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Keyser Soze
07-30-2005, 02:35 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'm a big John C. fan. I love his work on Scrubs, and he's a terrific character actor... But the Joker? McGinley is good at being sarcastic and rough around the edges, with some crazy behind his eyes. But, I'm not sure his voice / delivery are right for the Joker. Can he belittle a yonug doctor in a hilarious way? Most definitely. Can he excel in supporting roles? He's proven he can. Can he play Joker? I don't think so... I'd give him a screen test cuz he's so damn talented, but I just don't think he quite has the Joker in him.

Fair points. But if you look at John C. McGinley's other work, it's clear he can pull off darker roles. Plus, you have to see just a little bit of Joker in this pic:

http://www.dunas.com/entertainers/johnmcg7.jpg

pieeye
07-30-2005, 02:38 PM
Unfortnately, while he has some characteristics of the character,...he seems to be a little old for the role. I dont know, I have seen this picture thrown around in here for months but I would like to see a clearer color photograph of this guy

ecclesgirl
07-30-2005, 02:42 PM
Christopher Eccleston would be brilliant in the Joker role. Check out this screen cap of him in 'Death and the Compass'. he's a fine actor and did a brave gutsy rendition of Dr Who. He deserves a shot at the role. You should try posting that wonderful drawing of Chris on
http://www.smugmug.com/photos/28345630-M.jpg

Dark Donnie
07-30-2005, 02:48 PM
while we are on the subject...here is Eccleston as The Joker...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/christopherecclestnrealjoke.jpg
that's awesome!

Brian2887
07-30-2005, 02:50 PM
My top 6, as they stand now. This list has a tendency to change...

6. Giovanni Ribisi (Basic, The Gift)
http://www.moviemaze.de/celebs/0073/main.jpg

5. Robin Williams (One Hour Photo, Death to Smoochy)
http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/features/studiola/robin_williams_death_to_smoochy.jpg

4. Matthew Lillard (SLC Punk!, Scream)
http://www.geocities.com/chao_xing/mlil/mlil56.jpg

3. Christopher Eccleston (28 Days Later, The Others)
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1285717.jpg

2. Tim Roth (Planet of the Apes, Rob Roy)
http://www.henshinonline.com/images/ef_darkwater_roth.jpg

1. Jason Lee (Dogma, The Incredibles)
http://www.dogma-movie.com/pics/bar/images/gunhappy.jpg

Keyser Soze
07-30-2005, 02:51 PM
I don't know about Christopher Eccleston. On one hand, he's a phenomenal actor, plus he looks the part. But on the other hand, he left "Doctor Who" in the lurch after announcing he was quitting in the title role after only one episode. Could you depend on him to come back as The Joker in part 3?

As for John C. McGinley's age, he's 45 I believe.

Muze
07-30-2005, 02:54 PM
here's a few more pics for manipulation if anyone gets desperate. i really don't understand why people would be against Eccleston playing the Joker. he isn't "too british" looking and he's got the perfect features for a harlequin; long nose, big ears, wide smile, piercing eyes, tall, lanky, imposing, etc.

http://www.geocities.com/bvgh17/RTChris.jpg

works better if you highlight, copy, and paste into the address bar

http://www.geocities.com/bvgh17/ce.jpg (http://www.geocities.com/bvgh17/RTChris.jpgworks better if you highlight, copy, and paste into the address barhttp://www.geocities.com/bvgh17/ce.jpg)

http://www.geocities.com/bvgh17/ChrisOthello.jpg

geocities is unreliable, so here's a link to the actual site...
http://www.geocities.com/bvgh17/Imagesmain.html

Brian2887
07-30-2005, 02:55 PM
Unfortnately, while he has some characteristics of the character,...he seems to be a little old for the role. I dont know, I have seen this picture thrown around in here for months but I would like to see a clearer color photograph of this guy

Ask, and you shall receive.

http://images.zap2it.com/20040712/johncmcginley_nbcpt04.jpg

http://www.alanjohns.fsnet.co.uk/carter2000/john-c-mcginley.jpg

and one more black and white, cuz it's a good one.

http://tahoecelebritygolf.com/Players/images/mcginley-john.jpg


I love him as an actor... I really do. He is so darn great on Scrubs... But Joker? He's got the smile, and he does have some crazy eyes. He's a very dedicated actor to boot... Ok, give him a screen test. I think I could see it.



Just a note.. Originally, I was rooting for him to be Gordon. That's quite some acting range for a guy to have.

Keyser Soze
07-30-2005, 03:02 PM
It's strange you should say that. Because at one point Gary Oldman was MY top choice to play The Joker. Then he got cast as Gordon.

dogsgotlipstick
07-30-2005, 03:03 PM
I don't know about Christopher Eccleston. On one hand, he's a phenomenal actor, plus he looks the part. But on the other hand, he left "Doctor Who" in the lurch after announcing he was quitting in the title role after only one episode. Could you depend on him to come back as The Joker in part 3?

As for John C. McGinley's age, he's 45 I believe.

If he was offered the joker gig he would be tied into it for the next two films, so that wouldn't be a problem... he's been my favourite from the get go; i also agree with pieeye, he would be the definitive joker if given the role... fingers crossed...

pieeye
07-30-2005, 03:18 PM
In all fairness, if it were up to me, I would give John C. a screen test. Now as for Eccleston, he is als a very dedicated actor, and I believe that he left Dr. Who becasue he knew what was right for him as an actor. The Joker would be a two-movie deal and he would be bound to it no matter what. Personally, I think that he may have quit because he knows there are better roles for him out there. I think he is smart for leaving when he did because he used it to further his clout with cult fans and non cult fans alike. Now he will be moving in for the Kill.
I also wanted to mention this...there is a reason why we have been steeped in all this rumor about Sean Penn, Steve Carell (new rumor) and the like. I think that the rumor mill has to begin at Warners or with someone associated with the next films becasue they want to throw us off. I have a hard time believeing that nolan would come back if he were made to cast a name actor only for The Joker. If Warners didnt learn their lesson to trust Nolan, then we are headed up ***** creek without a paddle (pardon my language). On the Other Hand , I think they do trust him. They understand that taking risks is part of the business and a risk they will take if Nolan can bring them the acclaim and the big bucks with his next installment. I really think that Eccleston is more in the running than any of you might think. Nolan is an out side the box kind of guy. We should be an out side the box kind of audience.

pieeye
07-30-2005, 03:22 PM
ecclesgirl,

That is a great pic of Chris, I will have to use that one for another project...awesome

antmanx68
07-30-2005, 05:35 PM
McGinley was one of my choices for Flass. I think he's all wrong for Joker, he's very built, very manly... love his work though.

DrVenkman90
07-30-2005, 05:37 PM
Mark Hamill should do it.

dogsgotlipstick
07-30-2005, 05:52 PM
ecclesgirl,

That is a great pic of Chris, I will have to use that one for another project...awesome please be quick with your next piece. that first one was brilliant... I could picture jonathan Ross sitting opposite him having just inhaled vast amounts of joker gas... brilliant!!!

pieeye
07-30-2005, 05:53 PM
Hamill's voice is excellent, he is too old for the role, and physically he does not fit the character. I also think that Nolan is trying to start something new and fresh here meaning, he will cut out references to any remnant of the old franchise including, dare I say it, the animated series (which was directly inspired by the first films).

pieeye
07-30-2005, 05:56 PM
patience, patience, my freind. These things take time. Right now I am drawing out my two face rendition based on Liev Schreiber while at the same time working on another Joker. I have some sketches I will be posting up soon as well.

antmanx68
07-30-2005, 07:02 PM
I really like Eccleston's look for Joker. He could have made a fine Scarecrow as well.
Here's a manip i made of Eccleston as Joker.

http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/2007/eccleston4il.jpg

Sarge
07-30-2005, 07:19 PM
Im retracting my vote for Jude Law after introspection...no big names. Now I really truly hope Paul Bettany gets the part.

comicgirl
07-30-2005, 07:31 PM
Im retracting my vote for Jude Law after introspection...no big names. Now I really truly hope Paul Bettany gets the part.Jude Law is way too much of a pretty boy for the part...Gary Oldman could've done The Joker with one arm tie behind his back...about 10 years ago

antmanx68
07-30-2005, 07:33 PM
Gary Oldman is wild enough to still do it now i think... he's just got such a crazed demeanor when he wants to turn it on.

DrVenkman90
07-30-2005, 07:48 PM
Thats good that he can do that

NOFX
07-30-2005, 07:49 PM
Jude Law is way too much of a pretty boy for the part...
He sure didnt look like a pretty boy in Road To Perdition.

DrVenkman90
07-30-2005, 07:50 PM
Yeah actually he did

antmanx68
07-30-2005, 11:48 PM
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3292/rushmanip0db.jpg

Geoffrey Rush

darknight7
07-31-2005, 12:20 AM
Christopher Eccleston would be brilliant in the Joker role. Check out this screen cap of him in 'Death and the Compass'. he's a fine actor and did a brave gutsy rendition of Dr Who. He deserves a shot at the role. You should try posting that wonderful drawing of Chris on http://s7.invisionfree.com/christophereccleston/index.php

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/28345630-M.jpg


Im all for Eccleston as the Joker. I think this picture just screams Joker in Arkham. someone should manip this, i would do it if i was on my iMac...but im not:(

lol

--dk7

antmanx68
07-31-2005, 12:35 AM
I was just thinking that about the pic... i dont even think it needs to be manipped really. If someone told me it was a leaked shot from Eccleston's Joker screentest i would have beleived it, its a very cool picture.

Brian2887
07-31-2005, 12:39 AM
OK! I've got one I don't think anyone has suggested. Honestly, that shocks me because it seems like everyone's name has been thrown around.

