"By The Goddess": The Official Storm/Halle Berry Discussion

[Primal Slayer]

I think she's near water and she uses it to make the wave. But if she could do that, then why did Jean leave the plane?!

Storms powerful but not that powerful to stop an entire dam of water from killing everyone. Well atleast she wasnt that powerful in X2. X3 mightve been a different story...

[Iceman]

'Cause Jean likes to die. A lot. :p

She's always asking new guys to "kill" her ;)

[Slykal]

More pics:

http://www.strangereaction.com/imagehost/albums/userpics/10180/Storm11.JPG
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http://www.strangereaction.com/imagehost/albums/userpics/10180/Storm16.JPG

Unfortunately the Ororo/Logan scene was deleled from the HD trailer :(

[JustABill]

Wonder why? Makes me think that Mystique/Cyclops are red herrings and Xavier really kicks the bucket.

[Lil_Flip246]

I can't wait to see Storm's powers in the extreme!!

[Slim_X]

Unfortunately the Ororo/Logan scene was deleled from the HD trailer
No it wasn't, it's still there :confused:

[WorthyStevens]

Wonder why? Makes me think that Mystique/Cyclops are red herrings and Xavier really kicks the bucket.

God I hope your right (about Cyclops' rumors being a red herring)

[Lightning Strykez!]

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/5861/storm20xm.jpg

I'm calling this now: This scene is not finished yet--I think a HUGE lightning bolt is going to come from her fingertips here, forward and out towards her enemies. Because the lightning bolts striking down from the upper right corner are not really striking any one target.

[Lightning Strykez!]

No it wasn't, it's still there :confused:


Yeah, I'm seeing it just fine.:confused:

[Mr. Socko]

In other words, She is a sith.

[ts16]

Are you watching it in HD or normal quality...

[Slim_X]

Hey fellow Storm lovers... if anyone has a version of the trailer that can play with Windows Media, please send it to me :(

[tonytr1687]

I've got a question about the tidal wave scene. What gives? Storm cant control water she can just control water that comes from the weather. It looks like the water is coming from some giant tank so she wouldnt be able to do something like that.

[WorthyStevens]

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/5861/storm20xm.jpg

God, that picture gets me hot.

Did I just say that out loud? :O

:p

[xstormfan]

No it wasn't, it's still there :confused:


i cant see the HD trailer but i thought a lot of people said it was replaced with the scene of wolverine sliding down a wall with his claws????

[xstormfan]

I've got a question about the tidal wave scene. What gives? Storm cant control water she can just control water that comes from the weather. It looks like the water is coming from some giant tank so she wouldnt be able to do something like that.

but she can control wind which can control water

[Mr. Socko]

Hey fellow Storm lovers... if anyone has a version of the trailer that can play with Windows Media, please send it to me :(

http://rapidshare.de/files/14886690/...id-umd.avi.htm (http://rapidshare.de/files/14886690/xmen.the.last.stand.trailer.hdtv.xvid-umd.avi.htm)

[Slim_X]

http://rapidshare.de/files/14886690/...id-umd.avi.htm (http://rapidshare.de/files/14886690/xmen.the.last.stand.trailer.hdtv.xvid-umd.avi.htm)
Rapidshare doesn't work on my computer for some reason. Could anyone upload that file on yousendit?

[Lightning Strykez!]

I've got a question about the tidal wave scene. What gives? Storm cant control water she can just control water that comes from the weather. It looks like the water is coming from some giant tank so she wouldnt be able to do something like that.


Storm can manipulate the natural elements of the earth. Water is an natural element. Considering that she is tied directly to the earth's gravitational forces, she can defy it, and easily cause that water to rise in a number of ways.

For example, she could've caused a powerful wind funnel to dive down like a shovel and literally scoop that water up and outward. Tornadoes (known as waterspouts) have been known to form over bodies of water. So all she would have to do is create a micro-tornado of centrifugal force, focus its axis, hit the water at a certain point and cause it leap upwards. And then with her walls of wind those waters could be easily dispersed outward. Think The Ten Commandments Red Sea SFX, but cleaner.



God, I'm such a nerd. :o

[the a1ant]

^Aren't we all? ;) :p

[Lightning Strykez!]

^Aren't we all? ;) :p

Indeed. And proud of it. :p

[LittleMissVixen]

*sigh*.....Squaders....

[Lightning Strykez!]

Squaders dabble in arts that some might consider...unnatural.

[Exile]

More pics:

http://www.strangereaction.com/imagehost/albums/userpics/10180/Storm11.JPG
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http://www.strangereaction.com/imagehost/albums/userpics/10180/Storm16.JPG

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Damn, why couldn't Storm have had that kickass hairdo for X-men 1 and 2? It actually looks real.

[xstormfan]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/xstormfan/Storm12.jpg


this was probably readily apparent to everyone else, but i just noticed that Storm (especially in this pic with the choppy hair and white eyes), really looks like a witch..... part wicked witch, part African voodoo priestess..but in a good way she still looks sexy...but a little bit creepy


P.S i just watched the complete video of Halle's Hasting Pudding roast..she was hilarious http://www.hallemariaberry.net/openingpage.html

[Lightning Strykez!]

this was probably readily apparent to everyone else, but i just noticed that Storm (especially in this pic with the choppy hair and white eyes), really looks like a witch..... part wicked witch, part African voodoo priestess..but in a good way she still looks sexy...but a little bit creepy





She really does. I mentioned that she looked like a real witch when the stills from the new Empire mag arrived. In addition to the choppy graying locks, they've also thickened her eye brows, and given her less sexually-suggestive threads to wear. From what I can tell so far, the sexpot is gone. Now she's going into this otherworldly look.

My parents were over when the trailer came on Monday night, and my Mom was like "That doesn't look like Halle Berry at all! She looks scary. Is this a horror movie?"

I laughed. :p

[Storm22]

The Storm/Logan scene has been removed from the HD trailer guys (the 480 one anyway), it's been replaced with the Wolverine sliding down the wall with his claws out. Matt and Ted contacted Fox about it and Fox replied saying it was an unfinished FX shot or something. I think it was pulled because it was a spoiler and I agree, I think there's a strong possibility Cyclops is a red herring!

[Kazaire]

For example, she could've caused a powerful wind funnel to dive down like a shovel and literally scoop that water up and outward. Tornadoes (known as waterspouts) have been known to form over bodies of water. So all she would have to do is create a micro-tornado of centrifugal force, focus its axis, hit the water at a certain point and cause it leap upwards. And then with her walls of wind those waters could be easily dispersed outward. Think The Ten Commandments Red Sea SFX, but cleaner.
Wow, I understood that. Either I'm more nerdier than I thought, or LS is a very good teacher! :D (Or both)

[Electrix]

More pics:

http://www.strangereaction.com/imagehost/albums/userpics/10180/Storm11.JPG


Do I see blue eyes?

[Kazaire]

Wow, she does have bluish eyes (I like the ava electrix)

[RockStarDude]

It's nice to see Storm getting some respect this time around! She's come such a long way from that cute little cameo in X-Men 1. :-P

[Lightning Strykez!]

In the promo materials her eyes are decidedly gray. But in the footage so far they look mixed between dark brown (almost black) and grayish blue.

I know that FOX hired a company specifically to doctor up eyes throughout the film, so we'll see.

[Electrix]

Halle Berry's character in 'Perfect Stranger' is 'Ro'.

:D

[Lightning Strykez!]

Halle Berry's character in 'Perfect Stranger' is 'Ro'.

:D


Are you serious?

[Lightning Strykez!]

http://www.strangereaction.com/imagehost/albums/userpics/10180/Storm16.JPG

Is it just me, or does Storm's left hand look twisted in an unnatural formation?
What's up with the thumb?:eek:

[Storm22]

One thing about this shot - why isn't her cape blowing/flapping?? That's how she flies isn't it-riding on wind currents? When she hovered up the elevator shaft in X1 her cape was blowing.

[Jan Irisi]

http://www.strangereaction.com/imagehost/albums/userpics/10180/Storm16.JPG

Is it just me, or does Storm's left hand look twisted in an unnatural formation?
What's up with the thumb?:eek:


Not really. At first glance it looks odd, but upon further study, it looks like she is holding it palm up. It is just the angle the photo is taken that makes it look really odd.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Not really. At first glance it looks odd, but upon further study, it looks like she is holding it palm up. It is just the angle the photo is taken that makes it look really odd.


Oh I see now...it's so dark it's hard to make it out.


One thing about this shot - why isn't her cape blowing/flapping?? That's how she flies isn't it-riding on wind currents? When she hovered up the elevator shaft in X1 her cape was blowing.

That concerns me too. Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. Her hair wasn't blowing around when she rose up in that suburban neighborhood either. Soooooooo....how exactly is she flying in this film? Flight it not a psionic biproduct of Storm's mutation. She rides the air currents.

[Storm22]

That concerns me too. Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. Her hair wasn't blowing around when she rose up in that suburban neighborhood either. Soooooooo....how exactly is she flying in this film? Flight it not a psionic biproduct of Storm's mutation. She rides the air currents.

Yeah. I suppose it's nothing major, I would like to at least hear the wind currents as she flies though!

[Lightning Strykez!]

Yeah. I suppose it's nothing major, I would like to at least hear the wind currents as she flies though!


Actually the cape bows forward in the same direction as the water. But the clip is so quick you might miss it.

But yeah, it's major to me. She's not called "The Beautiful Windrider" for nothing. :o

[Storm22]

Could they make the cape flap and her hair move in post production? Would they bother or even notice? Here's hoping anyway!

[Jan Irisi]

Could they make the cape flap and her hair move in post production? Would they bother or even notice? Here's hoping anyway!

In my minds eye I see somebody from production taking notes right now. *must make cape and hair flow in wind*

[Lightning Strykez!]

In my minds eye I see somebody from production taking notes right now. *must make cape and hair flow in wind*


Yeah but it's too late for that now. Principal has already wrapped. It is what it is at this point.

[Avalanche]

Are we sure she's supposed to be levitating at that point anyway? Is it not possible she's just stood on some kind of platform?

[Lightning Strykez!]

Are we sure she's supposed to be levitating at that point anyway? Is it not possible she's just stood on some kind of platform?


It looked like she was rising to me. Simon Kinberg said that Hugh and Halle did more wirework than the rest of the cast, so I'd think they are making her levitate more than just standing.

[Storm22]

Well I just asked Kinberg about this so we'll see what he says. As I say, It's nothing major, I'm just a real sucker for continuity. Maybe Storm has just gotten much better at controlling the air currents that it's barely noticeable now but I would, as I said, still like to hear the wind as she flies - I'm sure they haven't forgotten that. Magneto has his sound effect for flying and I'm sure Phoenix will have hers(provided she flies, fingers crossed!!).

[Storm22]

Are we sure she's supposed to be levitating at that point anyway? Is it not possible she's just stood on some kind of platform?

