View Full Version : Marvel Comics Character Tournament!!!
Iceman/Psylocke
01-07-2007, 04:12 PM
Quasar
The_Mighty_Thor
01-07-2007, 04:49 PM
I'll go with Wonder man here.
kytrigger
01-07-2007, 06:23 PM
Quasar
Genesis 1.0
01-07-2007, 08:46 PM
Simon in his strongest was VERY formidable, however Quasar in the 90's was just outside his spectrum.
Quasar
bkhedr
01-08-2007, 02:39 AM
Quasar
K4tzm4n
01-08-2007, 04:59 AM
Could we get Moon Knight thrown in somewhere? I think everyone really underestimated him in that 3v3...it was a full moon and people said Blade could easily take him...During he a full moon his attacks are almost as fast as Spider Man's and not to mention he has an impressive array of weaponry. Thanks
LadyMoira
01-08-2007, 10:26 AM
No offense to Wonder Man but Quasar is on a whole level than him. Quasar takes this one easily.
DACMAN
01-08-2007, 12:47 PM
How can you offend a fictional character?
Anubis
01-08-2007, 01:00 PM
By talking about his/her mama.
Ahura Mazda
01-08-2007, 01:04 PM
Quasar
Cyrusbales
01-08-2007, 04:24 PM
new match? this one is over, with wonderman picking up his teeth with his broken fingers....
Mistress Gluon
01-08-2007, 04:30 PM
Quasar.
JewishHobbit
01-08-2007, 05:02 PM
Hey guys, I'll try to be as unannoying as possible so that you may continue on your way. So I'll just drop this off.
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Oh... and my vote totally goes to Quasar... easily.
incubat
01-08-2007, 06:17 PM
ok..so, call me uninformed...but what exactly do hype presidents and vicepresidents do? (or at least point me in the right direction so i can get informed please)
Anubis
01-08-2007, 09:18 PM
Screw that, we, the people of the comics forums, are Anarchists. Take your student government crap and shove it square! :mad:
Painman
01-08-2007, 11:48 PM
Thor Is A God...nuff Said
Anubis
01-08-2007, 11:49 PM
heh, welcome to the hype newbie.
Painman
01-08-2007, 11:54 PM
OK, lets antman gets stepped on, than what.
But the blob is stupid, so i give it to antman just cause i like to support the underdogs:woot:
Toby_Temple
01-09-2007, 12:19 AM
^............whatever....
1987olds442
01-09-2007, 11:41 AM
Quasar
DACMAN
01-09-2007, 12:56 PM
Blob and Antman? Where'd that come from.
And Antman. He's a fricken genius, where's Blob is kind of an idiot.
Crimson_L
01-09-2007, 02:17 PM
Quasar, like everyone else >_>.
incubat
01-09-2007, 05:36 PM
anarchy in the SHH!
btw, nice avvy anubis
Cyrusbales
01-09-2007, 05:50 PM
`new match pleeeeease? My comic book violence quota needs filling
Sparta*
01-09-2007, 07:08 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg
ROGUE / MYSTIQUE / NIGHTCRAWLER
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Rogue.jpghttp://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Mystique.jpghttp://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Nightcrawler.jpg
**VS**
LONGSHOT / DAZZLER / COLOSSUS
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Longshot.jpghttp://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Dazzler.jpghttp://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Colossus.jpg
Sparta*
01-09-2007, 07:12 PM
Quasar won the last match-up.
This match-up will be taking place in the Danger Room with a city street simulation. This is an all out brawl...first to disable the other team wins.
The_Mighty_Thor
01-09-2007, 08:03 PM
Rogue, Mystique, and Nightcrawler
The_Mighty_Thor
01-09-2007, 08:03 PM
...
X-Girl_135
01-09-2007, 08:24 PM
Much as I personally like the team of Rogue Mystique and Nightcrawler better, I dont think they could win. But I also wonder wheather Rogue has Ms Marvel's powers or Sunfire's.
Dazzler can use lazer beams, light fog and many other things that work for both offense and Defense. Longshot has a variety of things at his disposal as well and Colossus... well need I really say anything?
Team Rogue, Mystique, and Nightcrawler really only have one main sourse of firepower and while Rogue is fairly pwerful I'm pretty sure Colossus could take her out.
My vote goes to Longshot, Dazzler and Colossus
Sloth7d
01-09-2007, 08:46 PM
Well unless Long shot gets really lucky then Rogue, Nightcrawler, and their mother takes this.
I think someone has done this before, but I'm going to flip a coin. If it comes up heads I'll vote for Long shots team.
Huh, well I flipped it three times... and all times were tails. Longshot doesn't stand a "ghost" of a chance. I vote for the disfunctional family.
Exploding Boy
01-09-2007, 09:12 PM
Rogue and crew
Toby_Temple
01-09-2007, 09:36 PM
I'm voting for Dazzler, Longshot and Colossus. They are more versatile and Colossus is much more of a tank compared to Rogue. It won't be easy, but I think Colossus is a very big factor in this match.
Exploding Boy
01-09-2007, 10:20 PM
Rogue and her absorbtion could take Colossus(and his powers). I see Mystique taking out Dazzler by transforming into Longshot and tricking her and Longshot getting KOd by Kurt and whoever remains
incubat
01-09-2007, 10:29 PM
Rogue and her absorbtion could take Colossus(and his powers). I see Mystique taking out Dazzler by transforming into Longshot and tricking her and Longshot getting KOd by Kurt and whoever remains
actually, she couldn't, colossus is inmune to rogue's power in his metal form (that's why they dated for awhile). and i agree with toby about him being the deciding factor. so, much against my will, i'll vote for colossus, longshot and dazzler
Exploding Boy
01-09-2007, 10:35 PM
oh, well that sucks
kytrigger
01-09-2007, 10:43 PM
colossus, dazzler, and Longshot take this one
Sparta*
01-09-2007, 11:27 PM
Sorry for not specifying...this is Rogue with Ms.Marvel powers.
Silicon Surfer
01-10-2007, 05:03 AM
Colossus, Dazzler and Longshot easily. Colossus is invulnerable to every power his opponents have and Longshot is agile enough to evade their attacks even without taking luck into consideration. Dazzler has multiple ranged attacks including a laser, solid light optic blasts and her original dazzle effect which could put all three opponents out at the same time.
Ahura Mazda
01-10-2007, 05:55 AM
Colossus, Dazzler and Longshot. The deciding factor is Colossus' immunity. He should be able to take down Rogue and Dazzler should cause initial bedlam without harming her teammates.
Cyrusbales
01-10-2007, 06:06 AM
Well Collossus can easily take out mystique, Longshot is lucky enough to never fall victim to nightcrawler, dazzler keeps rogue busy, until longshot comes in, It becomes Rogue's skill versus Longshot's luck, having seeen the luck that longshot has had before, I'm gonna say they win it.
LONGSHOT, COLOSSUS and DAZZLER win.
3dman27
01-10-2007, 06:30 AM
Rogue, Mystique, and Nightcrawler
agreed the souther belle &co takes it:ninja:
CanaryFan
01-10-2007, 10:35 AM
Rogue and company would start out by stirring things up and causing confusion so Curt could teleport colossus away and Mystique could take his place and pretend to be going after Rogue. Then suddenly BANG! Longshot goes down. Dazzler is momentarily stunned by her teammates betrayal and before she can process what happened Rogues sucks her powers away. Then she drains Longshots abilities for added advantage. Meanwhile Curt has been keeping Colossus busy taunting and frustrating him as he always did so easily in X-Men. Now that Mystique and Rogue with the combined powers of Ms Marvel, Dazzler, and longshot have rejoined him it only a matter of time until the tin man falls.
Rogue, Mystique and Nightcrawler for the win.
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01-10-2007, 11:01 AM
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The_Vision
01-10-2007, 11:26 AM
Rogue, Mystique, and Nightcrawler
Genesis 1.0
01-10-2007, 11:44 AM
Colossus, Dazzler, & Longshot
As naueseating as that was.
Ockham
01-10-2007, 11:53 AM
Claremont's Colossus in 80's was not immune to Rogue's mutant power. If some n00b writer later makes a one-time mistake of thinking that he is (i.e. doesn't provide any explanation for the apparent inconsistency), I'll just ignore the event and assume that Rogue in fact can absorb Colossus while he's armored up.
Rogue, Mystique and Kurt for the win.
(Kurt could teleport kick Dazzler unconscious, then deliver her to Rogue. Rogue would dazzle Colossus by Ali's powers then absorb him as well. Longshot would also fall to Rogue. Mystique would only have to watch, amused.)
Genesis 1.0
01-10-2007, 11:59 AM
Wait, since when is Longshot easily knocked out by.....just about anything short of near cosmic level power? His powers cancel out just about any easy win situation and he had a kickass mullet.
Ockham
01-10-2007, 12:03 PM
Yes, Longshot would be the most difficult one to defeat. However, I think that Rogue with Ms. Marvel's, Colossus' and Dazzler's powers, with the aid of Mystique and Nightcrawler, has a more than 50% chance of defeating him.
Colossal Spoons
01-10-2007, 12:06 PM
I'm voting for Dazzler, Longshot and Colossus. They are more versatile and Colossus is much more of a tank compared to Rogue. It won't be easy, but I think Colossus is a very big factor in this match.
QFT. I vote accordingly.
Colossal Spoons
01-10-2007, 12:09 PM
Claremont's Colossus in 80's was not immune to Rogue's mutant power. If some n00b writer later makes a one-time mistake of thinking that he is (i.e. doesn't provide any explanation for the apparent inconsistency), I'll just ignore the event and assume that Rogue in fact can absorb Colossus while he's armored up.
:whatever: You're serious? Do you choose to ignore everything else that's happened in the last 27 years?
Ockham
01-10-2007, 12:17 PM
:whatever: You're serious? Do you choose to ignore everything else that's happened in the last 27 years?
Nope, just one-time deviations from established facts, provided that no explanation for the inconsistency is given. As I said clearly in my post.
Edit: And by the 80's I mean the years 1980 - 1989. That era didn't end 27 years ago.
Anubis
01-10-2007, 01:37 PM
Longshot, Colossus and dazzler.
BatGuy63
01-10-2007, 01:37 PM
I vote Longshot, Dazzler and Colossus. I think they have the edge in the power department.
CrypticOne
01-10-2007, 02:05 PM
Rogue, Mystique and Nightcrawler get my vote.
incubat
01-10-2007, 02:13 PM
Nope, just one-time deviations from established facts, provided that no explanation for the inconsistency is given. As I said clearly in my post.
Edit: And by the 80's I mean the years 1980 - 1989. That era didn't end 27 years ago.
i sense anger in you
Ockham
01-10-2007, 02:22 PM
i sense anger in you
So I'm past fear. Hate and suffering will follow.
Brainiac 8
01-10-2007, 02:28 PM
Longshot, Dazzler, and Colossus.
I think Longshot's luck would be the winning factor.
1987olds442
01-10-2007, 02:31 PM
Longshot / Dazzler / Colossus
Vanguard07
01-10-2007, 04:45 PM
Collossus could take on all three. Mystique is no threat to him at all and he's immune to rogue's powers and he's stronger and tougher than rogue. Kurt could maybe pose a problem via ring out but Between Dazzler and Longshot i'm sure Pete's team could keep Kurt occupied.
Collossus, Dazzler and Longshot for sure.
