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TheVileOne
05-07-2006, 03:14 PM
It is a very sad fact, too.
Nevertheless, summer 2006 (with POTC 2, SR, X3, Da Vinci, Over the Hedge, Cars, etc.) will beatdown summer 2005 (Revenge of the Sith and co). However, for the year overall, 2006 should be worried. 2005 ended REALLY well with Goblet of Fire, King Kong, and Narnia.
We'll see. Even King Kong disappointed a lot of people and underperformed.
If MI:3 disappoints, I'd say all bets are off.
RedIsNotBlue
05-07-2006, 03:15 PM
The Inside Man did very well.
MI:3 isn't exactly what I'd call a serious "adult" movie either. They want the kids to be seeing it as well.
Cool. I am waiting for that on dvd.
And MI3 was mostly a serious movie. I don't feel like talking about box office numbers anymore I just got off work. :)
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 03:16 PM
We'll see. Even King Kong disappointed a lot of people and underperformed.
That was a shocker. People had Titanic expectations (which I think was stupid to begin with). Narnia beat it down.
TheVileOne
05-07-2006, 03:18 PM
That was a shocker. People had Titanic expectations (which I think was stupid to begin with). Narnia beat it down.
It really wasn't considering who was working on it and the hype it was getting.
Thing is, Titanic being as successful as it was, was a surprise in itself. NO ONE saw it coming. A lot of people thought it would bomb and were scared ****less.
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 04:01 PM
It really wasn't considering who was working on it and the hype it was getting.
Thing is, Titanic being as successful as it was, was a surprise in itself. NO ONE saw it coming. A lot of people thought it would bomb and were scared ****less.
Especially with the price tag for Titantic (and that was 10 years ago :eek:)
But to think that it could do 600 mill in the states (or, I guess over a billion overseas) was kind of strange thinking. KK doesn't have the huge, relevant following that LOTR has....right? So, I still think that was crazy. I had KK doing over $300 mill, with the spectacle of it alone (plus the Peter Jackson factor), but Narnia really hurt it (and possibly the overkill).
RedIsNotBlue
05-07-2006, 04:05 PM
Especially with the price tag for Titantic (and that was 10 years ago :eek:)
But to think that it could do 600 mill in the states (or, I guess over a billion overseas) was kind of strange thinking. KK doesn't have the huge, relevant following that LOTR has....right? So, I still think that was crazy. I had KK doing over $300 mill, with the spectacle of it alone (plus the Peter Jackson factor), but Narnia really hurt it (and possibly the overkill).
Exactly which is why the box office is still pretty much in a slump. These movies with huge expectations are just turning out to be moderate successes.
Threshold
05-07-2006, 04:07 PM
Well, if it made 70mill overseas this past weekend then I think it's a sign that the film will likely do its big money overseas and just will be a mediocre "hit" here in the States.
I wonder if Cruise is as much of a tabloid staple in other countries as he is here, that might be the big answer to why the movie is seemingly underperforming here in the states.
I wonder if Cruise is as much of a tabloid staple in other countries as he is here, that might be the big answer to why the movie is seemingly underperforming here in the states.
everyone hates him here in the UK too
TheVileOne
05-07-2006, 04:11 PM
Especially with the price tag for Titantic (and that was 10 years ago :eek:)
But to think that it could do 600 mill in the states (or, I guess over a billion overseas) was kind of strange thinking. KK doesn't have the huge, relevant following that LOTR has....right? So, I still think that was crazy. I had KK doing over $300 mill, with the spectacle of it alone (plus the Peter Jackson factor), but Narnia really hurt it (and possibly the overkill).
Narnia had nothing to do with it. People were just generally disappointed with Kong (I wasn't, note).
Narnia was another one. The media were all taking shots at it and being smug bastards because the religious groups gave it their approval. The movie ended up being pretty good and made more money in the US than BOTH King Kong AND Harry Potter 4.
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 04:11 PM
Exactly which is why the box office is still pretty much in a slump. These movies with huge expectations are just turning out to be moderate successes.
But then you look at Goblet of Fire bringing new life to the Potter series and you think, "Well, what's the BO deal?"
But I know what you're saying, cause the last major hit (going back to last year) was a film people didn't see as being a major hit: Narnia.
RedIsNotBlue
05-07-2006, 04:12 PM
You guys see the Tom Cruise BET clip? :)
http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1687784/
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 04:13 PM
Narnia had nothing to do with it. People were just generally disappointed with Kong (I wasn't, note).
I highly disagree. I think Narnia had a lot to do with it. Instead of Kong owning the Christmas holiday weeks all to itself, it had to split with Narnia. Now, that doesn't mean you double Kong's gross if you take Narnia out, but you have to think not having Narnia around would have sent Kong up at least another $50 mill.
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 04:19 PM
You guys see the Tom Cruise BET clip? :)
http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1687784/
Oh...my....
Warhammer
05-07-2006, 04:22 PM
You guys see the Tom Cruise BET clip? :)
http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1687784/
Tom Cruise is just having fun and promoting.
Cut him some slack.
I thought it was cool that he tried to do the dance.
Master Chief
05-07-2006, 04:23 PM
Cruise rocks.
RedIsNotBlue
05-07-2006, 04:24 PM
Peddling his ass with that white "I am hip" dance to try to bring in the black audience. Oh trust me I know what he is up to. :)
Warhammer
05-07-2006, 04:24 PM
Ok, I just saw M:I:III and it was great.
I'd give it a 9.5/10.
It was a great way to start off the summer blockbuster season.
One question though, I thought Laurence Fishburne's character was a traitor.
I went to the bathroom right after he got capture by IMF and came back when he broke free in the elevator and beat down the agents.
At the end, I saw that his character and Ethan Hunt were on good terms, but I thought he was bad.
What did I miss?
Was he playing both sides?
Warhammer
05-07-2006, 04:25 PM
Peddling his ass with that white "I am hip" dance to try to bring in the black audience. Oh trust me I know what he is up to. :)
It always has to come down to black and white, eh?
Its terrible that this is how we all think now-a-days.....
:down
Master Chief
05-07-2006, 04:26 PM
Billy Crudup's character, the guy who Ethan meets at the 7-11 was the traitor and planted that cover of it being Fishburne.
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 04:27 PM
Warhammer, try to use some spoiler tags. The people who haven't seen it might come hunt you down for spoiling stuff.
Warhammer
05-07-2006, 04:28 PM
Billy Crudup's character, the guy who Ethan meets at the 7-11 was the traitor and planted that cover of it being Fishburne.
Thank You very much.
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 04:45 PM
Billy Crudup's character, the guy who Ethan meets at the 7-11 was the traitor and planted that cover of it being Fishburne.
That was a decent twist too.
RedIsNotBlue
05-07-2006, 04:48 PM
It always has to come down to black and white, eh?
Its terrible that this is how we all think now-a-days.....
:down
Don't tell me. Its how marketing and publicity works.
Darth Elektra
05-07-2006, 04:51 PM
It is a very sad fact, too.
Nevertheless, summer 2006 (with POTC 2, SR, X3, Da Vinci, Over the Hedge, Cars, etc.) will beatdown summer 2005 (Revenge of the Sith and co). However, for the year overall, 2006 should be worried. 2005 ended REALLY well with Goblet of Fire, King Kong, and Narnia.
Charlotts Web comes out this December. And there's alot of horror films coming out in October.
Darth Elektra
05-07-2006, 04:52 PM
It's the beginning of may, college students (like this one) are taking their finals and trying to get their summer plans together. It's going to do fine in the B.O. I know of a ton of people who are very anxious for the movie and haven't gotten a chance to see it yet or are waiting to see if people like it before shelling out nearly $10 for a ticket.
I have 2 friends in College and their finals were this week, so they were finishing up studying.
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 05:05 PM
Charlotts Web comes out this December. And there's alot of horror films coming out in October.
....Goblet of Fire, Narnia, and Kong. ;) Need I say more?
Darth Elektra
05-07-2006, 05:09 PM
I didnt say 06(the end of the year) would be able to beat the end of 05, But I think 06 will end up with bigger numbers. Charlottes Web could be Huge.
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 05:12 PM
I didnt say 06(the end of the year) would be able to beat the end of 05, But I think 06 will end up with bigger numbers. Charlottes Web could be Huge.
Summer 06 combined with a good spring will definitely surpass '05. No doubt about that. My "concern" (if you want to call it that ;) ) is the winter/holiday period. However, that same period only served to help save the mockery that was 05', and make it less embarassing.
Movies205
05-07-2006, 05:14 PM
My thoughts, decent action flick but it felt a bit dry somewhere in the middle and I wasn't feeling Cruise affection for either his wife or the girl who was killed in the beginning, Seymour Hoffman performance was nothing special. But the action was great but none the less it felt really prepackaged and nothing special, I give it 7/10 for being solid!
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 05:17 PM
My thoughts, decent action flick but it felt a bit dry somewhere in the middle and I wasn't feeling Cruise affection for either his wife or the girl who was killed in the beginning, Seymour Hoffman performance was nothing special. But the action was great but none the less it felt really prepackaged and nothing special, I give it 7/10 for being solid!
That's fair enough. As I said in my "review", it didn't break any real ground (although I didn't expect it to), but it was just plain fun.
TheVileOne
05-07-2006, 05:45 PM
From BOM:
Prior to the weekend, a Paramount spokesperson suggested an opening between Mission: Impossible II and War of the Worlds ($64.9 million) as the bar for Mission: Impossible III's success, compared to media and industry expectations that had ballooned past $70 million. On Sunday morning, a hopeful Paramount likened Mission: Impossible III's potential to Batman Begins, which had a weaker-than-expected $48.7 million first weekend but went on to earn $205.3 million. Both sprung from dormant franchises with baggage—Batman and Robin for the latter and Cruise's overblown off-screen antics in Mission's case.
Movies205
05-07-2006, 06:06 PM
From BOM:
Paramount's hopes are shallow at best. Batman Begins was not the end all be all of superhero movies, hell I didn't even think it was amazing, it was simply good. But what it did have was the benefit of being the sequel to one of the worst movies ever and also being something quite different, add in all the critic's praise and waht not, it led to good legs. So far Mi3's reception has been luke-warm, it's possible to have great legs but it's definately doesn't have a ton going for it. Then again I don't see waht the big deal about Posiedon is so that will perhaps under-perform as well and open the doorway for Mi3.
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 06:09 PM
Paramount's hopes are shallow at best. Batman Begins was not the end all be all of superhero movies, hell I didn't even think it was amazing, it was simply good. But what it did have was the benefit of being the sequel to one of the worst movies ever and also being something quite different, add in all the critic's praise and waht not, it led to good legs. So far Mi3's reception has been luke-warm, it's possible to have great legs but it's definately doesn't have a ton going for it. Then again I don't see waht the big deal about Posiedon is so that will perhaps under-perform as well and open the doorway for Mi3.
-I feel the same about Begins.
-Poseidon has very little positive buzz. "Oh, great. ANOTHER ship movie. Whoo hoo! :rolleyes:." People are sick of it.
Warhammer
05-07-2006, 06:09 PM
I think Poseidon will be underwhelming at the Box Office.
Movies205
05-07-2006, 06:11 PM
-I feel the same about Begins.
-Poseidon has very little positive buzz. "Oh, great. ANOTHER ship movie. Whoo hoo! :rolleyes:." People are sick of it.
I don't see anything great about it, so I'll probably end up seeing United 93 that weekend. As for Mi3, the series has consistently never amazed me or made me want go back for seconds, it always leaves me wanting more but I'll give Mi3 this... It came the closest to being a satisfying movie experience.
TheVileOne
05-07-2006, 06:14 PM
Paramount's hopes are shallow at best. Batman Begins was not the end all be all of superhero movies, hell I didn't even think it was amazing, it was simply good. But what it did have was the benefit of being the sequel to one of the worst movies ever and also being something quite different, add in all the critic's praise and waht not, it led to good legs. So far Mi3's reception has been luke-warm, it's possible to have great legs but it's definately doesn't have a ton going for it. Then again I don't see waht the big deal about Posiedon is so that will perhaps under-perform as well and open the doorway for Mi3.
You are right that the hopes of this getting Batman Begins like results are shallow. Batman Begins had better reviews than MI:3. In addition it had the Wednesday head start that MI:3 didn't have. This padded out the weekend BO some.
Lighthouse
05-07-2006, 06:37 PM
That was a decent twist too.
Really? I thought it was completely obvious half way through the movie. There was no way that Fishburne was going to be the traitor. It was way too convienant and obvious.
Overall, I was disappointed in this movie. Thats not to say it was bad. The action was great, and the mission break ins were really cool. I just expected so much more from the creator of Lost than such a run of the mill action movie. I mean there are so many action movie cliches here: The secret agent that tells his wife he works for some boring company, who will inevitablly be kindapped and have to be rescued. The agent thats "retired" and is brought back for one last job. The twist the bad guy that everyone can see a mile away. The scene before the break in where the whole crew talks about just how the Place They're Breaking Into is supposed to be the most guarded place in the world with cameras and guards everywhere, so it becomes so much more impressive when they suceed. The cliche they play with in the movie is the Maguffin. I liked that they never told you what the Rabbits foot was, because like Hitchcock says, no one really cares. JJ Abrams is a smart guy who should know all of these cliches. I was expecting something new.
Movies205
05-07-2006, 06:52 PM
IMO Mi3 felt like a poor-man's Bond which also has become very wooden :o
RedIsNotBlue
05-07-2006, 07:01 PM
No. That was MI2.` :)
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 07:04 PM
No. That was MI2.` :)
I didn't like Mi2 all that much. I felt 3 was a vast improvement.
RedIsNotBlue
05-07-2006, 07:05 PM
I didn't like Mi2 all that much. I felt 3 was a vast improvement.
Yep. Woo tried to turn Hunt into Bond and it blew.
Carter
05-07-2006, 07:28 PM
MI3 was terrific. I don't think you could have asked for much more than we got.
The opening scene is amazing.
The action is great.
It has the same theme as True Lies but does it much better
Hoffman was a great villain
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 07:30 PM
Awesome avy, Carter. :up:
Master Chief
05-07-2006, 07:33 PM
I luffled that elevator scene, reminded me of Die Hard 3 just less bloody.
Darth Elektra
05-07-2006, 08:56 PM
Wouldnt it be awsome if MI3 made more than Psoiden next week.
Cmill216
05-07-2006, 08:57 PM
Wouldnt it be awsome if MI3 made more than Psoiden next week.
Heck yeah. I hope it does. Poseidon looks so weak.
Cinemaman
05-08-2006, 08:29 AM
Posseidon can get only $28m opening weekend and $133m domesticly.
So I think MI3 have enough chances to beat it.
Cmill216
05-08-2006, 08:32 AM
Posseidon can get only $28m opening weekend and $133m domesticly.
"Can only", eh? ;)
Actually, a $28 mill opening weekend ain't gonna lead to $133 mill domestically. More like....$90 mill.
french joker
05-08-2006, 08:36 AM
i'm looking for a pic of Cruise when he is in the airport (with his funny mask :D )
Cinemaman
05-08-2006, 09:18 AM
"Can only", eh? ;)
Actually, a $28 mill opening weekend ain't gonna lead to $133 mill domestically. More like....$90 mill.
Posseid will have legs, but after Cars it will not continue box office.
Downhere
05-08-2006, 09:40 AM
A 28 million opening for Poseidon? I think it can get a bit more than that. I'm thinking 35 million for Poseidon with M:I 3 trailing it at around 30 million for this upcoming weekend.
