Marvel Comics Character Tournament!!!

[Sparta*]

Apocalypse would go through the Avengers like they were a Brownie troop, Thor included.

...really? I've never been sure of Apocalypse's max power, but this seems like a bit of a stretch.

[CanaryFan]

...really? I've never been sure of Apocalypse's max power, but this seems like a bit of a stretch.

A long, long, long stretch!

[Exploding Boy]

Apoc is one of the lames most overrated villans ever

[Silicon Surfer]

Officially Apocalypse is in the class 100 strength level to start out and can augment his strength to even greater levels. His agility is in the same category with Spider Man and his reflexes almost as fast. He can increase his size and mass and converts his arms to shields and weapons in battle. He has held off Colossus, who is himself in Thors class in strength, as well as Rogue at the same time without noticable exertion. Rogue while still with the Brotherhood took Thors power easily along I believe with others but has found Apocalypse' power to be too great to absorb. Most of the Avengers fight solo with relatively direct tactics. This sort of battle is Apocalypse sort of battle and he does very well at it since he is invariably larger,stronger, and has superior reach he hits first and more often while remaining largely out of reach. Ranged attacks are usually energy which never shows any effect and are presumably absorbed.

[X_fan08]

Thors a god. isnt that too great as well?

[Anubis]

Colossus and Rogue are nowhere near Thor's strength level. Not even Combined. But theres more to Apoc than simple brute strength. Hell, he handled Thor's brother pretty easily once.

[KevanG]

Apocalypse vs Thor 1-on-1 would be interesting. I have no idea who would win... If it was King Thor with the odin power then pocky would be toast but normal powered thor... It would be a good match.

[bkhedr]

Its a safe bet that Thor's strength exceeds Apocalypse's and he's got more experience than Nur (and not many people can say that)

Like most battles involving Thor the trump card is Mjolnir and or a godblast

no matter how you rate apocalypse he cant stand there and take the kind of punishment mjonir can dish out (not to mention Thor can whip up Storms that IMO are far greater than what Storm can do and should be sufficient to toast Apoc)

besides Apocalypse is uber lame

as for Silicon Surfer's comment

get real!

Apocalypse wouldnt stand a chance against say: Cap, Thor, Hercules, Iron Man, Ms Marvel, Wonderman and the Scarlet Witch

no chance in hell

[bkhedr]

unless its been done may I suggest the Avengers (classic/Busiek ones) against the X-men

[Silicon Surfer]

The indications in battle so far are that Apocalypse is far stronger than Thor or any other physical being other than cosmics. With his size and stretching ability he can pound on foes and knock them around without coming within range of attacks and can attack whole teams at the same time. Thors lightning being energy can be absorbed and used to increase Apocalypse's power as can the repulsor rays of Iron Man. With invulnerability and regeneration there is little that can be done that to hurt him in any significant way. He also can generate concussive blasts that are fairly powerful. With the ability to shape change he could create giant blades out of his arms and sweep them across a battle field faster than the human eye could see. Thors age being unknown it is possible that Apocalypse is older and more experianced than Thor.

[bkhedr]

The indications in battle so far are that Apocalypse is far stronger than Thor or any other physical being other than cosmics. With his size and stretching ability he can pound on foes and knock them around without coming within range of attacks and can attack whole teams at the same time. Thors lightning being energy can be absorbed and used to increase Apocalypse's power as can the repulsor rays of Iron Man. With invulnerability and regeneration there is little that can be done that to hurt him in any significant way. He also can generate concussive blasts that are fairly powerful. With the ability to shape change he could create giant blades out of his arms and sweep them across a battle field faster than the human eye could see. Thors age being unknown it is possible that Apocalypse is older and more experianced than Thor.


Let me begin by saying that not everything you read on wikipedia is true. Just because they say Apocalypse can do something or just because he did it just once doesnt mean he can.

For example you say he has super speed and reflexes. I for one have never seen him use those abilities.Ever. But I have seen Thor use super speed in the silver age.
As for Strength. Dude, Thor is stronger than Apocalypse. I think most people will agree. And so what if Apocalypse can grow? Thor has frost giants with class 100 strength for breakfast. That's Giants as in plural

Thor's godblast turned back Galactus. The same godblast that destroyed a pantheon of dark gods.

And 'fairly powerful' concussive blasts cant hold a candle to a bolt of anti-force fired from mjolnir. What's more you say Apocalypse is invulnerable when he is most definately not. Classic Juggernaut is invulnerable. Apocalypse maybe durable but I doubt he's durable as Thor.

Thor is near the top of the marvel foodchain. He's throws down with the Hulk and has beaten the Silver Surfer.

Apocalypse would be no problem.

[3dman27]

lets not forget this is thor vs BLACK BOLT
apocalyps has NOTHING to do with this:ninja:

[bkhedr]

lets not forget this is thor vs BLACK BOLT
apocalyps has NOTHING to do with this:ninja:

I already voted Black Bolt

i'm just off on a tangent :cwink:

[CanaryFan]

Colossus and Rogue are nowhere near Thor's strength level. Not even Combined. But theres more to Apoc than simple brute strength. Hell, he handled Thor's brother pretty easily once.

Which Brother was this? The average Asgardian male has a strength class of 40 tons where as Thor is 100 ton or over. His power far exceeds most Asgardians as well.

[bkhedr]

I figure Thor's base strength (guestimating) is around 125

I have no idea where Loki is at (i'm assuming the brother was Loki because I dont see why Vidar would fight Apocalypse)

[CanaryFan]

I figure Thor's base strength (guestimating) is around 125

I have no idea where Loki is at (i'm assuming the brother was Loki because I dont see why Vidar would fight Apocalypse)

Loki is in the typical 40 ton range, Vidar is half giant so his strength is a little more like 50 tons. Marvel rearly if ever mentions it but Balder is also supposed to be Thor's half brother. He's also in the 40 ton range.