His name is Alan Tudyk and he was one of Bettany's co-stars in A Knight's Tale, he played Steve the Pirate in Dodgeball, and was Sonny the robot in I, Robot. Most people seem to know him from Joss Whedon's Firefly, though.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/a_knight_s_tale/alan_tudyk/knightpre.jpg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/legally_blonde/alan_tudyk/blondpre.jpg

http://www.afan.dk/firefly/ffpic/at_28_300.jpg

http://www.afan.dk/firefly/ffpic/at_knights_121.jpg

Alan Tudyk is 6'0 and lanky with pale skin and a freakish smile. He hasn't played a psycho killer yet, but I believe him to be capable of it. He went to Juliard, for Pete's sake. They don't let just anybody in up there.

antmanx68
07-31-2005, 12:41 AM
he might be ok as Joker, doesnt jump out at me as a prime candidate though (although I am a big fan of his.)

Timstuff
07-31-2005, 12:44 AM
http://www.afan.dk/firefly/ffpic/at_knights_121.jpg

Conan, what did they do to you? :eek:

BK
07-31-2005, 12:49 AM
Christopher Eccleston would be brilliant in the Joker role. Check out this screen cap of him in 'Death and the Compass'. he's a fine actor and did a brave gutsy rendition of Dr Who. He deserves a shot at the role. You should try posting that wonderful drawing of Chris on http://s7.invisionfree.com/christophereccleston/index.php

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/28345630-M.jpg

I really like Eccleston's look for Joker. He could have made a fine Scarecrow as well.
Here's a manip i made of Eccleston as Joker.

http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/2007/eccleston4il.jpg
GAME. SET. MATCH.

Close thread, there's no more need for further discussion. :) :up:

Spidey-Bat
07-31-2005, 01:08 AM
OK! I've got one I don't think anyone has suggested. Honestly, that shocks me because it seems like everyone's name has been thrown around.

His name is Alan Tudyk and he was one of Bettany's co-stars in A Knight's Tale, he played Steve the Pirate in Dodgeball, and was Sonny the robot in I, Robot. Most people seem to know him from Joss Whedon's Firefly, though.

Alan Tudyk is 6'0 and lanky with pale skin and a freakish smile. He hasn't played a psycho killer yet, but I believe him to be capable of it. He went to Juliard, for Pete's sake. They don't let just anybody in up there.

He's playing Lancelot in Spamalot now until Azaria comes back

Brian2887
07-31-2005, 02:09 AM
Ok, one more oddball choice. This dude is tall and lanky, he's got a creepy, crazy voice and a freakish smile, and he is hilarious in the sitcom, Arrested Development. Of course, I am talking about - Will Arnett.

http://www.forever-veiled.net/scanned/images/Actors/WillArnett1.jpg

http://the-op.com/images/publicity/gob-pu-tn.jpg

http://the-op.com/images/prof/gob.jpg

http://web.starmagazine.com/images/star/208333/48507.jpg


He's not the best that's been mentioned, but I think he'd bring something really interesting to the role. Plus, I'm getting kinda tired of the same names over and over again. Thought I'd toss in some new blood.

pieeye
07-31-2005, 03:38 AM
At the moment I am working on a drawing and a manipulation of the picture in question. I do agree that it is pretty much dead on as far as the face, but I am going to add shorter hair, and a new wardrobe to my final product. I am thinking this picture more of out of arkham sort of deal. I am using The killing Joke as my reference. Oh and yes I do have a life, but this is also along the lines of what I am training for (movie concepts, special effects) so this is all good for my portfolio. Harvey Dent/ Two-Face should be on the way soon.

-Pieeye

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/28345630-M.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/christopherecclestnrealjoke.jpg

BK
07-31-2005, 03:52 AM
At the moment I am working on a drawing and a manipulation of the picture in question. I do agree that it is pretty much dead on as far as the face, but I am going to add shorter hair, and a new wardrobe to my final product. I am thinking this picture more of out of arkham sort of deal. I am using The killing Joke as my reference. Oh and yes I do have a life, but this is also along the lines of what I am training for (movie concepts, special effects) so this is all good for my portfolio. Harvey Dent/ Two-Face should be on the way soon.

-Pieeye

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/28345630-M.jpg


You're drawing that picture?

If so, awesome. The only thing you could change on the face is redder lips, and maybe a slightly bigger grin. Otherwise, it's perfect. :up:

Matis17
07-31-2005, 04:04 AM
Alan Tudyk and Will Arnett are both very interesting and welcome additions to the Joker casting IMO. I'm seeing Eccleston in a different light as well. Dammit Nolan, cast the role already. This speculation is murder.

pieeye
07-31-2005, 05:07 AM
Unfortunately, I am leaving the grin as is. I want it to look as real as possible so I dont want to modify too much of the existing picture (as far as the face). If i could find a picture where Eccleston is grinning widely, I would be very happy. I will be extending the chin just slightly, and I will try to make the teeth more visible. Of course the lips will be red.

Im about 60% done with the drawing and then I will be scanning it in to match it up with the picture. Oh and Two face is looking good so far.


-pieeye

Brian2887
07-31-2005, 01:41 PM
I'm really digging throwing new names into this. I added Arnett and Tudyk, and there's at least one more who's name I must enter.

This new candidate is a stand-up comedian who wrote for and starred in a sitcom based around his life. He is very funny with a sharp wit, and he seems to have a pretty good look, and the chops to act it. Christopher Titus.

http://www.kfcplainfield.com/tv/titus2.jpg

http://www.omnipop.com/images/photos/titusmz.jpg

http://us.tv1.yimg.com/tv.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/tv_pix/showtime/christopher_titus__norman_rockwell_is_bleeding_pho tos/christopher_titus/rockwell5.jpg



Ok, I think that's all I got in the way of new names. If I think of anymore, I'll throw them in too.

BatmanRules33
07-31-2005, 01:54 PM
My top 6, as they stand now. This list has a tendency to change...

6. Giovanni Ribisi (Basic, The Gift)
http://www.moviemaze.de/celebs/0073/main.jpg

5. Robin Williams (One Hour Photo, Death to Smoochy)
http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/features/studiola/robin_williams_death_to_smoochy.jpg

4. Matthew Lillard (SLC Punk!, Scream)
http://www.geocities.com/chao_xing/mlil/mlil56.jpg

3. Christopher Eccleston (28 Days Later, The Others)
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1285717.jpg

2. Tim Roth (Planet of the Apes, Rob Roy)
http://www.henshinonline.com/images/ef_darkwater_roth.jpg

1. Jason Lee (Dogma, The Incredibles)
http://www.dogma-movie.com/pics/bar/images/gunhappy.jpg

omg......so many bad choices......brain overload of stupididy!!!

Brian2887
07-31-2005, 01:59 PM
omg......so many bad choices......brain overload of stupididy!!!


Thanks.... that's... that's sweet.

BatmanRules33
07-31-2005, 02:20 PM
Thanks.... that's... that's sweet.

u know what, that was stupid of me, i apologize, but damn, i really dont see a joker actor in ANY of those actors, there just too.......not joker!! like i said with geoffry rush, WTF are these ppl thinking?

im holding my joker comment until word is official.

pieeye
07-31-2005, 02:47 PM
Well, to each his own,

I personally dont see who would make the "perfect" Joker. The character is simply too complex to pin down. Nonetheless, I think that Eccleston would get pretty close. So if these are BAD choices for the character please let us know what GOOD choices look like. Please dont put Nicholson in there, he is not coming back! If you ask me its is all a matter of opinion. So you are Republican, I am Democrat, you like cheddar, I like swiss cheeze. Its just the way of the world.

mopho
07-31-2005, 07:58 PM
would u like with or without lipstick?

BatmanRules33
07-31-2005, 08:47 PM
omg, i have found the perfect person for joker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9994/freeze3sh0lw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

omg he just SCREAMS joker!!

SolidRoar
07-31-2005, 09:02 PM
I beginning to like Christopher Eccleston. I need to see his acting, though. For now, I'll stick with Paul Bettany.

Mr. Socko
07-31-2005, 09:04 PM
I saw Oceans 12 with Vince Cassel. Ane he looked really skinny in that movie.

The Question
07-31-2005, 10:45 PM
Your right Jesus!:up:

DrVenkman90
08-01-2005, 01:59 AM
YAY for jesus

Keyser Soze
08-01-2005, 03:38 PM
I have to say, personally speaking, that I find someone coming onto the Hype and calling themselves "Jesus H Christ" ridiculously offensive. That is in really poor taste.

I don't want to get in a fight over it, but the fact that this person hasn't been banned already astounds me.

The Question
08-01-2005, 03:44 PM
That's not ridiculously offensive. It's only mildly offensive. If his name had been "kill all the black people" or "I love Hitler", then that would have been ridiculously ofensive. Just putting things in perspective.

Keyser Soze
08-01-2005, 04:01 PM
I think it's on the same level. That is insulting to my beliefs. If he had came on here and made racist or homophobic comments, he would have been out of here within minutes. Sorry to rant, it's just that crap like this really pisses me off. Hence me usually trying to stay away from Community...

The Question
08-01-2005, 04:37 PM
Well, I don't think it's as offensive as if his screen name had been "God's ******" or something like that. Again, just trying to put things into perspective. Personally, I really don't see the big deal with religions. At their core they're all the same, so why all the fighting?

antmanx68
08-01-2005, 04:48 PM
I have to say, personally speaking, that I find someone coming onto the Hype and calling themselves "Jesus H Christ" ridiculously offensive. That is in really poor taste.

I don't want to get in a fight over it, but the fact that this person hasn't been banned already astounds me.

yea, i agree... but thats the internet for ya.

dogsgotlipstick
08-01-2005, 05:15 PM
I beginning to like Christopher Eccleston. I need to see his acting, though. For now, I'll stick with Paul Bettany.

suggest you watch shallow grave, cracker, hillsborough, second coming and dr who...

Eccleston would be fantastic as the joker imo...

nogster
08-01-2005, 05:40 PM
Well, I don't think it's as offensive as if his screen name had been "God's ******" or something like that. Again, just trying to put things into perspective. Personally, I really don't see the big deal with religions. At their core they're all the same, so why all the fighting?

well said. its just a name. its not offensive.
religion.. the reason the world will never be at peace. ironic really.