Maybe she levitated up to a platform and then focussed on summoning the water, it's possible!

[Lightning Strykez!]

This is the only "realistic" reason her cape and hair is not moving--and I've mentioned this before in this thread:

The eye of a hurricane and the eye of a tornado share one thing in common,
that being the air circulating around them moves in a counterclockwise direction. Hurricanes are much bigger than tornadoes, and their "eye" or center is much larger also. The eye of a hurricane can be several miles across, even as much as 50 or more miles in diameter, while the eye of a tornado may be only a few feet or yards in diameter. Winds in the eye of a hurricane are light and variable, becoming almost calm as you approach the center of the eye. The center of a tornado is very chaotic, and not well-defined. Theoretically, the windspeeds at the center of the tornado approach zero also,but the area is so small and irregular that it is difficult to observe.



The tornado's high-speed winds rotate about a small, relatively calm center, and suck up dust and debris.
www.wunderground.com/tornadoFAQ.asp - 47k - 6 Mar 2006

So if she's indeed creating a micro-tornado or some sort of whirlwind, the spiraling winds emanating from her would hurl objects and people, but at its center, she would be barely moving.

[Storm22]

Good point LS! Could explain it.

[StormCrazy]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/xstormfan/Storm12.jpg




We finally have Storm.:up:

[Avalanche]

It looked like she was rising to me. Simon Kinberg said that Hugh and Halle did more wirework than the rest of the cast, so I'd think they are making her levitate more than just standing.
I looked at the scene again, and it looks more to me like the camera is moving, and Storm is stationary, rather than Storm levitating up and the camera being stationary.

[Lightning Strykez!]

I looked at the scene again, and it looks more to me like the camera is moving, and Storm is stationary, rather than Storm levitating up and the camera being stationary.

Or she could be stationary in her levitation. :p

[Avalanche]

Or she could be stationary in her levitation. :p
There's always that. :p After pulling the few frames backward and forward trying to figure out if she is or isn't, I've gotten bored an decided I'll wait until I see the film, lol.

[X-Maniac]

One thing about this shot - why isn't her cape blowing/flapping?? That's how she flies isn't it-riding on wind currents? When she hovered up the elevator shaft in X1 her cape was blowing.

But isn't the wind blowing from behind in that shot, in order to make the water surge forward?.. it looks like her cape is being pushed forwards and against her back by the wind coming from behind her...

[Storm22]

But isn't the wind blowing from behind in that shot, in order to make the water surge forward?.. it looks like her cape is being pushed forwards and against her back by the wind coming from behind her...

Yeah but in order for her to be levitating shouldn't the wind be blowing up from underneath her?

[X-Maniac]

Yeah but in order for her to be levitating shouldn't the wind be blowing up from underneath her?

She uses micro-winds and pressure adjustments for extreme control...in other words, it's down to small adjustments in air pressure to create lift rather than generating enough wind to carry a human being (which would be an awful lot). Remember how she 'glided silently' around the Hellfire Club mansion in the comicbook Phoenix saga?

[Storm22]

True, I'm just thinking though, with the amount of wind required to manipulate that water, her cape should be blowing a bit more against her back.

[Lightning Strykez!]

The question is how will they explain it? Six years ago she "couldn't control it like that". Now she can glide on micro-winds?

I hope they explain the evolution.

[weatherwitch]

She uses micro-winds and pressure adjustments for extreme control...in other words, it's down to small adjustments in air pressure to create lift rather than generating enough wind to carry a human being (which would be an awful lot). Remember how she 'glided silently' around the Hellfire Club mansion in the comicbook Phoenix saga?

Exactly. Her control is legendary ;). I f 'Ro doesn't want a flapping cape, then we don't get a flapping cape.

[weatherwitch]

The question is how will they explain it? Six years ago she "couldn't control it like that". Now she can glide on micro-winds?

I hope they explain the evolution.

And you need to quit nitpicking. :p

Six years agos she wasn't Storm period. I really don't think the evolution of her wind control should be the focus of the character, do you?

[Hypestyle]

I wonder will she get to lead the team in the film.. and will she get to say "goddess!!"

[philbo]

I'm still majorly intrigued by the balcony scene.......if u watch the trailer, what Xavier is actually saying is a sound bridge from another scene, which means something else is happening on the balcony! Somethings gotta be makin her screw up the weather?!

I'm so xcited for the Storm action in this film on the basis that she features A LOT........In the teaser we saw the action in the suburbs, that had us all wetting our pants over the storm-tornado-punch, and the scenes from the Danger Room. Now, we've got a greater glimpse of the balcony scene, the return to Alkali Lake, and, ofcourse, the final showdown, where, we hope, she is gonna let loose some serious hell!

The Logan/Ororo/Xaviers empty chair scene; why in my head, do i think thats happening just after the spinning storm, in the suburbs?

[X-Maniac]

The question is how will they explain it? Six years ago she "couldn't control it like that". Now she can glide on micro-winds?

I hope they explain the evolution.

Indeed, and someone asked Simon Kinberg on X-verse about Storm's expanded power (and Iceman's). He said that intensive Danger Room training had obviously enhanced the control and scope of the X-Men's powers.

As for the 'can't control it like that', yes it is irritating, but for my own sanity I prefer to believe that she meant she could not control air pressures and micro-winds around SOMEONE ELSE and FROM A DISTANCE! She can control it for herself because she is right in the situation and can make fine adjustments, but to make those calculations around Wolverine from a distance without being directly immersed in the element she is controlling must be harder. It's like being asked to stand inside your house and, while indoors, to drive your car down the street outside in a straight line! You can't do it, you need to be in the car!

(The true answer is of course that it was a plot device to put Wolverine at the heart of the drama and give everyone else something to do - Storm creating the wind, Jean steadying him, Cyclops on stand-by with his blasts. And also that Bryan kept 'grounding' her powers too much.)

[Lightning Strykez!]

And you need to quit nitpicking. :p

Six years agos she wasn't Storm period. I really don't think the evolution of her wind control should be the focus of the character, do you?

I think it can be addressed in a way that won't have audiences lost, yes. It's obvious that everyone's powers is being upgraded---look at Bobby. He's gone from freezing coffee mugs to whole ponds.


And did you call me a nitpicker?:o

[miketx]

so do yall think her flying will look like the flying from the video game x men legends with the lil tornados underneath her?

[Lightning Strykez!]

so do yall think her flying will look like the flying from the video game x men legends with the lil tornados underneath her?

I don't think she'll fly like she does in the comics or animated series, no. I think she'll spin from place to place. I hope I'm wrong though. The last flying chick on the silver screen was 1987's Supergirl I think.

[Avalanche]

I think ultimately Bryan attempted to ground the powers too much. Storm had barely any control to begin with. Jean was pathetically weak. It's only really Magneto who seems to have been able to harness his powers from day one. I'm happy to accept that the difference in power levels is due to the difference in directors, much in the same way as I was happy to accept the different actor for Pyro in X2 etc.

[xwolverine2]

well......i think EVERYONE got more powerful as the movies went by.

[X-Maniac]

It's a wonder we didn't see Magneto struggling to lift a paperclip in X1!:hyper:

[Lightning Strykez!]

I think ultimately Bryan attempted to ground the powers too much. Storm had barely any control to begin with. Jean was pathetically weak. It's only really Magneto who seems to have been able to harness his powers from day one. I'm happy to accept that the difference in power levels is due to the difference in directors, much in the same way as I was happy to accept the different actor for Pyro in X2 etc.


Agreed.

And I honestly believe that Bryan greatly undestimated Storm's importance to X-Men fans and to the overall mythos. The outcry has been so tremendous since day one in behalf of this character. I don't think he realized just how highly she ranked with the fanbase until after the fact. I feel that if he did, we would've seen greater improvements before now. In a way, it annoys me that it's taken a complete change in direction and writing to make better usage of her screentime and dialogue...and I shudder at what Bryan's plans would've been for Storm if he were doing X3.

I know we only have stills and two trailers to represent X3--and one can't fairly judge the film by them completely. But so far, Halle is starting to get lost in this character and it feels strange to see Storm for once.

[Celestio]

And I honestly believe that Bryan greatly undestimated Storm's importance to X-Men fans and to the overall mythos. The outcry has been so tremendous since day one in behalf of this character. I don't think he realized just how highly she ranked with the fanbase until after the fact. I feel that if he did, we would've seen greater improvements before now. In a way, it annoys me that it's taken a complete change in direction and writing to make better usage of her screentime and dialogue...and I shudder at what Bryan's plans would've been for Storm if he were doing X3.

I don't think Halle would have been back, maybe Storm as well. He may have just got rid of the character completely. :o

[Storm22]

Was't there talk of Singer only having Storm as a cameo in his X3, or maybe not return at all?!

[X-Maniac]

Yes, indeed, that was what was said.

[Avalanche]

AgreedI know we only have stills and two trailers to represent X3--and one can't fairly judge the film by them completely. But so far, Halle is starting to get lost in this character and it feels strange to see Storm for once.
Those few stills and trailer sequences have capture the essence of Storm better than the first two movies put together. It's a shame, as you say, it's taken a complete change in direction to bring at the Storm that the fans instantly recognise.

I too shudder to think what Storm we would be getting with Bryan still at the helm. That's not to say I didn't like the first films. I did, but you can be almost certain we'd be getting another half-baked version of Storm were X3 not in the hands of others.

[CeeJay]

The question is how will they explain it? Six years ago she "couldn't control it like that". Now she can glide on micro-winds?

I hope they explain the evolution.

I don't see what the big fuss about this is at all aye. It's pretty simple.

No, we didn't see her do a lot of flying in the first two films, but we actually *did* see some. Like her levitating up the elevator etc. That's proof of that ability right there.

When she said, "I can't control it like that", she didn't say, "I can't fly". She said it in *direct* response to levitating/wind-lifting somebody *else*.

That's why I don't get why people are so worried about her "sudden" evolution being explained. It's not sudden. She could do that from the first movie, as clearly proven.

There just hasn't been a lot of focus on her powers in that way, that's all.

[ts16]

I just always assumed that Storm's powers have naturally evolved and gotten more powerful from movie to movie. In X1 she was more timid, still getting a feel for what she can do. In X2 she's more aware of herself and her powers, and in X3 she's finally gotten to the point where she can truely kick some ass :D

[Xfanfan]

Was't there talk of Singer only having Storm as a cameo in his X3, or maybe not return at all?!

Singer did not want Storm from the beginning, so rest assured he would have given her a cameo and once Halle saw that he would have used it as an excuse to write her off since from the beginning they said they weren't recasting the main characters. He knew that, and he knew what Halle would have said, so he had it all planned out. I am so glad he is gone now, never to return.

PS To those that bring up the argument that Storm was improved in X2, that was because Halle had to fight for that improvement. If she had said nothing she would not have done half the things she did in X2.

