Marvel Comics Character Tournament!!!

[3dman27]

i just tried to email sparta* about this but his pm box is full:ninja:

if anybody knows how to contact sparta* outside of SHH could you let him know the boards are getting back to normal here so he can poist some more matches? thanks

[Phaedrus45]

Since Sparta has been gone for a while, in the past he had some of us help him out while he was busy. I'll post a match real soon; but, why don't some of us who Sparta's used in the past help him out. I think the only criteria should be that Sparta's asked for your help previously; hopefully, there are more than just me still around.

Why don't those who Sparta's used previously PM me and we can work out a schedule until Sparta returns. (I probably won't do much, as I'm busy with the Contest of Marvels on a pretty daily basic. But, a schedule would help out and having us post will help out, since we've all been relegated to our own little room.)

[Phaedrus45]

Hopefully this hasn't already been posted as a previous match.

New, New Avengers (Echo, Ronin, Doctor Strange, Wolverine, Spider-Woman, Spider-Man, Iron Fist, and Luke Cage.)

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VS.

The Mighty Avengers(Ares, Black Widow, Iron Man, Ms. Marvel, The Sentry, Wasp, and Wonder Man)

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[3dman27]

the new avengers

[Phaedrus45]

The Mighty Avengers

I think they have more power players, like Ares, Iron Man, Ms. Marvel, Sentry, and Wonder Man. The only thing that tells me that New Avengers might take it is what Dr. Strange brings to the mix.

[Anubis]

The new Avengers, as we've just seen in New Avengers, Dr. Strange pwns all.

[White_Howling]

New Avengers!!!

Dr Strange Rules All

[Toby_Temple]

As long as the Dr. Strange is with them, the New Avengers wins this match.

[Silicon Surfer]

The New Avengers

[incubat]

new avengers

[Horseman Gambit]

Dr. Strange is what makes this a Win for the New Avengers

[Spidey]

Yep, I've gotta agree. NA wins.

[Paloogin]

I have to go with the group decision and say the New Avengers. The Mighty clan are indeed mighty, but the triple team of Wolverine, Spiderman and Doc Strange means that the New'uns take this one...

[Sloth7d]

Na.

[Lady Stormcrow]

The Newbie Avengers

[Bastila]

New Avengers

[Phaedrus45]

New Avengers kill the Mighty Avengers 12-1!

New match coming soon. (On a side note, I've asked 3dman27 to help out tomorrow, Saturday and Sunday if he's able. Until Sparta comes back, hopefully he and I can keep the tournament going. If there are matches people would love to see, go ahead and PM me and I'll try to get some of them up.)

[Phaedrus45]

Battle Of The Power Couples!!!


MR. FANTASTIC/INVISIBLE WOMAN

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VS.

BLACK PANTHER/STORM

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[Silicon Surfer]

I have to go with the group decision and say the New Avengers. The Mighty clan are indeed mighty, but the triple team of Wolverine, Spiderman and Doc Strange means that the New'uns take this one...

Wolverine was one of the ones I considered to be too weak to be a factor in that fight. Spider Woman was the third that I considered to be the deciding factor.

Reed/Sue for the current fight.

[White_Howling]

Reed and Sue

[Phaedrus45]

I'll probably be the only vote again...but, I'm going with Black Panther and Storm. Reed's very intelligent; but, Black Panther just seems much wiser when it comes to the actual battle. He knows Reed and Sue and he'll know how to defeat them. Also, Storm can stay airborn and is one of Marvel's most powerful superheroes....she's just not depicted that way very often.

[Toby_Temple]

Reed and Sue. Invisibility has its advantage then you have one of the greatest minds in Marvel.

[hippy fascist]

reed and sue

[Silicon Surfer]

I'll probably be the only vote again...but, I'm going with Black Panther and Storm. Reed's very intelligent; but, Black Panther just seems much wiser when it comes to the actual battle. He knows Reed and Sue and he'll know how to defeat them. Also, Storm can stay airborn and is one of Marvel's most powerful superheroes....she's just not depicted that way very often.

