"By The Goddess": The Official Storm/Halle Berry Discussion

[Goddessreicho]

Ditto, I wanna see!

[LittleMissVixen]

http://www.comicon.com/pulse/images_05a/0mangar4.jpg

[LEX]

Wow, I like it. :up: Storm looks awesome.

[LittleMissVixen]

Issues 1 & 2

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/May06/main/MARADVAV001_COVb.jpg


http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Jun06/MARADVAV002_COV.jpg

[JustABill]

Hmm. I like how she's got Carol's suit. It suits her almost better than it does Carol herself.

[LittleMissVixen]

I have to agree....it fits Storm better than Carol....but I also love Ms.Marvel in it....oy...I am so torn, lol ;)

[Lightning Strykez!]

The only reason it works is because of the big lightning bolt streaking down her chest.

[JustABill]

Lol. Might wanna fix those issue 1 and 2 pics, Missy. :p

[JustABill]

Now what would make you say a wild thing like that Caliph? :p

[LittleMissVixen]

oy....are they not showing up?

[LEX]

No hotlinking. Can't see pics.

[JustABill]

Yeah, says something about a comic messageboard.

[xstormfan]

what site did these pics come from???

[Retroman]

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4765/stormx3mothernature7xk.gif (http://imageshack.us)
it was only a matter of time before i made this...LOL!
That looks great!:up:

[LEX]

I see the pics now. Wow, ROLO teaming up. Nice. :up:

[Retroman]

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/9635/stormx24vh.jpg
Storm: Going somewhere Callisto?! I'm not finished with you!!


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7983/jugscallistosunfirearclight4bf.jpg
Callisto: Oh crap, it's Storm. Guys?
Juggernaut, Quills, Arclight:You're on your own Cal.
Callisto: Oh, sh**!

[LEX]

^Hee. :D

[Zahack]

yeah i would be scard to fight her too

[Sunstar]

WIZARD INTERVIEW.

...ON REFERRING TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL:


Q: After two films, do you stil refer to the comicbooks for reference or have you made Storm your own

A: I try not to because when i did the first film there were so many versions of who Storm is and so many different incarnations of her that I decided not to try and please everyone, but to try to read the script and sort of have a fundamental understanding of who i thought this character was and bring that to life, because at the end of the day, that's really all i can do if i want to do it with any success - sort of bring her to life as i see her. So, no. I don't really refer to the comicbooks very much.

I listen to what the fans tell me because they tell me all the time, whether i like it or not, and so i refer to what they say and take their advice and i hear them when they say: 'Storm should fight more. She was stronger than that in the comics. Tell them she needs to fly, because it's bull**** - she's not doing that'

So i definitely try to take their advice because i figure they know. Then I just try and do my work as an actor and interpret the words on the page in the script that i'm given.

You know i'm glad that Halle is at least trying to make sure her character is portrayed better and not pushed into the background like she was in X1 also the fact that she listens to what fans think of her portrayal of Storm is a bonus unlike James Marsden who doesn't give a ***** what happens to Cyclops!

[Sunstar]

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/9635/stormx24vh.jpg
Storm: Going somewhere Callisto?! I'm not finished with you!!


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7983/jugscallistosunfirearclight4bf.jpg
Callisto: Oh crap, it's Storm. Guys?
Juggernaut, Quills, Arclight:You're on your own Cal.
Callisto: Oh, sh**!

I think you should've put this message in the "Caption This" thread!

[Retroman]

I think you should've put this message in the "Caption This" thread!
Oh yeah, silly me.:O

[Retroman]

Heres a useless bit of X3 Trivia. Halle and Dania worked up a sweat with coach Ramona Braganza in Vancouver.

http://www.ramonabraganza.com/

[Lightning Strykez!]

I'm thinking we're going to see TWO face-offs between these women.

[Lightning Strykez!]

You know it just struck me that I was well over 15,000 posts here, but now I'm back to 14,931. What the.....:mad:

[Optic Rage]

What with this marvel all ages?

Is it canon?...because when the hulk gets back to earth...he aint gonna be working with the avengers..

[Iceman]

You know it just struck me that I was well over 15,000 posts here, but now I'm back to 14,931. What the.....:mad:

Does that mean we're about to see some lightning fast spamming take place? :p

[FRUITY]

I'm thinking we're going to see TWO face-offs between these women.

Maybe but in the teaser trailer it looks like she's fighting Quill and arclight in Grey's residence.

[LEX]

You know it just struck me that I was well over 15,000 posts here, but now I'm back to 14,931. What the.....:mad:
A thread was probably deleted with your 69 posts.

[LEX]

Maybe but in the teaser trailer it looks like she's fighting Quill and arclight in Grey's residence.
Ahem.

http://i2.tinypic.com/smamgj.jpg

:up:

[FRUITY]

Ahem.

http://i2.tinypic.com/smamgj.jpg

:up:

LS said two fights with Callisto, I think that's the only fight between these women. I could be wrong ofcourse.

[LEX]

Two fights? Well, we know that Callisto fights with Storm. And according to the set reports, Beast "deals" with Magneto and Callisto. Perhaps Callisto also fights Beast?

[Lightning Strykez!]

I think she'll lose one battle to Callisto--probably the first. And then redeem herself in the final conflict.

[FRUITY]

My guess, the Juggs would be facing off against Wolverine since we saw Wolvie and Storm arrived in Grey's manor, Storm would face Quill and Arclight while Callisto would sneak up somewhere taking care of something.

And later we get to see Callisto actually fights with Storm. Somewhat in a Mystique/Deathstrike way.

[LEX]

Storm fights with Quills and Arclight at Jean's and then Callisto comes in and knocks her out. Then in the final battle, Storm fights her again and Storm wins.

It seems a bit cliche, but I'd like to see that. :up:

[Electrix]

You know it just struck me that I was well over 15,000 posts here, but now I'm back to 14,931. What the.....:mad:

I lost a few hundred posts as well...just after the Storm thread merge...:confused:

[joshstorm]

can anyone PM the interview from Wizard that came out yesterday.

[Storm22]

It's posted in this thread, a few pages back.

[Angamb]

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8936/stormnubes22nc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Lightning Strykez!]

I lost a few hundred posts as well...just after the Storm thread merge...:confused:


Some threads must have been deleted. That's the only way posts dissapear like that.

[Electrix]

Oh right. Which thread have I posted in that has been deleted?...errm..probably one of them 'Movie Alphabet' things on Community.

[Retroman]

WIZARD INTERVIEW

...ON STORM IN X3

Q: How important to you was it for Storm to become a bigger, stronger part of this film?

A: One of the first things i said to Brett when he came on as director was: Listen, here's what the deal is with the fans. And i'm not asking for more screen time as Halle Berry, but if i have just ten minutes in the film, can they be ten good, strong minutes of doing something meaningful and important in the story?' And he said' 'Yeah' and i think he did that. I'm really happy about that.

Q: So we'll finally see Storm as more of the leader fans have seen in the comics?

A: I think this time around she's a little bit more opinionated and definitely has more of a point of view. You get to see more into her heart and soul of who she is. Of course, it's only a glimpse, but you learn something more about Storm in this movie. She's also more a part of the action of this movie, the combat. That was a big thing. i get to fly this time around.
Nice interview. Thanks for posting X-Maniac.:up:

So she never said this was her last movie after all.

[Tashe]

I can't see Storm loosing a fight against Callisto unless she is blindsided, which is not a fight but a hit and run, more like escape kind of thing. Who would buy that? And I would really not like it if it does happens, her loosing the first fight to win the second because it is like going back to those times to when ''she couldn't control it like that''. I mean, is she better or is she not?

Do I make sense?

[the a1ant]

I didn't get the issue yet....are there any new photos of Storm in it?

[X-Maniac]

Nice interview. Thanks for posting X-Maniac.:up:

So she never said this was her last movie after all.

Actually she did. I posted the interview in pieces. There is a section in which she says, basically, that this is it for Storm and for any more superhero movies for Halle. She hasn't ruled it out entirely, but she really cannot see herself doing spin-offs or an X4 or any other comicbook movies.

Although Storm is among my favourites, i think we'll be seeing Storm to the maximum in X3 and it probably is time to move on to other characters. Other big names can be brought into the franchise.

I think the danger is that people, including fans, will tire of seeing the same characters over and over again, even though they have done so much more in the comics.

[terry78]

Technically, she is one of the most powerful individuals in the Marvel universe, as controlling weather is not something to take lightly. Always wondered how she even got attacked period, what with the power she has. I just assume she gets caught off guard at times.

[taintedFB]

HALLE also didn't rule out coming back for another sequel. She said she doesn't know if she'd come back for a fourth, it would DEPEND.

I think if the script is good and the role is good, she'll be back. Especially if its Ratner at the helm. We'll see how successful X3 is first. It looks phenomenal, I just hope the script is as good as the last two films. (bad one-liners of the past are noted)

[Lightning Strykez!]

Well, the one thing the films got wrong was the insinuation that Storm needs "prep time" or to charge up prior to using her powers, or that she needs to be exposed to the literal sky in order to call down lightning.

Not so.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Actually she did. I posted the interview in pieces. There is a section in which she says, basically, that this is it for Storm and for any more superhero movies for Halle. She hasn't ruled it out entirely, but she really cannot see herself doing spin-offs or an X4 or any other comicbook movies.