Xfanfan

[littyx]

I don't think she'll fly like she does in the comics or animated series, no. I think she'll spin from place to place. I hope I'm wrong though. The last flying chick on the silver screen was 1987's Supergirl I think.
Ok, ok...ok. I've been thinking about this question for a few days now. I honestly hope she does not "spin from place to place". Thats ridiculous. She *CAN* fly. We've seen her levitate, I'm just wondering if there going to actually have her glide like she should.

[Electrix]

Are you serious?

Check IMDB

[CeeJay]

Ok, ok...ok. I've been thinking about this question for a few days now. I honestly hope she does not "spin from place to place". Thats ridiculous. She *CAN* fly. We've seen her levitate, I'm just wondering if there going to actually have her glide like she should.

Didn't you read the thread that I think Lightning Strikez posted about micro-winds and how silent and still the winds inside a tornado can be? Just because she's using air pressure and winds, people think that the visual equivalent of that would be her looking like she's standing in front of a giant aeroplane propeller or something.

That's not even the case if you do your research on this. She could manipulate the air pressure and winds around her to a point where she (because she's in the centre of the manipulation) is barely moving (so we don't need to see her hair look like she's using a jumbo hairdryer, flying everywhere, or her face contorting with the wind pressure).

Go and find that post and you'll see what I mean, but man, do your research before complaining about everything aye!

[Storm22]

I just always assumed that Storm's powers have naturally evolved and gotten more powerful from movie to movie. In X1 she was more timid, still getting a feel for what she can do. In X2 she's more aware of herself and her powers, and in X3 she's finally gotten to the point where she can truely kick some ass :D

Agreed!

[weatherwitch]

I think it can be addressed in a way that won't have audiences lost, yes. It's obvious that everyone's powers is being upgraded---look at Bobby. He's gone from freezing coffee mugs to whole ponds.


And did you call me a nitpicker?:o

Yes, I agree that it is evident that everyone's powers have improved/ strengthened since the first two movies, however, I don't agree that this improvement or growth, if you will, needs to be specifically addressed. I think the audience in general is smart enough to figure out (all on their own without an aside explaining) that training, age and practice have played a part in this development.

I call you many things, LS. Not all of them mentionable. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/weatherwitch1/blowkiss.gif

[CeeJay]

Totally! It's a no-brainer, obvious thing.

You get better at anything - if you work on it - as you go.

[xstormfan]

she doesnt just spin place to place and levitate, in the announcement teaser we see her flying a bit when she lands in the danger room

and storm doesnt fly completly vertical in a superman style in the comics anyway, she's usually more tilted

[Lightning Strykez!]

I call you many things, LS. Not all of them mentionable. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/weatherwitch1/blowkiss.gif


:eek: That's hot. :up:

[littyx]

Didn't you read the thread that I think Lightning Strikez posted about micro-winds and how silent and still the winds inside a tornado can be? Just because she's using air pressure and winds, people think that the visual equivalent of that would be her looking like she's standing in front of a giant aeroplane propeller or something.

That's not even the case if you do your research on this. She could manipulate the air pressure and winds around her to a point where she (because she's in the centre of the manipulation) is barely moving (so we don't need to see her hair look like she's using a jumbo hairdryer, flying everywhere, or her face contorting with the wind pressure).

Go and find that post and you'll see what I mean, but man, do your research before complaining about everything aye!
1st of all...please don't tell me to go find things and research topics on these boards, I know what people post on these boards, I've followed there stuff for years. Secondly, how was I "complaining about everything"?! I'm one of the most optomistic people when it comes to X-films on these boards. I was directly refering to what Strikez said about Storm spinning from place to place. Take your own advice, do some research, and stop complaining about peoples voiced concerns.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Didn't you read the thread that I think Lightning Strikez posted about micro-winds and how silent and still the winds inside a tornado can be? Just because she's using air pressure and winds, people think that the visual equivalent of that would be her looking like she's standing in front of a giant aeroplane propeller or something.

That's not even the case if you do your research on this. She could manipulate the air pressure and winds around her to a point where she (because she's in the centre of the manipulation) is barely moving (so we don't need to see her hair look like she's using a jumbo hairdryer, flying everywhere, or her face contorting with the wind pressure).

Go and find that post and you'll see what I mean, but man, do your research before complaining about everything aye!


I think you're misunderstanding Litty's post. He wasn't complaining.

[littyx]

Thank you Strikez. Now back on topic, do you think she'll get to glide around, like say, in a Supergirl style of flight?

[Storm22]

I don't think so, I think it'll be either levitating up and down, spinning or short jumpy flight - of course I'm only basing this on what I've seen! I'd say she'll be mostly vertical when she flies, not flat/horizontal like Superman/girl. I wonder will anyone actually fly like Superman in the movie(ie. horizontal position).

[The Storm]

So is Storm gonna own this film or what?!

[Lightning Strykez!]

Thank you Strikez. Now back on topic, do you think she'll get to glide around, like say, in a Supergirl style of flight?

I hope so. In the announcement trailer she was seen rising up once, but every other time she was spinning like a cyclone.

[Lightning Strykez!]

So is Storm gonna own this film or what?!

Hell yes. LOL

And she's going to get the most costume changes it seems too. :p

[littyx]

Heres a few images I found of Storm flying horizontally since some think she usually doesnt. Also she flew horizontally across your screen everytime X-Men TAS started.
http://www.x-mencharacters.com/images/Stormflying.jpg
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/images/7/78/Storm_008.jpg

[LittleMissVixen]

Can you guys see that image? Its a red X for me.

http://www.x-mencharacters.com/images/Stormflying.jpg

I spy with my eye...Storm flying ;)

[FRUITY]

I'm not to fond of Storm flying like in the first pic.

[Storm22]

I was talking more bout the movie Storm when I was saying she wouldn't fly horizontally. Just thinkin now, one person who will fly horizontally is Angel, yay!

[Lightning Strykez!]

I was talking more bout the movie Storm when I was saying she wouldn't fly horizontally. Just thinkin now, one person who will fly horizontally is Angel, yay!


Storm22 your avvy is HOT!!! :eek:

[Storm22]

Isn't it sexified?! I love it!!! Major thanks to fruity!! I'm proud to show it off/write posts now!

[Lightning Strykez!]

Isn't it sexified?! I love it!!! Major thanks to fruity!! I'm proud to show it off/write posts now!


Waitaminute. :mad:

Are you down with that faction called X-Treme Storm Force Five--the cult that LittleMissVixen is heading up? :o














:p

[Storm22]

I've been waiting to get enough posts here and become more recognised. Since I've passed the 800 mark, I think it's time!! How do I join Storm Squad??

[WorthyStevens]

Waitaminute. :mad:

Are you down with that faction called X-Treme Storm Force Five--the cult that LittleMissVixen is heading up? :o














:p

Geez, what is it with you Storm fans and your cults? ;)


:p

[Lightning Strykez!]

Geez, what is it with you Storm fans and your cults? ;)


:p

The Storm Squad is not a cult--we are an organization, with almost 2,000 members worldwide and growing, so....

"If you're with us then be with us." :cool:

[FRUITY]

Geez, what is it with you Storm fans and your cults? ;)


:p

Do you know what happens to WorthySteven when struck by lightning? http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f351/fruityemen/Gif/_lightning__by_ChaosEmeraldHunter.gif

[PoSeiDon]

hello all! LS ur a mod now?? lol

i have been in vegas! i just watched the new trailer at apple! OMG halle berry in that one show toward the end when she shoots lightening..if u pause it just right with her eyes white and the look, SHE LOOKS THE PART!
but...meannnnnnn as hell lol.!!

carry on

[Sketchee]

I think ultimately Bryan attempted to ground the powers too much. Storm had barely any control to begin with. Jean was pathetically weak. It's only really Magneto who seems to have been able to harness his powers from day one. I'm happy to accept that the difference in power levels is due to the difference in directors, much in the same way as I was happy to accept the different actor for Pyro in X2 etc. I think it was the smart thing to do. If they all started out superpowerful (and the DIDN'T in the comics) then they wouldn't have anywhere to go. It'd be a lot harder for the movies to top each other if they were all superman in the first one. If all of the characters had the exact same powers in each movie, it'd be pretty boring. Jean and Storm were definitely both more powerful in X2 than in X1. Jean got her storyline to grow throughout that movie and now it's Storm's turn. I'm sure budget was a concern too, considering the first X-Men had an ultra low budget for this kind of movie.

[WorthyStevens]

Do you know what happens to WorthySteven when struck by lightning? http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f351/fruityemen/Gif/_lightning__by_ChaosEmeraldHunter.gif




The same thing that happens to everything else...?

:p

[Lightning Strykez!]

hello all! LS ur a mod now?? lol

i have been in vegas! i just watched the new trailer at apple! OMG halle berry in that one show toward the end when she shoots lightening..if u pause it just right with her eyes white and the look, SHE LOOKS THE PART!
but...meannnnnnn as hell lol.!!

carry on

Hey PoSeiDon...welcome back. And yes, she does look fierce indeed.

[LittleMissVixen]

The Storm Squad is not a cult--we are an organization, with almost 2,000 members worldwide and growing, so....

"If you're with us then be with us." :cool:

*gag*


...squaders....you'll are the "Power Pack" of the Storm Teams ;)

[Lightning Strykez!]

*gag*


...squaders....you'll are the "Power Pack" of the Storm Teams ;)


Actually, Power Pack only had 5 members. So that analogy fits better for X-Treme Storm Force Five. :o








:D

[LittleMissVixen]

Actually, Power Pack only had 5 members. So that analogy fits better for X-Treme Storm Force Five. :o








:D


ohhhhh....foiled again!!! ;)

[Lightning Strykez!]

ohhhhh....foiled again!!! ;)


Muwahahahaha!

*snickers*

[X-Maniac]

I think it was the smart thing to do. If they all started out superpowerful (and the DIDN'T in the comics) then they wouldn't have anywhere to go. It'd be a lot harder for the movies to top each other if they were all superman in the first one. If all of the characters had the exact same powers in each movie, it'd be pretty boring. Jean and Storm were definitely both more powerful in X2 than in X1. Jean got her storyline to grow throughout that movie and now it's Storm's turn. I'm sure budget was a concern too, considering the first X-Men had an ultra low budget for this kind of movie.

That's not entirely true. Storm was very powerful from the beginning in the comics, for instance.

But I get what you are saying; that the characters are themselves evolving.

I think where the characters lacked in the first movies was in definition - making some of the characters more driven, with reasons to be there, a background that shaped them in some way and influenced their choices. Storm is one of those who suffered.

[gap5ewl]

Thank you Strikez. Now back on topic, do you think she'll get to glide around, like say, in a Supergirl style of flight?
im pretty sure she will be horizontally flying, remember one set report said a car is thrown in the air and storm flies right pass it?