If Sue puts her into a force field Storm is cut off from the wind and is ground bound. She would probably be cut off from the elements altogether and thus powerless.

[incubat]

invisibility isn't that great against black panther...so I'll go with Ororo and T'Challa

[Crimson_L]

Sue by herself wins this.

[3dman27]

susie and stretcho

[Spidey]

Definitely the Richards.

[Ahura Mazda]

The Richards given IW could cut off the oxygen.

[Bastila]

Reed and Sue

[Sloth7d]

Sue is too powerful, but I do think BP can come up with a plan to stop them.
BP and Storm.

[The Shredder]

hmm...

Reed and Sue I guess ...

[Paloogin]

Reed and Sue have got the far superior track record in terms of bad guys sent packing, so I'll go for them. It'd be a hell of a tussle though.

[Phaedrus45]

Mr. Fantastic/Invisible Woman are still the Power Couple, defeating Black Panther/Storm 11-3.

A new battle coming soon.

[Phaedrus45]

X-23

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VS.

Kitty Pryde

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[Spidey]

I don't know how, but Shadowcat would come out on top.

[Bastila]

Kitty by far!!!! she is a great character.

[Sloth7d]

X-23

[White_Howling]

X-23

[Phaedrus45]

This is a tough one for me. Location of the match could even greatly influence the outcome. I'm going to figure since Kitty's been trained by the best, Wolverine, she'll know how to defeat X-23.

Kitty Pryde is my choice.

[BrianWilly]

Kitty Pryde.

She turns herself intangible. What's X going to do then? Swing at nothing really hard? Meanwhile goes ninja and solidifies her hand inside X-23's brain. Match over.

[incubat]

Kitty

[Horseman Gambit]

Kitty

[The Shredder]

Kitty as well.

[3dman27]

X-23

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VS.

Kitty Pryde

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kitty btw x-23 must be a xena fan thats who she looks like on her cover:ninja:

[Ahura Mazda]

Kitty - her powers make her difficult to beat

[Phaedrus45]

In case anyone is interested, I found a corner of The Hype where Sparta* was located, and his PM box is available to message now.

[Phaedrus45]

Kitty Pryde defeats X-23 9-2!!!

Next Match-up coming soon.

(Side note: Sparta will be back. As 3dman said, he's peeved that the Hype has such a damn lag to it. For the time being, I'll be helping him out, until he feels like returning.)

[Phaedrus45]

BLADE

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VS.

PUNISHER

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[Spidey]

Punnybear.

[Sloth7d]

Blade

[Phaedrus45]

Blade

[Canadian Rider]

Blade ... speed over guns

[Bastila]

Blade

[Silicon Surfer]

Blade

[Vanguard07]

In a straight up match? Blade.
I do believe though, that if Frank set out to bring Blade down he could pull it off.

[incubat]

Blade

[Paloogin]

Punisher, deffo. He can kill pretty much anything.

[Phaedrus45]

Blade defeats the Punisher 7-2

[Phaedrus45]

NOVA

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VS.

MAESTRO

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[Paloogin]

As kick ass as Richie has been during Annhilation, the Maestro is the Maestro.

My vote goes to the man who looks closest to my Grandad as a super hero (and what a scary image that is for me):

The Maestro

[Sloth7d]

Maestro

[The Punisher]

Maestro

[incubat]

I really don't know them that much

[Vanguard07]

Nova without question. At this point he's way too much for the brute. And while if Nova was stupid about it Maestro technically COULD take him, the Xandar worldmind in his head kinda precludes that sort of thing.

[BrianWilly]

Nova.

[Toby_Temple]

Depends. Is the Nova in this battle the one during Annihilation?

[Silicon Surfer]

Nova, without effort.

[3dman27]

the man called NOVA:hyper:

[Harlekin]

Nova

[Ahura Mazda]

From what I learnned about Nova, I still think Maestro could take it. The healing factor does enable Maestro to heal from all the injuries Nova could deal him and Maestro could move at a great enough speed and with enough strength to bring Nova down. This is not as clear cut as it seems.