[KevanG]

Meh my vote goes for Black Bolt, at least he's quiet. Thor talks too much. Besides if BB yodels Thors going down.

[Vanguard07]

Yup, thats what i'm talkin about. he obliterated freakin Apocolypse, and half of Wakanda, into vapor with a phrase. he could totally take Thor out, assuming somebody evacutates an entire city before he does it like BP did.

Actually it wasnt a phrase at all. It was stated later in that issue that it was just a single whispered syllable.

Now imagine if Black Bolt was rocking out.
the song Back in Black comes to mind.

[KevanG]

Thunderstruck also comes to mind :D

[Vanguard07]

lol... Man... Black Bolt... I hope attillan has Karaoke.

I wonder what his voice sounds like. Like assuming you were durable enough to actually have it register to your senses as more than just instant death.

[Midnight Ice]

Black Bolt:xmen:

[Anubis]

Loki is in the typical 40 ton range, Vidar is half giant so his strength is a little more like 50 tons. Marvel rearly if ever mentions it but Balder is also supposed to be Thor's half brother. He's also in the 40 ton range.

I was talking about the only Brother of Thor that matters, Loki. And like I said, just because a guy is physically weaker than another doesn't always mean s**t in a fight. We're talking about Loki. You know, the top shelf Asgardian Mage Loki? Yeah, that guy.

[Sloth7d]

Didn't the avengers defeat Onslaught, a deity who powers make apoc seem like a celestial tadpole?

Back on topic. I vote Thor.

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

Didn't the avengers defeat Onslaught, a deity who powers make apoc seem like a celestial tadpole?

Back on topic. I vote Thor.

Good point. In fact, Thor was one of the very Avengers to draw the first of the few great blows they dealt to Onslaught. Unless Apocalypse started the battle with some drastic power I can't see him calling immunity from a hit from Mjolnir.

[incubat]

Thunderstruck also comes to mind :D

lol, after all of this, i think i'll change my vote to black bolt

[Sparta*]

I'll vote for Black Bolt bringing the final tally to 18 - 14 for Thor

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


Q U A S A R
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Quasar.jpg




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp



BETA RAY BILL
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/BetaRayBill.jpg

[hippy fascist]

Bill would pwn quasar easily

[Sloth7d]

Beta Ray Bill?
The guy looks like an animalistic Thor.
Who is he?

[Colossal Spoons]

^Yeah, I know squat about BRB.

[Hellstormer]

Beta Ray Bill

[Anubis]

Beta Ray Bill?
The guy looks like an animalistic Thor.
Who is he?

^Yeah, I know squat about BRB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Ray_Bill

I don't know. I think Quasar might be able to pull this out.

[Sparta*]

2 - 1 for Beta Ray Bill so far...

[Sloth7d]

I like Beta Ray Bill in that other suit better.
Anyway, Quasar takes this.

[Toby_Temple]

I'm voting for Quasar.

And about the Apocalypse is nothing to Thor, think again. Thor could barely stop Juggernaut with the godforce while Apocalypse made someone capable of stopping him physically(WARHULK). But I do agree that Apocalypse would have a hard time fighting Thor without prep.

As for Thor vs Blackbolt, Blackbolt would win. Thor would be vapor if Blackbolt shouts at him.

[Silicon Surfer]

Beta Ray Bill. Last I knew the quantum bands had an upper limit that could not be exceeded without disintegrating the wearer. BRBs power well exceeds that limit if they have not decided to ignore it. The previous wearer Marvel Boy died trying to get too much power out of the bands.

[Toby_Temple]

Well, the Quantum Bands gave Quasar the ability to create light constructs that can resist blows coming from Gladiator and Hulk or even them combined. With that, he can defend himself easily from any attack from Beta Ray Bill. Quasar, with the Quantum Bands, can also manipulate energy and fire devastating heat blasts or he can tap on the the power cosmic and use it against Beta Ray.

[incubat]

beta ray bill

[Silicon Surfer]

Well, the Quantum Bands gave Quasar the ability to create light constructs that can resist blows coming from Gladiator and Hulk or even them combined. With that, he can defend himself easily from any attack from Beta Ray Bill. Quasar, with the Quantum Bands, can also manipulate energy and fire devastating heat blasts or he can tap on the the power cosmic and use it against Beta Ray.

If he can channel that much energy then he is well beyond what was originally their upper limit. I don't remember the details but Marvel Boy vaporized himself trying to channel a fraction of that power.

[Devastator85]

beta ray bill

[trustyside-kick]

Beta Ray Bill

[bkhedr]

Bill

[Toby_Temple]

If he can channel that much energy then he is well beyond what was originally their upper limit. I don't remember the details but Marvel Boy vaporized himself trying to channel a fraction of that power.

I think he can. I remember the comics where Quasar protected the Infinity Watch from the Shi'ar Emperial Guards and his light contruct faired well against Gladiator and others.

[Apprentice]

Beta Ray Bill. :up:

[3dman27]

quasar

[Sparta*]

I'll go with Quasar

[Ahura Mazda]

Quasar a he stands now would easily win

[1987olds442]

Quasar

[Bastila]

Quasar

[KevanG]

I'll vote for Mr. Ed here... I mean Bill :D

[Vanguard07]

Bill beat Thor in a fair one on one fight BEFORE he got his stormbreaker hammer. Since the hammer he's had most of the abilities of Thor added on to what he already possessed. Logically BRB should be more powerful than thor by a fair margin (normal thor at least, not rune thor or king thor or anything).

Quasar is one of the most powerful mortals in the MU. He's got power enough to take down virtually anybody one on one but Bill's power is as much internal (strength endurance durability etc) as it is projection, where Quasars is all projection. I think Bill would have the advantage for that reason alone.

Bill gets my vote.

