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Sparta*
05-21-2005, 01:34 PM
I agree with Corp......the entire X-men team could barely take on Nimrod.....and he is virtually indestructible....but I think Beta Ray would find a way to win so he gets my vote.

KAD
05-21-2005, 01:38 PM
Beta Ray Bill though I agree it wouldn't be easy

TheCorpulent1
05-21-2005, 01:58 PM
I figured the fact that Bill's powers are magical in nature would help. Machine characters tend to have trouble adapting to or copying magical powers, since they're not really rooted in the laws of reality.

Lethal Venom
05-21-2005, 02:51 PM
Beta Ray Bill

Jecht
05-21-2005, 03:38 PM
i'll go for Nimrod, he is almost indestructible

Silver Sable
05-21-2005, 10:51 PM
Beta Ray Bill

rodhulk
05-22-2005, 12:18 AM
Beta Ray Bill.

SonnyBlack
05-22-2005, 02:50 AM
Depends on the rules but i'll have to go with nimrod. If beta doesn't destroy nimrod quick i think nimrod will adjust. Nimrod can take some damage teleport away fix himself adjust his fighting and if he has 2 do it agian he will only become stronger and more able to destroy beta.

3dman27
05-22-2005, 04:41 AM
brb

Jecht
05-22-2005, 07:55 PM
theres really no way brb can destroy nimrod

PaleRider
05-22-2005, 09:34 PM
I'd easily say theres no way for Nimrod to destroy BRB, in Betas nost recent mini his done some incredible stuff. Acually denting Galactuss armor, fighting a very powerful herald of Gal. to a stand still, theres more but on those 2 things alone I'd say his very much capable of beating a Nimrod.

Jecht
05-22-2005, 10:35 PM
well, it really doesnt matter how powerful he is becuse Nimrod is virtually undefeatable, i mean if u destroy him into pieces he will just reconstruct himself.

PaleRider
05-22-2005, 10:50 PM
well, it really doesnt matter how powerful he is becuse Nimrod is virtually undefeatable, i mean if u destroy him into pieces he will just reconstruct himself.
I didn't think these fights were multiple round fights, in that case anyone could win any fight if they have time to recover and go back after the person. I look at them like throw these 2 charcters somewhere and let them go at it, and in that case BRB would smash Nimrod. Yes Nimrod would rebuild but that means it's a different fight.

Jecht
05-22-2005, 10:53 PM
no, he would actually rebuild himself even before he dies

Midnight Ice
05-23-2005, 12:24 AM
brb :xmen:

Sparta*
05-23-2005, 12:53 AM
hmmmm this battle is generating some good discussion so i'll let it go on a while longer...

TheCorpulent1
05-23-2005, 02:21 AM
Beta Ray Bill's capable of everything Thor is, and if anti-matter can destroy Mangog, I think it'd stand a good chance of destroying Nimrod.

PaleRider
05-23-2005, 03:21 AM
Beta Ray Bill's capable of everything Thor is, and if anti-matter can destroy Mangog, I think it'd stand a good chance of destroying Nimrod.
that and I really don't think (unless theres something about Nimrod I really don't know) theres a way he could keep BRB down.

Lady Stormcrow
05-23-2005, 12:16 PM
Beta Ray Bill

KAD
05-23-2005, 12:28 PM
Nimrod can't come back from disintegration

Sparta*
05-23-2005, 03:58 PM
Alright, final tally is 11-2 for Beta Ray Bill!!

Next battle comin' up...

Sparta*
05-23-2005, 04:01 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/logo.jpg

SHRIEK
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/shriek.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/VS2.bmp

SPIDER-WOMAN
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/spiderwoman.jpg

3dman27
05-23-2005, 04:31 PM
spi

Jecht
05-23-2005, 04:39 PM
shriek would kick spider-womans a$$

Sparta*
05-23-2005, 04:50 PM
Yea, I'm gonna go with Shriek

rodhulk
05-23-2005, 04:54 PM
Shriek.

Jecht
05-23-2005, 04:59 PM
i have no idea how spider-woman would win. her strength wouldnt matter

Sparta*
05-23-2005, 05:04 PM
she'd put up a good fight, but she would lose.

Jecht
05-23-2005, 05:07 PM
yeah, i agree

Sparta*
05-23-2005, 05:13 PM
Yea, Shriek did a pretty good number on spiderman, if my memory serves me right, so Spider-woman would get owned.

kamesan
05-23-2005, 05:20 PM
B-cuz i'm not familiar w/ shriek, I'm gonna stick to my guns and say Spider-woman. :spidey:

TheCorpulent1
05-23-2005, 05:25 PM
Wasn't Shriek backed up by Carnage's motley crew when she stuck it to Spidey though?

Sparta*
05-23-2005, 05:31 PM
Yeah they were there, but Spiderman also had some help didn't he?

Jecht
05-23-2005, 05:32 PM
B-cuz i'm not familiar w/ shriek, I'm gonna stick to my guns and say Spider-woman. :spidey:
heres a biography (http://www.samruby.com/Villains/Shriek/shriek.htm)

Spideywebs
05-23-2005, 05:53 PM
I say Shreik would beat that Spider-woman

tristapussy
05-23-2005, 06:05 PM
SHRIEK!!!!

Jecht
05-23-2005, 06:20 PM
i agree

TheCorpulent1
05-23-2005, 06:52 PM
Yeah they were there, but Spiderman also had some help didn't he?
I don't remember. Maximum Carnage is kind of a blur to me now.

PaleRider
05-23-2005, 10:12 PM
Shreik

Jecht
05-23-2005, 10:46 PM
i thnk no one would vote for spider-woman, LOL

Silver Sable
05-23-2005, 10:51 PM
Shriek

Midnight Ice
05-24-2005, 04:42 AM
shriek :xmen:

KAD
05-24-2005, 06:26 AM
I'm gonna go with SW she has other powers beyond strength.

Psi Webs should work well against shreik.

keep in mind she was an Avenger.

DarkHellRider
05-24-2005, 08:18 AM
yea i am going with spider women

Jecht
05-24-2005, 06:26 PM
um... have any of u read this (http://www.samruby.com/Villains/Shriek/shriek.htm)? SHe can drive Spider-woman insane for God's sake:mad:

KAD
05-25-2005, 07:36 AM
um... have any of u read this (http://www.samruby.com/Villains/Shriek/shriek.htm)? SHe can drive Spider-woman insane for God's sake:mad:


I would imagine it is based on will power so if SW could out will her it's negated.

Beyond that as stated earlier SW has Psi powers of her own

Sparta*
05-25-2005, 12:46 PM
6-4 for Shriek!!

Next battle comin' up!!

Sparta*
05-25-2005, 12:59 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/logo.jpg

QUICKSILVER
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/quicksilver12.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/VS2.bmp

CANNONBALL
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/cannonball1q.jpg

KAD
05-25-2005, 01:19 PM
Quick Silver.

In the future Cannonball

Right now he is too inexperienced

Lady Stormcrow
05-25-2005, 01:58 PM
Quicksilver.

PaleRider
05-25-2005, 02:20 PM
This was a tough choice, I'll say Quicksilver.

Lethal Venom
05-25-2005, 02:27 PM
Quicksilver

3dman27
05-25-2005, 04:40 PM
peitro

Sparta*
05-25-2005, 06:18 PM
Quicksilver is leading 5 - 0. I didn't expect so many people to vote against Cannonball...but I have to agree, I also think Quicksilver would win, though it would be one hell of a fight....a really really.....akward.....fight hahah

Jecht
05-25-2005, 06:38 PM
this isreally a great fight, Sparta, good job. But i have to disagree with everyone so far, my vote goes for Cannoball. Even though i like Magneto and his children i dont think Quicksilver will stand a chance.

Spideywebs
05-25-2005, 06:41 PM
Cannonball

vindrow
05-25-2005, 06:47 PM
I'll have to go with Cannonball here, I like Quicksilver but with Sam flying making him invulnerable..quicky would have to catch him while he is not flying and Sam can get in one good hit quicky is done.

TheCorpulent1
05-25-2005, 06:47 PM
Whoa, what? I don't see how Quicksilver could really win here. My vote's for Cannonball.

Jecht
05-25-2005, 06:54 PM
finally people agree with me! thanx,corpulent, vindrow,and spideywebs.

Sparta*
05-25-2005, 06:56 PM
Cannonball would have to hit Quicksilver though....thats the clincher.

Jecht
05-25-2005, 06:58 PM
hes a human cannonball though

Sparta*
05-25-2005, 07:02 PM
haha yeah... I dunno...this is a strange match-up. I don't think anyone can really choose a clear winner....it could go either way....just depending on who connects the hit with who.

marvelisawesome
05-25-2005, 07:04 PM
Cannonball!

Sparta*
05-25-2005, 07:05 PM
6-5 for Quicksilver......man the tables turned on this fight really quickly

marvelisawesome
05-25-2005, 07:07 PM
HAha i know.

Sparta*
05-25-2005, 07:11 PM
Quicksilver is still in the lead though...

Jecht
05-25-2005, 07:18 PM
this is a really good fight

brainchild81
05-25-2005, 07:44 PM
Cannonball. Can't he use that "send your attack back" thing he used on Gladiator? I've also seen him generate force fields by sending his blast field outward instead of downward

Jecht
05-25-2005, 08:31 PM
exactly

TheCorpulent1
05-25-2005, 10:18 PM
Cannonball's probably almost as fast as Quicksilver when he's flying, so I doubt it'd be hard to hit him. Plus he's got his blast field, so I think the real question would be whether Quicksilver could hit Cannonball and make it count at all. Plus, as others have mentioned, Cannonball learned how to manipulate his blast field better, so he can point it in other directions and stuff like that. If this were the Flash instead of Quicksilver, I could see the argument, but Quicksilver's always been kind of a second-rate speedster.

Silver Sable
05-25-2005, 11:07 PM
Cannonball

vindrow
05-26-2005, 01:07 AM
Cannonball. Can't he use that "send your attack back" thing he used on Gladiator? I've also seen him generate force fields by sending his blast field outward instead of downward


Good point, i had forgot about Sam using his powers in other ways than the usual.

