The Official Metal Gear Thread

[Electro UK]

So here I am thinking wow what a great series of games this has been so far. Why the hell do we not have a thread on the fourth yet? So here it is. Little infromation has been released so far on this game. All I've heard of is that Hideos not directing and that it's going back to Solid Snake with a whole new story line (Yay!)
With how early MGS3 screenshots came out, I expect we'll see some screens in the not to distant future.
So what are you waiting for? Discuss people!

[The Amazing Lee]

Since discovering a love for SC...I've kinda gone off the MGS series.

I used to be a BIG MGS fan and I am hyping the 4th MGS but not as much now.

[Electro UK]

Since discovering a love for SC...I've kinda gone off the MGS series.

I used to be a BIG MGS fan and I am hyping the 4th MGS but not as much now.

Ah the Splinter Cell vs Metal Gear Solid war. Personally I've never played any SC so I can't make a fair judgment but it does look pretty good, I'll have to check it out

[The Amazing Lee]

Ah the Splinter Cell vs Metal Gear Solid war. Personally I've never played any SC so I can't make a fair judgment but it does look pretty good, I'll have to check it out

I just feel that SC does the whole stealth thing better, although you've got to love the MGS story.

I just found it SO hard to be stealthy on MGS3.

[Psycho Hulk]

yeah but Hideo Kojima (did I spell that correctly?) won't be directing or involved with MGS4...so I could clearly see a Devil May Cry 2 happening here, where we have some cool new moves and maybe better graphics, but lowsy story, gameplay, and interest...but I could be wrong.

[The Amazing Lee]

Kojima will step in if the team doesn't do it right...like he did with 3.

Would you really give your baby to others to look after if they can't do it the way in which you would like it and if not you'd have input to make sure that it would be better,

[Electro UK]

yeah but Hideo Kojima (did I spell that correctly?) won't be directing or involved with MGS4...so I could clearly see a Devil May Cry 2 happening here, where we have some cool new moves and maybe better graphics, but lowsy story, gameplay, and interest...but I could be wrong.

Oh god how I hope you're wrong. The MGS saga has been outstanding so far, Hideo can't just let them ruin it

[imagerian27]

Splinter Cell Vs Metal Gear Solid
Sam Fisher Vs Solid Snake not match really MGS and Solid Snake are the better ones in my opinion i cannot wait for MGS4 on the PS3

[SaxtonTemple]

Well, i guess Hideo will watch the development. so i doubt we get a devil may cry 2...

[Psycho Hulk]

I got the info out of a mini article in PlayStation Magazine(Burn Out 4 edition). If anyone wants to go check it out. I don't have the magazine on hand so I can't directly quote anything properly.

[Psycho Hulk]

Splinter Cell Vs Metal Gear Solid
Sam Fisher Vs Solid Snake not match really MGS and Solid Snake are the better ones in my opinion i cannot wait for MGS4 on the PS3

Granted Sam Fisher is an Ex-Navy Seal and like 50 years old and still kicking ass.

Solid Snake is an Genetically Engineered Super Soldier, he is pretty much flawless in his design.

They are both Masters of Stealth. So I am not sure, I guess it would just have to be up to who ever makes a mistake first. Yet, in hand to hand combat I would have to go with Solid Snake.

Game play wise...really depends on my mood. Sometimes I rather play Splinter cell and others MGS3...but more often then not, I am happy being a ninja in the now dated but always well liked, Tenchu.

[hippie_hunter]

Technically it should be the Metal Gear 6 thread since MGS4 will not be called MGS4.

Also an interesting tid-bit was revealed not to long ago: the main part of this game is that there is "nowhere to hide"

[Matt]

I don't like the aspect of "a whole new story line" ....they need to finish up with the Patriots....the problem is, I believe they dug themselves into a hole. How can Snake really take on an entire government? That's why I think they went with the prequel in MGS3.

[hippie_hunter]

I don't like the aspect of "a whole new story line" ....they need to finish up with the Patriots....the problem is, I believe they dug themselves into a hole. How can Snake really take on an entire government? That's why I think they went with the prequel in MGS3.

The prequel explained a whole lot of confusing elements of the Metal Gear series such as why Big Boss went bad (at first it appeared that he was just evil but now it seems that it was more of a defiance of the Patriots), and why the Patriots on GW's list were dead for almost 100 years. Metal Gear 6 will continue the Patriots storyline with Solid Snake, Otacon, Meryl, "Liquid Ocelot" (and maybe Raiden, Mei Ling, and the Colonel will make appearances)

[Matt]

The prequel explained a whole lot of confusing elements of the Metal Gear series such as why Big Boss went bad (at first it appeared that he was just evil but now it seems that it was more of a defiance of the Patriots), and why the Patriots on GW's list were dead for almost 100 years. Metal Gear 6 will continue the Patriots storyline with Solid Snake, Otacon, Meryl, "Liquid Ocelot" (and maybe Raiden, Mei Ling, and the Colonel will make appearances)

Yes, it explained things, but the question can still be asked...where do you go with the story now? I think that could be a hole they may have dug themselves into.

[hippie_hunter]

Yes, it explained things, but the question can still be asked...where do you go with the story now? I think that could be a hole they may have dug themselves into.

Maybe they're on the run from the Patriots hence the "nowhere to hide" part of the game

[Matt]

Maybe they're on the run from the Patriots hence the "nowhere to hide" part of the game

Ok, fine, but still, where does the over all plot go. Say Snake stops the Patriots...every government in the world suddenly falls, all economys crash, etc. It's kinda hard to resolve that.

[hippie_hunter]

Ok, fine, but still, where does the over all plot go. Say Snake stops the Patriots...every government in the world suddenly falls, all economys crash, etc. It's kinda hard to resolve that.

Hmmmmmmmmm..........you got a point

[Matt]

Hmmmmmmmmm..........you got a point

Yep, that is what I meant by saying they have kinda dug themselves into a hole.

[Jspider13]

I just can't wait to finally kick some ass with Solid Snake again.

[Capt Throbberson]

The prequel explained a whole lot of confusing elements of the Metal Gear series such as why Big Boss went bad (at first it appeared that he was just evil but now it seems that it was more of a defiance of the Patriots), and why the Patriots on GW's list were dead for almost 100 years. Metal Gear 6 will continue the Patriots storyline with Solid Snake, Otacon, Meryl, "Liquid Ocelot" (and maybe Raiden, Mei Ling, and the Colonel will make appearances)
Will you stop with the "Metal gear 6" crap. I know there were metal gear games before MGS, and we're not doubting your "1337 MGS $k111z". It's real title is "Metal gear solid 4". Did the box on MGS3 say Metal Gear 5? No, it didnt, thus that's not it's title

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

Well it is true that MGS story has dug itself in a hole... but what if part of the story lies precisely that Snake can't beat the system and that he's forced to stop Oceliquid from breaking the balance... afterall... The Patriots... are a necesary EVIL. and Now Snake has to PROTECT them...