Timstuff
08-01-2005, 05:57 PM
I think Adrian Brody could be a very good Joker, it's a shame people don't give him more attention. If you've seen The Village you know how creepy he's capable of being.

And I think Johnny Depp is definately a very strong canidate for the role.

DrVenkman90
08-01-2005, 07:03 PM
I am going for Marky boy.

RedFive
08-02-2005, 01:48 AM
I am going for Marky boy.

Good man! He's my pick as well.

DrVenkman90
08-02-2005, 01:50 AM
I love me some Hamill

alison
08-02-2005, 03:00 AM
I'm in the Eccleston camp. He's a very charismatic brilliant actor, imposing on screen and very sexy. He did a brillaint job with Dr Who and it was a brave career move so I think he deserves payback for it.

drknight
08-02-2005, 03:35 AM
Voted Law.

http://host.zcultfm.com/user_uploads/joker2.gif

Brian2887
08-02-2005, 03:49 AM
http://www.dogma-movie.com/pics/bar/images/gunhappy1.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/magic/badfic/Candy/lee.jpg

And, man, I was just watching Dogma, and there's a shot of Jason while he's unloading his clip on the bartender, where he delivers a sick smile and a creepy laugh. I can't do screen captures, but if someone wants to look, it's further testament he'd be a kickass Joker.

pieeye
08-02-2005, 04:40 AM
Well, I have been working on my second eccleston drawing slash manipulation. I am posting a little teaser for you to enjoy (or not). It s been really fun working on this. I have been getting down to all of the details so much so that at 300% magnification, I can still see the finest of lines on the face. I hope to get it up here soon in the next wee.

here you go:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/teaser.jpg

based on this photo

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/28345630-M.jpg

oh, he will have eyebrows dont worry.

-pieeye

darknight7
08-02-2005, 10:38 AM
i cant wait to see the finished product

--dk7

dogsgotlipstick
08-02-2005, 12:59 PM
Well, I have been working on my second eccleston drawing slash manipulation. I am posting a little teaser for you to enjoy (or not). It s been really fun working on this. I have been getting down to all of the details so much so that at 300% magnification, I can still see the finest of lines on the face. I hope to get it up here soon in the next wee.

here you go:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/teaser.jpg

based on this photo

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/28345630-M.jpg

oh, he will have eyebrows dont worry.

-pieeye

you tease..(!)

mate, firstly, hurry up and get this on here asap!
secondly, can you show two manips; one with no eyebrows and the other with.
thirdly, if eccleston gets the gig he should pay you a percentage of any fee he recieves!:)
fourthly, get this onto batman on film forum as soon as its finished.
fifthly, give us a date of when it will be finished.

antmanx68
08-02-2005, 01:03 PM
wow pieeye, thats lookin really really good so far.

pieeye
08-02-2005, 02:00 PM
Well,

Lets see, if I work really hard day in and day out until saturday, I should be able to get it up by... Sunday night at the latest. I will have to register with batman on film, I think I tried but something happended where it all went awry. If you could do it for me, that would be awesome dogsgotlipstick. I did send my last one to BOF. Jett said he would get it posted by the end of the weekend but you know how webmasters are... I have learned not to hang on their every word. Many of you may wonder why I am doing this, and all I can tell you is film, especially concept designs, special effects and the like will be my livelyhood. This is good practice more than anything. I would also like to see Eccleston get the role. I think he deserves a shot at it and anything I can do to help, im there. It would be cool if my images somehow influence the decision, but that is all wishful thinking. Fot the moment, I am content to have you all look at them and appreciate them or critique them. Basically I am putting my self out there letting you know that I am here doing work to the best of my ability. Hey that would be pretty sweet if I made a share, but again, wishful thinking. Seeing him in the role would be payment enough!

dogsgotlipstick
08-02-2005, 02:18 PM
Well,

Lets see, if I work really hard day in and day out until saturday, I should be able to get it up by... Sunday night at the latest. I will have to register with batman on film, I think I tried but something happended where it all went awry. If you could do it for me, that would be awesome dogsgotlipstick. I did send my last one to BOF. Jett said he would get it posted by the end of the weekend but you know how webmasters are... I have learned not to hang on their every word. Many of you may wonder why I am doing this, and all I can tell you is film, especially concept designs, special effects and the like will be my livelyhood. This is good practice more than anything. I would also like to see Eccleston get the role. I think he deserves a shot at it and anything I can do to help, im there. It would be cool if my images somehow influence the decision, but that is all wishful thinking. Fot the moment, I am content to have you all look at them and appreciate them or critique them. Basically I am putting my self out there letting you know that I am here doing work to the best of my ability. Hey that would be pretty sweet if I made a share, but again, wishful thinking. Seeing him in the role would be payment enough!

don't think jett posted your last piece; devotedtochris did though! It seems to be changing a quite a few opinions. I posted a thread on chrisophereccleston.info. and would be more than happy to post it on BOF for you...

pieeye
08-02-2005, 02:26 PM
devoted to chris??? what is that??

pieeye
08-02-2005, 02:28 PM
is that a website??

dogsgotlipstick
08-02-2005, 02:28 PM
devoted to chris??? what is that??

somebody who posts on BOF... who's devoted to chris!?!

pieeye
08-02-2005, 02:32 PM
oh cool
I need to take a look

spanish39
08-02-2005, 03:30 PM
Here are some good Eccelstone pics. I could live with Chris I guess, but there are always plenty more actirs out there.

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=CHRISTOPHER+ECCLESTON+pics/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=12kjdft44/EXP=1123097094/*-http%3A//www.simpson-bruckheimer.com/gonein60seconds/gonechris.jpg

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=CHRISTOPHER+ECCLESTON/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=12ncb2ojr/EXP=1123096631/*-http%3A//www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/othello/whoswho/images/jago.jpg

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=CHRISTOPHER+ECCLESTON/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=1267b6aud/EXP=1123096825/*-http%3A//www.drwho-online.co.uk/newseries/doctor.jpg

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=CHRISTOPHER+ECCLESTON+pics/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=1386bindr/EXP=1123097043/*-http%3A//newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39949000/jpg/_39949965_eccleston_clock_203.jpg

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=CHRISTOPHER+ECCLESTON+pics/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=130fcmvf7/EXP=1123097050/*-http%3A//www.tribute.ca/tribute_objects/images/stars/christopher_eccleston.jpg

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=CHRISTOPHER+ECCLESTON+pics/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=12ftvl0in/EXP=1123097068/*-http%3A//www.doctorwhoaustralia.org/newseries/christopher.jpg

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=CHRISTOPHER+ECCLESTON+pics/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=121vjj3o7/EXP=1123097571/*-http%3A//www.sundayfilm.net/images/chris_sm.jpg

acer
08-02-2005, 03:46 PM
I think they mean


when people mention "devoted to Chris".

The gallery on there is brilliant but you do need to be a forum member to see the images.

Eccleston looks equally scary in the Revengers Tragedy as he does in Death of a Compass

http://walford.smugmug.com/photos/26734141-M.jpg

Check out his interviews on their forum.

pieeye
08-02-2005, 03:59 PM
Hey thanks alot,

I just registered on that forum and posted my stuff.

dogsgotlipstick
08-02-2005, 04:01 PM
I think they mean


when people mention "devoted to Chris".

The gallery on there is brilliant but you do need to be a forum member to see the images.

Eccleston looks equally scary in the Revengers Tragedy as he does in Death of a Compass

http://walford.smugmug.com/photos/26734141-M.jpg

Check out his interviews on their forum.

devotedtochris is a member of the BOF forum, devotedtochris is his/her handle.

pieeye
08-02-2005, 04:09 PM
I sent him/her a thank you note for posting it on BOF. Thanks for informing me on that.

If you would like to post the manips on other boards please do so, just let me know where you are sending them via my mail box. At the moment, I cannot post anything on BOF (they say my app is being reviewed) so doghaslipstick, when I get my new piece out and I still cant post on there, can I have you post it?

dogsgotlipstick
08-02-2005, 04:14 PM
I sent him/her a thank you note for posting it on BOF. Thanks for informing me on that.

If you would like to post the manips on other boards please do so, just let me know where you are sending them via my mail box. At the moment, I cannot post anything on BOF (they say my app is being reviewed) so doghaslipstick, when I get my new piece out and I still cant post on there, can I have you post it?

Absolutely,i'd be honoured!!:) in the mean time, try to re register on bof using the password,email address and handle that you already have; when i was struggling to log on, i did this and it let me in almost straight away. give it a go..

pieeye
08-02-2005, 04:22 PM
well, right now I can see all of the posts but I cannot respond so that is my problem at the moment. I already registered its just that when I try to respond to a post it wont let me.

dogsgotlipstick
08-02-2005, 04:24 PM
well, right now I can see all of the posts but I cannot respond so that is my problem at the moment. I already registered its just that when I try to respond to a post it wont let me.

I'm going to send you a private message..

dogsgotlipstick
08-02-2005, 04:31 PM
one last thing, i'm sure that your a very busy guy/gal (and i'm already on your back!!!:) ) on BOF i started a thread about who should be a joker in any future batman film, well the long and short of it is most people who replied on the thread favoured a BRITISH penguin... my personal favourite would be for a classic british cockney gangster type penguin; you know hard as nails etc i.e. ray winstone. any chance of pic. please?

American_Idiot
08-02-2005, 04:41 PM
http://www.dogma-movie.com/pics/bar/images/gunhappy1.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/magic/badfic/Candy/lee.jpg

And, man, I was just watching Dogma, and there's a shot of Jason while he's unloading his clip on the bartender, where he delivers a sick smile and a creepy laugh. I can't do screen captures, but if someone wants to look, it's further testament he'd be a kickass Joker.

The Perfect Joker...

Someone needs to manip this picture!

pieeye
08-02-2005, 04:57 PM
well are you thinking of Eccleston or who?? what actor??

