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vindrow
07-18-2006, 08:18 PM
Gotta give this one to Super Skrull.

1987olds442
07-18-2006, 08:28 PM
Joe Fixit (Gray Hulk)

Toby_Temple
07-18-2006, 09:04 PM
Grey Hulk takes this. Although Super Skrull possess the cumulative powers of all FF members, these powers are only at the level when all 4 are still new to their powers. So I don't think Grey Hulk will have much of a problem dealing with Super Skrull.

CanaryFan
07-18-2006, 09:10 PM
Grey Hulk

taskmaster
07-18-2006, 09:31 PM
Grey Hulk

Hellstormer
07-18-2006, 11:08 PM
Dude!!! What's with all the Beast War's avvy's all the of the sudden? I feel like I should get a BlackArachnia or AirRazor avvy. :(
I call Silverbolt!

EDIT: Yea I'm cool:cool:

U.S War Machine
07-18-2006, 11:19 PM
Grey Hulk

This I.........
07-19-2006, 01:19 AM
Grey Hulk

peace out suckass

Exploding Boy
07-19-2006, 02:15 AM
Super Skrull

Red X
07-19-2006, 03:27 AM
I call Silverbolt!

EDIT: Yea I'm cool:cool:

Rattrap would own Sliverbolt.

spideylover89
07-19-2006, 03:34 AM
Grey Hulk

Silicon Surfer
07-19-2006, 05:14 AM
I haven't seen the Super Skrull in many years so I am not up to date but originally he had powers stronger than the FF in every way plus shapechanging and his paralyzing eye beams that worked on the mind. I can't see them making him weaker so it should be an almost effortless win for the Super Skrull. Since super strength, durability, and stretching mean he can't be hurt by physical strength whether blows or grappling there is nothing that Fixit can do to him no matter how strong Fixit gets.

3dman27
07-19-2006, 06:20 AM
Rattrap would own Sliverbolt.
and oiptimus wouls "prime" the lot of them autobots AND decepticons
commander k,lrt

K4tzm4n
07-19-2006, 06:30 AM
:hulk:

Tropico
07-19-2006, 06:59 AM
Super-Skrull

Damascus013
07-19-2006, 08:41 AM
Grey Hulk Might win this.

Iceman/Psylocke
07-19-2006, 08:49 AM
Super Skrull

Harlekin
07-19-2006, 09:04 AM
Super-Skrull

trustyside-kick
07-19-2006, 09:10 AM
Super skrull

The_Vision
07-19-2006, 11:00 AM
Super Skrull

Silver Sable
07-19-2006, 12:55 PM
Super Skrull

Hellstormer
07-19-2006, 01:28 PM
Rattrap would own Sliverbolt.
Dude Silverbolt so took Ratrap down in the third seasons and in Beast Machines.

Red X
07-19-2006, 01:29 PM
Dude Silverbolt so took Ratrap down in the third seasons and in Beast Machines.

Beast Machines is a crime of nature.

theoneandonly
07-19-2006, 01:41 PM
i have to go with fixit on this 1

Genesis 1.0
07-19-2006, 01:56 PM
Although Mr. Fixit is the smartest Hulk incarnation next to Professor Hulk, I don't think he has what it takes to close this one out. The Super Skrull has the deuce in Versatility and what's more, Durability thanks to Stretch, something most anyone not cosmic never gets over Hulk. The Super Skurll is accustomed to taking on the entire FF4 and doing a damn good job, something I would never credit Joe with.

Super Skrull

Hellstormer
07-19-2006, 02:01 PM
Beast Machines is a crime of nature.
So? Rattrap still got his ass handed to him by Silverbolt in it:p

The Cleric
07-19-2006, 02:10 PM
geez...issue 375 clearly shows fixit beating the super skrull, using his wit and strength.

Genesis 1.0
07-19-2006, 02:14 PM
geez...issue 375 clearly shows fixit beating the super skrull, using his wit and strength.

Yeah and if people just dismissed every battle that's already happened, there'd be little point in threads like this. Example: Thor's beat Surfer before, but that doesn't mean it'd be the same every time, as would be reflected in a vote here.

The Cleric
07-19-2006, 02:15 PM
ok...geez dont get a titty attack

Genesis 1.0
07-19-2006, 02:21 PM
ok...geez dont get a titty attack

Sorry about that, the whole need for logic is a guilty pleasure of mine.:O

1987olds442
07-19-2006, 06:58 PM
Beast Machines is a crime of nature.So true, I don't even concider it as a part of Beast Wars.

Mistress Gluon
07-19-2006, 07:13 PM
Beast Machines is a crime of nature.

My ears bleed even HEARING the name of that show.

Hellstormer
07-19-2006, 07:44 PM
So true, I don't even concider it as a part of Beast Wars.
I got a box set of all three seasons for about $90 and the complete Transmetal series came with it free....I got ripped off :(

1987olds442
07-19-2006, 08:25 PM
I got a box set of all three seasons for about $90 and the complete Transmetal series came with it free....I got ripped off :(I also bought BW season 1-3 DVDs but didn't bother with that other crap that came after.

I also have G1 season 1-4 on DVD :up:

I think we hijacked this thread enough...

:D

Mjolinar
07-19-2006, 08:32 PM
Grey Hulk

Artistsean
07-19-2006, 08:37 PM
Mr. Fixit, he is hulk to a lesser strength but more intellegence.
He would be pretty much like the Hulk, fighting and pounding until his enemy was dead.

Slim31
07-19-2006, 08:51 PM
Mr. Fixit all the way

This I.........
07-20-2006, 12:39 AM
beast wars sucked butt

Vanguard07
07-20-2006, 12:57 AM
Mr. Fixit, he is hulk to a lesser strength but more intellegence.
He would be pretty much like the Hulk, fighting and pounding until his enemy was dead.

Which wouldnt work against someone with Reed's stretching ability as well as the Thing's invulnerability and strength.
not to mention Super Skrull could be invisible.

I'll just throw out a scenario here to illustrate my reasoning for voting Super Skrull. Kl'rt goes invisible right away when the fight starts and hauls ass flying so that he's nowhere near where hulk originally saw him. He then picks a spot and casually encloses hulk's head in a forcefield bubble blocking off Hulk's air. Then just to speed things up Super Skrull uses Human torches nova intensity flames to accelerate the same effect, burning up all the air in the bubble, blinding the hulk (as though it would matter with Kl'rt being invisible the whole time) and overheating his brain all at once.
Hulk, with nothing to hit and no way to defend himself loses consciousness within seconds and loses the fight without ever having landed a blow.

Mistress Gluon
07-20-2006, 01:03 AM
beast wars sucked butt


YOU suck. :mad:

trustyside-kick
07-20-2006, 01:05 AM
I loved watching that show as a kid.

Red X
07-20-2006, 04:55 AM
17 - 12 to Grey Hulk

Next Match up soon.

Red X
07-20-2006, 04:57 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


ONSLAUGHT

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Onslaught.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

GALACTUS
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Galactus.jpg

Sloth7d
07-20-2006, 05:05 AM
Okay, better.
Now I can't decide......

CanaryFan
07-20-2006, 07:03 AM
Galactacus

Parker
07-20-2006, 07:05 AM
My man Galan.

hippy fascist
07-20-2006, 07:09 AM
galactus would eat onslaught as long as there was gravy, onlsought can be kind of dry if not cooked properly

psycho
07-20-2006, 07:30 AM
Hmmm... I'm gonna go with Galactus on this one.

Sloth7d
07-20-2006, 07:31 AM
Yeah, galactus easily.

bcd90
07-20-2006, 10:49 AM
galactus would eat onslaught as long as there was gravy, onlsought can be kind of dry if not cooked properly

Im going to go with Galactus.

The_Vision
07-20-2006, 10:52 AM
Galactus

bkhedr
07-20-2006, 11:12 AM
Galactus

hippy fascist
07-20-2006, 11:19 AM
Im going to go with Galactus.


mmmmmm CHIPS & GRAVY!

Hellstormer
07-20-2006, 11:36 AM
beast wars sucked butt
Heretic! And I gotta go with Onslaught.

Vanguard07
07-20-2006, 11:42 AM
Well Onslaught had the abilities of Franklin Richards, Nate Grey and Xavier.
Franklin Richards alone has ressurrected Galactus, turned into Galactus etc.
Given that fact alone I think Onslaught could give him a run for his money.

I'm not saying he's got more power or anything i'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt and throwing him a vote.

Colossal Spoons
07-20-2006, 11:45 AM
Ok, I need to know more about this Franklin Richards, what do I need to read? And what's the deal with him now, has Reed locked away some of his psychic abilities?

Mjolinar
07-20-2006, 12:07 PM
Galactus

trustyside-kick
07-20-2006, 12:32 PM
Galactus

Exploding Boy
07-20-2006, 01:35 PM
Onslaught

The BatDude
07-20-2006, 01:41 PM
Galactus

Clark K.
07-20-2006, 01:58 PM
Galactus

taskmaster
07-20-2006, 02:09 PM
Galactus

Slim31
07-20-2006, 02:21 PM
Onslaught because I hate cosmic beings

3dman27
07-20-2006, 02:31 PM
onslaught

Genesis 1.0
07-20-2006, 02:33 PM
Galactus doesn't deign to use his strength in battle but he is capable of augmenting it to levels that are out of mortal comprehension, at a 'resting' state, he's well out of the 100 Ton range. Hell, as to his prefereed battle tool, his cosmic powers, look 'em up anywhere and it's described as 'beyond comprhension' that can be used for an incalcuable amount of things, so he can do damn near anything, down to molecular decomposition and reassembling. This guy can teleport things and people through space and time with little effort, we've seen him erect invincible force fields and he wasn't even pressed hard to get serious.

Quite aside from the incalcuable strength, versatility, and cosmic powers, he's a telepath the likes of which that make Xaiver look like Stilt Man. There has yet to be a mind he can't penetrate no matter how many defenses are in place. For Onslaught, I think Galactus would pull out his Punisher robot and if Onslaught got past that then he'd decimate him personally.

Onslaught is spectactular, but he's only NEAR limitless, he's only NEAR indestructible. His psychic abilities are impressive, but his only feats in that area were making Wolverine think he was a baby wolf and tricking Storm, his physical strength is demonstrated by going toe to toe with Hulk....not even on a Galactus scale since a physical battle between Hulk and Galactus...well, it wouldn't even be a battle. However, Onslaught's widespread effect on the MU in a much shorter time than Galactus seems to lend him more power than he actually has.

Galactus

Genesis 1.0
07-20-2006, 02:55 PM
EDIT: Double post

Bastila
07-20-2006, 03:00 PM
Galactus

Silver Sable
07-20-2006, 03:32 PM
Galactus

This I.........
07-20-2006, 04:13 PM
Onslaught
i hope sparta takes a longer vacation

peace out suckas

Genesis 1.0
07-20-2006, 04:15 PM
*shakes head*

Sparta, please renew the explanation rule when you return.

This I.........
07-20-2006, 04:20 PM
i chose onslaught because it took all of marvels top characters to defeat him (x-men, fantastic 4, Avengers, Namor, Spider-Man) and so on

galactus gets his ass kick by just the fantastic 4 alone!!!!!!

peace out suckas

Silicon Surfer
07-20-2006, 04:21 PM
Galactus

Hellstormer
07-20-2006, 04:27 PM
i chose onslaught because it took all of marvels top characters to defeat him (x-men, fantastic 4, Avengers, Namor, Spider-Man) and so on

galactus gets his ass kick by just the fantastic 4 alone!!!!!!

peace out suckas
1) Stop the peace out suckas bull**** and 2) Galactus wasn't really defeated mby the FF he just retreated.

