"By The Goddess": The Official Storm/Halle Berry Discussion

[addismad]

good stuff

[JP]

yippy skippy

[Electrix]

She seem excited and happy to be part of X3...

[micky-fox]

She did, didn't she. I am so glad she is involved in it.

[kittykatkr]

Go Halle!!! She is going to be amazing in this film, I know it.

[micky-fox]

As do I! Go Halle!

[Mr Sensitive]

Go Halle! (away from X3)

Sorry people, I couldn't help it.

[Ions]

Go Halle! (away from X3)

Sorry people, I couldn't help it.Hahahah! :D Nicely done. Look's like they killed brat, so we have to make do with these minor attempts at Halle.*waits for the pro-Storm people to swarm in and redicule Mr Sensitive* :hulk:

p.s. Halle is a weak, ineffective Storm. :cyclops:

[Handyman]

i have faith in this woman to pull off what the writer gives her.bear in mind though, that it is the director's vision which an actor is required to convey, hence why she may have appeared a little weak in the first two movies in some fans minds.while catwoman was mostly below par (putting it lightly, although i wanted it to be great) she did convey sexiness and strength (im asking for trouble, but what the hey...)

[TNC9852002]

Is it May 06 yet?.. :(

-TNC

[The Original Bamfer]

Is it May 06 yet?.. :(

-TNC

:confused: :(

[the a1ant]

Is it May 06 yet?.. :(

-TNC

NO!

;)

[Angry Sentinel]

Is it May 06 yet?.. :(

-TNC

July 8, came and went, now you got no-where to run Avenger guy! Stand and face the music....

X3 is the next Big boat setting sail, so get on board cause this baby's unsinkable!

Hmmm... wasnt there another big unsinkable boat once, I wonder what happened to it? http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon9.gif

[the a1ant]

We only have ten months till X3, and filming hasn't started yet. When you think of it like that, it's pretty scary :eek:

[The Original Bamfer]

We only have ten months till X3, and filming hasn't started yet. When you think of it like that, it's pretty scary :eek:

Have ye lost Faith?

(P.S. - make me a super cool avatar and I won't be mad at you anymore ;))

[aaron]

yeah, a1ant avatar is very cool

[micky-fox]

I haven't seen that movie...

[Jan Irisi]

Found this over at Comicscontinuum...........

* In an e-mail to her fan club, Halle Berry has confirmed her participation as Storm in the third X-Men movie.

"I've been laying low trying to take a much needed-rest and now I am ready to hit the ground running with my 'X' suit on!" Berry wrote.

[snwboarder88]

Good! Im excited for her, storm gonna kick ass in this movie

[gap5ewl]

i just saw her on that showbiz tonight show towards the end of her interview and all they talked about with her was x3! all i caught was her saying "This is the last film. so expect it to have a very big ending." hmmm interesting wonder what she ment by that

[the a1ant]

Have ye lost Faith?

(P.S. - make me a super cool avatar and I won't be mad at you anymore ;))

This is a REALLY old avatar, lol. I don't have the program to make 'em anymore :(

Also, I definently haven't lost faith. I'm just saying it's strange knowing that X3 will be out in ten months. Woah :D :p

[aaron]

yeah, its abit weird.

[newwaveboy87]

less then a year...amazing

so that makes the X movies have come out for me in 8th, 10th, and freshman year in college wow...seems like yesterday i was watching the cartoon when it was new

[CoolCat]

Here's what I'm wondering, what if they already started filming, but word just hasn't leaked yet, or they want the public/fans to worry and then *BAM* they tell us the films already done? I'm sure they're doing sfx testing and what not. Sometimes it doesn't even take six months to finish principal photography on a big budget film, it can even be done in less. I'll still be optimistic up to opening day, and then I'll see what we're given. Also, it's not like the studio can't switch the date if they need more time.

[micky-fox]

Yeah.

[X-Maniac]

I think it's good for everyone to aim for the May release date. Deadlines are set as targets - I should know, I work to multiple deadlines every day. We don't always meet them, but they are there as targets and there has to be good reason not to meet them. It gets everyone in a mood of activity and determination if they have something to aim for - stops people 'faffing' around and dithering, they are forced to get things moving, to make the best possible decisions. A bit of pressure and adrenalin is good. The release date may end up being moved, but it's there as something to aim for.

[Ions]

Here's what I'm wondering, what if they already started filming, but word just hasn't leaked yet, or they want the public/fans to worry and then *BAM* they tell us the films already done? I'm sure they're doing sfx testing and what not. Sometimes it doesn't even take six months to finish principal photography on a big budget film, it can even be done in less. I'll still be optimistic up to opening day, and then I'll see what we're given. Also, it's not like the studio can't switch the date if they need more time.Yeah...that's not gonna happen. Considering how late things were being set up for filming. There's alot of planning needed to make movies. I worry the quality won't be there with just 10 months to do it all in. It's possible, just not very likely. :xmen:

[LMason]

A brief mention in the Daily News today:
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Last week, Berry posted a message to Londoners on her Web site with her prayers, encouraging them to try to keep "experiencing joy."

And that's something the Oscar-winner seems to be doing more and more. She finalized her divorce from Eric Benet in January, and has signed to do "X-Men 3."

"I learned a long time ago that you have to be part of the commercial life of this business if you want a long career," she told us. "And to be able to do the art movies, the movies from the heart."
---

Before you start bashing her, please remember the Alan Cumming "Hollywood bank" comment.

[Ions]

Before you start bashing her, please remember the Alan Cumming "Hollywood bank" comment.Duly noted, and completely ignored. This is the Storm/Halle thread! The very place to come start bash..er I mean to start discussing Halle! And your post gives me plenty to post about. :unishr:


"I learned a long time ago that you have to be part of the commercial life of this business if you want a long career," she told us. "And to be able to do the art movies, the movies from the heart."Is she explaining with this that she does films like Catwoman/Xmen to suck up to the "commercial life of this business" and then has the free time to do art films from the heart like Monster Ball? You know, that one where she sleeps with a white guy then gets an oscar? Then there's the topless stuff in Swordfish, was that to give her more room to do Monster's Ball? :yellow:
Or is the Master's Balls just the sucking(sic) up to the business deal, and then she does art films like Gothika? I'm deeply confused by what she said over here. Can someone translate this to english for the non-fanboi? Be muchly appreciate, Thanks. :up:
[Ions puts away his Deranged-Starlet to English dictionary, noting what a waste of money it was]:down:

[spark627]

i find it ironic that halle made this comment, considering she has done... what? 2 'artsy' movies? everything she does is big and commercial: x1,2,3, catwoman, james bond, robots, swordfish, her revlon commercials etc


whatever, all long as she kicks some butt as storm

[Xfanfan]

Hi

Just wanted to say that Halle got nominated for an Emmy I am happy for her. Plus the movie she co produced Lakawana Blues has several nominations too, that is great.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/14/earlyshow/leisure/main709107.shtml

Xfanfan

[gap5ewl]

yeah halle!

[Jan Irisi]

I know this is a Halle thread, but Hugh Jackman got an Emmy nod as well, for hosting the Tony Awards.

[Electrix]

Halle Berry is returning as Storm in X-Men (../news/x-mennews.php?id=3283#) 3, and 'BJ' says the actress (../news/x-mennews.php?id=3283#) appeared on CNN yesterday and talked about the third installment:

Halle Berry was interviewed on CNN's Showbiz Tonight last night (7/13) and mentioned a few details about X3. Most notably she stated that it was the last X-movie they would make to complete a trilogy. I saw the piece at work, so I know very few details about the rest of her interview.

XMenFilms.net (http://www.xmenfilms.net/xnews/49.html) tells us Halle Berry appeared in New York to present $150,000 to the American Heart Association, on behalf of Oral B.

She spoke with EXTRA about X3. "Maybe the producers will let me use this cape that I've worn for two movies now, and never use." said Berry. So now I'm hoping Storm is going to fly! Not the plane, I'm not talking about the plane! Fly!"

Later (at the same event), she talked to ACCESS HOLLYWOOD, and revealed even more of her plans for X3! "I'm working out with my trainer, Harley so I can get that Storm superhero body back together."

But lets not stop there. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT got the longest quote from her about X3! They caught up with her at the same event, and Berry tried to give info, without revealing much. "It [X3] is in production. Storm's going to fly...I hope! There's going to be lots of...there's going to be some new X-Men characters from the comic book series that you haven't seen before. And it is the end, so prepare for some big, you know...ending, if you will...to occur.

Halle recently said the following bit on her official website (http://hallewood.com/halle-says.htm):

I've been laying low trying to take a much needed rest and now I am ready to hit the ground running with my "X" suit on! :)

Berry also received an Emmy nomination for her role in "Their Eyes Were Watching God" this morning, and "Lackawanna Blues," which she executive-produced, received nods as well. You can view the list of nominees here (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=10373).

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[Handyman]

i know this is really random, but can i just ask if anyone remembers why the cast turned on brian singer after he took a pain killer (i realise that this is not specifically what happened but its the gist) and halle responded with "you can kiss my ass" - i just remembered parts of that story and it made me laugh.

[gap5ewl]

it was "kiss my black ass" and i think he had a little addiciton to it at the time thats why the cast and him had a little fallout that they kept very quiet about

[DrVenkman90]

i am so sick of her

[Electrix]

i am so sick of her

Fair enough...

[DrVenkman90]

she is so annoying too.... I dont have a big enough part blah blah blah

[Electrix]

she is so annoying too.... I dont have a big enough part blah blah blah

I'm sure every other cast memeber wants their character to have a bigger and better part...

[Pickle-El]

I'm sure one of her requirements for X3 was to have a much bigger part....so be happy people.

Wolverine (the one who people complained had too much screentime) will now make way and give all his unnecessary screentime to.......Storm.

Yikes.

[DrVenkman90]

but she had a big part to begin with

[Electrix]

So did the X-Jet....

We got to see if fly and dodge and do what it can do, but we didnt see how it works and what makes it work. Like Storm....we got to see her use her powers but apart from that we know nothing about her as a person...apart from she hates humans which we've been told in both movies. We wernt told why, just that she doesnt like them.

We wernt told why she is with Xavier. How she got where she was. Why she is doign what she is doing. Why is she a leader. Why is she scared of small spaces. Were she comes from. What makes her tick. What makes her happy. Why is she strong. How did she become strong. What events changed her life.

We know nothing.

[The Guard]

Use your imagination. And some common sense.

[Electrix]

I could have said that about Wolverine....but noooo we had to find out about his life.

It took a matter of 20 seconds for us to know that Nightcrawler was religious, german, used to be in the circus, had amazing fighting skills and could teleport. Why have they taken 2 movies and still nothing with Storm? Laziness from the creative team.

[the a1ant]

Hey guys,

If you want the video of Halle talking about X3 (all her quotes are on this one 19mb real media video file), then PM and I'll give you the link to the website where it's at. I'm saying to just PM me, because the guy's site has limited bandwidth, and the files are only supposed to be for fans of Halle Berry, lol. So if you strongly dislike Halle, don't PM me, lol. :o :p

[DrVenkman90]

i am fine

[CoolCat]

I could have said that about Wolverine....but noooo we had to find out about his life.

It took a matter of 20 seconds for us to know that Nightcrawler was religious, german, used to be in the circus, had amazing fighting skills and could teleport. Why have they taken 2 movies and still nothing with Storm? Laziness from the creative team.


Two movies and we still don't know anything about any character other than Magneto and Nightcrawler. Just a little with bobby. What have they been doin'? Wolverine was the center of both films and we still don't know anything about his past. Nothing about weapon X and his relationships with Sabertooth and things of that nature. I understand that the first superhero movie film is always an origin story, so I can frogive it being slow, but I should know a lot about the main players. All I'm sayin'...

[CoolCat]

but she had a big part to begin with


...

[DrVenkman90]

... yourself

[JP]

Everything we have learned about Wolverine in both movies IS his history. There really isn't anything more we need to now. Acording to the moviverse, he has no relationship with Sabortooth.

[DrVenkman90]

Now we need to look to the future

[The Guard]

I could have said that about Wolverine....but noooo we had to find out about his life.

It took a matter of 20 seconds for us to know that Nightcrawler was religious, german, used to be in the circus, had amazing fighting skills and could teleport. Why have they taken 2 movies and still nothing with Storm? Laziness from the creative team.

Perhaps. Laziness from Halle, too. If the woman could act or chose to act in certain situations, we'd know Storm was a badass, too. Knowing Storm's past is not integral to the story. You can make some educated guesses about what she's doing with this version of the X-Men, why she hates people, etc.

[DrVenkman90]

cool

[JP]

Wait! Did I hear correctly or did Halle say (on Access Hollywood) that she starts work on Thursday for X Men 3?


EDIT: My mistake. :D

[DrVenkman90]

aww.... get a guy shook up over nothing

[moonstar]

Halle Berry on CNN & EXTRA about X3. "Maybe the producers will let me use this cape that I've worn for two movies now, and never use." I'm hoping Storm is going to fly! I'm not talking about the plane! Fly!"

If they finally let her fly I hope she takes some theater-movement/acting classes so she doesn't look as stiff as she did in the first x-men movie doing her elevator lightning glide.:o Act like you're really doing it! Heck rent Superman! Christopher Reeves was a master! Even Dean Cain made it look believable on tv.:supes:

If its gonna look like shes a floating constipated blob save the effex for another character! Lightning wielder note : No limp arms!!!!!!!! l i g h t n ing*!

Later she talked to ACCESS HOLLYWOOD: "I'm working out with my trainer, Harley so I can get that Storm superhero body back together."

What 's the point of being more in shape if you can't see your body at all in that space looking suit?

1. Get them to make a black (spandex?) version of her original bikini cutout get up from Giant size xmen-that will bring halle all the attention! The cape on it will look awesome.
2. Also try freshlook colorblends contacts in sapphire blue they can cg it to perfection you have to try them on a couple of times before they are confortable/wearable. Dunno if she'll try it i think she hurt her eye on a bond movie-
3. Get a longer wig....
and try to rock ororo's O headpiece...
For those who think the outfit is too risque -if not in this movie when will we ever see it?
Congrats Halle on the Emmy's! At least Halle's always working- an achievement in itself!:xmen: :xmen: :xmen:

[Slim_X]

Cool quotes! :) I'm really happy she's back.

[CASHMERE]

uh just a thought for Halle fans do you guys think its wise for Halle to be Number 1 on the call sheet if the movie sucks obviously haters will use this against her =(

[Electrix]

Whats the call sheet?

[Slim_X]

uh just a thought for Halle fans do you guys think its wise for Halle to be Number 1 on the call sheet if the movie sucks obviously haters will use this against her =(
Even if the movie doesn't suck haters will still bash her.

Hey ant could you PM me the link to the interviews?

[CASHMERE]

its like the credits

[Electrix]

Well they will put Anna Paquin last as usual. Depending on the screentime and character involvement the cast could be anywhere. Halle will be in the top 5 though.

[JP]

Why is it that when an actor has one many awards they always put there name last with "and" in front of it.

[Slim_X]

Well they will put Anna Paquin last as usual. Depending on the screentime and character involvement the cast could be anywhere. Halle will be in the top 5 though.
I think it'll be as usual.

Patrick S, Hugh J, Ian M, Halle B, Famke J, James M, Rebecca R and the rest I dunno maybe after Rebecca it'll be Vinnie J and before her Kelsey G.

[Ions]

So if you strongly dislike Halle, don't PM me, lol.Awww that's prejudice! It's alive and well. :( :daredevil [Ions doesn't PM a1ant]

Even if the movie doesn't suck haters will still bash her.
Truer words have never been spoken. :wolverine
Heck if my sig could fit that quote in, i'd add it. :cyclops:

Why does Halle seem unsure about whether she's flying or not? I would of thought it would be decided since its just over 2 weeks from the start of filming. I'm doubting they'd just decide during a scene, "Oh what the heck, lets have Storm fly!" Just for the sake of it... I find that unlikely. :wolverine

[Slim_X]

Just saw the interviews, she looks excited about X3 :D I luv her

[DrVenkman90]

shes okay

[Electrix]

Why does Halle seem unsure about whether she's flying or not? I would of thought it would be decided since its just over 2 weeks from the start of filming. I'm doubting they'd just decide during a scene, "Oh what the heck, lets have Storm fly!" Just for the sake of it... I find that unlikely. :wolverine

If you noticed she has said it in every interview. When asked about X3 she says somthing about excited and then something about flying. Its what she does. Its safe. The interviewers get their thing on X3. The fans get an interview with Halle about X3. If she said anything else about her character it could give the storyline away.

[CoolCat]

Everything we have learned about Wolverine in both movies IS his history. There really isn't anything more we need to now. Acording to the moviverse, he has no relationship with Sabortooth.

According to the movieverse? I thought this was a comicbook based movie! Silly me.

[JP]

According to the movieverse? I thought this was a comicbook based movie! Silly me.

Yes, silly you. I dont know if you've noticed, but the movies are an entirely different universe than the comics. I didn't think it was that hard to realize.

[EnSabahNur]

yes and no jp, all the different xmen comics are diferent, the movie takes bits and pieces from them.. but yes i do see where your coming from

[DrVenkman90]

i agree

[Slim_X]

There are some cool pics of Storm at http://www.loganandmarie.com/OrorosGallery/TheMunroeGallery.htm

[DrVenkman90]

cool

[CoolCat]

That last one's tight because it looks like she's being carried by the wind.

[JP]

This thread need some spice. Okay, I desided to do a little drawing of how I want Storm to look in X3.

Before Mathew left he said he wanted the costumes to be sexier. And now that Ratner's on board... well its Ratner, so we can likely expect some sexier costumes for the ladies.

Anyways....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/vegeta142003/halle2.jpg

[snwboarder88]

nice...

[JP]

well thanks

[CASHMERE]

its cute Halle has worn short hair like that before like in Catwoman...although i think the shoulder pads should go imo it will look ugly in real life.

[The Original Bamfer]

This thread need some spice. Okay, I desided to do a little drawing of how I want Storm to look in X3.

Before Mathew left he said he wanted the costumes to be sexier. And now that Ratner's on board... well its Ratner, so we can likely expect some sexier costumes for the ladies.

Anyways....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/vegeta142003/halle2.jpg

:up: I like it, but I am not fond of the hair style. I want her hair to be longer than X2's hair and to be pulled back in a long flowing, uh... pony tail... sort of like in Ultimate. The shoulder pads are interesting, and though they may not work well in real life I do like how you tied the old costume in with the new idea... a sexier costume. I also am not sure about the pants anding lossly at the bottom, I like high boots on women... my thing... :o so, yeah, anyway. If there was one costume that was made to be sexier for the new movie, I'd want it to be very similar to your ideas because, like I said before, you tied the older costume in to it, so there is continuity. I like continuity.

[JP]

:up: I like it, but I am not fond of the hair style. I want her hair to be longer than X2's hair and to be pulled back in a long flowing, uh... pony tail... sort of like in Ultimate. The shoulder pads are interesting, and though they may not work well in real life I do like how you tied the old costume in with the new idea... a sexier costume. I also am not sure about the pants anding lossly at the bottom, I like high boots on women... my thing... :o so, yeah, anyway. If there was one costume that was made to be sexier for the new movie, I'd want it to be very similar to your ideas because, like I said before, you tied the older costume in to it, so there is continuity. I like continuity.



Yeah, I just basically took the old costume and cut the arms and belly off. I always had a thing for Storm with short hair, so thats why I did that. Her hair seems to be getting shorter with every movie, so this just seemed more realistic.

I didn't want to keep the shoulder pads, but there was no were else to attach her cape.

In the picture I used, here pant bottoms were a little baggie, but I kinda over did it.

[Ions]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/vegeta142003/halle2.jpg
Nice, I like it. Certainly makes light of a bad situation(what with Halle still being Storm). :up: Heck with that length, they could grow out Halle's own hair and dye it. Perhaps then it won't look so fake. :thing:

[Slim_X]

If they dye her hair white won't it end up looking blonde like Anna's hair in X2? I don't think a wig is such a bad idea.

[spark627]

halles hair would be destroyed if they attempted ot dye it white. im surprised anna offered to have it done.

[Electrix]

Halle has grown her hair so that she can cut it for a film of hers that she'll be doing after X3 I think. She has grown it long so its more shocking when she cuts it short.

Halle needs a longer wig for X3....and one that doesnt make it look like a wig. I doubt she will have short hair for X3. They wont change the character that dramatically. People know her for having long white hair. I suppose she could lose it half way through the film, something happens which makes her lose he hair or it gets cut be accident but apart from that I think it will be long.

[Kmack]

If they dye her hair white won't it end up looking blonde like Anna's hair in X2? I don't think a wig is such a bad idea.
Me neither.

[Electrix]

What comes to you when you hear Storm? The first things I think of are weather, white hair, lightning and sometimes Halle Berry.

Take away the blue eyes and you still have Storm. Take away the accent and you still have Storm to an extent. Take away the white hair and you have no Storm.

[JP]

Why do people come hear to bash Storm all the time? Last time I checked this was a thread for *fans* of Storm... I guess I was wrong.


:( :mad:

[Mr Sensitive]

Why do people come hear to bash Storm all the time? Last time I checked this was a thread for *fans* of Storm... I guess I was wrong.


:( :mad:


I don't think it is a thread for bashing, nor for drooling fans.
I suppose it is meant to discuss issues concerning Storm and Berry.

[Ions]

I don't think it is a thread for bashing, nor for drooling fans.
I suppose it is meant to discuss issues concerning Storm and Berry.Exactly. As the thread title says "Official Storm/Halle X3 Thread". I.o.w the official thread for bashing Storm/Halle. Or any other discussion involving Storm/Halle(including, god forbid, fanboi gushing about how great she is). No where is it definited solely a thread for gushing fanboi discussion. :marv:

[Almighty Pejo]

Yes, yes...the Storm/Halle thread, not the the Storm/Halle Drooling thread or the Storm/Halle Disgusted thread. To throw back to previous comments I made, do we really need two threads about her, one for negative and one for positive? You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have the Facts of Life. Just ask Charlotte Rae.

I like that pic, JP. The pads are a little jarring, but I think it's just the parts that go down her arm. If you connect the shoulder parts to the front and back of her top, leaving her upper arms bare, it would look a little better. If you happen to notice the back of her costume in the previous films, the cape attaches under her shoulder blades to the pads going across the top of her shoulders, so bare arms would still allow functionality. They just need to attach the cape to that multi-angled patch going down the back of their costumes to create parachute pockets under each arm so she can actually catch and ride the winds.

[Lightning Strykez!]

^^^ Well, well, well...The Fire God himself is in our midst. :p

I look forward to our next "aerial battle" Pejo. You know there will be one sooner or later, now that I've returned to this board permanently....

We've had such...cerebral discussions in our long history on the SHH... :yellow:

[kittykatkr]

Halle will be the best part of X-men 3.

[Almighty Pejo]

Hello again, my "striking" friend.

I look forward to it, of course. Whenever you're ready for another spar, just call my glorious name and I'll appear in an all-too-familiar reality defying flash of flame and cosmic ascension. Far be it from me to deny the sadist his much desired defeat. ;)

Until our psyches shall clash once more, I bid you a fond farewell. Ta-ta, my little speck of fleeting mortality! :D

[Slim_X]

What-the-**** :confused:

[Bucknutty]

i hope shes in it

[Lightning Strykez!]

What-the-**** :confused:


It's a RPG Slim...

He's the Fire God (Phoenix's No. 1 fan) and I'm the Weather God (Storm's Top Defender). We square off a lot regarding these two characters...and even our SN's reflect this.

One of the biggest battles this forum has ever seen took place right HERE (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148309), and we've been at odds ever since.

:cool:

[Lightning Strykez!]

Hello again, my "striking" friend.

I look forward to it, of course. Whenever you're ready for another spar, just call my glorious name and I'll appear in an all-too-familiar reality defying flash of flame and cosmic ascension. Far be it from me to deny the sadist his much desired defeat. ;)

Until our psyches shall clash once more, I bid you a fond farewell. Ta-ta, my little speck of fleeting mortality! :D

Defeat? Pfffffft...

You have yet to defeat the Lightning God my man....in fact, last time we faced off your feeble flame was effectively doused. Then again, heavy rains of evidence do have that effect on the self-assured here. But you should be well-refreshed and healed after our last battles, now that my year-long sabbatical to the Fantastic Four board is somewhat complete. :p















Until next time...:cool:

[Almighty Pejo]

Oh, you doused my flames, alright...doused them with a gasoline which ignited an inferno that left you a poor, broken excuse of a (demi)God who fled to the Fantastic Four forum for a year to avoid the wrath of my all consuming flames! BWAHAHAHAHA!

But I knew you'd come back for more, my little moth. More, more, more. :p




Auf Wiedersehen!

[Electrix]

Well this is going to get interesting....keep on topic though!

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Heres some recent pictures of Halle at that toothbrush thing...

[Lightning Strykez!]

Oh, you doused my flames, alright...doused them with a gasoline which ignited an inferno that left you a poor, broken excuse of a (demi)God who fled to the Fantastic Four forum for a year to avoid the wrath of my all consuming flames! BWAHAHAHAHA!

But I knew you'd come back for more, my little moth. More, more, more. :p




Auf Wiedersehen!

*snickers*

My departure to the F4 forum was actually to allow you time to heal and lick your wounds. You know...like Phoenix often needs.

Drown...sleep...rise.


Drown...sleep....rise.



Now go back to sleep. :p

[kittykatkr]

um back on topic... Storm and Halle Berry.

[AmerikazMostWanted]

stop drifting topic use pm

now back on topic

Will storm have a accent in 3 or is it tottaly gone?

[kittykatkr]

i hope she wont have accent i like her speech and voice in x-men 2. she was fantastic captured the storm i knew and grew up with. i loved her as storm. imo she is the best actress.

[Almighty Pejo]

Well, if Halle/Storm wasn't so god awful and boring in the films, we wouldn't have to stray off topic to keep the conversation alive.

You walked right into that one.

And it was on topic too.


Baaa-ZING!

[Electrix]

Well, if Halle/Storm wasn't so god awful and boring in the films, we wouldn't have to stray off topic to keep the conversation alive.


People talk about different things in threads, they wander off. Like you like to talk about yourself. Just some people try and keep it on topic where as some are still moaning about something thats been moaned about for 6 years now. We will have loads to talk about soon, pictures released, interviews, storylines. This is what this thread is for.

This is a smoke-free zone and your smoking!

[Slim_X]

Well, if Halle/Storm wasn't so god awful and boring in the films, we wouldn't have to stray off topic to keep the conversation alive.

You walked right into that one.

And it was on topic too.


Baaa-ZING!
So, would you like to have a lot of people bashing Jean Grey or Famke at your beloved Phoenix thread? Because to me, if it wasn't for the Phoenix, Jean would be a very boring character...and even with the Phoenix she's still boring. Or that Famke looks too old next to James Marsden, her acting ir pretty dull and her career hasn't gotten anywhere, I could go on and on... Overall I don't like Jean but have you seen me bashing her at your thread? Nope. I like to think it's for respect, I know that everyone there likes her so why would I go and make you have a bad time with my posts?

[JP]

So, would you like to have a lot of people bashing Jean Grey or Famke at your beloved Phoenix thread? Because to me, if it wasn't for the Phoenix, Jean would be a very boring character...and even with the Phoenix she's still boring. Or that Famke looks too old next to James Marsden, her acting ir pretty dull and her career hasn't gotten anywhere, I could go on and on... Overall I don't like Jean but have you seen me bashing her at your thread? Nope. I like to think it's for respect, I know that everyone there likes her so why would I go and make you have a bad time with my posts?


:eek: Poo on you!

[Lightning Strykez!]

You walked right into that one.

And it was on topic too.


Baaa-ZING!


Yes, and you walked right in with her my dear. :cool:

I wouldn't be so quick to pin the "boredom tail" on Halle/Storm. Storm's power displays are the most eye-catching and prevalently used in both films--not to mention she is the major selling point in all the trailers and promotional items. And when you couple that with the gravitas of an Oscar winner, it comes as little surprise that Halle and Hugh have continuously been the main seat-fillers for this franchise.

*yawn*

Meanwhile, Famke's Jean hasn't exactly been the captivating one in either film...just the center of an odd love-triangle that she herself foments. Aside from that she hasn't really added much value to either film, has she?

I thought not. ;)

Who knows...perhaps with improved writing and this so-called "expanded" role, Storm will actually upstage Jean on film as she does in the comics.

It can happen. :p

[CASHMERE]

I guess its come to this:(

[Almighty Pejo]

People talk about different things in threads, they wander off. Like you like to talk about yourself. Just some people try and keep it on topic where as some are still moaning about something thats been moaned about for 6 years now. We will have loads to talk about soon, pictures released, interviews, storylines. This is what this thread is for.Are you talking about the moaning from people who dislike Halle for making Storm suck so much (like me) or are you talking about the moaning from people who like to blame the writers, directors, producers, key grip, kraft service and pleather in the costumes as being the reason Storm sucks so much (like yourself)? The thread is about Storm, and I intend to talk about her...unlike some others who like to talk more about Jean than Storm, such as the following.

So, would you like to have a lot of people bashing Jean Grey or Famke at your beloved Phoenix thread? Because to me, if it wasn't for the Phoenix, Jean would be a very boring character...and even with the Phoenix she's still boring. Or that Famke looks too old next to James Marsden, her acting ir pretty dull and her career hasn't gotten anywhere, I could go on and on... Overall I don't like Jean but have you seen me bashing her at your thread? Nope. I like to think it's for respect, I know that everyone there likes her so why would I go and make you have a bad time with my posts?If you have something negative to say about Jean or Famke, then no one is going to stop you from going into the Phoenix thread to voice that opinion. I don't care one way or the other. It won't be any skin off of my teeth. Regardless of whether James Marsden is too young to play Cyclops next to a 36-going-on-37 year old Wolverine, a 38-going-on-39 year old Storm and 39-going-on-40 year old Phoenix and that Famke isn't flashing her tits to win political awards, it won't change the fact that Jean is more important, more used, well written and wonderfully acted, unlike Storm. I can respect whatever opinions you have. Post them wherever they are supposed to go. I intend to do the same, and have done so for quite some time. Respecting opinions does not mean you don't voice an opposite one, it means you give those people the choice of thinking how they want, whether or not you agree with it. As the saying goes...if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

I wouldn't be so quick to pin the "boredom tail" on Halle/Storm. Storm's power displays are the most eye-catching and prevalently used in both films--not to mention she is the major selling point in all the trailers and promotional items. And when you couple that with the gravitas of an Oscar winner, it comes as little surprise that Halle and Hugh have continuously been the main seat-fillers for this franchise.And when those SFX scenes end, we're right back with dull, uninteresting, boring, stiff as a board, heartless, vacuous Halle-Storm. Sad that she has to depend on those SFX scenes to have the slightest amount of presence in these films, isn't it? Good thing they aren't going to use the de-mutant serum on her...she wouldn't have a leg to stand on! And I'd be willing to bet top dollar Halle Berry had as much to do with seat filling in the first X-Men movie as Ray Park did. Hugh did, sure, but Halle? Pffft! Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen and Anna Paquin were all higher selling points for X-Men than Halle Berry. Don't forget, X-Men was before she flashed her *******, so she wasn't a hot commodity then.

Meanwhile, Famke's Jean hasn't exactly been the captivating one in either film...just the center of an odd love-triangle that she herself foments. Aside from that she hasn't really added much value to either film, has she?She's added much more than Halle's Storm has. As you said yourself, Halle adds SFX. At least Famke's Jean has a discernable personality and multiple plot points revolving around and/or connected to her, unlike Halle's Storm, who fell flat every time she opened her mouth. Mystique and Deathstrike should have been given more lines and Storm the mute. At least that way she wouldn't flub all her lines and make her scenes in both movies awkward and uninteresting. Famke's Jean has had the love triangle, the role of school physician and scientist, the subplot of her evolving powers, a momentous sacrifice to ensure her friends would survive and a resurrection from that death as a god-like being. Storm's had...well...umm....I know she did something....umm....let me think...she...uh....hmmm...Oh! She taught some kids, had some SFX scenes, and delivered every line she had poorly! Oh, yes...she talked to Senator Kelly and Nightcrawler, too! Boy, that's vital. *guffaw*

Who knows...perhaps with improved writing and this so-called "expanded" role, Storm will actually upstage Jean on film as she does in the comics.Hahaha...the sad thing is you actually believe that. More material means more opportunities for her to screw it up even worse. I'm kinda' looking forward to that.

Oh, by the way...did you know that X-Men: Phoenix Endsong came in as the fourth best selling comic title for all the comic books released in the month of January 2005? And did you know that Ororo: Before the Storm was released in June 2005? Guess what place she took. No, go on...guess! Come on...you can do it. Oh, fine, you spoiled sport, I'll just tell you. *holds back the laughter* 97! ***** was 97 out of 300! Hahahaha...baaaarely made the top 100. Jean didn't have that problem, tho. Last I checked, ranking 4th out of 300 was a lot better than ranking 97th out of 300. Oh, well...enjoy your slice of reality, dear.

:D

[Slim_X]

If you have something negative to say about Jean or Famke, then no one is going to stop you from going into the Phoenix thread to voice that opinion. I don't care one way or the other. It won't be any skin off of my teeth. Regardless of whether James Marsden is too young to play Cyclops next to a 36-going-on-37 year old Wolverine, a 38-going-on-39 year old Storm and 39-going-on-40 year old Phoenix and that Famke isn't flashing her tits to win political awards, it won't change the fact that Jean is more important, more used, well written and wonderfully acted, unlike Storm. I can respect whatever opinions you have. Post them wherever they are supposed to go. I intend to do the same, and have done so for quite some time. Respecting opinions does not mean you don't voice an opposite one, it means you give those people the choice of thinking how they want, whether or not you agree with it. As the saying goes...if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Lol, I KNEW you were gonna say something like that "If you have something negative to say about Jean or Famke, then no one is going to stop you from going into the Phoenix thread to voice that opinion", but the thing is that there's a limit to everything and I think this thread had reached the limit of negative comments. It's not Halle's fault that Storm is written like a robot instead of a human like Rogue and Jean. I try not to care about all the bashing because i know Halle is a great actress *ehem Oscar, Emmy, Emmy nomination, etc* and very popular but man..sometimes all the stupid posts really get on my nerves, you guys make her look like a total ***** and she's not.
If she gets to do some REAL acting in X3 and she blows then yeah bash her all you want and I won't get in your way.

[Slim_X]

If you have something negative to say about Jean or Famke, then no one is going to stop you from going into the Phoenix thread to voice that opinion. I don't care one way or the other. It won't be any skin off of my teeth.
One more thing about that :).
I could go to the Jean thread and say what I don't like about her, ok I said it...you read it...done...bye. But a lot of Storm bashers tend to stay here and make a living hell out of this thread, we got your point! Halle sucks as Storm whatever, it's not necessary to post it a lot of times because that's not gonna change anything... two movies have been made and Halle's coming back for a 3rd one...move on. It's like if I wanted to make Famke some years younger, I can't! and even if I don't like it I can live with it.
It's like that ratlebrat or whatever who kept bashing and bashing and bashing...that pisses me off. Pejo, we already know you don't like Halle either. I can ignore people who come here and make one or two posts satying they don't like her, but those who make 5, 6, 7, 8.... it gets very VERY annoying.

[kittykatkr]

Well this is going to get interesting....keep on topic though!

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Heres some recent pictures of Halle at that toothbrush thing...

she's gorgeous. :)

[Almighty Pejo]

I'm not trying to make her look like anything. I can't blame Halle for how the character was written, true, but who am I supposed to blame for how the character has been acted? Don't say Bryan Singer, because if he is to blame for Halle's bad portrayal of Storm, then he is also the one to get recognition for Hugh, Anna, Patrick, Ian, Rebecca, Famke, James, Alan, et cetera acting so well as their respective characters, so the argument won't stand to scrutiny. Some of you liked Halle as Storm (only God knows why) but I was downright devastated. And I get devastated everytime I see her come on screen whenever I watch either film. It isn't fair. Storm deserved to be written better and she deserved to have what was written for her acted better. She used to be one of my favorite X-Men characters and she deserves better than what she has been given, by all parties involved, both behind and in front of the camera, as well as the nonsense she goes through in the comics. If she's lucky, she'll get to die and hang out with Jean until more competent writers come along who'll do right by her. I've never seen Halle play a commanding presence like Storm, and she didn't do it in either of the two films previously, so I just don't think she has it in her. She can play an overtly sexy woman, she can play a mousy little meek woman, she can play a weeping emotional wreck, but I've never seen her play a strong woman with commanding presence and quiet authority like Storm, and I don't think that will change with X-Men 3.

As evidenced in the past...if you want to talk about the character of Storm, I can do that all day and get along with whoever is talking about her (unless said individuals are totalatarian fan boys who cry and get mad when you dare imply Storm is lesbian, even tho the subtext of her relationship with Yukio screams "DYKE!", and that she was better written 20 years ago than she is today), but when the focus shifts off of Storm and onto Halle Berry, well...that's a whole new ball of wax.

So fine. You can all go ahead and gush over Halle Berry till your lips bleed, I'll keep quiet...but compare her to Famke (or compare Storm to Phoenix), then it stands as an open invitation for me to come right back in here and tear her to shreds. And if anyone ever feels like actually talking about Storm, and not Halle Berry or the Halle-Storm debacle, then I'm gladly going to participate. But for now, have it your way. Worship until the cows come home, I don't care.

[kittykatkr]

come on guys, cut it out.

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lightning wasnt here so i stepped in. :)

[ManX07]

does every body have to fight

[kittykatkr]

yeah, people on here love to fight :confused: :(

[Slim_X]

Meh... I won't say anything else, it's not worth fighting over a fictional person or an aparent bad acting. I have a life to live :D. I'm sorry, Pejo, if I hurt your Phoenix feelings.

[usagicassidy]

I just watched X-Men and X2 with my friends this weekend and they kept making fun of me because whenever Halle was on screen I yelled for everyone to shut up. I love Halle, and I love Storm, and I love that Storm will be in the third movie more, but then again I'm skeptical. While Storm is (well was, haven't liked her ever since Claremont took her back and turned her into a one-dimensional queen goddess) my favorite character, I just don't think Halle plays a convincing Storm. Sure, I could blame it on the writers, but I don't think the fault is theirs (minues the 'same thing that happens' line). For three years I was obsessed with Halle Berry. Read her in the news, saw all of her movies, and in that time I realized that she wasn't that good of an actress. Sure she may have an award here and an award here, but the only Awards that I think are completely honest are the Tonys. She was pretty good in Introducing Dorthy Dandridge and okay in Monster's Ball, but everything else I've seen her in is pretty bad, with Catwoman being downright awful. So I'm all for Storm in X3, and I'm all for Halle playing her (because of continuity and she looks good). But to say that her character and her acting was and is better than Famke's is a really big stretch. Everyone's character in X-Men was more important than hers, and practically all of them in X2. Yeah, she has the powers, but I've seen nothing else. Give me more Halle and writers for X3. Hopefully it'll be enough. I don't think it will be.

[Mr Sensitive]

Dio mio!

There is no point in comparing Halle's bad acting and minimal skills with Janssen's exact depiction of Jean Grey.

To say "boring" about Grey's character is, in short, not having seen both X1 and X2, 'cause if there was any boredom, it came from Halle "yawning face" Berry.

Storm is one of my favourite Marvel characters, carissimos, but it was a fathomless mistake calling Berry to that part.

And to say that a woman in her early fourties is old is simply absurd. If Marsden looks like a kid, that's a totally different matter.

[Xfanfan]

For the most part Storm was there just for special effects purposes and eye candy. As for saying that you can't blame the writers or direction, I beg to differ, the foundation of any movie has to do with the script and directors play a huge role in directing how characters are portrayed. If the script isnt good then you bet a movie is bound to fail as you saw with Catwoman however in X-men the script was good for the most part. Now as for how Storm was portrayed, that is not Halle's fault since she was portraying Singer's interpretation of the character, Singer himself told everyone not to read the comic. Right there that should tell you something, he obviously did not want to depict Storm strong, and did not want Halle to know exactly how the character was. Is funny how with Wolverine, his favorite character it was completely different. Singer was biased, he did not like Storm, he did not think much of the character, and it showed plain and simple. If Some other actress had played Storm in X2 they probably would have had a cameo since the only reason Storm got something significant to do was that Halle spoke up about it. When I saw a show on Bravo, and Singer said that Storm is sexy, and that was it I realized that I was right all along. Singer thinks of Storm has eye candy and that is it and it came right out of his mouth so no one told me he said it I saw it with my own two eyes. He never mentioned anything about her being strong or anything all he said she was Sexy that is it.

Xfanfan

[The Guard]

Remember when actors and actresses used to get blamed for subpar performances?

[Xfanfan]

Off course actors do get blame for not acting their part right but if they do act their part exactly how the director wants them to act it, they should not get the blame for it. That is like if someone gives you exact intruction on how to do something and you follow their instruction, if something does not go right who should get the blame? Halle acted exactly how Singer wanted her to act. For instance remember how she was shaking and stuff when she came down the stairs, I bet Singer told her to comedown sexy. I mean its just not Storm and if he did not want her to come down like that he could have told her not to. But it goes with what he thought about the character, which he himself stated("Storm is suppose to be sexy"on Bravo Greatest Super Vixens Show). I mean what is it going to take for people to realize that Singer did not have a grasp of how the character should have been portrayed and cared less to even do research about it. He was directing a movie with many characters and someone was bound to not get as much dedication. Do you honestly think with him not caring much for Storm he was going to try and devote time to making sure the character was depicted right. Most of his time was spent on his precious Wolverine and you can tell because Wolverine did get to shine. He liked other characters too, and it showed he spent time with them, but both Storm and even Cyclops were not exactly characters he cared for much and it showed.

Xfanfan

[CoolCat]

does every body have to fight

Sometimes, fighting is all we know...

[PoSeiDon]

even if halle berry didnt play storm, and it was say angela bassest, she would have had the same lines, scenes, special effects, shooting time as halle. sure, angela seems like a more commanding type of woman, but that doesnt at all mean she would have given a better performance, or her performance would have made the character better because of the bad writing of the character.

but we will never know, halle was chosen. maybe if it really bothers you, then make a time machine, and go back and change it, somehow.

ps. honestly, i think they should have left the scene with storm and rogue conversing after class in x1. it kinda showed storms motherly side by talking to rogue, asking about how she was, in that brief period of time. and i could hear the accent a lil. but they cut it out..o well....

[Lightning Strykez!]

Damn I love this thread. :D

Pejo, I'm not done with you, but I've got to log off for a while. After I put this fire out, we'll..."Talk". :p

[gap5ewl]

even if halle berry didnt play storm, and it was say angela bassest, she would have had the same lines, scenes, special effects, shooting time as halle. sure, angela seems like a more commanding type of woman, but that doesnt at all mean she would have given a better performance, or her performance would have made the character better because of the bad writing of the character.

but we will never know, halle was chosen. maybe if it really bothers you, then make a time machine, and go back and change it, somehow.

ps. honestly, i think they should have left the scene with storm and rogue conversing after class in x1. it kinda showed storms motherly side by talking to rogue, asking about how she was, in that brief period of time. and i could hear the accent a lil. but they cut it out..o well....
couldnt agree with you more and yeah they definatly shouldve left that scene in it wouldve been good and would serve a purpose for both rogue and storm in x1. plus her accent was pretty heavy in it so it would show she is from a african country

[Endeavor]

Meanwhile, Famke's Jean hasn't exactly been the captivating one in either film...just the center of an odd love-triangle that she herself foments. Aside from that she hasn't really added much value to either film, has she?




tsk tsk!
I know you said this in the spirit of mud flinging with Pejo, but come clean Lightning, you know this isn't true.
She was important in X1 because without her operating Cerebro they would have never known where Magneto was in time to stop him from using the machine.
Her role was even more pivotal in X2. Not only because she saved the whole damn team from biting the big one, but without her breaking through the mental blocks in Nightcrawler's mind they would have never even found Stryker.

So as Jp said earlier
'poo on you'

LOL :p

[JP]

;) :)

[Mr Sensitive]

even if halle berry didnt play storm, and it was say angela bassest, she would have had the same lines, scenes, special effects, shooting time as halle. sure, angela seems like a more commanding type of woman, but that doesnt at all mean she would have given a better performance, or her performance would have made the character better because of the bad writing of the character.

but we will never know, halle was chosen. maybe if it really bothers you, then make a time machine, and go back and change it, somehow.

My dear Ocean God, you imply that the actress can do nothing, only spell script syllables, which is not accurate, is it?

Different actresses have different ways of playing their roles.

Berry is back, and I hope she can prove that the people like me, who didn't like her previous efforts, were wrong to think she couldn't do better. :xmen:

[the a1ant]

Wizard Magazine #167

"Storm is greatly expanded," says Arad. "We are going to take full advantage of the dramatic and acting abilities of Halle Berry. This time she'll get her due." - Avi Arad

There's much more on X3 in Wizard Magazine. There's seven pages of X3 info, though most of it is already known among us internet fans :p Some new quotes though in all....I'd say to pick it up :up:

[JP]

Wizard Magazine #167



There's much more on X3 in Wizard Magazine. There's seven pages of X3 info, though most of it is already known among us internet fans :p Some new quotes though in all....I'd say to pick it up :up:


:rolleyes: Or you could just scan the pages so we can see. K? :)


Oh.. and yay for Storm.

[the a1ant]

SHH! has had a problem with Wizard. Their visitors were posting articles on the site/forums...and the magazine got annoyed, so I can only direct people to buy the issue, and only post minimal quotes, lol :p

[JP]

SHH! has had a problem with Wizard. Their visitors were posting articles on the site/forums...and the magazine got annoyed, so I can only direct people to buy the issue, and only post minimal quotes, lol :p

Ahh crap... oh well. I'll head down to my comic store. Wont buy it tho, LOL. Just read a lil.

[FieryBalrog]

I just watched X-Men and X2 with my friends this weekend and they kept making fun of me because whenever Halle was on screen I yelled for everyone to shut up. I love Halle, and I love Storm, and I love that Storm will be in the third movie more, but then again I'm skeptical. While Storm is (well was, haven't liked her ever since Claremont took her back and turned her into a one-dimensional queen goddess) my favorite character, I just don't think Halle plays a convincing Storm. Sure, I could blame it on the writers, but I don't think the fault is theirs (minues the 'same thing that happens' line). For three years I was obsessed with Halle Berry. Read her in the news, saw all of her movies, and in that time I realized that she wasn't that good of an actress. Sure she may have an award here and an award here, but the only Awards that I think are completely honest are the Tonys. She was pretty good in Introducing Dorthy Dandridge and okay in Monster's Ball, but everything else I've seen her in is pretty bad, with Catwoman being downright awful. So I'm all for Storm in X3, and I'm all for Halle playing her (because of continuity and she looks good). But to say that her character and her acting was and is better than Famke's is a really big stretch. Everyone's character in X-Men was more important than hers, and practically all of them in X2. Yeah, she has the powers, but I've seen nothing else. Give me more Halle and writers for X3. Hopefully it'll be enough. I don't think it will be.

kudos for a very honest and balanced assessment! :up:

[Slim_X]

Great update, Ant! Thanks a lot! :D

[Kmack]

Wizard Magazine #167



There's much more on X3 in Wizard Magazine. There's seven pages of X3 info, though most of it is already known among us internet fans :p Some new quotes though in all....I'd say to pick it up :up:
I HAVE TO PICK UP A COPY!:eek:

[Lightning Strykez!]

Wizard Magazine #167



There's much more on X3 in Wizard Magazine. There's seven pages of X3 info, though most of it is already known among us internet fans :p Some new quotes though in all....I'd say to pick it up :up:

Ant, is this the one with The Invisible Woman on the cover?

[Lightning Strykez!]

tsk tsk!
I know you said this in the spirit of mud flinging with Pejo, but come clean Lightning, you know this isn't true.
She was important in X1 because without her operating Cerebro they would have never known where Magneto was in time to stop him from using the machine.
Her role was even more pivotal in X2. Not only because she saved the whole damn team from biting the big one, but without her breaking through the mental blocks in Nightcrawler's mind they would have never even found Stryker.

So as Jp said earlier
'poo on you'

LOL :p

I didn't say she wasn't "important". I said she wasn't captivating. That's not to say that Famke isn't a decent actress, but she's never been my top choice for The Phoenix. She just doesn't have that...it that really nails the character that I know. And Halle doesn't have that "it" either, so maybe it has to do with the direction of the prior films.

And yes, while her role was pivotal in saving the X-Men from a certain watery grave, it was Storm's quick thinking that literally saved mankind as a whole from Xavier's genocide.

So fine..."poo" on me, in fact--get your "poo" ON. :cool: But it doesn't change the facts...Storm's popularity and appeal often eclipses that of Jean's.

And that's not something that takes away from Phoenix because aside from Storm and The Invisible Woman, she is my top favorite Marvel Heroine...but even I must be objective here.

[TNC9852002]

even if halle berry didnt play storm, and it was say angela bassest, she would have had the same lines, scenes, special effects, shooting time as halle. sure, angela seems like a more commanding type of woman, but that doesnt at all mean she would have given a better performance, or her performance would have made the character better because of the bad writing of the character.

but we will never know, halle was chosen. maybe if it really bothers you, then make a time machine, and go back and change it, somehow.

ps. honestly, i think they should have left the scene with storm and rogue conversing after class in x1. it kinda showed storms motherly side by talking to rogue, asking about how she was, in that brief period of time. and i could hear the accent a lil. but they cut it out..o well....
:up: :up:

-TNC

[AmerikazMostWanted]

what do you guys think about having storm have black hair in x3? that would be a cool change

[Sabretooth]

what do you guys think about having storm have black hair in x3? that would be a cool change
oh hell yeahz!

[CoolCat]

You know what I've been noticing, Halle Berry is the only one promoting this film actor/actress wise. Weren't people talkin' mess about Halle not caring about the films (X2 most mentiones) and Storm, and they said she wasn't promoting the film yet all the other actors were. It's a shame that the same people can't compliment her for being the only one out there getting X3 hyped up. All some care about is mudslinging. If she wasn't promoting the film last time, then that would mean it's not asked of her and it's an added bonus for the studio to get that film out there, but she's been bustin' her butt. I already know some are gonna bring up that it's her job, and its what she should be doing, but when all is said and done, she's doing her part, but those in doubt are no where to be found in tipping their hat to her.

Ant- That's some good news. I can't wait.

I hope Halle gets a cover shoot for wizard in full Storm attire and she's flying in the air, one knee up, hands extended with lightning. That'd be sick. Famke as The Phoenix Should get the same type of complete cover, but she should be levitating, toes pointed, hands to her side with flames encircling/ engulfing her lower half like it's rising. Could be a bonus double issue, but so they don't have two complete seperate issues, half the magazines should be double cover connected (pullout style) and storms on the front and phoenix on the pull out part, and then the other half the opposite way.

[CoolCat]

what do you guys think about having storm have black hair in x3? that would be a cool change

Whoa cowboy, hold your horses, lets not get too crazy with demands. Halle would look like Halle rather than portraying Storm. Lets just hope we get some sort of accent back and some scenes where Storm Flies, and also shows off her hand to hand combat skills.

FYI to all: Did you know in the first x-men film, Storm actually had some actual fighting with Toad instead of just getting beat up? But ofcourse they cut it out. Coincidence that maybe they didn't want Storm to be strong in the first film. Maybe the plan all along was to show her grow as a character throughout the films and she gets stronger with each film because she was more "demanding" (strong wise) in the last film. (And I don't mean demanding as she wants this and that). Maybe this is the film where we fully get into Storm, history wise.

[moonstar]

Wizard Magazine #167 Quote:
"Storm is greatly expanded," says Arad. "We are going to take full advantage of the dramatic and acting abilities of Halle Berry. This time she'll get her due." - Avi Arad

Ok as long as acting doesn't mean her acting like a overlycompassionate-emotional wreck-victimized animal or a stiff sexual vampire woman! There is a median somewhere in between halle's usual character prototypes!

Storm should have the confidence of Grace Jones, the attitude Rebecca uses as Mystique and the complete fighting prowess/competence of Lady Deathstrike.

Also when they're in the war room discussing mission strategies-she should not look so confused as they lay down facts they already(!) know for the audience! If she's going to lead she has to look like she pretty much has already decided a plan of action she's just explaining it. I think Marsden and Jackman were the best at this type of thinking aloud thing. famke on the other just looked totally spaced and uninvolved like the decisions weren't gonna be made by her so she had nothing to contribute. Maybe she was distracted by the phoenix talking to her in her head.

All those little details or "choices" are what define some actors as great while the others we will bash and complain until they wake the *@#! up!

Maybe there were plans to build her up EVENTUALLY -but Storm was one of those xmen that came to the team already knowing what to do with herself since she was on her own so young. Her powers never frightened her. I guess they tried to show it in her 1rst scene with Toad in the elevator but the lines were so lame it defeated the purpose. Instead of toughtalking cheesy dialogue-it should just be in her attitude. Like Hugh as wolvie sometimes it's not what you say just how you carry yourself.

[Mr Sensitive]

Maybe there were plans to build her up EVENTUALLY -but Storm was one of those xmen that came to the team already knowing what to do with herself since she was on her own so young. Her powers never frightened her. I guess they tried to show it in her 1rst scene with Toad in the elevator but the lines were so lame it defeated the purpose. Instead of toughtalking cheesy dialogue-it should just be in her attitude. Like Hugh as wolvie sometimes it's not what you say just how you carry yourself.

:up: :up: :up:

Now we're talking.

[Endeavor]

oh hell yeahz!


Isn't there a limit to the amount of handles you can have on here?

[Lightning Strykez!]

Wizard Magazine #167 Quote:
"Storm is greatly expanded," says Arad. "We are going to take full advantage of the dramatic and acting abilities of Halle Berry. This time she'll get her due." - Avi Arad

Ok as long as acting doesn't mean her acting like a overlycompassionate-emotional wreck-victimized animal or a stiff sexual vampire woman! There is a median somewhere in between halle's usual character prototypes!

Storm should have the confidence of Grace Jones, the attitude Rebecca uses as Mystique and the complete fighting prowess/competence of Lady Deathstrike.

Also when they're in the war room discussing mission strategies-she should not look so confused as they lay down facts they already(!) know for the audience! If she's going to lead she has to look like she pretty much has already decided a plan of action she's just explaining it. I think Marsden and Jackman were the best at this type of thinking aloud thing. famke on the other just looked totally spaced and uninvolved like the decisions weren't gonna be made by her so she had nothing to contribute. Maybe she was distracted by the phoenix talking to her in her head.

All those little details or "choices" are what define some actors as great while the others we will bash and complain until they wake the *@#! up!

Maybe there were plans to build her up EVENTUALLY -but Storm was one of those xmen that came to the team already knowing what to do with herself since she was on her own so young. Her powers never frightened her. I guess they tried to show it in her 1rst scene with Toad in the elevator but the lines were so lame it defeated the purpose. Instead of toughtalking cheesy dialogue-it should just be in her attitude. Like Hugh as wolvie sometimes it's not what you say just how you carry yourself.


You're on the money man. Well said.

[Electrix]

Well, I just found out Halle has a personal make-up artist. Mary Burton. By the looks of things she met her on set of 'The Flintstones' and has been her make-up artist ever since. She did Halle's make-up in Swordfish, Monsters Ball, Die Another Day, X2 and Gothika. I wonder if she will be back for X3?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0123668/

[the a1ant]

Ant, is this the one with The Invisible Woman on the cover?

Nope, it's the one with the DC Alex Ross Cover (also a Wolverine (X2 photo) variant cover). I got mines in the mail. Issue 167 :) :up:

[Lightning Strykez!]

I got mines in the mail. Issue 167 :) :up:


Well, aren't you spesha! :D :o

[Lightning Strykez!]

Well, I just found out Halle has a personal make-up artist. Mary Burton. By the looks of things she met her on set of 'The Flintstones' and has been her make-up artist ever since. She did Halle's make-up in Swordfish, Monsters Ball, Die Another Day, X2 and Gothika. I wonder if she will be back for X3?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0123668/

I hope that she gives Halle more of a bronzer tone for her make-up this time. Storm is generally dark complected, but brown skin is something Halle has naturally. But with make-up they can make her look really, really pale. For example, on the snow outside Stryker's base, she was entirely TOO fair--in fact, her hair actually looked blonde in contrast.

She needs bronze tones like this.
http://www.halle-berry-pictures.com/hb45.jpg

or this:

http://www.cudne.friko.pl/zdjecia/Halle%20Berry/halle%20berry%20shower.jpg

Do you guys think she tans for the roles?

[Electrix]

Well, aren't you spesha! :D :o

LOL

:D

[kittykatkr]

the a1ant i love your new avatar, where is it from?

[TNC9852002]

Hey Strikez,..are you saying that Halle isn't black enough to play Storm?.. :p :D

-TNC

[gap5ewl]

I hope that she gives Halle more of a bronzer tone for her make-up this time. Storm is generally dark complected, but brown skin is something Halle has naturally. But with make-up they can make her look really, really pale. For example, on the snow outside Stryker's base, she was entirely TOO fair--in fact, her hair actually looked blonde in contrast.

She needs bronze tones like this.
http://www.halle-berry-pictures.com/hb45.jpg

or this:

http://www.cudne.friko.pl/zdjecia/Halle%20Berry/halle%20berry%20shower.jpg

Do you guys think she tans for the roles?

her makeup in x1 was good i dint like it in x2 either she looked way to light and looke darker in x1

[Lightning Strykez!]

Hey Strikez,..are you saying that Halle isn't black enough to play Storm?.. :p :D

-TNC

Yop, I'm a black racist. :p

And dem roots of hurs ain't pure....LOL J/K

[Lightning Strykez!]

^^^ Um, I was kidding guys. I'm biracial myself.

I didn't mean to kill the conversation. :(









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[Angry Sentinel]

^^^ Um, I was kidding guys. I'm biracial myself.

I didn't mean to kill the conversation. :(


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It's not you Lightning all convo ends around here about 8:45am (depending on your time zone) Take a look at the last post time, it comes and goes for about 3hours and returns for a bit during the 4th hour. Why do I know this, well that's a story for another time:cool:

[ts16]

lightning, that storm avatar (or whatever its called) is amazing. nice work !

[kittykatkr]

lightning i really love the new avatar! is that how you came up with your username from storm?

[Lightning Strykez!]

Thanks guys. And yes, Kitty "Lightning Strikez" is patterned after one of the powers of the Weather Goddess herself. :p

Thanks and credit goes to Roma for the designs!

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[kittykatkr]

ooh roma she is my favorite! love her. :) <33

[Electrix]

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2614/storm6uw.gif....

[kittykatkr]

the other one doesnt work :(

[Lightning Strykez!]

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Dude, can you convert that into an avvy?? :eek:

[aaron]

im wondering, how much would it cost for effects like that on her eyes?

[JP]

She looks like shes bobbing her head to a new cd she just picked up at the record store!

:eek:

[Electrix]

She looks like shes bobbing her head to a new cd she just picked up at the record store!

:eek:

Either that or have her spazzing out...neck twitches lol

[JP]

The longer I stare at it, the more I can think of a beat to the music.

[Electrix]

I think she looks really beautiful and looks a lot like Storm in that scene.

[AmerikazMostWanted]

too late :p :o






:( not its size 75

Dude, can you convert that into an avvy??

yeah

[kittykatkr]

amw, i love your avatar :)

[Slim_X]

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2614/storm6uw.gif....
I love that shot :D.

...and Great siggy, Lightning :).

I can't believe that in less than a week we might get to see Storm's new look :p.

[AmerikazMostWanted]

less than a week :eek: that means beast too

[Electrix]

less than a week :eek: that means beast too

Doesnt time fly. It doesnt seem 3 months since Vaughn was around. Time flies when there is lack of news :D

[AmerikazMostWanted]

time sure does fly , is anyone else blown away as me we will see beast within the next week as a real thing :eek:

[Electrix]

time sure does fly , is anyone else blown away as me we will see beast within the next week as a real thing :eek:

We've waited 6 years and we'll get Angel, Beast and Juggernaut in a matter of weeks...and a look at Storms new wig.

Longer, fuller and blowier!!!

[AmerikazMostWanted]

Won't Juggernaught need cgi :confused:

[Obi-Ron]

I can't believe that in less than a week we might get to see Storm's new look :p.

I'll be psyched if there's a white mohawk involved, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

[TNC9852002]

Won't Juggernaught need cgi :confused:
Well, everyone needs CGI,... :p

-TNC

[kittykatkr]

i hope storm looks the same as she did in the last movie, don't need to change perfection. :p

[Xfanfan]

Halle Berry might talk about X-men 3 tonight when she appears on the Travis show on PBS at 11. Here is a link where you can find your channel or local listing on the show.

http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/

Xfanfan

[Electrix]

She better talk or I'll get that Catwoman whip of hers and whip it out of her :D

Thats cool...I bet we'll get the usual 'I want Storm to fly dammit!'. She will be filming in 4 or 5 days so she will know what her character is getting up to. She wont tell us whats happening but she can hint.

Hear that Halle! Hint!

[Electrix]

Nothing was mentioned :(

The only X they talk about was about Halle being a sex symbol...

[Endeavor]

She better talk or I'll get that Catwoman whip of hers and whip it out of her :D

Thats cool...I bet we'll get the usual 'I want Storm to fly dammit!'. She will be filming in 4 or 5 days so she will know what her character is getting up to. She wont tell us whats happening but she can hint.

Hear that Halle! Hint!

Will she be filming next week?
I know principal photography starts but the whole cast won't be presnt just yet.
Marsden might be finishing up Superman just now, so he might be in Vancouver by the end of next week... However McKellen is still in the Danvici Code. I remember hearing he wont start filming X3 untill September.
What is Berry doing now?

[Electrix]

She is doing nothing. She has months to spare...I think.

[Endeavor]

Okay good.

[Matt]

Could the next 3 posters be kind enough to type LOL for me?

[Lightning Strykez!]

^^^^ What's so funny? :confused:

[JP]

I wanna see Halles hair already :( Im so impatient

[JP]

http://www.suntimes.com/output/people/cnt-news-scurry31.html

Berry's back for more
Halle Berry explains, to the N.Y. Daily News, why she signed to do "X-Men 3": "I learned a long time ago that you have to be part of the commercial life of this business if you want a long career. And to be able to do the art movies, the movies from the heart." Translation: "Nice check!"

[Retroman]

http://www.suntimes.com/output/people/cnt-news-scurry31.html
Nice. :up:

[Electrix]

I think all of them will be getting nice checks...

[Maze]

i hope the actors will be wise enough to not ask huge amount of money..

the movie need it.

[Electrix]

15 actors. About 5 have size figure pay checks.

If I were them I'd ask for the money out of the profit made so that it doesnt eat up the budget.

[EnSabahNur]

if i were them id do it voluntarily :D and i would too, aslong as all my nessesary needs are taken care of..

[Slim_X]

http://www.suntimes.com/output/people/cnt-news-scurry31.html
Lol.

[Maze]

If I were them I'd ask for the money out of the profit made so that it doesnt eat up the budget.

exactly.

[ultimatefan]

http://www.suntimes.com/output/people/cnt-news-scurry31.html
The complete translation would be, "my career hit rock bottom with Catwoman, so I desperately need a BO success so my phone won´t stop ringing for good and I have to do the straight-to-DVD Catwoman sequel and sell my Oscar for peanuts"...

[Lightning Strykez!]

^^^

Um.

No.

Halle's career is fine, and Catwoman was a blip on her overall radar. Many Oscar winners have a lackluster film that's panned by critics...even Mr. Razzie Award-Recipient Tom Cruise himself. :cool:


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[The Storm]

^ Loving your avvy. Did you make the banner yourself?

[gap5ewl]

yeah lightning im really digging that banner it looks amazing!

[Lightning Strykez!]

Thanks guys! Roma is very talented. I supplied her the pics and the theme I wanted, and she breathed life into the concept. And Et viola!! :up:


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[DrVenkman90]

Freakin' awesome banner

[ultimatefan]

^^^

Um.

No.

Halle's career is fine, and Catwoman was a blip on her overall radar. Many Oscar winners have a lackluster film that's panned by critics...even Mr. Razzie Award-Recipient Tom Cruise himself. :cool:


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I´m being sarcastic, but after her Oscar she did Gothika and Catwoman, these are not exactly a tremendous following...

[the a1ant]

I thought Gothika was among her best films (acting-wise). The film itself needed major help though. I enjoyed most of the film, but it wasn't scary, or very psychological like it was supposed to be. I don't think it was a flop though because it did make its budget back (barely) and was released on DVD twice (2nd time a special edition).

[gap5ewl]

gothika was a really good movie her acting was better in that movie then monster's ball.

[TNC9852002]

Pre and Post Oscars winners aren't immune to doing "bad movies"--Just like any other actor if you ask me..

I just see people using Halle Berry's Catwoman as a lame excuse to look down on her..

-TNC

[ts16]

Yeah, just look at oscar winner Charlize Theron. Aeon Flux is shaping up to be pretty sucky.

[JP]

Well, the show wasn't really good to begin with.

[TNC9852002]

Anybody see De Niro in Hide and Seek or Godsend? :p

-TNC

[JP]

ZING!

[ts16]

Anybody see De Niro in Hide and Seek or Godsend? :p

-TNC


:p Oh god dont remind me. I'm trying to forget about how bad hide and seek was. Dakota fanning scared me though. CHARLIE CHARLIE CHARLIE :eek: :( :down

[CASHMERE]

I can't believe I actually saw Hide & Seek.

[Slim_X]

Or what about the most recent example... Jamie Foxx in Stealth :).

[CASHMERE]

^ omg I saw so many Stealth posters today, On the side of a bus, on a Bus stop, Billboards, & more billboards. Promotion was "A+" for this movie. Imo the "FEAR THE SKY" tagline was good... btw what was Catwoman's Tagline?

[TNC9852002]

Jamie was doing Stealth even before he was nominated, but that's a little different...It's not like he was one of the top main characters in Stealth either, but ya know..

-TNC

[Slim_X]

Then there's also Hilary Swank who did The Core after she won an Academy Award, everybody thought her career was over and then she won another one.

[JP]

What about Marissa Tomei...

[Slim_X]

She never won an Academy Award for Best Actress. Even Julia Roberts, after she won the Oscar she did Mona Lisa Smile and from what I heard that sucked..didn't it?

[ts16]

and what about gwyneth paltro, she's had her string of flops and she's and oscar winner. "A View From the Top" comes to mind. :p

[JP]

Helen Hunt..

[ts16]

add Angelina Jolie to the list. talk about flops. tomb raider 2, taking lives, beyong borders, life of something like it, original sin, alexander. of course she's had her fair share of big box office hits as well. this game is fun. *thinks of more*

[Lightning Strykez!]

btw what was Catwoman's Tagline?

"Sometimes A Cat Can Bring You Back To Life...To Make The Wrong Things Right".


:rolleyes:

*reaches for paper bag*




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[Slim_X]

Jennifer Conelly.

[ts16]

"Sometimes A Cat Can Bring You Back To Life...To Make The Wrong Things Right".


:rolleyes:

*reaches for paper bag*



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oh lord. bwahaha. i still remember watching that movie in theatres. the basketball scene alone was worth the price of admission :p

[Slim_X]

I still enojoyed Catwoman a lot more than Elektra :o... really.

[JP]

Its not that Elektra was bad... Its just that the movie was boring as hell. I almost fell asleep a few times.

[ts16]

yeah elektra was...errr...interesting to say the least. took itself WAY to seriously, whereas Catwoman wasnt serious enough to be enjoyable and wasnt true to its source. both had their flaws, and uhhh, maybe 1 or 2 strengths, but i'd have to agree that Catwoman was more enjoyable. at least it was funny (although not intentionally), right ?

[Slim_X]

at least it was funny (although not intentionally), right ?
Lol yup :). Elektra was very boring.

[CoolCat]

She never won an Academy Award for Best Actress. Even Julia Roberts, after she won the Oscar she did Mona Lisa Smile and from what I heard that sucked..didn't it?

Actually, it was a really good movie. It was my first "chick flick" that I saw, and I actually don't enjoy Julia, now I feel she is WAY over rated and unattractive, but that's my opinion. Anywayz, I saw mona Lisa smile @ one of those free screenings with a friend, I thought it was really good.

Now to the topic at hand concerning flops and bombs, you all must take in consideration the oversees in take, Gothika's profit was about 80mil, and Tomb raider 2 was about the same, I think a bit more. Catwoman...not so much, but I still can watch it movie despite the flaws I felt would've made it a better film. (and if any of you say "by not making it" I will virtual pimp slap you).

[CoolCat]

I think Elektra and Catwoman should have had longer and more elaborate fighting sequences, that's the main reason we went to see those films.

[CASHMERE]

She never won an Academy Award for Best Actress. Even Julia Roberts, after she won the Oscar she did Mona Lisa Smile and from what I heard that sucked..didn't it?

I don't think its fair to compare Mona Lisa Smile to Blockbuster Movies.

[CASHMERE]

"Sometimes A Cat Can Bring You Back To Life...To Make The Wrong Things Right".


:rolleyes:

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Oh stop it. I'm serious.... what was really the tagline?

[Angry Sentinel]

Then there's also Hilary Swank who did The Core after she won an Academy Award, everybody thought her career was over and then she won another one.

Hilary Swank is the MAN!!!:o I mean her career is... I mean... well you know what I mean!

Now what is being forgotten here is that some people also wonder about Halle cause they dont think she can act. The question is not about just being in a bad movie, that can and does happen to anybody. But you wont see anybody saying Deniro cant act just cause of Godsend or Hide & Seek, Hillary Swank cause of Core, Angelina Jolie cause of Beyond Borders, etc.

[spark627]

Its not that Elektra was bad... Its just that the movie was boring as hell. I almost fell asleep a few times.

i really like elektra, it had its flaws and coulda been more exciting. the studio changed a lot of it so the directors cut should be interesting and way better.

[TNC9852002]

Now what is being forgotten here is that some people also wonder about Halle cause they dont think she can act. The question is not about just being in a bad movie, that can and does happen to anybody. But you wont see anybody saying Deniro cant act just cause of Godsend or Hide & Seek, Hillary Swank cause of Core, Angelina Jolie cause of Beyond Borders, etc.
Well that's a little bit different because you're dealing more with individual opinion on an actor's performance rather than film quality or box office numbers...

For the sake fo argument, it is something that still bothers me though...Out of probably, the 50+ Oscar winners (acting) that I can list from off the top of my head, I just can't understand why Halle Berry is picked on the most...I mean, they just don't GIVE Oscars out to everybody..

-TNC

[Mr Sensitive]

TNC, I think she's the most picked on here because, for instance, Gwyneth Paltrow never had a role in superhero movies.

Great actors have won an Oscar, but very weak ones as well.

[CASHMERE]

Its not that Elektra was bad... Its just that the movie was boring as hell. I almost fell asleep a few times.

I second that. Imo the movie had a good opening with the whole stealth scene. It looked really promising, after that until the near end, the movie just bores you with mundane tasks and situations blah.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Oh stop it. I'm serious.... what was really the tagline?


Nope. I'm serious.

That's it.




And that's why it was Razzie-Worthy. :p


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[Lightning Strykez!]

Cash...this is for you:

Memorable Quotes from
Catwoman (2004)

Laurel Hedare: Game over!
Catwoman: Guess what? It's overtime!

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[repeated line]
Patience Philips: Oh, my bad!

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[last lines]
Catwoman: [voiceover] The day I died was the day I started to live. In my old life, I longed for someone to see what was special in me. You did, and for that, you'll always be in my heart. But what I really needed was for me to see it. And now I do. You're a good man, Tom. But you live in a world that has no place for someone like me. You see, sometimes I'm good. Oh, I'm very good. But sometimes I'm bad. But only as bad as I wanna be. Freedom is power. To live a life untamed and unafraid is the gift that I've been given, and so my journey begins.

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[first lines]
Catwoman: [voiceover] It all started on the day that I died. If there had been an obituary, it would have described the unremarkable life of an unremarkable woman, survived by no one. But there was no obituary, because the day that I died was also the day I started to live. But that comes later. This was my life. Days blended together, consistently ordinary, thanks to a job that was the practical version of my passion. I was supposed to be an artist by now. Instead, I was designing ads for beauty cream.

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Laurel Hedare: I was everything they wanted me to be. I was never more beautiful. Never more powerful. And then I turned 40 and they threw me away.

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Catwoman: White Russian, no ice, no vodka... hold the Kahlua.

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Patience Philips: [to thieves] Amateurs! You boys thought you could come in here and steal all these beautiful things? What a purrrfect idea!

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Lance: Hey! Man sandwich! Twelve o'clock!

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[as he's scratched and interrogated by Catwoman]
George Hedare: Get your paws off of me!

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Laurel Hedare: If you have no identity, why keep it a secret?
Catwoman: Because you killed me.

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Catwoman: Meow.

[TNC9852002]

TNC, I think she's the most picked on here because, for instance, Gwyneth Paltrow never had a role in superhero movies.

Great actors have won an Oscar, but very weak ones as well.
Give me a list of very weak actors who've won Oscars..

and nah, I've seen Halle Berry trashed on a couple other sites too..

-TNC

[Lightning Strykez!]

and nah, I've seen Halle Berry trashed on a couple other sites too..

-TNC


Much of that is fueled by sheer jealousy. Halle has broken a lot of barriers and she is striking in appearance. Some throw rocks at her because she is very much the face of Hollywood right now. It kinda comes with the territory.

[Handyman]

I was very dissapointed in Catwoman and i was one of its few supporters on the old boards (apart from roy that is...i wonder whatever happened to him...). i do stand by my statement that halle did her very best with that material and there were a few moments where she did shine (although it may just be that the rest of the film was cack!).am i the only one who misses the catwoman boards?there used to be some interesting discussions/arguments there.

[TNC9852002]

Some throw rocks at her because she is very much the face of Hollywood right now. It kinda comes with the territory.
:up:

-TNC

[CASHMERE]

Cash...this is for you:

Memorable Quotes from
Catwoman (2004)

Laurel Hedare: Game over!
Catwoman: Guess what? It's overtime!

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[repeated line]
Patience Philips: Oh, my bad!

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[last lines]
Catwoman: [voiceover] The day I died was the day I started to live. In my old life, I longed for someone to see what was special in me. You did, and for that, you'll always be in my heart. But what I really needed was for me to see it. And now I do. You're a good man, Tom. But you live in a world that has no place for someone like me. You see, sometimes I'm good. Oh, I'm very good. But sometimes I'm bad. But only as bad as I wanna be. Freedom is power. To live a life untamed and unafraid is the gift that I've been given, and so my journey begins.

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[first lines]
Catwoman: [voiceover] It all started on the day that I died. If there had been an obituary, it would have described the unremarkable life of an unremarkable woman, survived by no one. But there was no obituary, because the day that I died was also the day I started to live. But that comes later. This was my life. Days blended together, consistently ordinary, thanks to a job that was the practical version of my passion. I was supposed to be an artist by now. Instead, I was designing ads for beauty cream.

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Laurel Hedare: I was everything they wanted me to be. I was never more beautiful. Never more powerful. And then I turned 40 and they threw me away.

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Catwoman: White Russian, no ice, no vodka... hold the Kahlua.

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Patience Philips: [to thieves] Amateurs! You boys thought you could come in here and steal all these beautiful things? What a purrrfect idea!

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Lance: Hey! Man sandwich! Twelve o'clock!

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[as he's scratched and interrogated by Catwoman]
George Hedare: Get your paws off of me!

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Laurel Hedare: If you have no identity, why keep it a secret?
Catwoman: Because you killed me.

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Catwoman: Meow.


Haha! well I personally liked the movie for what it was. I liked Selina Kyle "Catwoman" I guess me not being a Comic reader made me not so familiar her History just her Concept. So in the end the whole Patience Phillips "Catwoman" change didn't bother me that much as it did others. BUT that is a pretty bad Tagline, atleast Stealth had "FEAR THE SKY" which for some reason I think is a really good Tagline even if the Movie sucks.

[Angry Sentinel]

[QUOTE]Well that's a little bit different because you're dealing more with individual opinion on an actor's performance rather than film quality or box office numbers... I was just speaking in general, it appeared that the conversation was listing people who had done bad movies after an Oscar as a way of saying, "Halle is no different from anyone else", so why pick on her! But I think that most people have expressed that they are specifically un-happy with her performances not just the fact that she was in a bad movie.


For the sake of argument, it is something that still bothers me though...Out of probably, the 50+ Oscar winners (acting) that I can list from off the top of my head, I just can't understand why Halle Berry is picked on the most
And that's what I was getting at, cause there are some people who have given their reason for picking on Halle as being because this movie flops, or that movie flops.... and to me, this is ridiculous. Her performances in just about every movie are at least average. Im not one to call them phenomenal but to call her the "worst" and single her out so intensely does seem strange, especially when your reasoning is because some movie flops. ...I mean, they just don't GIVE Oscars out to everybody...
-TNC :rolleyes: Not necessarily a hack but there are those that have gotten an Oscar, over some other talent in a given year, that may be deemed questionable. Seriously, I think Halle has enough various awards to prove she is at the very least, competent at being well liked(including that razzie)!