think Archangel would team up with Gambit...i'm sure he's still kinda sore about the whole mutant massacre/marauder/Gambit working for Sinister ordeal.
Toby_Temple
06-27-2006, 02:10 AM
Gambit. He'll blow those two up to kingdom come.
Colossal Spoons
06-27-2006, 02:12 AM
Archangel.
Sparta*
06-27-2006, 02:34 AM
Current results...
2 - Gambit
1 - Archangel
0 - Wolverine
Silicon Surfer
06-27-2006, 02:43 AM
Archangel, he fights from the air where the other two can't reach him and at better than mach 1. The neurotoxin on his feathers would take Gambit down instantly and Wolverine would fall eventually to toxin and wounds.
XFanTim
06-27-2006, 02:48 AM
Archangel and Gambit each have long range attacks, whereas Wolverine doesn't, giving them a pretty major advantage. More so in Archangel's case, since he can also use flight to stay ought of Wolverine's range (assuming the fight takes place outdoors where he has space to maneuver.
Between Warren and Gambit it's a tough call, I think either one really needs just one hit to take the other out. But I'll give Archangel the edge on maneuverability (Gambit is acrobatic, but that can't trump flight) so he'll be able to dodge for longer.
I vote Archangel.
Toby_Temple
06-27-2006, 02:51 AM
Archangel, he fights from the air where the other two can't reach him and at better than mach 1. The neurotoxin on his feathers would take Gambit down instantly and Wolverine would fall eventually to toxin and wounds.
Gambit can attack from afar as well. And his attack can explode in midair. So even if Archangel can avoid being hit directly, the explosion will ruin his equillibrium and then he gets hit.
Silicon Surfer
06-27-2006, 02:58 AM
At the speed and height that Archangel can fight from Gambit would not even be able to get anything close to him. Since Warren can fly faster than the speed of sound Gambit would not be able to even see him unless he wanted him to.
Iceman/Psylocke
06-27-2006, 04:36 AM
With Wolverine's senses he'll be ready whenever Archangel chooses to attack. Staying in the sky means Archangel can obviously choose not to be defeated but he won't be able to surprise Wolvie however long he waits. Wolvie's healing factor can soak up the hits from his toxic blades (I don't know how long Archangel can keep sending these out). So I'd call this a stalemate unless Archangel tries to win by coming in closer, and then he'd lose. Either way, close match.
I don't think Gambit has much of a case for victory here. His explosive effects are not strong enough to kill Wolverine and while the two characters share a lot of strengths in guile, combat skills and determination, Gambit is the talented young guy while Wolverine is the master veteran.
Artistsean
06-27-2006, 04:36 AM
I'd say first to fall would be Angel, leaving only Gambit and Wolverine to fight.
I can't belive how low Wolverine's votes are. Even with him only havingt bone claws. He is still a vicious fighter and has healing that allows him to regrow his heart.
I think Wolverine wins this last man standing.:wolverine
Ahura Mazda
06-27-2006, 05:06 AM
I would think Angel would at least survive the initail encounter simply by staying out of range. Could Gambit cause Wolverine to explode by charging his bones with kinetic energy? If so this would end up being Angel against Gambit and I think ArchAngel could take it.
Toby_Temple
06-27-2006, 05:10 AM
At the speed and height that Archangel can fight from Gambit would not even be able to get anything close to him. Since Warren can fly faster than the speed of sound Gambit would not be able to even see him unless he wanted him to.
And with such height, it will take alot of time to pinpoint his target. He does not have special eyes. Gambit only needs to get to an elevated area. As for Wolverine, without his adamantium, Gambit can use his stick to block Logan's claws. Then he can just put a tiny piece of kinetically charged pebble in Logan's ears and boom, Logan goes down.
theoneandonly
06-27-2006, 06:09 AM
gambit
coz of my avatar
warren_sparta27
06-27-2006, 08:49 AM
Gambit
Red X
06-27-2006, 09:04 AM
G A M B I T
Damascus013
06-27-2006, 09:25 AM
Though i'm a wolvie fan, i'd go with Archangel. He has the speed and the killer instinct. He could easily chop off both wolvies (assuming he has no adamantium) and gambit's head off.
