"By The Goddess": The Official Storm/Halle Berry Discussion

[Jan Irisi]

Seriously folks, what is up with Patrick there?

[Lightning Strykez!]

I think he's being told that his performance during the first take was not what Brett was looking for. And Halle is looking at him saying "It did suck Patrick."

[Blackpanther22]

What's with all of the character squads? Where's the originality? Avenging Angels? Gambit's Royal Flush? Phoenix Freaks?!?!?! The Storm Squad was the first one. What gives?

[Optic Rage]

Just fans sticking together i guess...

[GothicPowerMix1]

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/4995/wz175covers7bp.jpg

[*xmenfan*]

:eek: thanks DNSK!!

[LittleMissVixen]

wow....so not digging Routh and Bosworth.....

[Darthkush]

hmmm...we'll see if it really is. That's what she said about X2 as well. On the other hand, I'm shocked that she came back this time so I think it'll be a real chore to get her back for a 4th anyway.

[Storm22]

I thought as much, although she said the same aftre X2! What a stupid looking cover with Routh and Bosworth. She just looks so wrong as Lois Lane and he looks like an idiot with his arm like that! I'm sorry, I am looking forward to SR but so far all the released images have been SO boring!
Last film or not Halle had better join in in the promo work for X3!! She totally blanked it for X2(I know she was filming somewhere else but she could have done more than she did!)

[JokerNick]

wow, looks like a great issue........

[littyx]

So no Storm spin-off? (Terrible Superman photo BTW.)

[Specter313]

We'll see about that...

[YJ1]

wow....so not digging Routh and Bosworth.....

They look just awful in the roles, like some sort of parity. I'll definitely be picking up the alternate cover. The more I see Routh wearing the suit the less I want to see SR.

As for Halle, I was with the crowd that said we didn't even need her for X3. So, losing her for X4 doesn't matter for anything.

[ts16]

Wow, could Wizard put superman on their cover enough times? :rolleyes: Can't wait to read the interview though!

[Electrix]

Thats why its X-Men 3: The Last Stand...its talking about Halle! :eek:

I expected this. She has been with the franchise for 6 years now and its time to move on.

[Blackpanther22]

She could be refering to the fact that she isn't signed for any more X-films, like Vinnie Jones.

[green]

So no Storm spin-off? (Terrible Superman photo BTW.)


Notice how it says "My last X-Men movie";)

I can almost guarantee if Fox offered her a "Storm" franchise she'd take it.

[Storm22]

They look just awful in the roles, like some sort of parity. I'll definitely be picking up the alternate cover. The more I see Routh wearing the suit the less I want to see SR.


I agree, while I'm sure he'll look good in the movie and in motion I've, so far, hated pretty much every promo shot that's been released of Routh as Superman, especially the fake ass looking ones of him in flight!
I'd say this is realistically the last X-Men movie for the other principal actors too - McKellen, Stewart, Marsden, Famke, Jackman. For one thing, they ain't getting any younger and it would also make sense with X3 being the end of this trilogy. I'd say Beast will return with the younger X-Men and possibly Gambit, if there is an X4.

[Kanon]

Ok, just remember this is April's fool issue, right? I'm not saying that is false, just weird to see the Q&A "promo" in only one of two covers...

[GothicPowerMix1]

Ok, just remember this is April's fool issue, right? I'm not saying that is false, just weird to see the Q&A "promo" in only one of two covers...

Nope it is the May Issue

[kytrigger]

Yeah, it isn't really shocking to see that this may be her last x-men movie. As for the cover: i agree that teh realeased photos haven't appealed to me very much of SR, hopefully the next trailer will blow me away. Routh with his arm up reminds me of Captain Planet. He's the power of Heart!

[Optic Rage]

They really wouldent put it on the front of the cover even if it was Aprils issue.

False advertising...

Oh well im not suprised that she wont be returning for another x-men movie....

[Kanon]

Nope it is the May Issue
May on the cover, but it's ships at the end of March / beggining of April

On the site, it says something about the Q&A, but nothing about her last X-Men movie...

PS: Yeah, the supes photo sucks. The comic store here normally only gives one of the cover, so I hope I get the other :)

[FieryBalrog]

Notice how it says "My last X-Men movie";)

I can almost guarantee if Fox offered her a "Storm" franchise she'd take it.

I can almost guarantee she won't, after Catwoman. She's not going to take that risk again. In X-men at least its an ensemble.

[Storm22]

Given the current trend with female lead action movies also, I'd say she'll definitely steer clear of a Storm spin off. As much of a Storm fan that I am, I'm also not sure a whole movie about her would work.

[Pickle-El]

This just breaks my heart.

[Retroman]

Hmm..makes you wonder what becomes of Storm in X3.

[X-Maniac]

I think she quite likely has done the Storm thing now, she's through with it after six years. The risk of a spin-off would be too much, after Catwoman and the shelving of the proposed Jinx spin-off.

Any Storm spin-off would probably recast the character. I could also see Ororo popping up in a Black Pather movie.

I wonder what Storm's fate will be at the end of X3? Simon totally ignored a question asking if she were depowered or killed.

[FieryBalrog]

I think she quite likely has done the Storm thing now, she's through with it after six years. The risk of a spin-off would be too much, after Catwoman and the shelving of the proposed Jinx spin-off.

Any Storm spin-off would probably recast the character. I could also see Ororo popping up in a Black Pather movie.

I wonder what Storm's fate will be at the end of X3? Simon totally ignored a question asking if she were depowered or killed.

They need a young A-list black actress who can carry her own movie. It'll be tough.

Black Panther could happen. Maybe thats why they're putting them together in the comics.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Hmm..makes you wonder what becomes of Storm in X3.


:eek:

The plot thickens!!

[Storm22]

*begins to worry*

[FieryBalrog]

*begins to worry*

Nothing's going to happen. They're not going to kill/depower that many characters. Especially not more than two A-listers.

[Electrix]

Whether she dies or not were not going to see her again so she might as well.

[Retroman]

They need a young A-list black actress who can carry her own movie. It'll be tough.

Black Panther could happen. Maybe thats why they're putting them together in the comics.
I think Wesley Snipes is set to star in that and theres not enough money in the world to get Halle to work with him.

:eek:

The plot thickens!!
It does indeed....

[FieryBalrog]

Whether she dies or not were not going to see her again so she might as well.

They might want her as a teacher in a young X-men spinoff. They might want her as a support character in a Black Panther movie. Whatever it is, they will leave their options open. If they DO kill/incapacitate Cyke and Xavier, and personally I think they will, they're not going to go after Storm too. It'll cut down their options and achieve little.

[Specter313]

:eek:

The plot thickens!!

Or you just think it does and it could mean absolutely nothing at all.

[X-Maniac]

Whether she dies or not were not going to see her again so she might as well.

You naughty boy! :eek:

I think she will end up as the mother figure to care for Leech and the other X-kids; she's very much been the Earth Mother of this franchise (in keeping with the whole mother nature - mistress of the elements theme).

[Retroman]

Nothing's going to happen. They're not going to kill/depower that many characters. Especially not more than two A-listers.
You can't be certain about that. Maybe they've reworked the script to allow this. Maybe Storm gets depowered/killed or even better she returns to Africa. Leaving the possibility of a return in X4 or 5 (who knows).

[Retroman]

Or you just think it does and it could mean absolutely nothing at all.
Why are you so sceptical?:confused:

[JokerNick]

see this is why i don't think they will kill off cyke...... because of the sequels, I had a feeling that Halle wouldn't be coming back, and I doubt jackman will either, they need to have an adult character continue on, and James Marsden isn't exectly an A type celebrity, he'd be easy to resign......

[Specter313]

Why are you so sceptical?:confused:

Why does her saying that she probably won't do more have to mean that something happens to Storm in the movies?

[Storm22]

Why does her saying that she probably won't do more have to mean that something happens to Storm in the movies?

Nothing's certain but just imagine if that was James Marsden saying that instead of Halle, the boards would crash with speculation! I doubt though, if Storm did die in X3, that Halle would be allowed say this is her last X-Men movie as it'd be considered a spoiler.

[Retroman]

Why does her saying that she probably won't do more have to mean that something happens to Storm in the movies?
Because in the past the producers have many time said they don't like recasting and always will try to avoid that at all costs.

People (general audience) identify Halle Berry with the character Storm. I think it will be hard for another actress to come and step in take over or win over. Not as hard (near impossible) as replacing Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, McKellen but still...

[Specter313]

Because in the past the producers have many time said they don't like recasting and always will try to avoid that at all costs.