Foggy Nelson
01-10-2007, 04:50 PM
Colossus, Dazzler and Longshot, easily.
Guyverjay
01-10-2007, 04:53 PM
Nope, just one-time deviations from established facts, provided that no explanation for the inconsistency is given. As I said clearly in my post.
Edit: And by the 80's I mean the years 1980 - 1989. That era didn't end 27 years ago.
I like this guy:p
Silicon Surfer
01-10-2007, 04:55 PM
Kurt could not teleport very far if at all with Colossus' mass. The Danger Room is programmed to detect Kurt teleporting out of it and take him out when he materializes outside. That feature was put in to make Kurt take Danger Room training seriously.
greenrage36
01-10-2007, 05:13 PM
I think the Longshot-Dazzler-Colossus team will win this. They have a excellent blend of skills between the three of them. They would make a better team then the other three and have numerous options to win this.
Plus they have luck on their side...(in the form of Longshot)..so I say 10/10 they would win this.
K4tzm4n
01-10-2007, 10:01 PM
Colossus/Longshot/Dazzler
KevanG
01-10-2007, 11:55 PM
I give it to the crazy family. I don't think it would be easy but I think they could take the others.
Colossal Spoons
01-11-2007, 12:45 AM
Nope, just one-time deviations from established facts, provided that no explanation for the inconsistency is given. As I said clearly in my post.
Edit: And by the 80's I mean the years 1980 - 1989. That era didn't end 27 years ago.
I guess you continue to do that. The rest of us will usher in the year 2007 and all the comic facts that come with it :up:
Kurt could not teleport very far if at all with Colossus' mass. The Danger Room is programmed to detect Kurt teleporting out of it and take him out when he materializes outside. That feature was put in to make Kurt take Danger Room training seriously.
Damn, since when? :eek:
Mistress Gluon
01-11-2007, 12:47 AM
Galactus. I don't care what the teams are, I can't choose either with a sane mind.
Colossal Spoons
01-11-2007, 01:19 AM
Galactus is too busy playing S&M with Annihilus.
Vanguard07
01-11-2007, 01:21 AM
LoL Galactus is not into S&M. Annihilus was just helping him work out some intimacy issues that's all.
AndThePickles
01-11-2007, 01:23 AM
Rogue, Mystique and Nightcrawler. Even though Colossus is awesome, Longshot and Dazzler aren't so great. Colossus is definitely the deciding factor in terms of who would win IMO. Hmmm
Colossal Spoons
01-11-2007, 01:23 AM
Hahaha ok.
Mistress Gluon
01-11-2007, 01:31 AM
Galactus is too busy playing S&M with Annihilus.
You make it sound like a bad thing.
Colossal Spoons
01-11-2007, 01:31 AM
Galactus didn't know the code-word to make it stop. :(
Silicon Surfer
01-11-2007, 04:03 AM
Damn, since when? :eek:
Since he first joined the X-Men. The Professor and Cyclops anticipated that he would not take Danger Room sessions seriously because he would always believe that he could simply teleport away from any threat. So they set up systems to make sure that he could not teleport out of Danger Room sessions without getting zapped hard enough to make him regret it.
LadyMoira
01-11-2007, 10:23 AM
Since the danger room limits Nightcrawler's teleportation abilities and since Rogue no longer has Ms. Marvel's powers I've gotta go with Longshot, Dazzler, and Colussus though I can't say I like it.
Mistress Gluon
01-11-2007, 10:43 AM
Galactus didn't know the code-word to make it stop. :(
I thought they agreed on, "Imperius Rex" (hinting to who Galactus' s/M buddy was.)
Colossal Spoons
01-11-2007, 12:45 PM
Since he first joined the X-Men. The Professor and Cyclops anticipated that he would not take Danger Room sessions seriously because he would always believe that he could simply teleport away from any threat. So they set up systems to make sure that he could not teleport out of Danger Room sessions without getting zapped hard enough to make him regret it.
I can think of ways for Kurt to avoid that but I get the point. Wow, thanks :up:
Brainiac 8
01-11-2007, 01:15 PM
Rogue, Mystique and Nightcrawler. Even though Colossus is awesome, Longshot and Dazzler aren't so great. Colossus is definitely the deciding factor in terms of who would win IMO. Hmmm
How can you say they are not that great. Longshot is an extremely skilled fighter with the ability to have luck on his side.
Dazzler can make it so bright that she would overload her enemies retinas, thus making them blind...at that point it's just cleanup.
Silicon Surfer
01-11-2007, 05:04 PM
Dazzlers original light attack was intense enought to affect the central nervous system and ko several people at a time for hours. She later trained under the X-Men and developed a solid light optic blast and a shield in addition to a laser attack that she developed on her own. She also has no upper limit to her powers. She can go all the way to herald level with a sufficient source of sound. And she has. Longshot has superhuman strength and agility and is a highly trained fighter with throwing blades. Longshot is capable of taking out Kurt and Mystique on his own.
Sparta*
01-11-2007, 06:33 PM
Since the danger room limits Nightcrawler's teleportation abilities and since Rogue no longer has Ms. Marvel's powers I've gotta go with Longshot, Dazzler, and Colussus though I can't say I like it.
The Rogue in this match-up has Ms. Marvel's powers
Mistress Gluon
01-11-2007, 06:36 PM
Then Rogue's team.
I almost said Rouge. x.x
Colossal Spoons
01-11-2007, 06:39 PM
^You would have been dealt with...harshly :dry:
Mistress Gluon
01-11-2007, 06:42 PM
I would've hurt myself for confusing it, when it's a word I use pretty much every morning.
Colossal Spoons
01-11-2007, 06:43 PM
Is French your 1st language?
Mistress Gluon
01-11-2007, 06:46 PM
Oui oui, monseiur.
English is actually my third.
