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Mr. Socko
07-19-2005, 11:13 PM
for the person who said Mark Hamill was famous for being in Back to the Future, you sir are a moron.
Mark Hamill is Luke Skywalker. If you don't know who Luke Skywalker is you should probably watch Star Wars, arguably the most popular movie series of all time.

And as far as the voice, for most comic book fans, Mark Hamill IS the voice of the Joker, but I dunno if he could pull off the acting job...

I'm pretty sure the man ment to say Crispin Glover.

madman977
07-19-2005, 11:56 PM
Two Words...VINCENT CASSEL


http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_15710144/__hr_The+Joker.jpg?bcpyd3CBFbpYo0f2 (http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/fantasy_batman_villians/vwp?.dir=/&.dnm=The+Joker.jpg&.src=gr&.view=t)

:marv: That's One Fine Looking Coat You Got There'

Dark Knight
07-20-2005, 12:06 AM
You might be interesed to know that UK film magazine "Total Film" offered their opinion on casting for The Joker:

"Current hot favourites for THe Joker? Well, none other than Brit thesp Paul Bettany has emerged as a surprise contender to play the killer clown. His competition are Aussie actor Lachy Hulme and the Wizard of Weird, Crispin Glover. Rumours surrounding ex-Jedi Mark Hamill, who voices Joker in the cartoon, are apparently tosh.

But get this: gossip-mag natter is that Christian Bale, pissed-up at the Begins premiere party, let slip that Sean Penn is in talks for the role. Now you can really get excited..."

Now, I'm not trying to pass this off for fact or anything like that. It's just a collection of rumours we already know. But what I want to point out is the opinion expressed. They aren't excited about all the "favourites" - they are excited about Sean Penn.

For an outside audience of casual fans - which will make up most of the viewership for the film - excitement around the casting of The Joker is generated by well-known actors. It is only the relatively small ratio of comic fans that want The Joker to be tall and lanky, and look just like he does in the comics.

Having said that, I'm not sold on Sean Penn. He's a fantastic actor, yes, but he often brings a raw intensity to his roles. Casting him in this movie would probably have been like casting Robert DeNiro instead of Jack Nicholson back in 1989. For that reason, I prefer the choice of Tim Roth. And I'll say one thing: both Roth and Penn are only 3-4 years older than Glover, so how can they be too old?

But still, Penn ranks ahead of Lachy Hulme in my boks. I've only ever seen him act in "Enter The Matrix", and he wasn't all that impressive. Only a small role, I know, but for most of us, that's all we've seen him in. So, would any of us seriously be thinking of him as a contender for The Joker if his name hadn't cropped up in the rumour mill?

As for Crispin Glover, I'd never found his acting all that impressive. it seems that people only want him because he looks the part. Since when was this necessary? Look at Scarecrow. I would say that, being called THE SCARECROW, being tall and lanky was more important to HIS character than it is for The Joker. But they cast a man of average height. Plus, Cillian Murphy is in his late 20s, while The Scarecrow is usually portrayed as middle-aged in the comics. And was Murphy terrible because he didn't look exactly like his comic book counterpart? No! He was excellent!

So, I saw we start thinking outside the box. Don't think about actors purely based on looks. I'd rather have someone who doesn't look the part, but can capture the essence of th echaracter. And I think Tim Roth could do just that. Though, having said that, apart from the height problem, I think Tim Roth looks a lot like The Joker.


yep. Candidates should be Penn, Bettany, Roth, Glover, and Depp if he is interested in a screentest to compete to see who should be the Clown Prince of Crime! :joker:

spanish39
07-20-2005, 01:13 AM
that was a lot to say you like Tim Roth, thats all you had to write, and Penn sucks lmao, f'n spicolli. That whole thing is BS. Bale could say Sam Jackson is Catwoman and people would believe it. No one will know till at least a year from now anyway.

Valorman
07-20-2005, 01:16 AM
i honestly cant become excited over any of these guys as joker..i have no idea why?

my0pic_spidey
07-20-2005, 08:36 AM
coz the real joker's still at large:batman:

spanish39
07-20-2005, 09:29 AM
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! :joker:

Dark Knight
07-20-2005, 12:33 PM
that was a lot to say you like Tim Roth, thats all you had to write, and Penn sucks lmao, f'n spicolli. That whole thing is BS. Bale could say Sam Jackson is Catwoman and people would believe it. No one will know till at least a year from now anyway.


Don't know how you can say Penn sucks??? Your crazy......ever seen 21 Grams, Mystic River, U-Turn, The Game?? Good acting by him and good films. Spicolli was a long....long time ago my friend.....

Mike_D
07-20-2005, 01:11 PM
Watch Cinderella Man then come back and say it....

I'm not wasting my hard earned money on "Cinderella Man"....:o I'd rather watch Fantastic Four 5 times over.

Detective Flass
07-20-2005, 01:25 PM
You might be interesed to know that UK film magazine "Total Film" offered their opinion on casting for The Joker:

"Current hot favourites for THe Joker? Well, none other than Brit thesp Paul Bettany has emerged as a surprise contender to play the killer clown. His competition are Aussie actor Lachy Hulme and the Wizard of Weird, Crispin Glover. Rumours surrounding ex-Jedi Mark Hamill, who voices Joker in the cartoon, are apparently tosh.

But get this: gossip-mag natter is that Christian Bale, pissed-up at the Begins premiere party, let slip that Sean Penn is in talks for the role. Now you can really get excited..."

Now, I'm not trying to pass this off for fact or anything like that. It's just a collection of rumours we already know. But what I want to point out is the opinion expressed. They aren't excited about all the "favourites" - they are excited about Sean Penn.

For an outside audience of casual fans - which will make up most of the viewership for the film - excitement around the casting of The Joker is generated by well-known actors. It is only the relatively small ratio of comic fans that want The Joker to be tall and lanky, and look just like he does in the comics.

Having said that, I'm not sold on Sean Penn. He's a fantastic actor, yes, but he often brings a raw intensity to his roles. Casting him in this movie would probably have been like casting Robert DeNiro instead of Jack Nicholson back in 1989. For that reason, I prefer the choice of Tim Roth. And I'll say one thing: both Roth and Penn are only 3-4 years older than Glover, so how can they be too old?

But still, Penn ranks ahead of Lachy Hulme in my boks. I've only ever seen him act in "Enter The Matrix", and he wasn't all that impressive. Only a small role, I know, but for most of us, that's all we've seen him in. So, would any of us seriously be thinking of him as a contender for The Joker if his name hadn't cropped up in the rumour mill?

As for Crispin Glover, I'd never found his acting all that impressive. it seems that people only want him because he looks the part. Since when was this necessary? Look at Scarecrow. I would say that, being called THE SCARECROW, being tall and lanky was more important to HIS character than it is for The Joker. But they cast a man of average height. Plus, Cillian Murphy is in his late 20s, while The Scarecrow is usually portrayed as middle-aged in the comics. And was Murphy terrible because he didn't look exactly like his comic book counterpart? No! He was excellent!

So, I saw we start thinking outside the box. Don't think about actors purely based on looks. I'd rather have someone who doesn't look the part, but can capture the essence of th echaracter. And I think Tim Roth could do just that. Though, having said that, apart from the height problem, I think Tim Roth looks a lot like The Joker.


I really enjoy reading your posts because they are thoughtful, explanitory, and actually smart.

I can't stand posts such as "Love that Joker" with a picture of Crispin Glover. Or fans who say Lachy Hulme is perfect when they haven't even seen his work. I'm glad Tim Roth and Sean Penn are candidates. With that being said,

I believe in Tim Roth. :up:

mongo44
07-20-2005, 02:24 PM
http://www.redslime.com/images/010305_wonka.jpghttp://www.ipass.net/jthrush/depp.jpg

Damn!
I want to take back a lot of my critism going with a name actor. But Depp has never disappointed me. He is so frickin A list I want to say no, but....dang! He would nail it...I’m sorry him being too A-List is really the only arguement. I’ve always noticed how natural he is with his performances. He just emerses himself into characters. What he did in Pirates was such an inspiring character choice. He would probably do the same with the Joker...



...okay somebody talk me out of this and it has to be a good argument other than “too big an actor”.

Equinox
07-20-2005, 02:29 PM
Ill say it again-

NOLAN as the Joker DAMMITT :D

http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/calvins/images/nolan.jpg

Keyser Soze
07-20-2005, 02:36 PM
Well, thank you, spanish, for being so wonderfully snide. First, you get all pissy about people who only write one-line posts, and when I try and put out a reasoned argument incorporating a few points and possible options, you make a smarmy remark about that as well. As it happens, I like lengthy posts. Sorry if that offends you. And as for the whole thing being BS, read my post. I said that I wasn't trying to pass this off as gospel fact. Th epoint I was focusing on was that it was the rumours around a STAR being cast that were generating excitement amongst casual fans, not rumours about unknowns who look the part.

Having said that, I don't know how you can say Sean Penn sucks. Apart from possibly Kevin Spacey and Johnny Depp, I'd say he's the finest actor of his generation, the cleosest equivalent to DeNiro in his prime.

I hate how everyone argues that Penn shouldn't be cast because he has a huge ego. Yes, he has outspoken political views, but on-set, he has a reputation for being nothing but professional. The same cannot be said for Crispin Glover, famous for on-set tantrums and oddball behaviour.

I apologise if this is too long, spanish. From now on I'll try and stick to "ROTH DAMNIT!" or "Glover iz teh sex"...

Keyser Soze
07-20-2005, 02:40 PM
As for coming up with an argument against Johnny Depp, its difficult. He's my dream choice for the role of The Joker. He's a phenomenal actor, and he looks th epart. but he is still just that: a DREAM choice.

As you said, he's way too big a name. But apart from that, there is his friendship with Tim Burton. Hasn't he publicly stated that he preferred Tim Burton's Batfilms? Or was that another BS rumour?

mongo44
07-20-2005, 03:02 PM
As for coming up with an argument against Johnny Depp, its difficult. He's my dream choice for the role of The Joker. He's a phenomenal actor, and he looks th epart. but he is still just that: a DREAM choice.

As you said, he's way too big a name. But apart from that, there is his friendship with Tim Burton. Hasn't he publicly stated that he preferred Tim Burton's Batfilms? Or was that another BS rumour?

Sounds like a BS rumour, but I’m not sure it is one that could hurt him. It is a dream choice, but what a dream.

Dark Knight
07-20-2005, 04:38 PM
Sounds like a BS rumour, but I’m not sure it is one that could hurt him. It is a dream choice, but what a dream.


yeah it sounds BS.....i'm sure Depp would jump at the chance to work with Nolan.....who wouldn't? It seems he has a good reputation among actors as A director they want to work with. I think the finalists in the end will be Roth and Penn. However, if Depp has a take on the Joker and wants a screentest with Nolan....i'm sure he would not decline.

