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Anubis
07-29-2006, 11:37 AM
It's a book by Adrian Tomine. Wrote Summer Blondie and other indie books like that. delves into stories like, a couple watching the neighbors having sex or being on the bus with a bunch of rowdy teens and being too chicken s**t to tell em to shut up. Lost love, curb stomped by a stranger, and this little gem.

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Elijya
07-29-2006, 11:40 AM
Anubis, you're one of the few cats here who might be interested in Negative Burn, or some of Phil Hester's writing. Ever tried them?

Elijya
07-29-2006, 11:41 AM
when you said Sleepwalker, I thought you might have been talking about Marvel's Sleepwalker

Anubis
07-29-2006, 11:43 AM
Anubis, you're one of the few cats here who might be interested in Negative Burn, or some of Phil Hester's writing. Ever tried them?

Never heard of Negative Burn but i've been meaning to try out some of Hester's stuff. What was that book he had out called? Anachist or something? I forgot the name.

What's Negative Burn about?

when you said Sleepwalker, I thought you might have been talking about Marvel's Sleepwalker

Yeah, I figured you did. When I posted that I figured I should have elaborated on it a bit more.

Elijya
07-29-2006, 11:53 AM
Never heard of Negative Burn but i've been meaning to try out some of Hester's stuff. What was that book he had out called? Anachist or something? I forgot the name.

The Atheist, which is an absolutely INCREDIBLE read. I think one website refered to the first issue as the definitive example of what a first issue should be, or something like that.

Unfortunately, something's been up behind the scenes, and only three issues have been shipped (after like a year) but they're three issues of gold.

I did a write up for it and some of Hester's other stuff in the ORT, I'll get it in a second

What's Negative Burn about?
Negative Burn is an anthology series produced by Image's Desperado line, with short peices by various talents. It's basicly the comicbook equivalent of a Poetry collection. I picked up a couple volumes at San Diego, it's just brilliant.

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Elijya
07-29-2006, 11:54 AM
Many of you may know Phil Hester as the artist for the first 40 or so issues of DC’s current Green Arrow series, or from his work Penciling some of Kevin Smith’s Clerks comics. But I was pleased to discover that his writing talents go so far as to surpass his drawing talent. From what I have read (and I will share three of his works with you in a moment) he specializes in trippy-cool, loosely sci-fi miniseries that make for incredible reads and some of the freshest ideas on the market

“I have never been quite so uplifted and quite so terrified at the same time. I've said it once and I've said it again, Phil Hester is too damn good of an artist to be this good of a writer as well, and I hope that the reason he isn't doing more writing for the big two is because he doesn't want to, because for someone not to have picked up on this talent would be a terrible indictment of the state of talent scouting in this industry.” – Randy Lander, The Forth Rail

Coffin tells the tale of scientist Dr. Ashtar Ahmad who is so devoted to his work, he neglects even his family. He has developed a material dense enough, that not even souls can escape it, and crafted a prototype suit, which could theoretically contain an individual for all eternity if they died while sealed inside it. His employers, doubting his loyalty, send for him to be eliminated, but not before Ashtar can make it inside of his suit. He survives, but now that he is trapped within his creation, he must endeavor to protect the things he never reached out to when he could. Available in trade from Oni

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I like to describe Deep Sleeper as kind of like the Matrix, except it's about Dreams instead of computers, and it's actually good. It is the story of one Cole Gibson, a frustrated out of work writer who one day finds that his latest story may in fact be true. A series of events leads him to discover that he is able to walk through the world of dreams when he sleeps, seeing sights and performing feats he never thought possible. But those who wish to abuse the unique powers he possesses on the dream plane have lured him there, and what sinister (or benevolent?) plans they have remains to be seen, as do the choices Cole makes when his own body is stolen. 10/10 from The Fourth Rail. Available in trade from Image

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Elijya
07-29-2006, 11:54 AM
The Atheist is Antoine Sharpe, a government agent so skeptical and quick on his feet, he makes Scully from the X-Files looked like a paranoid schizophrenic. And that’s his job. Antoine spends his days debunking ghost stories, revealing cult leaders and TV Psychics, and solving the unsolvable,. Because like his nickname suggests, he believes there is a logical explanation for everything, and he always finds it. But it’s going to be a bit troublesome to come up with an explanation for why the souls of the dead, grown bored of waiting in the afterlife for the rapture, have decided to come back. Murderers, rapists, and scum, from throughout all history, begin emerging into the healthier younger bodies of those who are still living. And time is running out as more and more of the dead seem to take over every day, and Antoine Sharpe may find himself truly questioning his logical convictions for the first time.

Written by Phil Hester with art by John McCrea (Hitman). Ongoing from Image, issue 1 and 2 on the stands now

“The first issue of The Atheist could be used as part of a class on how to write first issues.” – The Forth Rail

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Anubis
07-29-2006, 11:57 AM
Sounds interesting. I think I'll give them a shot.

But only three issues of Atheist? Man, I'm thinking another Planetary here. Get you all hooked and then you have to wait a year between issues. :(

The Hero
07-29-2006, 12:15 PM
Let me start out by saying this:If I had a vagina,it would belong to Neil Gaiman.With that small bit of unsettling homoeroticism out of the way,let me begin.

The Sandman Vol.1: Preludes & Nocturnes
Wow.After the tremendous hype following this series,and the sheer magnificence of Endless Nights,this first volume of Sandman does not disappoint.The first issue alone is almost worth the price of admission,and Giaman puts mainstream horror writers to shame with 24 Hours,a story that makes you want to curl into a ball and suck your thumb after reading it.I don't think that anything I've ever read read,besides that issue of MiracleMan(yeah,that one),has had the power to not just scare and disturb you,but make you truly feel bad inside.The way Gaiman brought DC horror anthology characters into continuity was brilliant as well,and seeing Cain and Abel was fratricide-tastic.
10/10

The Sandman Vol.2: The Doll's House
Here's where the book really begins to abandon all conventions and become the Sandman we know and love.Gaiman has a real gift for making his characters rich and complex in a relatively short amount of time.As I've said before,I'm still amazed at the concept of things actually happening in each issue of a comic,so he really impresses me in that respect.As bizarre as he is Dream is very believable ,and the subtle inhumanity to his characterization really sell him as a higher power.There are some true gems in this one,including an issue set entirely in dreams,a serial killer convention (one of the most unusually fascinating comics I've ever read),and two great stand-alone issues involving Dream's past.Since finishing it I have been left with a hole in my heart that only another volume of Sandman can fill.I love this book...and quite frankly I think this book loves me.
10/10


So,in summary,with Invincible and Sandman you have given me two expensive,soul-consuming addictions and I hate each and every one of you for it. :up:

Whirlysplat
07-29-2006, 04:28 PM
Busieks Conan was the best thing to come out of 2004 in comics. It works even better in trade form.

- Whirly

MyPokerShirt
07-29-2006, 04:52 PM
question: anybody here get bad planet? is it avaliable in trade?
i read the preview at imagecomics.com and thought it looked interesting, but i don't (yet) order comics and my LCS doesnt stock it.


oh and finally got the first trades for DMZ and Y:The Last Man after my LCs's weird kid wouldnt stop hounding me with recommendations. Y was everything i expected and more, but DMZ -- is there anyone that follows it?-- it was good, but still not sure if its worth more of my money. basically if i could get one more trade of Y:the last man or one more of DMZ which would you recommend, as there are lots of Y:the last man to catch up on?

(hope this is the right thread. these are DC Vertigo so i guess its here or a DC thread...)

ampersand
07-29-2006, 04:53 PM
Get Y: The Last Man.

Anubis
07-29-2006, 05:05 PM
They're both ongoing series, so why not continue to get both? Only Volume one of DMZ is out now, two should be out shortly. There are twice as many Y the last man books. Always best to read an ongoing in order. So, I'd go for Y and wait for more DMZ trades to come out.

I've been collecting DMZ in comic form and it is continually a good read.

Elijya
07-29-2006, 05:09 PM
I read the first issue of DMZ and it didn't grab me at all, but everyone else keeps raving about it

Anubis
07-29-2006, 05:12 PM
The first arc may very well be the weakest. but once he gets acclimated to his surroundings it gets good. Right now it's been pretty intense now that the government has told the world Matty is dead and the Free States killed him.

MyPokerShirt
07-29-2006, 05:45 PM
ysee cos i liked the first arc, but didnt like the Ghost Squad stuff and how it seems he just conveniently got somewhere to live outa nowhere. i loved the next ish where he loses the press pass however.just didnt grab me like Y the last man did, but i think i might add it to The Walking Dead, for my trade pull list, seeing as im instantly uptodate on the trades it seems.

Elijya
07-30-2006, 12:18 AM
Anubis, what does your collection look like?

Ben Urich
07-30-2006, 12:51 AM
Has anyone pimped Persepolis (sp?) yet?

Elijya
07-30-2006, 12:53 AM
not that I know of

Evan where have you been?

Anubis
07-30-2006, 10:45 AM
Anubis, what does your collection look like?

Eh, it's a mix of things. Mostly Marvel/DC Superhero books. I got about 10 long boxes and five other boxes filled with stuff. And a whole lot of trades. I don't know how many comics I got. Gotta be over a 1000. Maybe double that. I haven't counted. I need to take the time to put it in order. Maybe catalogue them.