I am always trying out new ideas, at the moment the Batman Universe is where I am spending most of my time so a Penguin is in the works. First thing is first, and then Two-face will be up next Lets just focus first on getting this latest Eccleston done. I agree that a british penguin would be good. I always thought of david suchet in the role you know that guy who played poirot for BBC. He is an awesome actor.

oh, I did not receive your PM I would say just send it to me via my mail box.

-pieeye

pieeye
08-02-2005, 04:59 PM
oh, my bad,

I did get your pm thank you...

pieeye
08-02-2005, 05:06 PM
The Perfect Joker...

Someone needs to manip this picture!

I also thought he would be good, but unfortunately he is tied up for a good amount of time. he woudnt be able to film due to schedule conflicts.

DACrowe
08-02-2005, 05:11 PM
Y'know Jason Lee would be a GREAT JOKER. I never thought of that now did I?

I really like that idea...

1. Mark Hamill (I know it won't happen, but still my top choice)
2. Johnny Depp
3. Jason Lee
4. Paul Bettany
5. Jude Law

I think Depp may not do it, but Lee, Bettany, or Law would. Those would all be good choices. Indeed.

Brian2887
08-02-2005, 05:30 PM
I also thought he would be good, but unfortunately he is tied up for a good amount of time. he woudnt be able to film due to schedule conflicts.

According to IMDB, all he's filming is My Name is Earl. He could film Batman between seasons or something... They'd just have to write in the show that he shaved his mustache... or give Joker a mustache.

Dark Knight
08-02-2005, 10:46 PM
word is from BOF today....that one of the big name actors that were in the mix.....is NOT in the mix. Has to be Penn....so some of you bozos will be happy with that. I guess Jetts source says "that the role will probably not go to a big time star." So we should rule out Penn and Depp. Oh well.....now we will have to be stuck with a ho-hum bland actor like Paul Bettany, or Lachey Hulme. Ugh....oh well....i'll still watch the movie and dream of what could have been..... :o

Brian2887
08-02-2005, 11:00 PM
Ho-hum? Bettany is terrific. He was the best part of A Knight's Tale, Master and Commander, and A Beautiful mind. He'd be a great Joker. And, if Nolan likes Hulme, I certainly can't speak against him. I trust Nolan, although I've never seen much of his acting. Oh, and if it is Penn that's out, I'm not surprised. The whole rumor was started in a British tabloid when a "drunk Bale" blabbed it at a party. I never bought that.

But, still, come on Jason Lee!

super-t
08-02-2005, 11:34 PM
now i dont know if this has been said or not, but i was watchin the texas chainsaw massacre and the guy who played kemper Eric Balfour lookk pretty damn good for the role of joker.


heres some pics

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/kill_bill__volume_1/eric_balfour/billpre2.jpghttp://entimg.msn.com/i/150/ce/oct/ebalfour_150x207.jpghttp://www.vampy.tv/media/sfu101jesse.jpghttp://celebrityjustice.warnerbros.com/images/02/09/25balfour_200.jpg

pieeye
08-02-2005, 11:45 PM
Hey dark knight,

That also leaves Eccleston. He is not a big name actor by anymeans and I think he is a strong candidate.

darknight7
08-03-2005, 12:31 AM
wow that dude from texas chainsaw masacre DOES look like a pretty good candidate...

the one thing i can say i like about him that is better than eccleston is the fact that he is younger than eccleston is...

--dk7

antmanx68
08-03-2005, 01:14 AM
I know we're all getting kind of tired of seeing the same names tossed around... and thinking outside the box is good.... but c'mon, some of these choices are just god awful. Lets try to think of people who have a little more going for them than "younger than nicholson, tall and skinny, and have laughed and or smiled in a movie before."

The Nose Goblin
08-03-2005, 01:16 AM
http://www.addreviews.com/images/albums/2002-10-22-22-17-04.jpg
If only the man could act.

pencilcase
08-03-2005, 05:20 AM
Bettany will be closely identified with the da vinci code mad monk role so I'd rather someone else get the role Eccleston or Glover

curbishly
08-03-2005, 05:49 AM
I'm a Dr Who fan so for me Chris Eccleston would be perfect. Its a role he was born to play.

C. Lee
08-03-2005, 05:53 AM
Talking to yourself isn't nice....I wouldn't recommend continuing to do so.

pieeye
08-03-2005, 06:17 AM
I do believe Chris was born to play the role. He shoul at least get a screen test!

mongo44
08-03-2005, 08:08 AM
I’m burnt out now on the idea of “good candidates” for Joker. I think we have hashed and rehashed different actors and mentioned everyone short of Simon Cowell of American Idol. I knew I would feel this way. The character of the Joker is an icon not only in comics, but TV and movies. His look, his character, what he wears, and how he should be is ingrained in our brains. No matter who is picked at this point some will love or hate. We’re lucky to have such a huge list of actors who could pull it off in different ways.



Honestly last night at one point I just thought, “No more guessing and speculation, I’m ready to find out now who it is”. I’m sitting on pins and needles waiting for an announcement. I think I’m over the speculation and guessing. But it’s good to get it out of the system. And some of the suggestions were fun.



So with that said here is my final, “found this random picture on the net of this person smiling broadly and wouldn’t he make a good candidate for Joker”.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40095000/jpg/_40095163_cowell203.jpg :joker:

C. Lee
08-03-2005, 08:27 AM
I'm in the Eccleston camp. He's a very charismatic brilliant actor, imposing on screen and very sexy. He did a brillaint job with Dr Who and it was a brave career move so I think he deserves payback for it.
Yes....I would say that you are in his camp....seeing as how since yesterday you have registered with over 5 different names and made only one or two posts per name (and I know of several others that you haven't posted under yet)to sing his praise. Since this spamming....all but one name will be banned (and we will see how long that one lasts with the way you are going).

bbb
08-03-2005, 10:13 AM
Christopher Eccleston can't even do a good american accent , anyone see him in existenZ, his accent was terrible, so do you really want a Manc accent for the joker?

darknight7
08-03-2005, 10:50 AM
http://www.addreviews.com/images/albums/2002-10-22-22-17-04.jpg
If only the man could act.


I work at a record store, and everytime i walk by that cd cover i always think


JOKER..lol:joker:

--dk7

darknight7
08-03-2005, 11:00 AM
Christopher Eccleston can't even do a good american accent , anyone see him in existenZ, his accent was terrible, so do you really want a Manc accent for the joker?

Ive never heard his American accent first person...

but im sure if he can already do an American accent, that all he will have to do is work on making it better for the role if he got it

--dk7

bbb
08-03-2005, 11:09 AM
Ive never heard his American accent first person...

but im sure if he can already do an American accent, that all he will have to do is work on making it better for the role if he got it

--dk7

doubtful , i think he realised his american accent was crap and that's why he's stuck with british roles since

Wolverine_05
08-03-2005, 12:38 PM
now i dont know if this has been said or not, but i was watchin the texas chainsaw massacre and the guy who played kemper Eric Balfour lookk pretty damn good for the role of joker.


heres some pics

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/kill_bill__volume_1/eric_balfour/billpre2.jpg

Now way man, one of my complaints about Hulme is that he looks like the bastard child of Balfour and Vincent Gallo.

antmanx68
08-03-2005, 01:34 PM
doubtful , i think he realised his american accent was crap and that's why he's stuck with british roles since

Thats kind of unlikely. I doubt he was like "Oh darn, what a failure I am at American accents... I am beyond help, or practice.... I will never try again."

TimDrake64x
08-03-2005, 02:30 PM
everyone take ben foster off your lists, hes playing angel in x3

DrVenkman90
08-03-2005, 02:36 PM
i want Mark Hamill

NOFX
08-03-2005, 05:19 PM
everyone take ben foster off your lists, hes playing angel in x3
He was never on my list to begin with:)

Keyser Soze
08-03-2005, 06:22 PM
All this speculation is killing me! When do you think we're going to find out who is playing The Joker? A year from now? Two years? I can't bear it anymore!

There are so many potential candidates, it's hard to settle on just one. Here's my current top ten:

1. Tim Roth
2. Johnny Depp
3. Benicio Del Toro
4. Sean Penn
5. John Leguizamo
6. Ralph Fiennes
7. Christopher Eccleston
8. Paul Bettany
9. Crispin Glover
10. John C. McGinley

Other strong contenders - Willem Dafoe, Mark Hamill, Geoffrey Rush - were discounted because I feel they are too old. I'm sure there are other good choices out there, but those are my faves. If anyone on that list was cast, I wouldn't complain.

DrVenkman90
08-03-2005, 06:29 PM
Mark Hamill is not to old. He would look great as Joker and of course he can do the Joker voice. You're just in Joker Denial.

Keyser Soze
08-03-2005, 06:50 PM
Why am I "in denial" if my choice doesn't match yours? I loved Mark Hamilll's Joker, but the fact is that now, at 54, he's too old.

He is older than Jack Nicholson was when he played The Joker! And the main criticism I have of Jack's Joker was that he was too old for the part. I want a younger, fresher Joker in the role. He shouldn't be older htan his mid-forties.

Dark Knight
08-03-2005, 07:21 PM
Hey dark knight,

That also leaves Eccleston. He is not a big name actor by anymeans and I think he is a strong candidate.


actually after seeing some of the manips of Eccleston as Joker in here....I would rather see him play Joker than Bettany at this point. Bettany just doesn't do anything for me when i hear his name associated with Joker.

Detective Flass
08-03-2005, 07:58 PM
TIM ROTH

American_Idiot
08-03-2005, 09:42 PM
now i dont know if this has been said or not, but i was watchin the texas chainsaw massacre and the guy who played kemper Eric Balfour lookk pretty damn good for the role of joker.


heres some pics

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/kill_bill__volume_1/eric_balfour/billpre2.jpghttp://entimg.msn.com/i/150/ce/oct/ebalfour_150x207.jpghttp://www.vampy.tv/media/sfu101jesse.jpghttp://celebrityjustice.warnerbros.com/images/02/09/25balfour_200.jpg

Yeah, I can see it. But the only thing I've seen him in so far was Chainsaw Massacre, and that's not convincing enough for me to root for him as the Joker. Jason Lee, on the other hand, has me sold with his role as Azrael in Dogma and voicover as Syndrome in the Incredibles. Plus, he bares an uncanny resemblence to the Joker.

