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raybia
05-09-2005, 03:17 PM
On a neutral site, no utlitity belt, no weapons, no cape. Just mano e mano.

MatchesMalone
05-09-2005, 03:43 PM
The "Chinese Samurai" from Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story would own them both.

raybia
05-09-2005, 03:47 PM
Yeah that was cool as hell!!

MatchesMalone
05-09-2005, 03:50 PM
And also incredibly ridiculous and absurd at the same time ;)

Of course, that movie was such a bastardization of Bruce Lee's life that it was a comedy to me.

:joker:

Guyverjay
05-09-2005, 03:52 PM
Goku...I mean...ahh...Goku

MatchesMalone
05-09-2005, 03:52 PM
^ Guh??

Diamondhead
05-09-2005, 04:06 PM
Marvel’s Shang-chi (master of kung fu) was really in fact Bruce lee
So next time please compare a fictional character such as the batman with another fictional character

Because I hate it when you guys compare real people such as Bruce lee to fictional characters such as Spiderman or the batman
When you do that it makes you seem like you guys are retarded or something.

Anyway in respect for the “real people” I think that Bruce lee would have kick batman's butt to seven heavens the same way Muhammad Ali once kick Superman's

raybia
05-09-2005, 04:07 PM
And also incredibly ridiculous and absurd at the same time ;)

Of course, that movie was such a bastardization of Bruce Lee's life that it was a comedy to me.

:joker:

Well you're right considering this was supposed to be a bio of Bruce Lee's life, not Iron Monkey or Kung Fu Hustle.

MatchesMalone
05-09-2005, 04:15 PM
Just saying the words "Chinese Samurai" makes me want to punch something.

Don't get me started on the inaccuracies of Dragon, I will not stop for a week.

raybia
05-09-2005, 04:25 PM
Marvel’s Shang-chi (master of kung fu) was really in fact Bruce lee
So next time please compare a fictional character such as the batman with another fictional character

Because I hate it when you guys compare real people such as Bruce lee to fictional characters such as Spiderman or the batman
When you do that it makes you seem like you guys are retarded or something.

Anyway in respect for the “real people” I think that Bruce lee would have kick batman's butt to seven heavens the same way Muhammad Ali once kick Superman's

Yeah, you have a good point. How about Batman vs. Bruce Lee's character from Enter the Dragon?(whatever his name was)

Diamondhead
05-09-2005, 04:36 PM
And also incredibly ridiculous and absurd at the same time ;)

Of course, that movie was such a bastardization of Bruce Lee's life that it was a comedy to me.

:joker:I’ve read some book about Bruce lee and it seems to reveal that Bruce lee wasn't nearly as strong as those characters he played in his movies.

Some of the article I’ve read stated that is was ridiculous for people to assume that Bruce lee could've beaten a real athlete such as Muhammad Ali.

You guys must understand it was the 60’s and the debut of the70’s. People were easier to fool back then.
If Sylvester Stallone played the Rambo back then.
Lots of people would have believed that he could really do all the things he did in those Rambo movies (which means taking on an entire army all by himself.)
LOL
And they would have also believed him to be the greatest boxer ever, and not even Muhammad Ali could’ve stood a chance against him.
It would have been the same for Arnold Schwarzenegger too. People would have perceived as being this bad Mother ****er invincible Superman that he usually portrayed in his movies.

Bruce lee had to live to the expectation of the people who believed in him and those overtraining session with a couple of marijuana cake muffin lead to his demise.


Did you guys knows that Chuck Norris had once beaten Bruce lee in a real Martial art competition
But to those Bruce lee fans out there it doesn’t really count because they always believed that Bruce Lee was too tired at the time he fought Chuck Norris in that competition.

MatchesMalone
05-09-2005, 04:37 PM
In a wonderfully innovative screenwriting decision, Bruce Lee's character in Enter the Dragon was named, simply, "Lee".

:o

MatchesMalone
05-09-2005, 04:47 PM
I’ve read some book about Bruce lee and it seems to reveal that Bruce lee wasn't nearly as strong as those characters he played in his movies.

Some of the article I’ve read stated that is was ridiculous for people to assume that Bruce lee could've beaten a real athlete such as Muhammad Ali.

You guys must understand it was the 60’s and the debut of the70’s. People were easier to fool back then.
If Sylvester Stallone played the Rambo back then.
Lots of people would have believed that he could really do all the things he did in those Rambo movies (which means taking on an entire army all by himself.)
LOL
And they would have also believed him to be the greatest boxer ever, and not even Muhammad Ali could’ve stood a chance against him.
It would have been the same for Arnold Schwarzenegger too. People would have perceived as being this bad Mother ****er invincible Superman that he usually portrayed in his movies.

Bruce lee had to live to the expectation of the people who believed in him and those overtraining session with a couple of marijuana cake muffin lead to his demise.


Did you guys knows that Chuck Norris had once beaten Bruce lee in a real Martial art competition
But to those Bruce lee fans out there it doesn’t really count because they always believed that Bruce Lee was too tired at the time he fought Chuck Norris in that competition.

Norris never beat Bruce Lee in a martial arts competition. Lee never competed officially. Norris was a student of Bruce Lee's during the late 60's.

As to your comments about Sijo Lee going up against a "Real athlete." I was unaware that Bruce Lee WASN'T a real athlete. He trained fanatically seven days a week. He injured his back weight-lifting, not at some underground pride fight (which never happened, by the way). He was as much of an athlete as Ali, Foreman, or any professional athlete today.

I agree that as time passes, things get overblown and "legendary". This is true for anything you read about Bruce Lee. There are more contradictory accounts of his life, training, and philosophy than any famous figure I have encountered save Christ himself. It's ridiculous.

ShadowBoxing
05-09-2005, 05:41 PM
Bruce Lee admitted himself he could not beat Ali, he used to train to tapes of Ali but was never able to match Ali's hand speed

Comic Book Boy
05-09-2005, 07:30 PM
I think Batman knows more different forms of combat than Lee.

dude love
05-09-2005, 07:44 PM
Why in the green f**k would Batman want to fight Bruce Lee?

If anything Batman would respect him...

I swear these vs. are damn annoying! To the next dumbass who's thinking about posting one, your gonna get goatse emailed to you!

Diamondhead
05-09-2005, 11:42 PM
I think Batman knows more different forms of combat than Lee.EH bookie boy!
Bruce lee was for real
Get that inside your bird brain Ok!

Diamondhead
05-09-2005, 11:48 PM
Why in the green f**k would Batman want to fight Bruce Lee?

If anything Batman would respect him...

I swear these vs. are damn annoying! To the next dumbass who's thinking about posting one, your gonna get goatse emailed to you!Indeed!
The only Vs I’d like to see around these boards are
Jenny Vs Bewitched, Sabrina vs. charmed
Or king Kong vs. Hong Kong
LOL

silentflute
05-10-2005, 11:42 AM
Bruce Lee admitted himself he could not beat Ali, he used to train to tapes of Ali but was never able to match Ali's hand speed

In a ring with rules-absolutly.On the street, Lee would have slaughtered Ali.

He did in fact train to tapes of Ali to study his techniques.As far as speed,Lee was faster than Ali.

silentflute
05-10-2005, 11:56 AM
Norris never beat Bruce Lee in a martial arts competition. Lee never competed officially. Norris was a student of Bruce Lee's during the late 60's.

As to your comments about Sijo Lee going up against a "Real athlete." I was unaware that Bruce Lee WASN'T a real athlete. He trained fanatically seven days a week. He injured his back weight-lifting, not at some underground pride fight (which never happened, by the way). He was as much of an athlete as Ali, Foreman, or any professional athlete today.

I agree that as time passes, things get overblown and "legendary". This is true for anything you read about Bruce Lee. There are more contradictory accounts of his life, training, and philosophy than any famous figure I have encountered save Christ himself. It's ridiculous.

Well said Matches.Was Lee as good as good as he has been hyped to be?It's hard to say-he never competed.However, the fact that the top 3 martial art champions of the 60's(Joe Lewis,Mike Stone and Chuck Norris) came to him for training( before his movie fame) says a hell of a lot.Especially with guys like Joe Lewis and Mike Stone who walk the walk and were known as the premiere bad boys of the sport.Their attitude was "don't tell me,show me".

It's also wrth noting that Lee himself considered 99% of martial arts to be bull**** when it comes to real fighting.He worked his ass off to create a science(which he named Jeet Kune Do) that would cut to the heart of the matter and end a fight quickly.Did he succeed?No.Was he the real deal?For sure.

If you look at Batman and Daredevils fighting "styles"-they are representations of what Lee was creating himself to be in the late 60's.The idea is not to accumulate as manyfighting techniques as possible,but to see the common denominater in these techniques and use that to your full potential.At the end of the day ,fighting is fighting-and yes while there is a science to it- that science lies in timing,elusiveness and speed.

Ali was a perfect example-not the strongest or hardest or even biggest fighter, but he had the timing and brains to defeat much more powerful and meaner guys.

MatchesMalone
05-10-2005, 01:21 PM
^ Very well said. One of my instructor's favorite lines goes like this: "Why do you think 99% of all martial arts has the same kick? The same punch? The human body is the same for everybody on the planet. 2 arms, 2 legs. There's a finite way of moving those limbs effectively."

Comic Book Boy
05-10-2005, 07:44 PM
EH bookie boy!
Bruce lee was for real
Get that inside your bird brain Ok!
STFU! You dumbass, are you high? Of course he isn't real. But what is the point of even reading comics if you are grounded in reality like that? Suspension of disbelief dude, you know what that means?:batman:

flashbug
05-11-2005, 12:14 PM
Well I've only seen Enter the Dragon (but like four times now)
But I do know that Bruce Lee was Hong Kong's Cha Cha Dance Champion in 1958 (totally serious)
Because of that I vote Lee.

silentflute
05-11-2005, 12:29 PM
Well I've only seen Enter the Dragon (but like four times now)
But I do know that Bruce Lee was Hong Kong's Cha Cha Dance Champion in 1958 (totally serious)
Because of that I vote Lee.

Indeed he was Flashbug ;)

Also,i consider Lee to be the foreunner/originator of modern day aerobics- he was incorporating musical rhythms into his training and using it familiarize himself with aspects of fluidity and broken rhytm in combat.

MatchesMalone
05-11-2005, 01:22 PM
Capoeira had more to do with that

;)

Batcrazy
05-11-2005, 06:01 PM
Just saying the words "Chinese Samurai" makes me want to punch something.

Don't get me started on the inaccuracies of Dragon, I will not stop for a week.

That wa not a Samurai and neither was intended to be. :rolleyes:

Batcrazy
05-11-2005, 06:02 PM
Yeah, you have a good point. How about Batman vs. Bruce Lee's character from Enter the Dragon?(whatever his name was)


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Batcrazy
05-11-2005, 06:10 PM
Capoeira had more to do with that

;)


Yeah and Capoeira is sure at leas a couple of centuries older than Lee too..

gregtestagent
05-11-2005, 06:16 PM
If anyone has seen the Game of Death (the footage that Lee completed while he was still alive) I am positive that Batman could not defeat Lee. Even if he did he would be half-dead or near death himself. Lee is just too fast, strong, agile, flexible, coordinated, dextrous, and tough.

AnavelGato86
05-11-2005, 08:12 PM
In my experience with Jeet Kune Do (wich is a great fighting style by the way) Batman could easily take him (in the DC universe anyway) , I think he knows it himself, or is at least very familiar with it. I always thought it used that or ju jistu due to the amount of street fighting he's had to do.

Jeet Kune Do tends to counter more than use primary attacks. Much like Ju Jistu it waits for your apponent to **** up then you get to **** him up. JKD is all about speed and "broken rythem"

Please mods, someone close these VS threads....or just start sending goatse

MatchesMalone
05-11-2005, 08:37 PM
That wa not a Samurai and neither was intended to be. :rolleyes:

Wow...just...wow. Go look at a pic of Feudal Samurai battle dress, and get back to me.

EDIT - nevermind, I did it:

Dragon:
http://www.wvip.co.uk/images/dvd/DragonTheBruceLeeStory/DragonTheBruceLeeStory_2.jpg

Samurai:

http://www.baylug.org/ninja/img/Gunner2.jpg

Hmm....

Yeah and Capoeira is sure at leas a couple of centuries older than Lee too..

To clarify, I meant capoeira was an influence for Sijo Lee, not vice versa.

Batcrazy
05-11-2005, 09:54 PM
That's not a samurai. It may look similar, but if you look closer, specially at the part where little Bruce is passing by the statues in the beginning of the movie, and the one you're calling a samurai is there too, you can see the differences more clearly.

About the capoeira, I thought you meant it was a influence for todays cardio fighting systems, like tae-bo etc. Which is also true.
I was actually agreeing with you there.

MatchesMalone
05-11-2005, 10:48 PM
Dude. It was a Samurai. Whether the filmmakers even knew or not, the battle armor worn by that actor in that scene was samurai-inspired. Even down to the scales on the shoulder guards and tunic.

silentflute
05-12-2005, 10:14 AM
Sad thing is that the masses have been conned into thinking that Dragon was an accurate biopic.The only part of that film that was true was the scene where the Raymond Chow character tells Lee Iin reference to Lee still wanting to be a star in the West)-" you want their love, our love is not good enough for you "

Draggin:The Linda Lee Story.Damn shame.

gregtestagent
05-12-2005, 12:30 PM
Sad thing is that the masses have been conned into thinking that Dragon was an accurate biopic.The only part of that film that was true was the scene where the Raymond Chow character tells Lee Iin reference to Lee still wanting to be a star in the West)-" you want their love, our love is not good enough for you "

Draggin:The Linda Lee Story.Damn shame.
I know enough about Mr. Lee to see the differences between this movie and his life but I still enjoyed the movie.

silentflute
05-12-2005, 02:23 PM
I know enough about Mr. Lee to see the differences between this movie and his life but I still enjoyed the movie.

It was an entertaining film, and Jason Scott Lee's performance was passionate.

As far is it resembling Lee's life....uhm,no.

If they ever get around to making a Shang Chi film,Jason would be perfect casting though.

raybia
05-12-2005, 03:59 PM
I know enough about Mr. Lee to see the differences between this movie and his life but I still enjoyed the movie.

I agree. It was the best Bruce Lee film not actually featuring Bruce himself.

mano012sg
02-02-2006, 03:56 AM
Dear Diamond Head, You are Flawed in writing that Bruce Lee wasnt a real athlete. He could side kick waay more than 300lbs, of a heavy bag. At Martial arts competitions (where he gave demonstrations) he easily grappelled the leading world champion of one of the styles (Dan Inosanto) down. After his encounter with Wong Jack Man, He became powerful enough that they needed to reinforce his training equipment with machine parts. So mind what you are saying.

Will Bruce Lee win Mhd Ali in a Boxing only match? Yes. Not because of prejudice here. Truthfully, Bruce could send a heavy bag moving with a punch. The toughest fellows who faced Muhammed Ali, Like "powerhouses" like george foreman could make Great Dents in 200lb heavy bags. Dents <<< to actually moving the Bag. Plus bruce had always retained Ali's movements and techniques, floating and stinging. As a result while he would be equal to Ali in combat movement and timing, Bruce would win Ali in two areas: the power at the point of contact & the reading of Ali's moves. Ali would only read the punches movement, But Lee sizes everything up beforehand, coz that's what wing chun teaches him.

On Bruce Lee vs Batman: Matched evenly...coz Bruce had a wealth of official training which evolved. Bat's is not an actual master in any of his skills...he was just extremely skilled that's it.

On Dragon: the Bruce Lee story, it was a made up presumptuous account of his story. Except for the implications of the locations in his life, the events were all fake. Jason-scott lee acts well as bruce lee, kudos for that!

gregtestagent
02-02-2006, 04:37 PM
And he kicked Chuck Norris's ass link (http://bruceleeownschuck.ytmnd.com/)

Spidey-Bat
02-02-2006, 04:55 PM
Bruce Lee trained Batman. Sensei and student do not fight.

And he kicked Chuck Norris's ass link (http://bruceleeownschuck.ytmnd.com/)

So now there is nothing keeping Chuck Norris from going rogue:(

Qoèlet
02-02-2006, 11:59 PM
Will Bruce Lee win Mhd Ali in a Boxing only match? Yes. Not because of prejudice here. Truthfully, Bruce could send a heavy bag moving with a punch. The toughest fellows who faced Muhammed Ali, Like "powerhouses" like george foreman could make Great Dents in 200lb heavy bags. Dents <<< to actually moving the Bag.
Err... woah. Heavy bags move pretty easily. They swing all the time when people punch them. Leaving a dent in one, on the other hand, is quite the accomplishment.
Anyway, it's a foregone conclusion that Batman would ruin anyone's ****, living or dead. He's the goddamn Batman! :batman:

Ronny Shade
02-03-2006, 12:22 PM
They would be evenly matched, but then Lee would mysteriously slip into a coma, and Batman would save his life.

eledoremassis02
02-03-2006, 06:03 PM
They would be evenly matched, but then Lee would mysteriously slip into a coma, and Batman would save his life.

So wrong in so many ways...

el sensei
02-04-2006, 12:40 PM
Bruce Lee would kick his ass so hard he will think he is Robin right after being raped by Batman

mano012sg
02-05-2006, 09:59 PM
Err... woah. Heavy bags move pretty easily. They swing all the time when people punch them. Leaving a dent in one, on the other hand, is quite the accomplishment.
Anyway, it's a foregone conclusion that Batman would ruin anyone's ****, living or dead. He's the goddamn Batman! :batman:

Yo man I see that You Lurve rebutting me and seeking me out. Heavy bags move pretty easily when people punch, or make it better kick them. To make a dent is accomplishment. True. Very True. when making a big dent is well making a dent and moving means it sways a little. I can do tat if i push the bag, knock it, throw my body to tackle it. But:

Then tell me can you kick a 300lb heavy bag to the ceiling, and stop it with another kickbefore it sways to you? Do that first ok. 300lbs= 150 kg. Do it, or at least punch it so that it actually swings well away from you. DO IT!!!

Professional Boxers can't even do that, for if they did their heavy bag will be much heavier so that the bag doesnt move. else it defeats the purpose of a Heavy bag understand? You are at best able to make a huge dent with a powerful sound. That's power, that came from george foreman. Dent equal daamge,true. but after your dent, when the bag flies! that Is what bruce lee was capable of. If you don't understand, go and read up the correct books and websites like "Search engine: 'Bruce lee: the philosophy of a human being'" first.

mano012sg
02-05-2006, 10:00 PM
Err... woah. Heavy bags move pretty easily. They swing all the time when people punch them. Leaving a dent in one, on the other hand, is quite the accomplishment.
Anyway, it's a foregone conclusion that Batman would ruin anyone's ****, living or dead. He's the goddamn Batman! :batman:

Yo man I see that You Lurve rebutting me and seeking me out. Heavy bags move pretty easily when people punch, or make it better kick them. To make a dent is accomplishment. True. Very True. when making a big dent is well making a dent and moving means it sways a little. I can do tat if i push the bag, knock it, throw my body to tackle it. But:

Then tell me can you kick a 300lb heavy bag to the ceiling, and stop it with another kickbefore it sways to you? Do that first ok. 300lbs= 150 kg. Do it, or at least punch it so that it actually swings well away from you. DO IT!!!

Professional Boxers can't even do that, for if they did their heavy bag will be much heavier so that the bag doesnt move. else it defeats the purpose of a Heavy bag understand? You are at best able to make a huge dent with a powerful sound. That's power, that came from george foreman. Dent equal daamge,true. but after your dent, when the bag flies! that Is what bruce lee was capable of. If you don't understand, go and read up the correct books and websites like "Search engine: 'Bruce lee: the philosophy of a human being'" first.

mano012sg
02-05-2006, 10:00 PM
Err... woah. Heavy bags move pretty easily. They swing all the time when people punch them. Leaving a dent in one, on the other hand, is quite the accomplishment.
Anyway, it's a foregone conclusion that Batman would ruin anyone's ****, living or dead. He's the goddamn Batman! :batman:

Yo man I see that You Lurve rebutting me and seeking me out. Heavy bags move pretty easily when people punch, or make it better kick them. To make a dent is accomplishment. True. Very True. when making a big dent is well making a dent and moving means it sways a little. I can do tat if i push the bag, knock it, throw my body to tackle it. But:

Then tell me can you kick a 300lb heavy bag to the ceiling, and stop it with another kickbefore it sways to you? Do that first ok. 300lbs= 150 kg. Do it, or at least punch it so that it actually swings well away from you. DO IT!!!

Professional Boxers can't even do that, for if they did their heavy bag will be much heavier so that the bag doesnt move. else it defeats the purpose of a Heavy bag understand? You are at best able to make a huge dent with a powerful sound. That's power, that came from george foreman. Dent equal daamge,true. but after your dent, when the bag flies! that Is what bruce lee was capable of. If you don't understand, go and read up the correct books and websites like "Search engine: 'Bruce lee: the philosophy of a human being'" first.

Mr. Socko
02-05-2006, 10:10 PM
Very hard decision. In a normal fight, Bruce Lee would win. With all those wonderful toys, Batman would win.

Qoèlet
02-06-2006, 09:10 PM
Then tell me can you kick a 300lb heavy bag to the ceiling, and stop it with another kickbefore it sways to you? Do that first ok. 300lbs= 150 kg. Do it, or at least punch it so that it actually swings well away from you. DO IT!!!

Odd: In your last post he was punching the bag. Now he's kicking it. Never mind that how hard Bruce Lee kicks has nothing to do with the point you were trying to make about how hard he could punch, maybe you could make up your mind: which is it?
In any case, you're basing this, I assume, on that single quotation on the website you made reference too. Well, here's the thing: we have an eye-witness account, given possibly several years after that fact, which provides few details. Never mind that, in hindsight, this fellow might very well be slipping into hyperbole. In actual footage of Lee training, which I unfortunately cannot provide here, you can see him kicking, for one, a pad held by another man, and then what appears to be the infamous heavy bag on his patio, as described by Mr. Jay described it. My first observation: the bag looks too small to be 300 pounds (perhaps Lee had more than one bag on his patio? Who knows?). My second: the footage consists of Lee going off-screen then running back to deliver a side kick. This is how he kicks, again and again. The bag certainly goes quite a ways but it damn well ought to when the guy is getting a running start before hitting it.

mano012sg
02-07-2006, 10:12 AM
In a ring with rules-absolutly.On the street, Lee would have slaughtered Ali.

He did in fact train to tapes of Ali to study his techniques.As far as speed,Lee was faster than Ali.
True Silent Flute, Bruce, as an Asian was a lot faster than a Western boxer. Given, Ali was a light-weight (not in terms of the weighting categories ok?) boxer compared to his pals, in his hey days, Bruce was more worried about if Ali made contact with him. He was commenting about Ali's hand size actually! But speed wise, not just was Bruce probably at least 1.5times faster, but fighting science wise, self-trained to read his opponent's intentions. Ali was a little inferior to Bruce in this respect, in that he relied on judging his opponent's punching range and speed. Yeah it takes hell of a lot of attention to detail, but ATTENTION lapsing was what Bruce used as a signal to launch his attacks. He demoed this in the Bob Wall scene in Enter the Dragon.

mano012sg
02-07-2006, 10:22 AM
Odd: In your last post he was punching the bag. Now he's kicking it. Never mind that how hard Bruce Lee kicks has nothing to do with the point you were trying to make about how hard he could punch, maybe you could make up your mind: which is it?
In any case, you're basing this, I assume, on that single quotation on the website you made reference too. Well, here's the thing: we have an eye-witness account, given possibly several years after that fact, which provides few details. Never mind that, in hindsight, this fellow might very well be slipping into hyperbole. In actual footage of Lee training, which I unfortunately cannot provide here, you can see him kicking, for one, a pad held by another man, and then what appears to be the infamous heavy bag on his patio, as described by Mr. Jay described it. My first observation: the bag looks too small to be 300 pounds (perhaps Lee had more than one bag on his patio? Who knows?). My second: the footage consists of Lee going off-screen then running back to deliver a side kick. This is how he kicks, again and again. The bag certainly goes quite a ways but it damn well ought to when the guy is getting a running start before hitting it.
Damn Right Qoetet, But that Video you saw from the beginning (i hope) 'The Intercepting Fist', did not use a 300lbs bag. If you look way later they show a mammoth brown bag, pointed out by Dan Inosanto. As for Bruce Lee's punching power, I am sure you've heard how a 200lbs (westerner) friend of his got shot up against the wall such tat the picture fell off. Do you know that, an unsuspecting visitor holding hte mitt got his shoulder dislocated by the force of Bruce's punch? ok you can rebutt me that the holder held the mitt wrongly, fine enough, but Bruce Lee would have spotted an error in holding the mitt and pointed it out to him, since Bruce is a teacher (very observant one) and given his character. But many of his friends agree that He never went all out on them, always controlled his blows on people. He only went all out on his equipment, which had to be continually reinforced. I am not sure George Foreman faced that problem on his training equipment.

mano012sg
10-12-2006, 11:41 PM
Its balnace.
And freaking hell...if a bloddy animal's powers are measured in terms of their own body measurements, shouldn't comic batman break some human limits and follow that scheme of thought? probably maxing at 5 times his body weight in terms of strength or 10 times of per second of his height (60 km/h sprint) in terms of speed. That's not too fast for a peak comic athelete, a fluffy ostrich can run faster. without combining speed and strength about with skill alone about 3x more powerful than bruce Lee.

Boy, He'll be able to --
Lift: 600 kg @ 120kg body wt
Hold: 60 kg flat out like it were a tea cup for almost as long (so you can imagine him shaking the daylights out of 180 kg men with one hand)
Run: 40km/h (faster than any human world sprint record)
Sprint: 60-70 km/h (>1.5 x faster than human sprinter, about as fast and graceful as a deer or rhino)
Endure: a knock in the gut of 3 ton pressure or an endurance of 300 kg like it he were its support (trained exercise + mastery of Iron Body Chi Kung techniques from Qigong, Tai Chi, Kung Fu and Ninjitsu -- 4 of 127 martial arts he learnt).
Reflexes: ~ 300 ft/sec (95 km/h) with pin point accuracy, not counting putting the full body into the action.
Jump: 20 ft into the air ; Dive/Glide: 30 ft forward
Leap a diagonal distance of 20 - 25 ft with a run up launch.

*These are all possible human- superhuman feats accomplished up to 75-80% by martial artists, 'feats' men etc...* I am extrapolating from facts that were just as close (Bruce lee could kick 10 ft in the air...its known that he leapt 8 feet to kick a light bulb. around the time of 'enter the dragon' it had increased to 10 feet) so compared to that Batman is a lucky westener with more power and more lifelong training and instruction than bruce lee, so inching up a little to jumping at 20 feet, for bruce, I don't think would be a problem for him and him alone.

By the way this isn't a fantasy that I HOPE batman to have. it is a caluculation that I EXPECT ( interms of "he jolly well have") Batman to meet or exceed.

MulligaN Stew
10-14-2006, 06:44 AM
On a neutral site, no utlitity belt, no weapons, no cape. Just mano e mano.

Seriously. These are both advocates of peace. They wouldn't fight.

Have you ever watched a Lee film? Does he ever throw the first punch?

Batman wouldn't harm a stranger for a pointless reason, nor would he engage a random individual.

Although, if you put them in a room with one remote. . . . . then your thread makes sense.

Carry on.
http://idata.over-blog.com/0/08/30/45/rocky-balboa/youngnow.jpg
I got Bruce Lee in three rounds. . . nuttin' to it. Bats just ain't ready for it. His fancy gadgets can't help him; he won't see it comin'!!! Lee's a weapon of his own design. No frills!!!

I got Bruce Lee as the champ and he's watchin' Monday Night Football!!! The fight never would've happened if Batman hadn't tried to watch Lifetime. . . big mistake.

MulligaN Stew
10-14-2006, 06:46 AM
Oh, yes and to add some much needed perspective to the thread:

COMIC BOOK CHARACTER!!!!


LEGENDARY MARTIAL ARTS STAR WHO CREATED HIS OWN FLUID STYLE!!!!

You may continue with your lithium induced comparisons. Your welcome.