Colossal Spoons
01-11-2007, 06:46 PM
Le cool.
AndThePickles
01-11-2007, 06:47 PM
How can you say they are not that great. Longshot is an extremely skilled fighter with the ability to have luck on his side.
Dazzler can make it so bright that she would overload her enemies retinas, thus making them blind...at that point it's just cleanup.
*shrugs* They both bore me. Maybe it's the writers not doing them justice, but Longshot is always displayed as the lucky side-kick and Dazzler just does light-shows sometimes.
Ockham
01-12-2007, 03:40 PM
Rogue vs. Dazzler:
http://www.geocities.com/rogue1863/Dazzler24xB4.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/rogue1863/Dazzler24xB6.jpg
Rogue "vs." Colossus:
http://www.geocities.com/xmenpics7/XMenandAlphaFlight1xB9.jpg
Rogue "vs." Longshot:
http://www.geocities.com/roguewhat001/XMenAnnual12xB5.jpg
Genesis 1.0
01-12-2007, 04:01 PM
Sparta, hurry before we're all overrun with subjective images from the Pit.
Sparta*
01-12-2007, 05:57 PM
Sparta, hurry before we're all overrun with subjective images from the Pit.
Just for you Genesis :up: lol
Final tally is 17 - 11 for Colossus, Longshot, and the Dazzler!
Next match-up in a few...
Sparta*
01-12-2007, 06:01 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg
HAWKEYE
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Hawkeye.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp
PYRO
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Pyro.jpg
Mistress Gluon
01-12-2007, 06:04 PM
Hawkeye.
Crimson_L
01-12-2007, 06:33 PM
Hawkeye, for sure.
Silicon Surfer
01-12-2007, 07:01 PM
Pyro. I don't think that Hawkeye could get an arrow near Pyro without it being blocked by flame, which can be made solid. Pyro may be intellectually unimpressive but he has a huge power edge that can be used both offensively and defensively.
Diamanthus
01-12-2007, 07:34 PM
Couldnt Hawkeye just get a hose and just hose him down with water and then say "***h this is how prison ******* get showers" Inside Joke
incubat
01-12-2007, 07:49 PM
hawkeye, arrows are too fast for pyro
DACMAN
01-12-2007, 09:38 PM
Hawkeye
Vanguard07
01-12-2007, 10:35 PM
Pyro without a doubt. Gigantic power advantage.
DACMAN
01-13-2007, 12:00 AM
Training and experience go a long way. More so when both are learned from Captain America.
Venom.Symbiote
01-13-2007, 12:59 AM
This fight all depends on who gets the first attack in. Neither could truly defend against the other's in my opinion. Setting Hawkeye on fire or putting an arrow through Pyro's head (or anywhere else for that matter) would pretty much be the end of the fight. Even though I think it's a toss up, I'll give it to Hawkeye because I think he's a tad bit more resourceful than Pyro. :venom:
3dman27
01-13-2007, 06:27 AM
hawkeye
bkhedr
01-13-2007, 07:07 AM
Clint
Silicon Surfer
01-13-2007, 08:24 AM
Pyro can create solid flames capable of blocking arrows as well as incinerating them. Surrounded by solid flames such as he uses to pick up people he would be virtually immune to all Hawkeye's attacks.
Iceman/Psylocke
01-13-2007, 08:30 AM
Pyro has a natural level of defence against Hawkeye's attacks giving him a narrow advantage.
X-Girl_135
01-13-2007, 12:22 PM
Pyro, because he rocks. haha
DACMAN
01-13-2007, 01:13 PM
Pyro can create solid flames capable of blocking arrows as well as incinerating them. Surrounded by solid flames such as he uses to pick up people he would be virtually immune to all Hawkeye's attacks.
He has adamantium tipped arrows.
Bastila
01-13-2007, 01:16 PM
hawkeye
CrypticOne
01-13-2007, 04:14 PM
I'll give a vote to Pyro.
Cyrusbales
01-13-2007, 04:18 PM
i'm still undecided on this one, swaying towards pyro though. solid walls of fire, kinda a bonus
Vanguard07
01-13-2007, 07:05 PM
He has adamantium tipped arrows.
Doesnt matter, Adamantium isnt magic it's just a strong metal.
Adamantium tipped or not his arrows wouldnt have enough power behind them to punch through Pyro's defenses.
Look at it this way, Adamantium bullets fired at a steel wall wouldnt do much more than normal bullets unless they're fired from a ridiculously powerful gun.
Adamantium bullets would be intact but they'd still be deflected.
Same with Adamantium tipped arrows.
Venom.Symbiote
01-13-2007, 07:18 PM
The question that comes to mind now is: "Just how solid can he make his flames?" Saying solid enough to support a person doesn't say much since a substantial amount of liquid can support a person. Snow is technically a solid but I'm sure an arrow can penetrate it. Plus, there's lots of things that can put out fires and I'm sure Hawkeye has an arrow made for just that. :venom:
Sparta*
01-14-2007, 04:05 AM
8 - 6 for Hawkeye so far
The_Vision
01-14-2007, 06:28 AM
Hawkeye
Apprentice
01-14-2007, 06:29 AM
Pyro...barely. I just don't see hawkeye getting off an arrow before St John fries him.
Genesis 1.0
01-14-2007, 09:54 AM
Hawkeye's easily the more experienced and battle hardened of the two and his marksmanship is pretty much without flaw for a human. The thing that cinches it here is less power than it is the speed of attack or defense. Clint can let loose an arrow so fast most people would be be dead in a matter of moments. However, Pyro's ability to manipulate fire is MENTAL, therefore it's at the speed of thought and BOOM, instant defense or attack. Seeing as Clint carries a bow and arrows, all it takes is Pyro seeing that and he's going to defend. Now unless there's some unfair stip where Clint gets dropped BEHIND Pyro or some such idiocy, then Pyro's automatically going to be on the defensive with his flames.
