Joker Casting Threads [merged-30]

[AceFace]

Just this past weekend, I was looking through an Alex Ross book and came apon a picture of the Joker. The art of Alex Ross is beautiful. It puts things in perspective how these characters of the comicbook world would look like in ours, yet maintain a romantic look that would be stunning on screen.

Looking at the picture of the Joker made me think of who would play him if he was the next villian in a Batman Begins sequel. I thought hard but not long and only one name came to mind at the time.....

SAM ROCKWELL....

I'm actually suprised to see nobody mentioned his name. He's up and comming enough where mainstream america could take him seriously and the way he plays evil has this funny appeal. He actually plays evil very well and I always find him to be very scene stealing simply from his weird presence. I can understand though if some of you don't find my choice a good one. I leave it to you. Just a thought.

[pieeye]

many people have mentioned his name...so much for an original pick :I

[DavidTyler]

Well if you're still goin with the more playful, joking and lighthearted type joker then I guess you could still go with Jim Carey, I mean after all the guy can make the Joker's face without the need of make up, that has to count for somethin. I also think he was miscast for the Riddler role, that role was originally offered to Robin Williams who I thought was a better choice but he turned it down after he read the crappy script.

If you wanna go with a darker, homicidal and psychotic joker, my favorite btw, here's a name that hasn't been mentioned yet...how about Crispin Glover. Before you say no, remember his character in Willard.

All that being said I still think Jack did a great job as the joker. :joker:

I DON'T WANT A LIGHTHEARTED JOKER!

I think people get confused about the character because of the name. I don't think the Joker should try at all to be funny. I don't think 'Joker = jokes'. I think Joker = Wildcard ... as in 'dangerously unpredictable'.

And I'm thrilled to see that Crispin Glover is the front runner in this poll. He's been my choice since Nolan first announced 'Intimmidation Game' which we all know became 'Begins'.

Crispin can play a madman with a skewed point of view better than anyone in Hollywood short of Anthony Hopkins.

The Joker is that to me: A Mad Killer. He should be dark (not so much in costuming as in mood), and scary. He should look like the clown face is a deformity not a clown face. If Nolan can somehow make it lean that way, it will be incredibly frightening. ... And that's what the Joker needs to be.

[DavidTyler]

I'm kinda pissed off too.. Oldman is wasted on Jim Gordon. Sure, it's a good part about a nice guy trying to change things in a hostile environment, but a ton of other actors could do that. Oldman is one of few who could do Joker oh so well.

Oldman has publicly stated that he is no longer interested in playing 'villains'. He wants to change his image and play heroic types. Gordon is an excellent start and he is so PERFECT for the role.

Gary, more power to ya. You're excellent as Gordon.

A great actor who brought so much to an underwritten part. Hopefully, the sequel will focus more on the relationship between Gordon and Batman. That would give Oldman the chance to change opinions like yours.

[my0pic_spidey]

I DON'T WANT A LIGHTHEARTED JOKER!


The Joker is that to me: A Mad Killer. He should be dark (not so much in costuming as in mood), and scary. He should look like the clown face is a deformity not a clown face. If Nolan can somehow make it lean that way, it will be incredibly frightening. ... And that's what the Joker needs to be.


My sentiments exact.A dark creepy and serious joker minus the silly pranks would heighten the climactic scenes with bats:up:

[elorenishii386]

i don't know...i like jason lee...i especially loved him in dogma...but im sure whoever nolan thinks is worthy will work

[Nimrandir]

Never seen him act as I can recall, but from tjose pictures...defenitly NO.

[spanish39]

Just this past weekend, I was looking through an Alex Ross book and came apon a picture of the Joker. The art of Alex Ross is beautiful. It puts things in perspective how these characters of the comicbook world would look like in ours, yet maintain a romantic look that would be stunning on screen.

Looking at the picture of the Joker made me think of who would play him if he was the next villian in a Batman Begins sequel. I thought hard but not long and only one name came to mind at the time.....

SAM ROCKWELL....

I'm actually suprised to see nobody mentioned his name. He's up and comming enough where mainstream america could take him seriously and the way he plays evil has this funny appeal. He actually plays evil very well and I always find him to be very scene stealing simply from his weird presence. I can understand though if some of you don't find my choice a good one. I leave it to you. Just a thought.

While Alex Ross does put characters into perspective of how they would look in the real world, when it comes to Joker, he used himself as the model. He felt he had a connection with tat character and so when it came time to have someone or a figure to base his Joker off of he uesd himself. Alex Ross for Joker! Im kidding of course, Just FYI.

[antmanx68]

i don't know...i like jason lee...i especially loved him in dogma...but im sure whoever nolan thinks is worthy will work

N O - R A N G E. and annoying as all hell.... it works for Brodie and Syndrome, but not for a seriously evil villain.

[Salemdog]

I'm gonna throw a name out that I haven't seen ( I might have missed it)and though it's off the wall in many ways if you take in account the factors in this comedian turned dramatic actor has he can fit as the Joker. He's turned into an awesome dramatic actor (ala R. Williams) And man can he play vicious. Plus he has that angular face and lean body many seem to be looking at. So...bust my chops all ya want...here it goes..

Denis Leary

http://newsfeed.tcm.ie/images/people/DenisLeary.jpg

[pieeye]

you DID miss his name...

[Brian2887]

N O - R A N G E. and annoying as all hell.... it works for Brodie and Syndrome, but not for a seriously evil villain.

He's never been given the chance to show his range. Under Nolan's direction, though, he could really turn out a cold, calculating, hilariously evil performance. At least give him a screen test so Nolan can see what the man can do.

[Mr Sensitive]

I don't know. He tends to overacting.

[Brian2887]

I don't know. He tends to overacting.

Overacting might be a positive when it comes to the eccentric Joker.

[pieeye]

Overacting is NEVER positive no matter what role... I dont think we need to go back to the days of Ceasr Romero.

[Brian2887]

Overacting is NEVER positive no matter what role... I dont think we need to go back to the days of Ceasr Romero.

What... the Joker is not an overacting character? He goes from creepy to eccentric terrifying laughter while telling horrible jokes as he executes his victims. The Joker himself overacts. You can't tell me Nicholson didn't overact, and he's remembered as a fantastic Joker. Jason Lee can go from subtle and creepy to evil and creepy and hilarious in seconds flat. That kind of overacting is just what the Joker needs... not campy overacting as you mentioned.

[Mr Sensitive]

Yes, the Joker as a character overacts, you are right, Brian.

But if the actor who plays the Joker overacts (like I suspect Jason Lee does) then he can't control the character, and tends to campy, or bad acting.

Like I said before: I'm not making assumptions. I just think there are better candidates to the part.

[Brian2887]

Yes, the Joker as a character overacts, you are right, Brian.

But if the actor who plays the Joker overacts (like I suspect Jason Lee does) then he can't control the character, and tends to campy, or bad acting.

Like I said before: I'm not making assumptions. I just think there are better candidates to the part.

Jason Lee really doesn't overact, unless the part calls for it. He knows when to tone it down, and when to ham it up. He definitely deserves a screen test for this one.

[Keyser Soze]

I agree with Brian in the sense that Jason Lee is underrated as an actor. Watch his performance in "Vanilla Sky". He's great in that.

But on the other hand, I wouldn't pick him to play The Joker. It's just that all his characters, good guy or bad, have an inherent likeablility to them. No matter who he portrays, he never seems threatening or menacing.

[antmanx68]

The Joker goes WAY over the top, but he's not always like that. It would take a guy with a lot of range to pull off that part. Look at all the different aspects of the Joker: wild maniacal laughter, stone cold serious, crazy tantrums, evil taunting and just about anything else you can think of, hes a total loony loon loon.... even though he is simply named "the joker" he is big time multi-faceted. A one dimensional actor would be very boring, even as great as Nicholson is i find his Joker boring compared to how the character is actually written a lot of the time. If you look at a guy like Gary Oldman, and look at the way he played Dracula, or the villain from The Professional or True Romance his performances are nuonced, and multidimensional.... he has all the quirks and tells of a real bastard, and he pulls off totally unpredictable and deranged. Not saying that he should be the Joker (it would be kind of wierd arresting himself :p ) or that it cant be done any other way, but i dont want a "one trick pony" anywhere near this part. Give Lee a screen test sure, i mean, thats the ultimate test.... but for what we have to go by i'm thinking no.

[The Kid]

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6305/ifeeldirty2sp.gif:up:THIS GUY

[Dark Knight]

The Joker goes WAY over the top, but he's not always like that. It would take a guy with a lot of range to pull off that part. Look at all the different aspects of the Joker: wild maniacal laughter, stone cold serious, crazy tantrums, evil taunting and just about anything else you can think of, hes a total loony loon loon.... even though he is simply named "the joker" he is big time multi-faceted. A one dimensional actor would be very boring, even as great as Nicholson is i find his Joker boring compared to how the character is actually written a lot of the time. If you look at a guy like Gary Oldman, and look at the way he played Dracula, or the villain from The Professional or True Romance his performances are nuonced, and multidimensional.... he has all the quirks and tells of a real bastard, and he pulls off totally unpredictable and deranged. Not saying that he should be the Joker (it would be kind of wierd arresting himself :p ) or that it cant be done any other way, but i dont want a "one trick pony" anywhere near this part. Give Lee a screen test sure, i mean, thats the ultimate test.... but for what we have to go by i'm thinking no.


ahem....Sean Penn.....