K4tzm4n
06-27-2006, 10:23 AM
Gambit
JeanGrey[GR]
06-27-2006, 10:26 AM
gambit
3dman27
06-27-2006, 10:28 AM
m'sieu le beau
Silver Sable
06-27-2006, 10:33 AM
The Cajun
Colossal Spoons
06-27-2006, 10:59 AM
gambit
coz of my avatar
Nice :rolleyes:
kytrigger
06-27-2006, 11:38 AM
Archangel, his flight and speed trump everything else.
1987olds442
06-27-2006, 12:28 PM
Wolverine
Hellstormer
06-27-2006, 12:57 PM
I have a feelng Gambit would win cause he could try and grab on to Logans claws and explosively charge them then he would do the same to Archangels wings and he'd win by Default.
Warhammer
06-27-2006, 01:05 PM
Edit: I change my vote.
I vote for Gambit.
bcd90
06-27-2006, 01:56 PM
Even though it'd be a close one between Gambit and Archangel, I'd have to sat Gambit though.
Sparta*
06-27-2006, 02:46 PM
Current Standings:
Archangel - 6
Gambit - 12
Wolverine - 2
Silicon Surfer
06-27-2006, 03:00 PM
And with such height, it will take alot of time to pinpoint his target. He does not have special eyes. Gambit only needs to get to an elevated area. As for Wolverine, without his adamantium, Gambit can use his stick to block Logan's claws. Then he can just put a tiny piece of kinetically charged pebble in Logan's ears and boom, Logan goes down.
Actually, Warren has fantastic vision. The distance sight of an eagle and the night sight of an owl. He also has a homing sense like that of some birds. LIke an owl he could spot Logan skulking in the shadows from a mile up on a dark night.
Genesis 1.0
06-27-2006, 03:56 PM
Pretty versatile match, the fact that Logan's claws are bone eliminates him being able to cut Warren's organic steel wings. Still with a sick experience edge over both these guys, I can see Logan lasting a while. I've no doubt that both Gambit and Warren will zone in on what they'll feel is their biggest threat: the regenerating midget with a habit for rage. So Logan will last, that is until Warren starts throwing razor tipped wings around and slices something vital that'll take Wolverine a while to heal, in that space of time, he'll probably get the Big Joker up his ass.
Which leaves Gambit and Archangel, seeing that Gambit can charge damn near anything, then no matter the surrounding, he's got ammunition and he can set traps for Archangel, in addition he's a master thief with nasty reflexes and agility. A few exploding projectiles above and around him to drive him lower, then the 52 Card finish. Remy walks away from this one.
Gambit
Sparta*
06-27-2006, 04:00 PM
I think Warrens speed, and flight advantage would give him the win
Archangel gets my vote :up:
Bastila
06-27-2006, 04:58 PM
Archangel.
XFanTim
06-27-2006, 06:22 PM
I think somebody mentioned this, but the fact that Archangel can stay out of range as long as he wants is a big advantage. He can hang out up in the sky while Wolverine and Gambit fight it out, and then swoop down and finish off whichever one is still standing (who will probably be tired and possibly injured).
I'm not surprised Logan's votes are low. Even with adamantium, he's had some pretty even fights with Gambit and Archangel.
LongDong
06-27-2006, 06:25 PM
The winged wonder wins this one.
vindrow
06-27-2006, 08:57 PM
Well, since Wolvie only has his bone claws, then this fight would go to Archangel.
Toby_Temple
06-27-2006, 09:47 PM
Actually, Warren has fantastic vision. The distance sight of an eagle and the night sight of an owl. He also has a homing sense like that of some birds. LIke an owl he could spot Logan skulking in the shadows from a mile up on a dark night.
I stand corrected. But Warren does not have Bullseye's special talent. Gambit is quite agile and can dodge Warren's attacks. Even if Warren can see him from a mile up, that distance is a disadvantage for him if he intends to use projectile attacks. Therefore, Archangel needs to move closer. And that is when Gambit will make his attack. A projectile attack that explodes is alot better than one that doesn't.