One point about Quicky...I haven't been keeping up with him lately, but didn't he get a power boost recently?

TheCorpulent1
05-26-2005, 01:24 AM
Not recently, it was way back in his post-Onslaught series. The High Evolutionary's Isotope E gave him a vaguely defined boost. They never clarified just how much faster he'd become or anything.

Midnight Ice
05-26-2005, 04:51 AM
Cannonball, or as Deapool would say, Cannonballs. Come on, he went toe to toe against Gladiator. :xmen:

KAD
05-26-2005, 07:33 AM
From what I understand he can run at several times the speed of sound.

Beyond that he not only moves fast but thinks equally fast.

Add to this training by Magneto, Prof X, Captain America. and it becomes obvious that QS would win.

As I originally said Sam would probably win in the future but it wouldn't be a sure thing.

In all probability if Sam expanded his blast feild QS could move with it just as fast and not suffer the effects of the impact

ang_hulk
05-26-2005, 07:55 AM
sorry i dont know how to post pics but My match up

iron man vs cyborg with the armor seen on the future cyborg,iron mans armor with no extras,just the basics.

KAD
05-26-2005, 08:55 AM
sorry i dont know how to post pics but My match up

iron man vs cyborg with the armor seen on the future cyborg,iron mans armor with no extras,just the basics.


ang_hulk Welcme.

This is Sparta's thread and only he sets matches.

You can suggest matches to Sparta and vote.

Oh almost forgot, you can express why you voted as well.

Sparta*
05-26-2005, 01:28 PM
That was a really good match-up.....but after an arduous fight, Cannonball took the lead by 2 votes. The final tally was 8-6 for Cannonball!!

Next Match-up comin' up...

Sparta*
05-26-2005, 01:44 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/logo.jpg

BLACK TOM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/blacktom.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/VS2.bmp

MARROW
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/marrow.jpg

Sparta*
05-26-2005, 01:45 PM
I'm going to go with Black Tom

PaleRider
05-26-2005, 01:51 PM
yeah Black Tom.

Lethal Venom
05-26-2005, 02:13 PM
Black Tom

KAD
05-26-2005, 02:51 PM
tom

Phaedrus45
05-26-2005, 04:45 PM
Black Tom, hands down. It would only take a page or two. One panel if a certain friend of his comes along.

SonnyBlack
05-26-2005, 05:05 PM
Ill go with marrow

Midnight Ice
05-26-2005, 05:23 PM
Black Tom :xmen:

Spideywebs
05-26-2005, 06:36 PM
Thomas

Jecht
05-26-2005, 06:46 PM
this is a tough one but i'll go for Marrow

brainchild81
05-26-2005, 06:48 PM
Unless Tom's got an upgrade I don't know about......MARROW wins. I can see her knocking the wood out of Tom's hands. Fight over.

Jecht
05-26-2005, 07:03 PM
i totaly agree

Sparta*
05-26-2005, 07:06 PM
7-3 for Black Tom Cassidy so far ! ! !

Jecht
05-26-2005, 07:07 PM
come on people, Marrow is almost Impervious to Black Tom's blasts

Sparta*
05-26-2005, 07:14 PM
Why is that Xfan? I don't really know much about Marrow

Jecht
05-26-2005, 07:31 PM
well i kind of exaggerated that but read this:

Known superhuman powers: Marrow is a mutant whose physiology has radically altered from the human norm. She had at one time possessed two hearts; the second continued functioning when the first was removed.
Many of Marrow's bones grow to an abnormally large size and protrude from her skin without causing any physical damage to herself. These bones are normally blade-shaped, and Marrow is proficient at using these blades as throwing weapons or in hand to hand combat. Once Marrow has removed any of these bones new bones grow in their place at an unspecified rapid rate. Marrow's entire skeleton has enhanced durability, giving her some degree of physical protection against concussive impact.

It says she has some degree of protection from concussive impact and thats Black Toms power but he seems more powerful than that so i dont know its my own opinion.

vindrow
05-26-2005, 07:46 PM
While its true that Marrow's bones provide some protection against concussive blasts, Black Ton can also generate heat blasts that can melt steel, so her bones wont provide any protection against that....so my vote goes to Black Tom.

rodhulk
05-26-2005, 09:30 PM
Black Tom.

Zoken
05-26-2005, 09:51 PM
Black Tom, no question.

Silver Sable
05-26-2005, 10:54 PM
Marrow

3dman27
05-27-2005, 04:43 AM
marrow

KAD
05-27-2005, 06:51 AM
Unless Tom's got an upgrade I don't know about......MARROW wins. I can see her knocking the wood out of Tom's hands. Fight over.

Actually Tom is now completely made of wood and can transfer his conciosness to other plants and control them.

He almost single handedly beat the current roster of X-men

PaleRider
05-27-2005, 02:39 PM
Actually Tom is now completely made of wood and can transfer his conciosness to other plants and control them.

He almost single handedly beat the current roster of X-men

thats why I voted Tom, last time we saw him with the new brotherhood he was a very serios threat. I'd say they only version of Tom she could beat would be the orginal BT, anything after he got that wood implanted in him is no contest.

