Joker Casting Threads [merged-30]

[Compi716]

It's kinda funny, but you know who would've made a great Joker?



Christina Bale.
But I'll take him as Batman any day.

[Mr. Socko]

You take away the funny nutty side...you take away part of the Joker.

I mean that super corny kiddie Joker.

I'm talking Arkham Asylum Physcho JOKA BAY BAY!

[The Last Meatbag]

Joker from BTAS is great I mean he just seemed campy because he couldn't really kill anyone or do anything that horrible on the show

[Mr. Socko]

I couldn't stand The Joker in TAS, I hated him. He wasn't a physchopathic killer he was more like a Clown from a Children's party with a butt load of bad jokes in a yellow bag. But he was much better in MOTP. But don't get me wrong, I loved Freeze and Two Face from TAS.

[BatmanReborn]

rob zombie, cut the hair, white out the face, put on a purple suit, and you got jim lees joker

[DOO BEE]

what about... Drop Dead Fred.... Rik Mayal.......??????????????????????????

[str8raz0r]

rob zombie, cut the hair, white out the face, put on a purple suit, and you got jim lees joker

http://www.hillcity-comics.com/poster_misc/batman_villian_big.jpg
Not to sound harsh, but how in the green hell do you see Rob Zombie in Jim Lee's Joker??? Look at him!

That looks as much like Rob Zombie as I look like a hot dog cart.

[BatmanBale]

Paul Bettany for Joker and Nolan should screentest him.

[spanish39]

I watched Peter Sarrsgarrd on SNL last night, he has gained some weight. They did a little bit for his monolouge where they talk about how creepy he is. His are in fact creepy thats for sure. Only problem was that he couldn't keep all his lines straight. Though most who host SNL can't anyway lol. Anyway, his voice seems a little feminine or not quite manly like Joker's so thats good but he is a little tubby and doesn't quite look like Joker. After all he is EW!'s pick for the role not mine. Just thought I would mention it.

[Saph]

what about... Drop Dead Fred.... Rik Mayal.......??????????????????????????
He's too old now.

[Saph]

It's kinda funny, but you know who would've made a great Joker?



Christina Bale.
But I'll take him as Batman any day.
Michael Keaton would have been also.

[Lone Wolf]

http://www.hillcity-comics.com/poster_misc/batman_villian_big.jpg
Not to sound harsh, but how in the green hell do you see Rob Zombie in Jim Lee's Joker??? Look at him!

That looks as much like Rob Zombie as I look like a hot dog cart.

Now this is how Joker should look like,have the psychotic look and that sadistic laugh.I have this picture in my own copy of Hush.

Thats how Joker should resemble.

[The Last Meatbag]

Id also like for Joker to have those chemical burns around his eyes

[Lone Wolf]

Good thought.

[The Last Meatbag]

It makes a big difference in how much creepier it will make him look.

[spanish39]

I hated the art of Joker from that Hush run, he looked like a long nosed freak. Thats not the best interpretation. You should see him right before he found out the cops name who killed his wife, right before he dissapeared naked. The art was pretty damn good. Now that he is back it is a little odd but still good, much better than the twisted bird of the Hush arc. Check out the cover of the most recent Batman comic where he is holding an axe over Hush, damn great artwork.

http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/4682_400x600.jpg

compi716, thats what I said before he was cast as Batman, it's the reason I joined SHH! in the first place. You wouldn't believe the negative crap I took for it but I stayed with him as my pick. He would have been great.

[Lone Wolf]

Something like this.

http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptionscomic/joker.jpg

[Two-Face]

Something like this.

http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptionscomic/joker.jpg

I like that :up:

[Lone Wolf]

I like that :up:

Yeah,if someone is to be cast as Joker it should be someone who can keep up with that picture.Lachy Hulme is who that pic reminds me of,the long slender nose and that look that for sure would give you nightmares.Thats what I like about it.

[str8raz0r]

Now this is how Joker should look like,have the psychotic look and that sadistic laugh.I have this picture in my own copy of Hush.

Thats how Joker should resemble.

I, personally, hope that the Joker looks a little more human.

A great actor can do the manic look (twitchy eyes, facial contortions/tics, etc.) and the crazy laugh. We really don't need prosthetics for the con and nose. I think a person that looks human with the Joker's color scheme and grin could be equally effective. Hell, look at Nicholson in 89! The guy had a very round face, but his look was great. Jim Lee's joker looks a little too cartoony for live action.

[Lone Wolf]

I, personally, hope that the Joker looks a little more human.

A great actor can do the manic look (twitchy eyes, facial contortions/tics, etc.) and the crazy laugh. We really don't need prosthetics for the con and nose. I think a person that looks human with the Joker's color scheme and grin could be equally effective. Hell, look at Nicholson in 89! The guy had a very round face, but his look was great. Jim Lee's joker looks a little too cartoony for live action.

See there are few people,who like you want the same thing.With Hulme he could do just that,he already has the facial expressions again the nose and Im sure the acting to do the part justice.We wouldnt need to much assortments added to his face cause he already has them.

Though I dont feel the same way,Im just speaking for people who I know,who want what you want to see.

Joker has been said in hot rumors that he'll be very dark and creepy in the sequel and,and thats the route Im going with aswell.

[spanish39]

I, personally, hope that the Joker looks a little more human.

A great actor can do the manic look (twitchy eyes, facial contortions/tics, etc.) and the crazy laugh. We really don't need prosthetics for the con and nose. I think a person that looks human with the Joker's color scheme and grin could be equally effective. Hell, look at Nicholson in 89! The guy had a very round face, but his look was great. Jim Lee's joker looks a little too cartoony for live action.

While all that is great and all I have to disagree. Only because The Joker himself in the comics has infact had some kind of facial work done. For any of you who know what I'm talking about and want to double check or for those of you who don't, go pick up "The Killing Joke" and if you look at what would be page # 10 and you can see that from one panal to the next his face is slightly, SLIGHTLY, different. His cheeks are bonier and his chin is slightly longer. So with that said you kind of have to give some facial prothestics to get the real effect of The Joker. His face was odd before hand, but it got more odd after.

[Katsuro]

I really dont think they should apply any prosthetics at all, especially if they go with someone like Hulme, who has an already Joker-like face. I hated that big hunk of plastic on Nicholson's face, and I dont want to see any more prosthetics this time, whether it's a fake smile, or a longer nose or chin. I want this character to look like someone who's had his skin bleached and his hair dyed green, that's it, so I dont see why he'd have some outrageously contorted face.

[Brian2887]

exactly.. unless they're subtle.. like del toro's prosthetics in Sin City.

[Nightwing1977]

I do like the idea of Joker still having the chemical burns around his eyes, Meatbag. I would also like that Joker's face has more of a badly burn on his face. Seeing as Joker fell into an acid, he should have more of a real burn look beside bleached white skins & green hair. I felt Nichlson's makeup was too much of a clown makeup & not a victim of acid bath. He should have burn skins. I hope they add that with BB2. :up:

[The BatDude]

yeah that would look sweet

[spanish39]

I would think it would be subtle. He can't walk around normal, I mean he had alot of facial damage falling into acid, I'm sure his face didn't hold together. As long as it looks natural though, not like Jack in '89.

[Lone Wolf]

Some pictures.

http://www.dcdatabaseproject.com/wiki/images/4/43/Joker234.jpg
http://www.dcdatabaseproject.com/wiki/images/6/6d/Joker_012.jpg
http://www.dcdatabaseproject.com/wiki/images/8/80/Joker_013.jpg

Which actor do you see in these pictures?

[lionhart]

^ Bettany

[Lone Wolf]

^ Bettany

The second one reminds me of Eccleston.

http://www.jokeronfilm.com/jkedit2.jpg

[regwec]

All three remind me of Eccleston to some extent.

[Lone Wolf]

All three remind me of Eccleston to some extent.

Actually, the first one with Joker holding the gun reminds me of Hulme.

http://www.jokeronfilm.com/lachy2.jpg

Doesn't it?

[Dark Knight]

after viewing all the classic drawings and renderings of The Clown prince of Crime...and seeing manips.....i am convinced that these fine actors should be the ones to portray the Joker.

Paul Bettany
Christopher Eccleston
Johnny Depp
and the unkown Lachy Hulme

at this point....i don't anyone should be considered.....and i know we haven't heard of Eccleston being in the running.....but how can Nolan and the producers ignore his physical attributes, look, acting ability? Plus the manips of him as Joker in here and t JokerOnFilm....are freakin amazing!

[spanish39]

Jokeronfilm? Is there such a place? Thats cool if there is. Oh wait, thats pie-eye's place...nevermind.

I don't see anyone actor in those pictures to be honest, no one looks like The Joker in actually. I just like Hulme casue he is unknown, can act, looks crazy when he wants, and his face isn't that bad for the role. I would say Eccelstone probably most looks like Joker but I, and I don't know why, don't want to see him as Joker, though I could live with it if it did happen, more so then Bettany anyway. At this point any of the 3 will work for me and I hope it's with in those three or it's some up and comer who has never been in a thing but looks like Joker and can act his ass off, ala Brandon Routh kinda.

[Brian2887]

Because I haven't in a while, and because I'm bored, I'm gonna go ahead and list a top 5.