[Spidey]

Nova.

[Phaedrus45]

Depends. Is the Nova in this battle the one during Annihilation?

Yes.

[Phaedrus45]

Maestro

[Colossal Spoons]

Nova

[Bastila]

Nova

[Toby_Temple]

Yes.
Then Nova wins this match.

[Phaedrus45]

Nova defeats Maestro 9-5

[Phaedrus45]

MAGNETO

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VS.

THOR

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[Silicon Surfer]

Magneto

[incubat]

uh
interesting one...i'll give it to thor

[Vanguard07]

Thor.

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

I give this to Thor, if only because even with Magneto's power I have a very hard time seeing him take this one from the Asgardian powerhouse.

[Toby_Temple]

Thor. Asgardian magic plus sheer strength, durability and speed are too much for the Master of Magnetism.

[Silicon Surfer]

Magneto's powers enable him to augment his strength to levels similar to Thor, and he has martial arts skills as well so even on a physical level Magneto can give him a fight. His magnetism affects uru as well so he can manipulate Thor's hammer. Thor's lightning would only make Magneto stronger while Magneto can manipulate Thor's blood. Thor did fight Magneto long ago and couldn't defeat him. Thor's godforce is too slow to use on Magneto who would not give him the time he needs.

[3dman27]

the god of thunder

[Phaedrus45]

Magneto

[Ahura Mazda]

Thor because I do not see how he could affect Mjollnir with his powers.

[Paloogin]

I'd say Magneto. Mags can handle himself in a fight (as ridiculous as that is) with Thor, a metal hammer, no matter how magic the metal is, is still pointless against a master of magnetism, and lightning would just give Eric nice burst of juice.

Magneto.

[Paloogin]

I'd say Magneto. Mags can handle himself in a fight (as ridiculous as that is) with Thor, a metal hammer, no matter how magic the metal is, is still pointless against a master of magnetism, and lightning would just give Eric nice burst of juice.

Magneto.

[Crimson_L]

Thor.

[Toby_Temple]

Magneto's powers enable him to augment his strength to levels similar to Thor, and he has martial arts skills as well so even on a physical level Magneto can give him a fight. His magnetism affects uru as well so he can manipulate Thor's hammer. Thor's lightning would only make Magneto stronger while Magneto can manipulate Thor's blood. Thor did fight Magneto long ago and couldn't defeat him. Thor's godforce is too slow to use on Magneto who would not give him the time he needs.

I doubt that. Mjolnir is magical in nature. Even Hulk could not lift. What made you think magnetism can do anything to it?

AndThor's strength parred well against Hulk. I don't see Magneto augmenting his to that level.

[Phaedrus45]

THOR defeats MAGNETO 7-2

[Phaedrus45]

DEATHLOK

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VS.

NIGHTCRAWLER

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[Colossal Spoons]

Phae, you might wanna let these matches run for a day or 2 longer. :up:

[Sloth7d]

On the last one I say Thor.
On current I say Nightcrawler.

[incubat]

wow...really fast matches...but people ARE voting again...hmm...I'll go with mr. kurt wagner

[Silicon Surfer]

Nightcrawler.
And I say that Magneto can manipulate Mjolnir because he has. He fought the Avengers and the FF and dragged Thor around by his hammer and generally treated him with contempt. That's the only part that I still remember though, him toying with Thor.

[Phaedrus45]

Phae, you might wanna let these matches run for a day or 2 longer. :up:

Ok....if anyone wants to vote for Thor vs. Magneto, I'll continue to take votes for it and Nightcrawler vs. Deathlok. (I'm used to it being daily from back in the day; but, if it helps, I'll go every two days from now on.)

[Phaedrus45]

I vote for Deathlok.