[Storm22]

I'd like to see her horizontally flying, it'd make it more believeable and less obvious she's on wires.

[ts16]

Storm22 Your avvy is awesome. I can't stop looking at it lol.

[Storm22]

Cheerso ts16! I've been on the look for a new one for a while now. Once again, all credit goes to fruity!!

[Xfanfan]

Cheerso ts16! I've been on the look for a new one for a while now. Once again, all credit goes to fruity!!

Fruity did a wonderful job on your avatar congrats to him.

Xfanfan

[Lightning Strykez!]

It really is awesome. I...want it. :o

[Storm22]

Lovin your one to LS! Emotional+Badass Storm in one!

[xwolverine2]

^^
LOVE your avy!....especially how its zoomed into everything!!

[xstormfan]

man......the guys over at comics.ign are some real Halle' Haters...i usually like their reviews and stuff but not after reading their thoughts about the new xmen trailer.....

[ts16]

what did they say? I thought for sure she would have gained some respect with the new trailer...

[xstormfan]

what did they say? I thought for sure she would have gained some respect with the new trailer...


Aim Bang #4: Back on the Bus
X3 looks promising, Watchmen seems overrated and Rob Liefeld becomes an admired artist.
by The Aim Bang Gang (http://comics.ign.com/email.html)

March 8, 2006 - Guess who's back? That's right, the AIM Bang Gang has returned after a month's hiatus. If you've never checked out AIM BangTM before, here's how it works. Each week we throw your faithful Editor-in-Chief, Hilary Goldstein, in with a bunch of comics fanatics (Eric, Rich, Jesse and guest idiot Brian AKA Riskbreaker) and discuss the industry. What follows is an absolute cluster-f--- of conversation. Raw, sparsely edited and with terrible grammar, this is an IM chat in as pure a form as is fit to post.
This week we discussed, at length, the new X3 trailer. Does it get us yoked for movie (http://comics.ign.com/articles/694/694495p1.html#) or has it inspired even greater spite? Then things totally derailed and we argued over whether or not Watchmen is overrated. Enjoy.
X3 Trailer
Hil: The new X3 Trailer. What are your impressions? Does it make you feel better or worse about the movie?
Jesse: It raised my expectations somewhat
Eric: Every piece of actual, non rumor site stuff we have gotten makes me feel better about it.
Rich: I see interesting elements in the trailer, but I don't trust trailers.
Jesse: It certainly looks to be on a bigger scale than the first two
Hil: It would have to be, since it has 185 characters in it
Brian: My opinion hasn't really changed since the last trailer, but I'm feeling a lot better about Juggernaut now.
Rich: Juggernaut did look pretty nice overall.
Brian: The costume didn't quite look right, but I'm fine now that I've seen him running through walls.
Eric: The first one is almost an art film by comparison,
Rich: I'm just worried that it's trying a little too hard to be "better."
Jesse: I think the movie has more mutants than are left in the entire comic (http://comics.ign.com/articles/694/694495p1.html#) universe
Rich: As if adding 500 mutants is somehow going to make things better.
Jesse: I still worry that the finished product will be rough around the edges
Rich: It seems like the plot is trying to do a little too much
Jesse: Every pic I see of Colossus looks horrendous
Brian: I really don't see why people are getting so hung up on the number of mutants. They've done a fine job juggling large casts so far, and it doesn't seem like most of the new additions will be anything more than hired muscle
Brian: Probably for some big battle...a "last stand" maybe

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/694/694495/aim-bang-4-back-on-the-bus-20060308113439043-000.jpg (http://media.comics.ign.com/articles/694/694495/img_3442252.html) Hil: I worry that Storm is a big part of the story. Better hair, but better lines? Eric: I suppose once I see what kind of Frankenstein plot they cobbled together from Dark Phoenix and Astonishing, it should be OK.
Hil: Halle's yet to actually play Storm. It's just Halle being a comic-book character. So now that she is front and center, is she going to take this s--- seriously?
Jesse: I don't think she knows how to take it seriously
Rich: No, Halle is going to be the same as before.
Hil: yeah, and that's my concern
Jesse: She couldn't handle Catwoman (http://comics.ign.com/articles/694/694495p1.html#) worth a damn
Rich: She views the movie as a comic, and that's the type of performance we'll get from her.
Eric: But how much of Catwoman was her fault, other than agreeing to do it? It is like blaming Clooney for Batman and Robin (http://comics.ign.com/articles/694/694495p1.html#). The material and direction was awful in that and Catwoman.
Rich: I blame her entirely.
Hil: Have you seen Catwoman?
Hil: She was awful.
Rich: I honestly don't think she's that good in anything.
Jesse: Oscar notwithstanding
Hil: She's only good in movies where she's having uncomfortable sex with Billy Bob Thorton
Rich: Could care less about her Oscar.
Brian: To be fair, Christopher Lee (http://comics.ign.com/articles/694/694495p1.html#) has been in some abysmal movies, but he always has the same great presence.
Brian: Talent can shine through anything.
Jesse: So you're saying Christopher Lee should be Storm?
Brian: Yes.
Jesse: Eh, could work
Hil: I think this movie will be surprisingly well received. Because everyone seems to think it will be horrendous. So even a mediocre showing will seem like epic filmmaking.

http://media.ign.com/ign/image/pixy.gifhttp://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/694/694495/aim-bang-4-back-on-the-bus-20060308113454369-000.jpg (http://media.comics.ign.com/articles/694/694495/img_3442255.html)http://media.ign.com/ign/image/pixy.gif Eric: The scope of the film will hide a lot of possible problems. Hil: I'd say heavy action will do that too.
Jesse: Even if it does smash expectations, it still has to deal with the Superman onslaught
Brian: I didn't think the first two were great to begin with, so I never understood where the high expectations for the third came from.
Hil: I liked the characterizations in X1 and I thought X2 had a strong plot and theme. I like X2 a lot. More than Spider-Man 2, to be honest.
Eric: I agree with that.
Rich: I'd go with Spidey 2 over X2, but that's because I thought the characters were stronger.
Brian: I thought they were completely average movies that happened to have some really cool scenes.
Rich: X2 had some stellar elements to it though.
Brian: I think the Spidey movies were average too.
Hil: Are there any superhero movies you thought were good?
Brian: I'm more into the Hulk.

[Lightning Strykez!]

man......the guys over at comics.ign are some real Halle' Haters...i usually like their reviews and stuff but not after reading their thoughts about the new xmen trailer.....


Yeah, they're still talking about Catwoman, like it just came out last Friday :rolleyes:

But I think it's interesting how one of the gentlemen actually raised some good points i.e. is it fair to hold her to that film's failure considering all the other major things wrong with it. He then compared it to unfairly blaming a good actor like George Clooney for Batman & Robin. And their response was "I blame her for the entire production." :o

But that's what narrowminded fanboys/critics do...they are unable to take into account more than one perspective or multiple factors.

So let 'em hate--their opinions don't impact Halle's $17 million salary anyway.

[ts16]

How do they expect her to be any more storm like :rolleyes: People are always going to find some reason to trash her :o

[JustABill]

Hateration. Did they see the same damn trailer as I DID? Halle came of in such a powerful fierce demeanor. She was frickin Storm.

[Specter313]

Yeah, I put that up in the main trailer thread awhile ago. They need to just stick with comics, because they know nothing about how the movies work.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Hateration. Did they see the same damn trailer as I DID? Halle came of in such a powerful fierce demeanor. She was frickin Storm.


Like I said, let 'em hate; it's all good. LOL :p Why?

Because the only reason Halle gets that kind of focus is because she is literally a groundbreaking star now. Some, like those cats, try to downplay her success or deflect credit, but it doesn't change the fact that the woman is taking cinematic risks, is very decorated and is in high demand. The Oscar win makes her even more of a target. Plus there are other factors to consider too. I read some rants and I wonder, "is this person hating out of jealousy or something?"

Plus, it sounds like they weren't impressed with the X-Men films to begin with, so what relevance does their opinion have to an X-Man fan like me anyway?

[xwolverine2]

Hateration. Did they see the same damn trailer as I DID? Halle came of in such a powerful fierce demeanor. She was frickin Storm.
i think that SAME thing sometimes..........

its mindblowing how someone could look at the trailer with their eyes half closed and murmur "LAAAAAAAME" before the trailer even gets half way:confused:

[Lightning Strykez!]

Celestio did this....

http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/1384/stormmanipcopy1wb.jpg

Tight, isn't it? :up:

[JustABill]

I liked that qoute. It's clear they are talking about the changes happening around them and it's a metaphor to it.

[WorthyStevens]

I liked that qoute. It's clear they are talking about the changes happening around them and it's a metaphor to it.

It really feels like a line taken straight from the comics. :up:

[LEX]

Hateration. Did they see the same damn trailer as I DID? Halle came of in such a powerful fierce demeanor. She was frickin Storm.
I'll drink to that. She totally blew me away in the trailer. Halle is Storm alright. She has definitely exceeded my expectations. I'm glad that she stood up for her character and I'm so tired of people that are saying Halle only wants more screentimes. Her character seems to be more "mattered" and way more Storm-like than in the first two movies. :up:

[Iceman]

I'll drink to that. She totally blew me away in the trailer. Halle is Storm alright. She has definitely exceeded my expectations. I'm glad that she stood up for her character and I'm so tired of people that are saying Halle only wants more screentimes. Her character seems to be more "mattered" and way more Storm-like than in the first two movies. :up:


There's a definite & positive difference in everything we're seeing / hearing about regarding Halle in X3.

[weatherwitch]

Halle haters are fickle little creatures that despite evidence contrary will continuously refuse to see anything other than their own foolish notions of what/who/how everything should be. I will be the first to admit I am a fan of Halle Berry, but I hated (and I mean hated) her portrayal of Storm in the first movie, so much so that I waited for the second movie to come out on DVD for rent rather than go to the theatre. However, after a while and some common sense thinking I came to realize that Storm was written, directed and acted. Three components that all needed to work together and Halle was not responsible for all three. So I watched the films again and realized that though Storm was nowhere to be seen, the acting wasn't terrible. There was terrible dialogue, terrible costume (yes wardrobe sucked) and for me, no real comic book feel to the films. There wasn't a single shot of any of the characters or scenes that felt like it was torn from a comic. Yes, I know Singer wanted to make the X-Men more grounded, and realistic, but for me that was the first mistake. the X-Men are larger than life, Icons of comicbookdom (is that a word) and should be portrayed as such. I think Halle is doing that in this third film. She was Storm. I felt the impact of this trailer in ways that the other two did nothing for me. Even so I do not expect the Halle-haters or even Storm haters to be silenced by this performace. Especially since I think jealousy fuels much of their fire. ;) Just my thoughts.

[Optic Rage]

Dont you think your being slightly biased?