Silicon Surfer
06-27-2006, 10:02 PM
The wing blades are hurled in volleys that usually cover an area. The advantage of this is that wherever Gambit dodges to the blades are coming down thete too. Warren can still do this from a height that is beyond Gambits throwing range. Warren is also very accurate and is probably not much if any less coordinated than Gambit.
wiegeabo
06-27-2006, 10:20 PM
Gambit
Toby_Temple
06-27-2006, 10:30 PM
The wing blades are hurled in volleys that usually cover an area. The advantage of this is that wherever Gambit dodges to the blades are coming down thete too. Warren can still do this from a height that is beyond Gambits throwing range. Warren is also very accurate and is probably not much if any less coordinated than Gambit.
True, but in a farther distance is the chance to take notice of the projectiles better coz of the fact that it takes longer time to reach its target compared to a shorter distance. Gambit can easily send a single projectile to explode and shatter Archangel's blades. The explosion can also hide Gambit while he maneuvers and attack.
Silicon Surfer
06-27-2006, 11:29 PM
If Warren were launching from a stationary position you would have a good point. But from an person moving with the speed of a fighter jet and a lot more manueverability that approach is pretty much useless. The blades would be coming in with the speed of rifle bullets and would be essentially invisibile. If he were circling they would come from different directions at the same time, possibly even from opposite directions depending on speed and radius of the curve. It would be possible to have attacks coming from multiple directions in less than a second. His wings can move with the speed of hummingbird wings and may be able to launch a volley with every beat. The actual rate of "fire" of his wings has not been mentioned however. Have you seen the program on tv about the Metalstorm guns being developed for the military?
Toby_Temple
06-28-2006, 12:24 AM
That is also possible if Gambit has allowed himself to be out in an open space and if Warren came by flying and knows that he is going to fight Gambit. This is a random battle with no prep time. By the time Warren prepares for the fight by going midair, Gambit would already be in stalking mode, so is Wolverine. Wolvering will obviously attack Gambit first. Archangel will do the same to eliminate the only other person capable of long range attack.
As for Gambit, he can deal with Wolvering by waiting for him. Wolvering would not want Archangel to see him while he is busy dealing with Gambit. So those two would fight out of Archangel's sight.
Vanguard07
06-28-2006, 12:47 AM
ummmm riiiight. As soon as the fight starts Angel'd be in the air. It wouldnt matter if he knew who he was fighting. It's his schtick. He flies. Gambit could be in "stalking mode" all he wanted. It wouldnt make any difference. The second he let his guard down or got distracted by any little thing like say a twig snapping or a car horn or a short hairy pugnacious mutant with a healing factor and a problem getting along with others, Angel could strike.
He has by far better position, range, speed, mobility and perception. He could watch both Wolverine and Gambit the whole fight waiting for his moment to strike and they wouldnt even know he was up there.
Yes Gambit probably packs more punch with his charged objects than Warren does with his flechettes but it's not like he'd have any advantage trading blows because of it. Gambit would take Warren out with a single shot. Warren would take gambit out with a single shot.
As I said above Warren has by far better range, speed, mobility and perception. He also has just as much combat skill as gambit does. He's one of the original x-men after all. So who do you think is more likely to get that single shot in?
Realistically gambit stands no chance here if the fight is outdoors or in a large enough area for Angel to maneuver.
Same goes for Wolverine. He has no chance against angel either but he does have a decent shot at bringing Gambit down.
Warren'd be bringing the prize home on this one for sure.
Toby_Temple
06-28-2006, 01:33 AM
Thats the problem. We can speculate about what the battleground would be. In an open plain where not even a 4 foot bush exists, Warren wins hands down. I thought that it would be logical to make those three fight in lets say a place with ruins of buildings or in a forest to even things out a bit.
So Sparta, where is this battle taking place?
Sparta*
06-28-2006, 02:24 AM
Outdoors
The Leaguer
06-28-2006, 02:38 AM
Archangel, because Wolverine and Gambit are tools.
Sparta*
06-28-2006, 05:04 AM
Final Tally:
12 - Archangel
14 - Gambit
2 - Wolverine
Sparta*
06-28-2006, 05:12 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg
V E N O M
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Venom4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp
SCARLET SPIDER
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/ScarletSpider.jpg
Sparta*
06-28-2006, 05:13 AM
The new Spider-man 3 trailer got me excited lol I had to use Venom in this match-up :up: :venom:
Toby_Temple
06-28-2006, 05:28 AM
Scarlet Spider. He practically knows Venom's weakness.