Sparta*
05-27-2005, 03:02 PM
The final tally for this battle is 10 - 5 for Black Tom Cassidy!!!

Remember everyone...if there is a battle that you are just itchin' to see, don't be afraid to ask, or PM me. I don't bite...unless you want me to ;)

Next battle comin' up!

Sparta*
05-27-2005, 03:06 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/logo.jpg

SASQUATCH
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/sasquatch.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/VS2.bmp

ABOMINATION
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/abomination.jpg

Sparta*
05-27-2005, 03:12 PM
I gotta go for Abomination here, I mean, the guy took on the Hulk, all out, and lived to tell about it...what more evidence do I need??

Lethal Venom
05-27-2005, 04:38 PM
Abomination

TheCorpulent1
05-27-2005, 04:57 PM
I'd go with the Abomination because I'm fairly sure he's got a better healing factor than Sasquatch.

PaleRider
05-27-2005, 05:00 PM
Yeah I think this would be messy, Abmination.

Spideywebs
05-27-2005, 06:14 PM
Abdomination

Jecht
05-27-2005, 06:44 PM
abomination

rodhulk
05-27-2005, 10:05 PM
No question about it. The Abomination.

Th'Dude
05-27-2005, 10:08 PM
The Abomination, he would be able to open a wig store after he's done with Sasquatch.

Silver Sable
05-27-2005, 10:10 PM
Abomination

SonnyBlack
05-28-2005, 03:21 AM
Abomination

3dman27
05-28-2005, 04:22 AM
sasquatch

GearShock
05-28-2005, 04:26 AM
abomination

KAD
05-28-2005, 07:58 AM
Sasquatch,

In refrence to healing.

Sasquatch isn't just another big hairy monster, he is the great beast taranaq.

This puts him way above the abomination when it comes to healing and regeneration.

By the way Sasquatch has gone full out with the Hulk as well

Sparta*
05-28-2005, 02:00 PM
11-2 for The Abomination!!!

Next battle comin' up!

Sparta*
05-28-2005, 02:04 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/logo.jpg

SIRYN
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/siryn.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/VS2.bmp

WOLFSBANE
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/wolfsbane.jpg

Sparta*
05-28-2005, 02:07 PM
Siryn has the advantage of being able to strike from a distance, but I think if Wolfsbane actually managed to bring it to hand to hand fighting, she would kick Siryn's ass. I do like Siryn, but I think Wolfsbane is the way better fighter so she gets my vote.

ShadowBoxing
05-28-2005, 02:52 PM
Siryn can fly, also Wolfsbane like a wolf has hyper sensitive hearing. This means Siryn, who already does damage to normal humans, would do much more damage to Wolfsbane's hearing, and could probably render her unconscious fairly quickly

Sparta*
05-28-2005, 02:57 PM
Thats a good point Shadowboxing...I definatley think if it came down to mutant powers vs mutant powers Siryn would win, but if they got into an all out fist fight, I think Wolfsbane would take it.

TheCorpulent1
05-28-2005, 03:11 PM
I'd go with Siryn too.

Jecht
05-28-2005, 03:34 PM
siryn

Lethal Venom
05-28-2005, 03:48 PM
Siryn

Th'Dude
05-28-2005, 04:28 PM
If you put a pic of Wolfbane's human form you could call it the battle of the red heads.:D
Siryn wins this one, BTW.

brainchild81
05-28-2005, 04:49 PM
Siryn wins.

Zoken
05-28-2005, 05:12 PM
I also Have to say Siryn. her sonic screams can leave a normal skull splitting, but on a person with super sensitive hearing, its not a question. also, even if Rahne manages to get into close quarters, Siryn can still just let loose her power and push Rahne back.

3dman27
05-28-2005, 05:41 PM
Siryni agree

Jecht
05-28-2005, 05:43 PM
theres probably no way wolfsbane can come near her

PaleRider
05-28-2005, 06:32 PM
Yep Siryn, I don't think she'd let wolfsbane get even close to her.

Spideywebs
05-28-2005, 07:13 PM
Siryn

Jecht
05-28-2005, 09:08 PM
did anyone even vote for wolfsbane?

Zoken
05-28-2005, 09:13 PM
one person, but she changed her vote

Jecht
05-28-2005, 09:19 PM
ha ha

Zoken
05-28-2005, 09:22 PM
it was like pairing Shang-Chi off against Galactus. not that SC is a bad heroe, its just that he isn't the type to take on Galactus

Jecht
05-28-2005, 09:28 PM
yeah but Sparta usually posts good battles, weird

Zoken
05-28-2005, 09:31 PM
I still say I wanna see a Runaway or a Livewire in one of these.

U.S War Machine
05-28-2005, 10:36 PM
wolfsbane

Jecht
05-28-2005, 10:38 PM
youre kidding right?

Zoken
05-28-2005, 10:39 PM
he doesn't have to explain his choice, althougth I would enjoy hearing it.

rodhulk
05-28-2005, 11:09 PM
Syrin.