In the time it takes for Clint to nock an arrow and let loose, it's deflected or consumed in flame. Now here's another bonus, Pyro's wall of flame is capable of defense AND attack, we've seen it before. The wall of flames blocks the attacks while steadily expanding outward, burning anything in it's path to cinders. Hawkeye's good but not good enough to avoid even a 20 foot wall of fire expanding at him at rapid speed that's also deflecting his attacks. Good but not good enough.
Pyro
KevanG
01-14-2007, 01:00 PM
Not to mention Hawkeye was killed once already because his arrows caught on fire :p
Cyrusbales
01-14-2007, 01:40 PM
Ok, I've made up mind now, definately Pyro, been looking at some online comics and Pyro takes it
Anubis
01-14-2007, 03:11 PM
I'm gonna go with Hawkeye. There's a lot more in that quiver than explosive arrows and adamantium tipped arrows. Take out Pyro's concentration with say, some sonic arrows or something, and he loses control. He can control fire, doesn't mean he's flame resistant. He might end up burning himself alive if you know what you're doing.
Apprentice
01-14-2007, 03:19 PM
Hawkeye's easily the more experienced and battle hardened of the two and his marksmanship is pretty much without flaw for a human. The thing that cinches it here is less power than it is the speed of attack or defense. Clint can let loose an arrow so fast most people would be be dead in a matter of moments. However, Pyro's ability to manipulate fire is MENTAL, therefore it's at the speed of thought and BOOM, instant defense or attack.
So you're saying that Clint can shoot an arrow faster than the speed of thought? By that logic, he doesn't have to think about getting the arrow, loading the arrow, aiming, and releasing the bow. Erm...no.
1987olds442
01-14-2007, 03:28 PM
Hawkeye
The Chibi Kiriyama
01-14-2007, 03:31 PM
So you're saying that Clint can shoot an arrow faster than the speed of thought? By that logic, he doesn't have to think about getting the arrow, loading the arrow, aiming, and releasing the bow. Erm...no.
He's not saying that at all. He's saying that Pyro's pyrokenisis is at the speed of thought. Hawkeye's archery skill is very fast, but does not move at the speed of thought.
Hence my vote for Pyro.
Apprentice
01-14-2007, 03:39 PM
Oops, misread his post. Thought he was voting for Hawkeye. Sorry, Genesis.
Cyrusbales
01-14-2007, 03:40 PM
hasn't pyro stopped bullets? Don't think he'll have much trouble with arrows
spiderwasp
01-14-2007, 04:23 PM
Hawkeye has more tricks and is more clever. We're not talking about ordinary arrows- a sonic arrow for example wouldn't have to make contact with Pyro to affect him. If he only had normal arrows, he wouldn't stand a chance. Robin Hood would get burned.
Hawkeye.
kytrigger
01-14-2007, 04:29 PM
Even Hawkeye's sonic arrows are just devices that would burn up when hit with Pyro's flame though.
Pyro
Colossal Spoons
01-14-2007, 05:11 PM
Rogue vs. Dazzler:
http://www.geocities.com/rogue1863/Dazzler24xB4.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/rogue1863/Dazzler24xB6.jpg
Rogue "vs." Colossus:
http://www.geocities.com/xmenpics7/XMenandAlphaFlight1xB9.jpg
Rogue "vs." Longshot:
http://www.geocities.com/roguewhat001/XMenAnnual12xB5.jpg
Yeah....those are recent :)
DACMAN
01-14-2007, 05:19 PM
Doesnt matter, Adamantium isnt magic it's just a strong metal.
Adamantium tipped or not his arrows wouldnt have enough power behind them to punch through Pyro's defenses.
Look at it this way, Adamantium bullets fired at a steel wall wouldnt do much more than normal bullets unless they're fired from a ridiculously powerful gun.
Adamantium bullets would be intact but they'd still be deflected.
Same with Adamantium tipped arrows.If he can make walls of fire so strong, it can be compared to a real wall, then that's just stupid. At this point he might as well just be using magic. So with that in mind, I'd vote Hawkeye, for not being as lame.
Foggy Nelson
01-14-2007, 05:22 PM
Hawkeye, for not being lame :)
DACMAN
01-14-2007, 05:37 PM
Right.:up:
The Chibi Kiriyama
01-14-2007, 06:16 PM
If he can make walls of fire so strong, it can be compared to a real wall, then that's just stupid. At this point he might as well just be using magic.
How so? There have been cases where he has created puppet-esque objects out of the flame that do not think independently. They would naturally be as equally solid as any wall. This is a canon ability, and has nothing to do with magic. He's just capable of focusing combustion with his fuel to the point that it's as harduous to penetrate as a real thing.
Toby_Temple
01-14-2007, 07:05 PM
Pyro wins this. It's already fact that Pyro can protect himself from projectile attacks through his fire by creating a wall with it. Pyro might not be a professional strategist but he's no imbecile. He knows his powers well enough to maintain his advantage against Hawkeye. He could engulf Hawkeye with fire and the heat would knock him out before burning him.
CanaryFan
01-14-2007, 08:40 PM
Pyro, just too much advantage.
Exploding Boy
01-14-2007, 11:50 PM
Hawkeye.
funeman_5
01-15-2007, 12:14 AM
Hawkeye
Toby_Temple
01-15-2007, 12:18 AM
^ care to explain why?
funeman_5
01-15-2007, 01:01 AM
^ care to explain why?
Because no parameters were established I assumed (yeah, I know what assumptions do) the participants would be given either prep time or put into a "sterile" environment, i.e. a open field, stadium, whatever. With that established, at the start, I believe Hawkeye would get the drop on Pyro because of sheer speed/reaction time...getting off an explosive/concussion arrow. Pyro has no defenses against concussion (heat and flame have no effect on concussion waves), regardless of how much of a wall he puts up (not that he'd have time considering the speed with which an arrow moves). Even if he's disoriented for only a fraction of a second, that's all Hawkeye would need.
Of course all this goes out the window depending on the circumstances they are put into, for instance if there's sufficient distance between them, time for Pyro to get going, etc. Hawkeye doesn't stand a chance.
Sparta*
01-15-2007, 08:56 PM
15 - 13 is the final tally for Hawkeye
spartin2008
01-15-2007, 09:45 PM
Throw a vote pyro's way, wont make a difference but do it anyway :D
Sparta*
01-15-2007, 09:52 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg
ANT-MAN
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Antman.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp
THE WASP
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Wasp.jpg
Sparta*
01-15-2007, 09:54 PM
The Ant-man in this match-up is Scott Lang
Colossal Spoons
01-15-2007, 10:09 PM
The Ant-man in this match-up is Scott Lang
Boooo. There go all my spousal abuse jokes :D
Silicon Surfer
01-15-2007, 10:46 PM
The Wasp easily. Flight, reaction time, enhanced strength when shrunk, and bioelectric stings. Against that is shrinking and ant control. A What If had the Wasp killing Loki although her power were magically augmented somewhat. She killed him instantly.
funeman_5
01-15-2007, 11:04 PM
^Ditto...Wasp
spartin2008
01-15-2007, 11:08 PM
ummmmmmm....Odd Match....but i go wasp also, too, aswell:D
AndThePickles
01-15-2007, 11:09 PM
Wasp for me too.
incubat
01-15-2007, 11:36 PM
one wasp coming up
Anubis
01-15-2007, 11:42 PM
The Wasp easily. Flight, reaction time, enhanced strength when shrunk, and bioelectric stings. Against that is shrinking and ant control. A What If had the Wasp killing Loki although her power were magically augmented somewhat. She killed him instantly.
He's got the same powers. Even the bioelectric stingers.
I'm gonna throw a vote to Lang because the guy gets no respect.
Colossal Spoons
01-15-2007, 11:46 PM
^Ditto.
Silicon Surfer
01-15-2007, 11:46 PM
He's got the same powers. Even the bioelectric stingers.
I'm gonna throw a vote to Lang because the guy gets no respect.
They must have beefed him up then. It's been a long time since I saw him and then he had none of those powers.
The Chibi Kiriyama
01-15-2007, 11:50 PM
He's got the same powers. Even the bioelectric stingers.
I'm gonna throw a vote to Lang because the guy gets no respect.
Same vote for me, same sentiment.
Anubis
01-15-2007, 11:50 PM
He got the Stingers back in the late 90's I believe.
Sparta*
01-16-2007, 12:23 AM
The Wasp easily. Flight, reaction time, enhanced strength when shrunk, and bioelectric stings. Against that is shrinking and ant control. A What If had the Wasp killing Loki although her power were magically augmented somewhat. She killed him instantly.
I read that 'What If' :up: It was cool
Vanguard07
01-16-2007, 12:29 AM
I'll throw a vote to scotty.
Silicon Surfer
01-16-2007, 12:40 AM
I read that 'What If' :up: It was cool
Yeah, mind blowing.:)
BatGuy63
01-16-2007, 01:48 AM
Ant Man
bkhedr
01-16-2007, 02:34 AM
Jan
Sloth7d
01-16-2007, 03:20 AM
Jan was beat on by one Antman, she'll be beat by this one too. Scott.
3dman27
01-16-2007, 06:18 AM
THE WASP[/FONT]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Wasp.jpg
JAN:ninja:
CanaryFan
01-16-2007, 07:08 AM
one on one the wasp would probably take it but there is no stipulation against Antman bringing in an army of 1,000's of ants.
Antman.
SpyderZak
01-16-2007, 10:21 AM
Just Joining in, AntMan would win, but she'd have to beat his corpse since he's dead....RIP:(
Foggy Nelson
01-16-2007, 11:44 AM
Scott Lang, because he rocked. While he lasted.
Mistress Gluon
01-16-2007, 12:20 PM
Jan.
1987olds442
01-16-2007, 01:44 PM
Ant-man
Crimson_L
01-16-2007, 02:27 PM
The Wasp.
Cyrusbales
01-16-2007, 06:07 PM
ant man, he's got pretty much the same abilities and has beter intelligence
funeman_5
01-16-2007, 11:35 PM
Jan was beat on by one Antman, she'll be beat by this one too. Scott.
Just wrong dude...LMFAO...but wrong! :woot:
Silicon Surfer
01-17-2007, 12:02 AM
one on one the wasp would probably take it but there is no stipulation against Antman bringing in an army of 1,000's of ants.
Antman.
Ants don't fly except for the males and queens. I don't think that male ants fight.
Sloth7d
01-17-2007, 12:12 AM
Ants don't fly except for the males and queens. I don't think that male ants fight.
Comics don't always stick close to real world science. I do remember Hank Pym getting a hoard of flying ants to aid him in battle before.
Apprentice
01-17-2007, 03:17 AM
Ant-Man.
Sparta*
01-17-2007, 03:22 AM
Boooo. There go all my spousal abuse jokes :D
Lol, sorry, used Pym last time :oldrazz:
I'll vote for the wasp, bringing the current tally to 13 - 9 for Ant-man
primemover
01-17-2007, 05:56 AM
Antman and his army of Ants.
CanaryFan
01-17-2007, 06:19 AM
Ants don't fly except for the males and queens. I don't think that male ants fight.
I don't think that's right but it doesn't really matter. They follow his commands and all they would have to do is swarm her and give him a chance to take her out.
Venom.Symbiote
01-19-2007, 03:02 AM
I'm voting for Wasp. All she has to do is stomp the ants to mush then shrink down and take out Lang. Provided that he sends the army of ants to their deaths first of course. If the swarm is too much for her to stomp as a full sized adult then it's not really Ant-Man defeating her but the ants so it would be a tainted victory at best. :venom:
Anubis
01-19-2007, 12:16 PM
A wins a win.
Cyrusbales
01-19-2007, 12:17 PM
new match soon perhaps?
Genesis 1.0
01-19-2007, 01:14 PM
I'll throw in a vote for Wasp as well.
Sparta*
01-19-2007, 08:22 PM
Ant-man wins, next match-up shortly...
Sparta*
01-19-2007, 08:29 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg
LADY DEATHSTRIKE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/LadyDeathstrike2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp
ARCHANGEL
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/Archangel3.jpg
Paloogin
01-19-2007, 09:40 PM
Ooooh, interesting. I think that, overall, whilst Deathstrike has the greater natural assets (in terms of adamantium, not boobies), Archangel is the more proficient and athletic combatant. I think for this round, I shall plump for:
Archangel
Colossal Spoons
01-19-2007, 09:49 PM
Good match. What are the extents of LD's healing factor?
CanaryFan
01-19-2007, 09:57 PM
Archangel-range and speed.
X-Girl_135
01-19-2007, 10:08 PM
Lady Deathstrike is good but I think ArchAngel is better. By the looks of things in the picture, are we to assume that Warren had the metal wings?
Either way, my vote goes to the winged wonder.
incubat
01-19-2007, 10:41 PM
warren
Sparta*
01-19-2007, 11:05 PM
Lady Deathstrike is good but I think ArchAngel is better. By the looks of things in the picture, are we to assume that Warren had the metal wings?
Either way, my vote goes to the winged wonder.
It's Warren with metal wings...otherwise I would have written Angel as opposed to Archangel :p
Ockham
01-20-2007, 04:33 AM
Archangel gets my vote. Flight and powerful ranged attacks trump close-range slashing with adamantium claws. :yay:
Sloth7d
01-20-2007, 06:14 AM
I think Lady Death Strike is a better strategist, and that would make up for the flight disadvantage. She gets my vote.
Silicon Surfer
01-20-2007, 06:19 AM
Archangel, he can fight without ever coming within range.
Halcohol
01-20-2007, 06:22 AM
I don't know. As much as I like Warren, even after he became Archangel, I still think that Lady Deathstrike's healing ability would make up for any loss in strategy to Archangel's hit-and-run attacks. Also, whatever his wings are made out of, it can't be as strong as adamantium. He's screwed.
Apprentice
01-20-2007, 06:27 AM
Archangel; without his enahnced wings, though, it'd would've gone to deathstrike. Sparta, I'm about to PM you about a match.
primemover
01-20-2007, 06:35 AM
Lady Deathstrike, she'd shred those wings.
Silicon Surfer
01-20-2007, 06:58 AM
I don't know. As much as I like Warren, even after he became Archangel, I still think that Lady Deathstrike's healing ability would make up for any loss in strategy to Archangel's hit-and-run attacks. Also, whatever his wings are made out of, it can't be as strong as adamantium. He's screwed.
There's still the neurotoxin on the feathers. It was powerful enought to affect Wolverine.
Cyrusbales
01-20-2007, 07:36 AM
Archangel, he can just fly and use ranged atacks, easy peasey.
primemover
01-20-2007, 07:48 AM
Archangel, he can just fly and use ranged atacks, easy peasey.
and what ranged attacks would those be?
Cyrusbales
01-20-2007, 07:57 AM
and what ranged attacks would those be?
neuro toxin darts he an fire from his wings
Silicon Surfer
01-20-2007, 08:03 AM
He can fire volleys of metallic feathers from his wings that are razor sharp and coated with a potent neurotoxin. New feathers instantly grow in to replace the ones that were fired giving him an almost inexhaustable supply.
Foggy Nelson
01-20-2007, 08:26 AM
Archangel
funeman_5
01-20-2007, 08:32 AM
Archangel:ninja:
Victor Von Doom
01-20-2007, 09:15 AM
Lady deathstike would take this one.
Warhammer
01-20-2007, 11:09 AM
Lady deathstike
Anubis
01-20-2007, 01:56 PM
Archangel
bkhedr
01-20-2007, 02:02 PM
Lady Deathstrike
3dman27
01-20-2007, 02:08 PM
arch
Sparta*
01-20-2007, 02:35 PM
12 - 6 for Warren so far...
ssj wolverine
01-20-2007, 02:43 PM
Warren would just continually drop bombs from the air and she is toast.
Venom.Symbiote
01-20-2007, 04:30 PM
If they are outside then Warren has a HUGE advantage but if they're inside a much smaller area then the advantage goes to Deathstrike. Without knowing the location of the battle it's hard to say who'd win. :venom:
Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 04:35 PM
Can LD simply heal from anything Warren dishes out?
AndThePickles
01-20-2007, 04:45 PM
Seriously, I can't vote for this until I know the extent of Deathstrike's healing factor.
Cyrusbales
01-20-2007, 06:02 PM
well DS healing isn't gonna be stronger than Wolverine's, and archangles neurotoxin was enough to take down wolverine
trustyside-kick
01-20-2007, 08:36 PM
Archangel
BatGuy63
01-20-2007, 10:12 PM
Lady Deathstrike
Colossal Spoons
01-20-2007, 10:17 PM
Archangel then
AndThePickles
01-20-2007, 10:32 PM
well DS healing isn't gonna be stronger than Wolverine's, and archangles neurotoxin was enough to take down wolverine
Ok, Archangel then.
Venom.Symbiote
01-20-2007, 11:24 PM
After reading a bit more on Deathstrike, I decided to cast my vote for her. Since she seems to be more machine now, thanks to Spiral's cybernetic augmentations, and I don't think Warren's toxin would affect her that much. Mostly because if the feathers hit anything other than human flesh (which she apparently doesn't have an overabundance of) it would be wasted. She could easily feign defeat in hopes that Warren (he's kind of cocky so there's a really good chance of this) would drop his guard and get close enough for her to get her sharp little claws on him. At arm's legnth, he doesn't have a chance. :venom:
Vanguard07
01-21-2007, 12:23 AM
Warren. Far better range, far better mobility, the high ground, more experience.
He'd pick her apart.
Genesis 1.0
01-21-2007, 08:53 AM
Venom/Sym, you make a valid point for the lack of effect possible from the toxin, it's an avenue I hadn't thought about seeing as she is a cyborg. However, the end result slides for Warren because of the range primarily and the fact that even machines can be destroyed, self repairing ones as well. She can also be knocked out or overloaded from pain or damage, otherwise no one short of upper levels would defeat her. A very innovative bout I must say.
Archangel
Toby_Temple
01-21-2007, 06:31 PM
I'm voting for Archangel. Lady Deathstrike's biggest weakness is that she is emotionally disturbed and this always affects her efficiency. It would be a long and hard bout but once this side of Yoriko starts to kick in Warren's gonna take her out.
spartin2008
01-21-2007, 08:54 PM
Archangel
BrianWilly
01-21-2007, 09:11 PM
If it's in his metal dagger wings Archangel guise, then yes Warren takes it. If it were right now, though, Deathstrike would rip him apart. I mean, I know that Warren ends up being far more useful than you'd think, but come on...his superpower is flying.
Silicon Surfer
01-21-2007, 09:23 PM
Think about the penetration power of a blunt rifle bullet and remember that Arcangels feathers are traveling at similar velocity and are razor sharp. Excuse me, they can travel at similar velocity.
Crimson_L
01-21-2007, 10:01 PM
Archangel, for sure.
Midnight Ice
01-22-2007, 02:07 PM
Arcangel:xmen:
1987olds442
01-22-2007, 04:12 PM
Lady Deathstrike
ookami
01-23-2007, 04:36 AM
Archangel
Sparta*
01-25-2007, 11:15 AM
Archangel wins, next match-up shortly...
Sparta*
01-25-2007, 11:25 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg
AURORA
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/Sparta28/Aurora.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/vs.bmp
NORTHSTAR
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a10/Sparta29/Northstar.jpg
CanaryFan
01-25-2007, 11:29 AM
I say Aurora takes it.
bkhedr
01-25-2007, 12:02 PM
Northstar
Foggy Nelson
01-25-2007, 12:18 PM
Northstar
Apprentice
01-25-2007, 12:21 PM
Northstar.
funeman_5
01-25-2007, 12:43 PM
Northstar...he seems to be more willing to hurt someone and that aggressiveness would win it over Aurora. :ninja:
macculate
01-25-2007, 01:18 PM
Northstar
Ockham
01-25-2007, 01:30 PM
Northstar. Faster, stronger, more violent.
3dman27
01-25-2007, 02:26 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Sparta27/NewLogo.jpg
AURORA
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the lady takes it:ninja:
Crimson_L
01-25-2007, 02:42 PM
Aurora, just because.
Sparta*
01-25-2007, 02:59 PM
6 - 3 for Northstar so far....
Silicon Surfer
01-25-2007, 03:07 PM
Northstar. Bigger,stronger, more aggressive.
supermarvelman
01-25-2007, 03:19 PM
Northstar, he's a man plain and simple. Yes I'm a sexist pig, same powers, he's a man she's a woman. Northstar takes it, simply cause he has balls.
Paloogin
01-25-2007, 04:10 PM
Northstar. Wikipedia says he can hurt the Hulk. Simple.
primemover
01-25-2007, 04:12 PM
Northstar
Vanguard07
01-25-2007, 04:19 PM
Northstar, he's a man plain and simple. Yes I'm a sexist pig, same powers, he's a man she's a woman. Northstar takes it, simply cause he has balls.
Their powers arent exactly the same actually. Aurora has a few abilities that Northstar doesnt.
And besides, he's gay. That completely counters his "having balls" factor. They're practically both women.
However I'm inclined to agree that Northstar is more prone to violence and is better at it despite the fact that he's probably the less powerful of the two. Therefor I'm casting my vote for him.
Colossal Spoons
01-25-2007, 04:43 PM
Northstar
Silicon Surfer
01-25-2007, 05:28 PM
When Sasquatch changed her genetic makeup to enable her to generate light on her own she lost most of her speed. I don't know if the subsequent changes in her power restored that speed or not. She lost probably more than 90% of her potential speed at one time although I can't recall at the moment what they said that her new top speed was. She was at that time considerably slower than Northstar.
Anubis
01-25-2007, 06:48 PM
Northstar
supermarvelman
01-25-2007, 07:13 PM
Their powers arent exactly the same actually. Aurora has a few abilities that Northstar doesnt.
And besides, he's gay. That completely counters his "having balls" factor. They're practically both women.
However I'm inclined to agree that Northstar is more prone to violence and is better at it despite the fact that he's probably the less powerful of the two. Therefor I'm casting my vote for him.
:woot: :woot: :woot:
Cyrusbales
01-25-2007, 07:18 PM
Northstar, slightly better costume and the more harcore agressiveness :)
although no boobs.....
K4tzm4n
01-25-2007, 11:23 PM
"And besides, he's gay. That completely counters his "having balls" factor. They're practically both women."
Um...Unless he's majorly flamboyant I don't see his sexuality having an effect on his fighting ability, lol.
1987olds442
01-26-2007, 02:04 AM
Aurora
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