The Last Meatbag
08-03-2005, 09:49 PM
nope

drknight
08-04-2005, 01:09 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker3.jpg

antmanx68
08-04-2005, 01:12 AM
I love Jason Lee as much as the rest of us, but I think he would make a terribly annoying and boring Joker.

drknight
08-04-2005, 01:32 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker4.jpg

Brian2887
08-04-2005, 01:38 AM
I love Jason Lee as much as the rest of us, but I think he would make a terribly annoying and boring Joker.


I don't see that. At all. I think, under Nolan's direction, he could turn an Azrael-esque comedic / evil performance into something creepy and nightmarish. His performance in Dogma really shows Joker potential.

drknight
08-04-2005, 04:48 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker5.jpg

antmanx68
08-04-2005, 05:27 AM
Thats a cool Joker haircut. Has anyone ever heard Cassel without a French accent? I'm not terribly familiar with him. But I think a French accent would be kind of tough to drop for the entire part.

drknight
08-04-2005, 06:02 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker7.jpg

I think Cassel can do an American accent...

NOFX
08-04-2005, 01:04 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker4.jpg
Very nice :up:

Dark Knight
08-04-2005, 01:34 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker3.jpg


i think instead of putting lipstick on some of these manips....i think some of you need to put the clown smile extension from the lips to the cheeks.

dark_b
08-04-2005, 01:44 PM
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2145/wescravensnewnightmarecopy1hp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

GREEN =w= DAY
08-04-2005, 02:34 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker4.jpg
is that Jude Law? cuz if it is, i think he would make a great Joker. these last couple of days for some reason i was watching movies that had Jude Law in it (Alfie, Road To Perdition, and Closer) and this guy can act. he also has the looks and more importantly, the grin :up:

dark_b
08-04-2005, 02:35 PM
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6866/1autographrobertenglund2copy3c.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

mongo44
08-04-2005, 02:37 PM
http://www.geocities.com/dink_iii/Webdeppjoker.gif
Alright I know I said I was done. But I just tried my very first manip. This is Depp from Neverland maniped to be Joker. Sorry it looks rough, but...

I got another one I'm working on now "From Hell". To give a different Joker look.

dark_b
08-04-2005, 02:59 PM
http://img284.imageshack.us/img284/1790/englund1copy5fr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

mongo44
08-04-2005, 03:16 PM
http://www.geocities.com/dink_iii/depp3.gifHere's the other one of Depp.

FreeBeerForAll
08-04-2005, 06:36 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/considinejoker.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/JokerConsidine.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/JokerPaddy.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/in-america-premiere-2.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/deadsh4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/dead3.jpg

The Genius Paddy Considine.
He is a very good British actor that has mainly done indie films(very good ones at that) but has recently been doing bigger things such as In America and Cinderella Man. Many have called him the British DeNiro, and I think he would make the perfect Joker.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0175916/

Keyser Soze, what do you think of him?

The Nose Goblin
08-04-2005, 10:27 PM
http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/gangster/caps/058.jpg
http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/gangster/caps/084.jpg
http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/gangster/caps/117.jpg

Anybody post these pics of Bettany yet? Good stuff.

Brian2887
08-04-2005, 11:07 PM
Those are amazing pics. I knew he could play Joker, but those pics kinda confirm it.

My Top 5 As It Stands Now (subject to change)

1. Jason Lee (Dogma, Chasing Amy)
Lee was a healthy mix of evil and funny in Dogma, and really has the facial features of the Joker. His creepy little laugh, crazy smile, and knack for humor really make him a great Joker candidate. Under Nolan's direction, he can become the definitive Joker.
http://www.dogma-movie.com/pics/bar/images/gunhappy.jpg

2. Tim Roth (Planet of the Apes, Reservoir Dogs)
No one plays a villain like Roth. He's an amazing actor who really dives into his every role. He's a thespian who'd give us a Joker to remember.
http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/int/1999/12/10/roth/story.jpg

3. Paul Bettany (A Beautiful Mind, Master and Commander)
Bettany was the absolute best part of both Master and Commander and A Beautiful Mind, and really has the acting chops to pull off the role. He's naturally pale and creepy, which certainly don't hurt his candidacy.
http://www.chud.com/graphics4/bettany.jpg

4. Matthew Lillard (Scream, SLC Punk!)
Lillard is a very underrated young actor. He was the only watchable cast member of Wicker Park, he was fantastic in SLC Punk!, creepy and psychotic in Scream, and he inhabited the character of Shaggy, no matter how terrible the Scooby Doo films are. He's tall, lanky, off-the-wall, and he was a very menacing smile.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/without_a_paddle/matthew_lillard/paddleprec.jpg

5. Robin Williams (Death to Smoochy, Insomnia)
Robin is just a bit old for the role, but he'd be fantastic. Nolan directed him in a wonderfully creepy turn as a murderer in Insomnia, and he is certainly known for his antics. He could be both hilarious and menacing at the same time, which make me think he woulda ruled the role a couple years ago.. I mean, I'd still give it to him now, but maybe that's just me.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/death_to_smoochy/robin_williams/smoochy2.jpg

dark_b
08-05-2005, 07:04 AM
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/5407/nightmare7promo12copy1fa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dark_b
08-05-2005, 07:04 AM
robert englund

like freddy ...... sadistic,creppy,laughs like a maniac

DavidTyler
08-05-2005, 07:38 AM
I can't take the time right now to read through all of the responses to this so let me cut right to the chase.....

I have NEVER seen the Joker as funny or amusing. I have always felt that people have generally gotten the wrong impression. His name is The Joker but it never meant 'Jokes' to me. It ALWAYS meant 'Wildcard'. Meaning this guy is unpredictable. Unpredictable because of his killer instincts and his insanity. I want the Joker played as an unfathomable, dark, frightening psychopathic murderer.

Crispin Glover would be amazing playing this character.

dark_b
08-05-2005, 07:45 AM
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/5462/dbcopy9iz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ultimatefan
08-05-2005, 08:14 AM
If you check BOF, there´s a new story on the Joker casting... Looks like that Steve Carell rumor has some meat to it... Can anyone do a manip of him?

And it seems more and more settled they won´t go for a big name. I think that excludes Depp, Penn or even Del Toro.

spanish39
08-05-2005, 12:29 PM
Hulme
Eccelstone
Bettany
Cassell
all great choices so far......



Law
Depp
not to bad but come on......


Peter Sarsgard
Robert Carlyle
Steve Carrell
interesting to the least......


Ifan Rheys
Paddy Considine
that would be ok......

Shoemeister
08-05-2005, 02:30 PM
My Top 3:
- Vincent Cassel
- Tim Roth
- Crispin Glover

NOFX
08-05-2005, 02:33 PM
http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/gangster/caps/084.jpg
:eek: :joker:

TheJuice
08-05-2005, 02:47 PM
Gilbert Gottfried

http://www.gilbertgottfried.com/gallery/images/img18.jpg

Just kidding!!!

Milkman95
08-05-2005, 06:56 PM
Jack Black is the latest rumor according to BOF.......

http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html

MrMotto
08-05-2005, 07:12 PM
Out of all of the candidates mentioned, Paul Bettany is the one I'm pulling for the most. I can't put my finger upon it, but something about him just seems "right". I've stated my reasons before, but I'll state them again.



I can just "see" him up against Bale's Batman, more so than any other candidate mentioned.

He seems like he would fit in with the cast and world that Nolan established in the first movie.

He is a relative unknown, yet still prestige enough to not seem under-qualified for the role.

The guy is 6' 3" and naturally thin and gaunt.

Finally...

He just looks like the "calling-card" leaving, double-homicidal-maniac type.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/MrMotto/52.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/MrMotto/coringa.jpg

http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/gangster/caps/084.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/joker.jpg

Keyser Soze
08-05-2005, 07:14 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/considinejoker.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/JokerConsidine.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/JokerPaddy.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/in-america-premiere-2.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/deadsh4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/dead3.jpg

The Genius Paddy Considine.
He is a very good British actor that has mainly done indie films(very good ones at that) but has recently been doing bigger things such as In America and Cinderella Man. Many have called him the British DeNiro, and I think he would make the perfect Joker.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0175916/

Keyser Soze, what do you think of him?

Hey FreeBeerForAll! I think Paddy Considine is an interesting choice, one I actualy suggested myself a while back. He's a great actor, that's for sure. however, much like with Sean Penn, I'm not sure if his acting style is too intense to portray someone like The Joker. But having said that, I certainly wouldn't complain if Considine (or Penn, for that matter) was cast.

Here's another suggestion - what about Max Dillon? Because he's been in a lot of comedies in recent years, people have forgotten what a great actor he is. But recently, with the critical acclaim he received from "Crash", he has reminded us of how good an actor he really is. Plus, I think he has the look down quite well too.

Again, not necessarily my top choice. Just trying to keep a constant flow of fresh names.

The Nose Goblin
08-05-2005, 07:31 PM
http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/kisskiss/06.jpg

http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/candid/misc/12.jpg

http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/rain/98.jpg

Okay, I'm gonna do everyone a favor, along with saving you a lot of time.

I'm officially calling it. The contest is over.

Paul Bettany should be the Joker.

End of discussion. :)

Keyser Soze
08-05-2005, 07:36 PM
I can think of about eight people I'd prefer to see as The Jokre over Bettany. Tim Roth being at the top of that list...

The Nose Goblin
08-05-2005, 07:37 PM
I can think of about eight people I'd prefer to see as The Jokre over Bettany. Tim Roth being at the top of that list...
Eight people?! Really??

Now if you had said two or three, I could maybe see that, but EIGHT?!