Silver Sable
05-28-2005, 11:20 PM
Siryn

Sparta*
05-29-2005, 02:21 AM
yeah but Sparta usually posts good battles, weird

Hey! Give me a break alright...I had a temporary brain fart, and didn't take Wolfsbane's susper sensitive hearing into account........my bad!

Anyway....at least I'm not the only crazy one who voted for Wolfsbane hahaha the final tally was 12 - 2. Next battle comin' up.....

Sparta*
05-29-2005, 02:25 AM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/logo.jpg

DOMINO
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/dominoaz.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/VS2.bmp

M Y S T I Q U E
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/mystiqueas.jpg

Sparta*
05-29-2005, 02:28 AM
I'm going to go with Mystique...she is very resourceful and cunning.

Zoken
05-29-2005, 02:28 AM
I'm gonna vote for Mystique for two reasons. ONE: long laundry list of experience, and a good amount of ruthlessness. two: I Wuv Mystique

Phaedrus45
05-29-2005, 04:06 AM
Mystique .... Domino has become such a weak character ... just like most of the characters from X-Force. In fact, she seems more of a sidekick. And, when she was at her best, it wasn't even her...it was the gal the changed into her to fool Cable.


BTW, on the previous, I would pick Siryn, too. And, I know we just saw her recently; but, the last storyline I remember about her was when she blew out her voice for the longest time, and I don't ever remember her recovering from that. Was this a dropped storyline, or did I just miss something???

Phaed

SonnyBlack
05-29-2005, 04:09 AM
Mystique!

Spideywebs
05-29-2005, 05:30 AM
Mystique

Lethal Venom
05-29-2005, 05:47 AM
Mystique

mikeyh89
05-29-2005, 10:37 AM
woo hoo! my battle lol!

I will choose.....Domino just to give her at least one. They are both excellent IMO, and I like both of them a lot

Silver Sable
05-29-2005, 12:29 PM
Mystique

PaleRider
05-29-2005, 01:06 PM
Mystique

rigel7soldiers
05-29-2005, 01:21 PM
Mystique, but I credit her win with Shortpack, somehow...

Jecht
05-29-2005, 03:34 PM
Mystique, because she is cunning and Domino was created by Rob Liefeld.

kamesan
05-29-2005, 04:04 PM
Mystique, hands down.

How can you compete w/ a woman who could morph herself into any women you wanted?!?!?!?!?

vindrow
05-29-2005, 05:25 PM
Hmmmm....good one here........I'm gonna go with Domino...since Mystique's morphing abilities will do her no good in this fight, so it comes down to who is the better fighter, armed and unarmed. Domino always carries a variety of weapons with her and is trained in armed and unarmed combat, and mystique doesn't always carry weapons with her and while she is trained in unarmed combat i don't believe it was as extensive as Domino's training...and i believe that Domino is the better fighter between them, plus Domino's power to affect probability, basically giving her good luck and her opponents bad luck will give her the edge.

Jecht
05-29-2005, 05:33 PM
her morphing abilities do count, she could make herself a muscular hand if she wanted 2 so she could wreck Domino's jaw. And wat the hell has Domino done? Mystique is a freakin terrorist! By the way Mystique is a way better fighter than Domino!

But congrats 2 your 150th post.

kamesan
05-29-2005, 05:51 PM
her morphing abilities do count, she could make herself a muscular hand if she wanted 2 so she could wreck Domino's jaw. And wat the hell has Domino done?

http://superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif http://superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif.

rigel7soldiers
05-29-2005, 06:31 PM
Well, mystique can't really change her musculature, but she migh get some degree of added strength with a larger form, due to greater mass, but it would be proportionate, not superhuman, I think. She can turn into the Hulk, but she can't copy his powers. Domino has super-luck powers, which might come in handy in any situation she might encounter. She's fought Deadpool before, so that aughtta count for somethin'...

kamesan
05-29-2005, 06:34 PM
Maybe it should've been Domino vs. Vanessa?:confused:

Zoken
05-29-2005, 07:04 PM
Mystique can change her size, but not her mass, so if she shrinks, it would appear to be enhanced strength because she is throwing the same mass in a smaller volume (physics 101). also, Mystique has displayed the ability to change her skelatal structure (in Mystique Vol. 1, she grows a second face and two extra arms.)

while domino has probility powers, Mystique has extensive experience in working against the odds and succeeding.

rodhulk
05-29-2005, 07:29 PM
Mystique.

vindrow
05-30-2005, 01:57 AM
her morphing abilities do count, she could make herself a muscular hand if she wanted 2 so she could wreck Domino's jaw. And wat the hell has Domino done? Mystique is a freakin terrorist! By the way Mystique is a way better fighter than Domino!

But congrats 2 your 150th post.



For your reading enjoyment:


Mystique, however, is limited by her inability to diminish or increase her own mass at will. As a result, while she can make herself look exactly like a person who is physically bigger than herself, she will not weigh as much as the real person does. Although she can maintain the form of a person of her height, weight, and build indefinitely (as with her own appearance as Raven Darkholme), the longer that she maintains the form of a person physically bigger than herself, the greater the strain she feels. If she maintains that bigger form for too long a period, the length of which is directly proportional to the difference in size between that form and her normal one, she will collapse and automatically revert to her normal form.