[Marina-Myst]

http://edition.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/Movies/9905/11/star.wars.alumnae/mark.hamill.jpg


I know he doesn't look like the Joker, but he was my favourite incarnation, so he should at least get some kind of cameo. And let him do the laugh, his laugh was perfect, kinda like Gorshin's Riddler laugh.

[dogsgotlipstick]

pieeye will soon be blowing you all away with another awesome eccleston manip...

[The Chairman]

You know, I was just on imdb looking up information on Austin Powers: Goldmember, and I was reading a Batman message board, and someone came up with a unique yet workable suggestion: Michael Keaton as The Joker. Yes, everyone knows he was already Batman (he's still my favorite). But after reading the post, I thought back to Beetlejuice, and I think if you took that character and drained it of all the humor and gave him a slightly different look, you would have a great Joker. Plus, after bailing out of Batman Forever (a moxed blessing, since he would saved the movie yet ruin his career), he hasn't exactly been mainstream, making near perfect for the role. Does anyone agree wit me?

[antmanx68]

Lots of people have brought him up for the Joker.

[Timstuff]

Mark Hammil set the standard for which the new actor must be judged. Hammil doesn't look like Joker, and he didn't play him in live action. But anyone who grew up watching BTAS knows he IS the Joker. He nailed the laugh and the personality perfectly. Hopefull the guy they get for the new movie can live up to Hammil's Joker, but also look like the character as well.

[Detective Flass]

Keaton would OWN as Joker, he originally auditioned for him in 89' and landed the role of Batman. Sort of a backwards Cillian Murphy situation.

Too bad it'll never be. :(

[Detective Flass]

Hammil will never casted nor mentioned. Remember, Nolan is trying to seperate his films away from ALL previous incarnations. Keaton has a better chance at Joker then Hammil!

[pieeye]

I grew up seeing TAS and I can tell you that it does not, in any way, represent the definitive protrayal of the Joker. For those of you who still remember that Batman IS based on a COMIC, let me turn your attention to The Killing Joke. This to me is the closest anyone has EVER come to getting a feel for the complexity of the character. As for Hamil, he may have had the voice, but you have to remember that, being a cartoon targeted towards kids, it still had to be somewhat two-dimentional (figuratively and literally). It truly is SAD when the truest nature fo a character (early batman comics, later graphic novels) is relegated to a dusty bookshelf by a mass media cartoon representation. Dont get me wrong, I enjoyed TAS but its time for something new, and I believe that is what the whole purpose of re-hashing the franchise is about.

[Dark Knight]

pieeye will soon be blowing you all away with another awesome eccleston manip...

SWEET!

[DrVenkman90]

Yay I Love Those!!!

[pieeye]

Hello all,

After much painstaking work, I have completed my Manipulation of Christopher Eccleston as The Joker. It was a very complicated process, but fun nonetheless. This Manipulation utilizes the best aspects of his features and keeps the use of possible prosthetics to a minimum. Again, his laughing lines are slightly accentuated, his chin is elongated very slightly. The eyebrows would require a slight augmentation. The nose is untouched, although I did have to recreate it because in the photograph that I used (from his performance in Death and the Compass) he had a slight make-up extension on it. One of the biggest augmentations would have to be to his teeth. The Joker has a slightly gummy smile and I believe this can be acheived by using slighly modified dentures that would be eazy to speak and perform through. Anyway, I hope you like the piece, I spent much time on it, and I offer it now for your critique, observations and over-all enjoyment.

Christopher Eccleston as The Joker:


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/photoshopjk.jpg


thank you

-pieeye

[LastSunrise1981]

Hello all,

After much painstaking work, I have completed my Manipulation of Christopher Eccleston as The Joker. It was a very complicated process, but fun nonetheless. This Manipulation utilizes the best aspects of his features and keeps the use of possible prosthetics to a minimum. Again, his laughing lines are slightly accentuated, his chin is elongated very slightly. The eyebrows would require a slight augmentation. The nose is untouched, although I did have to recreate it because in the photograph that I used (from his performance in Death and the Compass) he had a slight make-up extension on it. One of the biggest augmentations would have to be to his teeth. The Joker has a slightly gummy smile and I believe this can be acheived by using slighly modified dentures that would be eazy to speak and perform through. Anyway, I hope you like the piece, I spent much time on it, and I offer it now for your critique, observations and over-all enjoyment.

Christopher Eccleston as The Joker:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/Jokereyebrs.jpg

By request, I also made one without the eyebrows, I think its a bit creepyer...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/jokernoeyebrs.jpg

thank you

-pieeye

Holy sweet Jesus!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:


:up: :up:

[BK]

Seriously, someone needs to get that to WB or Nolan and co. That is just so amazing. :up:

[pieeye]

here is my second manipulation as Chris as The Joker:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/photoshopjk.jpg



enjoy...

-Pieeye

[Brian2887]

Wow, Pieeye. That really is fantastic. Eccleston really looks the part, but I'm not sure he could act it. I've never heard him with a non-British accent. But dammit, that drawing makes me want him in the role...

[pieeye]

Im sure that like any classically trained actor, Eccleston could pull off an American accent. Even so, he can modify it to sound less broad. I did some acting on stage before and I had to master a brit accent, you would be amazed what a good coach can help you accomplish... Eccleston is sucha great actor, I am sure he could command the American accent.

[JLBats]

This will sound totally insane, but what about Quentin Tarantino as Joker? I just watched him in Alias, and he's basically a hilariously over the top terrorist guy. I could see him in the role.

[pieeye]

He has already been mentioned, your not insane, and he is alltogether annoying to me anyway...it would ruin the expereince to be thinking, hey its Quentin...again:confused:

[pieeye]

I corrected the colors from the last one I posted which is in the quote above...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/photoshopjk.jpg

ahhh much better

[neobido9999]

thats incredible

[Guyverjay]

Yeah you've sold me, though he'd have to ditch the accent:o

[regwec]

Both manips are amazing. I'm glad you are using your talents to further the cause of my actor of choice for the role!

[fatmatt83]

Hello all first time on the board I saw this thread and it got me thinking, (and this may be a bit off topic so I apolygise before hand). Do you know who I always thought would make a great riddler, and I'm talking about the proper riddler not the stupid pretty boy who appeared in the Green Arrow comic recently, Steve Coogan.(Sorry, trailed off a bit I know.)

[regwec]

Yeah, he could be pretty good. I haven't seen him in anything for years, though.

[The Kid]

the fans are always right

[fatmatt83]

Yeah if they did it would have to be the green bowler hat wearing riddler, as for what he's been in I think he was in that Jackie Chan vehicle Around the World in 80 days, (talk about a waste of talent). Anyway Ecclestone as the Joker at first I would have said Alan Cumming but after those photo-manips I've got to say Ecclestone looks like an excellent choice.

[JLBats]

He has already been mentioned, your not insane, and he is alltogether annoying to me anyway...it would ruin the expereince to be thinking, hey its Quentin...again:confused:


I always try to suggest someone a little less well known or someone not everyone is thinking of. I don't neccesarily want Quentin.

[xfan320]

WOW! I've been converted! Christopher Eccleston all the way!!!

great manip, pieeye!

[pieeye]

awesome... thanks for your support!!!

[Kaizer]

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6305/ifeeldirty2sp.gif:up:THIS GUY

Actually, being the brilliant chameleon as he is, I actually think he could pull off doing both Gordon and Joker, but still being unrecognisable...

[geordie_batfan]

I corrected the colors from the last one I posted which is in the quote above...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/photoshopjk.jpg

ahhh much better


That's 'kin perfect.

[Keyser Soze]

Wow, pieeye, that is just amazing. Probably the best manip I've ever seen. You are a fantastic artist, congratulations.

I'd say that your pic has put Christopher Eccleston up into the upper echelons of my shortlist. Though Tim Roth is probably still my top choice...

[The Englishman]

Brillient!!!! Christopher Ecclestone is The Joker!!..:up:

[dogsgotlipstick]

this thread sucks.

well done, very productive input there happy, keep it up.

[dark_b]

people because of a manip you think he is the right choice?
thank god that bale is already batman
look is nothing ..... acting is everything

pieeye great manip

[sassycat]

DAMN Pieeye, you got some skills! :up: :D

[The Dark Guybrush]

first attempt at a decent manip-

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/cataract/bettanyjoker.jpg

[geordie_batfan]

people because of a manip you think he is the right choice?
thank god that bale is already batman
look is nothing ..... acting is everything

pieeye great manip

You just said it right there "acting is everything", and Christopher Eccleston is one hell of an actor. That's why I think he's the right choice. It's just a huge huge bonus that he also looks the part.

