"By The Goddess": The Official Storm/Halle Berry Discussion

[weatherwitch]

Rofl.

If you saw her you would be saying "Halle who?"

I disagree. Salma is beautiful and cuvatious, which is a bonus. But so is Halle. Both women are practically flawless. However, neither one are Lucy Lu's. :p Lucy rocks. Out frikkin' loud.

[weatherwitch]

^Lol. And whats rofl?

A sound a congested dog makes.

[javon]

Where are the STORM AVATAR?!!!!!!! And weatherwitch how'd you get the one with Storm crying? They didn't show that yet.

[weatherwitch]

Where are the STORM AVATAR?!!!!!!! And weatherwitch how'd you get the one with Storm crying? They didn't show that yet.

Go here for avatars http://www.angelfire.com/art3/shh/TakeAStand.html

...And my secret. :cool:

[javon]

^Thanks!!!

[Lightning Strykez!]

Allright, I'll definitely admit she's a hottie but she shouldn't have placed ahead of Salma Hayek. And I'll fight anyone who admits otherwise. Salma if your reading this I would gladly judge this contest. Gloves off!


I must respectfully disagree here. Salma is dropdead gorgeous...there is no mistaking that. But she has a very specific kind of beauty...Halle seems to have a more mainstream appeal physically speaking. Plus she has the tighter figure...IMO. ;)

And WW...I think Lucy Liu resembles an Alien. :p

[weatherwitch]

I must respectfully disagree here. Salma is dropdead gorgeous...there is no mistaking that. But she has a very specific kind of beauty...Halle seems to have a more mainstream appeal physically speaking. Plus she has the tighter figure...IMO. ;)

And WW...I think Lucy Liu resembles an Alien. :p

:eek: Are you blind man?!? Lucy is hotness personified. Attitude and grace. Intelligence and Beauty. The whole package. *sigh* Some people...

[Optic Rage]

Plus Lucy could totally kick your arse.

[javon]

Stick to charlies angels dude,lol.

[Lightning Strykez!]

:eek: Are you blind man?!? Lucy is hotness personified. Attitude and grace. Intelligence and Beauty. The whole package. *sigh* Some people...

Oh, don't get me wrong--I love Liu. She was definitely the best Angel and my favorite. And she is beautiful. But she still looks like an alien to me sometimes. Tyra Banks does to...so it's not like it's an ug-factor. :p


Plus Lucy could totally kick your arse....

Only on the Charlie's Angels' production set would this be possible. :cool:

[javon]

Oh, don't get me wrong--I love Liu. She was definitely the best Angel and my favorite. And she is beautiful. But she still looks like an alien to me sometimes. Tyra Banks does to...so it's not like it's an ug-factor. :p

LMAO!!! lucy sorta does look an alien..then their Drew and Cameron...:)

[LEX]

I love Lucy Liu. My favourite Angel out of all three.
Only on the Charlie's Angels' production set would this be possible. :cool:
You never know. She could've learned some moves from the movie. ;)

[Lightning Strykez!]

I love Lucy Liu. My favourite Angel out of all three.

You never know. She could've learned some moves from the movie. ;)


True, true.

[javon]

Lucy is my favorite angel too. Then Cameron. Drew.........i'll pray.

[celldog]

Actually technically this is what 40 looks like on a woman born to a Black Father and Caucasian Mother (ofcourse under some makeup and good lighting). Never-the-less, the photographer was kissing his own @$$ at the once in a lifetime opportunity.


Black Women age very slowly...........



http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0006VXM7Q.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


http://members.fortunecity.com/johnrobinson11/scansw/williamsv/Vanessa%20Williams%208u.jpg



http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/artd/amg/music/bio/416230_natalie_cole_200x200.jpg



http://www.onlineseats.com/upload/concerts/334_con_netalie1.gif


http://www.founders.howard.edu/Commencement2000/IMAGES/Bassett250.jpg



http://eur.yimg.com/i/xp/premier_photo/d/d93a433712.jpg



All of these are "over 40" photos!!

[javon]

Wow! Who's that one after Vanessa?

[RagingTempest]

Black Women age very slowly...........



http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0006VXM7Q.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


http://members.fortunecity.com/johnrobinson11/scansw/williamsv/Vanessa%20Williams%208u.jpg



http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/artd/amg/music/bio/416230_natalie_cole_200x200.jpg



http://www.onlineseats.com/upload/concerts/334_con_netalie1.gif


http://www.founders.howard.edu/Commencement2000/IMAGES/Bassett250.jpg



http://eur.yimg.com/i/xp/premier_photo/d/d93a433712.jpg



All of these are "over 40" photos!!

YUMMY!!!:up:

[celldog]

Wow! Who's that one after Vanessa?

Natalie Cole

http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Delta/7733/photos/natalie_cole4.jpg

[celldog]

http://www.crazy4cinema.com/Actress/imgs/stone.jpg



http://lepo.it.da.ut.ee/~platon/madonna/m_pictures/madonna_dahlen_08.jpg


http://www.theincrowdvlog.com/incrowdvlog/list/film/images/Diane%20Lane%20Cheryl%20Shuman.jpg



40 Plus is showing.......... :(

[RagingTempest]

Ehhhwwww, MADONNA!!!:mad: :down

[Chris Wallace]

I Love That Line In Your Sig.
And Where's Lynn Whitfield?

[Baredevil]

Flame On!
http://pic19.picturetrail.com/VOL1039/1285721/10138971/154489864.jpg

Storm Gets 'Nixed

Phoenix : "Don't you know who I am? I'm the Phoenix, b*tch!"
Storm : "AIIIIEEEEEAAAAARGHHH!"
Logan : "Go get 'er, babe."

[javon]

Diidn't you post that in a different thread? Or was that this one? I get confused from all the threads i go on..Anyway..i'm gon' 4 today ya'll so see ya til' tommorow.

[RagingTempest]

Flame On!
http://pic19.picturetrail.com/VOL1039/1285721/10138971/154489864.jpg

Storm Gets 'Nixed

Phoenix : "Don't you know who I am? I'm the Phoenix, b*tch!"
Storm : "AIIIIEEEEEAAAAARGHHH!"
Logan : "Go get 'er, babe."

:o :down

[RagingTempest]

I Love That Line In Your Sig.
And Where's Lynn Whitfield?

Thanks:up:

[weatherwitch]

Flame On!


Storm Gets 'Nixed

Phoenix : "Don't you know who I am? I'm the Phoenix, b*tch!"
Storm : "AIIIIEEEEEAAAAARGHHH!"
Logan : "Go get 'er, babe."

Lame. :down

[LEX]

True, true.
I remember reading an article saying that Keanu Reeves used his martial art skills on some robber that he learned from The Matrix set. Useful. :up:

[Mike059jig]

Lmao!!!:D

[Baredevil]

Lame. :down

What's "lame" is Halle Berry playing Storm. My opinion.

[Goddessreicho]

Real friggin funy Baredevil but uh last time I checked Phoenix aint got no flames, and Storm can control the weather (didn't know if you knew that or not)...so the chances of that happen are kinda sorta slim...

[weatherwitch]

What's "lame" is Halle Berry playing Storm. My opinion.

See, this is why Phoenix fans are laughable. No one goes into the Phoenix threads posting pics of Jean rotting 6 feet under (a fact as opposed to fanboy dreaming). Or runs into the thread pointing out that without the "Phoenix" Jean Grey is nothing more than a waterdowned, rip off of Spiderman's MJ. Sad, but true.

[Goddessreicho]

Ohhh I have a post you might like in the comics. Its in the Jean/Phoenix thread. Go and check it out.

[Baredevil]

Actually, weatherwitch, Storm happens to BE my favorite X-Man character, not Phoenix nor Jean.

Love Storm. Hated Halle.

Big diff.

[Optic Rage]

Whats with the white vs black stuff.....NOT NEEDED.

Also you shouldent come into the storm thread and bash her[even if you think halle sucks you can say that elsewere]....its trolling.

People have been banned for doing that before..the includes the cyclops thread too.

[Baredevil]

You mean I can't post an opinion? Last time I looked, this was a message board for varying opinions on different topics.

[weatherwitch]

Actually, weatherwitch, Storm happens to BE my favorite X-Man character, not Phoenix nor Jean.

Love Storm. Hated Halle.

Big diff.

You certainly have a mature and respectable way of posting that opinion.

[Baredevil]

"Don't get your panties in a bunch."

[weatherwitch]

"Don't get your panties in a bunch."

Let me get this straight. Your wit is so tired and dried out you resorted to quoting Wolverine? Wow. That is special. And it's a thong. If I manage to get that bunched I have bigger issues than the comic book forum. :p

[Goddessreicho]

It would have been alot better for you to complain about it during X1... But if your still doing it now, 6 damn years later...then it sucks to be you!

[Optic Rage]

You mean I can't post an opinion? Last time I looked, this was a message board for varying opinions on different topics.

Sure you can, You can slag off Halle all you want[i also think she is a terrible Storm]. But not in a thread full of her fans.

It causes nothing but trouble.....as you can see.

[Lightning Strykez!]

You mean I can't post an opinion? Last time I looked, this was a message board for varying opinions on different topics.


*sigh*

I swear everytime I turn around....

This is the standard on Trolling:

Trolling is considered posting in an established thread for the expressed purpose of ticking off as many people as possible that would normally be reading that thread. Trolling can result in a warning or probation. Continued trolling may result in banning.

Now, if this photo...

http://pic19.picturetrail.com/VOL1039/1285721/10138971/154489864.jpg

...featured Cyclops in Storm's position (and condition) and was posted in the Cyclops thread, holy hell would be raised with the fans there. People need to start thinking before they post around here because obviously not everyone has the same kind of sense of humor, and others may be supersensitive. So Baredevil, please take a better consensus of the existing discussion before you post things like that...it causes unnecessary flaming.

Now....

To the Phoenix fans who keep coming in here looking for trouble (calling Storm fans "B**ches, and so forth) you are gunning for trouble as well. Stop poking sticks in other characters' fans' hives...you wouldn't appreciate it if it was done to yours. Think before you type.

To the Storm fans who antagonize others with these sad "Storm is unbeatable at all costs" and "Storm Vs. _________" discussions--take a reality check and accept defeat when the debate is won. The arguing and personalized attacks does nothing but make you look immature.

I'm getting fed up with the childish behavior on this board. Not sure where all the jealousy and competition is coming from but the ax is gonna start dropping hard if folks don't grow up.

[weatherwitch]

I'm getting fed up with the childish behavior on this board. Not sure where all the jealousy and competition is coming from but the ax is gonna start dropping hard if folks don't grow up.

You heard the man! Don't make him whip out his big stick...erm...ax. Yeah. **leaves LS to handle the modding**

[micky-fox]

I must respectfully disagree here. Salma is dropdead gorgeous...there is no mistaking that. But she has a very specific kind of beauty...Halle seems to have a more mainstream appeal physically speaking. Plus she has the tighter figure...IMO. ;)

Agreed. She's got it all. :up:

Plus Lucy could totally kick your arse.

Stick to charlies angels dude,lol.

Only on the Charlie's Angels' production set would this be possible. :cool:

I love Lucy Liu. My favourite Angel out of all three.

You never know. She could've learned some moves from the movie. ;)

Firstly, Lucy Liu owns the other two angels. And secondly, Lucy is actually a practicing martial artist. I can't specifically remember what style of martial art she does, but she's been doing it since childhood. I seen it on VH1, they had a special on the hottest men and women in Hollywood not too long ago. They included their diet, training, etc. She could kick my ass anyday.

[borinquenknight]

Flame On!
http://pic19.picturetrail.com/VOL1039/1285721/10138971/154489864.jpg

Storm Gets 'Nixed

Phoenix : "Don't you know who I am? I'm the Phoenix, b*tch!"
Storm : "AIIIIEEEEEAAAAARGHHH!"
Logan : "Go get 'er, babe."

I don't care what anyone else says, Bare, this is hilarious!

[micky-fox]

I don't care what anyone else says, Bare, this is hilarious!

When does it end? Listen, you've already been warned by Lightning Strikez! Not such a good idea to disregard the advice of a mod. Put your personal opinions which are bound to upset other members in this board behind you and let's move on to an actual civil discussion of Halle/Storm (if that's ever going to be possible). Enough with the trolling, already. If you can't obey rules, then what exactly are you doing in this thread?

[Celestio]

I wonder why they cut this shot:

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8756/storm200cl.gif

I'm thinking it was when the Brotherhood were charging at the X-Men as Storm is on the ground. Plus, she doesn't do anything when they attack, she just flies into the air after.

Grr. Stupid Fox and them cutting shots. :mad:

[celldog]

I Love That Line In Your Sig.
And Where's Lynn Whitfield?

http://www.altrue.net/altruesite/files/artsanctuary/05-06/sherl.lee.jpg
Sheryl Lee Ralph 40 plus



http://www.geocities.com/lynn_whitfield_bw/images/bw-lyw-5.jpg

40 plus Lynn Whitfield


My Sista's age much smoother....

[RagingTempest]

I wonder why they cut this shot:

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8756/storm200cl.gif

I'm thinking it was when the Brotherhood were charging at the X-Men as Storm is on the ground. Plus, she doesn't do anything when they attack, she just flies into the air after.