Although Storm is among my favourites, i think we'll be seeing Storm to the maximum in X3 and it probably is time to move on to other characters. Other big names can be brought into the franchise.

I think the danger is that people, including fans, will tire of seeing the same characters over and over again, even though they have done so much more in the comics.


I honestly think that if X3's rendition of Storm goes over well, Halle will come back to this role--especially if Brett is directing again. I've learned not to put too much stock into her "This is my last one" statements, considering she's said it after each film now. :p

[TNC9852002]

Well, the one thing the films got wrong was the insinuation that Storm needs "prep time" or to charge up prior to using her powers, or that she needs to be exposed to the literal sky in order to call down lightning.

Not so.
Well, in the comics yeah, but I don't think they got it "wrong". I guess in a grounded reality where lightning, tornadoes, or wind needs to be gathered within the surrounding atmosphere, while Storm's powers are in effect, there should be a couple of seconds there to make it actually feel like there's some build up of energy.

It's also hard to determine if Storm actually needs to be exposed to the literal sky to call down lightning.

-TNC

[Lightning Strykez!]

Well, in the comics yeah, but I don't think they got it "wrong". I guess in a grounded reality where lightning, tornadoes, or wind needs to be gathered within the surrounding atmosphere, while Storm's powers are in effect, there should be a couple of seconds there to make it actually feel like there's some build up of energy.

It's also hard to determine if Storm actually needs to be exposed to the literal sky to call down lightning.

-TNC


Well, the films imply she does. When Sabertooth attacked her at the train station, she was not doing anything but hang there until Cyclops blasted a hole in the roof. That would suggest that she spent the interim time thinking about how she was going to get that guy off her...as he chokes her to death. :rolleyes: Then as soon as the roof is gone, she started charging up.

Ditto for when she fried Toad outside the Statue Of Liberty. Even in X2, she was near a large window in Nightcrawler's church.

So whenever she summoned lightning in the films, she needed to be near the actual elements to make it happen. This is a far cry from the comics, where Storm has been shown countless times with the ability to channel lightning through her body even in confined spaces.

[Storm22]

What about when she was inside Dark Cerebro though hmmm?

[philbo]

Ahem.

http://i2.tinypic.com/smamgj.jpg

:up:

Well it could always turn out that Storm kicks Quills and Arclight's asses at Jeans house....Callisto buggers off, and then they face up later. Seriously though dudes, i really don't think we're gonna see any eye-rippage coming out of this......the above scene i think is just one the many homage's to the comic. Saying that, if it does follow the comic even the slightest, then Storm better kick her ass!

Question; i'm a little vague on this- what are Callisto's and Arclight's powers again?

[Lightning Strykez!]

That's not a major deal breaker by the way. ;) Just an observation.

[Lightning Strykez!]

What about when she was inside Dark Cerebro though hmmm?

I don't recall her summoning lightning in Dark Cerebro? :confused:

[Storm22]

No, but she created wind and snow out of nowhere to freeze Jason.

[Lightning Strykez!]

No, but she created wind and snow out of nowhere to freeze Jason.


Well lowering the temperature is just another branch of her mutation. She wouldn't need to be outside to do that. Heck, even man-made HVAC (air conditioners) systems achieve the same feat indoors.

The air is considered an element. So as long as Storm has access to it, she can do something with it. But as far as lightning, the films suggested she can only draw that down from literal clouds outside.

[TNC9852002]

Well, the films imply she does. When Sabertooth attacked her at the train station, she was not doing anything but hang there until Cyclops blasted a hole in the roof. That would suggest that she spent the interim time thinking about how she was going to get that guy off her...as he chokes her to death. :rolleyes: Then as soon as the roof is gone, she started charging up.

Ditto for when she fried Toad outside the Statue Of Liberty. Even in X2, she was near a large window in Nightcrawler's church.

So whenever she summoned lightning in the films, she needed to be near the actual elements to make it happen. This is a far cry from the comics, where Storm has been shown countless times with the ability to channel lightning through her body even in confined spaces.
I'm aware of this..

You say, "channel lightning" through her body. So where does this lightning originate from?

-TNC

[Storm22]

Well lowering the temperature is just another branch of her mutation. She wouldn't need to be outside to do that. Heck, even man-made HVAC (air conditioners) systems achieve the same feat indoors.

The air is considered an element. So as long as Storm has access to it, she can do something with it. But as far as lightning, the films suggested she can only draw that down from literal clouds outside.

Good point! Having said that though, couldn't she just as easily create tornados without being exposed to the sky?? Does she only need access to the sky to summon lightning so?

[Lightning Strykez!]

I'm aware of this..

You say, "channel lightning" through her body. So where does this lightning originate from?

-TNC

From the air around her. Lightning is essentially concentrated electricity. Electrons--which are lightweight fundamental subatomic particles that carry electric charges--are in atoms. In fact, the flow of electricity is primarily due to the movement of electrons anyway.

So basically, wherever there are air particles, Storm should be able to manipulate the electrons within them.

EDIT: Obviously a lightning bolt would require a rod (conductor) to be channeled to and through, so this is where Storm's actual body comes into play.

;)

[HexualCirce]

She didn't summon it from the sky in the church

[TNC9852002]

Ok, here's where I'm at..

I can't say if the movies got Storm's powers "wrong" in the same sense that they got Wolverine's claws "wrong". I'm just saying, that Storm's powers as portrayed in the comics may be lending themselves some kind of creative liberties in the adaptation process. In these kinds of films where these mutant abilities are grounded (Xavier's psionic powers aren't shown in the film as bright flashes of yellow electricity), a few things might have to be scientifically connected within the realms of the fantasy of the movie. It's enough to show a woman summoning lightning from the sky, as that's where lightning is usually generated. Saying that she can't generate lightning just from the air around her in the movies is reminiscent of saying that Iceman can't ice up.

So, you can take your pick from that, but it's just what I'm thinking when you say that she can't do this or this is implied or she only needs this or something was done "wrong".

-TNC

[Lightning Strykez!]

Good point! Having said that though, couldn't she just as easily create tornados without being exposed to the sky?? Does she only need access to the sky to summon lightning so?


Micro-tornadoes yes. We've all seen mini twisters form in outdoor corners of buildings where "wind traps" can be found. So creating something like that wouldn't be difficult for her.

But if we're talking about something along the lines of what we saw in X2, then no....she'd need to be outside as a literal building space could not contain a storm of that magnitude.

[TNC9852002]

From the air around her. Lightning is essentially concentrated electricity. Electrons--which are lightweight fundamental subatomic particles that carry electric charges--are in atoms. In fact, the flow of electricity is primarily due to the movement of electrons anyway.
11th grade was fun for what it was... :p

-TNC

[Lightning Strykez!]

Ok, here's where I'm at..

I can't say if the movies got Storm's powers "wrong" in the same sense that they got Wolverine's claws "wrong". I'm just saying, that Storm's powers as portrayed in the comics may be lending themselves some kind of creative liberties in the adaptation process. In these kinds of films where these mutant abilities are grounded (Xavier's psionic powers aren't shown in the film as bright flashes of yellow electricity), a few things might have to be scientifically connected within the realms of the fantasy of the movie. It's enough to show a woman summoning lightning from the sky, as that's where lightning is usually generated. Saying that she can't generate lightning just from the air around her in the movies is reminiscent of saying that Iceman can't ice up.

So, you can take your pick from that, but it's just what I'm thinking when you say that she can't do this or this is implied or she only needs this or something was done "wrong".

-TNC

Well, that's just my opinion. And as I said, it wasn't a deal-breaker--just an observation. It's not "wrong" itself--it's obviously accurate that she can call it from the heavens. But that's not the only thing she can do--in other words, she shouldn't have been helpless in the intial battles with Toad and Sabertooth. Even without fists she should've been able to defend herself better than that.

It was almost as if her body came alive when that train station roof was blown off. Notice how Sabertooth's hair started to raise up with static along with her. Technically speaking she could've accomplished that without the sky being exposed:



That's one of the chief reasons so many have complained that Storm came across weak and mousy: it was done to fit the plot.

[chaseter]

Well, that's just my opinion. And as I said, it wasn't a deal-breaker--just an observation. It's not "wrong" itself--it's obviously accurate that she can call it from the heavens. But that's not the only thing she can do--in other words, she shouldn't have been helpless in the intial battles with Toad and Sabertooth. Even without fists she should've been able to defend herself better than that.

It was almost as if her body came alive when that train station roof was blown off. Notice how Sabertooth's hair started to raise up with static along with her. Technically speaking she could've accomplished that without the sky being exposed:



That's one of the chief reasons so many have complained that Storm came across weak and mousy: it was done to fit the plot.

Agreed. Storm can conjure powers in the movies while being inside. They went technical on this one. Lightning is negatively charged and contained in the clouds. Lightning, as well as all other forms of eletrcity wants to become grounded and flow to the positve enriched source...the ground. Right before lightning strikes, an invisible field travels from the clouds to the ground. To make a path so to say for the lightning to travel. Well, this path causes immense and harmless static electricity and will cause hair, grass, etc.. or anything else to stand on end. So, Storm is acting as a lighting conductor and that is why her and Sabretooth's hair stood on end.

[TNC9852002]

The general audience might not've understood what Storm was doing if they did not show the lightning through the roof the building for it would be the first time that they would've shown her doing it in the movie...Ultimately, it wouldn't have made much of a difference if the roof was blown off or not...

-TNC

[chaseter]

I think if she wanted to she could make it rain indoors using the mositure in the air and such....who knows???

[TNC9852002]

I think if she wanted to she could make it rain indoors using the mositure in the air and such....who knows???
I think she could, but it would probably be limited in some ways...

-TNC

[X-Maniac]

Okay, make way folks. Time for some science and some Storm explanations

Comicbook Storm generates her own electricity in order to shoot lightning. In the early issue where they were captured by Arcade, it says clearly that her mutant metabolism generates a positive electrical field from which she hurls lightning.

When the X-Men fought Alpha Flight, Storm stopped an out-of-control blizzard (generated mystically by Shaman) and was forced to tap into the 'electrical potential energy' of the earth. Later, the writers seemed to decide she always needed the earth's stored energy... when she destroyed that Brood alien inside her, she drew energy from the galactic core and it said this was the same process as when she controls the weather.

In the movies they made her a lightning rod rather than a direct lightning generator.

But this still means she must be able to generate some electrical charge in order to attract the lightning.

The process happening in a lightning strike are complex but, essentially, something becomes a target - usually a high point or something very conductive. Electrical charge builds up in the cloud, creating a massive differential between itself and the ground. Negatively charged electrons journey downwards towards the earth, pulling on the positively-charged ground - objects like buildings, trees, poles, people, even blades of grass all feel the pull of the electrons from above and send up little 'positive streamers' of electrical charge. The streamer that first reaches the downward flow of electrons creates a connection along which the lightning bolt flashes. Some of these positive streamers are visible as small bolts of lightning going upwards from trees or buildings.

A flash is anything from one million to 80 million volts, usually about 30 million.

In the movie, we see Storm charging Sabretooth so he will attract the lightning bolt down directly to him. The absurd part is that neither he nor his clothing were smouldering or burned afterwards.

The same happens in the scene with Toad. She creates a path for the lightning to come down and hit him. I think there were positive streamers of electricity going upwards from her hair and possibly also going up from Toad too (must rewatch it to check).

In that photo of her shooting lightning in X3, it looks like she is directing it rather than generating it... it comes from above, through her and then from her hands...which ties in with the previous movies...

So, movie Storm may not have metabolism that CREATES electricity. I am not sure. But the human nervous system is based on tiny electrical charges travelling along the nerve endings, so it's not too big a stretch, especially considering that Magneto's body has enough electricity in his nervous system to generate massive magnetic fields...

[Jan Irisi]

Okay, make way folks. Time for some science and some Storm explanations

Comicbook Storm generates her own electricity in order to shoot lightning. In the early issue where they were captured by Arcade, it says clearly that her mutant metabolism generates a positive electrical field from which she hurls lightning.

When the X-Men fought Alpha Flight, Storm stopped an out-of-control blizzard (generated mystically by Shaman) and was forced to tap into the 'electrical potential energy' of the earth. Later, the writers seemed to decide she always needed the earth's stored energy... when she destroyed that Brood alien inside her, she drew energy from the galactic core and it said this was the same process as when she controls the weather.

In the movies they made her a lightning rod rather than a direct lightning generator.

But this still means she must be able to generate some electrical charge in order to attract the lightning.

The process happening in a lightning strike are complex but, essentially, something becomes a target - usually a high point or something very conductive. Electrical charge builds up in the cloud, creating a massive differential between itself and the ground. Negatively charged electrons journey downwards towards the earth, pulling on the positively-charged ground - objects like buildings, trees, poles, people, even blades of grass all feel the pull of the electrons from above and send up little 'positive streamers' of electrical charge. The streamer that first reaches the downward flow of electrons creates a connection along which the lightning bolt flashes. Some of these positive streamers are visible as small bolts of lightning going upwards from trees or buildings.

A flash is anything from one million to 80 million volts, usually about 30 million.

In the movie, we see Storm charging Sabretooth so he will attract the lightning bolt down directly to him. The absurd part is that neither he nor his clothing were smouldering or burned afterwards.

The same happens in the scene with Toad. She creates a path for the lightning to come down and hit him. I think there were positive streamers of electricity going upwards from her hair and possibly also going up from Toad too (must rewatch it to check).

In that photo of her shooting lightning in X3, it looks like she is directing it rather than generating it... it comes from above, through her and then from her hands...which ties in with the previous movies...

So, movie Storm may not have metabolism that CREATES electricity. I am not sure. But the human nervous system is based on tiny electrical charges travelling along the nerve endings, so it's not too big a stretch, especially considering that Magneto's body has enough electricity in his nervous system to generate massive magnetic fields...


I think my brain just imploded........... :(

[weatherwitch]

Micro-tornadoes yes. We've all seen mini twisters form in outdoor corners of buildings where "wind traps" can be found. So creating something like that wouldn't be difficult for her.

But if we're talking about something along the lines of what we saw in X2, then no....she'd need to be outside as a literal building space could not contain a storm of that magnitude.

LS, are you high? I can't believe I'm saying this, but sweety, you're wrong. Storm does not need to be outdoors to manipulate the weather--in the movies or in the comics. The lightning thing was a little murky in the movies, but she created a bunch of twisters from the confines of the jet, she didn't need to go outside. And comic Storm can take a controlled environment and still make tornadoes, lightning, snow, hail, whatever. She can also create and control a tornado from miles away (X-treme X-men she even made her face appear in the funnel). So, uhm, no. No she wouldn't.

[X-Maniac]

I think my brain just imploded........... :(

And i was trying to make it simple!

That picture of her shooting lightning in X3 appears to show it travelling to her and being directed by her, rather than being created entirely by her.

In any event, she must be able to generate some sort of electrical charge in herself or others like Sabretooth to draw down the lightning.

[Jan Irisi]

And i was trying to make it simple!

That picture of her shooting lightning in X3 appears to show it travelling to her and being directed by her, rather than being created entirely by her.

In any event, she must be able to generate some sort of electrical charge in herself or others like Sabretooth to draw down the lightning.

It's ok...it's just that I graduated from college...uh....a long time ago. I haven't really had to use my brain since. :p

[javon]

Well, that's just my opinion.

It was almost as if her body came alive when that train station roof was blown off. Notice how Sabertooth's hair started to raise up with static along with her. Technically speaking she could've accomplished that without the sky being exposed:



That's one of the chief reasons so many have complained that Storm came across weak and mousy: it was done to fit the plot.

I totally 100% agree. Now their were a variety of things she could have done to defend herself: Like discharging the lightning from her body, reaised or lowered his body temperature and much much more. And toad was just rediculous how she didn't defend herself.

[Slim_X]

First pics of Halle in 'Perfect Stranger': http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=18420 :up:

[xwolverine2]

she looks wierd without her wig......

[TNC9852002]

And toad was just rediculous how she didn't defend herself.
Well if it makes you feel any better, Storm did kill Toad in the end,...

-TNC

[Kira]

First pics of Halle in 'Perfect Stranger': http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=18420 :up:

Prettyness. I heart her coat. But that hat must go. :D

[xwolverine2]

bruce willis is like the mona lisa.....you cant tell whether hes smiling sometimes or not

[TNC9852002]

bruce willis is like the mona lisa.....you cant tell whether hes smiling sometimes or not
LOL...I've been noticing that little smirk of his too for quite some time.. :p

-TNC

[javon]

LS, are you high? I can't believe I'm saying this, but sweety, you're wrong. Storm does not need to be outdoors to manipulate the weather--in the movies or in the comics. The lightning thing was a little murky in the movies, but she created a bunch of twisters from the confines of the jet, she didn't need to go outside. And comic Storm can take a controlled environment and still make tornadoes, lightning, snow, hail, whatever. She can also create and control a tornado from miles away (X-treme X-men she even made her face appear in the funnel). So, uhm, no. No she wouldn't.

Hmmmmm. Can you post that issue on her weatherwitch, i don't think i ever saw that one. But she can make the clouds shape into anything she wants.

[The Original Bamfer]

It's ok...it's just that I graduated from college...uh....a long time ago. I haven't really had to use my brain since. :p

OT: happy Belated Birthday! :D :up:


And, didn't Storm manifest some small, harmless lightning when she got really anxious/angry in X1 when she went after Toad? I know it was just in her eyes and her hair, but tis obvious, from that, that she could trigger it somehow within her...

[xwolverine2]

LOL...I've been noticing that little smirk of his too for quite some time.. :p

-TNC
its his trademark beleive it or not....lol!

[Jan Irisi]

OT: happy Belated Birthday! :D :up:


And, didn't Storm manifest some small, harmless lightning when she got really anxious/angry in X1 when she went after Toad? I know it was just in her eyes and her hair, but tis obvious, from that, that she could trigger it somehow within her...


Oh sure, remind me again what yesterday was.... :(

[The Original Bamfer]

Oh sure, remind me again what yesterday was.... :(

Eh, sorry. I hope you had a great day though. The family better o'treated ya well ;)

[Jan Irisi]

Eh, sorry. I hope you had a great day though. The family better o'treated ya well ;)


Well, the cake was good, all decorated with Hershey Kisses. :D

But my sister-in-law sent me anti wrinkle cream. :mad: That was thoughtful :rolleyes:

[Lightning Strykez!]

LS, are you high? I can't believe I'm saying this, but sweety, you're wrong. Storm does not need to be outdoors to manipulate the weather--in the movies or in the comics. The lightning thing was a little murky in the movies, but she created a bunch of twisters from the confines of the jet, she didn't need to go outside. And comic Storm can take a controlled environment and still make tornadoes, lightning, snow, hail, whatever. She can also create and control a tornado from miles away (X-treme X-men she even made her face appear in the funnel). So, uhm, no. No she wouldn't.

:confused:

I didn't say she did.

I said that the film insinuated she needed to be outside or exposed to the sky to summon lightning. As I told Storm22, she obviously has the ability to manipulate the weather inside a room, as illustrated by her feat in Dark Cerebro--where she was indoors.

I simply pointed out that a tornado on the size and magnitude of what we saw in X2 would obviously need to be generated from outside a building--F5's are generated from cloud mass naturally--so an edifice would not be able to house a windstorm of that size. I think you may be misunderstanding my post...dear. :cool:

[The Original Bamfer]

Well, the cake was good, all decorated with Hershey Kisses. :D

But my sister-in-law sent me anti wrinkle cream. :mad: That was thoughtful :rolleyes:

Haha, I'm sure you won't need it for a long while ;)


Storm's pretty mean, beating up pretty Callisto :p

[Jan Irisi]

Anti-wrinkle cream!!!! What an insult!!!!! *dabs some around eyes*


And...Storm certainly doesn't need anti-wrinkle cream, does she?

[Lightning Strykez!]

*gives Jan money for yesterday's event*

Pin it on your lapel!

*leaves* :p

[Lightning Strykez!]

By the way, I am loving all the anti-Hype Clique signatures. LOL!!!! :D

[The Original Bamfer]

By the way, I am loving all the anti-Hype Clique signatures. LOL!!!! :D

Wow! Jan and I have both independently created our own anti-group groups! That is incredibly ironic! :up:

[Jan Irisi]

*gives Jan money for yesterday's event*

Pin it on your lapel!

*leaves* :p

*takes money and tucks into cleavage* :D

[Kira]

*takes money and tucks into cleavage* :D

Classy. :D

[Jan Irisi]

Wow! Jan and I have both independently created our own anti-group groups! That is incredibly ironic! :up:


Oh shoot, now the anti-groups group is growing, and becoming a group of its own.

[weatherwitch]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/weatherwitch1/scan0001copy.gif http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/weatherwitch1/scan0006copy.gif

this is also the same issue she creates clothing from thin air (unstable molecules)-- X-Treme 31.

And, LS, reread your post, makes sense. Sorry. :p

[xwolverine2]

Oh shoot, now the anti-groups group is growing, and becoming a group of its own.
MWAHAHAHAH!...:mad:

[The Original Bamfer]

Oh shoot, now the anti-groups group is growing, and becoming a group of its own.

Hey, I made mine days ago... :p

[Jan Irisi]

Anti-groups groups......UNITE!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Original Bamfer]

(We so should)


(Did you know that if you put off topic statements in ()'s you won't get in trouble for... off topic-ness? :p)

[xwolverine2]

(We so should)


(Did you know that if you put off topic statements in ()'s you won't get in trouble for... off topic-ness? :p)
(but if you put everything you write in () then...)

YOUR SPAMMING:p

[Jan Irisi]

(oh, didn't know that)

Storm...yeah. Interesting discussion about lightning there.

[javon]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/weatherwitch1/scan0001copy.gif http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/weatherwitch1/scan0006copy.gif

this is also the same issue she creates clothing from thin air (unstable molecules)-- X-Treme 31.

And, LS, reread your post, makes sense. Sorry. :p

Did you find that pic on the internet? If so did you tell me where. And everytime i try to post a pic on her i click copy but the paste in shaded(you know what i talking bout'..lol)

[Angry Sentinel]

From the air around her. Lightning is essentially concentrated electricity. Electrons--which are lightweight fundamental subatomic particles that carry electric charges--are in atoms. In fact, the flow of electricity is primarily due to the movement of electrons anyway.

So basically, wherever there are air particles, Storm should be able to manipulate the electrons within them.

EDIT: Obviously a lightning bolt would require a rod (conductor) to be channeled to and through, so this is where Storm's actual body comes into play.

;) :up: ... And since we're having this little science lesson... Real lightning does not "strike" from the sky. Lightning actually travels from the ground up (the ground or metals therein, completes the circuit needed to produce the bolt). It is just the light given off by that charge that makes it appear to come down from the sky.

[chaseter]

Wow! Jan and I have both independently created our own anti-group groups! That is incredibly ironic! :up:
HAHA, anti group group. That is like on South Park when they had the dance off and the gothic kids only joined because they wanted to be non conformists of the other non confomists that didn't want to dance.

[chaseter]

:up: ... And since we're having this little science lesson... Real lightning does not "strike" from the sky. Lightning actually travels from the ground up (the ground or metals therein, completes the circuit needed to produce the bolt). It is just the light given off by that charge that makes it appear to come down from the sky.
You are right except for the fact that lightning DOES travel from the sky to the ground. All electicity wants to be grounded...therefore, it would make no sense for lightning to go from the ground to the clouds.

[weatherwitch]

Good call chaseter. There are actually four types of lightning: Cloud to sky, cloud to ground, intercloud and intracloud.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/weatherwitch1/4_types_of_lightning.gif

I'm a geek. Writing fanfic, I did some research... Long story short, lightning never travels from ground to cloud.

[weatherwitch]

Did you find that pic on the internet? If so did you tell me where. And everytime i try to post a pic on her i click copy but the paste in shaded(you know what i talking bout'..lol)

No, that pic is from the comic, I scanned it in.

You have to host your pics elsewhere for now. You don't have enough posts to add attachments. Try photobucket.com or imageshack.

[the a1ant]

Lol...i always love your avatars, weatherwitch :p

[chaseter]

Good call chaseter. There are actually four types of lightning: Cloud to sky, cloud to ground, intercloud and intracloud.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/weatherwitch1/4_types_of_lightning.gif

I'm a geek. Writing fanfic, I did some research... Long story short, lightning never travels from ground to cloud.
Yea I don't know what school Angrysentinel went to or what they are teaching there...:)

[xwolverine2]

Good call chaseter. There are actually four types of lightning: Cloud to sky, cloud to ground, intercloud and intracloud.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/weatherwitch1/4_types_of_lightning.gif

I'm a geek. Writing fanfic, I did some research... Long story short, lightning never travels from ground to cloud.
thank you for finally proving my theory..:up:

[chaseter]

thank you for finally proving my theory..:up:
I was with you and LS from the beginning...:up:

[weatherwitch]

Lol...i always love your avatars, weatherwitch :p

Why thank you!! :D LOVED that interview, btw. Will be commenting in that thread shortly.

[weatherwitch]

thank you for finally proving my theory..:up:

Which theory?? That I'm a geek? :p

[PWN3R]

Ha..lovin the avy WW!

[weatherwitch]

Ha..lovin the avy WW!

:D:D

I'm rather fond of it.

[Kira]

Watching this page reminds me of.... SCHOOL!?!

*runs away from the thread*






:D

[weatherwitch]

Watching this page reminds me of.... SCHOOL!?!

*runs away from the thread*






:D


**Chases Kira down, tackles and shoves lightning bolt up her a$$**

Now, you've been schooled.































;):D **hugs**

[FieryBalrog]

actually, AngrySentinel is right. Lightning travels from the ground to the clouds, in that the fork you see builds from the ground and goes up.

/science class

[weatherwitch]

actually, AngrySentinel is right. Lightning travels from the ground to the clouds, in that the fork you see builds from the ground and goes up.

Uhm, no wrong. Do me a favor and go check the NLSI or weather service sites. They have factual information regarding this stuff. The theory of ground to cloud was disproved years ago. :p

[Kira]

weatherwitch:

:eek:x100000000000000000000000

I have nothing more to say...






:D

[xwolverine2]

Uhm, no wrong. Do me a favor and go check the NLSI or weather service sites. They have factual information regarding this stuff. The theory of ground to cloud was disproved years ago. :p
I HEART U

[FieryBalrog]

Uhm, no wrong. Do me a favor and go check the NLSI or weather service sites. They have factual information regarding this stuff. The theory of ground to cloud was disproved years ago. :p

oh come on WW. Don't make me bust out the facts like we did with your hydrogen comment :p

I hate to do this to ya, but:
http://www.srh.weather.gov/srh/jetstream/lightning/lightning_faq.htm

Does lightning travel from the cloud to the ground, or from the ground to the cloud?An entire lightning strike employs both upward and downward moving forces. However, the return stroke of a lightning bolt travels FROM THE GROUND INTO THE CLOUD and accounts for more that 99% of the luminosity of a lightning strike. What we SEE as lightning does indeed travel from the ground into the cloud. Top (http://www.srh.weather.gov/srh/jetstream/lightning/lightning_faq.htm#top)

[weatherwitch]

I HEART U

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/weatherwitch1/blowkiss.gif Awww....:D

[weatherwitch]

oh come on WW. Don't make me bust out the facts like we did with your hydrogen comment :p

I hate to do this to ya, but:
http://www.srh.weather.gov/srh/jetstream/lightning/lightning_faq.htm

Does lightning travel from the cloud to the ground, or from the ground to the cloud?An entire lightning strike employs both upward and downward moving forces. However, the return stroke of a lightning bolt travels FROM THE GROUND INTO THE CLOUD and accounts for more that 99% of the luminosity of a lightning strike. What we SEE as lightning does indeed travel from the ground into the cloud. Top (http://www.srh.weather.gov/srh/jetstream/lightning/lightning_faq.htm#top)

Did you read your own definition there genius.

It strikes from cloud to ground, relays back up. By the time we SEE it it appears as though from ground up. THE RETURN STROKE!!! Read and comprehend.

[xwolverine2]

FROM THE GROUND INTO THE CLOUD and accounts for more that 99% of the luminosity of a lightning strike

^
i dont trust scientists that cant write properly!:down :mad:

[FieryBalrog]

Did you read your own definition there genius.

It strikes from cloud to ground, relays back up. By the time we SEE it it appears as though from ground up. THE RETURN STROKE!!! Read and comprehend.

I hate to school you in reading comprehension too, but if you actually read what I write:

actually, AngrySentinel is right. Lightning travels from the ground to the clouds, in that the fork you see builds from the ground and goes up.

[xwolverine2]

I HAVE VIDEO PROOF!!!
http://wvlightning.com/cgdesc.shtml

CLOUD TO GROUND!!!

[weatherwitch]

I hate to school you in reading comprehension too, but if you actually read what I write:

actually, AngrySentinel is right. Lightning travels from the ground to the clouds, in that the fork you see builds from the ground and goes up.

Here's a definition for you:
Lightning Facts

A short compendium of information about lightning.
A typical lightning flash lasts about a quarter of a second and consists of 3 or 4 individual discharges called strokes. Each stroke lasts a few ten thousandths of a second, although the visual appearance is longer. The "flicker" sometimes observed in lightning is due to seeing the actual strokes making up the flash.
A lightning stroke begins with a faint predischarge, called the leader, which goes from the cloud to the ground. The leader establishes a path for the highly luminous return stroke (what you really see) which propagates from the ground up to the cloud. The first stroke of a flash is usually preceded by a "stepped leader", so called because it appears to progress in discrete steps (about 100 segments, each 50 m long) from cloud to ground. The subsequent strokes are preceded by a "dart leader" which smoothly follows the path of the previous return stroke (and is about 10 times faster).



Lightning NEVER starts from ground to cloud. What we visually see is the return stroke. Lightning does not travel from the ground to the clouds!






For the record, no one changed my hydrogen facts. They are dead on accurate.

[xwolverine2]

let me recap!...

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5468/light21to.gif (http://imageshack.us)
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/6977/light16cj.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[FieryBalrog]

Here's a definition for you:
Lightning Facts

A short compendium of information about lightning.
A typical lightning flash lasts about a quarter of a second and consists of 3 or 4 individual discharges called strokes. Each stroke lasts a few ten thousandths of a second, although the visual appearance is longer. The "flicker" sometimes observed in lightning is due to seeing the actual strokes making up the flash.
A lightning stroke begins with a faint predischarge, called the leader, which goes from the cloud to the ground. The leader establishes a path for the highly luminous return stroke (what you really see) which propagates from the ground up to the cloud. The first stroke of a flash is usually preceded by a "stepped leader", so called because it appears to progress in discrete steps (about 100 segments, each 50 m long) from cloud to ground. The subsequent strokes are preceded by a "dart leader" which smoothly follows the path of the previous return stroke (and is about 10 times faster).



Lightning NEVER starts from ground to cloud. What we visually see is the return stroke. Lightning does not travel from the ground to the clouds!






For the record, no one changed my hydrogen facts. They are dead on accurate.

*sigh*

Why do you make it difficult for yourself?. No point in pretending you have a point when you dont.

From your OWN article:

The leader establishes a path for the highly luminous return stroke (what you really see) which propagates from the ground up to the cloud.

From what I said:
Lightning travels from the ground to the clouds, in that the fork you see builds from the ground and goes up.

[xwolverine2]

*sigh*

Why do you make it difficult for yourself?. No point in pretending you have a point when you dont.

From your OWN article:

The leader establishes a path for the highly luminous return stroke (what you really see) which propagates from the ground up to the cloud.

From what I said:
Lightning travels from the ground to the clouds, in that the fork you see builds from the ground and goes up.
:eek:

:daredevil :daredevil :daredevil :daredevil :daredevil :daredevil
*grabs fireybalrogs head and points it up(like in jurassic park)*

[chaseter]

*sigh*

Why do you make it difficult for yourself?. No point in pretending you have a point when you dont.

From your OWN article:

The leader establishes a path for the highly luminous return stroke (what you really see) which propagates from the ground up to the cloud.

From what I said:
Lightning travels from the ground to the clouds, in that the fork you see builds from the ground and goes up.
We aren't talking about luminosity...the electricity of the lightning travels from cloud to the ground. ALL ELECTRICITY FLOWS TO THE GROUND period polka dot.

[FieryBalrog]

We aren't talking about luminosity...the electricity of the lightning travels from cloud to the ground. ALL ELECTRICITY FLOWS TO THE GROUND period polka dot.

I dont know what youre talking about. All I know is what I'm talking about. But your reading comprehension comment was pretty funny, come on, in light of the fact that you didnt even read my post properly before getting all worked up :D

[weatherwitch]

*sigh*

Why do you make it difficult for yourself?. No point in pretending you have a point when you dont.

From your OWN article:

The leader establishes a path for the highly luminous return stroke (what you really see) which propagates from the ground up to the cloud.

From what I said:
Lightning travels from the ground to the clouds, in that the fork you see builds from the ground and goes up.

So how in the hell is angrysentinel right? Just because it's the visible portion in no way makes that statement correct. Lightning is lightning is lightning. So we are either in agreement that lightning strikes from cloud to ground, with the visible portion appearing to our slower eyes as ground to cloud, (and if that's the case, then quit arguing a point that I made three posts back) or you really need to go back to college (please tell me you've been or are attending college) and have this discussion again. I am not going to debate anyone who's only reference point is HS science.

As for schooling me, sweety, good luck with that. ;) :p

[chaseter]

I dont know what youre talking about. All I know is what I'm talking about. But your reading comprehension comment was pretty funny, come on, in light of the fact that you didnt even read my post properly before getting all worked up :D
I said nothing about reading comprehension....:confused:

[xwolverine2]

I dont know what youre talking about. All I know is what I'm talking about. But your reading comprehension comment was pretty funny, come on, in light of the fact that you didnt even read my post properly before getting all worked up :D
*cuts off fireybalrogs head, staples his eyelids open, and puts it in post #8852*

[YAVANNA]

where the heck have i landed into?!!:eek: this seems my science class:eek: :eek:

[xwolverine2]

where the heck have i landed into?!!:eek: this seems my science class:eek: :eek:
storm is a teacher too!

[Storm22]

It's kind of ironic, Storm is and always has been my favourite X-Men character but every since I was a kid I've had a thunder storm phobia(is there an official term for that?) I'm mostly OK with storms now but still get a bit freaked out during night storms, if I'm by myself! All these lightning illustrations reminded me of this phobia! I'm just greatful I don't live in America, I wouldn't have lasted with the amount of Storms you guys get!

[SilentType]

I was going to say that we don't get many thunderstorms where I am, but then I remembered my office got hit by lightening on Tuesday.

[Storm22]

See I don't know what freaks me out more - thunder or lightning. Last year lightning hit our house and sent an electrical surge straight into the DVD player, so annoying!

[Halcohol]

A few weeks ago I was having a shower when my house got hit by lightning... now I can hear what women think ;)

[SilentType]

Now you can learn a life lesson and stop being a sexist pig.

[The Original Bamfer]

A few weeks ago I was having a shower when my house got hit by lightning... now I can hear what women think ;)




















I admire your name... :o

[The Original Bamfer]

Now you can learn a life lesson and stop being a sexist pig.


STING!!!

[DarknessOfDeath]

I voted for tidal wave LOL... I wished I voted for Storm's battle in Jean's Neighbourhood (another scene im looking forward to).

[The Original Bamfer]

I know the tidal wave is a part of her power... you know weather pulling and crap... but it seems like such a departure from her established abilities... and could confuse some non-X and non-science movie-goers...

[RagingTempest]

It's kind of ironic, Storm is and always has been my favourite X-Men character but every since I was a kid I've had a thunder storm phobia(is there an official term for that?) I'm mostly OK with storms now but still get a bit freaked out during night storms, if I'm by myself! All these lightning illustrations reminded me of this phobia! I'm just greatful I don't live in America, I wouldn't have lasted with the amount of Storms you guys get!

:eek: Wow!! I have a thunderstorm phobia too, yet I'm a Storm fan. It's so weird:confused:

[LEX]

I hate lightnings and thunders. They deserve to be extinct - period. Every time there's a storm, I have to turn everything off; my bloody computer, my tv. :o

[DarknessOfDeath]

I hate lightnings and thunders. They deserve to be extinct - period. Every time there's a storm, I have to turn everything off; my bloody computer, my tv. :o

Same here... except I do love lightenings and thunders...makes me go into dark mode. ;)

[gap5ewl]

lightning and thunder is soo cool!