[dogsgotlipstick]

people because of a manip you think he is the right choice?
thank god that bale is already batman
look is nothing ..... acting is everything

pieeye great manip

you obviously haven't seen Eccleston act; and i'll bet you'll throw your toys out of the pram if your favourite for the role of joker doesn't get picked...

[neobido9999]

Ecclestone-

tall
thin
eerie (come on, he IS!)
been associated with the series
british (not that the Joker SHOULD -or indeed should NOT -be played by a Brit, but most of the cast are British/Irish so far)
a REALLY decent actor
a geek favourite because of Dr Who
unlike current favourite - bizarre looking. Hulme and Ecclestone would ensure very different interpretations
not a star (i mean that in a good way)
award nominee (well, baftas....)

However, he does have a very strong accent

[canino]

Hello all,

After much painstaking work, I have completed my Manipulation of Christopher Eccleston as The Joker. It was a very complicated process, but fun nonetheless. This Manipulation utilizes the best aspects of his features and keeps the use of possible prosthetics to a minimum. Again, his laughing lines are slightly accentuated, his chin is elongated very slightly. The eyebrows would require a slight augmentation. The nose is untouched, although I did have to recreate it because in the photograph that I used (from his performance in Death and the Compass) he had a slight make-up extension on it. One of the biggest augmentations would have to be to his teeth. The Joker has a slightly gummy smile and I believe this can be acheived by using slighly modified dentures that would be eazy to speak and perform through. Anyway, I hope you like the piece, I spent much time on it, and I offer it now for your critique, observations and over-all enjoyment.

Christopher Eccleston as The Joker:


thank you

-pieeye


Slick manip, Pieeye. Could you please also post the original photograph?
Thanks.

[pieeye]

yes

[pieeye]

here you go...

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/28345630-M.jpg

-pieeye

[antmanx68]

Hey pieeye, that is really a great picture, it even surpasses the original photo which is wierd. I do have one critique though, perhaps you're already aware of it.... if you want to know what it is then let me know. Sick picture though... i'm keeping my fingers crossed that he looks that cool in the movie.

[pieeye]

If it is the eye, then I already know. I was critiqued yesterday about it and I took it well, then again today and I didnt take it so well but I understand. The angle was the trickyest part of the whole thing. It may also be that I need to make it a bit blurry. Anyway, if that is the critique than thank you, otherwize just let me know, its been a while since I have been critiqued but I can take it...

-pieeye

[antmanx68]

If it is the eye, then I already know. I was critiqued yesterday about it and I took it well, then again today and I didnt take it so well but I understand. The angle was the trickyest part of the whole thing. It may also be that I need to make it a bit blurry. Anyway, if that is the critique than thank you, otherwize just let me know, its been a while since I have been critiqued but I can take it...

-pieeye


ha, yea its the eye (good guess :p ). I think that if you darkened the inner corner of his left eye it would fix whatever little bit was off completely...


I have foreseen it....
http://www.grudge-match.com/Images/emperor.gif

[sithgoblin]

Adrien Brody!

[pieeye]

You know, I think I will give it a a tryat some point, but for now it will stay as is. I may send you a copy of the fixed version in PM.

-pieeye

[antmanx68]

coolness. By the way I hate your guts for being too good at digital paintings.

[deDIKnight]

As if your crap antman?

Youre not mate

Both of ya make this blind swordsman look terrible with yer great art

Love the both of ya

Work that is ;)

[antmanx68]

As if your crap antman?

Youre not mate

Both of ya make this blind swordsman look terrible with yer great art

Love the both of ya

Work that is ;)


:joker:

why thank you.

[Caliber]

Adrien Brody!

Interesting choice.

[pieeye]

Antman,

I just couldnt resist, I had to accept your challenge...:0 (swallows his pride)

here is my edit:


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/jkedit2.jpg

Im thinking that it looks alot better, may need some more work but that will come later...

-pieeye

[Mr.Webs]

That is....orgasmic.:o :D

[regwec]

He can lose it. If I can assume a convincing New York accent, then so can a trained actor like Chris.

[dark_b]

lets not forget that bale has an fake american accent in the movie.

[regwec]

Exactly, and so do Oldman, Wilkinson and Murphy.

[Keyser Soze]

I have to say that your pic is absolutely amazing. If Christopher Eccleston IS cast, he should look exactly like that.

What is the next project you have lined up, pieeye? Are you going to try drawing a manip of another potential Joker candidate?

[pieeye]

I am actually working on my own joker website. I am in the design process right now...
at the moment Im not really doing anybody else as The Joker. I like to work Ecclestons face so much because it lends itself very well to the character. Once I have the site up, I MIGHT consider another candidate for comparison. It is alot of work so I will only consider it once I have finished with the site. I am also producing a Joker Comic that I will feature on the site in small vignettes black and white, done in vector art from my graphite drawings:).

Im working on the story right now.

-pieeye

[sithgoblin]

http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/article/534/534861/adrien-brody-20040730060146012.jpg

[The Kid]

it's big bird!

[darknight7]

As you all know, Chris Eccleston is my pick for the Joker. So this post is not serious. But I thought, everyone has been posting ANYONE, so I found a person that would be a shocker. lol, and that no one has thought of. And surprisingly, if he cut his hair, he has Joker Features....lol, lanky, long face, big facial expressions. But anyways, its just for fun, and thought Ide throw him in there so he could be tossed around. lol, its a very, funn pick that people will say NO WAY to...and i no that:)





here it is:


















Weird Al Yankovic















http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8497/weirdalyankovic1rs.jpg

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9377/artistimage7fl.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5648/032704jj8ea.jpg

[Dark Knight]

Antman,

I just couldnt resist, I had to accept your challenge...:0 (swallows his pride)

here is my edit:


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/jkedit2.jpg

Im thinking that it looks alot better, may need some more work but that will come later...

-pieeye

i think his hairline is receded a bit too much but otherwise....great job!

[Dark Knight]

talked to a friend last night while watching BEGINS and he saked whats up with Joker in the next film....who's gonna play him? and i gave him the list of rumoured candidates so far....

Bettany
Hulme
Glover
Eccleston
Roth
Cassel
maybe Depp

out of all of them he said.....he definitely see Roth being the Joker.

He was saying Roth always brings that edginess and intensity to his roles and he plays good villians. Just wanted to give you and outsiders opinion. He says it's also gonna be hard to top Jack though.

He didn't know who Eccleston was or Hulme......Bettany...meh....and Cassel meh.....to him at least.

[Milkman95]

I like Vincent Cassel, Eccleston, Roth, and Bettany.............

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

what jeff said :up:

http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/4048/logo131fd.gif

[Keyser Soze]

I am actually working on my own joker website. I am in the design process right now...
at the moment Im not really doing anybody else as The Joker. I like to work Ecclestons face so much because it lends itself very well to the character. Once I have the site up, I MIGHT consider another candidate for comparison. It is alot of work so I will only consider it once I have finished with the site. I am also producing a Joker Comic that I will feature on the site in small vignettes black and white, done in vector art from my graphite drawings:).

Im working on the story right now.

-pieeye

Sounds great! Make sure to give us a link to your website when it's done. And as for your comic, if the art is of the quality of your Eccleston drawings, then Alex Ross will be crapping his pants...

[BatmanRules33]

Weird Al Yankovic















http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8497/weirdalyankovic1rs.jpg

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9377/artistimage7fl.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5648/032704jj8ea.jpg



NO.

[darknight7]

BatmanRules33...

did you not read my post? lol

--dk7

[mike blub]

just figured i'd throw one more name out there that i don't believe has been mentioned... Ralph Fienes. Watch "Spider", "Red Dragon" or even "Schindler's List" for referrence. if not as joker, he could probably work as Harvey Dent/Two-Face...

[metr0man]

More eccelston manips!!! from different angles! He looks outstanding. How's his acting?

[Keyser Soze]

Christopher Eccleston is a very good actor, actually. not the best out of the candidates, but better than Crispin Glover...

As for Ralph Fiennes, he is an amazing actor. however, he is playing Voldemort in the next Harry Potter villain. And I can't see him playing the most iconic villain in not one, but two Warner Bros film franchises.

[Brian2887]

I just finished Sin City, and Benicio Del Toro shot way up on my list of potential candidates. In the scene in Dwight's car, where Del Toro shows off a bit of vocal range and a sinister, high-pitched laugh, I really saw Joker potential in him. Not my top choice, but the man could do wonders in the role. He wouldn't have the comedic value of say... Jason Lee or Robin Williams, but he'd be creepy as hell with a nice sadistic laugh... It all depends on what kind of Joker you want.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dimension_films/sin_city/benicio_del_toro/sincity.jpg

http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/flipbooks/img/movies/premiere_photos/s/sin_city/52478900KW018_sincityarr_02.jpg

http://www.redargentina.com/Unamiradaalmundo/Cine/OscarAnteriores/Del_Toro.jpg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/movie_pix/oscars/76th_academy_awards_luncheon_photos/benicio_del_toro/oscars2.jpg

[igotatromboner]

You know, that's not a bad choice. He could pull of being a thug before becoming Joker. One hell of a good actor too.

