View Full Version : Shows that never reached their full potential
0neDisturbedSOB
05-02-2005, 03:23 PM
Wanted to start a thread dedicated to shows that you feel were cancelled before they reached their full potential. Since we've now seen history made with Family Guy being the first show to be cancelled and then renewed by the same network maybe there's the potential that other networks might take a second look at shows they cancelled prematurely.
If you could bring back shows that were cancelled before you think they got the chance to reall shine which ones would you pick? These are just a few of my personal choices...
X-Men Evolution - Had a TON of great stories left to tell and it seems like it was cancelled before all of the loose ends could be finished off. The show was great, the animation was solid, the voice acting was great and the stories were original yet still stuck to the source material.
MTV Spider-Man - Same type of deal. It felt like it wasn't meant to end...especially since the last episode showed Peter Parker throwing his Spider-Man costume away, I'm REALLY surprised they let it end like that, almost like now that he's given up being Spider-Man there's nothing left to do.
Masters of The Universe (new) - Was cut shorter than the original series back in the 80's. Again I feel like this one was cancelled before they could really get into some good stories. I read an article that said had this show continued it would've been about Hordak coming to take over Eternia which forces He-Man and the MOTU to become renegades in their own land....sounds like an awesome idea, and I'm bummed we really only got to see Hordak in one episode.
Those are just a few I could think of right away. I'm really bummed those shows were cancelled because I really feel like all of them had the potential to be great if given the chance.
3dman27
05-02-2005, 03:31 PM
[QUOTE=0neDisturbedSOB]
Masters of The Universe (new) - Was cut shorter than the original series back in the 80's. Again I feel like this one was cancelled before they could really get into some good stories. I read an article that said had this show continued it would've been about Hordak coming to take over Eternia which forces He-Man and the MOTU to become renegades in their own land....sounds like an awesome idea, and I'm bummed we really only got to see Hordak in one episode.
[QUOTE] i wish the had made more motu episodes or at least repeat the ones they have
0neDisturbedSOB
05-02-2005, 03:35 PM
There's a strong possibility that the new MOTU show will get an eventual DVD release. Check the front page at He-Man.org for the news.
Strange
05-02-2005, 05:08 PM
I miss the show "Now and Again", it was cheesey in some parts but it could have been a great show if they had some better writers. The main character and plot was cool.
Swordmaster
05-02-2005, 05:13 PM
Futurama. Bring it back Fox!
Pink Ranger
05-02-2005, 05:29 PM
I agree 100% with the new MOTU. Also:
Max Headroom
EZ Streets
Gideon's Crossing
X-Ray
05-02-2005, 05:40 PM
Brimstone ... all 122 escaped demons shuld've had a single episode surrounding their story
Darth Rockwell
05-02-2005, 08:50 PM
Highlander: The Raven
0neDisturbedSOB
05-03-2005, 12:56 AM
I'd also have to say that Thundercats still had some awesome stories to tell before it got canceled. There's a rumor that we'll see a season 1 DVD release sometime this year.
3dman27
05-03-2005, 03:42 AM
raven
martial law
GLfan
05-03-2005, 04:56 AM
I'd pick Birds Of Prey. If they would've done the costumes like the comic, I'm sure the series would have lasted longer especially if they used more Batman villains. Also, an appearance of Batman himself and Nightwing could've helped too.
Spider-man live action from the 70's. If there were spidey villains the show would've lasted longer.
The Flash
The Ropers They had the wrong supporting cast.
Tabitha spinoff Bewitched series. They should have had Adam a warlock with powers that would come and go, make him the center of goof ups with Tabitha bailing him out.
Carter
05-03-2005, 05:20 AM
The Handler
w/ Joe Pantliano
Darth Rockwell
05-03-2005, 12:05 PM
Martial Law rocked. I loved that show. I hope it gets a dvd treatment.
Brimstone ... all 122 escaped demons shuld've had a single episode surrounding their story
Not to mention episodes where he would have been thwarting Ashe's schemes, since she was set up to be Stone's major heavy(the Devil, played masterfully by John Glover, was merely a whisper in Zeke's ear).
Basically any show that was on Fox on a Friday can go into this list.
Brimstone, Fastlane, MANTIS, VR5, Wonderfalls, Firefly, Brisco County, John Doe, and on and on and on!!
3dman27
05-03-2005, 01:36 PM
brisco county jr.
hippie_hunter
05-03-2005, 04:34 PM
MTV Spider-Man - Same type of deal. It felt like it wasn't meant to end...especially since the last episode showed Peter Parker throwing his Spider-Man costume away, I'm REALLY surprised they let it end like that, almost like now that he's given up being Spider-Man there's nothing left to do.
I liked the show at first but then after watching it again, it started to get rather crappy IMO. However the last episode was freakin' awesome
Dorian Gray
05-03-2005, 04:40 PM
Futurama
MOTU: New Series
Brimstone
X-Men Evolution
Forever Knight
Martial Law
3dman27
05-03-2005, 04:51 PM
thundarr the barbarian
The Question
05-03-2005, 06:22 PM
xmen evoulution
avengers:the animated series:they didn't even finish the zodiac storyline. they still had room for count nefaria, thanos, hydra, the hulk, the beyonder, the red skull, zemo, the masters of evil, hank pym's psychological breakdown, scarlet witch's psychological problems, the continuation of the wonderman/scarlet witch/vision love triangle, quicksilver, the whole queen's vengance storyline, more cap, iron man, thor, the black panther, scott lang, apearences by sheild and nick fury, etc.
john doe:never even found out what that guy was
gregg the bunny:damn, that show was funny.
batman beyond:that show was good, but we saw, like, 3 original bat rouges! bring back ra's! bring back joker! have two face as an ageing psycho killer vigilante. have ridler as one of gotham's mob bosses. have selina show up as an older(but still pretty easy on the eyes) about town buisness woman, who does all sorts of charity stuff like orfanages and urban renewall.
futerama:bite my shiny metal ass, fox!
CTCurry99
05-03-2005, 07:10 PM
I always loved...
Fastlane
Viper
Threat Matrix
X-Ray
05-03-2005, 11:51 PM
xmen evoulution
avengers:the animated series:they didn't even finish the zodiac storyline. they still had room for count nefaria, thanos, hydra, the hulk, the beyonder, the red skull, zemo, the masters of evil, hank pym's psychological breakdown, scarlet witch's psychological problems, the continuation of the wonderman/scarlet witch/vision love triangle, quicksilver, the whole queen's vengance storyline, more cap, iron man, thor, the black panther, scott lang, apearences by sheild and nick fury, etc.
john doe:never even found out what that guy was
gregg the bunny:damn, that show was funny.
batman beyond:that show was good, but we saw, like, 3 original bat rouges! bring back ra's! bring back joker! have two face as an ageing psycho killer vigilante. have ridler as one of gotham's mob bosses. have selina show up as an older(but still pretty easy on the eyes) about town buisness woman, who does all sorts of charity stuff like orfanages and urban renewall.
futerama:bite my shiny metal ass, fox!
damn ! how'd i forget both futurama and batman beyond ... stupid me!
Prophecy Girl
05-04-2005, 01:08 PM
Tru Calling
"Viper"
See, I'd say Viper ended on a pretty strong note. Four seasons between the NBC version and the syndicated one, plus, they brought back Joe Astor, and addressed what would happen if his personality chip ever malfuctioned, which resorted in him becoming the criminal Michael Payton again. A bit of soul searching and Payton realized he'd rather be Joe Astor. To say nothing of the fact that they actually brought back the other cast members from the NBC incarnation(since they just picked up where that one left off with Joe Nipote returning as Franky Waters). There was only so much more they could do with the defender, besides making it fly, and that probably would have been a bit too hokey(the hovercraft mode was already pushing it, although actual vehicles of that nature do exist).
"Forever Knight"
I think it had a decent enough run. I think having it end on a downer was the only way to go.
[Faustinas]
05-04-2005, 02:09 PM
Witchblade..One word always came to mind when I watched an episode of this show: beautiful...it was just shot so well and the story was very compelling..so much mythos and history...they could have put their own spin on all sorts of histories and mythologies like Stargate has done.
Dread
05-04-2005, 03:12 PM
The Superman:TAS show, IMO, was canceled in it's prime and I often wonder what could have happened with it had it continued from, say, "Legacy" (when Superman fought off Darkseid's mind control, but now faced a world that hated him). It'd only ran for 3 seasons, and the last season didn't have many episodes, as Timm & Co. were more focused on Batman Beyond.
The 90's Fantastic Four cartoon is also constantly underrated and had gotten quite good in it's second season; improving GREATLY from their first in terms of plot, animation, and action.
X-Men Evolution still had enough potential for at least another season.
I own the complete MTV Spider-Man series, and while I didn't like that the show felt the need to CREATE their own lame enemies when Spidey has the best rogues gallery of any Marvel hero, the series did have it's charm. I especially liked how it was mature at times and allowed Spider-Man to actually FIGHT PEOPLE. As in actually punch/kick them out. And it did end on a note almost as dark as the "Conker's Bad Fury Day" game for N64.
kane9321
05-04-2005, 03:47 PM
Brimstone ... all 122 escaped demons shuld've had a single episode surrounding their story
YESSSSSSSSS.Somebody remembers my show..by the gods...They were promoting the hell outta this show...it was so sweet.Then poof its gone
bring back my "point pleasant" fox
Incrediblejeff
05-04-2005, 05:05 PM
Beast Wars :the show had a great story beautiful animations ,it could have really done alot.
VR Troopers:This show had alot of potential,but was written off as a power Rangers rip -off .
TheAlmightyFuzz
05-04-2005, 06:32 PM
']Witchblade..One word always came to mind when I watched an episode of this show: beautiful...it was just shot so well and the story was very compelling..so much mythos and history...they could have put their own spin on all sorts of histories and mythologies like Stargate has done.
I loved that show, there were lots of people that didn't even know it existed though.
TEDDY
05-04-2005, 06:41 PM
Greg The Bunny. It was hillarious. Like an adult version of the muppets. It focused not only on the puppets but also on the human aspect of the show. Also, it had a lot of in-jokes that poked fun at Seasame Street ("The Count?!? That sonova***** stole his whole bit from me!!! He's not even from Transylvania!!! He was born in Boston!!!") as well as mock prejudice in society("I think you are all just a bunch of SOCKS!!!").
The cast was a comedic dream team:
Seth Green (Family Guy, Robot Chicken, Austin Powers franchise)
Eugene Levy (American Pie franchise, the Christopher Guest mockumentaries)
Sarah Silverman (Mr. Show, SNL, Crank Yankers)
and I was most shocked to discover a few days ago that Junction Jack, the crazy/bizzare conducter on the show, was played by Bob Gunton, who has plyed many roles, including that of the cruel, bible-thumping Warden Norton:opps:.
Though the show only lasted 11 episodes (2 of which never aired), the 2-disc dvd is packed with extras, including commentaries, deleted scenes, making-of documentary, still-galeries, promotional footage(some good stuff despite their LACK of quality promotion), interactive menus as well as a ****-load more of extras and easter eggs!
So go out and buy it now!!! SO SAYS THE BEAR!!!
0neDisturbedSOB
05-08-2005, 01:46 AM
Been watching my MTV Spider-Man DVD recently and I'm more bummed the show got cancelled. Say what you want about the writing/cast...etc but the animation in that show was top notch. They NAILED Spider-Man's movements, and Neil Patrick Harris did an awesome job voicing Spidey....better than I expected.
The worst part is how the show ended. Peter Parker throwing away his costume...it was obvious that the show was not meant to end there but of course the "brains" at the network thought it was best...go figure.
I think this show deserves a second chance. There's so much untapped potential, especially with characters like Doc Ock, Black Cat, Sandman...etc.
3dman27
05-08-2005, 04:34 AM
super force
War Lord
05-08-2005, 04:37 AM
I miss the show "Now and Again", it was cheesey in some parts but it could have been a great show if they had some better writers. The main character and plot was cool.
It was an excellent show. I think the Fantasy Island remake wasn't given a fair hearing.
3dman27
05-08-2005, 04:40 AM
It was an excellent show. I think the Fantasy Island remake wasn't given a fair hearing.
i saw a couple of the remakes eps i prefer the original
Alexia Dark
05-08-2005, 09:56 AM
MTV Spider-Man: what everyone else said.
Birds of Prey: I liked this show, it just needed better stories.
Mutant X: I don't remember if got cancelled or was resolved
3dman27
05-08-2005, 01:44 PM
MTV
Mutant X: I don't remember if got cancelled or was resolved
i'm afraid not webmistress
in what ended up as mutant x's final episode the teams sanctuary and ship were destroyed by the dominion and the last scene had them running for their lives
the studio prducing the show for marvel decided to get out of tv production and let the 3rd season finale stand as originally written setting up a new dynamic for the season four that never happend :hyper: :hyper:
kamesan
05-08-2005, 08:09 PM
super force
I'm surprised that anyone even remembers that show.
kamesan
05-08-2005, 08:17 PM
Beast Wars :the show had a great story beautiful animations ,it could have really done alot.
Beast wars ended perfectly, but they killed a lot of strong characters w/ too much ease. They started up the storyline again w/ Beast Machine. It meant well, but the camaraderie w/ the maximals didn't stay consistent like that of Beast Wars. If anything, these shows could've been stretched out to @ least one extra season.
kamesan
05-08-2005, 08:23 PM
Been watching my MTV Spider-Man DVD recently and I'm more bummed the show got cancelled. Say what you want about the writing/cast...etc but the animation in that show was top notch. They NAILED Spider-Man's movements, and Neil Patrick Harris did an awesome job voicing Spidey....better than I expected.
The animation was top-notch, but they must've ran out of character profiles, cuz after 20 faces you would see the same guy, girl or college student in the background.
The worst part is how the show ended. Peter Parker throwing away his costume...it was obvious that the show was not meant to end there but of course the "brains" at the network thought it was best...go figure.
BTW, Thanx 4 spoiling the ending of that last episode. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon8.gif
U.S War Machine
05-08-2005, 08:35 PM
I want street sharks to come back on! that show rocked! and Biker mice!
amazingfantasy15
05-08-2005, 10:31 PM
X-Men Evolution was a great show that was just really starting to get going when it was cancelled. However, I do really think we needed some more pokemon or yu-gi-oh shows, they are just sooooo much more interesting.
MTV's Spider-man had potential, but MTV didn't support it, every other show on MTV is shown like 20 times during the week. I could never find Spider-man though.
kamesan
05-08-2005, 10:37 PM
Off-subject, Stations like MTV & VH-1 have a tendency of removing shows from their weekly rotation (that would otherwise be re-ran to death) for no apparent reason. Still, I like how they put "Indy" in the mix as the other woman instead of the predictable Gwen stacy.
GREEN =w= DAY
05-09-2005, 01:00 AM
Tru Calling
they cancelled it again?
3dman27
05-09-2005, 04:10 AM
jake2.0
Manic
05-09-2005, 05:26 AM
they cancelled it again?
FOX has an amazing habit of mis-treating their shows. They renewed it for a second season, and cancelled it while they were in the middle of filming new episodes. They managed to make a couple of new episodes before they got canned, so FOX just decided to air them. As far as I know, they never un-cancelled it. They just showed the remaining episodes.
Anyway, here my list of shows with potential that they never reached:
Birds of Prey
Firefly
Star Trek Enterprise
Mainframe's Spider-Man (I refuse to call it MTV's)
Cedric the Entertainer Presents...
Clerks: The Animated Series
The Critic (FOX cancelled it because they wouldn't make it more like The Simpsons)
Futurama
Eyes (apparently, ABC has lost all hope in this show)
screech_turbo
05-09-2005, 06:55 AM
silver surfer
they already had season 2 scripted when fox killed it. it also ended on a cliffhanger. seriously needs to be on dvd.
Lord Valumart
05-09-2005, 12:27 PM
CGI Spider-man, i want more DAMNIT!!! plus there could be much more than they did, it should be picked up by someone other than MTV and be contiued, or thee will be trouble!!!*shakes fists*
Futurama, so much more potential than the Simpsons, so much more
they need to bring back Spaced for a third series, Simon Pegg needs to be on TV ALOT MORE!!
and any others, such as, FF and X-men Evo.
WallCrawl
05-09-2005, 01:45 PM
Greg the Bunny: Like most have already said, it was an awesome show.
Ned's Nightmare: A great little saturday morning cartoon with a great color palette and atmosphere. Whatever happened to him in the day turned into a twisted, warped version he'd have to suffer through in his sleep.
MTV's Downtown: The show was hip, fresh and cool without being self aware and yelling "look at us, we're hip fresh and cool! Werd to your muthas!!!111" I can't believe I can't even find it online anywhere. :(
Off-subject, Stations like MTV & VH-1 have a tendency of removing shows from their weekly rotation (that would otherwise be re-ran to death) for no apparent reason. Still, I like how they put "Indy" in the mix as the other woman instead of the predictable Gwen stacy.
I loved the episode they had when MJ came see Peter one morning, and Indy's walking out of his bedroom while putting her blouse on! I was like, "DAMN, Spidey was getting ass!"
Darth Rockwell
05-11-2005, 05:56 PM
Firefly deff.
X-Ray
05-12-2005, 12:07 AM
old Snick show ... Space Cases ... only 1 freeakin season :mad:
and Invader Zim
0neDisturbedSOB
05-12-2005, 12:07 AM
I loved the episode they had when MJ came see Peter one morning, and Indy's walking out of his bedroom while putting her blouse on! I was like, "DAMN, Spidey was getting ass!"
I actually watched that episode last night...it was actually nice to see Peter have another love interest aside from MJ. I really think the MTV show was beyond the animated series in tearms of storyline. I liked the MTV version because it actually put the characters in a realistic setting....Peter cares for MJ but it doesn't mean he can't have an interest in someone else, or they can't have an interest in him. It was interesting to see the love triangle because it was so apparent MJ was jealous and that was a new aspect to see with those characters.
It really pisses me off that the show was just dropped after one season. It didn't even get a proper farewell episode and we were left with Peter throwing his costume away....LAME!
There is no reason for them to cancel this show. The animation was AMAZING, the stories were great and the voice acting was top notch...what was the downside??
Manic
05-12-2005, 01:27 AM
old Snick show ... Space Cases ... only 1 freeakin season :mad:
No, Space Cases went on for 2 seasons. They were just very short seasons, and ran closely together. The second season started on the same episode a dimensional rift threw Catalina into a parallel dimension, and her "imaginary friend" Suzie was revealed to not only be real, but took her place among the crew. Most of season 2 took place on a planet they were stranded on.
GothicPowerMix1
05-12-2005, 07:52 AM
Roswell
Dark Angel
Veritas The Quest
Mortal Kombat Conquest
X-Ray
05-12-2005, 02:03 PM
No, Space Cases went on for 2 seasons. They were just very short seasons, and ran closely together. The second season started on the same episode a dimensional rift threw Catalina into a parallel dimension, and her "imaginary friend" Suzie was revealed to not only be real, but took her place among the crew. Most of season 2 took place on a planet they were stranded on.
aw .... explains why IMDB.com has it listed as ending/canceled after 1 season ...
The Question
05-12-2005, 06:50 PM
old Snick show ... Space Cases ... only 1 freeakin season :mad:
and Invader Zim
invader zim had some of the best animated comedey i've ever seen. well, at least there are the indi comics the show's creator writes(sorry, they're not about zim)
Dread
05-12-2005, 07:05 PM
I actually watched that episode last night...it was actually nice to see Peter have another love interest aside from MJ. I really think the MTV show was beyond the animated series in tearms of storyline. I liked the MTV version because it actually put the characters in a realistic setting....Peter cares for MJ but it doesn't mean he can't have an interest in someone else, or they can't have an interest in him. It was interesting to see the love triangle because it was so apparent MJ was jealous and that was a new aspect to see with those characters.
It really pisses me off that the show was just dropped after one season. It didn't even get a proper farewell episode and we were left with Peter throwing his costume away....LAME!
There is no reason for them to cancel this show. The animation was AMAZING, the stories were great and the voice acting was top notch...what was the downside??
Are you aware of the amount of fan flaming that scene with Indy got online? I found nothing wrong with it, but apparently at the time, a lot of fans had issues with Peter either: 1). Engaging in pre-marital sex, or 2). Engaging in pre-marital sex with anyone who was not MJ, Gwen Stacy, or maybe Betty Brant.
I actually liked that the MTV show had some realistic tendancies, including triangles, complicated decisions about feelings, and even hints at, gasp, people in college having sex. Criminy, you'd think it was 1950. I don't get any and I didn't have a problem with it.
Neil Patrick Harris was indeed a great Spider-Man. Not sure whether I found him better than Rino Romano (who now voices Batman in THE BATMAN), but he's up there.
FYI, Black Cat actually WAS supposed to appear in the MTV Spider-Man show, instead of Talon. But MTV insisted on certain guest stars, and when Eve was cast, they redesigned and altered her character to fit Eve personally. They really did stifle the hell out of that show, much like Fox Kids, at the time, stifled the hell out of the 90's Spider-Man (little violence or "fighting", trapping people in dimensions instead of dying, etc).
I do wish more "real" rogues had appeared in that show. With a gallery as vast as Spider-Man's, there's little need to create new villians who aren't up to par. I mean, Shakita and Terra-Dax were hardly Harley Quinn's. However, MTV Spider-Man likely had THE COOLEST Kraven the Hunter...ever. Which was great because I am one of the few who actually likes Kraven the Hunter; least the original one. And I agree, the finale was about as depressing as one can get, but it did pin down that the life of Spider-Man is a tragic one. Plus, as an original character, Indy could have been easier to write off. But, it did provide an unpredictable jaw-dropper of a finale.
0neDisturbedSOB
05-12-2005, 08:22 PM
Yeah I don't know what people's deal was seeing Peter and Indy in that scene....again it's not like college kids don't have sex and with MJ always changing her mind what the hell was he supposed to do? a man has needs you know.
The MTV show also had better action than the 90's toon. People actually got punched, kicked and even beheaded (although it was shown off screen). I also liked that Spider-Man (and his costume) weren't immune to an ass beating or two during the show.
My favorite aspect of the show is undoubtedly the way they animated Spider-Man. That was the best movement I've ever seen from Spider-Man. In the premiere episode with Electro there is a scene where Spider-Man webs a lightpost, spins around it, and then dangles down in his classic "yo-yo" pose....that really impresed the hell out of me and that was only the first episode!
Great show, amazing animation and a great voice cast....I still see no reason why they cancelled the show yet other shows like "Winx Club" are in their second or third season.
Dread
05-12-2005, 08:49 PM
Yeah I don't know what people's deal was seeing Peter and Indy in that scene....again it's not like college kids don't have sex and with MJ always changing her mind what the hell was he supposed to do? a man has needs you know.
The MTV show also had better action than the 90's toon. People actually got punched, kicked and even beheaded (although it was shown off screen). I also liked that Spider-Man (and his costume) weren't immune to an ass beating or two during the show.
My favorite aspect of the show is undoubtedly the way they animated Spider-Man. That was the best movement I've ever seen from Spider-Man. In the premiere episode with Electro there is a scene where Spider-Man webs a lightpost, spins around it, and then dangles down in his classic "yo-yo" pose....that really impresed the hell out of me and that was only the first episode!
Great show, amazing animation and a great voice cast....I still see no reason why they cancelled the show yet other shows like "Winx Club" are in their second or third season.
Because of the Comics Code of the old days, Peter engaged in mostly "clean" behavior, and I think most fans see, say, a lack of him being intimate on panel as more to do with his character than to do with a code that, at least before the mid to late 80's and into the 90's, wouldn't have endorsed it in a comic. Peter's not a "love'em and leave'em" type, but it's not like he just met Indy at a party and never was gonna call her again. They were sort of dating. MJ had that "friend/not friend" confusion thing and Indy was more obvious. I actually found her more interesting, but maybe that's only because I've had a Peter/MJ dynamic for...my entire life.
I agree, the animation was good if you got used to the style. If done well, 3D animation can capture movements better than 2D animation. Not that I want traditional animation abandoned; just sometimes it can work. Spidey's swinging and spider-like "wall crawling" couldn't be captured well in 2D. And I agree, seeing him actually FIGHT was good. I still grumble "ow!" at that last punch he gave Turbo Jet.
As for "Winx Club", that's not even an American cartoon; like nearly everything on 4kids TV aside for TMNT, it's an import. They call it "Italian Anime", but isn't anime the term for Japanese cartoons? Wouldn't the more accurate term be "an Italian cartoon that borrows from anime"? Oh, well. The point is that it's just another dubbed import, which are cheaper to air than normal shows; you only need to get rights and dub them (and edit), versus actually having to animate them.
As much as I like anime, I've noticed a real decline in quality U.S. cartoons since networks became more dependant on it. We all look back at the 90's and all the shows we had, well, back then there were hardly any anime shows on TV, save for Poke'mon and the clones it spawned. That stuff really hit overkill post 2000. Anime is great stuff and should be used as inspiration to what animation can achieve, NOT an easy way out.
3dman27
05-13-2005, 04:28 AM
as for the term "italian anime"
maybe the use the word anime loosely
swifty
05-13-2005, 04:45 AM
nowhere man
Voyager
x-men animated series
0neDisturbedSOB
05-13-2005, 10:14 AM
I've been watching X-Men TAS everynight on Toon Disney and as much as I liked that show I'd have to say that it ran it's course. Towards the end it started to get stale and it basically turned into an animated comic book...which for me isn't always a good thing.
kamesan
05-15-2005, 06:16 PM
I loved the episode they had when MJ came see Peter one morning, and Indy's walking out of his bedroom while putting her blouse on! I was like, "DAMN, Spidey was getting ass!"
