Joker Casting Threads [merged-30]

[mongo44]

http://til.metro.co.uk/img/pix/ray_liotta80.jpg???????

[mongo44]

I know everyone is going Glover, Roth, or Law and I'm fine with all those choices, but I now have Jason Lee on my list for choices. Mine is a bit quirky. Steve Bushimi is also on my list.

One hang-up I think I have had in the past as many on this board, is either physical type and/or laugh. I think the laugh we all either have in our head much like the way a person looks in our minds eye when you talk to them on the phone. Physical type I have a problem with on a personal level. I'm a former performer/comedian/actor. So I take issue when a director tells me, "you gave a good performance, but your not what I have in my mind." I then see what they have in their mind when the show is up and running and the "type" sucks. I have actually had directors confess that they should have gone with me instead. The exception to the rule though is gender or race specific parts.

I would rather whomever gets the part of the Joker just be a great performer.

[mongo44]

Getting away from “who I think should play the joker” for just a moment.

Mainly due to Murphy’s Law regarding ideas and dream scenarios, is anyone else finding themselves looking for options? What I mean is I have gotten into the show Medium in reruns. I caught it this past Monday. The actor (didn’t catch his name) playing the serial killer kept making me visualize him with green hair. I guess I’ve been doing this based on Nolan’s record of utilizing good performers as opposed to names for the most part. Insomnia was an exception but he got great performances from those name actors.

So now I see a promo for Two and a half men thinking, “Jon Cryer would make a good Joker.” I rented Garden State, “Zack would be a unusual choice...” I can’t stop!

[Alfie Luke]

Holy crap...
I just thought of someone. He's 6' 1'' and about 34 years old... he's somewhat 'skinny' and he's crazy for sure. Before saying who it is, I'd like to remind everyone to try to have an open mind and to stay calm, this could hurt quite a bit...

Johnny Knoxville

[happy]

paul bettany. i loved his rendition of chaucer in A Knight's Tale.

[FreeBeerForAll]

Are you kidding?

no, no i'm not.

[BK]

Paul Bettany looks like crap! I think Jude Law should be Joker because Joker is charming in a sadistic way.
In what way is joker charming??

And I disagree, I think Bettany looks great for the role. Tall, lanky, has great facial features....

[carphalen5150]

One person I thought of was John Cusack. He has the perfect facial structure for it, but I would be very concerned that he could not capture the voice. He is a good actor IMO though.

[DDRSkata]

I saw Gangster No. 1 last week and I think Paul Bettany is a great choice.

[DDRSkata]

One person I thought of was John Cusack. He has the perfect facial structure for it, but I would be very concerned that he could not capture the voice. He is a good actor IMO though.

I thought of him for Harvey Dent.

[NOFX]

I saw Gangster No. 1 last week and I think Paul Bettany is a great choice.
Im gonna have to rent that. Are there any good joker like poses in Gangster number 1???

[DDRSkata]

Im gonna have to rent that. Are there any good joker like poses in Gangster number 1???

A few. Caps of them have already been posted somewhere around here.

[theBat-Man]

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/abusdecine/festivals/deauville2001/CrispinGloverBartleby.jpg
Crispin Glover.

[The Kid]

this has to stop. do you SERIOUSLY want the joker to sound like a complete bittch like glover?

It's like picking arnold swartzeneggar for hellboy.

[jtsteward]

Willem DaFoe!! :joker: :joker: :joker:

I will keep posting until people stop postong stupid picks to be the Joker. It is getting annoying. Not anyone can do this role so STOP putting STUPID A** choices on the board morons!

http://img143.exs.cx/img143/8994/jokerdafoe3ko.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/DafoeJokerb.jpg

[Mike_D]

Hes the green goblin...Nolan wont even look in Dafoe's direction. :o

[Asr]

John Glover! What do the rest of you think? He's the kick-ass Lionel on Smallville! :up:

http://www.thewb.com/THEWB/Images/Dynamic/i23/SM-JGlover-A_2x3_240.jpg

http://www.sw_biografias.blogger.com.br/John%20G-Bio.JPG

[JackBauer24]

I'm still hoping for Weaving.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/JackBauer24/joker5.bmp

[TimDrake64x]

god all this is stupid, u people who are just posting pictures up here and think thats going to sway peoples minds are idiots, lord i quite these threads, thanx morons

[oregondude]

god all this is stupid, u people who are just posting pictures up here and think thats going to sway peoples minds are idiots, lord i quite these threads, thanx morons

lol. funniest thing on the boards yet. well besides when I put thwip in his place

[Mister Sinister]

IMDB have a Joker casting poll up.

[Alfie Luke]

John Glover already played in Batman... Batman & Robin to be precise.
He was Doctor Jason Woodrue, plus he did the Riddler's voice in Batman: Gotham Knights... that's according to what I just read.

[oregondude]

John Glover already played in Batman... Batman & Robin to be precise.
He was Doctor Jason Woodrue, plus he did the Riddler's voice in Batman: Gotham Knights... that's according to what I just read.

Never heard of that Cartoon, when was it on?

[SwordOfRas617]

IMDB have a Joker casting poll up.

link please

[Mister Sinister]

www.imdb.com

[Detective Flass]

Tim Roth is in sixth.

Mark Hamill and Alan Cumming aren't candidates, So Roth is the fourth most popular candidate after Glover, Bettany, and Depp.

[Mr. Socko]

I'd like to see Crispin Glover, Depp, or Nick Stahl

[Matis17]

At this point, I think Paul Bettany is the best bet for Joker. He's very talented, has the height, has the face (with just a little prostetic work), he's british (not a requirement but it seems to help when looking at the casting thus far) and is close to the same age as Bale. He isn't and A-lister but he is a rising star of sorts. I'm betting on this horse.

[Man-Thing]

http://www.thisisthelakedistrict.co.uk/_images/db/11/36/paul.113610.full.jpg
http://www.art-dept.com/artists/roy/portfolio/editorial/images/Paul-Bettany-001.jpg
http://www.tiscali.cz/ente/images/5/9/7/5/597504.jpg

Someone with mad skilz should do a manip.

[Man-Thing]

whoops didn't see the sticky.

[Mr. Socko]

he better grow some more hair

[NOFX]

At this point, I think Paul Bettany is the best bet for Joker. He's very talented, has the height, has the face (with just a little prostetic work), he's british (not a requirement but it seems to help when looking at the casting thus far) and is close to the same age as Bale. He isn't and A-lister but he is a rising star of sorts. I'm betting on this horse.
Even though I am a Law-Man, I have to agree with you. :o

[mongo44]

At this point, I think Paul Bettany is the best bet for Joker. He's very talented, has the height, has the face (with just a little prostetic work), he's british (not a requirement but it seems to help when looking at the casting thus far) and is close to the same age as Bale. He isn't and A-lister but he is a rising star of sorts. I'm betting on this horse.

I agree as well, especially since he isn't an a-list actor. With an a-list you get a preconceived idea. Bale wasn't an a-list so as far as I was concerned going into BB he had to work his tail off to be a conviencing character.

FYI, I'm sure someone has suggested Adrien Brody by now right? He may not have the ideal look. But I think substance is better than a look.

[theBat-Man]

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/abusdecine/festivals/deauville2001/CrispinGloverBartleby.jpg
Crispin Glover.

[The Last Meatbag]

NO god damn Crispin Glover

[raybia]

http://www.famousdudes.com/pics/MatthewMcconaghy/matthewmcconaghy2.jpg

Matthew Mcconaghy as the JOKER!?

[Oldguy]

Naw he looks too much like Jodie Foster.

http://images.google.ca/images?q=tbn:8s57MlZR0x0J:www.celebrity-exchange.com/celebs/photos33/jodie-foster-3.jpg (http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.celebrity-exchange.com/celebs/photos33/jodie-foster-3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.celebrity-exchange.com/links/pages/Female_Celebrities/J/Jodie_Foster/&h=672&w=631&sz=59&tbnid=8s57MlZR0x0J:&tbnh=136&tbnw=127&hl=en&start=20&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djodie%2Bfoster%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den %26lr%3D%26sa%3DG)

[raybia]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/regwec/Jokerhatcopy.gif

[arcangel]

I don't know if anyone ha suggested this, but how about Dennis Quaid as the joker? He's a fine actor and I think he would be able to pull it off. only problem is he's getting a little old and doesn't have the look alot of you guys are looking for, but then again niether did Jack.


But my first choice is DelToro.

[Mike_D]

Nnaww, he should replace harrison ford as Indiana Jones though...I definately see that.

[oregondude]

http://www.famousdudes.com/pics/MatthewMcconaghy/matthewmcconaghy2.jpg

Matthew Mcconaghy as the JOKER!?

Actually he should have been Daredevil

[Dark Knight]

Penn, Depp, Roth, or Bettany.......and thats it.....no one else should be considered dammit! LOL.... :joker:

[mcflytrap]

go to www.paulbettany.net ...check out the screen caps from "gangster no.1" and do a manip from there..much better, more sinister looking pictures

bettany's my #1 choice

[mcflytrap]

here's a good one

a good manip would look sweet in this setting :)

http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/gangster/caps/021.jpg

[spanish39]

WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE SUCH A HARD ON FOR CRISPIN GLOVER?

The guy sucks at acting, how many times do we all have to go thru this? He would be a horrible Joker and would not fit in with the all star casting that goes on. Hell, if he did get the role it would be his biggest yet and he has beeen around for like 25 years, truly sad......McFLY!

[Dark Knight]

WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE SUCH A HARD ON FOR CRISPIN GLOVER?

The guy sucks at acting, how many times do we all have to go thru this? He would be a horrible Joker and would not fit in with the all star casting that goes on. Hell, if he did get the role it would be his biggest yet and he has beeen around for like 25 years, truly sad......McFLY!


yeah i agree now. No McFly as the Joker......he can't hold Penn, Roths, Bettany or Depps jock strap when it comes to acting chops, charisma, intensity, and star power. No Glover as Joker.....sorry guys. :joker:

[Oldguy]

I'm going to watch willurd today. then i'll see what's hard. I know Glover can do wimpy (killing joke) pre-accident Joker. I'll tell you tho, I don't have a hard on for any pretty boy (Law, Depp, Bethaney, Penn f**k off, midgets need not apply) Jokers. I would like to see a freak get the role. So what if Glover's been around for 25 years without a major impact on show buisness. Bale isn't much different in that regard, check out his filmography, it took him almost 20 years to become a household name.

[spanish39]

I'm going to watch willurd today. then i'll see what's hard. I know Glover can do wimpy (killing joke) pre-accident Joker. I'll tell you tho, I don't have a hard on for any pretty boy (Law, Depp, Bethaney, Penn f**k off, midgets need not apply) Jokers. I would like to see a freak get the role. So what if Glover's been around for 25 years without a major impact on show buisness. Bale isn't much different in that regard, check out his filmography, it took him almost 20 years to become a household name.

While maybe your point on Bale is relevant you have to keep in mind that ALL of Bale's work has been critcly acclaimed and he has done Spielberg and now Nolan as well. People knew him it's just now he is Batman and he is very deserving of being a household name cause his work has been great thus far and he should have been one YEARS ago. If you want you could say the same thing about Johnny Depp. I watched Depp films YEARS ago and I love just a bout everyone especially "Fear & Loathing", though, he wasn't a household name until "Pirates". We are talking about Crispin Glover here thoug man, NONE of his films besides "Back to the Future" were even popular, and that was not even his film in any way. Barley anybody knows he was in a "Friday the 13th" film and "Charlie's Angles" was just a horrible film, except for the T&A aspect of course. Who would agree to make "Willard"......I mean really......the guy just does pretty much whatever comes his way anymore, there is not thinking involved in his script selection I bet.

The man is kinda old anyways and I would hate having to deal with seeing Crispin's ugly face all over the Batman merchandise with my beloved favorite psycho villian Joker. He just dosen't do it for me and most of the people who like him are far and few between except on these boards and in his cult following fan club and that's about it and who knows how many people here are part of that cult following fan club of his. They really are the only thing keeping his name out there.

[spanish39]

This poll is kinda weak here fellas......why don't you start a new one with REAL actors and ligitamate choice. So far the only REAL choices are Hulme, Law, Cassell, Ecelstone, and Bettany. The rest are either no where near The Joker ala Depp and del Torro 2 of my favorite actors as well as Brodi, or they are too old like Buscemi, Dafoe (BAD CHOICE) and Hamill who only has the voice down. Also just flat out bad choices like Tutoro and Jim Carrey, Carrey really what the f***, and no one really cares for Bruce Spence. Matty McCongheyheyhey is not a great choice by any means and that goes for Matty Modine as well, and don't even give me the Nicholson crap anymore cause it's really so over with.

Most people who either look the part cause they are skinny little guys or people who can act the part simply because they have done psycho's well in the past is no means to cast THIS role of The Joker. No one really comes close to what it takes correctly. Hollywood will fill in what THEY think it takes but none of us will be happy anyway. To truly cast the clown you need someone who looks and acts like The Joker in every way and guess what, that guy has probably never even been heard of cause he is an unknown. An unknown will bring the character to you without interuption from who is playing him.

There are a couple of choices here but the poll should be re-done with different less known names. Peter Sarsgard is a good example of that.

[Matis17]

(Law, Depp, Bethaney, Penn f**k off, midgets need not apply) Not a single one of those actors are short. Hell Bettany is taller than Glover.

[happy]

why the obsession with age? why shouldn't the joker be a bit older than bale? his age is never really a given.

[The Kid]

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/abusdecine/festivals/deauville2001/CrispinGloverBartleby.jpg Crispin Glover.


no crispin, you'rw not going to get the role. Please stop posting your picture, log off, and go make another clowny clown clown video. lol... :)

[Mike_D]

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/batman/newcrispjoker.jpg

Crispen Glover.

[BatmanRules33]

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/abusdecine/festivals/deauville2001/CrispinGloverBartleby.jpg
Crispin Glover.


forget this guy and jude law. they both would suck as joker. oh and now way in hell would nolan cast them. to well known. and nolan wants more unknownish guys, so there. thats proof your dreamsn will never come true, so stop whining bout jude and crispin, they suck anyways.:up: :)

[NOFX]

forget this guy and jude law. they both would suck as joker. oh and now way in hell would nolan cast them. to well known. and nolan wants more unknownish guys, so there. thats proof your dreamsn will never come true, so stop whining bout jude and crispin, they suck anyways.:up: :)
How dare you put Law and Crispin in the same sentence!!! :mad: How many Oscar Nominations does Crispin have??? Zero!!! How many for Law 2!!! Nolan would never cast Law??? Right Nolan doesnt cast English oscar calibar actors like Liam Neeson, and Micheal Caine :rolleyes:

[Matis17]

Crispin Glover? Too well known?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!

[NOFX]

Crispin Glover? Too well known?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!
Lol. Exactly :cool:

[The Last Meatbag]

Crispin Glover sucks

[BatmanRules33]

Crispin Glover sucks

thank you.

and DOWN WITH LAW. why even say that, hes not gonna be joker:)

[The Last Meatbag]

Crispin Glover doesnt have the chops to play the part

[Oldguy]

Not a single one of those actors are short. Hell Bettany is taller than Glover.

I was only refering to Penn, who looks a lot shorter than he is at 5'10" because of his enormous head.

[Batty for Bats!]

here's a good one

a good manip would look sweet in this setting :)

http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/gangster/caps/021.jpg
something about him just makes me want to see what my lunch looks like after half way digested.

[Detective Flass]

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/batman/newcrispjoker.jpg

Crispen Glover.

If you can't even spell his name right, don't ****ing bother supporting him. :up:

[Mike_D]

Krispen Glover :o

[Detective Flass]

Crispin Glover, dickwad! :o

[Dark Knight]

why do some of you not like Penn as Joker?? The man is a helluva an actor....

[GongaMan]

I like Cassel and Glover. I did this tonight, my first attempt at photoshop. Let me know what you think.

http://myspace-453.vo.llnwd.net/00157/35/46/157336453_l.jpg

[Matis17]

Awsome manip. If he can restrain the french accent, I have no objection to Cassel getting the part.

[Batty for Bats!]

Lol, am I the only one that still wants Hulme as the Joker? Oh well, since I'm a poser and like to run with the popular crowd, I guess I erm......(whoever posts the person's name first, i'll vote for them until i die. first come first serve)

[Detective Flass]

Tim Roth!

[The Last Meatbag]

Better than Glover

[greenlantern530]

Willem DaFoe!! :joker: :joker: :joker:

I will keep posting until people stop postong stupid picks to be the Joker. It is getting annoying. Not anyone can do this role so STOP putting STUPID A** choices on the board morons!

http://img143.exs.cx/img143/8994/jokerdafoe3ko.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/DafoeJokerb.jpg

hmmmmm....

[Matis17]

hmmmmm....Hmmmmm.... He's already played a major villain in a popular superhero movie.

[spanish39]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6093896#post6093896
Other Joker stuff from here that we have been talking over, maybe it can be helpful or at least fun to skim thru.

HAPPY, Age is important because the last guy was like almost 50, or wait, was JAck 50 yet? Either way he was OLD, too old for The Joker. We don't want this time around and besides this is a younger take on the whole thing, the whole franchise. No one over 30 or 35 really.

NOFX, since when has an Oscar measured what a person can do as an actor? Oscar's are worth as much as a Grammy, and f*** a grammy lmao. Seriously award and award shows are completly irelivant and meaningless as far as what a persons talent is. But yes Jude is much better at the skill of acting than Krispy Glovelove.

DARK KNIGHT, Penn is just too dam old and I can't bare to see Spicoli as THe Joker. He is ok as an actor but he has that Sean Penn quality that would take awa from the Joker ala Nicholson. You see the actor first than the character, it should not be that way. Also, IMO, he is too old, geriatric Joker ya know?

BATTY FOR BATS, I agree with you , though I am no poser and neither should you be......wait did that come out right? DONT BE A POSER DAMNIT! Its bad for your health. Here is my Hulme interpretation.
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL234/2069988/4014502/74011103.jpg

[theBat-Man]

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/batman/newcrispjoker.jpg
Crispin Glover:joker:

[my0pic_spidey]

Lolx Haha!! i read an article somewhere crispin was questioned after the show why he did what he did to letterman and his response was "what a crazy thing to do!"

[bbb]

I'll say give kevin bacon a chance


check this pic out http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2787/Events/2787/KevinBacon_Pimen_4261508_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Bacon,%20Kevin (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2787/Events/2787/KevinBacon_Pimen_4261508_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Bacon,%20Kevin)

[The Kid]

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0327056/C55-12.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Bacon,%20Kevin&seq=62

Which one will Nolan Chooooooooose?????:p

[mongo44]

Just a couple new ones to throw out (and a bit risky). But I think all three have solid track records. None have played anything like the Joker, but I believe all three have the range to accomplish it.
http://www.jpwsfc.org/pageils/Unte241.JPG

Peter Sarsgaard

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/cms/2004/other/Zach_Braff_-_rs_964965_People_of_the_Year.6764991.jpg

Zach Braff

http://www.dunas.com/entertainers/johnmcg7.jpg

John McGinley

Just throwing out some new ideas

[BatmanRules33]

Just a couple new ones to throw out (and a bit risky). But I think all three have solid track records. None have played anything like the Joker, but I believe all three have the range to accomplish it.
http://www.jpwsfc.org/pageils/Unte241.JPG

Peter Sarsgaard

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/cms/2004/other/Zach_Braff_-_rs_964965_People_of_the_Year.6764991.jpg

Zach Braff

http://www.dunas.com/entertainers/johnmcg7.jpg

John McGinley

Just throwing out some new ideas

why must ppl on here pick random actors off the net and say they could play joker? stupid......none of these could do joker, let alone will they get the part, GOD!

[mongo44]

why must ppl on here pick random actors off the net and say they could play joker? stupid......none of these could do joker, let alone will they get the part, GOD!

I totally disagree 100% with your reply. I did not pick them “randomly off the net” nor do I agree with your criticism due to their skills. All three are solid performers and (more importantly solid actors). They have mild similarities to Joker at best. Give me a great actor with prosthetics to play the part of Joker over some hack like Jim Carrey any day.



As far as “why must ppl...” this is called the “Joker Casting Thread” so individuals such as myself will “post” in such a thread. But I am swayed by your rational and well thought out logic, so I will not continue to post my opinion about possible Joker choices and yield to the hundreds of suggestions that Law, Glover, or whoever is the favorite in this thread should be cast instead. (YAWN)


Like Nolan is hiding under some user name going, “gee whiz, I never thought about casting Tim Roth as the Joker. Maybe I should go with what the fans want. Thank you fanboy gods!”

[spanish39]

I disagree as well Batman Rules, Zach Braff has a good acting ability, maybe not for Joker but still, he is much better than Glovlove and actually Sarsgard has been recomended by myself and others as a possible candidate. John C. McGinley, ehh, he has had some good roles like in "Highway", not someone I would pick but still.

Don't be mad if people throw out some names because thats what everyone on here does and sometimes it draws attention to things we look for but may have overlooked on some people. Keep an open mind and don't assume things about fellow posters like he is just grabbing names off of google or imdb or something cause you know what that means when you assume.

[BatmanRules33]

well it certianly seems like it! so ya cant blame me! and also, i just dont like any of the "casting" ppl are doing on here, i have not seen one likely good canidate or joker IMHO, most of the ppl on here are probly doing this for fun, but if you guys are being serious, then nah, havent seen any good ppl for joker yet, nor do i recognize half the actors on here, so in short no, still waiting for that perfect guy i can say should be joker. thats all. dont mean to be an ass.

[Detective Flass]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6093896#post6093896
Other Joker stuff from here that we have been talking over, maybe it can be helpful or at least fun to skim thru.

HAPPY, Age is important because the last guy was like almost 50, or wait, was JAck 50 yet? Either way he was OLD, too old for The Joker. We don't want this time around and besides this is a younger take on the whole thing, the whole franchise. No one over 30 or 35 really.

That's very retarded. IMO, The Joker should be under 45, anything over that is too old. I've always pictured The Joker in his late 30's early, 40's. It's stupid you cut out the best actors of the bunch (Depp, Penn, and Roth), and think awful actors like Crispin Glover and Lachy Hulme a suitable.

[Detective Flass]

Like Nolan is hiding under some user name going, “gee whiz, I never thought about casting Tim Roth as the Joker. Maybe I should go with what the fans want. Thank you fanboy gods!”

I take it you've never been to batman-on-film.com? David Goyer said, and I quote: "I know in the case of Batman, a lot of the people at Warner Bros. were paying attention to this website called BATMAN ON FILM. And they were paying attention to it quite a bit."

How do you think an unknown actor like Bale got casted? Come on. Fans at BOF Posted over and over they wanted Liam Neeson for Ras Al Ghul and Christian Bale for Batman. They listen over there. That's why Crispin Glover, Tim Roth, and Paul Bettany are candidates.

[The Kid]

I'm no Glover groupie, but having just watched williard again after so long, He can more than nail the creepy weirdo aspect of joker, but the LAUGH. he just ain't got the LAUGH. I wish he'd LAUGH enough in one of his film to sell himself to me, but the most he's ever done is giggle.

crap...

[mongo44]

well it certianly seems like it! so ya cant blame me! and also, i just dont like any of the "casting" ppl are doing on here, i have not seen one likely good canidate or joker IMHO, most of the ppl on here are probly doing this for fun, but if you guys are being serious, then nah, havent seen any good ppl for joker yet, nor do i recognize half the actors on here, so in short no, still waiting for that perfect guy i can say should be joker. thats all. dont mean to be an ass.

It's cool. I'm really hoping for someone like Bale (relatively obscure to the masses) to be cast anyway. One common concept/opinion from a majority on these boards that I agree with is “it’s not about whose cast for the villains”.

[NOFX]

NOFX, since when has an Oscar measured what a person can do as an actor? Oscar's are worth as much as a Grammy, and f*** a grammy lmao. Seriously award and award shows are completly irelivant and meaningless as far as what a persons talent is. But yes Jude is much better at the skill of acting than Krispy Glovelove.

Simply saying that Nolan isnt shy for casting Oscar Calibar actors. Robin Williams, Al Pachino, Hilary Swank, Ken Watnabe, Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, Michael Caine, and Tom Wilkinson are all oscar calibar actors in Nolans movies. So It woudlnt be much of a stretch if he did cast an Oscar calibar actor for the Joker. I actually think its the most logical move Nolan would do in casting the Joker.

[mongo44]

I take it you've never been to batman-on-film.com? David Goyer said, and I quote: "I know in the case of Batman, a lot of the people at Warner Bros. were paying attention to this website called BATMAN ON FILM. And they were paying attention to it quite a bit."

How do you think an unknown actor like Bale got casted? Come on. Fans at BOF Posted over and over they wanted Liam Neeson for Ras Al Ghul and Christian Bale for Batman. They listen over there. That's why Crispin Glover, Tim Roth, and Paul Bettany are candidates.

Nope never been on the site. Didn't even know about it till now. But it does sound like (and I hate to burst your bubble) that Goyer is just being polite and doing some fanboy PR.

Usually casting ideas come up during the film treatment by the writers. Usually in the context of “The Joker appears (think Jude Law or Jim Carrey)...” It’s usually the story pitch that sets the tone for how casting could go. Then the person writing the check, Ex. Producer, starts checking into budget to find the parameters or limitations, “We got $250 mill to spend, Carrey wants $25 mil a picture and Law wants $5 mill.” Then the casting director gets involved along with the director. Who can they work with or who would they like to see, “Law is a good choice, but I was thinking more along the lines of ...”. Usually when more than two ideas are out there they will hold screen tests or auditions. In some cases with costume pieces or manips. In the case of BB I think Nolan will get final say without a lot of debate from producers or WB. He proved himself with this film.


Honestly, I think an unknown like Bale was probably cast more for his acting chops than for any fan support. I knew nothing of him until he was cast. Well,...let me rephrase that,...I couldn't place his face with his name. In other words "name recognition". Once I saw what he had been in prior I still needed to find a picture of him. Because he wasn't a "star" prior to BB, he was an actor. BB will make him a star. (To witness the definition of "star" watch "My Favorite Year" w/ Peter O'Toole, ironically would make the perfect Joker if he was still 20-30.)

(I edited this a little because it sounded like I was being a little too harsh towards you and that’s not my intent.)

[Dark Knight]

I take it you've never been to batman-on-film.com? David Goyer said, and I quote: "I know in the case of Batman, a lot of the people at Warner Bros. were paying attention to this website called BATMAN ON FILM. And they were paying attention to it quite a bit."

How do you think an unknown actor like Bale got casted? Come on. Fans at BOF Posted over and over they wanted Liam Neeson for Ras Al Ghul and Christian Bale for Batman. They listen over there. That's why Crispin Glover, Tim Roth, and Paul Bettany are candidates.


Exactly....and also about Oldman being in a Batman film. Alot of us fans wanted Oldman as Ra's or Scarecrow originally and we ended up getting him to be in a Bat film regardless. Awesome! Neeson was perfect as Ra's! I remember the top fan choices for Ra's was Neeson, Day-Lewis, Oldman, and Viggo.

[Dark Knight]

Simply saying that Nolan isnt shy for casting Oscar Calibar actors. Robin Williams, Al Pachino, Hilary Swank, Ken Watnabe, Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, Michael Caine, and Tom Wilkinson are all oscar calibar actors in Nolans movies. So It woudlnt be much of a stretch if he did cast an Oscar calibar actor for the Joker. I actually think its the most logical move Nolan would do in casting the Joker.


Exactly. Thats why I'm thinking Penn. Penn would bring great intensity, and big time wicked seriousness to the Joker......I like Depp, but in the back of my mind....Depp may try and be too much fun and not maniacal enough as Joker. Roth would bring something to the role also......Bettany is just to bland right now.....we need an actor who people will want to flock to the theater to see.....Penn would bring it all.

[mongo44]

Well, all I can say is if it’s true then I think it’s cool. But I’m not holding my breath that casting decisions are based on discussions on message boards for the most part. (Other wise the Hornets would still be in Charlotte, NC under the ownership of Larry Bird or Michael Jordan).

[mongo44]

.....we need an actor who people will want to flock to the theater to see.....Penn would bring it all.

I disagree respectfully, I think people will flock to it if the Joker is in the movie despite who plays him.



I use as my rational for that a AFI pole a few years back, 100 Heroes & Villains list. I found many aspects of it fascinating. Attikus Finch was the #1 hero in movies (a father). Star Wars had multiple listings, Darth #3 for Empire, Han #14 for Hope, Obi Wan for Hope #37. One element I found that struck me as unique was the combination mentions. Movies that a hero ranked and so did the villain there were only six: Silence of the Lambs, Schindler's List, It’s a Wonderful Life, and Batman (89). Superman mentioned but not Lex. Bond mentioned but not Dr. No. Darth Vader was on the list but not Luke.



Batman (Michael Keaton) was # 46 and Joker (Nicholson) #45 (ironically Batman dropped a spot behind Zoro at #45, the inspiration for the character). So from that list itself it shows that Batman vs. Joker is considered one of the top rivalries in cinema. It has to happen in this franchise. And I think it will have to happen in the next.


The other rational would be Revenge of the Sith as an example. Other than seeing Darth’s transformation I think the big draw was the showdown between him and Obi Wan.

[NOFX]

I disagree respectfully, I think people will flock to it if the Joker is in the movie despite who plays him.



I agree. it doesnt matter if its a big star and unknown actor, what matters if he's the right actor and if he can pull it off. I could care less if he was an unknown or a big star. I think thats irrelavant.

[mongo44]

I agree. it doesnt matter if its a big star and unknown actor, what matters if he's the right actor and if he can pull it off. I could care less if he was an unknown or a big star. I think thats irrelavant.

That is how I feel as well. I’m confident that Nolan will pick a good actor. I like everything he has done so far and his casts do a phenomenal job in his movies. I don’t think I will be disappointed with whoever he picks to play the Joker.

[Mike_D]

maybe we should hold off all the debates for a little while and just have fun with it...we probably wont hear anything for a few months anyways, right?

[The Last Meatbag]

Check the avvy :)

[BatmanRules33]

Check the avvy :)

niiiiiiiiiice, lol!!:cool:

[Matis17]

Just got back from Wedding Crashers. Joker Perhaps? (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/1479/Events/1479/BradleyCoo_Ausse_538161_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Cooper,%20Bradley)

[darknight7]

Ladies and Gentlemen...

It's all about

*BEN FOSTER*:)

--dk7

[BatmanRules33]

Just got back from Wedding Crashers. Joker Perhaps? (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/1479/Events/1479/BradleyCoo_Ausse_538161_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Cooper,%20Bradley)

noooooooooooooooooo.

[Matis17]

noooooooooooooooooo.I dissagree.

[Detective Flass]

Check the avvy :)


Best....avatar....ever! :joker:

ROTH DAMMIT!

[NOFX]

Just got back from Wedding Crashers. Joker Perhaps? (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/1479/Events/1479/BradleyCoo_Ausse_538161_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Cooper,%20Bradley)
Hmmmm thats very interesting. Plus the Wedding Crashers is made by the WB!!! :eek:

[BatmanRules33]

I dissagree.

of course you disagree, you mentioned it. duh.:rolleyes:

[carphalen5150]

I hope like hell that Glover does not get this role. He does not have the personality to pull it off. The Joker is the biggest "larger than life" superhero villian, so casting him just because he could be made to look Joker-like is horrible. While Nicholson did such a great job as Joker, it was his dialogue and mannerisms that won me over, far more than the appearance. I have seen no reason that Glover could elevate his game to where I could take him seriously in the role.

[Matis17]

of course you disagree, you mentioned it. duh.:rolleyes:Because I rule.

[greenlantern530]

Hmmmmm.... He's already played a major villain in a popular superhero movie.