I'm curious to see that list my friend. :o

Dark Donnie
08-05-2005, 07:52 PM
Peter Sarsgaard

antmanx68
08-05-2005, 08:19 PM
ew, no thanks.

TheJuice
08-06-2005, 04:36 AM
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/5407/nightmare7promo12copy1fa.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

I think Robert Englund would've made a helluva Scarecrow. Fear--Nightmares--Scarecrow--Freddy Kreuger

dark_b
08-06-2005, 07:08 AM
freddy....... burned skin
joker......... toxic+ skin..... white freddy

actualy this is a bad choice.
but i was thinking that freddy is laughing like a crazy man and is sadistic.
thats why i was thinking about robert englund.
but i think joker should be more younger

The Chairman
08-06-2005, 08:50 AM
I personally think The Joker should stay the same as he did in 1989 as far as costumes go. He's had that outfit since the comic books started, and I think that it's wrong to change that now. As for casting, I have mixed emotions. I think Crispin Glover is an excellent choice. However, I think that they should stick with the Burton formula of having someone mega-famous play The Joker. I personally think that if Jack Nicholson shaved and dropped a few pounds, he could pull it off again. I'm a massive Nicholson fan, and I really will not be able to buy anyone else. However, if Nicholson doesn't do it again, I think they should go with a pretty well established actor for the role. I know these choices seem out of left field, but I think that Al Paciono or Robert DeNiro could pull off the role. Or maybe Robin Williams. If Good Will Hunting proved anything, he can do more than comedy. Bill Murray I think would be good, too Or here's a suggestion: how about Michael Jackson? He sure has the skin for it.

The Chairman
08-06-2005, 08:59 AM
I think the next Batman movie's plot should go something like this: the film opens (the credits) with a raid on the Axis Chemical Plant, like in 1989. Jack Napier (if they decide to use that name again), rather than a high ranking henchman, is the ringleader of the operation. The cops get wind of it and arrive to stop it. A shootout erupts. All of a sudden, Batman comes crashing in. The other criminals run away, but Napier stays to fight him off. Napier breaks a gas pipe to fend Batman off. Napier runs across a blacony. Batman flies up there and stops Napier in his tracks. Napier and Batman duel. Batman hits Napier and he falls off a balcony. He tries to grab Napier's hand but he fails, and Napier falls into a vat of green acid.

Fast forward nine months later. Napier assumed dead. However, it turns out he is still alive. His skin is bleached white, his hair is green and severe damage to his nerves leaves him grinning ear to ear. He unleases a diabolical plan to wreak havoc on the city that left him for dead rather than attempt to look for him. With the help of his henchman (which may include Harley Quinn), he unleashes a crime wave on the city. Then he comes up with his devious plan. The Joker decides to open his own amusement park. He invites thousands to the grand opening. He then locks them in with no escape and announces that the whole carnival will explode by midnight. Can Batman save the day? I think this would turn out to be an awesome Batman movie.

dark_b
08-06-2005, 09:38 AM
I think the next Batman movie's plot should go something like this: the film opens (the credits) with a raid on the Axis Chemical Plant, like in 1989. Jack Napier (if they decide to use that name again), rather than a high ranking henchman, is the ringleader of the operation. The cops get wind of it and arrive to stop it. A shootout erupts. All of a sudden, Batman comes crashing in. The other criminals run away, but Napier stays to fight him off. Napier breaks a gas pipe to fend Batman off. Napier runs across a blacony. Batman flies up there and stops Napier in his tracks. Napier and Batman duel. Batman hits Napier and he falls off a balcony. He tries to grab Napier's hand but he fails, and Napier falls into a vat of green acid.

Fast forward nine months later. Napier assumed dead. However, it turns out he is still alive. His skin is bleached white, his hair is green and severe damage to his nerves leaves him grinning ear to ear. He unleases a diabolical plan to wreak havoc on the city that left him for dead rather than attempt to look for him. With the help of his henchman (which may include Harley Quinn), he unleashes a crime wave on the city. Then he comes up with his devious plan. The Joker decides to open his own amusement park. He invites thousands to the grand opening. He then locks them in with no escape and announces that the whole carnival will explode by midnight. Can Batman save the day? I think this would turn out to be an awesome Batman movie.
you are dreaming . come bact to reality

MUGSY
08-06-2005, 10:42 AM
http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/kisskiss/06.jpg

http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/candid/misc/12.jpg

http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/albums/rain/98.jpg

Okay, I'm gonna do everyone a favor, along with saving you a lot of time.

I'm officially calling it. The contest is over.

Paul Bettany should be the Joker.

End of discussion. :)

Been my choice for a long time. Glad people are starting to se it.

ultimatefan
08-06-2005, 10:56 AM
Jack Black is the latest rumor according to BOF.......

http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html
Sounds like a pile of BS. I think Black may want the role, but not only WB may be looking for someone more physically intimidating - the one problem Nicholson had -, but also they don´t want someone very well-known, and Jack Black is pretty well-known at this point.

MUGSY
08-06-2005, 11:09 AM
sorry but joker is american

So is Batman but, they got a brit for the role.

Detective Flass
08-06-2005, 01:47 PM
No they didn't.

They got a Welsh Actor.

Detective Flass
08-06-2005, 01:59 PM
MY TOP 5:

1. Tim Roth
2. Paul Bettany
3. Matthew Modine
4. Johnny Depp
5. Sean Penn

Mr Sensitive
08-06-2005, 02:08 PM
For Joker:

1. Vincent Cassel
2. Crispin Glover
3. Adrien Brody
4. Jude Law

pieeye
08-06-2005, 02:12 PM
The unfortunate thing about your top five with all due respect:

1. Big name, too short.
2. will have starred in DaVinci Code before Batman2 so...big name.
3. Big name, isnt even rumored to be in the running.
4. Big Name, is NOT in the running (he respects Tims Burtons work on the first film).
5. big Name and confirmed Not in the running.

Jett over at BOF has been infomed by a reliable source inside WB operations that Big name actors are at this point not being considered for the role of The Joker. That is not to say that a big name might not nab the role. Even so, the actors who are currently being screentested are not Big-names, and the informant suspects that it will remain so for the extent of the casting process.

here is what was reported by Jett:

I told you all the other day that one of the "big names" said to be in the mix to play The Joker, isn't. That is still the case. I'll now add that any other "star" actor mentioned in conjunction to this role is nothing more than fan speculation and wishing - at this point...

Now that's not to say an established actor or star will not ultimately nab the role, but BOF has been told that casting will not go that way. "Don't look for another 'Nicholson' situation this time," a sourced informed BOF...

The actor(s) that is/are getting a screentest - according more than one BOF source - would not be considered a "star" or a "big name" per se. I'm sure that cleared it all up for you all. Yeah right.

dogsgotlipstick
08-06-2005, 02:55 PM
No they didn't.

They got a Welsh Actor. wales IS part of britain. Bale is indeed a BRIT!!!

pieeye, are you almost done yet... sorry to hassle i'm just sooooooooooo excited about your CE manip.

FreeBeerForAll
08-06-2005, 03:13 PM
The unfortunate thing about your top five with all due respect:

1. Big name, too short.
2. will have starred in DaVinci Code before Batman2 so...big name.
3. Big name, isnt even rumored to be in the running.
4. Big Name, is NOT in the running (he respects Tims Burtons work on the first film).
5. big Name and confirmed Not in the running.



Da Vinci code will not make Paul Bettany a big name, he'll be remembered like he always seems to be. Something like "The Albino Guy in that Tom Hanks movie". And, Matthew Modine a big name? Come on, dude.

Dark Knight
08-06-2005, 03:14 PM
no big names...so here is my guess to the possible list of candidates that will be screentested.

Bettany
Eccleston
Cassell
Roth
Glover

pieeye
08-06-2005, 03:14 PM
Hey,
no hassle taken, I know I am keeping you in aticipation, sorry for that, but I have a few other things that I am working on also. Anyway, I think I may be able to get it done by Sunday night or Monday morning, we will see. It is really really involved. I just got done with the jacket portion of the piece which was all created from nothing basically. I had to ge a realistic feel for the fabric texture and the lighting. Anyway, I can offer another teaser to ease your anticipation if you would like, but other than that, I still have quite a bit of work to do.

pieeye
08-06-2005, 03:25 PM
Well Modine is relatively known, and he probably would be better known if he hadnt made that crappy pirate movie... I know he isnt A-list at the moment, but he has had his chance in the spotlight and he didnt put out any ultra-impressive performances so a second chance may come up for him, but The Joker should not be it. As For Bettany, he is already big in his own right. He may be at the cusp of being a big star, but he definitely is not unknown. I would say that out of all of the actors listed in the "Top Five" Bettany is more in the running than any of them. Eccleston and Bettany have competed for roles before, if anything, it would be great to see these two duke it out for the part (not literally of course). I feel that they are both great actors, and they both deserve a shot.

Keyser Soze
08-06-2005, 03:26 PM
I don't think Tim Roth is too big a name to play The Joker. He is more of an accomplished supporting/ensemble actor than a big-name star. The only films he has really headlined have been independent pictures.

As far as being too short, I tihnk people are placing far too much stock in height. Look at The Scarecrow. Being tall and lanky is far more important to his character than it is to the character of The Joker, since it is the reason he got the nickname of The Scarecrow. But in the film, Crane was played by the 5 foot 9 Cillian Murphy. And guess what? He was great ,even though he WASN'T the same physical build as his comic-book counterpart.

pieeye
08-06-2005, 03:26 PM
Dark Knight, you may want to add Hulme on to that list, he is not my favourite, but he has been rumored since before begins...

pieeye
08-06-2005, 03:34 PM
Roth is a great actor,

I loved his performance as Vincent Van Gogh in Vincent and Theo, He was perfectly cast in that role. The Joker?? not so much. While many things can be done to enhance the height of an actor, I think that Nolan and WB want an actor that will not need any enhancemnet. They need someone with an imposing presence. In all of the movies I have watched with Roth he has always seemed like a little guy, no matter what... I think it is his slouchy posture.

dogsgotlipstick
08-06-2005, 03:34 PM
Dark Knight, you may want to add Hulme on to that list, he is not my favourite, but he has been rumored since before begins...
please post another teaser... (salivating) will it be up british monday morning or american?