:p Yes, I was proud of Peter Parker that day!
Manic
05-15-2005, 06:27 PM
Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda
I know it lasted for 5 seasons before they ended the series this past weekend, but the show could've been so much more. A deep-space show about a man who wakes up 300 years in the future and has to re-build society is an excellent premise. The produces just carried it further and further from what it was intended to be, and it became a show about the last savior of the known universe.
0neDisturbedSOB
05-15-2005, 09:42 PM
I've been watching old videos of the new He-Man series and man I REALLY miss that show. I was a fan of the original He-Man series but I honestly think this surpassed it in every possible way. The animation was awesome and the stories were good (sometimes better than others). My favorite part was that He-Man kicked some SERIOUS ass during the show. In the second part of "The Council of Evil" He-Man takes on Skeletor and his warriors single handedly and wipes the floor with them...I remember watching that and thinking "holy s**t now THAT'S how He-Man should be!".
Damn I REALLY miss this show, especially since we never got to see the Horde.
Victor Von Doom
05-15-2005, 09:57 PM
The Cosby Mysteries
Lord Blackbolt
05-15-2005, 10:02 PM
brisco county jr.
That's damn right. Loved that show
dos_acoustic
05-16-2005, 04:54 AM
3 South !
Zilleraut #66
05-16-2005, 06:51 AM
The State - IMO the best MTV show ever.
Freaks and Geeks
Men Behaving Badly - Maybe a little to raunchy for the time.
Batman Beyond
The Office
kamesan
05-16-2005, 06:12 PM
I've been watching old videos of the new He-Man series and man I REALLY miss that show. I was a fan of the original He-Man series but I honestly think this surpassed it in every possible way. The animation was awesome and the stories were good (sometimes better than others). My favorite part was that He-Man kicked some SERIOUS ass during the show. In the second part of "The Council of Evil" He-Man takes on Skeletor and his warriors single handedly and wipes the floor with them...I remember watching that and thinking "holy s**t now THAT'S how He-Man should be!".
Damn I REALLY miss this show, especially since we never got to see the Horde.
Ha ha ha ha......
I remember He-man very well. That was the only toys I had as a kid & I had 95% of them (I never got Snake Mountain). Once upon a time the USA network was playing the old episodes. I outgrew those when I got back to the states & started watching G.I. JOE. That's a show that could've stayed on the air.
0neDisturbedSOB
05-17-2005, 12:49 AM
Never was a fan of GI JOE, I was always the one person out of my group of friends that actually disliked that show.
Did The Office get cancelled?
I think I can add the contender to this list....I LOVE this show but I don't think it's going to see a second season which is a shame because it's easily the best reality show on TV right now.
War Lord
05-17-2005, 01:02 AM
I've been watching old videos of the new He-Man series and man I REALLY miss that show. I was a fan of the original He-Man series but I honestly think this surpassed it in every possible way. The animation was awesome and the stories were good (sometimes better than others). My favorite part was that He-Man kicked some SERIOUS ass during the show. In the second part of "The Council of Evil" He-Man takes on Skeletor and his warriors single handedly and wipes the floor with them...I remember watching that and thinking "holy s**t now THAT'S how He-Man should be!".
Damn I REALLY miss this show, especially since we never got to see the Horde.
I found a website where the name of Teela's father was revealed. It was going to be Fisto.
3dman27
05-17-2005, 04:17 AM
Never was a fan of GI JOE, I was always the one person out of my group of friends that actually disliked that show.
Did The Office get cancelled?
I think I can add the contender to this list....I LOVE this show but I don't think it's going to see a second season which is a shame because it's easily the best reality show on TV right now.
if you mean the american version i heard onEnews live lat night that nbc has renewed it for next season
sorry about the mix up by "american version" i was referring to the office
0neDisturbedSOB
05-17-2005, 08:06 AM
if you mean the american version i heard onEnews live lat night that nbc has renewed it for next season
Are you 100% sure about this? because all the talk I've heard about it made it sound like it was NOT coming back for a second season.
If you're right this is GREAT news. I really like this show a lot, over the course of the show you grow to really like some of these fighters. When they fight I find myself standing up and shouting "hit him!".
I hope you're right.
WallCrawl
05-17-2005, 08:39 AM
[QUOTE=0neDisturbedSOB]Did The Office get cancelled?QUOTE]
Don't think it was cancelled, I think the first season was simply 6 episodes, like it's original counterpart. And it looks like it actually has been renewed by NBC, as 3dman27 said.
May 16, 2005
NBC has renewed The Office for 2nd Season
NBC have released their 2005-06 Fall Schedule, and have announced that The Office has been renewed for a 2nd Season. The show shall remain in its previous time-slot of Tuesday nights at 9:30pm. However, NBC have not yet announced The Office's Episode Order.
http://www.tvtome.com/Office_US/
3dman27
05-17-2005, 09:07 AM
[QUOTE=0neDisturbedSOB]Did The Office get cancelled?QUOTE]
Don't think it was cancelled, I think the first season was simply 6 episodes, like it's original counterpart. And it looks like it actually has been renewed by NBC, as 3dman27 said.
May 16, 2005
NBC has renewed The Office for 2nd Season
NBC have released their 2005-06 Fall Schedule, and have announced that The Office has been renewed for a 2nd Season. The show shall remain in its previous time-slot of Tuesday nights at 9:30pm. However, NBC have not yet announced The Office's Episode Order.
http://www.tvtome.com/Office_US/it was this show i meant not the contender
0neDisturbedSOB
05-17-2005, 10:23 AM
Oh man I thought you were talking about The Contender. The Office sort of lost its charm on me after a few episodes.
I hope NBC will renew The Contender, that's easily the best reality show on TV and probably one of the best TV shows on right now.
If anyone likes the show sign this petition http://www.petitiononline.com/wato/petition.html
Decypher
05-18-2005, 07:07 PM
Clone High........(not sure if it has already been mentioned but it ought to be lol)
only got to see maybe 3 or 4 episodes while my satellite was up, and never knew they aired it in Canada 'til it was too late :(
also I back up Futurama, miles above the Simpsons in every way possible, and dare I say it was better than Family guy?
WallCrawl
05-19-2005, 12:51 AM
Clone High........(not sure if it has already been mentioned but it ought to be lol)
only got to see maybe 3 or 4 episodes while my satellite was up, and never knew they aired it in Canada 'til it was too late :(
You can download the entire run if you'd like. it's on p2p's and torrent sites.
dos_acoustic
05-19-2005, 12:56 AM
Clone High........(not sure if it has already been mentioned but it ought to be lol)
only got to see maybe 3 or 4 episodes while my satellite was up, and never knew they aired it in Canada 'til it was too late :(
also I back up Futurama, miles above the Simpsons in every way possible, and dare I say it was better than Family guy?
I hated Clone High because it replaced 3 South for some damn reason! But i agree with you on Futurama being beter than Family Guy.....its beter than new Simpsons but not nearly as good as the older seasons of Simpsons
storyteller
05-21-2005, 09:35 PM
The Superman:TAS show, IMO, was canceled in it's prime and I often wonder what could have happened with it had it continued from, say, "Legacy" (when Superman fought off Darkseid's mind control, but now faced a world that hated him). It'd only ran for 3 seasons, and the last season didn't have many episodes, as Timm & Co. were more focused on Batman Beyond.
You know the show justice league/ justice league unlimited. Yeah thats is the continuation(along with batman tas). So..............................
War Lord
05-22-2005, 12:07 AM
Car 54, where are you?
They only gave this show one season and I'm pissed about its canellation.
3dman27
05-22-2005, 03:50 AM
Car 54, where are you?
They only gave this show one season and I'm pissed about its canellation.
this was a fifties show right?
War Lord
05-22-2005, 04:14 AM
this was a fifties show right?
Yes it was and they never gave it a fair chance.
Tangled Web
05-22-2005, 06:21 PM
Wonder Falls
Arested Development
SapphirePrima
05-22-2005, 07:14 PM
I thought Clone High was halarious. MTV needs another animated series.
Alexia Dark
05-22-2005, 07:24 PM
La femme Nikita. Although it was completed with 5 seasons, the 5th season just... without Michael and the romance element, it just became about Nikita's father breaking his promises. For a whole 8 episodes. It was quite boring until Michael came back. And they left us with the two of them parting ways :(.
It could have been better. 10-15 years from now, I want to make yet another re-make of the movie and start all over with a really satisfying, kick-ass movie. Who knows? Maybe some of the technology used in the show will actually be in use by that time.
Mr Sparkle
05-23-2005, 10:50 AM
The Ben Stiller show *****es!!!!
http://www.endeneu.com/cultclassics/benstillershow/episode1/credits5.jpg
Mr Sparkle
05-23-2005, 10:52 AM
Wonder Falls
Arested Development
wonder falls?
the only potential that didn't reach was the ability to remotely kill people with it's utter suckiness.
ROBOTRON
05-23-2005, 02:12 PM
MTV Spiderman (How dare they take this off the air)
Silver Surfer
Superman The animated series (Taken from us b4 just as it was getting great)
Batman Beyond (rawr! This was my fav show when it was on...grrrr, growl...I want it back!)
Manic
05-23-2005, 02:47 PM
Superman The animated series (Taken from us b4 just as it was getting great)
Batman Beyond (rawr! This was my fav show when it was on...grrrr, growl...I want it back!)
Blame the stupid 52 episode limit they place on cartoons, nowadays.
3dman27
05-23-2005, 02:52 PM
Blame the stupid 52 episode limit they place on cartoons, nowadays.
yeah they should allow for more episodes
walter_sullivan
05-23-2005, 03:10 PM
i agree with batman beyond and x-men evolution. BRING THEM BACK!!!!
Dr Doom
05-23-2005, 10:09 PM
Static Shock
I miss this show, especially since I didnt get to see the final episode titled, "Power Outage"
I've looked on p2p's but cant find it.
-Doom :doom:
walter_sullivan
05-23-2005, 10:37 PM
yeah i should have mentioned that
marvelisawesome
05-23-2005, 10:41 PM
sIGN THE contender petition.
walter_sullivan
05-23-2005, 10:44 PM
sIGN THE contender petition.
but ive never seen the show
marvelisawesome
05-23-2005, 10:46 PM
ITs awesome. Just sign, its coooolll. Its boxing.
ROBOTRON
05-23-2005, 10:48 PM
Static Shock
I miss this show, especially since I didnt get to see the final episode titled, "Power Outage"
I've looked on p2p's but cant find it.
-Doom :doom:
I like about 70% of Static episodes...It got really good toward the end. I need that Power Outage episode.
Dr Doom
05-23-2005, 10:57 PM
The Tick (both versions)
And whatever happened to the new Hulk cartoon they were developing. I know there's a new FF toon coming.
-Doom :doom:
deathshead2
05-23-2005, 11:21 PM
masters of the universe
the pretender such a great show with how he would help people he was real smart.
Beast wars
thehippie
05-23-2005, 11:56 PM
Futurama
Freaks and Geeks
Sports Night
Arested Development
Uh, didn't Fox renew Arrested Development like a week ago?
War Lord
05-24-2005, 09:17 AM
keen eddie
walter_sullivan
05-24-2005, 10:51 AM
beat the geeks
Rowen
05-24-2005, 04:13 PM
I'm glad that mtv spiderman got cancelled, it wasn't go anywhere. they need to bring back the ronin warriors, that anime show had so much potential. & it was at its peak , then they cancel it.
walter_sullivan
05-24-2005, 04:20 PM
speaking of anome that got cancelled i think the anime title im thinking of was named "canidate for the goddess" or something like that.....
y2jversion1
05-24-2005, 04:51 PM
John Doe & Tracker (*ing Adrian Paul)
Avalanche
05-24-2005, 07:44 PM
X-Men Evolution - Had a TON of great stories left to tell and it seems like it was cancelled before all of the loose ends could be finished off. The show was great, the animation was solid, the voice acting was great and the stories were original yet still stuck to the source material.
Agreed, there were so many places the series could have went. Such a shame it ended where it did, particularly since everyone had finally come into their powers. Could have went on for another couple of seasons and not have gotten old.
walter_sullivan
05-24-2005, 09:10 PM
yeah i really miss it....
marvelisawesome
05-24-2005, 09:12 PM
xmen evolution, batman beyond. Oh and i would cry if the contender is stopped atseason 1.
marvelisawesome
05-24-2005, 09:13 PM
xmen evolution, batman beyond. Oh and i would cry if the contender is stopped atseason 2
Dr Doom
05-24-2005, 10:00 PM
IMO, every anime and japanimation show should be cancelled.
-Doom :doom:
walter_sullivan
05-24-2005, 10:39 PM
IMO, every anime and japanimation show should be cancelled.
-Doom :doom::mad: :unishr: dont say that.
dos_acoustic
05-24-2005, 10:40 PM
xmen evolution, batman beyond. Oh and i would cry if the contender is stopped atseason 1.
Yeah it they stop the contender i will stop watching tv all together! They always want to get rid of anything good and manly
walter_sullivan
05-24-2005, 10:42 PM
Yeah it they stop the contender i will stop watching tv all together! They always want to get rid of anything good and manly
OR AS GEORGE CARLIN SAID " they found out i liked it so they stopped making it"
kamesan
05-26-2005, 08:00 PM
Get a Life w/ Chris Elliot.
IMO, every anime and japanimation show should be cancelled.
-Doom :doom:
Sorry 'Victor Vaughn', but that is blasphemy. I'm calling tha FF right now!
walter_sullivan
05-26-2005, 08:22 PM
Yes! Thank You! Down With Doom!
War Lord
05-27-2005, 04:03 AM
The Job.
A lot like Rescue Me, but better. IMO.
TheS4ndman
05-27-2005, 07:21 AM
actually one thing i did not like about the Mtv Spider-man was there was no Aunt may
3dman27
05-27-2005, 09:15 AM
gi joe
0neDisturbedSOB
05-27-2005, 09:25 AM
actually one thing i did not like about the Mtv Spider-man was there was no Aunt may
I think they planned to bring her in later on.
dos_acoustic
05-27-2005, 04:06 PM
actually one thing i did not like about the Mtv Spider-man was there was no Aunt may
the only thing i hated about it was the crappy villains and the crappy electro....I was hoping to see some classic stuff but oh well we are living in the " Ultimate " generation were everything has to be what some people like to call "realistic"...give me the corny 60's lingo and costumes please
ROBOTRON
05-27-2005, 04:42 PM
the only thing i hated about it was the crappy villains and the crappy electro....I was hoping to see some classic stuff but oh well we are living in the " Ultimate " generation were everything has to be what some people like to call "realistic"...give me the corny 60's lingo and costumes please
OMG...that is so true.
I love Electro's old costume, whats up with the new version? Although I enjoyed the show (for the most part) no way should they have changed him so drastically...also Electro was a mean MF...how dare they turn him into a love sick, nerdy fruitbomb.:spidey:
dos_acoustic
05-27-2005, 05:10 PM
OMG...that is so true.
I love Electro's old costume, whats up with the new version? Although I enjoyed the show (for the most part) no way should they have changed him so drastically...also Electro was a mean MF...how dare they turn him into a love sick, nerdy fruitbomb.:spidey:
yeah they killed electro....i was sad
walter_sullivan
05-27-2005, 05:48 PM
OMG...that is so true.
I love Electro's old costume, whats up with the new version? Although I enjoyed the show (for the most part) no way should they have changed him so drastically...also Electro was a mean MF...how dare they turn him into a love sick, nerdy fruitbomb.:spidey:
why do they have to screw up everything?
3dman27
05-28-2005, 04:08 AM
.I was hoping to see some classic stuff but oh well we are living in the " Ultimate " generation were everything has to be what some people like to call "realistic"...give me the corny 60's lingo and costumes please
AMEN
kamesan
05-29-2005, 02:08 PM
dos_acoustic, I'm in agreement like everyone else; I'm conservative when it comes to comics. But if I may play devils advocate for a moment:daredevil , There was nothing wrong w/ how they formed the electro character. I mean, I don't know the real electro's origin, but the "Max" version didn't do any real damage to his reputation....... IMO!
Dr Doom
05-29-2005, 04:00 PM
The Tick
kakashi
05-29-2005, 10:37 PM
American gothic
Beauty and the beast
The others
Bring 'em back alive ---i doubt very much that anyone still remember this show.It was a tv series that attempts to cash in on the Indiana Jones ( raiders of the lost ark) succes.
It was loosely based on the exploits of Frank Buck...a famous adventurer/ hunter in the 1930's.
Frank Buck was played by Bruce Boxleitener....fabulously i might add.
In my opinion...if you like the Indiana Jones movie, chances are you'll like this one also.Too bad the show only lasted for one season.
Vigilante1785
05-29-2005, 10:49 PM
Angel - Definitely deserved a sixth season and the ending although satisfying for the character it needs to be completed... stupid WB. Also a far superior show than its predecessor and BtVS was good too in my humble opinion.
Point Pleasant - Just as the show started to get really GOOD Fox pulled the plug.
Tru Calling - Why would they put that on Thursday's nights against Friends, Survivor and CSI?
Batman Beyond - I was hoping to find out more about the fate of the other characters besides the original Batman, the Tim Drake Robin and Batgirl. What about Nightwing? Also I was looking forward to the evolution of new original villians.
I miss all the Marvel cartoons even the MTV Spider-Man think I only saw like 3 episodes.
And I doubt anybody remembers this show it was on NBC for a few episodes it was called UC Undercover.
3dman27
05-30-2005, 03:57 AM
I miss all the Marvel cartoons even the MTV Spider-Man think I only saw like 3 episodes.
as do i
Rowen
05-30-2005, 08:17 AM
the only thing i hated about it was the crappy villains and the crappy electro....I was hoping to see some classic stuff but oh well we are living in the " Ultimate " generation were everything has to be what some people like to call "realistic"...give me the corny 60's lingo and costumes please
I also agree. im tired of these redisgns of the classic charcters we love & know. BY the time thier done redisigning thier not the charcterS we know. they just need to stop this & take it back to the original creations. STAN LEE & CO. BRING US BACK THE ORIGNAL SPIDEY & ROUGES PLEASE!!!!
ROBOTRON
05-30-2005, 08:44 AM
I miss all the Marvel cartoons even the MTV Spider-Man think I only saw like 3 episodes.
The highly worthwhile season DVD is available at stores...I think I bought mine at Target or somplace months ago. Lookie @ link below:
http://spiderman.ugo.com/tv/animation/mtv-spider-man/
JulianM.Fan
05-30-2005, 10:34 PM
Angel-definately could have lasted at least another season or two and this is why i despise the WB
Popular-Another great show it was a parody of teen dramas and Ryan Murphy is the best. Another show cancelled by the WB before it could flourish
Birds of Prey- hated the blonde but it was too good to cancel
Oh and lookie that it's all from The WB ugh
Ant-Man
05-30-2005, 11:51 PM
Angel-definately could have lasted at least another season or two and this is why i despise the WB
Why are so many people saying Angel. If I recall correctly it had one hell of a long run and had done quite well. They probably could of had more seasons but why drain it dry? May as well go on a high note. Angel is hardly an example of a show that didn't get the chance to reach it's full potential.
3dman27
05-31-2005, 03:41 AM
I also agree. im tired of these redisgns of the classic charcters we love & know. BY the time thier done redisigning thier not the charcterS we know. they just need to stop this & take it back to the original creations. STAN LEE & CO. BRING US BACK THE ORIGNAL SPIDEY & ROUGES PLEASE!!!!
YOU HEARD THE MAN
dos_acoustic
05-31-2005, 05:51 AM
I also agree. im tired of these redisgns of the classic charcters we love & know. BY the time thier done redisigning thier not the charcterS we know. they just need to stop this & take it back to the original creations. STAN LEE & CO. BRING US BACK THE ORIGNAL SPIDEY & ROUGES PLEASE!!!!
I am glad some of you guys agree....usually when i say something about how when need to keep the classics everyone is like " blah blah blah they are so corny " or " ***** ***** ***** Ultimates are so awesome "...so why change what has lasted for ages...stick with the classics....i actually had an idea for a series that i sent to Marvel Studios some of you guys might like...i never got a reply but oh well lol... http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173586
Star Trek: Enterprise was finally gaining some momentum with season four.
That season had some fantastic storylines/episodes, including:
- The Augments Trilogy -
Brent Spiner was fantastic as the creator of the augments and the ancestor of Noonien Soong. Great performance, and a great three episodes connecting back to both TOS and TNG.
- The Vulcan Trilogy -
People were complaining about how the vulcans of Enterprise seemed different from the vulcans of the other series. This "trilogy" helped adress that issue in a great way.
- The Romulan Trilogy -
Lets face it. The romulans are a part of the ST universe. But the problem is that at the time of "Enterprise" the romulans have not yet been seen by humans. This trilogy gives us romulans as the main villains in a great way without going against cannon. Loved it.
- The Klingon Two-parter -
In TOS the klingons looked different from the rest of the series (no ridges). While it was obviously a budget issue, these two episodes give us an explanation within the ST universe. Again, great stuff.
- The Mirror Universe Two-parter -
Twisted and dark. I loved this to death.
- Terra Prime -
The second part of a two-parter with an unfortunately poor first episode (Demons). This, and not the horrible "These Are the Voyages" should've been the final episode, and I will pretend that it is.
There is no doubt in my mind that had it continued into a season five it would've been even better. Manny Coto really gave the series a much-needed jolt of new energy.
Yes, I'm quite the Star Trek geek... :)
ROBOTRON
05-31-2005, 10:32 PM
I was hoping they'd get to the point where "NOMAD" was launched in the series.
walter_sullivan
05-31-2005, 10:49 PM
MTV's FEAR
Dr Doom
05-31-2005, 10:52 PM
Life on a Stick
Titus
Andy Richter's Show
Method and Red
All About the Andersons
Married to the Kelly's
Whoopi
Wanda At Large
Tarzan
Coupling
The Mullets
TEDDY
06-02-2005, 05:51 PM
THE WAR NEXT DOOR. It was a comedy/action show. The concept was pretty interesting. A former secret agent(think "American James Bond") officialy retires to spend time with his family. His archnemesis, an evil criminal mastermind wanted world-wide(think "American Gold Finger"), decides to move in next door to him: partly to retire in peace, partly to get revenge on his former foe. It's the equivolent of SPY vs. SPY as next door neighbors. Each episode, 1 would die by cartoon/spy violence. By next episode, everyone was back, virtually unharmed.
kamesan
06-03-2005, 05:41 PM
MTV's Lyricist lounge show.
Rowen
06-04-2005, 08:08 AM
I am glad some of you guys agree....usually when i say something about how when need to keep the classics everyone is like " blah blah blah they are so corny " or " ***** ***** ***** Ultimates are so awesome "...so why change what has lasted for ages...stick with the classics....i actually had an idea for a series that i sent to Marvel Studios some of you guys might like...i never got a reply but oh well lol... http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173586
that sucks that you didn't get a reply form marvel studios, you think stan lee & co. would listen to us fans but it shows that he doesn't witch is sad. but with all this redesignin & changing charcters does need to stop.
i think they took it far when i saw what they did to bugs bunny & co. you probaly have already saw it or already have heard of it . but they chnage 6 loony tunes charcters into a japnese anime.
im sorry but you do not change bugs bunny, thier is nothing wrong with this character, you don't see disney turning mickey mouse & friedns all into japenese anime looking characters. again this redisngning & rechanging charcers does need to stop, cause its going nowhere.
The Question
06-04-2005, 09:25 AM
i have no problem with cangeing a costume somewhat when a show goes on tv, but sometimes they go overboard.
terry78
06-04-2005, 01:01 PM
It appears that Megas XLR has been cancelled also, which I despise because this show I would watch religiously. They got through two seasons, but I think they could've expanded more on the universe.
Dr Doom
06-04-2005, 04:06 PM
Aw man, I loved Megas
walter_sullivan
06-04-2005, 06:58 PM
It appears that Megas XLR has been cancelled also, which I despise because this show I would watch religiously. They got through two seasons, but I think they could've expanded more on the universe.
its times like these that i think " if i had watched it more than just from time to time would it still be on?"
Manic
06-04-2005, 07:10 PM
its times like these that i think " if i had watched it more than just from time to time would it still be on?"
Only if you have a Nielsen box.
walter_sullivan
06-04-2005, 07:38 PM
Only if you have a Nielsen box.
whats that?
deathshead2
06-04-2005, 07:41 PM
megas xlr cancelled NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
walter_sullivan
06-04-2005, 07:49 PM
yes. we all feel the pain.
0neDisturbedSOB
06-04-2005, 09:56 PM
Never got into that show.
Gamma Ray
06-04-2005, 09:57 PM
Oliver Beene. Could've been the next Wonder Years.
0neDisturbedSOB
06-05-2005, 02:25 AM
No way. I thought it was funny, but the thing that did it in was that it attempted to be like Wonder Years. When a show like that comes on it's automatically going to be compared to Wonder Years, only this was a comedy and "WY" was more of a serious, heartfelt show.
Archangel
06-05-2005, 02:42 AM
Clone High, in my opinion, one of the funniest shows i've ever seen. I need it on DVD dammit.
Firefly, **** you Fox. **** you.
Titus, Andy Richter Controls the Universe
Manic
06-05-2005, 04:14 AM
Oliver Beene. Could've been the next Wonder Years.
I agree with that SOB. Oliver Beene was pretty much trying to be Wonder Years with today's overused "dysfunctional family trash" formula. So, you know, it was Married With Children in the 60s.
Yeah, it was trying way too hard.
Electrix
06-05-2005, 04:55 AM
Futurama - Kept in the Simpsons shadow
X-men Evolution
dos_acoustic
06-05-2005, 05:16 AM
Clone High, in my opinion, one of the funniest shows i've ever seen. I need it on DVD dammit.
Firefly, **** you Fox. **** you.
Titus, Andy Richter Controls the Universe
Whats with all the Clone High lovers...I hated that show and it replaced a much greater show 3 South...did anyone even see 3 South...one of the funniest things i have ever seen was on that show...the scene starts with 3 guys sitting at a table laughing and one of the guys say " and thats how my mom died ".....now thats comedy
DrMylesOBoogie
06-05-2005, 08:09 AM
brisco county jr.I concur.
Manic
06-05-2005, 01:53 PM
Whats with all the Clone High lovers...I hated that show and it replaced a much greater show 3 South...did anyone even see 3 South...one of the funniest things i have ever seen was on that show...the scene starts with 3 guys sitting at a table laughing and one of the guys say " and thats how my mom died ".....now thats comedy
Conversely, I couldn't stand 3 South, but I thought Clone High was hilarious. Mohondas Ghandi alone carried that show.
UnderGrads was a much better college comedy than 3 South. The art and animation was better, and it appealed to my overall geeky sense of humor.
Does anyone remember Spy Groove? MTV hasn't been able to keep a good cartoon on the air since Daria, it seems.
terry78
06-05-2005, 01:57 PM
Spy Groove was hilarious, man. I forgot all about that show.
storyteller
06-05-2005, 03:00 PM
Futurama - Kept in the Simpsons shadow
X-men Evolution
No futurama was ran by idiots who only know how to show reruns of shows no one watches.
ROBOTRON
06-05-2005, 08:45 PM
megas xlr cancelled NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmmmm.....I never cared for that show. Too bad, though.:marv:
kane9321
06-07-2005, 11:29 AM
they cancelled megas?....and they put crap on like zatch bell
3dman27
06-07-2005, 01:07 PM
yeah dump the anime give us american superhero cartoons
Manic
06-07-2005, 01:35 PM
yeah dump the anime give us american superhero cartoons
Speaking as someone who likes both Japanese anime and American cartoons, I just want to say...
MEGAS was taken before its time, and Zatch Bell is a piece of crap.
Kmack
06-07-2005, 07:35 PM
Popular:p
Mephisto
06-07-2005, 09:12 PM
Twin Peaks
ROBOTRON
06-07-2005, 09:33 PM
yeah dump the anime give us american superhero cartoons
Thank you, well put.:marv:
dos_acoustic
06-07-2005, 09:54 PM
yeah dump the anime give us american superhero cartoons
I hate most american cartoons these days...they all seem to like to use computer animation too much...now if you bring back some classic hand drawn animation from the 80's then i will agree.
3dman27
06-08-2005, 04:28 AM
I hate most american cartoons these days...they all seem to like to use computer animation too much...now if you bring back some classic hand drawn animation from the 80's then i will agree.
thats the kind of american superhero cartoons i'm talking about :ff: :ff: :thing: :thing:
chamber-music
06-08-2005, 08:57 AM
John Doe
chamber-music
06-08-2005, 09:02 AM
Also The Flash Tv show. That was cool.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Keen Eddie.
That show was great. Action, drama, and whole lot of comedy.
kane9321
06-08-2005, 09:31 AM
the visitor
brimstone..damn fox
U.S War Machine
06-08-2005, 09:33 AM
The Mask Cartoon.
deathshead2
06-08-2005, 09:39 AM
From my years I have learned that good shows are replaced by what is cheaper such as megas xlr cartoonnetwork will have to pay a group of people to come up with ideas ,draw,write,promote,voice over, and other things needed for tv shows, or go with the easy way of buying something from japan and just doing a voice over and rewrite a dumb plot and their you go. Soon all shows will be cancelled on CN and replaced by anime for that is the soon fate of cartoons.
ROBOTRON
06-08-2005, 12:21 PM
Men in Black cartoon...70% of those episodes were excellent.:marv:
WallCrawl
06-08-2005, 12:42 PM
Men in Black cartoon...70% of those episodes were excellent.:marv:
That was a good cartoon, with a slick intro.
I kind of miss Big Guy and Rusty. That could've been a great show.
Manic
06-08-2005, 02:12 PM
From my years I have learned that good shows are replaced by what is cheaper such as megas xlr cartoonnetwork will have to pay a group of people to come up with ideas ,draw,write,promote,voice over, and other things needed for tv shows, or go with the easy way of buying something from japan and just doing a voice over and rewrite a dumb plot and their you go. Soon all shows will be cancelled on CN and replaced by anime for that is the soon fate of cartoons.
You're overreacting. If that was the case, Cartoon Network wouldn't have Atomic Betty or Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, and Cartoon-Cartoon Fridays would be replaced with Adult Swim Action. They even have a line-up of cartoons currently in production. American animation isn't simply going to keel over, and all companies will start purchasing dubs. Better/smoother animation quality is what has always separated American from Japanese animation.
0neDisturbedSOB
06-08-2005, 02:54 PM
I would love to see CN resurrect shows like He-Man (new one), X-Men Evolution and the new Spider-Man show that was on MTV. All of those shows were quality shows with some good action and pretty good writing....for some reason they were cancelled before they really got a chance to shine.
Rowen
06-08-2005, 04:18 PM
You're overreacting. If that was the case, Cartoon Network wouldn't have Atomic Betty or Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, and Cartoon-Cartoon Fridays would be replaced with Adult Swim Action. They even have a line-up of cartoons currently in production. American animation isn't simply going to keel over, and all companies will start purchasing dubs. Better/smoother animation quality is what has always separated American from Japanese animation.
Deathshed 2 is not overreacting his absouluty right. cartoon network may have your basic cartoons like you stated manic. but end of a good quality super heroe show is dieing out fast. thier are not many good super hero shows on air. the only good ones now are the new tmnt, jlu, & tt's,well im starting to turn my head away from tt's since how the prophecy was portrayed.
spawn the ainakted series is coming back. but all the crap they have on tv now, all those other anime cartoons with thier stupidf sublopts is garbage & dosen't follow up to a super hero cartoon.
MSUdawgs163
06-08-2005, 04:18 PM
Ever since TBS started airing ED on weekdays I would watch it after classes and I loved it. I know its not a superhero show but I think it coulda had a few more seasons.
3dman27
06-08-2005, 04:23 PM
ed?
MSUdawgs163
06-08-2005, 04:27 PM
ed?
Are you asking what it is or questioning my taste?
3dman27
06-08-2005, 04:29 PM
asking what it is
Manic
06-08-2005, 04:31 PM
Marvel dropped all of their superhero cartoons during the big bankrupcy. X-Men: Evolution ended because it reached its 52 episode limit (which was all it was contracted for). As you said, DC still has their superhero shows (JLU, TT, and even The F'ing Batman).
So where are the original action cartoons? There's Danny Phantom, Avatar, Codename: Kids Next Door, Juniper Lee, a possible upcoming Fantastic Four series, the upcoming Immortal Grand Prix (which will be made by both Cartoon Network and an anime company), and Duck Dodgers. Yes, I'm aware many of those are action-comedies, but they're still action shows on some level.
American TV networks may be picking up more action shows from Japan, but we still dominate animated comedies.
MSUdawgs163
06-08-2005, 04:31 PM
It was a show on NBC. Ed moves home to Stuckeyville from NYC because he caught his wife cheating on him and lost his job on the same day. He then opens up a law practice inside Stuckeybowl, the bowling alley he buys. Throughout the show he pursues his high school crush until they finally get married.
3dman27
06-08-2005, 04:33 PM
oh THAT showthanks for the explaination
zanos
06-08-2005, 04:55 PM
If you're talking about cartoons I'd have to say The Zeta Project, Superman TAS and Batman Beyond. For tv shows I think I'd have to go with Firefly, Wonderfalls, Covington Cross and Andy Richter
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Keen Eddie.
That show was great. Action, drama, and whole lot of comedy.
I completely forgot Keen Eddie. Great show and Sienna Miller was like the hottest thing ever on that show.
3dman27
06-08-2005, 04:56 PM
raven
MSUdawgs163
06-08-2005, 11:45 PM
Raven? What is that?
War Lord
06-09-2005, 12:33 AM
Gunsmoke. It needed 20 more years.
3dman27
06-09-2005, 03:50 AM
Raven? What is that?a martial arts adventure series
jonathan raven was orphaned as a boy in japan when his parents were murdered by the black dragon society after he studied ninjutsu for years he infiltrated the society
after meeting the woman who'd eventually bear his son hitori they were separated and hitori was sent to live in hawaiii the series which dealt with ravens adventures while searching for his son :spidey:
Be_Buddy
06-09-2005, 09:07 AM
big guy and rusty, what a great show. the action was graet and the plots were great. and it was created by frank miller
ROBOTRON
06-09-2005, 10:03 AM
Remeber that new Jonny Quest from a few years ago? That wasn't bad...they could've kept that going and developed it.
I'm suffering from anime overload. Even though I like one or 2 of them, I'm tired of the genre. Give me something else, isn't there someone out there with some creativity besides Mike Judge and Genndy Tarkowski (or whatever that guys name is is from cartoon network). I'd like to see some more Marvel, DC or even Image comic heroes out there...anything non-anime...I'm sick of anime.
Vigilante1785
06-09-2005, 01:52 PM
Never was big into anime... never... need more American shows.
Rowen
06-09-2005, 06:14 PM
Marvel dropped all of their superhero cartoons during the big bankrupcy. X-Men: Evolution ended because it reached its 52 episode limit (which was all it was contracted for). As you said, DC still has their superhero shows (JLU, TT, and even The F'ing Batman).
So where are the original action cartoons? There's Danny Phantom, Avatar, Codename: Kids Next Door, Juniper Lee, a possible upcoming Fantastic Four series, the upcoming Immortal Grand Prix (which will be made by both Cartoon Network and an anime company), and Duck Dodgers. Yes, I'm aware many of those are action-comedies, but they're still action shows on some level.
American TV networks may be picking up more action shows from Japan, but we still dominate animated comedies.
sorry to burst yuor bubble but those are not action cartoons, they are regular plain ordinary cartoons. the only action one you stated was, the new fantastic four series thats coming up.
Kitsune
12-02-2006, 11:53 AM
I remember liking an obscure show called Pheonix about human looking alien on Earth who had solar powered telekinesis, he was looking for his wife or something. After I saw one or two eppisodes it disapeared.
Brisco County Jr was good, better than Legand which had a similar plot.
I wish Millenium had lasted longer.
Dr. Fate
12-02-2006, 10:49 PM
Masters of The Universe (new) - Was cut shorter than the original series back in the 80's. Again I feel like this one was cancelled before they could really get into some good stories. I read an article that said had this show continued it would've been about Hordak coming to take over Eternia which forces He-Man and the MOTU to become renegades in their own land....sounds like an awesome idea, and I'm bummed we really only got to see Hordak in one episode.
The short life span of the this particular new series was a crime against humanity. And I blame Cartoon Network for dropping the ball here.
Warhammer
12-02-2006, 11:02 PM
- Men In Black.
- Fastlane.
- The Rich List.
Mr Sparkle
12-03-2006, 03:41 AM
American Gothic.
"someone's at the door"
Sloth7d
12-03-2006, 03:46 AM
Dark Angel
MTV-Spiderman
Blade
Rockos modern life
Gantz(they should have continued with the manga)
Futurama
(meh I could go on a while)
Warhammer
12-03-2006, 04:39 PM
Dark Angel
MTV-Spiderman
Blade
Rockos modern life
Gantz(they should have continued with the manga)
Futurama
(meh I could go on a while)
YES!
I loved the show, and it was something to watch on Thursday nights.
Damn. :cmad: :cmad: :cmad:
YES!
I loved the show, and it was something to watch on Thursday nights.
Damn. :cmad: :cmad: :cmad:
Blade came on Wednesday nights.But that's neither here nor there now.
Yeah, I was the prime advocate against ints creation, as I didn't think it would be gory enough, and that Sticky Fingaz couldn't possibly be any good as Blade. But while he was nothing compared to Snipes, he was good in the role given the context. And the action improved over the course of the series. The stories were well-developed, and every now and then, you saw a chick's nekkid booty! Bad move on Spike's part. What have they got going for them now?
Spidey-Bat
12-03-2006, 05:33 PM
ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT :(
Sawyer
12-03-2006, 05:53 PM
ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT :(
I miss it. (imagine Tobias in his cutoffs crying in a shower, and that is how I feel.)
Warhammer
12-03-2006, 05:55 PM
Blade came on Wednesday nights.But that's neither here nor there now.
Yeah, I was the prime advocate against ints creation, as I didn't think it would be gory enough, and that Sticky Fingaz couldn't possibly be any good as Blade. But while he was nothing compared to Snipes, he was good in the role given the context. And the action improved over the course of the series. The stories were well-developed, and every now and then, you saw a chick's nekkid booty! Bad move on Spike's part. What have they got going for them now?
Whoops, typo.
Btw, they still have MXC. :down
Spidey-Bat
12-03-2006, 05:59 PM
I miss it. (imagine Tobias in his cutoffs crying in a shower, and that is how I feel.)
We may see Tobias again on Scrubs.
Caliber
12-04-2006, 02:15 AM
ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT :(
Its sad that it got cancelled but fox tends to cancel every good show they have.
Manic
12-04-2006, 02:48 AM
You know, it's funny. Arrested Development was canceled, but it was one of the shows Fox actually tried to push forward. Unlike Futurama (which was canned because it got pre-empted by sporting events) or Firefly (I never once saw a promo that said what day or time that came on. It was always "this week on Fox"), Arrested Development was given a Simpsons lead-in, promoted like hell, and was given multiple chances to gain viewers. It got Fox an Emmy, so they tried their damnedest to keep it on the air. If Fox was only looking at the ratings, they would've given Arrested Development the boot after the first season. It got 3 seasons because Fox kept throwing fans a bone. They wanted it to reach its potential.
But it never gathered a significant audience-- at least not as far as the outdated Nielsen ratings system could tell.
Probably would've been a dynamo on cable, though.
ggctuk
12-04-2006, 06:48 AM
Sailor Moon, only in the UK, FOX Kids never showed S or SuperS, but there's no hope - before this contract could be renewed, Toei revoked it, so there's no chance.
November Rain
12-04-2006, 07:05 AM
Dragonball GT missed the ball on plenty of potential feasible sagas...and stories
Visionaries only lasted 13 eps, it had WAY more potential...
mtv spidey
evolution could have really gone somewhere, all they had to do was up the voilence to the ultimate avengers level and it could have been seriously really good stuff.
beyond was really good in its first series and part of its second but then it started to slack and i feel that if it carried on, it would have gotten worse. I like how they left it. The only thing i would have done was to make terry's lil brother batman's son instead of terry. so there was a definite future there, Heck even have him as a Robin beyond. that would have made me orgasm everywhere but it's alright as it is.
Ring raiders i also felt could have gone somewhere.
Eklypze
12-04-2006, 08:18 AM
Touching Evil
I SEE SPIDEY
12-04-2006, 01:25 PM
']Witchblade..One word always came to mind when I watched an episode of this show: beautiful...it was just shot so well and the story was very compelling..so much mythos and history...they could have put their own spin on all sorts of histories and mythologies like Stargate has done.
I loved that show and miss it dearly.:csad:
Sawyer
03-30-2011, 11:58 PM
I'm bumping the **** out of this thread.
Jack and Bobby. Watched it on youtube recently. Forgot how good it was. Such a well-written and acted show, The WB should've been ashamed of themselves for letting it go and keeping utter **** like 7th Heaven on.
Eklypze
03-31-2011, 12:13 AM
HAHA! Wow Sawyer! You bump a thread that has me *****ing about Touching Evil from over 4 years age hahaha. I still think Touching Evil was such a better fit for Donovan than Burn Notice, **** Burn Notice! Touching Evil was soooo good
Eklypze
03-31-2011, 12:14 AM
ago*
AntMan
03-31-2011, 05:10 AM
Kyle XY.
lorenzovanmatte
03-31-2011, 05:50 AM
Space;A&B, Dark Skies, Tru Calling, Dollhouse, Firefly, you name it!
Conundrum
03-31-2011, 07:56 AM
I really enjoyed 'Journeyman'. It was building up a really good story arc and creating a mythology around past time travellers.
Shame it was cancelled. Bad timing with the writers' strike, I think.
Metamorpho1977
03-31-2011, 09:19 AM
Reaper was great.
Doc Vape
03-31-2011, 01:34 PM
firefly nuff said
TheComicbookKid
03-31-2011, 07:14 PM
I really enjoyed 'Journeyman'. It was building up a really good story arc and creating a mythology around past time travellers.
Shame it was cancelled. Bad timing with the writers' strike, I think.
Don't remind me! Freakin loved that show.
I would say the obvious Firefly but i'll have to go with Everwood or Birds Of Prey.
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