5. Matthew Lillard (Scream)
Yeah, I know what you're thinking. Primarily, the guy has done stupid comedies. However, Lillard is a much better actor than he's given credit for. He carried the underrated SLC Punk!, saved Wicker Park from being a total waste of time, and played a convincing whacko in Scream. He was classically trained and really puts his everything into whatever role he takes. He's tall, lanky, creepy, has an evil smile, and is the right age.. Despite the fact he was Shaggy in Scooby Doo, Lillard should be given a look in regard to the role.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/Brian2887/jokerlillard.jpg

4. Johnny Depp (Secret Window)
Depp owns whatever role he's given. I have no doubt he'd be an absolutely fantastic Joker. He's a dream for about any role out there. However, somehow, I just don't see it happening. I'd love to see him in the role, but something tells me he won't be involved in this franchise.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/Brian2887/jokerdepp.jpg

3. Paul Bettany (Gangster #1)
Bettany is just a good actor, and he's being seriously discussed for the role. Out of the supposed candidates, he is my favorite. I've never seen him turn in a bad performance. If he could be crazy and evil while convincingly dropping his accent, I could certainly see him doing well in the part.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/wimbledon/_group_photos/paul_bettany29.jpg

2. Jason Lee (Dogma)
Yeah, that's right, Earl. Jason Lee is a very talented actor / comedian who is always fun to watch. His turn in Dogma is a nice combination of comedy and evil. Under Nolan's direction, he could dial up the creepy and play an excellent Joker.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/Brian2887/gunhappy.jpg

1. Tim Roth (Planet of the Apes)
Tim Roth may be the best character actor working right now. He always disappears into whatever role he has. The man has manic energy, charisma, a talent for voices.. The only problem is his age. Roth will be 45/46 when the sequels are filming. That may be a little old, but his skill as an actor totally make up for it.
http://www.deboerio.net/cinema/photoacteur/timroth.jpg

Honorable Mention - Lachy Hulme (The Matrix Revolutions)
I've barely seen this guy act. I have Enter the Matrix, in which he plays the role of a deadpan operator.. Other than that, Hulme is a complete unknown to me. If Nolan supports him, though, so do I. I feel awkward putting him in my top 5, though, since I've never seen him in anything that would make me believe he could pull it off.
http://www.jokeronfilm.com/lachy2.jpg


Wouldn't it be interesting...? - Dane Cook (Waiting)
Dane Cook is one of the wildest, craziest, most off-the-wall stand-up comedians in the business. He's young, tall, lanky, crazy, and has quite a fan following. Often, comedians are excellent dramatic actors, and I'd love to see Dane given a crack at this kind of role. I think his energy alone should earn him a screen test to see how he could handle playing the Joker. However, since he's never had such a role, I don't know if he could pull it off. It would be interesting, though.
http://www.orlandoimprov.com/comics/cookd.jpg

[The Only Woj]

I know someone threw him out there for Nigma, but how about Hugh Laurie?

http://hughlaurie.smugmug.com/gallery/1146221/2/53435583/Large

http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/463469/1/18918955

[spanish39]

Hulme is in that awful filme Crocodile Hunter as an FBI agent lol. But I still know he can act.

[The Chairman]

I know someone threw him out there for Nigma, but how about Hugh Laurie?

http://hughlaurie.smugmug.com/gallery/1146221/2/53435583/Large

http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/463469/1/18918955

Hugh Laurie? I could never see him as Joker. Riddler, yeah, but not Joker.

Also, does anyone think that David Bowie would be interested in playing The Joker since he's doing The Prestige with Nolan and Bale? Because I've always though that Bowie would make a great Joker.

[Lone Wolf]

I know someone threw him out there for Nigma, but how about Hugh Laurie?

http://hughlaurie.smugmug.com/gallery/1146221/2/53435583/Large

http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/463469/1/18918955

This is a great candidate for Riddler, not Joker.

[warren_sparta27]

My top pick for the role would be Johnny Depp, he is an amazing actor that just becomes whatever role he plays, would be my dream choice.
But i'm not too confiedent that Nolan will choose Depp, i'd say Hulme will get the role.

[The Last Meatbag]

Leonardo Dicaprio :o

[warren_sparta27]

Leonardo Dicaprio :o

would never want him in a batman film :down

[The Last Meatbag]

Hes a great actor, have you seen the aviator?

[tamron]

Because I haven't in a while, and because I'm bored, I'm gonna go ahead and list a top 5.

5. Matthew Lillard (Scream)
Yeah, I know what you're thinking. Primarily, the guy has done stupid comedies. However, Lillard is a much better actor than he's given credit for. He carried the underrated SLC Punk!, saved Wicker Park from being a total waste of time, and played a convincing whacko in Scream. He was classically trained and really puts his everything into whatever role he takes. He's tall, lanky, creepy, has an evil smile, and is the right age...

You know, I hadn't thought of him, but he would make a good Joker.

He could hit the Joker from all angles. He's tall, he's lanky, he's funny, (which is one element of Joker that I don't think some of the rumored contenders can do), yet he can be serious. He has a certaiin playfulness that would work well as the Clown Prince of Crime. I may have a new favorite.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8646/doublelillard9li.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8227/matthewlillard0232ge.jpg
^If someone could please, please manip this pic, I'll give 'em a cookie. :D

Great casting suggestion, Brian2887! :up:

[spanish39]

This thread just keeps repeating itself a milion times over lol. Lillard is not original and has been frought up before, there is an old manip of him as Riddler that looks pretty cool though.

Andy Serkis used to be mentioned as well a LONG time ago and now he is actually in "The Prestige" with Bale and Nolan....so who knows. Myu bet is on one of the three though, Hulme/Bettany/Eccelstone.

Oh, and Bowie is like a hundred years old now, too old for Joker IMO.

[The Shredder]

Out of the names mentioned for The Joker, I like Bettany and Glover.

However, if Depp were to land the role, I wouldnt have a problem with that either. He's an exceptional actor, and would likely be great. Although I do prefer Bettany of Glover over him.

[Orko Is King]

Wouldn't it be interesting...? - Dane Cook (Waiting)
Dane Cook is one of the wildest, craziest, most off-the-wall stand-up comedians in the business. He's young, tall, lanky, crazy, and has quite a fan following. Often, comedians are excellent dramatic actors, and I'd love to see Dane given a crack at this kind of role. I think his energy alone should earn him a screen test to see how he could handle playing the Joker. However, since he's never had such a role, I don't know if he could pull it off. It would be interesting, though.
http://www.orlandoimprov.com/comics/cookd.jpg

Hmmm, I've never thought of that one before. Can someone do some manips?

[Katsuro]

Wouldn't it be interesting...? - Dane Cook (Waiting)
Dane Cook is one of the wildest, craziest, most off-the-wall stand-up comedians in the business. He's young, tall, lanky, crazy, and has quite a fan following. Often, comedians are excellent dramatic actors, and I'd love to see Dane given a crack at this kind of role. I think his energy alone should earn him a screen test to see how he could handle playing the Joker. However, since he's never had such a role, I don't know if he could pull it off. It would be interesting, though.
http://www.orlandoimprov.com/comics/cookd.jpg

No. Just no. I cant come up with the words to describe how little I like this guy, and how upset i'd be if he was The Joker.

[Keyser Soze]

Hugh Laurie is an interesting choice. Could he pull off The Joker? Probably. But I'm saying no to him because he is easily my top choice for The Riddler.

[darknight7]

You know, I hadn't thought of him, but he would make a good Joker.

He could hit the Joker from all angles. He's tall, he's lanky, he's funny, (which is one element of Joker that I don't think some of the rumored contenders can do), yet he can be serious. He has a certaiin playfulness that would work well as the Clown Prince of Crime. I may have a new favorite.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8646/doublelillard9li.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8227/matthewlillard0232ge.jpg
^If someone could please, please manip this pic, I'll give 'em a cookie. :D

Great casting suggestion, Brian2887! :up:

I decided to smudge the lipstick a bit, because I beleive that the Joker should apply his lipstick.

anyhoo...here it is...
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1773/matthewlillard0232ge0wq.jpg
So where's my cookie:D
--dk7

[tamron]

anyhoo...here it is...

So where's my cookie:D
--dk7
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/575/freshbakedcookies8bp.jpg

Thank you. Grant manip. :up:

[darknight7]

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/575/freshbakedcookies8bp.jpg

Thank you. Grant manip. :up:


NOT ONLY COOKIES! BUT MILK TOO?

bless your soul:)

--dk7

[misteranderson4]

if johnny depp wont be the joker, which i dont think he will, i think he s gotten pissed that his rep has gone soft.

ed norton has a great ability to become the role he is playing and has a great skill of playing a character w/ dual personalities. look at his work in american history x or fight club or 25th hr....he s my pick for the joker

http://www.grist.org/comments/interactivist/2005/04/18/ed_norton.jpg

w/ a lil photoshop work cant u seem him being the perfect joker?

[Eddie Dean]

Nah, but he would make a great Riddler.

[The Chairman]

There's already a thread on this. A big one.

[Two-Face]

Nah, but he would make a great Riddler.

Exactly he's my choice too as The Riddler.

[Nightwing1977]

Nah, but he would make a great Riddler.

Yeah. Most roles has shown him to be a smart & calm character. That suit the Riddler. I just can't see him as the Joker.

[Abe Rush]

I'll try to do the impossible and name someone new...
He's a french canadien and I think he physically looks the part.
( He might be too old though, but lets try to be open minded )

Marc Labrèche
http://www.radio-canada.ca/television/fric_show/images/maj/ph_album07.jpg

http://www.radio-canada.ca/television/fric_show/images/maj/ph_album02.jpg

Those are from his new show, called Fric Show. You'd be amazed how "joker-ish" it looks at times.
You can check their site, but there's not much on it...


http://www.radio-canada.ca/television/fric_show/index.shtml

... any takers?

[StorminNorman]

I'll try to do the impossible and name someone new...
He's a french canadien and I think he physically looks the part.
( He might be too old though, but lets try to be open minded )

Marc Labrèche
http://www.radio-canada.ca/television/fric_show/images/maj/ph_album07.jpg

http://www.radio-canada.ca/television/fric_show/images/maj/ph_album02.jpg

Those are from his new show, called Fric Show. You'd be amazed how "joker-ish" it looks at times.
You can check their site, but there's not much on it...


http://www.radio-canada.ca/television/fric_show/index.shtml

... any takers?

Looks like a Hatter to me.

[Eddie Dean]

Looks like a Hatter to me.
Yeah.

[tamron]

I can see the Joker resemblance. In this picture, (sorry I couldn't find this image in a bigger size,) he looks a lot like Jim Lee's Joker.
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6821/marc2im.jpg
http://www.hillcity-comics.com/poster_misc/batman_villian_big.jpg

[sinewave]

i seriously doubt they would cast matthew lillard in a role as important as the joker. sure, nolan cast katie holmes in bb, but that was a small role. the dude is extremely annoying and can't act. i'd prefer bettany, eccleson, brody or hulme.

[antmanx68]

The only way I want to see Lillard in batman 2 is if Batman has to team up with the scooby gang.

