Saving Enterprise - official thread

[wiegeabo]

As official liaison between TrekUnited.com and SuperHeroHype, I've created this thread to provide fans of Star Trek: Enterprise a place to discuss the show and the current efforts to save it from cancellation. All efforts to save Enterprise are being coordinated at www.TrekUnited.com.

Being the official liaison, I am here to answer any questions and/or concerns the fans may have. If you are a fan, you’re more than welcome to discuss our movement here. If you’re not a fan, you are still more than welcome to do so. We turn no one away who is genuinely interested in discussing Enterprise and our efforts to save it. All I ask is that we be respectful of each other.

The first question on your mind might be, “How can Enterprise be saved?” Or maybe its, “How can this effort to save a show be any better than others?” Star Trek fans have a history of saving the franchise when the executives think we’ve had enough. The first series was saved by fan efforts twice. And the fans convinced Paramount to give Enterprise a season 4. Now we’re out to get season five.

While TrekUnited is a grassroots organization of fans determined to keep the show in the minds of executives at Paramount through letter writing, faxes, email, and other methods, we are also going one step further than most other efforts. We are out to make sure that Paramount has no excuse to not produce this show for a fifth season. We are going to buy Enterprise!!!

That’s right, buy Enterprise! Our goal is to raise the $36 million necessary to pay for a season of production (24 episodes). We know this sounds like a crazy idea, but that’s why it is going to work. So how far have we come? As of this date (3/31/05), since 2/14/05 we have raised over $3 million!

Granted, $3 million is still a long way from our goal, but our efforts have created other successes. TrekUnited has become incorporated so we can be an official sponsor, and has begun talks with Paramount (which Paramount initiated). Our work has convinced Paramount to not tear down the sets! And, due to the fans reaction, Paramount had decided to begin working on a new Trek movie. The Enterprise actors are still on contract and the show is essentially on hiatus (although it is still officially canceled). We’ve come to the attention of key individuals in the civilian space programs who’ve donated millions and given us their full support. We also have support from cast, crew, and individuals including Manny Coto (executive producer) and Eugene Roddenberry Jr. We even have the support of members of the United States Congress!

Or focus now is to keep Paramount aware of our efforts. To let them know that there is enough of an audience to support a fifth season and make it profitable. How can you help? One way is to donate your money (online through PayPal, or offline). Pay for 24-hours of a show you like to watch instead of renting a couple of DVD’s or going to the theater once or twice. Think of it as on-demand TV or Pay-Per-View. If you can’t or don’t want to donate money, and even if you do, you can help by writing letters and emails. Send faxes and postcards. Get us mentioned in local media. Hold rallies. Do whatever you can to bring publicity to the campaign. (All we ask is that your efforts remain professional. Don’t be forceful or go overboard.)

And if you only have enough money to give to either TrekUnited or a charity, then, please, by all means, give to the charity. We realize what takes priority. But know that donating to the campaign and to charity are not mutually exclusive. You don’t have to sacrifice one for the other. Many of our members, myself included, have donated with money from our entertainment budget, not touching money budgeted for other things. As I stated before, just don’t rent movies or games for a month. Don’t go to the theater quite as often. Simple little things can make a difference because any donation, no matter large or small, shows Paramount how much we love this show, and what it stands for.

We can succeed! Don’t let a program that promotes the heights and goodness of humanity fade away just because the profits aren’t there. Don’t let one of the few programs left that families can watch together disappear. If 3 million people around the world (that’s the world) would only give $12 to the cause, then we win. And since there are 3 million viewers in the United States alone, there is no reason we can’t pull this off. If you love Enterprise and Star Trek, please help. Or if you’re just tired of networks telling us what we can and cannot watch, or have lost a show that you loved, please help. We’re making history. We’re making the future. And you can be a part of it.

If you have any questions at all, you can go to TrekUnited.com or read our FAQ at http://www.trekunited.com/faq.php?lang=en. (Our website is in multiple languages for your convenience.) At the website, you can also find the email address for our legal department, among others. Or you can ask your questions here and have them answered by me.