Elijya
07-30-2006, 12:42 PM
ten long boxes would be more like 2000+

how many shelves of trades?

Anubis
07-30-2006, 12:45 PM
About six

Elijya
07-30-2006, 12:53 PM
which is probably around 300 trades

Anubis
07-30-2006, 01:01 PM
Give or take a few. Amazing what you can amass with a little disposable income and a hatred for sun light.

Elijya
07-30-2006, 01:05 PM
yeah, this one guy I know managed to get a whole eastern european castle

The Hero
07-30-2006, 01:51 PM
which is probably around 300 trades
300???:eek: I don't even have a full shelf.

Anubis
07-30-2006, 01:58 PM
At one point, I was buying like three or four trades a month. I think I did that for what? two or three years? It's steady growing. I'm gonna need some more shelves.

Elijya
07-30-2006, 01:58 PM
go to ikea

Anubis
07-30-2006, 02:08 PM
Bit expensive. I've gotten by pretty well buying book shelves from Target for like $30 bucks a pop. They might not be all that pretty, but they hold books.

Elijya
07-30-2006, 04:51 PM
ever try Craigslist? you can find lots of furniture for cheap through there

Sentry2005
07-30-2006, 09:24 PM
Because i'm sad and get spurred on by trying to be like other people, I just counted up my trades and I have 125 :) not bad for a years worth of collecting. Of course i'm horribly in debt, but at least I ALWAYS have something to read :)

Anubis
07-30-2006, 10:14 PM
I just bought Avengers Assemble volume 3, Fables Vol 5, 100 Bullets volume 5, and Summer Blonde. Should be getting them next week.

Elijya
07-30-2006, 10:17 PM
Anubis, think you might want to do an Avengers Assemble vol 1 write up for the ORT?

Anubis
07-30-2006, 10:20 PM
I don't know. The only reason I didn't do it already was because the entire series isn't out yet. Shouldn't there be like another volume or two coming out? But, hey, Volume one was great in and of itself, so I'll think about it. The contest is up tomorrow right?

Elijya
07-30-2006, 10:30 PM
yeah, but I won't hold it against you if you do more ;)

besides, Busiek/Perez Avengers is all one big thing with Assemble vol 1 being the choice starting point. It doesn't matter if not all the collections are out yet

I'm thinking of some kind of way to keep the rewards system going in the future, like every ten write ups you do know earns you $15 in the Elijya's trade store, or something :D

Anubis
07-30-2006, 11:49 PM
Man that would be freakin sweet.

Whirlysplat
07-31-2006, 09:46 AM
I have about 700 trades/graphics the first ones I bought were The Death of Captaain Marvel and Thor "Whom Gods would destroy" The last one I bought was on Saturday and it was Conan "The God in a Bowl" Busiek reprints. The most difficult to find trades I have are all the Miracleman ones including The hard to come buy Red King Syndrome, Olypus and Silver Age. These are all first editions but well read. The most interesting are perhaps the Hamlyn Trigan Empire and IPC Dan Dare ones that are trades before trades were generally called that in comics.

- Whirly

Anubis
07-31-2006, 10:03 AM
Wow, I feel so....inadequate now. :(

Sentry2005
07-31-2006, 10:11 AM
My penis size no longer comforts me because of whirly's collection :(

Whirlysplat
07-31-2006, 01:21 PM
The scary thing is guys my trades are the tip of my collection. I started buying comics in 74-75 I purchase between 30 and 50 a month at the moment (not including trades) and at my peak I was buying twice that. I have bought whole lots before of hundreds at car boot sales (it's actually not a rare occurrence). I estimate around 20,000 comics and that is conservative estimate it is not an exaggeration.

- Whirly

Elijya
07-31-2006, 02:37 PM
I've about as many trades as you, whirly. Got any pics of your collection?

Fenryr
08-01-2006, 11:18 PM
question: anybody here get bad planet? is it avaliable in trade?

As far as I know, it's only got the one issue out. I think I ordered to at least the second or third issue, but I've ordered Wildsiderz #3 twice now, and it's just not coming. Gimoles was another pretty good start for a mini that just got dropped with no warning.

DMZ takes a certain mindset to get into, but Y: The Last Man is consistently entertaining and there's only a year left.

Whirlysplat
08-01-2006, 11:36 PM
I've about as many trades as you, whirly. Got any pics of your collection?

Not really as the majority of the comics are in my parents loft backed and boxed, The have a better loft space than my house for storage. However I could photograph my next months pull list. If you're interested. Most of my older trades are also away but I could also photograph some of the more interesting ones I do have out, like the complete miracleman trades etc.

- Whirly

GNR
08-03-2006, 12:06 AM
I'm halfway through Red Son.So far very awesome,some of Millar's best work.

Anubis
08-03-2006, 11:48 AM
Heh, wait till you see the ending.

GNR
08-03-2006, 12:27 PM
Okay yowza.

So you're telling me that Supes was a descendant of Lex all along?

That's interesting.I really liked this,nothing predictable and always entertaining and thought provoking.

Up next,Superman For All Seasons.

Anubis
08-03-2006, 02:03 PM
You should enjoy that. I wasn't blown away by it, but I thought it was pretty good. For a long time it was considered by many to be the definative Superman story. Of course i'd say it's been replaced by Secret Identity in recent years.

Sentry2005
08-03-2006, 03:07 PM
You should enjoy that. I wasn't blown away by it, but I thought it was pretty good. For a long time it was considered by many to be the definative Superman story. Of course i'd say it's been replaced by Secret Identity in recent years.

I'd have to agree with that... Secret Identity is kick ass

GNR
08-03-2006, 04:00 PM
I really enjoyed Red Son and all of it's reworkings.For All Seasons has been good so far.Pa Kent's chapter was my fav.

Anubis
08-03-2006, 04:43 PM
So, your opinion on Supes has changed a bit huh?

Sentry2005
08-03-2006, 04:55 PM
Right, I just ordered Avengers Forever and Avengers: Kree/Skrull War.... hopefully they'll be good :) I also just got Avengers Assemble Volumes 1 and 2 ordered for me as well. Lots of Avengers goodness for me.

I've read Avengers Assemble in single issue form, but i'm just wondering if anyone can comment on the other two? How good are they in your opinions??

GNR
08-03-2006, 04:56 PM
After reading Kingdom Come,Red Son,and FAS....yes it has.I always thought reading about the icons would be boring,but that's not even the case.

I'm looking to get Batman Year One,LH,and DK.Superman stuff I want to get Secret Identity.

I've heard mixed stuff about Birthright.Am I missing anything else?

I also want to check out the Astro City stuff.

Anubis
08-03-2006, 05:06 PM
Okay, Avengers Forever, rocks. Best Avengers story ever in my opinion. Kree/Skrull war, well, that depends. Are you bothered by old school comics? I myself have trouble reading books from before the 80's. The culture is just too oldschool for me. This particular story is pretty good, even for todays standards. So, I think you'll enjoy it.

Now, Birthright, I thought it was okay. Was supposed to be the new origin for Supes, but that got scrapped. It was pretty good, but not essential Superman reading.

Astro City is great. The series gets Anubis' 5 star rating. You'll love it. Start with Life in the big city, then it's the Confessions, Family Album, Tarnished Angel, Local Heros, and Dark Age.

Elijya
08-03-2006, 05:08 PM
Right, I just ordered Avengers Forever and Avengers: Kree/Skrull War.... hopefully they'll be good :) I also just got Avengers Assemble Volumes 1 and 2 ordered for me as well. Lots of Avengers goodness for me.

I've read Avengers Assemble in single issue form, but i'm just wondering if anyone can comment on the other two? How good are they in your opinions??
Those are all good picks, although Avengers Forever may **** with you a little since it deals with 40 years of extremely complicated Avengers history

your next stop should be Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes

Elijya
08-03-2006, 05:09 PM
After reading Kingdom Come,Red Son,and FAS....yes it has.I always thought reading about the icons would be boring,but that's not even the case.

I'm looking to get Batman Year One,LH,and DK.Superman stuff I want to get Secret Identity.

I've heard mixed stuff about Birthright.Am I missing anything else?

I also want to check out the Astro City stuff.
after you read The Long Halloween, the immediate sequel to it is Dark Victory

Birthright I always mix up with Secret Identity. I think I've only read one, but I forget which

Anubis
08-03-2006, 05:21 PM
I don't think you should be scared of the history element of Avengers Forever. I went in blind myself and didn't have trouble understanding what went on. If anything, I learned about Avengers History from the book.

And yeah, Earths Mightest heroes is fantastic. highly recommended.

GNR
08-03-2006, 05:22 PM
I've heard good things about SI.

I'm a hawk right now for Bats and Supes trades.

Is DC The New Frontier better read altogether?My store only has Vol.2 in stock.

Sentry2005
08-03-2006, 05:23 PM
Those are all good picks, although Avengers Forever may **** with you a little since it deals with 40 years of extremely complicated Avengers history

your next stop should be Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes

Kool, I think i'll pick that up once my student loan comes in.

Anubis
08-03-2006, 05:24 PM
Read it from the begining. New frontier is incredible. Theres supposed to be an Absolute edition coming out soon if you're willing to spend the cash for it.

Sentry2005
08-03-2006, 05:24 PM
I don't think you should be scared of the history element of Avengers Forever. I went in blind myself and didn't have trouble understanding what went on. If anything, I learned about Avengers History from the book.

And yeah, Earths Mightest heroes is fantastic. highly recommended.

Thanks for the advice Anubis :) you too Elijya :up:

Elijya
08-03-2006, 05:26 PM
no prob Sentry, any time

GNR - yeah, it's pretty essential to read them back to back

GNR
08-03-2006, 05:32 PM
Yea,that's a sweet sounding story.

I'm off to finish For All Seasons.Thoughts will be up later!

GNR
08-03-2006, 09:44 PM
Finally finished FAS.

What a great story.I liked the whole perspective the pastor put on the seasons at the end.Lana's chapter was a fitting ending,I was hoping she would come back sometime in the book.This wasn't Superman fighting robots or aliens,this was Superman,the man raised by Ma and Pa Kent.I loved every minute of it.Great read.

Anubis
08-03-2006, 09:46 PM
Glad to hear you liked it.

GNR
08-03-2006, 09:47 PM
Did you like Red Son Anubis?

Anubis
08-03-2006, 09:50 PM
Loved it. Best thing Miller's written.

Kool-Aid
08-03-2006, 09:55 PM
Finally finished FAS.

What a great story.I liked the whole perspective the pastor put on the seasons at the end.Lana's chapter was a fitting ending,I was hoping she would come back sometime in the book.This wasn't Superman fighting robots or aliens,this was Superman,the man raised by Ma and Pa Kent.I loved every minute of it.Great read.


Yeah I read FAS last month for the first time and I loved it. I noticed you liked Batman's stuff too. Have you tried Arkham Asylum or Hush? Those are really good Batman books too.:up: :)

GNR
08-03-2006, 10:04 PM
Yeah I read FAS last month for the first time and I loved it. I noticed you liked Batman's stuff too. Have you tried Arkham Asylum or Hush? Those are really good Batman books too.:up: :)

I'm jumping into Long Halloween and Dark Victory before I go into Hush.

Anubis
08-03-2006, 10:24 PM
There's another Superman book that I'd recommend. Superman: Exile. It's from the 80's, and should still be in print. You ever see that episode of Justice League where Mongol first appeared? Well that was an adaptation of this story. Supes, racked with guilt over killing the Kryptonian criminals developed a split personality and ended up seriously hurting a lot of people. Faced with his possible mental instability, Supes decided to leave Earth and find a place where he can't hurt anybody else. After nearly getting killed a couple of times, he ends up on War World, under powered, and forced to fight in gladiatorial games for Mongol's amusement. It's a great story. One of my personal favorites.

Anyway, what other heroes are you interested in besides the world's Finest?

Kool-Aid
08-03-2006, 10:40 PM
I agree that was good. The only part that erked me was that he needed a breathing device in space. Other then that it was pretty cool.

Anubis
08-03-2006, 10:42 PM
Well, he can't breath in space. He can however hold his breath for a couple of hours. He'd need something if he's going around looking for an inhabitable planet he can be alone and sulk on. Now the Hyperspace belt was kinda hard to believe.

Kool-Aid
08-03-2006, 10:55 PM
Anybody read Black Hole? I almost bought it a little while ago at my local Barnes and Noble. It looks pretty cool.

Anubis
08-03-2006, 10:57 PM
I think KAD recommended it earlier in this thread. He conviced me to get it, but I never got around to it. I came in second in that Free Comics Contest that Eli was doing, and I get to choose some trades from his collection so i'm gonna grab that.

GNR
08-03-2006, 10:57 PM
When it comes to DC,I was raised on Bats,Supes and JLA.

Astro City sounds very appealing to me as well.I love Busiek's style.

Kool-Aid
08-03-2006, 10:59 PM
Yeah I'm digging his Superman right now. I forgot to get his Action Comics issue today.:(

Anubis
08-03-2006, 11:00 PM
Yeah, Astro City really is great. One of the best stories in there is this one called "The Nearness of You". It's in the Confession volume. It's really a beautiful, and very sad story. Really shows you what it's like for the normal people who get caught up in these massive cosmic events that happen so often in your avarage Superhero universe.

Anubis
08-03-2006, 11:05 PM
What JLA have you read?

And why not try out a little Wonder Woman too? Complete the Trinity. I would totally recommend Wonder Woman: The Hiketeia

The cover alone is worth the price of admission.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/AnubisGOD/DC/WONDER_WOMAN_THE_HIKETEIA_HC.jpg

GNR
08-03-2006, 11:58 PM
In due time.

rigel7soldiers
08-04-2006, 03:04 PM
Okay, I just got Invincible in hardcover (first 13 issues, didn't even have to pay for it myself; pretty sweet deal) but does that even count? I mean... It's HC.

supes_el
08-04-2006, 06:39 PM
There's another Superman book that I'd recommend. Superman: Exile. It's from the 80's, and should still be in print. You ever see that episode of Justice League where Mongol first appeared? Well that was an adaptation of this story. Supes, racked with guilt over killing the Kryptonian criminals developed a split personality and ended up seriously hurting a lot of people. Faced with his possible mental instability, Supes decided to leave Earth and find a place where he can't hurt anybody else. After nearly getting killed a couple of times, he ends up on War World, under powered, and forced to fight in gladiatorial games for Mongol's amusement. It's a great story. One of my personal favorites.

Anyway, what other heroes are you interested in besides the world's Finest?

I just finished this 2 weeks ago. It is still in print and Amazon.com has it. Good read. Really picks up half way through. :supes:

Anubis
08-04-2006, 08:48 PM
Good to know. I got my copy a couple of years ago and I figured it probally had become hard to find like Squadron Supreme was up until a few months ago.

Kool-Aid
08-04-2006, 09:17 PM
So nobodys read Black Hole?

Anubis
08-04-2006, 09:18 PM
I'm sure Eli has.

Kool-Aid
08-04-2006, 09:28 PM
Do you know what its about? I only flipped through it real fast and didn't read any pages. I liked the artists style.

Anubis
08-04-2006, 09:33 PM
I think it's like, people getting freaky powers like a STD or something like that.

Here it is a Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/037542380X/sr=8-1/qid=1154745296/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0798879-2659030?ie=UTF8

Ben Urich
08-04-2006, 10:37 PM
not that I know of

Evan where have you been?

Work, man. It's the summer before college. Need money. Pull list is looking weaker than an uninked Jim Lee spread. :(

Elijya
08-05-2006, 08:37 AM
ooo, burn! :eek:

Elijya
08-05-2006, 08:41 AM
So nobodys read Black Hole?
I got half way through it with plans to pick it back up, but taht was a couple of months ago. A unified plot hadn't really formed by taht point, so I wasn't quite sure what the author was going for. Basicly, kids in this small town start manifesting these bizarre and random mutations that are spread through sexual contact. The story jumped from one group of kids to the next, and I couldn't figure out if any of them were connected.

I need to go back and read it. But for as independent of a comic as it is, the art is very clear, nice solid cartoon lines.

GNR
08-05-2006, 11:10 AM
Does reading Dark Victory first ruin Long Halloween?

Sentry2005
08-05-2006, 11:10 AM
So, my Avengers Trades came... awesome :) Avengers Forever is sweet, i've only flipped it, but I do like how it leads directly into my Captain Marvel trade that I own (First Contact).

I had a flip through Kree/Skrull war, and I can see what Anubis means about the art, but I think i'll enjoy it. I'm looking forward to sitting down and reading them... just as soon as i've finnished re-reading The Walking Dead. I'm near the end of the first trade :)

Sentry2005
08-05-2006, 11:12 AM
Does reading Dark Victory first ruin Long Halloween?

I've only read Long Halloween, but I think it would... In that respect I think it's like Bendis' Daredevil... i.e. if you had started with Brubaker's Daredevil, it would ultimately ruin the tension and surprise of Bendis' run. But that analogy could be totally wrong.

Elijya
08-05-2006, 11:17 AM
Does reading Dark Victory first ruin Long Halloween?
yes, as The Long Halloween is a murder mystery and Dark Victory gives away the killer

GNR
08-05-2006, 11:18 AM
Dang...okay then,I'm going to have to just wait until my store restocks.They just have DK right now and I'm itching.

GNR
08-05-2006, 03:51 PM
Just picked up Batman Year One.

Anubis
08-05-2006, 03:57 PM
Good. It's a must read for the Bat.

GNR
08-06-2006, 11:09 AM
Just picked up Batman Year One.

I liked how Gordon and Bats were both portrayed as men who were looking to do good in their city,buy by different means.After reading this and DKR,Miller has really blowm me away with these 2 bat-tales.He really gets inside his head and grounds the stories real well.Awesome stuff.:up:

I also chuckled when I noticed the many parallels to parts of Batman Begins.

GNR
08-06-2006, 11:09 AM
Is Miller's ASBAR any good?

Darthphere
08-06-2006, 11:11 AM
Is Miller's ASBAR any good?


NO.

GNR
08-06-2006, 11:20 AM
NO.

Thanks a bunch Darth.

Darthphere
08-06-2006, 11:39 AM
Trust me, you wanna stay away from that book. Id recommend New Avengers over that book any day of the week.

GNR
08-06-2006, 11:42 AM
I was just wondering since Miller did a good job with DKR and Y1.

Anubis
08-06-2006, 05:35 PM
Yeah, you'd think that, but, it's really been horrible. You can try it if you want to, but I can't recommend it. The sequal to DKR is also considered by many to be really bad. I wouldn't know myself seeing as I haven't read it yet.

Elijya
08-06-2006, 08:00 PM
yup, it's horrible unfortunately

Emerald Knight
08-06-2006, 08:12 PM
I was finally able to pick up some more Hellboy. I just got volumes three and four: "The Chained Coffin and Other Stories" and "The Right Hand of Doom" respectively.

Anubis
08-06-2006, 08:13 PM
I've been meaning to get some more Hellboy.

GNR
08-06-2006, 08:15 PM
I'm glad I dropped a lot of books.There's so many good trades out there I'm looking forward to.

This week,I'll be getting Long Halloween and Dark Victory.That's going to be a sweet ass nearly 600 page read!!

Then it's Superman Secret Identity and.....drumroll please.......THE WATCHMEN!The granddaddy.Personally,I think I'll enjoy it.Anything that makes me think and ponder is a good read.Plus,I'm not that much of an action junkie when it comes to comics.

Emerald Knight
08-06-2006, 08:15 PM
I've been meaning to get some more Hellboy.

which volumes do you have?

and I've been thinking of getting the BPRD books. Do they still have Mignola as a writer?

Emerald Knight
08-06-2006, 08:17 PM
I'm glad I dropped a lot of books.There's so many good trades out there I'm looking forward to.

This week,I'll be getting Long Halloween and Dark Victory.That's going to be a sweet ass nearly 600 page read!!

Then it's Superman Secret Identity and.....drumroll please.......THE WATCHMEN!The granddaddy.Personally,I think I'll enjoy it.Anything that makes me think and ponder is a good read.Plus,I'm not that much of an action junkie when it comes to comics.

Let me say from experience that you will not be disappointed with the Long Halloween/Dark Victory combo. and I also enjoyed Secret Identity. And yes, Watchmen is the Granddaddy. :up:

Anubis
08-06-2006, 08:18 PM
I got "Conqueror Worm" and "Seed of Destruction". I don't think Mignola is writing the BPRD books, but i've heard good buzz on it.

Darthphere
08-06-2006, 08:20 PM
Pfffft, Everyone knows Trouble is the granddaddy.

Emerald Knight
08-06-2006, 08:22 PM
I got "Conqueror Worm" and "Seed of Destruction". I don't think Mignola is writing the BPRD books, but i've heard good buzz on it.

That's good to hear about the good buzz, I might pick them up down the road, since they continue the stories without HB but there in lies the problem with $$$. :(

But I am a patient man...I can wait.

I've also heard some interesting things about the character Johann.

Ben Urich
08-09-2006, 01:25 PM
Just finished reading the two new Legion of Superheroes trades by Mark Waid and Barry Kitson - Teenage Wasteland and Death of a Dream. The best way I can describe Legion is that it's like the X-Men (lots of team members, each with heir own distinct abilities), only 1000 years in the future and much cooler. Not only do they have to square off against colossal threats to the stability of the galaxy (Praetor Lemnos is like Magneto on a universal scale- great villain), but they also have to deal with the infighting and political wrangling that comes with running a superteam. Awesome.
I'm tempted to go out and buy all the single issues of this series. It's that good. :up:

deathshead2
08-09-2006, 01:33 PM
which volumes do you have?

and I've been thinking of getting the BPRD books. Do they still have Mignola as a writer?He doesn't write them he just plots them now.

Darthphere
08-09-2006, 01:34 PM
With the outage this weekend im catching up on Trades. I plan on reading The Ternals hardcover, the last 3 trades of Transmet and my friend for some reason decided to send me Lost Girls so ill probably read that.

deathshead2
08-09-2006, 01:35 PM
Hopefully I don't have to buy to many comics this week I really want to get Y the last man vol 1. But I might have to get some bags and boards which sucks.

Ben Urich
08-09-2006, 07:48 PM
Transmet is my favorite Vertigo title :up:
Spider Jerusalem is a ****ing badass of the first degree. :up:

Anubis
08-09-2006, 08:10 PM
Okay, finished 100 Bullets Vol 5: The Counterfifth Detective, Avengers Assemble: Vol 3, and Fables volume five. All of which were great reads.

100 Bullets was just a great noir detective story. Thought I was reading Sin City in some places. Although I didn't really understand everything that was going on, it's been more than a year since I last read volume 4 of the series, but it was still a good read on it's own. 4 out of 5.

Avengers Assemble Volume 3. Now this was great as well. Particularly the whole Triune Understanding thing, how everything was set up. And the best part was definitely the Avengers Government liaison not backing down from Thor. Man, Dwayne had some serious balls. Though Triathlon was a bit annoying, lets face it, if I were in his position, I would have been too. I just wouldn't have been as much of a Douche. 4 out of 5.

Fables: Volume 5. Damnit, why did this have to end? I wanted to know what happened to the seventh kid. Did he find his pops? Damn, now I gotta go grab 6 and hope they continue the story. All in all, it was a great read. Especially the Bigby in WWII. Man, that was great. 5 out of 5.

I just bought Absolute Hush (I gave my issues away to a much more needy kid, so I decided I'd go ahead and buy this to replace them.) Arkham Asylum: Living Hell, Astro City: Local Heroes, and Spider-Man Visionaries Vol 1: Kurt Busiek

The Hero
08-09-2006, 08:15 PM
With the outage this weekend im catching up on Trades. I plan on reading The Ternals hardcover, the last 3 trades of Transmet and my friend for some reason decided to send me Lost Girls so ill probably read that.
Lost Girls is already out?I'm disappointed by the lack of a mainstream media frenzy.My dreams of watching Bill O'Reilly ***** about Alan Moore corrupting the youth of America have been dashed. :(

Elijya
08-09-2006, 08:54 PM
I just got The Wretch vol. 2 and 3 and Orbiter in the mail, and I bough War Stories vol 1 and MArvel Zombies at the store this week, so I'm set for awhile

GNR
08-09-2006, 10:06 PM
Was Identity Crisis by Meltzer any good?I hear alot of praise for it.

Elijya
08-09-2006, 11:25 PM
....then it's a safe bet it's pretty good ;)

GNR
08-09-2006, 11:31 PM
Wow,it's coming out in softcover next week.Sweet.

Darthphere
08-10-2006, 09:17 AM
Lost Girls is already out?I'm disappointed by the lack of a mainstream media frenzy.My dreams of watching Bill O'Reilly ***** about Alan Moore corrupting the youth of America have been dashed. :(


Yeah, I didnt even plan on reading it but my friend who knows nothing about comics and just knows that I like Alan Moore sent it to me, lets just say it fell off a truck.:confused:

Sentry2005
08-10-2006, 09:28 AM
Grabbed Marvels today... only skimmed it, but I read the part with the mutant girl... it looks freakin immense :)

GNR
08-10-2006, 11:43 AM
Grabbed Marvels today... only skimmed it, but I read the part with the mutant girl... it looks freakin immense :)

Dude,read it from the beginning.

WallCrawl
08-10-2006, 11:49 AM
Dude,read it from the beginning.

And then backwards, just for fun.

Ben Urich
08-10-2006, 01:00 PM
Was Identity Crisis by Meltzer any good?I hear alot of praise for it.

Identity Crisis was like, 7 reasons why DC kicks Marvel ass. I mean, I read books from both companies, and always have, but IC is really what catapulted DC to the top. For me, anyway. :o

Also: a penguin :)

GNR
08-10-2006, 02:51 PM
Secret Identity or Birthright?

Darthphere
08-10-2006, 02:52 PM
Secret Identity or Birthright?


Both.

Sentry2005
08-10-2006, 05:41 PM
Secret Identity is the better story... Birthright was all right.... just a bit lame in places

GNR
08-10-2006, 05:48 PM
Lame huh?

Based on the fact that I'm a Supes newb who wouldn't catch a continuity mistake if it bit me in the ass,you think I would enjoy it?

Sentry2005
08-10-2006, 05:51 PM
You might, but I think it's been pretty much decided that its not in continuity at all any more. They're going to do ANOTHER origin story I think.

Thing is, it's pretty good until the main plot by the villain gets revealed. I actually cringed when it happened. And I read Onslaught without cringing, I read the Heroes Reborn series without cringing... so... I found it aweful. Up until then I was really enjoying it.

Out of the two Secret Identity is just a much nicer story, it's mroe touching, and it's Kurt Busiek... I swear, i'd tuck it behind and call him big boy if he'd go back to writing the Avengers... the man is a legend :)

Anubis
08-10-2006, 10:19 PM
You might, but I think it's been pretty much decided that its not in continuity at all any more. They're going to do ANOTHER origin story I think.

Thing is, it's pretty good until the main plot by the villain gets revealed. I actually cringed when it happened. And I read Onslaught without cringing, I read the Heroes Reborn series without cringing... so... I found it aweful. Up until then I was really enjoying it.

Out of the two Secret Identity is just a much nicer story, it's mroe touching, and it's Kurt Busiek... I swear, i'd tuck it behind and call him big boy if he'd go back to writing the Avengers... the man is a legend :)

lmfao

GNR
08-10-2006, 10:21 PM
What about you ANubis,Secret Identity or Birthright?(Considering I'm a noob who enjoyed Red Son,Kingdom Come and FOr ALl Seasons.

Anubis
08-10-2006, 10:27 PM
Secret Identity is by far superior in my opinion. Birthright is still a good read though. Not great, but, not bad either. Though, if I were you, I'd try "For Tomorrow" before Birthright. That was a highly underrated Superman story. A lot of people panned it when it came out, but I've found that it's best read in trade. Jim Lee and Brian Azzerello were the team on that one. It was pretty good.

GNR
08-10-2006, 10:31 PM
Secret Identity is by far superior in my opinion. Birthright is still a good read though. Not great, but, not bad either. Though, if I were you, I'd try "For Tomorrow" before Birthright. That was a highly underrated Superman story. A lot of people panned it when it came out, but I've found that it's best read in trade. Jim Lee and Brian Azzerello were the team on that one. It was pretty good.

Yea I heard mixed things about FT.

What was everyone's beef with BR anyways?

Anubis
08-10-2006, 10:37 PM
I don't know. I figure it was the Smallville stuff they threw in. Young Ma and Pa Kent. Lex having went to high school with Clark. That sorta thing.

GNR
08-10-2006, 10:46 PM
I read somewhere that the internet was used as a plot device?What the heck?

Have you read Trinity by Wagner?

The Hero
08-11-2006, 11:40 AM
I don't know. I figure it was the Smallville stuff they threw in. Young Ma and Pa Kent. Lex having went to high school with Clark. That sorta thing.
The sad thing is,Waid hated Businessman Lex and wanted to use the series to return him to his pre-Crisis glory,but DC made him throw in that Smallville crap. :(

Darthphere
08-11-2006, 11:46 AM
Actually most people in the biz agree that making Pa and Ma Kent Younger was the best thing to come out of the series.

Sentry2005
08-11-2006, 12:24 PM
All I know is that the final battle pissed me off :(

On a completely unrelated note, i'm re-reading the Walking Dead... just about halfway through the fourth volume. Awesome.

The Hero
08-11-2006, 01:39 PM
Trust me, you wanna stay away from that book. Id recommend New Avengers over that book any day of the week.
C'mon,it was worth it for this panel alone:

http://www.superdickery.com/images/oneshot/asbr020102hh.jpg


And this disturbing scene:

http://pics.livejournal.com/hoolifan/pic/0000tcdx


And this hilariously objectifying sequence (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8759974&postcount=881).

Frank Miller=Russ Meyer of comic books.

Anubis
08-11-2006, 02:25 PM
I read somewhere that the internet was used as a plot device?What the heck?

Have you read Trinity by Wagner?

Oh yeah, I bought that when it first came out. That's a good one too. Shows you the first team up between the trinity. I'd also recommend his Batman and the Monster Men. That was one of the best Batman stories i've ever read. The follow up to that is Batman and the Mad Monk and that mini should start up in a couple of weeks I believe.

Anubis
08-11-2006, 02:26 PM
Actually most people in the biz agree that making Pa and Ma Kent Younger was the best thing to come out of the series.

Yeah, I don't mind them being young. To tell you the truth I don't really care either way.

Anubis
08-11-2006, 02:31 PM
The sad thing is,Waid hated Businessman Lex and wanted to use the series to return him to his pre-Crisis glory,but DC made him throw in that Smallville crap. :(

Would have liked to have seen what he would have done if he didn't have editorial telling him to add all that Smallville crap. The best Lex i've seen in awhile was the one in Red Son. Uber Scientist guy Lex pwns business man Lex.

Sentry2005
08-11-2006, 02:43 PM
And this disturbing scene:

http://pics.livejournal.com/hoolifan/pic/0000tcdx



*sigh* it's SO bad, but SO brilliant at the same time :(

GNR
08-11-2006, 02:49 PM
I almost jumped into the All Star line but didn't.Maybe down the road when in trade,but right now I'm just trying to eat up all the essentials of Bats and Supes from the past.

Sorry if I'm sounding repetitive here guys,but is SI pretty much a Superboy story?

Sentry2005
08-11-2006, 02:52 PM
Not really... it's an elseworlds. It follows Clark Kent, normal kid who lives with his normal parents. They just thought it would be funny to name him Clark, considering that the Superman comics exist in this world.

Basically, he starts to develop powers, and decides to become a Superhero. It follows four stages of his life, a chapter for eaech stage.

I've said it before, and it's pretty obvious, but I would bum Kurt Busiek because he writes stories like this. Perfectly crafted and with such a sincere and sweet tone. I LOVE the dude. Seriously. I'm straight as a spirit level ruler, but for him, i'd be a lady.

So to answer your question, it's not really a Superboy story. It's so much more. Own it now and love it forever!

Anubis
08-11-2006, 02:58 PM
More like what if Superboy Prime was alowed to continue down his timeline instead of having it erased in the Crisis.

GNR
08-15-2006, 06:00 PM
Finished Birthright this weekend.I thought it was a great read.There were many times where I had to keep telling myself this was a year one story such as when Clark appears to be chickening out and running home to ma and pa.

Sentry2005
08-15-2006, 06:23 PM
ok, but what about the faux kryptonian army? that's what made me not like it so much :(

GNR
08-15-2006, 06:27 PM
ok, but what about the faux kryptonian army? that's what made me not like it so much :(

Understandable considering most of the out of this world tech elements Luthor was capable of.

Sentry2005
08-15-2006, 06:28 PM
I just couldn't accept it. It seemed like a step too far, even for Lex. :( Other than that, I did enjoy it loads. But now you've read that, you have to go and pick up Secret Identity :D

MyPokerShirt
08-15-2006, 09:27 PM
http://www.superdickery.com/images/oneshot/asbr020102hh.jpg



i'm still waiting for references to this from every other "-man" character. "i'm the goddamn spider-man!" "i'm the goddamn superman!" "i'm the goddamn power man!" etc. But i havnt seen one yet... :(

when was the last all-star batman out? isn't it seriously delayed atm, or did i miss it already?

Mee
08-15-2006, 09:42 PM
Picked up New Avengers: The Sentry today, since I enjoyed Breakout and I'm a sucker for Mcniven's art, it was alright. 6.5/10 I guess. The art was great, the story was good, but rather...uninteresting? Decent read, but nothing special.

Anubis
08-15-2006, 10:03 PM
I finished Summer Blondie by Adrian Tomine today. Damn good read. I love how he had all these pathetic characters that even though you felt sorry for them on some level, you kinda despised them by the end. I really do love this guys work. 5 out of 5

Today I finally got my winnings from the Recommendations contest. Black Hole and Sin City: The Hard Goodbye. Eli also hooked me up with this damn fine collected works of Phil Hester trade. I read the first couple of stories and it was damn good. I also bought issue 2 and 3 of the Atheist that Eli recommended and it is also a very good read. The big reveal as to who was leading the dead was quite a shocker. Thanks for hipping to the book Eli :up:

Elijya
08-15-2006, 10:07 PM
then spread the word, 'Nubie! :up:

Hester is an underrated talent who deserves all the praise in the world. Wait until you get to the last story, that takes up most of the book, "Boneshaker"

Hester also had a ridiculously cool concept called The Wretch he did about two dozen short stories with. Those're collected in 3 books you should look for as well

GNR
08-15-2006, 10:08 PM
Eli is a God around these parts,and for good reason!

Anubis
08-15-2006, 10:15 PM
Yeah, the kid knows his comics. He's peeped me to dozens of great books already.

Darthphere
08-15-2006, 10:16 PM
Man, I read so much stuff this weekend, including the stuff E sent me.

Elijya
08-15-2006, 10:20 PM
you get through Barry Ween?

Darthphere
08-15-2006, 10:21 PM
you get through Barry Ween?


I read most of it, ****ing excellent.

Anubis
08-15-2006, 10:23 PM
Dexter's Lab with Cursing.

Elijya
08-15-2006, 10:25 PM
yup!:up:

sure wish Winnick would go back to it, it's way better than the crap he's shoveling now... :(

Darthphere
08-15-2006, 10:25 PM
yup!:up:

sure wish Winnick would go back to it, it's way better than the crap he's shoveling now... :(


Green Arrow has been pretty solid. Outsiders, not so much.

Elijya
08-15-2006, 10:28 PM
Green Arrow is my favorite character, and he has me wanting to drop the book

all traces of the term "subtlety" have been erased from Winnick's palate of writing techniques

Darthphere
08-15-2006, 10:30 PM
Green Arrow is my favorite character, and he has me wanting to drop the book

all traces of the term "subtlety" have been erased from Winnick's palate of writing techniques


Oh yeah, thats true, last issue was pretty over the top with the O'Reilly-esque news broadcast.

Mee
08-15-2006, 10:30 PM
What happened with GA being mayor? How'd that happen?

Elijya
08-15-2006, 10:38 PM
Oh yeah, thats true, last issue was pretty over the top with the O'Reilly-esque news broadcast.
that was the last straw for me. Even the second OYL issue was bad, when he was giving a press conference "I'm a liberal and I'm right, I'm a liberal and I'm right, I'm a liberal and I'm right" for 22 pages

and I'M a liberal, but that was all just too nuts

and the whole thing about his aides being named "tuckman" and "john little" ::groan::

GNR
08-15-2006, 10:39 PM
I thought Ollie was going to be in the JLA judging from promo art?

Anyways guys,as you know I'm embracing the DCU more and more.I've gotten the majority of the "essential" Batman and Superman reads with the exception of Secret Identity,I still plan to get it.I recently read Birthright and thought it was good,despite having to remind myself non-stop that this was a year one story.

Anywhoo,I was wondering which JLA trades were worth getting?I already have Tower of Babel and Divided We Fall on my to get list.Which of Morrison's stuff is worth reading?

About Green Arrow,there's quite a buzz around Smith and Hester's Quiver.After watching a ****load of JLA and JLU this summer,I've started to like GA.Which trades should I get?

Anubis
08-15-2006, 10:52 PM
Most people will tell you that all of Morrison's run was not only worth reading, but the best run on JLA ever. I thought it was good. I liked Kelly's run better. Most of Kelly's run anyway. All I can say is, if you aren't into Morrison, you might not enjoy it all that much. You should know from his X-Men run, the guy is weird. JLA is pretty tame though compared to books like the invisibles or the Filth, or even his Doom Patrol run. I'd go for it. Grab the first trade, see if you like it, then go from there. You gotta read World War III though. ANd Rock of Ages.

Darthphere
08-15-2006, 10:54 PM
that was the last straw for me. Even the second OYL issue was bad, when he was giving a press conference "I'm a liberal and I'm right, I'm a liberal and I'm right, I'm a liberal and I'm right" for 22 pages

and I'M a liberal, but that was all just too nuts

and the whole thing about his aides being named "tuckman" and "john little" ::groan::


Yeah, I get you. Im a liberal as well. Its the same effect im having reading Frontline.

Anubis
08-15-2006, 10:57 PM
I don't mind it, i've come to expect that sort of thing out of Ollie. It's kinda part of his character. Uber Liberal.

Anubis
08-15-2006, 11:00 PM
About Green Arrow,there's quite a buzz around Smith and Hester's Quiver.After watching a ****load of JLA and JLU this summer,I've started to like GA.Which trades should I get?

Quiver, Sounds of Violence, Metzler's Archers Quest, And Winnick's Stright Shooter. Also, Mike Grell's the Longbow Hunters. Best GA stories you're likely to find.

Darthphere
08-15-2006, 11:03 PM
I don't mind it, i've come to expect that sort of thing out of Ollie. It's kinda part of his character. Uber Liberal.


Yeah, but there are other aspects of Ollie Winnick chooses to ignore.

Elijya
08-15-2006, 11:13 PM
I thought Ollie was going to be in the JLA judging from promo art?

Anyways guys,as you know I'm embracing the DCU more and more.I've gotten the majority of the "essential" Batman and Superman reads with the exception of Secret Identity,I still plan to get it.I recently read Birthright and thought it was good,despite having to remind myself non-stop that this was a year one story.

Anywhoo,I was wondering which JLA trades were worth getting?I already have Tower of Babel and Divided We Fall on my to get list.Which of Morrison's stuff is worth reading?

About Green Arrow,there's quite a buzz around Smith and Hester's Quiver.After watching a ****load of JLA and JLU this summer,I've started to like GA.Which trades should I get?


GA trades in this order:

1. Quiver
2. Sounds of Violence
3. The Archer's Quest

those collect the first 20 issues of the current series, arguably the best in the character's history

Hester and Parks did the art for the first 40 issues or so. Smith wrote Quiver and Sounds of Violence, Brad Meltzer (Identity Crisis) did The Archer's Quest.

Winnick took over after them, and it was still pretty ok for awhile, but then it started going downhill

GNR
08-15-2006, 11:22 PM
Thanks,what about JLA Eli??I've read some synopsies of Morrison's run and some of it sounds really far out.

Is Tower of Babel any good?

Elijya
08-15-2006, 11:25 PM
thought you said you already had it?

JLA trades, to me, are good DC entertainment, they're all good and lots of fun, but none of them are particularly deep and I can't praise them as anything more than just solid entertainment. Tower of Babel is IMO the only one that stands out

GNR
08-15-2006, 11:33 PM
thought you said you already had it?

JLA trades, to me, are good DC entertainment, they're all good and lots of fun, but none of them are particularly deep and I can't praise them as anything more than just solid entertainment. Tower of Babel is IMO the only one that stands out

I have Identity Crisis.

Elijya
08-15-2006, 11:49 PM
????

uh, yeah, and...? :confused:

Mee
08-15-2006, 11:50 PM
Identity Crisis...ugh.

Sentry2005
08-16-2006, 06:53 AM
What's wrong with Identity Crisis? :confused::confused:

On a side note, my Avengers Assemble hardcovers came *yay* I can't believe how much the Avegners have changed. I picked this up and for a few pages I was like 'Where's the ninja's??' lol.

Only annoying thing is now I must own the third Volume :mad: 1 and 2 leave me wanting more... Might pick it up with Volume 2 of Ultimate FF. Can anyone tell me if that Ultimate FF hardcover is worth it?

Elijya
08-16-2006, 08:42 AM
mmm, it is, but go with Avengers first

Sentry2005
08-16-2006, 10:07 AM
mmm, it is, but go with Avengers first

Well I can pick up both for 30 pounds, so i'm contemplating getting them togeather.

GNR
08-16-2006, 10:42 AM
????

uh, yeah, and...? :confused:

I have IC,not TOB.

Elijya
08-16-2006, 11:17 AM
Oh, ok, I see. That really wasn't clear

Elijya
08-16-2006, 11:18 AM
Well I can pick up both for 30 pounds, so i'm contemplating getting them togeather.
30 pounds for both is a good deal. For each, it's a rip-off

Mee
08-16-2006, 11:23 AM
What's wrong with Identity Crisis? :confused::confused:

Oh so many things.

Anubis
08-16-2006, 11:27 AM
Like what?

Elijya
08-16-2006, 11:36 AM
He probably didn't care for a dark and heavily mature theme such as rape intruding onto the mainstream DC superheroes (even though it has before), and the tarnishing of several heroes by making them go to far with mind wiping villains

personally, it was a good story, so I';m 100% ok with all that

Mee
08-16-2006, 11:36 AM
Like what?

1.Morales' art I don't care for. 2.The whole killing people to get back together seemed retarded. Has Jean ever shown signs of being Psycho before? 3. "Oh, lucky I brought my trusty flamethrower!" 4. Deathstroke vs. the Leaguers was very poorly written.

That's all I've got off the top of my head.

Elijya
08-16-2006, 11:41 AM
spelling retarded "retarted" is retarded

and yes, I'm pretty sure Jean has a history of mental problems

Anubis
08-16-2006, 11:43 AM
1)I love Morales' art. 2)She's crazy and there is some historic reference to this.3)again, she's crazy. 4) I'll give you that one. Theres noway in hell Kyle would have tried to punch him rather than say, create a giant clown to pick him up and slap him around.

Mee
08-16-2006, 11:45 AM
So she does have mental issues? That makes it a little better I guess.

Man, I mispelled retarded...

Mee
08-16-2006, 11:52 AM
I know alot of people like Morales' art, and it's not bad, just not that good IMO. He's got kind of an old-school style, which is pretty hit or miss for me. And the way he does noses and eyes bugs me.

The Hero
08-16-2006, 12:52 PM
My biggest problem with IC was that Jean being the killer didn't really tie into anything else that happened in the book,which made it seem like they pulled it out of their assess at the last minute.Which is a shame,because everything up until that point was good.

Sentry2005
08-16-2006, 02:11 PM
30 pounds for both is a good deal. For each, it's a rip-off

Well they are usually 20 over here, so its not that bad a deal.

supes_el
08-16-2006, 05:53 PM
So after all the talk about how any comic fan should read Watchmen, I borrowed it from a co-worker and read through it. Here is what I though:

Although it did keep me interested and it wasnt a hard book to want to sit through, I didnt like it. The whole thing didnt seem so impactful to me. The plot took way too long to develop and had a 'rushed' through ending IMO. I mean so what, if in the end the deadly solution used came about by a hero who ultimately fooled a "God". I think when it was written it may have been a big deal but now its just like...meh. I wouldnt really recommend this to anyone I know as a good read but more as a comic history lesson about comics one a fan know about.

I dont know, I tried to like this. I really did. I like Alan Moore but this didnt do it for me.

I have read Exiles recently and will be finishing up Uncle Sam today. I will post Uncle Sam review when I get time. On my to-read list pile on my bed:
Conan (Frost Daughter one, cant remember whole name)
The Dark Phoenix Saga

Elijya
08-16-2006, 06:51 PM
it took me years to appreciate Watchmen, and I still don't quite fully. I find it a bit dense, and not as interesting as, say, V for Vendetta

But a big part of the experience is knowing the context of the book, what was going on at the time. Other comics were entertaining, but for the most part they were a bit trite. No one was really doing in-depth story telling, there was no Vertigo, there was no Paradox Press, or Top Shelf, etc.. When Watchmen came out, there was really nothing comprable to it.

That, and out in the real world, this was the mid 80s, and the Cold War was raging on. The threat of nuclear war was always imminent. Nowadays, the idea of a nuclear attack somewhere is scary, but there's really no situation where it would escalate. Back then, the US and Russia could easily have destroyed the world at the drop of a hat, and almost did a couple of times.

these're important elements to the climate the book was released in

Kool-Aid
08-17-2006, 10:12 AM
So, I read Death--the high cost of living last night. I bought this book for five bucks at a used book store a month or two back and just kept fogetting about it and whatever. The only Sandman stuff I've ever read was Sandman Endless Nights. I really liked that book and Deaths story in it the most, which was the reason I picked it up. I really loved this book after reading it I couldn't get it out of my mind(not that I'd want to) and had dreams about it.:o It was just one of thoes book that hit all the right notes for me. Now wanting to get more Sandman books just for Deaths appearances, but I'm not sure if there are anymore.:( I never here people talk about this book or recommend it.....except for one of my local comic shop dealers who I'm real cool with. Yeah so anyway, I explained my little infatuation with it, now go pick it up.:up:

WallCrawl
08-17-2006, 10:16 AM
I was interested in picking up the Madman trades, but a friend of mine suggested only getting the early ones since the series' tone changes for the worse later on. I wanted to hear what other people thought about that, or about Madman in general.

Kool-Aid
08-17-2006, 10:50 AM
Has anybody else read this book?http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1382/shiftyve6.gif (http://imageshack.us)


So, I read Death--the high cost of living last night. I bought this book for five bucks at a used book store a month or two back and just kept fogetting about it and whatever. The only Sandman stuff I've ever read was Sandman Endless Nights. I really liked that book and Deaths story in it the most, which was the reason I picked it up. I really loved this book after reading it I couldn't get it out of my mind(not that I'd want to) and had dreams about it.:o It was just one of thoes book that hit all the right notes for me. Now wanting to get more Sandman books just for Deaths appearances, but I'm not sure if there are anymore.:( I never here people talk about this book or recommend it.....except for one of my local comic shop dealers who I'm real cool with. Yeah so anyway, I explained my little infatuation with it, now go pick it up.:up:

WallCrawl
08-17-2006, 11:28 AM
Has anybody else read this book?http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1382/shiftyve6.gif (http://imageshack.us)

I've got it ordered off of Amazon, I should have it soon. The only Sandman books I haven't read are Dream Hunters and the two Death minis.

Kool-Aid
08-17-2006, 11:33 AM
Death minis.



Were they good, what were they called? I really like her character.http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2408/loveop7.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Kool-Aid
08-20-2006, 01:10 AM
I bought Death The Time Of Your Life today and I really didn't like it. If you read The High Cost of Living and want to read a book about Foxglove and Hazel get it, because thats what this book focuses on them. Death only says one word answers through pretty much the whole thing and appears very little. It sucked.:down: It sucks I liked her character so much that I bought all her appearances today.....even the manga:rolleyes:. I read her first appearane which was really. I was really hoping that this book would actually be about her character and not just in the figurative sense.:(

GNR
08-20-2006, 01:30 PM
Finally got around to reading the Long Halloween.The whole noir/mystery vibe was stellar,Sale's art in this is a winner for sure.I read this straight and was pretty much turning every page in great anticipation.Great twists and surprises to boot.

One question:Can someone give me a timeline of who "Holiday" was from Halloween to Halloween?I got a tad bit confused at the end.From what I understand,Gilda began the killings.But when Alberto was "murdered" and faked his death,Gilda said Harvey picked up where she left off.

Dark Victory awaits.

GNR
08-20-2006, 04:13 PM
I just scored a pretty sweet deal over at Jinxworld in a swap thread.

I'm getting rid of Ultimate X-Men New Mutants (in singles),Ult X-Men Blockbuster (the trade),Ult X-Men Cry Wolf (issues) and ASM Happy Birthday.

In return,I'm getting Watchmen,Astro City Book 1 and Top 10 Book 1.Cannot wait!

The Hero
08-20-2006, 04:24 PM
I just scored a pretty sweet deal over at Jinxworld in a swap thread.

I'm getting rid of Ultimate X-Men New Mutants (in singles),Ult X-Men Blockbuster (the trade),Ult X-Men Cry Wolf (issues) and ASM Happy Birthday.

In return,I'm getting Watchmen,Astro City Book 1 and Top 10 Book 1.Cannot wait!
You're a lucky man. :up:

Anubis
08-20-2006, 07:42 PM
Yeah, that's quite a haul. But a warning, don't let the Hype of Watchmen get to you. It's not for everybody.

Anyway, I finished Phil Hester's Oversight: Short Stories 1990-2005. Good stuff. Kinda creepy and weird in most places. The guys like a more sane Grant Morrison. My particular favorites were Boneshaker, Wetwork, Nailboss, his Punch & Judy stuff, and Pooch. Those in particular rocked. 4 out of 5 from me.

GNR
08-20-2006, 07:48 PM
Yeah, that's quite a haul. But a warning, don't let the Hype of Watchmen get to you. It's not for everybody.

Anyway, I finished Phil Hester's Oversight: Short Stories 1990-2005. Good stuff. Kinda creepy and weird in most places. The guys like a more sane Grant Morrison. My particular favorites were Boneshaker, Wetwork, Nailboss, his Punch & Judy stuff, and Pooch. Those in particular rocked. 4 out of 5 from me.

I read the first scene and was quite pleased.

Is Top 10 total humor?Some reviews said there was alot of humor in book 1,which got me thinking.

Anubis
08-20-2006, 07:50 PM
No, it's not just humor. They tackle some pretty heavy topics in the series. Hell, volume II is down right disturbing.

GNR
08-20-2006, 07:54 PM
Can't wait to read all 3.I'm still in the middle of Dark Victory as we speak.

Anubis
08-20-2006, 07:55 PM
Enjoying it?

GNR
08-20-2006, 08:13 PM
Enjoying it?

I started and finished Long Halloween today.I loved it very much.As I said earlier,the whole noir/crime feel to it thanks to Sale's incredible work really got me.I was only confused about one thing.....Which murders was Alberto responsible for besides the ones the Dents performed?

I'm going to start reading DV from the beginning again,I have a habit of starting and finishing trades in one read,better effect!

Kool-Aid
08-20-2006, 08:23 PM
I agree:up:

I just read the Death manga today. It was pretty funny, I enjoyed it for what it was. I liked this alot better then Death The Time Of Your Life.:mad: I dunno, this is the first manga I've ever finished, although I've started to read one before.

Anubis
08-20-2006, 08:30 PM
I started and finished Long Halloween today.I loved it very much.As I said earlier,the whole noir/crime feel to it thanks to Sale's incredible work really got me.I was only confused about one thing.....Which murders was Alberto responsible for besides the ones the Dents performed?

I'm going to start reading DV from the beginning again,I have a habit of starting and finishing trades in one read,better effect!

Alberto didn't kill anybody. He just took advantage of the situation and tried to take credit for it all.

rigel7soldiers
08-20-2006, 08:41 PM
She-Hulk, vols 1 & 2: I felt too bad for Titania to read all the way through her origin...

Dc's Alan Moore Collection: Oh. That's why Mogo doesn't socialize, I guess.
Lotsa cool GL stuff in there.

Twisted Toyfare Theatre, vol. 7: Speaking of Alan Moore, TTT's portrayal of him is uncredibly hilarious.

GNR
08-20-2006, 08:53 PM
Alberto didn't kill anybody. He just took advantage of the situation and tried to take credit for it all.

Thanks for clearing that up.After Gilda mentioned how Harv and her did the killings I was like ,wait a sec.When the heck did Alberto kill anybody?

Either way,great read.

Are the Astro City trades pretty self contained?Or do they end in like cliffhangers for the next trade?

Anubis
08-20-2006, 09:00 PM
Nah, they're all self contained, though there are certain minor plot points that get explored in later volumes. Like what happened to the original Jack in the Box, or why is it that nobody wants to talk about what happened to the Silver Agent.

GNR
08-20-2006, 09:12 PM
Sweet.I'm probably going to get Top 10 book 2,Astro City Confessions,or Trinity next.

Identity Crisis is still waiting to be read.

I'm goind to hold off on Secret Identity for a while,I read through a copy over the weekend,and I wasn't too jazzed.I like it when Supes is portrayed with a sense of alienation(Birthright) or even as a god like being(Red Son,Kingdom Come) rather than a kid who finds out he has Superman's powers.

Anubis
08-20-2006, 09:15 PM
Well, it presents a lot of different problems for him as he gets older. It's more of a realistic look at what would happen if there was a Superman in the real world. Best chapter for me was when he decides to finally get the Government off his back for the sake of his family.

Kool-Aid
08-20-2006, 09:20 PM
Anubis, have you read the Death minis?

Anubis
08-20-2006, 09:23 PM
Yeah. I did a review for them somewhere in this thread. I liked them both, though time of your life was the weakest one.

Kool-Aid
08-20-2006, 09:29 PM
Yeah, it was pretty good. I was a harsh on it. I think it was because I wasn't really in a comic reading mood at the time and sometimes that has a effect on how I feel about the book after. But I really loved The High Cost Of Living. I think its even being opted for a movie.

Anubis
08-20-2006, 09:34 PM
I understand. You go in expecting a book about Death and instead you get a couple of Lesbo's and they're dead kid.

KingOfDreams
08-20-2006, 09:34 PM
The Technopriests: Initiation - Humanoids has some really interesting stuff. I first became aware of the company when I found a couple issues of The Metabarons in the quarter bins. The Technopriests is essentially told in flashback though it doesn't feel that way. It tells the story of Albino, the unloved son of a cheese merchant who becomes the leader of the guild of Technopriests, essentially a religious order that creates virtual reality video games. The way the story is laid out reminds me of Harry Potter a lot actually. The art is great as is the character, creature and scenery designs. Just like The Metabarons this is one of the most original sci-fi worlds I've ever seen.

Excalibur: Forging The Sword - I hadn't read the beginning to this short-lived series until I bought this. In my opinion, Claremont was on top of his game with this series. The new characters introduced had interesting, original powers and regularly seeing Magneto and Professor X work together is interesting because they are foils. This contributes to a good balance in the series. I didn't really realize how much I liked the character of Professor X until he was gone during House of M and a good while after. Even after all the questionable things he's done, I still really enjoy seeing the character in Uncanny now. But I digress. Callisto is always a fun character even though those tentacle arms never looks right to me.

Batman: Bloodstorm - I know a lot of people don't like Kelley Jones' art but it really fit these vampire stories. The shadows and sharp angles remind me of Nosferatu. And the story's decent too in a slightly campy goth way.

GNR
08-21-2006, 04:05 PM
I love this thread

Within the past month or so I've managed to pick up and enjoy:

Kingdom Come
Dark Knight Returns
Captain America Winter Solider Vol.1
Superman For All Seasons
Superman Red Son
Batman Year One
Superman Birthright
Batman Long Halloween
Batman Dark Victory

Watchmen,Astro City book 1,and Top 10 book 1 are on their way this week.

What should I get next?

Elijya
08-21-2006, 05:24 PM
(well, ya know, we have a recommendations thread....)


:D


but seriously, there's lots of stuff out there to look into. If you end up liking the Moore stuff you ordered, get V for Vendetta, Promethea, and the DC Universe Stories of Alan Moore.

If you really dug Kingdom Come, look into Marvels, Uncle Sam, and Earth X

If you liked the Loeb/Sale books (For All Seasons, Dark Victory, Long Halloween) look into the three minis they did for Marvel: Daredevil: YEllow, Spider-Man: Blue, and Hulk: Grey

MyPokerShirt
08-21-2006, 05:57 PM
If you end up liking the Moore stuff you ordered, get V for Vendetta, Promethea, and the DC Universe Stories of Alan Moore.
http://www.dccomics.com/features/abc/intro.html - check it out biatchs. there's nothing better than making a decision on your own tastes. oh and what the heck, may as well plug it AGAIN:
Vertigo stuff - http://www.dccomics.com/news/?nw=6186
ok, forget the second recommendation - i cant get the bloody things to work now :(

supes_el
08-21-2006, 06:41 PM
Uncle Sam Review:
Good book with some moving art. Really moving art. Alex Ross does a great job with details and capturing the moment in general. The story was decent. However, I was somewhat disappointed at the ending. All that reading for an ending like that isnt usually to my taste. I also thought that the book could have been a bit longer without losing anything.

In the end: I would say, borrow this and check it out.

Kool-Aid
08-21-2006, 06:51 PM
I love this thread

Within the past month or so I've managed to pick up and enjoy:

Kingdom Come
Dark Knight Returns
Captain America Winter Solider Vol.1
Superman For All Seasons
Superman Red Son
Batman Year One
Superman Birthright
Batman Long Halloween
Batman Dark Victory

Watchmen,Astro City book 1,and Top 10 book 1 are on their way this week.

What should I get next?


Arkham Asylum: Serious House On Serious Earth
The Sandman
If you like Ed Brubaker get The Man Who Laughs too.
:up:

GNR
08-21-2006, 07:02 PM
(well, ya know, we have a recommendations thread....)


:D


but seriously, there's lots of stuff out there to look into. If you end up liking the Moore stuff you ordered, get V for Vendetta, Promethea, and the DC Universe Stories of Alan Moore.

If you really dug Kingdom Come, look into Marvels, Uncle Sam, and Earth X

If you liked the Loeb/Sale books (For All Seasons, Dark Victory, Long Halloween) look into the three minis they did for Marvel: Daredevil: YEllow, Spider-Man: Blue, and Hulk: Grey

I already got Marvels a while ago and liked it.I might just check out V at the library,I've seen the movie so I would probably know where everything is heading.

Elijya
08-21-2006, 07:03 PM
Uncle Sam Review:
Good book with some moving art. Really moving art. Alex Ross does a great job with details and capturing the moment in general. The story was decent. However, I was somewhat disappointed at the ending. All that reading for an ending like that isnt usually to my taste. I also thought that the book could have been a bit longer without losing anything.

In the end: I would say, borrow this and check it out.
Uncle Sam is one of my all time favorite comics, I can safely recommend that it's worth purchase

Elijya
08-21-2006, 07:14 PM
I already got Marvels a while ago and liked it.I might just check out V at the library,I've seen the movie so I would probably know where everything is heading.
for the most part, but there's many scenes that were criminally absent from the screenplay that you'll enjoy

If you dug Marvels and Kingdom Come, you should DEFINITELY look into Uncle Sam, as well as this little baby:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401202543/sr=8-1/qid=1156205216/ref=sr_1_1/002-5267944-3392805?ie=UTF8

This is a massive, oversized 400 page hardcover with slipcase collection of 6 stories by Alex Ross and Paul Dini (of Batman: The Animated Series) with bonus features. The fact that they only want $31.49 (with free shipping) for this is insane

GNR
08-21-2006, 10:52 PM
I understand there are 5 Astro City trades.Book 1 is already on it's way to me,so I was wondering which of the other 4 are the best?I've seen alot of praise for Confession.

Sentry2005
08-22-2006, 04:28 AM
Grrrrr.... Get Secret Identity :mad: And if you have it, READ it :mad:

:)

Anubis
08-22-2006, 11:42 AM
I understand there are 5 Astro City trades.Book 1 is already on it's way to me,so I was wondering which of the other 4 are the best?I've seen alot of praise for Confession.

I liked Confession best of all. All of them were good though.

GNR
08-22-2006, 11:52 AM
Grrrrr.... Get Secret Identity :mad: And if you have it, READ it :mad:

:)

As I said,I read through it,but it didn't really grab me at all.

GNR
08-22-2006, 11:54 AM
I liked Confession best of all. All of them were good though.

Would I be fine with Book 1 and 2?Or does is leave off at the end of Confessions with a cliffy?

Sentry2005
08-22-2006, 12:18 PM
As I said,I read through it,but it didn't really grab me at all.

WHAT?! I just lost my faith in humanity :(

Anubis
08-22-2006, 12:48 PM
Would I be fine with Book 1 and 2?Or does is leave off at the end of Confessions with a cliffy?

Nope, all the volumes are self contained. You'll get the whole Confessor story.

Elijya
08-22-2006, 04:18 PM
Wow, I just finished Secret Identity an hour ago :eek:

I am forever changed :Sniff: :(

supes_el
08-22-2006, 05:27 PM
^^ Congrats man. I loved that book. I gave it to a co-worker and got him to confess he liked it also. I'm glad its finally getting read.

Sentry2005
08-22-2006, 05:41 PM
Wow, I just finished Secret Identity an hour ago :eek:

I am forever changed :Sniff: :(

Really? I thought you'd already read it :confused:

Who the hell told me about it then?! :mad:

Anubis
08-22-2006, 05:51 PM
Probally me.

Sentry2005
08-22-2006, 05:54 PM
Probally me.

Actually, I remember now. It was neither of you. Ha!

Lol, it was my friend who told me to get it, even though he hadn't read it, he had just heard it was good.

This was about a year ago, when I was JUST getting back into comics after about 4 years out. It was before I knew who had written my favourate stories when I was younger.

The brilliant coincidence was that Busiek had written my favourate Avengers run, and he wrote Secret Identity :)

GNR
08-22-2006, 10:17 PM
I love Busiek,don't get me wrong.I think he's an ace writer.

Anubis
08-22-2006, 10:21 PM
I just got his Spider-Man Visionaries, which collects his run on Untold Tales of Spider-Man. Looks good. I also got Slott's Arkham Asylum, and Absolute Batman: Hush. My first Absolute edition. It's so pretty.

I'm also loving Black Hole. I can't believe that stupid bastard had sex with that chick. I mean, sure, I would have considered it. The chick had a tail and liked walking around the house with no underwear on. But I'd like to think I could show some restraint when faced with possibly turning into some nose-less freak digging for food out of a burger barn garbage can.

GNR
08-22-2006, 10:28 PM
Guys,I can't wait until Watchmen,Top 10 and Astro City all come in the mail,I'm so jazzed.

Frig,I haven't even finished Dark Victory yet!

Anubis one final question,after reading LH again,Alberto faked his own death and killed everyone from there on out true?Meaning while Dent was still sane,he never killed anyone right?

Anubis
08-22-2006, 10:32 PM
Well, I've been thinking about this for awhile since you brought it up, and what I've come up with is that, it was really just Gilda and Alberto who did all the killing. Gilda just thought that Harvey killed the rest, but after Alberto faked his death, he killed everybody else. That rant at the end by Gilda was just her assuming that it was Harvey that took over for her, but that wasn't the case. At least that's what I have gathered.

Heh, wow, I get the 1,000th post. Cool.