What was the need for calling them ''fickle little creatures''?

It's their opinion, if they don't like halle then thats fair enough. Its not going to affect your enjoyment of the movie is it?

Since when did it mean if somebody dislikes someone it must be that they are jealous?

I don't like a few actors in Hollywood for a few reasons but that doesn't mean I'm jealous of them.

Let them hate halle, its going to blow up in their face's when she gets praised for her performance in x3[which i believe she will judging by the trailer]

[weatherwitch]

Dont you think your being slightly biased?

What was the need for calling them ''fickle little creatures''?

It's their opinion, if they don't like halle then thats fair enough. Its not going to affect your enjoyment of the movie is it?

Since when did it mean if somebody dislikes someone it must be that they are jealous?

I don't like a few actors in Hollywood for a few reasons but that doesn't mean I'm jealous of them.

Let them hate halle, its going to blow up in their face's when she gets praised for her performance in x3[which i believe she will judging by the trailer]

First off, I didn't say that people who didn't like Halle Berry were fickle. I said Halle-haters were. There's a difference. A BIG difference. Peruse the boards and you can pick them out. Trust me. And they are fickle and if you read their posts they are also mostly jealous.

Everyone is of course entitled to their own opinion, I just happened to post mine.

[Jan Irisi]

I have a feeling that only a handful of the "haturz" will actually give Halle credit if she does in fact knock this one out of the park. For the most rabid of them, their reaction will be inversely proportional to her performance. The better she does, the worse their reaction will be. It's just the nature of the beast.

Well, that's just the feeling I have.

[Iceman]

I have a feeling that only a handful of the "haturz" will actually give Halle credit if she does in fact knock this one out of the park. For the most rabid of them, their reaction will be inversely proportional to her performance. The better she does, the worse their reaction will be. It's just the nature of the beast.

Well, that's just the feeling I have.

Well that will prove that they haven't got the ability to form their own opinions objectively

[Optic Rage]

I know thats your opinion.

But what makes them ''halle haters''? The fact that they don't like her acting, or the fact that they thought she was terrible in Catwomen? or is it something else?

I just think its a tad futile and unnecessary working yourself up over somebody's opinion and calling them creatures or whatever.

When X3 is released you can have the last laugh.

[Thunderous]

Yes, I know Singer wanted to make the X-Men more grounded, and realistic, but for me that was the first mistake. the X-Men are larger than life, Icons of comicbookdom (is that a word) and should be portrayed as such.

THANK YOU!! I have been trying to explain this to people for the longest. While I think Singer did a good job with the films, he was way to confident in his realism style of directing to understand that these are COMIC BOOK FILMS, there's nothing REAL about them! I do think Singer is responsible for allowing the rebirth of comic book films to be taken seriously, however he sorely missed the mark by taking his realism approach too far.

Had he incorporated the right mixture of realism and action oriented scenes, the x-men series could've been the next stars wars phenomenon because the timing for the release of X1 was perfect to establish that and audiences were ready for "The next big thing" after The Matrix. Unfortuntaely, Sam Raimi learned from Brian's mistakes and incorporated a good mixture of realism and action and made the Spiderman series everything X-men should've been.

[weatherwitch]

I know thats your opinion.

But what makes them ''halle haters''? The fact that they don't like her acting, or the fact that they thought she was terrible in Catwomen? or is it something else?

I just think its a tad futile and unnecessary working yourself up over somebody's opinion and calling them creatures or whatever.

When X3 is released you can have the last laugh.

Again, read the threads and you can pick out for yourself what makes a hater a hater.

It is futile and unnecessary to get worked up over other people's opinions and I assure you, I am not in the least worked up. Calling them creatures? What would you have me call them?

crea·ture [krchər]
(plural crea·tures)
n
1. living being: any living person or animal
2. unpleasant living being: an unpleasant or frightening living thing
3. created thing: somebody or something that has been created
a creature of your imagination
4. type of person: somebody of a particular type
5. subservient person: somebody who is under the influence of somebody or something else

I'd say creature works just fine considering it's definition as any living person.

[Lightning Strykez!]

I know thats your opinion.

But what makes them ''halle haters''? The fact that they don't like her acting, or the fact that they thought she was terrible in Catwomen? or is it something else?

I just think its a tad futile and unnecessary working yourself up over somebody's opinion and calling them creatures or whatever.

When X3 is released you can have the last laugh.

I think of all the actors in this franchise, fans are hardest on Halle Berry. You may disagree with me, but I think she is treated differently than her castmates. Perhaps it's because she's a beautiful woman--we all know that women in Hollywood have it much harder than men. Perhaps it's because she's a black woman--we can't deny that bigots are among us. It could be a combo of factors.

Personally, I think it's because she has the distinction of being the first African American woman to win the Best Actress Oscar. That was groundbreaking history. But then she fumbled with Catwoman. The media blew that waaaaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion and still won't let it go. :rolleyes: Don't believe me? Look at the way her Oscar-Winning peers are treated when they make a flop. It's 100% different.

So I believe that sometimes people are unreasonably hateful of the actress. And as Weather Witch pointed out, people insist on being that way--even in the face of factual evidence. For example, the whole "Halle just wants more screentime" whine has been addressed and debunked by everyone on this project. Yet fanboys insist that they know "the real story.":o

But for all their vitriol, she's getting top billing in X3--so who cares.

[Optic Rage]

So your saying calling someone a creature is fine?

It's not, you used it in a derogatory manner. and you used it because you didn't like the way they talked about Halle.

And i personally don't see the point in reacting in an insulting manner to people who's opinion you don't like[which they are entitled to even if you think they are ''haters'']Doesn't that just make you as bad as them?

Please point out were i am wrong?

actually forget about it, we both like Storm and halle so there is no point in arguing about it...so lets just move on.

Lightning...

I agree Its ridiculous some of the stuff people say about her. And i agree with most of you reasons why they hate her...she is a scapegoat for the writers bad decision's imo.

But let them be ignorant[and we can point and laugh heh] they are only making themselves look bad.

Like i said when she gets praised for X3 the shoe will be on the other foot.

[FRUITY]

So your saying calling someone a creature is fine?

It's not, you used it in a derogatory manner. and you used it because you didn't like the way they talked about Halle.

And i personally don't see the point in reacting in an insulting manner to people who's opinion you don't like[which they are entitled too even if you think they are ''haters''].Doesn't that just make you as bad as them?

Please point out were i am wrong?

actually forget about it, we both like Storm and halle so there is no point in arguing about it...so lets just move on.

edit-Hold on lighting ill repy to you in a sec.

:up:

[weatherwitch]

So your saying calling someone a creature is fine?

It's not, you used it in a derogatory manner. and you used it because you didn't like the way they talked about Halle.

And i personally don't see the point in reacting in an insulting manner to people who's opinion you don't like[which they are entitled too even if you think they are ''haters''].Doesn't that just make you as bad as them?

Please point out were i am wrong?

actually forget about it, we both like Storm and halle so there is no point in arguing about it...so lets just move on.

edit-Hold on lighting ill repy to you in a sec.

Uhm, yeah, I'm saying calling someone a creature is fine. I've referred to myself as a creature. Sorry if you have a narrow view of definitions, but I don't. Creature is not insulting--at least not to me. And if you read more of my posts you'd know I go out of my way not to be insulting even when insults are flung directly at me.

"Doesn't that make me as bad as them?" No.

I agree that moving on is a good idea as I don't like having to explain the use and context of my vocabulary. And in the future I won't. Only know this, I say what I mean and I most assuredly mean what I say. If that offends or bothers you I appologize in advance, but it's who I am.

[Lightning Strykez!]

I have a feeling that only a handful of the "haturz" will actually give Halle credit if she does in fact knock this one out of the park. For the most rabid of them, their reaction will be inversely proportional to her performance. The better she does, the worse their reaction will be. It's just the nature of the beast.

Well, that's just the feeling I have.

I agree.

It's been six years of bashing for some of these "haters". It's too late now for some of them to change their spots. There's really two groups of them:

1.) You have the diehard campaign haters. These are the types that sign petitions. :rolleyes: They've invested too much in this--so there's no room to concede defeat. I know some on this board will grit their teeth out of sheer ego...and it will be delicious for me to watch. ;)

2.) And then you have those who initially will be impressed with her X3 performance, but will eventually change their mind after they return to the group-think online. It happens to many people--I observe it all the time. It's peer pressure and fanboys like to pride themselves on being "intellectuals" and it's vogue to hate on the easiest target.

The rest base their opinion on the performance as it is.

Halle is not the No. 1 best actress in the world--she's nowhere near the Judi Denchs, Glenn Closes or Meryl Streeps of the world. She's made mistakes with her career choices. But she is a far cry from a "hack". I can admit that now. So it won't be hard for me to give her props later if she deserves them.

[Maze]

Halle is not the best actress in the world--she's nowhere near the Judi Denchs, Glenn Closes or Meryl Streeps of the world. She's made mistakes with her career choices. But she is a far cry from a "hack". I can admit that now. So it won't be hard for me to give her props later if she deserves them.

i appreciate your objectivity and i agree.:up:

Halle performance is looking good ..

We'll see .

[weatherwitch]

Halle is not the best actress in the world--she's nowhere near the Judi Denchs, Glenn Closes or Meryl Streeps of the world. She's made mistakes with her career choices. But she is a far cry from a "hack". I can admit that now. So it won't be hard for me to give her props later if she deserves them.

Agreed. I like her acting. I have yet to see a movie where I hated her in it, including Catwoman. Yeah, I said it. However, she is not the best actress of all time. My respect of her is more in relation to how hard she has fought for more african american leads in films, how hard she pushed for an accurate "Storm" and how she's stood in the face of adversity, fan-boy hate and critcs fuming with grace and humor. :D

[PWN3R]

Yeah Halle is no hack.

From the trailer alone, you can see she has 'upped' her performance.

I wasn't really looking forward to Storm having alot more action, BUT man, I am now!

[Lightning Strykez!]

Agreed. I like her acting. I have yet to see a movie where I hated her in it, including Catwoman. Yeah, I said it. However, she is not the best actress of all time. My respect of her is more in relation to how hard she has fought for more african american leads in films, how hard she pushed for an accurate "Storm" and how she's stood in the face of adversity, fan-boy hate and critcs fuming with grace and humor. :D


And she insists on doing her own stunts! :eek::up: Seriously, 87-turn spinning wire work?

People say she's not good enough to hold an accent (although she did hold a Southern accent in some of her notable films). But she sure is savvy enough to get down and dirty for her character. This is the same woman who refused to bathe for 2 weeks to "get into" the role of a homeless crack addict.

[PWN3R]

This is the same woman who refused to bathe for 2 weeks to "get into" the role of a homeless crack addict.

Sure, she just finally found an excuse. ;)

That is dedication.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Yeah Halle is no hack.

From the trailer alone, you can see she has 'upped' her performance.

I wasn't really looking forward to Storm having alot more action, BUT man, I am now!


Your signature is hilarious.....





....and wrong. :o:p

[FRUITY]

Yeah I love her dedication towards her roles, I think if Halle trully understood her character then she's able to portray them. She's also able to convey vulnerability in all her roles making them more human to our eyes, so with Storm in X3 she's able to add depth to the character she made Storm powerful and yet somewhat fragile inside, at least that's what I get from the trailer alone.:up:

[PWN3R]

LOL

Its intended for humor yes.

Don't ban me! :eek: ;)

[Inhuman63]

Halle Berry's Storm is interesting and I will be the first to say that I could not stand her portrayal in X1 and was basically resigned to her performance in X2 but I had to sit back and really think about it. After seeing the trailer and what I believe she is gonna bring to this role this time around I believe that my conclusions are correct (May 26th will verify). Being involved in acting (nothing major just Off-Off Broadway stuff in New York), I have seen a lot of really talented actors give a bad performance because of the DIRECTOR. Halle seems to be this type of actress to me, one that gives exactly what the director requires or more specifically a Director's Actor. From my understanding Mr. Singer was not that interested in the character Storm and really had no clue about her and it showed. Not Halle's fault, she could have given really good performances and they ended up on the cutting room floor. When the outrage about her character began, Halle started investigating Storm's character and she stood up for her and I thank her for that. That is why I am glad that Mr. Singer is not directing this installment. To fully realize the characters someone was needed that had an understanding of the characters and their status in comic lore.

[the a1ant]

^I agree with this, mostly :up:

[Mr Sensitive]

i appreciate your objectivity and i agree.:up:

Halle performance is looking good ..

We'll see .

My opinion, as well.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Halle Berry's Storm is interesting and I will be the first to say that I could not stand her portrayal in X1 and was basically resigned to her performance in X2 but I had to sit back and really think about it. After seeing the trailer and what I believe she is gonna bring to this role this time around I believe that my conclusions are correct (May 26th will verify). Being involved in acting (nothing major just Off-Off Broadway stuff in New York), I have seen a lot of really talented actors give a bad performance because of the DIRECTOR. Halle seems to be this type of actress to me, one that gives exactly what the director requires or more specifically a Director's Actor. From my understanding Mr. Singer was not that interested in the character Storm and really had no clue about her and it showed. Not Halle's fault, she could have given really good performances and they ended up on the cutting room floor. When the outrage about her character began, Halle started investigating Storm's character and she stood up for her and I thank her for that. That is why I am glad that Mr. Singer is not directing this installment. To fully realize the characters someone was needed that had an understanding of the characters and their status in comic lore.

I agree with this.

I couldn't stomach her portrayal of the character in X1, mostly because the script called for her to get her butt kicked constantly. When Toad jumped to the second level at the Statue Of Liberty and she put her hand up in fear like, "Don't hurt me!" I winced. Storm doesn't cower in the shadow of her enemies...they don't even get that close to her.

For example: I didn't like how she got strangled to death by Sabertooth at the Train Station, but couldn't defend herself until Scott blew a hole in the roof so she could summon down lightning. Weak. All of those sequences made her seem weak...

But while some were blaming her for 100% of the portrayal, I was looking at Bryan and the writing team. Halle was following a script that called for all that. In my opinion, everyone was ignorant: Halle didn't do research on Storm until the backlash started, and Bryan and his writers were completely ignorant. Even recently, when Bryan was asked to sum up Storm's character all he could come up with was "Sexy."

What...the...heezy. :o

[LittleMissVixen]

...okay....its get back on track to positive Storm related things.... :)

[Lightning Strykez!]

...okay....its get back on track to positive Storm related things.... :)


I think it is positive...because even for the shaky start she had, if X3's Storm nails it, it will work out as one of the best character arcs in the franchise. She will have grown from weak and unsure of herself to a leader in three films. Although I would've preferred her to start out that way from day 1, hopefully X3 will bring to that level.

[tedw]

I agree about the character development. I never took much issue with Storm when I went to see either of the first X-films; because I'm not coming from a strong "Storm of the comic books" background, I liked her. I wasn't disappointed. Of course, I think it was also a sense of awe that my favorite heroes growing up were on the screen in front of me, and that overrode nitpicking.

But despite the introduction of Beast, Angel, Juggs, Callisto and others, the core group is still there and because we've seen them in two films already, there is again more chance for their characters to come across. It helps that the controversial "cure" story gives them all a position to take.

[the a1ant]

Y'know, while not a fan of how she was treated in X1, I kinda like how you can see such a great evolution in her character, like you said Lightnin'.

X1). Powerful, yet still scared...unsure, and sometimes mousy. Can't remember the quote of her convo with Senator Kelly, but you know about how she has a fear towards humans, and is somewhat scared?

X2). Taking on more responsibility, but still not fully there yet. "Sometimes anger, helps you survive."

X3). Jean died. Cyke isn't stepping up like was before. Storm realizes she must take charge, and realizes she must lead this team. She's angry and it's gonna be what makes her step up, and survive in this film, and she knows everything from this point on is serious business. No more of her 'family' can die.

[Xfanfan]

Y'know, while not a fan of how she was treated in X1, I kinda like how you can see such a great evolution in her character, like you said Lightnin'.

X1). Powerful, yet still scared...unsure, and sometimes mousy. Can't remember the quote of her convo with Senator Kelly, but you know about how she has a fear towards humans, and is somewhat scared?

X2). Taking on more responsibility, but still not fully there yet. "Sometimes anger, helps you survive."

X3). Jean died. Cyke isn't stepping up like was before. Storm realizes she must take charge, and realizes she must lead this team. She's angry and it's gonna be what makes her step up, and survive in this film, and she knows everything from this point on is serious business. No more of her 'family' can die.



Well said, she is going to be not only the character with the most growth but also the most improved of the franchise, its been like a evolution and Im glad Halle spoke up from X2 and started taking a stand about her character getting better treatment( I know that sounds corny lol)

Xfanfan

[X-Maniac]

How does everyone feel about Storm's demeanour, emotions and facial expressions in X3, based on the trailers?

Are we okay with majestic, commanding control? The same sort of effortless/expressionless manipulation we have seen in X1 and X2 (such as when she summoned tornadoes while flying the X-jet).

Or do we want to really see the anger that can help her survive? Is this kind of raw emotion being reserved for Jean? Should it be? Do we want to see Storm's emotions - is that in keeping with the character?

[Lightning Strykez!]

How does everyone feel about Storm's demeanour, emotions and facial expressions in X3, based on the trailers?

Are we okay with majestic, commanding control? The same sort of effortless/expressionless manipulation we have seen in X1 and X2 (such as when she summoned tornadoes while flying the X-jet).

Or do we want to really see the anger that can help her survive? Is this kind of raw emotion being reserved for Jean? Should it be? Do we want to see Storm's emotions - is that in keeping with the character?

I'd like to see a good balance between those extremes.

[Iceman]

I would have loved to see Cyclops in that 6 man line up that faces the Brotherhood

But, in his absence, will Halle Berry as Storm make an effective field leader in this most important of battles?

[Lightning Strykez!]

She's going to have to. Although I think the studio wants Logan in that position.

[Nibune]

Storm is no doubt in a position to truly call herself Gold Leader in this film, with both Jean and Scott incapacitated in oneway or another she has her moment to shine in this film which over the course of 3 films has finally arrived.
She is also one of the core 3, the first 3 x-men we were truly introduced to so its easy to see her take command, as far as Logan, he is in no position other then being older the the next line of x-kids to take charge of them. Logan isnt a leader hes a rebel dont forget that key aspect to him.

[britrogue]

I've got my fingers crossed for Halle. I am not a fan of her previous Storm performances AT ALL, but I'm well aware of the fact that it could have been down to Singer's direction as opposed to Halle's acting skills.
From what I've seen in the trailer, I think she's going to pull it off this time.

[JustABill]

"There's nothing wrong with any of us for that matter!"

''If you're with us....then fight with us!"

:D <---Me everytime I hear those lines.

[Iceman]

She's going to have to. Although I think the studio wants Logan in that position.

I don't want Wolvie trying that - it doesn't feel right at all. He'll be great in a war which is his kind of scene, giving him license to be as aggressive as he likes. Storm is the one with the level head and experience required in this situation. The other alternative is Beast who would be also good if he knew the younger X-Men and had seen them use there abilities.

[StormCrazy]

I am so excited for this movie and so excited for Storm especially. It had been a struggle for us fans to see Storm to be played right. X2 I thought was supposed to be her moment to shine but it didn't took much leap from X1 Storm. Now this time X3 is taking her to the next level and thanking God for taking Brett to the director's chair. Storm really deserved her position right now. The goddess and the leader we know is here.

[the a1ant]

"There's nothing wrong with any of us for that matter!"

''If you're with us....then fight with us!"

:D <---Me everytime I hear those lines.

Ditto. Most powerful footage I've seen of Storm in the entire franchise :p If Halle delivers lines and acting like that everytime (which she will :D), then we are in for a treat!

Storm seems to have lots of 'moments' in X3. It seems with X1/ X2, she only had one or two 'moments' of powerful dialogue:

X1: At least I've chosen a side.

X2: Sometimes anger, can help you survive.

X2: I have faith in you.

:p

[LEX]

I agree with this.

I couldn't stomach her portrayal of the character in X1, mostly because the script called for her to get her butt kicked constantly. When Toad jumped to the second level at the Statue Of Liberty and she put her hand up in fear like, "Don't hurt me!" I winced. Storm doesn't cower in the shadow of her enemies...they don't even get that close to her.

For example: I didn't like how she got strangled to death by Sabertooth at the Train Station, but couldn't defend herself until Scott blew a hole in the roof so she could summon down lightning. Weak. All of those sequences made her seem weak...

But while some were blaming her for 100% of the portrayal, I was looking at Bryan and the writing team. Halle was following a script that called for all that. In my opinion, everyone was ignorant: Halle didn't do research on Storm until the backlash started, and Bryan and his writers were completely ignorant. Even recently, when Bryan was asked to sum up Storm's character all he could come up with was "Sexy."

What...the...heezy. :o
Yes, absolutely well said. :up:

I'm sick and tired of people bashing Halle on other message boards and I don't think it's her fault AT ALL. And people are saying that Halle's constant "whining" for more "screentimes" is a bad thing. Well, I say different. Halle wants the character to MATTER on the screen and I absolutely agree with her.

Storm will rock in the screen on May 26th, that's for sure. Should put a lot of naysayers to rest. You go, Halle, and kick those Brotherhood ugly asses. :p

[Lightning Strykez!]

Ditto. Most powerful footage I've seen of Storm in the entire franchise :p If Halle delivers lines and acting like that everytime (which she will :D), then we are in for a treat!


I hope so. Inconsistency for a 3rd time would be very bad.

[LEX]

I hope so. Inconsistency for a 3rd time would be very bad.
Indeed. :down

But from what I've seen so far, Halle is looking to be the greatest Storm yet. ;) Can't wait to see more of her soon in the second trailer.

[Avalanche]

I'm sick and tired of people bashing Halle on other message boards and I don't think it's her fault AT ALL. And people are saying that Halle's constand "whining" for more "screentimes" is a bad thing. Well, I say different. Halle wants the character to MATTER on the screen and I absolutely agree with her.
Completely agree.

Halle knew the fans thought the character of Storm wasn't being done justice. It actually shows her strength as an actress that she fought to make the character of Storm how she should be, not the selfishness that some people perceive.

[Karea07]

People just like to pick on her for some reason, I assure you if Famke or James fought for a stronger character, mind it being more screentime (if they had to) or whatever, people would be like "oh they are doing their job, they will do the character justice. how cool!" but if halle does, thats another story.

[Lightning Strykez!]

People just like to pick on her for some reason, I assure you if Famke or James fought for a stronger character, mind it being more screentime (if they had to) or whatever, people would be like "oh they are doing their job, they will do the character justice. how cool!" but if halle does, thats another story.


You raise an interesting point that I was holding my tongue about.

I'll continue to hold it though. :p

[spark627]

i think it is bc SO many people were unhappy with halle in the first two films (i am one of them, although she is rocking x3 so far, so im happy) so it seemed rude to ask for a bigger role when she was sucking it big with the one she had already. it came across as though she felt she deserved bc of her oscar, which may or may not be true.

either way, if her 'whining' got her a better role and she does it justice, im all for it. i like storm a lot and so far it looks like halle is really pulling it off

[LittleMissVixen]

i think it is bc SO many people were unhappy with halle in the first two films (i am one of them, although she is rocking x3 so far, so im happy) so it seemed rude to ask for a bigger role when she was sucking it big with the one she had already. it came across as though she felt she deserved bc of her oscar, which may or may not be true.

either way, if her 'whining' got her a better role and she does it justice, im all for it. i like storm a lot and so far it looks like halle is really pulling it off


She never asked for a "bigger role," nor to be the star of the movie.
Her term of returning was that she wanted to “earn, her keep” by having something meaningful to do in the movie, rather than collecting $14mil to be a “prop piece”

[spark627]

i never said she wanted to be the star.

but, lets be real. it wasnt bc she cared about her character and the development, it was about screen time. if itwas bc of her love of the character she wouldnt of said she wouldnt do x3 while shooting catwoman. once she got catwoman she kind of wrote off storm (more than once).

[gap5ewl]

i never said she wanted to be the star.

but, lets be real. it wasnt bc she cared about her character and the development, it was about screen time. if itwas bc of her love of the character she wouldnt of said she wouldnt do x3 while shooting catwoman. once she got catwoman she kind of wrote off storm (more than once).
No it wasnt. If you read the set visits, halle said storm's screentime is about the same as the last two, the difference is she has a purpose and has amazing character development. She does care about he character and wanted to get it right.

[Lightning Strykez!]

i never said she wanted to be the star.

but, lets be real. it wasnt bc she cared about her character and the development, it was about screen time. if itwas bc of her love of the character she wouldnt of said she wouldnt do x3 while shooting catwoman. once she got catwoman she kind of wrote off storm (more than once).


The writers, producers and director have all stated clearly that Halle was never interested in additonal screentime. This rumor is something that is being fueled in the fan community, but apparently it's not factual. Remember, at one point she was even willing to return just for a brief cameo before Bryan jumped ship. Considering that a cameo is very small screentimewise, that's not an indication she was clamoring for more camera ops.

She enjoys ensemble films and just wanted better lines. I don't see the crime in that.

[LittleMissVixen]

i never said she wanted to be the star.

but, lets be real. it wasnt bc she cared about her character and the development, it was about screen time. if itwas bc of her love of the character she wouldnt of said she wouldnt do x3 while shooting catwoman. once she got catwoman she kind of wrote off storm (more than once).

same difference.

Halle has said nothing about wanting more screen time. Her comments have been about the quality of the character not the quantity of screen time.
Halle wanted character development before she signed on to return. Not a few pointless lines and being the official team jet driver.

[KenK]

i never said she wanted to be the star.

but, lets be real. it wasnt bc she cared about her character and the development, it was about screen time. if itwas bc of her love of the character she wouldnt of said she wouldnt do x3 while shooting catwoman. once she got catwoman she kind of wrote off storm (more than once).

I think it's fair to say that it could be a combination of both. I think she had a fairly decent amount of screentime in both films, but the issue is, what was done with that screen time. Very little. It's not fair to any actor to play a character that got next to zero development in previous films, and have an adttitude of, "just do it and be happy". Everything she's said about Storm has been dead-on. She's a much stronger character than she's been written in the films, and why shouldn't an actor ask for that kind of treatment in the film?

This goes all the way back to before the first film went into production, and a STILL unconfirmed quote allegedly from an interview where Halle apparently said she had be "reduced to playing a comic book character." Every time someone brings that up, they never have anything to back it up, no article links or audio to hear Halle making the statement. X-Fans haven't forgiven her since, and take everything she says and twists it into making her sound like an ego-maniacal primadona.

[PhoenixRising]

Why is everyone always so down on Halle? It was not her fault Storm wasn't a very compelling character in X1 and X2. She if a phenominal actress and it was completely the director's and writer's fault. Have these people seen what Halle can do? Have they seen 'Monsters Ball' or 'Their Eyes Were Watching God'? This whole ordeal about her asking for a better role was just her pleading with the writers to give her a part and focus in the movie that can match her amazing talent as an actress.

[Exile]

I really hope that this movie brings Halle out from under the doghouse that so many X-men movie fans have put her in. Everything that she has said since 2000 shows how much she appreciates and loves the Storm character. She only wanted to play the character that she knew Storm to be..a powerful, regal, LEADER. Now, I love Bryan Singer for what he did bringing The X-men to the screen but I think he really shortchanged the character of Storm in the first movie and a little less in the second. I am glad that Halle fought for her character to have a little more substance in the third film and I dont think it was mainly for ego. She hears alot of what the fans are screaming about (her not flying for real in the previous two movies and appearing relatively weak and having godawful lines) and wants to give the fans something to cheer about.

[Karea07]

IMO Halle is one of the superb members of the cast, not just because of her looks but of her talent. I think she is one of the best actresses Hollywood has to offer. She should have never gotten shortchanged in the previous films, but this film promises to change that. That makes it all the more exciting for me.

[reddog271]

if anyone wants to know if this young lady can act.... Go see Jungle Fever. she is amazing in it. The woman and flat out act.

[Exile]

if anyone wants to know if this young lady can act.... Go see Jungle Fever. she is amazing in it. The woman and flat out act.

Not to mention "Introducing Dorothy Dandridge", "Losing Isiah", and one of my favorites "Queen".

oh and who can forget "BAPS" ? hehe just kidding :)

[Lightning Strykez!]

Not to mention "Introducing Dorothy Dandridge", "Losing Isiah", and one of my favorites "Queen".

oh and who can forget "BAPS" ? hehe just kidding :)


Introducing and especially Queen were the first films that put Halle on my radar....looooong before X-Men came into the equation.

[reddog271]

Introducing and especially Queen were the first films that put Halle on my radar....looooong before X-Men came into the equation.


If I remember correctly she got the role in Queen based on her work in Jungle Fever. But yeah sheh was great in Queen. The woman is a very solid actress... I enjoyed her much more in X2 than I did in one. (she seemed weak and scared in X1). I expect to enjoy her much more in this one...

Stop the hate..

[Storm22]

There is no doubt that Halle is a very talented actress. It's quite pathetic people are STILL dwelling on Catwoman. I highly doubt there's an actor in Hollywood nowadays who hasn't been involved in a flop/poor film of some kind. It's the nature of the business! From what we've seen of Halle so far in X3 she seems to be flexing those acting muscles to the fullest!

[Hunter Rider]

There is no doubt that Halle is a very talented actress. It's quite pathetic people are STILL dwelling on Catwoman. I highly doubt there's an actor in Hollywood nowadays who hasn't been involved in a flop/poor film of some kind. It's the nature of the business! From what we've seen of Halle so far in X3 she seems to be flexing those acting muscles to the fullest!

Exactly,there isn't an actor in the business that hasn't made a clunker

[KenK]

Exactly,there isn't an actor in the business that hasn't made a clunker

Just about every actress to win a Best Actress Oscar, for that matter. Angelina Jolie had Tomb Raider, Charlize Theron (AND Frances McDorman) had Aeon Flux.

[Karea07]

Nicole Kidman had Bewitched

[KenK]

See, you're catchin' on, now!!

[FRUITY]

Nicole Kidman had Bewitched

Ugh, bewitched.

[Halcohol]

Halle won her Oscar for Introducing Dorothy Dandridge, didn't she?

[weatherwitch]

Halle won her Oscar for Introducing Dorothy Dandridge, didn't she?

Nope, Monsters Ball.

[Halcohol]

Right, right. Everyone who has sex with Billy Bob Thornton on film should get an Oscar too. It'll help ease the shame.

[weatherwitch]

Right, right. Everyone who has sex with Billy Bob Thornton on film should get an Oscar too. It'll help ease the shame.

LOL. I think she got the Oscar because it was 'convincing' sex, ;) which was amazing considering **shudder** Billy Bob. Ok, I need a shower...

[FRUITY]

Was that even necessary? Lol. Now I have an image of Billy Bob in my head.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f351/fruityemen/Gif/Icon__Bleedy_Eyes_by_SilverPoot.gif

[LMason]

Halle won her Oscar for Introducing Dorothy Dandridge, didn't she?

No, she won an Emmy, a Golden Globe, and a Screen Actors Guild award. It was a TV movie on HBO, so it was not eligible for an Oscar. Say what you want about awards (you can't compare actors as "Best" for different performances), but the awards do show that Halle is quite respected by her peers. The SAG Award is kind of validation that, yes, she can act.

[Halcohol]

Kind of OT, but while we're talking about Billy Bob Thornton...

"It's been reported that Brad Pitt is okay with Angelina Jolie continuing to sleep with women. That's right, folks, the impossible has happened: Brad Pitt's life has gotten EVEN BETTER."
-don't remember who said this... Conan maybe?

[Lightning Strykez!]

No, she won an Emmy, a Golden Globe, and a Screen Actors Guild award. It was a TV movie on HBO, so it was not eligible for an Oscar. Say what you want about awards (you can't compare actors as "Best" for different performances), but the awards do show that Halle is quite respected by her peers. The SAG Award is kind of validation that, yes, she can act.

She got an SAG for Monster's too.