[Vanguard07]

Crawler's too soft to use tactics that would actually be effective against Lok. He'd dodge around and probably be an annoyance for quite some time but i think Deathlok would eventually wear him down and defeat him.

Deathlok

[3dman27]

deathlok the demolisher

[Toby_Temple]

deathlok. the major factor here is who has the desire to kill. curt certainly is extremely low on that category.

[Sloth7d]

Wait. Then how come people vote for Kitty because of the broken ways power could be used despite her lack of a desire to kill?

[Vanguard07]

cause kitty's a f***ing Ninja.

[Canadian Rider]

Deathlok

[The Shredder]

Deathlok I suppose.

[Paloogin]

I'll go for Kurt, just cos I just re-watched the Nightcrawler cut-scene from Marvel: Ultimate Alliance, and that is Mr Wagner destroying a butt-load of Doombots, which is just cool.

Nightcrawler.

[Spidey]

I'll go Nightcrawler.

[Anubis]

Deathlok

[cerealkiller182]

Nightcrawler

[Phaedrus45]

Deathlok defeats Nightcrawler 7-6

[Phaedrus45]

Next one is going to be a little different. Two old Marvel properties fighting each other for the first time. (At least, I'm not sure they've ever been teamed up in the past.)

[Phaedrus45]

TARZAN

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VS.

CONAN THE BARBARIAN

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[Phaedrus45]

I'm going against my initial opinion. Since Tarzan can get the animals to assist him in the fight, I think he would be able to take the match. Of course, location would totally decide this thing. I'm picturing this in a more modern era than a barren wasteland.

Tarzan

[incubat]

I think Canadian Rider did this one as a special SNE, but I'll go with Conan...unless there are animals nearby...in that case, I'll go with Tarzan...

[3dman27]

CONAN THE BARBARIAN

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[Silicon Surfer]

Conan. His sword would enable him to defeat any animal as well.

[Sloth7d]

Tarzan ain't got nothin on Conan.

[Ultra-Herald9]

Conan. He would beat Tarzan even withought his sword easy.

[Ultra-Herald9]

Conan. He would beat Tarzan even without his sword easy.

[Vanguard07]

I'll vote Conan.

[Phaedrus45]

Jane better find a new man.

CONAN slays TARZAN 7-1

(Next up, a match inspired by this weekend's release of Spider-Man 3. The winner will take on The Green Goblin Friday.)

[Phaedrus45]

VENOM

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VS.

SANDMAN

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[Silicon Surfer]

Sandman easily.

[3dman27]

the beach bum

[incubat]

Venom

[Toby_Temple]

I've just watched Spider Man 3 movie last tuesday!
So I'm voting for Spidey!

[Canadian Rider]

Venom ... if Spidey can beat him, and Venom beat spidey ... Venom.

[Iron Fist]

Venom

[Vanguard07]

They fought before. Venom ate part of sandman and from the loss of part of his mass he lost his ability to control himself and deteriorated.

I see no reason why he wouldnt be able to do the same thing again.

Venom.

[incubat]

I ate sand once...but this has nothing to do with this since I'm neither a Spider nor an Alien

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

Venom. As mentioned, he once nearly killed the Sandman with a bite that disabled his ability to retain his mass. Even if he doesn't kill him, there isn't much Marko would do afterwards to win this one.

[Silicon Surfer]

Sandman retains control over the sand of his body even if it is separated from him. If Venom swallows some of Sandman then Sandy just gets to attack him from the inside.

[Sloth7d]

Venom

[Harlekin]

Venom. He almost killed Sandy before.

[Phaedrus45]

I've thought about it, and feel that 1) Sandman would have learned from his last battle and 2) if Venom did take a bite out of Sandman, I think it's pretty bad writing to say it effected him in that way. It seems as if Sandy's been hit, spit, and probably **** more times than he can count; but, Venom does it and he's all weak...I don't buy it.

Sandman

[Bastila]

Venom

[Iceman/Psylocke]

Venom

[Anubis]

Sandman. That win Venom got on him was bulls**t.