[JackBauer]

Lillard is more annoying than funny... :o

[BK]

The only way I want to see Lillard in batman 2 is if Batman has to team up with the scooby gang.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000687FU.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

OMG, a live-action version would kick so much ass. :o :up:

[ICXCNIKA]

I think Hugh Grant would be an excellent Joker. He's a really good actor, can be both funny and serious, isn't too big of a star, and looks a tremendous amount like the Joker, complete with a huge smile, and everything!

http://www.clangrant-us.org/images/hugh-grant.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/Jokerorig.png

http://www.polsupply.com.pl/tapety/panowie/HughGrant_800.jpg

http://popsugar.com/uploads/hughtemper01.jpghttp://popsugar.com/uploads//hughtemper02.jpg

[sinewave]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/Jokerorig.png

Man, Joker looks like Lyle Lovitt in this pic! Wierd!

[Two-Face]

I think Hugh Grant would be an excellent Joker. He's a really good actor, can be both funny and serious, isn't too big of a star, and looks a tremendous amount like the Joker, complete with a huge smile, and everything!

http://www.clangrant-us.org/images/hugh-grant.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/Jokerorig.png

http://www.polsupply.com.pl/tapety/panowie/HughGrant_800.jpg

http://popsugar.com/uploads/hughtemper01.jpghttp://popsugar.com/uploads//hughtemper02.jpg


I'm a Brit but no Hugh Grant as Joker cos his too nice to be evil Joker.:down

[ICXCNIKA]

Denzel Washington's a real nice guy, and look at the savage character he played in Training Day. Hugh Grant can also be a nice guy and still play an evil, sadistic character.

[ICXCNIKA]

:mad: I can't put a Lyle Lovett picture next to this!http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/Jokerorig.png

[ICXCNIKA]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/Jokerorig.png

Man, Joker looks like Lyle Lovitt in this pic! Wierd!

You're Right!!:eek:

[Mr. Socko]

Thats Joker right?

[ICXCNIKA]

Yes. It's from Batman: The Killing Joke.

[Mr. Socko]

Shoot, never got that one. I've searched for it everywhere and all I get is a "no" and "They don't make anymore prints of it".

What was his real name in there?

[Antonello Blueberry]

Shoot, never got that one. I've searched for it everywhere and all I get is a "no" and "They don't make anymore prints of it".

What was his real name in there?
They lied to you. Killing Joke is always available. And they never reveal Joker's real name.

[Lone Wolf]

Paul Bettany is going to be on Jay Leno tonight very soon. Anyone watching?

[BK]

I'll watch it. Thanks for the heads up. :up:

I'll especially be looking out for some Joker-tendencies if there are any. :o

[Capt Throbberson]

I found these Bettany manips on BOF:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/bondstreet/014.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/bondstreet/jokrrr.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/bondstreet/0602.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/bondstreet/joker.jpg


And my favorite...

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3356/joker8ui.gif

I challenge anyone to tell me that doesn't look in the very least, formidable, creepy, and Joker-like. I always knew Bettany had the acting skills and some of the facial features (which I predict Nolan will exhaggerate a bit more with prosthetics), but damn these manips just set me over. He's most definitely my first choice now. :up:


Ever since I first saw them, I thought they were good, but something was off.


It just hit me, the eyes make him look to much like a zombie/lizard person

[Lone Wolf]

I'll watch it. Thanks for the heads up. :up:

I'll especially be looking out for some Joker-tendencies if there are any. :o

It's over now, he was talking about his next movie with Leonardo Dicaprio. I was hoping he'd atleast mention his intrests in the role for Joker but that didn't happen. It showed a clip of him in 'Firewall' which is his latest film, he had the name Joker all over him I thought. Did you see that?

[spanish39]

Marc Labrèche looks like he could have been a good Joker in '89 maybe, he does look like a great hatter though, and he is French and French people have a hard time doing in American accent for some reason.

I don't EVER wan't to see Lillard in Batman or Depp or Hugh Grant lmao.

Mr. Socko, you are being lied to lol. "The Killing Joke" is in paperback and everywhere, try getting it from Amazon or ebay or somewhere online, it's everywhere cause it's one of the most famous story lines.

Oh, and I also watched Leno last night, I only n oticed Bettany was on when I hit INFO on the remote and saw his name. I though, hey maybe, but I figured he would never mention it so I'm not surprised lol, though he does have some weight on him now that he is older.

[spanish39]

Marc Labrèche looks like he could have been a good Joker in '89 maybe, he does look like a great hatter though, and he is French and French people have a hard time doing in American accent for some reason.

I don't EVER wan't to see Lillard in Batman or Depp or Hugh Grant lmao.

Mr. Socko, you are being lied to lol. "The Killing Joke" is in paperback and everywhere, try getting it from Amazon or ebay or somewhere online, it's everywhere cause it's one of the most famous story lines.

Oh, and I also watched Leno last night, I only n oticed Bettany was on when I hit INFO on the remote and saw his name. I though, hey maybe, but I figured he would never mention it so I'm not surprised lol, though he does have some weight on him now that he is older.

[ICXCNIKA]

Ever since I first saw them, I thought they were good, but something was off.


It just hit me, the eyes make him look to much like a zombie/lizard person

Also, he has no eyebrows. These are great pics, but I just don't see the Joker in them; just a guy in make-up.:o

[ICXCNIKA]

I think this is the best picture of the Joker I've ever seen, here! It's the first picture on the page, in the mental institution, with the other villains in the background. I can't post it for some reason, can someone PLEASE try to?!!


http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dbatman%2Bthe%2Bjoker%26rs%3D1 %26sm%3DYahoo%2521%2BSearch%26toggle%3D1%26ei%3DUT F-8%26fr%3DFP-tab-img-t%26vf%3D&w=500&h=762&imgurl=spider-bob.com%2Fvillains%2Fdc%2Fimages%2FJoker06.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fspider-bob.com%2Fvillains%2Fdc%2FJoker.htm&size=159.5kB&name=Joker06.jpg&p=batman+the+joker&type=jpeg&no=11&tt=5,461&ei=UTF-8

[Nivek]

Ever since I first saw them, I thought they were good, but something was off.


It just hit me, the eyes make him look to much like a zombie/lizard person


Well, personally I think he looks like a vampire in those manips more so than the Joker. His facial features, voice, and build are wrong for the part. I have yet to see anything of Paul Bettany that makes me see a Joker quality to him at all. I honestly dont know what you guys see in him.

[BK]

Considering the majority see some Joker in him, I think the question should be pointed towards you. :p

[Mr. Socko]

I love this pic

http://spider-bob.com/villains/dc/images/Joker07.jpg

and has Joker's real name ever been revealed in a comic book?

[BK]

Nope. His identity is completely unknown.

[Nivek]

Considering the majority see some Joker in him, I think the question should be pointed towards you. :p


I doubt Bettany supporters would be concidered the majority. Outside of this board, more people are cheering on Brody, and Crispin Glover.

[BK]

I'm talking about just in terms of what people think of Bettany as the Joker.

[spanish39]

Glover is a hack and I have never heard anyone outside this board mention Brody as someone who has an actual shot. Brody will never happen either lol, come on guys.

As for Bettany, I don't see it either, but some people seem to like him cause he can act and he is popular, I doubt he will get it either, realalisticly. The fan favorite from everything I have seen is Eccelstone.

THE ONLY name mentioned by WB, or Nolan or anyone, is Hulme, bottom line.

[antmanx68]

How do we know that different people at WB arent pulling for their own choices? Just because the actors themselves havent been contacted doesnt mean that Bettany is not someone being considered by producers or execs etc. There have been several reports from BOF that say Bettany is in the running (wether he knows/wants to be or not).

[ICXCNIKA]

I don't know Lache Hulme by his work, but to me, he looks and seems absolutely perfect for the Joker: Hulme's evidently funny, looks to be a perfect age for the part, has got the dark, menacing look, a good head of hair, cool eyebrows, a long, narrow face, a pointy nose, and a pointy-enough chin.

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=lachy+hulme/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/SIG=12isjbrgj/EXP=1139211542/*-http%3A//ffmedia.ign.com/batman/image/lachy_hulme_1089249000.jpg http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=lachy+hulme/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/SIG=12ctp7v3u/EXP=1139211711/*-http%3A//ffmedia.ign.com/batman/multimedia/joker-comic.jpghttp://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=lachy+hulme/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/SIG=13cegq3d8/EXP=1139211612/*-http%3A//photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/sm_lachy_joker_drawing1.jpg

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=lachy+hulme/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/SIG=12tbeell4/EXP=1139211653/*-http%3A//archive.gamespy.com/interviews/february03/matrixactors/lachy_s.jpg http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=lachy+hulme/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/SIG=12j3c20fs/EXP=1139211687/*-http%3A//media.mnginteractive.com/media/paper210/052503_lachy.jpg

[Two-Face]

Nope. His identity is completely unknown.

I hope it stays taht way in the sequel too.:up:

[Nivek]

Glover is a hack and I have never heard anyone outside this board mention Brody as someone who has an actual shot. Brody will never happen either lol, come on guys.


Well, I've heard quite a few "reguler joe's" bring up Glover, and as far as Adrian Brody goes, I guess he doesn't have that popularity and recognition from being an award winner, and being concidered one of American Cinimas top rising stars.

[Two-Face]

Brody for Joker.

[darknight7]

I changed my first place pick. Personally, I am all for Adrien Brody. I think he would be awesome.

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/9576/polanskizong023bj.jpg

--dk7

[BK]

The only thing setting me back on Brody is his overall "psychotic" or "mad" look. I think it's his eyebrows. Yeah yeah, what a trivial thing to point out, but they look a lot like this: :O

Seems more like someone I would go "awww" about rather than "ahhhh!!"

:o

[ICXCNIKA]

[quote=BK]The only thing setting me back on Brody is his overall "psychotic" or "mad" look. I think it's his eyebrows. Yeah yeah, what a trivial thing to point out, but they look a lot like this: :O

HA-HA-HA-HA-HAAAAA!! That's hilarious!:D

[spanish39]

Big deal, he is famous and up and coming, that does not mean he is under consideration to be The Joker at all. Anyone could be up for the role true, but the only name anyway from the studio or the producers or whoever, as a mention, is Lachy Hulme. I honestly think that they have condiered people but have not yet sat down and actually discussed it. It's going to be a little while, hell The Joker may not even be in the film for all we know. Anyone who thinks they are casting or whatever is out of their gord. The film has yet to be written or even concepted at this point due to other things they are working on, (WB, Nolan, Producers, actors).