Prognosticator
05-08-2006, 09:53 AM
A 28 million opening for Poseidon? I think it can get a bit more than that. I'm thinking 35 million for Poseidon with M:I 3 trailing it at around 30 million for this upcoming weekend.
I don't think Poseidon has ANY momentum heading into this weekend's box office! I haven't heard a single person clammor about wanting to see it. In fact, i've heard the opposite. Not even Kurt Russell is saving the movie...
at first i thought i might be interested in seeing it, but now i'm thinking, "why? why do i want to see this movie? ...oh, i don't."
it's going to underperform BIG-TIME and i think word-of-mouth will help Mi:III because Cruise certainly didn't... Poseidon, i think $28 million is a good estimate. however, i WOULDN'T be surprised if it does as poor as $23 million!
Downhere
05-08-2006, 09:55 AM
I think it can go either way, but it is summer and it is a special effects popcorn disaster flick...I think it can garner at least 30 mil...it depends on how many theaters it can pick up. I would rather see M:I 3 take the top spot again because that movie was just freakin' awesome. But I think it's going to be a close one.
Cmill216
05-08-2006, 10:10 AM
Posseid will have legs
Too bad it'll get "sunk" the week after, and the week after that. ;)
Darren Daring
05-08-2006, 10:12 AM
Too bad it'll get "sunk" the week after, and the week after that. ;)
I get it, cause it's a movie about a boat sinking
Cmill216
05-08-2006, 10:12 AM
Poseidon has no chance of being a big hit. No buzz, and sandwiched between Mi3 and Da Vinci/Over the Hedge? :ghost: Death for the 15,000th ship movie.
Alexia Dark
05-08-2006, 11:53 AM
I have to say, I was impressed. I agree with whoever said that MI3 was the best of the MI movies. I liked it. It didn't have the right... momentum. Not enough scope. Not much of a build up. It doesn't make you sit on the edge of your seat and ask 'What's gonna happen? I need to know!'. More like, ok, cool, so what's happening here? There didn't feel to be any one event or moment which drove the plot forward. It lacked something, but overall, it was a pretty good movie. Just my $0.02.
Threshold
05-08-2006, 01:03 PM
The only thing that could save Poseidon is good reviews and strong word of mouth, but honestly, I don't think it's going to have much luck in either of those two departments.
TheVileOne
05-08-2006, 01:08 PM
I actually remember how back when this whole Cruise/Holmes deal started, there was rumored to be some reluctance on the part of Brad Grey to greenlight MI:3. Seeing as to how the movie was easily going to have a ridiculously huge budget. Cruise as producer probably gets a big cut of the profits as well.
Maybe this is a sign Paramount needs to start making smarter investments in their future projects and seeing that throwing tons of money at these so called
"SURE THINGS"
are not always sure things.
Milkman95
05-08-2006, 01:12 PM
I think Poseidon will do moderately well - Kurt Russell, Wolfgang Petersen, and a re-make of a not only good movie, but a popular one. Should be interesting.......I'll be seeing it on IMAX............
I think when you count Worldwide numbers, it should do pretty well. As far as MI3's disappointing take, I'm sure it had everything to do with Tom Cruise, but since it was a good film and word of mouth is positive, it will end up doing pretty well..............
amazingfantasy15
05-08-2006, 01:37 PM
I have to say, I was impressed. I agree with whoever said that MI3 was the best of the MI movies. I liked it. It didn't have the right... momentum. Not enough scope. Not much of a build up. It doesn't make you sit on the edge of your seat and ask 'What's gonna happen? I need to know!'. More like, ok, cool, so what's happening here? There didn't feel to be any one event or moment which drove the plot forward. It lacked something, but overall, it was a pretty good movie. Just my $0.02.
That's basically exactly how I feel. It feels like there's something missing from the movie, that one huge kick@$$ moment, but at the same time, I didn't leave the theater disappointed at all. Everything tied together well, it was very entertaining, I was never bored. During the party sequence there was a point where I almost thought, let's get to some action, but then at the same time, felt that everything worked perfectly during the sequence and there was no rush to move past it. I don't know, I just think everything worked perfectly for a very enjoyable summer popcorn movie. I should've hated the movie, but instead I liked it.
terry78
05-08-2006, 02:04 PM
The party scene was the only one that reminded me of the old tv series out of all three of the movies. That and the disposable camera debriefing.
RedIsNotBlue
05-08-2006, 02:06 PM
You guys think this will be the last in the series?
terry78
05-08-2006, 02:08 PM
MI:4 - Phelps' Revenge
Hunter Rider
05-08-2006, 02:15 PM
I thought the Chesapeake Bay and Vatican sequences both filled the "Wow Kickass moment" Quota personally
RedIsNotBlue
05-08-2006, 02:19 PM
MI:4 - Phelps' Revenge
Or Ethan has a son now and his son turns out to be villain at the end. :o
Cmill216
05-08-2006, 02:45 PM
Last Mi film? I want to say no, but I lean towards the "done" answer.
Cmill216
05-08-2006, 02:46 PM
I actually remember how back when this whole Cruise/Holmes deal started, there was rumored to be some reluctance on the part of Brad Grey to greenlight MI:3. Seeing as to how the movie was easily going to have a ridiculously huge budget. Cruise as producer probably gets a big cut of the profits as well.
Maybe this is a sign Paramount needs to start making smarter investments in their future projects and seeing that throwing tons of money at these so called
"SURE THINGS"
are not always sure things.
Everyone should read EW's cover article (with Tom Cruise) regarding the salaries of Hollywood stars and the effects it is having on the film industry. AMAZING article.
terry78
05-08-2006, 02:48 PM
Isn't Paramount about to acquire Dreamworks to boot? If so, they're going to be a pretty big force in the industry, regardless of flops. Dreamworks has franchises that are guaranteed hits as it is. And adding that to Viacom, Nickeloden, MTV, and whatever else, they're on the ball.
Cmill216
05-08-2006, 02:55 PM
Anybody else sportin' an MI:3 desktop, like me? :D
amazingfantasy15
05-08-2006, 02:56 PM
Like the avatar Hunter Rider, especially since I just read the first page of this thread with you saying how bland you thought Keri Russell was.
ToddIsDead
05-08-2006, 03:31 PM
I saw this movie and was really impressed. I wasn't a huge fan of the previous installments, but this movie was really good. A great way to kick off the summer blockbuster season.
TheVileOne
05-08-2006, 05:53 PM
Isn't Paramount about to acquire Dreamworks to boot? If so, they're going to be a pretty big force in the industry, regardless of flops. Dreamworks has franchises that are guaranteed hits as it is. And adding that to Viacom, Nickeloden, MTV, and whatever else, they're on the ball.
I dunno, the powershift to Grey was sort of an indicator that things have been down lately.
What franchises does Dreamworks have? If you mean the Shrek films, last I heard, Dreamworks animation was going to remain separate from Viacom.
Carter
05-08-2006, 06:23 PM
Russell lost some weight. She looked very sexable in MI3.
ToddIsDead
05-08-2006, 06:27 PM
Carter, your avatar is hypnotizingly awesome. If you could somehow gets some bouncing boobs in there, it'd be a pièce de résistance.
Sorry for the randomness of this post, but I just can't get enough of Tom getting thrown into that car.
Carter
05-08-2006, 07:41 PM
Thanks I was actually thinking about how I liked the way yours turns from Death in The Family to the Batman Annual a few weeks back.
I'll work on the boobs
ToddIsDead
05-08-2006, 08:13 PM
Thanks I was actually thinking about how I liked the way yours turns from Death in The Family to the Batman Annual a few weeks back.
I'll work on the boobs
Thanks. Yeah, I'm very happy with how mine turned out. Son Of Logan did a good job with it.
And I'm tellin ya, boobs would make your avvy perfect.
Bishop2
05-08-2006, 08:40 PM
Pretty good movie, but also seriously flawed.
The biggest problem is that Abrams can't direct for ****. He's not as bad as, say, godforsaken Paul "Did someone just fight? I can't tell!" Greengrass, but the camera is still SO SHAKY during most of the action sequence that, well... for example... the first action sequence, featuring Keri Russell? I don't have a god damn clue what was happening during any of that, because the camera was so ****ing shaky I couldn't see jack OR ****. Seriously, everything with the helicopter, HUH?! Most of the bridge sequence is incomprehensible too. UN****INGACCEPTABLE, and it really brings the movie down.
Plus there's the crap that makes no sense, like um, why did Cruise come flying out of that building? We never see what happened inside and we're never told. We're left to wonder forever. Just like we're left to wonder forever about the stupid "rabit's foot" macguffin. At least in the previous movies we knew what people were after and why.
Anyway, from a script perspective it's good. Emotional and very suspenseful, and I love that they brought back the teamwork element and the "narrow escape" methodology of IMF team missions. There's even a throwaway reference to the first film, which is nice since no one's ever referenced previous adventures before in these flicks.
However, the "mole" is incredibly obvious after a certain point in the film. And I can't believe that there have been traitor IMF agents in ALL THREE ****ING MOVIES SO FAR. My god, worst government agency... ever?
Bottom line: The first two are better-directed and more fun to watch as a result, because they don't give you a headache or make you want to skip over all of the action. However, this one is more intense and certainly has a far better script than the second did.
ToddIsDead
05-08-2006, 08:43 PM
I didn't have a problem with the camera at all. Then again, I didn't have a problem with the Batman Begins camera work either, and it seemed that everyone hated that.
terry78
05-08-2006, 08:45 PM
This shaky cam thing is going to start playing itself out. We as the audience don't need to pretend that we're in on the fight like the characters. We want to see what's happening.
Bishop2
05-08-2006, 08:52 PM
This shaky cam thing is going to start playing itself out. We as the audience don't need to pretend that we're in on the fight like the characters. We want to see what's happening.
That's what I said back in 2000, after they used shakycam in GLADIATOR, which was like... um, WHAT?
But somehow, six years later, it's still here. Dear god, it's still here.
Master Chief
05-08-2006, 08:58 PM
The shaky camera in this movie was done nicely. The camera and the action was spaced out fair enough. When Cruise runs out from the SUV, and the missile hits and he flies into a car, the camera was bobbing all over the place and it was perfect, it just added to the intensity.
Bishop2
05-08-2006, 09:04 PM
I didn't have a problem with the camera at all. Then again, I didn't have a problem with the Batman Begins camera work either, and it seemed that everyone hated that.
I never had a problem with Batman Begins' camera work. But the action in this movie is just abominable. It's not even watchable.
Because of that, I think it's a good "wait for DVD" movie, because that way you can skip all the action sequences, which only bring the movie down.
ToddIsDead
05-08-2006, 09:06 PM
I never had a problem with Batman Begins' camera work. But the action in this movie is just abominable. It's not even watchable.
Because of that, I think it's a good "wait for DVD" movie, because that way you can skip all the action sequences, which only bring the movie down.
Hmm, I really liked the action scenes in the movie. I thought the camera actually added to the scenes in this case. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.
Bishop2
05-08-2006, 09:08 PM
Hmm, I really liked the action scenes in the movie. I thought the camera actually added to the scenes in this case. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.
How can wobbling the camera around like crazy add anything?
I get a nice rush from action if I can see what's going on.
Master Chief
05-08-2006, 09:08 PM
I never had a problem with Batman Begins' camera work. But the action in this movie is just abominable. It's not even watchable.
...Are you being serious? :confused: The camera in both flicks was about the same during fight sequences, with the exception of the sword ice training duel in BB. Begins even had the camera tighter on the action and abruptly cut far and back to the up-close stuff, which made it even worse. At least in M:I:3 you had a sense of what was going on and could see things other than flashes of fists and faces.
Downhere
05-08-2006, 09:09 PM
The camera needed to be pulled back in some of those fight sequences in BB. It would have served the action better if they actually let the viewers see what was happening, but it was still one of the best movies of last year!
Bishop2
05-08-2006, 09:09 PM
...Are you being serious? :confused: The camera in both flicks was about the same during fight sequences, with the exception of the sword ice training duel in BB. Begins even had the camera tighter on the action and abruptly cut far and back to the up-close stuff, which made it hard to focus. At least in M:I:3 you had a sense of what was going on other than flashes of fists and faces.
Batman Begins was VERY quick-cut, rapid-editing. But the camera wasn't wobbling around. I could tell what was happening in Batman Begins, even if I think it probably could've been much better handled. In this movie, I still don't know why Maggie Q was hanging out of the helicopter at one point or comprehend half of why Ethan was running around on the bridge, because I couldn't see dick.
Bishop2
05-08-2006, 09:10 PM
The camera needed to be pulled back in some of those fight sequences in BB. It would have served the action better if they actually let the viewers see what was happening, but it was still one of the best movies of last year!
Amen and amen.
Carter
05-08-2006, 09:54 PM
I didn't even notice much of the shaky cam.
It sucked in the Bourne Supremacy and in Begins
Master Chief
05-08-2006, 09:57 PM
Maaan Carter your avatar is the perfect example of the shaky camera. It was so sweet how it just bobbed in and out focusing on Cruise and then the drone jet and... it made me think like, "Whoa, this is badass." :(
Bishop2
05-08-2006, 10:03 PM
That missile-hit was the least shaky part of that whole sequence.
Batman333
05-09-2006, 07:47 AM
I was disappointed. I thought Seymour Hoffman and Billy C were fantastic as always, but the story was horrible. I thought it would be better than MI 2 cuz no John Woo and different writers, but it was the same teenage action flick.
U have to be a teenager or a man with the IQ of a teenager to like this movie.
Milkman95
05-09-2006, 07:48 AM
This coming from someone who thinks Batman Returns is the best film of all time. Sorry, but your opinion holds about as much water as a strainer around here..............
deathshead2
05-09-2006, 07:49 AM
Yeah im a teen and not even I will see that crap.
Milkman95
05-09-2006, 07:51 AM
Yeah im a teen and not even I will see that crap.
And you have the maturity of one I see as well. Congrats.
deathshead2
05-09-2006, 07:52 AM
And you have the maturity of one I see as well. Congrats.:( That hurt. What I don't like bad movies its not my falt.
Batman333
05-09-2006, 07:59 AM
This coming from someone who thinks Batman Returns is the best film of all time. Sorry, but your opinion holds about as much water as a strainer around here..............
Hmmmm.....When did I say Batman Returns is the best film of all time???? Source? Yeah, exactly, quit running your mouth. Did I offend your little MI 3 movie? Awwww...poor baby....Wow, i can't imagine how mad you would be if i attacked Transporter 2 or any other lame action film.
Batman333
05-09-2006, 07:59 AM
milkman is a little troll. i'm going to ignore him.
Hunter Rider
05-09-2006, 08:00 AM
This coming from someone who thinks Batman Returns is the best film of all time. Sorry, but your opinion holds about as much water as a strainer around here..............
This board gets worse by the day my friend:(
The Question
05-09-2006, 08:00 AM
U have to be a teenager or a man with the IQ of a teenager to like this movie.
Yeah. That ain't offensive at all.
Milkman95
05-09-2006, 08:03 AM
milkman is a little troll. i'm going to ignore him.
I'm a troll? Hilarious.......try looking in the mirror.
Look up the actual definition before you make a fool out of yourself. Oh wait, you already did...........
Bottom line is you didn't need to make a new thread to express your opinion on the film. What a joke........
DonkeyKong
05-09-2006, 08:18 AM
[quote=Milkman95]I'm a troll? Hilarious.......try looking in the mirror.
Look up the actual definition before you make a fool out of yourself. Oh wait, you already did...........
quote]
I think Milkman was born in 1995. "Look in a mirror" ? ? I haven't heard that one since middle school. Serious youth floating around here.
deathshead2
05-09-2006, 08:19 AM
We should just close this now before it gets out of hand.
The Kid
05-09-2006, 08:19 AM
too late. I just increased my post count. weee
deathshead2
05-09-2006, 08:20 AM
too late. I just increased my post count. weee:mad: Oh no you didn't!
Lightning Strykez!
05-09-2006, 08:21 AM
Play nice Gentlemen.
Milkman95
05-09-2006, 08:35 AM
[quote=Milkman95]I'm a troll? Hilarious.......try looking in the mirror.
Look up the actual definition before you make a fool out of yourself. Oh wait, you already did...........
quote]
I think Milkman was born in 1995. "Look in a mirror" ? ? I haven't heard that one since middle school. Serious youth floating around here.
What??
Nice try, but you're way off. How the heck did you come to that conclusion?
Anyway, I'll give you a pass since you're new here.
Milkman95
05-09-2006, 08:36 AM
Play nice Gentlemen.
I'll try Cal.........how's it going by the way? You'll have to let me know when you're in Michigan again..............:)
Mentok
05-09-2006, 08:38 AM
This coming from someone who thinks Batman Returns is the best film of all time. Sorry, but your opinion holds about as much water as a strainer around here..............
Co Signed.
Batman333
05-09-2006, 08:47 AM
not a good film
wow, he says it TWICE!!!
it must be true :rolleyes:
Mentok
05-09-2006, 08:52 AM
not a good film
Whats a good film then?
thealiasman2000
05-09-2006, 08:59 AM
You know, I wouldn't mess with someone who is in a first name basis with the moderators if I were you...
spoilers:why didn't they get zhen to save lindsey since she's the bomb expert?
For future reference writing "SPOILER" in parentethese as you would "QUOTE" will give you the black box to hide your text.
Zhen wasn't so much a bomb expert as she was someone who knew how to plant a plastique explosive in a car. To say nothing of the fact that They had a way to stop the bomb from detonating, but the defibulator didn't charge up in time.
Carter
05-09-2006, 11:47 AM
Some of you are idiots. Movies are subjective. Your opinion of a "good movie" is not necessarily somebody elses.
"I didn't think it was very good" would be the correct response.
Lighthouse
05-09-2006, 02:30 PM
I actually remember how back when this whole Cruise/Holmes deal started, there was rumored to be some reluctance on the part of Brad Grey to greenlight MI:3. Seeing as to how the movie was easily going to have a ridiculously huge budget. Cruise as producer probably gets a big cut of the profits as well.
Maybe this is a sign Paramount needs to start making smarter investments in their future projects and seeing that throwing tons of money at these so called
"SURE THINGS"
are not always sure things.
They are already making great investment decisions. How can you go wrong when you dump Greengrass's Watchmen movie? (That was sarcasm by the way, towards Paramount not the Vile One).
TheVileOne
05-09-2006, 02:50 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2006-05-08&p=.htm
Rather average Monday. Doesn't look like this movie is going to have a fantastic 2nd weekend.
terry78
05-09-2006, 02:52 PM
Poseidon just may take it. I somewhat suspected something when the two showings I went to this weekend only had about half the seats taken. Usually these types of things are sold out.
Milkman95
05-09-2006, 04:52 PM
I still think it will be close between Poseidon and MI3 - maybe the positive word of mouth will help the film in it's second weekend.........
TheVileOne
05-09-2006, 06:06 PM
I still think it will be close between Poseidon and MI3 - maybe the positive word of mouth will help the film in it's second weekend.........
Based off the weekday numbers, I don't think this will be the case.
ultimatefan
05-09-2006, 06:45 PM
Something we gotta keep in mind is the MI movies take about 60% of their BO from foreign markets, and this also seems to be the case with this one. If it manages to get back its production budget (150m) and make, say 250 m overseas, it will still pull at least a decent 400m. Still will be called a disappointment, given the hype, the high price tag, Cruise´s star power and the BO of the first two ones, both of which topped that number. I guess they´ll think twice before making a fourth one.
Darth Elektra
05-09-2006, 06:56 PM
[quote=I guess they´ll think twice before making a fourth one.[/quote]
:( Abrams did such a great job with MI3.
ultimatefan
05-09-2006, 06:58 PM
:( Abrams did such a great job with MI3.
Which is sad. But even if they do make another one, for all we know Cruise will keep his policy of changing director and tone for each MI movie.
Darth Elektra
05-09-2006, 07:00 PM
Good point but still I was hoping the Abrams first film would do really well.
Downhere
05-09-2006, 09:59 PM
Good point but still I was hoping the Abrams first film would do really well.
It is doing well, it's probably headed to a total of 400 million worldwide, that is phenominal for a first time film/movie director.
TwilightPro101
05-09-2006, 10:07 PM
Any gifs of the movie?
TheVileOne
05-09-2006, 10:17 PM
Once again, I doubt Brad Grey is doing backflips over these numbers.
Darth Elektra
05-09-2006, 11:24 PM
MI3 is doing pretty good so far in the week.
3.5 million is pretty good for a monday.
Prognosticator
05-09-2006, 11:48 PM
Abrams will come out of this looking clean! He's the reason most critics have embraced it. Plus, he cowrote AND directed it. He's showing his real talent hear and this will only springboard his future potential.
Master Chief
05-09-2006, 11:53 PM
Haaha, I have M:I:3 on my PSP.
CASHMERE
05-10-2006, 12:11 AM
loved the movie! I though Abrams did well too. btw did anyone notice the neverending Alias-esk stuff.
TheVileOne
05-10-2006, 12:13 AM
MI3 is doing pretty good so far in the week.
3.5 million is pretty good for a monday.
It's pretty below average. Especially for this kind of movie.
Hunter Rider
05-10-2006, 05:15 AM
It's pretty below average. Especially for this kind of movie.
No it isnt:confused:
loved the movie! I though Abrams did well too. btw did anyone notice the neverending Alias-esk stuff.
*starting the movie with the superagent in the clutches of the villain, then backtracking to see how it got to that point. . . CHECK!
*The trendy dinner party at the superagent's posh home. . .CHECK!
*The superagent meeting his handler at the grocery/convenience store . . .CHECK!
*Music by Michael Giacchino. . . .CHECK!!
thealiasman2000
05-10-2006, 07:47 AM
WEll, for what it's worth, John Woo directed part 2 like it was one of his regular actionfests, and De Palma directed part 1 with the same style he has for all of his movies.
Cmill216
05-10-2006, 08:27 AM
No it isnt:confused:
Actually, it is.
It should be earning something around $5 mill to be a decent weekday.
WEll, for what it's worth, John Woo directed part 2 like it was one of his regular actionfests, and De Palma directed part 1 with the same style he has for all of his movies.
Oh, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Lord knows Alias owes a lot to Mission: Impossible in terms of influence anyway. And at least there was an element of mystery and subtlety to De Palma's approach that was completely missing from Woo's, who pretty much just made Hard Target 2.
but the last action secenes were good though
Wyrminarrd
05-10-2006, 09:04 AM
I thought the movie was pretty good and quite possibly the best of the series.
Two-Face
05-10-2006, 09:26 AM
I'm quite surprised that Thandie Newton did not return to MI3, I mean she was saved and didn't die.
Cmill216
05-10-2006, 10:06 AM
Uh, Sava.....you might want to check that, dude...
Master Chief
05-10-2006, 10:07 AM
Kate owns, he doesn't have the sheck anything.
Cinemaman
05-10-2006, 12:30 PM
Hope it will get good WOM, because it is the last chance for movie to get more than $180m.
Good WOM also helped BB to get $205m.
Uh, Sava.....you might want to check that, dude...
check what?...my avy isnt showing any nipple :confused:
Kate owns, he doesn't have the sheck anything.
:confused:
Hope it will get good WOM, because it is the last chance for movie to get more than $180m.
Good WOM also helped BB to get $205m.
180 is out of the question, 130 is doable with ok word of mouth, 150 maybe with great WOM
Darth Elektra
05-10-2006, 12:36 PM
Sava, GREAT avatar.
Master Chief
05-10-2006, 12:38 PM
You don't even know who those breasts belong to Sava? You are undeserving of that avatar. :mad:
MI3 wont have BB "legs", it dropped alot on monday.
thanks Darth :up:
You don't even know who those breasts belong to Sava? You are undeserving of that avatar. :mad:
Boobs are boobs :mad:... dont care about the name as long as the twins look great :cool: :up:
Darth Elektra
05-10-2006, 12:44 PM
lol, its true... Boobs are Boobs.
Cmill216
05-10-2006, 01:39 PM
Sava, I'm not saying the tatas ain't nice (cause they are), but I know the mods have been really crackin' down on the nips, and the last time I checked, I'm not blind and I sure as hell see nip in the avy. Again, my eyes don't mind ( ;) ), but I'm not so sure about those kids with the red names.
Sava, I'm not saying the tatas ain't nice (cause they are), but I know the mods have been really crackin' down on the nips, and the last time I checked, I'm not blind and I sure as hell see nip in the avy. Again, my eyes don't mind ( ;) ), but I'm not so sure about those kids with the red names.
Nip is poking through, but you cant exactly "see" it, he top isnt see through. Just to make it clear :)
Cmill216
05-10-2006, 01:42 PM
Whatever, Sav. Whatever you believe you see is what's most imporant. ;)
Whatever, Sav. Whatever you believe you see is what's most imporant. ;)
:D... this is like the 4th boobs avy i have
Cmill216
05-10-2006, 01:45 PM
Hey, what can I say. You like the boobies. And I don't blame you.
Okay, let's get back on topic.
ToddIsDead
05-10-2006, 02:07 PM
Okay, let's get back on topic.
No, lets just talk about boobs.
Bishop2
05-12-2006, 08:06 PM
No, lets just talk about boobs.
...IMPOSSIBLE boobs.
That are set to self-destruct in five seconds.
TheVileOne
05-13-2006, 03:03 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2006-05-12&p=.htm
To update, MI:3 is NOT having the Batman Begins legs or great word of mouth everyone proclaimed it would.
Strgts
05-13-2006, 03:11 PM
The Ending Sucked. It was sooooooooooooo NOT Mission Impossible. However what I did get from the ending was that he will always be an IMF Agent & will be with the same Girl. So if they do not make anymore after this I guess we got a little bit of closure. But if Stone is making Basic Instinct 3 after Part 2s flop I am sure MI:4 will happen either way.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2006-05-12&p=.htm
To update, MI:3 is NOT having the Batman Begins legs or great word of mouth everyone proclaimed it would.
still looks like it'll end up with F4 numbers
Two-Face
05-13-2006, 03:29 PM
Sava, I love your avatar!
TheVileOne
05-13-2006, 03:58 PM
still looks like it'll end up with F4 numbers
Nope. It's not going to break $150 million.
The best MI:3 can hope for now, Van Helsing numbers.
ultimatefan
05-13-2006, 05:42 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2006-05-12&p=.htm
To update, MI:3 is NOT having the Batman Begins legs or great word of mouth everyone proclaimed it would.
Friday always has the highest drops. According to sites like www.boxofficereport.com, with these numbers, MI III should have an average 48% drop through the whole weekend, which is decent legs. It still doesn´t look like it will pull a Batman Begins, it won´t even make 100m in its second weekend, but it has a shot at at least getting back its production budget. If it makes more than three times its opening, Abrams did his job. He can´t be blamed for the weak opening - these fingers are being pointed at Cruise right now - but he is responsible if the movie gets good word of mouth and staying power.
And I can´t stop staring at Sava´s avvy...
Hunter Rider
05-13-2006, 05:58 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2006-05-12&p=.htm
To update, MI:3 is NOT having the Batman Begins legs or great word of mouth everyone proclaimed it would.
It's still holding well,Vile your just loving it a bit to eagerly IMO
Bishop2
05-13-2006, 06:57 PM
check what?...my avy isnt showing any nipple :confused:
:confused:
I clearly see nipples.
Backdrifter
05-13-2006, 06:59 PM
Those are Kate's boobies.
*sigh*
Kate. How I love her.
Master Chief
05-13-2006, 07:00 PM
Too bad it isn't her real name. Kate Ground? I mean, jeez, I don't think anyone's stupid enough to not see through that. But if that is her real name... crazy coincidence. :( But at least she's Canadian. :O
Nope. It's not going to break $150 million.
The best MI:3 can hope for now, Van Helsing numbers.
how so?... its not dropping as bad as F4, it still has a shot at making 150 in the US
Cmill216
05-14-2006, 12:00 PM
http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
$24.5 mill and #1 for Mi3.
Threshold
05-14-2006, 12:26 PM
That's good to hear!
just saw MI3 today, great film, there are flaws but its still damn good. Way better than MI2 and just as good as MI1 IMO.
black_dust
05-14-2006, 01:53 PM
I saw it today as well, i thought it was pretty cool and great popcorn movie anyway, i guessed the ending pretty much half way through it haha, but some cool stunts and effects init :)
chi-boy
05-15-2006, 12:33 AM
The ending was anticlimatic. Did anyone really care what was going on when Ethan died? And the ending was cheesy and felt like it belonged in a TV drama, not a MI movie. The ending should have left you wanting for more.
RedIsNotBlue
05-15-2006, 12:39 AM
Yeah that was one of my few gripes with the movie. The end when Ethan was "brought back". Felt kinda lame.
Bishop2
05-15-2006, 07:21 PM
I thought it was a cool moment, because of how he immediately grabbed the gun. Plus his dialogue. Plus you know, it was one more emotional strain on the characters, which is what movie's all about: dicking with Ethan and Julia.
chi-boy
05-15-2006, 07:49 PM
I thought it was a cool moment, because of how he immediately grabbed the gun. Plus his dialogue. Plus you know, it was one more emotional strain on the characters, which is what movie's all about: dicking with Ethan and Julia.
nobody cares about ethan and julia.
Hunter Rider
05-15-2006, 07:54 PM
nobody cares about ethan and julia.
Everyone in my cinema did
Cmill216
05-15-2006, 08:00 PM
Everyone in my cinema did
Uh, yeah. Mine too.
green
05-15-2006, 08:07 PM
Huh...mine too.
Backdrifter
05-15-2006, 08:08 PM
I did not care for them either. I thought the whole relationship was contrived and artificial.
chi-boy
05-15-2006, 08:08 PM
Were you all at the same scientologists only screening? :)
Hunter Rider
05-15-2006, 08:08 PM
I did not care for them either. I thought the whole relationship was contrived and artificial.
Good for you:)
Hunter Rider
05-15-2006, 08:08 PM
Edit
Hunter Rider
05-15-2006, 08:09 PM
Were you all at the same scientologists only screening? :)
No.......
green
05-15-2006, 08:09 PM
I did not care for them either. I thought the whole relationship was contrived and artificial.
What relationship isnt?:confused:
Backdrifter
05-15-2006, 08:10 PM
Good for you:)
What? It was...who cares about the wife/girlfriend. It is Mission: Impossible. I want to see a highly trained team do impossible missions through intricate planning and clever execution, like the TV show. Not Tom Cruise rescue his girlfriend. It was a good movie, but the whole love story was tacky and felt out of place. It worked better in True Lies.
Hunter Rider
05-15-2006, 08:12 PM
What? It was...who cares about the wife/girlfriend. It is Mission: Impossible. I want to see a highly trained team do impossible missions through intricate planning and clever execution, like the TV show. Not Tom Cruise rescue his girlfriend. It was a good movie, but the whole love story was tacky and felt out of place. It worked better in True Lies.
I disagree,it made the stakes higher and took Ethan out of his standard cool as ice routine,plus they were very likeable together in the early scenes
Cmill216
05-15-2006, 08:12 PM
What? It was...who cares about the wife/girlfriend. It is Mission: Impossible. I want to see a highly trained team do impossible missions through intricate planning and clever execution, like the TV show. Not Tom Cruise rescue his girlfriend. It was a good movie, but the whole love story was tacky and felt out of place. It worked better in True Lies.
Well of course the only point of the relationship was to add "heart" to the film (whatever that means ;) ). It wasn't "OMG" beautifully done and Shakespearean, but it did its job.
ToddIsDead
05-15-2006, 08:14 PM
I thought the relationship was pretty well done. I thought it worked. You can't please everyone.
Backdrifter
05-15-2006, 08:16 PM
I disagree,it made the stakes higher and took Ethan out of his standard cool as ice routine,plus they were very likeable together in the early scenes
I disagree. I thought it was a forced attempt at what you said. It just all felt forced to me. I think True Lies did a better job with the whole 'wife getting captured by the bad guy thing' because their marriage was falling apart because of his job and she was pulled into the mess. The whole sweet innocent girl thing does not work for me. It might be do to the fact that the girl was too young for me to believe she is engaged to Hunt.
Hunter Rider
05-15-2006, 08:18 PM
I disagree. I thought it was a forced attempt at what you said. It just all felt forced to me. I think True Lies did a better job with the whole 'wife getting captured by the bad guy thing' because their marriage was falling apart because of his job and she was pulled into the mess. The whole sweet innocent girl thing does not work for me. It might be do to the fact that the girl was too young for me to believe she is engaged to Hunt.
then we shall just disagree,as Todd said
Backdrifter
05-15-2006, 08:18 PM
What really would have raised the stakes is if Julia would have died or been killed by Davian. I would have liked the movie more if it had some balls.
Hunter Rider
05-15-2006, 08:19 PM
What really would have raised the stakes is if Julia would have died or been killed by Davian. I would have liked the movie more if it had some balls.
And negate the whole point of the second half of the film,.this was a summer movie not some gritty R rated thriller where ppl expect misery
Backdrifter
05-15-2006, 08:22 PM
And negate the whole point of the second half of the film,.this was a summer movie not some gritty R rated thriller where ppl expect misery
No. THat would change the second half of the film completely into something more interesting. Revenge. Ethan's team then having the job to keep him from exacting his revenge. Reminding him that he has a job to do. That sort of thing. I just feel the movie has some room for improvement.
Hunter Rider
05-15-2006, 08:23 PM
No. THat would change the second half of the film completely into something more interesting. Revenge. Ethan's team then having the job to keep him from exacting his revenge. Reminding him that he has a job to do. That sort of thing. I just feel the movie has some room for improvement.
Ah so your basically saying kill her earlier in the movie not at the last moment when Ethan has gotten to her like someone in here suggested ?
Backdrifter
05-15-2006, 08:24 PM
This was a summer movie not some gritty R rated thriller where ppl expect misery
I point you to
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/14/ew.dvd.jaws/story.jaws.jpg
The original blockbuster. It was a grim movie, but satisfying. Blockbusters can feature death and still be fun.
Backdrifter
05-15-2006, 08:26 PM
Ah so your basically saying kill her earlier in the movie not at the last moment when Ethan has gotten to her like someone in here suggested ?
Somewhere in the second act she should die. That is what I think. I think the film would have been more interesting if Ethan had to suffer some consequences for the personal relationship he choose. Anyway, this is all pointless.
Hunter Rider
05-15-2006, 08:27 PM
I point you to
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/14/ew.dvd.jaws/story.jaws.jpg
The original blockbuster. It was a grim movie, but satisfying. Blockbusters can feature death and still be fun.
The hero didn't lose his wife or son to the shark,killing of some team member heroes is fine but rarely do their spouses or kids get offed
Hunter Rider
05-15-2006, 08:28 PM
Somewhere in the second act she should die. That is what I think. I think the film would have been more interesting if Ethan had to suffer some consequences for the personal relationship he choose. Anyway, this is all pointless.
I think that way would have worked as well but i had no issue with the way it went but as you say all pointless now,on to Miami Vice
Backdrifter
05-15-2006, 08:29 PM
Its Mann, of course it will be a soild movie. I have no worries about Miami Vice. When has Michael Mann ever mad a bad movie?
Hunter Rider
05-15-2006, 08:31 PM
Its Mann, of course it will be a soild movie. I have no worries about Miami Vice. When has Michael Mann ever mad a bad movie?
Never that i can think of but early test screenings went down badly,have you checked the new trailer out though ?
ToddIsDead
05-15-2006, 08:35 PM
Miami Vice will almost definitely be atleast a fun movie.
Backdrifter
05-15-2006, 08:37 PM
Never that i can think of but early test screenings went down badly,have you checked the new trailer out though ?
Test screenings are usually full of idiots. After the fiasco with Gabriel Yared's original score of Troy being rejected because of test screenings, I really do not care what people say in them.
Darth Elektra
05-15-2006, 10:00 PM
Wow, I have to concur with Stewie on this. WOuld have been a better movie if Ethan would have been more focused on revenge in the secont half.
Bishop2
05-15-2006, 10:18 PM
Somewhere in the second act she should die. That is what I think. I think the film would have been more interesting if Ethan had to suffer some consequences for the personal relationship he choose. Anyway, this is all pointless.
James Bond already did that. "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" and all. :)
I liked that the movie offered satisfying closure to the series, because it's doubtful we'll see Ethan on the screen again.
britrogue
05-16-2006, 05:12 AM
Saw it the other day and personally thought it was the best of the three
TheVileOne
05-17-2006, 12:05 AM
Never that i can think of but early test screenings went down badly,have you checked the new trailer out though ?
ALI was a mediocre movie :p .
rider, what happened to the naked woman in your avatar? Wasn't that yours?
Electro UK
05-20-2006, 01:15 PM
Just saw it. F**king loved every moment of it. Cruise and Hoofman both give great performances. The scene on the bridge was incredible, the plane screeching past was breath taking.
Loved this film, favorite out of the 3. :up:
Just came back, wow what a great movie! Definetly the best of the 3. It was different but in a good way. It was funny hearing some of the "Lost" music in the movie. Its too bad the ending wasnt as good as the rest of the movie but still an awesome movie! 8.5! Like Hunter Rider said "On to Miami Vice" :up:
black_dust
05-21-2006, 06:01 AM
Forgot to mention when i went see it last week, an 80 year old woman walked in to watch it! how cool is that!!
DarKush
05-21-2006, 08:21 PM
MI3 was a great action film. The best of the MI movie series easily. A lot of the criticisms I heard before checking it out didn't really pan out for me.
I thought Davian's character had enough screentime. I also thought Cruise had believable chemistry with his romantic interest. The movie also had more of a team feel than the other two, though the Zhen character needed more screentime. Maggie Q is gorgeous. The action scenes were also good.
I also enjoyed Laurence Fishburne in the movie. He was a great hardass boss. If there is an MI4, I hope he returns.
Actually, I think, even though I know it won't happen, that MI3 could set up a new trilogy of movies centering on a new central character. I think MI3 set up Hunt's exit from the series very nicely.
Backdrifter
05-21-2006, 09:05 PM
Yeah. I am tired of Hunt. I think it is time for a new hero.
Cmill216
05-21-2006, 09:08 PM
Yeah. I am tired of Hunt. I think it is time for a new hero.
Not to worry. After these lackluster returns, you won't be seeing Hunt or his crew for a long, long time. ;)
TheVileOne
05-21-2006, 09:25 PM
Yeah, MI:3 is probably going to strugle to get about $130 million in the US alone.
People can talk about worldwide and DVD all they want, I doubt Paramount is happy about these returns. Especially since a good chunk of it probably goes back to Cruise, which probably goes to Scientology :) .
I also still think the movie was overrated by a lot of people.
Just saw it today and loved every second of it.
Plus I love Maggie Q.
jimmylace
05-25-2006, 07:39 PM
I saw this, and found myself loving it. virtually flawless film*female lead wasnt very good*-and for the naysayers MI3 did take a few risks compared to the usual sanitised crap (never expected that agent with the bomb in her head to die for example) next id like to see frank darabonts black market body parts mi movie.....directed by fincher hopefully....thatd be sweet.though I could happily watch more abrams mi movies.
Yeah, MI:3 is probably going to strugle to get about $130 million in the US alone.
People can talk about worldwide and DVD all they want, I doubt Paramount is happy about these returns. Especially since a good chunk of it probably goes back to Cruise, which probably goes to Scientology :) .
I also still think the movie was overrated by a lot of people.
You seem REALLY desperate to get your point across about not caring for the film as much as others. Get over it.
TheVileOne
05-25-2006, 10:00 PM
You seem REALLY desperate to get your point across about not caring for the film as much as others. Get over it.
Hey I like the movie. But you know, it's not exactly setting things afire :p .
cyborg ninja 14
05-26-2006, 01:22 AM
I saw this, and found myself loving it. virtually flawless film*female lead wasnt very good*-and for the naysayers MI3 did take a few risks compared to the usual sanitised crap (never expected that agent with the bomb in her head to die for example) next id like to see frank darabonts black market body parts mi movie.....directed by fincher hopefully....thatd be sweet.though I could happily watch more abrams mi movies.
virtually flawless? man you gotta be kidding me on that one.
tzarinna
05-30-2006, 11:26 PM
My goal is to see it this week. Then I can have a discussion on it's flaws, although I never did see the second one. No surprise there.
Of course it's not flawless, I can only think of few movies that are.
But I had a hell of a time with MI3, just like I did with MI1 and MI2.
Carter
05-31-2006, 01:21 AM
It's not flawless, but it is a great film.
It's in my top 10 now, an honor that only movies like Oldboy, Pulp Fiction, and Raiders of the Lost Ark have.
WorthyStevens
08-11-2006, 01:34 PM
Title: Mission Impossible 3
Starring: Tom Cruise
Released: 30th October 2006
SRP: $24.99 & $19.99
Further Details:
Paramount has announced single and double-disc editions of Mission Impossible 3 which stars Tom Cruise, Ving Rhames, Keri Russell, and Philip Seymour Hoffman. Each will be available to own from the 30th October this year. The two-disc collector's edition will include a number of features including an audio commentary with Cruise and and director J.J. Abrams, five deleted scenes, four documentaries (“The Making of the Mission,” “Mission Action: Inside the Action Unit,” “Visualizing the Mission” and “Scoring the Mission.”), a “Moviefone Unscripted” segment, in which Abrams and Cruise answer questions from fans, theatrical trailers and eastereggs. The single-disc release (priced at around $19.99) will include only the audio commentary, “The Making of the Mission” documentary and deleted scenes.
Also available from the 30th will be HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc versions of the film. Each will feature the film in 1080p high-definition, along with English, French and Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital Plus soundtracks. As well as all of the above features, the HD DVD release will include an “enhanced commentary” with star Tom Cruise and Abrams that shows them talking in a corner of the screen while the movie is playing. Each of the high-definition releases will retail at around $29.99.
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7982/mi3r1artworkpic2cd1.jpg
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/mission-impossible-3.html
Cmill216
08-11-2006, 01:53 PM
:eek:
That cover kicks a$$. Loved the movie!
Backdrifter
08-11-2006, 02:00 PM
Why is Tom Cruise's name almost as big as the title. Man, that guy has got some ego...
theShape
08-11-2006, 02:02 PM
He's an assclown.
Dark Donnie
08-11-2006, 02:17 PM
He's an assclown.
Which Haddonfield are you from?
Cmill216
08-11-2006, 02:21 PM
Why is Tom Cruise's name almost as big as the title.
Because technically, it's his movie.
Sweet!
I loved this movie so much :up:
Cinemaman
08-11-2006, 03:38 PM
Cover looks awesome and I will buy it.
It was very good movie and the best MI film.
U.S War Machine
08-11-2006, 03:44 PM
Movie was alright
Darth Elektra
08-15-2006, 06:23 PM
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7982/mi3r1artworkpic2cd1.jpg
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/mission-impossible-3.html
I'll be picking this up!
The Caped Knight
08-15-2006, 08:51 PM
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7982/mi3r1artworkpic2cd1.jpg
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/mission-impossible-3.html
:eek: :eek: Badass cover . I love it and i'm so getting this movie .
Warhammer
08-15-2006, 11:11 PM
^I agree.
That is a badass cover. :eek:
:cool:
Bishop2
08-16-2006, 12:26 AM
And here I was gonna say "Wow. Gimpy cover." :(
Warhammer
08-16-2006, 12:28 AM
...thats the one of the best DVD covers I've seen.
At least they partially used the movie poster as the DVD cover, cuz the movie posters are always better than the DVD covers.
Bishop2
08-16-2006, 12:30 AM
...thats the one of the best DVD covers I've seen.
At least they partially used the movie poster as the DVD cover, cuz the movie posters are always better than the DVD covers.
- It's got a silly quote at top, always bad.
- The incredibly generic "series of cast heads." Sigh. Always a sign that nobody's even trying.
Now here's a superior cover:
http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/f9/45/c19b729fd7a05ae09ff0d010.L.jpg
Uses the poster art instead of tossing it into the trash, keeps it simple and sleek. Unfortunately still has a stupid quote on the front.
Warhammer
08-16-2006, 12:32 AM
- It's got a silly quote at top, always bad.
- The incredibly generic "series of cast heads." Sigh. Always a sign that nobody's even trying.
Now here's a superior cover:
http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/f9/45/c19b729fd7a05ae09ff0d010.L.jpg
Uses the poster art instead of tossing it into the trash, keeps it simple and sleek. Unfortunately still has a stupid quote on the front.
Damn. :eek:
...Thats damn good. I wish it was still blue, but still very good
....except for the quote. :ghost:
Hunter Rider
08-16-2006, 06:47 AM
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7982/mi3r1artworkpic2cd1.jpg
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/mission-impossible-3.html
Love the cover:up:
Super_Ludacris
08-16-2006, 06:56 AM
Cover is ok, pretty standard generic action movie cover with some slight yet minimal intrest
kinda like the movie. itself...
Super_Ludacris
08-16-2006, 06:58 AM
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Super_Ludacris
08-16-2006, 07:02 AM
Why is Tom Cruise's name almost as big as the title. Man, that guy has got some ego...
To be fair the franchise (like most of his films) is his star vehicle and despite his idiocies of the past year he is still (suprsingly) the most bankable star in Hollywood along with Tom Hanks (Johnny Depp is getting there, but if you calculate per capita of Hanks and Cruise filmography they are the most bankable over 20 years and counting). It's a logical and standard marketing move
WorthyStevens
10-22-2006, 09:21 PM
I finally saw M:I3 tonight.
FANTASTIC F*****G MOVIE.
Yeah, it's a great movie.
My favorite MI movie, even though I love the first 2 (for very different reasons)
I can't wait to get the 2 disc set next week :up:
Darth Elektra
10-22-2006, 10:19 PM
Yeah, a really good film, I can't wait to pick the dvd up!
terry78
10-22-2006, 10:28 PM
Best part of the movie to me is still Keri Russell after the nitroglycerine incident. Very good makeup work there, though still kinda creepy. :(
WorthyStevens
10-22-2006, 11:02 PM
One thing that impressed me was that they didn't drop the ball by having Laurence Fishburne as the rogue IMF agent/director.
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