Keyser Soze
08-06-2005, 03:37 PM
Pieeye, you should watch Tim Roth's performance in "Rob Roy". He was Oscar-nominated for his role as Archibald Cunningham. He plays a truly excellent villain in this movie, one of the best ever in my opinion. Any when you see this I'm sure you'll be convinced he would make a great Joker.

pieeye
08-06-2005, 03:38 PM
American of course, Im based in the Bay Area, California.

pieeye
08-06-2005, 03:39 PM
now dont be sad, but the teasr I will offer will not show much, I want to keep it a surprize. I will show you a portion of what I worked on yesterday, namely the clothing. Some parts are unfinished so hold on to your judgement...

pieeye
08-06-2005, 03:47 PM
I have seen his performance in that movie, and I am not convinced. I agree, he was great...
He played a complete bastard in that film, so much so that you wanted him to be bi-sected like he is at the end of the movie. While the Joker is a character you love to hate, he is so charismatic in his own creepy way that you also love to love him.
Again, Roth is Oscar nomitaed, meaning, he has experienced some greatness in his time, I would love to see another actor get a chance to be nominated an maybe win for this role.

Pieeye, you should watch Tim Roth's performance in "Rob Roy". He was Oscar-nominated for his role as Archibald Cunningham. He plays a truly excellent villain in this movie, one of the best ever in my opinion. Any when you see this I'm sure you'll be convinced he would make a great Joker.

dogsgotlipstick
08-06-2005, 03:55 PM
I have seen his performance in that movie, and I am not convinced. I agree, he was great...
He played a complete bastard in that film, so much so that you wanted him to be bi-sected like he is at the end of the movie. While the Joker is a character you love to hate, he is so charismatic in his own creepy way that you also love to love him.
Again, Roth is Oscar nomitaed, meaning, he has experienced some greatness in his time, I would love to see another actor get a chance to be nominated an maybe win for this role.

where's the picture (still salivating, this time with a little drool...)

Super Ronnie
08-06-2005, 03:58 PM
i think the creepy thin guy from charlies angels would be a good joker, cant remember his real name

pieeye
08-06-2005, 04:04 PM
Here boy, here boy,... here you go:



http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/teaser2.jpg

again, the pic I am using is:

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/28345630-M.jpg

Keep in mind, the above teaser/ example shows unfinished parts on the face and clothes, but it is all I can offer at this moment, until I release the image in its entirety. It will be photorealistic, for the most part.

darknight7
08-06-2005, 04:12 PM
Here boy, here boy,... here you go:



http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/teaser2.jpg

again, the pic I am using is:

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/28345630-M.jpg

Keep in mind, the above teaser/ example shows unfinished parts on the face and clothes, but it is all I can offer at this moment, until I release the image in its entirety. It will be photorealistic, for the most part.


stop teaaasing :(







cant wait to see :)

--dk7

pieeye
08-06-2005, 04:15 PM
Super Ronnie,

you mean Crispin Glover,

I used to think so too and then I saw this...

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/746/

I mean its so ubsurd, that at times its funny...

Im all for method acting, but for the love of God, he needs to get some Meds.

pieeye
08-06-2005, 04:18 PM
dark knight and Dogs Got Lipstic,

feel free to spread this around... the more word the better.

-pieeye

dogsgotlipstick
08-06-2005, 05:46 PM
dark knight and Dogs Got Lipstic,

feel free to spread this around... the more word the better.

-pieeye

have just posted it on bof.

right i'm off to my pit now for some well earnt kip; (i'm completly knackered after watching england smashing australia at cricket today, but thats another story.)

pieeye
08-06-2005, 06:01 PM
Awesome, thank you

FreeBeerForAll
08-06-2005, 07:13 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/JokerPaddy.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/deadsh4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/dead3.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0175916/



Here is an IMDB review of his film Dead Man's Shoes:
In 'A Room for Romeo Brass' Considines character shifted from comical to threatening in a truly unsettling way, although in the end his promise 'to go dark on you' is easily thwarted by the decisive action and confidence of a father-figure. In this film, again, there is some uncertainty on the audience's part as to how far the character will go, as until the end, we are uncertain of exactly what he is revenging.

Rest-assured, Considine delivers an absolutely convincing depiction of a man struggling to balance his desire for revenge and redemption, he invokes sympathy and fear from the audience in a performance to rival DeNiro in 'Taxi Driver'.

I can't stress enough how perfect i think he would be as the Joker. But if not, Paul Bettany is definitely my 2nd choice.

Dark Knight
08-06-2005, 11:12 PM
Dark Knight, you may want to add Hulme on to that list, he is not my favourite, but he has been rumored since before begins...


oh yeah i forgot....

i just don't want him as Joker....i would rather have Bettany or Eccleston. Eccleston would look pretty creepy as the Joker and i'm sure Bettany would bring some unpredictable intensity and charisma

Dark Knight
08-06-2005, 11:16 PM
the teaser of Joker?

pieeye
08-07-2005, 12:08 AM
Yes,
I am doing a high definition Cocept Manipultion of Eccleston as The Joker so that little bit you saw was part of the unfinished piece...

dogsgotlipstick
08-07-2005, 10:12 AM
Yes,
I am doing a high definition Cocept Manipultion of Eccleston as The Joker so that little bit you saw was part of the unfinished piece...

I have left you a private message.

ROMAragorn
08-07-2005, 12:32 PM
Hmm how about Sam Rockwell for the Joker. :up: I remember him playing Wild Bill in 'The Green Mile' What do you think people?

I also think Gary Sinise or Jason Isaacs are great choices for the role.

However, my No1 vote goes to Mr Rockwell.

geordie_batfan
08-07-2005, 01:56 PM
I think Michael Massee could make a good Mr J. Possibly?

http://www.24zone.nl/Personages/gaines.jpg

He played a nutjob quite well in the otherwise crapfest that was Revelations.

pieeye
08-07-2005, 03:24 PM
http://www.smugmug.com/photos/31198640-M.jpg


even wothout make-up on, he looks like Mr. J...

Chris Eccleston as The Joker.

BK
08-07-2005, 03:28 PM
That 2nd pic on the last column is superb. :up:

Keyser Soze
08-07-2005, 07:11 PM
That's a nice collection of pics. I'm warmnig to the possibility of Christopher Eccleston as The Joker, though he's not at the top of my list.

Timstuff
08-07-2005, 07:31 PM
This scan seems to scream "Adrian Brody" to me.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/6.jpg

Depp is still my favorite choice, but if they can't get him I hope that they consider Brody.

pieeye
08-07-2005, 08:19 PM
Funny thing is when I see Brian Bollands interperetation of The Joker, I emmediately think Chris Eccleston. I am using Brian Bollands design for the basis of my manipulation (with more realistic facial proportions of course). I mean Chris Eccleston almost looks like he could have been the model for Bollands version.

The Kid
08-07-2005, 08:25 PM
http://www.talentbookingusa.com/look-a-likes/images/robin-williams.jpg HEY BATS! I'D GO A LITTLE CRAZY TOO IF I RAN AROUND EVERY NIGHT WEARING A BIG BLACK CONDOM FOR A SUIT! LET'S LAUGH ABOUT IT INSTEAD HA HA HA HA HA HA

antmanx68
08-07-2005, 09:01 PM
http://www.smugmug.com/photos/31198640-M.jpg


even wothout make-up on, he looks like Mr. J...

Chris Eccleston as The Joker.

Holy Shnikes.... every pic I see of Eccleston looks more and more like Joker.

sopdadope
08-07-2005, 10:26 PM
While Batman Begins was still shooting, I remember watching American Psycho - trying to visualize Christian Bale as Batman. The funny thing is, I remember seeing the Craig McDermott character and commenting on his smug, sinister laughing. At the time, I thought it seemed like a rather uncanny Joker impression. Anyhow, surprised he hasn't been mentioned yet, but what about Josh Lucas?


He's tall, lanky and with some prosthetic make-up, I think he'd make a convincing Joker (he's got the laughing part down).

http://www.celebrity-exchange.com/celebs/photos48/josh-lucas.jpg

pieeye
08-07-2005, 10:50 PM
he has been mentioned before, I am not sure what his standing is, but his physical characteristics fit somewhat...

antmanx68
08-07-2005, 10:58 PM
He's annoying to me, and I dont know what people see in him. Check him out in Hulk and Stealth, he's just kind of a boring unremarkable actor.... I would be pretty disappointed if I heard he was even being considered.

drknight
08-08-2005, 04:02 AM
This scan seems to scream "Adrian Brody" to me.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/rudeboy-/6.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker7.jpg Looks more like Cassel is that pic to me...

DrVenkman90
08-08-2005, 06:07 AM
Looks more like he enjoys a hefty delicious man-which

Sarge
08-08-2005, 12:30 PM
He's annoying to me, and I dont know what people see in him. Check him out in Hulk and Stealth, he's just kind of a boring unremarkable actor.... I would be pretty disappointed if I heard he was even being considered.
It's because he looks like Paul Newman. :o

BigBadBat87
08-08-2005, 12:34 PM
Anyone here knows David Thewlis?He's another name to be considerd.He appearead on Prisoner of Azkaban as Professor Lupin with Gary Oldman,recently you seen him in kingdom of heaven(with Neeson)and alongside Bale in the upcoming The New World.

Dark Knight
08-08-2005, 12:36 PM
He's annoying to me, and I dont know what people see in him. Check him out in Hulk and Stealth, he's just kind of a boring unremarkable actor.... I would be pretty disappointed if I heard he was even being considered.


yeah....i think Josh Lucas is a bland and boring actor.

Voyeur
08-08-2005, 12:44 PM
I like Lucas when he plays darker characters...like in Wonderland. I don't know, he might be ok as Joker.