All I'm saying is their is a lot of fanboy hype around names here or anywhere else. Brody will probably not be The Joker, I mean come on lol, and DEpp? Forget about it lol. Nothing nowhere is offical or even close to being but all I'm saying is that Hulme is the ONLY name mentioned by people who actually make a difference. Don't get so defensive guys lmao.

[BK]

When was it even announced by anyone that's working on the sequel that Hulme was in talks. The only places I've seen him mentioned are on rumor sites like BOF. :confused:

[spanish39]

It was never said he was in talks. Like I said he was mentioned as someone being looked at on BOF a loooong time ago that people working in the franchise liked Hulme for the part and thought of his name, or "kicked it around" as Hulme put it. No one is in any talks because there is no villians and there is no script.

[Mr. Socko]

There are villians. The writer, Dave Goyer, says Two Face and The Joker are confirmed for the next 2 films.

[Lone Wolf]

There are villians. The writer, Dave Goyer, says Two Face and The Joker are confirmed for the next 2 films.

Thats what I keep telling him.

[spanish39]

even so,

though I never heard that as news anywhere, got a link?

What I still say stands as fact guys, don't get all bent up over it, come on, can't we all just get along?

[spanish39]

I seriously doubt people have sat down and discussed who they want yet. Once that has happened and it has been made offical news somewhere then we can argue the fina, and bad, points of those in te running. For now we are arguing about nothing except opinions and 1 fact lol.

[spanish39]

After hearing the news on the front page well, I'm thinking this scooper is either just trying to start HEAVY rumors or maybe he walked by when the name was nemtioned and missed any names before or after Bettany's. It's nice to see that Bale will have something to do with what happens in the next film though if ANY of this is even true.

But come on Jake Gylenhaal as Dent? This is a horrible choice and after the tone thats been set I just can't see that lame a$$ actor in a Batman film. Just cause he is all famous for being the gay cowboy he is mentioned? I doubt it this particular rumor holds any water. I'm sure Bettany is up for the role but I doubt this scooper heard anything, just rumor starter. Lets just hope Nolan doesn't see it and think it's actually a good choice.

So I'm to understand that Joker, Dent/Two-Face, and Talia will all be in this film at once? What is Talia all pissed now or something?

I love Depp's EARLY work, like F&L, and he is still my favorite actor with his own section in my DVD collection.....with that said I just don't want to see him as the Joker, it won't work for me and I won't see the Joker. Brody is just skinny and odd looking and is a great actor but I don't want to see him as The Joker. Bettany is just a great actor, but I don't really care to see him as The Joker.....I can live with it, but don't want it. I can see Eccelstone cause he is a great actor and looks the part, that would work, but I prefer Hulme casue he is completly unknown and I know he can act and look the role.

[BK]

Hmm, selective attention much? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Confused/006.gif

[elorenishii386]

Gylenhaal as Dent does bother me. Then again it is a rumor...something that should be taken lightly.

I can imagine Gylenhaal in another role....

[Lynxpro]

I can't believe so many people voted for Crispin Glover. You know what will cure each of them who voted that way? Rent *My Tutor*. That will Crispin each of them out.

I mean, that's about up there with voting for Graham Norton for the role.

[Two-Face]

I can't believe so many people voted for Crispin Glover. You know what will cure each of them who voted that way? Rent *My Tutor*. That will Crispin each of them out.

I mean, that's about up there with voting for Graham Norton for the role.


That poll was done before the release of BB. :mad:

[Nivek]

That "Batman lunch break" news item can fertilise my lawn, it's so full of it...

[Robin91939]

http://handson.provocateuse.com/images/photos/bradley_cooper_01.jpg
http://cache.eonline.com/Features/Features/Tube2005/StarsWeLove/Images/KitchenConfidential-17.Pb05.jpg
http://www.wethotamericansummer.com/a/picture-brad.jpg
http://todo-alias.iespana.es/secciones/losactores/bradleycooper/images/cooper01.jpg

Bradley Cooper? From Wedding Crashers...has this been suggested?

-R

[Lone Wolf]

http://handson.provocateuse.com/images/photos/bradley_cooper_01.jpg
http://cache.eonline.com/Features/Features/Tube2005/StarsWeLove/Images/KitchenConfidential-17.Pb05.jpg
http://www.wethotamericansummer.com/a/picture-brad.jpg
http://todo-alias.iespana.es/secciones/losactores/bradleycooper/images/cooper01.jpg

Bradley Cooper? From Wedding Crashers...has this been suggested?

-R

No he hasn't actually. I saw him in Wedding Crashers also, he was pretty decent. I never thought of him as Joker, until now.

[Abe Rush]

Actually, Bradley Cooper has been mentionned...

... then again, who hasen't?

[Brian2887]

He has been mentioned a few times, and personally, I think he's a very good choice for the role.. He played a smiling, mean villain in Wedding Crashers. Sure, not an enormously serious role, but he showed potential for bigger parts. He's got crazy eyes, a big smile, and a decent laugh.

I could see it.

[Lone Wolf]

He has been mentioned a few times, and personally, I think he's a very good choice for the role.. He played a smiling, mean villain in Wedding Crashers. Sure, not an enormously serious role, but he showed potential for bigger parts. He's got crazy eyes, a big smile, and a decent laugh.

I could see it.

Never saw them, but I agree with what you said. He definitely has potential.

[sinewave]

But come on Jake Gylenhaal as Dent? This is a horrible choice and after the tone thats been set I just can't see that lame a$$ actor in a Batman film. Just cause he is all famous for being the gay cowboy he is mentioned? I doubt it this particular rumor holds any water.

while i agree that gylenhaal isn't right for the role of dent, i do think he's an excellent actor, he's just too young for the role. trust me, he's an amazing actor. just watch donnie darko or moonlight mile if you don't believe me. he's done a lot great movies other than brokeback mountain.

[Brian2887]

More Bradley Cooper:

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/wedding_crashers/bradley_cooper/crasherprek.jpg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/contrib_pix/b/r/hds/bradley_cooper.jpg

http://us.tv1.yimg.com/tv.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/tv_pix/abc/alias_photos/bradley_cooper/alias.jpg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dreamworks_skg/catch_me_if_you_can/bradley_cooper/catchpre.jpg



Cooper is a darn good choice.. He completely slipped my mind..

[Mr Sensitive]

He is not skinny enough and too good-looking.

[Mister J]

This was on BOF today. I only included the parts people have been talking about.

Sequel Rumors Galore!
Author: Jett
Wednesday, February 8, 2006 - 1:07 PM CENTRAL TIME: Keep in mind that BOF does report rumor -- but rumor that has been looked into and comes from legit sources. Got some of that for you today, but please take with a grain of salt until I tell you to set it in stone. When I do the latter, go buy the hammer, chisel, and marble. OK, here goes…


No Harley Quinn, but Dr. Harleen Quinzel could be employed by Arkham Asylum. I was told the name of the potential actress (she's British and in her late 30s), but I’ll hold off right now…


It is really looking like Mr. Bettany will be Mr. J…

Don’t expect a “Nicholson-ized” Joker -- not in terms of how The Joker looks, acts, or is motivation. This will be something totally different, but true to the spirit of the character. His white skin will be natural (read: he doesn't wear white make-up), while the rest of his “Joker look” necessarily may not…

Jake Gyllenhaal as Dent -- where there is smoke, there’s fire. I’ll put it like that…

[The Last Meatbag]

I can't imagine Gyllenahl as Dent, he was pretty sinister in Donnie Darko though

[Brian2887]

I can't imagine Gyllenahl as Dent, he was pretty sinister in Donnie Darko though

Jarhead showed me he's got the chops for it.

[Brian2887]

This was on BOF today. I only included the parts people have been talking about.

Sequel Rumors Galore!
Author: Jett
Wednesday, February 8, 2006 - 1:07 PM CENTRAL TIME: Keep in mind that BOF does report rumor -- but rumor that has been looked into and comes from legit sources. Got some of that for you today, but please take with a grain of salt until I tell you to set it in stone. When I do the latter, go buy the hammer, chisel, and marble. OK, here goes…


No Harley Quinn, but Dr. Harleen Quinzel could be employed by Arkham Asylum. I was told the name of the potential actress (she's British and in her late 30s), but I’ll hold off right now…


It is really looking like Mr. Bettany will be Mr. J…

Don’t expect a “Nicholson-ized” Joker -- not in terms of how The Joker looks, acts, or is motivation. This will be something totally different, but true to the spirit of the character. His white skin will be natural (read: he doesn't wear white make-up), while the rest of his “Joker look” necessarily may not…

Jake Gyllenhaal as Dent -- where there is smoke, there’s fire. I’ll put it like that…

British, late 30s Harley? No idea...

I gotta say, I worry about Bettany as Joker. Can he drop the accent, pick up a creepy Joker voice including the laugh, and be convincing? He can be a great British villain? But an American one whose voice is so important? He might be able to do it, but I haven't seen it from him yet.

Plus, he's playing an albino killer in The Da Vinci Code.. Isn't one uber-white villain enough for a career?

[Lone Wolf]

British, late 30s Harley? No idea...

Naomi Watts pops up into my mind. Only a guess, or maybe Kate Winslet.

[Brian2887]

Naomi Watts pops up into my mind. Only a guess, or maybe Kate Winslet.

Kind of big names for what I assume is a small, supporting role.

Watts is Australian, I think. Elizabeth Hurley comes to mind. Minnie Driver.. Piper Perabo isn't British, but she's in Nolan's The Prestige, and seems like a good candidate..

[Lone Wolf]

Kind of big names for what I assume is a small, supporting role.

Watts is Australian, I think. Elizabeth Hurley comes to mind. Minnie Driver.. Piper Perabo isn't British, but she's in Nolan's The Prestige, and seems like a good candidate..

No, Watts was born in England and then raised in Australia.