[Keyser Soze]

Yeah, I suggested him a while back. One of my early top choices, and still high in my list.

[Brian2887]

I never really saw it... I've always respected him as an actor, but I didn't think Joker was in him. Sin City made me change my mind on that.

[ROMAragorn]

Hello all,

After much painstaking work, I have completed my Manipulation of Christopher Eccleston as The Joker. It was a very complicated process, but fun nonetheless. This Manipulation utilizes the best aspects of his features and keeps the use of possible prosthetics to a minimum. Again, his laughing lines are slightly accentuated, his chin is elongated very slightly. The eyebrows would require a slight augmentation. The nose is untouched, although I did have to recreate it because in the photograph that I used (from his performance in Death and the Compass) he had a slight make-up extension on it. One of the biggest augmentations would have to be to his teeth. The Joker has a slightly gummy smile and I believe this can be acheived by using slighly modified dentures that would be eazy to speak and perform through. Anyway, I hope you like the piece, I spent much time on it, and I offer it now for your critique, observations and over-all enjoyment.

Christopher Eccleston as The Joker:


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/photoshopjk.jpg


thank you

-pieeye


INCREDIBLE. Great job mate.

After seeing this awesome manipulation of yours I think Christopher Eccelston is a perfect puck for the Joker.:up::up::up::up::up:

[arcangel]

DelToro is my #1 Choice as well, and it was solidified after watching Sin City again and even going back to watching the Usual Suspects. He is one hell of an actor.

[william_blake05]

Wow... that is an incredible job, ROMAragorn. Great work, and yeah, I can see Eccleston pulling it off.

[DorkyFresh]

Wow... that is an incredible job, ROMAragorn. Great work, and yeah, I can see Eccleston pulling it off.
pieeye did that....

....ROMAragorn just quoted pieeye.

[Weadazoid]

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6305/ifeeldirty2sp.gif:up:THIS GUY

So em.... yOU WANT THE COMISHONER TO TUNR OUT TO BE jOKER.?

Or do you just want Gary in a dual role?

[jayg]

Wow! Lots of posts! Hard to read them all! I hope I don't repeat what others have said. I agree with Joker being more diabolical, but he has to be funny doing it. Hopefully, they won't got into his origins at all. They didn't with the Scarecrow. It isn't always necessary. Especially since the movie ended with the Joker already in existence. Nobody knew the Joker's origins until "The Killing Joke" came out. I don't think making his wife the victim of a killing is a good idea. He becomes the Joker almost by circumstance. Nothing ever happened on purpose. It was all accidental, like a never-ending bad day. By suffering from horrible life circumstances is a good way to make someone nuts. How many times have we thought crazy thoughts because of life being bad? Just think of road rage. If something so simple could get someone to kill somebody, imagine a lot of those days happening in a row?

I do NOT want Jim Carrey playing the Joker. He's funny, but he never becomes the character. He is always "Jim Carrey as..." He did it to the Riddler (which pissed me off).

[Brian2887]

Wow! Lots of posts! Hard to read them all! I hope I don't repeat what others have said. I agree with Joker being more diabolical, but he has to be funny doing it. Hopefully, they won't got into his origins at all. They didn't with the Scarecrow. It isn't always necessary. Especially since the movie ended with the Joker already in existence. Nobody knew the Joker's origins until "The Killing Joke" came out. I don't think making his wife the victim of a killing is a good idea. He becomes the Joker almost by circumstance. Nothing ever happened on purpose. It was all accidental, like a never-ending bad day. By suffering from horrible life circumstances is a good way to make someone nuts. How many times have we thought crazy thoughts because of life being bad? Just think of road rage. If something so simple could get someone to kill somebody, imagine a lot of those days happening in a row?

I do NOT want Jim Carrey playing the Joker. He's funny, but he never becomes the character. He is always "Jim Carrey as..." He did it to the Riddler (which pissed me off).

I disagree with the Jim Carrey thing. He'd be an excellent Joker, but I think the simple fact he's already been the Riddler disqualifies him from contention. He is a wonderful actor, as well as a gifted comedian. His comedies may be off-the wall and hilarious, but his dramas, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and The Truman Show, both show off dramatic excellence Carrey isn't usually given the chance to show... Under Nolan's direction, he could do wonders in the role, but again, I don't want him due to connections with the previous franchise.

[ROMAragorn]

Wow... that is an incredible job, ROMAragorn. Great work, and yeah, I can see Eccleston pulling it off.

Ow ow hold your horse matey. That is not my job. It's pieeye 's work. I wish it was.

:0

[spanish39]

So when do we get a new poll? We should all get our lists together over the next few days and take the top choices to the poll, what do you all think?

[blindman]

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[The Bat]

no big names...so here is my guess to the possible list of candidates that will be screentested.

Bettany
Eccleston
Cassell
Roth
Glover




All good choice's!! As far as I'm concerned...I don't think We could go wrong with any of these Guy's.:up:

[Brian2887]

So when do we get a new poll? We should all get our lists together over the next few days and take the top choices to the poll, what do you all think?

I agree... but it needs to have the option of choosing multiple candidates, as I'd be happy with quite a few... And, Jason Lee needs to be on it.

[Milkman95]

Cassel is the man..........

[Mr Sensitive]

My favourite too.

[Marina-Myst]

Stop me if yoyu've heard this one before, but...Marilyn Manson.

[Milkman95]

Again, Cassel is a good choice, plus, he's in with WB after Ocean's 12.......

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/ocean_s_twelve/vincent_cassel/twelvepreg.jpg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/cannes/cannes_film_festival_2004_photos/vincent_cassel/cannes.jpg

[Darth Nata]

I know there are so many suggestions for The Joker around but I think that Eric Bana could do the role justice. Anyone who has seen Chopper will know how good he is at playing a complete psychopath and his roots lie in comedy as he did stand up here in Australia for many years.

He has the right height and with a bit of work with make up/prosthetics could look a lot like The Joker.

Also another guy who I think could do ok is Mackenzie Crook. He is in the UK version of The Office and Pirates of The Carribean.

Opinions?

[The Chairman]

(Please Forgive Me If Someome Posted This)

You know, a really funny thought crossed my mind. What if they had Tom Cruise play The Joker and have him kill Katie Holmes' character? That would be interesting. It would never happen and I'm certainly not being serious in the least, but it would be pretty funny and ironic.









"If There's A Bustle In Your Hedgegrove, Don't Be Alarmed Now" - Led Zeppelin, 1971

[The Kid]

So em.... yOU WANT THE COMISHONER TO TUNR OUT TO BE jOKER.?

Or do you just want Gary in a dual role?

either way is fine as long as gary delivers another one of his brilliant performances.:up:

[antmanx68]

I know there are so many suggestions for The Joker around but I think that Eric Bana could do the role justice. Anyone who has seen Chopper will know how good he is at playing a complete psychopath and his roots lie in comedy as he did stand up here in Australia for many years.


Opinions?

E Gads NO! Like watchin paint dry. And a backgroun in comedy isnt even really a plus for the Joker, I see a lot of people saying "We know he can do the comedy because of _____" but he shouldnt be funny.

[BK]

Not necessarily. I agree that he shouldn't be a comedian in a funny sense. But imo I definitely think we need to laugh at what he does. There's plenty of times in BTAS or even the new Batman cartoon where I was laughing my ass off because of the outrageous things he was doing.

[Darth Nata]

American audiences wont have really had the chance to see Bana in a comedic role but all the aussies know how funny this guy is.

I dunno if anyone outside of Australia would of really had the chance to see Chopper but if you have then you obviously know how well he can act crazy.

[mongo44]

Okay I haven’t been in this thread for a while or posted in it (I got a little burned out). I believe some on here at one time suggested Steve Carrell. My first reaction was “WHAT”? But since then I got wind again that he was “maybe” in the running.

I caught the NBC marathon of The Office last night. I haven’t seen the BBC version and if it is indeed funnier I need to get it. My point is I do love the show (sorry). I was working on the computer and walked out of the room for a few moments. I came back in to see him delivering a comic monologue that was very dark and disturbing. I watched him for the next two hours and let me tell you something, as a big Batman fan and advocate for a solid choice for the Joker, he would be amazing in the role.

His character in the office wants to be a comedian or funny guy. His disturbing choices of humor are not funny for the characters. I’m rolling though. But when I watched him with the mindset of “this is not a comedy” some of his jokes were very disturbing. And the kind of jokes the Joker should tell if any.

Humor me all and check out a few episodes and give me your constructive take on it. I’m thinking he could be a darkhouse surprise choice that wouldn’t disappoint us.

http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/steve-carell.jpg

[antmanx68]

I do watch the office, its an awesome show. But Carell is not even the least bit Jokerish in it. He could be great, but so could possibly Adam Sandler or any other actor who is talented and funny. I dont see any indication at all that he would be even a decent choice for the Joker.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I still think Richard E Grant could do this role rather well.