Dark Knight
07-20-2005, 04:39 PM
i'm starting to think Benecio Del Toro should get a look as Joker as well.

darknight7
07-20-2005, 04:43 PM
Depp is also my fave for the Joker...

but i heard sumthing stupid like "he has a fear of clowns so he wouldnt play the Joker"

...but if that isnt true, than YES he is definately my number 1 pic, and has been since pirates of the carribean.

...big names mean NOTHING!!!...look at NICHOLSON, NEESON, CAINE, OLDMAN!!!

...so as of now, BEN FOSTER AND JOHNNY DEPP ARE BOTH PHYSICALLY AND ACTING ABILITY GOOD for the JOKER!!

--dk7

Detective Flass
07-20-2005, 05:32 PM
I seen Ben Foster on some Disney Tv show about 5 years ago or so. And was in a movie with Sisquo.

Isn't he like 26 or something!??!

Anyway, it's actually true about Depp being afraid of clowns. But he would make an excellent Joker. :(

Spidey-Bat
07-20-2005, 05:56 PM
Depp is also my fave for the Joker...

but i heard sumthing stupid like "he has a fear of clowns so he wouldnt play the Joker"

...but if that isnt true, than YES he is definately my number 1 pic, and has been since pirates of the carribean.

...big names mean NOTHING!!!...look at NICHOLSON, NEESON, CAINE, OLDMAN!!!

...so as of now, BEN FOSTER AND JOHNNY DEPP ARE BOTH PHYSICALLY AND ACTING ABILITY GOOD for the JOKER!!

--dk7

It wasn't that good for Nicholson to be in Batman 89 b/c he upstaged Keaton. In the opening credits, I believe his name appears before Keaton.

uberdave
07-20-2005, 06:07 PM
I've recently begun to like the idea of Jason Lee for joker, especialy if they use the Killing Joke origin. Jason Lee looks like he could give that failed stand up comedian vibe.

Crashorama
07-20-2005, 06:11 PM
The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Bettany for the Joker.

Joker831
07-20-2005, 06:19 PM
OK looking at all the people on the poll and some of the names mentioned i will quickly rank everyone with an explanation to why i ranked them that way on who i want to be Mr.J

1. Tim Roth- Such a great actor, had the look, played great villians before, has worked with make-up before and is creepy lol. He is my #1 choice

2. Johnny Depp- We all know he could do it. Too good of an actor to not be able too lol. Although i dont see it happening, he is my #2 choice

3. Paul Bettany- He has shown me he could do this role. Definitly has a look to him. Wouldnt mind him at all.

4. Vincent Cassel- Another good british? actor who def has the look and the skills

5. Mark Hamill- Now hear me out. I have seen him before and recently play some good psycho roles. Now i know he is a little old, but he has the voice and with make-up, he would have the look. I think he could do it.

6. Jason Lee- Young talented guy who i think would do this justice.

7. Chris Eccleston- Another guy who has Mr.J potential all over him. Wouldnt mind him too much at all either

8. Ben Foster- Man i watched him in Hostage and woah, if you want someone young who can do the Joker, its him

9. Benico Del Torro- He showed me in Sin City that he looks alot like a Joker. Its his accent and all im a little buggy on. But all in all, wouldnt mind him either lol

10. Jude Law- Road to Perdition, yepp he could def do it but i have him as my Riddler so i am ranking him low

11. John Tuttoro- Man this guy looks crazy lol. He may be a little old which may hold him back but if you saw him in Secret Window, he could do Mr.J

12. Adrien Brody- He was ok in The Village and obviously has a Mr.J look its just i think he is too small and skinny and comes across as a wimp too me, so naw.

13. Crispin Glover- Again, most obviously has the look and can be creepy in certain roles, but IMO his acting sucks, he's whinny and i just dont want him as The Joker.

14. Bruce Spence- He is kind of old too but man he looks like Mr.J. He has the acting skills too, but with all the other good choices, he ranks low for me

15. Lachy Hulme- Havent shown me anything to make me gamble on him as the best villian ever. He hasnt done much of anything so i wouldnt take a risk. He has the look, not sayin i would be mad if he got casted....i would give him a chance and watch, just not the role i would gamble on...c'mon its The Joker.

16. Steve Buscemi- He is crazy and all, but i just dont want him as The Joker. Maybe Mad Hatter, but not Joker.

17. Willam Dafoe- Holy **** could he do this role, just that he was the Green Goblin ranks him almost at the bottom. Cant be two arch nemesis for two different superhero's lol.

18. Jim Carrey- Again, man could he nail this, but the fact that he has already been a villian in the previous Batman's, ranks him dead last.

OK there's my list lol. Feel free to comment

Dark Knight
07-20-2005, 07:21 PM
I seen Ben Foster on some Disney Tv show about 5 years ago or so. And was in a movie with Sisquo.

Isn't he like 26 or something!??!

Anyway, it's actually true about Depp being afraid of clowns. But he would make an excellent Joker. :(


then it's time for Depp to "face his fear" hmm?? :batman:

Dark Knight
07-20-2005, 07:25 PM
OK looking at all the people on the poll and some of the names mentioned i will quickly rank everyone with an explanation to why i ranked them that way on who i want to be Mr.J

1. Tim Roth- Such a great actor, had the look, played great villians before, has worked with make-up before and is creepy lol. He is my #1 choice

2. Johnny Depp- We all know he could do it. Too good of an actor to not be able too lol. Although i dont see it happening, he is my #2 choice

3. Paul Bettany- He has shown me he could do this role. Definitly has a look to him. Wouldnt mind him at all.

4. Vincent Cassel- Another good british? actor who def has the look and the skills

5. Mark Hamill- Now hear me out. I have seen him before and recently play some good psycho roles. Now i know he is a little old, but he has the voice and with make-up, he would have the look. I think he could do it.

6. Jason Lee- Young talented guy who i think would do this justice.

7. Chris Eccleston- Another guy who has Mr.J potential all over him. Wouldnt mind him too much at all either

8. Ben Foster- Man i watched him in Hostage and woah, if you want someone young who can do the Joker, its him

9. Benico Del Torro- He showed me in Sin City that he looks alot like a Joker. Its his accent and all im a little buggy on. But all in all, wouldnt mind him either lol

10. Jude Law- Road to Perdition, yepp he could def do it but i have him as my Riddler so i am ranking him low

11. John Tuttoro- Man this guy looks crazy lol. He may be a little old which may hold him back but if you saw him in Secret Window, he could do Mr.J

12. Adrien Brody- He was ok in The Village and obviously has a Mr.J look its just i think he is too small and skinny and comes across as a wimp too me, so naw.

13. Crispin Glover- Again, most obviously has the look and can be creepy in certain roles, but IMO his acting sucks, he's whinny and i just dont want him as The Joker.

14. Bruce Spence- He is kind of old too but man he looks like Mr.J. He has the acting skills too, but with all the other good choices, he ranks low for me

15. Lachy Hulme- Havent shown me anything to make me gamble on him as the best villian ever. He hasnt done much of anything so i wouldnt take a risk. He has the look, not sayin i would be mad if he got casted....i would give him a chance and watch, just not the role i would gamble on...c'mon its The Joker.

16. Steve Buscemi- He is crazy and all, but i just dont want him as The Joker. Maybe Mad Hatter, but not Joker.

17. Willam Dafoe- Holy **** could he do this role, just that he was the Green Goblin ranks him almost at the bottom. Cant be two arch nemesis for two different superhero's lol.

18. Jim Carrey- Again, man could he nail this, but the fact that he has already been a villian in the previous Batman's, ranks him dead last.

OK there's my list lol. Feel free to comment


No Sean Penn huh?? WOW!!

SolidRoar
07-20-2005, 08:14 PM
Watch Cinderella Man then come back and say it....I will. Actually, I'm waiting for that movie. :) It didn't open here, yet.

Timstuff
07-20-2005, 09:09 PM
then it's time for Depp to "face his fear" hmm?? :batman:

LOL, he needs to be like Batman and conquer his fear by becoming it! :D

The Last Meatbag
07-20-2005, 09:56 PM
http://manoloshoeblog.com/images/pradaroth.jpg
This would be a perfect joker pick if he was smiling and had messier hair

my0pic_spidey
07-20-2005, 10:47 PM
How about Michael Jackson?

Mr. Socko
07-20-2005, 11:12 PM
How about Michael Jackson?

Well they wouldn't need to bleach his skin...

my0pic_spidey
07-20-2005, 11:46 PM
he's perfect for the joker,if crispin isn't getting the part.
here's why:
1)His skin is bleached so he doesn't need any paint
2)He also has the joker grin
3)They call him wacko jacko and its not to undermine him
4)He has very good reflexes since he danced alot,so im sure he can do a high kick or splits,or throw a good punch

Donno about u guys but MJ reminds me of the 70s-80s joker

Mr. Socko
07-20-2005, 11:50 PM
/\/\1C|-|43L w()uLd B 4 t3rrIbL3 j0k3r

can anyone translate that?

Psycho Hulk
07-21-2005, 12:02 AM
/\/\1C|-|43L w()uLd B 4 t3rrIbL3 j0k3r

can anyone translate that?

Michael would be a terrible joker...

Anyways....

yeah, I agree. Why was he even mentioned again?

NOFX
07-21-2005, 12:05 AM
How's the Law Manip coming Pyscho hulk???

Mr. Socko
07-21-2005, 12:09 AM
yeah, I agree. Why was he even mentioned again?

Just some guys joking around...

Like Jackson would work for the Joker :rolleyes:

spanish39
07-21-2005, 01:04 AM
Funny how everyone forgets about Sam Rockwell anymore.

Asr
07-21-2005, 02:44 AM
Man, if Cillian hadn't already played Scarecrow, he would've been among my top choices for Joker. :(

None of the current names being thrown around really seem like good options to me. There have to be more actors we're not thinking about.

Btw, that guy from Wedding Crashers can do a great intense look and make you think he's off his rocker, but the question is, does he have the range?

user123456789
07-21-2005, 02:45 AM
are they seriously considering Lache Hulme? I googled him and he looks nothing like a Joker i dreamed of for a Begins sequel.

my0pic_spidey
07-21-2005, 05:38 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/britton_w00n/joker-print1.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/britton_w00n/mj-joker.jpg

my0pic_spidey
07-21-2005, 05:40 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/britton_w00n/mjoke3.bmphttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/britton_w00n/jokey2.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/britton_w00n/mjoke5.bmp

Mister Sinister
07-21-2005, 06:01 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/britton_w00n/mjoke5.bmp
Now, I have supported Michael Jackson throughout his trial and was thrilled when he was found innocent. BUT THAT IS THE UGLIEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN!

Mister Sinister
07-21-2005, 06:05 AM
5. Mark Hamill- Now hear me out. I have seen him before and recently play some good psycho roles. Now i know he is a little old, but he has the voice and with make-up, he would have the look. I think he could do it.

8. Ben Foster- Man i watched him in Hostage and woah, if you want someone young who can do the Joker, its him

17. Willam Dafoe- Holy **** could he do this role, just that he was the Green Goblin ranks him almost at the bottom. Cant be two arch nemesis for two different superhero's lol.

18. Jim Carrey- Again, man could he nail this, but the fact that he has already been a villian in the previous Batman's, ranks him dead last.
By the time they start filming, they'll be known too much as Luke, Angel, Green Goblin and the Riddler, they're good choices though.

^natureboy^
07-21-2005, 06:33 AM
Any recent photos of Mark Hamil ?
:joker:

^natureboy^
07-21-2005, 06:47 AM
http://www.outrate.net/priscilla.jpg

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/%7Ern6d-hnd/people/hugo_weaving.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/hugoweaving/main.jpg

http://www.perfectpeople.net/media/celebs/1252/81606-1051140306.jpg

I think Hugo can be a good Two-Face with his acting ability and voice, he sounds so intelligent and cruel the way he played as Agent Smith
:joker:

Gossip Gerty
07-21-2005, 09:17 AM
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7597/jackowacko8xj.jpg

Go Michael Go !!!

Equinox
07-21-2005, 09:41 AM
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7597/jackowacko8xj.jpg

Go Michael Go !!!

LMAO :D :D

Detective Flass
07-21-2005, 09:56 AM
Michael Jackson as The Joker
Justin Timberlake as Two Face

WTF kind of movie is this? lol

Anyway, Spork are you saying you're a Roth supporter?

Detective Flass
07-21-2005, 10:07 AM
Tim Roth for The Joker

http://www.filmkultura.iif.hu:8080/2001/articles/films/images/1900/19002.jpg
http://www.terra.es/cine/especiales/elplanetadelosimios/pics/roth.jpg
http://www.iofilm.co.uk/eiff/images/diary/timnray_2.jpg
http://www.anonymousphilanthropist.com/jots/roth2.jpg
http://www.cinematrix.hu/fajlok/muveszek/kepek/9387963558501.jpg
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/08/20/ew.review.dvd.tarantino/story.dogs.jpg

TheJuice
07-21-2005, 10:17 AM
I think this guy would make a great Joker....Craig Bierko..........he was awesome in Cinderella Man...

http://images.zap2it.com/ltvimages/images/shows/c/court/court_craigbierko_001.jpg
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/Arts/11/30/sbtst.bierko/story.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/the_thirteenth_floor/craig_bierko/floor2.jpg


Whenever I see this guy on Conan O'Brien, he always the most blandest guest on the show. Which puts me off as him being Joker. Not criticizing you, Dorky, just this guy as an actor.

The Kid
07-21-2005, 10:27 AM
http://i.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/030602/14613__ojones_l.jpg

the joker :up:

The Kid
07-21-2005, 10:33 AM
JESUS CHRIST has no one thought of him? :confused:

http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.catholic.net/catholic_db/imagenes_db/us_catholic_news/caviezel.jpg

Detective Flass
07-21-2005, 10:41 AM
Tim Roth for The Joker

http://www.filmkultura.iif.hu:8080/2001/articles/films/images/1900/19002.jpg
http://www.terra.es/cine/especiales/elplanetadelosimios/pics/roth.jpg
http://www.iofilm.co.uk/eiff/images/diary/timnray_2.jpg
http://www.anonymousphilanthropist.com/jots/roth2.jpg
http://www.cinematrix.hu/fajlok/muveszek/kepek/9387963558501.jpg
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/08/20/ew.review.dvd.tarantino/story.dogs.jpg

Detective Flass
07-21-2005, 10:41 AM
Tim Roth for The Joker

http://www.filmkultura.iif.hu:8080/2001/articles/films/images/1900/19002.jpg
http://www.terra.es/cine/especiales/elplanetadelosimios/pics/roth.jpg
http://www.iofilm.co.uk/eiff/images/diary/timnray_2.jpg
http://www.anonymousphilanthropist.com/jots/roth2.jpg
http://www.cinematrix.hu/fajlok/muveszek/kepek/9387963558501.jpg
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/08/20/ew.review.dvd.tarantino/story.dogs.jpg

spanish39
07-21-2005, 10:54 AM
Kk flass don't get banned for stupid stuff now, come on and be sensible. Quit posting all the same Roth pics, I think we all get it after 3 of them.

and same goes for Monkey and all the Jackson pics......

Besides, this guy, em, girl should be joker if your going down that route. She is evil. Isn't it obvious?
http://cdn.news.aol.com/aolnews_photos/09/05/20050721061409990006

......maybe Ra's, lmao?

Mike_D
07-21-2005, 11:13 AM
Any recent photos of Mark Hamil ?
:joker:

http://www.joemotes.com/catalog/images/JohnKassir2.jpg

Milkman95
07-21-2005, 12:11 PM
Go with Vincent Cassel.

ROMAragorn
07-21-2005, 01:26 PM
JESUS CHRIST has no one thought of him? :confused:

http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.catholic.net/catholic_db/imagenes_db/us_catholic_news/caviezel.jpg


I think he is good too. Nice pick Wesyeed but can he personalize the Joker. Now don't misunderstand me. Jim Caviezel is an excellent actor no doubt on that, but in all the movies that I've seen him in, he was always cast, as a quite and innocent and most likely a kind-hearted man. Even in 'High Crimes', though he was in fact, the murderer. And I think that this is the very reason why they picked him. Hope you can understand what I am trying to say. However I could be wrong and I hope that I am wrong as I think he is one of the best choices for the role of the Joker.:o

Psycho Hulk
07-21-2005, 02:23 PM
They are going to make it a female joker...and her and Harley will have a magnificent shower scene together...:ahem: Just kidding.

Anyways, Wesyeed...I like your choice, but I don't remember his name.

RedFive
07-21-2005, 02:37 PM
Any recent photos of Mark Hamil ?
:joker:
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8245/345httpusnews2yimgcomusyimgcom1.jpg

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6733/508832183wd.jpg

sorry they're so big.

DorkyFresh
07-21-2005, 02:52 PM
Whenever I see this guy on Conan O'Brien, he always the most blandest guest on the show. Which puts me off as him being Joker. Not criticizing you, Dorky, just this guy as an actor.
You're not even criticizing him as an actor....you're criticizing him as a person. When you criticize him as an actor, you criticizing his WORK....not his appearances on talk shows.

mongo44
07-21-2005, 02:53 PM
Yikes! That reconstructive surgery is starting to go south.

Equinox
07-21-2005, 04:16 PM
http://i.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/030602/14613__ojones_l.jpg

the joker :up:

:down :down :down

DorkyFresh
07-21-2005, 04:24 PM
If there's a black actor I think could pull off being the Joker....it would be Orlando Jones, hehe.

The Last Meatbag
07-21-2005, 04:24 PM
Isnt he the 7up guy?

DDRSkata
07-21-2005, 04:27 PM
Isnt he the 7up guy?

He used to be. He got replaced when I was in maybe eighth grade.

Andyroar
07-21-2005, 04:52 PM
Just saw the comedy Wedding Crashers with Owen Wilson.

There was an actor in it playing one of the main characters called 'Sack Lodge'. The actors name was Bradley Cooper.
Man, he looks like he could nail the Joker.
Mad eyes and a wild grin that reminded me so much of Batmans arch foe.
Sorry I dont have a pic to post but anyone out there can check him out on the net.
Be interestred to hearing your comments on this guy.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/joker.gif

mongo44
07-21-2005, 04:54 PM
Several have mentioned that. I can't wait to see it, but...small kids...no sitter...I'll have to wait for the DVD. Cause if I get a sitter it will either be Sith or Charley.

The Kid
07-21-2005, 05:10 PM
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/3214/DonCheadle_Mazur_143777_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Jones,%20Orlando&seq=49

The riddler and joker strike up a fiendish friendship as they plot to destroy gotham's hero.

Andyroar
07-21-2005, 05:11 PM
http://bradley-cooper.com/gallery/albums/Alias%20Promo/Alias%2003.jpg

Heres the guy! Bradley Cooper.

http://bradley-cooper.com/gallery/albums/Alias%20Promo/normal_Alias%2011.jpg (javascript:;)

The Nose Goblin
07-21-2005, 05:14 PM
Its funny how someone mentioned Craig Bierko, because I remember watching Cinderella Man and thinking "I've seen this guy before" and "this guy is kinda scary in this."


So I did a quick search found this article and I found a quote thats kind of funny: http://www.craigbierkofans.com/CraigBierkoPeriodicals/ShadowBoxer.htm

Its the last paragraph of that link..
"Life is funny," Bierko muses. "For a while I thought all I wanted was a booster rocket to gigantic fame. Now I don't have any illusions about this business. I'd rather be the Joker to Batman -- the type of actor who is always good but who is really there to make the star look good."

I know he doesn't mean literally, but still kinda funny.

That being said, I don't know if he'd be a right for the part or not. I'd need to see more.

madman977
07-21-2005, 05:34 PM
This was the pic I created using photoshop of Vincent Cassel as the Joker.

http://myspace-643.vo.llnwd.net/00164/34/69/164029643_l.jpg

and in case you can't see the pic then here is the link.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=22422206&imageID=164029643&Mytoken=20050721152600

:marv: That's one fine looking coat you got there'

Keyser Soze
07-21-2005, 05:38 PM
Bradley Cooper! Yeah, he was on "Alias". I liked him in that, but I'm not sure if he comes across as too much of a boy-next-door type to play The Joker. Nice to see you come up with an original choice though!

Which is where I'm coming from with this post. I feel that this thread has become a bit redundant. Rather than offering up casting suggestions, all that seems to be happening is that the same few names are being thrown around, and everyone is arguing over who's best. I think we need to freshen things up a bit. Let's try suggesting some new possible candidates for The Joker. They don't have to be your top choices, jsut NEW names.

The choice I'm going to give is by no means my top choice. My top choice is still TIm Roth, with the likes of Johnny Depp, Sean Penn and Benicio Del Toro being higher on my wishlist. but these guys have all been talked about a lot. This guy hasn't.

What about Ben Stiller?

Please, no, don't flame me! Think about it! Yes, he's a comedy actor, and any other comedic actors suggested, like Will Ferrell and Adam Sandler, have been rightly shot down in flames. But I think Stiller has a darker edge than these other guys, which could work well in performing as The Joker. Think about it: yeah he's known for playing loveable losers, but his best performances tend to come from him being a bastard - just see "Dodgeball", or his guest roles in "Friends" or "Extras".

Another argument may be that he can't be convincing in dramatic roles. I point you to "The Royal Tenembaums". Sure, it's billed as a comedy, but I'd personally call it a tragi-comedy. And Ben Stiller gives one of the best performances in the film. His wife has died in a plane crash, and as a result, he spends his whole life terrified that something is going to happen to his children. In many ways, its a really heartbreaking performance, particularly near the end, when the death of his dog triggers and outpouring of grief that he never truly experienced when his wife died.

I think that he basically has the look down as well. One major thing that works against him is his height. but there are some other shorties in hte running, like Roth and Penn, who happen to be among my top choices.

So I say look past his comedy roles, and you can see that Ben Stiller has the potential to make an excellent Joker. Nobody thought Robin Williams could pull off a villain until he did it too startlingly good effect in "Insomnia" and "One Hour Photo". how does the old saying go? "A clown isn't half as funny in the dark." A very fitting statement in relation to The Joker...

Tell me your thoughts on Ben Stiller as The Joker. And try and come up with some casting suggestion we haven't heard yet.

The Nose Goblin
07-21-2005, 05:56 PM
Tell me your thoughts on Ben Stiller as The Joker.
No.


NO!



NOOOO!!!!!

Andyroar
07-21-2005, 06:02 PM
Bradley Cooper is the Joker!

Keyser Soze
07-21-2005, 06:04 PM
Well, it seems like I certainly succeeded in sparking off some in-depth discussion...

Detective Flass
07-21-2005, 06:06 PM
According to Wikipedia, if Johnny Depp declined the role of Willy Wonka, Burton's alternate choices for the role would be Tim Roth, Jim Carrey, or Bill Murray.

Major Points for Roth! :joker::up:

Keyser Soze
07-21-2005, 06:26 PM
Flass, I don't see where you're coming from in this argument. Couldn't you technically say that Bill Murray or Jim Carrey could therefore be top Joker candidates? And in any case, what does Willy Wonka really have to do with The Joker, except for the fact that Depp would be a great Joker?

Detective Flass
07-21-2005, 06:35 PM
Willy Wonka is another great role, and that's more to add to Roth. Also when Anthony Hopkins was uncertain if he'd return for Hannible, Roth was going to be his replacment.

Just saying. :rolleyes:

Keyser Soze
07-21-2005, 06:44 PM
Right, I get where you're coming from now. If we're playing this game, here's another one:

Tim Roth was actually cast as Snape in the Harry Potter films. But due to a shooting clash he had to drop out. Alan Rickman was a last minute replacement.

Detective Flass
07-21-2005, 06:49 PM
I know.

Too bad. Roth would have made the ideal Snape. :up:

RedFive
07-21-2005, 07:09 PM
Tim Roth was actually cast as Snape in the Harry Potter films. But due to a shooting clash he had to drop out. Alan Rickman was a last minute replacement.

wow, that's really interesting, i never heard that, cool.

Alfie Luke
07-21-2005, 07:26 PM
... speaking of crazy casting choices: Johnny Knoxville.

Sure, he looks EXACTLY like the Creeper, but he's the right age, the right height and has a somewhat 'slim' body, which is good, no?

I wouldn't mind him at all.

Mr. Socko
07-21-2005, 08:26 PM
Johnny Knoxville as the Joker..... I'll skip on him.

The Kid
07-21-2005, 08:40 PM
he would suck ballz

Mr. Socko
07-21-2005, 09:48 PM
I concur

Crispin would do better

darknight7
07-21-2005, 09:54 PM
THIS BRAD COOPER CHARACTER IS DEFINATELY A GREAT CANDIDATE GUYS!! CHECK HIM OUT!!

...hmmm, he has NATURALLY CREEPY EYES...
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/9937/bradley136ox.jpg

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/4499/bradleycooper2409of.jpg
LOOK AT THAT MOUTH!!! WOW!!!
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8391/picturebrad3gg.jpg

--dk7

DorkyFresh
07-21-2005, 09:54 PM
You guys can diss Tim Roth's height all you want...but you canNOT deny that he has the eyes...

http://www.cruel-angels.com/ragad/roth.jpg
http://www.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/0/06/150px-Timroth.jpg
http://www.cinemamontreal.com/images/people-389-timroth.jpg

This one is just BEGGING to be manipped...

http://www.robertofrankenberg.com/media/print/roth.jpg

The Kid
07-21-2005, 10:10 PM
I'd like him more as riddler really.

darknight7
07-21-2005, 10:20 PM
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/9937/bradley136ox.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/4499/bradleycooper2409of.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8391/picturebrad3gg.jpg


I agree Roth looks more like a Riddler...

This guy on the other hand, reminds me of "THE JOKER: TAS"

:joker:

how about some new blood anyways? no one is saying we need a young guy, but an actor who matches Bale would be nice...

--dk7

Matis17
07-21-2005, 10:22 PM
THIS BRAD COOPER CHARACTER IS DEFINATELY A GREAT CANDIDATE GUYS!! CHECK HIM OUT!!

...hmmm, he has NATURALLY CREEPY EYES...
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/9937/bradley136ox.jpg

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/4499/bradleycooper2409of.jpg
LOOK AT THAT MOUTH!!! WOW!!!
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8391/picturebrad3gg.jpg

--dk7I agree. I saw Wedding Crashers and he really looks like he has the goods. Very loony and violent in that movie. His character actually scared me at parts. :D

TheJuice
07-21-2005, 10:42 PM
Hank Azaria anyone?

He's a very good character actor, and you'd need a good character actor to play The Joker.

http://www.citynerd.com/simpsons/azaria.jpg

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/serving_sara/hank_azaria/sarapre2.jpg

Maybe Tim Curry?

http://www.playbill.com/images/photos/curry1_1089211382.jpg

Mr. Socko
07-21-2005, 10:45 PM
A definite NO to Tim Curry. He doesn't really have a Joker voice, only think him and Joker resemble is a huge smile.

DorkyFresh
07-21-2005, 11:10 PM
A definite NO to Tim Curry. He doesn't really have a Joker voice, only think him and Joker resemble is a huge smile.
WTF u talkin' about???? Tim Curry was up for the Joker if Jack Nicholson wasn't him in 89. Tim Curry would've been a PERFECT Joker if he were younger...

Mr. Socko
07-21-2005, 11:52 PM
He ain't evil enough

DorkyFresh
07-22-2005, 01:25 AM
He ain't evil enough
get the f*** outa here...

http://images.bol.de/04/11/51/04115146_b003.jpg
http://www.stephen-king.de/movie/autogramme/curry.jpg
http://www.all-pictures-photos.com/images/tim-curry/tim-curry-011-img.jpg
http://www.20six.fr/pub/prisonniere/Frank__n_Furter.gif

NOFX
07-22-2005, 01:34 AM
I heard that Steven Kings It was inspired by the Joker in the comics??? Is that true??

Asr
07-22-2005, 04:32 AM
Can someone post some pics of Joker from the 90's TAS, I think some of us need a visual reference. :p

mongo44
07-22-2005, 06:38 AM
Actually I always thought Joker in DKR looked like Curry a lot. Specifically in the scenes in Arkham he looks like Frank. Tim Curry can play evil, he can do the manic, he can do the flamboyant, etc.

But Curry is too old to play the Joker in this run. Maybe if they were doing an adaption of DKR I would say definitely the perfect Joker.

The Techno Bat
07-22-2005, 09:06 AM
Can someone post some pics of Joker from the 90's TAS, I think some of us need a visual reference. :p

http://www.fi-donc.nl/artwork/wb/k-classicjoker.jpg

http://www.fi-donc.nl/artwork/wb/k-classicjoker.jpg

theBat-Man
07-22-2005, 09:09 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/joker.bmp
The killer clown.

theBat-Man
07-22-2005, 09:10 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/dude.jpg
Roasted dude.

Mr. Socko
07-22-2005, 09:28 AM
I didn't know that Tim Curry played the evil clown :confused:



http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/joker.bmp
The killer clown.

How can anyone beat that :o

I personally don't expect them to

Spidey-Bat
07-22-2005, 10:35 AM
The permanent smile kinda sucked:o

Equinox
07-22-2005, 10:42 AM
The permanent smile kinda sucked:o

LoL, nice avatar..Is that a gang bang going on there.. LMAO :D

theBat-Man
07-22-2005, 10:45 AM
The permanent smile kinda sucked:o

http://www.batmanmovieonline.com/behindthescenes/photos/ritts12.jpg

Spidey-Bat
07-22-2005, 11:13 AM
That's still a permanent smile. Look at the cheeks.

Sawyer
07-22-2005, 11:23 AM
Ooh, hey for those who are fans of both Angel and Batman, wouldnt Andy Hallett be great for The Joker? I think he would!

Detective Flass
07-22-2005, 12:14 PM
Dorky Fresh's information about Tim Curry is actually incorrect. He wasn't up for The Joker in Batman 1989, he was a candidate to do the voice of The Joker on BTAS. It came down to him and Mark Hammil and Hammil beat him out.

Mr. Socko
07-22-2005, 12:25 PM
The permanent smile kinda sucked:o

I thought it was great :up:

DorkyFresh
07-22-2005, 12:40 PM
Back then I loved the permanent smile, but movies back then had lower standards....


...you can't get away with that with today's standards. It just looks corny now...

Mr. Socko
07-22-2005, 01:33 PM
I just recently saw it and I still liked it. Joker only showed one emotion, smiling, happy. But on the inside he wasn't always happy.

And you gotta love Nicholson's Joker attire. :D

SatanBurger
07-22-2005, 02:50 PM
Back then I loved the permanent smile, but movies back then had lower standards....


...you can't get away with that with today's standards. It just looks corny now...

Yeah, no doubt. The thing is it's such a pain, nowadays, having to live up to gold like The Fast and the Furious and xXx. Back in the day all you had to contend with was crap like Casablanca, Taxi Driver, Brazil, The Godfather. Oh the days of mediocrity.

Mr. Socko
07-22-2005, 02:55 PM
Back then I loved the permanent smile, but movies back then had lower standards....


...you can't get away with that with today's standards. It just looks corny now...

Yeah, I don't think they'll put a permanent smile on The Joker in the new series. I don't think Joker ever had a permanent smile in the comics, not sure but I know he doesn't have one in the current day comics. I think they don't want anything to do with the old series (especially B&R) which is kinda good.

DorkyFresh
07-22-2005, 03:00 PM
Yeah, no doubt. The thing is it's such a pain, nowadays, having to live up to gold like The Fast and the Furious and xXx. Back in the day all you had to contend with was crap like Casablanca, Taxi Driver, Brazil, The Godfather. Oh the days of mediocrity.
You're going to extremes...I never said that Fast and Furious was gold. You're comparing XXX to Batman Begins? Shame on you...

Mr. Socko
07-22-2005, 03:03 PM
Fast and Furious isn't gold, neither is xXx, Batman Begins is better then both of those. And xXx 2 was just awful, but may have been even worse if Vin Diesel came back.

Castlewood
07-22-2005, 03:38 PM
Brad Cooper from "Wedding Crashers" !!!!!!!

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/9937/bradley136ox.jpg

It's not a bad idea.

Mr. Socko
07-22-2005, 03:42 PM
I wonder if Nolan wants an older Joker, which he probably does. If they were going for a younger Joker then I think Nick Stahl would be able to do it.

edit

they sure made a huge suppy of permanent lips for Jack

http://www.batmanmovieonline.com/behindthescenes/photos/dudman2.jpg

mushdb3388
07-22-2005, 03:49 PM
Ben Foster...

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/hostagesimonlee/ben%20foster%20rw.jpg

http://bilder.filmstarts.de/verzeichnis/film/filme/h/hostage/Hostage11.jpg

http://bilder.filmstarts.de/verzeichnis/film/filme/h/hostage/Hostage12.jpg

http://www.allesfilm.com/pics/hostage_benfoster.jpg

http://web.telia.com/~u46711705/images/hostage27.jpg

ultimatefan
07-22-2005, 03:53 PM
Guys, guys... have patience. It´s still pretty early in the process. Who knows what´ll happen till 2008, there may be some great unknown actor out there who will astonish the world as The Joker... Wait and see.

Mr. Socko
07-22-2005, 03:56 PM
^after looking at that first picture of Ben Foster you posted, I don't see him doing it either. That only shows he can be a psycho, I don't see any humor in him, and he has a funny shape head

The Kid
07-22-2005, 06:32 PM
he's going to be angel anyway.

There's only one man who can play the joker and that's Jesus christ. End of discussion.

The Nose Goblin
07-22-2005, 07:31 PM
http://www.joblo.com/images_movie_reviews/2-gangsterno1.jpg

I've been digging the idea of possible front runner Paul Bettany lately.

The Question
07-22-2005, 07:46 PM
Alan Cumming
http://www.geekroar.com/film/archives/spykids_cummings-thumb.jpg

http://www.aumag.org/images/Jan04-cover.jpg

http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue409/kennedy2.jpg

http://www.fairfieldweekly.com/binary/101373-273-1/film-3259.jpeg


He said he's not comeing back for X3, so he'd be free for BB2.

The Last Meatbag
07-22-2005, 07:57 PM
I think Alan Cumming would be great, isnt he a comedian as well as an actor too?

Asr
07-22-2005, 07:57 PM
That guy from Wedding Crashers is growing on me. If he has the range, he would be ultimate! His character in Wedding Characters was a great blend of crazy/tough-guy/scary. If he can sound "sane" one second and then do a maniacal laugh the next.....

The Question
07-22-2005, 08:02 PM
I think Alan Cumming would be great, isnt he a comedian as well as an actor too?

Not sure. It's just he looks a heluva lot like Mistah Jay, and he's a good actor.

Psycho Hulk
07-22-2005, 09:23 PM
Not sure. It's just he looks a heluva lot like Mistah Jay, and he's a good actor.

Yeah, but seeing him in the Son of Mask...just madew my stomach turn. Although, not his fault at all...

The Last Meatbag
07-22-2005, 09:25 PM
My question is, why did you even go to see it?

The Kid
07-22-2005, 09:35 PM
I think Alan Cumming would be great, isnt he a comedian as well as an actor too?

I don't think he's a comedian, but he sure is quite the joker. I'd like for him to get the role if possible.

spanish39
07-22-2005, 09:50 PM
So how about this poll?

Lachy Hulme
Paul Bettany
Alan Cummings
Paul Sarsgard
Vincent Cassell
Christopher Eccelstone
Jake Bussy
Ifan Rheys
Craig Beirko
Bradley Cooper
Stuart Townsand
Tim Roth
Jason Lee
Sam Rockwell
Hugo Weaving
Ryan Gossling
Adrien Brodie

......other than Glover and Law are we missing anyone?

Hamill, Nicholson are out of the question......Depp, Penn, and Del Toro are to famous for the role and agedas well.

The Last Meatbag
07-22-2005, 09:59 PM
I believe NOlan wanted a pretty big name actor, but oh well

Mr. Socko
07-22-2005, 11:18 PM
I think Alan Cumming would be great, isnt he a comedian as well as an actor too?

He's a comedian, actor, and hosts this *show* on The comedy channel

Spidey-Bat
07-22-2005, 11:20 PM
He's a comedian, actor, and hosts this gay show on The comedy channel(not that I watch it because I don't cause I'm not gay)
edit the g-a-y thing unless you want probation.

Mr. Socko
07-22-2005, 11:39 PM
thanks for the heads up:up:

TheBat812
07-23-2005, 12:24 AM
I believe NOlan wanted a pretty big name actor, but oh well
where'd u hear that? :confused:

Mr. Socko
07-23-2005, 12:29 AM
I can't wait till they finally say who will play the Joker. There'll be manips galore for what he could look like. :o

The Last Meatbag
07-23-2005, 12:33 AM
edit the g-a-y thing unless you want probation.


you cant say that any more?

spanish39
07-23-2005, 01:08 AM
you can say gay, it's still a free country last i checked lol.

Anywho, so are there any names missing? Also, I doubt Mr. Nolan cares wether or not the actor's name is well known or not but rather if he can play the part.

mongo44
07-23-2005, 08:20 AM
Dorky Fresh's information about Tim Curry is actually incorrect. He wasn't up for The Joker in Batman 1989, he was a candidate to do the voice of The Joker on BTAS. It came down to him and Mark Hammil and Hammil beat him out.

Sorry it is correct. Much of the info since then has gotten skewed or selective history. I was sitting on pins and needles back in the 80's waiting for new news on casting choices. Tim was a canidate then along came Defoe and Ray Liotta. Robin Williams was never a canidate. Michael Keaton was announce almost at the same time as Tim Burton. WB used Keatons picture from Clean & Sober airbrushed. Then Jack was announced. Jack wanted Prince for the sound track because he was listening to "Purplr Rain" soundtrack to develope his mood for Joker. The parade scene was originally filmed using "Let's go Crazy".

I still have many of my trade magazines from that time.

DOO BEE
07-23-2005, 10:12 AM
Ben Foster...

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/hostagesimonlee/ben%20foster%20rw.jpg

http://bilder.filmstarts.de/verzeichnis/film/filme/h/hostage/Hostage11.jpg

http://bilder.filmstarts.de/verzeichnis/film/filme/h/hostage/Hostage12.jpg

http://www.allesfilm.com/pics/hostage_benfoster.jpg

http://web.telia.com/~u46711705/images/hostage27.jpg

what movie is that from???

Gossip Gerty
07-23-2005, 10:16 AM
So how about this poll?

Lachy Hulme
Paul Bettany
Alan Cummings
Paul Sarsgard
Vincent Cassell
Christopher Eccelstone
Jake Bussy
Ifan Rheys
Craig Beirko
Bradley Cooper
Stuart Townsand
Tim Roth
Jason Lee
Sam Rockwell
Hugo Weaving
Ryan Gossling
Adrien Brodie

......other than Glover and Law are we missing anyone?

Hamill, Nicholson are out of the question......Depp, Penn, and Del Toro are to famous for the role and aged as well.

I'd like to see Paul Bettany as the Joker because is a talented English actor (Source IMDB info: 6' 3" (1.91 m), date of birth: 1971). In my opinion the presence is the right one. Tall, weird, mad eyes, psycho-attitude. I don't know why ...but he reminds me the Joker from Frank Miller's dark knight return (think about him with a white or black and white dress and maybe a gun and a cigarette). A killer. Unforeseeable.

http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/7622/joker6mz.jpg

spanish39
07-23-2005, 11:01 AM
cool, cool, what about the list people? What about Luke Goss (Blade II/Charlie)
http://www.totaldvd.net/features/interviews/images/200209LukeGoss.jpg

ALSO: Ben Foster is Angel in X-Men 3 and no longer a possibility as much as Dafoe or really even Cummings to be honest.

One actor...one role...one comic film...period.

Dark Donnie
07-23-2005, 11:34 AM
can somebody manip this?
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/darkdonnie/lou.jpg

The Question
07-23-2005, 12:21 PM
One actor...one role...one comic film...period.


Why? That's a stupid rule. Besides, The Joker is both physically and personality wise a total oposite of Nightcrawler. Anyone who saw Cummings as The Joker would only barely see a resemblence to Nightcrawler. The voice, the manerisms, the personality, the way the character moves, would all be completely different.

Weadazoid
07-23-2005, 12:26 PM
So how about this poll?

Lachy Hulme
Paul Bettany
Alan Cummings
Paul Sarsgard
Vincent Cassell
Christopher Eccelstone
Jake Bussy
Ifan Rheys
Craig Beirko
Bradley Cooper
Stuart Townsand
Tim Roth
Jason Lee
Sam Rockwell
Hugo Weaving
Ryan Gossling
Adrien Brodie

......other than Glover and Law are we missing anyone?

Hamill, Nicholson are out of the question......Depp, Penn, and Del Toro are to famous for the role and agedas well.


why in the world would you say Penn, Del Torro, and Depp are too famous? was Jack too famous? hell yes but it was about getting the right guy for the role.

Penn is my first choice IMO, he would be the one guy who could really intimidate Bale in terms of acting and that is kind of needed. Plus he would deliver a dead serious Joker, well not dead serious but you know what I mean Del Torro may devolve back to his Lawyer role in Feaar and Loathing, same thing worries me about Depp.

We all agree no more Rubarb rubbing.

Psycho Hulk
07-23-2005, 12:26 PM
what movie is that from???

Hostage...with bruce willis.

TimDrake64x
07-23-2005, 02:46 PM
can somebody manip this?
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/darkdonnie/lou.jpg

yes, please someone do it

Keyser Soze
07-23-2005, 03:11 PM
First, I want to say - Luke Goss was also in a comic book movie. So if you want to shoot the suggestions of Alan Cumming, Willem Dafoe and Ben Foster down in flames because they appeared in comic book movies, Goss can't be suggested either.

As for the list, I'd say Sean Penn, Benicio Del Toro and Johnny Depp should all be included. They are 3 of the most popular choices. Penn and Del Toro, while famous, aren't exactly HUGE superstars. They are highly-acclaimed character actors, on the same level as the likes of Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman. The only BIG headline star out of the three is Johnny Depp, who I feel should still be included in any poll because he's such a popular choice.

And on this note: as much as I am against Crispin Glover being cast as The Joker, we have to accept that he is the most popular choice in the internet community. So any potential poll should include him.

Keyser Soze
07-23-2005, 03:47 PM
Okay, I was reading that eight actors auditioned for the role of Batman. It gave me an idea. If you could put together a shortlist of eight candidates to audition for The Joker, who would they be? Here's who I'd pick:

CRISPIN GLOVER
As anyone who has read my posts will know, I am no fan of Crispin Glover. I DO NOT want him to be cast as The Joker. However, having said that, I have t orespect that he is by far the most popular choice for the part amongst the fan community. Therefore, I think he deserves to at least have a chance to prove himself. Hell, maybe he could shock me and be absolutely AMAZING.

TIM ROTH
Still my favourite for the role. The guy is a phenomenal actor, without being too big a name. I think he could give a performance that could accurately nail The Joker's essence, and, apart from his height, I think he looks the part as well. The nearest thing to a perfect candidate, and therefore a shoo-in for any screen-test.

SEAN PENN
Although not necessarily the best choice for The Joker, he is probably the strongest actor out of all the names being thrown around. I think if "The Best Actor Of Our Generation" (TM) expresses interest in being in your film, you definitely give him a shot. Just because he plays serious, intense roles doesn't mean that he wouldn't be able to just go crazy as The Joker. Giving a screen-test would be the chance to see how he pulls it off.

BENICIO DEL TORO
Benicio Del Toro is one of the best character actors around right now. He brings a dark, quirky, unique quality to all his characters, and I think his Joker would be a fascinating, off-the-wall creation. I still think that Del Toro is a strong dark horse contender for the role, so he should be included in the screen-test shortlist.

LACHY HULME
The collection of actors who auditioned for Batman was a mix of established names and relative unknowns. And Hulme really is UNKNOWN to me. I've only ever seen him act in "Enter The Matrix", and didn't get to see enough of him to form an opinion. Therefore, while I don't strongly feel he SHOULD get hte part, I don't feel strongly that he SHOULDN'T either. Like Glover, there is a lot of buzz around the guy, so I feel he deserves to get a shot at auditioning, regardless of what I think.

PAUL BETTANY
This could be the wild-card choice. On the one hand, I've seen his work, and he's a very good actor. Out of all the candidates (even moreso than Glover) I'd say he really looks like The Joker. But on the other hand, there's nothing in his performances that I'd seen that makes me think he'd be an excellent Joker. But he has proven to be quite diverse in his roles, so there's nothing that tells me he COULDN'T play the part. Plus, he's another popular candidate, and I think he deserves a shot to prove himself.

MARK HAMILL
Okay, I'll say this - I think Mark Hamill is WAY too old to play The Joker. However, he was absolutely stunning as THe Joker in TAS. At least as good as Nicholson, if not better. So, he may be past the perfect age to play The Joker, but I think he deserves a shot. It would be a shame if the possibility of casting a Joker who is both a fan-favourite AND already proven to be excellent in the role just because he seems too old.

JOHNNY DEPP
The biggest name out of all the candidates, which is the major factor working against him. Like Penn, I'd say if this guy were to express interest in your film, you'd give him a screen-test. However, Depp is a far bigger name than Penn, so maybe he wouldn't do a screen-test. Plus, there's the worry that he could overshadow Bale. However, those worries aside, Johnny Depp is a phenomneal actor, one of my favourites. And casting him as THe Joker would be a huge box office boost - fans who normally wouldn't watch a Batfilm would be brought in by the droves, excited at the prospect of seeing Johnny Depp as The Joker. If he'd agree to do a screen-test, I'd say give him one.

Well, that's my list. What are your thoughts? Who would be in your screen-test shortlist?

TimDrake64x
07-23-2005, 03:57 PM
bring in johnny to do the joker, bale as bats again but have the oval chest symbol, nolan direct it and heres the shocker....have tim burton actually produce it (not like forever where he was just on the credits and did really do anything) that would be the ultimate batflim

spanish39
07-23-2005, 04:53 PM
True Blade II is a comic film, but is it really based of any certin novels or comics? Is Nomack even a comic character? Most people wouldn't even know who he is and also most people don't even know Balde is a comic film, even though it is soley responsible for ALL the comics films that came after to this date, even Spider-Man. Besides he was just a suggestion.

Depp, Penn and Del Toro are too famous to be Joker is what I'm saying. How many times do I have to say this? The more famous the actor the more he will take away from the character itself. Depp is my favorite actor but I don not want to see him as The Joker. My favorite actor and character, but not together. I would almost resent him for it much like almost resent him for Wonka. He never would have done that film 10 years ago, especially if Burton was not invoved, it just wasn't his style, now though after "Pirates" he takes big pictures which worries me that he would take the Joker role. He would be great in it probably but the character might not be as appealing cause you will see Johnny before you see Joker. It would be like watching Batman fight Johnny Depp in a clown suit the entire time.

With Penn, well, he is old and his voice sucks and he's stocky as well. Dosen't look like The Joker physiclly very much and he would probably sound like Sam from "I am Sam". I like Penn and his acting just not a real big fan, "Mystic River" was a good film and "Spicolli" and thats all I really like, oh, and "Carlito's Way" was classic. I honestly think Penn is about 10 years to late for the role. Hell he should have had it back when Nicholson did it. That would have been Penn's PRIME time.

Del Toro is awesome, great actor, love Fear & Loathing also it's my favorite film of all-time. Ceaser Romero was hispanic so thats not a big deal and Romero was gay as well though. Del Toro could do it, he would have to trim WAY DOWN though and he is getting older so I doubt he could slim down enough anymore like he used to be. His Joker would look weird and nothing like the character from ANY of the ooks but it would be interesting. I don't see it at all though honestly working out for the better.

I would never put Crispin on ANY poll for Joker cause he will always win. Too many fanboys and internet freaks and Glover cult members will vote for him just cause. So it is pointless. Just look at all the names up there and he is still in front. You give people the choice and he will win cause he is a fanboy favorite some reason. So lets say this will be a, "If you could pick someone other than Glover poll". Make the fanboys get real and start looking at the bigger picture.

As for Roth, once again I will say that he is too famous for the rle of being the Joker. Do we understand what I mean here? That he would take away from the Joker and be more Roth. He does get a little over-acting done sometimes and he is tiny compared to Bale and Joker.

We need to get someone who looks like they could stand up to Bale and not look like a shrimp height wise. Batman beats the hell out of Joker everytime but Joker dosen't stand down or look like a tiny little angry guy all pumped up to fight either (think Tom Cruise fighting Bale, lol)

PS, also I think the rule of one comic film per actor is great. Keeps the image real and refreshing for the character of any particular film. It also is no good for the actor and can result in type casting, hell, look at how bad Halle Berry came out of it. Let's hope Ryan Reynolds dosen't have the same problem when he becomes Flash. Though like I was saying about Goss, most people don't know Blade is Marvel. Though Hannibal King was actually a comic figure in this case so......

darknight7
07-23-2005, 05:09 PM
I definately think Depp is a great choice. I know everyone says he is a bigger actor and COULD outstage Bale. But Bale is a phenomenal actor, and couldn't you see Bale and Depp going head to head, they are both amazing, and both good for there age and physique. I think they could be a match for eachother. And as big as Depp is, I don't think he would outstage Bale on screen. I think they would be amazing together.

--dk7

darknight7
07-23-2005, 05:14 PM
True Blade II is a comic film, but is it really based of any certin novels or comics? Is Nomack even a comic character? Most people wouldn't even know who he is and also most people don't even know Balde is a comic film, even though it is soley responsible for ALL the comics films that came after to this date, even Spider-Man. Besides he was just a suggestion.

Depp, Penn and Del Toro are too famous to be Joker is what I'm saying. How many times do I have to say this? The more famous the actor the more he will take away from the character itself. Depp is my favorite actor but I don not want to see him as The Joker. My favorite actor and character, but not together. I would almost resent him for it much like almost resent him for Wonka. He never would have done that film 10 years ago, especially if Burton was not invoved, it just wasn't his style, now though after "Pirates" he takes big pictures which worries me that he would take the Joker role. He would be great in it probably but the character might not be as appealing cause you will see Johnny before you see Joker. It would be like watching Batman fight Johnny Depp in a clown suit the entire time.

I respect what your saying about seeing DEPP instead of JOKER. But i truely beleive that Depp is a good enough actor to make you beleive that he is JOKER. If not Depp, than I would surely pick one of the other 2 candidates in my sig. THey are both physically good for the part (facial features etc).

--dk7

Mr. Socko
07-23-2005, 06:11 PM
Alan Cumming would be a good Joker, but I think he'd be an even better Riddler.

The Question
07-23-2005, 06:20 PM
No, I'd like to see Jude Law or Jonny Depp as The Riddler. More the quiet genious of TAS and the comics than the crazy goofy guy of Forever.

Mr. Socko
07-23-2005, 06:20 PM
No, I'd like to see Jude Law or Jonny Depp as The Riddler. More the quiet genious of TAS and the comics than the crazy goofy guy of Forever.

Ah yes, Depp as Riddler. I like it :up:

Trigger
07-23-2005, 06:24 PM
I agree about Depp being an excellent actor,but truthfully...would he even do it? I don't know if Depp would even be interested in such a film.

Spidey-Bat
07-23-2005, 06:25 PM
Would you have thought he'd have an interest in being in a Disney movie?

I think Depp would be a fantastic Joker. But we'd have another instance like in B89 where Nicholson out-shone Keaton.

Sawyer
07-23-2005, 06:50 PM
Andy Hallett for Joker Dammit!

Psycho Hulk
07-23-2005, 07:03 PM
I am just going to throw this in for fun, even though it will be thrown back at me:

Brendan Fraser:
http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/personalidades/atores/brendan-fraser/brendan-fraser03.jpg
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http://lujans.net/Fraser/Bedazzled/BD-030.jpg
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http://lujans.net/Fraser/Bedazzled/BD-056.jpg
*******
I dunno, he's a crazy dude...he can be a normal guy and also very zany...
I Dunno, I just got tired of hearing the other list over and over.

Keyser Soze
07-23-2005, 07:03 PM
I think we're worrying a bit too much about Bale being outshone. He managed to give the standout oerformance in a film with Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson And Gary "Scene-Stealer" Oldman. I'm sure he could more than hold his own against Johnny Depp.

As for Sean Penn being too old, he's just 44 years old. Only 3 years older than the likes of Johnny Depp and Crispin Glover. And Benicio Del Toro is no older than 40, so I don't think he's too old either.

But anyway, are any of you going to post up your personal shortlist of candidates if there was going to be a screen-test of 8 people for The Joker like there was for Batman?

Trigger
07-23-2005, 07:04 PM
Brendan Frasier = Worst.Movie.Casting.Ever.

Psycho Hulk
07-23-2005, 07:05 PM
Brendan Frasier = Worst.Movie.Casting.Ever.

:p haha. see, I knew it would happen. But it's nice to know the world doesn't revolve around Glover.

Keyser Soze
07-23-2005, 07:07 PM
Psycho Hulk, congratulations for thinking outside the box. A couple of pages back, I made an appeal for people to try and offer some original suggestions for The Joker. It didn't matter if it was their top choices, as long as it was a new name. I suggested Ben Stiller, and apart from one rejection, my idea was blatantly ignored, with everyone going back to supporting the same old candidates.

So thank you for suggesting someone new. Having said that, I don't see Brendan Fraser as The Joker. He generally plays quite frinedly, innocent characters. I can't say I've seen anything in any of his performances that would suggest the darkness required for The Joker.

Psycho Hulk
07-23-2005, 07:20 PM
I agree, Keyser Soze, I don't nessarily think Fraser could pull off the darkness of the Joker. But he is just one of the ideas that came to me...to mix things up, I will post the others who jumped into my head over the last few days. Of course, none of these are my top choice...but just random thinking:

Gabriel Byrne:
http://www.djfl.de/entertainment/stars/g/gabriel_byrne.jpg
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Ray Park
http://www.gencon.com/images/SC04/MGOH-Ray-Park.jpghttp://gfx.filmweb.pl/p/7920/po.59422.jpg

Eh, I don't feel like getting completely beaten to death today...so I will stop now. so I will REPEAT: NOT MY TOP CHOICES...just ideas.

Mr. Socko
07-23-2005, 07:20 PM
I agree about Depp being an excellent actor,but truthfully...would he even do it? I don't know if Depp would even be interested in such a film.

What great film has Depp turned down. He's played in pretty much every genre there is.

Keyser Soze
07-23-2005, 07:36 PM
Both interesting choices Psycho-Hulk. However, Bryne is too old, and I don't think Park has the acting chops to pull it off. Besides, he's Toad AND Iron FIst.

Psycho Hulk
07-23-2005, 08:02 PM
Both interesting choices Psycho-Hulk. However, Bryne is too old, and I don't think Park has the acting chops to pull it off. Besides, he's Toad AND Iron FIst.

He's IRON FIST!?! I thought that was a rumor...Holy crap.

Psycho Hulk
07-23-2005, 08:03 PM
See this is the problem with casting a New Joker...he has to be just right or else it fails.

TheJuice
07-23-2005, 08:23 PM
John Leguizamo.

I know he's short, but hey, Hugh Jackman was too tall to play Wolverine but that didn't stop the X-Men movies from making millions.

http://www.maximonline.com/entertainment/reviews/editorial_images/a041202johnleguizamo.jpg

http://www.hispanianews.net/archive/2000/August04/john_leguizamo.gif


http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/moulin_rouge/john_leguizamo/moulinpre2.jpg

http://www.rochestergoesout.com/mov/s/spawn2.jpg

The Kid
07-23-2005, 08:32 PM
oh hell yeahhttp://www.romeoandjuliet.com/players/images/casttybalt.jpg

The Question
07-23-2005, 08:56 PM
......I could see it.

Pnyryd2k1
07-23-2005, 10:08 PM
i have to say Bradley Cooper from wedding crashers..he just acted totally nuts in that movie plus he has the big toothy grin down pat

TimDrake64x
07-23-2005, 10:13 PM
ol' coop would be a nice choice but not the big name nolan wants, the best big name actor out there so far is depp. but i have complete confidence in nolan to pick the perfect actor

NOFX
07-23-2005, 10:41 PM
No, I'd like to see Jude Law or Jonny Depp as The Riddler. More the quiet genious of TAS and the comics than the crazy goofy guy of Forever.
Why is that so many people want Jude Law for the Riddler?? Chances are the Riddler not even going to show up in the Sequels. So would you please be so kind and say Jude Law for the Joker and not the Riddler :D :o

Timstuff
07-23-2005, 11:01 PM
I think that Depp fits the description of the kind of actor they're looking for pretty well. Didn't they say they wanted someone fairly well known as the Joker? Also, I think they're probably going to want someone who's not too far away from Bale in age. Depp seems to fit the bill pretty nicely.

The Question
07-23-2005, 11:15 PM
However, I heard Depp has an irational fear of clowns. But hey, he's a good actor. He'd get over it for the part. Plus, he could do what Batman did. Turn his fear into raw energy for the part. Besides, what is psychosis but a way of masking one's fear?

Lpilgrim
07-24-2005, 12:38 AM
id really prefer not to see depp as the joker.......the joker is tall and lanky.......depp is like 5'10 and not lanky.......hes a pip squeak



i dunno....whatever

spanish39
07-24-2005, 02:03 AM
I mentioned quite a few names there Keyser.

Ryan Gosslin
Luke Goss
Paul Sarsgard
Stuart Townsend
Vincent Gallo (a long time ago)
Ifan Rheys
Sam Rockwell

Asr
07-24-2005, 04:21 AM
Bradley Cooper dammit! Screentest him Nolan!!! :D

darknight7
07-24-2005, 10:50 AM
Do you guys think Cillian Murphy could have pulled off the Joker if he wasnt cast as Scarecrow?

--dk7

TimDrake64x
07-24-2005, 10:52 AM
ya i do but oh well, he was a fantastic scarecrow

TheJuice
07-24-2005, 11:55 AM
I think Gary Oldman would've made a good Joker, but he's Gordon.

DorkyFresh
07-24-2005, 12:03 PM
Gary Oldman would've made a good ANYTHING....the dude is a chameleon!

darknight7
07-24-2005, 12:08 PM
....the dude is a chameleon!


HAHAHA thats funny, but so true...(great actor)

--dk7

Detective Flass
07-24-2005, 12:21 PM
The Best New Casting Choice mentioned so far is John Leguizamo. I didn't even think of him! I though of him for Penguin and not Joker how could I!?!? For that he gets number 5 on my list.

1. Tim Roth
2. Sean Penn
3. Matthew Modine
4. Paul Bettany
5. John Leguizamo

Timstuff
07-24-2005, 01:21 PM
Hmm, I just thought of something interesting about Johnny Depp:

Maybe the fact that he IS afraid of clowns would make him the ideal choice for the role, since he would know first hand what makes people scared of them. And that means that he could possibly make the scariest Joker anyone has ever seen! Someone who's not afraid of clowns might not have the greatest idea for how to make one seem scary, and that actually could make Depp a great canidate.

TimDrake64x
07-24-2005, 02:50 PM
the more i read the more i like depp, he would be perfect

The Question
07-24-2005, 03:05 PM
Pluss, if you look at him in Edward Scisor hands, he looks completely diferent from his usual pretty boy self. just have makeup like that but with a toothy grin like he had in Charlei And The Chocolat Factory, and he's look alot like The Joker.

spanish39
07-24-2005, 03:30 PM
Will you guys forget Depp already? He will not be Joker, no you know what? I don't even care anymore lol. Think what you want from now on, hell John wayne for Joker!

Mr. Socko
07-24-2005, 03:36 PM
Pluss, if you look at him in Edward Scisor hands, he looks completely diferent from his usual pretty boy self. just have makeup like that but with a toothy grin like he had in Charlei And The Chocolat Factory, and he's look alot like The Joker.

I hate Ed Scissor hands. Willy Wonka was great, and the guy has a huge grin, perfect for the Joker :o

The Question
07-24-2005, 03:46 PM
Well, I wasn't somenting on the quality of the movie (although I did like it), simply the quality of the makeup job.

Timstuff
07-24-2005, 04:04 PM
Johnny Depp is great as a character actor. He's capable of looking and acting completely different in so many roles, I have full faith that he'd be able to sink right into the Joker role.

TimDrake64x
07-24-2005, 04:08 PM
yes and i do think he would do it

BatmanRules33
07-24-2005, 04:39 PM
I hate Ed Scissor hands. Willy Wonka was great, and the guy has a huge grin, perfect for the Joker :o

edward sisscorhands was a GREAT movie, makes me sad and feel for the character, one of depps finest eraly performances no doubt, but for joker???! who the hell thought of that!! just cuz he works with burton doesnt mean he should be joker! didnt see wonka yet but i wanna so bad!

oh and JOHN WAYNE FOR JOKER DAMNIT!!

Timstuff
07-24-2005, 04:43 PM
I don't even like most of Burton's movies. I like Johnny Depp for the role because he's got tremendouse range for playing different characters, he's in the age range they are supposedly looking at, and he also has the right facial structure to play Joker.

The Kid
07-24-2005, 04:54 PM
http://www.nndb.com/people/251/000025176/pee-wee.gif hello boys and girls:up:

The Question
07-24-2005, 04:56 PM
But Jonny Depp is a much better actor.

Timstuff
07-24-2005, 05:03 PM
http://www.nndb.com/people/251/000025176/pee-wee.gif hello boys and girls:up:

Who is that? If it's Paul Ruebens then I'll just tell you no way should he play joker in advance.

Keyser Soze
07-24-2005, 05:09 PM
WOW! John Leguizamo is an amazing choice! I'd never thought of him before, but he is such a brilliant, inspired choice! The only thing, the ONLY thing going against him is that he played Clown in "Spawn". Leguizamo immediately enters my top five.

TimDrake64x
07-24-2005, 05:34 PM
oh and pee wee has already been in a batfilm (hes the penguines dad) also hes just a bad choice

Timstuff
07-24-2005, 05:39 PM
Yeah, especially since he has a stash of kiddie porn and there will probably be children watching this film.

BatmanRules33
07-24-2005, 06:08 PM
Yeah, especially since he has a stash of kiddie porn and there will probably be children watching this film.

HAHAHAHA!! thats a pretty sick guy......hes PERFECT for Joker!!:o

TimDrake64x
07-24-2005, 07:11 PM
^^haha thats terribley true

Detective Flass
07-24-2005, 07:33 PM
Keyser you copycat! :p ;)

EDIT: 3000 POSTS!!!!!

Castlewood
07-24-2005, 08:01 PM
Ok.....here's a left-field suggestion.

I'm just gonna throw it out there.....

.....Denis Leary.

The Last Meatbag
07-24-2005, 08:02 PM
I said that, I think he would be great.

Detective Flass
07-24-2005, 08:08 PM
Ok.....here's a left-field suggestion.

I'm just gonna throw it out there.....

.....Denis Leary.

You're the guy who said Batman was better then girls. :o

Castlewood
07-24-2005, 08:18 PM
You're the guy who said Batman was better then girls. :o

Was that wrong of me?

BTW....I'm joking about Leary.

Spidey-Bat
07-24-2005, 08:40 PM
You're the guy who said Batman was better then girls. :o

He's better than 90% of girls.

The Question
07-24-2005, 08:46 PM
More like 50%. But then again, I know more hot girls than most.

Castlewood
07-24-2005, 08:52 PM
More like 50%. But then again, I know more hot girls than most.