[Iceman/Psylocke]

Bill

[Toby_Temple]

Bill beat Thor in a fair one on one fight BEFORE he got his stormbreaker hammer. Since the hammer he's had most of the abilities of Thor added on to what he already possessed. Logically BRB should be more powerful than thor by a fair margin (normal thor at least, not rune thor or king thor or anything).

Quasar is one of the most powerful mortals in the MU. He's got power enough to take down virtually anybody one on one but Bill's power is as much internal (strength endurance durability etc) as it is projection, where Quasars is all projection. I think Bill would have the advantage for that reason alone.

Bill gets my vote.

Just because he beat Thor then it means he can beat Quasar.

And endurance, strength and durability are useless against someone who can wrap himself with a shield capable of withstanding blows from ten or more Beta Ray Bills.

Never underestimate the Quantum Bands, let alone someone who has them and can use them properly.

[Vanguard07]

Just because he beat Thor then it means he can beat Quasar.

And endurance, strength and durability are useless against someone who can wrap himself with a shield capable of withstanding blows from ten or more Beta Ray Bills.

Never underestimate the Quantum Bands, let alone someone who has them and can use them properly.

I'm not. I have a healthy respect for Quasar. He's one powerful sob.
But a guy who focuses on energy projection (no matter how potent) will always leave an opening for the areas where he doesnt specialize.
Focusing on one aspect of ability to the point of excluding others leaves big gaps in one's defenses.

Bill's got a healthy dose of energy projection at his disposal with all the storms and lightning and what not, he's also got mad strength, invulnerability and combat skill. Also I do believe (though i'm not sure) that Stormbreaker, like Mjolnir has portal capabilities which lends him the advantage of mobility.

Quasar could win. No doubt about that. But personally i'd think bill would have better odds.

[Toby_Temple]

Quasar have fought and stalemated Thor and Silver Surfer in a 1vs1 fight and faired well agains the Shi'ar Emperial Guards alone. That only proves that Quasar can handle beings with Beta Ray's power level and combat experience and win. So Beta Ray clearly does not have any advantage in this fight.

[Purple Man]

If Beta Ray Bill was angry enough don't you think he would be able to smash through Quasars constructs like taking a hammer to concrete? Or could the quantum bands hold back his mighty rage?

I guess it would really depend on the writer. If Quasar stayed calm he would be able to rope in Beta, but if he faltered for a second, he would end up trampled.

Very close one, but I'd vote for Beta Ray Bill and stormbringer over Quasar and the quantum bands.

[The_Vision]

Beta Ray Bill

[CanaryFan]

Beta Ray Bill

[LongDong]

If Beta Ray Bill was angry enough don't you think he would be able to smash through Quasars constructs like taking a hammer to concrete? Or could the quantum bands hold back his mighty rage?

I guess it would really depend on the writer. If Quasar stayed calm he would be able to rope in Beta, but if he faltered for a second, he would end up trampled.

Very close one, but I'd vote for Beta Ray Bill and stormbringer over Quasar and the quantum bands.

Have you ever taken a hammer to concrete? Concrete usually wins.

[bkhedr]

Not saying that Quasar's constructs wouldnt hold

but Stormbreaker is no ordinary hammer

[CanaryFan]

Have you ever taken a hammer to concrete? Concrete usually wins.

Not when you use a sledge hammer

[LongDong]

Not when you use a sledge hammer

Again, have you ever hit concrete with a sledge hammer? You would wear yourself out before you really broke up the concrete. Watch the construction guys using a jackhammer, you know the big pneumatic ones that are air powered and have the big metal spike? It takes them all day to break through a piece of concrete.

I know your point, but your analogy is not accurate.

[CanaryFan]

Again, have you ever hit concrete with a sledge hammer? You would wear yourself out before you really broke up the concrete. Watch the construction guys using a jackhammer, you know the big pneumatic ones that are air powered and have the big metal spike? It takes them all day to break through a piece of concrete.

I know your point, but your analogy is not accurate.

I've done construction work in the past and I've used a sledge to break up concrete plenty of times. It works just fine. The jack hammers are used when the concrete is very thich or has rebar in it to hold it together. In any case a sledge has nothing on Mjoliner, Stormbreaker, or the Thunderstrike mace.

[LongDong]

I've done construction work in the past and I've used a sledge to break up concrete plenty of times. It works just fine. The jack hammers are used when the concrete is very thich or has rebar in it to hold it together. In any case a sledge has nothing on Mjoliner, Stormbreaker, or the Thunderstrike mace.

They had to have been thin slabs of concrete. less than 4 inches either that or you are a msssive man.

[CrypticOne]

I'm going to go with Beta Ray Bill.

[Toby_Temple]

If Beta Ray Bill was angry enough don't you think he would be able to smash through Quasars constructs like taking a hammer to concrete? Or could the quantum bands hold back his mighty rage?

I guess it would really depend on the writer. If Quasar stayed calm he would be able to rope in Beta, but if he faltered for a second, he would end up trampled.

Very close one, but I'd vote for Beta Ray Bill and stormbringer over Quasar and the quantum bands.

If Gladiator with the other Shi'ar Imperial Guards or Hulk with the Avengers and other earth superheroes can't break through one of Quasar's full force constructs then its impossible for Beta Ray Bill ALONE. The stormbringer is an awesome hammer but the Quantum Bands are no ordinary bands as well.

Again, Quasar has faced Thor, Silver Surfer, Firelord and a watcher 1 on 1. He is not a novice in close combats.

[Phaedrus45]

Hello everyone,

Sparta was kind enough to let me give a couple promotional pitches for a special tournament, open to anyone and everyone who is willing to give about 5 months of their time. I start out with the bad, which is the commitment you'd be willing to take, to let you know the positive: The fun and a chance to win prizes in the form of comics or DVDs based on comics. The grand prize hasn't been determined yet, but last year the grand prize winner got a copy of the first appearance of Gambit and a bunch of other X-Men comics from the same time period. The value of that grand prize was almost $400.00. Along the way, 5 other prizes are given out, letting the winners get a chance in helping to choose 25 or more comics they'd like to have sent to them. These prizes are given out from my vast collection of doubles...of which I have way too many.