Hurley and Driver should be kept in mind, but I don't think it will be Hurely only cause she's 40 and this rumor posted clearly states someone in her late thirties. Perabo is in fact starring in The Prestige, but she's not in her late thirties yet nor is she British.

Right now, I think Driver and Winslet are two big bets. Though Rachel Weisz is currently rumored for Talia by some, she does match up to who the actress might be.

Anyone else have someone in mind?

[Katsuro]

Kind of big names for what I assume is a small, supporting role.

A small role with potential for further development in sequels. They may just introduce her here, then bring her back later on in a larger role.

I still dont like the idea of a late 30's Harley. I was thinking more mid/late 20's. I just cant see Harley being older than Joker (Bettany and Hulme are like 35, Brody is 33).

[Mister J]

We can pretty much assume Joker will be captured and placed in Arkham in the film. I like the idea of having Dr. Quinzel being his treating physician. They could show her sympathizing with him. Like it was said earlier, larger development in a later sequel. She should look young though (late 20's, early 30's).

I do not like Gyllenhaal as Dent. Too young.

Bettany seems to be the man right now. Can't say I have a problem with it (especially from those manips).

[spanish39]

while i agree that gylenhaal isn't right for the role of dent, i do think he's an excellent actor, he's just too young for the role. trust me, he's an amazing actor. just watch donnie darko or moonlight mile if you don't believe me. he's done a lot great movies other than brokeback mountain.

Come on man lol, I know who Jake is, I have seen all his films INCLUDING Bubble boy (on tv for lack of bordem and curiosuty as to how the hell this guy came from that to where he is), I still think he is not a good actor and should not be in Batman, especially as Dent.

This whole Joker thing is giving me a headache. If he is just a really white guy who looks nothing like The Joker I will be pissed. I WANT A DAMN CRAZY CLOWN WHO KILLS PEOPLE! Not some British arms dealer who juses the name Joker!

[spanish39]

double post

[BK]

Jett clarified over at the BOF forums that he meant the skin would be more "natural" looking. Though the origin of how he got that pasty white skin is still left unanswered.

I'm going to take a guess that Joker, from the accident, was left completely white, including body hair. Something snaps in his head, and he takes up the image of a Joker card (theatricality comes into play here, just like Batman) by dying his hair and putting on lipstick. Probably something along those lines is what Nolan is going for. But personally, I'd prefer if his whole origin was left unsaid.

[The Chairman]

Jett clarified over at the BOF forums that he meant the skin would be more "natural" looking. Though the origin of how he got that pasty white skin is still left unanswered.

I'm going to take a guess that Joker, from the accident, was left completely white, including body hair. Something snaps in his head, and he takes up the image of a Joker card (theatricality comes into play here, just like Batman) by dying his hair and putting on lipstick. Probably something along those lines is what Nolan is going for. But personally, I'd prefer if his whole origin was left unsaid.

Me too. As for looks, I hope it's the traditional green hair and white skin. I'd like it too look a little different from Nicholson's though, maybe with the hair being black with green highlights (like B:TAS), and maybe a dark, kind of grayish white.

Anyway, since I'm nored, I'd like to post my update for my ever changing top five choices.

5. Sean Penn
http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/flipbooks/img/movies/people/p/penn_sean/3024123_10.jpg
He has yet to show his potential to play a truly sick and demented character like The Joker, but since Penn has already proven himself to be such a great actor, there's no doubt in my mind he can pull off The Joker. There's only one qualm I have with casting him, and that's what puts him at the bottom of my list: Sean Penn would never do a comic book movie. Still, I think he'd be an amazing Joker.

4. Paul Bettany
http://www.movie-gazette.com/directory/img/paul+bettany.jpg
I have, to date, only seen Bettany in one movie (Master & Commander), and I was initially against casting him for the part. However, the more pictures I see of him, including some excellent manips, the more I think Bettany could really pull off an excellent Joker. His roles in Firewall and The Da Vinci Code should make him more well known, and prove that he could do a good villian. Plus, he definitely has the eyes. He's not my top choice, but I wouldn't mind Bettany at all.

3. Adrien Brody
http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/personalidades/atores/adrien-brody/adrien-brody02.jpg
For a short while, Brody was actually my top pick. He has since fallen a bit, but I still think he'd be an awesome Joker. He's a great actor he's one of the few actors who has The Joker's long chin and nose, and he's an Oscar winner. But most importantly, he's actually expressed interest in doing the role. My only qualm is that he's yet to show us that he can convincingly pull off an over the top lunatic like The Joker. He proved that he can do quiet creepy in The Village, but he has yet to show us he can do lively and energetic creepy. That being said, there's no doubt in my mind that he could do the part.

2. Tim Roth
http://spectacle.provocateuse.com/images/spectacles/tim_roth_01.jpg
Man, could he do this part. For the longest time, Roth was my top choice, unil my head told me that it would be a safer bet to go with someone who's actually in the running. Roth is such an amazing actor, especially when it comes to playing villians. Only his good friend Gary Oldman (aka Jim Gordon) is better than Roth at playing villians. He's a bit old for the part (he's turning 45 this year), but he has far more than enough talent to pull off the role.

1. Johnny Depp
http://purcine.free.fr/stars/d/depp_johnny/depp_johnny-Johnny%20Depp.jpg
C'mon, he's the man. If there's one actor who can do just about everything, it's Johnny Depp. He proved in Once Upon A Time In Mexico (and to a lesser extent, Charlie & The Chocolate Factory) that he can do creepy, and his grin as Captain Jack Sparrow would look so awesome as The Joker. He would define The Joker for a new genration. In reality, Depp probably won't get it because he's too big a name, but the mere fact that he's rumored for the part makes him my top choice for the role.

[spanish39]

That would suck still, he should be reconfigured, not play dress up with lipstick and ware regular clothes, I bet he wouldn't even be in purple. I remember way back when the rumor was that he would be a British arms dealer and not e The Joker we have grown to know and love.

Like I posted before, DAVID GOYER HIMSELF said that when it comes time to do the Joker he would not let us down because of the '89 film, cause he is himself a fan. I seriously doubt that we will get this stuff from BOF. I'm almost poistive we will get The Joker we have grown to know and love.

Rumors are rumors....like The Reaper.....like the red baron....like Clint Eastwood as Mayor of Gotham.

It's way to early to specualte and they don't have the license to make up to much more stuff like the origin film. Remember he is already made by the end of the "Begins" and Batman has no idea who he is, so he obviously has nothing to do with Joker's origin, we won't get the red hood or anything from "The Killing Joke". As far as I am concerned his origin is going to be a mystery still, in film and in print. We should not speculate som much or we will drive ourselves crazy lol.

[Katsuro]

spanish39, no one has ever at any point in time said that Joker would be a British arms dealer. It was PENGUIN who was (still is) rumored to be a british arms dealer. You really need to read this stuff more carefully before jumping to conclusions. Next you'll be telling me you're upset that Bob Hoskins is a Joker candidate and you dont think Harvey Dent should be played by a late 30's British actress.

[spanish39]

You can't say NO ONE at any point in time has said that cause I clearly remember reading it here. It's not my fault if someone else miscommunicates information from BOF to SHH! but I don't have all the free time int the world to read all the news on all the Batman sites like some people, just this one. Besides what do you care if I have the wrong idea? Is that any reason to be rude and saracatic when you tell me to get my facts straight before jumping to conclusions? If thats the idea I had then thats the opinion I had of it so I posted it wether it's the fact or not. There are much nicer ways of putting things besides being an a$$ ya know. Maybe next time you post towards me you won't be so negative about it. Simply tell me that it's not the right facts and nicley tell me what it is without trying to show me up or put me in my place, I was misinformed this time.

I don't know why everyone buys in too all this stuff, you all think Penguin, Joker, Two-Face, Earl, Maroni, and maybe Talia will all be in the next film together?....come on now, thats just too much and wishful thinking now. I could see Joker as the villian, DENT as a lawyer (not two-face), and a cameo of Penguin (very brief) talking to Earl, and Hoskins as Maroni or Thorne maybe as the mob boss in the background as a secondary villian, but even thats all stretching it. It's my dream to see all the villans attacking Batman and Gotham all at once like a comic, just like everyone else, but as of now it is only speculation and wishful thinking.

All I'm saying is don't get your hopes up, thats all I'm saying nothing more or less so please don't jump me with words that I'm pi$$ing on the party here please.

[Katsuro]

don't know why everyone buys in too all this stuff, you all think Penguin, Joker, Two-Face, Earl, Maroni, and maybe Talia will all be in the next film together

The Talia rumor is most likely false, and Two-Face isn't unitl the third film. That leaves us with Joker, Penguin, Earle, Maroni, and Black Mask which you forgot to mention. It's entirely possible that they could be villains in the next film and work just fine together, although I see no reason to bring Earle back. Save Talia for a later film and bring Ra's back with her.

[spanish39]

Like I said, I would love to see all of them but I personaly won't get my hopes up till it gets closer, it would be great. I did forget Mask in that long list of hopefuls, I think cause I have only read it once after that post or something, anyway,

I also would love to see Black Mask on film....along with Hush of course cause Hush is a bad a$$, but mask seems to new to be on film already, I would presume anyway. It just seems like a lot but would be nice if written properly. My only concern is that Joker won't get as much screen time as he deserves in my opinion if he has to share with Batman and all the other hopefuls, if it does all fall together than I would hope Joker would be #1 king and end up at the top at the end without dying or having to guess if he is dead, (like Ra's). One thing that would not make sense for Mask is if this is right after "Begins" than Mask does not really fit into the mythos of Batman's early work. I see Joker and Dent and maybe Penguin, but Mask would not make sense unless he was called by his real name and did not wear the mask, maybe a hentchman or something who later down the road is the guy who becomes tha Black Mask. But I don't think they have creative control over that stuff, (like Raimi and Spider-Man), how they take on a life of their own. DC and WB is very strong like that with their films and materil....just a though or observation or whatever.

