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Iceman/Psylocke
08-03-2006, 12:22 AM
M is as hard as they come. She's got a bit of everything.

Slim31
08-03-2006, 12:41 AM
M she's a ***** with skills

incubat
08-03-2006, 12:42 AM
what does M stand for?

Exploding Boy
08-03-2006, 12:45 AM
Monet is her first name

trustyside-kick
08-03-2006, 01:06 AM
Let's compare shall we:

Firestar has: Microwave manipulation, flight, thermal energy blasts
and
M has: Superhuman strength and speed, nigh-invulnerability, accelerated healing factor, flight, enhanced vision and hearing, telepathy, and the ability to perceive mutants' auras.

Now normally I would say Firestar but seeing has how M is "night-invunerable" and she has a healing factor and flught she pretty much is unstoppable and would be able to flatten Firestar and besides that as far as I know Firestar doesn't have much of a mental defense so I go with M hands down

M

:eek:

How is this a fair match-up? Obviously M wins.

Midnight Ice
08-03-2006, 05:42 AM
M:xmen:

Apprentice
08-03-2006, 05:51 AM
I'll go with M.

The_Vision
08-03-2006, 05:52 AM
Monet

3dman27
08-03-2006, 11:06 AM
firestar

Zoken
08-03-2006, 12:39 PM
M, Monet St. Croix.

Genesis 1.0
08-03-2006, 01:27 PM
Monet, for all the abilities she posseses above, especially the fact that she can pick up on mutant auras, which means this wouldn't be a surprise attack, she'd already know ahead of Firestar. Too much hanging over the Microwave Mutie.

Monet

incubat
08-03-2006, 01:53 PM
can she heat up tacos?

Bastila
08-03-2006, 02:02 PM
Monet

incubat
08-03-2006, 02:09 PM
i know "monet" but can she heat up tacos?

Hellstormer
08-03-2006, 03:09 PM
i know "monet" but can she heat up tacos?
Yea she can rub her hands together really fast then grab a taco causing it to heat up :p

incubat
08-03-2006, 03:24 PM
wow...then she's the one

Garbage Man
08-03-2006, 06:15 PM
Firestar

BookWorm
08-03-2006, 06:41 PM
M for sure

vindrow
08-03-2006, 07:39 PM
I like Firestar, but Monet would take her out pretty quickly.

Phaedrus45
08-03-2006, 07:42 PM
Monet

Sparta*
08-03-2006, 08:26 PM
Monet Wins, next match-up shortly...

Sparta*
08-03-2006, 08:29 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg



RED SKULL
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/RedSkull3.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


NICK FURY
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/NickFury.jpg

Sloth7d
08-03-2006, 08:34 PM
Double Ko!

bcd90
08-03-2006, 08:34 PM
I say Nick Fury

Hellstormer
08-03-2006, 08:45 PM
Nick Fury

CanaryFan
08-03-2006, 09:23 PM
Red Skull

Iceman/Psylocke
08-03-2006, 09:26 PM
Hmmm Red Skull assuming Fury is without help.

Sparta*
08-03-2006, 09:29 PM
Neither combatant has help

Exploding Boy
08-03-2006, 09:37 PM
Red Skull

supermarvelman
08-03-2006, 10:00 PM
How'bout

Hawkeye vs Bulleye

The Cleric
08-03-2006, 10:12 PM
the skull, he has the serum n is ruthless

1987olds442
08-03-2006, 10:27 PM
Nick Fury

trustyside-kick
08-03-2006, 10:27 PM
Edit.

trustyside-kick
08-03-2006, 10:28 PM
Red Skull

Rellings
08-03-2006, 10:32 PM
Fury.

The Cleric
08-03-2006, 10:32 PM
red skull is also...Freakin scary lookin'

Iceman/Psylocke
08-03-2006, 10:39 PM
Neither combatant has help:up: Fury without the use of his contacts in SHIELD, govts, underground etc is not the same deal.

Hellstormer
08-03-2006, 11:18 PM
How'bout

Hawkeye vs Bulleye
Well since I recently came into possession of WCA 1-55 (excluding #8:mad:) I've noticed that Clint is quite the hand to hand combatant (maybe even at Conner Hawkes level) but since Bullseye can use anything i think that would be a good fight.

Anubis
08-03-2006, 11:34 PM
The Skull

Vanguard07
08-03-2006, 11:49 PM
I'm goin with Fury. He's a skilled enough to hold his own and unlike Cap he'll fight dirty. He's also a brilliant strategist and proficient in the use of weapons
Unlike Cap Fury'd bust a cap in the Skull's scabby red ass.

KevanG
08-03-2006, 11:59 PM
I also say Colonel Fury. Cap just doen't fight dirty and Fury's been fighting dirty since he was Junior cub scout mild irritation :D

Anubis
08-04-2006, 12:10 AM
Yeah, but we're not talking about Cap, we're talking about the Red Skull, whose got all of Cap's abilites, and you KNOW he fights dirty.