If you are interested, check out the link below:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/...d.php?t=250260 (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250260)

The contest is identical to Sparta's Marvel Comics Character Contest, except 512 pre-selected characters are put into a tournament, divided into 8 brackets, and every winner gets to advance to the next round. The characters are divided between the contestants evenly and randomly. All you have to do is commit to giving at least one paragraph for each of your contestants, and why you believe he/she should advance, and then you vote every week. If you want to see an example of last year, just check out the following thread:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/...d.php?t=189744 (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189744)

Thank you for reading, thanks Sparta for allowing me to give a promotion on his thread, and I hope to see some of you give Season 2 a shot.

Thanks,

Phaedrus45

[Sparta*]

No problem Phaed :up:

I hope a lot of you guys consider joining for Season II. Season I was an awesome experience...everyone had a ton of fun and the prizes were great!

[Iceman/Psylocke]

Looks interesting Phaedrus :up:

I'll look throught the previous tournament and give the rules a read before I decide to commit.

[Sparta*]

14 - 8 is the final tally for Beta Ray Bill

Next match-up in moments...

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


GREY HULK
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/GreyHulk3.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


HOLOCAUST
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Holocaust.jpg

[Phaedrus45]

No problem Phaed :up:

I hope a lot of you guys consider joining for Season II. Season I was an awesome experience...everyone had a ton of fun and the prizes were great!

Didn't you win a booby prize last year? I can't remember.

[Phaedrus45]

Grey Hulk!!!

[Sparta*]

Didn't you win a booby prize last year? I can't remember.

No :(

but that's besides the point :p

On a side note...sorry for the hideously huge picture of Grey Hulk...photobucket has decided to be completley and utterly retarded and now you can only resize your pics by 16%, 25% and 50% for some hideously stupid and non-sensical reason.

Photobucket...I officially hate you dead.

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

Grey Hulk; I can't take a man who was snorted to death seriously enough to believe the Grey Hulk would have an issue kicking him around even with slighted strength.

[trustyside-kick]

Grey Hulk

[Ultra-Herald9]

Grey Hulk; I can't take a man who was snorted to death seriously enough to believe the Grey Hulk would have an issue kicking him around even with slighted strength.

aww c'mon he was snorted by Hyperion. Thats basically like being killed by pre-crisis Superman. I say Holocaust cause Grey Hulk isn't even class 100.

[Sparta*]

Grey Hulk isn't really even close to class 100 I don't think...

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

aww c'mon he was snorted by Hyperion. Thats basically like being killed by pre-crisis Superman. I say Holocaust cause Grey Hulk isn't even class 100.

Being around Class 75 hasn't impeded him before. One has to remember he severely scarred the Abomination in a way the Savage Hulk had never fathomed on ingenuity alone.

[Silicon Surfer]

Holocaust easily.This is the guy who not only fought Exodus to a standstill, he did it while enduring reentry. Even the original hulk barely survived reentry without the strain of battle. Holocaust is a lot tougher than any version of the Hulk.

[CrypticOne]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


GREY HULK
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/GreyHulk3.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


HOLOCAUST
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Holocaust.jpg

I'm going to go with Holocaust.

[Sparta*]

3 - 3 so far...

[Ultra-Herald9]

Holocaust easily.This is the guy who not only fought Exodus to a standstill, he did it while enduring reentry. Even the original hulk barely survived reentry without the strain of battle. Holocaust is a lot tougher than any version of the Hulk.

Whoa I didn't know that. He can go if he can go toe-to-toe with Exodus then Grey Hulk's f**ked.

[Silicon Surfer]

Whoa I didn't know that. He can go if he can go toe-to-toe with Exodus then Grey Hulk's f**ked.

Although they never showed the end of the fight when the two are next encountered Holocaust is powering up on villagers and Exodus is in bad shape and trying to siphon psionic power to restore himself. Holocaust was apparently in much better shape. He not only went toe to toe with him, he brutalized him. And Exodus simultaneously took on the Avengers, the X-Men and Sersi while maintaining a force field over the entire island of Genosha.

[bkhedr]

Holocaust

[X_fan08]

Holocaust

agreeed

[Iceman/Psylocke]

Holocaust

[Anubis]

Holocaust

[Hellstormer]

Holocaust, he gave X-Man trouble and X-Man is like a god.

[1987olds442]

Grey Hulk

[hippy fascist]

holocaust

[psycho]

Holocaust

[bcd90]

Holocaust

Holocaust

[Sloth7d]

Holocaust, he gave X-Man trouble and X-Man is like a god.
Electro gave X-man trouble And knocked him out before. Nate is definately no god.
Eitherway though, Holocaust takes this.

[incubat]

holocaust

[Midnight Ice]

Didn't you win a booby prize last year? I can't remember.
Sparta* didn't. I did win a prize though. I forgot why. I think I won a round or something. the prize was a pretty sweet box of comics.:xmen:






and for the match...Holocaust:xmen:

[Vanguard07]

Holocaust for sure. Far more versatile, far more tough, just as ruthless.

Hulk's got nothin but his rep goin for him in this fight.

[Rellings]

Holocaust.

[wildjokers]

Grey Hulk

[r8hitman]

Grey Hulk

[Phaedrus45]

The grand prize is being set up for the Contest Of Marvels Season II. Just added to the BIG PRIZE are the following comics:

Origin #1 & #2

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/96794780627.1.gif (http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=96794780627%201)

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/96794780627.2.gif (http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=96794780627%202)


Amazing Spider-Man #36

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/03188797534.36.gif (http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=03188797534%2036)

Web Of Spider-Man #1

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/94711729058.1.gif (http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=94711729058%201)

At MileHighComics, these four comics, from my personal collection, are valued at almost $200.00. AND, MORE COMICS WILL BE ADDED TO THE GRAND PRIZE!!! Along with the grand prize, five other prize packs will be given throughout the contest, even for contestants who do the worst. Those prize packs will include over 25 comics in the category you'd like to see filled, whether it's Marvel, DC, Image or Independant. (And, last season, someone wanted Spawn comics, and got over 20 Spawn titles.) If you are interested in signing up for Contest Of Marvels Season II, follow the link below, or just PM me with any questions or to sign up:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/...d.php?t=250260 (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250260)

Good luck for everyone who wished to participate!

[Colossal Spoons]

Though he went down in record time in X-Men Legends 2; I'm voting for Holocaust. :D

[Vanguard07]

Man. Sweet prizes. Unfortunately i alread have all of those in my collection. I still might enter though.

[Toby_Temple]

Holocaust. Grey Hulk may be street wise but that, with his strength, is not enough to even match Holocaust's powers.

[Phaedrus45]

Tomorrow at 12:00 pm (Pacific Time), we will be closing our recruitment drive for the Contest Of Marvels Season 2. Currently, we have 16 contestants, and anyone else who wishes to join and try to win some prizes given along the way would be welcome.

In this contest, we have 512 characters from the Marvel Universe. They are all put into 8 seperate brackets, set up very much like the college basketball brackets. To advance to the next round, each character must get more votes than their opponents. This is almost identical to Sparta's Marvel Comic Character Tournament, except the owner of each character gets to debate why they believe their character should advance. All votes must take into account the debate, not just randomly who they believe would win.

Everyone is free to vote, but only those who wish to debate can win the prizes. Six prizes are given out. After round 1, the player with the most characters still around for round 2 gets at least 25 comics sent to them. Also, we reward the person who does the worst. That person gets the 2nd prize. At the end of round 2, we do the same thing. The person who does the best and the person who does the worst get prize packs 3 & 4. The next rounds go pretty quickly; so, the last two prizes are the grand prize and the runner up.

The contest is long, running for about 5 months, but the time you spend weekly really isn't that difficult. If you did a minimum, you could probably spend 10 minutes a week. (Although, many contestants will spend quite a bit more time on character's debates. It's up to each individual.)

As this is my last post on the matter, I want to thank Sparta so much for allowing me to post on his thread. It's helped quite a bit, and a few of the 16 currently participating is due to him allowing me to do this.

[Hellstormer]

C'mon people should really give this a try, I don't know what the hell I'm doing and I'm gonna try and you can win prizes without harm to you. That and I don't wanna have to watch 32 characters. :p

[Sparta*]

No problem Phaed :up:

17 - 6 is the final tally for Holocaust

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


ELEKTRA
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Elektra.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


SHADOWCAT
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Shadowcat2.jpg

[Darphnugget]

Elektra.


I'm curious to who would win from superman and the hulk...

[CanaryFan]

Shadowcat

[Sloth7d]

Elektra.
Kitty might have powers, but Elektra has defeated villains far more dangerous/powerful.

[3dman27]

ms pryde

[hippy fascist]

miss kitty fantastico :meow: :heart: :meow:

[The_Vision]

Kitty

[1987olds442]

Shadowcat

[Phaedrus45]

Kitty Pryde, definitely

[1987olds442]

I'm curious to who would win from superman and the hulk...In this vs. thread it's strickly Marvel vs Marvel characters, but there is a DC vs Marvel thread...
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214751

[Ahura Mazda]

How could Kitty lose...she phases while looking at Elektra doing cool martial arts moves and after gets bored solidifies an arm through her brain,...ok out of character but why not

[Bastila]

Kitty!

[Iceman/Psylocke]

Kitty is unbeatable at the moment.

[hippy fascist]

ooh sparta any chance we could actually have iceman vs psylocke next round :woot:

[Specter313]

Kitty. She's a ninja, probably close to if not on par with Elektra, plus her phasing powers would allow her to avoid any of Elektra's attacks.

[Iceman/Psylocke]

ooh sparta any chance we could actually have iceman vs psylocke next round :woot:Hey don't make me choose, you fascist. :cmad:


:p

[LEX]

Kitty, easily. Elektra is fighting air.

[CrypticOne]

Shadowcat

[CanaryFan]

Page #666. We should have something like a Grim Reaper vs Tombstone match.

[Anubis]

Shadowcat

Mephesto vs Dormamu.

[Zoken]

I'm with anubis on a Mephisto Vs. Dormamu thing in commemoration of reaching the number of the beast.

Oh, and so Kitty Pryde

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Kitty

[kytrigger]

Shadowcat

[1987olds442]

666 :hellboy: lol

[Silicon Surfer]

Shadowkitty. Electra is the more skilled but being immune to your opponents attacks whenever you feel like it is a monstrously huge advantage.

[Rellings]

Kitty Pryde.

[Hellstormer]

Kitty, you can't beat what you can't touch. Kitty could just phase her into a wall.

[Sparta*]

Kitty. She's a ninja, probably close to if not on par with Elektra, plus her phasing powers would allow her to avoid any of Elektra's attacks.

Shadowcat is a great fighter...but I really don't think she is on par with Elektra

[Sparta*]

Shadowcat

Mephesto vs Dormamu.

I'm with anubis on a Mephisto Vs. Dormamu thing in commemoration of reaching the number of the beast.

Oh, and so Kitty Pryde

It will be done :up:

[Midnight Ice]

Kitty is not near as good a fighter as Electra, but you can't hit air, so I will go with Kitty.:xmen:

[Toby_Temple]

Nice! Mephisto vs Dormamu: The self-proclaimed devil vs the devil who looks like ghost rider.

And I'm voting for Kitty Pryde. Electra could not even scratch her clothes.

[incubat]

kitty, and you should hurry posting the 666 fight, or else we're going to pass the number

[Exploding Boy]

WTF? What would Electra do...?

Kitty

[Vanguard07]

Kitty for sure. I cant think of any possible advantage bigger than being immune to absolutely everything your opponent is capable of.

Also Kitty is Ninja (not as ninja as Elektra but in this case deffinitely ninja enough)

[POWdER-man]

Good to see this is still going on strong....Shadowcat

[Sparta*]

Shadowcat wins! Next battle soon...

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


MEPHISTO
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Mephisto.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp

DORMAMMU
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Dormammu2.jpg

[Sparta*]

This battle will be taking place on Earth

[Ultra-Herald9]

Surfer wins by a close one. Beserk Thor ain't exactly a cake walk!

[Sparta*]

Surfer wins by a close one. Beserk Thor ain't exactly a cake walk!

:huh: :huh:

*refer to above match-up

[BrianWilly]

Heh. What a coincidence that this fight is taking place on page 666:p.

I say Mephisto, but honestly this could go either way.

[Sloth7d]

Dormammu

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Dormammu have taken down Mephisto once, he caneasiley do it again.

[CanaryFan]

Dormammu

[bkhedr]

Mephisto

[hippy fascist]

mephisto, gotta love the whole fire and brimstone angle

[Iceman/Psylocke]

Dormammu

[incubat]

Heh. What a coincidence that this fight is taking place on page 666:p.

I say Mephisto, but honestly this could go either way.

that was sort of the idea

[incubat]

mephisto

[trustyside-kick]

Mephisto

[Doombringer]

Mephisto should win, the guy battled Galactus to a stand still pretty much. On paper Mephisto is off the charts. But Dormmamu through what ive seen in all my comics of him is pretty damn up there too. Im gonna go with Mephisto, on the account that he has that much more of a decieving nature. In my eyes seeing Dormmamu defeating a Mephisto is just bad writing.

Being that there are obviously more than one realm of Hell in the MU, how do you think Lucifer (currently seen in the GR series) would stand against Mephisto?

[1987olds442]

Mephisto

[Anubis]

Mephisto in a close one.

[Hellstormer]

Dormannu

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

Mephisto; as mentioned before, in terms of sheer power Mephisto should be close to Eternity on a cosmic scale. Dormammu may have taken him down once, but Mephisto isn't the kind to sit for eons on a throne having learned nothing.

[The_Vision]

Mephisto

[Silicon Surfer]

Mephisto

[Venom.Symbiote]

Mephisto; as mentioned before, in terms of sheer power Mephisto should be close to Eternity on a cosmic scale. Dormammu may have taken him down once, but Mephisto isn't the kind to sit for eons on a throne having learned nothing.

I agree. Since Mephisto is supposed to basically be the devil, I think he would have kept tabs on any beings that even came close to being a threat to him on any level. I don't think Dormammu could come up with anything that Mephisto hasn't already seen or thought of himself. :venom:

[Sparta*]

I'll throw in a vote for Dormammu bringing the current tally to 12 - 6 for Mephisto...

[theoneandonly]

i say dormammu

[Iron Fist]

Dormammu

[Silicon Surfer]

The problem with Dormammu is that his major magic ability is the power to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. To my knowledge he has never had a single victory aside from continually regaining control of his realm.

[Vanguard07]

The thing about Mephisto though is his schtick is primarilly deception. He casts illusions and whatnot for the most part. Several individuals have bested Mephisto (outside of hell i mean) just by knowing better than to believe that he can harm you.

In Hell Mephisto's power is off the charts. Outside of Hell he's just a really advanced illusion caster.
Dormamu is far more powerful in his own realm too but he's still insanely powerful outside of it. On Earth he's got FAR less of a disadvantage than Mephy does.

I vote Dormamu.

[kytrigger]

The thing about Mephisto though is his schtick is primarilly deception. He casts illusions and whatnot for the most part. Several individuals have bested Mephisto (outside of hell i mean) just by knowing better than to believe that he can harm you.

In Hell Mephisto's power is off the charts. Outside of Hell he's just a really advanced illusion caster.
Dormamu is far more powerful in his own realm too but he's still insanely powerful outside of it. On Earth he's got FAR less of a disadvantage than Mephy does.

I vote Dormamu.

convinced me...I vot Dormammu

[KevanG]

Flame brain gets my vote :D On earth Mephy just can't keep up...

[CrypticOne]

Mephisto gets my vote.

[vindrow]

Mephisto

[Paloogin]

Mephisto, bless. I'll throw him a bone.

[Sparta*]

16 - 10 is the final tally for Mephisto

The next match-up is a request from Hippy Fascist!

Sorry Iceman/Psylocke, I had to do it :p

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


ICEMAN
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Iceman.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


PSYLOCKE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Psylocke2.jpg

[SSJ4_Mikael]

One thought and Psylocke's body reaches 0 kelvin, game!
- iceman with relative ease . . . He's a Omega mutant, common . . . common . . .

[Colossal Spoons]

Iceman

[Ockham]

Iceman. For reasons already mentioned.

[CanaryFan]

Psylocke

[AndThePickles]

Iceman.

[Bastila]

This one is hard, I like both hmmmm.

But since Iceman is winning so far, I'll let Psylocke have my vote.

[LadyMoira]

They did do battle before, (when Magneto used Moira MacTaggert's genetic manipulation to get the Blue X-Men team to join him against the Gold X-men team,) and in that one Iceman won.

[Sloth7d]

I wonder who iceman/psylocke will vote for?
I vote iceman, but I like psylocke more.

[1987olds442]

Iceman

[CrypticOne]

Iceman gets my vote.

[bkhedr]

Iceman

[Anubis]

Psylocke

[trustyside-kick]

Iceman

[Lady Stormcrow]

Iceman definatly

[Silicon Surfer]

Iceman

[wildjokers]

iceman

[Iceman/Psylocke]

Sorry Iceman/Psylocke, I had to do it :pDamn you Sparta! :cmad:

Double damn you Fascist!! :cmad: :cmad:

:woot:



If the question had been who do you prefer the answer would possibly have been different. I love Psylocke's mysterious persona and her strange way with people. Bobby when well written is also a great guy and essential livener for the X-Men team. His power is also unique and he would probably be a far more popular character if he had originated as a solo character rather than a junior X-Man.

In a no holds barred fight, Iceman has a much greater potential being an Omega level mutant although he has historically been reluctant to push his boundaries (without an Emma Frost messing with his head). Psylocke has far greater determination and directness and Bobby will hesitate to take down a fellow X-Man while Psylocke is capable of blocking out compassionate feelings and doing what is necessary for victory.

Once Iceman starts using his powers properly the victory is his but if he delays too long Bets, through a combination of her tk, ninja skills, shadow merging and combat ability, will penetrate his defences long enough to expose him to the effects of her psychic knife. This would wholly turn the battle in her favour as Bobby is emotionally vulnerable and therefore more susceptible to the weapon.



So in closing, having considered all of the above, my vote goes to .................Sorry got to go :D

[LadyMoira]

Iceman/Psylocke-You're a coward!

[Iceman/Psylocke]

Iceman/Psylocke-You're a coward!:oldrazz: That was only part I of the analysis. Part II including verdict will come when I log on in the evening. I can't let one of these die without a full justification. :( ;)

[JustABill]

-sigh- Iceman is an omega mutant, and probably could kill Psylocke easily, but as far as character wise, I like Betsys more than Bobby.

So in short.......seeing as how my girl is loosing. Betsy. :)

[LadyMoira]

I'll retract my accusation then...for now.:yay:

[TKing]

Psylocke, all the way. Any hot ninja ass-kicking female... that's enough for me.

[Hellstormer]

Psylocke

[bcd90]

Psylocke, all the way. Any hot ninja ass-kicking female... that's enough for me.

I want to say Psylocke.

[theoneandonly]

i go iceman

coz of that picture and he is awsome

[BatGuy63]

Psylocke...

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow, this thread takes the cake for having the most ridiculous explanations EVER.

[Iceman/Psylocke]

Part II (including verdict)

I see the fight being very interesting. As soon as it begins Psylocke throws everything she has at Iceman in an aggressive attack, holding nothing back. A hesitant Bobby attempts to ward off blows and keep Psylocke at a safe distance with non concussive blasts. Bets will eventually succeed to penetrate his defences by continually merging and leaping out of shadows and using tk skills to distract him. Her superior close quarter fighting ability and ninja level agility will allow her to stun him and provide an opportunity to use her psychic knife. While he is vulnerable she will try to finish the job with a killing blow. However, Iceman will not be totally incapacited and will be able to convert his body to a sentient vapour/liquid as he has done before, regroup and then turn his powers up to the max and blast poor Bets away.


My vote: Iceman :( :csad: :( :csad: :( :csad: :(

[Colossal Spoons]

Wooo, smart man :up:

[incubat]

Part II (including verdict)

I see the fight being very interesting. As soon as it begins Psylocke throws everything she has at Iceman in an aggressive attack, holding nothing back. A hesitant Bobby attempts to ward off blows and keep Psylocke at a safe distance with non concussive blasts. Bets will eventually succeed to penetrate his defences by continually merging and leaping out of shadows and using tk skills to distract him. Her superior close quarter fighting ability and ninja level agility will allow her to stun him and provide an opportunity to use her psychic knife. While he is vulnerable she will try to finish the job with a killing blow. However, Iceman will not be totally incapacited and will be able to convert his body to a sentient vapour/liquid as he has done before, regroup and then turn his powers up to the max and blast poor Bets away.


My vote: Iceman :( :csad: :( :csad: :( :csad: :(

just like sophie's choice....

my vote: iceman too

[Silicon Surfer]

He could simply become so cold that she would freeze the instant that she came anywhere within yards of him.

[Sparta*]

Couldn't Psylocke instantly take control of his mind though? :huh:

[hippy fascist]

psylocke all the way

[hippy fascist]

Part II (including verdict)

I see the fight being very interesting. As soon as it begins Psylocke throws everything she has at Iceman in an aggressive attack, holding nothing back. A hesitant Bobby attempts to ward off blows and keep Psylocke at a safe distance with non concussive blasts. Bets will eventually succeed to penetrate his defences by continually merging and leaping out of shadows and using tk skills to distract him. Her superior close quarter fighting ability and ninja level agility will allow her to stun him and provide an opportunity to use her psychic knife. While he is vulnerable she will try to finish the job with a killing blow. However, Iceman will not be totally incapacited and will be able to convert his body to a sentient vapour/liquid as he has done before, regroup and then turn his powers up to the max and blast poor Bets away.


My vote: Iceman :( :csad: :( :( :csad: :(

what will you do if it ends up as a dead heat :)

If one of them wins though I thing you should change your name to ....is better than...

[LEX]

Psylocke gets my vote.

[Ultra-Herald9]

Iceman.

[Midnight Ice]

Iceman.:xmen:

[BrianWilly]

Iceman

[Captian Marvelo]

Psylockes a freakin mutant ninja! She leaps out of a shadow and drives a psychic knife into the back of Icemans skull before he even knows he's in a fight! GAME OVER!!!

[The_Vision]

Psylocke

[Anubis]

Psylockes a freakin mutant ninja! She leaps out of a shadow and drives a psychic knife into the back of Icemans skull before he even knows he's in a fight! GAME OVER!!!

I would just like to say that, while I did vote for Psylocke, I in no way agree with this guy. Seventh dumbest thing i've ever read on the hype.