[spideyboy_1111]

well im a spidey fan. and im afraid of spiders.. well sorta.. im facinated when there on TV or im lookin at them in a cage... but not when there near me... or on me in real life

[LEX]

Same here... except I do love lightenings and thunders...makes me go into dark mode. ;)
*backs away slowly*

[WorthyStevens]

*backs away slowly*

*pushes Lex in front of Darkness as Worthy makes a run for it*

[LEX]

*pushes Lex in front of Darkness as Worthy makes a run for it*
Grr - you'll pay for that. :ghost:

[FieryBalrog]

So how in the hell is angrysentinel right? Just because it's the visible portion in no way makes that statement correct. Lightning is lightning is lightning. So we are either in agreement that lightning strikes from cloud to ground, with the visible portion appearing to our slower eyes as ground to cloud, (and if that's the case, then quit arguing a point that I made three posts back) or you really need to go back to college (please tell me you've been or are attending college) and have this discussion again. I am not going to debate anyone who's only reference point is HS science.


double majored Evo. biology & economics. Please read my post again in case you didnt get it the first 3 times I bolded it. ;)

the visible portion appearing to our slower eyes as ground to cloud

its not a visual trick. The return stroke is the part you actually SEE.

Lightning is lightning is lightning.

Really. Here I was thinking we were talking about something else. :p

As for schooling me, sweety, good luck with that. ;) :p

Thanks, but I managed without it. :p

[weatherwitch]

double majored Evo. biology & economics. Please read my post again in case you didnt get it the first 3 times I bolded it. ;)

the visible portion appearing to our slower eyes as ground to cloud

its not a visual trick. The return stroke is the part you actually SEE.

Lightning is lightning is lightning.

Really. Here I was thinking we were talking about something else. :p


Thanks, but I managed without it. :p

Like I said, then we are in agreement and you starting out your post with "actually angrysentinel is right" was a bad beginning to your point. Because his post said nothing about visibility, but just stated that lightning traveled from the ground to cloud. So you starting with that statement only emphasised a wrong. Perhaps you should have started with, "What I think angrysentinel is referring to, or he's wrong, but this..." By saying he was right and then making your statement it sounded as though you yourself didn't understand that lightning was not simply the visible flash that we see. As for a visual trick, uhm, mostly no, but yes the lead stroke can be seen, but not by our eyes-it's too fast. I'm not opening a new debate here, but TNWS has footage of several slowed down strikes, other sites as well, I can't think of the link off the top of my head but there's a site that displays the strike normal, then you can see it uber slowed and frame by frame and there are like 100 strokes in that one strike, and the lead in (almost) all of them is visible once slowed on camera, but too fast to be seen by the human eye.

And thus ends the cooperative lightning lesson provided to you by WW, Fiery, XWolverine the letter L and the number 8.

[Atmokinesis]

Hey all - new to the boards. Storm's definitely going to kick some ass in X3 and I can't wait!! :)

[Halcohol]

^Most definitely. Welcome to the Hype! What else are you lookin forward to in X3?

[weatherwitch]

Welcome to the Hype!:up::)

[Atmokinesis]

Looking forward to alot really, but just happy that after all these years we are going to be getting the real storm we all love. Powerful & a leader.
Confused over the Callisto fighting Storm photo though, but don't Callisto's powers enable her to sense the strength of other Mutants? And if so, why on earth she would go up against Storm is beyond me...!

[Lightning Strykez!]

I am truly flattered by all the talk about me in this thread...never knew that Lightning was a such a deep subject for you people. :p

[Halcohol]

^Which talk was that, LS, the "done in a flash" talk? ;)





:D
Oh, I'm goin to the special hell.

[LEX]

I blame you for exploding my computer two years ago, LS. :mad:



















I joke...I joke...

[X-Maniac]

Looking forward to alot really, but just happy that after all these years we are going to be getting the real storm we all love. Powerful & a leader.
Confused over the Callisto fighting Storm photo though, but don't Callisto's powers enable her to sense the strength of other Mutants? And if so, why on earth she would go up against Storm is beyond me...!

Yes, it's good we are getting a better Storm.

To me, though, having her as leader is not essential. I just wanted better dialogue to illustrate who she is, and why she does what she does. There is a great irony in that she left a world where she protected a people who worshipped her to enter a world where she protects a people who hate her and her kind. The contrast of cultures is a defining part of Storm - her simple but honest view of the world, her strong values and the way she has to deal with fighting people who are far from honest and who have no moral values.

I don't think the movie will delve into all that. But it will give a stronger voice, a reason to be fighting on the side she is on. And also give her the abilities that are part of the character, like flight.

[weatherwitch]

^Which talk was that, LS, the "done in a flash" talk? ;)





:D
Oh, I'm goin to the special hell.

Yes. But I'll see you there.


























And LS is never done in a flash ;)

[Halcohol]

^OOOoooOOOOooo :D

[HandOfFate]

Confused over the Callisto fighting Storm photo though, but don't Callisto's powers enable her to sense the strength of other Mutants? And if so, why on earth she would go up against Storm is beyond me...!

I’m not sure about the movie but…

Callisto’s mutation gives her peak-human abilities in the areas of strength, endurance and speed. She also possesses superhuman senses of sight (which including night vision), hearing, smell, taste, and touch. IIRC, with the exception of a healing factor, her abilities rival Wolverine.

I know the tidal wave is a part of her power... you know weather pulling and crap... but it seems like such a departure from her established abilities... and could confuse some non-X and non-science movie-goers...

I semi-agree with you because it does seem like a big jump in power but on the other hand, this is actually something she done in the comic.

[Jan Irisi]

I had an odd thought about the Calisto/Storm hand to hand bit...it may not be true, but what if Leech is nearby? (If this is at Alcatraz, it is a possibility) Their powers would be sapped, so they would have to go at it hand to hand, wouldn't they? It sure would even the odds.

I dunno...just an odd thought, like I said.

[Tashe]

Do you guys realize that the majority of the general public might not even know how lightning works? We, as Storm fans, love to take apart every single detail about her and her powers, but the general public may not even be paying that much attention to detail. If they are however, thinking that Storm's abilities are possible because of her expossure to the sky, that may change (depending on which powers she uses) during the danger room scene. The danger room is underground, you can't get any more confined than that. Over all, very interesting discussion.:up:

To the phobics, afraid and yet loving Storm? She is both the cause and the cure. You are, shall we say, victims of your own devotion.:)

On another note, that scan from X-Tremme X-Men if from issue #32, not 31. Just lending a hand.:)

[Iceman]

I had an odd thought about the Calisto/Storm hand to hand bit...it may not be true, but what if Leech is nearby? (If this is at Alcatraz, it is a possibility) Their powers would be sapped, so they would have to go at it hand to hand, wouldn't they? It sure would even the odds.

I dunno...just an odd thought, like I said.

It's certainly a possibility and would also be the only way that this Storm from X1 and X2 (rather than comics Storm who has knowledge of unarmed combat) should have a chance in close quarters against Callisto.

[Tashe]

I had an odd thought about the Calisto/Storm hand to hand bit...it may not be true, but what if Leech is nearby? (If this is at Alcatraz, it is a possibility) Their powers would be sapped, so they would have to go at it hand to hand, wouldn't they? It sure would even the odds.

I dunno...just an odd thought, like I said.


I think Leech has a certain range, if he were to interfere in the final battle the final battle wouldn't be as fun.

[DarknessOfDeath]

In the teaser trailer, the kid who was running toward Storm, was that leech??? Did he have hair??? it looked like he had hair in that shot...

[Jan Irisi]

I think Leech has a certain range, if he were to interfere in the final battle the final battle wouldn't be as fun.

Well, it wouldn't be as pretty that's for sure. There would be a lot of punching and kicking and biting and head-butting and such. All those ranged fighters would have to get their hands dirty.

[Lightning Strykez!]

In the teaser trailer, the kid who was running toward Storm, was that leech??? Did he have hair??? it looked like he had hair in that shot...


If I recall correctly, he was bald, or with a very, very low buzz cut.

[weatherwitch]

If I recall correctly, he was bald, or with a very, very low buzz cut.

he had hair--presumably growing back in--so it was very short.

[DarknessOfDeath]

okay... just wondering. :p

[Lightning Strykez!]

http://www.eurweb.com/images/articles/200511/halle_berry(005-headshot-med).jpg

The other side of Storm...

[DarknessOfDeath]

:eek:
:O
:D:up:

[lordofthenerds]

http://www.eurweb.com/images/articles/200511/halle_berry(005-headshot-med).jpg

The other side of Storm...
*Waits for full picture*...:D

[DarknessOfDeath]

*Waits for full picture*...:D

-Gets in line with LOTN- :D

[Storm22]

*pushes LOTN and DOD into traffic to get to top of line!*

[Lightning Strykez!]

*blows away all competitors with wall whiff of air*

[javon]

Okay.......???