[The Shredder]

Sandman :up:

[Paloogin]

I'll say Venom. Sandman seems to be another character in the Marvel universe whose powers grant him incredible potential in combat. But I don't think Flint, like Max Dillon, has quite got the handle on his powers to use them to their full potential (despite having them now for 40 odd years).

Venom

[Phaedrus45]

VENOM defeats SANDMAN 10-5

Venom moves on to face the other villian in Spidey 3, Green Goblin, Harry version!

[Phaedrus45]

GREEN GOBLIN(HARRY OSBORN)

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VS.

VENOM (EDDIE BROCK)

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[3dman27]

harry/night goblin

[Sloth7d]

Venom again.

[Cyrusbales]

venom

[Bastila]

Venom

[Phaedrus45]

I think Green Goblin, Harry Version, could take this. He'll know Venom's weakness and have weapons to use against him.

[incubat]

venom eats harry's brain

[Paloogin]

I'll again plump for Venom. Harry never seemed to be quite as proficient in the Goblin arts as his old man, whereas Venom ended up being able to turn invisible. Now THERE'S a polar difference in application of science-given gifts.

Venom.

[Vanguard07]

I'll vote Harry. Sonics and fire are well within Harry's capabilities, hell they're a large part of his standard bag of tricks, throw in the advantage of flying, longer range and a far more versatile arsenal and he's got some insurmountable advantages.

Still though venom's gonna win because people think he's cooler and we all know this is a popularity contest.

[incubat]

^you got that right

[incubat]

^you got that right

[Toby_Temple]

I'll vote for Venom. He's just more cunning and more deadly than Spider-Man. Even if Harry can use Venom's weaknesses, he needs to surprise Venom to succeed, but we all know that Brock has spider sense so that would be quite hard.

[Harlekin]

Green Goblin

[Phaedrus45]

VENOM defeats GREEN GOBLIN 6-4

[Phaedrus45]

BLINK

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VS.

VISION (CLASSIC)

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[Silicon Surfer]

The Vision. More than Human reflexes and thermo-optic beams (heat vision).

[Canadian Rider]

Vision

[Toby_Temple]

I don't know. Blink's power is not to be taken lightly......

[Vanguard07]

I'll vote Blink. Vision's got no defense against being teleported to bits. Plus she's proven highly skilled at defending/evading. In a one on one Blink is incredibly formidable.

[incubat]

I'll go with Blink

[Harlekin]

Vision

[The Shredder]

The Vision

[3dman27]

vision

[Cyrusbales]

blink

[Phaedrus45]

Blink!

[Colossal Spoons]

Vision.

She can't hit him with those tp-spikes if he's phased.

[Paloogin]

Blink. Girl can use her teleportation things in strange and mysterious ways. Plus she got a in a huge pile of trouble in her Age of Apocalypse mini-series, involving Annihilus AND Blastaar, and she managed to get out of it. That takes balls.

I vots Blink*.

*This answer may also be influenced by my strange attraction to her purpleness. Weird.

[Lady Stormcrow]

Vision

[Colossal Spoons]

*This answer may also be influenced by my strange attraction to her purpleness. Weird.

I think Blink is the most attractive woman in comics. :heart:

[Ahura Mazda]

Vision - she can't do anything to him when he is phased and when he phases in with his hand through her brain she will be disabled.

[Paloogin]

Blink. Girl can use her teleportation things in strange and mysterious ways. Plus she got a in a huge pile of trouble in her Age of Apocalypse mini-series, involving Annihilus AND Blastaar, and she managed to get out of it. That takes balls.

I vots Blink*.

*This answer may also be influenced by my strange attraction to her purpleness. Weird.

[Phaedrus45]

Are you trying to vote twice, Paloogin?

[Paloogin]

It is weird though, cos Mystique does nothing for me, so it isn't just any funny coloured skinned fillies. Although the Mystique thing might be due to the small skull hair piece she insists on wearing. That girl...