[Silicon Surfer]

Couldn't Psylocke instantly take control of his mind though? :huh:

Marvel.com currently lists Betsy without telepathic powers and her "katana" is now telekinetic. In addition Iceman like all the X-Men is trained to resist mind control. Mind control is apparently the most difficult of the various psychic feats. It seems to be a lot easier to blast a mind than to control it. The odd are that even with her telepathy at full power as it was when she was in her own body that she could not control Iceman.

[Devastator85]

Iceman.

[3dman27]

kmack'spal
psylocke

[Kmack]

Psylocke:up:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/Kmackintrush/Psylockecropped.jpg

[Hal Jordan GL]

Haha, my vote goes to Psylocke as well. :up:

[Guyverjay]

Ice-man

[James"007"Bond]

iceman

[K4tzm4n]

Iceman

[Genesis 1.0]

Interesting bout to say the least. There are alot of different facets to this battle and alot of avenues it could take but I think that they all lead to the same place and that's Iceman putting the boots to 'ol Betsy.

I'd flip this in an instant if she had both her 'mountain shattering' teke AND her telepathy, her usual double pronged method of victory but she's now befret of her telepathy so she's one dimensional. Her ninja training and skills mean absoultely nothing in this fight, nothing offensive at the very least since it would prove ineffective if not suicidal to try that with Drake. Those years in the ninja art would prove invaluable on the defensive however, dodging attacks and hiding in plain sight in order to wait for an opening of some sort due to Bobby's overconfidence and bravado.

Honestly speaking, I like Betsy more than I do Bobby, not by much but it's there, but I know there's very little she could do to end this decisively. Slow him down? Yeah. Survive? Maybe. Win? No way, Bobby is just capable of far too much and in too many ways, especially with Psylocke down in telepathy.

Iceman

[Sparta*]

i'll vote for Iceman as well bringing the final tally to 24 - 14 in his favor!

[Sparta*]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg


CYCLOPS
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Cyclops2.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp


CAPTAIN AMERICA
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/CaptainAmerica.jpg

[Sparta*]

This is a re-match of my very first match-up in this thread all the way back on page 1! :D

Cyclops won 4 - 3 the first time, let's see what happens this time (hopefully there will be more then 7 votes :p)

[Iceman/Psylocke]

i'll vote for Iceman as well bringing the final tally to 24 - 14 in his favor!:yay: :) / :csad: :(

LATE EDIT: Even with Cyke's extensive experience, Cap has the upper hand in a fight as he's a lot more used to fighting alone. Once Cap seriously hurts Cyke though (which is inevitable) I'm counting on Cyke to have enough left to rip off his visor and score a full blast hit that would probably be enough to take the victory.

CYCLOPS

[Bastila]

Cyclops!!!

[Kitsune]

I'd say Cap. Cyce is more powerfull, but Cap regular takes out much more powerfull characters.

[X_fan08]

Captin am

[Hellstormer]

Cyclops

[Sloth7d]

Cap would knock him out before he even could say "optic bl--AAAAHHH"
I vote Cap.

[Vanguard07]

The basic idea of these fights is that both sides arent holding back at all yes? that their motivations are irellevant and that they're throwing down tooth and nail?
That being the case Cap stands no f*&$ing chance at all.
Cyclops is one of the most reserved combatants in the marvel U. He holds back 95% of what he's got all the damn time and never, never! lets it all loose unless there's absolutely no other choice.
In a real no holds barred fight Cyclops wouldnt bother with the visor and would just blast Cap to bits.
Cap's options would be
a) somehow position himself horizontally behind his shield so that his entire body is protected and be propelled backwards untill he's crushed to death by the nearest obstacle
b) Attempt to take Cyke out with a shield toss before he can open up despite the fact that Cyke has been shooting down projectiles his entire life and is probably THE most skilled countershot in the MU
or c) stand up and take it like a man and get killed instantly and painlessly.

Captain America is the greatest soldier that ever lived but Cap going all out isnt nearly as impressive as Cyke doing the same. It's something akin to the greatest boxer that ever lived in a fistfight with the biggest tidal wave ever recorded. It's a mismatch.

But that doesnt matter to Captain America fans who think that determination and wearing a flag and having survived world war 2 somehow makes the man a god.

If this were some poorly written plot device driven bout then Cap might stand a chance but that's his only chance. Unless you gave cap multiple ludicrous advantages like a headstart and such, realistically he couldnt win.

Cyke.

[1987olds442]

Captain America

[Midnight Ice]

Cap would have to use his agility to get behind Cyc and knock him out.

I give the fight to Cyclops.:xmen:

[Hellstormer]

Cap would have to use his agility to get behind Cyc and knock him out.

I give the fight to Cyclops.:xmen:
...somehow there's no logic in that.

[BatGuy63]

Captain America!

[Sloth7d]

...somehow there's no logic in that.
No "somehows" about it. There is just no logic in that.

[Silicon Surfer]

Cyke is himself one of the best hand to hand combatants in the MU. Add in the optic blast and Cap doesn't have the proverbial snowflakes chance. Caps shield would be useless since a wide angle blast would be bigger than area that the shield could protect. A classic rebound shot would bounce around at the speed of light and he would not have a clue as to what direction it would hit from. Against someone who can hit Quicksilver Caps agility is likewise useless. Cap can throw his shield quite quickly but Cykes optic blasts are even faster so he loses in that scenario too.

[Sloth7d]

Cyke is himself one of the best hand to hand combatants in the MU.
Not even close.:ninja:

[trustyside-kick]

Cyclops

[Exploding Boy]

Cyclops

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

Captain America. The power from Cyclops' optic blasts is great, but Cap has faced tougher challenges and lived to tell the tale.

[gambitfire]

Cyclops

i think ppl underestimate him too much. :)

[kytrigger]

If both are not holding back, then Cyclops rather easily.

[Kmack]

Captain America