[DarknessOfDeath]

AAAAH hey!! get off me! :p I was second place! :D LMAO

[imaperson2]

i was really bored and decided to do something at artpad. im not a good artist at ALL:O after i was done, i decided it looked like ru paul.

http://artpad.art.com/?ix0fvb5eijo

EDIT: its not working for me so nvm.

[RagingTempest]

http://www.cnsp.com/brrempel/blog/storm.jpg

This is one of my favorite Storm pics!!!:)

[RagingTempest]

http://storm-x.fromru.com/indexpic.jpg

And my other favorite, I wish they made Halle look like this in the movies.:D

[Angry Sentinel]

^ I have never seen that picture before...

[Specter313]

http://storm-x.fromru.com/indexpic.jpg

And my other favorite, I wish they made Halle look like this in the movies.:D

Wow, where's that one from?

[X-Maniac]

Great pictures. Especially the one posted by RagingTempest. The movie Storm is far removed from that kind of look... in many ways that's a shame.

That look could now only be achieved in a Storm spin-off (with recasting probably) or in a future 'X-Men Begins' movie with recasting and perhaps a different continuity to the movies. If only supermodel Naomi Campbell could act and wasn't such a difficult bytch, she might be the sort of person to achieve the look of this alternate Storm... regal and statuesque... very different to the current movie Storm.

However, I'm very happy with having been able to see Storm on screen for two movies so far, about to be three movies. A better look could have been achieved from the start if they'd got the styling right, and better dialogue/characterisation could have made her more regal and Amazonian...

[Iceman]

http://www.cnsp.com/brrempel/blog/storm.jpg

This is one of my favorite Storm pics!!!:)

Love it :up:

Where is it from?

[Specter313]

Love it :up:

Where is it from?

That one I know if the cover to Black Panther #8. Did a review for it when it crossed over with X-Men.

[X-Maniac]

Such great shots. Couldn't they have got Halle in some kind of ceremonial tribal headdress/tiara to recreate that look somehow. Even making it into a communication device she uses, a head-set in the X-jet or something.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Such great shots. Couldn't they have got Halle in some kind of ceremonial tribal headdress/tiara to recreate that look somehow. Even making it into a communication device she uses, a head-set in the X-jet or something.


Of course they could have. But that would have taken understanding of ethnic garb...a concept that Louise Mingenbach does not quite grasp in my opinion. :cool:

[xwolverine2]

nah that head halo thingy wouldnt match with her hair style.....

[Lightning Strykez!]

nah that head halo thingy wouldnt match with her hair style.....

Modifications could have been made to modernize Storm's trademark tiara, just like Magneto's helmet and Cyclop's visor were updated.

Again, all it takes is creativity. They wanted a safe route, which worked in some areas and didn't in others.

[xwolverine2]

i think its a great adaptation even though it doesnt touch on her african ethinicity....

[Lightning Strykez!]

i think its a great adaptation even though it doesnt touch on her african ethinicity....


I disagree. Storm's African ethnic heritage is a HUGE part of her outlook on life, and her personality.

The film's stripped the character of this, and that's a big reason why she's had no personality to date. She's always felt...empty to me. And when you take away the accent, the African-themed garb, etc., it just adds to the disillusionment to me.

Basically, they "americanized" her waaaay too much.

[lordofthenerds]

I disagree. Storm's African ethnic heritage is a HUGE part of her outlook on life, and her personality.

The film's stripped the character of this, and that's a big reason why she's had no personality to date. She's always felt...empty to me. And when you take away the accent, the African-themed garb, etc., it just adds to the disillusionment to me.

Basically, they "americanized" her waaaay too much.
Your forgetting that crappy accent that she put on in X1... :p

[xwolverine2]

Your forgetting that crappy accent that she put on in X1... :p
yeah...lol!

i remember when X1 was on "Dvd on tv" on fx...and the guy made fun of her language...

"..her god-knows were shes from accent"...and he said it funny..

LMFAO!!!:up:

[Lightning Strykez!]

The interesting thing about that is that people assumed she was trying to master an African accent. I don't think that was the aim at all. If anything she was trying to get to the accent as heard on the cartoon--which in my opinion, sounds more Brit than anything else.

Halle was certainly inconsistent at times (as was Hugh and Anna). But there were times where I thought she totally nailed the sound of Storm. Especially in X1 where she challenges Logan to "join us, fight with us....at least I've chosen a side."

She sounded strong and convincing there and in other scenes to me.

[xwolverine2]

The interesting thing about that is that people assumed she was trying to master an African accent. I don't think that was the aim at all. If anything she was trying to get to the accent as heard on the cartoon--which in my opinion, sounds more Brit than anything else.

Halle was certainly inconsistent at times (as was Hugh and Anna). But there were times where I thought she totally nailed the sound of Storm. Especially in X1 where she challenges Logan to "join us, fight with us....at least I've chosen a side."
i have to agree with you there:up: ...that scene she completely nailed it...

but the scene were she was teaching was horrendous..

its funny how her accent changed so fast...in the x3 trailer were she says "if your with us...then BE with us!" its 99% american 1%halle..lol!

[weatherwitch]

I disagree. Storm's African ethnic heritage is a HUGE part of her outlook on life, and her personality.

The film's stripped the character of this, and that's a big reason why she's had no personality to date. She's always felt...empty to me. And when you take away the accent, the African-themed garb, etc., it just adds to the disillusionment to me.

Basically, they "americanized" her waaaay too much.

And I disagree. The film's stripped Storm ofeverything--that I agree with, but let's face it, aside from the headress and occassional layering of gold jewlery, Storm really doesn't portray anything African/ethnic. And that's always been the way. Here's a strong woman that doesn't need to rely on her race/ethnicity to be popular/respected/revered. Her clothing (or desire for none) is indeed the most unique amongst the Xers, but I wouldn't classify it as ethnic or African in origin. She has phases like 'nature' and in such she can be demure or balls to the wall brass (i.e. the mohawk and leather--tres ethnic, no?) I kid, but seriously, many times it just feels tribal (of any tribe, native, African, Celtic, Pagan....you name it...generic tribal). Just adding my 2 cents. ;)

[TheWeatherMan]

The interesting thing about that is that people assumed she was trying to master an African accent. I don't think that was the aim at all. If anything she was trying to get to the accent as heard on the cartoon--which in my opinion, sounds more Brit than anything else.

Halle was certainly inconsistent at times (as was Hugh and Anna). But there were times where I thought she totally nailed the sound of Storm. Especially in X1 where she challenges Logan to "join us, fight with us....at least I've chosen a side."

She sounded strong and convincing there and in other scenes to me.

Halle had never seen the cartoons, so I don't think she was basing her accent off of it. She didn't know/read/see anything about the X-Men and Storm until after the movie. X1's and Halle's portrayal of Storm was inconsistent.

[The Original Bamfer]

I think it was extremely important for Storm's heritage to be well-known when she first appeared in the comics... at that time, such a strong backround would help to make here specific character dynamic and important. Now, it wouldn't so much. It isn't quite necessary for her heritage to be so heavily portrayed in the movies as now it is easily understandable that she would have an established point of view from the world around her. it just isn't pivotal for her roots to be dug up in the movies to explain her...

[TheWeatherMan]

And I disagree. The film's stripped Storm ofeverything--that I agree with, but let's face it, aside from the headress and occassional layering of gold jewlery, Storm really doesn't portray anything African/ethnic. And that's always been the way. Here's a strong woman that doesn't need to rely on her race/ethnicity to be popular/respected/revered. Her clothing (or desire for none) is indeed the most unique amongst the Xers, but I wouldn't classify it as ethnic or African in origin. She has phases like 'nature' and in such she can be demure or balls to the wall brass (i.e. the mohawk and leather--tres ethnic, no?) I kid, but seriously, many times it just feels tribal (of any tribe, native, African, Celtic, Pagan....you name it...generic tribal). Just adding my 2 cents. ;)

And I have to agree with you WW... and I honestly feel as if they would have put her in a tribal/african garb, it would have set her aside from the rest of the X-Men in a bad way because there would be no story to explain her heritage... JMO

[TheWeatherMan]

I think it was extremely important for Storm's heritage to be well-known when she first appeared in the comics... at that time, such a strong backround would help to make here specific character dynamic and important. Now, it wouldn't so much. It isn't quite necessary for her heritage to be so heavily portrayed in the movies as now it is easily understandable that she would have an established point of view from the world around her. it just isn't pivotal for her roots to be dug up in the movies to explain her...

You're right, it's not pivotal anymore, not in the X-films... maybe in a possible spin-off, but it is too late now. They did a poor job with her character development up until this movie.

[LittleMissVixen]

.....Comic Storm News Flash....

http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/blackpanther/15/BLAP015004_col.jpghttp://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/blackpanther/15/BLAP015010_col.jpg

Once T'Challa and Storm have settled into wedded bliss, many readers are wondering what type of role the Panther's new bride will play in "Black Panther," whether she'll be a co-star in the book or a supporting character. "It's the first year of a marriage of two strong personalities that are used to being in charge -- those questions will be sorting themselves out in a big way," Hudlin said.
Some readers also might be wondering if Storm will play an active part in any of the X-books or if her newfound responsibilities as a member of Wakanda's royal family will keep her occupied. "As Panther had a duty to find a Queen, so Storm will have duties, too," Hudlin explained "But nothing will play out in an expected manner."

More: http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=7019

[TheWeatherMan]

Hey all - new to the boards. Storm's definitely going to kick some ass in X3 and I can't wait!! :)

Welcome to the fam!

[TheWeatherMan]

.....Comic Storm News Flash....

http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/blackpanther/15/BLAP015004_col.jpghttp://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/blackpanther/15/BLAP015010_col.jpg

Once T'Challa and Storm have settled into wedded bliss, many readers are wondering what type of role the Panther's new bride will play in "Black Panther," whether she'll be a co-star in the book or a supporting character. "It's the first year of a marriage of two strong personalities that are used to being in charge -- those questions will be sorting themselves out in a big way," Hudlin said.
Some readers also might be wondering if Storm will play an active part in any of the X-books or if her newfound responsibilities as a member of Wakanda's royal family will keep her occupied. "As Panther had a duty to find a Queen, so Storm will have duties, too," Hudlin explained "But nothing will play out in an expected manner."

More: http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=7019

Very interesting... can't wait to see how it all plays out.

[DarknessOfDeath]

well good night all

[weatherwitch]

.....Comic Storm News Flash....

"As Panther had a duty to find a Queen, so Storm will have duties, too," Hudlin explained "But nothing will play out in an expected manner."

More: http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=7019

Duties such as breeding? The entire point of the Bride Hunt was to secure an heir. Super hero, mutant rights fighter, X-Man...not anymore, now brood mare. Someone wake me when this nightmare is over....:(:down

[LEX]

Welcome to the Hype, Atmokinesis. :up:

[Atmokinesis]

thanks everyone :D

[javon]

yeah

[FieryBalrog]

Duties such as breeding? The entire point of the Bride Hunt was to secure an heir. Super hero, mutant rights fighter, X-Man...not anymore, now brood mare. Someone wake me when this nightmare is over....:(:down

she might just be a mother, i dont know why youre calling it "breeding", like horses...

[weatherwitch]

she might just be a mother, i dont know why youre calling it "breeding", like horses...

I'm a mother. I chose to have my children because the time was right for me. Not because I needed to secure an heir. To mate for the sole purpose of having and heir to the throne is "breeding". She and T'Challa are just now getting together--to knock her up would be a huge mistake, but then again Hudlin isn't against making those apparently...

[JustABill]

I see lots of Storm sitting on a throne with a big round pregnant belly, side by side with Panther when all of a sudden.

Panther: The Panther Symbol! BLACK PANTHER AWAYYYYY.
Storm: I shall come with you. -stands-
Panther: Sit your pregnant ass down!
Storm: -sigh-

[Specter313]

I see lots of Storm sitting on a throne with a big round pregnant belly, side by side with Panther when all of a sudden.

Panther: The Panther Symbol! BLACK PANTHER AWAYYYYY.
Storm: I shall come with you. -stands-
Panther: Sit your pregnant ass down!
Storm: -sigh-

Lol, but Storm going through pregnancy hormone rages could have some great comedy moments. :D

[Blackpanther22]

Lol, but Storm going through pregnancy hormone rages could have some great comedy moments. :D

Yes, but this isn't your weekly Saturday sitcom.

[javon]

HELLO!!!!! Did any of you know that x3; the last stand premeired on the movie ''ATL'' yestarday?!! I was sitting their with everyone quiet in the theater when they showed a mansion and i was thinking '' That looks just like-'' the the president was showed and i'm like ahhhhhhhhhah!!! But i just wanted to let ya'll know that it was on there. If you don't know what the atl movie is, it is starring the rapper T.I in it and it was good! Bye!:)

[Storm22]

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[ts16]

HELLO!!!!! Did any of you know that x3; the last stand premeired on the movie ''ATL'' yestarday?!! I was sitting their with everyone quiet in the theater when they showed a mansion and i was thinking '' That looks just like-'' the the president was showed and i'm like ahhhhhhhhhah!!! But i just wanted to let ya'll know that it was on there. I you don't knoiw what the atl moview is, it is starring the rapper T.I in it and it was good! Bye!:)


Thats cool Javon. Did the trailer draw any reaction from the crowd?

[N_z0]

HELLO!!!!! Did any of you know that x3; the last stand premeired on the movie ''ATL'' yestarday?!! I was sitting their with everyone quiet in the theater when they showed a mansion and i was thinking '' That looks just like-'' the the president was showed and i'm like ahhhhhhhhhah!!! But i just wanted to let ya'll know that it was on there. If you don't know what the atl movie is, it is starring the rapper T.I in it and it was good! Bye!:)

This is the "old" trailer right?

And by mansion do you mean the White House one? :p

[javon]

Thats cool Javon. Did the trailer draw any reaction from the crowd?

I was trying to hear what people was going to say but some people were still talking to the point where i couldn'y hear others.

[javon]

This is the "old" trailer right?

And by mansion do you mean the White House one? :p

It was the one that aired with 24. And yes i meant white house as in ''president''. But i was so excited even though i saw it like 5 times..lol.

[ManX07]

so the people were excited ?

[RagingTempest]

I hope the crowd was excited, I remember when I saw the teaser trailer when I saw Underworld:Evolution, and the crowd reacted well.:up:

[javon]

don't know. I heard lots of talking but they were all to mixed up for me to understande correctly. LOL.

[javon]

I hope the crowd was excited, I remember when I saw the teaser trailer when I saw Underworld:Evolution, and the crowd reacted well.:up:

I didn't know it was attached to underworld evolution?!

[N_z0]

don't know. I heard lots of talking but they were all to mixed up for me to understande correctly. LOL.

Were they talking during the trailer though or did they start talking after the trailer?

You have to understand, WE HAVE TO KNOW! :D

[RagingTempest]

I didn't know it was attached to underworld evolution?!

Yeah, and it was great seeing it on the big screen, it gave me chills. I can't wait to see the new one in the theaters.:up:

[ManX07]

did anyone ever findout what other movies the new trailer would be with?

[javon]

I thought it would be with v for vendetta. Guess not.

[N_z0]

It's probably attached to EVERY print of Ice Age. I know that's redundant.

And by that i don't mean "attached to King Kong" attached or "attached to V for
Vendetta" attached.

:down

[ManX07]

thanX

[N_z0]

thanX

It's best to call theatre ahead. It doesn't work sometimes unfortunately, especially when you've got lazy-a$$ed theatre employees who simply laugh at your face for asking about a trailer.

:mad: :down :o

[ManX07]

lol

[javon]

Oh yeah......... I meant to tell you guys(no april fool's joke because i hate it as much as you do) i got excepted into Douglas Anderson School of the arts!!!!! ( If you don't know what it is, the name says it all!lol). I got excepted for acting(theatre performance)

[ManX07]

Congratulations

[X-Maniac]

A hypester called chesslover just asked me to whom my signature refers. :(

As if anyone really has to ask! :confused:

He wondered if it referred to 'my wife'?! Would anyone have a wife with breath of fire and ice and a voice like rolling thunder??? :eek:

If anyone does wonder, it's from 'Rogue Storm' in Uncanny X-Men 147, published in July, 1981. :)

[X-Maniac]

Oh yeah......... I meant to tell you guys(no april fool's joke because i hate it as much as you do) i got excepted into Douglas Anderson School of the arts!!!!! ( If you don't know what it is, the name says it all!lol). I got excepted for acting(theatre performance)

Congratulations!

Hopefully they'll teach you how to spell too! :)

It's 'accepted' and 'prevail'.... just so you know in case you end up writing essays and stuff!

[Karea07]

haha

[JustABill]

Wow. X-Maniac. Being a little rough today are we? :p

And man Dew totally closed my best April Fool's thread today.

It was titled....''Angelina Jolie Opens and Closes Mouth. Entire Nation Swallowed."

[Specter313]

Yes, but this isn't your weekly Saturday sitcom.

Your point? Something doesn't have to be a sitcom to have good comedy.

[weatherwitch]

Your point? Something doesn't have to be a sitcom to have good comedy.

True, but I think what was meant, was that it would be a shame to see a superpower such as Storm reduced to slapstick/typical comedy. Comedy is needed and necessary in life and in comics, and Ororo preggers does lend some creatively funny ideas, but just not as a regular. ;)

[weatherwitch]

A hypester called chesslover just asked me to whom my signature refers. :(

As if anyone really has to ask! :confused:

He wondered if it referred to 'my wife'?! Would anyone have a wife with breath of fire and ice and a voice like rolling thunder??? :eek:

If anyone does wonder, it's from 'Rogue Storm' in Uncanny X-Men 147, published in July, 1981. :)

Really? And here I thought you were referring to me. My narcissism is on overload...*sigh* :p

[Specter313]

True, but I think what was meant, was that it would be a shame to see a superpower such as Storm reduced to slapstick/typical comedy. Comedy is needed and necessary in life and in comics, and Ororo preggers does lend some creatively funny ideas, but just not as a regular. ;)

And that's exactly what I was talking about. Should she get pregnant, no, I wasn't suggesting that the whole thing be turned into one gag after another. Just maybe show something like this once in awhile:

T'Challa: Honey, are you good? Can I get you anything?
Storm: *turns and looks at him with all-white eyes as the sky darkens* Does it LOOK like I'm ok? You're the one that did this to me!
T'Challa: *backs out of the rooms as quickly as possible*