People (general audience) identify Halle Berry with the character Storm. I think it will be hard for another actress to come and step in take over or win over. Not as hard (near impossible) as replacing Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, McKellen but still...

But again, that doesn't mean anything will happen with Storm in the movies. She could just not come back. Do you really think that they'd let her say this if it had any repercussions on what happens to her character in the film? I'd think not.

[Avalanche]

Why are you so sceptical?:confused:
Because he appears to have issues with any sort of speculation. He fails to understand that a lot of the board derive some enjoyment from speculation.

If it's not an absolute certainty, and you read into it, Spectre will crush you with his 'you have no proof' line of reasoning.

We like to speculate Spectre. It's fun.

[Maze]

Yup let's not forget that Storm has been depowered one time in a "cure" storyline ( but not the one from Whedon : the gifted) and like Ratner said" . I can justify and I literally have a book this thick (about 4 inches thick) of comic book references for every single scene in the movie. Something that happens, every scene in this movie exists somewhere in the comics. "

It could happen.

[Specter313]

Because he appears to have issues with any sort of speculation. He fails to understand that a lot of the board derive some enjoyment from speculation.

If it's not an absolute certainty, and you read into it, Spectre will crush you with his 'you have no proof' line of reasoning.

We like to speculate Spectre. It's fun.

And what crawled up your ass?

[DarknessOfDeath]

a spider? .... oh no... :( nasty spiders. -plucks them off-

[Retroman]

But again, that doesn't mean anything will happen with Storm in the movies. She could just not come back. Do you really think that they'd let her say this if it had any repercussions on what happens to her character in the film? I'd think not.
Hmm..you have a point there:up:, but, still i'm leaning towards the possibility that something -we have not at this point heard of- happens to Storm at the end of the film.Something that makes Halle think she won't need to return to the role.

[Avalanche]

And what crawled up your ass?
Your attitude toward anyone who makes an assumption. To anyone who speculates from little snippets of information.

That's just what happens when a much hyped movie is yet to be released. No need to come down on anyone and everyone who discusses something that isn't fact.

Your official facts parade is growing a little tiresome.

[JustABill]

She will be missed......until X4 rolls along. I can't believe that she'd fight so hard to get the role like it was meant to be, and then just dart on it after one film. Sure, you can say she's been here for 6 years playing Ororo, or Ororo-lite as we shall call her, but now that she's got the Weather Goddess, she and the fans always wanted, why dart so easily?

This also clashes with the line she said recently...''I couldn't bare to see anyone else wear Storm's wig." If the factors were right for an X4 and Storm was a part of it, Halle would so be there.

[Specter313]

Your attitude toward anyone who makes an assumption. To anyone who speculates from little snippets of information.

That's just what happens when a much hyped movie is yet to be released. No need to come down on anyone and everyone who discusses something that isn't fact.

Your official facts parade is growing a little tiresome.

Pointing out that someone could be making a mountain out of a mole hill is not "coming down" on anyone. Did I say they couldn't speculate? No. I said that it could mean nothing at all. You want to let people all have the right to say whatever, so I have just as much right to say what I did. I never attacked nor demeaned anyone, so back off.

[Retroman]

Yup let's not forget that Storm has been depowered one time in a "cure" storyline ( but not the one from Whedon : the gifted) and like Ratner said

It could happen.
Thats true Maze.

I'm glad this interview is been released tommorow. Then we'll know the full context in which she made these comments.

[Electrix]

Halle said this ages ago so I dont know why a few people are acting like she's abandoning the franchise. She said she would come back to 'complete the triloy' a while back.

[FieryBalrog]

Because in the past the producers have many time said they don't like recasting and always will try to avoid that at all costs.

People (general audience) identify Halle Berry with the character Storm. I think it will be hard for another actress to come and step in take over or win over. Not as hard (near impossible) as replacing Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, McKellen but still...

Thats like saying they'd kill of nightcrawler because they didnt want him for a sequel.


Even if Halle's gone and they dont want more Storm in future movies, they can just write her out.

[JustABill]

Then recently after ages ago saying this, she said...''I could not bare to see anyone else put on that white wig."

Makes you wonder huh?

[FieryBalrog]

She will be missed......until X4 rolls along. I can't believe that she'd fight so hard to get the role like it was meant to be, and then just dart on it after one film. Sure, you can say she's been here for 6 years playing Ororo, or Ororo-lite as we shall call her, but now that she's got the Weather Goddess, she and the fans always wanted, why dart so easily?

This also clashes with the line she said recently...''I couldn't bare to see anyone else wear Storm's wig." If the factors were right for an X4 and Storm was a part of it, Halle would so be there.

Halle says what people want to hear. Don't read too much into her statements. Thats why she was pooh-poohing comic book movies right after her Oscar, and changing tunes when her career started slipping again.


For all her "championing" of Storm recently, I doubt she knows much about the character. Certainly hasn't given any indication that she has.

[Electrix]

Well maybe Storm gets killed so nobody has to..

[JustABill]

I will admit that Halle does tend to say what people want to here, but from short personal talks between my friend/source on set who has met her, he says she's a very nice person and enjoyed her stay on this film, I think Halle is just saying this ahead of time, just in case this REALLY is her last film.

I will however disagree on that she knows nothing about the character, I'm not going to divuluge into this conversation any more however as I'm so tired of seeing every new thread locked over gripes.

[FieryBalrog]

I will admit that Halle does tend to say what people want to here, but from short personal talks between my friend/source on set who has met her, he says she's a very nice person and enjoyed her stay on this film, I think Halle is just saying this ahead of time, just in case this REALLY is her last film.

I will however disagree on that she knows nothing about the character, I'm not going to divuluge into this conversation any more however as I'm so tired of seeing every new thread locked over gripes.

I'm sure she's a very nice person. However, I dont think her non-existent "deep love for Storm" will keep her tied to the X-franchise if she thinks there's a better career move.

I think she really is done with X-men movies unless her next few movies bomb terribly.

[reddog271]

when did her career start slipping?

[Electrix]

It hasnt.

[FieryBalrog]

when did her career start slipping?

She was expected to carry Gothika and Catwoman and they both were box office failures.

[JustABill]

See, I don't see her as that type at all. She's said this comment at X2, but at the time it made sense. Seeing as Singer, a man who quite frankly we all know she dislikes, even if both say elsewise, they do seem very unfond of one another was still at the helm then.

This time I think she's saying this as a precaution to something just in case there is no X4, or no X4 involving Storm. She's dug herself into this role now, she's made friends with the new director, she's made friends from the past movies, and possibly even deepened those friendships due to Singer no longer being a part of these films. I think even if her next film is a success/flop, and with Perfect Stranger it could seriously go both ways, she would gladly sign on for an X4 or even an X spin-off (as long as it was not focused on Storm as the center piece, she'll stay away from that because of Catwoman.)

[JustABill]

Gothika is a horror movie. Horror movies have an insanely rough time at the box office. Hell even, the so called ''name brand" horror like Jason/Freddy/Michael has a hard time. Gothika's failure can not be pinned on Halle what so ever.

Catwoman's failure is also not on Halle's behalf, it is on the behalf of too much changed from the source material, leading to bad word of mouth even before a trailer hit theaters. Catwoman was doomed to fail the moment fan boys learned Selina Kyle was no longer a part of the productions intentions.

[snwboarder88]

i dont see anything?!

[Electrix]

.....are you supposed to?

[snwboarder88]

haha...the first post is a picture? or something, and where is the interview?

[GothicPowerMix1]

I am unsure about this. She fights & fights & fights to have a nice good role to have her Character a good decent role & she finally gets it & is now deciding to leave the Franchise after this Movie ? What is the point of giving Halle what she wanted if she is not even going to stick around ?

[FieryBalrog]

Gothika is a horror movie. Horror movies have an insanely rough time at the box office. Hell even, the so called ''name brand" horror like Jason/Freddy/Michael has a hard time. Gothika's failure can not be pinned on Halle what so ever.

Catwoman's failure is also not on Halle's behalf, it is on the behalf of too much changed from the source material, leading to bad word of mouth even before a trailer hit theaters. Catwoman was doomed to fail the moment fan boys learned Selina Kyle was no longer a part of the productions intentions.

There's always excuses for failure. Its still a fact that two of the films built around her failed, and thats what matters for a career. If I get fired from two jobs, its going to look bad on my resume no matter what I tell my next boss. Fail two classes, prospective employers will not be happy no matter how understandable. Just how it is.

[Electrix]

haha...the first post is a picture? or something, and where is the interview?