KevanG
08-04-2006, 12:34 AM
I know, I'm saying that Fury will fight like the skull, no holds barred, while cap is too honorable to do that.

incubat
08-04-2006, 01:52 AM
nick fury, 'cause he's david hasselhof

BrolyKnight
08-04-2006, 03:12 AM
red skull

Slim31
08-04-2006, 03:18 AM
Nick Fury is just too smart and too experienced for the Skull, he might have Caps cloned body but it doesn't mean he got his skills. Nick will have him fighting LMDs before Skull realizes it, then it's good night nazi scum

Iceman/Psylocke
08-04-2006, 03:20 AM
This is looking like a good match up. About time we had a close one :up:

Apprentice
08-04-2006, 05:46 AM
Nick Fury.

Sparta*
08-04-2006, 06:09 AM
This is looking like a good match up. About time we had a close one :up:

:( :(

3dman27
08-04-2006, 06:46 AM
I'm goin with Fury. He's a skilled enough to hold his own and unlike Cap he'll fight dirty. He's also a brilliant strategist and proficient in the use of weapons
Unlike Cap Fury'd bust a cap in the Skull's scabby red ass.
ihear that
big nick

The_Vision
08-04-2006, 07:48 AM
Nick

BookWorm
08-04-2006, 01:18 PM
Fury

The Cleric
08-04-2006, 01:40 PM
i know ya think that fury is dirty...or would do what cap wouldnt. but his "dirtiness" doesnt even compare to the skull, who is an exceptional fighter, and has the super soldier serum running in him. he is more durable, and is pretty good marksman. nothing special, but enough to shoot nick fury.

The Cleric
08-04-2006, 01:43 PM
oh yeah, nick used to fight a lot, havent seen that in years, so he might be rusty

Phaedrus45
08-04-2006, 02:41 PM
Red Skull

Sparta*
08-05-2006, 06:46 AM
13 - 8 is the final tally for Nick Fury

Sparta*
08-05-2006, 06:49 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


APOCALYPSE
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Apocalypse.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


K A N G
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Kang.jpg

Red X
08-05-2006, 06:54 AM
Apocalypse

CanaryFan
08-05-2006, 06:55 AM
Kang

Silicon Surfer
08-05-2006, 06:56 AM
Apocalypse. He is personally more powerful,smarter,and also has advanced technology.

The_Vision
08-05-2006, 07:50 AM
Apocalypse

3dman27
08-05-2006, 07:58 AM
kang the conqueror

Apprentice
08-05-2006, 09:15 AM
Apocalypse.

hippy fascist
08-05-2006, 09:27 AM
Apocalypse

Iceman/Psylocke
08-05-2006, 09:32 AM
Poc

:( I was exaggerating. :up: :woot: :sym: :ninja: :sym: :woot:

1987olds442
08-05-2006, 09:38 AM
Kang

Colossal Spoons
08-05-2006, 12:19 PM
Apoc

Rellings
08-05-2006, 12:36 PM
Apocalypse.

incubat
08-05-2006, 01:18 PM
i don't know much about kang, but i allways wanted to be apocalypse, imagine...he feared nothing

Exploding Boy
08-05-2006, 02:37 PM
Apoc sucks real bad.

Kang

Slim31
08-05-2006, 02:39 PM
As much as I dislike Apocalpyse right now, He'll whip Kangs ass

incubat
08-05-2006, 02:46 PM
but it's not who do you think kicks whos ass, it's who would yo want to be

Slim31
08-05-2006, 02:48 PM
yeah and I still take Apocalypse. smart, powerful and feared

incubat
08-05-2006, 02:57 PM
yeahp

incubat
08-05-2006, 02:59 PM
can someone please tell me how to put up an avvy?

CanaryFan
08-05-2006, 03:03 PM
but it's not who do you think kicks whos ass, it's who would yo want to be

NO, this is the VS thread not the who would you want to be thread.

CanaryFan
08-05-2006, 03:05 PM
oops

CanaryFan
08-05-2006, 03:09 PM
can someone please tell me how to put up an avvy?

Well for starters you need to have 300 posts. When you get there you will find an edit avatar option on your user control panel. Then you can put up a little dinky avatar like mine that can barely be seen but someday when you have a lot more post you will be able to add an avatar that isn't a waste of time putting up.

KevanG
08-05-2006, 04:22 PM
Or you can use something like mine:D Anyway, even though Kang could bounce back in time to before Pocky was powerful, I still pick Apoc. because 1 on 1 fight Pocky will beat down Kang eventually.

incubat
08-05-2006, 04:41 PM
Well for starters you need to have 300 posts. When you get there you will find an edit avatar option on your user control panel. Then you can put up a little dinky avatar like mine that can barely be seen but someday when you have a lot more post you will be able to add an avatar that isn't a waste of time putting up.

someone told me it was 200 posts...*kicks can* ok..i'll get there soon.