Also, I just remember all the B.S. (even from Jett) way back when I first came here, all the rumors like Eastwood and Reaper and Clock King and Red Baron and on and on....I bought into alot of it so thats why I am so reluctant to not buy into it this time. Not that everyone thought it was B.S. at first, it just tuned out that way in the long run. So please don't take it personal if I play the skeptic to such wonderful news because I have been bitten by the Batman rumor bug too many times in the last 3 years to get my hopes up...again though...it would be great :up:

[Shoemeister]

I'm very glad to hear that Paul Bettany's name is in the front running for the Joker (as I would much rather see him than Lachy Hulme), but it's STILL no contest for me...

:joker: VINCENT CASSEL AS JOKER! :joker:http://www.sneakpeektv.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/vincent_cassel_00290010.jpg

[a22div7]

:joker: Joker is Vince!:)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4296/vincethejoker3jt.jpg

[Mr Sensitive]

That's also my opinion, Shoemeister.

[spanish39]

he is cool, but and a great actor, like him in Ocean's 12, but he does have a very heavy French accent that would probably be hard to mask, but I never know so.....I bet Nolan and everyone have not even looked him up yet.

[rich41569]

I grabbed some pictures of Mark Hamill that look cool. http://www.msnusers.com/loqdakj7rojp4hph7eg2pt0m50/Documents/Pictures%2FMARK%201a.jpg http://www.msnusers.com/loqdakj7rojp4hph7eg2pt0m50/Documents/Pictures%2FMARK%202a.jpg http://www.msnusers.com/loqdakj7rojp4hph7eg2pt0m50/Documents/Pictures%2FMARK%207a.jpg http://www.msnusers.com/loqdakj7rojp4hph7eg2pt0m50/Documents/Pictures%2FMARK%206a.jpg

[tecnowraith]

I am not it has been mentioned (do not have to look back at the threads) is that after watching the Green Mile last night, another actor should be considered. Sam Rockwell! His performace so nutty and insane even his look semi-screamed the Joker.

http://www.cinemaclock.com/images/people-304-samrockwell.jpg http://www.creative-live.com/peranhalter/darsteller/zapod.jpg

[StorminNorman]

I am not it has been mentioned (do not have to look back at the threads) is that after watching the Green Mile last night, another actor should be considered. Sam Rockwell! His performace so nutty and insane even his look semi-screamed the Joker.

http://www.cinemaclock.com/images/people-304-samrockwell.jpg http://www.creative-live.com/peranhalter/darsteller/zapod.jpg

I really like Rockwell, he is tied with Brody at second place for me. Bettany though just owns the role IMO.

[Mr. Socko]

I'm very glad to hear that Paul Bettany's name is in the front running for the Joker (as I would much rather see him than Lachy Hulme), but it's STILL no contest for me...

:joker: VINCENT CASSEL AS JOKER! :joker:http://www.sneakpeektv.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/vincent_cassel_00290010.jpg
Another great choice. That picture symbolizes the Joker perfectly, it screams out Joker and he's not even in any prosthetics, makeup, etc. I saw a great manip from that picture once but I don't know where it is.

[Eddie Dean]

I am not it has been mentioned (do not have to look back at the threads) is that after watching the Green Mile last night, another actor should be considered. Sam Rockwell! His performace so nutty and insane even his look semi-screamed the Joker.

http://www.cinemaclock.com/images/people-304-samrockwell.jpg http://www.creative-live.com/peranhalter/darsteller/zapod.jpg
I can't see him as The Joker, but he would make a great Creeper.

[rich41569]

http://www.msnusers.com/loqdakj7rojp4hph7eg2pt0m50/Documents/Pictures%2FMARK%201a.jpg http://www.msnusers.com/loqdakj7rojp4hph7eg2pt0m50/Documents/Pictures%2FMARK%202a.jpg http://www.msnusers.com/loqdakj7rojp4hph7eg2pt0m50/Documents/Pictures%2FMARK%207a.jpg http://www.msnusers.com/loqdakj7rojp4hph7eg2pt0m50/Documents/Pictures%2FMARK%206a.jpg

[rich41569]

There are a lot of posts for actors that look like Joker but not many of them can act the part. Mark Hamill proves he can deliver both qualities. Vincent Cassel looks great but he's freakin' French. They would have to hire Mark Hamill anyway just to dub in the voice. The pics I posted of Mark Hamill look pretty good. If you notice the poll at the top of the thread Mark comes in fourth. He should have an opportunity to show what he can really do with the character.

[SickBoy]

Here are a couple quick manips I did of a Bettany pic that I found. The costume and hair of course are not right for the movie but I liked his facial expression here. I am going to play around with photoshop and do some more manips I think, they are so much fun!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/Christoehair/creepy_1.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/Christoehair/creepy_3.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/Christoehair/creepy_2.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/Christoehair/creepy_4.jpg

[Katsuro]

Is that really Bettany? Funny, doens't quite look like him.

[Supercash]

:hq: :joker: :hq: :joker: I think the joker should be dark but also attractive in a wierd sense coz then u can get the link of the joker and harley quinn

[Yoruai]

While the darker look for Joker is cool ocasionaly I don't believe it's necissary. For the most part the comics show him brightly colored with a look of lunicy. The thing about the Joker is his actions and mannerisms. Even though he looks kooky, when written well he comes off sinister and frightenting. It is the dichotomy of his apperance and his dreadful deeds that make him such a great villian. The twisting of a supposed delightful icon like the jester speaks volumes. I think the role will best be honored by the skill of the actor more so than the look.

[Mr. Socko]

I just wonder what name they're give the Joker, I mean real name. Right now, Jack Napier is the only name we've ever been given and it is also used in TAS aswell as Batman '89 but I don't count Batman because it's pretty much been overruled. TAS is canon, so I'm thinking they will use Jack Napier or either find away to not give him a real name. It would be possible for him to start out with the nickname Joker before the chemical incident.

[Brian2887]

I doubt he'll have a "real name." He's going to be Joker throughout. No origin. No background. No name.

That's what I'm hopin' for, anyway.

[Mister J]

I don't want a definative origin. At most, just give mutliple scenarios.

[Katsuro]

I just wonder what name they're give the Joker, I mean real name. Right now, Jack Napier is the only name we've ever been given and it is also used in TAS aswell as Batman '89 but I don't count Batman because it's pretty much been overruled. TAS is canon, so I'm thinking they will use Jack Napier or either find away to not give him a real name. It would be possible for him to start out with the nickname Joker before the chemical incident.

I dont get what you mean. Canon with what? TAS is it's own contintuity, just like the old films are, the new films are, and the mainstream comics are (elseworlds tales aren't canon with the regular comics). TAS isn't canon with the comics, it's its own thing.

As for Joker's real name. Do like the comics, and dont say. He's already the Joker by the end of the first movie (the idea of him using a calling card and calling himself the Joker before the accident is ridiculous). If any background is shown on him, it should be nothing more than a very brief flashback to him falling in the chemicals, nothing more.

[spidermanfreak22]

http://walford.smugmug.com/photos/31974838-M.jpg

http://walford.smugmug.com/photos/32090031-M.jpg

I have to go with the triple Chris

Chris...tian Bale as Batman/Bruce Wayne
Chris...topher Nolan as Director

and Chris...topher Eccleston as Jack Napier/Joker.

He is unknown enough for people to go "Who?" When you mention his name. He can pull off the Jack Napier role (see the film Let Him Have It) and can play funny and sadistic (Shallow Grave)

He's the Joker. Cast him.

[Cartoonics]

I am not it has been mentioned (do not have to look back at the threads) is that after watching the Green Mile last night, another actor should be considered. Sam Rockwell! His performace so nutty and insane even his look semi-screamed the Joker.

http://www.cinemaclock.com/images/people-304-samrockwell.jpg http://www.creative-live.com/peranhalter/darsteller/zapod.jpg

Watch "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind" and you'll see that Rockwell's got a pretty solid range for the Joker. Sure, he could play the Creeper instead, but I don't expect we'll be seeing the Creeper on film. A running bit part for Jack Ryder could set it up, though.

Back to the topic at hand, since there are only a handful of Rockwell supporters here (he's not even on the poll): Paul Bettany, Jude Law, and Johnny Depp would all make solid Jokers. I think that Jason Lee could probably give us a Hamill-esque Joker, but he could cross into the cartoonish if they're not careful.

And not to rag on people's favorites, but Adrien Brody and Crispin Glover are both poor choices. Brody is a good actor, but in every role he plays, he looks like he's about to burst into tears. He's a human version of Droopy the Dog. And Glover might look good for the part, but I don't think he can do the voice, and I suspect he would be a pain in the ass to work with. Ask Robert Zemeckis. George McFly was dead in Back to the Future II and recast in III because Glover demanded more money. Let Glover do his Charlie's Angels sequels in peace.

[Nivek]

... and I suspect he would be a pain in the ass to work with. Ask Robert Zemeckis. George McFly was dead in Back to the Future II and recast in III because Glover demanded more money. Let Glover do his Charlie's Angels sequels in peace.

Your wrong, he was recast by a guy in make-up (trying to imitate Glovers voice) in the beginning, and they reused footage of him without his permission later in the film, you dont even think you seen his character in 3.

If your going to slag the guy, at least know the films better.

[Mr. Socko]

No origin works for me. He could just start out as the Joker.

[antmanx68]

I'd like an origin at least in flashbacks... just to really hammer home the fact that this is in no way related to Jack Nicholson's Joker.

p.s. This is something you guys might get a kick out of if you havent seen it yet.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2006/02/crispingloverhigh.html

[Mr. Socko]

LMAO. Glover musta hit a dime bag before he went on the show.

[The Chairman]

Glover was quite wacko that night.

[Cartoonics]

Your wrong, he was recast by a guy in make-up (trying to imitate Glovers voice) in the beginning, and they reused footage of him without his permission later in the film, you dont even think you seen his character in 3.

If your going to slag the guy, at least know the films better.

Apologies to Crispin Glover if I've got this wrong. Wikipedia (not the world's most reliable source, I know) confirms the story as I understood it.

Glover declined to return as George McFly because he wanted more money. THEN they recast Jeffrey Weissman as George McFly. George being dead in the alternate present of Biff's Casino conveniently minimized the character's screen time.

Yes, there were still some recycled Glover footage in Part II, which he sued Spielberg over.

And finally, George McFly does appear in Part III, though it's only a brief appearance at the end. It's Jeffrey Weissman as the confidant, successful sci-fi writer that George became as a result of Marty's travels.

So there is the story as I understand it. I haven't watched Back To The Future lately, but I'd say I know the films pretty well (at least well enough to know the ending of Part III, which gives me one up on you).

If you can point me to another account that says Crispin Glover was truly the victim here, please correct me. Otherwise, I stand by my Glover-bashing.

[LadyVader]

Watch "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind" and you'll see that Rockwell's got a pretty solid range for the Joker. Sure, he could play the Creeper instead, but I don't expect we'll be seeing the Creeper on film. A running bit part for Jack Ryder could set it up, though.

Back to the topic at hand, since there are only a handful of Rockwell supporters here (he's not even on the poll): Paul Bettany, Jude Law, and Johnny Depp would all make solid Jokers. I think that Jason Lee could probably give us a Hamill-esque Joker, but he could cross into the cartoonish if they're not careful.

And not to rag on people's favorites, but Adrien Brody and Crispin Glover are both poor choices. Brody is a good actor, but in every role he plays, he looks like he's about to burst into tears. He's a human version of Droopy the Dog. And Glover might look good for the part, but I don't think he can do the voice, and I suspect he would be a pain in the ass to work with. Ask Robert Zemeckis. George McFly was dead in Back to the Future II and recast in III because Glover demanded more money. Let Glover do his Charlie's Angels sequels in peace.

I am also a Rockwell supporter. :up: The more I think about it the more I like the idea.

[Brian2887]

1. Tim Roth
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/Brian2887/1roth.jpg

2. Paul Bettany
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/ifc_films/gangster_no__1/paul_bettany/gangster.jpg

3. Jason Lee
http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/dogma4.jpg

4. Will Arnett
http://us.tv1.yimg.com/tv.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/tv_pix/fox/arrested_development/will_arnett/ep_peteriovino.jpg

5. Lachy Hulme
http://archive.gamespy.com/interviews/february03/matrixactors/lachy_s.jpg

[DCW]

http://www.ilcibicida.com/images/timroth.jpg

Reminds me alot of the Killing Joke. :up:

Still going for Bettany though.

[antmanx68]

Allen Cumming or Paul Bettany, Also I believe Sam Rockwell would rock it well as the Joker.

[The Chairman]

Bettany would indeed rock.

Here's my top five:

1) Paul Bettany
http://www.movieguide.co.nz/images/pics/Paul%20Bettany.jpg

2. Tim Roth
http://www.tim-roth.com/images/road96.jpg

3. Adrien Brody
http://www.estoeshollywood.com/images/noticias%20de%20portada/AdrienBrody3.jpg

4. Johnny Depp
http://www.arnadal.no/film/actors/images/depp_johnny_goldenglobe2004.jpg

5. Chuck Norris (just kidding)
http://www.nndb.com/people/152/000024080/norrris1.jpg

2,000 posts! Yippe!

[Lone Wolf]

5. Chuck Norris (just kidding)
http://www.nndb.com/people/152/000024080/norrris1.jpg

Thank god....

[Mr. Socko]

Bettany would indeed rock.

Here's my top five:

1) Paul Bettany
http://www.movieguide.co.nz/images/pics/Paul%20Bettany.jpg

2. Tim Roth
http://www.tim-roth.com/images/road96.jpg

3. Adrien Brody
http://www.estoeshollywood.com/images/noticias%20de%20portada/AdrienBrody3.jpg

4. Johnny Depp
http://www.arnadal.no/film/actors/images/depp_johnny_goldenglobe2004.jpg

5. Chuck Norris (just kidding)
http://www.nndb.com/people/152/000024080/norrris1.jpg

2,000 posts! Yippe!

Those are my top 4 too, just not in that order.

[The Chairman]

Those are my top 4 too, just not in that order.

My actual 5th pick is this guy:

http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/personalidades/atores/sean-penn/sean-penn01.jpg

[trustyside-kick]

Vincent Cassel, `nuff said.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/dhunter22/VincentCassel.jpg

[StorminNorman]

Vincent Cassel, `nuff said.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/dhunter22/VincentCassel.jpg

Is French, Nuff said.

[The Chairman]

Is French, Nuff said.

I don't know why, but that really made me laugh. :up: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[sinewave]

Vincent Cassel, `nuff said.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/dhunter22/VincentCassel.jpg

he looks the part.

[Brian2887]

I doubt highly he could lose the French accent..

[The Chairman]

I doubt highly he could lose the French accent..

Me too.

[StorminNorman]

He's like Mr. French accent - its not like a British accent that can be somewhat easily hidden, its like in your face, pass the smelly cheese, wheres Pepe Le pu type of french accent.

I will admitt he has the look though.

[sinewave]

he looks like tim sale's joker.

[Brian2887]

I'm watching Gangsta #1 right now.. The scene where Bettany tortures and murders a man to music.. Add a little flamboyance and energy, and it screamed Joker.

[The Last Meatbag]

Bettany is my number one choice for Joker

[StorminNorman]

I'm watching Gangsta #1 right now.. The scene where Bettany tortures and murders a man to music.. Add a little flamboyance and energy, and it screamed Joker.

I concur sir

[The Chairman]

Bettany seems to be the new fan favorite, I guess.

[The Last Meatbag]

Much better than Crispin Glover.

[StorminNorman]

Bettany seems to be the new fan favorite, I guess.

and I am loving it.

[The Chairman]

Much better than Crispin Glover.

Hey, don;t knock Glover. He's awesome.

Still, I'm glad Bettany's getting the part...hopefully.

[StorminNorman]

Hey, don;t knock Glover. He's awesome.

Still, I'm glad Bettany's getting the part...hopefully.

Glover may or may not be a great actor - but he is a git.

[The Last Meatbag]

Reminds me too much of McFly :o








LORRAINE......

[The Chairman]

I have a soft spot for George McFly.

[StorminNorman]

I have a soft spot for George McFly.

But Glover is still a punk.

[The Last Meatbag]

I can think of Crispin Glover as the sad stand up comedian who tried to provide for his wife but turned his life into hell with one bad decision, but I cant think of him as the exuberant, crazy, wacky, playful, messed up, homocidal maniac the Joker is

[Mr. Socko]

His role in BTTF Part 1 is the best, but he's still a nut job.

[spanish39]

Well at least Goyer and Nolan have already written a treatment for Batman Begins, tooo bad they won't be writing the actual screenplay. That means anything could happen to Joker now, everything is up in the air again, meaning you could die in the end again. Goyer promised us he would not let us down in his own words with Joker, but now who knows.

[sasquatchs]

Nolan doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who goes off on his own flights of fancy to the detriment of the characters ala Burton. It seems to me Nolan and Bale have alot of respect for the source, even if they need to change things slightly, I trust them.

[spanish39]

change can be good, but no killing the character this time is all I ask

[Reverend_Chaos]

Paul Bettany should definitely be cast as the Joker. I can't think of a person more perfectly suited to the role of Joker this time around. I think he fits perfectly with the caliber of the existing cast which was top notch.

[Eddie Dean]

Christopher Eccleston or Paul Bettany

[StorminNorman]

change can be good, but no killing the character this time is all I ask

you dont have to worry about that - killing the Joker would be a stupid, stupid move, neither Nolan or Nolan is stupid.

[Digital_Ashes]

bump

[Logan Howlett]

Mark Hamill all the way!

[StorminNorman]

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/StorminNormanTho/0133445copy.jpg

A manip for Bettany.

[batman7289]

I think Nolan should go with another actor not well known. So I am so not wanting Jake Gyhenall to play joker. Maybe Liev Schriber. And Peguin should be played by Bob Hoskins. Not a comic joker or comic joker like the ****ty ones Tim Burton made. I loved Batman Begins it was more darker and "scarier" Thaks

[The Chairman]

I think Nolan should go with another actor not well known. So I am so not wanting Jake Gyhenall to play joker. Maybe Liev Schriber. And Peguin should be played by Bob Hoskins. Not a comic joker or comic joker like the ****ty ones Tim Burton made. I loved Batman Begins it was more darker and "scarier" Thaks

Gyllenhaal and Schreiber are in the running for Two-Face, not The Joker. Gyllenhaal, personally, has always struck as me someone who can do a great Joker, but he's too young. He's also too young for Two-Face. Schreiber is perfect for Two-Face but not right in any way for The Joker. And yes, Hoskins should play The Penguin, but rumor has it that he doesn't want it.

[Brian2887]

Personally, I think Gyllenhaal has the ability to be any of the three villains.. I just hope he lands one.

[batman7289]

I would love to see a pure evil, and diabolical Joker on the big screen, if he is choosen next for the sequel. (I'd rather see other villian first.) But if they went with The Joker I like the look of him in the Batman Dead End Short Film:


http://www.starland.com/news/2003/images/030724joker.jpg

I think that is a great look with the straight jacket, but eventually get him out of the straight jacket and into the famous purple attire, but not a bright purple, more of a dark purple. And of course he would have to be insanely funny, not too campy or over the top, but just insane to the point where your like whoa, and it sends shivers down your spine when your watching him on the screen.

I am not really sure who I would go with for an actor on The Joker, I will get back to you on that one.

Great official Joker thread by the way.

Fantastic PIcs where did you get the pic from?

[JokerPimp]

Hoskins is too old for Penguin. Plus he's not really that popular anymore, I'm all for Phillip Seymour Hoffman

[Mr Sensitive]

Fantastic PIcs where did you get the pic from?

That great pic of the Joker came from Dead End.

Collora got his character spot-on.

[Ronny Shade]

I'm gonna go ahead and throw in a new Joker suggestion because I'm getting tired of all the suggestions out there right now.

JP Manoux.
http://www.jkeith.net/wml2005/images/manoux.jpg
He's mostly a TV actor. But I saw him in Starship Troopers 2 (yes, I saw Starship Troopers 2...and it wasn't even that bad!) And he delivered a great performance. I could totally see him pulling off the Joker.


Now just because I say this it doesn't mean I expect him to get the part. I'm just trying to stir up the pot a little.

[Timstuff]

DEPP DANGIT!

There, my quotia is filled for now.