Yeah...and he's too old.

[The Last Meatbag]

I hope like hell that Glover does not get this role. He does not have the personality to pull it off. The Joker is the biggest "larger than life" superhero villian, so casting him just because he could be made to look Joker-like is horrible. While Nicholson did such a great job as Joker, it was his dialogue and mannerisms that won me over, far more than the appearance. I have seen no reason that Glover could elevate his game to where I could take him seriously in the role.


I completely agree with this guy :up:

[Oldguy]

I hope like hell that Glover does not get this role. He does not have the personality to pull it off. The Joker is the biggest "larger than life" superhero villian, so casting him just because he could be made to look Joker-like is horrible. While Nicholson did such a great job as Joker, it was his dialogue and mannerisms that won me over, far more than the appearance. I have seen no reason that Glover could elevate his game to where I could take him seriously in the role.

I just watched Willurd yesterday, and I'm on the fence. He had good emotional control, he could go from timid, to angry, then gleeful in a believable fashion, for a lunatic anyways. One crying scene he even managed to get a huge wad of snot worked up. Glover really got into it. He portrayed a love triangle with two other rats, that's not an easy feat. As far as appearance goes, his resemblance to the Joker is remarkable. I realize this isn't a look a like contest, but it is a comic book adaptation, so it does count for something. Glover is an effective stage fighter, as the Angel movies demonstrated, hell I didn't even know it was Mcfly when I was watching those movies. If Nolan/Goyer go with a Killing Joke origin scenario, I have total confidence in Glover's pre-accident Joker. But, in his Joker portrayal? In order to pull that off he'll have to lose the insecure shrill tone he would get when he'd get angry in Willurd. Joker is secure in his insanity, he doesn't lack confidence in his actions, or his beliefs, even when he's gettin the crap beat out of him. If Glover can lose that insecure undertone, there's no reason why he couldn't pull it off. If Glover, Bethany or Law got the part I'd be happy.

[The Kid]

yeah, I just watched willard this morning and I'm firmly on the fence with him as well. He can take it to 11, but whether he can do it JOKER style, I don't know... damnit.

[Oldguy]

Heh, I know what you mean. I was watching it, hoping for a maniacle laugh or something, but Willurd was just too subdued too justify Jokery-behavior. Good job at a freeky candy-assed mama's boy though.

[darknight7]

Check the avvy :)

Hahahaha BEST AVVY :up:

--dk7

[Dark Knight]

I disagree respectfully, I think people will flock to it if the Joker is in the movie despite who plays him.



I use as my rational for that a AFI pole a few years back, 100 Heroes & Villains list. I found many aspects of it fascinating. Attikus Finch was the #1 hero in movies (a father). Star Wars had multiple listings, Darth #3 for Empire, Han #14 for Hope, Obi Wan for Hope #37. One element I found that struck me as unique was the combination mentions. Movies that a hero ranked and so did the villain there were only six: Silence of the Lambs, Schindler's List, It’s a Wonderful Life, and Batman (89). Superman mentioned but not Lex. Bond mentioned but not Dr. No. Darth Vader was on the list but not Luke.



Batman (Michael Keaton) was # 46 and Joker (Nicholson) #45 (ironically Batman dropped a spot behind Zoro at #45, the inspiration for the character). So from that list itself it shows that Batman vs. Joker is considered one of the top rivalries in cinema. It has to happen in this franchise. And I think it will have to happen in the next.


The other rational would be Revenge of the Sith as an example. Other than seeing Darth’s transformation I think the big draw was the showdown between him and Obi Wan.


i agree...people will flock to see it regardless.....but how many more people will be that more excited and pumped if they heard Sean Penn as The Joker?

[Dark Knight]

I disagree respectfully, I think people will flock to it if the Joker is in the movie despite who plays him.



I use as my rational for that a AFI pole a few years back, 100 Heroes & Villains list. I found many aspects of it fascinating. Attikus Finch was the #1 hero in movies (a father). Star Wars had multiple listings, Darth #3 for Empire, Han #14 for Hope, Obi Wan for Hope #37. One element I found that struck me as unique was the combination mentions. Movies that a hero ranked and so did the villain there were only six: Silence of the Lambs, Schindler's List, It’s a Wonderful Life, and Batman (89). Superman mentioned but not Lex. Bond mentioned but not Dr. No. Darth Vader was on the list but not Luke.



Batman (Michael Keaton) was # 46 and Joker (Nicholson) #45 (ironically Batman dropped a spot behind Zoro at #45, the inspiration for the character). So from that list itself it shows that Batman vs. Joker is considered one of the top rivalries in cinema. It has to happen in this franchise. And I think it will have to happen in the next.


The other rational would be Revenge of the Sith as an example. Other than seeing Darth’s transformation I think the big draw was the showdown between him and Obi Wan.


i agree...people will flock to see it regardless.....but how many more people will be that more excited and pumped if they heard Sean Penn as The Joker? Compared to Crispin Glover or Paul Bettany??

[TheBatSignal]

DARK KNIGHT, Penn is just too dam old and I can't bare to see Spicoli as THe Joker. He is ok as an actor but he has that Sean Penn quality that would take awa from the Joker ala Nicholson. You see the actor first than the character, it should not be that way. Also, IMO, he is too old, geriatric Joker ya know?


Penn isn't my top choice,in my top 3,but in his defense rent The Assassination of Richard Nixon.The movie stars Penn as a man slipping into insanity and planning to kill Richard Nixon.You will not even think of Spicoli during this and towards the end,you can imagine him as the Joker(Due to his actions).Penn's character isn't Joker per say,but as the film progresses he gets more crazy and just strange.Even if the movie doesn't convince you it's still worth the rent.Good flick.

http://assassinationrichardnixon.com/nixon.html

[BatmanRules33]

Because I rule.

i fart on you.:joker:

[Dark Knight]

i don't think Penn is too old.....has the Jokers age ever been etsablished? Don't think so.....and also.....Penn would be under makeup and perhaps prosthetics. Also how can one say Penn will take way from what the Joker is supposed to be because people will see Penn and not the Joker?? That doesn't make sense....the same could have been said about Neeson as Ra's, Caine as Alfred, Oldman as Gordon, Freeman as Fox......so that argument about Penn face and popularity taking away from what the Joker is all about...is not valid.

[an orange sky]

Crispin Glover is my first choice and certainly who I'd love to see take on the role.

Every single argument I've seen for or against him in other places seems to ride on his performance in the Charlie's Angels films (which I have never seen) or Willard (which I hadn't seen until about a month ago.) There's a fairly long list of movies he's been in with roles that have a similar spirit to what I think he'd have to capture in order to fit in with the new series. He might not have a lot of mainstream credibility because of the occasional role that seems to be more for superficial reasons than anything else or be particularly well-known because some of his best work is not widely available. I was not originally drawn to him for the Joker, but I did have the pleasure of seeing his film What Is It? and meeting him, and I think it'd work out for the best. Even if he doesn't quite have the "perfect laugh" or whatever it is people are nitpicking about, he seems to be fairly passionate about whatever it is he does. I would have assume that if he got the role of the Joker, he would not give a half-hearted performance based on principle and would make it his own while still in the vein of what people are looking for.

Though I wouldn't be too terribly offended if Bettany got the role either. I think he was superb in A Beautiful Mind and Dogville.

[darknight7]

stop ignoring me:p...and go watch HOSTAGE...

You will all convert to...

BEN FOSTER!

As annoying as I may seem...it is so true guys, he is TOP NOTCH CHOICE...he natually looks like the Joker...he even makes faces like Joker TAS... and he is such a creep that u wanna put on a cape and cowl and kick his ass...TUST ME...im a HUGE LONG TIME BATMAN FAN LIKE ALL OF YOU GUYS...and I know this guy is GRADE "A" MATERIAL...

--dk7

[spanish39]

That's very retarded. IMO, The Joker should be under 45, anything over that is too old. I've always pictured The Joker in his late 30's early, 40's. It's stupid you cut out the best actors of the bunch (Depp, Penn, and Roth), and think awful actors like Crispin Glover and Lachy Hulme a suitable.

I don't want a geriatric Joker ala Nicholson so oh well and call it whatever you want even if YOU think it's retarded. Personaly Depp is my favorite actor of all time of you read that before on this very thread, but I don't think he has The CORRECT Joker, especially after watching Wonka tonight. A good Joker, sure, like Nicholson, but not the RIGHT Joker.

and also, when the hell IN ANY OF MY POSTS did you ever see that I approved of Krispy Lovegove? NOT ONE OF THEM, I'm not riled up or anything but, damn you if you think I support Crispin Glover cause I never will. I do agree with Batman rules that none of these people are honestly suitable though, there is an unknown outthere who needs to be discovered to be Joker. These people are GREAT actors, but just not Joker enough.

[Spidey-Bat]

That's very retarded. IMO, The Joker should be under 45, anything over that is too old. I've always pictured The Joker in his late 30's early, 40's. It's stupid you cut out the best actors of the bunch (Depp, Penn, and Roth), and think awful actors like Crispin Glover and Lachy Hulme a suitable.

They're awful because you don't like them right? That's VERY retarded :rolleyes:

[spanish39]

Guy's Spicolli is too damn old to be Joker. Maybe Joker's age has never been established but damn, he is obvioulsy not old enough to have creases in his face. Hell, in the current comics it's only been 12 years since Killing Joke and he was probably only like 22 or 24, which in turn would only make him like34 or 36 an I'm sorry but Penn just looks old now. Think younger than Penn, hell, Bale is younger than Penn and Joker and Batman are at least around the same age bracket. At least the same decade as one another ya know.

[my0pic_spidey]

the thing about getting an unknown actor to play the joker is influential on the outcome of the show.Im not sure if they are willing to take that risk

[theBat-Man]

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/batman/newcrispjoker.jpg
Hmm, who should be cast as Joker? Oh, I know!
Crispin Glover:joker:

[Detective Flass]

They're awful because you don't like them right? That's VERY retarded :rolleyes:

You're an ignorant idiot who has no life and points out my posts and makes fun of them because he doesn't have any friends to spend time with.

Read my post over and hopefully you'll be able to understand it.

[Spidey-Bat]

You're an ignorant idiot who has no life and points out my posts and makes fun of them because he doesn't have any friends to spend time with.

Read my post over and hopefully you'll be able to understand it.

way to resort to a personal attack in an argument. That really sends your point home :up:

I only need to read your post once. Your only argument for saying Hulme or Crisipin are "horrible" is because they are not in many movies. That doesn't make them bad. They could be very good actors for all you know, they're just not as famous as Penn or Roth. If you want Roth for Joker, that's fine. I agree he would be a very good choice. But there is no need for you to degrade other people's choices for Joker to make yours seem superior.

BTW, all my friends left for camp after school, that's why I've been here a lot. Most are returning this week.

[Detective Flass]

That's not the only reason I'm attacking Crispin Glover and Lachy Hulme. They're bad actors. Go watch Willard, he's a whiney little ***** in it. Lachy Hulme could barely get parts in the Matrix sequels!

And what about all the times you personally attacked me because of my opinion? For some reason those aren't included in your post. :rolleyes:

[Spidey-Bat]

That's not the only reason I'm attacking Crispin Glover and Lachy Hulme. They're bad actors. Go watch Willard, he's a whiney little ***** in it. Lachy Hulme could barely get parts in the Matrix sequels!

And what about all the times you personally attacked me because of my opinion? For some reason those aren't included in your post. :rolleyes:

That's how his character was supposed to behave. And Hulme was in the Matrix sequels for like 5 min total which are both bad movies. You shouldn't judge his acting in 2 bad movies in which he was just a minor character.

To my memory, I never personally attacked you because of your opinion. Prove me wrong. Show me a post of mine where I did and I'll gladly admit I'm wrong and you're right.

[Keyser Soze]

I'd say that, on both sides, we should be more civil. Flass, I like you. You've backed me up a lot of times, and I'm grateful for your support. But you can be overly defensive of your views, leading to quite harsh attacks on those who disagree with you. But at the same time, there are people who are just as bad on the other side of the argument, and there are times when you are provoked into arguments.

I think a message that needs to be put across to everyone is that we should be more civil. Surely we can discuss our opinions and support our potential candidates in a civil manner, without letting things get personal.

I like a good debate, hence me enjoying posts where I show why I think Tim Roth would be a better Joker than Crispin Glover. And I enjoy reading posts by people like Venomfang. While I completely disagree with most of what he says, he puts across his points in an intelligent manner for the most part, and he doesn't insult people.

So, yes, you can all have your own views. You are free to like you you want, and hate who you want. But can we please try backing up our points, and putting them across in a respectful manner? And that goes for everyone.

[The Last Meatbag]

Im going to go barf



















:)

[The Kid]

*passes candy, cookies, teddy beers and apple pie around thread*

[Keyser Soze]

Okay, okay. From now on I'll stick to "tim roth is teh sex n00b oMg he pwns da glover lol u r stoopid oMg lol oMg!!!!!!!!!!!!"

No, wait, this isn't the Spider-Man boards...

[spanish39]

For real Flass, just cause Hulme was a VERY minor character in 2 bad Matrix films dosen't mean a thing. You have NO IDEA what his acting is like or who he even really is. Maybe go rent some other films of his. The films may not be great but again, that doesn't mean he is a bad actor. Crispin is Crispin and thats really al you can say. He is ok as an actor thats why he is still around all these years. I would personally never choose him for my Joker though. Justrelax man and don't go freaking out all over the boards over an opinion, it makes you look bad and insults don't really help either.

IN OTHER NEWS, I truly believe Roth is pushing age and it shows in his face as well. He is too over the top with his acting. Take 'Dogs' for example. I realize the guy was dying and all but damn man he was just annoying as he was dying lmao. He is a great actor but he can over dramatize some situations. Another example is from a film he did with John Goodman, name escapes me, but he is being interogated and he is just not acting good in the entire scene. I like Roth but again not as Joker. "Tim Roth is the sex noob" huh? lmao Keyser-Freddie.

I really am tiring of all the Crispin Glover as Joker posts when thats all they have to say. That and how all he can be backed up with is that he somewhat resembles Joker and he was crazy in 'Willard'. If he was never in 'Willard' and it starred someone else would ALL of you be still be saying this or would you be recomending whoever COULD have been in that film? How many of you would have even spent the money or the time to watch that horrible film if had been someone other than Glover? Honestly now, I'm really curious for an answer to this one.

[ROMAragorn]

How about Jason Isaacs?
:up:

http://miqque.50megs.com/images/LEG/isaacs-jason.jpg

[Spidey-Bat]

He plays good villians, but he plays sleezy. I don't think he could pull off psychotic.

[Detective Flass]

Spidey-Bat, I'm willing to cause a truce if you'd like. To end our little argument.

[FreeBeerForAll]

I like a good debate, hence me enjoying posts where I show why I think Tim Roth would be a better Joker than Crispin Glover. And I enjoy reading posts by people like Venomfang. While I completely disagree with most of what he says, he puts across his points in an intelligent manner for the most part, and he doesn't insult people.



I'm gonna have to disagree with that, is he not the guy that says "if you don't think crispin glover would make a good joker than you obviously don't like the joker and know nothing about him." or something along those lines?

[Keyser Soze]

Yes, some of his points are utterly bonkers. but at least he gives plenty og evidence to back up his points. And he doesn't personally insult people when defending what he feels is right.

I just wish he'd stop showing that goddamn picture...

[Spidey-Bat]

Spidey-Bat, I'm willing to cause a truce if you'd like. To end our little argument.

Ok

I'm typing more because I couldn't just type ok

[Triad]

How about Jason Isaacs?
:up:

http://miqque.50megs.com/images/LEG/isaacs-jason.jpg
He may be better suited to play Two-Face IMO. Good villian/actor, BTW!

[VenomFang]

Crispin Glover as Joker = Bliss

[MrP3118]

http://204.176.141.20/images/mcronald.jpg
The crazy, sadistic, maniac Joker




http://www.mcdonalds.com.br/ronald_turma/imagens/imgTurma.jpg
His crazy, sadistic, maniac henchmen

[sassycat]

:eek:AHHHHHHH!!!! :eek: *crouches in the corner and cries*:(

[paec_djinn]

I picked Johnny Depp caused I've seen alot of his movie and he's got the ability to play just about any about any role he's given well. He's got a lot of versatility and I'm sure he's got the potention to play the Joker.

[Mr. Socko]

If Depp cuts his hair them yeah, he would probably be able to do it. I also see Crispin Glover as The Joker.

[MrP3118]

http://www.mcdonalds.co.nz/images/community/charities/charities_banner_ronald.jpghttp://www.ensenadahoy.com/mcdonalds/multimedia/ronald-mono.gifhttp://weblog.greenpeace.org/ge/archives/ronaldarrest3.jpg
Joker finally caught by gothom police

[DrVenkman90]

he was framed by The Hamburgler!!!

[The Kid]

Depp Dammit.

[Boom]

Yanno, I'm really coming around for Depp.

[DrVenkman90]

does anyone know how to get a custom avatar

[Mr. Socko]

You guys are really convincing me on J Depp as The Joker. Too bad all the manips of him suck

[DrVenkman90]

i like hamill and will anyone tell me how to get a custom avatar

[Boom]

You guys are really convincing me on J Depp as The Joker. Too bad all the manips of him suck
Ouch.

[Boom]

i like hamill and will anyone tell me how to get a custom avatar
On the top of the window there is a tool bar with several options:

"User CP FAQ Member List Calendar etc etc"

Click "User CP."

You will then be taken to your personal profile. On the left hand side, there's a column titled "Control Panel." Under the "Settings and Options" section, there is a link titled "Edit Avatar." Click that.

You are then given the options to either:
A)Upload your avatar from another site.
B)Upload your avatar from your Computer.

Remember, because you have less than 5000 posts, your avatar cannot be larger than 50x50 pixels.

[DrVenkman90]

thanks

[DrVenkman90]

do you like it

[Boom]

Not bad :up:.

[DrVenkman90]

how do i get it to move

[Boom]

how do i get it to move
You have to get an animation program.


Or you could make a request in the Fan Art Forum.

[ROMAragorn]

He may be better suited to play Two-Face IMO. Good villian/actor, BTW!

For Two-Face I would pick Edward Norton or Liev Schreiber. :D


http://www.edward-norton.org/images/25th/enclose.jpghttp://www.lievschreiber.org/images_xyz/misc/liev_polo1.jpg

I young Viggo Mortensen would alsohave made a good 2-face.

However I personally prefer Edward Norton for 2-face and as I said before Jason Isaacs for the Joker

[Detective Flass]

No. Edward Norton for the Riddler.

And Tim Roth for The Joker.

[Mr. Socko]

how do i get it to move

here's a site with some great 50x50 moving Batman avatars

http://www.thebatcave8k.com/Batman_DKR_Wallpapers_Avatars.htm

scroll to the bottom

[spanish39]

Liev and Issac would be good choices for Dent really, not bad by any menas and I would be convinced by both, though there are many others as well I can't think of right now lol.

Anyway DEPP is my fav, yadayadayada, as I have said MILLIONS of time, though, he dosen't seem like CORRECT person to play The Joker. A good choice on look and acting for sure, just not the right guy ya know. Besides, his acting has gotten more commercial unfortunatly after Pirates, which sucks cause this guy had a HUGE range. Bale and Depp are neck and neck as far as their skill to be someone else though Bale may have a lsight advantage cause he is so good and more distinguished. I jjust think Johnny is a cool guy with great views on Hollywood, acting, and the world and FEAR & LOATRHING is the best film ever, RIP Hunter.

NOW, Depp is over 40 or is 40 now. He is too famous and COMPLETLY takes away from the character. You always be thinking Johnny Depp no matter what instead of Joker ala Nicholson and that just sucks. Joker is bigger and more famous than my beloved actor Johnny could ever hope to be, plain and simple truth, so Johnny would never work as The Joker.

I do have 3 names though that just kind of poped into my noggin yesterday for some strange reason and I have though of them before but forgot till yesterday. OK, how about, oh and in no real order by the way, ok,

-Robert Carlyle
Trainspotting , Formula 51 , Bond: World is... , Full Monty
http://www.snurrfilm.no/people/R/RobertCarlyle.jpg
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Robert+Carlyle/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=12boh7nab/EXP=1121708510/*-http%3A//film.onet.pl/_i/news/duze/r/robert_carlyle_4.jpg
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Robert+Carlyle/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=14df0mqbb/EXP=1121709209/*-http%3A//us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/usa_films/plunkett___macleane/robert_carlyle/pm.jpg
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Robert+Carlyle/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=12c39mjm9/EXP=1121708409/*-http%3A//www.alternativehollywood.de/bilder/carlyle_wr.jpg

-Rhys Ifans (would alos probably be a good Riddler)
Little Nicky , Formula 51 , The Replacements , Notting Hill
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Close_Up/Players/1999/10/29/rhysifans.jpg
http://images.killermovies.com/f/formula51/gallery/rhys_ifans_iki.jpg
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Rhys+Ifans/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=1299cush2/EXP=1121708590/*-http%3A//www.kinoweb.de/film99/YouAreDead/pix/yad-8.jpg
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Rhys+Ifans/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=12fuodhc0/EXP=1121708806/*-http%3A//www.mycardiff.net/images/celebs&gossip/rhys3.jpg

-Timothy Olyphant (probably better for Dent actually but still)
Girl Next Door , GO , Dreamcather , A Man Apart
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Timothy+Olyphant/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=11q490j2t/EXP=1121708890/*-http%3A//www.chud.com/graphics5/oly4.jpg
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Timothy+Olyphant/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=12a4s08mu/EXP=1121708962/*-http%3A//www.videomax.ro/Images/actors/1085_a_normal.jpg
http://www.100freewallpapers.com/celebrities/timolyphant.jpg

[spanish39]

There will be more that I think of, but for noe these guys are all I can think of. This guys is what I mean by thinking outside the box.

Forget Depp, Penn, Glover, Brodie, Buscemi, Williams, Hamill, Del Toro, Carrey, Weaving......

We need good actors foreign or not I guess as long as they do good, though, I highly disapprove of a foreigner playing my Joker cause he himself is not foriegn in any way at all. Guffard from Fantastic 4 did a damn great voice job as Reed though and he is heavy in his real accent so......just think OUTSIDE the box (i.e. these guys up here or Sarsgard or Cassell or Hulme or Bettany and so......)

[Mr. Socko]

I don't want another crony crazy Riddler. But a serious Riddler like in TAS.

[DAN1987]

Names so far to be heard floating around Warner Bros, and suppodly some people have made manips of these actors as The Joker. Screentests are set to be taking place at the end of the year:

Sean Penn
Paul Bettany
Crispin Glover
Tim Roth
Lachy Hulme

[Detective Flass]

****ing Roth Dammit!

[spanish39]

Sean Penn will never be Joker, PERIOD. He is old and politicly challenged and also he has a face like a mall charicter artist. All weird and square looking and his voice is always funny and his age is showing in the creases of his face, not to mention his squinty little eyes.

Tim Roth is known for over-dramatization, WAY over.

Glover......well Glover is just Glover now isn't he and thats all you can say about that really. His acting is not so up to par and you can't give the role to a guy based off of hi nose and chin alone. Everyhtin about screams "NOT JOKER!"

PaulBettany dosen't really look like Joker but has the acting ability, dosen't really say Joker with his voice or faceial expressions or demeanor.

Lachy Hulme could pull off the look, he has the hair, he is THE ONLY real official choice so far by WB and Mr. Nolan and Goyer so far. Haven't heard him laugh, heard some of his accent from Matrix but not enough. Need to exclude Crocdile hunter and go see Lets get Skase for real decision maker, though he looks good here......

[spanish39]

What do you work for WB! Doubtful, you know as much as we do and don't get up fanboys hope here. I could say the exact same thing like anyone else. No one is nothing no where for any sequel yet, hold your horses.

Sean Penn will never be Joker, PERIOD. He is old and politicly challenged and also he has a face like a mall charicacher artist. All weird and square looking and his voice is always funny and his age is showing in the creases in his face, not to mention his squinty little eyes.

Tim Roth is known for over-dramatization, WAY over.

Glover......well Glover is just Glover now isn't he and thats all you can say about that really. His acting is not so up to par and you can't give the role to a guy based off of his nose and chin alone. Everyhthing about Glover screams "NOT JOKER!"

Paul Bettany dosen't really look like Joker but has the acting ability, dosen't really say Joker with his voice or facial expressions or demeanor.

Lachy Hulme could pull off the look, he has the hair, he is THE ONLY real official choice so far by WB and Mr. Nolan and Goyer so far. Haven't heard him laugh, heard some of his accent from Matrix but not enough. Need to exclude "Crocdile Hunter" and go see "Lets get Skase" for the real decision maker, though he looks good here......
http://ffmedia.ign.com/batman/image/lachy_hulme_1089249000.jpghttp://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL234/2069988/4014502/74011103.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

Tim Roth is still my top choice. I haven't really seen him be over-dramatic in anything except possibly "Planet Of The Apes". And even so - isn't The Joker highly dramatic?

But having said that, if those were the 5 put forward for screen-tests, I'd say it seems like a fairly strong list, with a mix of top choices.

[darknight7]

What do you work for WB! Doubtful, you know as much as we do and don't get up fanboys hope here. I could say the exact same thing like anyone else. No one is nothing no where for any sequel yet, hold your horses.

Sean Penn will never be Joker, PERIOD. He is old and politicly challenged and also he has a face like a mall charicacher artist. All weird and square looking and his voice is always funny and his age is showing in the creases in his face, not to mention his squinty little eyes.

Tim Roth is known for over-dramatization, WAY over.

Glover......well Glover is just Glover now isn't he and thats all you can say about that really. His acting is not so up to par and you can't give the role to a guy based off of his nose and chin alone. Everyhthing about Glover screams "NOT JOKER!"

Paul Bettany dosen't really look like Joker but has the acting ability, dosen't really say Joker with his voice or facial expressions or demeanor.

Lachy Hulme could pull off the look, he has the hair, he is THE ONLY real official choice so far by WB and Mr. Nolan and Goyer so far. Haven't heard him laugh, heard some of his accent from Matrix but not enough. Need to exclude "Crocdile Hunter" and go see "Lets get Skase" for the real decision maker, though he looks good here......
http://ffmedia.ign.com/batman/image/lachy_hulme_1089249000.jpg

I agree with you on all of what you have said. And I think Lachy Hulme is a very good choice for the role, he is a good age, looks right... looks like a good physical challenge for Bale as well. I don't know how his acting is though.

Spanish? whay do you think of BEN FOSTER!?

I think his only down fall is that he is slightly young looking...

--dk7

[Mike_D]

I dont see why everybody's ripping on Crispen Glover's acting skills. I don't think Lachy Hulme did ANY acting in "The Brown Bunny"...I don't think he needed to, if you catch my drift, which is why WB most likely won't let him be cast. He basically did a porno.

Lachy Hulme could pull off the look, he has the hair, he is THE ONLY real official choice so far by WB and Mr. Nolan and Goyer so far. Haven't heard him laugh, heard some of his accent from Matrix but not enough. Need to exclude "Crocdile Hunter" and go see "Lets get Skase" for the real decision maker, though he looks good here......

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL234/2069988/4014502/74011103.jpg

...thats a drawing, anybody characterized in pencil can look good OR bad. It's not about the look (although your doing a very good job down-sizing everybody's choices based on looks) but what the actor can bring to the role.

Crispen Glover is an artist. He takes everything he does seriously. The joker is over-dramatic, and if you've seen Crispen's performances then you'd know how far he can take the role. With Glover, we'll see a completely new Joker, nothing rehashed from Nicholson's days nor nothing rehashed from Mark Hamill's version. Crispen IS the Joker.

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/batman/newcrispjoker.jpg

The voting poles dont lie...Crispen Glover, dammit.

-Mike

[FreeBeerForAll]

I dont see why everybody's ripping on Crispen Glover's acting skills. I don't think Lachy Hulme did ANY acting in "The Brown Bunny"...I don't think he needed to, if you catch my drift, which is why WB most likely won't let him be cast. He basically did a porno.




-Mike

Thats because lachy hulme wasnt in the brown bunny, but Vincent Gallo was.

[SentinelMind]

to be honest, that picture of Glover has dissuaded me from endorsing him to be the Joker than anything. Joker doesn't look like a gothic guy staring into space.

I agree Johnny Depp would take too much attention away from the character. I'm all about hiring no-names where you think the actor became the character, not the other way around.

I don't remember Lachy Hulme from the Matrix sequels....what does he do in the movie?

Tim Roth can still pull it off in my opinion.

[BatmanRules33]

I don't remember Lachy Hulme from the Matrix sequels....what does he do in the movie?



he played "Sparks", that operator for the logos. he had no role in the movies, but if you ever played the "Enter the Matrix" videogame, he has a MUCH longer role in it.

[spanish39]

Joker is over dramatic but not to the same degree as Roth is in EVERY film. For films look back a few pages at one of my posts cause i gave 2 examples.

I'n not downsizing your choices by look, there are many other things beside that. I'm just stateing a very strong opinion on what I think of these people for this role. There IMHO not very good at all.your choices are your choices and yet I'm free to say what I feel about them and Joker.

Glover is a hack and he can only act enough to save his career. Sure he leads the pole cause besides the very few posters who actually comeback and reply all the time are not some of the random posters who just stated a quick opinion. Crispin is a quicky, he looks kinda similat to him and did williard and the creepy guy, big deal. He isn't Joker and he never will be, he's not good enough.

Maybe watch "Batman" '89, then "Willard", then go read some GOOD comics about Joker and Batman and go watch "Batman: The Animated Series", then pop in "Back to the Future II" and watch only McFly, than watch "Charlie's Angels 2", but only the parts with the creepy guy, now read the great comics out there, now go watch "Batman Begins" and lastly watch the dance from "Friday the 13th" and than maybe you will understand why Crispin Glover can't be The Joker when you you start to think about it now.

[spanish39]

double post for some reason, damn computer, lmao.

[NOFX]

Hey Spanish Jude Law is the Joker!!! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/Spidey-Boy523/joker.jpg

[Timstuff]

I must say I'm getting tired of that manip. :o

[NOFX]

I must say I'm getting tired of that manip. :o
I think thats the first time that manip has been posted on "THIS" thread. :o

[Timstuff]

I think thats the first time that manip has been posted on "THIS" thread. :o

No, I'm positive I've seen it several times earlier in this particular thread, although I don't dare sift through all the pages to find it.

[my0pic_spidey]

me too.its not like we can choose who we want to be the joker

[Detective Flass]

Roth can pull it off. It's sad IMO, that you'd rather trust a guy who's biggest part was in a sucky video game, then a professional Academy Award winning actor. Roth isn't over acting. He never over acts, he just chooses characters who are etecentric and crazy, and does the characters justice. Which is another reason I think he'd be perfect for The Joker. :up:

[DAN1987]

Tim Roth is the best choice out off all the names going around, but that's just my opinion, and we'll see who WB pick, next summer most likely.

[ROMAragorn]

Tim Roth is the best choice out off all the names going around, but that's just my opinion, and we'll see who WB pick, next summer most likely.

What?? Next SUMMER !!!!!????:eek:

Earlier I hope. And by the way Tim Roth is indeed another good choice for the Joker but if I had to choose i'd still say JASON ISAACS:o :up: :)

[Mike_D]

Maybe watch "Batman" '89, then "Willard", then go read some GOOD comics about Joker and Batman and go watch "Batman: The Animated Series", then pop in "Back to the Future II" and watch only McFly, than watch "Charlie's Angels 2", but only the parts with the creepy guy, now read the great comics out there, now go watch "Batman Begins" and lastly watch the dance from "Friday the 13th" and than maybe you will understanf why Crispin Glover can't be Willard.

sounds like a lot of work just to compare people who have already played the Joker to somebody who hasnt. :o and that role of him singing in "friday the 13th", was a ROLE. A CHARACTER. I don't degrade Tim Curry just because he played a transvestite in "Rocky Horror Picture Show".

-Mike

[Psycho Hulk]

Maybe watch "Batman" '89, then "Willard", then go read some GOOD comics about Joker and Batman and go watch "Batman: The Animated Series", then pop in "Back to the Future II" and watch only McFly, than watch "Charlie's Angels 2", but only the parts with the creepy guy, now read the great comics out there, now go watch "Batman Begins" and lastly watch the dance from "Friday the 13th" and than maybe you will understanf why Crispin Glover can't be Willard.

You mean why he can't be The Joker, right?

[Mike_D]

bwahha, i didnt catch that till now. I think he confused himself.

[Dark Knight]

Sean Penn will never be Joker, PERIOD. He is old and politicly challenged and also he has a face like a mall charicter artist. All weird and square looking and his voice is always funny and his age is showing in the creases of his face, not to mention his squinty little eyes.

Tim Roth is known for over-dramatization, WAY over.

Glover......well Glover is just Glover now isn't he and thats all you can say about that really. His acting is not so up to par and you can't give the role to a guy based off of hi nose and chin alone. Everyhtin about screams "NOT JOKER!"

PaulBettany dosen't really look like Joker but has the acting ability, dosen't really say Joker with his voice or faceial expressions or demeanor.

Lachy Hulme could pull off the look, he has the hair, he is THE ONLY real official choice so far by WB and Mr. Nolan and Goyer so far. Haven't heard him laugh, heard some of his accent from Matrix but not enough. Need to exclude Crocdile hunter and go see Lets get Skase for real decision maker, though he looks good here......


I disagree with you about Penn.....big time!

[Superman=Routh]

Actually Crispen Glover was not in Back To The Future Part II.

[spanish39]

Nah, Roth over-acts all the time, bottom line Flass. And I already justified myself on why Hulme is better, one reason is because he is less known bringing more to he Joker than to the actor. So what if the game sucks and the movies, he is a minor part in each. It in no way reflects Hulme or his acting ability.

What Mike D? I'm showing why Gover SHOULD not breJoker cause after watching all that you would get why he is so wrong for the part. Curry is or was a MAJOR cult actor after picture show. Glover is a MINOR cult actor after.....well nothing really, people just like that he is weird. There is a fine line beteen weird and crazy that Glover doesn't cross. He is creepy as a normal person and not great as an actor. Your comparison of Curry and Glover is a bad one cause Glover just dances all crazy like an ass in a low budget major horror film while Curry was the MAJOR character in his film doing a transvestite for a cult movie.

Pycho Hulk sorry, yeah, I meant Joker lol. I don't know why I put willard. I was just writting and I got ahead of myself. I just ranted that out quickly lol. But you guys get what I mean here. I'm not confused about the meaning. I'll change it so it makes sense though lol.

Dark Knight you are more than welcome to disagree with me, it's your given right to bro, but thats the way I see Penn. He's old news and this is a younger newer Batman. Penn would not do it for me and he looks like cartoony mall artwork.

Oh, and Ben Foster is out of the question cause he is Angel now in X3, though I don't rememebr seeing him in Wedding Crashers unless he was Wilson's girl's real fiance.

[Doc Holiday]

Hey every1 im new here but ive been a long time lurker of the boards and stuff just always more of an observer. but i finally felt compelled to register onto here. i know this is mostly joker manips but i had to put this up . i found it in 1 of the sequel manip threads some guy just posted it as a link and everybody i think kinda ignored it cus nobody even mentioned this one picture that IMO is possibly my favorite joker pic. for one his look here seems 2 me that much more real world look to him also a more modern looking joker that really looks like he fits perfectly into Nolan's world.
with no disrespect to the tall lanky skinny long toothed joker i too love and think itd b awesome to see i smply love this interpretation of the joker as one ive never seen before. plus whil not being too meaty this joker looks like a solution 2 the problem of a joker who has to fight Bats.
i hope the link works:
http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=28492&GSub=2723

[BK]

While quite nice...that's NOT the Joker from the comics the fans know and love for the past 60 years...

[Doc Holiday]

hey bk i know what u mean and and i agree with u. i am just thinking that nolan may be doing his own interpretation of the joker and wen i came across that pic i kinda felt like that joker looked like he would at least fit nolan's world.
but besides that casting wise im actually quite suprised that there are hardly that many adrien brody manips tho he doesnt hav many smiling pics. i dunno if hes my first choice but i think hes a great actor and has the joker physique to a T. Tho there are a handful of actors i would also like to see so im not really sold on any1

[Spidey-Bat]

I disagree with you about Penn.....big time!

You can't disagree that he's too old. He missed the boat to play Joker by 20 years :o

[Detective Flass]

Nah, Roth over-acts all the time, bottom line Flass. And I already justified myself on why Hulme is better, one reason is because he is less known bringing more to he Joker than to the actor. So what if the game sucks and the movies, he is a minor part in each. It in no way reflects Hulme or his acting ability.


But that's the thing, he can only get small parts like those. If he auditioned for a big name movie do you really think he'd get the part. I've seen Four Jacks and Let's Get Skase to try and convince myself he could play Joker, but the man cannot act!

As for Roth over-acting. Please watch Killing Emmet Young, and The Legend of 1900.

He's actually quiet and reserved in both films, and he played the lead in BOTH. He played the villain in KEY, and he still wasn't overacting. Go do your research, watch a good amount of his movies and maybe you'll actually hope Roth wins the part.

Oh and Spidey-Bat, you want a 26 year old Joker? ;) lol

[paranoidboy]

Bit of a different suggestion, has anybody contemplated Rhys Ifans?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northeast/guides/halloffame/showbiz/images/rhys_ifans200x135.jpg http://www.alternativehollywood.de/bilder/ifans10.jpg
http://www.alternativehollywood.de/bilder/ifans20.jpg

[JackBauer24]

Pretty lo-res I'm afraid but it's the best I could do.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/JackBauer24/joker5.bmp

[Dark Knight]

You can't disagree that he's too old. He missed the boat to play Joker by 20 years :o


nah....he's only 44? He doesn't even look that old. Plus he'll be in makeup most the time anyhow.....Nichsolson was what?? 55when he played Joker in 89. He did a great job......if anyone can upstage Jacks performance as Joker.....Sean Penn certainly can!

[darknight7]

HONESTLY!!! FOOK GLOVER AND FOOK LAW!!!...

...im sic of those names, i was a big supporter of GLOVER a while back, i remember thinking of him before even knowing about Batman Begins...

But now its just over done, and people are going way to crazy for this guy just becuz he has a pointy nose and chin

--dk7

[Psycho Hulk]

Pycho Hulk sorry, yeah, I meant Joker lol. I don't know why I put willard. I was just writting and I got ahead of myself. I just ranted that out quickly lol. But you guys get what I mean here. I'm not confused about the meaning. I'll change it so it makes sense though lol.


:), It happens! We all knew what you meant and so did I! It's all good...But I did agree with you on your post. I don't believe Glover can be Joker.

[The Last Meatbag]

He does not have the skills to pull off a role of such Magnitude. Also Goyer wants a big name actor.

[Mr. Socko]

It looks like everyone is aiming for an older Joker.

[Spidey-Bat]

nah....he's only 44? He doesn't even look that old. Plus he'll be in makeup most the time anyhow.....Nichsolson was what?? 55when he played Joker in 89. He did a great job......if anyone can upstage Jacks performance as Joker.....Sean Penn certainly can!

He's 44 now. By the time they'll be casting he'll be almost 46. If they're going to have Joker appear again, he'll probably be approaching 50. It's better off to go for an actor closer to Bale's age. Another problem if Penn is casted would be similar to B89. He'll be getting paid more and might steal some spotlight from Bale. Sure, Begins had Oldman, Alfred, and Freeman, but they were all supporting cast. They all had limited screen time. Joker will be the anagonist who needs decent amount of screen time for development. Penn is a good actor, but he doesn't fit the bill for playing Joker.

[FreeBeerForAll]

Bit of a different suggestion, has anybody contemplated Rhys Ifans?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northeast/guides/halloffame/showbiz/images/rhys_ifans200x135.jpg http://www.alternativehollywood.de/bilder/ifans10.jpg
http://www.alternativehollywood.de/bilder/ifans20.jpg

I think he would be another great choice, unfortunately he always seems to get passed over when mentioned.

[Psycho Hulk]

Hey guys...I just d/led Photoshop trial...I have never used it before till today really...this is like the 4th pic I have been practicing on...

It's my manip of Rhys Ifans as joker...I know I suck but I am also brand new at this...please go easy on me...if anyone has any good places to go for better tips...please, I need them...photoshop is a pain in the ass.

please go easy on me...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/DarkSion/okmanipcopy.jpg

[Darkmania]

Hmm, this maybe late in this thread to ask, however I am new to these boards....some of the people I went to see the movie with claimed after it was over that you get to see the Joker for a couple of seconds in BB....is this true? Most of them said it was at the hospital.

Thanks!

[NOFX]

No they lied to you darkmania. Only he's calling card is seen.

[Psycho Hulk]

NOFX, I tried hard to make an impressive Law=Joker manip...but I am just not ready for that yet...can't ruin a good thing.

[NOFX]

NOFX, I tried hard to make an impressive Law=Joker manip...but I am just not ready for that yet...can't ruin a good thing.
Good things happen to those who wait, so ill wait :D If its good enough, it will go on my avvy :cool:

[The Last Meatbag]

For suggestions guys just try to keep a bigger name star in mind

[Darkmania]

No they lied to you darkmania. Only he's calling card is seen.

Okay, great thanks!

[^natureboy^]

Woooooooo!
Seems that Crispin Glover leads a big one over Mark, Depp is next while the others are way too far.

[DrVenkman90]

Come on guys. Mark Hamill is the best guy for it. Crispin Glover could not talk like Joker.

[theBat-Man]

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/abusdecine/festivals/deauville2001/CrispinGloverBartleby.jpg
Crispin Glover!:joker:

[DrVenkman90]

no not at all man you got it backwards MARK HAMILL i mean the guy from Back to the Future i mean its a good movie but.......... Back to the Future think how he sounds in that he could never do the voice

[Spidey-Bat]

Come on guys. Mark Hamill is the best guy for it. Crispin Glover could not talk like Joker.

Hamill is a terrible casting. He's too old. The only thing he has going for him is the voice. Someone else might have a voice like his, and they deserve to get a chance.

[raybia]

I really don't know who I want at this point, but I do trust Nolan and know he'll pick the right person.

With that said, mark my words that it will be one of two people only.



Lachy Hulme or Paul Bettany



IT WILL NOT BE GLOVER!

[Detective Flass]

It looks like everyone is aiming for an older Joker.

Well yeah. An older Joker IMO is best. Do you really think some guy in his early 30's can be terrifying? No. There's something creepy about the older people. And, the actors who are older have more experience acting, and the majority of them are the best actors of a bunch (Penn, Roth, Depp, etc...)
I always pictured The Joker to be around 36-44 years old.

[JonO]

I really don't know who I want at this point, but I do trust Nolan and know he'll pick the right person.

With that said, mark my words that it will be one of two people only.



Lachy Hulme or Paul Bettany



IT WILL NOT BE GLOVER!

I hope and agree. I've lobbied for some other names (Brody, Theroux, Vaughn, Carrey, Eccleston) but I think either of these guys could pull it off.

No Crispin Glover!!! No Sean Penn!!! No Johnny Depp!!! No Jude Law!!! No Mark Hamill!!! No Willem Dafoe!!!

-JonO

[Sarge]

Am I the only one that thinks Sean Penn would SUCK as the Joker? I mean, first of all, he's way too big a name. Second, he looks nothing like the Joker. Third, I highly doubt he could pull off the role. He's a great actor, but certainly not the Joker.

[my0pic_spidey]

how do know for sure if crispin would not sound like the joker,just because he's stereotyped as a timid and sorry pathetic excuse for a human being doesn't mean he couldn't capture the voice part right.We all know he's perfect embodiment of the joker.To those who argue that his voice and timidness are a future shortcomings that's like passing a judgement pronto James Franco would not pull off the Goby's voice if you haven't even watched it yet:o

[The Last Meatbag]

Actually yes James Franco could, you're just a dumbass

[BigZDog]

What about Jack Black? He has the tools to be convincing as the Joker, and with his recent attempt at big budget drama, King Kong, he might make a good choice.
But in the end they will choose the best ACTOR, to play the part. The look can be achieved the SFX and Make-up depts. for anyone they choose.

[The Last Meatbag]

Hes too fat, also he doesnt seem like JOKER funny more stupid funny

[Spidey-Bat]

Well yeah. An older Joker IMO is best. Do you really think some guy in his early 30's can be terrifying? No.

Wrong Answer
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/Spidey-Boy523/Comic%20stuff/bbegins.jpg

[The Last Meatbag]

A young Joker can be scary, I mean he looks thirty-ish in the comics

[DorkyFresh]

I think this guy would make a great Joker....Craig Bierko..........he was awesome in Cinderella Man...

http://images.zap2it.com/ltvimages/images/shows/c/court/court_craigbierko_001.jpg
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/Arts/11/30/sbtst.bierko/story.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/the_thirteenth_floor/craig_bierko/floor2.jpg

[Doc Holiday]

WOW! Dorky Fresh i am kicking myself for not thinking of that guy...i guess prolly cus he is not an actor i follow but i did see Cinderella man and he was great in it in!

In fact there was this one shot that im remembering now in the ring where his hair is parted down the middle hanging over his eyes and he has this real wild look on his face. He played a real bastard and very scary at least in the ring id take a chance on Craig Bierko:up:

[Detective Flass]

Wrong Answer
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/Spidey-Boy523/Comic%20stuff/bbegins.jpg

Murderer wise.

[Spidey-Bat]

Have you ever watched any Law & Order or CSI episodes? There are guys who play 20 year olds and are creepy. Or even Crazy Joe Davola from Seinfeld. He was in his 30's and was creepy.

[Alonsovich]

Well yeah. An older Joker IMO is best. Do you really think some guy in his early 30's can be terrifying? No. There's something creepy about the older people. And, the actors who are older have more experience acting, and the majority of them are the best actors of a bunch (Penn, Roth, Depp, etc...)
I always pictured The Joker to be around 36-44 years old.

Ok, go to a video store, buy Psycho and watch the 28 year old Anthony Perkins in that. Then tell me about young people not being terrifying... :o

[Detective Flass]

Momma's boy, drag queen Norman doesn't scare me. :o

[Detective Flass]

The only person under 40 that has ever terrified me was Regan McNeil aka Linda Blair of the Exorcist and she was 12 at the time.

No one else.

[Alonsovich]

The only person under 40 that has ever terrified me was Regan McNeil aka Linda Blair of the Exorcist and she was 12 at the time.

No one else.

The six year old Harvey Stephens in The Omen.

[Spidey-Bat]

Momma's boy, drag queen Norman doesn't scare me. :o

Not now b/c your older.

Have you seen American Psycho? Silence of the Lambs (with Lecter AND Buffalo Bob)?

There are actors under 40 who can pull off the terrifying and creepiness of Joker. Whether or not they have done a role like it. But to say no one under 40 is creepy is pure ignorance and just shows your adamant feelings of Roth as Joker. :o

[Alonsovich]

Momma's boy, drag queen Norman doesn't scare me. :o

The same can be said about Tim Roth's giant monkey...:o

[Alonsovich]

In fact... we could speak about the 35 year old Kevin Spacey in Se7en... :o

[Detective Flass]

The same can be said about Tim Roth's giant monkey...:o


The monkey wasn't mean't to be scary. :o

[spanish39]

[QUOTE=paranoidboy]Bit of a different suggestion, has anybody contemplated Rhys Ifans?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northeast/guides/halloffame/showbiz/images/rhys_ifans200x135.jpg [QUOTE]

YES, me, about one page before you girst posted, man come on now guys!

[Psycho Hulk]

[QUOTE=paranoidboy]Bit of a different suggestion, has anybody contemplated Rhys Ifans?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northeast/guides/halloffame/showbiz/images/rhys_ifans200x135.jpg QUOTE]

YES, me, about one page before you girst posted, man come on now guys!

I did too and I did a horrible Manip of him on the other page...I still am having trouble with this god damn Photoshop

[spanish39]

Maybe some of you missed my post earlier.

In the current run or arc of comics, Joker is thinking back to his "Killing Joke" comic origin and he mentions how it was only 12 years ago. During "Killing Joke" he was a young broke comedian starting out a new family. He couldn't really be younger than 21 and older than around 26. If thats true than 12 years later that would only make him between the ages of 33 and 38. A Joker in his mid 30's and that is as of now in 2005. Getting technical for ya, when "Killing Joke" was done in '89 that means he had to have been quite a few years younger as he was explaining the story to Batman at the end. He was in his late 20's early 30's, no older than 35. NOW......the next film takes place right after Batman Began and he is young, year 1 status baisicly, which mean his villians are young as well. Joker in this film will be between 28 and 35 or younger or at least look around that age.

Make any sense at all?

[Dark Knight]

Well yeah. An older Joker IMO is best. Do you really think some guy in his early 30's can be terrifying? No. There's something creepy about the older people. And, the actors who are older have more experience acting, and the majority of them are the best actors of a bunch (Penn, Roth, Depp, etc...)
I always pictured The Joker to be around 36-44 years old.


i don't how some in here say that whoever is cast as Joker....that it needs to be an actor closer to Bales age?? Why i ask??? Jokers age is never revealed in the comic books, so i see no reason why it should a big difference in the sequel. Plus wasn't there a rumor, that said Bale would be intrigued if Penn was cast as Joker? I can't wait to see which actors they end up screentesting for the role......that should be exciting!

[Detective Flass]

People only can guess how old he is.

It doesn't really matter, as long as it's an excellent actor playing him.

[SolidRoar]

I think this guy would make a great Joker....Craig Bierko..........he was awesome in Cinderella Man...

http://images.zap2it.com/ltvimages/images/shows/c/court/court_craigbierko_001.jpg
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/Arts/11/30/sbtst.bierko/story.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/the_thirteenth_floor/craig_bierko/floor2.jpgThat looks more like Harvey Dent to me. :p

[Equinox]

Could someone make a manip of Nolan as the joker..

That would OWN all.. LOL :D :D

http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/calvins/images/nolan.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

You might be interesed to know that UK film magazine "Total Film" offered their opinion on casting for The Joker:

"Current hot favourites for THe Joker? Well, none other than Brit thesp Paul Bettany has emerged as a surprise contender to play the killer clown. His competition are Aussie actor Lachy Hulme and the Wizard of Weird, Crispin Glover. Rumours surrounding ex-Jedi Mark Hamill, who voices Joker in the cartoon, are apparently tosh.

But get this: gossip-mag natter is that Christian Bale, pissed-up at the Begins premiere party, let slip that Sean Penn is in talks for the role. Now you can really get excited..."

Now, I'm not trying to pass this off for fact or anything like that. It's just a collection of rumours we already know. But what I want to point out is the opinion expressed. They aren't excited about all the "favourites" - they are excited about Sean Penn.

For an outside audience of casual fans - which will make up most of the viewership for the film - excitement around the casting of The Joker is generated by well-known actors. It is only the relatively small ratio of comic fans that want The Joker to be tall and lanky, and look just like he does in the comics.

Having said that, I'm not sold on Sean Penn. He's a fantastic actor, yes, but he often brings a raw intensity to his roles. Casting him in this movie would probably have been like casting Robert DeNiro instead of Jack Nicholson back in 1989. For that reason, I prefer the choice of Tim Roth. And I'll say one thing: both Roth and Penn are only 3-4 years older than Glover, so how can they be too old?

But still, Penn ranks ahead of Lachy Hulme in my boks. I've only ever seen him act in "Enter The Matrix", and he wasn't all that impressive. Only a small role, I know, but for most of us, that's all we've seen him in. So, would any of us seriously be thinking of him as a contender for The Joker if his name hadn't cropped up in the rumour mill?

As for Crispin Glover, I'd never found his acting all that impressive. it seems that people only want him because he looks the part. Since when was this necessary? Look at Scarecrow. I would say that, being called THE SCARECROW, being tall and lanky was more important to HIS character than it is for The Joker. But they cast a man of average height. Plus, Cillian Murphy is in his late 20s, while The Scarecrow is usually portrayed as middle-aged in the comics. And was Murphy terrible because he didn't look exactly like his comic book counterpart? No! He was excellent!

So, I saw we start thinking outside the box. Don't think about actors purely based on looks. I'd rather have someone who doesn't look the part, but can capture the essence of th echaracter. And I think Tim Roth could do just that. Though, having said that, apart from the height problem, I think Tim Roth looks a lot like The Joker.

[DorkyFresh]

That looks more like Harvey Dent to me. :p
Watch Cinderella Man then come back and say it....

[SuGarRush]

for the person who said Mark Hamill was famous for being in Back to the Future, you sir are a moron.
Mark Hamill is Luke Skywalker. If you don't know who Luke Skywalker is you should probably watch Star Wars, arguably the most popular movie series of all time.

And as far as the voice, for most comic book fans, Mark Hamill IS the voice of the Joker, but I dunno if he could pull off the acting job...