Artistsean
08-05-2006, 04:42 PM
Kang,
he would just travel back in time and keep Apocalypse from being born or kill him in his youth, or raise him to be an apprentis or something.

incubat
08-05-2006, 04:42 PM
NO, this is the VS thread not the who would you want to be thread.

oops....well, i still chose apoc, he kicks ass

The Cleric
08-05-2006, 04:51 PM
incubat its 500 post, i just learn... i got 70-something to go. oh, i think kang could beat him, if he was smarter about it. the dude time travels. time is the ultimate weapon! In rise of apocalypse, kang failed. but i think he could beat him. so, since he pretty much lost already, i vote for kang

CrypticOne
08-05-2006, 05:01 PM
Apocalypse

CanaryFan
08-05-2006, 06:16 PM
incubat its 500 post, i just learn... i got 70-something to go.

Look to the left. I have 380 post and an avatar.

Sloth7d
08-05-2006, 06:31 PM
Apoc

trustyside-kick
08-05-2006, 06:32 PM
Apocalypse

Zoken
08-05-2006, 06:53 PM
isn't Pocky's mutant power to absorb and control any technology he comes into contact with? I give this to Pocky either way.

Anubis
08-05-2006, 06:58 PM
Apocalypse I guess.

rodhulk
08-05-2006, 07:50 PM
Apocalypse.

incubat
08-05-2006, 10:27 PM
Look to the left. I have 380 post and an avatar.
yeah, thougt something was wrong there, still thx cleric

Silver Sable
08-05-2006, 11:34 PM
Apocalypse

Silicon Surfer
08-06-2006, 12:53 AM
Kang,
he would just travel back in time and keep Apocalypse from being born or kill him in his youth, or raise him to be an apprentis or something.

Apocalypse, knowing he is from the future could obtain a dna sample and thus find and kill one of his ancestors in the present. That would prevent Kang from ever being born without time travel.

Zoken
08-06-2006, 12:58 AM
um... maybe this is a stupid idea, but has the possiblity ever been explored that Apocalypse IS Kang? I mean, perhaps some malfunction occured in his time travel systems toward what ws supposed to be the end of his life. It artificually activated the latent X-gene, and the whole baby things is something his now time and mutation deluded mind made up... the ultimate retcon!

Sloth7d
08-06-2006, 12:58 AM
If you count that one version of apocalypes, well he can time travel too.

Silicon Surfer
08-06-2006, 01:03 AM
um... maybe this is a stupid idea, but has the possiblity ever been explored that Apocalypse IS Kang? I mean, perhaps some malfunction occured in his time travel systems toward what ws supposed to be the end of his life. It artificually activated the latent X-gene, and the whole baby things is something his now time and mutation deluded mind made up... the ultimate retcon!

They have told the story of Apocalypse and his origin as En Sabah Nur back in ancient Egypt. So Kang can't be Apocalypse but it's possible I suppose that Apocalypse is Kang.

Zoken
08-06-2006, 01:11 AM
Well the only real witness to Apocalypse's origins is Apocalypse himself. this origin he has talked about can be easily written off as a delusion induced when his brain got addled by the last time travel accident or his unnatural mutation.

Sloth7d
08-06-2006, 01:12 AM
Hooray for retcons.:o

Bastila
08-06-2006, 09:31 AM
Apocalpyse

Sparta*
08-06-2006, 03:51 PM
Apocalypse wins!

Sparta*
08-06-2006, 03:53 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


CABLE
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Cable.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


DEADPOOL
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Deadpool.jpg

Sparta*
08-06-2006, 03:53 PM
***THIS IS CABLE CIRCA MID 90'S***

:up:

trustyside-kick
08-06-2006, 03:55 PM
Deadpool.

Sloth7d
08-06-2006, 03:57 PM
Sparta's avatar.

Colossal Spoons
08-06-2006, 04:01 PM
Hm, a match we very well may see in the upcoming months. I still need som more time to think.

Silicon Surfer
08-06-2006, 04:06 PM
Cable, not only did he have psi powers, he carried weapons so huge that Deadpool would give himself a hernia just trying to pick one up.

The_Vision
08-06-2006, 04:35 PM
Cable

hippy fascist
08-06-2006, 04:42 PM
Cable is practically all powerfull! He's a Jesus metaphor.

Deadpool's just a wise ass with a healing factor. Albeit a VERY funny wise ass

Gotta be cable

Vanguard07
08-06-2006, 05:58 PM
Cable. He's as skilled as Deadpool even without his powers. With his powers OR with his technological analogues he could take Wade.

Exploding Boy
08-06-2006, 06:08 PM
Cable

Colossal Spoons
08-06-2006, 06:13 PM
Cable is practically all powerfull! He's a Jesus metaphor.

Deadpool's just a wise ass with a healing factor. Albeit a VERY funny wise ass

Gotta be cable

Wel, this was Cable pre-Jesus powers.


P.S."Wait, there's a black Stormy" :D

hippy fascist
08-06-2006, 07:02 PM
Wel, this was Cable pre-Jesus powers.


P.S."Wait, there's a black Stormy" :D

Gotta read the specifics more carefully

Just watched Bizarro! Genius

BIZARRO Murphy:Give us the destructo beam or suffer the bizarro
consequences
Quinn:uh, we already gave it to you, it's in your truck

:D:up:

Iceman/Psylocke
08-06-2006, 07:25 PM
Great book

I've got to go with Cable when it comes down tot he serious business.

X_fan08
08-06-2006, 08:08 PM
What about psylocke vs. sage

vindrow
08-06-2006, 09:27 PM
Cable's psi powers give him a big edge here...so I gotta go with him.

Silver Sable
08-06-2006, 11:17 PM
Cable

Sparta*
08-06-2006, 11:33 PM
I'm so glad Cable is winning :D

I'll throw in another vote for him :up:

incubat
08-06-2006, 11:58 PM
i'll vote deadpool just for fun, he makes me laugh

Rellings
08-07-2006, 12:13 AM
Cable.

Colossal Spoons
08-07-2006, 12:48 AM
i'll vote deadpool just for fun, he makes me laugh

Fantastic




:(

Zoken
08-07-2006, 12:51 AM
Deadpool because Friggin' nuts beats damn powerful anyday.

Sloth7d
08-07-2006, 12:53 AM
:confused:

Colossal Spoons
08-07-2006, 12:59 AM
This reasoning is awesome.

incubat
08-07-2006, 01:01 AM
beign irrational is way better than being rational, 'cause you don't have to justify your behavior anymore (just as long you don't hurt anybody)

Colossal Spoons
08-07-2006, 01:02 AM
I guess so. If only there were a way to split the votes between serious voters and the silly ones.

incubat
08-07-2006, 01:06 AM
ok...i have to admit this vote was silly, but aside it being a place to show who us readers think would win in a fight, it's also supposed to be a space to have fun:up: :)

Colossal Spoons
08-07-2006, 01:11 AM
I find great "fun" in fiding out who people think would win in a "fight"

2 birds

1 stone.

incubat
08-07-2006, 01:17 AM
hmm...we'll just have to agree to disagree, but i respect your opinion, and if it's really that important to you, you can not count my vote, i have to admit i don't know anything about cable anyway.
all my other votes have been serious thou if that helps

Colossal Spoons
08-07-2006, 01:20 AM
Not my thread, don't let me ruin your fun. Thanks for the other serious posts though :)


BTW, why does the :) smiley just stink of sarcasm? Everytime I post it, I feel like the person I'm talking to is gonna think I'm being a dick. lol

incubat
08-07-2006, 01:22 AM
now let's hug and be friends:) haha or we can just shake hands, whatever you want, haha lol, well, gotta go, have fun posting

Sparta*
08-07-2006, 02:18 AM
Sparta's avatar.

Not anymore ;)

Colossal Spoons
08-07-2006, 02:19 AM
Boo, you condone the Namor/Sue infidelity. You're a bad man.

Sparta*
08-07-2006, 02:21 AM
haha not really, I just thought the picture was cool :p I always found Namor's and Sue's relationship intriguing though...but I don't condone it. Mister Fantastic is one of my fave super heroes :up: After civil war though, I don't think there will be a Mr. and Mrs. Richards :down so my avatar might just be a foreboding of things to come...

Colossal Spoons
08-07-2006, 02:22 AM
Just a lover's spat. They'll fight, make up, and be together for all eternity. You'll see.

Sparta*
08-07-2006, 02:24 AM
Just a lover's spat. They'll fight, make up, and be together for all eternity. You'll see.

I hope so man...I really do. At least having Namor on the side keeps things interesting. Every person has a wild side and I guess Reed just can't fulfill that desire for Sue :p

Colossal Spoons
08-07-2006, 02:25 AM
He can stretch to 50 feet. She'd better be damn "fulfilled". :p

Sparta*
08-07-2006, 02:27 AM
He can stretch to 50 feet. She'd better be damn "fulfilled". :p

BAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! that was awesome lol You rule Colossal Spoons :up: :up: :p

I guess mind-blowing sex isn't enough for some people...they need desire as well :dew:

Sloth7d
08-07-2006, 02:37 AM
Not anymore ;)
Aw boo.
I vote cable then.:mad:

Kmack
08-07-2006, 02:42 AM
Cable

Toby_Temple
08-07-2006, 02:48 AM
Cable. Both are good hand-to-hand combatants but Cable has mental abilities giving him an advantage against Deadpool.

Sparta*
08-07-2006, 05:23 AM
13 - 3 for Cable so far...

BookWorm
08-07-2006, 01:12 PM
Cable

Sparta*
08-07-2006, 05:43 PM
14 - 3 is the final tally for Cable

Sparta*
08-07-2006, 05:45 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


SPIDER-MAN
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Spider-man3.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


THING
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Thing2.jpg

Vanguard07
08-07-2006, 05:49 PM
Hmmmm.... interesting one.

I'm going with Spiderman. At 16 he fought and beat the entire FF.
He's improved a hell of a lot since then. (So has the Thing of course) So i think he can manage beating just one of them.

theoneandonly
08-07-2006, 05:50 PM
i have to go for spidy same reason as above really

im back sparta

Sparta*
08-07-2006, 05:51 PM
Yeah, he "beat" the X-men as well, but there is always a catch in those scenarios. It's not usually an all-out brawl, and he usually wins on a technicality lol.

Sparta*
08-07-2006, 05:51 PM
i have to go for spidy same reason as above really

im back sparta

Hey! Whats up man? I posted in your Queens of the Stoneage thread :) :up: They rule

theoneandonly
08-07-2006, 05:52 PM
oh yeah thats true

but lets no spam :up: lol

Colossal Spoons
08-07-2006, 05:56 PM
Whoa, I don't see Spidey beatign Ben at all. It'd take him 3 days to spin enough webbing to restrict Ben's movement as Ben's kinda super strong. If Cap gave Spidey a good up close fight in the last ASM, then Thing would squash him. If he tried the far away assault thing, Ben wouldn't have to do much but wait for him to get tired.

I vote a loud resounding THING!

CrypticOne
08-07-2006, 06:00 PM
I see Spidey outsmarting Thing.

My Vote - Spider-Man

Sparta*
08-07-2006, 06:01 PM
Ben's not a big lumbering retard...he has quite a good head on his shoulders.

Colossal Spoons
08-07-2006, 06:04 PM
I see Spidey outsmarting Thing.

My Vote - Spider-Man

Ok....he still has to beat him after that. Unless he tricks him into punching himself in the face; THING takes this one.

Silver Sable
08-07-2006, 06:27 PM
Benny

CanaryFan
08-07-2006, 07:04 PM
I'll go with Spidey. He is always out smarting powerhouse types. Bens nothing but strength.

trustyside-kick
08-07-2006, 07:08 PM
Spider-Man.

bcd90
08-07-2006, 07:26 PM
Apocalypse

The Punisher
08-07-2006, 07:29 PM
^ He's not part of this. :confused:

The Punisher
08-07-2006, 07:30 PM
My vote Spider-Man.

The Cleric
08-07-2006, 08:44 PM
i go with spidey, because the thing is yella

Vanguard07
08-07-2006, 08:50 PM
more orange really

The Cleric
08-07-2006, 08:51 PM
i say yella, cuz it gives me a better reason for him ta lose

ookami
08-07-2006, 09:22 PM
Spidey

Colossal Spoons
08-07-2006, 10:30 PM
i say yella, cuz it gives me a better reason for him ta lose

...you think Ben's afraid of Peter?

Hahaha

Iceman/Psylocke
08-07-2006, 10:35 PM
Spidey should win this.

supermarvelman
08-07-2006, 11:16 PM
Peter Parker

VS

Ben Reily

1987olds442
08-07-2006, 11:55 PM
Ben (Thing)

incubat
08-08-2006, 12:20 AM
spidey, he beated the FF in his first days as a hero, and he was only 16 then, now his got a whole lot more experience on him, as does ben, but spidey could beat one of them still, couldn't he?, in any case, ben is to slow to catch and hurt spidey, spidey would have to trip or something, and besides the thing being slow, spidey has his spidersense, so, that's an advantage for him...anyway, my vote goes for peter parker, the spiderman

Toby_Temple
08-08-2006, 01:20 AM
Ben is strong and tough but not in par with someone like Thor or Hulk. Peter is smart enough to know that he can't fight Ben fist to fist, so his wits is in play here which is alot better than Ben. Peter is also strong enough to hurl large objects to Ben as a distraction as he prepares his plan against Thing. That's why I'll vote for Spider-Man. :)

Silicon Surfer
08-08-2006, 01:39 AM
Peter has already horribly outclassed Titania who is in the same strength class as the Thing and even more durable. He punched out Crusher Creel at the same time and Creel doesn't hesitate to go toe to toe with Thor. Even working together against Spidey he terrified them. I don't think that Ben would ever even really be in the fight although he would take a really bad beating before he went down just on sheer stubborness. Peter has already proven repeatedly that he can defeat people in Bens strength class even on just raw physical ability.

Exploding Boy
08-08-2006, 02:06 AM
I'll vote for Ben.

Cool spidey pic

Toby_Temple
08-08-2006, 02:08 AM
I don't know, Silicon, but I think the writers are exaggerating Spidey's physical prowess.

Slim31
08-08-2006, 02:10 AM
I'll take Petey cause he's funnier and doesn't say corny **** like "it's clobbering time"

Silicon Surfer
08-08-2006, 02:30 AM
I don't know, Silicon, but I think the writers are exaggerating Spidey's physical prowess.


At least they're consistant about it then because they have had him do it on multiple occasions. He's punched out Titania on at least 2 occasions, plus Firelord. He also engaged the Thing briefly when he tried to join the FF back in the beginning. Peter effortlessly handled Ben at that time although of course the fight was stopped before there was a victory.

Toby_Temple
08-08-2006, 02:42 AM
Its just this. Ben could probably take a direct hit from a running train. The same thing cannot be said to Peter. You don't see Peter use his body to stop a running truck or burst straight through a concrete wall all the time. He won't even survive being hit by a rocket. But Ben could. So I don't see any reason that Spidey could seriously hurt Thing with his own strength.

Silicon Surfer
08-08-2006, 03:03 AM
Spidey hits a lot harder than his lifting strenght would suggest due to the fact that his punches travel faster than a person with normal speed would be capable of. The force of the punch increases with the increase in speed. This means that while as of this contest The Thing is 8.5x as strong, Spidey probably hits as hard if not harder. I believe the relevant equation is F=m(v squared) although after all these years its a wonder I remember that. I'll leave it up to somebody else to apply the equation if they feel up to it. It would probably be a pain to work out accurately.

Toby_Temple
08-08-2006, 03:16 AM
I don't see Spider-Man hitting harder than a speeding truck or a speeding bullet.

Silicon Surfer
08-08-2006, 03:23 AM
When you consider that he can lift and throw trucks, he probably does hit that hard. His punches certainly have more kinetic energy than a speeding bullet.

Toby_Temple
08-08-2006, 03:46 AM
Not necessarily. And Spider-Man is not that tough enough not to get hurt when punching someone tougher than a speeding bullet. Imagine Peter punching a speeding bullet. He'll get himself hurt pretty badly. Thing is that tough or even tougher, capable of surviving one of Hulk's unrelenting blows. So I'm still not convince that Spider-Man could hurt Thing with his punches.

Human Spidey
08-08-2006, 04:04 AM
Spider-man. I mean he still should be able to knock the Thing over with his punches, because Thing weighs like half a ton, and Spidey can punch with a force of about 15-20 tons. Plus combined with Spidey's agility there will be lots of punches in a short amount of time. But Thing would only have to get 1 powerful punch, however i think Spider-man is definetely skilled and quick enough to dodge them.

But to win he would probably have to trap him down a hole or use his wits. Spider-man.

Toby_Temple
08-08-2006, 04:16 AM
Spider-man. I mean he still should be able to knock the Thing over with his punches, because Thing weighs like half a ton, and Spidey can punch with a force of about 15-20 tons. Plus combined with Spidey's agility there will be lots of punches in a short amount of time. But Thing would only have to get 1 powerful punch, however i think Spider-man is definetely skilled and quick enough to dodge them.

But to win he would probably have to trap him down a hole or use his wits. Spider-man.
Thing can take a 20 ton bus rammed at him. That means he can take more than 20 tons. Remember, he already went toe-to-toe with the Hulk and lived to tell the tale. And Thing does not move like a turtle. So Spidey needs to use his wits to definitely win.

Ahura Mazda
08-08-2006, 05:14 AM
Well to be honest my logic tells me spiderman should never be able to punch the Thing because if he did he would break all the bones in his arm, given he does not have the durability.

However based on previous comics, and Spiderman's feats he probably would win so i give it to him.

Midnight Ice
08-08-2006, 06:04 AM
The Thing:xmen:

Apprentice
08-08-2006, 06:17 AM
Spidey takes it.

3dman27
08-08-2006, 06:21 AM
the ever loving blue eyed THING:thing: :thing:

The_Vision
08-08-2006, 06:45 AM
:thing: Thing:thing:

Silicon Surfer
08-08-2006, 06:49 AM
Spidey has superhumanly tough bones and muscles to cope with his enhanced strenghth otherwise they would give out when he exerted himself. Since he has repeatedly punched people like Titania and Firelord who are more durable than the Thing it is a given that he can punch the less durable Thing without harm. Since he has knocked out these more durable individuals then it is also a given that he has the capability to do so to the Thing. The question is will he.

Bastila
08-08-2006, 07:22 AM
Spidey

hippy fascist
08-08-2006, 07:52 AM
Spidey would tire him out. When looking at a real fight always keep and eye on the small wirey guy rather than the big lunk. Maneuverability and speed are key to this. My jiu jitsu coach always used to say that even bruce lee was too muscular and that this was just for show, to be at peak fighting ability it is necessary to be slim and flexible, too much muscle just ties you up and slows you down. Spidey would be ducking & weaving all over the place with his spider-sense kicking off. Yes, If thing hit him it would probably leave spidey catatonic for a week, but I just don't think bens got the speed. Not only that but ben wouldn't beat on a friend but as civil war has shown us spidey basically has no morals anymore and will smack the **** out of anyone his ***** overlord stark tells him to :(

hippy fascist
08-08-2006, 08:11 AM
arghh..double post

Apprentice
08-08-2006, 08:53 AM
But the second post is 19 minutes later than the first, isn't it?

3dman27
08-08-2006, 09:10 AM
...you think Ben's afraid of Peter?

Hahaha
i think he means ben leaving the u.s.during civil war

hippy fascist
08-08-2006, 09:15 AM
But the second post is 19 minutes later than the first, isn't it?

The back button combined with random clicking can be a terrible thing

PaleRider
08-08-2006, 03:55 PM
The Thing

KevanG
08-08-2006, 04:03 PM
Since Spider-man stopped Juggernaut for a bit by using his brain, I don't think the Thing would be too much more for him to take down. He couldn't use the same tactics as he did on the juggernaut because he'd kill Ben but he'd find some way, after all he's been taking down bigger, stronger and faster guys for years and he's still around.

Mistress Gluon
08-08-2006, 04:06 PM
Since Spider-man stopped Juggernaut for a bit by using his brain, I don't think the Thing would be too much more for him to take down. He couldn't use the same tactics as he did on the juggernaut because he'd kill Ben but he'd find some way, after all he's been taking down bigger, stronger and faster guys for years and he's still around.

Just how many (and who) bigger faster guys are we talking about?

Shang-Chi
08-08-2006, 04:14 PM
Spider-Man.

KevanG
08-08-2006, 04:59 PM
Spider-man's fought people like Speed-demon, he's fought super-villains like the basic Spidey rogues - Lizard, Sandman, Venom, and others not to mention taking down some other guys like the wrecking crew and titania (Secret wars). Need any more?

incubat
08-08-2006, 05:28 PM
venom

KevanG
08-08-2006, 05:58 PM
venom


Where did that come from?

ssj wolverine
08-08-2006, 06:10 PM
Mr. Clobbering time is a lumbering idiot. Spiderman would have an easy time with him.

K4tzm4n
08-08-2006, 07:36 PM
Spid3r m4n

The Leaguer
08-08-2006, 07:37 PM
The Thing is borderline mentally retarded.

Spidey wins.

Mistress Gluon
08-08-2006, 07:39 PM
Spid3r m4n

You just made me vote for the Thing.

The Punisher
08-08-2006, 07:42 PM
^ What Mistress said.

bcd90
08-08-2006, 07:50 PM
Thing

kytrigger
08-08-2006, 08:06 PM
The Thing. Spidey is smarter than him, but that doesn't mean that Ben isn't a smart guy. While he might not be a genius, he has fought Spidey before and knows how to effectively fight him, and if there is one thing that Ben is really smart at, it how to fight people.

Colossal Spoons
08-08-2006, 08:08 PM
Spid3r m4n

2.5 brain cells, down the drain.

The Chibi Kiriyama
08-08-2006, 08:26 PM
Spider-Man; The Thing has the smarts that the Hulk doesn't have and enough power to match him when he's calm, but Spider-Man has faced tougher challenges and is much more intelligent than both put together. Peter's proven again and again that size means nothing in a true battle, and if they ever fought I think Spider-Man would have the advantage. Even if the Thing has fought him before, he hasn't fought the recently-enhanced version...

...Yup. I finally found a reason to thank Quesada.

Sparta*
08-08-2006, 08:28 PM
The characters in this tournament are at the power levels shown in the cards unless otherwise stated. That means this is regular Peter Parker, not the recently enchanced version.

The Leaguer
08-08-2006, 08:29 PM
I vote for the recently-enhanced version.

The Chibi Kiriyama
08-08-2006, 08:36 PM
The characters in this tournament are at the power levels shown in the cards unless otherwise stated. That means this is regular Peter Parker, not the recently enchanced version.

Dang...well, either way my vote stands. I find the classic version to be the more inventive of the two anyways.

Sparta*
08-08-2006, 08:37 PM
Dang...well, either way my vote stands. I find the classic version to be the more inventive of the two anyways.

Okay :D :up:

Anubis
08-08-2006, 09:44 PM
I'm gonna go with Thing.

Midnight Ice
08-08-2006, 09:50 PM
I vote for the recently-enhanced version.
What part of "The characters in this tournament are at the power levels shown in the cards unless otherwise stated. That means this is regular Peter Parker, not the recently enchanced version" was hard to understand?:xmen:

Rellings
08-08-2006, 10:04 PM
Spidey.

Colossal Spoons
08-08-2006, 10:23 PM
What part of "The characters in this tournament are at the power levels shown in the cards unless otherwise stated. That means this is regular Peter Parker, not the recently enchanced version" was hard to understand?:xmen:

Leaguer's had a long day, it's ok :p

Toby_Temple
08-08-2006, 10:30 PM
^ Still, Leaguer's vote would not count. Or does it, Sparta?

Sparta*
08-09-2006, 12:04 AM
^ Still, Leaguer's vote would not count. Or does it, Sparta?

He originally voted for 'Spidey' so i'll count it.

Toby_Temple
08-09-2006, 12:12 AM
^ can you please bring back the old you-need-to-explain-your-vote rule? :)

Sparta*
08-09-2006, 12:16 AM
^ can you please bring back the old you-need-to-explain-your-vote rule? :)

I'd like to man, but not enough people responded to it

A lot of people explain their votes as it is, and you are free to do so whenever you desire :up:

kytrigger
08-09-2006, 12:16 AM
^ can you please bring back the old you-need-to-explain-your-vote rule? :)

TECHNICALLY , he did explain his vote. He said the Thing is borderline mentally retarded...:p

Toby_Temple
08-09-2006, 12:19 AM
I mean will you impose it again? :)

Sparta*
08-09-2006, 12:32 AM
I mean will you impose it again? :)

Who knows what the future has in store...but for the time being, no. Sorry dude :(

Toby_Temple
08-09-2006, 12:43 AM
:mad: don't blame me for trying.......... :o

Sparta*
08-09-2006, 12:46 AM
No worries man :up: :)

kytrigger
08-09-2006, 12:50 AM
While I agree that it would be great if everyone would put their reasoning behind their votes, AND their wouldn't only be like 6 votes per match, I still take solace in the fact that if I still put up a good argument, I can persuade people to vote for my character on that reasoning and maybe take some of the total bias/laziness/whatever out of the matches.

Colossal Spoons
08-09-2006, 01:30 AM
1. Sparta tried it. It was called "The New Rule"

2. It caused voter turnout to drop like 90%

3. Sparta abolished it.

What did we learn here? Posting explantions is too "hard" for the majority of us :(

Toby_Temple
08-09-2006, 01:34 AM
^coz maybe majority of us can't think of a good explanantion?

Colossal Spoons
08-09-2006, 01:35 AM
Bingo.

Popularity > Logic

Sparta*
08-09-2006, 01:41 AM
Bingo.

Popularity > Logic

Not all the time, but in this case...yes :p

Colossal Spoons
08-09-2006, 01:43 AM
Yeah. I always have to play the "Historian" of this thread when somebody suggests "The New Rule" again :D

Sparta*
08-09-2006, 01:45 AM
lol :D you can be the official 'Marvel Comics Character Tournament' historian :p

21 - 13 is the final tally for Spider-man

Sparta*
08-09-2006, 01:47 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


BLACK CAT
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/BlackCat2.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

SILVER SABLE
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/SilverSable.jpg

Toby_Temple
08-09-2006, 02:03 AM
Black Cat. She can jinx Silver Sable and then attack her everytime she experiences bad luck.

Slim31
08-09-2006, 02:10 AM
Black Cat, that bad luck of hers should come in handy

Colossal Spoons
08-09-2006, 02:25 AM
lol :D you can be the official 'Marvel Comics Character Tournament' historian :p

21 - 13 is the final tally for Spider-man

I'll spew out trivial information whenever I'm needed, sir! Heh

Exploding Boy
08-09-2006, 02:54 AM
Black Cat. Stronger, faster, more agile and the Bad Luck effects

Silicon Surfer
08-09-2006, 04:59 AM
Black Cat is simply too superior physically.

Red X
08-09-2006, 05:02 AM
SABLE. Cat is useless she needs Spidey around just to keep her alive and add to the fact taht Sable is way more experianced.

Harlekin
08-09-2006, 05:25 AM
Sable. More experience.

Sparta*
08-09-2006, 05:25 AM
4 - 2 for Black Cat so far

Midnight Ice
08-09-2006, 05:59 AM
This is a hard one for me. I don't know too much about Sable, but from what I do know I would say that Silver Sable would win.:xmen:

Bastila
08-09-2006, 06:17 AM
Silver Sable

hippy fascist
08-09-2006, 06:20 AM
I don't care but I want that video! :D

CanaryFan
08-09-2006, 06:31 AM
^ can you please bring back the old you-need-to-explain-your-vote rule? :)

I vote Black Cat cuase Jusko art makes her look 10 times hotter than Sable






















J/K, I picture these two even in fighting but I guess they added this jinx thing to BC's character so I give her the edge.

CrypticOne
08-09-2006, 06:41 AM
I have to go with Black Cat.

Sparta*
08-09-2006, 07:11 AM
6 - 4 for the Black Cat so far...

16,000 posts :up: woot woot

The_Vision
08-09-2006, 07:24 AM
Silver Sable

3dman27
08-09-2006, 07:36 AM
SILVER SABLE
[IMG]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/SilverSable.jpg
a friend of mine on the hype takes this one
silver takes the gold medal in this bout