Red X
06-28-2006, 05:35 AM
That is a terrible Venom picture.
But I'll go with Scarlet Spider.
Sparta*
06-28-2006, 06:07 AM
That is a terrible Venom picture.
Really?! I think it's sweet
Nathan
06-28-2006, 06:18 AM
Well, Ben did manage to beat him once. But Venom is also one though mofo.
I'm going with Ben.
XFanTim
06-28-2006, 06:46 AM
Hmm . . . it could go either way, but I'll give it to the Scarlet Spider. Brains over brawn.
Sparta*
06-28-2006, 06:49 AM
The winner of this match-up is the first person to subdue the other...there won't be any sound or fire to allow a cheap win. Let's just say they're fighting in a big empty coliseum.
bcd90
06-28-2006, 11:08 AM
Venom
K4tzm4n
06-28-2006, 11:08 AM
Venom then
Nathan
06-28-2006, 11:11 AM
Venom then?
Ben did manage to beat him without the use of fire and sound already.
Colossal Spoons
06-28-2006, 11:19 AM
Hm, I never knew fire was a weakness for symbiotes.
Nathan
06-28-2006, 11:25 AM
Well, Symbiotes are just gooey, parasitic, living organisms. Don't see why they would be fire resistend.
Iceman/Psylocke
06-28-2006, 11:26 AM
The winner of this match-up is the first person to subdue the other...there won't be any sound or fire to allow a cheap win. Let's just say they're fighting in a big empty coliseum.In that case, definitely Venom.
Colossal Spoons
06-28-2006, 11:28 AM
Well, Symbiotes are just gooey, parasitic, living organisms. Don't see why they would be fire resistend.
Well yeah, but is fire more of a threat than like electricity? I know sound drives them nuts, but I thought that was it.
LongDong
06-28-2006, 11:32 AM
Venom
KevanG
06-28-2006, 12:05 PM
If theres no way for a cheap easy win (like how it usually happens) then Venom would be the winner.
Iceman/Psylocke
06-28-2006, 12:09 PM
Well yeah, but is fire more of a threat than like electricity? I know sound drives them nuts, but I thought thAT WAS IT.I think it's heat (as well as sound) that the symbiote is vulnerable to.
Silver Sable
06-28-2006, 12:32 PM
Eddie
Nathan
06-28-2006, 12:35 PM
Oh come on, why don't more of you give Ben a chance? After all he has a working spider-sense, tranq darts and impact webbing. And not to forget, he already whooped Venom's ass.
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This I.........
06-28-2006, 12:56 PM
Venom
spiderman 3!!! looks tightt unlike crappy o superman<~~still gonna see it got a free ticket with superman volume 3 o yeah:supes:
Genesis 1.0
06-28-2006, 01:10 PM
Without any of the cheap devices, then I go for Venom. As to Ben beating Venom once, alot of people beat down guys once, doesn't mean they'll have a repeat performance. Hell, Abomination used to pimp slapm the Hulk but on tries 2-2,000,000 he had his ass handed to him. Venom's got everything working in his favor, as to the intelligence, he's outsmarted Spider-Man before. It's not Reed Richard's thinking, it's brutal animalistic cunning.
Venom
btw. Chyeah Gambit beats down Archangel.
Hellstormer
06-28-2006, 01:10 PM
Scarlet Spidey
3dman27
06-28-2006, 01:29 PM
SCARLET SPIDER
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/ScarletSpider.jpg
scar
Bastila
06-28-2006, 01:58 PM
Venom
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Venom4.jpg
Venom for sure!
Vanguard07
06-28-2006, 02:13 PM
Scarlet Spider. Brains over brawn. Plus fancy toys ie stingers and such.
LongDong
06-28-2006, 02:20 PM
Man this is tough, I don't want to vote Spider because he has a supe rlame costume, yet I do not want to vote Venom because he has mullet.
What to do what to do.
I think Venom would beat him majority of the time so I will cast my vote for him.
Sparta*
06-28-2006, 03:22 PM
Hm, I never knew fire was a weakness for symbiotes.