[Erzengel]

I think while both Splinter Cell (I bought the 1st 2 and I will buy the 3rd) and Metal Gear (I bought 6 of them and I wanna buy Acid) have similar features. They are relatively different enough that you don't necessarily have to dislike one in favor of the other.

While I enjoy being unseen in Splinter Cell, I do enjoy more of a weaponry in Metal Gear.

[hippie_hunter]

Will you stop with the "Metal gear 6" crap. I know there were metal gear games before MGS, and we're not doubting your "1337 MGS $k111z". It's real title is "Metal gear solid 4". Did the box on MGS3 say Metal Gear 5? No, it didnt, thus that's not it's title

No because its already been confirmed that it will not be called MGS4. Until it gets an official title like Metal Gear Liquid or Metal Gear Gear or Metal Gear Crisis or whatever, I will continue calling it Metal Gear 6.

[Zenien]

Metal Gear refers to the 2D adventures of Snake (the Gameboy game in Japan was refered to as Metal Gear, not Metal Gear Solid). Kojima said he added Solid in to represent the 3D nature. And Acid is just...weird.

[hippie_hunter]

Gamespot says that there might be a chance that MG6 will appear in E3 and might be a launch title for the PS3. Here to hoping its true

[AshtonFoster]

I think they should set a Metal Gear Solid in the 1970s when the 'les enfant project' gets underway. After playing MGS3, and after the amazing ending, I want to play again as the original Snake....

[Mr. Credible]

A Metal Gear game on next-gen consoles? As long as Kojima is involved (which I'm sure he will be after the lukewarm reception of Metal Gear Ac!d) then I'll be a happy camper, a happy camper indeed.

:D

[hippie_hunter]

A Metal Gear game on next-gen consoles? As long as Kojima is involved (which I'm sure he will be after the lukewarm reception of Metal Gear Ac!d) then I'll be a happy camper, a happy camper indeed.

:D

Kojima had no involvement in MGA whatsoever, in MG6 he will play a very big part, though not as big as the part he played in the MGS trilogy

[Mr. Credible]

Kojima had no involvement in MGA whatsoever, in MG6 he will play a very big part, though not as big as the part he played in the MGS trilogy

That's what I meant... Kojima wasn't involved with Ac!d, so, (from what I hear) it kinda sucked. I'm sure he learned from that mistake, and will take better care with Metal Gear 4... or 6. Whatever.

[Boom]

As Jspider put it, I can't wait to play as Solid Snake again. I look forward to seeing his "new" look :up:.

[hippie_hunter]

That's what I meant... Kojima wasn't involved with Ac!d, so, (from what I hear) it kinda sucked. I'm sure he learned from that mistake, and will take better care with Metal Gear 4... or 6. Whatever.

MGA did not suck. I liked it

[Majin Boo]

lets hope this game is more like the Original MG or MGS1 and less like the crapstactic MGS2

[Mr. Credible]

MGA did not suck. I liked it

Really? From what I've heard about the story... Well, let's just say I'm skeptical. But I suppose you being the "metal gear whore" that you are, I can probably trust your opinion.

*starts saving up for PSP*

[hippie_hunter]

Really? From what I've heard about the story... Well, let's just say I'm skeptical. But I suppose you being the "metal gear whore" that you are, I can probably trust your opinion.

*starts saving up for PSP*

Its no MGS, and the story is really odd, at first the card system is really frustrating but once you get the hang of it, its quite fun, just have to get used to taking turns with your opponent and never having the card you need right away

[Electro UK]

Here's hoping this time you kill the real Raiden :up: Screw Olgas baby :p

[spider-jide]

Well it is true that MGS story has dug itself in a hole... but what if part of the story lies precisely that Snake can't beat the system and that he's forced to stop Oceliquid from breaking the balance... afterall... The Patriots... are a necesary EVIL. and Now Snake has to PROTECT them...

Thats true. Wasn't liquid on a quest to hunt down and destroy the patriots? In fact, isn't that what Solidus' aim was? I think its going to be a huge story with many plot twists, it should be great. Snake may have to defend himself and maybe help both sides.

[spider-jide]

Gamespot says that there might be a chance that MG6 will appear in E3 and might be a launch title for the PS3. Here to hoping its true

That is true. MGS4 is the main attraction alongside the unravveling of PS3.

[spider-jide]

A Metal Gear game on next-gen consoles? As long as Kojima is involved (which I'm sure he will be after the lukewarm reception of Metal Gear Ac!d) then I'll be a happy camper, a happy camper indeed.

:D

Kojima said he'll be a producer for MGS4 but he's going to be more hands on with this new game because he wont be able to resist the advancements that the ps3 offers.

[Mr. Credible]

Kojima said he'll be a producer for MGS4 but he's going to be more hands on with this new game because he wont be able to resist the advancements that the ps3 offers.

I hope you guy's don't mind me saying... that gave me an erection... a big one.:hulk:

[Peter North]

My erections are enviable :o

And yeah, that sounds good and all, but come on, does this guy ever do what he initially says he going to do? MGS4 shouldn't even exist according to him, and he shouldn't be anything more than a distant producer either, not that I'm complaining or anything.

[spider-jide]

Either way, the New Metalgear game is going to obviusly kick ass and surpass MGS3. Kojima isn't going to let crap be delivered to us.

[S_H_F_4839]

I just feel that SC does the whole stealth thing better, although you've got to love the MGS story.

I just found it SO hard to be stealthy on MGS3.

can you imagine, a game that took the stealth aspect and style of splinter cell and put it with a story similar to the depth that comes in a metal gear game, my only gripe with the splinter cell games, is the story sometimes loses me, for example he had a daughter in the first one, but you dont hear from her at all in chaos theory, and I havent played pandora tommorrow in awhile so I cant remember if she takes part in that one.

Now to get back on topic, I think kojima will end up taking back over and directing later on, but here is a question for everyone, anyone else think that they will not bring back solid snake.

I do not think they are going to bring him back yet, I think what they are likely to do, is make a game about liquid.

hear me out for a second, he is the leader of the latest team of foxhound, what kind of missions do you think he completed to get that job, I think it would be cool to get to play as Liquid and it show him, complete a big mission, then discover the patriots and what they are, which leads to him decideing to cause the shadow moses incident. I doubt they would take it that far, but he would show obvious signs of going that way. Maybe even have big boss be involved to a certain degree.

[Majin Boo]

Either way, the New Metalgear game is going to obviusly kick ass and surpass MGS3. Kojima isn't going to let crap be delivered to us.

mgs2

[cyborg ninja 14]

Its no MGS, and the story is really odd, at first the card system is really frustrating but once you get the hang of it, its quite fun, just have to get used to taking turns with your opponent and never having the card you need right away

I have it to, and agree:up:

[spider-jide]

mgs2


What's your point? MGS2 was still a cool game. Yeah the story got wack and the whole Raiden thing but Kojima has learned his lesson, hence the majesty that is MGS3. MGS4 wont dissapoint.

[S_H_F_4839]

I have a question for everyone, what would everyone say to this idea. they remake the nes mg, the first one.

but it would be split up similar to mgs2.

the first part you would play as grey fox, up until he is captured, then you would play as the rookie solid snake who big boss decides to send in.

[Electro UK]

Bumped at the request of Boom.

[Zenien]

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[Zenien]

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[WhatsHisFace]

This is the best looking PS3 game so far. Except maybe Splinter Cell: Double Agent.

[Electro UK]

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Still a lot to hear about from here.

Raiden with Olga's baby

Meryl's absence

Vamp

WHY THE HELL IS BIG BOSS STANDING THERE!?!?!

Among other things...

[The Trainman]

A small interview with Kojima.

Source: www.metalgearsolid.org

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[hippie_hunter]

Man, things are just looking worse and worse for Snake's longevity :(

[Boom]

Snake's going to die. I bet me left leg on it.

[Electro UK]

Yep, he's gonna bite dust... I don't want him to though :(

[Boom]

Yep, he's gonna bite dust... I don't want him to though :(
Given his condition, I want him to.

[The Riddler]

snake will die, but that won't stop them from making new mgs games.

perhaps prequels.

[CrypticOne]

This game is gonna rock ya' nock.

Kojima will be directing, at least co-directing.

Revolver Ocelot is the best character in the series. He so kicks a** and you people know it.

Sam Fisher vs. Solid Snake. Solid Snake hands down. I'ma MGS loyal to the end.

[Mr. Credible]

i'm sure this game is going to rock me like a hurricane, but why did they have to tell us that snake will die? they could keep raiden a secret in MGS2, but this they spoil? i hope there's more to this then meets the eye.


oh, and 'octo-camo' sounds sweet ass!

[Boom]

i'm sure this game is going to rock me like a hurricane, but why did they have to tell us that snake will die? they could keep raiden a secret in MGS2, but this they spoil? i hope there's more to this then meets the eye.


oh, and 'octo-camo' sounds sweet ass!
I figured he would die anyway. The question is: HOW will he die?

[XwolverineX]

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Still a lot to hear about from here.

Raiden with Olga's baby

Meryl's absence

Vamp

WHY THE HELL IS BIG BOSS STANDING THERE!?!?!

Among other things...


How do you know that's Olga's baby? It could be Raiden's and Rose baby, since the baby would have grown up by now. And Meryl is there? :confused:

[Mr. Credible]

I figured he would die anyway. The question is: HOW will he die?

probably from that gun he had in his mouth!

no, i'm sure kojima won't be that obvious, but still... how big of a shock would it be if he'd kept this a secret, so you're playing through the game, you beat it, then BAM! snake dies...

i feel more spoiled then i did when i found out that snape killed dumbledore, or jason is superman's kid

like i said, i hope they've got something up their collective sleeves.

[Mr. Credible]

How do you know that's Olga's baby? It could be Raiden's and Rose baby, since the baby would have grown up by now. And Meryl is there? :confused:

because olga's baby is the only baby we actually know of. sure, it could be jack and rose's, or it could even be snakes, who knows? but i doubt they's show it if that were the case... it's more likely that it's olga's.

[Boom]

Olga's child is a plot point. He is an unanswered question left from MGS2. This game is going to answer every question that the second game left up in the air. Olga's child will be in this game, that is a guarantee.

[Carter]

Snake should probably die, it's gonna be a tearjerker

[Zenien]

http://www.fileupyours.com/files/44572/MGS4%20Full%20HD%20Trailer%20[15%20mins].wmv.torrent

For the superior version of the trailer, (Gametrailers isn't as sharp).

[Phaser]

IGN's got a true HD trailer with a 1280x720i resolution that measures in at around a gigabyte in size. Looks pretty damn sweet. :up:

[WhatsHisFace]

The MGS4 trailer wasn't worth the timespan. :(

[Phaser]

The MGS4 trailer wasn't worth the timespan. :(

Do you mean the time taken to download the damn thing or it's actual runtime?

[WhatsHisFace]

Do you mean the time taken to download the damn thing or it's actual runtime?
Hahahaha, well, it was quite the wait.

But I would say there's a lot of waisted time in the trailer. There are extended meaningless shots of people sitting around on trucks or waiting on a building. They seem like they're supposed to build emotion or elicit some kind of anticipation, but there's really nothing about them. I guess with suspenseful music to guide how we feel it could become a good edit, but a lot of the preview felt very insignificant.

I'm all for Kojima's desire to make a film, but he's really not doing anything for the fans by wasting their time with pointless shots and senseless voice-overs.

[sandwraith]

MGS 4's got me by the balls and Kojima's just adding the pressure (ouch). I wouldn't put too much faith in what Hideo says in his interviews though. I've always noted how guarded he is and by "revealing all" he reveals dick and just talks about the trailer, could bes, maybes and its a concept we're working on. The man embodies information warfare. He is one tight-lipped SOB. One article I've read does concern me. In PSM a few months back, Kojima mentioned how American gamers/fans (whom are predominantly Solid Snake loyal, myself included) might grow to like Raiden more than Snake. Now I know that Raiden has quite a following (for reasons that elude me) but I'm just hoping that if Snake does "die", we don't end up having to play as Blondie for the rest of the game

[Zenien]

IGN's got a true HD trailer with a 1280x720i resolution that measures in at around a gigabyte in size. Looks pretty damn sweet. :up:

Yes but you need to be a member, or you can just use the torrent I have conveniently posted that CONTAINS said IGN file in its full glory.

Hahahaha, well, it was quite the wait.

But I would say there's a lot of waisted time in the trailer. There are extended meaningless shots of people sitting around on trucks or waiting on a building. They seem like they're supposed to build emotion or elicit some kind of anticipation, but there's really nothing about them. I guess with suspenseful music to guide how we feel it could become a good edit, but a lot of the preview felt very insignificant.

I'm all for Kojima's desire to make a film, but he's really not doing anything for the fans by wasting their time with pointless shots and senseless voice-overs.

IT'S CALLED ATMOSPHERE!!!! I really like the methodical pacing of this trailer, it's definately emulating a 'western' in how it holds character shots and takes its time. I really like it, it's actually one of my most re-watchable Metal Gear trailers. I'll sit back and just watch it from start to finish for no othr reason but to watch the mini storycontained within.

IT IS AWESOMENESS CUBED :mad:

[Zenien]

double post.

[WhatsHisFace]

IT'S CALLED ATMOSPHERE!!!! I really like the methodical pacing of this trailer, it's definately emulating a 'western' in how it holds character shots and takes its time. I really like it, it's actually one of my most re-watchable Metal Gear trailers. I'll sit back and just watch it from start to finish for no othr reason but to watch the mini storycontained within.

IT IS AWESOMENESS CUBED :mad:
Atmosphere is more in art direction/cinematography than it is in having prolonged cuts of Snake sitting on a box.

Then we get to see Kojima's attempt to make Raiden cool, a fifteen minute clip of Raiden dancing around the walking robots until they all die. It's going to take a lot of strong writing and pretention (that the fans will no doubt eat up) to bring Raiden back from "suckiest character ever".

[hippie_hunter]

Atmosphere is more in art direction/cinematography than it is in having prolonged cuts of Snake sitting on a box.

Then we get to see Kojima's attempt to make Raiden cool, a fifteen minute clip of Raiden dancing around the walking robots until they all die. It's going to take a lot of strong writing and pretention (that the fans will no doubt eat up) to bring Raiden back from "suckiest character ever".

Raiden is not the suckiest character ever, he's just really hated because he replaced Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid 2 and was nowhere near the levels of coolness that Snake had.

[Electro UK]

Raiden is not the suckiest character ever, he's just really hated because he replaced Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid 2 and was nowhere near the levels of coolness that Snake had.

And kept getting phoned by a ****** called Rose that no one liked :(

[Zenien]

Don't hate Raiden because of Rose, jerkfaces, he wasn't a bad character!

[Electro UK]

Don't hate Raiden because of Rose, jerkfaces, he wasn't a bad character!

...but he wasn't Snake either :(

[Phaser]

Yes but you need to be a member, or you can just use the torrent I have conveniently posted that CONTAINS said IGN file in its full glory.

I've been a member of IGN Insider and Gamespot Complete since more than three years now, which is how I get all the best downloads at the fastest of speeds. Meanwhile, keep seeding, young ones. :cool:


IT'S CALLED ATMOSPHERE!!!! I really like the methodical pacing of this trailer, it's definately emulating a 'western' in how it holds character shots and takes its time. I really like it, it's actually one of my most re-watchable Metal Gear trailers. I'll sit back and just watch it from start to finish for no othr reason but to watch the mini storycontained within.

IT IS AWESOMENESS CUBED :mad:

It would have been a lot better had that stupid broad stopped with her wailing and instead, we got some quality MGS music by Harry Gregson-Williams.

And the game is set in the Middle East right? But the music and presentation is...Japanese? WTF? Talk about inappropriate. Guess Kojima occassionally gets so wrapped up in trying to make something increasingly (and perhaps even unnecessarily) emotional that he ends up trying too hard and forgetting what works and what does not.

[Phaser]

Don't hate Raiden because of Rose, jerkfaces, he wasn't a bad character!

He could have been at least a decent character had it not been for his overflowing feminism (but I could see you would love that) and the fact that he was a whiny, gutless and increasingly gullible prick who constantly got played around like a cue-ball.

[sandwraith]

I don't hate Raiden...much. Even if Spyro does sit about 40 spots above him on my list. Of course, Spyro sits above a lot of guys on my list...Spyro...Ok, back from my tangent now. Raiden was an OK character but not exactly the type to appease the fans. It's obvious from his designs and attitude that he was meant to be a favorite in Japan where strangely enough, Snake isn't as popular. Japs just love their Bishonen type characters. Just be grateful he wasn't one of them Cold pretty boy types who are predominant in Japanese media right now. And not that my opinion matters or anything but the fact that MGS 4 has this much heat on it shows that Kojima knows exactly what works. About the Middle Eastern thingie...well...I don't think something out of Radio Del Mundo would have been appropriate either. A trailer's a trailer man. Well see when the real deal hits.

...a little OT but any word of a Spyro game in the works? Just kidding. Oh yeah, Valkryie Profile Silmeria hit Japan today. Any reviews yet?

[James"007"Bond]

Don't hate Raiden because of Rose, jerkfaces, he wasn't a bad character!

I'm inclined to agree here. MGS2 when playing it 1st time round was a bit baffling at certain points and I think Raiden was a good character in representing a somewhat confused player. However, this wears off once you actually get the gist of what the hell is actually going on. Still, I thought Raiden was a cool character. He was just inexperienced, not fully informed and most importantly wasn't solid snake. Raiden turned out to be a scape goat once we were robbed of playing snake.

[Electro UK]

W00t!

Threads back on page one thanks to the division of the games board.

http://www.edusworld.org/ew/ficheros/2005/metal-gear-solid-4-20050915072836606.jpg
http://www.ps3rules.com/ps3-images/ps3-screenshots/metalgear1.jpg

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/05/DSC_2423.JPG

[Topdawg]

Too bad raiden wont be playable.

[Capt Throbberson]

Too bad raiden wont be playable.
Just because he's a robot now doesn't make him any less crappy a character :down

[B1g Jerm]

Raiden was great character in MGS2. The fact that he replaced Snake made me a little pissed but then he became a cool character once him and Snake fought side by side. And I can't wait to play as him online....if the rumors are true.

[Mentok]

Raiden sucks.

[B1g Jerm]

Not anymore

[Topdawg]

he shouldnt of replaced snake, but he's a cool character nonetheless.

[Zenien]

SO when's that new trailer suppose to hit again?

[Electro UK]

SO when's that new trailer suppose to hit again?

24-27th of August, along with a Portable OPS one too. :up:

[XwolverineX]

Yesss, the ****ing game that's making me buy a 600 dollar Console. DO! :mad:

[WhatsHisFace]

Raiden should have just been killed.

[Topdawg]

There is a rumor that microsoft is buying Rockstar.

[Zenien]

There was a rumor they were buying Nintendo, wrong thread.

[Topdawg]

what thread should i post it in then?

[Boom]

http://www.metalgearsolid.org/show_news.php?id=736

****.YEAH.

[Zenien]

Oh man new Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer and Portable Ops goodness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Topdawg]

cant wait!!!

[Boom]

"Colonel!"

[CrypticOne]

MGS4 is sure to be a bada** game! Revolver Ocelot is my #1 favorite character in this series. I can't wait to see what he does. Hopefully we get to know some of the members of The Patriots.

The title Guns of the Patriots, since I heard it, I have this thought that the main boss in this game will be Revolver Ocelot or Liquid Ocelot, what have you. Because "Guns" of the Patriots to me means that we are gonna fight the people right below the Patriots and hopefully in MGS5 we will get to face the Patriots.

The trailer was was amazing. Raiden was cool. I never liked Raiden until I saw this trailer.

I like how Solid Snake is gonna go in and other people will be fighting a war.

[Trigger]

I want to see more of these new Metal Gears. Are there any trailers with them in it? I've heard some really wierd things about them (but knowing Kojima, they're true.)

[CrypticOne]

I want to see more of these new Metal Gears. Are there any trailers with them in it? I've heard some really wierd things about them (but knowing Kojima, they're true.)

Yeah, the new Metal Gears are in the trailer.

[Aiden]

OH SNAP!!!

Even though I'm not buying a PS3 (at the moment). I still love MGS :O

[Boom]

(at the moment)
Neither am I. I figure I'll wait a year, and then steal one, at which point the store owners probably wouldn't care :o.

[B1g Jerm]

I don't think Snake will actually die at the end. Someone or somethung has to save our beloved hero.

[Electro UK]

I'm still in denial about it...

I really don't want him to die. :(

[B1g Jerm]

:confused: It will be very sad if he does.:confused:

[CrypticOne]

I don't think Solid Snake will die. But I won't be surprised if he does die.

[hippie_hunter]

I don't think Snake will actually die at the end. Someone or somethung has to save our beloved hero.

I think he will die. I think he will pull the trigger. And just like when the player had to pull the trigger at the end of Metal Gear Solid 3 to kill the boss, I think Kojima will make the player kill Snake :(

[B1g Jerm]

I think he will die. I think he will pull the trigger. And just like when the player had to pull the trigger at the end of Metal Gear Solid 3 to kill the boss, I think Kojima will make the player kill Snake :(

Well I'm pulling the trigger although I didn't waste any time killing The Boss. She was seriously kicking my azz.

[B1g Jerm]

I think he will die. I think he will pull the trigger. And just like when the player had to pull the trigger at the end of Metal Gear Solid 3 to kill the boss, I think Kojima will make the player kill Snake :(

Well I'm not pulling the trigger although I didn't waste any time killing The Boss. She was seriously kicking my azz.

[B1g Jerm]

I miss The Boss :(

[hippie_hunter]

Well I'm not pulling the trigger although I didn't waste any time killing The Boss. She was seriously kicking my azz.


I felt bad killing the Boss. It took me about half a minute to press the trigger button and let go

[B1g Jerm]

I felt bad killing the Boss. It took me about half a minute to press the trigger button and let go

Yeah it was a little bittersweet but she had to finish her mission.

[XwolverineX]

No, I just killed her, and laughed.

[Topdawg]

^LoL!!!! Me too i didnt hesistate, the ***** broke ****ing arm!!! LMAO!!

[XwolverineX]

^LoL!!!! Me too i didnt hesistate, the ***** broke ****ing arm!!! LMAO!!

Yeah, anyone that throws me off a bridge is getting a bullet in the skull, no if ands or buts.

[B1g Jerm]

Wouldn't it be crazy if they made a prequel to MGS3. With the player as The Boss. They don't even have to make it MGS5. Just call it: The Boss,"The Betrayal for our Future". lol. Its the Prequel to the Prequel.

[Topdawg]

Interesting idea, though i think MGS4 is the last one.

[B1g Jerm]

Interesting idea, though i think MGS4 is the last one.

Yeah. It will be sad to see one of the greatest game series ever to end. I hope they keep it going anyway and just let someone else take over.

[XwolverineX]

Didn't they say MGS3 was going to be the last one?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115727

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=144846

Ahhh.

"Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer debuts at Leipzig

Tuesday 22-Aug-2006 9:53 AM Hideo Kojima's PS3 opus gets fresh movie love at this year's Leipzig Games Convention - with first in-game footage!

Metal Gear Solid 4 is a key title for the PlayStation 3's launch period and one of the first games guaranteed to give Sony's next-gen console some must have appeal.

Well as you'll know from E3, where we managed to catch a word with legendary creator Hideo Kojima on the next and possibly final incarnation of Solid Snake's adventures (though we hope Kojima will at least keep the door ajar for future offerings), MGS4 already has us more excited than a bag of puppies.

Well, more should be known at Leipzig tomorrow about this 'Most Wanted' of all PS3 titles with a brand new movie debuting, which should give further clues to the all-consuming beast which is MGS4. From what we hear on the wind it's going to be an absolute corker too, with attendees (including us) treated to the first in-game action from the title, which will feature actual PS3 gameplay visuals, as well as the usual carefully crafted and absorbing cut-scenes which are such a feature of the series.

We hope it won't be too long before Konami unleashes the trailer on an entirely suspecting world too, but if not, we'll be there to bring you footage direct from the show floor with our usual wobbly cam antics. Are we excited? Most definitely!"

[Topdawg]

Well in MGS4 snake's body is decaying he only has like 60 days to live and to carry out his final mission.

[Electro UK]

Thanks for sharing that with us. :confused:

OH and he has 6 months to live, that's closer to 180 days :up:

[Tapela]

Looking forward to renting MGS4 and a PS3 and finally finishing the saga. Kojima said snake would not die IN the game, he didn't say he wouldnt die AFTER. I imagine he will have 6 months to live, the game completes and he lives out the rest of his life in Alaska or something again till he dies from old age thanks to botched cloning.

I've always loved MGS and Snake. The only reason I did not like Raiden was because he was sticking his nose into Snakes story and saga. Not to mention he's only there because the developers wanted stupid japanese school girls to play the game. All they did was alienate alot of their market (US) for the series. So I think Raiden sucks because he's Raiden, not because he looks prettier than me.

That being said I'm glad Raiden is a supporting character now and Snake could use all the friends he can get. Just as long as he doesnt get in the way of Snakes game time :). Oh yeah I love that he's a cyborg in a way.


Why? Because if you're a MGS fan you know what happens to the Ninjas.

[Mentok]

Yeah, RAIDEN looks half decent in this game :eek:

[B1g Jerm]

Will MGS4 have super villians like the others?

[Mr. Vice]

Will MGS4 have super villians like the others?

Of course! You can't have a MGS game without over-the-top villians. :up:

[B1g Jerm]

Of course! You can't have a MGS game without over-the-top villians. :up:

I know but the trailer looks so real.

[muertevilla]

Raiden looks pretty damn cool in the new one. He did look rather q ueerish in mgs2 but i dont think it alienated fans. it was more hideo's way of involving the player into the game more. to be able to mold anyone into a trained killer. I thought it was good idea. Im just looking forward to finding out who the patriots are. I still play mgs2. more than mgs3 even. the trailers and screenshots look awsome for guns of the patriots though. i cant wait to pawn all my stuff and get the ps3 and mgs4 and totally disappear from the face of the earth until i beat it on all the levels.

[Avalanche]

Just confirmation of what we already knew. MGS4 will be at TGS.

PS3

Coded Arms Assault
Mahjong Kakutou Ku-Ra-Bu PS3 (Mahjong Fight Club)
Metal Gear Solid 4

PSP

Mahjong Kakutou Ku-Ra-Bu Zenkoku Taisen-Ban (aka, Mahjong Fight Club National Competition Version)
Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops
World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 Ubiquitous Evolution
Silent Hill Origins

PS2

Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 13
J League Winning Eleven 10 + Europe League 06-07
pop'n music 13 Carnival
GuitarFreaks V2 & DrumMania V2
beatmania IIDX Happy Sky
Dance Dance Revolution Super Nova
Negima!? San-Jikan-Me
Flatout 2 GTR

[Boom]

From MGS.Org:

"Our favourite game creator, Hideo Kojima, spoke to Dengeki PS today about the new Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer, expected to be shown at Tokyo Game Show next week.

According to Dengeki and Kojima, the new trailer will show the fans what the game atmosphere during the gameplay will be."

[Avalanche]

Hmm, the atmosphere. In other words, we won't really see much of the actual gameplay. We'll just get a feel for it.

[Boom]

Also, apparently Famitsu Magazine will have new MGS4 info in next week's issue. This makes sense, since the same thing happened for last year's TGS.

[James"007"Bond]

when is tgs exactly?

[Mentok]

September 22nd to 24th

[Mentok]

From MGS.Org:

"Our favourite game creator, Hideo Kojima, spoke to Dengeki PS today about the new Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer, expected to be shown at Tokyo Game Show next week.

According to Dengeki and Kojima, the new trailer will show the fans what the game atmosphere during the gameplay will be."

Polite way of saying 'dont expect any gameplay fotage'.

I have had enough of video presentations :down

[Avalanche]

^

MGS is always video presentations. It's all they do.

[The Amazing Lee]

it's because the whole game is a video presentation. :o

[Boom]

You know what? Your negative energy is really clouding this topic :o.

[James"007"Bond]

September 22nd to 24th

merci

[The Amazing Lee]

Don't worry, I love the MGS games. :)

[Mentok]

^

MGS is always video presentations. It's all they do.

Monkey crap!

The best MGS stuff is almost always GAMEPLAY footage. Thats all people give a crap about.

No one cares about the ingame cinematics.

You still have to play the game. Thus GAMEPLAY footage is what people want to see.

[Boom]

Good news.

Metal Gear Solid 4 will have a 40-minute presentation EACH DAY of TGS, and the trailer will feature realtime gameplay footage.

http://www.metalgearsolid.org/show_news.php?id=812

[kytrigger]

They're having a new 40 minutes every day? Damn, that's a lot of footage, unless it's the same footage over and over, in which case, it's still quite a bit...

[Boom]

They're having a new 40 minutes every day? Damn, that's a lot of footage, unless it's the same footage over and over, in which case, it's still quite a bit...
I doubt they're showing 40 minutes of footage. There will most likely only be one trailer. The presentations will probably be similar to what was done last year.

-Show the trailer.
-Talk about it.
-Manipulate it.

[XwolverineX]

A 40 minute trailer? Awesome.

[Boom]

It's not a 40 minute trailer.

The PRESENTATIONS are 40 minutes.

Presentation doesn't mean just a trailer.

[Avalanche]

Monkey crap!

The best MGS stuff is almost always GAMEPLAY footage. Thats all people give a crap about.

No one cares about the ingame cinematics.

You still have to play the game. Thus GAMEPLAY footage is what people want to see.
I agree. I think you misinterpreted me. I stated the trailers tend to show more cinematics than gameplay, not that I preferred this.

[Avalanche]

A 40 minute trailer? Awesome.
I don't know. That would be a bit too long.

MGS trailers can be a bit of a chore sometimes.

[Mentok]

I agree. I think you misinterpreted me. I stated the trailers tend to show more cinematics than gameplay, not that I preferred this.

Monkey Crap! :cmad:

Nah, thats cool... I understand you.

I just like to use the words MONKEY CRAP! :up:

[XwolverineX]

It's not a 40 minute trailer.

The PRESENTATIONS are 40 minutes.

Presentation doesn't mean just a trailer.


Oh, I see. :o

[Avalanche]

http://www.havamedia.net/CGR/8/M/HAVAContent/Images/9000/9511_med.jpg
http://www.havamedia.net/CGR/8/M/HAVAContent/Images/9000/9512_med.jpg
http://www.havamedia.net/CGR/8/M/HAVAContent/Images/9000/9513_med.jpg
http://www.havamedia.net/CGR/8/M/HAVAContent/Images/9000/9514_med.jpg

Gameplay shots apparantly.

[Timstuff]

Whoa, awesome! :eek::up:

[Topdawg]

THE AWESOMENESS IS TOO MUCH!!!!!!

i heard MGS4 will have a RE4 camera angle when shooting.:D

[LexCorp]

So here I am thinking wow what a great series of games this has been so far. Why the hell do we not have a thread on the fourth yet? So here it is. Little infromation has been released so far on this game. All I've heard of is that Hideos not directing and that it's going back to Solid Snake with a whole new story line (Yay!)
With how early MGS3 screenshots came out, I expect we'll see some screens in the not to distant future.
So what are you waiting for? Discuss people!

Yes very cool idea for a thread. I love the series and can not wait for the release. It's for the story more than anything.

[LexCorp]

http://www.havamedia.net/CGR/8/M/HAVAContent/Images/9000/9511_med.jpg
http://www.havamedia.net/CGR/8/M/HAVAContent/Images/9000/9512_med.jpg
http://www.havamedia.net/CGR/8/M/HAVAContent/Images/9000/9513_med.jpg
http://www.havamedia.net/CGR/8/M/HAVAContent/Images/9000/9514_med.jpg

Gameplay shots apparantly.

From a magazine? Looks very cool.

[Electro UK]

:wow: Those shots are AWESOME! Man I need to go clean my pants

[Avalanche]

From a magazine? Looks very cool.
Taken from here:

http://www.news4gamers.com/ps3/News-9508.aspx

[블라스]

Holy **** :up:

[Boom]

I like the small changes made to Snake's design. I'm loving what I see :up:.

[LexCorp]

Thanks for that.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/09/Solid_Snake_%28MGS2%29.jpg/275px-Solid_Snake_%28MGS2%29.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Solid_Snake_%28MGS2%29.jpg)

Snake!!!!!!!!!!! All I need is here for my bad memory.

[Electro UK]

http://www.metalgearsolid.org/admin/data/upimages/uploaded/famgs4.jpg
Spot the Snake ;)

[Boom]

That camo mask he has is ****ing badass.

[LexCorp]

You know I saw that new camo gear he is using in MSG4 and it is fantastic. Looks like he will be able to blend in with an object he touched like a wall or ruble etc...

[Avalanche]

http://www.metalgearsolid.org/admin/data/upimages/uploaded/famgs4.jpg
Spot the Snake ;)
Well, the gameplay is based on the idea of their being nowhere to hide. Perhaps being able to blend with the environment will be his only way out.

[LexCorp]

Well, the gameplay is based on the idea of their being nowhere to hide. Perhaps being able to blend with the environment will be his only way out.

Yeah that was my thoughts to. Wonder how effective it will be in game, how close an enemy can get to you??? Do you need to be touching the area you want to copy? It's almost like the stealth pack. Given the advance in years in the games story they should of invented this for Snake by now but that's a little tiny side note.

[Topdawg]

http://www.ps4focus.nl/sitee/nieuws/bekijk.php?id=2798

there you can view the scans bigger!!!!

that camo looks ****ing badass

[LexCorp]

Continuing but simplifying the camouflage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_camouflage) system seen in MGS3, Snake will wear "Octocamo" (named after the octopus' camouflage ability), which will be mimetic and will imitate the appearance of the environment it's in.

Taken from Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid_4:_Guns_of_the_Patriots#Gameplay

[Avalanche]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8959/mgs4lq1.jpg
I've circled something that caught my attention.

Is that a mini Metal Gear?

[블라스]

CQC is in.
Yes! :up:

[LexCorp]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8959/mgs4lq1.jpg
I've circled something that caught my attention.

Is that a mini Metal Gear?

That looks like Otacons little codec robot. I hear that it will follow Snake around acting as a codec type contact for Snake. Looks like it may do more???

[Boom]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8959/mgs4lq1.jpg
I've circled something that caught my attention.

Is that a mini Metal Gear?
It's Otacon's MKII unit.

[Timstuff]

ME WANT. :up:

[Boom]

I'm still not a big fan of the way they're making Snake's hair.

It looks like a helmet. Not natural at all.

[Topdawg]

CAnt wait for HD gameplay Vids!!!!

all those comparisons to Gears of Flop, will END.

[Avalanche]

^

Who makes those comparisons? They're wildly different games.

[Topdawg]

^

Who makes those comparisons? They're wildly different games.

Retarded xbots.lol

seriously i have people seen making those comparisons.:csad:

[Boom]

This game sexes me up.

[블라스]

Gears of....Flop? :confused:

[Boom]

Hmm...it's just what I feared.

The ingame model of Snake looks blocky. I don't know how to describe it. He looks like a pieced-together action figure. It just doesn't look like a natural human figure.

I'm too critical of these graphics :o.

[Electro UK]

Gears of....Flop? :confused:

Topdawgs way of saying its on X-box so it'll suck. I'd like to see what he'd think about it if it were coming to PS3 :rolleyes:

[Mentok]

Hmm...it's just what I feared.

The ingame model of Snake looks blocky. I don't know how to describe it. He looks like a pieced-together action figure. It just doesn't look like a natural human figure.

I'm too critical of these graphics :o.

Yeah.. One of the bad things about a new MGS game... I cant help but be over critical. :(

Still I am sure I will enjoy it no matter what :up:

[Mentok]

CQC is in.
Yes! :up:

I hope they reworked it though. It didnt really work that well in MGS3 :(

It seems a little better in MGS3 - SUBSISTENCE though.

[Zenien]

MGS has always had a sort of subversive action figure look to it's characters though, as far back as MGS1.

I'm looking at these screens and I think I'm seeing some RE4 style camera system over the shoulder going on.

[Mentok]

Bring on the higher res versions so I can get a proper look at it :up:

[Mentok]

Speaking on MGS4 with Famitsu, Kojima made note of one of the big updates from previous titles. The game is no longer about "sneaking missions." You have a goal, and you're free to decide how to get there. You can use stealth to get to the goal with minimal resistance, or you can kill off all your enemies.

SWEET!

[Zenien]

That looks like Otacons little codec robot. I hear that it will follow Snake around acting as a codec type contact for Snake. Looks like it may do more???

I just realized it's stealling something from the guard, maybe his ammo? :D

EDIT: Apparently it says in the article that the MKII is stealling the guards ammunition.

Awesome. :o

[LexCorp]

I just realized it's stealling something from the guard, maybe his ammo? :D

EDIT: Apparently it says in the article that the MKII is stealling the guards ammunition.

Awesome. :o

Very nice touch. Put Otacon on the front line again - kind of

[Mentok]

I just realized it's stealling something from the guard, maybe his ammo? :D

EDIT: Apparently it says in the article that the MKII is stealling the guards ammunition.

Awesome. :o

I thought it was grabbing his ass :(

[Zenien]

No one said he couldn't be doing both. :o

[LexCorp]

No one said he couldn't be doing both. :o

Silly robo Otacon. How long do you think it will last? I mean a confrontation with a villain must destroy it eventually right?

[Mentok]

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8827/snakehidingyp8.jpg

[XwolverineX]

Oh, sick. I wouldn't even have noticed that.

[Mentok]

A bit easier to see...

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4703/2wu0.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1070/3sn7.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6848/5vd8.jpg

[XwolverineX]

Mentok, you're so buying a PS3. You seem to love DMC and MGS.

[Mentok]

No one said he couldn't be doing both. :o

A clean scan... You can see now that the guard is getting a large electric shock :up:

*Lost Pic... Will find and rehost*

[Mentok]

More clean scans...

*Lost Pics... Will find and rehost them*

[XwolverineX]

Seeing as you're ignoring me, THIS'LL BE MY LAST POST HERE.

[Mentok]

Mentok, you're so buying a PS3. You seem to love DMC and MGS.

Not for quite a while... my guess is I will get one over a year from now. Depends on when the prices drop really.

[Mentok]

Seeing as you're ignoring me, THIS'LL BE MY LAST POST HERE.

I cant answer you when I'm posting pictures :cmad: !

[XwolverineX]

Learn to multi-task!

[Mentok]

I know how to multipost... Is that ok? :(

[Avalanche]

I'm getting a lot of red x's Mentok.

The direct link doesn't work for me either.

[Mentok]

Yeah, the last few I posted died, let me rehost them :(

[LexCorp]

A bit easier to see...

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4703/2wu0.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1070/3sn7.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6848/5vd8.jpg

Wonderfull

[블라스]

I actually love the CQC in MGS3: Subsistence...so I expect MGS4's to blow me away.

[Boom]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6848/5vd8.jpg
Hunchback Snake.

[Mentok]

MGS4 TGS video 1...
http://rapidshare.de/files/33928643/39235400.asf.html

MGS TGS video 2...
http://rapidshare.de/files/33928716/39235401.asf.html

[Trigger]

MGS4 TGS video 1...
http://rapidshare.de/files/33928643/39235400.asf.html

MGS TGS video 2...
http://rapidshare.de/files/33928716/39235401.asf.html

Woot!!

[Mentok]

TGS Video 1 YOUTUBE Link...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PO6LccFj5E

TGS Video 02 YOUTUBE Link...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SodV-7n7HxU

[THWIP*]

TGS Video 1 YOUTUBE Link...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PO6LccFj5E

TGS Video 02 YOUTUBE Link...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SodV-7n7HxU


I'M GLAD TO SEE HIM HIDING/SNEAKING IN SOMETHING OTHER THAN A CARDBOARD BOX. :whatever:


GRAPHICALLY, THIS GAME LOOKS ON PAR WITH......IF NOT SLIGHTLY LESS IMPRESSIVE THAN....'SC: DA'. CERTAINLY NOWHERE NEAR WHAT THEY WERE CALLING "REAL-TIME, IN-ENGINE" AT 'E3'. :o

[Mentok]

Yesh, i need higher quality footage and screens to really tell but it does look like Splinter Cell has a slight advantage over them as far as in game graphics go.

Im really interested in some of the new moves Snake has though... They look pretty sweet.

[Boom]

I guess I'm a graphics whore, because I'm honestly not impressed.

Gameplay looks decent as hell though. The new crawl moves look sweet.

[Mentok]

Rolling around in the barrel was pretty funny :up:

I just hope you cant carry it around with you in your magic pocket like you did with the Cardboard Box :mad:

[THWIP*]

I guess I'm a graphics whore, because I'm honestly not impressed.

Gameplay looks decent as hell though. The new crawl moves look sweet.


YEAH, AT LEAST HE NO LONGER SPINS IN ONE SPOT, AND LOOKS SO STIFF, WHEN CRAWLING. THAT, AND THE STUPID "!" OVER THE ENEMY GUARDS' HEADS, WERE THINGS THAT ALWAYS ANNOYED ME ABOUT THIS SERIES.

WELL.......AND OF COURSE THE 70% CG CUTSCENE, 30% GAMEPLAY THING. :o

[THWIP*]

Rolling around in the barrel was pretty funny :up:

I just hope you cant carry it around with you in your magic pocket like you did with the Cardboard Box :mad:


I'M SURE 'SNAKE' WILL TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THE 'PS3'S "REAL-TIME" WEAPONS CHANGE, AND INVENTORY. ;)

[블라스]

I'M SURE 'SNAKE' WILL TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THE 'PS3'S "REAL-TIME" WEAPONS CHANGE, AND INVENTORY. ;)

LOL someone already made that joke :O

[Boom]

Seriously. The graphics have gotten progressively worse over the course of three trailers. What ever happened to Kojima saying that the graphics would AT LEAST look like the TGS05 trailer?

Here's hoping this is still the game in early development.

[THWIP*]

Seriously. The graphics have gotten progressively worse over the course of three trailers. What ever happened to Kojima saying that the graphics would AT LEAST look like the TGS05 trailer?

Here's hoping this is still the game in early development.


IT'S JUST TYPICAL "SMOKE AND MIRRORS"......NOTHING WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE. JUST AS WE'VE SEEN WITH 'RESISTENCE:FOM', NO AMOUNT OF "POLISH" WILL MAKE THIS GAME LOOK LIKE THE 'E3' FOOTAGE. PERIOD.
MAYBE BY THE END OF THE 'PS3' CYCLE THAT WILL BE POSSIBLE FOR GAMEPLAY, BUT NOT NOW.

[Avalanche]

I guess I'm a graphics whore, because I'm honestly not impressed.
I agree.

I think part of it is because the backgrounds are so bland/green. The areas that show a little bit of colour tend to look graphically a lot nicer.

Nice trailer, if full of the usual pretentious Metal Gear Solid nonsense slogans.

[Zenien]

It looks washed out because it's a cam recording.

Let's get some direct feed going. The game looks as good adn better when you compare it to the latest trailer and it's a late 2007 release, maybe slipping into early 2008.

Take a look at the second segment, this game is a lot better then Splinter Cell, technically, and visually, of course that's abitrary and depends on how much you like the rampant abuse of Normal maps over physical detail.

Looks great.

[THWIP*]

Wow THWIP needs to cut the bull****.

Let's get some direct feed going. The game looks as good as it did in the latest trailer and it's a late 2007 release, maybe slipping into early 2008.


LOL.....A 'SONY' DRONE, TELLING SOMEBODY ELSE TO "CUT THE BULLS**T". :wow: :whatever:

[Zenien]

Come up with something original for once.

Even looking at the guards there, they have a lot more detail to them then a guard in Splinter Cell, this game is a good mark above what their doing in SplinterCell.

[THWIP*]

Come up with something original for once.

Even looking at the guards there, they have a lot more detail to them then a guard in Splinter Cell, this game is a good mark above what their doing in SplinterCell.



I WILL, IF YOU WILL. :o


DENIAL IS NOT A RIVER.........

[Tapela]

Holy graphic whores batman. Does graphics really matter that much for you? Well I guess if you're going to buy a ps3 it should since it costs so much. Glad I'm just looking though, the game looks great to me.

[Zenien]

I'M SURE 'SNAKE' WILL TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THE 'PS3'S "REAL-TIME" WEAPONS CHANGE, AND INVENTORY. ;)

I'm sure Ninja Gaiden will.

Keep in mind we haven't seen the TGS trailer yet, those 2 clips are just teasers since the real thing is 6 minutes of bliss. :D

[Boom]

Plus the 40-minute presentation.

[Boom]

According to Famitsu Magazine, most of the animations in the trailer are placeholders.

What a relief.

[Zenien]

Well yeah when it's like a year + away... ;)

[Boom]

I say take their time with it. I'd much rather take a 2008 release than have it come out next year, if it means getting the best possible game.

[Mr. Credible]

don't worry, it's kojima... we'll get everything the ps3 can throw out. he's always pushing systems to their limits.

[Mentok]

All right, after watching the videos a fair few times...

1- Animations are not that great and the controls look like they are once again pretty stiff.

2- The in game is not (at the moment) even close to the cut scene quality. Thats no big deal though.

3- It dosent look any better than any current X360 game apart from the fact that its MGS so its already awesome.

4- The octocammo feature is pretty cool.

[The Trainman]

Direct feed.

http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/movie/mgs4_tgs2k6.asx

[Boom]

Direct feed.

http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/movie/mgs4_tgs2k6.asx
*sex*

[Mr. Credible]

it really does look pretty good... still not the best thing out there (yes, i can admit that, even being one of the biggest mgs/kojima fans out there)

but it's not coming out for a long, long while, and it's kojima, so...

and why the heck did snake look young again at the end!?

i think kojima's going to throw us a mean curveball.

[The Trainman]

I'm glad Harry Gregson-Williams is back.

[Boom]

..The.....The end......

I.....

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG :eek::eek::eek:!!!!

WTF KOJIMA?!?!?

[hey yo its sean]

I am perplexed in the most personal of ways. Bring it on.

[Boom]

Young Snake....


:wow:

[The Trainman]

Two different eras! Vulcan Raven is back?

[hey yo its sean]

Unfortunately, that part was spoiled for me. I can't imagine what it would've been like to have actually been surprised. :(

[The Trainman]

Who spoiled it to you?

[hey yo its sean]

Someone on an MGS board. I stumbled upon a thread that I though would have a link to the trailer, and BOOM - pic of the big reveal. Son of a b**ch.

[The Guardian]

KOJIMA IS GONNA KEEP US ON OUR TOES,:D MAN I'M DIEING TO PLAY THIS!:eek: :eek: :eek:

[The Trainman]

I accidentally read a few comments before watching the trailer. I was also ticked off. Spoiler whores are everywhere, can't get rid of them. Especially those who do it on purpose.

[The Guardian]

I LOVE THE CAMO SUIT, THAT WAS SWEET, ESPECIALY AT THE END!:D :up: