Joker Casting Threads [merged-30] [Archive] - Page 18

pieeye

10-16-2005, 10:59 PM

I created a WORK IN PROGRESS (http://www.jokeronfilm.com/candidates1.html) page for my next Joker Manipulation based on Paul Bettany. I am offering a general presentation of the steps I take to create my manipulations , and I will be updating it as I make progress. You may remember the last one I did, if not, here it is...

http://www.jokeronfilm.com/jkedit2.jpg

Ill be doing the same kind of thing with this picture of Bettany...

http://www.jokeronfilm.com/paulwip2.jpg

Click the banner in my signature to go there. There is a link for the WIP page in the current news update (http://www.jokeronfilm.com/news1.html).

-pieeye
Proprietor/ Editor
http://www.jokeronfilm.com/jofbanner1.jpg (http://www.jokeronfilm.com/)

NOFX

10-17-2005, 12:00 AM

spdrknight

10-17-2005, 12:10 AM

pieeye, I've been waiting for your take on Bettany as the Joker. Can't wait to see the final product.

NulTide

10-17-2005, 01:16 AM

Wow, your a good artist. Unlike Rizpower.

drknight

10-17-2005, 05:33 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker10.jpg

Nivek

10-17-2005, 11:13 AM

fair enough. so does he look like an 'angry rugby player' now?

After what needed to be done to make him look identifiable as The Joker in my manip, I still think it's wise to look at the other people up for the role. He just doesn't have the look in my eyes, and my manip is how I feel what he should look like. You just make him pale, with light green hair and red lips, thats going to look lame beyond all definition. If Bettany plays the Joker, he'll need alot of work. You cheap it out, he'll look like a angry rugby player his friends made up in drag after he passed out.

pieeye

10-17-2005, 01:10 PM

drkniight,

Where did you find that smiling pick of Bettany?? There dont seem to be many of him smiling and I am interested in using that picture too.

-pieeye

drknight

10-17-2005, 02:44 PM

Here, be warned though he has a lot of stuble in it. Hopefully, yours looks better than my five min job.

http://www.paulbettany.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=216&pos=0

pieeye

10-17-2005, 03:23 PM

Thanks bud,

I may still be able to use it...Photoshop can do wonders especially with stubble.

-pieeye

NOFX

10-17-2005, 04:55 PM

Thanks bud,

I may still be able to use it...Photoshop can do wonders especially with stubble.

-pieeye
I WANT MY PAUL BETTANY AS THE JOKER MANIP NOW!!! :mad:

drknight

10-17-2005, 05:07 PM

Thanks bud,

I may still be able to use it...Photoshop can do wonders especially with stubble.

-pieeye

Yeah, I know, I use it too. I was able to get a weekend beard off a guy for manip I did on the super board. Look foward to your manip.

drknight

10-17-2005, 06:17 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker11.jpg

regwec

10-18-2005, 08:01 AM

Meh.

psychocheeseman

10-18-2005, 08:34 AM

Jake Busey.
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/hh/0000998/JB-headshot.jpg
'Nuff said.
Someone needs to manip that NOW.
Yeah he'd be good, he's definately got the smirk...but does he have the acting ability?

I'm still Thinking That Eccelstone would be the best choice...

antmanx68

10-18-2005, 01:16 PM

Jake Busey is creepy but not Jokerish. He doesnt seem to have a ton of range and is more of a bully-type villain. He also kind of has a southern accent that i havent heard him drop. The only thing he has going for him is the fact that he plays villains and has nasty big ass teeth, thats about it.

raybia

10-18-2005, 01:26 PM

Anything could happen but it looks like that in spite of all the speculation, the choices are narrowed down to Bettany and Hulme.

sasquatchs

10-18-2005, 02:41 PM

Pieeye, would be great if you could do something with this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/Jinete/Eccelston/Jude15.jpg

Still a three horse race between Eccleston, Bettany and Hulme for me

regwec

10-18-2005, 02:54 PM

That's a great pic, Sasquatch. :up:

rockstar632

10-18-2005, 04:58 PM

I think Dane Cook would be awsome if they want a younger Joker...he's nuts, and fully of energy and of course I'm almost positive he's insane so he'd be perfect.

Dark Knight

10-18-2005, 05:33 PM

Pieeye, would be great if you could do something with this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/Jinete/Eccelston/Jude15.jpg

Still a three horse race between Eccleston, Bettany and Hulme for me

i agree. i don't want Hulme though. It should be between Eccleston and Bettany IMO.

illmatikk

10-18-2005, 07:25 PM

I WANT MY PAUL BETTANY AS THE JOKER MANIP NOW!!! :mad:

heres mine....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/illmatikk/PB_Joker4.jpg

terry78

10-18-2005, 08:18 PM

Are we going for a young Joker or a more middle age Joker?

Dark Knight

10-19-2005, 12:58 AM

heres mine....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/illmatikk/PB_Joker4.jpg

Sweet!

antmanx68

10-19-2005, 10:33 AM

Dane Cook sucks. sorry just thinking out loud.

DorkyFresh

10-19-2005, 01:06 PM

i like Dane Cook....but i don't think he should be Joker.

NOFX

10-19-2005, 01:46 PM

heres mine....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/illmatikk/PB_Joker4.jpg
Very nice! :up:

Keyser Soze

10-19-2005, 02:01 PM

Very nice indeed. Only thing I don't like is the spiky hair. Other than that, I think we have our Joker. Now let's just see a few pics of him grinning. Can't wait for pieeye's manip.

spanish39

10-19-2005, 06:17 PM

top 5's?

Muze

10-19-2005, 06:49 PM

top 5's?

1. Paul Bettany
2. Christopher Eccleston
3. Vincent Cassell
4. Lachy Hulme
5. cloned Conrad Veidt

DarMar106

10-19-2005, 11:46 PM

all i know is Joker need to be both comical and frightning, and they got to really pull off that laugh

Brian2887

10-20-2005, 01:25 AM

top 5's?

5. Tim Roth (Rob Roy, The Musketeer, Planet of the Apes)
4. Will Arnett (Arrested Development)
3. Zach Braff (Scrubs, Garden State)
2. Paul Bettany (Gangster No. 1, A Knight's Tale)
1. Jason Lee (Dogma, My Name is Earl)

pieeye

10-20-2005, 01:39 AM

I have posted the first teaser image from my online comic "0801"

You can check it out right now by following the in the first News item on JOF.

-pieeye
Proprietor/ Editor
http://www.jokeronfilm.com/jofbanner1.jpg (http://www.jokeronfilm.com)

(http://editpost.php?do=editpost&p=6978513)

pieeye

10-20-2005, 01:43 AM

pieeye

10-20-2005, 01:46 AM

regwec

10-20-2005, 05:16 AM

Looking good.

craigaat

10-20-2005, 07:43 AM

Paul Bettany all the way! He's English too, so that may be in his favour

Keyser Soze

10-20-2005, 10:34 AM

Your comic has a very intresting premise, pieeye. Can't wait to see it.

Lightning54SC

10-20-2005, 10:54 AM

ok guys im a Superman man fan, turning fast to a Dark Knight fan, i love batman comics more the supes and like batmans ways more, sueprman was cool when i was a kid, but times change, but before i get off topic i like the idea of that guy as Joker, fits the part visually pretty well but all i have to say is Bettany who ever this guy is better not play the joker cuz he just plain sucks!!!!

regwec

10-20-2005, 11:06 AM

all i have to say is Bettany who ever this guy is better not play the joker cuz he just plain sucks!!!!
If you do not know who he is, then how can you know he "sucks"?

The Joker™

10-20-2005, 11:12 AM

Paul Bettany all the way! He's English too, so that may be in his favour

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b201/IdentityUnknown/Jokerpuppet.gif

Lightning54SC

10-20-2005, 12:44 PM

cuz i can tell he doesnt fit the part, its obvious

Mike_D

10-20-2005, 07:44 PM

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b201/IdentityUnknown/Jokerpuppet.gif

WTF, LOL. Thats creepy...

Edd Extraordinaire

10-21-2005, 12:52 AM

For a change, anyone ever see the Aviator? What about Adam Scott?

http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif

MrP3118

10-21-2005, 01:05 AM

I like bettany and glover.

MrP3118

10-21-2005, 01:06 AM

http://www.deboerio.net/cinema/photoacteur/crispinglover.jpghttp://www.hobbystar.com/ComicConTorontoV2/images/glover2.jpg But at looking at these pics I am still with Crispin Glover.

Edd Extraordinaire

10-21-2005, 01:07 AM

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/the_aviator/adam_scott/aviatorpred2.jpg

Here is a pic of Adam Scott.

Edd Extraordinaire

10-21-2005, 01:13 AM

Also, what about Jason Flemyng? He was in Snatch, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, etc.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/the_league_of_extraordinary_gentlemen/jason_flemyng/league.jpg

He reminds me a lot of Bettany.

Edd Extraordinaire

10-21-2005, 01:14 AM

http://www.atomikcircus-lefilm.com/IMAGES/pbataille.jpg

Edd Extraordinaire

10-21-2005, 01:17 AM

Also, I know this is out of nowhere, but if Bale ever, AND I MEAN EVER, had to be replaced, what do you think of Ryan Gosling? He sort of looks like Bale...but I'm not sure he has the chops.

http://film.onet.pl/_i/news/duze/r/ryan_gosling_3.jpg

Brian2887

10-21-2005, 01:17 AM

For a change, anyone ever see the Aviator? What about Adam Scott?

http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif

I love Adam Scott in a completely hetero way. I've followed his career since he did a few eps of Boy Meets World in the 90s. His best role, in my mind, is in Paul Rudd's underrated dark drama / comedy 2 Days.

That said, I don't know if he has the Joker in him. He's good for dry wit and such, but I can't see him going off the wall, Joker-style.

Katsuro

10-21-2005, 02:19 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Nivekian/bett2.jpg

no offense, but the top one looks much better. it's natural too, so they wont need prosthetics.

DOO BEE

10-21-2005, 03:34 AM

BETTANY WINS!!!!

he is the coolest man, gangtser no.1 shows him as a great joker see it now, its like englands pulp fiction, awsome

spanish39

10-21-2005, 04:45 PM

spanish39

10-21-2005, 04:52 PM

3 names that have recently come to mind......

......What do you think?

Michael Emerson(Saw, Broadway star)
http://img.theatermania.com/news/images/2422a.jpg

Robert Joy(Land of the Dead, Fallen, Dark Half)
http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/83/86/22m.jpg

Simon Baker(Land of the Dead, Ring II, Red Planet)
http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif

The Black Mask

10-21-2005, 04:52 PM

i am hoping bettany is the joker...

Nivek

10-21-2005, 05:04 PM

no offense, but the top one looks much better. it's natural too, so they wont need prosthetics.

The Jokers is not some reguler looking guy. I really just dont understand how some of you people can look at any illustrations of the Joker and think Bettany with pale skin, lipstick, and light green spikey hair looks anything like that character. Now subtle manips with Glover or Eccelson, I can understand and see a "Joker" look there, but Bettany?

terry78

10-21-2005, 05:50 PM

Are we just purposely casting actors not from the U.S., or are they just the ones that happen to have the best Joker look and attitude about them?

Muze

10-21-2005, 06:35 PM

Are we just purposely casting actors not from the U.S., or are they just the ones that happen to have the best Joker look and attitude about them?

for some reason i think theatre and acting is taken more seriously outside of the US. like you have to be more than just a pretty face or spastic to get roles outside of Los Angeles. i'm just looking for an actor with substnnce to them; beyond just looking weird as well *cough* willard *cough*.

Keyser Soze

10-21-2005, 06:59 PM

Spanish, from the "Old And Odd Choices" section, I'd say include Tim Roth, Benicio Del Toro and Crispin Glover, since those are the ones with more than one vote.

Other than that, i can see this new shortlist beginnning to take shape. Some interesting choices on there. Can't wait to see your final candidate list.

Keyser Soze

10-21-2005, 07:02 PM

I think that, at first glance, he seems a good fit for The Joker. And when you watch his films, you reailse he's a damn good actor too.

BT18

10-21-2005, 07:03 PM

Can't believe nobody has suggested Jackie Martling yet.

pwhitrow

10-21-2005, 07:45 PM

let me see..... do I support Eccleston as the Joker....hmmmmm..... What do you think ? ;)

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/1989/fury32dr.jpg

SUPERSEBAS

10-21-2005, 07:58 PM

FORGET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Crispin Glober is the man!!!!!!!!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a237/supersebas/jok.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a237/supersebas/joker.jpg

Muze

10-21-2005, 08:53 PM

Willard sucked. and i hate Crispin Glover's voice.

Nivek

10-21-2005, 09:15 PM

Thats your opinion, but alot of people think he'd be great in the role. I know I would.

Anjow1060

10-21-2005, 11:15 PM

Sorry, but you can't tell me Eccleston isn't the joker. This pic says it all.
http://usera.imagecave.com/anjow1060/Joker1.bmp.jpg

spanish39

10-21-2005, 11:37 PM

For some reason this guy Michael Emerson has this Joker look to him, maybe it's just the shape of his head or something lol. Anyway he wasn't that bad in Saw at all. That picture looks like an older Joker picture I have seen before except he is holding a gun near his head and has a huge grin. Just saying....

Muze

10-21-2005, 11:50 PM

Thats your opinion, but alot of people think he'd be great in the role. I know I would.

well, i hate to break it to you but a lot of people are stupid when it comes to casting. why do you think there's a thread where Michael Clarke Duncan is seriously considered for the role of Black Mask (simply because he's a big black man)? i want an actor; not just some nerd who naturally looks like the Joker. now Glover might be good enough to play the Joker on a WB Birds of Prey tv series. that might be a better avenue for him; not that i'd watch that show either. i just haven't seen enough range from the guy. he plays weird but nowhere near as artistically as Gary Oldman.

and here's something to think about Nivek. have you ever heard Crispin laugh? Eccleston's not even my first choice any longer and he has it all over this Glover loser.

Nivek

10-22-2005, 01:37 AM

well, i hate to break it to you but a lot of people are stupid when it comes to casting. why do you think there's a thread where Michael Clarke Duncan is seriously considered for the role of Black Mask (simply because he's a big black man)?

Yeah, Believe me I know about stupid casting choices. I've seen plenty of them here and there. I also know about people wanting an ACTOR playing a part, when I just want someone portray one of my favorite character and not be afraid to make him damn well look like him, and act like him as I remember reading in those comic book thingys these movies are based on. I dont understand WHY someone would cast Michael Clark Duncan as a character who average size and white. But then again, I dont understand what people see in Bettany in the same way.

i want an actor; not just some nerd who naturally looks like the Joker. now Glover might be good enough to play the Joker on a WB Birds of Prey tv series. that might be a better avenue for him; not that i'd watch that show either. i just haven't seen enough range from the guy. he plays weird but nowhere near as artistically as Gary Oldman.

and here's something to think about Nivek. have you ever heard Crispin laugh? Eccleston's not even my first choice any longer and he has it all over this Glover loser.

So, your just looking at Willard? Thats pretty damn short sighted. Rivers Edge, Whats Eating Gilbert Grape, Wild at Heart, People vs. Larry Flint, the guy even stands out in films like Friday the 13th part 4.

I may not have seen everything of Bettanys, but what I have seen hasn't shown me the range to play the Joker. That manic intensity. The guy who's try to trademark his own fish. The guy with the Jack in the Box that cuts peoples heads off. I can see Glover playing that kind of F'ed up, over the top, delusional evil clown. And yeah, I said it, cause thats what he is, a damn evil psychotic clown. Bettany doesn't have a clownish look to him. Evil? Yeah. But just not Joker "Peek a boo! *Blam*" Evil to me.

TheJuice

10-22-2005, 02:16 AM

Anybody but Glover

SilentType

10-22-2005, 02:51 AM

I see joker as someone who can be charming, and would be likeable if he wasn't utterly psychotic, but Glover seems like that weird kid in the back of the class who eats the paste and collects road kill.

spanish39

10-22-2005, 03:38 AM

Glover is not worthy enough for Joker. Like I have said in the past, he has been around for some 20 years and this would be his biggest role ever, that ridiculous espcially after being in back to the future and flynt. He is and always will be McFly to me lol.

I'm not getting into another pissing contest about Glover again, besides he will NOT be on the poll cause he is simply a cult favorite and people can not be so easily convinced to vote for him on those grounds as a cop-out for some.

Nivek
SilentType
Thejuice
Anjow1060

and anyone else yet to vote for their top 5 please do so if you really want.

DorkyFresh

10-22-2005, 03:54 AM

Glover has been typecasted as the crazy/insane/weird/wacked out guy...

...which is why he probably won't be chosen to play the Joker.

Katsuro

10-22-2005, 06:12 AM

My top 5 choices are probably.

1. Paul Bettany
2. Chris Eccelston
3. Lachy Hulme
4. Tim Roth
5. Crispin Glover

Bettany and Eccelston are really the only ones I want, and i'd very much like Glover to NOT be the Joker, it's just that I couldnt' think of anyone else so I just threw him out there. Heck, maybe the guy could surprise us all and actually be able to play an intimidating character.

Nivek

10-22-2005, 12:20 PM

Well, regardless of all this hoopla, I think these polls here are kinda funny, especially any "short lists". The movie still has a long way to pre-production, and Nolan and the Produsers can still cast whoever they want, regardless of any rumers who's in the Running from Jett's site.

And Glover is still mentioned as a fan favorite for the Joker at many other movie sites, including AICN and Dark Horizons. Just because people here have a hard one for a couple English actors, doesn't mean this is the last word. Just like they picked up on Bale being a fan favorite, the same rule could work for Glover. You never know until they actually start testing, and thats still almost a year away.

Besides, personally I'm more for seeing Eccelston play the Joker right now.

regwec

10-22-2005, 03:34 PM

FORGET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Crispin Glober is the man!!!!!!!!
*Dies of boredom*

Logan Howlett

10-22-2005, 03:43 PM

Mark Hamil already has the voice down to the T. And when i truely stoped and thought about it under that makeup he has the perfect face for it as well. the part he was born to play(move over skywalker your in the way)

spanish39

10-22-2005, 10:48 PM

These polls are purly for fun Nivek, participation is optional. Personaly I decided to take on a new one because I'm tired of the same old tired choices and there have been many more recent names that are great or better. Anyone here who thinks that the winner is guranteed to be Joker needs to take their meds. Hopefully in the end, through any upcoming news or statements or new offical names thrown in, we can come to a single person who remains in the running to be a "fan" favorite of the SHH! boards through everyone as a collective. A time killer really lol.

RANT:
With Glover, he is more of a cult favorite for Joker than a fan favorite. The fan favorite is obviously Eccelstone, because of one damn drawing that is probably no where near what Joker will actually look like in the new film. The cult favorite status means that baiscily he is an easy pick due to his size, face and character background. Most people have picked him or setteled on him beacuse he has been the only name to carry over on every poll and because his actual fan base is infact at cult status. Bale's former fan cult fan base could at least be shared with everyone like it is now beacuse all his work is mainly accaptable for most people where Glover's work is only accepted in samll circles. Would you take your family to see Willard? You probably wouldn't take them to see American Psycho either but at least you would be more entertained. That is just the difference between Bale being a fan favorite as Batman and Glover being a favorite for Joker. Bale had a half a chance of being the bat because his films are seriously toned or take themselves serious where Glovers are more off base. Everyone easily accpeted Bale for the bat but I gurantee that would not happen for Glover. To the point Bale is just better on so many more levels than Glover and is more acceptable to people in most roles. Glover is a cult icon and that my friends is just not acceptable for the character of the Joker. You need someone just as good if not better than Bale at acting to convince us this creepy freak of a clown known as Joker can exsist in a real world setting.

SO FAR......as of 10:04pm @ SAT 10/22/05......Out of 71 Votes Total......

IN CURRENT VOTED ORDER:
Chris Eccelstone 13
Paul Bettany 12
Lachy Hulme 7
Complete Unknown 3
Vincent Cassell 3
Will Arnett 3
Robert Carlyle 2
Jason Lee 2

ALL THE NAMES
Paul Sarsgaard 1, Seth Myers 1, Rhys Ifans 1, Nick Stahl 1, Michael Wincott 1, Steve Carrell 1, Ewen Bremner 1, Bill Mosley 1, Noah Taylor 1, Zach Braff 1, Toby Stephens, Michael McKidd, Jake Busy, Maichael Massee, Mathew Lillard, Alan Cummings, Ryan Gosling, Michael Emerson, Robert Joy, Simon Baker

THE OLD AND ODD CHOICES:
Tim Roth 6, Crispin Glover 4, Benicio Del Torro 2, Sean Penn 1, Adrien Brody 1, Johnny Depp 1, Jude Law 1, Steve Busemi, Ray Liotta, Marilyn Manson, Michael Keaton

PEOPLE WHO HAVE VOTED ALREADY:
Spanish39, ANTHONYNASTI, Muze, Joker.tm, illmatikk, thechubbysaint, Keyser Soze, regwec, Detective Flass, Two-Face, dogsgotlipstick, Ed_Extrodinaire, DavidTyler, The Only Woj, Dark Knight88, Pieeye, The Question, Henri DuCard, Muze, Brian2887, Katsuro

Spidey-Bat

10-22-2005, 11:29 PM

Sorry, but you can't tell me Eccleston isn't the joker. This pic says it all.
http://usera.imagecave.com/anjow1060/Joker1.bmp.jpg

Perfection :( (happy frown)

Muze

10-22-2005, 11:32 PM

thechubbysaint

10-23-2005, 12:03 AM

what about Hamill's face when he does the Joker voice? If his face looks all contorted and 'funny' looking, who would want that?

Johnny Drama

10-23-2005, 12:24 AM

I love how a few people desire Hamill as the Joker soley because he voiced him in TAS. You can deny it all you want, but you know if it wasn't for the series you would have never put Mark Hamill and The Joker in the same train of thought.

Glover is too introverted to play the Joker.

Farva

10-23-2005, 12:27 AM

I know Ill get killed for this, but i have my guns pointing back so watch out...

Im sure they'll get some british weird looking actor like many here are prediciting. But some of the wierdest looking people are rock stars (and no im not going for Jack Black). And along withtheir singing talents they often have interesting voices. So what about some drugged out, death skinny rock star? A shortlist...

Jack White
Trent Reznor
Marilyn Manson
Iggy Pop

When the bat news gets slower again, I just might make for fun a poll/thread for Rock star jokers and manips. But feel free to post any here.

Johnny Drama

10-23-2005, 03:12 AM

I wan't to see Iggy Pop as The Joker as much as I want to see my mom in Maxim. Dude, none of those guys can act. And don't say "Dude, have you seen the crow: city of angels?", Because I rest my case.

dogsgotlipstick

10-23-2005, 04:10 AM

keep checking out JOF. pieeye's first comic page will be up shortly, he jus needs to give it colour. It is based as eccleston as joker and is AWESOME!!! he has sent me an unfinshed black and white copy, which I will NOT publish!

Farva

10-23-2005, 06:56 AM

. Dude, none of those guys can act. .

I dont disagree with you. but re-read my post because that wasn't the point, its all just for fun.

DavidTyler

10-23-2005, 09:20 AM

Eccleston or Glover. I'll be happy either way. Of course, Glover would be my first choice. He was just amazingly creepy in 'River's Edge'. 'Willard' was an interesting turn but my point of reference was the earlier film.

Detective Flass

10-23-2005, 06:08 PM

HULME DAMMIT!

http://www.jokeronfilm.com/lachy2.jpg

ohmshalone

10-23-2005, 06:50 PM

this has probably been said before (and I'm aware it'll never happen), but cillian murphy looked like a perfect joker in that scene where he said "THE BAT-MAN!" but no so much after you've gotten used to his face.

Nivek

10-23-2005, 07:10 PM

Heres a quick manip of Hulme as the Joker, using my limited Photoshop skills. Getting rid of the beard as best as I can was probobly the hardest part.

I love the guys eyes and nose, would be alot of fun to work on his face into a Joker make-up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/Nivekian/lachyjoke.jpg

spanish39

10-23-2005, 09:03 PM

WE NEED MORE PEOPLE VOTING IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS WORK, COME ON GUYS WHO HAVEN'T VOTED YET, if you want of course.

http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL234/2069988/4014502/74011103.jpg

SO FAR......as of 8:11pm @ SUN 10/23/05......Out of 76 Votes Total......

IN CURRENT VOTED ORDER:
Chris Eccelstone 13
Paul Bettany 12
Lachy Hulme 7
Complete Unknown 3
Vincent Cassell 3
Will Arnett 3
Robert Carlyle 2
Jason Lee 2

ALL THE NAMES
Paul Sarsgaard 1, Seth Myers 1, Rhys Ifans 1, Nick Stahl 1, Michael Wincott 1, Steve Carrell 1, Ewen Bremner 1, Bill Mosley 1, Noah Taylor 1, Zach Braff 1, Toby Stephens, Michael McKidd, Jake Bussy, Maichael Massee, Mathew Lillard, Alan Cummings, Ryan Gosling, Michael Emerson, Robert Joy, Simon Baker, Craig Beirko, Bradley Cooper, Stuart Townsand, Sam Rockwell, Hugo Weaving, Andy Serkis, Timothy Olephant, Luke Goss, Vincent Gallo

THE OLD AND ODD CHOICES:
Tim Roth 6, Crispin Glover 4, Benicio Del Torro 2, Sean Penn 1, Adrien Brody 1, Johnny Depp 1, Jude Law 1, Steve Busemi, Ray Liotta, Marilyn Manson, Michael Keaton

PEOPLE WHO HAVE VOTED ALREADY:
Spanish39, ANTHONYNASTI, Muze, Joker.tm, illmatikk, thechubbysaint, Keyser Soze, regwec, Detective Flass, Two-Face, dogsgotlipstick, Ed_Extrodinaire, DavidTyler, The Only Woj, Dark Knight88, Pieeye, The Question, Henri DuCard, Muze, Brian2887, Katsuro

sasquatchs

10-23-2005, 09:37 PM

Decisions, decisions. Put me down for Bettany. Beats Eccelston by a whisker.

BatMan032886

10-23-2005, 09:42 PM

i voted a while back but did u get it? it was for eccleston.

DCW

10-23-2005, 09:42 PM

Put me down for Paul Bettany. :up:

StorminNorman

10-23-2005, 10:04 PM

Paul Bettany.

He was not my first choice (Alan Cummings was) but he has slowly grown on me, now my fav.

TheBat812

10-23-2005, 10:07 PM

HULME DAMMIT!

http://www.jokeronfilm.com/lachy2.jpg
wat happend to Roth?

DavidTyler

10-23-2005, 11:06 PM

SO FAR......as of 3:45pm @ FRI 10/21/05......

In Current Voted Order:
Chris Eccelstone 12
Paul Bettany 11
Lachy Hulme 6
Complete Unknown 3
Vincent Cassell 3
Will Arnett 3
Robert Carlyle 2
Jason Lee 2

The other names that have popped up"
Paul Sarsgaard 1, Seth Myers 1, Rhys Ifans 1, Nick Stahl 1, Michael Wincott 1, Steve Carrell 1, Ewen Bremner 1, Bill Mosley 1, Noah Taylor 1, Zach Braff 1, Toby Stephens, Michael McKidd, Jake Busy, Maichael Massee, Mathew Lillard, Alan Cummings, Ryan Gosling, Michael Emerson, Robert Joy, Simon Baker

he old and odd choices:
Tim Roth 5, Crispin Glover 3, Benicio Del Torro 2, Sean Penn 1, Adrien Brody 1, Johnny Depp 1, Jude Law 1, Steve Busemi, Ray Liotta, Marilyn Manson, Michael Keaton

PEOPLE WHO HAVE VOTED ALREADY:
Spanish39, ANTHONYNASTI, Muze, Joker.tm, illmatikk, thechubbysaint, Keyser Soze, regwec, Detective Flass, Two-Face, dogsgotlipstick, Ed_Extrodinaire, DavidTyler, The Only Woj, Dark Knight88, Pieeye, The Question, Henri DuCard, Muze, Brian2887

I'm sorry but I have no idea what statistics you're quoting. If you scroll back up to the top, you'll see that Glover tops the list by a respectable margin. He's at 80 percent while the next closest is at 50.

So, if this poll were to predict the casting, at this point in time it would be Glover. Not trying to get something heated going, just pointing out the poll at the top of this thread and how people actually voted.

As to Eccleston, I would vote for the manip in a heartbeat but seeing pictures of Eccleston without the photoshop retouch, I'd say he'd rank a bit lower than I had originally thought.

GREEN =w= DAY

10-23-2005, 11:13 PM

i was watching Sin City last nite. first time i've seen it since it came out in theaters. and personally, i think Benicio Del Toro would be a pretty cool Joker. he's definately got the acting down.

thorstone

10-24-2005, 12:08 AM

thechubbysaint

10-24-2005, 12:18 AM

I'm sorry but I have no idea what statistics you're quoting. If you scroll back up to the top, you'll see that Glover tops the list by a respectable margin. He's at 80 percent while the next closest is at 50.

So, if this poll were to predict the casting, at this point in time it would be Glover. Not trying to get something heated going, just pointing out the poll at the top of this thread and how people actually voted.

As to Eccleston, I would vote for the manip in a heartbeat but seeing pictures of Eccleston without the photoshop retouch, I'd say he'd rank a bit lower than I had originally thought.

Scroll back a few pages. He tried starting a new poll with a bunch of not named actors in the original poll.

StorminNorman

10-24-2005, 12:25 AM

I would imagine this Joker will evolve through the film. Perhaps at first he will paint his face or wear an expressive scary white mask; I believe I saw someone on this board with something similar to what I am talking about as an avatar.

Later along with the psycholdelic drugs of Scarecrow things get freaky.

according to BOF the joker will look like the Joker we all know and love, White Face, not white make up, Red Lips, Green Hair the whole deal.

DavidTyler

10-24-2005, 07:29 AM

Scroll back a few pages. He tried starting a new poll with a bunch of not named actors in the original poll.

I only voted in the original poll on this thread. If he had been trying to start a new poll within this thread, I didn't know it and did not vote in it. So, how did my name end up on his 'already voted' list?

I think he would have been better off starting a new thread because this is leading to too much confusion. I know people will groan at that suggestion but, barring a new official poll that auto tallies, his numbers basically mean nothing.

spanish39

10-24-2005, 02:03 PM

sasquatchs
BatMan032886
DCW
StorminNorman

YOU CAN PICK MORE THAN ONE ACTOR, YOUR TOP 5.

DavidTyler: This is what I accepted as your picks. I just figured this was how you were voting, for only these two.

10-10-2005, 11:41 am #4094
You know, after seeing a very well done manip of Christopher Eccleston as the Joker (sorry, you'll have to search for it - but it's here on this board), I'm inclined to make Crispin Glover my close second choice. Crispin's been my first choice since before Nolan started Begins but I've seen Eccleston in different projects and think he could turn a very respectable performance as a deformed psychopathic Killer.

spanish39

10-24-2005, 02:15 PM

Starting a new thread will only piss of the moderator and end up in merging or deletion. Towards the end I will probably start a new poll but for now since most people come here to talk about the Joker and since the thread has re-hashed itself a million times already I figured why not just keep it fun and fresh and have a new poll that stays up to date and current and can be added to when needed. It's really not confusing at all, all you have to do is list your top 5 and I tally votes, pretty easy. The numbers do mean something for us but nothing of importance as far as the winner actually being in the film of course lol. Like I siad before, if you don't want to play then don't. We are trying to have some guessing fun here and keep it interesting for the time being by narrowing down all these name s to a short list of people who we can all agree on. In the future if people piss and moan about the final choices not being enough, cause those people were not voting or not registered with SHH! yet, then we can tell them, "Oh well sorry you were not around, because this is what it has all come down to by elimnation over the last few months". This actually gives time to those not here yet or those who have yet to find the new poll. In the end it will probably come down to like 5 guys, but who knows how much our favoratisim will change in the next few months. Tyler you may want Hulme or Bettany for some strange reason cause you heard Eccelstone laugh wrong. Kinda like when you changed from Glover to Eccelstone, who knows, that just an example of why I am doing the poll this way.

Anyway......your top 5, lol?

sasquatchs

10-24-2005, 02:16 PM

Paul Bettany
Chris Eccelston
Lachy Hulme
Vincent Cassell
Somebody else

spanish39

10-24-2005, 02:17 PM

cool thanks sasquatchs. I will add it when I get a few more.

drknight

10-24-2005, 03:57 PM

Glover can do creepy just fine, but Joker has to be charismatic too. Glover has the charisma of dry toast.

GaryBall

10-24-2005, 05:05 PM

Benicio Del Toro would be the best choice for Joker in my opinion. He's crazy, yet charismatic, he's about Bale's height and physically imposing, he has a creepy smile and great facial expressions, and he has great Joker hair. He's also an amazing actor, and a much much much better actor than anyone else who is brought up on this board.

Here's some good pics of Benicio that show he'd make a good Joker:
http://http://www.beniciodeltoro.com/images/2002/gquk1.php
http://www.beniciodeltoro.com/images/2002/interview3.php
http://www.beniciodeltoro.com/images/2001/snatchpremiere6.php
http://www.beniciodeltoro.com/images/2001/dutch5.php

drknight

10-24-2005, 05:22 PM

Okay, Vincent Cassel can apparently do an American accent.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/weinstein/derailed/trailer/

Just get him a dialect coach for a little help (not that umcommon in movies).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/LoganTrent/joker7.jpg

Bettany is still my number one though.

Detective Flass

10-24-2005, 06:32 PM

what happend to Roth?

Tim Roth for Black Mask :up:

Lachy Hulme for The Joker :up:

ghost113

10-24-2005, 06:34 PM

My top choices
Jim carrey
Jason lee
Paul bettany
and lauchy hulme

PS: this is not in any kind of order

spanish39

10-24-2005, 09:13 PM

SO FAR......as of 8:14pm @ MON 10/24/05......Out of 85 Votes Total......

IN CURRENT VOTED ORDER:
Chris Eccelstone 14
Paul Bettany 14
Lachy Hulme 9
Vincent Cassell 4
Complete Unknown 4
Will Arnett 3
Jason Lee 3
Robert Carlyle 2

ALL THE NAMES
Paul Sarsgaard 1, Seth Myers 1, Rhys Ifans 1, Nick Stahl 1, Michael Wincott 1, Steve Carrell 1, Ewen Bremner 1, Bill Mosley 1, Noah Taylor 1, Zach Braff 1, Toby Stephens, Michael McKidd, Jake Bussy, Maichael Massee, Mathew Lillard, Alan Cummings, Ryan Gosling, Michael Emerson, Robert Joy, Simon Baker, Craig Beirko, Bradley Cooper, Stuart Townsand, Sam Rockwell, Hugo Weaving, Andy Serkis, Timothy Olephant, Luke Goss, Vincent Gallo

THE OLD AND ODD CHOICES:
Tim Roth 6, Crispin Glover 4, Benicio Del Torro 2, Sean Penn 1, Adrien Brody 1, Johnny Depp 1, Jude Law 1, Jim Carrey 1, Steve Busemi, Ray Liotta, Marilyn Manson, Michael Keaton

PEOPLE WHO HAVE VOTED ALREADY:
Spanish39, ANTHONYNASTI, Muze, Joker.tm, illmatikk, thechubbysaint, Keyser Soze, regwec, Detective Flass, Two-Face, dogsgotlipstick, Ed_Extrodinaire, DavidTyler, The Only Woj, Dark Knight88, Pieeye, The Question, Henri DuCard, Muze, Brian2887, Katsuro, sasquatchs, ghost113

Keyser Soze

10-25-2005, 08:33 AM

Tim Roth for Black Mask :up:

Lachy Hulme for The Joker :up:

Tim Roth for Black Mask? Nah. I'd say he'd be much better as The Joker, though if not him, I'm going for Paul Bettany.

My pick for Black Mask is Tony Todd. Or maybe Michael Wincott.

Brian2887

10-25-2005, 09:30 AM

Not that this is a Black Mask thread, but...

Peter Sarsgaard for Black Mask.

http://www.mtv.com/movies/photos/s/skeleton_key_050107/flip-j.jpg

But, to get us back on topic, Jason Lee for Joker.

http://www.dogma-movie.com/pics/bar/images/gunhappy.jpg

aka_sammym

10-25-2005, 10:42 AM

I really don't agree with ANY of the choices in the poll.

I think the ideal choice for the casting of the joker would be Walton Goggins.
Or Shane Vendrell from The Shield.

The guy is a excellent actor and he definatly looks psycho enough to play a young Joker.

His rugged looks would fit in perfectly with the new style of the new Batman movies.

I really think its a no contest

The ' WALTON GOOGINS AS THE JOKER ' campaign starts now

ghost113

10-25-2005, 05:22 PM

No offense but who the HELL is Walter Googins?

StorminNorman

10-25-2005, 07:29 PM

1. Paul Bettany
2. Alan Cummings
3. Lachy Hulme
4. Chris Ecclestone
5. Just for the heck of it - Will Friedle

Detective Flass

10-25-2005, 07:55 PM

lol....

Googins....

Keyser Soze

10-25-2005, 08:51 PM

Walt Goggins is, quite simply, a phenomenal actor. Hardly anyone has heard of him, and I think that's a shame, as he's a really underrated talent. He'd be my dream pick to play Bullseye. But I don't see him as The Joker.

StorminNorman

10-25-2005, 10:06 PM

Farva

10-26-2005, 02:42 AM

No offense but who the HELL is Walter Googins?

http://www.angelfire.com/film/waltpics/shield7.html

http://www.angelfire.com/film/waltpics/shield10.html

It's actually walton googins. He has a huge set of teeth that when he smiles is very eerie and I must admit, Joker like. I'm not sure he could pull it off, or even if he'd ever be considered.

But I think some Walt Googins manips are in order!

Farva

10-26-2005, 02:45 AM

http://www.angelfire.com/film/waltpics/shield14.html

Check out the middle picture of Walt on this link, cracking a BIG smile.

Farva

10-26-2005, 02:46 AM

Here you go.http://www.angelfire.com/film/waltpics/1015.jpg

craigaat

10-26-2005, 07:58 AM

I still think George McFly is a bad choice, does he even have any real acting skills?

Keyser Soze

10-26-2005, 08:13 AM

http://www.angelfire.com/film/waltpics/shield7.html

http://www.angelfire.com/film/waltpics/shield10.html

It's actually walton googins. He has a huge set of teeth that when he smiles is very eerie and I must admit, Joker like. I'm not sure he could pull it off, or even if he'd ever be considered.

But I think some Walt Googins manips are in order!

http://www.angelfire.com/film/waltpics/88.jpg

That's actually a pretty cool pic. But I see Walt Goggins as a Southern redneck bad-ass rather than a criminal mastermind. Then again, he's an ACTOR, so maybe he could surprise me. He'd have to hide the Southern accent though.

Nivek

10-26-2005, 02:17 PM

But I see Walt Goggins as a Southern redneck bad-ass rather than a criminal mastermind. Then again, he's an ACTOR, so maybe he could surprise me. He'd have to hide the Southern accent though.

Well, people want Bettany and he's got a thicker English accent than Goggins southern one. Come to think of it, I hardly even notice his accent on the Shield.

But between this guy and Bettany, I'll go Goggins.

regwec

10-26-2005, 04:24 PM

Well, people want Bettany and he's got a thicker English accent than Goggins southern one. Come to think of it, I hardly even notice his accent on the Shield.

But between this guy and Bettany, I'll go Goggins.
It what way do you mean that Bettany's English accent is "thick"? He merely has an English accent. To say that his accent is "thick" because he is English seems to imply that you think there is a some sort of 'standard accent', and that the accents that differ from it the most are "thicker". This is not the case. Everybody has an accent of one type or another.

Nivek

10-26-2005, 05:56 PM

antmanx68

10-26-2005, 06:01 PM

hell no on googins... and not because of any accent, he's just doesnt look right for it at all (especially compared to most other names presented in this thread.)

Keyser Soze

10-26-2005, 06:04 PM

I think that, apart from the slightly-receding hairline (I call it Nicholsonesque) he looks the part. But in terms of acting style, he just isn't a fit for The Joker.

Nivek

10-26-2005, 06:08 PM

And what acting style is that? Im curious about this, what makes an actor especially suited to play the Joker? Jack Nicholson had a couple over the top parts, like The Shining and One Flew Over The Cookoos Nest. I havn't really heard anyone mention specific films that seem to show a Joker flair for some of these names.

Or people just blow them off, like anytime someone mentions Glover and Rivers Edge, people just think of Back to the Future, which isn't very fair.

Its like if people interested in who this guy is playing Batman mentioned Bale in American Psycho without mentioning Equilibrium as far as comparison for how he would play Batman.

Keyser Soze

10-26-2005, 06:16 PM

Well it's down to Walt Goggins himself. He's very masculine, and has a raw, rugged feel about him. But The Joker is often portrayed as highly theatrical, bordering on the effette. It's just the case of someone having to act way outside what they do best to play the part. It would be the equivalent of Robert DeNiro getting cast as The Joker in 1989.

Nivek

10-26-2005, 06:23 PM

Nah, Nicholson had that part nailed down back then. The only other candidate I remember off hand was Tim Curry. Too bad there isn't a younger version of him running around now...

ghost113

10-26-2005, 06:28 PM

The joker is a metrosexual psychotic clown who likes attention, sometimes he'll go after someone personally most of the time it doesn't matter if you piss him off he'll kick your ass or he'll kill you

The Chairman

10-26-2005, 07:11 PM

Nah, Nicholson had that part nailed down back then. The only other candidate I remember off hand was Tim Curry. Too bad there isn't a younger version of him running around now...

Robin Williams was originally considered for The Joker. There was a whole controversy that Williams was used as bait to get Nicholson to take the role. Jack was the best choice, but Williams and Curry would've been great. Keaton also auditioned for the role and was a favorite. Don't ever remember Robert DeNiro being mentioned for the role.

ghost113

10-26-2005, 07:14 PM

How old are you guys to be able to remember that?

Keyser Soze

10-26-2005, 07:24 PM

Nah, Nicholson had that part nailed down back then. The only other candidate I remember off hand was Tim Curry. Too bad there isn't a younger version of him running around now...

I think you misread me. What I meant was that, Robert DeNiro is a great actor, but just wasn't a fit for the part of The Joker like Jack Nicholson was.

ghost113

10-26-2005, 07:28 PM

I have a question, why do we do this to our selves why can't we just want for the movie to come out?

titan101

10-26-2005, 07:45 PM

I have a question, why do we do this to our selves why can't we just want for the movie to come out?because us fans lack PATIENCE.:mad:

Muze

10-26-2005, 08:42 PM

Nivek

10-26-2005, 08:45 PM

He's American?

Nivek

10-26-2005, 08:48 PM

Keyser Soze

10-27-2005, 06:21 AM

so then...how would he be a better choice than Chris Eccleston, Lachy Hulme, or Paul Bettany? :confused:

He wouldn't. I was one of the people AGAINST Walt Goggins. God, I'm even confusing myself now.

dogsgotlipstick

10-27-2005, 01:06 PM

i was all over this film when it came out in 1989. I dont remember hearing anything about Robin Williams being up for the role of the Joker. Unless your talking about the pre-Burton/Hamm Bill Murray Batman project, which sounded incredibly lame.

I take it you thought the performances of Bale and Oldman were "thick" then, and that they didn't do a good job because they were not american?

Nivek

10-27-2005, 01:27 PM

dogsgotlipstick

10-27-2005, 01:38 PM

Nah, I dont have a problem with them at all. And they have notable exsperience at playing Americans.

I just dont like most of the main people mentioned for the part have been predominantly English. There are many actors that are close to a Bettany's look that are Americans, but are not given the same regard.

BTW- you quoted me on the wrong topic, Dog...

yeah. couldn't be bothered too scroll back.

the reason so many brits have parts is because:

as the film is mainly filmed in britain the actors guild requires a certain percentage of people of british origin to appear in it.
the same would apply for americans in america

also the brits in this film have (by all accounts) done a better job of bringing the (real) batman and his world to life than your compatriots; so sit back and enjoy what us brits have got to offer!:D :D

look, in all seriousness i couldn't care less who does the job as long as they do it well!

Brian2887

10-27-2005, 01:56 PM

I'm still standing by Jason Lee, but I just ordered Gangster No. 1 from blockbuster.com. Once it arrives, my opinion my swing toward my #2, Bettany.

regwec

10-27-2005, 03:25 PM

I mean he has a very English accent, and I've never heard the guy do a middle american accent. Yes, here in the states, the accent varies and gets thick dependong on where your at, BUT theres a generic tone and timber that some actors from overseas have a hard time matching.

And when you think about it, the Joker doesn't have ANY distingushable accent anyway. I want an actor who can have a little quirkyness to his voice, but no "Aye Govena', Joweka hea" accents or anything distinctive like that.
Everybody has a damn accent. It makes no sense to say that Bettany has a "very" English accent, anymore than it makes sense to say that a tree is "very treeish" or that a dog is "very doggish". Bettany is English, so yep, he has an English accent. All Americans have American accents, of one type or another, but you would not say that someone has a "very American accent", would you?

The only way you can speak without "an accent" is by using sign language.

Nivek

10-27-2005, 04:50 PM

But the point is though, the Joker is American. I personally never could pictured the character speaking with any accent, as do many other Joker fans. I dont know what the issue is about this.

regwec

10-27-2005, 04:52 PM

But the point is though, the Joker is American. I personally never could pictured the character speaking with any accent, as do many other Joker fans. I dont know what the issue is about this.
Why couldn't you imagine him with an American accent, given that you know him to be an American?

Nivek

10-27-2005, 07:49 PM

Why couldn't you imagine him with an American accent, given that you know him to be an American?

Because he shouldn't have any Distinguishable Accent. Mark Hamills take has no accent, Jack Nicholson had no accent, that what Im saying.

Muze

10-27-2005, 07:53 PM

Muze

10-27-2005, 07:57 PM

Nah, I dont have a problem with them at all. And they have notable exsperience at playing Americans.

I just dont like most of the main people mentioned for the part have been predominantly English. There are many actors that share a closer resemblance to a Joker look than Bettany that are Americans, but are not given the same regard. I dont understand why more Americans are not being mentioned. Or even unknown actors who could slam dunk the role better than these established foreign actors that are forced down our throats.

i've yet to see an american with a "closer resemblance" who could also act their way out of a paper bag. and, it used to be, that people were going on and on about how Vince Cassell can't do an american accent. well guess what? he's doing one as we speak. guess you can't judge a book by it's cover.

Katsuro

10-27-2005, 08:27 PM

Hiding an accent is not as hard as you might think. Christian Bale has an accent, and yet he hid it perfectly through the entire movie, and in all related interviews (he said he didn't want to confuse people by making them think Bruce Wayne was gonna be played by a Welshman). If Bettany can soften or completely hide his accent, then by all means give him the role.

Everybody has a damn accent. It makes no sense to say that Bettany has a "very" English accent, anymore than it makes sense to say that a tree is "very treeish" or that a dog is "very doggish". Bettany is English, so yep, he has an English accent. All Americans have American accents, of one type or another, but you would not say that someone has a "very American accent", would you?

not true at all. There are varying levels of thickness in an accent, and if you dont realize that... you must not have met very many people from outside your own country. Want an example? Take my neighbor, she's austrailian, but has lived here for a very long time. She has an almost indistinguishable austrailian accent. However, a while back I met her brother, who grew up in Australia most his life. His accent was THICK. I could sometimes barely understand him. Now see, different people can have varying levels of thickness of accent.

Keyser Soze

10-28-2005, 08:28 AM

Because he shouldn't have any Distinguishable Accent. Mark Hamills take has no accent, Jack Nicholson had no accent, that what Im saying.

Isn't Mark Hamill's Joker quasi-English?

DorkyFresh

10-28-2005, 09:55 AM

if this guy weren't older......he would've been the PERFECT Joker...

http://www.celebwelove.com/John_Turturro/John_Turturro.jpg

John Tuturro

Nivek

10-28-2005, 10:23 AM

Isn't Mark Hamill's Joker quasi-English?

Nope, just has a weez to his voice, no accent.

Two-Face

10-28-2005, 10:58 AM

Does it matter what actor's nationally is? long as they play great villain, Bale is welsh but played great as Batman/Bruce, Oldman is English but again played great Gordon like Y1 Gordon and he looks like Y1 Gordon.

dogsgotlipstick

10-28-2005, 11:06 AM

Isn't Mark Hamill's Joker quasi-English?

i agree..

DorkyFresh

10-28-2005, 11:18 AM

I dunno if this guy's been mentioned yet but I really think Jake Busey would make a great Joker...

http://www.nndb.com/people/258/000043129/headshots_jake_busey.jpg

Nosinik

10-28-2005, 07:23 PM

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/Nosinik/CrispinJoker.jpgCrispin

regwec

10-29-2005, 06:46 AM

Because he shouldn't have any Distinguishable Accent. Mark Hamills take has no accent, Jack Nicholson had no accent, that what Im saying.
Yes. They. Do. Everyone on the face of the planet has an accent of one type or another. You have fallen into the same trap as lots of Americans, of thinking that your own accent is somehow "right", or "normal", or that you simply "have no accent"; and that the more different someone else's accent is from your own, the "thicker" or "stronger" it is. This is clearly silly. It is equivalent to claiming that "Chinese people have a really strong language", but that "Americans don't speak with a language".

Christian Bale has an accent
So do you, so does everyone on the planet with the ability to speak.

not true at all. There are varying levels of thickness in an accent, and if you dont realize that... you must not have met very many people from outside your own country. Want an example? Take my neighbor, she's austrailian, but has lived here for a very long time. She has an almost indistinguishable austrailian accent. However, a while back I met her brother, who grew up in Australia most his life. His accent was THICK. I could sometimes barely understand him. Now see, different people can have varying levels of thickness of accent.
And here we go again: the incestuous American attitude that the way you speak is "normal", and that the way someone else speaks is somehow incorrectly accented. What you are saying is that the more difference there is between someone else's accent and your accent, the stronger/thicker their accent is. Have you never realised that, to your neighbour's brother, it is you who has the thick accent?

This is all a matter of terminology, but it is important. It is fine to say that "Paul Bettany has an English accent that is easily differentiated from American", but it is patronising and offensive to claim that "Bettany has a thick English accent", or simply that "Bettany speaks with an accent", as this implies that there is a single correct accent, and that others are somehow deviations.

Katsuro

10-29-2005, 07:12 AM

You know what? Who really gives a damn. All this political correctness crap is just going too far. Now I can't call a person's accent thick, i have to say "he has an accent that is easily differentiated from an American" No, he has a thick accent, who cares. If I went to Great Britain and was told I have a strong American accent, i'd say "yes, i guess i do!" Or if i went to Germany and tried to speak the little German i know, I accept the fact that i'd have a huge American accent. The point is, all accents are relative. When you say an accent is "thick", it's a relative term, so you're comparing it to other people's accents.

So can we drop all this political correct crap? I dont even know what the hell the point of this whole debate it. All that matters is that Bettany will make a great Joker, especially if he can hide his accent... i'm sorry, i mean if he can make his voice less easiily differentiated from an American. There? how's that?

regwec

10-29-2005, 10:13 AM

When you say an accent is "thick", it's a relative term, so you're comparing it to other people's accents.
Yes, you're getting it now. The problem here is probably just that there is an assumption that all board members are American. It would make reasonable sense for two Americans to say to one another that (for example) Jaques Chirac "has a (foreign) accent", because they are both comparing it with the same domestic dialect. But since many of us are from all over the world, it really doesn't make much sense to make that kind of claim about anyone.

I'm sure no one is intending to cause offence here, but it can be pretty irritating to have your accent described as "thick", simply because it is not American.

Farva

10-29-2005, 11:44 PM

And here we go again: the incestuous American attitude that the way you speak is "normal", and that the way someone else speaks is somehow incorrectly accented.

Easy killer. I understand not everyone here is American, but not every American thinks that everyone else has the accent.

Please don't be foolish enough to lump every American in your rant on accents.

Sometimes people forget that their own dialect has an accent. People do that in every culture, race, creed, and country. Its human, not American.

Anyways, back to the point, I could care less what nationality or "accent" the new joker has. All i care is that he can act, is freaky looking, and has a nasty laugh. Simple enough.

There are better things to argue about than accents.

Mr Sensitive

10-30-2005, 09:10 AM

Easy killer. I understand not everyone here is American, but not every American thinks that everyone else has the accent.

Please don't be foolish enough to lump every American in your rant on accents.

Sometimes people forget that their own dialect has an accent. People do that in every culture, race, creed, and country. Its human, not American.

But that's why regwec has said "lots of Americans".

It doesn't imply "every American", which should be the wrong version of his rant.

SUPERSEBAS

10-30-2005, 11:57 AM

Nolan says That the Joker is not going ti have green hair! to me that is a good choise! to made a more realistic version of the joker, I put joker in black suit and dark violet shirt or suit and tie in dark violet and black shirt, the face must be white and hair and lips black! Something with the spirit of Marilyn Manson

SUPERSEBAS

10-30-2005, 11:59 AM

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a237/supersebas/joke.jpg

and Harley Quinn

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a237/supersebas/har.jpg

I think this two can made a good couple

Postman

10-30-2005, 12:18 PM

BatMan032886

10-30-2005, 12:28 PM

Keyser Soze

10-30-2005, 12:34 PM

He never said that. We've had a rumour on BOF stating that The Joker would be pretty close visualy to what we are used to, and in terms of personality, would be straight from the comics.

Cosmic

10-30-2005, 12:37 PM

I would look for Guy Pearce as the Joker. They like working with actors they've used in past films. If it's true that he was considered for the title role, I'd think that at some point along the way, they must have discussed using him in some other role after choosing Bale. He's always in great shape, so that's one less thing to worry about, if that's how they want to portray the character. He's got plenty of talent, experience and versatility. I have no doubt he could pull off a very dark, twisted and threatening Joker.

He has an instantly recognizable face, and he's an international sex symbol who could draw the interest of many moviegoers who have little or no interest in the character, a la Jackman with X-Men. And while he has enough talent and "star power" to take on the role, he won't outshine the rest of the cast, which is important. I would definitely make him a top candidate for the Joker, if not the first choice.

SUPERSEBAS

10-30-2005, 01:41 PM

CRISPIN GLOVER IS NOT THE JOKER. People get past the appearance besides his look he offers nothing for the role of Joker. Glover has absolutely 0 flamboyance in him and there is no possible way he could do the laugh which is key for anyone to play joker. okay okay he can play creepy and he look like the Joker that's 2 out of 4 things required to play him, but he does not have the other two aforementioned characteristics to play him.

And I cant see other than him to play joker!!!!!!!!!! just look at the manip that I post! and I remeber him his tremble and crazy voice, with his eyes firmly on the other person! a mixture of angry and frustration!
that is a very good side for the character

regwec

10-30-2005, 02:41 PM

And I cant see other than him to play joker!!!!!!!!!!
Is that a lie, or just a symptom of a tragic lack of imagination?

SUPERSEBAS

10-30-2005, 04:39 PM

Is that a lie, or just a symptom of a tragic lack of imagination?

nothing of that two options taht you what to give me! is just my most deep wish for a new version of joker!

mister Lennon

10-31-2005, 03:32 PM

I thin that Kevin Bacon would be a great joker. He is a great actor and he has the look, also he has played great bad guys in his last movies.

lionhart

10-31-2005, 03:41 PM

Gold Samurai

10-31-2005, 04:45 PM

I thin that Kevin Bacon would be a great joker. He is a great actor and he has the look, also he has played great bad guys in his last movies.

eh in a recent tonight show appearance he looked more williem dafoe to me. If Spiderman 1 had a younger version of Norman that is

SINISTER SMILE

11-01-2005, 03:08 AM

i dont know about u guys but the trailers for derailed or whatever flashed a quick image of vincent cassel smiling..and after that i was sold hes getting into bigger AMERICAN films so theyd best nab a fairly new guy..if they want a real dedicated actor..this is probably the type of role this guy has been waiting for his whole life..being in the batman franchise would put him were he wants to be successfully and financially..and hes got alot of emotion that smile made my heart pound..with some makeup some green hair some pimp ass suits with subtle hints to jokers classic colors and u have a perfect joker..id like jokeronfilm.com do a real good ecclecson style manip..please give me some feedback :joker:

drknight

11-01-2005, 03:30 AM

Edit

GREEN =w= DAY

11-01-2005, 04:54 AM

today on the Sci-Fi Channel they passed a remake or something of The Shining. not as good as the original one with Jack Nicholson imo, but the actor that played Jack (Steven Weber) was awesome in it. he nailed the part playing a crazy, demented person and had the look also. i think he would be great for the Joker. only problem is, he's 44 years old. i think he'd be too old for the part.

RiddleMeThis?

11-01-2005, 08:59 AM

Edward Norton. Not my favorite choice but I've seen him play semi-psycho (Death to Smoochy, The Heist, Italian Job) With some good make-up and proper lighting, he could unleash the maniac within.

Nivek

11-01-2005, 10:56 AM

... have you ever even read a Batman comic? Your opinions about Joker and Robin really share no agreement at all with the comic history.

Joker is flamboyant, not just enraged and seething all the time. And he'll have green hair.
And Robin is not a goth.

Well, it's not just Superseabas that needs to be asked that question. I've heard alot of comments about the Joker in this very thread that have left me scratching my head wondering if people even know the character, or .

When some people bring up actors for the Joker role, and comment that he's "handsome" or has "an Athletic build", it confuses the hell out of me. Because thats not the Joker I see on the page. The guy has a big nose, long chin, narrow face, and a large, almost unhuman mouth. He does not look like an underwear model, the guy looks insane. All the time.

For the most part, Im not even that interested in talking anymore about any of these people who are up for the role, because nothing at this point is definate. Alot of this wish casting just comes off as Jett or some shmuck states Nolan is looking at a certain actor for the Joker role, like Sean Penn, then over the next 2 weeks the boards covered with manips and people declaring that he's perfect for the role.

But for the most part, Nolan is busy doing another film, wake me up and tell me when he's done with that, because then I'll look into these casting quotes seriously. Because right now, I feel 95% of these names are brought in by fans.

DA Harvey Dent

11-01-2005, 02:00 PM

He can pull off the weird joker look without a doubt. But the acting skills are highly questionable. What do you think?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=249306&d=1130822462

KingOfDreams

11-01-2005, 02:01 PM

He does have the look but as you said, his acting skills are questionable. He might be a good Arcade (in X-Men) as well.

raybia

11-01-2005, 02:02 PM

:eek: Oh my!

Carrot top is buff and can whup your a@@!

But No to the Joker.

JamalYIgle

11-01-2005, 02:02 PM

He can pull off the weird joker look without a doubt. But the acting skills are highly questionable. What do you think?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=249306&d=1130822462

horrible actor, and i never thought i'd ever say this about carrot top until i saw him on ToughCrowd a while back... WAY TOO BUFF to play the Joker

KingOfDreams

11-01-2005, 02:13 PM

Carrot Top is not the kind of person who should be buff. He just exudes tall and gangly.

regwec

11-01-2005, 02:31 PM

This is getting silly. Sean Connery for The Joker! Arnold Schwarzenegger for The Joker! Danny Devito for The Joker! O.J. Simpson for The Joker!

Kritish

11-01-2005, 02:36 PM

Lets have a Saddam Hussien for the joker while were at it noobs.

SINISTER SMILE

11-01-2005, 03:12 PM

if he could act his balls off then id say yes..remember nolan wants an actual physical match to batman

greyJester

11-01-2005, 03:23 PM

Jesus, I knew he'd been workin' out. But dear holy savior, he's bigger than most of the guys on my wrestlin' team. Wait, c'mon, how about no. He should never grace the silver screen at all, and if so NOT as the Joker.

Brodie_Bruce

11-01-2005, 03:35 PM

vincet casselhttp://www.celebrities.pl/vincent_cassel/vincent6.jpg

i konw many have mentioned him and before i had little faith in him, but recently i saw him in Elizabeth and he was very good. although my first choices are hulme and bettany hed be good.

NOFX

11-01-2005, 03:46 PM

This thread is sooooo Redundant:o

The Chairman

11-01-2005, 05:08 PM

This is getting silly. Sean Connery for The Joker! Arnold Schwarzenegger for The Joker! Danny Devito for The Joker! O.J. Simpson for The Joker!

Dakota Fanning for The Joker!

LOL. Great post regwec.

BlackKnight32

11-01-2005, 05:10 PM

Please God, tell me this is some sick joke with someone actually considering Carrot Top for the role of the Joker.

Spidey-Bat

11-01-2005, 05:12 PM

O.J. Simpson for The Joker!

He does fulfill the double homicide requirement.

DeGenerate10

11-01-2005, 05:24 PM

Mini-me For The Joker!#@$_#*&(#$^*%

antmanx68

11-01-2005, 05:26 PM

not funny (but hahahaha anyways).

kooguy911

11-01-2005, 05:36 PM

This is getting silly. Sean Connery for The Joker! Arnold Schwarzenegger for The Joker! Danny Devito for The Joker! O.J. Simpson for The Joker!

its funny, people said the same thing about micheal keaton for batman

although i seriously doubt he will be joker it would be a pretty weird movie if he did

Katsuro

11-01-2005, 05:36 PM

seriously... enough with the idiotic casting choices. Every day a new choice pops up that if Nolan actually went with, he would be lynched. Michael Keaton? Carrot Top? Will it ever end?

kooguy911

11-01-2005, 05:41 PM

seriously... enough with the idiotic casting choices. Every day a new choice pops up that if Nolan actually went with, he would be lynched. Michael Keaton? Carrot Top? Will it ever end?

um, i guess u didnt understand what i wrote

i ment that people said and made fun of keaton back when he was casted to play batman in batman 89. I DID NOT mean that i wanted him to play joker

The Only Woj

11-01-2005, 07:04 PM

He does fulfill the double homicide requirement.

HAHA!

Spider-Kurt

11-01-2005, 07:16 PM

Dang! Carrot Top looks like he could play Bane!!!

SUPERSEBAS

11-01-2005, 07:16 PM

Puaaaaaaaajjjjjjjjj!!!!!!!!!!!!

GoldGoblin

11-01-2005, 07:28 PM

Ok who photoshop Carrot top's head onto my body.

ApocolypseNow

11-01-2005, 07:30 PM

why is Paul Bettany such a popular choice? Maybe its because ive never seen him in anything other than a knights tale and wimbeldon, but he is kinda goofy. Not psychotic goofy, but just goofy. Plus he looks really young. I really cant imagine anyone other than jack nicholson as the joker, although thats not gonna happen.

Boom

11-01-2005, 08:04 PM

This is probably the worst suggestion for The Joker I've ever heard of. Even moreso than Will Ferrell.

Postman

11-01-2005, 11:02 PM

SINISTER SMILE

11-02-2005, 12:15 AM

Vincent Casselle:O :O :O

Katsuro

11-02-2005, 01:04 AM

um, i guess u didnt understand what i wrote

i ment that people said and made fun of keaton back when he was casted to play batman in batman 89. I DID NOT mean that i wanted him to play joker

i'm not going by what you said. People DID say they want Keaton to play Joker. Check out the forums, and check out BOF, Keaton is supposedly a candidate for Joker. It's absurd and just plain wont happen.

Keyser Soze

11-02-2005, 06:53 AM

because he's rumored for the role. In all honesty though if you see gangster no. 1 he can play creepy and he seems like he has the capability of being flamboyant as seen in the aforementioned films, but he's not my first choice for the role, but i wouldn't be upset if he were to be cast.

Well, my first choice is Tim Roth, but I accept that he's now probably too old for the part. Paul Bettany fits with the younger direction the films are taking, while still looking the part. Plus, the fact that he's a good actor also helps. Here is my top 5:

Tim Roth
Paul Bettany
Christopher Eccleston
Benicio Del Toro
Michael Wincott

Anyone from that list would make me very happy. And even if it's someone else, as long as the choice makes sense, and it's a good actor in the role, I won't be complaining.

pieeye

11-02-2005, 01:58 PM

Hello all,

Just wanted to announce that I just posted the black and white version of my cover on my website...go check it out by following this link (http://www.jokeronfilm.com/comic1.html) and clicking on the lips.

pieeye
Proprietor/Editor
http://www.jokeronfilm.com/jofbanner1.jpg (www.jokeronfilm.com)

NOFX

11-02-2005, 02:13 PM

regwec

11-02-2005, 02:29 PM

Pieeye, are you familiar with the German illustrator Wilfried Satty? If not, then I think you would like his stuff.

pieeye

11-02-2005, 02:45 PM

Paul Bettany is coming along. I am really busy with other projects, so its slow going, but I should have an update coming anytime now... By the way, I will also be releasing a colored version of the cover soon!

-pieeye

pieeye

11-02-2005, 02:47 PM

thanks for the Wilfried Satty reference, I will look him up!!

Two-Face

11-02-2005, 02:54 PM

Cool stuff on the Joker web site!

Edd Extraordinaire

11-02-2005, 04:53 PM

Lets have a Saddam Hussien for the joker while were at it noobs.

Quiet noob.

Katsuro

11-02-2005, 08:05 PM

yeah Pieeye, I cant wait to see your finished Paul Bettany manip. I've noticed most of the fan posters and such recently have all been using your Chris Eccelston manip, so having a new high quality manip to use should put some more variety into the fanmade posters and such. Also, he's my top pick to play Joker, so I'd love to see what he could look like in full make-up.

I - Robot

11-02-2005, 10:32 PM

How about Vincent D'Nofrio. He's just about one fo the freakiest dudes Ive ever seen on screen, and he's proven he can do all sort of acting roles. I think he would also be able to present a physical challenge for batman, joker doesnt have to be a little dude. He's smart, and for all the trouble he gives batman you would think he's be well built. With some physical training I think D'Nofrio could do it.

Anybody agree?

Pythenis

11-03-2005, 01:44 PM

This may not work, but what do you think of this Bettany manip?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/bondstreet/014.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/bondstreet/0602.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/bondstreet/041.jpg

or http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/bondstreet/gq31ob2.jpg

Zaphod

11-03-2005, 01:59 PM

This may not work, but what do you think of this Bettany manip?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/bondstreet/0602.jpg

Whoa! Never mind the fact that Bettany isn't my ideal choice, that is ''teh pwnage!!!1!1''. I assume that is your work Pythenis, and hats of to you sir, hats way of! :up: :up:

Keyser Soze

11-03-2005, 02:42 PM

Nice work, Pythenis. These two in partiular kick ass:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/bondstreet/0602.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/bondstreet/041.jpg

BatMan032886

11-03-2005, 02:53 PM

Saw these on Batman-On-Film.com. These mainips are simply amazing. And tho I would prefer The Joker to be in his original purple suit, this suit would be great as well.

Pythenis

11-03-2005, 02:55 PM

Oh...wait....this is not my work....I never claimed it was...I am just a fan that wanted to share the goodies I found....they do rock though..

SUPERSEBAS

11-03-2005, 11:07 PM

SUPERSEBAS, have you ever even read a Batman comic? Your opinions about Joker and Robin really share no agreement at all with the comic history.

Joker is flamboyant, not just enraged and seething all the time. And he'll have green hair.
And Robin is not a goth.

My dad bay me comics of superman and batman since I have 3 years old! and util today I still baying comics made by jim lee!

The thing is that a lot of things dosent work in a realistic version of superheros on the movies as work on the comics! if you want the same on the comics, why you want a movie? the idea of a movie is to adapt to the reality as more as posible!

My idea is, if that gotham city is a dark place, and gothic, why dont make a dark and gothic Robin, that attach to the dark image and temple of batman! and the idea of a clown is a little ridiculous, but if you made it, evil, with black humor! and more in the spirit of marilyn manson, with a face more like THE CROW! and a rare tipe of mafioso, that would work in a movie!

lionhart

11-03-2005, 11:58 PM

My dad bay me comics of superman and batman since I have 3 years old! and util today I still baying comics made by jim lee!

The thing is that a lot of things dosent work in a realistic version of superheros on the movies as work on the comics! if you want the same on the comics, why you want a movie? the idea of a movie is to adapt to the reality as more as posible!

My idea is, if that gotham city is a dark place, and gothic, why dont make a dark and gothic Robin, that attach to the dark image and temple of batman! and the idea of a clown is a little ridiculous, but if you made it, evil, with black humor! and more in the spirit of marilyn manson, with a face more like THE CROW! and a rare tipe of mafioso, that would work in a movie!

No, just no. Batman doesn't need a "dark and gothic" partner. He's dark enough. And the Joker is the Joker, not Marilyn Manson.

Also, please practice your English.

SUPERSEBAS

11-04-2005, 12:31 AM

No, just no. Batman doesn't need a "dark and gothic" partner. He's dark enough. And the Joker is the Joker, not Marilyn Manson.

Also, please practice your English.

My bad English dont disqualify my ideas! and write answering you, I practice my English!

PS: what about your Spanish?

Katsuro

11-04-2005, 01:18 AM

The thing is that a lot of things dosent work in a realistic version of superheros on the movies as work on the comics! if you want the same on the comics, why you want a movie? the idea of a movie is to adapt to the reality as more as posible!

the reason we want a movie is to see the characters we grew up reading adapted onto film. We've read about these characters and imagined them in our heads, but to see them adapted on film is so much more. What we dont want is The Joker to look like The Crow or something like that. That's just lame. Joker must be the Joker, white face, green hair, and big smile!

lionhart

11-04-2005, 01:41 AM

My bad English dont disqualify my ideas! and write answering you, I practice my English!

PS: what about your Spanish?

My Spanish is irrelevant, this is an English board. Maybe I'll just write in French.

And your ideas, frankly, suck.

Keyser Soze

11-04-2005, 11:19 AM

While I disagree with SUPERSEBAS's ideas, I'm thoroughly on his side on the issue of bringing up his English. It isn't his first language, and considering that, he's putting across his points pretty well. And your logic of "This is an English board" seems to make you think your points are somehow more valid than those of someone who doesn't speak perfect English. And that borders on ignorant.

Keyser Soze

11-04-2005, 11:39 AM

Not sure if this piece of news has been posted elsewhere. But even if it has, its good to have it in The Joker Casting Thread. The latest from BOF:

Thursday, November 3, 2005 - 9:08 AM, 10:40 AM, 1:29 PM CENTRAL TIME: I found a blurb on MOVIEHOLE's mailbag had the following to say about how Lachy Hulme got into The Joker mix:
"An insider dropped us an email earlier this week and told us that Christopher Nolan’s actually the one that fancies [Lachy] Hulme for the Clown Prince of Crime. Anything could change between now and the first day of principal photography though."

This is exactly what our source - "Treatment Insider" - previously told BOF on October 15th: "Now as far as casting goes Paul Bettany is a serious contender for The Joker, but so is this Lachy Hulme fellow. From what I heard Nolan was the one who first expressed interest in Hulme." If these are two different sources - which I think they are - it makes both the Hulme and Bettany rumors that more legit...

regwec

11-04-2005, 11:54 AM

The argument that "you wan movie like comics? Why movie at all!!!?!?!?!??" is incredibly weak.

lionhart

11-04-2005, 02:24 PM

I went ahead and made my points. His English was a side note.

spanish39

11-04-2005, 03:13 PM

Robin Williams was originally considered for The Joker. There was a whole controversy that Williams was used as bait to get Nicholson to take the role. Jack was the best choice, but Williams and Curry would've been great. Keaton also auditioned for the role and was a favorite. Don't ever remember Robert DeNiro being mentioned for the role.

Jack was always the ONLY choice ever considered, thats straight from Tim Burton and Michael Ulsan as well I believe. Maybe Williams was considered after Jack but Jack was the ONLY original choice. If Robin was considered it was only because Jack had to think, therefore Jack was really the only person to be considered. They didn't want anyone else for it even though they knew Michael could do either Batma or Joker.

also, what about this dude on the far right? He is probably already a better choice then Carrot Top lol. Just looked long and lanky and creepy. William Fredrickson.
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0510/31/blackheart.jpg

lionhart

11-04-2005, 03:21 PM

Williams was considered, and nearly signed until Jack changed his mind. And no to that guy.

spanish39

11-04-2005, 03:23 PM

SO FAR......as of 3:23pm @ FRI 11/4/05......Out of 91 Votes Total......

IN CURRENT VOTED ORDER:
Chris Eccelstone 15
Paul Bettany 15
Lachy Hulme 10
Vincent Cassell 4
Complete Unknown 4
Will Arnett 3
Jason Lee 3
Robert Carlyle 2

ALL THE NAMES
Paul Sarsgaard 1, Seth Myers 1, Rhys Ifans 1, Nick Stahl 1, Michael Wincott 1, Steve Carrell 1, Ewen Bremner 1, Bill Mosley 1, Noah Taylor 1, Zach Braff 1, Walton Goggins 1, Will Friedel 1, Alan Cummings 1, Toby Stephens, Michael McKidd, Jake Bussy, Maichael Massee, Mathew Lillard, Ryan Gosling, Michael Emerson, Robert Joy, Simon Baker, Craig Beirko, Bradley Cooper, Stuart Townsand, Sam Rockwell, Hugo Weaving, Andy Serkis, Timothy Olephant, Luke Goss, Vincent Gallo,

THE OLD AND ODD CHOICES:
Tim Roth 6, Crispin Glover 4, Benicio Del Torro 2, Sean Penn 1, Adrien Brody 1, Johnny Depp 1, Jude Law 1, Jim Carrey 1, Steve Busemi, Ray Liotta, Marilyn Manson, Michael Keaton

PEOPLE WHO HAVE VOTED ALREADY:
Spanish39, ANTHONYNASTI, Muze, Joker.tm, illmatikk, thechubbysaint, Keyser Soze, regwec, Detective Flass, Two-Face, dogsgotlipstick, Ed_Extrodinaire, DavidTyler, The Only Woj, Dark Knight88, Pieeye, The Question, Henri DuCard, Muze, Brian2887, Katsuro, sasquatchs, ghost113, aka_sammym, StorminNorman

Keyser Soze

11-04-2005, 03:36 PM

Interesting. I see your shortlist taking shape. I'd say include everyone with more than one vote, so that would be your top list and the top three "odd choices". That way you're limiting the amount of people just in the list because of name-recognition, but not ruling out genuinely popular candidates.

And one other note - It's not Walter Goggins, it's Walton Goggins, or Walt Goggins. Sorry to nitpick...

Katsuro

11-04-2005, 05:11 PM

Jack was always the ONLY choice ever considered, thats straight from Tim Burton and Michael Ulsan as well I believe. Maybe Williams was considered after Jack but Jack was the ONLY original choice. If Robin was considered it was only because Jack had to think, therefore Jack was really the only person to be considered. They didn't want anyone else for it even though they knew Michael could do either Batma or Joker.

Well what I heard was that they wanted Jack Nicholson, but he didn't want to do it for whatever reason. So then they went with Robin Williams, but when Jack saw they were gonna go with Williams, and I think they were gonna pay him more, Jack changed his mind. I remember reading that Robin Williams felt they never really wanted him, and that they were just using him to lure Jack in.

The Chairman

11-04-2005, 05:23 PM

Well what I heard was that they wanted Jack Nicholson, but he didn't want to do it for whatever reason. So then they went with Robin Williams, but when Jack saw they were gonna go with Williams, and I think they were gonna pay him more, Jack changed his mind. I remember reading that Robin Williams felt they never really wanted him, and that they were just using him to lure Jack in.

That's what I heard as for as Williams go. But I have heard from several different sources that Tim Curry was also considered. If Nicholson hadn't played Joker, I'd have definitely casted him.

Maybe because I'm a big Rocky Horror fan.

Katsuro

11-04-2005, 05:47 PM

That's what I heard as for as Williams go. But I have heard from several different sources that Tim Curry was also considered. If Nicholson hadn't played Joker, I'd have definitely casted him.

Maybe because I'm a big Rocky Horror fan.

Hmm... I doubt Tim Curry would've gone for it. That would lead to a great deal of typecasting, with him playing "It" and all. Actually, was It made before or after B'89?

SUPERSEBAS

11-04-2005, 07:42 PM

My Spanish is irrelevant, this is an English board. Maybe I'll just write in French.

And your ideas, frankly, suck.

Yes, this is a English board! And I am writing English! and I don`t have to write perfectly to put my ideas here! this is not a exclusive place for English people! so I dont need your permison to come here to give my ideas.

And I thing the same from you, your ideas are ugly, and with no imagination, you just want to see the hereos exactly like in the comics, and that is not an adaptation for the cinematograpy! .

And I feel from you, a bad aptitude with me, so I will not speek with you anymore!

lionhart

11-04-2005, 07:43 PM

Well I guess you can say that Nolan's ideas are ugly and with no imagination too.

Let's play out your "goth" Robin idea.

"Batman, why do I have to wear this costume, I look a goddamn conformist." *lights up a cigarette* "I'm going to paint it black, because it expresses my inner soul." *puffs on the cigarette* "That way I won't be a conformist. Alfred, go get me some razor blades. I feel like slitting mr wrists. Goddamn conformists."

Batman's response: "Get the hell out of my cave, you damn brat."

SUPERSEBAS

11-04-2005, 09:30 PM

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a237/supersebas/g.jpg

lionhart

11-04-2005, 09:53 PM

I realize you're going for what you call "realistic," how does Man bat fit into that plan?

spanish39

11-04-2005, 10:42 PM

....^and why is man-bat the same guy from "Ghost Rider" still?

would you guys like to give me your top 5 choices?

SUPERSEBAS
LIONHEART
PYTHENIS

Slipknot

11-04-2005, 11:21 PM

Chris Eccelstone I suppose would be good.

spanish39

11-04-2005, 11:42 PM

your new avatar goes along good with your name man. If you want KNOT you can give me a couple more.

spanish39

11-05-2005, 12:06 AM

SO FAR......as of 12:06am @ SAT 11/5/05......Out of 101 Votes Total......

IN CURRENT VOTED ORDER:
Chris Eccelstone 17
Paul Bettany 16
Lachy Hulme 11
Vincent Cassell 5
Complete Unknown 4
Will Arnett 3
Jason Lee 3
Robert Carlyle 2
Sam Rockwell 2
Alan Cummings 2

ALL THE NAMES
Paul Sarsgaard 1, Seth Myers 1, Rhys Ifans 1, Nick Stahl 1, Michael Wincott 1, Steve Carrell 1, Ewen Bremner 1, Bill Mosley 1, Noah Taylor 1, Zach Braff 1, Walton Goggins 1, Will Friedel 1, Andy Serkis 1,

Toby Stephens, Michael McKidd, Jake Bussy, Maichael Massee, Mathew Lillard, Ryan Gosling, Michael Emerson, Robert Joy, Simon Baker, Craig Beirko, Bradley Cooper, Stuart Townsand, Hugo Weaving, Timothy Olephant, Luke Goss, Vincent Gallo, James Frain, Ryan Reynolds, Richard E. Grant, Richard Roxburgh, James Marsters

THE OLD AND ODD CHOICES:
Tim Roth 6, Crispin Glover 4, Benicio Del Torro 2, Sean Penn 1, Adrien Brody 1, Johnny Depp 1, Jude Law 1, Jim Carrey 2,

Steve Busemi, Ray Liotta, Marilyn Manson, Michael Keaton, Robin Williams, Tim Curry, Brad Dourif

PEOPLE WHO HAVE VOTED ALREADY:
Spanish39, ANTHONYNASTI, Muze, Joker.tm, illmatikk, thechubbysaint, Keyser Soze, regwec, Detective Flass, Two-Face, dogsgotlipstick, Ed_Extrodinaire, DavidTyler, The Only Woj, Dark Knight88, Pieeye, The Question, Henri DuCard, Muze, Brian2887, Katsuro, sasquatchs, ghost113, aka_sammym, StorminNorman, Slipknot, Ceb-Man, Antmanx68