:up:

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2673/untitled9zu.png

[raybia]

Antman,

I just couldnt resist, I had to accept your challenge...:0 (swallows his pride)

here is my edit:


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b199/pieeye/jkedit2.jpg

Im thinking that it looks alot better, may need some more work but that will come later...

-pieeye

Hell yeah!!! If he acts as good as he looks then we have a winner!!!

[dogsgotlipstick]

Hell yeah!!! If he acts as good as he looks then we have a winner!!!

check out eccleston in shallow grave
othello
second coming
cracker
revenger's tragedy

[dogsgotlipstick]

Okay I haven’t been in this thread for a while or posted in it (I got a little burned out). I believe some on here at one time suggested Steve Carrell. My first reaction was “WHAT”? But since then I got wind again that he was “maybe” in the running.

I caught the NBC marathon of The Office last night. I haven’t seen the BBC version and if it is indeed funnier I need to get it. My point is I do love the show (sorry). I was working on the computer and walked out of the room for a few moments. I came back in to see him delivering a comic monologue that was very dark and disturbing. I watched him for the next two hours and let me tell you something, as a big Batman fan and advocate for a solid choice for the Joker, he would be amazing in the role.

His character in the office wants to be a comedian or funny guy. His disturbing choices of humor are not funny for the characters. I’m rolling though. But when I watched him with the mindset of “this is not a comedy” some of his jokes were very disturbing. And the kind of jokes the Joker should tell if any.

Humor me all and check out a few episodes and give me your constructive take on it. I’m thinking he could be a darkhouse surprise choice that wouldn’t disappoint us.

http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/steve-carell.jpg

before you go saying that, "his disturbing choice of humour...etc" you should remember that he didn't write it ricky gervais did, and he didn't even do as good a job as jervais in the show. (which was translated word for word from the british version!) i mentioned somewhere else on this forum that nolan could do worse than to colaborate with gervais on the jokers humour; this should be just as "cringe-worthy" as that of david brent
(british equivelent of carrells character...) good gosh, you really need to see the original version of the office...

[DOO BEE]

thank you for correcting him, ricky gervais is the funniest man in the world i don't want his as the joker but still he is a pisser, and the US "the office" boss is a **** choice for the joke that is for future posts and the joker should not be in the style of "DAVID BRENT*"

(*david brent is the uk office boss played by ricky gervais)

[dogsgotlipstick]

thank you for correcting him, ricky gervais is the funniest man in the world i don't want his as the joker but still he is a pisser, and the US "the office" boss is a **** choice for the joke that is for future posts and the joker should not be in the style of "DAVID BRENT*"

(*david brent is the uk office boss played by ricky gervais)

i'm not saying joker should be like brent; you know the unintentional funnys that brent comes out with, the ones that make you cringe, the joker should crack these type of jokes, and not care that he is being offensive. that is what gervais could bring to the script writing.

by the way, have been to melbourne (stayed in st kilda), lovely city.

[Exabyte]

With all of the "Cast Joker" threads, this one actually asks some new questions. I like that.


I think we should stay away from camp, for the most part. This Joker has to be PURE EVIL. We want people to enjoy the fact that he IS The Clown Prince of Crime. He has to be purely ruthless, his jokes have to be more cruel than cute, and his eyes have to have the look of pure insanity...because that's what Joker is...he's insane.

Yeah, we love to laugh at him sometimes, and there would be moments to do that, but the heart of the character has to be of pure fear & hatred. It's ok to like him, but like him b/c he's evil and likes being evil, that's it.

I think a purple suit is something you can't touch...but I'd like to see a variation. He's always wearing straight purple with green & orange, maybe a bit of light blue. Nicholson's wore plaid, a fashion moment of the era. I'd be more interested in a fitted suit that was maybe black with purple pinstripes, or at least purple with black pinstripes. If the suit is all purple, which I think would be the way to go, as easily explained by the suit losing color dye when he falls in the vat of acid, I think a different color combo may work better, but I'm no fashion major. I just think he wouldn't wear orange and green silk. Nolan's Joker will probably be more realistic than that, don't you think?

As for his origin, I think they'll parallel his to Bruce's, to create the ultimate yin-yang relationship between the two; they're both the same, but made different choices. Burton tried this, but I think he failed. I don't know how Nolan will tell the origin any differently than Burton did, to be quite honest. Let's hear your thoughts.

Yeah, I want a more dark humor joker, not the kind of campy silly one we got in 89, however, a great performance, still I didn't get a feeling like I should be scared of this guy. In BB, when he made his first attack, I was feeling a little freaked out because this Batman is scary. Also the bright colors don't do the joker justice.

[Timstuff]

Joker should wear a long black coat and a wide brimmed black hat.

[Spidey-Bat]

Joker should wear a long black coat and a wide brimmed black hat.

It's taken:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Villianc.jpg

[Robin91939]

sdahttp://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5923/photoshopjk9pz.jpg
This manip made Eccelson (sp) pass Glover as my number one choice for Joker.

-R

[Spidey-Bat]

This manip made Eccelson (sp) pass Glover as my number one choice for Joker.

-R

Eccleston. Get it right. :o

[dogsgotlipstick]

i'm not saying joker should be like brent; you know the unintentional funnys that brent comes out with, the ones that make you cringe, the joker should crack these type of jokes, and not care that he is being offensive. that is what gervais could bring to the script writing.

by the way, have been to melbourne (stayed in st kilda), lovely city.

Watch extras HBO or BBC

Ben stiller: "who am I?"
Ricky Gervais: "Starsky or Hutch, I can never remember..."
Stiller: "was that supposed to be funny?"
Gervais:"you tell me, you were in it..."

comedy gold...

[Keyser Soze]

Did anyone read Steve Carrell's comments on the rumours that he was in the running for The Joker?

He said something along the lines that it wasn't true, and they probably wouldn't be interested in him. However, he did say that he'd love to play the role if they DID want him...

[Antonello Blueberry]

Watch extras HBO or BBC

Ben stiller: "who am I?"
Ricky Gervais: "Starsky or Hutch, I can never remember..."
Stiller: "was that supposed to be funny?"
Gervais:"you tell me, you were in it..."

comedy gold...
I loved episode 3 with Kate Winslet.

[Keyser Soze]

This week's one with Samuel L Jackson was the best. Even though jackson wasn't in it all that much...

[Two-Face]

What about Benicio Del Toro as Joker?

[Keyser Soze]

He is one of my top choices. Though I still prefer Tim Roth...

[DorkyFresh]

Vincent Cassel - this guy has a VERY Joker look. that picture of his cheesing just SCREAMS Joker. the only thing that's making me doubt him is his French accent.....but i watched "Renegade/Blueberry" and he pulled off a decent country accent and with an accent/dialect coach...I'm sure he can pull off a regular American accent. he's tall, slim, and not old...which is supposedly what they're looking for. He's my number one pick.....but others I would like to see Paul Bettany and Tim Roth also.

I wouldn't mind seeing Benicio Del Toro or Eccleston. I'd rather not see Crispin Glover or Lachey Hulme in the role though.

[Knightsaber Priss]

I have found the perfect guy to play the Joker.

http://i.timeinc.net/ew/img/daily/632/carrot_l.jpg

No one inspires fear in the hearts of mortal men and women more than Carrot Top.

[The Nose Goblin]

I have found the perfect guy to play the Joker.

http://i.timeinc.net/ew/img/daily/632/carrot_l.jpg

No one inspires fear in the hearts of mortal men and women more than Carrot Top.
Is that Rob Cordory from The Daily Show next to Carrot Top in that pic?

[antmanx68]

Carrot top is friggin built, like Bale style. He used to work out at the same gym as me, lifts as much as I do and he's half my size.

[Knightsaber Priss]

I think he looks terrible with all those muscles.

[The Chairman]

I was just watching my dvd set of the first season of 24, and I think I came up with what I consider a great choice for The Joker. How about Keifer Sutherland? Think about it. He's about the right age, can be menacing and sadistic (even when he's a good guy) and frankly to me, he's a pretty creepy guy. I mean did any of you see The Lost Boys?

Keifer will probably prove to be as popular as Sean Penn, but I myself think he'd be a fantastic Joker.

[dr.strange]

im sorry if this guys been named already,how about vince vaughn?ive never seen him in person,but i hear hes like 6-4/6-5.the joker is very skinny so hed have to lose some lbs.

[antmanx68]

I dont like Vince Vaughn for Joker... just cuz he's Vince Vaughn, he'd kind of be wasted on Joker.... they need someone more Jokerish.

[Alfie Luke]

I just got another idea for who could play the Joker...

He's not very 'popular', but I think he has the looks and the talent:
Norm MacDonald

http://www.perfectpeople.net/media/celebs/489/0089.jpg

[FCEEVIPER]

I just got another idea for who could play the Joker...

He's not very 'popular', but I think he has the looks and the talent:
Norm MacDonald

http://www.perfectpeople.net/media/celebs/489/0089.jpg
[NormMacDonald'sVoice]Note to self: No[/NormMacDonald'sVoice]

:p

[Babs Gordon]

there are quite a few candidates i'd be comfortable with and i'm sure chris nolan will do a great job with casting:

tim roth
christopher eccleston
paul bettany
crispin glover...


their looks are all good for the part although i think eccleston has the most intimidating joker look.

[The Last Meatbag]

No Crispin Glover, doesnt have the attitude or the flamboyance

[The Last Meatbag]

WILL SMITH FOR JOKER!!!!!!

[Mr Sensitive]

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHooHooHeeHee

[Two-Face]

Benicio Del Torro for Joker

[xfan320]

i have such a strong feeling paul bettany is going to be joker, my psychic powers predict it.

Eccleston is number two, no one else.

who else is getting the "joker casting vibe" from them?

am i the only one?

[Alfie Luke]

I watched A BEAUTIFUL MIND last night ( first time! ) and I tried to pay more attention to the character Paul Bettany is playing and frankly... I don't quite see it happening.

You see, I think that Bettany DOES have a 'body language' that could be appropriate for the Joker, but it's the face... it just doesn't fit into 'my' vision of the Joker... then again, it's not MY movie, it's someone else's.

[Sarge]

I'm not sure why people are gunning for Del Toro all of the sudden. I mean, he's a great actor and all, but his speech is just so...muddled. His voice is just way too deep and he really doesn't have the presence or the look for the Joker.

[antmanx68]

I watched A BEAUTIFUL MIND last night ( first time! ) and I tried to pay more attention to the character Paul Bettany is playing and frankly... I don't quite see it happening.

You see, I think that Bettany DOES have a 'body language' that could be appropriate for the Joker, but it's the face... it just doesn't fit into 'my' vision of the Joker... then again, it's not MY movie, it's someone else's.

The other night i caught the end of the movie and iwas thinking that Bettany has such great expressions and is just a good actor. I look at his performance as Chaucer in A Knight's Tale and its just awesome. I think he has a very good Joker performance in him.

[Alfie Luke]

^ That's the thing... as far as talent goes, he has it. He seems like he could be an excellent Joker, but the face is FAR from what I'd expect from a guy playing the Joker ( I know, I know... there's always make up and prostetics, but still... ) I don't think it goes with the character.

[Keyser Soze]

I wouldn't mind Paul Bettany as The Joker. He's in my top ten list, but probably quite low down on it...

[FCEEVIPER]

Benicio Del Torro for Joker
mmmmmmmh that might work.

[Mike_D]

I honestly dont know why Mark Hamil is still being considered by the fans...hes OLD...REALLY OLD. Must be the voice...

[psychocheeseman]

Maybe that could be cool, give him a chance to finally get over the whole type cast of luke skywalker. then again, all through the movie you'd be expecting him to suddenly pull out a light saber. Or Batman would try and throw him off with a quick "joker....I AM YOUR FATHER" gag......

[dogsgotlipstick]

to all you eccleston fans out there; does it not seem funny that around the time CE was deciding to quit Dr who, he just 'lost' out on the role of scarecrow? maybe he didn't lose out, but was earmarked by nolan for the joker! infact who's to say the screen testing didn't happen during testing for BB?

[Detective Flass]

1. Tim Roth
2. Paul Bettany
3. Matthew Modine
4. Christopher Eccleston
5. Lachy Hulme (Now that I've Seen Four Jacks, I'm convinced he can play Mr. J.)

[darknight7]

i have such a strong feeling paul bettany is going to be joker, my psychic powers predict it.

Eccleston is number two, no one else.

who else is getting the "joker casting vibe" from them?

am i the only one?

I no that vibe that youre talking about. And as much as I want Vincent Cassel and Christopher Eccleston. Deep down, i feel that it is going to go to

LACHY HULME
or
PAUL BETTANY

if those are the 2 guys rumored, than it just seems so possible. Especially since Hulme was picked by Nolan, and was invited to the opening of BB...

well, im not saying for sure who it will be, but im calling one of those 2 guys.

SO HOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE????

Who do you think (NOT WHO DO U WANT) who do u think is giong to get it. Tell us about your vibe ppl.

--dk7

[sasquatchs]

1. Tim Roth
2. Paul Bettany
3. Matthew Modine
4. Christopher Eccleston
5. Lachy Hulme (Now that I've Seen Four Jacks, I'm convinced he can play Mr. J.)

Was Four Jacks any good? I'm intrigued, just ordered it on impulse, only £4.50 from Play.com with free delivery so thought I might as well.

[spanish39]

For people who doubt Hulme, remember this, he is still an actor and one who is looking for a big break at at that. I'm more than sure that if he was officialy handed the role that he would do everthing he possibly could to convince us that he is the right man. Just think, he knows he has to do the Joker for one, two, he knows he has to top or try to top Jack Nicholson, three, he has to prove that he is actually a good actor in a regular role instead of a cameo.

If it was one of you selected wouldn't you practice the look and laugh and smile to yourself as much as possible before filming to get it right? He won't just walk in there put on 4 hours of make-up and film half-assed. He will be trying to prove something to us and himself. I'm more than sure he will give it his all if selected and change your minds. There must be something about this guy that Mr. Nolan sees that we have yet to, especially since he is American and not British like most of his actors useually are.

Bottom line......Hulme will practice to make perfect and he is a virtual unknown except to us, and even then, have you seen his only starring film? Me neither. Just believe and prey they know what they are doing. HULME DAMMITT! lol :o :o :o

BESIDES, with this new news who knows, Joker could get skipped all together. They may decide to go off in another direction just to fool us and give us a movie we were not expecting. Personally that would suck, but, what can we do.
He says the nod to the Joker in the current movie "was our way of tipping our hats to the very first Batman movie [in which Jack Nicholson was the Joker]."

[NOFX]

This thread is boring:o

[Alfie Luke]

Lachy's not from America spanish... he's freakin' Australian!

Get your freakin' facts right!!!! ... please. :D

[deathfromabove]

This guy won't have much time for films he's playing Dr Who so I can't see him being in any films for a while.

he"s already quit dr who. he says one season and hes out.

[deathfromabove]

that manip is exactly how i want joker to look. awesome. hey pieeye, have you ever shown your work in an art gallery? if you want to contact me.

[Ocelot]

Wait, what happened to Christopher Lloyd?

LoL, that would be so funny to see Lloyd play the Joker and then all of a sudden mid scene he goes into "Doc Brown mode".
-Great scott!! I traveled back from the future but in a dimension where comic book stories are a reality and Im the Joker!

All of sudden Marty comes out of an alley

- "Doc this is really heavy ****!! One second Im in the time machine, the next second Im wearing this red and yellow suit and this guy in a big black suit is hovering over saying "Quiet now, little Robin, just be still.....just be still now....."

That would be awesome:D

[benney]

Wow. Good manip. Do you have a website of your work pieeye?

[IronLion]

at first i thought..."mmmmmmmmmmmmm" and "errrrr" at the thought of chris, but when i saw the manips, he has the face that could pull it off. he has the acting skill too. quality choice.

[darknight7]

man, ide be pretty bummed out if Joker wasnt in the sequal. Frig, hes the greatest villain of all time, IMO.

--dk7

[That-Guy]

Hey I didn't go back through the pages of this thread because I'm lazy, so if this has been suggested before, please forgive me, but I was watching Cruel Intentions the other day and I began to think that Ryan Phillipe would make one hell of a good Joker. At times, I think he's got "the look" more than just about anyone else who has been suggested, and he can play a manipulative bastard (Cruel Intentions) or a mean S.O.B. (The Way of the Gun) very well. He's also close in age to Bale, which would make sense because Batman and the Joker are, as far as I know, roughly about the same age. What do you guys think?

http://lostinthepast.shunpike.net/a/Cruel1/ci1101.jpg

http://lostinthepast.shunpike.net/a/Cruel1/ci1038.jpg

http://lostinthepast.shunpike.net/a/Cruel1/ci1033.jpg

http://lostinthepast.shunpike.net/a/Cruel1/ci1016.jpg

[Alfie Luke]

It is a rather... interesting choice.

Far from being dumb. I proudly salute you, young man! Oyah!

[pieeye]

No I do not have a website, but it is coming soon...

[Keyser Soze]

Ryan Philippe is quite an interesting choice. And one I'd never thought of before...

[That-Guy]

Thanks! Yeah, there was one scene in that movie in particular (which I unfortunately couldn't find a picture of) where his mannerisms and facial expressions absolutely SCREAMED Joker to me. I don't know if he's even being considered for the role, but I think he'd be perfect.

[The Last Meatbag]

Dude Ryan Philippe is a perfect choice...........I cant believe I never thought of it

[spanish39]

What are you Alfie the fact police lol?

Whatever, America or Australia I forgot, oh well. The point remains the same either way, he is not Your-a-pee'n.