[The Last Meatbag]

Joker from dead end should NOT be what the Joker should look like in the movie :o

[StorminNorman]

That great pic of the Joker came from Dead End.

Collora got his character spot-on.

He did the actual character of Joker very well, but I do not like the Cat eyes nor the eye brows nor the toxic green hair.

[Ronny Shade]

Dead End Joker was horrible.

made me want to barf.

[Nivek]

Dead End Joker was horrible.

made me want to barf.


But Bettany with Lime Green hair wearing lipstick screams more like The Joker to you?

I really dont understand why Batman fans dont want characters to look faithful. DE Joker was faithful to the appearence in the comics recently. Some of these Bettany manips and comments lead me to believe that some of you would be content with him as is, with Pale blotchy skin, lime green 'copper bowl" hair, wearing red lipstick and a plain suit. That aint the Joker, he resembles the character in DE more along the lines of the source material. He isn't a Drag-esqe Eddie Izzard look-a-like frowner.

[StorminNorman]

But Bettany with Lime Green hair wearing lipstick screams more like The Joker to you?

I really dont understand why Batman fans dont want characters to look faithful. DE Joker was faithful to the appearence in the comics recently. Some of these Bettany manips and comments lead me to believe that some of you would be content with him as is, with Pale blotchy skin, lime green 'copper bowl" hair, wearing red lipstick and a plain suit. That aint the Joker, he resembles the character in DE more along the lines of the source material. He isn't a Drag-esqe Eddie Izzard look-a-like frowner.

We do manips with what we are given so the hair comment is flat out stupid - come on, ITS HAIR! It does grow, change, can be cut, can be extended that is not an issue. I want the Joker to be Joker White, not blotchy skin - just because the artest that did the most professional Bettany manips used that idea does not mean that all Bettany fans want it that way. Bettany does have the face shape for the Joker, when you get sideways shots on his face his chin is quite noticable and has that Joker curve.

Also just saw some clips of the movie Dogville and Bettany uses an American accent through the entire film and does a very good job of it. Asked my sister to guess where Bettany is from and she said America. So Bettany haters put that issue to rest.

Also there have been instances of the Joker wearing lipstick - look at TDKR. I have no problem with the joker using lipstick or even dying his hair by himself., I do oppose him wearing white make up however.

[Maxwell Smart]

I don't really like the lipstick idea. To make his lips turning red more realistically, you could go for a more crimson-esque color, and perhaps make his lips look a bit weathered, almost disfigured. Bloated. Enflamed.

As for the hair... suspension of disbelief. I mean you do have to have a little... and I don't think it would be too big of a stretch that his hair turns green.

[StorminNorman]

I don't really like the lipstick idea. To make his lips turning red more realistically, you could go for a more crimson-esque color, and perhaps make his lips look a bit weathered, almost disfigured. Bloated. Enflamed.

As for the hair... suspension of disbelief. I mean you do have to have a little... and I don't think it would be too big of a stretch that his hair turns green.

I just dont think that the Joker using lipstick or dying his hair hurts the character at all. The white skin though is a must IMO.

[Katsuro]

I just dont think that the Joker using lipstick or dying his hair hurts the character at all. The white skin though is a must IMO.

You know, it wasn't until recently that I realized, if they're going for realism, Joker HAS to dye his hair. While a chemical could conceivably turn hair green, there's no way it could keep it from growing back in it's original color, could it? I'm not hair dye expert or anything, but is it even possible to dye your hair so it always grows back that new color? I dont think there is. I dont know why I never thought of that. Perhaps, Joker's hair is turned green, and he likes the color so he dyes it? Honestly, I hope they just never go into it. I'm really hoping Joker just looks the way he looks, and that's it. He could dye his hair and wear lipstick, or it could be naturaly. it should simply never be stated, left up to the imagination.

[Mr Sensitive]

White face, green hair, red lips.

[spanish39]

there is way too much insight on these pages lmao. Who cares if The Joker dyes his hair, come on guys it's just a freaking character. No one thinks about this kind of stuff except for the posters here lol. Do we need to know what if Joker wears boxers or briefs too?

[Lone Wolf]

there is way too much insight on these pages lmao. Who cares if The Joker dyes his hair, come on guys it's just a freaking character. No one thinks about this kind of stuff except for the posters here lol. Do we need to know what if Joker wears boxers or briefs too?

The green hair is part of the character, like the horns to Batmans mask is part of why he's calls himself Batman. I for one, DO care. I don't think Tim Burton had the same thought when he made Joker appear in 89, he knew it was one of the characters attributes, and kept true to the comics.

I'm sure Nolan is going to do the same.

[StorminNorman]

The hair, lips, face need to be a certain color - its a big part of the character. As Kat said though, there doesnt need to be an explination about it though.

[Lone Wolf]

The hair, lips, face need to be a certain color - its a big part of the character. As Kat said though, there doesnt need to be an explination about it though.

Exactly.

[Mr Sensitive]

The green hair is part of the character, like the horns to Batmans mask is part of why he's calls himself Batman. I for one, DO care. I don't think Tim Burton had the same thought when he made Joker appear in 89, he knew it was one of the characters attributes, and kept true to the comics.

I'm sure Nolan is going to do the same.

Exactly what I was thinking, Batman. :joker:

[Lone Wolf]

Exactly what I was thinking, Batman. :joker:

Good thinking then, I mean why change the characters appearence all of a sudden? Theres no need for it, and I'm sure Nolan has no intention on doing so.

[captain_jimbo]

I think Jack Nicholson did a great job in 1989, but they should try something different this time.

My choices would be Johnny Depp, or even Michael Keaton.

[Lone Wolf]

I think Jack Nicholson did a great job in 1989, but they should try something different this time.

Yeah, they shouldn't make this Joker resemble Nicholson's. Infact, Nicholson didn't have the big nose when he played him like in the books. I think it would be a great advantage to use that, and add more to the creepiness that was said he'd be in the sequel.

[Boom]

Still going with Depp.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/weinstein_company/the_libertine/_group_photos/samantha_morton2.jpg

[Ronny Shade]

Depp's too spaced

[Comicfilmer]

Dead End Joker didn't work. Aside from the bright green hair, the very forced laugh, and the funky eyebrows, he was waaaaay too short. Joker is supposed to be around 6' 5" or so. Dead End's Joker was like 5' 4." Terrible casting.

[Ronny Shade]

Dead End Joker didn't work. Aside from the bright green hair, the very forced laugh, and the funky eyebrows, he was waaaaay too short. Joker is supposed to be around 6' 5" or so. Dead End's Joker was like 5' 4." Terrible casting.
plus he was a kinda bad actor.

[Shawn Wayne]

I think Jack Nicholson did a great job in 1989, but they should try something different this time.

My choices would be Johnny Depp, or even Michael Keaton.


Keaton? For real? Would you have had Reeve come back as Luthor??? I would be open to this if he hadn't already kicked some ass as Batman, but that should take him out of the picture

[spanish39]

People who think Joker should be Keaton are smokin' rocks! lmao, come on guys get real with that one....though I have heard it since I have been here....which means they don't plan on stopping the smoking of rocks anytime soon.

[Ronny Shade]

Joel Schumacher as the joker!

:D

[Lone Wolf]

People who think Joker should be Keaton are smokin' rocks! lmao, come on guys get real with that one....though I have heard it since I have been here....which means they don't plan on stopping the smoking of rocks anytime soon.

Keaton isn't even being considered anymore...

[Ronny Shade]

was he ever? seriously, I mean?

[terry78]

^Hey, he was Beetlejuice. I don't see why not.

[Ronny Shade]

I have a question.


Can Bettany do an American accent?

[Lone Wolf]

was he ever? seriously, I mean?

His name was thrown around for Joker, just because he played Batman before. They were talking about how it would be if he switched from hero to villain. Personally, I disliked the thought of it. I want someone new like Bettany or Hulme, or hell even a NEW candidate for the role. Just to see which can potray the Joker Nolan wants to bring on screen.

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

Well I picked Jim Carrey, he's the best for the job even though he was already The Riddler, but realisticly he would not be considered. So my second choice is Crispen Glover.:batman: VS.:joker:

[Lone Wolf]

Well I picked Jim Carrey, he's the best for the job even though he was already The Riddler, but realisticly he would not be considered. So my second choice is Crispen Glover.:batman: VS.:joker:

Carrey would be a decent Joker IMO, but it'll never happen.

Glover isn't a candidate anymore, he said so himself months ago.

[Two-Face]

Jim Carrey as Joker?? ah come on he's good actor but no way he should be cast as Joker, plus when WB say "it's reboot" than cast Carrey for BB2 and people think it's a prequel and it's Batman 6 which isn't.

[The Chairman]

If Carrey had not been The Riddler, I'd most likely want him for The Joker. I mean look at all the amazing dramatic films he's done. He should've gotten Oscar nominations for The Truman Show and Eternal Sunshine On The Spotless Mind (I only saw bits & pieces of both films, but from what I saw, he was excellent), and he has just about all the other essentials needed for the part. I mean, The Mask is just a non evil version of The Joker with green skin. He's got the height, the grin, the build, the face and the charisma. The man would've been awesome.

Now I hate Schumacher even more for casting Carrey in BF.

[Mr Sensitive]

He would've been perfect indeed.

[dbrm]

WILLEM DAFOE:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5135/jfd7ag.jpg

[Keyser Sushi]

WILLEM DAFOE:

He was in the running back in 1989. He'd have been damn good, but that ship has sailed.

As has the Goblin-Glider...

[Lone Wolf]

He was in the running back in 1989. He'd have been damn good, but that ship has sailed.

As has the Goblin-Glider...

Amen to that brother.

[The Chairman]

He was in the running back in 1989. He'd have been damn good, but that ship has sailed.

As has the Goblin-Glider...

:up:

That being said, if Dafoe and Jim Carrey had not already been in comic book movies as villians, they'd probably be my top picks.

[str8raz0r]

I have a question.


Can Bettany do an American accent?

I think so. Wasn't he in some tennis movie w/ Kirsten Dunst where he was American?

[Katsuro]

He did a good American accent for about 5 minutes in Firewall, and I hear he does one the entire time in Dogville. So yeah, he can do an American accent.