She can become physically bigger but she doesn't get any stronger, she stays at the same strength level that she had in her regular form...and it is harder for her to keep a larger form, since she has to concentrate to keep that form, and to be honest IMO I don't think she is a better fighter, here is a little about domino:


Strength level: Athlete

Fighting skills: Extensive training in various armed combat techniques and the martial arts

Special skills and abilities: Superb marksman with various firearms, highly skilled athlete, excellent swimmer, adept in use of explosives

Known superhuman powers: Domino's mutant ability appears to be some kind of psionic control over probability, thus causing her to have "good luck" and her opponents to have "bad luck," but the ability has yet to be fully measured or explained.

Special weaponry: Staff that fires unspecified ammunition, can be used for balance when jumping, is equipped with sensors.



Hehe, but this is all an opinion...everyone has one :)



P.S. Thanks on the thanks for my 150th post :cool:

P.s.s To be honest i have never seen Mystique shrink, at least not to my recollection(could be wrong here, haeven't kept up with her), but even if she has there are other heros out there that do shrink that do give the illusion of greater strength the way you describe, such as Wasp, Antman, etc....(at least I dont think they do) But I do know what you are talking about with same mass in a smaller form, but i don't think it would work with mystique.



I love when a good match gets a good discussion going :)

Midnight Ice
05-30-2005, 02:45 AM
mystique :xmen:

Zoken
05-30-2005, 05:17 AM
Vindrow, on the opposite side of the coin, if she morphs smaller, not only does she have a psycological advantage (awww look at the little kitty), she will also have the advantage of having proportional super strength.(her own strength level in a body that should have it.) Imagine your two year old sister all of a sudden decking you like your twenty year old martial artist brother. same force, but that little fist will do more damage to your jaw.

Ahura Mazda
05-30-2005, 09:29 AM
Mystique because....well I prefer her, Domino would have a chance to take it however

Sparta*
05-30-2005, 12:31 PM
14 - 1 for Mystique! Wow, even Wolfsbane got more votes then Domino...thats pretty rough. Next battle comin' up!

Sparta*
05-30-2005, 12:35 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/logo.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/absorbingmantxt.gif
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/absorbingman.gif

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/VS.bmp

WAR MACHINE
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/warmachine.jpg

rodhulk
05-30-2005, 12:41 PM
Absorbing Man.

Silver Sable
05-30-2005, 12:44 PM
War Machine

Ahura Mazda
05-30-2005, 12:49 PM
I think Absorbing Man easily especially with all his new powers.

Some versions of the absorbing man (earth x) are mind boggling in potential power

Sparta*
05-30-2005, 01:17 PM
Absorbing man for sure. All he would have to do is touch War Machine and he would become unstoppable.

PaleRider
05-30-2005, 01:41 PM
Absorbing Man

rigel7soldiers
05-30-2005, 01:42 PM
Absorbing Man...

TheCorpulent1
05-30-2005, 02:08 PM
Absorbing man for sure. All he would have to do is touch War Machine and he would become unstoppable.
His powers don't really work like that. If he touches War Machine's armor, from what I understand of his powers, he'd just become whatever the armor's made of (I think it was titanium or some titanium mesh alloy or something). He wouldn't spout rocket launchers on his back or anything. The only way he gets the powers is if they're intrinsic to the material, like the magic properties of Thor's uru hammer or the energy manipulating abilities of Quasar's quantum bands.

That said, I'd still go for Absorbing Man.

Sparta*
05-30-2005, 03:03 PM
His powers don't really work like that. If he touches War Machine's armor, from what I understand of his powers, he'd just become whatever the armor's made of (I think it was titanium or some titanium mesh alloy or something). He wouldn't spout rocket launchers on his back or anything. The only way he gets the powers is if they're intrinsic to the material, like the magic properties of Thor's uru hammer or the energy manipulating abilities of Quasar's quantum bands.

That said, I'd still go for Absorbing Man.

I know.....I meant that he would be unstoppable because his body would be made entirely out of metal. I know he wouldn't sprout rocket launchers and stuff.

Phaedrus45
05-30-2005, 03:36 PM
Absorbing Man

Spideywebs
05-30-2005, 04:10 PM
Ab Man

Lethal Venom
05-30-2005, 04:13 PM
Absorbing Man

TheCorpulent1
05-30-2005, 04:15 PM
I know.....I meant that he would be unstoppable because his body would be made entirely out of metal. I know he wouldn't sprout rocket launchers and stuff.
Oh, sorry. :o

Sparta*
05-30-2005, 07:15 PM
No worries Corp, cool avatar btw

9-1 for the Absorbing Man so far.....

Jecht
05-30-2005, 08:52 PM
absorbing man

Midnight Ice
05-30-2005, 09:39 PM
war machine. he could just fly or stay out of reach :xmen:

3dman27
05-31-2005, 04:49 AM
the machine

KAD
05-31-2005, 06:37 AM
absorbingman

SonnyBlack
05-31-2005, 03:16 PM
Absorbing Man

kamesan
05-31-2005, 03:19 PM
Absorbin' Man.(B-cuz he's one of my favorite villains.)