The magazine is out in May so you'll see the interview then.

[snwboarder88]

The magazine is out in May so you'll see the interview then.

ok....whats your problem

[Electrix]

I havent got one :confused:

[snwboarder88]

ok....whats your problem

Just wanted to see it, and wasnt sure if it was posted yet

[Electrix]

Ok..

[GothicPowerMix1]

ok....whats your problem

You asked a question & he answered it. However (which with a little thinking & looking at the Cover (the Month) you would have been able to answer the question yourself. Your the one with the problem

[Octoberist]

For God's sakes....This is how I see it:

Brett Ratner kept saying that this is the last X-Men movie. Then Hugh Jackman said that this is his last X-Men movie (besides Wolverine). Then now Halle Berry said this is her last movie. Fox dubbed X3 "The Last Stand".

If people seriously think that there will be an X4, then I don't know what to say. Sure, "Never say Never" but the outlook for X4 is really really dim.

[green]

She was expected to carry Gothika and Catwoman and they both were box office failures.


And you think she is not going to keep trying?
Halle Berry has gone beyond actress and into the realm of movie star. If Fox threw money at her to star in and produce a Storm franchise(which they are already rumored to be starting three spin-offs), you honestly think she wouldnt do it?
There honestly arent a lot of quality roles in Hollywood for African American women, she'd do it as a career move. Probably getting a production deal for something else with it.

[snwboarder88]

You asked a question & he answered it. However (which with a little thinking & looking at the Cover (the Month) you would have been able to answer the question yourself. Your the one with the problem

Who the heck are you? i was just asking a question...And i cant see the picture of the mag so i wouldnt know if it was new or coming out in may.

[JustABill]

Yes, she was the star of both films. And no, they have not hurt her career as much as you are saying they did.

She has since Catwoman had projects built around her on and off, sure the status of these projects seems to be up in the air. She's still the most sought after black actress in Hollywood. Directors are still going to hire for quite some time, ever actor/actresses has flops under their belt.

Halle gets 2 and it ruins her career? Hell, Nicole Kidman/Tom Cruise/Julia Roberts/Reese Witherspoon/Other A Listers have more than that and they are still going strong. Catwoman and Gothika HAVE not destroyed Halle's career, her career is not slipping.

[Octoberist]

BTW, there's a lot of roles for African American women; if it was bad before, it has improved. At least more, than any other minority group out there (Asian, Latino, etc)

[GothicPowerMix1]

Who the heck are you? i was just asking a question...And i cant see the picture of the mag so i wouldnt know if it was new or coming out in may.

Who the heck are you ? & look at the Cover for the Date & if you can not do that your Question was already answered in the Thread if you just took the time to look. It is called Common Sense

[snwboarder88]

Who the heck are you ? & look at the Cover for the Date & if you can not do that your Question was already answered in the Thread if you just took the time to look. It is called Common Sense

Haha...alright buddy, preciate the help

[Octoberist]

Halle Berry's career is not slipping, but outside of these X-Men boards, there's a hate/love relationship with her.

Alot of people that I know don't like her. The reason being....Catwoman and Die Another Day (remember that 'Jinx' spinoff that got cancelled?) But also alot of people who adore her as well.

I think Halle is still riding high, but I have to admit that Catwoman did tint her career (but not to the point of destroying her career). I saw Catwoman as a 'lesson', careerwise.

[Storm22]

For God's sakes....This is how I see it:

Brett Ratner kept saying that this is the last X-Men movie. Then Hugh Jackman said that this is his last X-Men movie (besides Wolverine). Then now Halle Berry said this is her last movie. Fox dubbed X3 "The Last Stand".

If people seriously think that there will be an X4, then I don't know what to say. Sure, "Never say Never" but the outlook for X4 is really really dim.

I agree. As I said I don't think it's just Halle's last X-Men movie, Jackman and the other principal characters have all been with X-Men for 6 years now so I'd say it's the end for them too.

[GothicPowerMix1]

I saw Catwoman as a 'lesson', careerwise.

A leasson career wise ? Do you realize Halle wanted to do Catwoman 2 instead of one of coming back for X-Men 2. What changed her mind I do not know & if Halle never got that awad & had to publically promise to NOT make Catwoman 2 oh she would have made Catwoman 2 after X-Men 3. That is without a doubt

[Handyman]

I hope Storm doesnt die - imagine getting a perfect interpretation and then killing/de-powering her.

lets not jump to any conlcusions - hugh jackman said it was his last x-film but we dont expect wolverine to be killed off after the spin off do we?

also, if anyone has the article could you pm it to me please?

[GothicPowerMix1]

also, if anyone has the article could you pm it to me please?

Dude we just freaking had a convo about when you would be able to read the article

[Kanon]

Just reposting the image...

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/967/wz175covers3ad.th.jpg (http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/967/wz175covers3ad.jpg)

The magazine is out in May so you'll see the interview then.
It says "on sale Tomorrow" :confused: I think it's common in the US to put the cover date a few months in advance...

[Octoberist]

I agree. As I said I don't think it's just Halle's last X-Men movie, Jackman and the other principal characters have all been with X-Men for 6 years now so I'd say it's the end for them too.

I kept on saying that some of these actors don't want to do X-Men forever. That's reality.

"What about Star Trek?"

With Star Trek, most of the actors didn't do anything big outside of that franchise.

X-Men is filled with big stars, legends, and up-and-commers.

The only reason why I want an X4 is because of Gambit, and it does make me made that Kinberg, Penn, and Arad decided against him For what reason I don't know. And the excuse of "Gambit deserves more than a camero' doesn't work for me. You guys are the friggin' writers; they decided to have Quill in the movie. Quill!?! Of all people! :o

[JustABill]

What was going on in the mind of Halle at the time of Catwoman is anyone's guess? She probably felt the need for a little difference in her career and wanted a less serious comic fair, and to her Catwoman looked like that, she filmed the role/movie, and then had to publically hype it as she was the star, doesn't mean she liked the movie after it was finished, she could have very well hated it, so of course, she would make comments about stuff like ''wanting to do Catwoman 2" .

She's surely not going to say...''This film sucks. Don't see it."

[Lightning Strykez!]

So...has anyone actually read this article? Or have these 4 pages been spent speculating on a singular statement in the article? :cool:

[GothicPowerMix1]

So...has anyone actually read this article? Or have these 4 pages been spent speculating on a singular statement in the article? :cool:

Why would Wizard lie on their own Cover :confused:

[Storm22]

We're speculating on speculation! Ha.

[green]

So...has anyone actually read this article? Or have these 4 pages been spent speculating on a singular statement in the article? :cool:


Well duh, what fun is it if we actually know facts?:confused:





:D

[Octoberist]

A leasson career wise ? Do you realize Halle wanted to do Catwoman 2 instead of one of coming back for X-Men 2. What changed her mind I do not know & if Halle never got that awad & had to publically promise to NOT make Catwoman 2 oh she would have made Catwoman 2 after X-Men 3. That is without a doubt

I think is that she wanted a franchise for herself so badly that it got destroyed with Catwoman.

Honestly, I don't mind Berry if she was Selina Kyle; a different take. But to make a completely new character not realated to Batman was such a turnoff! :o In many ways, it made her look bad. Then again, Clooney bounced back from Batman & Robin, and now he's a top dog in Hollywood.

But if a Catwoman 2 ever got made, then it'll be the death of all of us..

[GothicPowerMix1]

But if a Catwoman 2 ever got made, then it'll be the death of all of us..

& you know who would be the love interest ?

Tom ****ing Cruise :eek:

[Octoberist]

*Vomits*

[Vasilios]

Halle is out of the X-men films? There is a god. Thank you.

[snwboarder88]

But if a Catwoman 2 ever got made, then it'll be the death of all of us..

Unless they re-started the franchise...and had Selina kyle come back. The real catwoman, like from the Batman Returns movie...Michelle nailed that character. Thats one of my favorite things about the Batman franchise.

The only thing is now that catwoman was so bad, people would never give it another chance, even if they went back to Michelle.

[GothicPowerMix1]

The only thing is now that catwoman was so bad, people would never give it another chance, even if they went back to Michelle.

You don't know that. Michelle was a good Catwoman & People ALREADY KNOW THAT :up:

[snwboarder88]

Pretty much yeah...Michelle was amazing. It was a great performance. But everyone has heard about how bad catwoman was so they would already have preconceived notions toward this film.

[Octoberist]

Unless they re-started the franchise...and had Selina kyle come back. The real catwoman, like from the Batman Returns movie...Michelle nailed that character. Thats one of my favorite things about the Batman franchise.