Is there anything Marvel cards can't solve? :p According to these, Sonics and Fire are the symbiotes 2 main vulnerabilities.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/VenomCollage.jpg
theoneandonly
06-28-2006, 03:23 PM
ii have themm
theoneandonly
06-28-2006, 03:24 PM
venom btw
Sparta*
06-28-2006, 03:28 PM
13 - 7 for Venom so far...
Warhammer
06-28-2006, 03:53 PM
The winner of this match-up is the first person to subdue the other...there won't be any sound or fire to allow a cheap win. Let's just say they're fighting in a big empty coliseum.
Venom, of course.
1987olds442
06-28-2006, 04:18 PM
Scarlet Spider
Kmack
06-28-2006, 05:36 PM
Venom
Colossal Spoons
06-28-2006, 06:08 PM
Is there anything Marvel cards can't solve? :p
Yeah, strength level debates :( We've all been there.
Slim31
06-28-2006, 06:15 PM
Scarlet Spider
Silicon Surfer
06-28-2006, 08:45 PM
Venom
wiegeabo
06-28-2006, 09:21 PM
Scarlet Spider
Sparta*
06-28-2006, 10:21 PM
I'll vote for Scarlet Spider bringing the current tally to 16 - 11 for Venom...
JeanGrey[GR]
06-29-2006, 01:12 AM
my vote goes to Venom!
Damascus013
06-29-2006, 02:05 AM
Venom may have already won the vote but ben can and did beat his a$$! I'd still go for the scarlet spider!
Vanguard07
06-29-2006, 02:28 AM
True. And he didnt even use either of Venom's weaknesses.
Also i disagree with putting this in a big empty collesseum. That gives Venom a clear advantage since it would give Scarlet nothing to swing from and nothing to weaponize or macguyver (and yes macguyver's a verb goddamnit) Which are two major aspects of his character.
You decided to put it in a place where that cant happen just cause you want to eliminate two of Venom's weaknesses which is extremely unfair. It's like if you eliminated two of Scarlet's weaknesses and said that for the duration of this fight he's invulnerable and doesnt need to breathe.
Quit playing favorites.
Sparta*
06-29-2006, 02:35 AM
True. And he didnt even use either of Venom's weaknesses.
Also i disagree with putting this in a big empty collesseum. That gives Venom a clear advantage since it would give Scarlet nothing to swing from and nothing to weaponize or macguyver (and yes macguyver's a verb goddamnit) Which are two major aspects of his character.
You decided to put it in a place where that cant happen just cause you want to eliminate two of Venom's weaknesses which is extremely unfair. It's like if you eliminated two of Scarlet's weaknesses and said that for the duration of this fight he's invulnerable and doesnt need to breathe.
Quit playing favorites.
If I didn't do that, it would have been a landslide for Scarlet Spider...please don't tell me how to run my tourney :up: All I did was put them in an arena where people couldn't use the "Scarlet Spider is smart...he'd find fire or sound to win" Arguement because THAT is unfair. The way I had it was straight up skill vs skill...did you not see the scans that were posted of Scarlet Spider beating Venom without exploiting his two weaknesses? And last time I checked, Venom is hindered by not being able to web swing just as much as Scarlet Spider.
Playing favorites? Did you see who I voted for.......?
17 - 12 is the final tally for Venom. Next match-up in a bit...
Toby_Temple
06-29-2006, 02:35 AM
Yeah. Put them both in the New York city! :p
Artistsean
06-29-2006, 02:43 AM
Venom, definatly Venom!
Although, technicaly isn't Scarlet Spider Spider-Man's clone? Spider-Man has no problem beating Venom usually.
Still Venom.
Artistsean
06-29-2006, 02:44 AM
How about Super Adaptiod versus Awesome Android
or Goliath versus Giant Man?
Or maybe because of the Superman movie, Sentry versus Gladiator?
Sparta*
06-29-2006, 02:52 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg
R O G U E
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Rogue2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp
S T O R M
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Storm2.jpg
Sparta*
06-29-2006, 02:54 AM
How about Super Adaptiod versus Awesome Android
or Goliath versus Giant Man?
Or maybe because of the Superman movie, Sentry versus Gladiator?
Who the hell is Awesome Android? lol :p
Goliath and Giant-man are the same
Sentry vs Gladiator i'll consider :up: :D
Artistsean
06-29-2006, 02:58 AM
Didn't Hawkeye use Giant Man's power to be giant during Kree War, I think it was, and called himself Goliath? Also there was a character called Black Goliath who used to be Hank's lab assistant or something, he I think is now called Goliath.
Awesome Android is that giant gray guy with a square head, he now works in She-Hulk's law firm and goes by the name Awesome Andy now.
Oh, and I pick Rogue over Storm.
If it was an all out battle to the death, which I assume these battles are without knowing the cause of the fight, Rogue would drain her of her powers and maybe even her life.
Then again Storm might be able to hit her with lighting before she could do that, but Rogue also has Miss Marvel's powers.
Sparta*
06-29-2006, 02:59 AM
Just to clarify, this is Rogue with Ms. Marvel's power :up:
Vanguard07
06-29-2006, 03:02 AM
Hmm... Storm.
wait!....
No yeah Storm. the weather can have some really nasty tricks.
Also I didnt mean to offend with my previous comment. I just didnt agree with your reasons for putting them in a big open empty area seeing as how is does significantly favor one of the combatants.
saying it was so they'd fight skill for skill doesnt make much sense. The way you set it up was more power against power when everyone knows that Venom is more powerful.
To me it's like having a fight with Wolverine and saying you didnt want to see the corny "use claws tactic" or punisher but no "cheap using weapons nonsense". Your decision was specifically to give Venom a handicap.
The fact that it was a close match anyway doesnt change your reasons for having done it. The ends dont justify the means.
And just so you know I honestly think you're doing a wonderful job with this thread. It's easilly one of my favorites. I just wanted to share my opinion on that particular match, which, as i understand it is kinda the point.
Sparta*
06-29-2006, 03:06 AM
Hmm... Storm.
wait!....
No yeah Storm. the weather can have some really nasty tricks.
Also I didnt mean to offend with my previous comment. I just didnt agree with your reasons for putting them in a big open empty area seeing as how is does significantly favor one of the combatants.
saying it was so they'd fight skill for skill doesnt make much sense. The way you set it up was more power against power when everyone knows that Venom is more powerful.
To me it's like having a fight with Wolverine and saying you didnt want to see the corny "use claws tactic" or punisher but no "cheap using weapons nonsense". Your decision was specifically to give Venom a handicap.
The fact that it was a close match anyway doesnt change your reasons for having done it. The ends dont justify the means.
And just so you know I honestly think you're doing a wonderful job with this thread. It's easilly one of my favorites. I just wanted to share my opinion on that particular match, which, as i understand it is kinda the point.
I said Coliseum without even thinking that it doesn't have a roof lol I never wanted that at all, I meant a big arena...with a roof lol but I guess Coliseum's don't have a roof so that was my bad for using misleading wording lol :o At least now you guys know why I don't usually choose a location for the fights :p
Glad to see you're enjoying the thread Vanguard :cool:
Silicon Surfer
06-29-2006, 04:10 AM
Rogue because of her flight speed and superhuman reflexes.
Toby_Temple
06-29-2006, 06:02 AM
Storm. She just have too many array of attacking powers at her disposal, even lightning.
Ahura Mazda
06-29-2006, 06:24 AM
Well as I see it as soon as Rogue touches Storm the figt is over so the question is whether she ould be able to. Rogue is not with limitless strength so Storm should be able to summon powerful enough weather to prevent Rogue approaching her and by also destrying her.
K4tzm4n
06-29-2006, 06:37 AM
Storm
warren_sparta27
06-29-2006, 06:54 AM
Rogue
1987olds442
06-29-2006, 07:00 AM
Rogue
Toby_Temple
06-29-2006, 07:50 AM
Spartaaa! Making them explain again why they vote for *character name* ! PLEEEEAAAASSE!!!
3dman27
06-29-2006, 08:27 AM
the southern belle
XFanTim
06-29-2006, 11:43 AM
I give this to Storm. Rogue can only take her out if she can get close to her, whereas Storm can hit her from a distance. I know Rogue has enhanced durability, but it's never seemed to be as much as, say, Colossus. Sooner or later she'll go down to Storm's barrage of lightning bolts, hurricane force winds, etc.