Jecht
05-31-2005, 06:25 PM
hey kamesan why do u always write like that?

3dman27
06-01-2005, 05:12 AM
i was wonderint the same thing ,why green type?

Sparta*
06-01-2005, 12:56 PM
13-3 for Absorbing Man!! Next battle comin' up.....

Sparta*
06-01-2005, 01:00 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/logo.jpg

RED SKULL
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/redskulql.jpg




http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/VS2.bmp


BARON ZEMO
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/baronzemo.jpg

3dman27
06-01-2005, 01:17 PM
skull

Lethal Venom
06-01-2005, 01:51 PM
Red Skull

KAD
06-01-2005, 02:19 PM
Red Skull

Didnt Zemo work for the Skull at one time

spiderxxman
06-01-2005, 02:21 PM
I vote Red Skull.

tristapussy
06-01-2005, 02:52 PM
I vote Red Skull.


Yep...

Sparta*
06-01-2005, 03:02 PM
Baron Zemo for me

PaleRider
06-01-2005, 04:39 PM
yeah I'll go for Red Skull too but it would be cool.

Phaedrus45
06-01-2005, 04:48 PM
Red Skull.


BTW, how many Zemos have there been?

tristapussy
06-01-2005, 05:53 PM
Red Skull.


BTW, how many Zemos have there been?


3...I think...:rolleyes:...sorry about that...

Phaedrus45
06-01-2005, 06:07 PM
I thought there was at least two. The original, who dies, and the son, right? But, for some reason, I thought there might be a third.


Phaed

TheCorpulent1
06-01-2005, 06:11 PM
The original one was around during WWII, and the son, Helmut Zemo, is around now. He led the Thunderbolts for a while. I don't know if there are any more, but those 2 are the ones I've heard about.

I vote for the Red Skull. Zemo's basically a poor man's Red Skull anyway. :p

Spideywebs
06-01-2005, 06:37 PM
Red Skull

Midnight Ice
06-01-2005, 07:03 PM
skull :xmen:

rigel7soldiers
06-01-2005, 07:06 PM
Zemo seems more... formidable to me. I don't know if the Skull has any powers, but I think Zemo, an accomplished fencer, could take him

Sparta*
06-01-2005, 07:12 PM
10-2 for Red Skull so far.....

SonnyBlack
06-01-2005, 08:36 PM
red

rodhulk
06-01-2005, 09:20 PM
red skull.

Silver Sable
06-01-2005, 11:40 PM
Baron Zemo

TheCorpulent1
06-02-2005, 01:12 AM
Zemo seems more... formidable to me. I don't know if the Skull has any powers, but I think Zemo, an accomplished fencer, could take him
Skull's mind is in a clone of Captain America's body and he got martial arts, tactical, and weapons training as Hitler's right-hand man.

Sparta*
06-02-2005, 01:45 PM
12 - 3 for the Red Skull!! (your all a bunch of nazis! :p haha jj)

Next battle comin' up!

Sparta*
06-02-2005, 01:46 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/logo.jpg

DEATHBIRD
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/deathbird.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/VS2.bmp

W A R B I R D
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/warbird.jpg

Sparta*
06-02-2005, 01:49 PM
Deathbird can kick some serious ass, and I've always thought she was awesome, so she gets my vote.

PaleRider
06-02-2005, 02:03 PM
I think I have to go for Warbird.

TheCorpulent1
06-02-2005, 02:04 PM
Warbird's about a thousand times more powerful than Deathbird. Warbird gets my vote.

Sparta*
06-02-2005, 02:08 PM
What! no way.

DEATHBIRD
Powers: Deathbird is an alien who possesses a number of superhuman strengths and abilities. Her metabolism is also superior to human, approximating the difference between human and earthly avian metabolisms, giving her approximately a twenty times greater endurance level than a human being. Frequently able to work herself up to a berserker frenzy, Deathbird's equivalent adrenal system is capable of prolonging her endurance even beyond that of her normal superhuman limits.
Deathbird's wings, which span 18 feet, enable her to fly like a bird in level flight, at a maximum speed through an Earth-type atmosphere of 63 miles per hour. Because of her alien metabolism, she can remain aloft for up to 6 hours before exhausting her body's fatigue poisons elimination ability (an additional 14 hours with a high-energy food supply) and somewhat less if she is carrying a load or exerting herself. She can bear aloft approximately 290 pounds, providing she can grasp the object or person with her feet (her arms, of course, are used to fly). She is capable of flying at any height at which she is still able to breathe. The feathers in the dorsal primary and secondary areas of both wings each have very sharp, spur-like vanes capable of inflicting light lacerations.
Deathbird also possesses talon-like fingernails of extraordinary tensile strength. She can use them to slice through wood, glass, and to score steel.


I know this fight could go either way, and Warbird has more physical strength, but I still think Deathbird woudl put up a hella awesome fight. She is an awesome warrior, and she is ruthless and cunning.

Phaedrus45
06-02-2005, 03:08 PM
Deathbird. Also, one of my favorite characters. Wasn't she an Avenger once? If I'm not dreaming this, she added a lot to the team.