The only thing is now that catwoman was so bad, people would never give it another chance, even if they went back to Michelle.

I agree. But that won't happen for a while.

The only chance to see Selina Kyle again, is IF and Only IF she appears in Batman Begins 2 or 3. But I want her to be a brunette or black haired, like in the comics. Why, because they're hotter than blondes!

[FieryBalrog]

Yes, she was the star of both films. And no, they have not hurt her career as much as you are saying they did.

She has since Catwoman had projects built around her on and off, sure the status of these projects seems to be up in the air. She's still the most sought after black actress in Hollywood. Directors are still going to hire for quite some time, ever actor/actresses has flops under their belt.

Halle gets 2 and it ruins her career? Hell, Nicole Kidman/Tom Cruise/Julia Roberts/Reese Witherspoon/Other A Listers have more than that and they are still going strong. Catwoman and Gothika HAVE not destroyed Halle's career, her career is not slipping.

Don't exaggerate, I didnt say they "destroyed" her career. But I do think they caused it to falter.

[GothicPowerMix1]

This

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7076/michelle013xq.jpg

VS

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4327/catwomanoct72eh.jpg

Yeah if Michelle were ever to do a Catwoman Movie I know I am all for it

[Octoberist]

I still think people are forgeting Die Another Day. I have to say, that her dialogue was awful.

[Octoberist]

This

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7076/michelle013xq.jpg

VS

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4327/catwomanoct72eh.jpg

Yeah if Michelle were ever to do a Catwoman Movie I know I am all for it

Halle's costume was really tacky looking. :o

On the other hand, Michelle's costume was damn sexy! :eek:

[Electrix]

'I think I got the thrust of it'

Its all James Bond style talk.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Halle's costume was really tacky looking. :o

On the other hand, Michelle's costume was damn sexy! :eek:

I'll see if I can find better Pictures of Michelle in Costume

[FieryBalrog]

Pretty much yeah...Michelle was amazing. It was a great performance. But everyone has heard about how bad catwoman was so they would already have preconceived notions toward this film.

yea, that was one thing that actually annoyed me about Catwoman. It sucked so much that there's just about no chance of seeing a Pfeiffer-esque Selina Kyle movie anymore, at least not for 15+ years.

I loved her take on Catwoman. I had never even heard of the character before, but Michelle really put her on the radar.

[MoreCowbell]

We'll, the good news is Halle is easily replaced. The only man who can't is Wolverine. Jackman has that locked up... Ian and Patrick are close seconds, however the show could go on without their characters.

I liked to see Jada Pinkett Smith as Storm personally. I think she can play a strong character.

[Electrix]

They wont be re-casting anytime soon.

[GothicPowerMix1]

We'll, the good news is Halle is easily replaced. The only man who can't is Wolverine. Jackman has that locked up... Ian and Patrick are close seconds, however the show could go on without their characters.

I liked to see Jada Pinkett Smith as Storm personally. I think she can a strong character.

I don't think they should re cast. Sure while Halle as Storm is not that well liked to begin with but re casting Sequels has always been a BAD THING & would hurt the X Franchice no matter who they re cast.

[migs]

gothika was a horrific movie.

[Octoberist]

But Jada is too small.

[snwboarder88]

If you want sexy pics of Michelle check out this page

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194497

its all about BR

[Storm22]

Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman was THE best thing about Batman Returns!

[Octoberist]

WIth Batman Returns, Batman killed so many people. IT's a good movie, but I prefer Batman Begins or Batman 1989 over it.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman was THE best thing about Batman Returns!

I agree & it sucks Burton did not stay on since she lived at the end

[Lightning Strykez!]

What's with all of the character squads? Where's the originality? Avenging Angels? Gambit's Royal Flush? Phoenix Freaks?!?!?! The Storm Squad was the first one. What gives?


Well, you know what they say about imitation and flattery BP22. :cool:

[migs]

when does this article come out?

[snwboarder88]

I agree & it sucks Burton did not stay on since she lived at the end

Burton wanted to stay...WB said no, wanted a more kid friendly Batman...Burtons films were to violent for them

[Lightning Strykez!]

I liked to see Jada Pinkett Smith as Storm personally. I think she can play a strong character.

One of the biggest complaints about Halle as Storm is the fact that at 5'8/5'9 she isn't close enough to Storm's 5'11.

So what are you going to do with a pixie like Jada, who is barely 5 feet tall? :cool:

[Octoberist]

she's a midget.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Burton wanted to stay...WB said no, wanted a more kid friendly Batman...Burtons films were to violent for them

I am actually surprised after Burton left WB he never went to another Studio to do a Catwoman Movie with Michelle

[Storm22]

I am actually surprised after Burton left WB he never went to another Studio to do a Catwoman Movie with Michelle

Burton should definitely have persued a Catwoman movie with Michelle! He's the only one, having created Michelle's Catwoman, who could imo make a decent film about her.

[snwboarder88]

I am actually surprised after Burton left WB he never went to another Studio to do a Catwoman Movie with Michelle

They really should of. They left it open at the end of BR.

[tonytr1687]

Recasting is a bad idea for this franchise. So I just say dont include Storm should they make an X4. Explain that she left to Africa after Xaviers death (if he does indeed die) or something.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Burton should definitely have persued a Catwoman movie with Michelle! He's the only one, having created Michelle's Catwoman, who could imo make a decent film about her.

It sucks it can't happen now. Michelle is still hot :up: But we got all these rights & crap rules

[snwboarder88]

well imo wolverine, storm, pro x, all will not be in x4-6 due to their arcs being over. I dont agree with not including them at all, but that would give way to iceman, rogue, gambit, angel, kitty, beast all being the key characters in the new triology.

this would also solve the problem of getting the big name actors back for another series or triologys.

[JustABill]

Hell, I even formed the Bamfers with Tsunulia. Haha.

[WorthyStevens]

What's with all of the character squads? Where's the originality? Avenging Angels? Gambit's Royal Flush? Phoenix Freaks?!?!?! The Storm Squad was the first one. What gives?

What's wrong with other characters having their own fan groups?

And you forgot Cyclops Fans United. ;) :D

[GothicPowerMix1]

New Trilogy Mutants

X-Men

Gambit
Beast
Angel
Colossus
Rogue
Ice Man
Kitty
Jubilee

Brotherhood

Pyro
Juggernaught
Archlight

& hmmm not sure about this list

& who says Characters from X1 & X2 can not come back ?

For examble Nightcrawler could return

[JustABill]

Catwoman started out as a Selina Kyle film....starring Michelle, then around the time Ashley Judd came around it was a Patience Price/Phillips deal, then finally Halle came around, so that's why I say that production was doomed before Halle even stepped foot into the role.

[cookiva]

anyone still have the pic of the cover?

[MoiBijou]

Hey, Storm is not the only one who deserves a fan club... ;)

[miketx]

Given the current trend with female lead action movies also, I'd say she'll definitely steer clear of a Storm spin off. As much of a Storm fan that I am, I'm also not sure a whole movie about her would work.

not if they go with a movie based on the new comic series i think that would work

[FieryBalrog]

well, we wont know Storms full potential until we see it I guess, and until I do I think God-Cable, Shaman-Nate, Apocalypse etc are more powerful.

[Maze]

What's wrong with other characters having their own fan groups?

And you forgot Cyclops Fans United. ;) :D
:cool::up:







:D

[HandOfFate]

Yeah but the nature of thier powers makes them a have an advantage over her.

It depends on how you look at it because I have never seen Nate, Cable or Apocalypse manipulate energy from stars. Now, I'm not saying the first two couldn't do it.

And besides when it comes down to it Storm can do amazing things, but she always passes out or gets really tired.

That's not 100% true. When Storm went slightly crazy during the Doctor Doom story her power level where greatly increasing without any indication of tiring.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/spotlight/storm15.jpg

well, we wont know Storms full potential until we see it I guess, and until I do I think God-Cable, Shaman-Nate, Apocalypse etc are more powerful.

True.

You know what's odd, I have never really been impressed by Apocalypse. Other then get really storng or shape-shift, what has he really done to be consider an all-powerful mutant.

[javon]

Me personally, I think storm can posess powers greater than lots of people we have seen (such as apocalypse,nate, and cable). And HandOfFate is right, we don't know the full potentyial pf storms powers.

[FieryBalrog]

not if they go with a movie based on the new comic series i think that would work

about her getting married? :confused:

[javon]

Yeah, the Storm origin was in the novelization and it was pretty interesting... she's a child getting picked on in her village in Africa when she gets mad and it starts a hailstorm that destroys the entire village... that's when her hair turned white too.

I also liked Cyclops' intro, using the bathroom set that was recycled for X2. "Hey Scott, man, are you alright? Your eyes are red. I mean really red, pupils and everything."

Where did you get that?

[miketx]

no about her journey with blackpanther

[xmen-rox!]

i would want prof x cyclops and jean staying and storm wolvie to leave if they do an X4!!

[lordofthenerds]

Now I pretty much know that there wont be an X4 for at least the next ten years.

[JokerNick]

Halle berry looks like she's getting to big for her britches, name one movie that she was the lead and her presence alone drove that movie to succsess, the only movies besides X-Men, where she gets praised is the one's she gets naked in. Gothica, Catwoman, any movie where she is the lone star BOMBS!!! she does not have an A list presence like Charlize Theoron, where she can sell a movie with just her, she needs an cast of great actors, alla X-men, to make her seem good.....

[lordofthenerds]

Halle berry looks like she's getting to big for her britches, name one movie that she was the lead and her presence alone drove that movie to succsess, the only movies besides X-Men, where she gets praised is the one's she gets naked in. Gothica, Catwoman, any movie where she is the lone star BOMBS!!! she does not have an A list presence like Charlize Theoron, where she can sell a movie with just her, she needs an cast of great actors, alla X-men, to make her seem good.....
...but that doesn't mean that she'll return. She barely returned for this movie.

[JustABill]

I'm not even touching that silly immature post. And when the hell did Charlize Theron become such a damn influence on everyone? She's good, but she's nowhere near as good as she's being raised up to be lately. :rolleyes:

[miketx]

didnt charizle theron do aeon fluex

[WorthyStevens]

didnt charizle theron do aeon fluex

It's best not to speak of that atrocity ever again. ;)

[lordofthenerds]

didnt charizle theron do aeon fluex
Yeah, but she also did Monster(where she was ugly as hell) and she won an award for it.

[JustABill]

Yes! She did Aeon Flux. And I hate how everyone just forgot it like she's still the best thing to happen to acting since the last best thing happened. She is not this best new thing everyone is making her out to be.

[FieryBalrog]

I dont really like Charlize Theron either. I think she's overrated. I think most A-list actresses and actors in Hollywood are overrated. And I think the Oscars are skewed, Best Actress towards overrated glamorous actresses in particular.

Its not as bad as the Grammies, but its getting there.

[Storm22]

i would want prof x cyclops and jean staying and storm wolvie to leave if they do an X4!!

Well thankfully not everyone's of that opinion!

[Maze]

Yeah, but she also did Monster(where she was ugly as hell) and she won an award for it.

yup , and she was great in The Yards too .

[kytrigger]

Yes! She did Aeon Flux. And I hate how everyone just forgot it like she's still the best thing to happen to acting since the last best thing happened. She is not this best new thing everyone is making her out to be.

I don't know why, but this line made me laugh for 5 minutes. :D

[Lightning Strykez!]

Halle berry looks like she's getting to big for her britches, name one movie that she was the lead and her presence alone drove that movie to succsess, the only movies besides X-Men, where she gets praised is the one's she gets naked in. Gothica, Catwoman, any movie where she is the lone star BOMBS!!! she does not have an A list presence like Charlize Theoron, where she can sell a movie with just her, she needs an cast of great actors, alla X-men, to make her seem good.....

Eh....

Ever seen the award-winning classic Introducing Dorothy Dandridge? What about Queen or more recently, Their Eyes Were Watching God (which broke television viewer ratings)? Even Gothika grossed $141 million versus a $50 million budget--and for a film performing in the horror genre, that's not a "bomb" by definition. Halle has carried films on her own--and been successful with it.

Her only true out-and-out failure was Catwoman, which came out 2 years ago.

[ts16]

People really need to drop the catwoman thing. Does anybody care that Charlize did Aeon Fluxx? nope, Does anybody remember the atrocity that is Elektra? didn't think so. Are people still ripping angelina for Tomb raider?...thats what i thought. Why is halle still recieving so much flack for something that happened over two years ago? Let it go already :o

[JustABill]

Hell! I have friends who are more talented actresses than Charlize. :o

[Lightning Strykez!]

And I think the Oscars are skewed, Best Actress towards overrated glamorous actresses in particular.


I've got to disagree with you there.

Hattie McDaniels and Whoopi Goldberg are the only other African-American actresses to win Oscars. Angela Bassett was nominated for Best Actress. These women are not necessarily drop-dead gorgeous, yet they won.

No offense (and I'm not referring to you actually), but I think the public's view of glamorous actresses is skewed. If you're beautiful like Halle, Charlize, Scarlett, Reese, etc., you can't possibly be "truly" talented by some people's standards. I guess ugly and/or round-the-way looking actresses carry more weight towards quality with some.

[Maze]

Hell! I have friends who are more talented actresses than Charlize. :o

lol send them to me , i need gorgeous talented girls for my brother 's movies ;)

[Maze]

People really need to drop the catwoman thing. Does anybody care that Charlize did Aeon Fluxx? nope, Does anybody remember the atrocity that is Elektra? didn't think so. Are people still ripping angelina for Tomb raider?...thats what i thought. Why is halle still recieving so much flack for something that happened over two years ago? Let it go already :o
;):up:

[WorthyStevens]

lol send them to me , we need gorgeous talented girls for my brother 's movies ;)

:eek:

I hope they're all over 18. ;)


:p

[JustABill]

It still has not sunk into me that Reese Witherspoon is now an Oscar winning actress. I was looking at the boxes for Legally Blonde and Legally Blonde 2 at work and I was like ''Wow, this chick won an award."

Not that I don't think she didn't deserve it. Just hasn't sunk in yet.

[Maze]

:eek:

I hope they're all over 18. ;)


:p

:o :eek: Of course!

Lol << do an edit :o :D

[FieryBalrog]

People really need to drop the catwoman thing. Does anybody care that Charlize did Aeon Fluxx? nope, Does anybody remember the atrocity that is Elektra? didn't think so. Are people still ripping angelina for Tomb raider?...thats what i thought. Why is halle still recieving so much flack for something that happened over two years ago? Let it go already :o

does anyone actually think Angelina Jolie can act?

[JustABill]

And my friends don't do that type of film, Maze. :p

[JustABill]

Me! I think Angelina can most certainly act. Even when the films she's in are pretty bad, she's consistently good in her performance in them.

[Maze]

And my friends don't do that type of film, Maze. :p
Lol f they are nitpicky with material like The Yards or Monster , hell , i wish her the best !

[Maze]

does anyone actually think Angelina Jolie can act?

Of course , she just need a director who "push" her above her "limits" .

[JustABill]

Lol. Now, they might do that type of film. :p

[ts16]

It still has not sunk into me that Reese Witherspoon is now an Oscar winning actress. I was looking at the boxes for Legally Blonde and Legally Blonde 2 at work and I was like ''Wow, this chick won an award."

Not that I don't think she didn't deserve it. Just hasn't sunk in yet.

I know, right? Apparently she's the highest paid actress out there right now. she signed on for some big budget thriller/horror and got a hefty 27 million for it :eek: (I see she's keeping with oscar tradition and going the hollywood route hah) Im sure it'll sink in when her other movies come out, which will inevitably be advertised with the "Starring oscar winner Reese Witherspoon" :p

[Maze]

Lol. Now, they might do that type of film. :p
done deal:)

casting time!:up:

(Bill , screenwriter , and casting agent ! Lol)

[JustABill]

I'm also an aspiring actor me self. :p

[javon]

I know many of you guys probably have already seen these, but i got bored,Lol. Thyeir over at xmenfilms.

http://public.fotki.com/x3movie/fan_art/

[Maze]

I'm also an aspiring actor me self. :p

lol Bill ,odd-job man ! :up: (that's how you say it in english? :o lol )

[JustABill]

Lol. What can I say? I was born with gifts.

No, that's not me being cocky....okay....slightly me being cocky. :o

[Maze]

Lol. What can I say? I was born with gifts.

No, that's not me being cocky....okay....slightly me being cocky. :o
Lol you are like a Halle Berry male!

Yup , let's stay in topic :D

[Handyman]

A thousand apologies guys - i saw the title, couldnt see a picture (just a frog for some reason) and assumed the article was already out.

If it is the last movie for everyone then i am fine but another x-men movie without storm in some capacity or other? not a good idea in my book!

[Slim_X]

I think there's still chance she'll do a 4th movie.

And lol at the SR cover :D

[JustABill]

The cover looks freaking retarded. God, I hate Routh.

And Bosworth as Lois? Don't even get me started. Not a big Supes fan, hell, not really one at all, but I can tell you that THAT is just not right. :o

[Exile]

I have a feeling after X3 that people will not be able to imagine an X4 without Ororo Monroe in it...:)

[JokerNick]

Eh....

Ever seen the award-winning classic Introducing Dorothy Dandridge? What about Queen or more recently, Their Eyes Were Watching God (which broke television viewer ratings)? Even Gothika grossed $141 million versus a $50 million budget--and for a film performing in the horror genre, that's not a "bomb" by definition. Halle has carried films on her own--and been successful with it.

Her only true out-and-out failure was Catwoman, which came out 2 years ago.

and what about "the last boyscout, or Swordfish, or the Flintstones" Give me a break, your examples of Halle doing great work is made for TV movies, and looking at the talent that goes into most of the 'made for TV films" yeah she probably is pretty decent, but on a hollywood movie standard she is not. I think she is gorgous, and she is talented, don't get me wrong, I've met her before, she is very nice (used to shop at the mall by my house when she was with Eric Benet), but when you compare her to such celebrities as Theoron, Julia Roberts, and other A listers, she is not that good (people go to movies to see those actors, Halle doesn't have that draw, yet).... if she wants to leave X-Men because she just feels the series can't go anywere further, great reason, but if she's sitting there thinking that she's too good for this type of movie, and that she needs her own movie where she is the lone star, she needs to think again, she owes alot to these films, and that's all I'm saying........

[JustABill]

Umm....Halle doesn't have that draw yet? Excuse me? Did I read that RIGHT?

I know people who hate Bond who saw Die Another Day, just for HER. I know people who wanted to see Catwoman just because she was in the leading role. I know people who actually would probably say....''Where's Halle?" if an X4 happened without her.

Unfortunately again, you are wrong. Halle does indeed have that draw. That's the reasoning behind the fact that Singer even casted her as Storm in the first place. He wanted a marketable face. That's why on the DVD covers/promotional stuff, she was in the fore front. Because she does indeed draw people into theaters.

[taintedFB]

Honestly, I think Storm has had her moment to shine in X3, so its not a big loss. Besides, how many X-titles are out there without Storm. Astonishing X-Men, Uncanny X-Men, etc.. And they are doing just fine without her.

I don't think she should be killed, but I think its time to introduce new characters. I think Jean (if she survives) should return. MOST DEFINITELY, CYCLOPS, ICEMAN, ROGUE, COLOSSUS and KITTY should all be back for X4 and add to them GAMBIT and EMMA FROST (who could go from bad to good in X4). Cyclops hasn't had his moment yet and there are alot of storylines to explore with the character.

I'd like to see Halle in a quick cameo if they make X4, like Margot Kidder in Superman 3. Just a quick, "Ok, I'm off to Africa, or whatever" Or maybe a little video phone conference... Heck, even a picture on the wall or mantle, would be nice. I love continuity.

[cookiva]

Honestly, I think Storm has had her moment to shine in X3, so its not a big loss. Besides, how many X-titles are out there without Storm. Astonishing X-Men, Uncanny X-Men, etc.. And they are doing just fine without her.



Uncanny sucks, so no, they arent doing fine. Terrible plots/writing/art....

[Lightning Strykez!]

and what about "the last boyscout, or Swordfish, or the Flintstones" Give me a break, your examples of Halle doing great work is made for TV movies, and looking at the talent that goes into most of the 'made for TV films" yeah she probably is pretty decent, but on a hollywood movie standard she is not. I think she is gorgous, and she is talented, don't get me wrong, I've met her before, she is very nice (used to shop at the mall by my house when she was with Eric Benet), but when you compare her to such celebrities as Theoron, Julia Roberts, and other A listers, she is not that good (people go to movies to see those actors, Halle doesn't have that draw, yet).... if she wants to leave X-Men because she just feels the series can't go anywere further, great reason, but if she's sitting there thinking that she's too good for this type of movie, and that she needs her own movie where she is the lone star, she needs to think again

Where are you getting the idea that she wants to be the lone star from the statement: "This is my last X-Men Movie"? Aren't you stretching a bit with such assumptions? And did you really expect The Flintstones to be anything spectacular? It's a kid's movie. :o

By the way, according to Rottentomatoes.com the critics love Halle, Julia, Charlize, Nicole, etc all about the same--they all major hits and misses...and are graded similiarly.



she owes alot to these films, and that's all I'm saying........

In my opinion, she doesn't. She was a rising mainstream star long before 1999--and her lack of momentum in X1 did nothing to help her secure her Oscar win in 2002.

If anything the X-Men films have hurt Halle. Trust me, she was never maligned on the level she is now until she became associated with this character.

[Electrix]

http://www.latinoreview.com/images/upload/movieimages/movieimage_4740.jpg
http://www.latinoreview.com/images/upload/movieimages/movieimage_4741.jpg
http://www.latinoreview.com/images/upload/movieimages/movieimage_4745.jpg
http://www.latinoreview.com/images/upload/movieimages/movieimage_4750.jpg

[cookiva]

,.....

where did you get these?????

[Electrix]

http://www.latinoreview.com/filmpreview.php?id=23

narrows found them

[Specter313]

It still has not sunk into me that Reese Witherspoon is now an Oscar winning actress. I was looking at the boxes for Legally Blonde and Legally Blonde 2 at work and I was like ''Wow, this chick won an award."

Not that I don't think she didn't deserve it. Just hasn't sunk in yet.

Let's just hope she doesn't follow the curse where an actress who wins an Academy Award ends up divorcing her actor husband.

[cookiva]

sweet!

[Specter313]

It's best not to speak of that atrocity ever again. ;)

If people want to continually rip on Halle for Catwoman, then that's just as fair game.

[FieryBalrog]

Uncanny sucks, so no, they arent doing fine. Terrible plots/writing/art....

nothing to do with Storm though... Uncanny's sucked for a while. Its best arc was with Rachel (well, its worst one too).

[X-Maniac]

^ As 'leaked'/predicted, Callisto and Storm fight... looks like Roro is about to throw a punch...

If the comics are the direct reference, Callisto ends up stabbed and almost dead....

[Lightning Strykez!]

o_O

Wow...Callisto and Storm are actually going to go at it!

[FieryBalrog]

Umm....Halle doesn't have that draw yet? Excuse me? Did I read that RIGHT?

I know people who hate Bond who saw Die Another Day, just for HER. I know people who wanted to see Catwoman just because she was in the leading role. I know people who actually would probably say....''Where's Halle?" if an X4 happened without her.

Unfortunately again, you are wrong. Halle does indeed have that draw. That's the reasoning behind the fact that Singer even casted her as Storm in the first place. He wanted a marketable face. That's why on the DVD covers/promotional stuff, she was in the fore front. Because she does indeed draw people into theaters.

she draws them in largely on T&A factor. No one I know has ever gone to a movie to see Halle Berry act.

Also, Halle is a very prominent target, and she actively turns away quite a few people too.

[BBraddockLover]

this is not suprising

[Maze]

you remember what Ratner said? This stuff existed in the comic. I can justify and I literally have a book this thick (about 4 inches thick) of comic book references for every single scene in the movie. Something that happens, every scene in this movie exists somewhere in the comics.
what if Storm gain the leadership of the morlocks? :)

Anyways!:up:(hoping that the scene will be great of course ;) )

[JP]

You Halle fans are so damn sensitive.

[Inhuman63]

Those images are sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Thanks for posting them.:up:

[JustABill]

You Famke fans would be the same, my old friend. :p

[JP]

You Famke fans would be the same, my old friend. :p

Isn't it odd that I don't ever have to defend her?

[JustABill]

Storm looks like she's about to rip that *****'s eye out. :p

[JustABill]

Yes, but Famke isn't at the same celeb status as Halle, so she really hasn't been hit by public scrutiny as much.

Not many people even know who the ''chick that plays Jean Grey" is. I'd wish that'd change though, seeing as Famke is a damn fine actress in and out of this series.

[FieryBalrog]

Yes, but Famke isn't at the same celeb status as Halle, so she really hasn't been hit by public scrutiny as much.

Not many people even know who the ''chick that plays Jean Grey" is. I'd wish that'd change though, seeing as Famke is a damn fine actress in and out of this series.

Famke is a great actress. :)

[Slim_X]

That fight is gonna be amazing, I can see Callisto telling Storm that it's gonna be a fight without powers. Maybe Callisto is mad because Storm kicked her ass during the Jean neighborhood fight. :up:

[Electrix]

Revenge!

[JokerNick]

Where are you getting the idea that she wants to be the lone star from the statement: "This is my last X-Men Movie"? Aren't you stretching a bit with such assumptions? And did you really expect The Flintstones to be anything spectacular? It's a kid's movie. :o

By the way, according to Rottentomatoes.com the critics love Halle, Julia, Charlize, Nicole, etc all about the same--they all major hits and misses...and are graded similiarly.




In my opinion, she doesn't. She was a rising mainstream star long before 1999--and her lack of momentum in X1 did nothing to help her secure her Oscar win in 2002.

If anything the X-Men films have hurt Halle. Trust me, she was never maligned on the level she is now until she became associated with this character.

Go ask anyone what the remember Julia Roberts from, they'll say something like Pretty Woman or Erin Brockawhatever, Theoron, Monster or North Country, Halle Berry, she's the one that wanted Billy Bob to make her feel good?? The critcis reviewed her the same too huh, wow, because critcis are always right......... she is not that good, but you got some seriuos fever going on for this woman and it's clouding your judgement. Yes halle owes alot to these films, she probably owes two houses, 6 cars, and more Diamonds then Sierra Lionne to these movies...

[Slim_X]

She'll get ororowned! :mad: :up:

[Electrix]

Haha!

[Storm22]

How can Callisto fight without her powers though?? Hasn't she got super strength and agility or something?! She can't just turn that off.

[Electrix]

Thats twice people have gone for Storm's neck! Sabretooth did as well!

[Slim_X]

How can Callisto fight without her powers though?? Hasn't she got super strength and agility or something?! She can't just turn that off.
I think she can, at least she could in the comics. Even without powers she's a great fighter. I can't wait to see them fight. :D

[Lightning Strykez!]

I dunno know about anybody else but....

http://www.latinoreview.com/images/upload/movieimages/movieimage_4740.jpg

...there is something about chick catfights that are soooooo hot to me. :eek::up:

[LittleMissVixen]

YES!!! Storm vs. her rival Callisto!!! I hope she takes her eye out!!

[Storm22]

I asked Kinberg ages ago will the comic rivalry between Storm and Callisto be incorporated into X3 and he answered......drumroll......"sorry, spoiler" - I'm really beginning to think his "spoiler" answers mean something!

[Douces]

I think it's a wise move for Halle to move away from the X-men films. Most 40 year old actresses can't make a living off action movies.

[terry78]

http://storm712.tripod.com/images/themes/scal.jpg

[josh8]

and what about "the last boyscout, or Swordfish, or the Flintstones" Give me a break, your examples of Halle doing great work is made for TV movies, and looking at the talent that goes into most of the 'made for TV films" yeah she probably is pretty decent, but on a hollywood movie standard she is not. I think she is gorgous, and she is talented, don't get me wrong, I've met her before, she is very nice (used to shop at the mall by my house when she was with Eric Benet), but when you compare her to such celebrities as Theoron, Julia Roberts, and other A listers, she is not that good (people go to movies to see those actors, Halle doesn't have that draw, yet).... if she wants to leave X-Men because she just feels the series can't go anywere further, great reason, but if she's sitting there thinking that she's too good for this type of movie, and that she needs her own movie where she is the lone star, she needs to think again, she owes alot to these films, and that's all I'm saying........

i dont think she's the best out there at all, but you're probably wrong when you say she doesnt have the draw of A-listers. since becoming an A-lister, she's had a very good track record. (and yes, gothika was a critical failure, but a huge box office success, which in the end is all that's important to the studios.)

catwoman is her big failure. i think it made $80 million worldwide vs a production/marketing budget of about $130 million. from commercials and trailers, i think the general consensus (before it came out) was that it was absolute crap. yet some people still came out to see it. in the US it was about $40 million. that's a good amount of money for something that looked like the next 'pluto nash'. so arguably, she is a box office draw.

and LS, you know she's not 5'8" / 5'9". you're much more credible when you tell the truth in your facts (which you usually do, so i'm confused by why you didnt here). i've seen you post that she's 5'7". from the pics, i think that's even being generous. i'd say she's 5'6" to 5"7'

[FieryBalrog]

i dont think she's the best out there at all, but you're probably wrong when you say she doesnt have the draw of A-listers. since becoming an A-lister, she's had a very good track record. (and yes, gothika was a critical failure, but a huge box office success, which in the end is all that's important to the studios.)

catwoman is her big failure. i think it made $80 million worldwide vs a production/marketing budget of about $130 million. from commercials and trailers, i think the general consensus (before it came out) was that it was absolute crap. yet some people still came out to see it. in the US it was about $40 million. that's a good amount of money for something that looked like the next 'pluto nash'. so arguably, she is a box office draw.

and LS, you know she's not 5'8" / 5'9". you're much more credible when you tell the truth in your facts (which you usually do, so i'm confused by why you didnt here). i've seen you post that she's 5'7". from the pics, i think that's even being generous. i'd say she's 5'6" to 5"7'

since when was Gothika a "huge success"? A film is generally considered a flop unless it makes twice production costs domestically.

These are domestic numbers:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/gothika/numbers.php

Box Office Total: $59,537,388
Box Office Opening: $19,288,438
No. of Weeks in Top 10: 4
Highest Ranking: 2


BOX OFFICE HISTORY
Week Rank Wkd. Gross Theaters Per Theater Cumulative
Week #1 2 $19,288,438 2,382 $8,098 $19,288,438
Week #2 4 $12,868,471 2,382 $5,402 $41,277,711
Week #3 7 $5,250,356 2,205 $2,381 $49,545,578
Week #4 10 $2,725,221 1,806 $1,509 $53,933,915
Week #5 13 $1,230,085 1,055 $1,166 $56,099,360
Week #6 23 $607,029 406 $1,495 $57,455,180
Week #7 27 $375,661 406 $925 $58,224,334
Week #8 32 $210,845 208 $1,014 $58,567,691
Week #9 40 $137,649 137 $1,005 $58,771,320
Week #10 47 $75,230 107 $703 $58,880,800
Week #11 49 $44,932 73 $616 $58,954,156
Week #12 36 $147,271 255 $578 $59,120,532
Week #13 41 $119,376 207 $676 $59,325,825
Week #14 42 $95,182 169 $563 $59,453,918
Week #15 50 $49,537 145 $342 $59,537,388

VHS Rentals Total: $7,370,000
VHS Rentals Opening: $2,540,000
No. of Weeks at #1: 1
No. of Weeks in Top 10: 5


VHS RENTAL HISTORY
Week Rank Gross Cumulative
Week #0 1 $2,540,000 $2,560,000
Week #0 2 $1,840,000 $4,410,000
Week #0 4 $1,360,000 $5,760,000
Week #0 5 $900,000 $6,670,000
Week #0 7 $700,000 $7,370,000


Cumulative Gross:
Total US Gross $59,588,068
Worldwide Gross $78,280,896
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2003/GOTHK.php

those numbers are pretty damn abysmal.

And by those standards Catwoman was a MASSIVE flop.

[weatherwitch]

Isn't it odd that I don't ever have to defend her?

No. The simple truth is no one cares that much about Famke. If I wanted to I could make several catty comments of Famke's "talent". Like how superb she was on Melrose Place, just peachy in Lord of Illusions, I can't say enough about The House on Haunted Hill, or her portrayl of Xenia Onatopp (not quite a Bond girl), oh and I Spy was a masterpiece of filmography and her acting **whoo**. Yes, definitely hired for her talent and not her t&a... :rolleyes:

[weatherwitch]

since when was Gothika a "huge success"? A film is generally considered a flop unless it makes twice production costs domestically.

And by those standards Catwoman was a MASSIVE flop.

Name any movie--aside from the X-Men films, that Famke has headlined...Hmmm, no? Ok, how about any that have been blockbusters? Still no. Hmmm...odd...

[weatherwitch]

and LS, you know she's not 5'8" / 5'9". you're much more credible when you tell the truth in your facts (which you usually do, so i'm confused by why you didnt here). i've seen you post that she's 5'7". from the pics, i think that's even being generous. i'd say she's 5'6" to 5"7'

Halle's a solid 5'7".

[PhoenixRise]

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/uncanny/uncanny170.jpg

[Storm22]

I'd prefer if they both fought using their powers and then Callisto using her agility just managed to get close enough to Storm to initiate hand to hand combat.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Go ask anyone what the remember Julia Roberts from, they'll say something like Pretty Woman or Erin Brockawhatever, Theoron, Monster or North Country, Halle Berry, she's the one that wanted Billy Bob to make her feel good?? The critcis reviewed her the same too huh, wow, because critcis are always right......... she is not that good, but you got some seriuos fever going on for this woman and it's clouding your judgement. Yes halle owes alot to these films, she probably owes two houses, 6 cars, and more Diamonds then Sierra Lionne to these movies...

So because my opinion differs from yours I have "clouded judgement" and "some serious fever going for this woman?" Could it be that my statements are backed up with reasonable support and you simply don't agree with them?

Be careful.

[Slim_X]

I dunno know about anybody else but....

http://www.latinoreview.com/images/upload/movieimages/movieimage_4740.jpg

...there is something about chick catfights that are soooooo hot to me. :eek::up:
Specially if Halle Berry is involved. Lets hope it's a great fight :D. Man, this made my day.

[terry78]

^I don't know who drew Storm on that cover, but goddamn. Butterface.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Halle's a solid 5'7".


I've seen sites list her at 5'8 and once even 5'9. Perhaps it's the modeling "add on an inch" rule in effect.

[gap5ewl]

it amazes me how everytime the name "halle berry" pops up in a thread, a new world war starts :rolleyes:


















but anyways this doesnt suprise me she might not return for x4. i really cant see the other actors (ian, rebecca, anna) returning for a forth either. Im just grateful halle returned for x3 and storm has a kick ass role.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Isn't it odd that I don't ever have to defend her?


There are reasons for that--and it doesn't have to do with acting ability either. But I digress.

[JokerNick]

it's funny how you can't openly critize her acting ability, as soon as someone does, people jump on you, even the people who monitor these boards, so the should just change the rules here, no porno, no cursing, no ripping on Halle Berry............. I take back all I said, she's the greatest thing since sliced bread....I'm a now converted Berryologist

[JP]

No. The simple truth is no one cares that much about Famke. If I wanted to I could make several catty comments of Famke's "talent". Like how superb she was on Melrose Place, just peachy in Lord of Illusions, I can't say enough about The House on Haunted Hill, or her portrayl of Xenia Onatopp (not quite a Bond girl), oh and I Spy was a masterpiece of filmography and her acting **whoo**. Yes, definitely hired for her talent and not her t&a... :rolleyes:

I didn't know Famke had t&a. . .

I can only name a few roles were Famke may not have been at her best. But even the worst movies, she always brings her top game. She never seems completely miscast, or sounds like a whiney cry baby. :rolleyes:

I don't see were popularity plays in. No one says anything bad about Hugh, or Ian, or Patrick. But Berry.. oh my. Why is it that so many people make these crazy accusations that she just might be.. hold on... a bad actress??? :eek: Jealousy! Pure and utter jealousy!!

God forbid there be an actual reason.

[Logan Howlett]

http://www.latinoreview.com/images/upload/movieimages/movieimage_4740.jpg






YA THATS RIGHT! CHOCKE THAT *****! YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN CATWOMAN! ME-Fu**in-OW B**CH!

[josh8]

since when was Gothika a "huge success"? A film is generally considered a flop unless it makes twice production costs domestically.

you're completely wrong there. by your definition, 99 percent of movies are flops, inculding X2.

a movie is considered an outright SUCCESS if it makes twice it's budget. but if it doesnt, it isnt a immediately considered a failure. i dont know what that rule is called (where the opposite is not the same as the original statement), but you're making the mistake as many do.

gothika made $140 million worldwide vs a production and marketing budget of $60 million. after counting in dvd sales and subtracting the cost of film and dvd prints, it becomes a huge financial success.

and i never said catwoman wasnt a flop. i just said it could've been worse. by all rights, it didnt even deserve to make as much as it did, but it did because of halle.

[Lightning Strykez!]

http://www.latinoreview.com/images/upload/movieimages/movieimage_4741.jpg

Notice the red tape on her thumb. I'm calling it now: what we saw in the trailer is not the final SFX for this scene. I think a full-fledged lightning bolt will fire directly from her hand here.

[JustABill]

Ackhem. Halle becomes a bad actress, the day hell has froze over. She like everyone in the biz has done bad movies, but...she's truely shined in a majority of a her roles.

The fact is...Halle Berry is the biggest name in these films, that and another reason I have realized that I will not say, are why she is so scrutinzed compared to the others.

[Logan Howlett]

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/uncanny/uncanny170.jpg




Do you remember when they had that fight in the cartoon show? They had freakin lightsabres! LOL!

[josh8]

I didn't know Famke had t&a. . .

I can only name a few roles were Famke may not have been at her best. But even the worst movies, she always brings her top game. She never seems completely miscast, or sounds like a whiney cry baby. :rolleyes:

I don't see were popularity plays in. No one says anything bad about Hugh, or Ian, or Patrick. But Berry.. oh my. Why is it that so many people make these crazy accusations that she just might be.. hold on... a bad actress??? :eek: Jealousy! Pure and utter jealousy!!

God forbid there be an actual reason.

well, i think they're trying to say that famke doesnt need to be defended because no one is talking about her, plain and simple. she just isnt well-known enough to gossip about.

and gossip/rumors are where all the debate stems from, whether warranted or not.

[Storm22]

http://www.latinoreview.com/images/upload/movieimages/movieimage_4741.jpg

Notice the red tape on her thumb. I'm calling it now: what we saw in the trailer is not the final SFX for this scene. I think a full-fledged lightning bolt will fire directly from her hand here.

I think that's a light in the background no?

[tonytr1687]

you're completely wrong there. by your definition, 99 percent of movies are flops, inculding X2.

it's considered an outright success if it makes twice it's budget. but if it doesnt, it isnt a immediately considered a failure. i dont know what that rule is called (where the opposite is not the same as the original statement), but you're making the mistake as many do.

gothika made $140 million worldwide vs a production an marketing budget of $60 million. after counting in dvd sales and subtracting the cost of film and dvd prints, it becomes a huge financial success.

and i never said catwoman wasnt a flop. i just said it could've been worse. by all rights, it didnt even deserve to make as much as it did, but it did because of halle.

By industry standards a movie is considered at least a modest success if it recoups its production budget domestically. So therefore Gothika was a modest success but Catwoman was an outright flop since it made only 40 mil on a 100 mil budget.

[FieryBalrog]

Name any movie--aside from the X-Men films, that Famke has headlined...Hmmm, no? Ok, how about any that have been blockbusters? Still no. Hmmm...odd...

is anyone claiming Famke is an A-list actress? :confused:

Since when do you have to be A-list to be any good, anyway? Maggie Gyllenhall is one of my favorite actresses, and she'd never open her own big budget movie. Indie is good. Indie kicks ass.

[Lightning Strykez!]

it's funny how you can't openly critize her acting ability, as soon as someone does, people jump on you, even the people who monitor these boards, so the should just change the rules here, no porno, no cursing, no ripping on Halle Berry............. I take back all I said, she's the greatest thing since sliced bread....I'm a now converted Berryologist


Not at all. I'm all for debate. Rip on Halle--your posts are not being deleted or edited for doing so.

But don't liken me to a blind fanboy just because you don't agree with my assessment of certain matters. When you do that, you're insulting my level of intelligence--not as a mod, but as a person.

And if I recall correctly, I didn't make mincemeat of you for disagreeing with me. Respect should go both ways.

[Optic Rage]

Yes that does tend to get quite annoying...if your dont like her your a rasict[yes i was called that after i said i didnt like her as storm and would rather Angela basset...and i was called a rasicst jeez] or a hater or whatever.

Maybe people dont like her because in there eyes she is not a great actor....simple as that.

[FieryBalrog]

well, i think they're trying to say that famke doesnt need to be defended because no one is talking about her, plain and simple. she just isnt well-known enough to gossip about.

and gossip/rumors are where all the debate stems from, whether warranted or not.

so why is no one is gossiping about Patrick Stewart or Ian McKellen :confused:

[GoldGoblin]

I'm glad Halle doesn't want to do an X-4,someone else can get her spot light.

[JustABill]

Callisto: I'm going to take you out, weather witch -grabs neck-
Storm: Honey, you so don't wanna know what happen to the last person that grabbed my neck. -punches-

[Specter313]

is anyone claiming Famke is an A-list actress? :confused:

Since when do you have to be A-list to be any good, anyway? Maggie Gyllenhall is one of my favorite actresses, and she'd never open her own big budget movie. Indie is good. Indie kicks ass.

And Kinberg said in one of his Q&A responses that Famke liked doing the more small time indie stuff.