Genesis 1.0
07-20-2006, 04:29 PM
To add onto that, had they gathered those same heroes against Galactus, they would have ALL died, instead of the 17 or so big names. On another note that SOOOOO many people get wrong, the FF4 didn't beat Galactus, they didn't even create the Ultimate Nullifier. So that's moot.

If you're actually going to try and defend a vote that makes no sense, take a look at the short summary I gave of what Galactus can do and tell me how Onslaught measures up. What's that? He doesn't? Right.

This I.........
07-20-2006, 04:31 PM
this is for Hellstormer

peace out sucka

Hellstormer
07-20-2006, 05:05 PM
this is for Hellstormer

peace out sucka
Frack you

To add onto that, had they gathered those same heroes against Galactus, they would have ALL died, instead of the 17 or so big names. On another note that SOOOOO many people get wrong, the FF4 didn't beat Galactus, they didn't even create the Ultimate Nullifier. So that's moot.



If you're actually going to try and defend a vote that makes no sense, take a look at the short summary I gave of what Galactus can do and tell me how Onslaught measures up. What's that? He doesn't? Right.well um actually I think Onslaught can beat Galactus:O because while Galactus is powerul Onslught has alot of powers (according to Wiki):Seemingly unlimited superhuman strength, speed and stamina, Invulnerability, Telepathy, Telekinesis, Magnetokinesis, Reality Warping, Super-genius. And yes I know Galactus has reality warping powers but I think the Super-genius of Onslaught is really the deciding factor for my vote.

Slim31
07-20-2006, 05:30 PM
Frack you

well um actually I think Onslaught can beat Galactus:O because while Galactus is powerul Onslught has alot of powers (according to Wiki):Seemingly unlimited superhuman strength, speed and stamina, Invulnerability, Telepathy, Telekinesis, Magnetokinesis, Reality Warping, Super-genius. And yes I know Galactus has reality warping powers but I think the Super-genius of Onslaught is really the deciding factor for my vote.

God bless wikipedia. Galactus sucks

Zoken
07-20-2006, 05:31 PM
The Big G, Galactus

U.S War Machine
07-20-2006, 05:41 PM
Onslaught

Apprentice
07-20-2006, 06:00 PM
A tough one...hm...I think Onslaught just takes it.

Rellings
07-20-2006, 06:03 PM
The guy lookin like he wants to grab my man-boobs.

Silicon Surfer
07-20-2006, 06:12 PM
While Onslaught was able to tap into Franklin and Nates' powers when he had them trapped their powers were not a part of him. Galactus also has vast superhuman intelligence beyond human understanding. I cannot recall any instances of Onslaught displaying superhuman intelligence however.

1987olds442
07-20-2006, 06:46 PM
Galactus

Vanguard07
07-20-2006, 08:09 PM
Whether they were his own or not he was able to use them and Franklin Richards seems most able to reach his potential when others are doing it for him.

Either way I'm sticking by my vote. Galactus is undoubtedly more powerful but I think Onslaught could take him. He's powerful enough.

and besides.... sometimes you gotta root for the underdog.

Mistress Gluon
07-20-2006, 08:36 PM
Whether they were his own or not he was able to use them and Franklin Richards seems most able to reach his potential when others are doing it for him.

Either way I'm sticking by my vote. Galactus is undoubtedly more powerful but I think Onslaught could take him. He's powerful enough.

and besides.... sometimes you gotta root for the underdog.

Franklin's potential is reached when he's under heavy duress. Not when someone wants him to do it. Creating universes, rewriting universes and such.

Galactus takes it depending on the last feeding time. Which I'm going to assume was fairly recent.

Colossal Spoons
07-20-2006, 08:51 PM
*shakes head*

Sparta, please renew the explanation rule when you return.

:( :(

Apparently, molecular decomposition means nothing to the Onslaught supporters.

Toby_Temple
07-20-2006, 09:37 PM
NOTE: The Ultimate Nullifier was needed to defeat Galactus. Earth did not need it to defeat Onslaught. With that knowlegde alone, I can surely conclude that Galactus is definitely more powerful than Onslaught.

Galactus possesses the Power Cosmic in extremely vast quantities. With such power, he attained total mastery over the 4 fundamental forces of the universe. Onslaught's telekinesis and magnetokinesis is nothing compared to Galactus' control over gravity and electromagnetic force. Reality warping is nothing compared to Galactus' ability to manipulate matter and energy in anyway he wants. In addition to that, Galactus can also create life, resurrect the dead, and even send any object, even an entire galaxy to any place and time he wants them to be.

That is why I'm voting for Galactus.

The Punisher
07-20-2006, 09:47 PM
Galactus

torkibe
07-20-2006, 10:20 PM
Maybe.... MAYBE... if Galactus hadn't eaten in a few years Onslaught MIGHT stand a chance. Galactus IS the Power Cosmic. With just a TINY fraction of his power he is able to imbue mere mortals with power that can defeat most other mortals combined. When he is at full strength, Onslaught wouldn't even be a nuisance, let alone have a chance of beating him. Galactus easily.

Rellings
07-20-2006, 11:17 PM
Edit: whoops random post.

Hellstormer
07-20-2006, 11:17 PM
Wait if Galactus is so much more powerful then why didn't he step in to defeat Onslaught when Onslaught threatened the whole reality?

Silicon Surfer
07-20-2006, 11:34 PM
Because Galactus knows the future in at least fair detail if not completely. He knows how everything important is going to turn out and whether he needs to act.