Grr. Stupid Fox and them cutting shots. :mad:

I know, that made me so mad, the scenes and lines they cut out from the movie...I was like WTF?!!!:mad: :down

[Angamb]

I haven't said it yet, but I was dissapointed with the supposed "goddess" that Storm is. I mean, why they can'T make a good Storm flying sequence??? Like Superman, Human torch, Spiderman in the air.. WHY? I really don't understand it.

WHY, FOX?
DAMMIT!

[javon]

I wonder why they cut this shot:

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8756/storm200cl.gif

I'm thinking it was when the Brotherhood were charging at the X-Men as Storm is on the ground. Plus, she doesn't do anything when they attack, she just flies into the air after.

Grr. Stupid Fox and them cutting shots. :mad:
I knnow! And that one, in my opinion, looks better than the electricity she shot at Callisto. And why can't we have leader in our avatar? And I got these from over at xmenfilms and this boy said that when he saw x3 the second time you could see wolverine and Storm fly out of the house when Jean levitated it.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h27/wolfgang8565/stormwolvie.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h27/wolfgang8565/stormfog2.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h27/wolfgang8565/stormfog.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h27/wolfgang8565/stormbolts1.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h27/wolfgang8565/stormbolt2.jpg
Sorry 4 the strecth but its worth it..like the boy said!hehehe

[Optic Rage]

Celldog, instead of posting airbrushed pictures of celebrities who have probably paid thousands on botox why don't you find an average black women on the street at 40 and see how they look.

Sorry but just because this is a thread for a black character doesn't mean it should be full of ''blacks are better then whites'' crap.

I imagine if it was a white person posting pro white stuff on the jean Grey thread it would offend a lot of people, and i think at this day and age we shouldn't have double standards when it comes to race.

P.s Lynn Whitfield is showing her age in that picture. And Madonna is over hyped, she needs to cover herself up.

[javon]

Okay now WTF are you talking about?! Stop being like that becuase what you just said is totally out of par. Nobody said anything about blacks being better than whites and that gets me angry 4 you saying that! You need to stop coming in peoples thread and starting stuff because we were having a good old time without you.

[S7ilver]

Who's saying black is better then white? Just because someone says something they think is true doesn't mean they're putting down another race. I didn't see anyone type something like black people are prettier then white people unless I missed it..

[Optic Rage]

Javon, Go hit puberty and then we can talk.

S7iver it wasnt outright said. But if someone posts a bunch of pictures of black women and says how great they look at 40, and then posts pictures of white women at 40 and say that ''they look ugly'', well i cant help but think its not needed in a storm thread. And in a way is putting the two races into competition.

How would you feel if you went to the jean grey thread and seen the same stuff going on but vice versa, wouldent it annoy you just a little bit?

[javon]

Who's saying black is better then white? Just because someone says something they think is true doesn't mean they're putting down another race. I didn't see anyone type something like black people are prettier then white people unless I missed it..
It wasn't called for, but anyways...

[Optic Rage]

Go spin round your kitchen, you ''chold''

[LEX]

Settle down, everyone.
I wonder why they cut this shot:

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8756/storm200cl.gif

I'm thinking it was when the Brotherhood were charging at the X-Men as Storm is on the ground. Plus, she doesn't do anything when they attack, she just flies into the air after.

Grr. Stupid Fox and them cutting shots. :mad:
I didn't even realized that shot was cut from the final cut. Now, I'm angry. That was one of the best parts in the trailer.

I assure you, there will be a BUNCH of deleted scenes, that's for all. Fox frustrates me.

[javon]

Go spin round your kitchen, you ''chold''
Lets just sweep the problem under the rug.. *edit*

[Optic Rage]

You dont know anything about me, so the fact you branded me a rascist is quite offesive to me when one of my closest friends is black. But its my own fault for not putting you on ignore weeks ago, i wont make that mistake again.

And the funny thing is i find black women more attractive, but i hate seeing race competition being brought up on X-men forums. Its not needed and it offends people.

[javon]

I'll just forget about it.

[Karea07]

i cant believe they ****ing cut the tidal wave... if people see that as a deleted scene they will think wtf why didnt they use that?

[javon]

^I know! I bet they cut it 4 a dumb reason too.

[Karea07]

yeah so callisto could attack her i think... thats dumb she could have risen up later and had callisto attack her.

[LEX]

Can't we just get along? Sweep your problems under the rug and make nice before lightning strikes.

[javon]

I just wanted to know who she was striking at with lightning. That would have made a great scene!

[PhoenixIsTheOne]

If they would have added all those scenes then it would have costed more money and certain characters wouldn't have been able 2 use there powers alot.

[Optic Rage]

Am i meant to be worried Lex? That lightning strikes thing makes me cringe.

I was hoping lightning was going to say something, but he didnt. Even tough im sure he wont agree with what i said.

[javon]

If they would have added all those scenes then it would have costed more money and certain characters wouldn't have been able 2 use there powers alot.
Well i would have wanted to trade some of Storms deleted scenes and the ones from the movie..lets say when she clears the fog...that should be raded with her shootinglightning from her hand at Alctraz. And in the novel, storm has a flash back of how the Professor and Jean came and got her. (i haven't read the novel but someone over at thexverse did.)

[Celestio]

If they would have added all those scenes then it would have costed more money and certain characters wouldn't have been able 2 use there powers alot.

What are you talking about?

It wouldn't have 'costed' more because the lightning from her hand AND tidal wave were already filmed and had SFX done. All it would have done would increase the running time ever so slightly. So to remove those seems so pointless. :down:o

[javon]

Oh yeah! Then i'm with my original idea!!

[micky-fox]

What are you talking about?

It wouldn't have 'costed' more because the lightning from her hand AND tidal wave were already filmed and had SFX done. All it would have done would increase the running time ever so slightly. So to remove those seems so pointless. :down:o

They always find a way to further piss us off. Cutting perfectly good scenes... what morons. :o

[The PhantaZm]

In an interview halle berry said she didn't care if she got one scene in the movie she just wanted the chance to say something meaningful!

So what the hell did she say? She has an obnoxious rant about how much she hates the cure, then a dull speech at Xaviers funeral and thats about it.

Halle Berry is a liar. All she wanted was more screen time, she didn't really care about saying anything great.

[micky-fox]

In an interview halle berry said she didn't care if she got one scene in the movie she just wanted the chance to say something meaningful!

So what the hell did she say? She has an obnoxious rant about how much she hates the cure, then a dull speech at Xaviers funeral and thats about it.

Halle Berry is a liar. All she wanted was more screen time, she didn't really care about saying anything great.

Hater alert, y'all! :o

I personally found pretty much everything she said meaningful...

[Pizzaboy1138]

So what the hell did she say?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tlvvXo8uYE&search=dubbed%20stand

[crappymovie]

Hater alert, y'all! :o

I personally found pretty much everything she said meaningful...

Please note that things said forcefully do not constitute as something "meaningful."

For example:
Rogue: "Give me my cheesburger, b*tch! Understand?"
Phoenix: "Logan, get in my pants! Now!"
Logan: "Storm, I'm upset Fox cut our sex scene. Really!"

They can all be said forcefully, but they are still useless, filler lines. Storm had some good, meaningful lines, but the ones she didn't....she just said forcefully. I personally think some of her dialogue in X2 with Nightcrawler was more meaningful than some things she said in X3.

But please give me any examples of her poignant speeches, other than the eulogy, and her "we don't need the cure" speech.

[ico]

The eulogy was the only decent thing she said in the whole movie.

[The PhantaZm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tlvvXo8uYE&search=dubbed%20stand

Thats the Greatest thing I've ever seen! :) Thank You!

[iamcolossus]

It's all about the paycheck

[crappymovie]

It's all about the paycheck

I think Halle's better than that at least. She wanted to actually WORK on the film, and earn her paycheck. She mentioned that, and it's understandable. But, I think where you can fault her is that she didn't understand that the film was an ENSEMBLE, meaning that she might not be a major force in the film. I think that she wanted to be an "insider" essentially, but really, her Storm doesn't really fit inside the established story. In X1, she was just that cooky Count Dracula-accent chick. But that's not her fault: the writer's wrote her role.

What's her fault is her incessant pissed off delivery of lines....

[iamcolossus]

So what the hell did she say?

"I love what you've done with your hair!":down

[crappymovie]

"I love what you've done with your hair!":down

That was my problem right there. Storm has no definitive personality, she's so inconsistent in the movies. In the first movie, I thought she was a regal type, a little reserved and removed from the others - very Storm-like, but a little too timid. In X2, Storm started to loosen up, seemed more Americanized, but she was still a compasionate, motherly type - ok. X3, Storm became a full American citizen, commenting on hairstyles and asking "what the hell was up?" I understand movie Storm is a different character than comic Storm...but couldn't she at least be somewhat consistent. Or was X1 and X2 Storm just "shy", and she wasn't able to comment on her love for people's hairstyles? X3 Storm nagged her teammates, shoved her opinion down people's throats, and had a relatively schizophrenic demanour: couldn't you have imagined her sweet eulogy speech to have ended with "...And you better not cry from him. I'll kill you all. Understand?.....I'm so sad! (cry)"

[The PhantaZm]

That was my problem right there. Storm has no definitive personality, she's so inconsistent in the movies. In the first movie, I thought she was a regal type, a little reserved and removed from the others - very Storm-like, but a little too timid. In X2, Storm started to loosen up, seemed more Americanized, but she was still a compasionate, motherly type - ok. X3, Storm became a full American citizen, commenting on hairstyles and asking "what the hell was up?" I understand movie Storm is a different character than comic Storm...but couldn't she at least be somewhat consistent. Or was X1 and X2 Storm just "shy", and she wasn't able to comment on her love for people's hairstyles? X3 Storm nagged her teammates, shoved her opinion down people's throats, and had a relatively schizophrenic demanour: couldn't you have imagined her sweet eulogy speech to have ended with "...And you better not cry from him. I'll kill you all. Understand?.....I'm so sad! (cry)"

The worst line was when Storm went to Hugh Jackman and said "I hope you know what you have to do" or something like that, basically saying he better kill Jean. When did she become so insensitive?? On top of that she says "She killed the proffessor!!" So its a revenge thing? Its not about Jeans potential to kill millions of people, she just wants revenge.

[The Batman]

The moment i realized Halle was lying about having a role of substance was in a wizard interview where she talked about how she hadnt read the comics....but before, she was all about making ororo more like the comics. Most of the time, all she talked about was being able to fly and do more with her powers. thats not making her more like the comics.

[weatherwitch]

Wow, an entire thread dedicated to b*tching about Halle Berry. Some of you need hobbies--outdoor type hobbies.

Her role was significantly more meaningful in the aspect that you knew her stance on the cure and on Jean. Anyone that says they didn't is full of crap. She never said she wanted more lines of dialogue or screentime, she said she wanted her character to have a POV and what screentime she did have be meaningful. Whether you like her or hate her, you knew what her stance was. That is meaningful.

And someone please, break out a stopwatch. She had nearly the same amount of screentime in X3 that she had in X2. Don't believe me? Go watch the movies again.

The difference. You don't remember much about X2 because her character had no meaning. She was the handy weatherchick that made it cold.
In X3 she finally has meaningful character development.

It's really simple once you get past the whiney fanboy crap.

[The Batman]

maybe so, but i still feel she lied about making storm more like the comics.

[weatherwitch]

maybe so, but i still feel she lied about making storm more like the comics.

I never met Halle, so I don't know personally, but I think she said what the fans wanted her to say. I mean, in X1 and X2 the actors were actively discouraged from reading the comics (this is true), and after Storm being so horrible many fans outright attacked her, and even got in her face telling her that Storm was nothing like the comics. So her saying "I want Storm to be more like the comics" Does not mean, necessarily, that she read the books and saw a difference. Perhaps, she was told of a difference and left it to the people in charge of those things to fix it. Therefore, her quote of "I don't read the books" doesn't make her a liar. It just makes her look a bit foolish and open to fan lashback. Maybe.

[BMM]

Wow, an entire thread dedicated to b*tching about Halle Berry. Some of you need hobbies--outdoor type hobbies.

Her role was significantly more meaningful in the aspect that you knew her stance on the cure and on Jean. Anyone that says they didn't is full of crap. She never said she wanted more lines of dialogue or screentime, she said she wanted her character to have a POV and what screentime she did have be meaningful. Whether you like her or hate her, you knew what her stance was. That is meaningful.

And someone please, break out a stopwatch. She had nearly the same amount of screentime in X3 that she had in X2. Don't believe me? Go watch the movies again.

The difference. You don't remember much about X2 because her character had no meaning. She was the handy weatherchick that made it cold.
In X3 she finally has meaningful character development.

It's really simple once you get past the whiney fanboy crap.

Actually, I remember her character moments with Nightcrawler best from X2, whereas in X3 I remember her creating and dissipating fog quite a bit . . . oh, and she spins (although, I did enjoy her moments outside of the Grey household).

I mean, in X1 and X2 the actors were actively discouraged from reading the comics (this is true)

No. No it's not. This has been refuted by the actors . . . and in recent X3 interviews no less. Go check out Patrick Stewart's X3 interview at IESB.net . . . there is an entire question dedicated to this rumor, in which Stewart notes he was sent a large box of comics in order to familiarize himself with his character.

[The PhantaZm]

Wow, an entire thread dedicated to b*tching about Halle Berry. Some of you need hobbies--outdoor type hobbies.

Her role was significantly more meaningful in the aspect that you knew her stance on the cure and on Jean. Anyone that says they didn't is full of crap. She never said she wanted more lines of dialogue or screentime, she said she wanted her character to have a POV and what screentime she did have be meaningful. Whether you like her or hate her, you knew what her stance was. That is meaningful.

And someone please, break out a stopwatch. She had nearly the same amount of screentime in X3 that she had in X2. Don't believe me? Go watch the movies again.

The difference. You don't remember much about X2 because her character had no meaning. She was the handy weatherchick that made it cold.
In X3 she finally has meaningful character development.

It's really simple once you get past the whiney fanboy crap.

Actually I'm more confused about her POV now than ever seeing as how her stance and personality in general (not to mention her accent) have been completely inconsistent throughout the three movies. What halle berry doesn't understand is that the world doesn't revolve around her. Somethings are more important than her, like story.

[crappymovie]

Wow, an entire thread dedicated to b*tching about Halle Berry. Some of you need hobbies--outdoor type hobbies.

Hmmm...maybe so. But I think blind praise for everything related to Storm is just a little more pathetic.

Her role was significantly more meaningful in the aspect that you knew her stance on the cure and on Jean. Anyone that says they didn't is full of crap. She never said she wanted more lines of dialogue or screentime, she said she wanted her character to have a POV and what screentime she did have be meaningful. Whether you like her or hate her, you knew what her stance was. That is meaningful.

She had two lines about the cure. She had a short discussion with Logan about Jean. In both situations, she was purely annoyed. What was the point of giving her an opinion? For the sake of giving her an opinion ($$$). What relevance did she have, and was it a Storm-like opinion? Couldn't they have just given Colossus those lines, and he could have forced them upon other people? But I see what you're saying: because Storm was opionated and *****y, she WAS developed as a character. However, I think many fans are concerned about WHAT she said, and the forum she said it in. She was just confrontational....for the sake of being confrontational.

And someone please, break out a stopwatch. She had nearly the same amount of screentime in X3 that she had in X2. Don't believe me? Go watch the movies again.

No one is disagreeing, she was just more annoying in X3. As in, you were more aware of her presence because you were counting down the minutes until she was gone.

[crappymovie]

No. No it's not. This has been refuted by the actors . . . and in recent X3 interviews no less. Go check out Patrick Stewart's X3 interview at IESB.net . . . there is an entire question dedicated to this rumor, in which Stewart notes he was sent a large box of comics in order to familiarize himself with his character.

And is it just me...or was Halle going in the right direction (PERSONALITY WISE) in X1? I mean, Storm had an opinion, she was compasionate, and motherly (deleted scenes with Rogue)....she was just a little weak. And her action scenes were lacking. But I really think she was paying attention to the comics...but please correct me if Storm in the comics forced her opinion upon other people, and basically nagged her teammates. Because I always remembered her as "This is my path and my choice...I will follow it, but you must follow yours."

[weatherwitch]

Hmmm...maybe so. But I think blind praise for everything related to Storm is just a little more pathetic.


You're going to have to do better than that for thinly veiled insults. Anyone who's read more than one of my posts knows I'm not Halle's biggest fan, so it's not blind praise because she's Storm. Hell, I hate the Storm T'Challa wedding and loathe the "goddess" personna stamped forever onto Ororo thanks to some very badly written issues.

Being confrontational and b*tchy seems to be more your thing than Halle's, eh crappymovie.

[weatherwitch]

Actually I'm more confused about her POV now than ever seeing as how her stance and personality in general (not to mention her accent) have been completely inconsistent throughout the three movies. What halle berry doesn't understand is that the world doesn't revolve around her. Somethings are more important than her, like story.

Blame the execs and the writers, not the actress. She didn't write the damn film. You don't like the story--blame the writers.

[iamcolossus]

Blame the execs and the writers, not the actress. She didn't write the damn film. You don't like the story--blame the writers.

Man, just because we didn't like the character doesn't mean you have to go ape s**t defending her.:marv:

[crappymovie]

Wow, an entire thread dedicated to b*tching about Halle Berry. Some of you need hobbies--outdoor type hobbies.

How do you expect people to respond to this? A little confrontational yourself, eh weather*****? Just kidding (sorry I couldn't resist.) :O

But seriously, I have nothing against Halle, but more so the way she portrayed Storm in X3. She seemed like she was just pissed off at everyone...which was a stark contrast of X2. And she seemed so narrow-minded...which really annoyed me, because she suddenly changed for no reason. I mean, she was opionated in the first two films, but she was relatively diplomatic.

And unfortunately, the "godess" persona of Storm was something she originated with...so it's probably a big part of her character.

[weatherwitch]

Man, just because we didn't like the character doesn't mean you have to go ape s**t defending her.:marv:

This isn't ape****. Dude, I still have a smile on my face. I also have no issue with people disliking Halle or Storm. Valid issues is the point. I'm just presenting counterarguements to points made. This (for the hundredth time) is simply fun for me. My down time. Please, for the love of God, don't for one minute think I take anything on a comic book forum or you all seriously. My life has waaaaaaay bigger issues, trust me.

[crappymovie]

Blame the execs and the writers, not the actress. She didn't write the damn film. You don't like the story--blame the writers.

I agree to a certain extent, Halle was directed by the script. But I'm sure Halle infused some "attitude" into those lines, which was not needed. I'm sorry for expecting Storm, the adult leader, not Storm, teenager who got stuck with the school.

[DarknessOfDeath]

after watching all of X-Men Evolution, I prefer Comic/Cartoon storm over movieverse Storm. Sorry halle...

I'm beginning to appreciate C/C storm more now. -sighs-

[DoctorBadVibes]

what happened to scott and jean should have happened to storm INSTEAD!

[DarknessOfDeath]

I prefer Comic/Cartoon Storm over Halle... :p

[crappymovie]

My life has waaaaaaay bigger issues, trust me.

So why don't you go enjoy it? Better yet, enjoy the film as well. Why even waste your time, with us fans who "have a vendetta against Storm and Halle." Because our views clearly have no merits, because Storm was just perfect.

Enjoy X3! :up:

[weatherwitch]

How do you expect people to respond to this? A little confrontational yourself, eh weather*****? Just kidding (sorry I couldn't resist.) :O

S'okay. Not confrontational. I'm mocking. :p

But seriously, I have nothing against Halle, but more so the way she portrayed Storm in X3. She seemed like she was just pissed off at everyone...which was a stark contrast of X2. And she seemed so narrow-minded...which really annoyed me, because she suddenly changed for no reason. I mean, she was opionated in the first two films, but she was relatively diplomatic.

And unfortunately, the "godess" persona of Storm was something she originated with...so it's probably a big part of her character.

See, I disagree. About the goddess thing. The Halle stuff, I agree and disagree with, depending on how it's taken. (It's all in intterpretation). I've read the books since I was 13 (I'm 28 you can do the math) and yes, she was worshipped, but she never really saw herself as "above" others. She was maternal, nurturing and giving. But recently she has become "I am a goddess, littleman, when you speak to me you shall do so with repect..." and blah, blah. That's what I mean.

[DarknessOfDeath]

what happened to scott and jean should have happened to storm INSTEAD!

what do u mean?

[weatherwitch]

So why don't you go enjoy it? Better yet, enjoy the film as well. Why even waste your time, with us fans who "have a vendetta against Storm and Halle." Because our views clearly have no merits, because Storm was just perfect.

Enjoy X3! :up:

Read the post. I am enjoying myself mocking you. It amuses me. Your views clearly have no merit? Perhaps that is true. I don't know. I don't really care. I never said antone had a vendetta. Paranoid much? I said no one had brought a valid point that couldn't be counterargued. Such is the point of debate. And X3 is playing on my other screen. So, relax, I am enjoying myself. Next will be Advent Children.

[Goddessreicho]

what do u mean?


He hates Halle, apprently that Halle-Hatin club is handing out cookies.

[weatherwitch]

He hates Halle, apprently that Halle-Hatin club is handing out cookies.

Halle and Storm haters are out like blackflies in the woods. Bloodsuckin' little bastards. LOL. They're like trolly gremlins, spawned and bred via internet. I'm done trying to even pretend I care about their opinions. I'm downright mocking the lameness of their lives where they must develop a real life hate-on for a fictional character or a woman most of them have no chance in hell in ever meeting. She's a multimillionaire and we're geeky fanboys typing ina comic forum. Yeah, Halle's hurting for our love and approval. :rolleyes:

[crappymovie]

See, I disagree. About the goddess thing. The Halle stuff, I agree and disagree with, depending on how it's taken. (It's all in intterpretation). I've read the books since I was 13 (I'm 28 you can do the math) and yes, she was worshipped, but she never really saw herself as "above" others. She was maternal, nurturing and giving. But recently she has become "I am a goddess, littleman, when you speak to me you shall do so with repect..." and blah, blah. That's what I mean.

Oh I agree there. But wasn't X3's Storm a bit more of a "goddess" then her previous incarnations? I mean, she had an opinion (which was great), but did she let Rogue have her say? No, she ended her forceful statment with an "Understand?" Goddess right there haha.

What was maternal about this Storm? Did she show anyone compassion? Her friend Jean maybe?

[iamcolossus]

how about the scenes without storm

[DarknessOfDeath]

oh...that...do u think I hate halle? I wouldn't even hurt a fly... unless Jean was out to get me ... cause I don't hate halle... I just prefer Comic/Cartoon Storm over Halle-storm. Cause I'm starting to notice the difference between the two. Like Storm has longer hair, she's tall, and...yeah...she seems really down to earth and want to help others. I came to appreciate her alot now after watching X-Men Evolution. :) I had a change of heart, but thats not to say I disliked her from the start, I liked her and now after all this, I like her even more :)

[crappymovie]

Weatherwitch from the Storm forum:
Halle and Storm haters are out like blackflies in the woods. Bloodsuckin' little bastards. LOL. They're like trolly gremlins, spawned and bred via internet. I'm done trying to even pretend I care about their opinions. I'm downright mocking the lameness of their lives where they must develop a real life hate-on for a fictional character or a woman most of them have no chance in hell in ever meeting. She's a multimillionaire and we're geeky fanboys typing ina comic forum. Yeah, Halle's hurting for our love and approval. :rolleyes:

Good to see that you respect other's opinions.

Have a good day, maybe you should join a Catwoman 2 forum as well? Because based on your comments, I'm sure you think anything Halle Berry does is epic.

[Obsidian]

That was my problem right there. Storm has no definitive personality, she's so inconsistent in the movies. In the first movie, I thought she was a regal type, a little reserved and removed from the others - very Storm-like, but a little too timid. In X2, Storm started to loosen up, seemed more Americanized, but she was still a compasionate, motherly type - ok. X3, Storm became a full American citizen, commenting on hairstyles and asking "what the hell was up?" I understand movie Storm is a different character than comic Storm...but couldn't she at least be somewhat consistent. Or was X1 and X2 Storm just "shy", and she wasn't able to comment on her love for people's hairstyles? X3 Storm nagged her teammates, shoved her opinion down people's throats, and had a relatively schizophrenic demanour: couldn't you have imagined her sweet eulogy speech to have ended with "...And you better not cry from him. I'll kill you all. Understand?.....I'm so sad! (cry)"

I must say, that's quite an accurate assessment:up:

[crappymovie]

I must say, that's quite an accurate assessment:up:

No it's not. Halle Berry's interpretation of Storm was rivaled by none. She deserves an Oscar for the gamut of emotions she played, it was remarkable. The character of Storm was perfect in every way, anyone who sees it any different it an idiotic fanboy. Clearly you didn't see the genius of PMS-ed Storm.

Really guys, it's useless talking to people like ___________ who think that everything done with the character of Storm was pure brilliance. Let them enjoy the way the character was interpreted...all three incarnations.

So....wasn't that spin Storm did SO COOL, MAN?

[The Batman]

See, this is why Phoenix fans are laughable. No one goes into the Phoenix threads posting pics of Jean rotting 6 feet under (a fact as opposed to fanboy dreaming). Or runs into the thread pointing out that without the "Phoenix" Jean Grey is nothing more than a waterdowned, rip off of Spiderman's MJ. Sad, but true.

Jean Grey: Appeared in 1963

Mary Jane: appeared in 1967

how is jean a rip off?

[crappymovie]

Jean Grey: Appeared in 1963

Mary Jane: appeared in 1967

how is jean a rip off?

I'll save you the frustration: ignore it.

Here's how a discussion would go:
-criticism of Storm
-Phoenix still sucks
-counter-argument
-Storm was amazing, you are an idiot fanboy

repeat

[iamcolossus]

looks like someone hasn't been doing their homework...

[DarknessOfDeath]

:eek: WW said that!?! :eek: :(

-cries- no one disses Jean. no no no. not in my life time.

[The Batman]

I find the rivalry between jean and storm fans funny.

[crappymovie]

I find the rivalry between jean and storm fans funny.

I'm not a jean fan. I'm a fan of the comic characters. Unfortunately :joker:

[iamcolossus]

I'm not a fan of either character but if I were to pick one to side with it would be Jean...

[The PhantaZm]

Blame the execs and the writers, not the actress. She didn't write the damn film. You don't like the story--blame the writers.

Yes but she was the one that threatened them for a more substantial part. Thats why they gave her more screen time. If she had the same amount of screentime as X2 its only because X2 was much longer.

[The Batman]

I'll save you the frustration: ignore it.

Here's how a discussion would go:
-criticism of Storm
-Phoenix still sucks
-counter-argument
-Storm was amazing, you are an idiot fanboy

repeat

no no no...i'm a glutton for punishment. i gotta hear this

i gotta hear how an all american girl with telepathic abilities who turns into a being of immense power is a rip off of a normal girl who acts like a party girl to disguise the inner pain she feels from living in a broken home.

It cant be because they happen to have red hair...

[Goddessreicho]

WHAT!

Ok X1 Storm was intolerant. All of her coversations with Kelly were about how she hated humans.

X2 She and Nightcrawler were always talking about he forgave the ones who hated him, and she couldn't. Again still the same character with the same insecurities.

X3 She is offened by the very idea of the cure. So far no change. What was she sosposed to tell Rogue. "Golly gee sweetheart, your absolutly right. You really are a waste of time because you cant have sex. Here take the SUV." She was more vocal about it because it was PLOT ESSTENTIAL!

[crappymovie]

I find the rivalry between jean and storm fans funny.

And by the way, Famke's interpretation of Jean in X3...had it's weaknesses.

Scott: "Jean? How?"
Jean: [shrugs, and smiles to self] "I don't know."

Come on, Famke, couldn't you have done it a little more confused? maybe scared?

That's my main criticism. But had she delivered more lines like "Scott, you're hair looks great!" or "Scott! What the hell are you doing wearing that read shirt! Go put on your blue one, and see my resurrection again...Understand?!?"....

haha i joke

[Goddessreicho]

No it's not. Halle Berry's interpretation of Storm was rivaled by none. She deserves an Oscar for the gamut of emotions she played, it was remarkable. The character of Storm was perfect in every way, anyone who sees it any different it an idiotic fanboy. Clearly you didn't see the genius of PMS-ed Storm.

Really guys, it's useless talking to people like ___________ who think that everything done with the character of Storm was pure brilliance. Let them enjoy the way the character was interpreted...all three incarnations.

So....wasn't that spin Storm did SO COOL, MAN?


So if I join the I-hate-Halle-cause-she-got-an-oscar-she-don't-deserve-and-has-more-attention-than-I-think-she-should-even-though-when-we-whi...err..talk-about-her-its-just-really-counterproductive club will I get cookies too. :P

[lordofthenerds]

I'm not even going to get involved. :o

[flavio_lebeau]

thank god i love both Storm and Phoenix :rolleyes:

[DarknessOfDeath]

Me Niether :(

[DarknessOfDeath]

thank god i love both Storm and Phoenix :rolleyes:

Comic/Cartoon Storm - Yes.
Movieverse/Comic/Cartoon Jean/Phoenix- Yes.

... that pretty much sums up what I feel for both ladies ;)

[Goddessreicho]

I'm hungry. I want some cookies, dammit. Feed me!

Do I have to work for my cookies? Ok then. Things that Halle is responsible for: the crappy dialog in X1, the terrible wig in X2, a career going nowhere, Catwoman, rising intrest rates, the war in Iraq, pullig the trigger on Dick Chaney's gun, the fall of ratings on NBC, the FEMA disater, cancer, Cyclops, New Jersey's mob, obesiety in children...

I want my cookies in a basket with some latose free milk.

[DarknessOfDeath]

Erm...

So LOTN...how u doing, u know what I'd like to try? Eat a SUN! :D

[RagingTempest]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tlvvXo8uYE&search=dubbed%20stand

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[PoSeiDon]

I thought her being very anti-cure spoke volumes about mutants who are comfortable with themselves when first told about it when beast arrived. And telling rogue it was nothing wrong with them or her! And her eulogy was good. storm imo had an view point in the movie. liked this storm better than the one singer wrote

[iamcolossus]

I hear the sun is guite hot

[PoSeiDon]

I'm hungry. I want some cookies, dammit. Feed me!

Do I have to work for my cookies? Ok then. Things that Halle is responsible for: the crappy dialog in X1, the terrible wig in X2, a career going nowhere, Catwoman, rising intrest rates, the war in Iraq, pullig the trigger on Dick Chaney's gun, the fall of ratings on NBC, the FEMA disater, cancer, Cyclops, New Jersey's mob, obesiety in children...

I want my cookies in a basket with some latose free milk.

:D lol

[PoSeiDon]

When is a person is successful the devil sends out his warriors! happens to everyone

[Goddessreicho]

http://aboutheheros.com/forum/veiwto...44f15f7 yup, those sum things up.

WHERE THE ****ARE MY COOKIES!!!

[Goddessreicho]

Ya'll are so frikkin right, lets re-cast storm and give her an untouchable persona, with pretentious worthless dialog. It would be like a visual retcon. No one will notice. Just like no one noticed how Singer should have cut and reshot the scenes with the "accent".

Oops I mean, DAMN U HALLE. For you (Halle), are the sole reason behind gobal warming and the high infant mortality rate in undevloped countries.

*Looks around for my cookies and latose free milk*












*AND DOESNT SEE IT*

[RagingTempest]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOfFTCYFfNU&search=x-men%20the%20last%20stand

:up:

[RagingTempest]

Ya'll are so frikkin right, lets re-cast storm and give her an untouchable persona, with pretentious worthless dialog. It would be like a visual retcon. No one will notice. Just like no one noticed how Singer should have cut and reshot the scenes with the "accent".

Oops I mean, DAMN U HALLE. For you (Halle), are the sole reason behind gobal warming and the high infant mortality rate in undevloped countries.

*Looks around for my cookies and latose free milk*












*AND DOESNT SEE IT*

:mad: Your damn right...BY GOD THIS WOMAN SUCKS, SHE RUINS EVERYTHING!!! SHE'S WORTHLESS, EVERYTIME I SEE HER ON SCREEN I WANT TO VOMIT!!! I WISH I COULD GO TO HER HOME, STEAL HER OSCAR SO WHEN SHE COMES HOME I CAN BEAT THE S*** OUT OF HER WITH IT SAYING, "MAKE ME FEEL GOOD" REPEATEDLY....AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!:down

[StormCrazy]

I wonder why they cut this shot:

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8756/storm200cl.gif

I'm thinking it was when the Brotherhood were charging at the X-Men as Storm is on the ground. Plus, she doesn't do anything when they attack, she just flies into the air after.

Grr. Stupid Fox and them cutting shots. :mad:

Is this the part where they were on a line? I compared this scene to the scene where she electricuted (spelling unsure) callisto and the background was different...so they were different scenes. They could have included this one...its like she's saying " back-off or I'll fry your a**es!"

But on the good side, we'll be seeing some scenes on DVD that were not released in theaters! That always work for me. Like Daredevil Director's Cut.

But still no origin scenes of Storm. X-Men 1.5 I know was released to add new scenes such as cyclops and storm origins. Then again they don't have the time to shoot those scenes while filming X2. Instead they use the Laurio/Mystique toilet scene which was supposed to be used for Cyclops origin scene It was Prom Night...he blasted the wall w his optic blast and created a huge hole while he was inside the CR. Now Storm's origin scene was interesting. Like in the novel (I havent read it though just heard it) she was just a kid back in africa and she was upset after she got picked on by other kids and she created snow and everyone panicked at the end, because the snow turned to hale or something like that...that would have been cool.:)

[crappymovie]

Ya'll are so frikkin right, lets re-cast storm and give her an untouchable persona, with pretentious worthless dialog.

Well, at least you already have the worthless dialogue, so be happy with what you have!

I'm glad you liked Roro-from-the block though. Understand? :up:

[Goddessreicho]

Hmmn...snobby pretentious biatchy completly worthless to the plot and little to NO interaction with other characters Storm or one that actually does more than fly the plane and tilt her head...


Let me sit here and think. Oh yeah, while I'm thinking go get my cookies!

[crappymovie]

I'm hungry. I want some cookies, dammit. Feed me!

Do I have to work for my cookies? Ok then. Things that Halle is responsible for: the crappy dialog in X1, the terrible wig in X2, a career going nowhere, Catwoman, rising intrest rates, the war in Iraq, pullig the trigger on Dick Chaney's gun, the fall of ratings on NBC, the FEMA disater, cancer, Cyclops, New Jersey's mob, obesiety in children...

I want my cookies in a basket with some latose free milk.

According to you, she's also responsible for the Earth as we know it, and the stars above. And I don't think you should have any cookies, you're already hyper and obsessive about Halle enough as it is....Calm down. Halle's portrayl of Storm (at times, in X3) was my problem. Not Halle.

I know it's difficult for you to accept any criticism of her portrayl, but it's possible. Sorry. I know...crazy eh? I mean, her performances are always flawless. Just curious: did you really enjoy Catwoman? :confused:

[crappymovie]

Hmmn...snobby pretentious biatchy completly worthless to the plot and little to NO interaction with other characters Storm or one that actually does more than fly the plane and tilt her head...


Let me sit here and think. Oh yeah, while I'm thinking go get my cookies!

Then that's different. You liked Storm for her action scenes- I thought they were good as well. Definitely better then X1 or X2. But Storm's random opinions, and the way she presented them - not as cool. I think she could have been a lot more tactful. You can have an opinion and still present it as a leader, be persuasive etc.

[crappymovie]

:mad: Your damn right...BY GOD THIS WOMAN SUCKS, SHE RUINS EVERYTHING!!! SHE'S WORTHLESS, EVERYTIME I SEE HER ON SCREEN I WANT TO VOMIT!!! I WISH I COULD GO TO HER HOME, STEAL HER OSCAR SO WHEN SHE COMES HOME I CAN BEAT THE S*** OUT OF HER WITH IT SAYING, "MAKE ME FEEL GOOD" REPEATEDLY....AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!:down

Try and read what people say before you ASSUME what they're saying. You might learn something.

[Goddessreicho]

According to you, she's also responsible for the Earth as we know it, and the stars above. And I don't think you should have any cookies, you're already hyper and obsessive about Halle enough as it is....Calm down. Halle's portrayl of Storm (at times, in X3) was my problem. Not Halle.

I know it's difficult for you to accept any criticism of her portrayl, but it's possible. Sorry. I know...crazy eh? I mean, her performances are always flawless. Just curious: did you really enjoy Catwoman? :confused:

I'm defending Halle's X3 Storm. Don't get me wrong X3 was far from flawless. There was some stuff that I hated. Like the one Rolo scene that was all soap-operaish. Ick.

BTW Catwoman was sarcastic. Jeeze why do you have to warn people around here about bloody jokes.

[crappymovie]

I'm defending Halle's X3 Storm. Don't get me wrong X3 was far from flawless. There was some stuff that I hated. Like the one Rolo scene that was all soap-operaish. Ick.

BTW Catwoman was sarcastic. Jeeze why do you have to warn people around here about bloody jokes.

Ok, cool. You saw Storm in X3 as strong, and had a clear opinion. I saw her as someone who suddenly had an opinion for the sake of having an opinion. I didn't personally like the way she presented her opinion, as if they were the rules of everyone on the team.

So two different viewpoints, neither is wrong. Debate over? :up:

[Goddessreicho]

How did you expect her to act when she found out about the cure? Had she been the same in the first two movies we wouldn't have known she had an opinon. Check out one of my previous post of what I think people think she should have said to Rogue.

She reacted the same way to a ridiculous idea that many people do. Was she unempathatic, yes. But she fights for Mutant Rights and Co-exsistance, the cure nullifies the entire point of Xavier's thing. The one that says its ok to be a muntant.

The weirdest thing was to see Storm go from blah-to opinonated in 0-60 secs. I think thats what people find not-cool.

[crappymovie]

How did you expect her to act when she found out about the cure? Had she been the same in the first two movies we wouldn't have known she had an opinon. Check out one of my previous post of what I think people think she should have said to Rogue.


Storm in X3: What kind of coward would take this cure?
Storm in X3: You don't need the cure. You know why? Cause there's nothing to cure. Nothin's wrong with us. Understand?

Storm of X2,X1 in same situation: Professor, why would anyone want this cure? We don't have anything in need of a cure.
Storm of X2,X1: We don't need the cure Rogue. We're mutants, we're not just a disease. The Professor took us in so that we could learn more about our gift. It's a part of me, just like it's a part of you now. (it's cheesy, but you get the idea.)

She doesn't have to ridicule others, or force opinions on others to get a point across. It was just out of character.....where was the tact? Dignity?

[LastSunrise1981]

Personally I've always thought that Angela Bassett would be the ideal Storm.

[Goddessreicho]

But her attitude has been building up to this explosion over the cure. Her comments to Kelly and Nightcrawler have shown that there was a heavy and aggresive opinon just beneath the surface. The cure brought it out.

The dignity was in the 'tude itself. She's proud of mutants, and the cure is a defeating the purpose of everything she stands for, and is. I wish we could have found out more about her backround. I think it would have explained her a little more.

[crappymovie]

But her attitude has been building up to this explosion over the cure. Her comments to Kelly and Nightcrawler have shown that there was a heavy and aggresive opinon just beneath the surface. The cure brought it out.

The dignity was in the 'tude itself. She's proud of mutants, and the cure is a defeating the purpose of everything she stands for. I wish we could have found out more about her backround. I think it would have explained her a littl e more.

Definitely, I just thought her aggression was a little...odd, after X1 and X2. And I think I was most bothered by the way she delivered her lines, with a bit of southerness. I remember, during the 7 minute preview when she said "Cause there's nothin wrong with us, any of us for that matter", it seemed almost comical....when did Storm start talkin tough and southern? "Cause", "Nothin"? I just didn't associate the way she delivered Storm's lines...with Storm. ButI definitely think my bias is due to the X-Men cartoons, where Storm had that accent and spoke differently. Not that that wasn't hilarious at times as well, but I thought it was a better fit.

Storm: Gambit, the term "rec room" does not mean you must wreck it.

hahaha best line.

[Goddessreicho]

True TAS did spoil alot of people. I loved that Storm because they got her right. I mean DAMN the X movies writers didn't even bother writting in her clausterphobia. That's a defining character trait.

But one thing I hated about TAS Storm was her annoucing her powers before she used them. Lol, that was the longest running joke ever. Glad that didn't happen. Could you see Halle doing that. Now that would have REALLY driven people mad!

[Goddessreicho]

Apprently a warning is needed when sarcasm is afoot.

[fallenAngel]

I personally don't think Halle takes this work that seriously. She wants to have fun with it and treats it like fluffy hollywood fair she does to pay for her indie projects. She said it herself she just wanted more physicality and a more meaningfull part, which apparently the writers thought meant give her the spot light even though they don't have the skills to make it meaningfull.

It doesn't mean she's bad, just that they should have just given her a smaller part and a better voice. It really seems like Halle, like the fans, doesn't really know what she wants and thats why the writing is so inconsistent.

I personally think Storm is the most inconsitent character in X men period. In every comic/tv show/movie/ alternate universe she is so different. The only thing that really stays the same is her powers and her appearance.

[Yellow Ranger]

is there any other actor/actress who gets as many hate threads deticated to them as halle? like, on any random day, someone gets a bug up their butt and decides, 'man, halle berry really ruined x-men and i need to express my hatred for her'. can someone just sticky a 'post your hatred for halle' thread already? sheesh.

[Goddessreicho]

Her story is even currently being retconned in the books. Nobody seems to want to stick to a single version. Or it could be that she's a versitile character. I dunno.

She's being put through the same character dryer as Iceman, with no fabric softner. When they're done they come out all stiff with cligies and they're all itchy and uncomfortable to wear. They also look and feel nothing like they did before they got washed.

[Radagast_Prime]

Well, at least you already have the worthless dialogue, so be happy with what you have!

I'm glad you liked Roro-from-the block though. Understand? :up:

LMAO!!!!

[Goddessreicho]

Roro-from-the-block went down as well as wooden Jean Grey, and wardrobe healing Wolverine.

[micky-fox]

I swear... in one day this thread has become the biggest joke. Reading through the past few pages makes me wanna take a sledge hammer to my right temple. Why can't you people ever have a civilised conversation on facts and points of view without bringing all this hate up in here? Gets a little old, guys...

[micky-fox]

:eek: WW said that!?! :eek: :(

-cries- no one disses Jean. no no no. not in my life time.

Doesn't it make you wonder how us Storm fans feel? :)

[Goddessreicho]

This is retarded. People cant stop crapping on Halle so they crap on Storm as well. In another post someone said that X1 Storm got all the screentime she needed because of Halle Berry. Yea thats right we can blame the disater of X1 Storm on Hal cause we know that she wrote, directed, and produced it. (Sarcasm)

WTF Only two characters in this trilogy have no explanation of thier life before Xavier, Cyke and Storm. Everybody else got some sort of story: Bobby, Rogue, Kitty, Wolverine, Jean. Hell even Colossus got some character devolpment...we know that he can draw.

Storm got nothing...We don't know about her clausterphobia, greenhouse, parents, it was lightly hinted at the her powers are tied to her emotions.

Seriously Halle's Hater's need thier own place to be. They got everything they want.

Good grief the studios wanted her cause she puts a$$3$ in the seats, and when given the right oppurtunity she can act very well. Even before her oscar she was well known and sought after for her skill. Some people around here need to bend over and take that.

[borinquenknight]

When does it end? Listen, you've already been warned by Lightning Strikez! Not such a good idea to disregard the advice of a mod. Put your personal opinions which are bound to upset other members in this board behind you and let's move on to an actual civil discussion of Halle/Storm (if that's ever going to be possible). Enough with the trolling, already. If you can't obey rules, then what exactly are you doing in this thread?


????Whoa! What the hell just happened? I admit to liking someone's post and doctored pic (however hurtful it may be to specific fans feelings) and now I'm being told to shut up and pretend to be like everyone else in the room or go somewhere else. I thought the picture and accompanying dialogue was hilarious point blank. If it would've featured nightcrawler lighting one of his bamf's I would've posted the same. I can appreciate comedy....so shoot me! Do me a favor and point me towards the post where Lightning Strikez warned me of whatever it was I was warned of so that I can make note of this warning. I visit this thread and many others because I like to read ALL of the discussions positive or negative, constructive or destructive. If all people that posted were Halle Berry/Storm arse buffers this wouldn't make for much of a thread. I am a fan of the Xmen as a whole. I have quite a few "favorites" in the team but I don't lift any of them over my shoulder and parade them around proclaiming their divinity or omnipotence in any way, shape, or form. For the most part I have a high level of respect for all those who post with the exception of individuals whom can't take constructive criticism. Micky I particularly like reading your feedback and those of a couple of others on comments. If you're telling me that I'm in danger of being booted out because I was a Storm Yes-Man then post a link I can use to boot myself out. What the heck is trolling anyhow?! Some please enlighten me.

[Celestio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOfFTCYFfNU&search=x-men%20the%20last%20stand

:up:

Awesome interview!

Ha it would be funny if she just flew by Wolverine in his film. :p

I'm starting to think that the flip she did on the wires is probably in the Danger Room but they decided to go with her just landing as oppose to flipping. Maybe it didn't look right or something.

[borinquenknight]

Wow, an entire thread dedicated to b*tching about Halle Berry. Some of you need hobbies--outdoor type hobbies.

All right the opposite of a Halle Berry arse kissing thread. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If someone posts something other than praise on the "Goddess" thread they get burned at the stake.

Her role was significantly more meaningful in the aspect that you knew her stance on the cure and on Jean. Anyone that says they didn't is full of crap. She never said she wanted more lines of dialogue or screentime, she said she wanted her character to have a POV and what screentime she did have be meaningful. Whether you like her or hate her, you knew what her stance was. That is meaningful.

I particularly liked Halle's role and interaction with Senator Kelly in X1 prior to his "transformatio". I also thought that her conversations with Nightcrawler on the jet concerning being a mutant and faith were pretty damn good. But it didn't seem like she tried as much in X3. Her scenes didn't seem quite as powerful. That is aside from the FX scenes.


The difference. You don't remember much about X2 because her character had no meaning. She was the handy weatherchick that made it cold.
In X3 she finally has meaningful character development.

Again her interaction with Kurt really brought some humanity to the film. I just kind of grounded everything.

It's really simple once you get past the whiney fanboy crap.

There was plenty of "whiney fanboy crap" prior to Prof X naming Storm his successor. It won't change. What matters is that we can discuss, argue, and virtually clobber each other over our X-likes and X-dislikes but still respect each other in the process.

That having been said. How the heck can an Oscar winner not maintain a decent accent? Colossus and Storm were born in Illinois!

[Celestio]

X1: "Hang on to something."

X2: "It's about to get very cold in here."

X3: "There's nothing to cure. Nothing's wrong with you, or any of us for that matter."

More meaningful. :up:

[Decay]

It's true that she wanted more screen-time...before the movie there were even rumors that she would not be in X3 because she had little parts in X1 and X2.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Storm is the only character in the movies in which I actually "see" the actor playing the character ahead of the character they are playing.

I.E.

-I don't see Ian McKellen as Magneto. I see Magneto.
-I don't see Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. I see Wolverine.

And the list goes on for like, every character in the movies.

Except Storm.

With Storm, I see Halle Berry. In a wig. Making tornadoes.

Sucks, because in the comics, I really enjoy Storm. In the movies, not as much.

[Celestio]

It's true that she wanted more screen-time...before the movie there were even rumors that she would not be in X3 because she had little parts in X1 and X2.

Please get your facts right before posting claims like that.

SHH!: So you basically told them that you wouldn't come back unless you got to do more in the movie?
Berry: That's what I threatened. (laughs) I really wasn't going to do that, but I thought that I somehow have to scare the ***** out of them and get them to give Storm a point of view, so I really didn't say that to the studio; I just sort of threw that around thinking that it will get some attention. This is all I ever wanted. Not really more screen time, because I know it's an ensemble, but if Storm spoke for 5 minutes, then I wanted it to be 5 minutes that meant something. 5 minutes of character development; 5 minutes of a point of view and 5 minutes of some back story history, not just "Go get the plane" or "Come on kids, let's go". After three movies, I really wanted her lines to mean something.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=4277

[micky-fox]

Please get your facts right before posting claims like that.

SHH!: So you basically told them that you wouldn't come back unless you got to do more in the movie?
Berry: That's what I threatened. (laughs) I really wasn't going to do that, but I thought that I somehow have to scare the ***** out of them and get them to give Storm a point of view, so I really didn't say that to the studio; I just sort of threw that around thinking that it will get some attention. This is all I ever wanted. Not really more screen time, because I know it's an ensemble, but if Storm spoke for 5 minutes, then I wanted it to be 5 minutes that meant something. 5 minutes of character development; 5 minutes of a point of view and 5 minutes of some back story history, not just "Go get the plane" or "Come on kids, let's go". After three movies, I really wanted her lines to mean something.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=4277


I speak for a select few of us when I say Halle got what she wanted. :up:

[CapBeerCino]

Wow, an entire thread dedicated to b*tching about Halle Berry. Some of you need hobbies--outdoor type hobbies.


Is this your reply to anything you don't approve? You are on this boards as well you know.

Not to say I don't agree with the rest of your post, but you cant pull out the 'it's only a movie' reply whenever it's comfortable, cause clearly you're passionate about the movie as the rest of us.

[micky-fox]

????Whoa! What the hell just happened? I admit to liking someone's post and doctored pic (however hurtful it may be to specific fans feelings) and now I'm being told to shut up and pretend to be like everyone else in the room or go somewhere else. I thought the picture and accompanying dialogue was hilarious point blank. If it would've featured nightcrawler lighting one of his bamf's I would've posted the same. I can appreciate comedy....so shoot me! Do me a favor and point me towards the post where Lightning Strikez warned me of whatever it was I was warned of so that I can make note of this warning. I visit this thread and many others because I like to read ALL of the discussions positive or negative, constructive or destructive. If all people that posted were Halle Berry/Storm arse buffers this wouldn't make for much of a thread. I am a fan of the Xmen as a whole. I have quite a few "favorites" in the team but I don't lift any of them over my shoulder and parade them around proclaiming their divinity or omnipotence in any way, shape, or form. For the most part I have a high level of respect for all those who post with the exception of individuals whom can't take constructive criticism. Micky I particularly like reading your feedback and those of a couple of others on comments. If you're telling me that I'm in danger of being booted out because I was a Storm Yes-Man then post a link I can use to boot myself out. What the heck is trolling anyhow?! Some please enlighten me.

Firstly, this is trolling...

Trolling is considered posting in an established thread for the expressed purpose of ticking off as many people as possible that would normally be reading that thread.Trolling can result in a warning or probation. Continued trolling may result in banning.

Secondly, I am not trying to target anyone personally, but as it was said exactly two posts before your own...

Now, if this photo...

http://pic19.picturetrail.com/VOL1039/1285721/10138971/154489864.jpg

...featured Cyclops in Storm's position (and condition) and was posted in the Cyclops thread, holy hell would be raised with the fans there. People need to start thinking before they post around here because obviously not everyone has the same kind of sense of humor, and others may be supersensitive. So Baredevil, please take a better consensus of the existing discussion before you post things like that...it causes unnecessary flaming.

It's not that I'm trying to be disrespectful to what you find funny, I was simply annoyed at the fact that after we were warned about offending other members by posting such pictures (which could also lead to flaming), you referred to that same picture and posted this...

I don't care what anyone else says, Bare, this is hilarious!

You might as well have said "I don't care what that mod dude said, I'm gonna bring this up again and show everyone how funny I think it looks!", which could also have led to more fights and/or upsets among some of the Storm fans who spend a hell of a lot of time in here discussing their favourite character...

I wasn't nor am I trying to target you, I'm just telling you to be a little more cautious with what you say and do here, because it can very much impact others...

Now, I'd like to forget all of this and just move on with some discussion. You down with that? :)

[micky-fox]

Is this your reply to anything you don't approve? You are on this boards as well you know.

Not to say I don't agree with the rest of your post, but you cant pull out the 'it's only a movie' reply whenever it's comfortable, cause clearly you're passionate about the movie as the rest of us.

I believe weatherwitch was referring to the people who spend a hell of a lot of their free time causing conflict among the fans of Halle. Not the people who are here discussing the movie...

[crappymovie]

X1: "Hang on to something."

X2: "It's about to get very cold in here."

X3: "There's nothing to cure. Nothing's wrong with you, or any of us for that matter."

More meaningful. :up:

Nice bias there. Why don't you choose a line from her discussion with Rogue about being a mutant from X1? Maybe a line from X2 about faith and mutancy. Or in X3 "I love what you've done with your hair!"

[crappymovie]

I believe weatherwitch was referring to the people who spend a hell of a lot of their free time causing conflict among the fans of Halle. Not the people who are here discussing the movie...

I get that as a Halle fan, threads like this would suck. But how about someone who thought her portrayl of Storm was terrible, and was a major downfall of X3? There's threads complaining about other characters....but since ones are Halle's Storm are so possible, is it plausible that people DID have concerns with her?

But I agree that people shouldn't go into the Storm "Goddess" thread and start bashing her. That's just asking for trouble, in a thread full of her fans. However, discussing her contribution in X3 is allowed, and just because you don't like what was said, you can't just disregard it as "Halle-haters." Just shows a condescending attitude.

I think we all need to leave Halle out of this, and just discuss what was wrong/right with her Storm.

[crappymovie]

True TAS did spoil alot of people. I loved that Storm because they got her right. I mean DAMN the X movies writers didn't even bother writting in her clausterphobia. That's a defining character trait.

But one thing I hated about TAS Storm was her annoucing her powers before she used them. Lol, that was the longest running joke ever. Glad that didn't happen. Could you see Halle doing that. Now that would have REALLY driven people mad!

No Halle couldn't have done that because it wouldn't have fit her personality. Someone like Angela Basett may have been able to pull it off, but not everything from that cartoon translated to the films, but I would've like the essence of those characters to have been in the film. Wolverine more of a loner, less heroic, Cyclops more commanding, Rogue a little more playful and comfortable with her powers (maybe in X2...they did this a bit though)..and Storm, just the way she acted within the team. Seemed more like a compassionate leader to me.

[micky-fox]

I get that as a Halle fan, threads like this would suck. But how about someone who thought her portrayl of Storm was terrible, and was a major downfall of X3? There's threads complaining about other characters....but since ones are Halle's Storm are so possible, is it plausible that people DID have concerns with her?

But I agree that people shouldn't go into the Storm "Goddess" thread and start bashing her. That's just asking for trouble, in a thread full of her fans. However, discussing her contribution in X3 is allowed, and just because you don't like what was said, you can't just disregard it as "Halle-haters." Just shows a condescending attitude.

I think we all need to leave Halle out of this, and just discuss what was wrong/right with her Storm.

Preach! :up:

[FNSpidey]

Come on people. Sure, X3 Storm wasn't Comic Storm, but to say X3 Storm had no more personality than the previous two films is a rather simplistic point of view.
All I got from X1 and X2 was "I hate humans" and "Watch out, big power/FX scene ahead". Maybe her personality hasn't changed much in X3, but at least she voiced her views where it mattered, not only in private conversations, while being just dressing when something had to get decided.
She showed leadership, she showed faith to the Professor, she took an active role. Her opinion on the cure and "lecture" to Rogue, her conversation with Xavier, her deciding to keep the school open, her clear thoughts about where Logan should stand...all this is not character? Maybe it isn't the character Comic Storm is, but it sure isn't the handy weather girl she was in X2.
Plus, I must state that much of the hatred about this film is somewhat unjustified. I know it had its (sometimes serious) problems, but every movie has them and X1 and X2 certainly had them too. Where was the awesome characterization in X2? Cyclops? Storm? Xavier? Jean? Iceman? Nightcrawler? Magneto?
I'm not saying people should love this film, but at least don't try and bury it just because they did some things you didn't like with your beloved characters, while elevating X2 to heavenly levels of quality.
Sorry for getting sidetracked. Carry on...

[Douces]

Storm may have had more screentime in this film, but she was still completely irrelevant to the plot of the movie. So, everything she said was fairly pointless.

I think Halle stepped her performance up a bit, bit she still had the all the intensity of a mouse and the screen presence of a rock.

[FNSpidey]

I agree. I can't say I was impressed by Halle Berry's performance, but I'm not talking about her.
She was a mutant, a protagonist and a leading member of the X-men. How was she irrelevant to the story?

[micky-fox]

Storm may have had more screentime in this film, but she was still completely irrelevant to the plot of the movie. So, everything she said was fairly pointless.

Wow... that made no sense whatsoever.

[Optic Rage]

Storm is the only character in the movies in which I actually "see" the actor playing the character ahead of the character they are playing.

I.E.

-I don't see Ian McKellen as Magneto. I see Magneto.
-I don't see Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. I see Wolverine.

And the list goes on for like, every character in the movies.

Except Storm.

With Storm, I see Halle Berry. In a wig. Making tornadoes.

Sucks, because in the comics, I really enjoy Storm. In the movies, not as much.

100% agree!

Im still waiting for Storm to show up in these movies...its not Storm..it halle berry in a white wig.

The only thing they have in common is they are both black and have weather powers

I dont blame halle.....i blame the people who casted her.....she was not the right choice to play storm.

[micky-fox]

100% agree!

Im still waiting for Storm to show up in these movies...its not Storm..it halle berry in a white wig.

The only thing they have in common is they are both black and have weather powers

I dont blame halle.....i blame the people who casted her.....she was not the right choice to play storm.

I'm guessing that's only for some people, because I actually think she was an excellent casting choice. Don't stalk me and beat me for saying it, though. People's preferences differ... some like her as Storm, some don't. But what I'm interested in finding out is how you can say she was a wrong casting and be so intense about it, when you haven't seen any other actor play Storm, which therefore means you can't possibly choose another actress and think she's a 'better' choice for Storm... why don't you just blame the writers? Or was it something to do with the voice, the look and all that?

[Optic Rage]

It has pretty much to do with everything thing about her.

Her look, The way she talked, the way she acted...etc etc

Not to mention the uniform and the accent dont help either...there is no way storm would be caught dead in the uniform from X3.

Like i said imo the only thing they did get right with storm was casting a black women to play her and give her a white wig.

And i watched kill bill last night...remember the knife fight at the start? Can you imagine Storm and callisto having a fight like that in x3. Thats why i think vivica a fox would be a brilliant storm...because there is no way halle berry could fight like Vivca did in kill bill.

Halle dosent have the presence needed to play Storm...vivica does.

[micky-fox]

It has pretty much to do with everything thing about her.

Her look, The way she talked, the way she acted...etc etc

Not to mention the uniform and the accent dont help either...there is no way storm would be caught dead in the uniform from X3.

Like i said imo the only thing they did get right with storm was casting a black women to play her and give her a white wig.

And i watched kill bill last night...remember the knife fight at the start? Can you imagine Storm and callisto having a fight like that in x3. Thats why i think vivica a fox would be a brilliant storm...because there is no way halle berry could fight like Vivca did in kill bill.

Halle dosent have the presence needed to play Storm...vivica does.

Firstly, that fight was written in the Kill Bill script.

And secondly, Vivica was trained for that fight...

[weatherwitch]

Man, I walk out of this thread and blammo, I'm talked about nearly as much as Halle. Where the heck to start...how about here:

Weatherwitch from the Storm forum:
Halle and Storm haters are out like blackflies in the woods. Bloodsuckin' little bastards. LOL. They're like trolly gremlins, spawned and bred via internet. I'm done trying to even pretend I care about their opinions. I'm downright mocking the lameness of their lives where they must develop a real life hate-on for a fictional character or a woman most of them have no chance in hell in ever meeting. She's a multimillionaire and we're geeky fanboys typing ina comic forum. Yeah, Halle's hurting for our love and approval. :rolleyes:

Good to see that you respect other's opinions.

Have a good day, maybe you should join a Catwoman 2 forum as well? Because based on your comments, I'm sure you think anything Halle Berry does is epic.
Yep, I said that. And do you know where I said that? The frikkin' Halle/Storm forum. Why? Because of a mutual respect to other threads. I do not run into the Jean thread b*tching about how Jean is nothing but a cheap MJ ripoff without the Phoenix. I do not go into the Cyclops thread and sing "ding dong the prick is dead". And if you read closely and try to comprehend the post you'll note that I use the word "we". And no I don't respect everyone elses opinions. Some people just don't deserve it. Some do.

Next:
Originally Posted by weatherwitch
Wow, an entire thread dedicated to b*tching about Halle Berry. Some of you need hobbies--outdoor type hobbies.

All right the opposite of a Halle Berry arse kissing thread. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If someone posts something other than praise on the "Goddess" thread they get burned at the stake.

I phrased it like that because in each and every thread on this board there is a Halle bashing segment. It gets really old. Hey, I've done my fair share of b*tching about Halle as Storm. I was no fan of X1 and X2. X3 has character issues as well, including Storm. I just see no point in arguing with the same set of people over and over posting the same rants they've posted on other threads. So, I'm being a bit less than uber friendly and respectful. Not burning anyone at the stake. Just not trying to sugar coat it anymore.

To the same segment from me:
Is this your reply to anything you don't approve? You are on this boards as well you know.

Not to say I don't agree with the rest of your post, but you cant pull out the 'it's only a movie' reply whenever it's comfortable, cause clearly you're passionate about the movie as the rest of us.
You need my approval? No. Okay then. I am on these boards as well. In my free time. When I am not at class, or at work, or teaching, or with my kids. I don't live for these characters. It is only a movie for me and only a comic. They can cancel X-Men as far as I care, and I guarantee I won't care. Halle Berry could stop acting and I'd be fine. Cyclops can rot, Woverine can rust, etc, etc. I come here because I do enjoy the books, and debate, but that's not happening anymore. Pejo could debate before he went all drama queen and stormed out of the forum. LS can debate. That's about the only two I can think of off the top of my head, most everyone else just pisses and moans. There's no construction behind the criticism. And sorry, but no, not passionate about the movie. I come here to unwind. If it seems that I care more than I do, it's because I like to have fun. Sometimes that includes a heated debate. The movie was good. I liked it. Will I defend it or Storm endlessly? No way in hell. It's a movie. It's a comic. It is not all that important.

And last:
I get that as a Halle fan, threads like this would suck. But how about someone who thought her portrayl of Storm was terrible, and was a major downfall of X3? There's threads complaining about other characters....but since ones are Halle's Storm are so possible, is it plausible that people DID have concerns with her?

But I agree that people shouldn't go into the Storm "Goddess" thread and start bashing her. That's just asking for trouble, in a thread full of her fans. However, discussing her contribution in X3 is allowed, and just because you don't like what was said, you can't just disregard it as "Halle-haters." Just shows a condescending attitude.

I think we all need to leave Halle out of this, and just discuss what was wrong/right with her Storm.
Finally, some common sense. You are right, I am a bit condescending. Why? Because people do go into the Storm thread and bash Halle calling her "a diseased whore" and such, and then on top of that there are bashing threads, comments in other threads and the forum is overrun. Not with civil discourse but with fanboy whining. So I apologize for coming off as condescending to those of you that want nothing more than to discuss.

[Optic Rage]

Firstly, that fight was written in the Kill Bill script.

And secondly, Vivica was trained for that fight...

Your point?

Yes i know she was trained...but i still dont see halle pulling it off nearly anywere near as good Vivica did.

Its all about the presence...halle has none...Vivica has tons.

Am i not aloud to have an opinion without someone jumping on me?

[weatherwitch]

Your point?

am i not aloud to have an opinion without someone jumping on me.

NO!!! **Tackles Optic Rage**

[micky-fox]

Your point?

Yes i know she was trained...but i still dont see halle pulling it off nearly anywere near as good Vivica did.

Its all about the presence...halle has none...Vivica has tons.

Am i not aloud to have an opinion without someone jumping on me?

I wasn't jumping on you... I am in another country, you know. :p

I wasn't metaphorically jumping either...

*jumps for the sake of it*

At first, I didn't understand what you meant. But now I think I do. You were referring to Halle bringing such a presence into her going head to head with Callisto, right? I think if given the opportunity, she could have. The way she coat-hung Callisto was great, and the look on her face, especially. It was like "Take that you smart-ass little *****!". We needed more of that.

[FNSpidey]

weatherwitch has a point. In the end, it's just a comic and it's just a film. Sure, I spend a good portion of my day discussing these (and other) films, but that doesn't mean I have to take everything personally.
I mean, look at X3, most of the criticism is "Cyke died, this movie and everything about it sucked". I'm personally a Spidey fan and I sure didn't like Green Power Ranger Goblin, or Doc Ock being ultimately good, but I'm not refusing to enjoy anything in these films. In fact, I love them. People should try to do the same. Don't love it, try to enjoy it. And if you can't, drop it, you don't have to get everyone to agree with you.

P.S.: I know someone's going to tell me "And if you love it, you don't have to get everyone to agree with you, either". But people come to these forums to talk about something they enjoy. I don't get the enjoyment in talking about something you hated.

[gap5ewl]

this is ridiculous halle berry was awesome as storm in x3. ge the **** over it damn whinners.:o im so sick of people who come on here *****ing at how much she sucks and stuff. she did an amazing job in x3 and was very believable.

[Optic Rage]

P.S.: I know someone's going to tell me "And if you love it, you don't have to get everyone to agree with you, either". But people come to these forums to talk about something they enjoy. I don't get the enjoyment in talking about something you hated.

Because it is a hell of a lot easier to hate then it is to love.

NO!!! **Tackles Optic Rage**

**Dosen't mind and in fact is quite happy**

Im such a sleez

[micky-fox]

this is ridiculous halle berry was awesome as storm in x3. ge the **** over it damn whinners.:o im so sick of people who come on here *****ing at how much she sucks and stuff. she did an amazing job in x3 and was very believable.

Wow... pump your brakes, dude. :eek:

Instead of expressing your thoughts in such a violent and rather sudden gesture, try explaining why you felt that way. Actions such as his will only bring Halle, Storm and her fans more hate... Let's try to civil it all down a bit, eh? ;)

[Guyverjay]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tlvvXo8uYE&search=dubbed%20stand


bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

"crippled man"

[micky-fox]

bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

"crippled man"

Yes, that video is hilarious, but it's being brought up way to much. Haha. :p

[gap5ewl]

Wow... pump your brakes, dude. :eek:
No because we finally get a meaningful and decent Storm in X3 and some jackass decides to make yet another thread on how much she sucked and how bad she was in this film. I'm so sick of seeing these threads this has to be the millionth one by now. Halle Berry plays Storm and did a damn fine job in it. It amazes me that people have a ***** fit about how she's nothing like the character when we have other characters who arnt exactly like their comic counterparts. It's a movie for christ sake obviously there is some difference. Get over youselves damn haters :o :mad:

[November Rain]

i feel storm's conversations with kurt in x2 were her most meaninful in the trilogy, although i didn't understand why since she was a weather god and potentially came from a aland where she had followers why she wouldn't have an understanding in devinity, it was almost as if she was an athiest.

but outting that aside, yeah, x2 was her best outing costume, wig performance.

[micky-fox]

No because we finally get a meaningful and decent Storm in X3 and some jackass decides to make yet another thread on how much she sucked and how bad she was in this film. I'm so sick of seeing these threads this has to be the millionth one by now. Halle Berry plays Storm and did a damn fine job in it. It amazes me that people have a ***** fit about how she's nothing like the character when we have other characters who arnt exactly like their comic counterparts. It's a movie for christ sake obviously there is some difference. Get over youselves damn haters :o :mad:

I agree with you on Halle doing an excellent job in the films, I'm a HUGE fan of hers and Storms... but something us Storm fans need to learn to live with is the fact that not everyone thinks the same as us. They don't share our opinions, beliefs, likes, dislikes, etc. Sure, it is wrong for people to come barging in calling her names and using criticism to get their point across, but anger will only bring more anger, and before you know it, we have a thread used only for flaming...

[borinquenknight]

Firstly, this is trolling...



Secondly, I am not trying to target anyone personally, but as it was said exactly two posts before your own...



It's not that I'm trying to be disrespectful to what you find funny, I was simply annoyed at the fact that after we were warned about offending other members by posting such pictures (which could also lead to flaming), you referred to that same picture and posted this...



You might as well have said "I don't care what that mod dude said, I'm gonna bring this up again and show everyone how funny I think it looks!", which could also have led to more fights and/or upsets among some of the Storm fans who spend a hell of a lot of time in here discussing their favourite character...

I wasn't nor am I trying to target you, I'm just telling you to be a little more cautious with what you say and do here, because it can very much impact others...

Now, I'd like to forget all of this and just move on with some discussion. You down with that? :)

Consider it squashed.

[The Batman]

I still wanna know how jean is a ripoff of mary jane, when she appeared 4 years before MJ, and has a different personality from her....

[micky-fox]

I still wanna know how jean is a ripoff of mary jane, when she appeared 4 years before MJ, and has a different personality from her....

Don't sweat over it... it was just an attempt from someone to try and target Jean. :p

[borinquenknight]

It's true that she wanted more screen-time...before the movie there were even rumors that she would not be in X3 because she had little parts in X1 and X2.

She'd actually been reported as asking the fans at comiccons to petition Fox to keep Storm and to include more of her weather powers.

[micky-fox]

She'd actually been reported as asking the fans at comiccons to petition Fox to keep Storm and to include more of her weather powers.

Keywords... 'Rumored' and 'Reported'.

[borinquenknight]

I must say, that's quite an accurate assessment:up:

I second that notion.

[Lightning Strykez!]

She'd actually been reported as asking the fans at comiccons to petition Fox to keep Storm and to include more of her weather powers.


Link please?

Storm's fanbase is huge....and according to some online stats I've read, it's likely among the largest next to Wolverine's himself. I don't think she'd have to worry about fans petitioning FOX to keep her in place...they'd cry bloody war if the character was taken out...

[micky-fox]

Link please?

Storm's fanbase is huge....and according to some online stats I've read, it's likely among the largest next to Wolverine's himself. I don't think she'd have to worry about fans petitioning FOX to keep her in place...they'd cry bloody war if the character was taken out...

That about caps it, really. The rumor is really quite absurd. :rolleyes:

[Lightning Strykez!]

Because it is a hell of a lot easier to hate then it is to

Actually I think it's more than that Optic. :cool: There's an unusual...almost neurotic focus on this character here, and I'm starting to understand why:

In the case of Storm, she is the female face of this franchise. She is played by the franchise's top actress as well. And from go, the franchise has been promoted/marketed off the strength of her appeal. From what we've been told, X3's producers and writers took great pains to cater to the demands of her fans and the actress--who just happens to have some clout in Hollywood. Whenever such efforts are put in place for another character besides Wolverine, there is going to be some heightened critiquing going on.

So I think some of this so-called "hate" is little more than stifled jealousy. It seems that some are really concerned with "proving" the worth of their favorite characters...like, some sort of validation. So what's the best way to do that? Attack the characters/actors that outshine theirs. :o It's childish.

The X-Men actors know this is an ensemble cast. But apparently some of their fans are forgetting this.

[The Batman]

if it were truly an ensemble cast, halle and hugh wouldnt have taken up so much screentime, Colossus would have more than one line, and maybe the iceman/kitty subplot wouldve actually mattered.

I for one, know the worth of my favorite X-Man, its just that fox dosent.

[borinquenknight]

Link please?

Storm's fanbase is huge....and according to some online stats I've read, it's likely among the largest next to Wolverine's himself. I don't think she'd have to worry about fans petitioning FOX to keep her in place...they'd cry bloody war if the character was taken out...

Sorry. This was out of a Wizard and it was well over a year ago. I've tried searching online but no luck. But I DID read it. Believe me several times. I didn't think it dignified of her. But this was before I was active in the forums. If anyone else can find it please post. I'd kind of like to be accurate on this one now that its disputed.

[borinquenknight]

if it were truly an ensemble cast, halle and hugh wouldnt have taken up so much screentime, Colossus would have more than one line, and maybe the iceman/kitty subplot wouldve actually mattered.

I for one, know the worth of my favorite X-Man, its just that fox dosent.

I saw the interview and it kind of seemed like crowd control. Nobody wants to be remembered for appearing greedy or conceited. But Halle's been on screen long enough to predict the consequences of her words. So if she threatened then damn sure she wasn't going to return if she didn't get what she wanted. Oh well, she got what she wanted and the characterization didn't gain from it. I would've liked to have seen a couple of lines concerning her childhood in Cairo but then again I expected her to sound like Ororo as well.

[The Batman]

I saw the interview and it kind of seemed like crowd control. Nobody wants to be remembered for appearing greedy or conceited. But Halle's been on screen long enough to predict the consequences of her words. So if she threatened then damn sure she wasn't going to return if she didn't get what she wanted. Oh well, she got what she wanted and the characterization didn't gain from it. I would've liked to have seen a couple of lines concerning her childhood in Cairo but then again I expected her to sound like Ororo as well.

I just didnt get the sense that halle was storm. whatsoever, which is what i thought her crusade was about. Sure, she says she didnt want more screentime, but the film, IMO, shows otherwise.

I know people like to think halle and hugh are kind perfect people, but they do have their careers to think about.

[borinquenknight]

It has pretty much to do with everything thing about her.

Her look, The way she talked, the way she acted...etc etc

Not to mention the uniform and the accent dont help either...there is no way storm would be caught dead in the uniform from X3.

Like i said imo the only thing they did get right with storm was casting a black women to play her and give her a white wig.

And i watched kill bill last night...remember the knife fight at the start? Can you imagine Storm and callisto having a fight like that in x3. Thats why i think vivica a fox would be a brilliant storm...because there is no way halle berry could fight like Vivca did in kill bill.

Halle dosent have the presence needed to play Storm...vivica does.

I don't think I've ever seen Vivica play anything that would make me believe she could pull of a regal Storm. Dont get me wrong I'd gladly watch Vivica on the screen, but I think we would've gotten the same out of Vivica (minus the "rumored" discontent from Halle over the character)

[S7ilver]

100% agree!

Im still waiting for Storm to show up in these movies...its not Storm..it halle berry in a white wig.

The only thing they have in common is they are both black and have weather powers

I dont blame halle.....i blame the people who casted her.....she was not the right choice to play storm.
That's really because of her status. Imagine that in B-List cast you all of a sudden spot Nicole Kidman playing Jean Grey, I doubt that you'd be thinking she played her part amazing, you'd probably only see Nicole instead of Jean. This is usually common with most big-name stars that are cast in movies based on beloved literature, comics, etc. People in the theatre's only think "Hey, that's Halle" when they see her "Oh, she's talking about some cure..but that's Halle!" Hugh works because he became a star because of the X-Men movies and people have his Wolverine in their minds while Halle was already blossoming at the time of X1

[Optic Rage]

Thats a good point...and i agree somewhat.

What If Tom Cruise was playing Cyclops. Can you imagine what that would be like?

But what about Magneto? I dont see gandalf or Ian whenever he is on screen.

Like i said its not Halles fault..its a combanation of things.

[celldog]

I don't I've ever seen Vivica play anything that would make me believe she could pull of a regal Storm. Dont get me wrong I'd gladly watch Vivica on the screen, but I think we would've gotten the same out of Vivica (minus the "rumored" discontent from Halle over the character)

http://www.soulofamerica.com/images/photosin/indpls/thumbs/Ind_Vivica_Fox-t.jpghttp://www.beautyriot.com/stuff/images/articles/approve/1664_506_VivicaFox_200272.jpg


Forgot about V-Fox. She's over 40 too.

[S7ilver]

Well talent does matter, and Halle is definately not as talented as Ian is at acting and I can admit that. Most big-names aren't the best actors in the world which sometimes really hurts their performance when not only are their portrayels not very strong but their status in Hollywood conflicts with what the director wants them to portray.

[StormCrazy]

2 pages of halle hating and counting...

[Celestio]

Nice bias there. Why don't you choose a line from her discussion with Rogue about being a mutant from X1? Maybe a line from X2 about faith and mutancy. Or in X3 "I love what you've done with your hair!"

No, I used easy examples to show a general theme.

Yes X1 and X2 have a few meaningful lines, and X3 has a few non-meaningful lines. But the majority of the meaningful ones are in X3, IMO. :)

[borinquenknight]

2 pages of halle hating and counting...

Rats! You just ended the run. Oh well. Look forward to her response to any future X-projects.

[weatherwitch]

Don't sweat over it... it was just an attempt from someone to try and target Jean. :p

Actually, no I wasn't trying to target Jean. I have no need to. I don't need to knock her down in order to justify my preference of Ororo. I said she was an MJ knock off because some years ago, and I can't remember exactly when or where, but some others (above the age of 20) may remember an interview with Stan Lee, when he stated that the character of MJ was mentally established even before Spiderman, (he referred to her as his ideal woman, if I'm not mistaken) and said that she just had no outlet. Then along comes redhaired, do good, right hand gal Jean. So that's where I get the feeling that she is a knock off. She may not be, but hey, I'm entitled to that opinion. The difference is I don't go marching into the Phoenix/Jean thread and say crap like that.

[phoenixstorm]

Storm rocked!
She just needs a solo movie now!

[StormCrazy]

borinquenknight, I don't believe it ends here...trust me

Storm rocked!
She just needs a solo movie now!

Storm is more deserving than other Marvel women out there. She's more popular than Elektra (I think) or Emma Frost who I don't think deserve her own movie. But I want to see Emma on future X-Men movie sequels though, but NOT her own movie. Although Phoenix movie maybe good but her story has been told already, We've seen her past and her present though not her future yet.

I'm not saying this because I'm a big fan, but Storm has a lot of story to tell. Her history is rich. They could show... her ancestors. How her parents met. The day she was born and her parent's reaction when they saw her. Living in new york and back to africa. The Tragedy. Her claustrophobia. Discovering her powers. Her life as a thief in Cairo. How she met T'Challa. Her life as a goddess. Meeting with Professor X. Joining the X-Men...Morlocks, Callisto, Yukio, body switch w Emma... and other never-been-told stories about her.

Her story alone is a metaphore for racial prejudice and has a social theme to it not just a superhero spin-off movie. Her struggle of being a mutant, being african-american, and being a woman. That's what makes her real, thats what makes her...HUMAN. That's why I was drawn to her because she has a lot of pain and yet she remains strong. Maybe this movie may become an eye-opener to those who single-out people because of their skin color, gender... Who knows?! And telling people that "I'm not a disease...I'm just human just like everybody else".

Don't get me wrong, I like Halle as Storm. BUT I think it would be interesting to see another actress to play the role. Also the roles of a kid and teen Ororo...:)

[borinquenknight]

borinquenknight, I don't believe it ends here...trust me



Storm is more deserving than other Marvel women out there. She's more popular than Elektra (I think) or Emma Frost who I don't think deserve her own movie. But I want to see Emma on future X-Men movie sequels though, but NOT her own movie. Although Phoenix movie maybe good but her story has been told already, We've seen her past and her present though not her future yet.

I'm not saying this because I'm a big fan, but Storm has a lot of story to tell. Her history is rich. They could show... her ancestors. How her parents met. The day she was born and her parent's reaction when they saw her. Living in new york and back to africa. The Tragedy. Her claustrophobia. Discovering her powers. Her life as a thief in Cairo. How she met T'Challa. Her life as a goddess. Meeting with Professor X. Joining the X-Men...Morlocks, Callisto, Yukio, body switch w Emma... and other never-been-told stories about her.

Her story alone is a metaphore for racial prejudice and has a social theme to it not just a superhero spin-off movie. Her struggle of being a mutant, being african-american, and being a woman. That's what makes her real, thats what makes her...HUMAN. That's why I was drawn to her because she has a lot of pain and yet she remains strong. Maybe this movie may become an eye-opener to those who single-out people because of their skin color, gender... Who knows?! And telling people that "I'm not a disease...I'm just human just like everybody else".

Don't get me wrong, I like Halle as Storm. BUT I think it would be interesting to see another actress to play the role. Also the roles of a kid and teen Ororo...:)

This is indeed might make for an interesting film. But before they do that, I think they could probably make a decent film with Psylocke and Kwannon. Include the hand and all that mess, Crimson dawn and all. But I guess your idea would touch closer to home. Question is: who would truly appreciate your film? There are plenty of individuals whom hate the Singer Xfilms (probably because it forced you think just a bit more) whom are also thriving off of Ratner's octane-filled, tractionless romp through our version of the X-mythos.

[pyro9vivacita]

Storm was really good in this movie...and I'm not a Storm fan!!! In X1 to X2 AND X3 she has stayed the same....Remember in X1 Storm -" fight with us!!" remeber that scene! Reminded me of X3 Storm -" If your with us, be with us!!" I don think Storm was being a pest in X3....She stood up for what she believed in about the cure just like Magneto did, sooo why should Storm be persecuted for her believe while Magneto has a whole army?! She told Wolverine that he knew what he had to do - meaning kill Jean!! Very smart of her she knew that if Logans love for Jean was in the way then he might not have killed her and she would have destroyed everything! My fav. line by Storm was .... "You dont wanna be here"
She knew that fog meant something bad has happened or is going to happen. That is her gift and it is connected with her emotions so she can tell from the fog that something wasnt right..She WAS NOT trying to be psychic....as some of yall have said about this line.....

[borinquenknight]

Storm was really good in this movie...and I'm not a Storm fan!!! In X1 to X2 AND X3 she has stayed the same....Remember in X1 Storm -" fight with us!!" remeber that scene! Reminded me of X3 Storm -" If your with us, be with us!!" I don think Storm was being a pest in X3....She stood up for what she believed in about the cure just like Magneto did, sooo why should Storm be persecuted for her believe while Magneto has a whole army?! She told Wolverine that he knew what he had to do - meaning kill Jean!! Very smart of her she knew that if Logans love for Jean was in the way then he might not have killed her and she would have destroyed everything! My fav. line by Storm was .... "You dont wanna be here"
She knew that fog meant something bad has happened or is going to happen. That is her gift and it is connected with her emotions so she can tell from the fog that something wasnt right..She WAS NOT trying to be psychic....as some of yall have said about this line.....

No offense Pyro, but since when does fog mean danger is imminent or cause for alarm (except ofcourse when you driving on an open road).

[weatherwitch]

No offense Pyro, but since when does fog mean danger is imminent or cause for alarm (except ofcourse when you driving on an open road).

I think in this case, seeing as how Storm is emotionally connected to the weather and a manipulator of it, she would be able to sense an "unnaturalness" about the fog.

[pyro9vivacita]

Oh k since when did clouds mean something is wrong? Storms emotions is connected to the weather....so if its foggy Im sure she can tell that something isnot right plus all through out the movie when she use her fog she was trying to hid something that was going to happen....When they came up with the plan to defeat Magneto with the cure...she used her fog to hide them Im sure Magneto knew that the X-men had a plan but he didnt know what......... Do you see what I mean???

[borinquenknight]

I think in this case, seeing as how Storm is emotionally connected to the weather and a manipulator of it, she would be able to sense an "unnaturalness" about the fog.

Hmm...by that token would she have been so easily able to clear it? And as a matter of fact it might've added a little depth if Storm would've said something to that effect. But thats just me.:O

[weatherwitch]

Oh k since when did clouds mean something is wrong? Storms emotions is connected to the weather....so if its foggy Im sure she can tell that something isnot right plus all through out the movie when she use her fog she was trying to hid something that was going to happen....When they came up with the plan to defeat Magneto with the cure...she used her fog to hide them Im sure Magneto knew that the X-men had a plan but he didnt know what......... Do you see what I mean???

Already answered this. She is connected to the weather. She senses the ocean tides in her womb for crying out loud. So yes, for her, on a very fundamental level the patterns of the clouds could indeed indicate something is wrong. If they were formed unnaturally say by a telekinetic heat rising from the lake, she'd uh, know that they weren't right. Simple.

[weatherwitch]

Hmm...by that token would she have been so easily able to clear it? And as a matter of fact it might've added a little depth if Storm would've said something to that effect. But thats just me.:O

Yes, it would still be easy, because it's still just fog. But you're right. I wish they'd added some of the elements from the book into the film. THat would make things easier, especially for those that don't read the comics.

[pyro9vivacita]

Oh lol I was agreeing with you I know that...lol I was trying to make a point

[borinquenknight]

Oh k since when did clouds mean something is wrong? Storms emotions is connected to the weather....so if its foggy Im sure she can tell that something isnot right plus all through out the movie when she use her fog she was trying to hid something that was going to happen....When they came up with the plan to defeat Magneto with the cure...she used her fog to hide them Im sure Magneto knew that the X-men had a plan but he didnt know what......... Do you see what I mean???

Sorry but it doesn't make sense (atleast not me). Her powers can inadvertantly manifest her inner emotions if she is not careful, this much is true. She has used her abilities in the past to aid in masking their prescence, again true. When Storm is upset the ambient weather reflects this. But Earth doesn't give her clues as to what's going on (atleast not clues this obvious). Unless ofcourse there is a manifestation of her powers I've missed. Please clarify.

[StormCrazy]

This is indeed might make for an interesting film. But before they do that, I think they could probably make a decent film with Psylocke and Kwannon. Include the hand and all that mess, Crimson dawn and all. But I guess your idea would touch closer to home. Question is: who would truly appreciate your film? There are plenty of individuals whom hate the Singer Xfilms (probably because it forced you think just a bit more) whom are also thriving off of Ratner's octane-filled, tractionless romp through our version of the X-mythos.

I know that not all get to appreciate Storm. You're right. But not everyone get to appreciate Elektra either... and she had her own movie. It was an action movie w/ effects and everything. But Storm movie is like action/ sci-fi/ superhero with social relevance all in one. Just like X-Men trilogy but this time it's her story. Because obviously we haven't seen her origin yet. It's always Wolverine, Jean Grey...

But if the movie won't make it. At least a prequel to the franchise would be great. Every character's origins will be shown. Their lives before they became X-Men will be shown. The search of Professor X and magneto for mutants who would become the X-Men in the future like Cyclops, Storm, Beast...These are some who's past has not yet been revealed in the movie and Jean's story as well and maybe Wolverine's and Rogue's story. The formation of the brotherhood. Mystiques origin. I think that would be cool...:)

[Lightning Strykez!]

The "You don't want to be here" line I thought was terrible writing. Just...clunky.

And I didn't take it as Storm responding to unnatural fog. I interpreted it as her giving a subtle, low jab at Logan about being in a place that reminded him of Jean--a woman Storm knew he had feelings for. It was kinda like a knock on him...a "love tap" if you will. And he got the point, because he fired back "Do YOU?", which was a retort.

[Angry Sentinel]

Well, I'm not bashing Halle, or Storm, and I can see we had more emotion from Storm this time. Which was nice to see, since it was FINALLY introduced in X2. But that was mostly the extent of her expanded role. Where were her origins? Where was her teaching? Where was the Leader? I really expected to see Storm LEAD in this movie. I was certain that an expanded role would mean that. I was equally dissappointed that she got the same "screensaver" treatment that Cyclops got in X1. Anything that was done as far as portraying Storm as a leader, was trumped by their wonderful Wolverine.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Angry! LOOOONG time no see bruh. Where have you been?

[Angry Sentinel]

Man, I tried to holla like 12 pages back.

Lightning... wassup,

'Mod-dem' must be rough, I rarely see you post any more.

I've been here, just not like I used to. I know you will steer clear of some of the disagreements around here, but I'm a little surprised I didn't see a review from you... What did you think?

[Celestio]

I think the best scene to show Storm as a leader was when they were in the mansion and Beast was talking about closing the school. Storm stood up and announced that it was still a safe place for mutants and the kids wouldn't have to be sent home.

One of my favourite scenes. :up:

[X-Maniac]

There were a lot of good things about Storm this time round, for sure... she was more 'vocal', she flew, and I love the balcony scene (showing emotional link with the weather) and the eulogy.

What's still missing is an origin scene and some more subtle, less obvious use of weather powers... altering air pressure (to thin the air and make it hard for someone to breathe, or to explode a building, or create a deflecting 'pressure field'), using 'ball lightning' like a lamp to light the way through darkness, torrential rain to douse a fire, a mini-hurricane....

We've seen enough fog and lightning now!

[Lightning Strykez!]

I've been here, just not like I used to. I know you will steer clear of some of the disagreements around here, but I'm a little surprised I didn't see a review from you... What did you think?

I'll be dropping a little something on my views of the film soon. ;)

[DarknessOfDeath]

why soon? i mean you had two weeks dude. :p

[Chris Wallace]

http://www.soulofamerica.com/images/photosin/indpls/thumbs/Ind_Vivica_Fox-t.jpghttp://www.beautyriot.com/stuff/images/articles/approve/1664_506_VivicaFox_200272.jpg


Forgot about V-Fox. She's over 40 too.
Yeah, but she has some artificial ingredients.

[Douces]

In the case of Storm, she is the female face of this franchise. She is played by the franchise's top actress as well. And from go, the franchise has been promoted/marketed off the strength of her appeal. From what we've been told, X3's producers and writers took great pains to cater to the demands of her fans and the actress--who just happens to have some clout in Hollywood. Whenever such efforts are put in place for another character besides Wolverine, there is going to be some heightened critiquing going on.


Yes, Halle was the female face of the films, but she was never the main female presence in the films. Sure, Storm got more screentime this time around, but it was fairly inconsequential; Storm's actions never drive the story forward.

Jean has actually been the female lead in the last two films, marketing notwithstanding.

[Chris Wallace]

Yes, Halle was the female face of the films, but she was never the main female presence in the films. Sure, Storm got more screentime this time around, but it was fairly inconsequential; Storm's actions never drive the story forward.

Jean has actually been the female lead in the last two films, marketing notwithstanding.
That right there is the problem w/making a movie like "X-Men"; everybody's got a favorite character & chances are, your fave won't get the screentime/cation/focus you feel he or she deserves. Because Wolverine is overall the most popular of the X-Men, most of the story is devoted to him. Because he's hot for Jean moreso than for Storm, more focus is put on her. I love Storm. Almost as much as that guy does.
<----
And while I don't think she was truly done justice in the films, I'm happy w/her portrayal simply because I've long since accepted that she's not a central character therein. Who knows? Maybe in future installments that'll change.

[Bishop2]

Okay, here's something I'm debating with a friend...

Does Storm just shoot lightning from her hands, or does it come from somewhere else? Does she summon it from the sky or from nearby sources of eletricity, for example? I always pictured her having to DIRECT lightning through her body, but she couldn't just like, fire it off at will from the palms of her hands.

[S7ilver]

It can come come straight from her, something to do with her metabolism I think..

[Yellow Ranger]

does storm have control over volcanos?

[Goddessreicho]

Okay, here's something I'm debating with a friend...

Does Storm just shoot lightning from her hands, or does it come from somewhere else? Does she summon it from the sky or from nearby sources of eletricity, for example? I always pictured her having to DIRECT lightning through her body, but she couldn't just like, fire it off at will from the palms of her hands.

Well its been stated by Marvel that she is basically a living conductor. So techincally it would have to come from somewhere else to go through her, but we have all seen her in the books create lightning from her hands. So...its probably both.

[CapBeerCino]

To the same segment from me:

You need my approval? No. Okay then. I am on these boards as well. In my free time. When I am not at class, or at work, or teaching, or with my kids. I don't live for these characters. It is only a movie for me and only a comic. They can cancel X-Men as far as I care, and I guarantee I won't care. Halle Berry could stop acting and I'd be fine. Cyclops can rot, Woverine can rust, etc, etc. I come here because I do enjoy the books, and debate, but that's not happening anymore. Pejo could debate before he went all drama queen and stormed out of the forum. LS can debate. That's about the only two I can think of off the top of my head, most everyone else just pisses and moans. There's no construction behind the criticism. And sorry, but no, not passionate about the movie. I come here to unwind. If it seems that I care more than I do, it's because I like to have fun. Sometimes that includes a heated debate. The movie was good. I liked it. Will I defend it or Storm endlessly? No way in hell. It's a movie. It's a comic. It is not all that important.


You're a teacher? You have kids? You learn something new every day...

[micky-fox]

Well its been stated by Marvel that she is basically a living conductor. So techincally it would have to come from somewhere else to go through her, but we have all seen her in the books create lightning from her hands. So...its probably both.

I'm guessing both. She channels the bolts through her body and directs them. But yes, we do see her project lightning or electricity from her body as well in the comics, so it's both. I think she mainly uses lightning channelling because it's a hell of a lot stronger than simple electricity.

[Bishop2]

Hmm, how do you think it works in the movies then?