Oh, and IMO Ryan Phillipe overacts his characters. It's like watching Anakin Skywalker everytime or something, same emotins as Anny in every role he plays. I know he's not Anakin I'm just saying thats how he comes across, like Hayden, and that just dosen't seem like Joker to me. Not to mention he had to suck off Mike Myers in "Studio 54".....(shutters in disgust)

[dogsgotlipstick]

Hey I didn't go back through the pages of this thread because I'm lazy, so if this has been suggested before, please forgive me, but I was watching Cruel Intentions the other day and I began to think that Ryan Phillipe would make one hell of a good Joker. At times, I think he's got "the look" more than just about anyone else who has been suggested, and he can play a manipulative bastard (Cruel Intentions) or a mean S.O.B. (The Way of the Gun) very well. He's also close in age to Bale, which would make sense because Batman and the Joker are, as far as I know, roughly about the same age. What do you guys think?

http://lostinthepast.shunpike.net/a/Cruel1/ci1101.jpg

http://lostinthepast.shunpike.net/a/Cruel1/ci1038.jpg

http://lostinthepast.shunpike.net/a/Cruel1/ci1033.jpg

http://lostinthepast.shunpike.net/a/Cruel1/ci1016.jpg

you seriously want this baby face!?!

[Mr. Freeze]

Ryan Phillipee......................... is d amn good choice

THat guy, gets the award for most original choice that actully makes sense

[xfan320]

it is quite inspired, from "left field" i say.

i'd go with it, even though his nose is flat and wide.

[Dark Knight]

I watched A BEAUTIFUL MIND last night ( first time! ) and I tried to pay more attention to the character Paul Bettany is playing and frankly... I don't quite see it happening.

You see, I think that Bettany DOES have a 'body language' that could be appropriate for the Joker, but it's the face... it just doesn't fit into 'my' vision of the Joker... then again, it's not MY movie, it's someone else's.

exactly....that is my problem with Bettany. His face just doesn't cut it for me as Joker. Now, Christoper Eccleston face would be really creepy if he were Joker. Eccleston i can see as Joker!

[Dark Knight]

to all you eccleston fans out there; does it not seem funny that around the time CE was deciding to quit Dr who, he just 'lost' out on the role of scarecrow? maybe he didn't lose out, but was earmarked by nolan for the joker! infact who's to say the screen testing didn't happen during testing for BB?


Exactly! I think Eccleston is the sleeper choice for Joker! He is my favorite to play him.....i think he would be more appropriate then Bettany, thats for sure!

[xfan320]

i know his face isn't like what we've seen the joker as before, but bettany just seems like the kind of actor you really could overlook his facial features, or lack there of.

Eccleston is great too!

he's got the face and acting ability, I just love paul bettany, that is, in a heterosexual man kind of way. *ahem*

[antmanx68]

no offense, but I think a few of you have gone a little daffy. It IS nice to see a new name thrown into the mix, but i think Ryan Philippe would be a pretty bad Joker. He has a naturally pouty expression, and he's good at playing spoiled rich kids. He is a good actor, and its not like you have to be the spittin' image of the character to play him but for God sakes how can you say he'd be "damn good" or "perfect" for Joker. I'd say he's in the lower half of all the candidates in this thread.

[Mr. Freeze]

Whatever so far no canidates have really striked me as a great Joker canidate

I mean none of them literally......

[Equinox]

This was a Lachy Hulme manip done over at BOF-

(I dont know if anyone posted it before, so excuse)

http://www.batman-on-film.com/manips/lachyhulme_joker3.jpg

[pieeye]

Ill work on a much better Hulme manip for my site... the same amount of detail as in the last Eccleston manip...that is not bad though. Its done with little or no exaggeration to the face which works well.

[TheJuice]

Brian C. Bethel for Joker

[psychocheeseman]

Ecclestone is by far the best choice for the joker. Its a pitty he dropped out of dr who, he finished way too early, but it increased recognition of his previous work, which is a good thing. So far i'm yet to see Eccelstone in an unconvincing role. I think he'd do an awesome job.

and for joker experience aparently he's in season 2 or 3 of a 'league of gentleman' as a crazy person (possibly in a purple suit) something about cats?

[drknight]

I fixed this pic, so it's clearer:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker2.jpg

[That-Guy]

Glad some of you agree with me. For those of you who don't, no big deal... I trust that (if Nolan comes back) whoever they cast will be the perfect Joker. After all, I never would have pictured Cillian Murphy as the Scarecrow or Liam Neeson as Ra's, and look how awesome that turned out.

[Milkman95]

I still like Vincent Cassel as well........

[psychocheeseman]

No way to that Ryan Phillipe guy, he's way to girlie, he'd make joker camp, and that can't happen.

[Caliber]

Until I see Jude Law play a psychoitic, he isn't a good choice.

[That-Guy]

No way to that Ryan Phillipe guy, he's way to girlie, he'd make joker camp, and that can't happen.


You need to watch The Way of the Gun.

[That-Guy]

Until I see Jude Law play a psychoitic, he isn't a good choice.


Have you seen Road to Perdition? If not, you really should check it out. He plays a grade-A nutbar in that movie. He also played a bit of a whacko ass hole in Closer (though I wouldn't call his character a psycho).

[Dark Knight]

Ecclestone is by far the best choice for the joker. Its a pitty he dropped out of dr who, he finished way too early, but it increased recognition of his previous work, which is a good thing. So far i'm yet to see Eccelstone in an unconvincing role. I think he'd do an awesome job.

and for joker experience aparently he's in season 2 or 3 of a 'league of gentleman' as a crazy person (possibly in a purple suit) something about cats?

league of gentleman?? is that TV show? and what network?

[dogsgotlipstick]

league of gentleman?? is that TV show? and what network?

league of gentlemen is a comedy programme based in the fictional english town of royston vacey. it is a little 'deliverence' in style, the towns residents are 'grotesques' tubbs and edward run the local shop for 'local people.' once you enter the town you never leave. it can be quite scary yet hilarious, with some incredibly bizarre characters on show. well worth a watch... in fact these characters featured in a film earlier this year called the league of gentlemen: APOCALYPSE. again well worth a watch... it's a BBC production.

[regwec]

It was a BBC production. You might be able to get it on BBC America, though I'm not sure.

I had no idea that Eccleston was ever in it. Cool...

[drknight]

I still like Vincent Cassel as well........

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker7.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

I don't really like Vincent Cassell as an actor. I don't think he'd fit the role of The Joker.

[Asr]

Hey I didn't go back through the pages of this thread because I'm lazy, so if this has been suggested before, please forgive me, but I was watching Cruel Intentions the other day and I began to think that Ryan Phillipe would make one hell of a good Joker. At times, I think he's got "the look" more than just about anyone else who has been suggested, and he can play a manipulative bastard (Cruel Intentions) or a mean S.O.B. (The Way of the Gun) very well. He's also close in age to Bale, which would make sense because Batman and the Joker are, as far as I know, roughly about the same age. What do you guys think?

Ryan Phillippe is an interesting choice. And I wouldn't criticize his looks either. He doesn't look like those pics anymore. I saw him the other day on a Conan O'Brien re-run when he was promoting Crash. I was holy hell he finally looks like a MAN! And his voice was deeper too. Phillippe is not a bad choice.

[Mr. Freeze]

Vincent Cassel damn well looks like the Joker and i gotta say is the best choic3e so far

I mean he always plays that kinda of clowny type guy not to mention he looks like the joker better than any of the other canidates

[Keyser Soze]

I disagree. I think Christopher Eccleston, Paul Bettany and Crispin Glover, to name a few, look more the part than he does.

And besides, loks aren't all that important in my opinion. I'd rather have someone like Tim Roth, who doesn't look exactly like Joker in the comics, but could really nail the essence of the character, than someone who merely looks the part.

[Tangled Web]

Someone do a manip of Jason Lee as the Joker please.

[Brandanday]

i think Vince Mcmahon should sign up and play the joker. he would be perrrfect.

[spanish39]

This was a Lachy Hulme manip done over at BOF-

(I dont know if anyone posted it before, so excuse)

http://www.batman-on-film.com/manips/lachyhulme_joker3.jpg

This would actualy be mine lol. I did it way before the drawing, I did one other version but I think it's long gone or on a disc somewhere, anyway.

[drknight]

I disagree. I think Christopher Eccleston, Paul Bettany and Crispin Glover, to name a few, look more the part than he does.

And besides, loks aren't all that important in my opinion. I'd rather have someone like Tim Roth, who doesn't look exactly like Joker in the comics, but could really nail the essence of the character, than someone who merely looks the part.

I am a huge Bettany supporter (I want him or Jude). But to say he looks more the part than Cassel is pushing it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker7.jpghttp://cobweb.scarymonsters.net/~corleyj/images/mush/crazy4it.jpg

[twinfrodo]

I've heard people say not to go for people because of hertiage like European and Austrailin I've never considered the Joker to be specifically a certain nationality but I'm newbie to Dc stuff is the Joker not originally a U.s Citizen or are you saying you don't want people with a certain heritage I'm confused so if someone could help.