You can also ask general questions to our administrators at info@trekunited.com. Other email addresses for departments can be found at the website.

[Superfreak]

will this effort include the removal of Rick Berman, and the current writing team? Because IMO, they don't deserve the job. Example: the Vulcan arc this season... although extremely entertaining, it merely a reuse of an episode that they released in the early seasons. It's stuff like this that makes me dislike Enterprise. I thought the show started out great. It was novel. And it bridged the gap between contemporary times, and the star trek universe... once they got phasers, a lot of that feeling went away (phasers as an example). I was interested in the crossover between series and reality that they had going in the first season. Plasma rifles, the farmer shooting the klingon etc. Now, the show's just turned into 2nd rate conventional trek.

as I stated in the other Enterprise thread, my support will be given, only if I'm wowed by the next few new episodes... but I have a feeling that that is unlikely.

[War Lord]

April Fools!

[wiegeabo]

April Fools!

Actually, it's not April Fools. Although, admittedly, I could have timed this thread a little better.


will this effort include the removal of Rick Berman, and the current writing team? Because IMO, they don't deserve the job. Example: the Vulcan arc this season... although extremely entertaining, it merely a reuse of an episode that they released in the early seasons. It's stuff like this that makes me dislike Enterprise. I thought the show started out great. It was novel. And it bridged the gap between contemporary times, and the star trek universe... once they got phasers, a lot of that feeling went away (phasers as an example). I was interested in the crossover between series and reality that they had going in the first season. Plasma rifles, the farmer shooting the klingon etc. Now, the show's just turned into 2nd rate conventional trek.

as I stated in the other Enterprise thread, my support will be given, only if I'm wowed by the next few new episodes... but I have a feeling that that is unlikely.

Braga is leaving Enterprise. He's created a new show and will be moving to another network to produce it. Manny Coto will stay on as executive producer and writer.

And thank you for the support Superfreak!

[Mr Sparkle]

might I ask why you deem such a horrible show of getting saved?
Honestly even Voyager was better than this and it had a horrible captain, you were hoping for ther to be assimilated, unlike Picard, you didn't respect her intelligence unlike sisco, and she didn't get it on with any green women unlike Kirk, and still she was better than that guy from quantum leap, whatever the **** his name was in the series, they even tried to save the show with the "7 of 9" hot alien girl trick and even that didn't work.

they should've known better...my questions stands......why?????

[wiegeabo]

That's a very good question, one that we are asked a lot.

Some of us do feel this show is worth saving. The quality ot the latest two seasons especially have been outstanding. Many people who have joined up said they did so only because this current season was so good (they didn't care much for the first seasons either). And since season five will also have Manny Coto (who pretty much turned the show around), it promises to be just as good, or even better.

The previous Trek spinoffs all took 3 seasons to hit their primes, and Enterprise is no different. If you're not a fan of the show, that's fine, we'll respect that. There's plenty of shows out there that I can't stand and wish would go away. But if you've ever been a big fan of a show that was canceled before its time because, apparently, not enough people liked it, then maybe you can sympathize with the way we feel.


Oh, and Scott Bakula played Samuel Beckett on Quantum Leap.

[The Lizard]

There's only one thing that can save Enterprise now........http://www.jitterbug.com/origins/pix3/gorn.jpg

[Hogan]

*yawn*

I thought this show was cancelled like three years ago...

Let it go, already... focus on using your talents for good, not evil.

[wiegeabo]

There's only one thing that can save Enterprise now........http://www.jitterbug.com/origins/pix3/gorn.jpg


Coincidently, the Gorn will make an appearance later this season.

[wiegeabo]

*yawn*

I thought this show was cancelled like three years ago...

Let it go, already... focus on using your talents for good, not evil.


Stepping up on my high horse

Enterprise has improved with every season. And what could be more good than the future Star Trek shows us. Where all of humanity is united together and the world has solved the problems that are tearing us apart today.


Stepping down from my high horse :)

[Hogan]

Stepping up on my high horse

Enterprise has improved with every season. And what could be more good than the future Star Trek shows us. Where all of humanity is united together and the world has solved the problems that are tearing us apart today.


Stepping down from my high horse :)

What could be "more good" is letting a tapped-out franchise (that should have been put out of its misery years ago) die already.

[wiegeabo]

That's a good point. Does the franchise need a break? Obviously many people think so.

And many of us agree that maybe Trek should take a break. But not right now! Not when it just getting so good! We want to make sure Enterprise gets the seven year run it was originally scheduled for. And the quality of these last two seasons just goes to show that Trek isn't quite ready to take a rest.

And that's all we want. To ensure Enterprise gets the run it deserves. After the show has run its original course, if Paramount wants to take a couple of years off, we can live with that. Just not now.

[wiegeabo]

Bump--with an update

TrekUnited has just become an Amazon.com associate. This means that if you go to Amazon.com from a link on our website and purchase something (anything) then we get 5% (as long as you don't leave Amazon between visiting TrekUnited and making the purchase). All money from this will go directly to paying for season 5.

You can also buy TrekUnited merchandise from the website. The deal with our manufacturer/distributor will provide us with $5 for each product sold to use for server, upgrades, and bandwidth costs. (Currently our founder Tim Brazeal is paying $500/month from his own pocket.)

These provide you with a couple of ways to help the cause while getting something more out of it than season 5 alone. If you're a fan and are going to buy something from Amazon anyway, why not go through TrekUnited.com? It won't cost you anything extra, and you can help support the show.

[Hogan]

This is just sick. Why not use that money for something useful like donating to charity or feeding starving people? Why waste it on a crap TV show that most people won't even watch anyway?

[wiegeabo]

Straight from the FAQ:

5. Why spend money on a TV show?
We are in no way suggesting that you should contribute to Star Trek rather than to charitable organizations. However, Star Trek has always been a beacon of hope in an all too cynical and pessimistic world, positively influencing the lives of millions. To use just a little of the money you'd spend on entertainment anyway for the cause of keeping Star Trek alive isn't a bad expense then either, is it?


In essence, people can spend their money on whatever they want. Why is it ok to spend money on movies, games, and comics and not this? Why not give that money to charity? By your logic we shouldn't spend any money on entertainment and give it all to charity. Maybe we should. This isn't an either-or thing. They're not mutually exclusive. I only used money in my entertainment budget to try and pay for a show that I like. I'm just not going to rent as many movies.

If you don't like Enterprise, then by all means, spend your money on something else. And if it is a choice between giving to Enterprise or a charity, please give to the charity.

[Hobbes]

Hogan, you're clearly looking to pick a fight, why the anger?

[KingOfDreams]

I am a Star Trek fan. That's why I don't want Enterprise to continue. It's a disgrace to the franchise.

[wiegeabo]

That's fine, we wouldn't expect you to contribute to something you didn't believe in.


Just out of curiosity, when did you stop watching Enterprise? You don't have to answer if you don't want to.

[wiegeabo]

Bump--with some more information

Just in case you're wondering what would happen to your money if we failed...

All money donated to TrekUnited would be refunded-minus 5% transaction fees charged by Paypal and the banks.

Because of the varying transaction fees from the different possible banks involved, the 5% flat fee is used. Any money remaining in excess of the 5% will be donated to American Tsunami relief.

[Hogan]

Not picking a fight, just don't see the point in wasting time with a sub-par show from a tired, played out franchise. If you really need Star Trek in your life that bad, why not turn to other outlets like comics, books, fan sites, stalking George Takei, etc. Instead of wasting energy on a show that with all likelyhood is never coming back, put your money, time, and talent into something worthwhile. After all, it's just a friggin' TV show, not a religious organization (although you might not know it by the way these people act).

[wiegeabo]

Please don't typecast all the fans out there based on just a few examples. The idea that all Trek fans are religiously fanatical geeks that have nothing better to do with their lives is no more accurate than the idea that all comic book fans are religiously fanatical nerds that have nothing better to do with their lives.

[KingOfDreams]

Just out of curiosity, when did you stop watching Enterprise? You don't have to answer if you don't want to.

Honestly, I stopped quite early on. I haven't seen the show in a long time. Maybe it's gotten better. I don't know.

[wiegeabo]

Ever since Manny Coto came on board, the show has really turned around.

[Hobbes]

Man, I want to make fun of wiegeabo for liking this show, but he's so damn respectable:( Stupid calm, collected, logical fan:(

[Mr Sparkle]

That's a very good question, one that we are asked a lot.

Some of us do feel this show is worth saving. The quality ot the latest two seasons especially have been outstanding. Many people who have joined up said they did so only because this current season was so good (they didn't care much for the first seasons either). And since season five will also have Manny Coto (who pretty much turned the show around), it promises to be just as good, or even better.

The previous Trek spinoffs all took 3 seasons to hit their primes, and Enterprise is no different. If you're not a fan of the show, that's fine, we'll respect that. There's plenty of shows out there that I can't stand and wish would go away. But if you've ever been a big fan of a show that was canceled before its time because, apparently, not enough people liked it, then maybe you can sympathize with the way we feel.


Oh, and Scott Bakula played Samuel Beckett on Quantum Leap.

damn you! you almost make me want to save that show.
but don't you think that format is wrong, and that the high camp value is killing it in it's way.

well, if you like it that much and have such valid reasons.

I really liked "The Ben Stiller Show" it lasted one year.

I understand.

[wiegeabo]

Bump -- with an update

Every tuesday night at 1pm PST (9pm GMT) the staff of TrekUnited.com have a live chat where questions can be asked and answered.

You can get to the chat through the forums at http://www.trekfansunited.com/forum/. You'll have to register to particiapte.

[wiegeabo]

Partial list of celebrities supporting us:

Manny Coto (executive producer, Star Trek: Enterprise)

Eugene "Rod" Roddenberry Jr.

John and Bjo Trimble (heads of the 1968 Star Trek convention)

Stephen Hawking

Jeffrey Combs (actor, ENT: Shran)

Chase Masterson (actress, DS9: Leeta; Fandom.com)

Three anonymous players in the commercial spaceflight industry, donors of 1m$ each


More to come...

[Caliber]

Why save a crappy show?

[wiegeabo]

Because many of us don't think its a bad show. There must be shows that you like that others think should be off the air. Everyone has a show they like that other people hate. That's just the way it is.


If you don't want to save Enterprise, that's your choice. This thread is to bring together those who want to save the show, as well provide information to those who do and do not wish it to continue.

[Hogan]

Umm... I'm not exactly seeing a wealth of support...

[Caliber]

Umm... I'm not exactly seeing a wealth of support...

I just don't see the point and I'm a Star Trek fan. I just became one because my friend convinced me. He even hates the new show.

[Hogan]

I just don't see the point and I'm a Star Trek fan. I just became one because my friend convinced me. He even hates the new show.

That's my point. Not much use in trying to resurrect a show that nobody (except a small minority) wants.

[wiegeabo]

But that small minority believes that there is a point. And with the improvement of the show these last two seasons, I've seen a lot of Enterprise haters change their minds. So the minority is growing.

If there are supporters on these boards, then this thread is here for them. If there aren't supporters here, then I'm not out anything except the time it took to type this. But I, and others, feel that it's worth the effort.

[wiegeabo]

You can also ask general questions to our administrators at info@trekunited.com. Other email addresses for departments can be found at the website.

(This has been added to the starting post as well)

[wiegeabo]

TrekUnited and SaveEnterprise now have an official podcast (online radio show) for those who want to listen. It can be found at Slice of Sci-Fi (http://www.sliceofscifi.com). While it is the official podcast of the save enterprise effort, it will not be limited to the Star Trek universe.

Slice of Sci-Fi will touch on as many aspects of sci-fi in general that the viewers want to listen to and discuss. Please give it a listen.

[Mr Sparkle]

how goes the quest sir? do you think you'll make it?

[wiegeabo]

Thanks for asking.

Honestly, we've sort of hit a temporary plataea where donations have slowed. But this is because all who have joined have given all they can (at least until the next round of paychecks :D ). So we're at the point where we need to get some more publicity to bring new supporters on board. But we've had over 8,000 individuals donate, so we are making progress, and did have a nice jump in money the last couple of days. And there might be a couple of corporate sponsors donating soon, but since it hasn't happened yet, none of us are quite ready to count on it.

As for making it, I think we can. If we will basically revolves around the problem of getting publicity. There are some rallies planned around the world in the next couple of months. And we are getting some more media attention, most recently by the New York Times. It's just getting the snowball rolling enough to cause an avalanche right now.

[Mr Sparkle]

well good luck.
maybe, just maybe cable will pick it up, you never know.


oh, and A sugestion, instead of rallies, plan stunts, outrageous stuff that'll get you some air timesomewhere, maybe even like the today show.

just a thought.

[FTCBIRDMAN]

I really respect what you are doing, but if Angel couldn't get renewed I doubt Enterprise has much of a chance. Good luck to you anyway.

[wiegeabo]

Sorry to be away for so long. Thanks for the encouragement FTC. Much appreciated.

Heads up for anyone interested. A big announcement and press release is scheduled for later today. I'd give you more information, but the staff involved won't even tell any of us what the announcement will be about. (It's been a long two days since they told us it was coming). You can keep checking TrekUnited.com for updates, and I'll post the announcement here the first chance I get.


I'll also mention a couple of other upcomming events:
Dallas/Ft. Worth Texas rally April 16.
Hickory, NC rally April 16.
Houston: Save Enterprise BBQ April 23.

You can go to TrekUnited.com and click on the links for more information.

[Caliber]

This is truly sad.

[wiegeabo]

Well, most of the news that was supposed to come out yesterday has come out today.

TrekToday has an article that confirms TrekUnited, with a group of Canadian production companies, is in talks with Paramount to produce a fifth season. The article can be found here: TrekToday (http://www.trektoday.com/news/150405_01.shtml)

IGN also confirms that TrekUnited's handling of all contributions have been above board and legal. Unfortunately, as the article explains, they could not print all that they wanted due to server problems. The complete report will run in next week's edition of their Trek Report. The article can be found here: IGN (http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/604/604625p1.html?fromint=1)

[Superfreak]

tonights the big night, will enterprise shine, or will it totally fail to capture my support with a mediocre overmelodramatic crapfest that it has been for the last few seasons

[wiegeabo]

Well, tonight's episode will probably have a lot of comedy. Then the next two episodes will take place in the mirror universe and should be pretty exciting. Then the two episodes after that are supposed to be very dramatic because a violent xenophobic movement has sprung up on Earth.

So here's hoping the season stays as strong as it has been. :)

[GLREBORN]

The show is dead. Which is great because it was Crap anyway.

And Brandon Braga got fired.

[Superfreak]

last night was crap, sorry but that's my opinion. Especially magnified by the fact that this was a breakfast episode.

mirror universe is next? And people wonder why Enterprise is going down... it's because nothing that every happens on the show matters. It's either an alternate timeline, or another dimension bla bla bla bla bla. Character development has been great, I won't argue with that. But everything other than that is either cliche, already done, or is just plain boring.

why don't they devote these last 5 episodes to the founding of the federation? That's essentially what the show is about. Why don't they focus on that? Why return to the concept that essentially killed the show during the 3rd season (ie. alternate realities etc)?

Why do the writers keep flogging the same old dead horse?

I like enterprise, I like the crew, I like the set, and the whole background for the story. What I don't like, is how they've used all these stupid narrative tools such as time travel and what not? Why can't they bring it back to what the show was originally about? A crappy ship, with crappy weapons, and all about exploring.

Enterprise has failed me. What should almost be an epic show, showing the foundation of the federation, is more like a weekly daytime soap opera, that takes place on a starship.

[cyrus02pso]

last time i checked... star trek sucks... now it has been a while but it was my understanding that enterprise was carrying on this long standing tradition (of sucking). that being said i dont see why they shouldnt cancel the show... i mean honestly their are so many crap shows that stay on whilest good shows get canceled. you shold be thanking the networks that be for finaly cuting of something that sucks so that there is now an opening for something that just might be good...

[TheSumOfGod]

Star Trek is and always has been the smart man's (or smart woman's) science-fiction of choice. Unfortunately, there are less and less smart people out there, especially in America.

[cyrus02pso]

still living in your mothers basement Sum?

[Fettstyl]

Star Trek is and always has been the smart man's (or smart woman's) science-fiction of choice. Unfortunately, there are less and less smart people out there, especially in America.

You make a good point about the smart thing and trek and then you go on to show that you yourself are an idiot by your signature. :rolleyes:

Anyway, personally I'm looking forward to the mirror storyline, it was one of my favorite episodes from the original, I'll enjoy seeing it revisited.

[TheSumOfGod]

still living in your mothers basement Sum?

No, I'm living in YOUR mother's "basement", cyrus. ;) :p

[TheSumOfGod]

You make a good point about the smart thing and trek and then you go on to show that you yourself are an idiot by your signature. :rolleyes:

I'm not putting down religion, I'm just saying that it's insane and violent of nature. ;) :p

[Pink Ranger]

Okay, that opening sequence was one of the coolest things ever. If this show isn't worth saving, I don't know what is.

[Fettstyl]

Okay, that opening sequence was one of the coolest things ever. If this show isn't worth saving, I don't know what is.

I'm assuming your talking about the opening to the mirror episode. It was great. If the whole series had been like that it probably wouldn't be cancelled right now. I'm looking forward to part 2, excellent story so far.

[Pink Ranger]

I'm assuming your talking about the opening to the mirror episode. It was great. If the whole series had been like that it probably wouldn't be cancelled right now. I'm looking forward to part 2, excellent story so far.

D@mn skippy. The women's uniforms were stupid, but otherwise I'm looking forward to the next episode.

[Darth Rockwell]

I don't have tv :( just dvds so I'm patiently waiting for the dvd releases

[GLfan]

Incase You Haven't Heard, The Campaign Has Stopped

LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) Whenever "Star Trek" returns to television in the future, it probably won't be as a direct result of money raised by fans.
The latest campaign to keep the long-running sci-fi franchise on the air has given up its quest to fund a fifth season of UPN's "Star Trek: Enterprise" through donations from fans. The folks behind TrekUnited, which was both the leader of the campaign and an object of ridicule for some "Trek" fans, said last week that they'll start refunding money pledged to the effort.

"[D]espite the significant sum being offered to produce a fifth season ... ['Enterprise' producer] Paramount turned down the offer," a statement on TrekUnited's web site reads. "Paramount has reinforced its stance that it cannot and will not take money contributed by fans, even though TrekUnited became incorporated over one and a half months ago and technically any money offered would not have to be regarded any different than from a corporate sponsor."

That phrase "cannot and will not take money contributed by fans" has been a sticking point for some fans of the franchise, who have been engaged in a running flame war with TrekUnited on several "Star Trek" message boards. The language echoes a letter sent from Paramount executive John Wentworth to TrekUnited head Tim Brazeal in March, which stated that UPN's decision to cancel the show was final.
The letter wasn't made public, however, until it was posted on Paramount's startrek.com site earlier this month. Its release caused Brazeal's doubters to accuse him of being less than upfront about the campaign's chances of success, or worse, that he was using the money for his own gain -- a charge he has repeatedly denied.

The campaign raised more than $140,000 in fan contributions and received a pledge of $3 million from anonymous investors in the "space flight industry," according to TrekUnited. After an initial flurry of donations and the seven-figure pledges, though, money was slow to trickle in, and at any rate fell far short of the amount needed to cover a full season of production.

"Enterprise" will end its four-year run on UPN with two episodes Friday, May 13.

[wiegeabo]

Actually, the campaign hasn't ended, just the fundraising part of it.

TrekUnited was able to bring some corporate sponsors onboard, including a Canadian production company and SkyOne TV (who currently co-funds Battlestar Galactica with Sci-Fi Channel). Together, with fan rasied donations, we offered Paramount over $63 million to produce season 5! This is around $20 million more then what season 5 would cost. Yet they turned the deal down.

One of the reasons Parmount cited for rejecting the offer was that they didn't want to accept fan money, even though TrekUnited had become incorporated and could be an official sponsor to the show. This is why it was decided to end the mony raising part of the campaign and refund the donations. (There was also no need to continue fundraising since we had all the money necessary through corporate sponsors.)

The campaign still continues, we're just reorganizing to take a different approach. Money is obviously not the issue since we've offered much more than is needed. The decision to cancel Enterprise is a political one, and in that respect we're coming up with new campaign ideas.

New deals are being planned that will eventually be offered to Paramount. One of the hottest ideas buzzing around the TU forum is bringing awareness of Paramount's decision to the Viacom shareholders (Viacom owns Paramount). Viacom stock has dropped around $10 off its 52-week high, yet one of Viacom's holdings just turned down a deal that would bring tens of millions of dollars in free money. (It is free money because Paramount would pay nothing for production, therefore all money made from selling season 5 to a network or into syndication would be 100% profit.) Turning the offer down does not make good business sense. To that end, some of our members have actually taken their refunded money and bought stock in Viacom so they can have some small say. Some are even planning to attend the shareholders meeting in May to bring the issue up.

There is also hope in the form of a possible splitting up of Viacom. The company would divide itself into two areas, one of them controlling Viacom's television interests. One of the names mentioned to head the television division up (sorry I can't remember her name right now, it is in the forums but I can't find it) is favorable to sci-fi progamming and would be more likely to accept an Enterprise deal than Les Moonves (who was instrumental in the show's cancellation).


There are other ideas floating about, but the reorganization has us in a sort of jumble right now, so I'm not sure what they all are yet. If anyone has ideas that you'd like to contribute on how we can continue the campaign, we're more than willing to listen. You can post them here and I'll pass them along, or just join the TU forum and list them directly.

[Darthkush]

Honestly, i stopped watching Enterprise during the third season premiere. Last week i started watching again(finally caving into all those,"we swear it's WAY better now rumors and things i've heard on sites not even related to star trek") and my god, it really IS good now. At least, the "in a mirror darkly" 2 parter was good anyway. Those 2 are imo, the single best episodes of the series. I love me some Hoshi Sato and it was great to see her get some spotlight.

I don't know, overall, i don't know if i ever would've liked it as much as some other Trek series(mainly due to them giving little screentime to the supporting cast. poor Mayweather. did he EVER get stuff to do?) but I'm onboard for the final episodes at least.

I think the "save enterprise" campaign is pretty cool though and I think it sucks that Paramount won't give it another season when 63 million has been raised. That's just silly. When you have that much money being shelled out by fans and investors, clearly it's worthy of at least one more season. Hell, if the quality of these last 2 continues, i'd definitely tune in.

[macewin]

I definately liked the mirror thing. It was great to see the original ship design and uniforms done new and fresh. They should make a new trek like that, just pick up a couple years after kirks reign. I don't like the pc storyline of the coming episode though. BUT HEY......thats just me.

[darkdaz]

All i can say to the makers of entrprise. Why didn't you start off with stuff like what has been in this searies and the one before. They are both great and if we had more of this instead of the first 2 series then enterprise would have been able to survive. Stupid berman he needs to get the hell away from trek.

[Venom71]

Anyone watch the final two episodes? What did you think?

[darkdaz]

were the last 2 eps shown together in the us

[Venom71]

were the last 2 eps shown together in the us
Yes I watched them both last night and I hadn't watched it in a long time. I just wanted to see how they ended it and it was interesting. :cool:

[Matt]

Meh, I didn't care for Enterpise. Too much time travel. Plus I think it is really sad that there are people starving, dying because they cannot afford medicine, etc. and these people don't give jack **** about that...but when they find out a TV show they watch is canceled...then they donate money by the thousands. Shows how ****ed up the priorities of the "Trekkies" are.

[War Lord]

Meh, I didn't care for Enterpise. Too much time travel. Plus I think it is really sad that there are people starving, dying because they cannot afford medicine, etc. and these people don't give jack **** about that...but when they find out a TV show they watch is canceled...then they donate money by the thousands. Shows how ****ed up the priorities of the "Trekkies" are.

Not everybody can hold the weight of the world on their shoulders like you can.

[wiegeabo]

Meh, I didn't care for Enterpise. Too much time travel. Plus I think it is really sad that there are people starving, dying because they cannot afford medicine, etc. and these people don't give jack **** about that...but when they find out a TV show they watch is canceled...then they donate money by the thousands. Shows how ****ed up the priorities of the "Trekkies" are.


I'm glad that you spend no money on entertainment like comics, movies, tv, DVD's, or games, and give it all to charities.

Because buying those products which supports those companies and shows/films/etc is the same as we using our entertainment budget to donate to a show that we support.

I and others have said it many times. Contributing to charity and Enterprise was not mutually exclusive. Those who did give to the show took money out of their entertainment budget and did not reduce their charitable donations. And those who could only donate to charity or Enterprise we hope gave to the charity since that is the more important cause. Star Trek, and its fans, have always been about humanity helping itself to reach new heights. Not many other shows out there can say the same.

[Spike_x1]

I really liked this show and am sad that they cancelled it. Oh well. It was still a great finale, tying things together nicely, even having the finale taking place during the course of a classic episode of TNG. :up:

[romulanale]

Meh, I didn't care for Enterpise. Too much time travel. Plus I think it is really sad that there are people starving, dying because they cannot afford medicine, etc. and these people don't give jack **** about that...but when they find out a TV show they watch is canceled...then they donate money by the thousands. Shows how ****ed up the priorities of the "Trekkies" are.

:rolleyes: :yawn:

[Noir]

I love Ent. its a shame it didn't get the time to transform into an awesomer series.

[Oerwinde]

It was pretty weak in the first season, but it definitely evolved. 4th season I pretty much was saying "Holy crap that was awesome" after every episode.

[Superfreak]

It was pretty weak in the first season, but it definitely evolved. 4th season I pretty much was saying "Holy crap that was awesome" after every episode.

except that season 4 was the exact same as 2, with the exception that 4 had bigger guns

[Noir]

except that season 4 was the exact same as 2, with the exception that 4 had bigger guns
Season 2 had regeneration and season 4 had just about every good episode like Cold Station 12 and In a Mirror, Darkly and the Klingon Augment storyline.

[Noir]

Enterprise is airing on Sci Fi its just reruns.

[Eros]

T'Pol was the best part of the show, I also wish Travis[the black pilot] and the asian chick got more development.

[Noir]

Hoshi is the Empress of the Mirror Universe.

[Nightwing]

im a bit lost now....who's the captain in Star Trek Enterprise?

[Super Kal]

Captain Archer

[Argyle of Sock]

Wow, this thread came back from the dead... No matter, I loved Enterprise and it's a shame that it was cancelled and it's a mega-shame that it gets such little respect in the fandom.