[CeeJay]

There is no doubt that Halle is a very talented actress. It's quite pathetic people are STILL dwelling on Catwoman. I highly doubt there's an actor in Hollywood nowadays who hasn't been involved in a flop/poor film of some kind. It's the nature of the business! From what we've seen of Halle so far in X3 she seems to be flexing those acting muscles to the fullest!

The sad thing is a lot of people will CHOOSE to dwell on the negative, no matter how many positives there is to something, you know, and that's really, really pathetic (Hint hint: that goes out to all the haters, I ain't beating round the bush aye).

It's like, man, everyone makes mistakes and you need to go through valleys to experience the highs: everyone has ups and downs. So I don't understand why, now, twenty years later, people are still talking about "Catwoman" and holding that over the woman.

GET OVER IT!

And quit being so catty and jealous about the fact that she's actually going to have a character this time around.

Nuff said.

[xstormfan]

Although i'm sure she'll do great in X3 i think because it's a comic movie it won't do much to erase the memory of Catwomen from the media and critics minds. I hope after Perfect Stranger she does a movie that has Oscar potential such as Nefertiti or October Squall, so that people can finally get over Catwomen.

[Sketchee]

I can see both sides of it, but I do like Halle and I do think she did very well with what she had to work with. I mean, I wish she could have kept the accent for the second film but she did a really good job with her part in that movie. It still wasn't comic book storm and she didn't get any action scenes at all.

I feel sorry for her because she's said fans complain to her about the way the character is written and directed. I know she had filmed more scenes for the original X-Men that were cut (classroom scene) and the original script that she signed on had a prologue similar to the rogue and magneto one's that explain storm's background at least a little more. She signed up for the first movie under the impression that her character would be a lot more involved and now she's made a commitment to playing the character

[Electrix]

Thinking about it. Can anyone name me an A-List actress that would sign onto a film with 15+ other characters, knowing full well she wont get the spotlight?

I can only think of Sandra Bullox who joined a big cast. Other's only do it if they are the star, like Nicole Kidman, Renée Zellweger, Reece Witherspoon etc.

[Storm22]

I can't really understand how people thought Storm didn't get any action scenes in X2 though. True she wasn't in a fight or didn't fly but the X-Jet dogfight scene was very action packed and then Storm's tornado gauntlet was imo one of most mind blowing scenes in the movie! She was also the one responsible for shutting down Dark Cerebro and partly responsible for retrieving Nightcrawler. I was personally quite happy with Storm in X2, which makes me think I'll be over the moon with her in X3! I actually felt more sympathy for Cyclops in X2.

[Electrix]

In those things you named all Halle did was either sit and act like her eyes were going white or stand and act as though her eyes were going white. Thats why Halle wanted to improve her character because its alright saying 'She saved the world' but all she did was stand there. There was no emotion, no character development, no sacrificing, no anger, just stood there doing a blizzard which we had seen in X-Men 1.

I've seen more action from Storm in the 2:30 trailer than I have in X-Men 1 and X-Men 2 put together.

[Storm22]

She does seem more comfortable and confident in her role in X3 alright.

[weatherwitch]

In those things you named all Halle did was either sit and act like her eyes were going white or stand and act as though her eyes were going white. Thats why Halle wanted to improve her character because its alright saying 'She saved the world' but all she did was stand there. There was no emotion, no character development, no sacrificing, no anger, just stood there doing a blizzard which we had seen in X-Men 1.

I've seen more action from Storm in the 2:30 trailer than I have in X-Men 1 and X-Men 2 put together.

Too true. **does impatient dance for May**

[Electrix]

She does.

I like your avatar.

[weatherwitch]

She does.

I like your avatar.

:D Roma is a Goddess. (I think that's who made Storm22 avvy) or Fruity. Both Goddesses.

[Iceman]

Thinking about it. Can anyone name me an A-List actress that would sign onto a film with 15+ other characters, knowing full well she wont get the spotlight?

I can only think of Sandra Bullox who joined a big cast. Other's only do it if they are the star, like Nicole Kidman, Renée Zellweger, Reece Witherspoon etc.

It's very rare for the big boys and girls to sign on to films in which they do not play a starring role

[LMason]

I'm in the camp that thinks the Halle's performance and gravity in just the X3 trailer is better than her part in the first two movies.

Halle did help shut down Cerebro and start the tornadoes during the jet sequence, but again, the phrase I use for these scenes is the "constipation competition". Think about her as an actress filming these scenes. She has a fan blowing in her face while she stares real hard. And then, that's it. Storm's part is over.

[Iceman]

I'm in the camp that thinks the Halle's performance and gravity in just the X3 trailer is better than her part in the first two movies.

Halle did help shut down Cerebro and start the tornadoes during the jet sequence, but again, the phrase I use for these scenes is the "constipation competition". Think about her as an actress filming these scenes. She has a fan blowing in her face while she stares real hard. And then, that's it. Storm's part is over.

She's a constipation expert now

Will be useful if any constipation scenes are written into the X3 script

[xstormfan]

i was just watching The Insider and they said Monday they will have an exclusive set report and interview with Halle on the set of Perfect Stranger!!!!!!!!

[Sketchee]

I'm in the camp that thinks the Halle's performance and gravity in just the X3 trailer is better than her part in the first two movies.

Halle did help shut down Cerebro and start the tornadoes during the jet sequence, but again, the phrase I use for these scenes is the "constipation competition". Think about her as an actress filming these scenes. She has a fan blowing in her face while she stares real hard. And then, that's it. Storm's part is over.

She did have some nice scenes where she talks to Nightcrawler. And scenes with Wolverine and Senator Kelly in the first movie. THose scenes set up some "point of view" for storm, but really were just minor side moments and could have been cut right out without anyone noticing. Halle did quite well with those lines.<br>I agree that she seems to be more integral and therefore interesting this time around just in the trailer.

[gap5ewl]

:D Roma is a Goddess. (I think that's who made Storm22 avvy) or Fruity. Both Goddesses.
your avatar is awesomness to the third power!

[weatherwitch]

your avatar is awesomness to the third power!

Yes, yes it is. A gift from Roma. :D

[Xfanfan]

Yes, yes it is. A gift from Roma. :D

Well she did an amazing job. Great job on her part.
Xfanfan

[Storm22]

She was indeed. People expected more though, at least in X2!

[xwolverine2]

She was indeed. People expected more though, at least in X2!
she did fly more..............





......in a plane:O....still kickass though

[Iceman]

A lot of people complained that storm didn't get a chance to fly in the first two movies.

Correct me if i'm wrong,but when storm battles toad in x1, wasn't she floating in the air??

She was seen flying up in the elevator after toad kicks her and thought she was dead.

She was but it doesn't really count does it? :)

[JustABill]

I must admit to something.....

I spent 10 bucks....buying......






CATWOMAN. :D

[WorthyStevens]

I must admit to something.....

I spent 10 bucks....buying......






CATWOMAN. :D


You paid that much for it? :D

[xwolverine2]

I must admit to something.....

I spent 10 bucks....buying......






CATWOMAN. :D
i must admit something worse...




i bought it the day it came out!:eek:

[JustABill]

I love Halle, xwolverine2, but damn not that much.

[xwolverine2]

I love Halle, xwolverine2, but damn not that much.
off-topic:im sorry but mota's boobs HAVE to be CGI in your avy scene....because shes NEVER had huge t*ts like THAT!:eek:

[lordofthenerds]

off-topic:im sorry but mota's boobs HAVE to be CGI in your avy scene....because shes NEVER had huge t*ts like THAT!:eek:
You just thought of that.:p I thought that it was implied.

[YAVANNA]

I only wish that the ones that wrote X1 and X2 would have kept all the things that involved Storm in the novels and translate it to the screen, like that little nothing that was having Storm and Wolverine keeping an eye in the unconcious professor.

[PoSeiDon]

there is going to be a 2nd trailer?? why lol....thats just too much spoiling!! no more lol.

Honestly...i never had a problem with halle's performace in any of the films. but i would be lying if i said i dont like what i see in x3 a lot better! the shots of her using her powers just screams STORM from the comics more than her 2previous ones!

i actually think all of the cast will kinda be more "comic booky"..well the original ones.

[xwolverine2]

there is going to be a 2nd trailer?? why lol....thats just too much spoiling!! no more lol.Honestly...i never had a problem with halle's performace in any of the films. but i would be lying if i said i dont like what i see in x3 a lot better! the shots of her using her powers just screams STORM from the comics more than her 2previous ones!

i actually think all of the cast will kinda be more "comic booky"..well the original ones.
i agree...NO SECOND TRAILER!....
..we can almost guess the whole movie now.

[chaseter]

Give us 50 trailers, I don't care.

[WorthyStevens]

i agree...NO SECOND TRAILER!....
..we can almost guess the whole movie now.

Speak for yourself. :p

I will never be able to piece together this movie... ever. :p

[xwolverine2]

Give us 50 trailers, I don't care.
:eek: hell no....star wars is a good (bad) example...i guessed the wholen movie because of that last trailer:(

there is already more than enough in this trailer (especially of storm) to get people pumped up....now all they have to do is whore out this trailer like crazy all over the place!

[phoenixflight]

From Brett Ratner's website, HI-Res poster, enjoy!!

STORM
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/9093/xstorm9wj.jpg

[Avalanche]

Still not a massive fan of the Storm poster. It's one of the weaker posters.

[Electrix]

Okay...some of you might know the Halle Berry/Charlize Theron thing.

(Theron said she didnt want to do a Halle Berry and do a crappy film like Catwoman after winning an Oscar, then comes Aeon Flux)

Well we all know Halle was a Bond girl and played the character of Jinx....Charlize Theron is in talks to be in a film called...Jinx..

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000234/

I know IMDB isnt that good but if it turns out to be true...how much does Charlize want to be Halle Berry?!

[Avalanche]

(Theron said she didnt want to do a Halle Berry and do a crappy film like Catwoman after winning an Oscar, then comes Aeon Flux)
I loved Aeon Flux, and Theron in it for that matter.

[LEX]

Still not a massive fan of the Storm poster. It's one of the weaker posters.
Agreed. Her hair is so...yellow.

[Retroman]

Some great new shots of Halle.:up:

From rosiedemario:

Halle Berry films documentary in LA cemetery "For the Love of Liberty" - March 10, 2006

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6092/halle11gf.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2153/halle20tt.jpghttp://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8960/halle37tr.jpg

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/5840/halle48pp.jpghttp://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8101/halle55fh.jpg


Source: http://rosiedemario.blogspot.com/2006/03/halle-berry-films-documentary-in-la.html

NOTE: This is not a shoot for X3;)

[xstormfan]

what is that?

[LEX]

She looks amazing there. :up:

what is that?

Halle Berry films documentary in LA cemetery "For the Love of Liberty"

[miketx]

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6092/halle11gf.jpg

can some one plz do a manip