[Ocelot]

LoL, that would be so funny to see Lloyd play the Joker and then all of a sudden mid scene he goes into "Doc Brown mode".
-Great scott!! I traveled back from the future but in a dimension where comic book stories are a reality and Im the Joker!

All of sudden Marty comes out of an alley

- "Doc this is really heavy ****!! One second Im in the time machine, the next second Im wearing this red and yellow suit and this guy in a big black suit is hovering over saying "Quiet now, little Robin, just be still.....just be still now....."

That would be awesome:D

Hey why hasnt anyone commented on this, its a kick ass idea! We would kill 2 birds with one stone, Batman fans get a sequel and everyone else gets an awesome 4th Back to the Future movie. And Spielberg and Nolan can work side by side directing lol.

[antmanx68]

Many of the actors who have been suggested are British. The problem is that someone like Cassell who naturally has a good look has a wicked French accent that it might be hard for him to shake. But I havent heard of anyone counting out an actor just because of their country of origin, Joker just has to be a white guy who can sound like an American who's gone loony.

[Farva]

Joker just has to be a white guy who can sound like an American who's gone loony.

So this is our next Joker?

http://www.dvd-biz.hu/image_upload/big_2004_01_05_16_48_tom_cruise_nagy.jpg

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Farva]

Oh, and look this must be where he finally went nuts. Anyone for a black Harley Quinn?

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/041027/041027Scoops_tomCruise_hmed_1p.hmedium.jpg

Ok, Im done. :0

[The Chairman]

So this is our next Joker?

http://www.dvd-biz.hu/image_upload/big_2004_01_05_16_48_tom_cruise_nagy.jpg

:eek: :eek: :eek:

If you guys go back a few pages on this thread, you will see I suggested Crusie as a joke. It would be interested to see, in the film, Cruise as the Joker kill Katie Holmes.

[Keyser Soze]

In that pic, The Joker looks more like Cassell. But I think Bettany has more of a Joker look about him generally than Cassell does.

Though speaking of Joker pics, someone should find the cover art for "The Man Who Laughs". In that, The Joker is a dead ringer for Tim Roth...

[Detective Flass]

Oddly enough, for some reason the Long Halloween style Joker reminds me of Tim Roth. :joker:

[Reptile]

mark hamill all the way


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a295/kingtoad/jaypre2.jpg

[Joker831]

Yes Hamill!!!!!!!!!!! lol

http://www.freewebs.com/uwcompany2/The%20Joker

That picture looks so bad ass, i dont know why but it does. Maybe its the suit...but it looks great. I wouldnt min Hamill in the least bit, i dont care about age.

My top five is
1. Tim Roth
2. Vincent Cassel
3. Christopher Eccleston
4. Mark Hamill
5. Paul Bettany

[spidey-dude]

I think it should be Jason Lee, if anyone has seen dogma theyll know what i mean

[DOO BEE]

i'm not saying joker should be like brent; you know the unintentional funnys that brent comes out with, the ones that make you cringe, the joker should crack these type of jokes, and not care that he is being offensive. that is what gervais could bring to the script writing.

agreed, that would be a dream, with gervais having sick humor it fits the joker like a glove to a hand




by the way, have been to melbourne (stayed in st kilda), lovely city.

thank you, i love my city very much (but i love making it seem dark and twisted in my comics most my international fans think melbourne is sick lol!)

[mongo44]

I’ve been side lined the past couple of days with food poisoning. So I decided to pull out some of my old books to reread again after many years. Last night I was reading Arkham Asylum (I love Grant’s stories so much). For any that haven’t read it yet, READ IT. For those how have but not recently, reread it again. There is an unusual diagnosis of the Joker given that I always liked, “...we think he has a form of super sanity, that would be better suited for the turn of the new century.” In the monologue the doc discusses that some days he’s psychopathic and some days just enjoys being a comedian.

So, I go back to one of my first posts in this thread. Get a comedian! Get someone with a solid comedy background. Trust me when I tell you all, in performing there is a fine line between the two. Most of the greatest comedians in our history used comedy as an escape from the real world. Many came from homes that would deeply disturb us all. Every great comedian is using comedy to mask their dark side. Read some bios if you don’t believe me. Why do you think so many die tragically, end up drunks, or drug addicts? Because they have a deep hidden issue that they deny letting surface. They all are escaping their true selves.

That’s why so many can make the easy transfer from comedy to dark heavy dramatic roles. Jackie Gleason, Andy Griffith, Jim Carrey, Robin Williams, Tom Hanks, John Belushi, (just to name a few bigger names).

So, please be careful using the argument, “they are a good comedian, but...” It is actually laughable that argument. Now if you will excuse me my pencil is now sharpened, I need to go work out a problem...

[antmanx68]

I think they should at least give Hamill a shot at it. Give him a screen test and see if he can embody the character physically because God knows his Joker voice is classic at this point, its wishful thinking to hope... but then again i used to think it was wishful thinking for Bale to be Batman.

[Muze]

Hamill has got to be the worst physical cast i've seen for the joker yet. i'm not trying to be a dick but his features are just all wrong. there's a reason why people are casting Cassell, Eccleston, and Bettany. look at their faces and then look at hamill's. he doesn't have the chin, the nose, or the eyes. he's not tall and lanky. all he's got is the cartoon voice. whoopdeedoo.

as for Cassell being a frenchman, didn't what we recognize as the modern day clown originate in france?

[darknight7]

Eccleston and Cassel are my fave choices, as long as they both can shake their accents. But IMO, NOT WHO I WANT, but who i think (and may i add, wouldnt mind)...

i think it will be Bettany or Hulme...

--dk7

[Duneboy]

what about Jack Black? he might have to lose some weight for the role but I think he could pull it off.

[Detective Flass]

Hell no. I bet you're the guy who sent the fake scoop into Jett that he is a candidate.

[Mr Sensitive]

Jack Black could make a version of the Joker for the MTV Movie Awards.

If you know what I mean.

[Matis17]

what about Jack Black? he might have to lose some weight for the role but I think he could pull it off.And perhaps grow about a foot.

[sinewave]

Since there's been 148 pages worth of posts (at the time of this post), I have no idea if this has been suggested yet, but, how about Paul Reubens, aka PeeWee Herman, as the the next cinematic Joker? The dude's definitely got the physical resemblance down and I think he's just eccentric enough to handle the role of the next celluloid Clown Prince of Crime. Anybody else with me?

[pieeye]

no...:joker::down

[JLBats]

Since there's been 148 pages worth of posts (at the time of this post), I have no idea if this has been suggested yet, but, how about Paul Reubens, aka PeeWee Herman, as the the next cinematic Joker? The dude's definitely got the physical resemblance down and I think he's just eccentric enough to handle the role of the next celluloid Clown Prince of Crime. Anybody else with me?

I don't know if you heard, but Herman plays with his Pee Wee in public, so no.

[Orko Is King]

Oh, and look this must be where he finally went nuts. Anyone for a black Harley Quinn?

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/041027/041027Scoops_tomCruise_hmed_1p.hmedium.jpg

Ok, Im done. :0

Someone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE manip that!!!

[Two-Face]

Benicio Del Torro for Joker!!

[Muze]

Benicio Del Torro for Joker!!

why?

[Asr]

I think that if Jim Carrey hadn't already been Riddler, he'd be a shoo-in for Joker. He embodies everything the character needs to be. He's got the height, he's thin enough, and he's got enough insanity to pull off any crazy character. And he does great deranged facial expressions.

That said, IMO the best options are Chris Eccleston or Bradley Cooper.

[Brian2887]

I think it should be Jason Lee, if anyone has seen dogma theyll know what i mean

I've been pushing Lee for a long while.

[sinewave]

I don't know if you heard, but Herman plays with his Pee Wee in public, so no.

Old news, bro. And what does that have to do with him playing a derranged psychopath?

[sinewave]

no...:joker::down


OK, care to offer up some justification?

[antmanx68]

Since there's been 148 pages worth of posts (at the time of this post), I have no idea if this has been suggested yet, but, how about Paul Reubens, aka PeeWee Herman, as the the next cinematic Joker? The dude's definitely got the physical resemblance down and I think he's just eccentric enough to handle the role of the next celluloid Clown Prince of Crime. Anybody else with me?

I dont see him doing it for several reasons (and none of them have to do with indecent exposure). The biggest one being that he is kind of short, and older. Also im not thinking that the studio would want someone with the baggage of being Pee Wee Herman as the Joker (one of the most famous villains ever). Also although he can play wierd and outlandish I have never sensed anything really Jokerish about his performances... but he is talented.

[pieeye]

no justification needed...he's pee-wee, not The Joker...

[Tangled Web]

Jason Lee or Benecio Del Toro.

[pieeye]

Jason Lee or Benecio Del Toro....

...are lovers??? :confused:

[pieeye]

just jokin with ya buddy

[Octoberist]

Jason Lee..or Ryan reynolds...then again, they're bascially the same person!

Bencio Del Toro..good choice. Slightly underrated, don't you think? My heart still goes out to Crispin though. I can't help it.