Phaed

TheCorpulent1
06-02-2005, 03:17 PM
What! no way.

DEATHBIRD
Powers: Deathbird is an alien who possesses a number of superhuman strengths and abilities. Her metabolism is also superior to human, approximating the difference between human and earthly avian metabolisms, giving her approximately a twenty times greater endurance level than a human being. Frequently able to work herself up to a berserker frenzy, Deathbird's equivalent adrenal system is capable of prolonging her endurance even beyond that of her normal superhuman limits.
Deathbird's wings, which span 18 feet, enable her to fly like a bird in level flight, at a maximum speed through an Earth-type atmosphere of 63 miles per hour. Because of her alien metabolism, she can remain aloft for up to 6 hours before exhausting her body's fatigue poisons elimination ability (an additional 14 hours with a high-energy food supply) and somewhat less if she is carrying a load or exerting herself. She can bear aloft approximately 290 pounds, providing she can grasp the object or person with her feet (her arms, of course, are used to fly). She is capable of flying at any height at which she is still able to breathe. The feathers in the dorsal primary and secondary areas of both wings each have very sharp, spur-like vanes capable of inflicting light lacerations.
Deathbird also possesses talon-like fingernails of extraordinary tensile strength. She can use them to slice through wood, glass, and to score steel.


I know this fight could go either way, and Warbird has more physical strength, but I still think Deathbird woudl put up a hella awesome fight. She is an awesome warrior, and she is ruthless and cunning.
I know what Deathbird's capable of. Warbird's just a lot more powerful. She was one of the Avengers' resident powerhouses.

Sparta*
06-02-2005, 03:25 PM
2-2 so far...

SonnyBlack
06-02-2005, 03:29 PM
Deathbird

King_Mungi
06-02-2005, 04:01 PM
Warbird, she possess superhuman strength, a high degree of durability, the ability to emit concussive photon bursts and the power of flight. Also, she can absorb various forms of energy, thus augmenting her other abilities.

Spideywebs
06-02-2005, 06:28 PM
Warbird

Silver Sable
06-02-2005, 06:48 PM
Deathbird

Sparta*
06-02-2005, 06:51 PM
4 - 4 ..........

vindrow
06-02-2005, 07:22 PM
I'll give my vote to Warbird :)

Zoken
06-02-2005, 09:42 PM
Warbird. it sounds like she has turning speed on her side seeing as she uses fifth force flight methods. thus she would be able to tire out Deathbird, force her to exert herself. also it has been stated she has a higher strength level than Deathbird.

TheCorpulent1
06-02-2005, 09:45 PM
"Fifth force flight methods"? :confused:

Zoken
06-02-2005, 09:49 PM
I read this theory once by scientists who believed they found a fifth force that works exactly counter to gravity (the original four being Strong, weak, Nuclear, and Gravity). he described this as the kind of thing Super-Man would use to fly. its a personal term but it might have caught on in one or two places. this mysterious theoretical "fifth force" pushes a person away rather than pulling them towards.

I call any one flying without telekineisis or wings or some other explainable method (IE: Warbird, Super-Man, Rogue, Northstar, Etc.) that they are using the "Fifth force flying method"

TheCorpulent1
06-02-2005, 09:55 PM
Huh... interesting.

rodhulk
06-02-2005, 10:05 PM
Warbird.

Midnight Ice
06-03-2005, 04:43 AM
deathbird :xmen:

3dman27
06-03-2005, 05:00 AM
carol danvers warbird

KAD
06-03-2005, 06:37 AM
warbird

Lethal Venom
06-03-2005, 07:45 AM
DeathBird

Ahura Mazda
06-03-2005, 08:19 AM
In the battle of the Birds, Warbird takes it for me...

Sparta*
06-03-2005, 12:34 PM
the finally tally is 10 - 6 for Warbird!! That was a good one!

Next battle comin' up.....

Sparta*
06-03-2005, 12:38 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/logo.jpg

NIGHTMARE
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/nightmare.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/VS2.bmp

MEPHISTO
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/sparta26/mephisto.jpg

Lady Stormcrow
06-03-2005, 01:03 PM
Deathbird

(one of the reasons is...she has a scarier name)

Phaedrus45
06-03-2005, 01:32 PM
Mephisto

U.S War Machine
06-03-2005, 01:45 PM
nightmare

SonnyBlack
06-03-2005, 01:46 PM
Mephisto

Sparta*
06-03-2005, 01:48 PM
Deathbird

(one of the reasons is...she has a scarier name)

a little to late Mrs Richards...we're doing Mephisto VS Nightmare now

Sparta*
06-03-2005, 01:49 PM
I'm going to vote for Nightmare

PaleRider
06-03-2005, 02:35 PM
Mephisto this would be an interesting fight.

TheCorpulent1
06-03-2005, 02:40 PM
Mephisto

Lethal Venom
06-03-2005, 04:17 PM
Mephisto

kamesan
06-03-2005, 06:06 PM
Mephistopheles (I'm old school).

Sparta*
06-03-2005, 06:36 PM
6-2 for Mephisto thus far...

Midnight Ice
06-03-2005, 06:51 PM
Nightmare :xmen: