Joker Casting Threads [merged-30]

[TimDrake64x]

me 2, depp all the way

[FreeBeerForAll]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/burelljoker2.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/burelljoker.jpg

Ty Burrell from dawn of the dead for the Joker.

[darknight7]

My sig says it all...

those guys are top 3 best choices DEFINATELY:cool::up:

--dk7

[The Kid]

wb, don't listen to them. Pick Pee wee, Jesus, or Williams.

[The Question]

Your avatar is freaking me out man.

[The Question]

C'mon guy. Think about it:


http://maggie.unixdaemons.com/edward.jpg+http://janecemoment.com/images/wonka.jpg=http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptionscomic/joker.jpg

[The Kid]

http://untruenews.com/unimages/r.downey.jr.jpg I think he'd be perfecter

[The Question]

DEPP DAMMIT!!!!!

[TimDrake64x]

C'mon guy. Think about it:


http://maggie.unixdaemons.com/edward.jpg+http://janecemoment.com/images/wonka.jpg=http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptionscomic/joker.jpg

wow man, that makes me want depp as joker even more...ga thats awesome

[The Question]

Oh the hypnotic power of BLANK + BLANK = BLANK. Will we ever truely understand your awesom power?

[TimDrake64x]

i duno though after seeing charlie i think depp can play anthing, cause i had serious doubts when i walked in but he answered them all

[Timstuff]

Depp dangit!

[The Question]

No no. You're doing it all wrong. It should be:



DEPP DAMMIT!!!!!!!

[robzass]

no depp. dont you see why the original films didnt work??? THe villians were always bigger names then the heroes. Plus theres no way depp would do it since goyer wants the joker to appear in duel films (hes the one who pours the acid on harvey dent making him 2face in the third film according to goyer)

[The Question]

First of all, the major flaw of the origional franchise was that the villains got more screen time than Batman. Not that they were bigger names. And they could always change the sequel set up. Besides, has Depp ever said he's against sequels before?

[william_blake05]

The problem with Depp is that he doesn't do psycho roles. He's a family man.

[FreeBeerForAll]

C'mon guy. Think about it:


http://maggie.unixdaemons.com/edward.jpg+http://janecemoment.com/images/wonka.jpg=http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptionscomic/joker.jpg

so, because Depp can make a pouty face he should be able to do the joker?

[TimDrake64x]

The problem with Depp is that he doesn't do psycho roles. He's a family man.

doesnt do psycho films! have u seen secret window...that guy needed a whole house of white padded walls, and willy wonka isnt exactly the most sane man in the world. and to depp doesnt do sequels, the pirates of the caribean sequels (yes 2) are being shot back to back. and come on man look past the pouty face asswhipe hes a character actor and the joker is a great character...uncultured little turd

[The Question]

And I was makeing the point that as Edward Siscor Hands he had a party, sick complexcion not disimilar to how The Joker's should be. And as Willie Wonka he had a charismatic and somwhat flamboyant look and body language that The Joker should have.

[BK]

I definitely wouldn't mind if Depp was chosen. I haven't seen one role where he disappoints, and the critics love him thorugh and through. If he expresses interest, and if Nolan decides to cast him, then all the better.

[The Question]

doesnt do psycho films! have u seen secret window...that guy needed a whole house of white padded walls, and willy wonka isnt exactly the most sane man in the world. and to depp doesnt do sequels, the pirates of the caribean sequels (yes 2) are being shot back to back. and come on man look past the pouty face asswhipe hes a character actor and the joker is a great character...uncultured little turd


Tim, there is no need to call someone an asswhipe or a turd. Mabey you should apologise?

[batsone]

I definitely wouldn't mind if Depp was chosen. I haven't seen one role where he disappoints, and the critics love him thorugh and through. If he expresses interest, and if Nolan decides to cast him, then all the better.He could most likley pull it off, but i think they would tone down Joker if he were to be cast. And that would suck.

[The Question]

Why would they tone down The Joker? Cause Depp can't play a truely evil, sadistic bastard? Poppycock! Poppycock I say!!! Depp's a great actor, and really gets into his characters. Hell, if he did any reaserch on the character, he'd probably refuse to let them tone him down.

[Timstuff]

Batman 2 and 3 are supposedly planned to be filmed back-to-back, so I'm sure Johnny Depp wouldn't have any trouble sticking around to reprise his role in #3, especially since Joker's role is supposed to be much smaller in #3. All he has to be around for is to be put on trial and spray Harvey Dent with his acid flower in court. Then, it's off to a maximum security cell where we won't see him till a few more films down the road, and by then he will be played by another actor.

[TimDrake64x]

Tim, there is no need to call someone an asswhipe or a turd. Mabey you should apologise?

true im sorry, i just got through reading robin3910somethin's post about how forever is better than returns and im listening to diamonds by kanye west so deepest apologise

[BK]

He could most likley pull it off, but i think they would tone down Joker if he were to be cast. And that would suck.
Umm...is there logic in the reasoning behind this?

[TimDrake64x]

no...theres not

[Postman]

The thing about Depp is that he does his own thing. I would be very concerned over his casting as the Joker for that reason. I wouldn't know which direction he would go with the character. Look I like Depp as much as the next guy and I think he's one of the top ten actors of his generation, but I just don't trust him with an iconic character like the Joker. I was worried what he was going to do with Wonka which was meh at least that's my opinion he didn't do a better job then Gene Wilder did. Wow you know thinking about it I think Wilder may have been an excellent Joker back in the day. Wait where am I....I'm rambling well like I said I just don't trust Depp with the Joker who knows what he would do with him. Sometimes his acting works and when it does its great, but at other times Sleepy Hollow and Charlie its still good but nothing special. That's just my opinion on the matter I think their are much better canidates out there. My personal favorite is Del Toro just in case any of you are wondering.

[spanish39]

Some of you people are sick. Johnny Depp is all of a sudden the new Crispin Glover. Someone will say that Andy Richter would be a great Joker and one or two more will agree and than all of a sudden Andy Richter is the new fanboy favorite. Come on guy's.

Depp would not be a good Joker for reasons stated before. Think P. Daddy in "Made". He was supposed to be some kind of underground mafia style thing and yet all it looked like was Vince Vaughn and Jon Favraue talking to P. Diddy instead. You didn't see this big bad gangster, you saw P. Diddy, and you saw him first before the gangster character. This is what will happen with Depp. A soon as The Joker makes his very first re-appearance people will be like, "Oh man! Look at Johnny Depp as The Joker! Depp is awesome.", instead of, "Oh man! There is The Joker man. Thats awesome.", and enjoy the film watching some unknown person who is only known to them as The new Joker as the film goes on. They would see a crazed maniac and Batman instead of that, "Willy Wonka, Keith Richards pirate dude", or, "Thats the guy from Edward Scissorhands, honey, Crybaby?".

So I hope some of you can understand this and be more giving with The character who rightfuly deserves attention instead of a guy who looks and acts good and cool and can pull off the Joker cause he has done other movies kinda like that. Think of The Joker first. I know some of you are newer but I have had enough Depp Damnit! cause you don't even know where it came from or what it means. BALE DAMMIT!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Oh, and Ty Burrell could be a decent Dent maybe.

[BK]

When it come to Joker casting, you are truly 'The Guard' of these arguments. :o

[darknight7]

doesnt do psycho films! have u seen secret window...that guy needed a whole house of white padded walls, and willy wonka isnt exactly the most sane man in the world. and to depp doesnt do sequels, the pirates of the caribean sequels (yes 2) are being shot back to back. and come on man look past the pouty face asswhipe hes a character actor and the joker is a great character...uncultured little turd

I actually just heard about that yesterdat (Depp being a family man)...

That is why he agreed to do Pirates and Wonka... right now he wants to make movies that his kids can watch. He wants his kids to be able to watch his films growing up, and leave a legacy for them. So therefor, there is bad chance of him playing a clown who kills people for kicks.

--dk7

[Weadazoid]

Look I am just going to put this out here I have already, but I feel it should be put out again.

Sean Penn would be idealic, why becasue his preseance would negate the Jack Nicolson comparison overdrive that everyone is going to be in a frenzy over anyway.

Many worry that a Batman movie would be too hollywood for this star, but I don't think so. We all agree BB was not simply a dumb action movie, the acting was powerful, maybe not Oscar worthy but powerful, the writing and the directing was supurb.

All of these things are an attraction IMO to an actor like Penn. This wasn't some huge obease block buster like Spiderman, the sequal would not carry that feel, and Penn may be enticed by that. If you get Penn in as Joker, you may get some looks from the academe for an Oscar nod, just because he would bring us a Joker that Nolan, and Goyer have created. Not an over the top cartton of a cartoon, but a serious look into the mind of a pychotic killer that calls himself the Joker. A wild foray into the Dark Knights greatest enemies.

[Trigger]

meh. I've never been a fan of Sean Penn. His acting may catch an academy's attention, but for the same reason Spanish39 doesn't want Depp, I don't want Penn. IMO whenever I see a movie with Penn in it, he is almost always overshadowed by a co-star.

[Dangerous]

I like that Mark Hamill has now been expunged from the possibles for Joker.

[carphalen5150]

I like that Mark Hamill has now been expunged from the possibles for Joker.

Me too...last thing we need is an aging Luke Skywalker in Depends playing one fo the most important roles in a long, long time.

[The Question]

Some of you people are sick. Johnny Depp is all of a sudden the new Crispin Glover. Someone will say that Andy Richter would be a great Joker and one or two more will agree and than all of a sudden Andy Richter is the new fanboy favorite. Come on guy's.

Depp would not be a good Joker for reasons stated before. Think P. Daddy in "Made". He was supposed to be some kind of underground mafia style thing and yet all it looked like was Vince Vaughn and Jon Favraue talking to P. Diddy instead. You didn't see this big bad gangster, you saw P. Diddy, and you saw him first before the gangster character. This is what will happen with Depp. A soon as The Joker makes his very first re-appearance people will be like, "Oh man! Look at Johnny Depp as The Joker! Depp is awesome.", instead of, "Oh man! There is The Joker man. Thats awesome.", and enjoy the film watching some unknown person who is only known to them as The new Joker as the film goes on. They would see a crazed maniac and Batman instead of that, "Willy Wonka, Keith Richards pirate dude", or, "Thats the guy from Edward Scissorhands, honey, Crybaby?".

So I hope some of you can understand this and be more giving with The character who rightfuly deserves attention instead of a guy who looks and acts good and cool and can pull off the Joker cause he has done other movies kinda like that. Think of The Joker first. I know some of you are newer but I have had enough Depp Damnit! cause you don't even know where it came from or what it means. BALE DAMMIT!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Oh, and Ty Burrell could be a decent Dent maybe.


I didn't see Gary Oldman when Gordon came on. I didn't see schindler or Kinsey or Qui Gon when Ra's came on. Give the actors and the movie going puplic more credit. Also, people won't see Depp because he won't look like Depp. In every role I've seen him in he practically looks like a different person. And he's not the new Glover because Glover sucks. Depp at least has range.

[NOFX]

When it come to Joker casting, you are truly 'The Guard' of these arguments. :o
I thought I was "The Guard" in the Joker threads. :D :cool:

[Goldenage Batman]

I would love to see a pure evil, and diabolical Joker on the big screen, if he is choosen next for the sequel. (I'd rather see other villian first.) But if they went with The Joker I like the look of him in the Batman Dead End Short Film:


http://www.starland.com/news/2003/images/030724joker.jpg

I think that is a great look with the straight jacket, but eventually get him out of the straight jacket and into the famous purple attire, but not a bright purple, more of a dark purple. And of course he would have to be insanely funny, not too campy or over the top, but just insane to the point where your like whoa, and it sends shivers down your spine when your watching him on the screen.

I am not really sure who I would go with for an actor on The Joker, I will get back to you on that one.

Great official Joker thread by the way.

.....Guys know that's Boner from the Growing Pains show?....it is...

[The Question]

heh heh....






boner...



heh heh...

[spanish39]

I saw Gordon when Goldman came on cause he is dead on to the character. He is one of the best if not THE best example of GREAT casting. Hell, Goldman may be the most accurate comic adapted charater to a film ever. I do have to admit Neeson reminded me a lot of Qui-Gon. Especially in that scene with the camp fire but like he had shorter hair lol. With "Ra's" I only saw Watanabe really, cause I sure didn't see Ra's. I saw the golden child all grown up. Neeson resmbled Ra's good though just saw Neeson more than Ra's. I watch these films for what they are and what they have to offer. I can imagine these characters being who they are, but in reality while watching these films the characters stick better if it's someone you have never seen before against a very familiar face in a lot of movies.

Think American Pie. The first time we watched all those kids it was hilarious, they were nothing more than characters in a film, we did not know anything about them. You were able to enjoy the film in all it's greatness or whatever. Though one the 3rd film roles around and they have been in other films and in the news for whatever reasons, that stuff comes to mind first over the character now. Stifler wasn't as funny once he became Sean William Scott and we knew him. Same goes with my Depp and Penn example.

Am I crazy or does this not make any sense to anyone? Honestly? I'm dissing no one, just asking if it's a valid point cause I believe it is.

[The Question]

It does make some sense. That isn't exactly how it is with me, but hey. Different strokes....


But with Depp, the thing is he literally looks like a different person in each part. Would you recognize Captain Jack Sparrow as Willie Wonka, or Edward Scisor hands as Ed Wood?

[antmanx68]

I saw Gordon when Goldman came on cause he is dead on to the character. He is one of the best if not THE best example of GREAT casting. Hell, Goldman may be the most accurate comic adapted charater to a film ever.


Its Oldman not Goldman... and he is NOT nor has he ever been "dead on to the character". NO ONE suggested him for Gordon because his body of work doesnt point to Gordon. Especially in a series like Batman that is filled with colorfully deranged psychos (Oldman's specialty). He was able to pull off Gordon perfectly because he's so versatile, but for the same reason you dont want Depp would have been the reason why i WOULDNT have wanted Oldman for Gordon. He has pulled off some very extreme and unique characters in his career. Dracula being the biggest one for me, who the hell would think the guy who played crazy ass, piss your pants scary dracula could have made a picture perfect commisioner Gordon? Same thing goes for Depp, he is smart and cooky enough to play a great Joker, if you let the fact that he's JOHNNY DEPP get in the way of the character then thats your thing. He probably wouldnt do it for his own reasons, but if he did he'd be totally great. If you tell him to be a homocidal Willy Wonka on laughing gas then you're there.... throw in some make-up, hair, and teeth and he'll do the rest.

[BK]

It does make sense, hell, it applies to almost every famous actor/actress out there. But...there are exceptions. And those exceptions are for the "chameleons". Oldman, and especially Depp go under this category. Look at every role these 2 have played, they look and act different each and every time. I even remember Depp being quoted that these qere his intentions. So that's why if he is cast, especially by Nolan, I'll be the last person here complaining about it.

[The Question]

Exactly. Depp looks like a completely different person in each and every one of his roles. I mean, doeshttp://potc.arwen-undomiel.com/images/Jack_2.jpg look anything like http://maggie.unixdaemons.com/edward.jpg or http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/albums/CharlieFactory/Poster.sized.jpg ?

[Timstuff]

I'm currently convinced that it would be nearly impossible for Depp to be a "bad selection". :p

[The Kid]

heh heh....






boner...



heh heh...

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8143/jjjjbonerjjj3ju.gif

[The Question]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:joker: :joker:












*right clicks. Saves*









BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:joker: :joker:

[Detective Flass]

Alright. I have a new candidate for you. I was watching The Girl Next Door on HBO last night and if Timothy Olyphant doesn't give a Joker esque performance, then I don't know what the hell it was! At one point he is in a car with a teenager, and the teenager cost him $30,000 because his porn star quit the business for the teen. The Sleezy Porno Producer Olyphant plays pretends he wants a blowjob from the teen to get even, then tells him he's kidding. The two share a laugh, then Olyphant beats the **** out of the teen's face and then gives him drugs. Timothy Olyphant is an excellent actor, he's the star of Deadwood, The Girl Next Door, Dreamcatcher and many other films and television shows.

http://www.cheapestdvdmovies.com/timothy-olyphant.jpg
http://www.nndb.com/people/589/000056421/olyphant.jpg



Age: 36
Height: 6'0
Weight: 186 Pounds

[antmanx68]

nah

[The Question]

He doesn't look very Jokery. I'm not knocking his skills. I'm just saying there are alot of good actors who look more like The Joker or could look like him with the proper make up and physicla fitness regim/diet.

[Keyser Soze]

Think outside the speculation/dream casting/theories regarding pros and cons for the casting of the Joker (and I didn’t want to start another thread like so many do) and let’s jump forward to the day casting is announced. What would be your honest reaction if they cast someone that you have adamantly been against since it was first brought up on these boards? Either because the person is totally opposite of your choice or totally out of left field.

Example: He picks Jim Carrey this is the pick (for me) that would cause my head to spin around. Do I trust Nolan, who has made some great choices? Or refuse to see the movie cause I hate Carrey so much? I think I would have to go see it just like I did BF (didn’t like it and Carrey being in it just fueled my hate more).

I’m wondering on everyone else’s take. Crispin haters, Law Haters, etc.

I’m not sure if anyone else has done this, so sorry if this is a repeat...

This is an interesting point. What if someone we are against is cast in the role? Sorry for going back so far, but aside from the same old arguments being recycled and a healthy dose of spanish39's unproductive sarcasm, this was all I could find to comment on.

Personally speaking, I say we have to think positive. I have faith in Christopher Nolan. He proved himself as a genius director with "Memento", and showed he was the right man to lead the Batman franchise with "Batman Begins". If he casts someone like Crispin Glover, yes, I'll be a bit disappointed. But I'll try and keep an open-mind.

[spanish39]

I like Olephant, he is a good actor. I suggessted him back a few pages with Ifan Rehys and dude from Trainspotting.

I knew it was Oldman, just a type-o jeez, get crazy on me lmao.

Whatever Depp is awesome and I love the guy's skills but I don't want to see him as Joker, it would suck. His Wonka was not as cool as Gene's either and I can't believe he is finaly doing a sequel, that sucks. The man had morals he lived by and all of a sudden they are dropping like flys lol.

My sarcasim is so unproductive lmao

[gdw]

You know, there are several people who I wouldn't mind for J, but I honestly can't pick one to vote for.

I think in the end, if Nolan is directing and makes casting decisions anything like he did for Begins, I will love it.

[antmanx68]

I knew it was Oldman, just a type-o jeez, get crazy on me lmao.


Suuuure, typos dont strike twice! ;)


how about Edward Norton for Joker, i know everyone and their mother has already tossed his name around (mainly for Riddler) but i was re-watching Primal Fear and noticed he has a dastardly grin.


http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8347/edwardnorton0th.jpg

[Robin91939]

Suuuure, typos dont strike twice! ;)


how about Edward Norton for Joker, i know everyone and their mother has already tossed his name around (mainly for Riddler) but i was re-watching Primal Fear and noticed he has a dastardly grin.


http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8347/edwardnorton0th.jpg
where can I see the original picture?

-R

[The Nose Goblin]

http://www.goldenbeaus.com/s_penn/images/sean_penn11_jpg.jpg

http://www.droppingknowledge.org/images/participants/im/par_penn_01.jpg

http://www.celebritypicturesarchive.com/pictures/s/sean-penn/sean-penn-005.jpg

Say what you will about Sean Penn or his politics, you can't deny he'd bring some serious ****ing intensity to the role.

That being said, I don't know how likely he (or Johnny Depp for that matter) would do the movie(s).

[TimDrake64x]

the list:
johnny depp
alan cumming
sean penn

[Matis17]

where can I see the original picture?

-RPretty sure that's it.

[spanish39]

whatever antman, you've been around here long enough to know I know the difference lol.

[The Question]

the list:
johnny depp
alan cumming
sean penn

That right there is a pretty good list.

[The Kid]

hmm glover's owning this poll. oh and I like that picture of norton, but he can't laugh the joker's laugh, can he?

[The Question]

Yeah, but I'm not sold on his acting ability.

[Mr. Socko]

Vincent Cassel, Depp, Lachy Hulme. Either of those choices would be terrific.

[The Question]

I agree. What? I'm just trying to rack up posts.

[Mr. Socko]

I thought that drawing of Lachy Hulme as The Joker was great, it sold me on him doing the job.

[The Question]

It was a little much, but it worked.

[NOFX]

Damn I remember a time(03) when Jude Law was the fan fav :o

[The Nose Goblin]

Damn I remember a time(03) when Jude Law was the fan fav :o
Do you ever go a day without dropping 'Jude Law' in a sentence? :p

[FreeBeerForAll]

http://www.goldenbeaus.com/s_penn/images/sean_penn11_jpg.jpg

http://www.droppingknowledge.org/images/participants/im/par_penn_01.jpg

http://www.celebritypicturesarchive.com/pictures/s/sean-penn/sean-penn-005.jpg

Say what you will about Sean Penn or his politics, you can't deny he'd bring some serious ****ing intensity to the role.

That being said, I don't know how likely he (or Johnny Depp for that matter) would do the movie(s).

Thank You.

[NOFX]

Do you ever go a day without dropping 'Jude Law' in a sentence? :p
Well I average 8 post a day, and each of those post Jude Law is always mentioned!!! :cool:

[The Question]

That's just the littlest but patheric.

[NOFX]

That's just the littlest but patheric.
Yup, just look below of each of my post and Jude Law is mentioned :rolleyes: :cool:

[The Question]

.....damn your whitty use of the vernacular.

[The Nose Goblin]

.....damn your whitty use of the vernacular.
Look, if you're going to make fun of a person's witty use of the vernacular, you should probably spell the word 'witty' correctly.

You misspelled 'pathetic' in your previous post as well. :o


And though he isn't my choice, Jude Law wouldn't be a terrible Joker.

[The Kid]

I think osama bin ladin would be the perfect joker if he's ever found. He has the nose, the smile, and he's really seriously crazy.

[Craven]

I don't know if it's been done yet, but I'm going to throw Michael Keaton's name into the ring.

Here's a pic if someone wants to make a manip.

http://scifi.about.com/library/graphics/bj4.jpg

[Carmine Falcone]

hey, I just watched Beetlejuice. Keaton owns in it.

[Detective Flass]

Tim Roth for The Joker

http://www.robertofrankenberg.com/media/print/roth.jpg

http://crazy4cinema.com/Actor/imgs/roth.jpg

http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/personalidades/atores/tim-roth/tim-roth01.jpg

http://www.double-whammy.com/photos/tim_roth.jpg

http://manoloshoeblog.com/images/pradaroth.jpg

http://www.ecrannoir.fr/dossiers/cinema99/acteur16.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/magitulipe/hpbimg/roth.jpg

[Trigger]

What has Tim Roth done lately? I can't think of any thing he's been in. I wouldn't mind Defoe if it wasn't for the fact that he has already done SM1

[Detective Flass]

What has Tim Roth done lately? I can't think of any thing he's been in.



A Doll's House (in production)
Triomf (pre-production)
The Death of Harry Tobin (pre-production)
In the Shadow of Wings (pre-production)
Decameron: Angels & Virgins (post-production)
Even Money (post-production)
Dark Water
Don't Come Knocking
The Last Sign
Nouvelle-France
Silver City
Late Night Shorts
With It
The Beautiful Country
To Kill a King
Whatever We Do
Killing Emmett Young
The Musketeer
Invincible
Planet of the Apes
Lucky Numbers
Vatel
The Million Dollar Hotel

Since 2000. :up:

[Craven]

hey, I just watched Beetlejuice. Keaton owns in it.

Same. I watched it last night. I think that he can definetly pull off Joker.

[Matis17]

Same. I watched it last night. I think that he can definetly pull off Joker.Regardless, it would never happen in a million years.

[Craven]

^ Why not?

Another Keaton.

http://www.film.org.pl/images/beetlejuice/beetlejuice_5.jpg

[Weadazoid]

http://www.goldenbeaus.com/s_penn/images/sean_penn11_jpg.jpg

http://www.droppingknowledge.org/images/participants/im/par_penn_01.jpg

http://www.celebritypicturesarchive.com/pictures/s/sean-penn/sean-penn-005.jpg

Say what you will about Sean Penn or his politics, you can't deny he'd bring some serious ****ing intensity to the role.

That being said, I don't know how likely he (or Johnny Depp for that matter) would do the movie(s).


what I have been saying all along

[Matis17]

^ Why not?

Another Keaton.

http://www.film.org.pl/images/beetlejuice/beetlejuice_5.jpgDo you really have to ask?

[The Question]

Oh, because he plaed Batman. 16 YEARS AGO!!!!! Plus, does he look like Batman in Beetle Juice? Not in the slightest. Makeup is a mgaical thing.

[Mr. Socko]

Bringing in Batman from Tim Burton's films to play the Joker in the new series would be stupid imo. Especially when there are people who would do better then Keaton.

[Matis17]

Yes because he played Batman 16 YEARS AGO!!!!! 13 actually if you consider Batman Returns. No amount of make-up would make the audience forget that. It's a patently bad idea as I'm sure Nolan and WB know damn well.

[Craven]

Do you really have to ask?

I don't really see why he couldn't return to the franchise as a villain. He's certainly not my first choice, but I wouldn't exclude him because he was Batman. I honestly wouldn't mind it if, as scarce a chance as it is, Keaton was cast to play the Joker.

[The Kid]

keaton is an excellent choice, but nolan's going with robin williams I'm sure.

[Mr. Socko]

Keaton says he doesn't want to have anything to do with Batman anymore and he won't come back, but I guess he was meaning he won't come back as Batman. I'll look for the interview where he says it.

[Matis17]

I don't really see why he couldn't return to the franchise as a villain. He's certainly not my first choice, but I wouldn't exclude him because he was Batman. I honestly wouldn't mind it if, as scarce a chance as it is, Keaton was cast to play the Joker.Okay, so maybe you and a few other fringe groups out there could see past it but to the masses it would look like nothing short of insanity to cast the former Batman as Joker in the face of so many other qualified actors.

[SpiderSensesTingling]

Tim Curry

[Psycho Hulk]

Tim Curry

Your Spidey senses must be tingling with Antici.........pation!

[Dark Knight]

http://www.goldenbeaus.com/s_penn/images/sean_penn11_jpg.jpg

http://www.droppingknowledge.org/images/participants/im/par_penn_01.jpg

http://www.celebritypicturesarchive.com/pictures/s/sean-penn/sean-penn-005.jpg

Say what you will about Sean Penn or his politics, you can't deny he'd bring some serious ****ing intensity to the role.

That being said, I don't know how likely he (or Johnny Depp for that matter) would do the movie(s).


this is the man that should be the Clown Prince of Crime! Right here! :joker:

[MattP]

Ive really warmed to the idea of Tim Curry as has been suggested by some on here.

To wit: He can be flamboyant (Rocky horror)
Can be funny (Clue, Home alone 2, Loaded weapon etc)
Plays villains (pretty much anything)
Played psycho killer clown (IT)

But as some have pointed out he looks a lot different now but hes one hell of an actor and always a delight to watch.

[Dark Knight]

the list:
johnny depp
alan cumming
sean penn


u mean....THE list....

1. Penn
2. Roth
3. Depp
4. Bettany
5. Del Toro

[Craven]

Okay, so maybe you and a few other fringe groups out there could see past it but to the masses it would look like nothing short of insanity to cast the former Batman as Joker in the face of so many other qualified actors.

Sort of like the insanity of casting Christopher Reeve ,a former Superman, as Dr. Virgil Swann in Smallville? I don't remember there being much of an outcry about that.

[Mr. Socko]

Sort of like the insanity of casting Christopher Reeve ,a former Superman, as Dr. Virgil Swann in Smallville? I don't remember there being much of an outcry about that.

very good point, can't argue with that:o

[BatmanRules33]

I don't know if it's been done yet, but I'm going to throw Michael Keaton's name into the ring.

Here's a pic if someone wants to make a manip.

http://scifi.about.com/library/graphics/bj4.jpg

looking at that pic, i cannot BELIEVE thats was batman, LOL. but yeah, keaton owns.:up:

[spanish39]

I'm losing brain cells reading this thread anymore lmao

Keaton as Joker? They already thought of that 14 years ago. They said he could either role really. I said it guy's, if it was Andy Richter people would just start yelling out, "YEAH! Andy is great!", but I was wrong, it was Keaton.

DJ WALLS FOR JOKER!
DENZEL FOR JOKER!

[The Question]

No.

[BatmanRules33]

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6075/bj40yy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

KEATON FOR JOKER DAMNIT!!!



























im kidding:joker:

[batsone]

I didn't see Gary Oldman when Gordon came on. I didn't see schindler or Kinsey or Qui Gon when Ra's came on. Give the actors and the movie going puplic more credit. Also, people won't see Depp because he won't look like Depp. In every role I've seen him in he practically looks like a different person. And he's not the new Glover because Glover sucks. Depp at least has range.Thats because Oldman is a frickin master. I bet you half of the people that have seen 'True Romance' didn't even know he was the villian in that movie. He is that damn good.

[The Question]

Thats because Oldman is a frickin master. I bet you half of the people that have seen 'True Romance' didn't even know he was the villian in that movie. He is that damn good.

Well.....yes. But you must admit, Depp is also very chamilionic.

[Detective Flass]

As is Gary Oldman's best friend and theater pal Tim Roth who was trained to act with Oldman.

[Timstuff]

Well.....yes. But you must admit, Depp is also very chamilionic.

This much is very true. You can hardly recognize him in half the roles he's done. I'm sure he'd make an awesome Joker. :up:

[Cold2daToucH004]

I think I'd make a good joker. And thats definetly not complimenting myself (and its not only cause I think I have the look).

I'm a young actor/writer. I think I have intensity, and a pretty menacing look. Though I'm not to tall (5'7). If I smacked on some white facial paint... darkened the area around my eyes to make myself look as though I haven't slept in years... I think I'd make a hell of a Joker.

[batsone]

Well.....yes. But you must admit, Depp is also very chamilionic.I'm not against Depp in the roll. I was just sayin......

























































Oldman DAMMIT!!!!!

[BatmanRules33]

Oldman DAMMIT!!!!!

for joker? whaa?:confused:

[Cold2daToucH004]

Is it worth posting a picture of myself? Maybe you manip wizards can work up something cool (Joker Style) Haha

[batsone]

for joker? whaa?:confused:Dude you really should read. I was speaking to lupus27 about THE OLDMANS skills.

As for Joker, I would like to see screen tests of Glover and Penn.

[BatmanRules33]

Dude you really should read. I was speaking to lupus27 about THE OLDMANS skills.

As for Joker, I would like to see screen tests of Glover and Penn.

whatever,i thought you were saying you want oldman for joker:confused: . also, i too would like to see penn as joker, i just saw some pics, and im all for him. wasnt he rumoured to be joker for a while?

[Mr. Socko]

I think Christian Bale should play The Joker ;)

[The Last Meatbag]

I think your mom should play the Joker she had me smiling last night:o

[BatmanRules33]

wheres shawn penn on the list!!?

[Mr. Socko]

I think your mom should play the Joker she had me smiling last night:o

She had me smiling too :o

[The Last Meatbag]

.............quit jacking off in the corner whie your mom has sex with your many fathers :mad:

[BatmanRules33]

.............quit jacking off in the corner whie your mom has sex with your many fathers :mad:

ok that was gross:down

[Mr. Socko]

.............quit jacking off in the corner whie your mom has sex with your many fathers :mad:

why:o

[The Last Meatbag]

Its not healthy

[Mr. Socko]

so...

[batsone]

whatever,i thought you were saying you want oldman for joker:confused: . also, i too would like to see penn as joker, i just saw some pics, and im all for him. wasnt he rumoured to be joker for a while?How about this guy...
http://photobucket.com/albums/v216/batsone/Mr.jpgHe's great!!!!

[Mr. Socko]

Who is that?

[The Last Meatbag]

we have Jim Carrey on the boards

[batsone]

He is a B film guy.
He has only been in one film that I can think of, and it's only on the net.

[The Kid]

How about this guy...
http://photobucket.com/albums/v216/batsone/Mr.jpgHe's great!!!!

wow creepy. He'd kill as the riddler

[Mr. Socko]

Don't have much comment on him because I don't know if he can act or how he sounds. He certainly has the grin, but that isn't enough for Joker :o

[Detective Flass]

It's the dude who posted the picture. :o

[The Techno Bat]

Denis Leary?

[batsone]

It's the dude who posted the picture. :oWe have a weiner :eek: :)

[TimDrake64x]

can someone re-set the poll cause i seriously think peoples opinions have changed...i know mine have

[The Nose Goblin]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Modernman/penn.jpg

This is my sadly crude Paint manip of Sean Penn as the Joker.

[Brian2887]

The best Joker candidates are, in my mind, as follows.

5. Zach Braff (Garden State, Scrubs)
4. Steve Buscemi (Con Air, Ghost World)
3. Jeff Goldblum (Independence Day, Jurassic Park)
2. Jason Lee (Dogma, The Incredibles)
1. Tim Roth (Pulp Fiction, Rob Roy)


I know Braff isn't a traditional choice, but he's got the looks, and I think he has the chops. I'd definitely screen test him, at least.

[SatanBurger]

Man, Goldblum would be hilarious as The Joker, but not in any sort of positive sense. These ideas just get worse and worse.

[Brian2887]

Admittedly, he'd be a better Riddler. But, Goldblum has great acting chops and he plays creepy oh so well.

[mongo44]

Just for fun gang since the favorite past time on this thread seems to be "find a random picture on the net and suggest them for the Joker". But I've mentioned before that I'll be watching a TV show or movie and someone pops up. Then I go "Hey good Joker". So here is my latest candidate, Ryan Reynolds.



He has a pretty solid range and experience. He could do the comic and disturbed. And he is physically intimidating and looks like he could hold his own. If you disagree just consider it “cleansing the palate”.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/the_amityville_horror/ryan_reynolds/amitypreo2.jpg

But I think the decision is in the finalization period if not already a done deal. So I think at this point it’s just hurry up and wait.

I’ve actually gotten the idea that a decision was made long ago, now we are only getting our chains jerked.

PS. I’m not picking Ryan, I already have my personal list no matter if anyone makes it or not:



Johnny Depp

Jason Lee

Zach Braff

[DIRECTOR]

Jude Law would be Awesome as the Joker

[LastSunrise1981]

I stand by my opinion that Crispin Glover would make an excellent Joker. Upon watching Willard, I began to see some Joker like performances, and in certain scenes where he's going insane, it all reminds me of The Joker and I'm sure others will disagree with me here.

[Detective Flass]

Just for fun gang since the favorite past time on this thread seems to be "find a random picture on the net and suggest them for the Joker". But I've mentioned before that I'll be watching a TV show or movie and someone pops up. Then I go "Hey good Joker". So here is my latest candidate, Ryan Reynolds.



He has a pretty solid range and experience. He could do the comic and disturbed. And he is physically intimidating and looks like he could hold his own. If you disagree just consider it “cleansing the palate”.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/the_amityville_horror/ryan_reynolds/amitypreo2.jpg

But I think the decision is in the finalization period if not already a done deal. So I think at this point it’s just hurry up and wait.

I’ve actually gotten the idea that a decision was made long ago, now we are only getting our chains jerked.

PS. I’m not picking Ryan, I already have my personal list no matter if anyone makes it or not:



Johnny Depp

Jason Lee

Zach Braff





He's already casted as The Flash. Pick Tim Roth :up:

[mongo44]

He's already casted as The Flash. Pick Tim Roth :up:

How did I miss that announcement? Man! Or maybe I did hear about it and CRS is already affecting me at my age...

































How did I miss that announcement? Man! Or maybe I did hear about it and CRS is already affecting me at my age

[Spidey-Bat]

He's already casted as The Flash. Pick Tim Roth :up:

No he isn't.

[Detective Flass]

Reynolds IS playing The Flash. Go look around.

[Digital_Ashes]

Tim Curry is my new favorite, outside of Paul Bettany and Crispin Glover

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/hh/0000347/HH/0000347/CurryTim.JPG?path=pgallery&path_key=Curry,%20Tim%20(I)

Hell, he was the 2ND pick for Joker in the original, he's an amazing cult actor, who even though he is forty years older than BM he can still do it.

[NOFX]

Jude Law would be Awesome as the Joker
:up:

[spanish39]

Gene Wilder for Joker!

I watched Young frankenstein and Willy Wonka and Blazing Saddles and the producers and I saw some "Joker like qualities" in his performance leading me to believe he could do it, screw age right? I man the guy is a mad man.

Burt Reynolds for Joker! I watched Smokey and the bandit and Canonball Run and I heard his voice on Robot Chicken, oh and in Boogie Nights. Man that gut would OWN the role, who cares about his age, he slightly resembles Joker and his acting skills are what are the most important right? He plays funny blooper real characters so good. The original longest yard? I mean come on, academy gold. Forget it guys, Reynolds all the way.

CRACK KILLS PEOPLE

[antmanx68]

Tim Curry is my new favorite, outside of Paul Bettany and Crispin Glover

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/hh/0000347/HH/0000347/CurryTim.JPG?path=pgallery&path_key=Curry,%20Tim%20(I)

Hell, he was the 2ND pick for Joker in the original, he's an amazing cult actor, who even though he is forty years older than BM he can still do it.

I would have loved it for him back then, but he is quite older looking now. Like Nicholson style.... he is a great actor though. Pennywise and Darkness are two of my all time scariest movie villains and he brought them both to life. No for Joker though.

[Psycho Hulk]

http://urbanstar.com/goldblum/jg.jpg
"I could easily defeat batman...by giving him...a...cold...cold floor...virus...virus!" :o

(JOKE BY THE WAY)
----
---
---
but in all seriousness, was...

Jason Isaacs ever mentioned?:

http://miqque.50megs.com/images/LEG/isaacs-jason.jpg
http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1069522517714_2003/11/24/peterpan,0.jpg
http://eur.yimg.com/i/xp/premier_photo/5/502edb93cc.jpg

[SilentType]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/SilentType/jokes.jpg

[The Question]

I like the Depp one and the one next to Depp. They look the most Jokery.

[Dark Knight]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/SilentType/jokes.jpg


cool! can be improved upon.....but a nice start. you have to shape the red face makeup in more of smile shape....for all of them.

[batsone]

^ the left or the right?

[Dark Knight]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Modernman/penn.jpg

This is my sadly crude Paint manip of Sean Penn as the Joker.


Cool though! Penns eybrows give him a sinister looking Joker look IMO.

[The Question]

^ the left or the right?

Right.

[Dark Knight]

someone try a Vince Vaughn as Joker manip! After seeing Wedding Crashers, he would be an interesting choice.....but i don't know how well he would be able to handle the dramatic aspects of the character.

[antmanx68]

someone try a Vince Vaughn as Joker manip! After seeing Wedding Crashers, he would be an interesting choice.....but i don't know how well he would be able to handle the dramatic aspects of the character.


Vince Vaughan is great at doing serious stuff too. I wouldnt mind seeing him as two face or something (except he's not handsome enough IMO). But no for Joker. And I dont see what people see in Sean Penn for Joker either.... he's kind of an anti-Joker if you ask me. He's a great actor (overrated IMO) but why Joker? Just cuz he's scary looking and talented? He's never played anything very Jokerish unless im missing something. If he got it I think we'd have another Nicholson on our hands... a talented big name doing whatever they want in the role and not being the character.

[igotatromboner]

Psycho Hulk, I literally just rofl at that Jeff Goldblum joke.

Also, Vince Vaughn has done a few serious rolls, the Psycho remake and Brokedown Palace. He can pull if off. Plus we get the height Joker needs.

[Psycho Hulk]

Psycho Hulk, I literally just rofl at that Jeff Goldblum joke.
.

:D I try my best to lighten the mood!

[The Kid]

Anyone remember that laughing villian from robocop 1? He would have been a great joker.

[Dark Knight]

Psycho Hulk, I literally just rofl at that Jeff Goldblum joke.

Also, Vince Vaughn has done a few serious rolls, the Psycho remake and Brokedown Palace. He can pull if off. Plus we get the height Joker needs.


yeah...i think Vaughn would be an interesting choice as Joker. I would rather see him, then Lachy "Who"?? Hulme, thats for sure! He can do crazy funny, crazy psycho killer, homicidal maniac who is unpredictable. He has the height and the face. He has a big crazy smile also..... :joker:

[BatmanRules33]

edit.

[Matis17]

Sort of like the insanity of casting Christopher Reeve ,a former Superman, as Dr. Virgil Swann in Smallville? I don't remember there being much of an outcry about that.Totally different situation. A better comparison would be if they'd had him play Lex Luthor.

[Timstuff]

Is it true that Depp said on Leno that he's interested in playing Joker? That'd be awesome if true! I think I saw that episode, but I wasn't paying much attention.

[antmanx68]

I did not hear that, i doubt its true.

[TheBat812]

Reynolds IS playing The Flash. Go look around.
no he's not confirmed. He's the favorite.

[antmanx68]

Whoa, someone on another board mentioned the Depp on Leno thing too. He said that Depp said they approached him to be Joker. And You'd have to be crazy if you think anyone but Ryan Reynolds will end up as The Flash. Goyer is writing and directing, he's in bed with DC and Reynolds is and has been the only person he wants, and Reynolds said hed love to do it.

[Dark Knight]

Depp mentioned this on Leno?? Was this recently while promoting Charlie?? What else was said....how did the conversation about him being approached get started??

[Boom]

Depp as The Joker would be ****** fantastic. I'd love that.

[antmanx68]

Depp mentioned this on Leno?? Was this recently while promoting Charlie?? What else was said....how did the conversation about him being approached get started??


I have no idea. I didnt see it. Somone a few posts up asked about it, and i found on another board someone said that he did mention it.

[The Question]

I don't watch Leno. I'm on the computer until Conan comes on. He's way funnyer than Leno.

[pieeye]

Hello everybody,

I have a pretty sweet manip that I want to show on here but I cant seem to attach anything. At the bottom of the page it says that I may not post attachments. Does anyone know why this is happening.

-pieeye

[antmanx68]

because you need to have a certain number of posts in order to gain use of attatchments. Just go to www.imagshack.us

[spanish39]

Why in the hell would Depp even talk about Batman or Joker or anything related to it when he is in a rival summer film? Or just the fact that he has nothing to do with Batman. Why? Because of Burton? LMAO. ahh fanboys.

Oh, and that pic of all the Joker manips looks like a poster for "Pircilla: Queen of the deesert" or "Too Wong Foo" lol




You guys? You know what? I don't have virtually ANY time at all to do anything and it may take a while and also I promised one before it to Jett at BOF but......I would draw out ONE or TWO, no more, of the canidates for Joker like I did for Lachy Hulme. I did promise Jett a full length Hulme pic but I have been so busy with life that I have not had time, and I can't make any promises. Though I could probably convince you guy's that Bill CLinton would be a good Joker. I just believe that ART is better than MANIPS.

[pieeye]

Hello,

I am new to the SHH Board. I am currently training to work in films as a Production Designer (Concept Artist). I am primarily an Illustrator and Graphic Artist. I wanted to share my manipulation for The Joker based on the actor Christopher Eccleston. While he may be a more unpopular pick, I believe he has the talent and the physical attributes to pull this character off on the big screen.
Many people have mentioned that the actor who is picked for this chracter must be adept at comedy but I believe that an actor who focuses more on the depth of the character would succeed. The Joker's humor is not the kind of humor you go and see at a comedy club. His humor is based on the inane, the complex, and the ironic aspects of life. He is more diabolical, not merely a serial killer. It has always seemed to me that The Joker kills more to make a sordid point than just for bloodlust. I have always seen him as a dapper and well-groomed criminal. Well-spoken, charming in a creepy way, and more graceful. I would compare his personality more to Hannibal Lecter than John wayne gacey (minus the cannibalism).
So if you would like me to explain more about the origin of his physical features please, lets have a discussion. For the most part, this make-up treatment on Eccleston would require only minor manipulations. Mostly, the chin would have to be slightly extended, and a slightly modified set of dentures that expose a little more gum than usual would do the trick. Ecclestons nose is perfect and his natural laughing lines need only minor topical applications to complete the effect. This method would allow him more freedom of expression which was heavily lacking in Burtons version of the character He would have to get is eyebrows shaved or covered to allow for a slightly modified brow hair pattern. So here you go:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/christopherecclestnrealjoke.jpg

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1285717.jpg

Hope you all like it!!

-pieeye

Oh, By the way, I have a feeling that Nola will do what he wants to do. Warner Bros. may have gambled a bit with bale but the dollar signs should quell any nervousness they may have of Nolans casting choices.

[spanish39]

Not bad, I did think it was Berry Pepper at first though. Between you and me we could draw up all these guys insted of using manips.

What did you do? Did you do it all on computer, looks like it, or actully draw it up and scan it in? It looks more like Chalk than pencil or anything.

[pieeye]

hello,

I did a full drawing and then I scanned it in overlaying it on the pic, and then I manipulated. What you see is a combo of both the picture and the drawing together.

-pieeye

[pieeye]

I will be starting my own thread and displaying the drawings as well as the manips soon enough.

[spanish39]

well it gives off a good reflection. It makes the pic kinda jump off the page slightly more than to just draw and scan. Good idea, you should post up just the drawing though as well. Why not ya know

[spanish39]

I did this of Lachy Hulme a WHILE back, lol, when he was first mentioned. I think it's been like a year and half almost.

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL234/2069988/4014502/74011103.jpg

[Psycho Hulk]

Welcome to the Boards Pieeye! lovely er...concept! :D

Ah, Spanish39 and Pieeye! You guys have some great talents!

[pieeye]

I remember seeing that on BOF
I thought it was pretty good

[pieeye]

So here is the original drawing that I used to render the manipulation. I primarily spend my time drawing out my ideas before I do anything with them on Illustrator or photoshop. This is actually the first time I have ever done any kind of photomanipulation. While it is true that it is better to physically draw things out first, I was really trying to go more for a photoreal version of my drawing. You will notice the differences in the graphite drawing. I was about 75% acurate on the facial proportions when I sized them up (it was all done by eye, no tracing). I am also working on some other sketches that will show different angles, and i am trying my hand at a photoreal high definition illustrator rendering (http://www2.odn.ne.jp/emibanban/html/sonota/ga01.html) as well.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/ecclestonunderdrawing.jpg

-pieeye

[antmanx68]

Why in the hell would Depp even talk about Batman or Joker or anything related to it when he is in a rival summer film? Or just the fact that he has nothing to do with Batman. Why? Because of Burton? LMAO. ahh fanboys.

Oh, and that pic of all the Joker manips looks like a poster for "Pircilla: Queen of the deesert" or "Too Wong Foo" lol




You guys? You know what? I don't have virtually ANY time at all to do anything and it may take a while and also I promised one before it to Jett at BOF but......I would draw out ONE or TWO, no more, of the canidates for Joker like I did for Lachy Hulme. I did promise Jett a full length Hulme pic but I have been so busy with life that I have not had time, and I can't make any promises. Though I could probably convince you guy's that Bill CLinton would be a good Joker. I just believe that ART is better than MANIPS.

That was kind of an overall disrespectful post. You talk about your Art like everyone should be really excited about it... sorry its not so hot if you ask me.

[pieeye]

well to each his own and-man,

[pieeye]

wait, antman, i got you mixed up withsomeone else, sorry...

[antmanx68]

K ;)

Your picture is really awesome by the way, the manip is out of this world.

[pieeye]

thank you antman, and ignore what I posted before, I mis read the whole thing, damn quotes!!

[Hades]

Aren't Jude and Depp too...good looking for the joker? i've always seen him as a rather ugly chap.

[darknight7]

Hello,

I am new to the SHH Board. I am currently training to work in films as a Production Designer (Concept Artist). I am primarily an Illustrator and Graphic Artist. I wanted to share my manipulation for The Joker based on the actor Christopher Eccleston. While he may be a more unpopular pick, I believe he has the talent and the physical attributes to pull this character off on the big screen.
Many people have mentioned that the actor who is picked for this chracter must be adept at comedy but I believe that an actor who focuses more on the depth of the character would succeed. The Joker's humor is not the kind of humor you go and see at a comedy club. His humor is based on the inane, the complex, and the ironic aspects of life. He is more diabolical, not merely a serial killer. It has always seemed to me that The Joker kills more to make a sordid point than just for bloodlust. I have always seen him as a dapper and well-groomed criminal. Well-spoken, charming in a creepy way, and more graceful. I would compare his personality more to Hannibal Lecter than John wayne gacey (minus the cannibalism).
So if you would like me to explain more about the origin of his physical features please, lets have a discussion. For the most part, this make-up treatment on Eccleston would require only minor manipulations. Mostly, the chin would have to be slightly extended, and a slightly modified set of dentures that expose a little more gum than usual would do the trick. Ecclestons nose is perfect and his natural laughing lines need only minor topical applications to complete the effect. This method would allow him more freedom of expression which was heavily lacking in Burtons version of the character He would have to get is eyebrows shaved or covered to allow for a slightly modified brow hair pattern. So here you go:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/christopherecclestnrealjoke.jpg

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1285717.jpg

Hope you all like it!!

-pieeye

Oh, By the way, I have a feeling that Nola will do what he wants to do. Warner Bros. may have gambled a bit with bale but the dollar signs should quell any nervousness they may have of Nolans casting choices.

BY GOLLY!! I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT HIM!!!!!!!

...he definately has a great look as the Joker.


I like to consider myself a bit of an artist, surely not as good as you, but I have had some good drawings in the past. and WOW...

honestly, I was so impressed with your picture, that it gave me the urge to go draw...lol, great manip(drawing) I love it...


--dk7

[StrainedEyes]

http://www.renderosity.com/photos/ArtistArticle11597.jpg

[darknight7]

Anyone remember that laughing villian from robocop 1? He would have been a great joker.


Wheres Robocop, he could definately answer your question...

--dk7

[Spidey-Bat]

I thought of a new choice for Joker. My choice is well known and very funny, quite popular on the boards here.





















































Give up?














































































http://www.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/f/f2/175px-Conanobrien.jpg

(yes, I am kidding. But he does have a joker-like smile)

[antmanx68]

Aren't Jude and Depp too...good looking for the joker? i've always seen him as a rather ugly chap.

Well, they certainly ugly them up with Makeup. Willy Wonka wasnt all man pretty like Depp, and niether was Jude Law's character in Road to Perdition.... and that was with hardly any makeup compared to what Joker could have.

[Detective Flass]

NOTE: Depp did NOT mention that he was considered for Joker on Leno. I watched that episode. All he talked about was CATCF and some writer that died. Joker was not brought up. Even if Depp was considered he would not be able to release that information.

[Spidey-Bat]

NOTE: Depp did NOT mention that he was considered for Joker on Leno. I watched that episode. All he talked about was CATCF and some writer that died.

Hunter S. Thompson

[antmanx68]

OK, that settles that then. I didnt see the interview but i saw 2 seperate people who mentioned it so i thought it might have some truth to it.

[Keyser Soze]

I saw "Charlie And The Chocolate Factory" today, and I have to say that it has reaffirmed my opinion that Johnny Depp would make a GREAT Joker. If they could get him to do the role, I'm sure he would be phenomenal. However, I still fear he may be too big of a name.

However, if you're looking for some names that aren't quite as big, here are a few new suggestions:

Noah Taylor:

http://www.tribute.ca/tribute_objects/images/stars/noah_taylor.jpg

John C. McGinley:

http://www.dunas.com/entertainers/johnmcg7.jpg

Matt Dillon:

http://img.interia.pl/rozrywka/nimg/roz316614.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

Hmmm....one pic is way bigger than the others. It's not subliminal messaging, honest!

[aquiles]

i would put ashton kutcher as the joker he can do comedy as well as drama
and he has the joker look.the jaw,the face,skinny.

[spanish39]

That was kind of an overall disrespectful post. You talk about your Art like everyone should be really excited about it... sorry its not so hot if you ask me.

Call it whatever you want dude I could really care less lmao. I don't talk about my art like everyone should be excited about it all. You just see it that way. I talk about art in general being better than crappy stupid looking photo manips that everyone goes all gaga over. No one else is drawing on here so I'm saying that I would do more, I was just simply saying that I can't really get to it soon cause I have a LIFE and Jett asked me to do another one. Read it however you want, again, I could really care less.

And hey, if one person doesen't like my art it's not the end of the world to me, hell people liked CINO didn't they? IT takes all kinds to make the world turn so oh well. Plenty of people have told me it's rather good, so one negative comment doesn't really matter. Opinions are like a55holes anyways, everyone has one lol. Besides your just being negative cause of some bug I sent up your a55 with my last few posts, get over it man and move on. Depp's not going to be Joker, Penn's not going to be Joker, hell probably NONE od these people will be so whats your problem with me? Last time I checked I could say whatever I wanted to in this country, lol.

If you don't like my posts then just ignore them, what, haven't you been here long enough to know this? You know how I post so whats the deal lol?

Also to Piyee, sorry if I mispelled your name, the art alone looks better than the photo maniped version you did I think, IMO, but still pretty cool and thanks for the good comment on mine as well, some people ont hese boards get all antsy in their pantsies and over anal-ize things sometimes lol.

[BK]

You could've just put the 'lol' at the end and we would've gotten the point.




lol :o

[The Question]

Is your avatar depicting a Japanese girl engageing in sexual intercourse with a Pokemon?

[spanish39]

lol

there how is that?

sometimes I just kill myself......well, gotta fly

[BK]

Is your avatar depicting a Japanese girl engageing in sexual intercourse with a Pokemon?
What? What are you talking about? She's just getting a piggyback ride. :confused:







Ok, you got me. It is indeed what you presumed. Those silly japs...

:o

[Lobo]

I'm not going to go through this whole thread, but ny original choice is Jason Lee but he's going to be in some crap show called My Name is earl. I was trying to think outside the box for Joker casting and here's who I came up with. How would you all feel about Billy Bob Thornton as The Joker. if he's been suggested already I apologize. So how would you feel with him?

[Keyser Soze]

Billy Bob Thornton is an interesting sugestion. However, I think he falls under the cateogry of being a great actor who just doesn't fit with the character of The Joker.

[DrVenkman90]

Yeah thats true although he may be a guy that would introduce more people into the batman universe. Who knows he might be good.

[Clayface]

Glover dammit! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[antmanx68]

Call it whatever you want dude I could really care less lmao. I don't talk about my art like everyone should be excited about it all. You just see it that way. I talk about art in general being better than crappy stupid looking photo manips that everyone goes all gaga over. No one else is drawing on here so I'm saying that I would do more, I was just simply saying that I can't really get to it soon cause I have a LIFE and Jett asked me to do another one. Read it however you want, again, I could really care less.

And hey, if one person doesen't like my art it's not the end of the world to me, hell people liked CINO didn't they? IT takes all kinds to make the world turn so oh well. Plenty of people have told me it's rather good, so one negative comment doesn't really matter. Opinions are like a55holes anyways, everyone has one lol. Besides your just being negative cause of some bug I sent up your a55 with my last few posts, get over it man and move on. Depp's not going to be Joker, Penn's not going to be Joker, hell probably NONE od these people will be so whats your problem with me? Last time I checked I could say whatever I wanted to in this country, lol.

If you don't like my posts then just ignore them, what, haven't you been here long enough to know this? You know how I post so whats the deal lol?

Also to Piyee, sorry if I mispelled your name, the art alone looks better than the photo maniped version you did I think, IMO, but still pretty cool and thanks for the good comment on mine as well, some people ont hese boards get all antsy in their pantsies and over anal-ize things sometimes lol.

You have sent no bug up my ass... i can assure you of that. And yea, i do know how you post, and its usually rude. Nothing that you have said about who you think will/wont be cast as Joker has made me feel negatively about your art, it just isnt that good (because of your rudeness i dont mind telling you that.).... I enjoy looking at certain photo manips way more than your drawing that you consider "rather good" while putting down people's manips as "crappy." But hey, thats just my opinion (which i guess is like my a55hole, so dont let it affect you. Keep on churning out those mega important drawings of yours.... or however many you can when your LIFE doesnt get in the way.) :up:

[The Nose Goblin]

You have sent no bug up my ass... i can assure you of that. And yea, i do know how you post, and its usually rude. Nothing that you have said about who you think will/wont be cast as Joker has made me feel negatively about your art, it just isnt that good (because of your rudeness i dont mind telling you that.).... I enjoy looking at certain photo manips way more than you're drawing that you consider "rather good" while putting down people's manips as "crappy." But hey, thats just my opinion (which i guess is like my a55hole, so dont let it affect you. Keep on churning out those mega important drawings of yours.... or however many you can when your LIFE doesnt get in the way.) :up:

Well since today is apparently 'brutal honesty' day, I think I shall contribute to this topic as well.

My personal opinion, which is apparently like an a55hole, is that spanish's Joker drawing while not being awful, isn't particular good either.

In fact, I can't help but chuckle when folks pull it up and compare it to that picture of Lachey Hulme. With the exception of the hair and maybe the angle of the head, it looks nothing like him. Again, this is just my a55ho....er, opinion.

To date, the best Joker thing I've seen (drawing or otherwise) has been the Conrad Veit(sp?) manip (by Dan El I believe...correct me if i'm wrong)

But at the same time, spanish, I don't mean to discourage you in posting more Joker drawings.

I wouldn't mind seeing them.

[DrVenkman90]

ohhhh cat fight

[Brian2887]

Jason Lee

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dimension_films/jay_and_silent_bob_strike_back/jason_lee/jaypre5.jpg

http://www.dogma-movie.com/pics/bar/images/gunhappy.jpg

or

Tim Roth

http://www.henshinonline.com/images/ef_darkwater_roth.jpg

and the big picture....

http://www.kinomania.ru/stars/t/Tim_Roth/1024/1.jpg

[DrVenkman90]

None!!!!!

[Lobo]

I'm torn between Lee and Thornton

[psychocheeseman]

I Think Eccelstone would do an awesome job and it would help him get away from the typecasting from dr who, I think his abilities as an actor arebeing underestimated here, whoever said he was too british hasn't seen eXisTense. NOt a great film but Eccelstone seems far from british in that, Then agian i think Glover would also be pretty Cool as joker as well./

[TimDrake64x]

truthfully theres no choice that just screems perfect for the joker to me

[The Nose Goblin]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Modernman/087bc951.jpg

Another terrible Penn manip I did in Paint.

Someone with Photoshop please do a decent Sean Penn manip.

[Psycho Hulk]

Edit...Sorry, this was meant for the two-face board. wrong button.

[Timstuff]

Penn would be a bad choice IMO. He's about as funny as a box of toothpicks.

[The Nose Goblin]

Penn would be a bad choice IMO. He's about as funny as a box of toothpicks.
You mean in his private life? Yeah, that seems to be the case.

Then again I don't recall the Joker ever being that funny. I've always interpreted the character laughing at his own perverse sense of humor, while his victims are just frightened to death.

Plus, Penn is a fantastic actor.

Not to mention Penn has the intensity and scary edge (and screen presence) the Joker requires.

I'm not even saying he's my first choice, I'm just tired of hearing Crispin Glover and Tim Roth's names thrown around.

Just trying to mix it up I guess....

[darknight7]

Jason Lee

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dimension_films/jay_and_silent_bob_strike_back/jason_lee/jaypre5.jpg






Is it just me or do these 2 pics resemble eachother

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2485/batmanmanwholaughs4yw.jpg




















































its just me, isnt it? lol

--dk7

[Spidey-Bat]

slightly similar.

[The Kid]

looks a bit like he had some rhinoplasty, blech. Hollywood and their fake noses. Oh well they'll put gobs of make-up on whoever gets cast, fake nose or not. than zod for willem dafoe and his genetic predisposition to be the green gobling.. too bad they put him in that silly armor.

[TheJuice]

John Leguizamo or Geoffrey Rush


http://img.theatermania.com/news/images/1805a.jpg

http://www.maximonline.com/entertainment/reviews/editorial_images/a041202johnleguizamo.jpg

http://www.hispanianews.net/archive/2000/August04/john_leguizamo.gif

http://www.gunsinmovies.com/images/1911movies/romeo&juliet2.jpeg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/fox_searchlight/quills/geoffrey_rush/quills2.jpg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/fox_searchlight/quills/_group_photos/geoffrey_rush5.jpg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/house_on_haunted_hill/geoffrey_rush/hill.jpg

[spanish39]

Sorry I have to post such a long post but I have to respond to some conversations. Don't read unless you want to. Please don't make matters worse for the thread but adding positive or negative comments to either side of the conversation though, just keep on talking about the Joker guys cause thats why we are here in the 1st place, thanks.

Like I said, I could care less. I did what I did cause everyone was making crappy manips, and most maips are crap, so think whatever pleases your special place. It's not the person making the manips fault so I wasn't talking about any one person, but rather just manips in general. I didn't ask for any "catfight" here, antman just wants to go off topic cause I said something that made him feel like he had an opinion. It's all good. I mean it's not like he is being constructive in any way so......where are his manips that are so great? My work may or may not be my best stuff but at least I did something and put it out there, not caring if people like it or not really.I like it and thats really all that matters, if others do, cool. I wanted people to get an "idea" of what Hulme looks like as Joker so we could see why people were talking about him back then. I'm just glad antman is such a great judge of art and manips or anything really......oh wait, that was just his a55ho...ahh, opinion wasn't it?

Oh yeah Goblin, my pic of Hulme isn't supposed to look exactly like him cause he is, The Joker. Ya know? Make-up, prosthetics and whatever, so if people, or you, want to be one minded than be one minded if you will but like I said, whatever, thats you, it's all good. Chuckle, laugh, whatever, it looks like Hulme to me and to many others as well so......whatever lol. Oh yeah, and don't worry dude, your comments don't discourage me at all. I would keep doing whatever I want no matter who didn't or did like it despite their opinion. If people quit for reasons like that then who knows where any of us would be.

Love how you gave me the thumbs up by the way antman, you really showed me how sarcastic you were, pure genious, way to knock your point across. And I only post rude when I have something rude to say back to someone or if they keep posting the same pictures of Crispin Glover and Tim Roth cause we don't get it already ya know, well, lol, I guess you don't or you would know how I post. You say keep on churning out drawings blah, blah, blah, but if you paid any attention than you would have read I did that like a year and half ago, so let me tell ya I'm really "churning" 'em out like butta.

It's unfortunate that people get so lawful and feel they need to butt into conversations and stir up whatever and take threads off topic. I just want to talk about Joker and chat with people without the same pics and posts coming up time and time again. What's funny is I was talking to a new poster and made my own comments on manips in general, and the Joker compilation as well, and someone felt they had to stand up for whoever, themselves I guess, and make it personal. Who cares what you think antman? That's what pm's are for ya know? Don't you know how this works by now? Though I guess anything is better to read than GLOVER FOR JOKER or DEPP OWNS over and over again, more entertaining for you folks anyway right? Whatver keeps the thread alive and going, though I would rather talk about the Joker choices instead of my art antman, but thanks for bringing more and more attention to something you say you don't like so much but can't stop talking about. :up: (thats my sarcasim by the way, genious huh?)

Anything else you would like to add before we try and continue on antman? Oh I'm sure you do, though it would be in better taste if you don't, guess we will see huh lol?

[antmanx68]

Although John Leguizamo is awesomely talented im not thinking he could do joker.... anyways he's like 5'6" or something right?

[pieeye]

while we are on the subject...here is Eccleston as The Joker...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/christopherecclestnrealjoke.jpg

[spanish39]

Yeah John is kinda short, but he can play crazy pretty good. I don't know about him for The Joker though, maybe if he was a little taller and wasn't the Violater clown in the past.

[BK]

so......where are his manips that are so great?

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181642

Great stuff, you should check it out. :o :up:

[pieeye]

Hate to interrupt all the drama, but I thought I would include a few more examples of Chris sans-manipulation. His work on Dr. Who is now done, and he did work with Cillian Murphy in 28 days later oh and yes hes british but... surprize, so is almost everyone else associated with Begins.

http://www.anorakzone.com/christophereccleston/jude20.jpghttp://www.anorakzone.com/christophereccleston/24hourpartypeople22.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/christopherecclestnrealjoke.jpg

[DrVenkman90]

sorry but joker is american

[DrVenkman90]

Mark Hamill is American.... yeah..

[The Nose Goblin]

http://www.celebrity-exchange.com/celebs/photos48/josh-lucas.jpg
Okay, seriously, somebody has got to manip this picture!

Its just asking for it!

[DrVenkman90]

Yeah manip, by the way who is Bill Hicks. Cause my dads name is Bill Hicks

[The Nose Goblin]

Yeah manip, by the way who is Bill Hicks. Cause my dads name is Bill Hicks
One of the greatest comedians to have ever lived.

http://www.billhicks.com/bio.html

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000009QI/qid=1122714401/sr=8-13/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i13_xgl15/103-9340278-9135801?v=glance&s=music&n=507846

[DrVenkman90]

I think ill check him out. not like that perv

[darknight7]

im surprised no one has posted this picture of Chris Eccleston...

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7962/40957343cards2036us.jpg

--dk7

[Lobo]

im surprised no one has posted this picture of Chris Eccleston...

imghttp://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7962/40957343cards2036us.jpgimg

--dk7


You mean

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7962/40957343cards2036us.jpg

[darknight7]

I think he would be the absolute best choice for Joker (as long as he can cover up his British accent)...and talk with an American accent (like Oldman and Bale did)...

But other than that, look at the guy, his face is long, thin and pointed. He can look very creepy, hes tall, lanky, looks perfect to me... I would definately see THE JOKER, instead of seeing CHRISTOPHER ECCLESTON, because he isnt a HUGE name, and I think he should be considered. He has an extremely JOKERLEY look to him.

--dk7

[darknight7]

You mean

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7962/40957343cards2036us.jpg


ya i got it, its just the computer im on is messed up, and i had to copy and paste this

*/* and *[]*

cause the keys on my keyboard type ^ ç à

wem i try to type those other things...

--dk7

[SolidRoar]

Hate to interrupt all the drama, but I thought I would include a few more examples of Chris sans-manipulation. His work on Dr. Who is now done, and he did work with Cillian Murphy in 28 days later oh and yes hes british but... surprize, so is almost everyone else associated with Begins.

http://www.anorakzone.com/christophereccleston/jude20.jpghttp://www.anorakzone.com/christophereccleston/24hourpartypeople22.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/christopherecclestnrealjoke.jpgWasn't he rumored for the Scarecrow role once? He does remind me of Dr Crane from the comics. I like the Joker manip, though. It would be nice if they got that look for the Joker - especially the eyes.

[dogsgotlipstick]

Hate to interrupt all the drama, but I thought I would include a few more examples of Chris sans-manipulation. His work on Dr. Who is now done, and he did work with Cillian Murphy in 28 days later oh and yes hes british but... surprize, so is almost everyone else associated with Begins.

http://www.anorakzone.com/christophereccleston/jude20.jpghttp://www.anorakzone.com/christophereccleston/24hourpartypeople22.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/christopherecclestnrealjoke.jpg

that is flippin awesome; i take it you voted for eccleston? you should really post this on the unofficial christopher eccleston website forum... everyone there would love it; not to mention batman on film...

Christopher Eccleston has fantastic range as an actor; the only concern would be his fairly broad northern english accent... having said that i really hope that he get the gig...

...
fantastic stuff...

[Detective Flass]

John C. McGuinly would make a great Joker. :up:

[peejee1253]

Awesome pic Pieeye.

Everyone get what I was saying now?

Ecclestone for Joker (and he's Nolan's type of actor, remember).

[happy]

this thread sucks.

[pieeye]

well somebody had mentioned that beacause he wasnt American and he had a british accent he wouldnt make a good Joker. Well...come on ...think about it. Most british thespians if they are classically trained are able to loose the accent. Christian Bale is welsh, Gary Oldman is british, oh Cillian murphy is scottish?? what the hell...these people are in the business of coning you into believeing they are American. I have no doubt that Chris Eccleston could do the same and also make a fine Joker. Because he is not such a big name, I would say that he would define the role for years to come and no it would t be out of disrespect for our man Jack Nicholson. His portrayal was only one in the spectrum that is The Joker. Another great thing about Ecclesoton is that he has principle as an actor. He recently quit his role on the british show Dr. Who because he did not want to be typecast in that role. He also said he had some new Film projects in the works (HInt Hint). He is wanting to broaden his horizons and I think he desrves a shot at something big. Oh and thanks for suggesting the unofficial Eccleston page, Ill try to post it there.

[pieeye]

oh, ill be posting more work up as I get it done..Im working on two face right now.

[pieeye]

Hey thanks buddy, I think we should try to keep this thread alive and kicking. im not interested in seeing anymore Sean Penn, Johnny Depp, or Lachy Hulme posts. Many people would say..."I think Chris Eccleston would suck"... but if and when he is chosen and they get to see the first theatrical rendition of him in a teaser, they will totally change their minds. I mean, he has such a range as an actor. He can be serious, funny, tragic, insane...he needs to get a good role, one that will define his carreer, and I think he is well on his way to that.





Awesome pic Pieeye.

Everyone get what I was saying now?

Ecclestone for Joker (and he's Nolan's type of actor, remember).

[Brian2887]

John C. McGuinly would make a great Joker. :up:

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big John C. fan. I love his work on Scrubs, and he's a terrific character actor... But the Joker? McGinley is good at being sarcastic and rough around the edges, with some crazy behind his eyes. But, I'm not sure his voice / delivery are right for the Joker. Can he belittle a yonug doctor in a hilarious way? Most definitely. Can he excel in supporting roles? He's proven he can. Can he play Joker? I don't think so... I'd give him a screen test cuz he's so damn talented, but I just don't think he quite has the Joker in him.

[pieeye]

oh, please try and spread this manip as much as you can. I give you total permission to do that. I already sent it to BOF. If you can post it on the Unofficial Eccleston page please do so. Lets get this thing organized. Im working on a few more Manips of this guy, one almost full bodied. oh and if you check my concept art page you can see the drawing I used to create this piece.