Vanguard07
07-20-2006, 11:36 PM
lol cause he didnt know about Onslaught cause galactus aint so freakin great after all.

The Cleric
07-20-2006, 11:43 PM
first of all DO NOT COMPARE ONSLAUGHTS INTELLECT TO GALACTUS'! believe me, you can put everyone on earths intelligence in onslaught and it still wouldnt compare to a fraction of the collected data and elder-like intelligence of galactus. while onslaught may be unrivaled on earth, i say the silver dutch(i doubt they'll allow the actual word)-bag would beat him. Galactus would pretty much eat onslaught easily, as well as the planet, and the whole freagin pocket universe.
we are talking about the power cosmic here!

Toby_Temple
07-21-2006, 12:21 AM
lol cause he didnt know about Onslaught cause galactus aint so freakin great after all.

Galactus has Cosmic awareness of universal scale. Hello............:p

Mistress Gluon
07-21-2006, 12:22 AM
Wait if Galactus is so much more powerful then why didn't he step in to defeat Onslaught when Onslaught threatened the whole reality?

Why didn't the Living Tribunal? THAT would make more sense he'd interfere. And the answer is simple, because that'd make a lame story if one person came to power, a cosmic entity deemed it too dangerous, and came to Earth to kill it.

Toby_Temple
07-21-2006, 12:39 AM
Wait if Galactus is so much more powerful then why didn't he step in to defeat Onslaught when Onslaught threatened the whole reality?

Coz the writers chose not to include him in the story. Period!

Damascus013
07-21-2006, 12:52 AM
Galactus.. 'nuff said!

Corporal
07-21-2006, 01:02 AM
Galactus for sure, in my opinion.

Tropico
07-21-2006, 01:59 AM
Galactus, posessor of the Ultimate Nullifer. Was there any doubt?:confused:

KevanG
07-21-2006, 06:54 AM
Hey US War Machine. Street Sharks for your Avy? Anyway I vote Galactus. All Onslaught gave us was Heros reborn (and we all know how that turned out)and we really haven't seen him since. Meanwhile Galactus has taken everything the universe has thrown at him and still kicked thier butts. It would be a cool fight but Galactus gets my vote.

Ahura Mazda
07-21-2006, 08:50 AM
Well lets see on one hand we have threat to planet Earth that needed combined heroes and the other a threat to the Universe who needed the most powerful weapoon in existance for him to be defeated (which could have also destroyed the univers).

Unless Galactus was starving...and I mean months in the desert starving...I really don't see much of a battle for the Big G. The only thing that makes me think there is even a small chance was in a what if where the Hulk, Professor X, and Reed combined to create X-Man (a golden 15 ft giant who could fly), that Galactus did not want to fight because victory would have been very difficult.

Genesis 1.0
07-21-2006, 01:23 PM
:( :(

Apparently, molecular decomposition means nothing to the Onslaught supporters.

Heh, I feel your pain bro. I took the time to educate people on the extent of Galactus' powers and abilities that completely and utterly dwarf Onslaught's and STILL it seems like I'm talking to a brick wall.:( :(

Galactus doesn't deign to use his strength in battle but he is capable of augmenting it to levels that are out of mortal comprehension, at a 'resting' state, he's well out of the 100 Ton range. Hell, as to his prefereed battle tool, his cosmic powers, look 'em up anywhere and it's described as 'beyond comprhension' that can be used for an incalcuable amount of things, so he can do damn near anything, down to molecular decomposition and reassembling. This guy can teleport things and people through space and time with little effort, we've seen him erect invincible force fields and he wasn't even pressed hard to get serious.

Quite aside from the incalcuable strength, versatility, and cosmic powers, he's a telepath the likes of which that make Xaiver look like Stilt Man. There has yet to be a mind he can't penetrate no matter how many defenses are in place. For Onslaught, I think Galactus would pull out his Punisher robot and if Onslaught got past that then he'd decimate him personally.

Onslaught is spectactular, but he's only NEAR limitless, he's only NEAR indestructible. His psychic abilities are impressive, but his only feats in that area were making Wolverine think he was a baby wolf and tricking Storm, his physical strength is demonstrated by going toe to toe with Hulk....not even on a Galactus scale since a physical battle between Hulk and Galactus...well, it wouldn't even be a battle. However, Onslaught's widespread effect on the MU in a much shorter time than Galactus seems to lend him more power than he actually has.

Galactus:( :down

Apprentice
07-21-2006, 01:32 PM
Changing my vote to Galactus.

Genesis 1.0
07-21-2006, 02:22 PM
Changing my vote to Galactus.

Heh, there is yet some hope left in the world.:up:

Red X
07-21-2006, 05:18 PM
Galactus 23 - 12

Next match up soon.

Red X
07-21-2006, 05:19 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

SPIDERCIDE

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Spidercide.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

VENOM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Venom.jpg

Apprentice
07-21-2006, 05:31 PM
Venom.

The_Vision
07-21-2006, 05:52 PM
Venom

Rellings
07-21-2006, 05:56 PM
Venom.

Red X
07-21-2006, 05:58 PM
I'm not feeling the love for Spidercide

Vanguard07
07-21-2006, 06:22 PM
Venom. So long as it's brock not gargan. *&*^ Gargan.

Zoken
07-21-2006, 06:30 PM
yes, the Brock Venom takes this one.

CanaryFan
07-21-2006, 06:55 PM
I don't know Spidercide.Gotta go with Venom

trustyside-kick
07-21-2006, 07:11 PM
Venom

Iceman/Psylocke
07-21-2006, 07:12 PM
V-Nom

Hellstormer
07-21-2006, 07:52 PM
Spidercide

SSJ4_Mikael
07-21-2006, 07:57 PM
Venom's cooler, I'll go with him.

1987olds442
07-21-2006, 08:05 PM
Spidercide

Hellstormer
07-21-2006, 08:14 PM
What if Venom combined with Spidercide?

U.S War Machine
07-21-2006, 09:45 PM
Hey US War Machine. Street Sharks for your Avy?Yeah why not?

U.S War Machine
07-21-2006, 09:45 PM
Venom

Tropico
07-21-2006, 10:05 PM
Venom.

Silver Sable
07-21-2006, 11:16 PM
Eddie

KevanG
07-21-2006, 11:23 PM
Yeah why not?

Nothing bad. I just remember watching that show when I was younger. I still get creeped out by them :D BTW Because I HATE Clone Saga so DAMN much Venom gets my vote (he would have anyway). LET IT DIE MARVEL! LET IT DIE!!!

K4tzm4n
07-21-2006, 11:36 PM
venom

Super Mark
07-22-2006, 12:40 AM
I'll go with sweet little Eddie.



I don't know Spidercide.Gotta go with Venom


Spidercide is a spray made by Raid used to kill crawling insects and spiders. It's $4.99 at Wal-Mart.
:p

rodhulk
07-22-2006, 12:41 AM
Venom

Parker
07-22-2006, 12:42 AM
Vennie, of course.

Red X
07-22-2006, 03:18 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spidercide_%28comics%29

http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/spidercide.html

Spidercide

Powers: All of Spider-Man's powers. Can grow and shrink in size. Can turn body semi-liquid and form blades. Limited Shapeshifting.

Colossal Spoons
07-22-2006, 04:33 AM
Venom's cooler, I'll go with him.

:( :(

Bastila
07-22-2006, 07:43 AM
Venmo.

Sloth7d
07-22-2006, 07:57 AM
They both suck. Next match.

Harlekin
07-22-2006, 08:15 AM
Spidercide

theoneandonly
07-22-2006, 08:27 AM
venom

Genesis 1.0
07-22-2006, 02:34 PM
Spidercide's ability to form objects, grow and shrink, AND shapeshift makes him an ideal blend of Carnage, Giant Man, and the Chamelon, not to mention he can do everything Spider Man can. All in all, I think that if Spidercide can shapeshift into something that resembles his surroundings AFTER shrinking, he'll definitely get the jump on Venom, i.e. Venom punches Spidercide across the room, goes to follow up and Spidercide's nowhere to be seen. Add onto that his ability to slice and dice with the strength and agility of Spider Man, and I think my boy Venom's a done deal.

Spidercide

Champagne
07-22-2006, 04:09 PM
venom

U.S War Machine
07-22-2006, 07:35 PM
I'll go with slobber mouth

Venom.Symbiote
07-22-2006, 10:28 PM
Although Genesis 1.0 has a good argument for Spidercide, it goes against every fiber of my being to ever vote against Venom in a situation like this. Venom gets my vote. :venom:

Hellstormer
07-23-2006, 12:09 AM
Although Genesis 1.0 has a good argument for Spidercide, it goes against every fiber of my being to ever vote against Venom in a situation like this. Venom gets my vote. :venom:
Fine Venom vs. Galactus?

Artistsean
07-23-2006, 12:45 AM
The reason I am voting for Venom here is because Spidercide seems to thrown together.
I can see wrtiers and artists saying "OK, he is a clone of Spider-Man, but lets give him more powers to make him cooler. He can grow or shrink." "and turn semi liquid." "and form blades" "and shapeshift."
I don't know.
Maybe if I saw a cool story with him, but from the description he seems very poorly designed.

Venom.

Anubis
07-23-2006, 01:15 AM
I don't care. Symbiotes suck and clones do too. Thats like asking me to choose between an ********* and a douche bag.

Zoken
07-23-2006, 01:17 AM
Major harshness from the death god... ouch.

Colossal Spoons
07-23-2006, 01:20 AM
I don't care. Symbiotes suck and clones do too. Thats like asking me to choose between an ********* and a douche bag.

You really dislike symbiotes huh?

Iceman/Psylocke
07-23-2006, 01:22 AM
You really dislike symbiotes huh?Everyone seems to either love or hate them.

Colossal Spoons
07-23-2006, 01:24 AM
I think they're cool. Like an extra voice in you head plus powers.

Anubis
07-23-2006, 01:35 AM
You really dislike symbiotes huh?

Nah, i'm rather what you'd call, unimpressed. I just have never seen what all the fuss was about.

Parker
07-23-2006, 01:37 AM
Nah, i'm rather what you'd call, unimpressed. I just have never seen what all the fuss was about.

Symbiotes were introduced into the Spider-Man mythos during the time when black was the internationally recognized "cool" color.

Artistsean
07-23-2006, 01:39 AM
I don't care. Symbiotes suck and clones do too. Thats like asking me to choose between an ********* and a douche bag.

Quote reminds me of Southpark's
Election 2004:
Giant Douchebag
vs.
Turd Sandwich

Anubis
07-23-2006, 01:41 AM
So, whats the current internationally recognized "cool" color? Hunter Green? Turquoise? Bad Burrito brown?

Lets face it people, Venom is a Gene Simmons ripoff. :o

Anubis
07-23-2006, 01:42 AM
Quote reminds me of Southpark's
Election 2004:
Giant Douchebag
vs.
Turd Sandwich

Exactly.

Artistsean
07-23-2006, 01:43 AM
I don't know if I AM or AM NOT a fan of Venom, but i am a bigger fan of Venom than I am of Spidercide.

Anubis
07-23-2006, 01:47 AM
Fandom has nothing to do with it. It's a matter of powers, and abilities. Just because you like Captain America more than say, Aquaman, doesn't mean he would stand a chance against him in a fight. You've seen what Spidercide is capable of, and you know what Venom can do. Make your vote based on that, not about how they look, or who is cooler.

I simply choose not to vote because this match was already done. There was a Ben Riley vs Venom vs Spidercide awhile back. Seems a bit redundant to me. So I abstain

Iceman/Psylocke
07-23-2006, 01:53 AM
I think they're cool. Like an extra voice in you head plus powers.I love everything to do with symbiotes. I can understand why fans of classic villains hate them though.

Iceman/Psylocke
07-23-2006, 01:53 AM
Fandom has nothing to do with it. Agreed. Otherwise this would all be pointless, just a popularity contest.

Anubis
07-23-2006, 01:55 AM
Which is what it normally is. Logic always dies a horrible death in versus threads.

Zoken
07-23-2006, 02:02 AM
by the way, the current "cool color" is black and neon green. this has been in place since that damned movie... you know the one I mean... although I am lobbying to change it to electric blue.

Artistsean
07-23-2006, 03:08 AM
All I have to base my vote on is the descriptions of Spidercide and pictures of him, and everything I know about Venom.
Plus I think Venom would win anyway.

Corporal
07-23-2006, 03:10 AM
Venom ftw.

Sloth7d
07-23-2006, 11:02 AM
Next match, PLEASE!

Mjolinar
07-23-2006, 12:27 PM
venom

Iceman/Psylocke
07-23-2006, 12:32 PM
Great timing for a Venom match yesterday :O

The only way he would have lost this was if he looked really, really bad.

bcd90
07-23-2006, 01:08 PM
Next match, PLEASE!
...

Red X
07-23-2006, 02:42 PM
Next match, PLEASE!

Please don't do that in future.

22 - 4 to Venom

Next match up soon.

Red X
07-23-2006, 02:49 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

KRAVEN
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Kraven2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


BLADE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Blade2.jpg

Anubis
07-23-2006, 02:51 PM
Damn good Match up. I'll have to think about this one.

CanaryFan
07-23-2006, 03:05 PM
I'll go with Blade.

Anubis
07-23-2006, 03:17 PM
Remember, you have to give a reason why Blade would win or it wont count.

Sloth7d
07-23-2006, 03:30 PM
Blade.
Hunter with high tech gadgets>hunter with mediocre gadgets.

Rellings
07-23-2006, 03:31 PM
Remember, you have to give a reason why Blade would win or it wont count.

Blade...........because.

Red X
07-23-2006, 03:32 PM
Please give a valid reason.

Rellings
07-23-2006, 03:41 PM
Please give a valid reason.

What Sloth7d said, plus Blade = mad martial artist skillz.

The_Vision
07-23-2006, 03:48 PM
Blade cause he's half vampire (isnt he?) plus all his weapons and gadgets.Kraven is just a normal human with hunting skills.

Artistsean
07-23-2006, 03:55 PM
Blade,
reason: he is a vampire without any vampire weaknesses.
He is stronger, faster, and heals faster, like a vampire
but
he can walk in the day, and stuff like that.

Kraven may be a skilled hunter and tracker, and skilled athlete
but he is only human.
I really like Kraven as a character, but Blade would win.

KevanG
07-23-2006, 04:00 PM
Is it Kraven pumped up on his crazy drugs? If it is then he might be able to give a good fight if he had some prep time to set up some traps. If its just normal "Steve Irwin" Kraven then Blade takes it all due to the massive martial arts skills and weapons. Blade gets my vote either way.

Red X
07-23-2006, 04:03 PM
This Kraven at his prime.

Hellstormer
07-23-2006, 04:15 PM
If I can't just type a vote I'm not gonna bother, it's too much work.:p I like to just agree with other people.:D

Colossal Spoons
07-23-2006, 04:18 PM
Fandom has nothing to do with it. It's a matter of powers, and abilities. Just because you like Captain America more than say, Aquaman, doesn't mean he would stand a chance against him in a fight. You've seen what Spidercide is capable of, and you know what Venom can do. Make your vote based on that, not about how they look, or who is cooler.

That would be ideal, but it won't work. Only about 10 of us are smart enough and willing to do that Remember when Sparta tried "The New Rule":(

Red X
07-23-2006, 04:18 PM
It just helps make the vote more fair instead of characters winning simply because of his/her popularity.

Colossal Spoons
07-23-2006, 04:20 PM
Oh, I'm right there with you. We tried it and voter turnout dropped by like 80% and Sparta feared that his thread would die so he abolished the rule. It was a fun 3 days nonetheless.

Like this:

If I can't just type a vote I'm not gonna bother, it's too much work.:p I like to just agree with other people.:D

Red X
07-23-2006, 04:23 PM
I see your point. I don't want Spart* Tournament to die, after all I'm only the caretaker while he's away.

Reluctenly I will abolished the rule.

Exploding Boy
07-23-2006, 05:30 PM
Blade has the half vampire-ness that makes him physically better than Kraven who is a mere skilled human.

Blade

Sloth7d
07-23-2006, 05:35 PM
I wish more people did liked to vote based on logic.
I use to.
But fanboys have made me wonder,"whats the point?"
I waste time and energy typing my opinion, just to be shut down by a comment like, "My fav character>you"
So now most of my post on these things are kept short, and I only use references if I have to.

3dman27
07-23-2006, 05:47 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

KRAVEN
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Kraven2.jpg

[IMG
heres my pick

Sloth7d
07-23-2006, 05:52 PM
Its like he's aiming at me-*gets shot in the head.*

Hellstormer
07-23-2006, 05:54 PM
I see your point. I don't want Spart* Tournament to die, after all I'm only the caretaker while he's away.

Reluctenly I will abolished the rule.
I'm not saying it's a bad rule but I gotta wait till Genesis does his super intelligent speech on his vote, hoping it's the same guy I want so I can just agree :D If he doesn't vote for the same person i gotta find someone else :(

1987olds442
07-23-2006, 08:14 PM
Blade

Anubis
07-23-2006, 08:20 PM
I'm gonna go with Kraven. With his potions and crap he was near Spidey in terms of speed, strength, and agility. Vampires, as far as I know, aren't on the same level as Spidey in any of those categories. So, I'm gonna go with the guy who pawned Spidey and then ate a bullet because he was just too damn badass to live anymore. :o

Vanguard07
07-23-2006, 11:57 PM
Yeah Kraven was somewhat superhuman. He was able to tangle with Spidey and all but only when he had the drop on him. His whole schtick revolved around planning. he set traps and he hunted. In a straight up physical confrontation he's nowhere near Spidey's level.

Blade in a straight fight would probably have the edge. So i'm voting for him.

Silicon Surfer
07-24-2006, 12:07 AM
Blade and Kraven are very similar in strength with Blade having a slight edge. Kraven I think has the edge in skill and determination. The fight could easily go either way depending on very minor circumstances. Kravens weapons are the superior in my opinion at least so I vote for Kraven.

trustyside-kick
07-24-2006, 12:44 AM
Blade

Red X
07-24-2006, 03:54 AM
I'll vote for Kraven, because It's my opinion he's better trainned.

Iceman/Psylocke
07-24-2006, 09:08 AM
Blade has the physical edge and this could be the telling factor. Close fight though.

Red X
07-24-2006, 09:16 AM
11 - 6 to Blade so far.

theoneandonly
07-24-2006, 09:55 AM
blade

better trai ed

Ahura Mazda
07-24-2006, 10:14 AM
Well it depemds on how prepared Kraven would be. Well prepared and on his drugs then I think he could give Blade a good battle....garlic infused bullets or some such nonsense could work. However, if this is a strait up fight I would say Blade.

I hate to say this but with prep time ....Kraven; without Blade

Ahura Mazda
07-24-2006, 10:14 AM
Well it depemds on how prepared Kraven would be. Well prepared and on his drugs then I think he could give Blade a good battle....garlic infused bullets or some such nonsense could work. However, if this is a strait up fight I would say Blade.

I hate to say this but with prep time ....Kraven; without Blade

Harlekin
07-24-2006, 10:45 AM
Kraven.

U.S War Machine
07-24-2006, 11:49 AM
This Kraven at his prime.There is no prime


Blade gets my vote

Red X
07-24-2006, 11:58 AM
14 - 7 to Blade.

Next match up soon.

Red X
07-24-2006, 12:01 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg
SANDMAN
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Sandman.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


SHE-HULK
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/SheHulk.jpg

Silver Sable
07-24-2006, 12:13 PM
Flint

Artistsean
07-24-2006, 12:20 PM
I'm thinking She Hulk because she has super strength and healing, and Spider-Man is able to confront Sandman and stop him most of the time.

wait, how does Spider-Man usually stop Sand Man?

Red X
07-24-2006, 12:22 PM
He's just lucky I guess. :spidey:

Artistsean
07-24-2006, 12:26 PM
Because Sandman is one of Spider-Man's top foes, he has faced him alot.
And I can't think of a way to beat Sandman, but Spider-Man is still alive so there must be a way.

The_Vision
07-24-2006, 12:30 PM
I'll go with Sandman

Hellstormer
07-24-2006, 12:38 PM
Sandman he's like water except he can't be shocked.

Artistsean
07-24-2006, 12:40 PM
I'll go with She-Hulk, becuase Spider-Man usually finds a way to beat Sandman. I think She-Hulk could find a way too.

Vanguard07
07-24-2006, 02:09 PM
Wait... are they fighting on a beach? both of their picks are set at a beach... In which case Sandman would own she-hulk....
outside of a beach... barring some form of area advantage or plot device that She-hulk could take advantage of I still think Sandman would win.

Physical powers cant beat him.

Rellings
07-24-2006, 02:14 PM
Sandman.

Venom.Symbiote
07-24-2006, 02:15 PM
From what I understand, Sandman isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer (not as stupid as the Rhino but definitely no rocket scientist) and since Jenny is a lawyer I'm thinking she's pretty bright. How hard would it be for her to trick him into water or wet cement or something? Unlike Spidey, she could chase him around carrying a cement truck and pour wet cement on him. Sandman is good but Jenny's brains on top of her brawn would be more than he could handle. I think this is why Sandman doesn't usually take on heros much more powerful than Spidey.


Jenny gets my vote. :venom:

Sawyer
07-24-2006, 02:22 PM
She-Hulk, Sandman is mostly from brute power, and Jenny could easyly outsmart him.

Red X
07-24-2006, 02:28 PM
I'd say Jenny.

3dman27
07-24-2006, 02:54 PM
she hulk

Red X
07-24-2006, 02:55 PM
5 - 5 so far.

Genesis 1.0
07-24-2006, 02:55 PM
I'm going for Sandman, since there's absolutely nothing She Hulk could do to him with the physical assault, she's a one trick pony on that score. Meanwhile, Flint leaves a little of himself lying around every time she nails him with the physical onslaught, she's nice and lulled and then Flint brings it all together from all directions. Suffocation via sand clogged nasal passages or lungs long enough to black her out and this one's a wrap. And given that there's no idiotic plot devices like fighting near a pool or it starting to rain and Jen's screwed.

Sandman

Red X
07-24-2006, 03:20 PM
I'm going for Sandman, since there's absolutely nothing She Hulk could do to him with the physical assault, she's a one trick pony on that score. Meanwhile, Flint leaves a little of himself lying around every time she nails him with the physical onslaught, she's nice and lulled and then Flint brings it all together from all directions. Suffocation via sand clogged nasal passages or lungs long enough to black her out and this one's a wrap. And given that there's no idiotic plot devices like fighting near a pool or it starting to rain and Jen's screwed.

Sandman

lol

kytrigger
07-24-2006, 03:36 PM
I gotta go with Sandman. He might not be the smartest guy, but he is smart enough to know his own weaknesses and be wary of them. As long as he doesn't go into water (which you would think he would be watching out for) there is no way for She Hulk to actually stop him.

Genesis 1.0
07-24-2006, 04:50 PM
lol

Heh, I was wondering if anyone else would pick up on that one.:up:

Silicon Surfer
07-24-2006, 05:31 PM
Sandman is not all that stupid. He has fought the FF and outsmarted Reed when Reed tried to use an electrical weapon on him. Reed nearly barbequed himself. Sandy has gotten harder and harder to beat over the years.Spidey has the advantage of moving and thinking much faster than Sandman. She-Hulk has only a strength advantage that essentially does nothing since physical strength cannot hurt him. Sandman has put up a good fight against the entire FF.

Bastila
07-24-2006, 05:34 PM
Sandman

Red X
07-24-2006, 05:35 PM
So...who are you voting for?

Sloth7d
07-24-2006, 05:56 PM
It would be easy for Jenny to enchase Sandman in a solid form with liquid nitrogen, something Spidey does on a regular to Sand face. I say she-hulkizzle.

Sloth7d
07-24-2006, 05:56 PM
double

Colossal Spoons
07-24-2006, 06:15 PM
She-Hulk; for all of the brain+brawn arguments stated earlier.

Anubis
07-24-2006, 08:27 PM
She-Hulk. Jen might not do much to him physically, but she's smart enough to figure out how to take him down.

Vanguard07
07-24-2006, 08:32 PM
It would be easy for Jenny to enchase Sandman in a solid form with liquid nitrogen, something Spidey does on a regular to Sand face. I say she-hulkizzle.

She-hulk doesnt usually carry around a big tank of Liquid nitrogen on her. This is with no prep time and no area advantages.

Barring a plot device (which is how Spidey beats him every time) Sandman's practically impossible to beat with just physical powers.

K4tzm4n
07-24-2006, 08:53 PM
Def Sandman.

1987olds442
07-24-2006, 08:58 PM
She-Hulk

Hellstormer
07-24-2006, 09:06 PM
She-hulk doesnt usually carry around a big tank of Liquid nitrogen on her. This is with no prep time and no area advantages.
.C'mon everyone carries liquid Nitrogen with them.:o

bcd90
07-24-2006, 11:05 PM
Unless they are fighting in a dessert or a beach where he has sand and she has nothing to throw at him. I'd say She-Hulk.

bkhedr
07-24-2006, 11:08 PM
She-Hulk

Exploding Boy
07-25-2006, 02:59 AM
Like stated I think(realistically) Spidey beats Sandman is with some plot device. I give it to Flint because he can suffocate Jen before she finds a cement truck to dump on him :rolleyes:

Toby_Temple
07-25-2006, 04:06 AM
She-Hulk. She is tough enough to last long enough to find a way to beat Sandman. She can lure her to a construction site or a beach and then Sandman is going down.

Red X
07-25-2006, 04:08 AM
11 - 10 to Sandman

Next match up soon.

Ahura Mazda
07-25-2006, 05:31 AM
Given that I do not think Sandman is as intelligent as Genesis 1.0 here even though based on his powers he should be able to take it, I think she hulk would win using a number of plot devices like the cement truck or water barrel. It is sad but I give this battle to her.

Venom.Symbiote
07-25-2006, 05:38 AM
I'm going for Sandman, since there's absolutely nothing She Hulk could do to him with the physical assault, she's a one trick pony on that score. Meanwhile, Flint leaves a little of himself lying around every time she nails him with the physical onslaught, she's nice and lulled and then Flint brings it all together from all directions. Suffocation via sand clogged nasal passages or lungs long enough to black her out and this one's a wrap. And given that there's no idiotic plot devices like fighting near a pool or it starting to rain and Jen's screwed.

Sandman

Location is a key factor here. If they are in a desert then Sandman would win. On a beach it would most likely be a stalemate since all Jen has to do is go into the water and he won't follow her. If they are in the city or any other town, I'm sure there are plenty of hydrants around for her to break open and wash him away with. There are water pipes everywhere, all she'd have to do is find one if there weren't any quicker sources of water like the aforementioned pool, lakes, rivers, streams, ponds, etc...
She could always just spit on him. lol :venom:

CanaryFan
07-25-2006, 06:13 AM
C'mon Sandman would be drooling so much that he'd produce enough moisture to defeat himself! She HUlk all the way!


By the way, I don't consider it a plot device to be able to find something that can be used against sandman almost anywhere in one of the biggest and busiest cities in the world.

Red X
07-25-2006, 10:34 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg

IRONFIST
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/IronFist.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

HAWKEYE
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Hawkeye.jpg

3dman27
07-25-2006, 10:36 AM
iron fist the living weapon

The_Vision
07-25-2006, 10:56 AM
Hawkeye

Colossal Spoons
07-25-2006, 10:58 AM
Guess this fight depends on where they're fighting and how much distance is between them at first.

Harlekin
07-25-2006, 11:02 AM
Iron Fist

Apprentice
07-25-2006, 11:20 AM
Wow, poor Hawkeye. Iron Fist takes it all the way.

Red X
07-25-2006, 11:24 AM
Hawkeye

Iceman/Psylocke
07-25-2006, 11:26 AM
Iron Fist takes this & Sandman the one above (although that one's already done).

Silver Sable
07-25-2006, 12:27 PM
Iron Fist

bcd90
07-25-2006, 01:44 PM
Iron fist

The Cleric
07-25-2006, 01:46 PM
iron fist. all you fake hawkeye fans can cry.

Venom.Symbiote
07-25-2006, 03:00 PM
Iron Fist, the Master Pimp. :venom:



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