[Anubis]

Didn't Blink beat him already? I forget. It's been awhile since I went through my Exiles comics.

[Bastila]

Blink

[Vanguard07]

Vision.

She can't hit him with those tp-spikes if he's phased.


Umm thats stupid. Yes she can. It's a spatial distortion. It's not a pointy object or anything. He'd be teleported and just appear intangible on the other side. (In one piece if she was feeling really nice).

[Paloogin]

I wasn't trying to vote twice, the bloody website was giving me jip. I think if I was going to try that I'd be extra sneaky and write something different. :)

I vote Blink!

(it was worth a shot)

[Phaedrus45]

VISION defeats BLINK 8-6

(8-7 if you count Toby's answer as a vote for Blink)

[Phaedrus45]

BLACK KNIGHT

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VS.

VALYKYRIE

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(Both characters have access to their flying horses. Consider it Classic Avengers version vs. Classic Defenders version)

[Silicon Surfer]

Valkyrie with great ease. 40 ton strength and the ability to attack with speed greater than Dane can even see. Thousands of years of battle experience of course don't mean a thing. :)

[Lady Stormcrow]

Valkyrie

[Phaedrus45]

I'm going with Black Knight. First, he has the Ebony Blade, which IMO is better than Valykrie's blade...and, second, he entrusted Valkyrie with her flying steed; so, it's possible he could take control of the horse away from her.

[Anubis]

BK for the win.

[Vanguard07]

Black knight to me seems more skilled with a blade and he's equipped with a far more powerful sword.
I would imagine that he could pull it off.

I vote Black Knight.

[Lobo]

Valkyrie

[Ahura Mazda]

Valkyrie - easy.

His sword skills are not going to matter against someone with beter sword skills who moves three times as fast and is infinitely stronger.

Plus dragonfang is a very powerful sword in its own right.

[3dman27]

val

[The Shredder]

Black Knight

[Crimson_L]

Valkyrie.

[Silicon Surfer]

Dane could never block an attack from Valkyrie because he would not even see it. If by some miracle he did block a blow the shock transmitted up his arm would pulverize every bone in his arm. The Ebony Blade would survive the blow but Dane would not.

[Paloogin]

I think the Norse mythology thing works too much in Valkyrie's favour. Now I don't know a huge amount about either character, and normally that would lead me to Wikipedia for a revision session, but I have exams soon, and don't have the time. All in all, she's a God (or a demi-God or somthing), and that helps in a fight sitaution. So I'm going to plump for...

Valkyrie

[Iceman/Psylocke]

Valkyrie

[Phaedrus45]

VALKYRIE defeats BLACK KNIGHT 8-4

[Phaedrus45]

VULCAN

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VS.

SENTRY

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[Sloth7d]

The superman rip-off.

[Phaedrus45]

It will be a hell of a battle; but, Vulcan's ruthlessness and hatred gives him the edge.

Vulcan

[Colossal Spoons]

Gonna have to go Sentry

[Vanguard07]

Even if this was while he was still merged with darwin Sentry's still way too powerful.

I mean Vulcan was no match for Gladiator and Glads' never pulled off anywhere near the kinda feats we know Bob's capable of.

If you wanted something close to a fair fight against Sentry throw Vulcan and all his living relatives at the b***h. That'd be interesting. Sentry'd still probably take it but it'd be interesting.

[incubat]

even thou i don't like him (btw, he looks awfull in that picture) i'll have to go with sentry

[The Chibi Kiriyama]

I'm going to have to say Sentry, though I agree that Romita's art is surprisingly unbefitting of him in that pic.

[Crimson_L]

Sentry, for sure.

[Harlekin]

Sentry

[3dman27]

sentry

[The Shredder]

Sentry ...

[Horseman Gambit]

Yea Sentry

[Bastila]

vulcan

[Paloogin]

I think someone wielding the power of a thousand exploding suns could pretty much spank anything they really wanted to. But Vulcan seems to be pretty blood thirsty and that does pull back some of the deficit. But still... thousand exploding suns... that's pretty huge.

Sentry

[Phaedrus45]

SENTRY defeats VULCAN 11-2

[Phaedrus45]

SLOTT'S AVENGERS

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VS.

YOUNG AVENGERS

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[The Shredder]

Slott's

[Anubis]

With War Machine, Pym, and Justice or without?

[Phaedrus45]

With War Machine, Pym, and Justice or without?

Yes, with those characters. If it was just the noobs, it would be pretty easy for Young Avengers.

I'm still going with Young Avengers. I think the inexperience of those noobs would cause enough trouble for the YA to take it.

[Sloth7d]

Ya...

[Paloogin]

I'll go for the Young Avengers. I think their experience of working together as a team would work in their favour. It's all about teamwork, teamwork, teamwork!

[3dman27]

the initiative

[Vanguard07]

Young avengers. As yet the Initiative members have had no training in teamwork whatsoever and only a couple of them know how to use their powers effectively.

[Vanguard07]

Young avengers. As yet the Initiative members have had no training in teamwork whatsoever and only a couple of them know how to use their powers effectively.

[Canadian Rider]

Young Avengers

[Phaedrus45]

YOUNG AVENGERS destroy AVENGERS INITIATIVE 6-2

[Phaedrus45]

DOOM

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VS.

KANG

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[Canadian Rider]

Doom

[Phaedrus45]

Kang

Hard decision for me. I just don't subscribe to the belief that Doom is all that and a bag of chips. Doom versus the F4 or Kang versus the Avengers, different line-ups every time....Kang is definitely more badass.

[Cyrusbales]

Kang

[Bastila]

Doom

[Kaboom]

doom

[Vanguard07]

Kang Hands down. Infinite resources at his disposal. Time manipulation abilities. Far more advanced weaponry and technology.

[Silicon Surfer]

Kang. He has much better tech.

[incubat]

Kang

[3dman27]

DOOM

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vicious vic of course

[The Shredder]

Vic

[Crimson_L]

Dr. Doom.

[Lobo]

Kang

[Phaedrus45]

So far, we're all tied up, 6-6

[Harlekin]

Kang.

[Paloogin]

I'll go Doom. But it's a very good matchup, lots of similarities. I think in the end it came down to cool outfits, and the body armour and gown beat the 25th century pyjamas.

[Vanguard07]

so you're voting based on aesthetic appeal rather than the characters' respective abilities?

Gotcha.

[Anubis]

Kang, but it wont be easy.

[Vanguard07]

Kang, but it wont be easy.

That depends entirely on whether or not Kang wants to fight fair.
If he doesnt he could easilly teleport in billions of his legions to latveria in the space between seconds and have them leave no brick left upright and no latverian left breathing.

Kang not holding back is essentially unbeatable.

[Iron Fist]

Doom.

[Anubis]

That depends entirely on whether or not Kang wants to fight fair.
If he doesnt he could easilly teleport in billions of his legions to latveria in the space between seconds and have them leave no brick left upright and no latverian left breathing.

Kang not holding back is essentially unbeatable.


Yeah, but Kang wouldn't do that. It's not in his Nature. He's Noble like that, in his own warped, genocidal way.

[Vanguard07]

Yeah, but Kang wouldn't do that. It's not in his Nature. He's Noble like that, in his own warped, genocidal way.


You could make that argument. Except that Immortus had no problem with those types of tactics and Kang and Immortus are the same person.

Anyday now Kang could pop up on the immortus side of the bed and stop playing fair.

[Harlekin]

Kang and Immortus are no longer the same person, and Kang is fighting tooth and nail from ever becoming like him in anyway, so not really.

[CanaryFan]

Kang

[Canadian Rider]

Doom has science and magic. Kang, not so much. So my vote for Doom still stands.

[Ahura Mazda]

Kang if he can use his troops.

[Phaedrus45]

KANG defeats DOOM 10-8

[Phaedrus45]

POWERMAN

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VS.

IRON FIST

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