Plus, Storm could always cover the area with fog. If Rogue can't find her, there's no way she can hit or drain her. Whereas Storm could sense Rogue's movements from the air she displaces, and just blast her with lightning all day long.
Hellstormer
06-29-2006, 12:05 PM
Rogue
Harlekin
06-29-2006, 12:14 PM
Rogue can weather a lot (get it, clever, huh?) so it's why I'm voting for her. She's got a speed and strength advantage which should really help her out. From there on it's a touch and it's over.
Bastila
06-29-2006, 02:11 PM
Rogue.
Sparta*
06-29-2006, 02:53 PM
Spartaaa! Making them explain again why they vote for *character name* ! PLEEEEAAAASSE!!!
haha I liked the explanation rule as well, but it scared off a lot of people lol
8 - 5 for Rogue so far...
Iceman/Psylocke
06-29-2006, 03:03 PM
I don't know :(
I keep changing my mind on this one. Storm would be able to keep Rogue at bay but Rogue would keep coming back for more. By the time I make a choice, this game will be over. :(
Hey Sparta, I think I'm going to put in a bid for your card collection :O
Apprentice
06-29-2006, 03:08 PM
I choose Storm; she's got too many long-range attacks at her disposal. She can hit Rogue before Rogue can hit her.
Sparta*
06-29-2006, 03:17 PM
I don't know :(
I keep changing my mind on this one. Storm would be able to keep Rogue at bay but Rogue would keep coming back for more. By the time I make a choice, this game will be over. :(
Hey Sparta, I think I'm going to put in a bid for your card collection :O
I've been collecting them since I was about 6, and I haven't stopped lol I'm 20 now and i'm still adding to the collection. I don't think I could ever part with my card collection...its practically grown up with me lol lame as that sounds :p
Genesis 1.0
06-29-2006, 05:47 PM
Spartaaa! Making them explain again why they vote for *character name* ! PLEEEEAAAASSE!!!
I said the EXACT same thing a few pages back. Let the lazy bastards fall to the wayside, it'll increase the intelligence level around here.
In any case, Rogue definitely has the deuce in Durability, Strength, and Speed, but she's limited. Rogue is the epitome of basic, she's a bruiser, it's what she does. She uses her Speed to get to you, beat the crap outta ya and if that fails, she'll drain you, NOT a very creative woman.
On the other hand, Storm has the definite Ace in Power, Versatility, and Agility. She's got the very atmosphere at her command and that can be twisted into so many avenues it's not even funny. In adiditon, both have flight but Storm literally rides the wind, she has and will avoid other flyers, which means if Rouge does get close enough, she'll be avoiding contact.
So the question is, 'Can Rogue get close enough to do the damage?" I say no. Storm can summon a tornado and suck the air from her lungs, she can create hurricane force winds to keep her at bay and then call down a rain of lightning bolts. She can cook up a blizzard and like anything that flies, she'll become much slower, the weight of ice and the elements dragging her down even if she manages to stay in the air. Torrential rain and deep fog are also defensive measures and all this time, all it takes is Rogue making the slightest mistake, she stops for a few seconds too long and she gets cooked with a bolt. In additon, it's quite safe to say that Storm is more intelligent than Rogue has ever been shown to be. Rogue's limited aresenal dosen't add up to Storm who has so many ways of winning this one.
Storm
theoneandonly
06-29-2006, 06:13 PM
storm
LongDong
06-29-2006, 07:36 PM
I vote Rogue, her speed is much faster than Storm's. I think she gets in close before Storm could summon anything to hit her with, and even if she did it would take getting hit many times for Rogue to feel it. One punch from Rogue and Storm is done.
Rogue wins this fairly quickly.
vindrow
06-29-2006, 08:14 PM
Storm.....she has way too many weapons at her disposal...I don't see Rogue getting near Storm in this fight.
Silicon Surfer
06-29-2006, 08:33 PM
Rogue has far greater speed and manueverability in the air than Storm who has to have the wind push her around. Rogue can fly faster than the speed of sound and could easily defy any wind that Storm could summon. Lightning might stop her but since Rogue has superhuman reflexes that is improbable. She even on rare occasions manifested Ms. Marvels seventh sense.