Maybe I should get a subscription to Playboy too then.

"OOOOOH."

j/k man.

Boom
07-24-2005, 09:04 PM
I said that, I think he would be great.
Yep.

The Last Meatbag
07-24-2005, 09:12 PM
http://catalog.worldofautographs.com/thumbs/WOA/E/6/80-E6683FC8D33EC44387A366D1891E705C.jpg

he certainly looks the part, and he has a creepy laugh

Stringer
07-24-2005, 09:27 PM
after seeing the Jacket I think Adrian Brody would be great as the Joker and he's already got the nose for it

TheJuice
07-24-2005, 11:51 PM
WOW! John Leguizamo is an amazing choice! I'd never thought of him before, but he is such a brilliant, inspired choice! The only thing, the ONLY thing going against him is that he played Clown in "Spawn". Leguizamo immediately enters my top five.


Yes, but that was back in 1997. Been 8 years since he played that role, chances are, general audiences wont care or remember that he was in that movie. WB has to atleast give Leguizamo an audition.

spanish39
07-25-2005, 04:26 AM
everybody knows violater was John, anyway thats more stupid an idea than Depp lmao.

STEVEN SEGAL for Joker!!!!!!

I'm sure someone here would like it, pathetic.

BARNEY for Joker!!!!!! Hell, he ialready purple

or maybe if the use good CGI Bale can just play everyone hell screw it lol. Bale for Joker, even make an apparence as Mary Jane like he does on these borads sometimes.

Detective Flass
07-25-2005, 10:01 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2005/03/14/images/christian_bale_the_machinist_interview_top.jpg

CHRISTIAN BALE FOR THE JOKER! :joker:

The Question
07-25-2005, 10:18 AM
He'd actually make a good Joker. God, I hate living in a world with only one Christian Bale.

mongo44
07-25-2005, 01:13 PM
Think outside the speculation/dream casting/theories regarding pros and cons for the casting of the Joker (and I didn’t want to start another thread like so many do) and let’s jump forward to the day casting is announced. What would be your honest reaction if they cast someone that you have adamantly been against since it was first brought up on these boards? Either because the person is totally opposite of your choice or totally out of left field.

Example: He picks Jim Carrey this is the pick (for me) that would cause my head to spin around. Do I trust Nolan, who has made some great choices? Or refuse to see the movie cause I hate Carrey so much? I think I would have to go see it just like I did BF (didn’t like it and Carrey being in it just fueled my hate more).

I’m wondering on everyone else’s take. Crispin haters, Law Haters, etc.

I’m not sure if anyone else has done this, so sorry if this is a repeat...

The Kid
07-25-2005, 01:18 PM
you have to be objective about this. They're actors and their job isn't to play themselves so just go see it and well, **** it, if they screw up, curse WB and Nolan and drop this franchise and kill some kittens.

The Kid
07-25-2005, 01:41 PM
Who is that? If it's Paul Ruebens then I'll just tell you no way should he play joker in advance.j

I think he can do it. He's as creepy as most want joker to be already and he's kinda a joker as his pee wee herman self. :up: He's got the nose and his built with a weak looking body just like joker. It's all good. If crispin glover can do it, surely pee wee can.

http://netscape.planetout.com/images/misc/kiosk/popcornq/movienews/peewee.jpggrrr... http://www.jokerfanpage.mynetcologne.de/images/Kane-Joker.jpghttp://www.lottaliving.com/tvshow/PeeWeeHerman.jpg

dogsgotlipstick
07-25-2005, 01:44 PM
j

I think he can do it. He's as creepy as most want joker to be already and he's kinda a joker as his pee wee herman self. :up: He's got the nose and his built with a weak looking body just like joker. It's all good. If crispin glover can do it, surely pee wee can.

http://netscape.planetout.com/images/misc/kiosk/popcornq/movienews/peewee.jpggrrr...

You have got to be taking the piss... for gods sake; the man is a kiddie fiddler! Absolutely not!!!

dogsgotlipstick
07-25-2005, 01:46 PM
He'd actually make a good Joker. God, I hate living in a world with only one Christian Bale.

he could always do an eddie murphy in coming to america, and do multiple roles...ha!

The Kid
07-25-2005, 01:47 PM
he fiddles kids? Wow that makes him even more perfect.

BatmanRules33
07-25-2005, 01:57 PM
he fiddles kids? Wow that makes him even more perfect.

thats what i said!:o

Duneboy
07-25-2005, 02:02 PM
I think Ray Liota would be awseome as The Joker. He can play one seriously crazy muther effer. Also, I forgot his name but he's the devil at the end of Constantine. He was also in 8 MM, Minority Report, & played Slippery Pete in Seinfeld.

BatmanRules33
07-25-2005, 02:48 PM
I think Ray Liota would be awseome as The Joker. He can play one seriously crazy muther effer. Also, I forgot his name but he's the devil at the end of Constantine. He was also in 8 MM, Minority Report, & played Slippery Pete in Seinfeld.

a jewish looking joker? nah. though he was funny as satan, "mmmmmmmm..........ok!", that cracked me up.

antmanx68
07-25-2005, 04:06 PM
a jewish looking joker? nah.

WHAT? what do you mean by "jewish looking"? I'm curious. :confused:

Mr.Webs
07-25-2005, 04:46 PM
I think I might have a good guy to play The Joker...

http://bilder.filmstarts.de/verzeichnis/film/filme/h/hostage/Hostage11.jpg

The guy's name is Ben Foster...he's been in such films as, "Hostage" and, "Liberty Heights", along with the HBO TV series, "Six Feet Under". He can definitely act insane, he has The Joker's prominent crooked nose and chin, and he seems to be a good choice all around. True, he might be a tad young, and he would have to become skinnier, but I think he would be pretty awesome.:D

BatmanRules33
07-25-2005, 04:51 PM
I think I might have a good guy to play The Joker...

http://bilder.filmstarts.de/verzeichnis/film/filme/h/hostage/Hostage11.jpg

The guy's name is Ben Foster...he's been in such films as, "Hostage" and, "Liberty Heights", along with the HBO TV series, "Six Feet Under". He can definitely act insane, he has The Joker's prominent crooked nose and chin, and he seems to be a good choice all around. True, he might be a tad young, and he would have to become skinnier, but I think he would be pretty awesome.:D

looks nasty, was he eating raw donkey meat? :o

Equinox
07-25-2005, 05:26 PM
looks nasty, was he eating raw donkey meat? :o

LMAO :D

BatJeff7786
07-25-2005, 06:25 PM
BOF says that Steve Carnell ( The 40 Year Old Virgin, Anchorman) is rumored to possibly be up for the role. I don't think it would work. He's funny, but not Joker material. What's he gonna say:

Joker: Who are you?

Batman: I'm Batman

Joker: Really? I love.......lamp.

TimDrake64x
07-25-2005, 06:46 PM
^^lol, ya...he would be an interesting choice to say the least

CConn
07-25-2005, 06:47 PM
BOF says that Steve Carnell ( The 40 Year Old Virgin, Anchorman) is rumored to possibly be up for the role. I don't think it would work. He's funny, but not Joker material. What's he gonna say:

Joker: Who are you?

Batman: I'm Batman

Joker: Really? I love.......lamp.That would be so utterly horrible. :(

Detective Flass
07-25-2005, 06:52 PM
I made a thread months ago about the idea and now what!!?!? WB listens. :o

Producers prowl these boards as well. :eek:

It's Steve Carell. ;)

Carnell...lol

BatJeff7786
07-25-2005, 06:54 PM
It would be horrible, but it would also be pretty damn funny. Maybe for an SNL skit or something.

The Last Meatbag
07-25-2005, 06:59 PM
looks nasty, was he eating raw donkey meat? :o

nope he gets stabbed in the mouth, watch the end of hostage, its freaky as hell, especially when hes crawiling through an air duct:eek:

Mr. Socko
07-25-2005, 07:04 PM
never seen that movie

Dark Knight
07-25-2005, 07:09 PM
BOF says that Steve Carnell ( The 40 Year Old Virgin, Anchorman) is rumored to possibly be up for the role. I don't think it would work. He's funny, but not Joker material. What's he gonna say:

Joker: Who are you?

Batman: I'm Batman

Joker: Really? I love.......lamp.


he would be a bad choice.....PERIOD! The chances of this guy getting the Joker role are slim to none IMO.

antmanx68
07-25-2005, 08:08 PM
They need either a guy who is inherently creepy looking like Bruce Spence, Crispin Glover, Peter Stormare, Lachey Hulme, Willem Defoe.... OR a guy who can pull off a very nuonced and unique performance under some killer makeup: Johnny Depp, Sam Rockwell, Alan Cumming.... someone like that.

antmanx68
07-25-2005, 08:14 PM
Ben foster was already Spacker Dave and supposedely he's gonna be Angel in X3. I dont particularly like him for Joker.... still kind of young looking.

The Last Meatbag
07-25-2005, 08:16 PM
I think he better than Crispin Glover, whos Spacker Dave?

antmanx68
07-25-2005, 08:19 PM
One of the Frank's neighbors in The Punisher.

TimDrake64x
07-25-2005, 08:23 PM
oh god that little punk, no...jsut please...no

Mr.Webs
07-25-2005, 08:51 PM
Ben foster was already Spacker Dave and supposedely he's gonna be Angel in X3. I dont particularly like him for Joker.... still kind of young looking. Yeah, in my eyes, that's the only bad part of it...far too young.:(

darknight7
07-25-2005, 09:20 PM
I think I might have a good guy to play The Joker...

http://bilder.filmstarts.de/verzeichnis/film/filme/h/hostage/Hostage11.jpg

The guy's name is Ben Foster...he's been in such films as, "Hostage" and, "Liberty Heights", along with the HBO TV series, "Six Feet Under". He can definitely act insane, he has The Joker's prominent crooked nose and chin, and he seems to be a good choice all around. True, he might be a tad young, and he would have to become skinnier, but I think he would be pretty awesome.:D

I brought this guy up about 10 pages ago. He didnt catch anyones attention though. (check my sig) I think he is top 3 choice. And im glad someone else has finally recognized his talent:up:

--dk7

darknight7
07-25-2005, 09:24 PM
oh god that little punk, no...jsut please...no

go watch Hostage before saying that. He is one of the best choices for the Joker, beleive me.

--dk7

The Question
07-25-2005, 09:30 PM
I say Jonny Depp. We've seen him in heavy make up befor. Hell, Edward Scisor hands looked like a Joker who didn't smile. And he's a damn good actor. He'd totally get into the role. Seriously, I barely recognize him from role to roll. He, Bale, and Oldman are three of the best actors in hollywood. To have all of them on screen together would kick ass.

The Last Meatbag
07-25-2005, 09:31 PM
Bale and him I think would be friends if tyhey met each other