Keyser Soze
08-08-2005, 04:26 PM
Here's another new suggestion - what about Michael Wincott?

http://hem.passagen.se/kattmor/wincott1.jpg

Famous for his trademark sinister voice, Wincott has played many screen villains, in films such as "Metro" and "Along Came A Spider". Perhaps his most famous role was as arch-villain Top Dollar in "The Crow".

Mr Sensitive
08-08-2005, 04:29 PM
For Joker:

1. Vincent Cassel
2. Crispin Glover
3. Adrien Brody
4. Jude Law

I would add Christopher Ecclestone to my list. It is really a good idea.

Duneboy
08-08-2005, 04:47 PM
what does anyone think of Ray Liota (from good fellas, etc.)?

Keyser Soze
08-08-2005, 04:57 PM
Great actor, but I think he's too old, and a bit too fat...

Dark Knight
08-08-2005, 05:03 PM
Great actor, but I think he's too old, and a bit too fat...

what happened to Keyser Sushii??

Dark Knight
08-08-2005, 06:09 PM
for the heck of it....why don't i throw in Vince Vaughn name as an actor who i think should get a screentest for Joker. My list....

1. Eccleston
2. Bettany
3. Roth
4. Vaughn
5. Cassell
6. Glover

big names
Penn
Depp

DarMar106
08-08-2005, 06:19 PM
Depp would be awesome, but im curiouse who is Christopher Eccleston. whoever does it I want to hear them pull off the Joker laugh

antmanx68
08-08-2005, 06:23 PM
what does anyone think of Ray Liota (from good fellas, etc.)?

there's nothing Jokerish about him.

DarMar106
08-08-2005, 06:28 PM
he's too fat too

pieeye
08-08-2005, 06:33 PM
This is Christopher Eccleston:

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/31198640-M.jpg


This is Christopher Eccelston on smilex...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/christopherecclestnrealjoke.jpg

Any Questions???

-pieeye

fceeviper
08-09-2005, 02:48 AM
This is Christopher Eccleston:

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/31198640-M.jpg


This is Christopher Eccelston on smilex...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/christopherecclestnrealjoke.jpg

Any Questions???

-pieeye
He might be able to pull it off.

The Kid
08-09-2005, 07:58 AM
meh, he looks a tad too much like bale. I never imagined Joker looking like bruce ever..

Oldman for joker.

ROBOCOP CPU001
08-09-2005, 08:00 AM
many actors might be able to look like the joker,its acting like like him thats the key :)

darknight7
08-09-2005, 10:39 AM
meh, he looks a tad too much like bale. I never imagined Joker looking like bruce ever..

Oldman for joker.

who looks like Bale?

--dk7

dogsgotlipstick
08-09-2005, 12:36 PM
many actors might be able to look like the joker,its acting like like him thats the key :)

c'mon mate, give us a little credit. Eccleston fans on this site LOVE the joker, that is why we want eccleston for the role; we want a quality actor... a clasically trained actor, to get the role.

pieeye, darknight, myself and the other eccleston supporters KNOW what a great actor this guy is, first and foremost. the fact that he has physical atributes that scream the joker is just a bonus.

the only way you guys who don't know him can appreciate this is if you watch some of his work here's a list of some of his stuff.

Stuff i can personally vouch for are: cracker,(tv) second coming,(tv) dr who,(tv) shallow grave.(film)

other stuff that is being named on this site and others are: revenger's tragedy,(film) othello,(tv) jude.(film) existenz (film)

you've got to see this stuff to appreciate how this guy can keep you captivated whilst watching him. look we can only point you in the right direction, the rest is up to you...

DarMar106
08-09-2005, 12:39 PM
point taken Id have to see him act before I can judge

dogsgotlipstick
08-09-2005, 12:46 PM
who looks like Bale?

--dk7

if weyseed's referring to CE my friend, then i am going to have to enquire... "weyseed do you wear glasses?:confused: "

The Kid
08-09-2005, 12:51 PM
Yeah, he looks a tad too much like bale. And hmm... now that I look even closer, a bit too much on the Neeson side too.

youngins might think it's ra's in the joker flashbacks. har har

dogsgotlipstick
08-09-2005, 12:54 PM
Yeah, he looks a tad too much like bale.

my friend if your wearing glasses, i think it's time you exchanged them for a guide dog!!!:) :) :)

dogsgotlipstick
08-09-2005, 01:12 PM
Yeah, he looks a tad too much like bale. And hmm... now that I look even closer, a bit too much on the Neeson side too.

youngins might think it's ra's in the joker flashbacks. har har
don't forget freeman...

...so what your saying is neeson looks like eccleston, eccleston looks like bale; surely then, according to your theory, bale looks like neeson?!? mate, if you have got your favourites for the role, thats fine go out and support them. but don't write stuff that makes you look a little silly....

superman05
08-09-2005, 01:43 PM
How about Steve Carrell as Joker?

superman05
08-09-2005, 01:44 PM
How about Steve Carrell as Joker?

darknight7
08-09-2005, 02:05 PM
if weyseed's referring to CE my friend, then i am going to have to enquire... "weyseed do you wear glasses?:confused: "


lol, see, that is why I asked. Because the only person I could think he was reffering too was Chris Eccleston. And I thought, **There is no way, he looks nothing like Bale** ...but i guess thats who he ment. :confused: ...

sorry but i see absolutely 100% NO resemblance...maybe the fact that they are both male, humans...lol, but other than that, sorry, cant see where weyseed is coming from on that one.

--dk7

The Kid
08-09-2005, 02:26 PM
I tell myself all the time that a tad doesn't mean a tad anymore and I was right. When he's not smiling like a maniac, he gives me a bale vibe, it's like a magic bale-ness, maybe the confused look on his face in one of those pics.

Oldman for Joker.

Keyser Soze
08-09-2005, 03:01 PM
I was on the screen-test thread, and posted a list of 8 potential contenders to screen-test for The Joker. I thought I'd post it here too, on the definitive Joker thread. I've deliberately left out big stars. That has meant dropping some of my top choices, like Johnny Depp, Sean Penn and Benicio Del Toro. Tell me what you think of the line-up:

Paul Bettany
Lachy Hulme
Crispin Glover
Tim Roth
Christopher Eccleston
John Leguizamo
Michael Wincott
Paddy Considine

pieeye
08-09-2005, 03:04 PM
he guys dont give this fool the time of day, hes just trying to fluster you

pieeye
08-09-2005, 03:05 PM
not you Keyzer, I mean Wesyeed

The Kid
08-09-2005, 03:08 PM
he guys dont give this fool the time of day, hes just trying to fluster you

no I'm not. Why do you say that? I had a thought on something in the thread and I posted it, same as anyone.

Oldman for Joker. Two characters for the price of one, what a great deal.

Keyser Soze
08-09-2005, 03:13 PM
Actually, if Oldman hadn't been cast as Gordon, he would probably me my top choice to play The Joker.

The Kid
08-09-2005, 03:30 PM
yeah, that really razzes my berries.

If it were up to me, he'd play both.

spanish39
08-09-2005, 05:25 PM
Whend o we update the poll? We can use up to 20 but don't need more than like 10 or 15. Why don't we vote to see who we vote for......if that makes any sense. All the mod has to do is merge the new poll thread into this one and it should replace it.

scarymoviebff13
08-09-2005, 09:59 PM
at first i wasnt sure but after seeing him in a sinister yet humorous role in dogma i realized he good be a very good choice as the joker.

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&i...=214602&intl=us

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&i...=214602&intl=us

http://eur.yimg.com/i/xp/premier_photo/7/7b3c96397b.jpg

http://i.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/030115/132622__guy_l.jpg

if anyone can manip these or have better pictures post them.

TheJuice
08-09-2005, 10:30 PM
Whomever does play Joker, I'd like to see Stan Winston do the make-up effect on the actor.

CrimsonMist
08-09-2005, 10:44 PM
i always found him annoying looking. Like, REALLY annoying looking. I just want to slap him in the face he's so annoying looking. I personally cant stand annoying looking bad guys.

uberdave
08-09-2005, 10:44 PM
I wholeheartedly agree. His character in dogma is a good estimate as to how he'd play the joker. Plus he has a simlar enough facial structure and he's a fan of comics so he'd know the proper way to play him. He recently became my top pick.

SolidRoar
08-09-2005, 11:41 PM
HELL NO! :mad:

BK
08-09-2005, 11:58 PM
I'd rather see Rick Baker do it. He specializes on make-up specifically and he's been in the biz for over 20 years. :up:

Cats
08-10-2005, 12:02 AM
He looks more the part of your next door neighbour attempting to be a stand-up comedian than a psychotic killer with a taste for death. He'll not fit.

Mike
08-10-2005, 12:06 AM
Jason Lee for Joker? Lee as Syndrome was kick ass.

Sarge
08-10-2005, 12:07 AM
Whend o we update the poll? We can use up to 20 but don't need more than like 10 or 15. Why don't we vote to see who we vote for......if that makes any sense. All the mod has to do is merge the new poll thread into this one and it should replace it.
In reference to your sig...BIF is officialy gone? I thought he would come back. :(

antmanx68
08-10-2005, 01:04 AM
Jason Lee would make one bland and annoying Joker. He doesnt have the range. I would get so annoyed at his voice trying to be joker, and not in a good way.

Brian2887
08-10-2005, 02:49 AM
yeah, that really razzes my berries.

If it were up to me, he'd play both.

I'm kinda pissed off too.. Oldman is wasted on Jim Gordon. Sure, it's a good part about a nice guy trying to change things in a hostile environment, but a ton of other actors could do that. Oldman is one of few who could do Joker oh so well.

Brian2887
08-10-2005, 02:55 AM
Lee is a very funny, very talented actor. His performance in Dogma really displayed a healthy mix between comedy and villainy. Under Nolan's direction, he could really turn his Azrael role into something creepy, disturbed, and hilarious, all at the same time. I've been campaining for Lee to be Joker for a long-ass time now.

Lee for Joker!