Damascus013
06-29-2006, 10:03 PM
Remember storm was once chosen by charlie to lead the Xdudes because she can make quick choices and she's a very good strategist and can think on the fly, plus she has mastered all her powers so she pretty much knows what to do when they both get into it which makes it really hard for rogue to land a pretty good hit. And rogue often tends to go for the hit first think later tactic.
So i go with storm on this.
(a note: to get a pretty good idea how they would fight, read the comic books they're in. Imagine and try thinking like the heroes/villains, how they fight and how they use their powers, you'll get a good idea who would win. They won't be just using their most poweful arsenal at once, some think first on how to approach the fight.)
Toby_Temple
06-29-2006, 10:25 PM
I said the EXACT same thing a few pages back. Let the lazy bastards fall to the wayside, it'll increase the intelligence level around here.
In any case, Rogue definitely has the deuce in Durability, Strength, and Speed, but she's limited. Rogue is the epitome of basic, she's a bruiser, it's what she does. She uses her Speed to get to you, beat the crap outta ya and if that fails, she'll drain you, NOT a very creative woman.
On the other hand, Storm has the definite Ace in Power, Versatility, and Agility. She's got the very atmosphere at her command and that can be twisted into so many avenues it's not even funny. In adiditon, both have flight but Storm literally rides the wind, she has and will avoid other flyers, which means if Rouge does get close enough, she'll be avoiding contact.
So the question is, 'Can Rogue get close enough to do the damage?" I say no. Storm can summon a tornado and suck the air from her lungs, she can create hurricane force winds to keep her at bay and then call down a rain of lightning bolts. She can cook up a blizzard and like anything that flies, she'll become much slower, the weight of ice and the elements dragging her down even if she manages to stay in the air. Torrential rain and deep fog are also defensive measures and all this time, all it takes is Rogue making the slightest mistake, she stops for a few seconds too long and she gets cooked with a bolt. In additon, it's quite safe to say that Storm is more intelligent than Rogue has ever been shown to be. Rogue's limited aresenal dosen't add up to Storm who has so many ways of winning this one.
Storm
Thank you for elaborating.:up:
Iceman/Psylocke
06-29-2006, 10:30 PM
I've been collecting them since I was about 6, and I haven't stopped lol I'm 20 now and i'm still adding to the collection. I don't think I could ever part with my card collection...its practically grown up with me lol lame as that sounds I hear ya. I could never part with any of my X-Men comics, even though some of them are worth a fair bit now.
I'm wavering towards Storm here (some nice arguments for both in the posts above) on the basis of battle strategy under pressure but trying to figure out what would constitute a victory against someone with invulnerability. What normally counts as a victory in these tournaments - rendering opponent unconscious / submission hold ;) / death etc
U.S War Machine
06-29-2006, 10:33 PM
Rogue no doubt
JTStarkiller
06-29-2006, 10:34 PM
I'll vote for Rogue as well.
Silver Sable
06-29-2006, 10:41 PM
Rogue
Toby_Temple
06-29-2006, 10:44 PM
If Rogue is as strong and as tough as Wonderman, I would have voted for her.
But no, she is not. Hurricane force winds, if its against her way, would definitely slow her down while a tornado will send her off course. Add a terrible blizzard and hailstorm then she would definitely be at bay then Storm would finish her off with a full force lightning barrage.
Kmack
06-30-2006, 12:21 AM
Well as I see it as soon as Rogue touches Storm the figt is over so the question is whether she ould be able to. Rogue is not with limitless strength so Storm should be able to summon powerful enough weather to prevent Rogue approaching her and by also destrying her.
Not necessarily, even if Rogue was able to get close enough to touch Storm she wouldn't be able to handle the package that comes with it. Storm has spent years upon years learning how to control her elemental abilites, and if a raw force, like Rogue, acquired such emense power with little to no training over such a powerful force, she might just ware herself out without Ororo having to lift a single finger:o
My vote goes to Storm btw. I mean come on, she kicked Wonder Woman's @ss for crying out loud!:p
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