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I AM THE NIGHT
03-15-2005, 02:59 PM
The new films need to set a new standard and be total opposites of anything gone before.
I disagree. I think the new movies should do new things, but not nessicarily be complete oppisites of the past films,especialy on the things they did right.

RedIsNotBlue
03-15-2005, 03:06 PM
Well for me Crispin Glover has the creepy look...but I just don't like his voice for the part and when I look at him I just don't see the Joker in him. Lachy Hulme...I just have a feeling about him.

P. Cushing
03-15-2005, 03:15 PM
So I really don't think what roles actors have taken on in life should prevent them from doing other roles, unless of course they can't act,
Exactly! That's what I've been trying to tell everyone here for years!

The Techno Bat
03-15-2005, 03:19 PM
If anyone was born to play the Joker, it has to be Adrian Brody. He needs to bulk up a bit, so he can be a physical challenge to Bale but otherwise, he has the acting ability and the face. This guy can challenge Bale's acting chops, as well. Glover is a loose cannon. I don't trust him and he's very one note. Adrian Brody is the way to go.

Attikus

Hmmm Adrian Brody is a great choice. I really wanted him to play the role of The Scarecrow. But I am going to stick with Crispin Glover.

Exactly! That's what I've been trying to tell everyone here for years!

And I will take up that cause with you....

because look at Micheal Keaton when he first got the role of Batman people freaked out and said NO, not Mr. Mom, but he proved us all wrong, and now today people still refer to him as the greatest Batman of all time.

another example is Keenu Reeves he went from surfer dude to Neo to John Constantine.

Proving that acting is acting and any good or great actor can step up there game if they really want too

Mike_D
03-15-2005, 03:39 PM
http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/batman/crispjoker.jpg
http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/batman/newcrispjoker.jpg

..dammit...


-Mike

RedIsNotBlue
03-15-2005, 03:51 PM
http://ffmedia.ign.com/batman/image/lachy_hulme_1089249000.jpg \

Theres Joker for me...minus the stache.

Two-Face
03-15-2005, 03:57 PM
Dafoe please.


WOW! Green Goblin is Joker, many will be confused. :rolleyes:

One other thing I don't know if you read that WB are looking for young Joker not old Joker. :) :batman:


P.S Don't get me wrong Willem Dafeo is great actor like I said he's too old.

The Last Meatbag
03-15-2005, 04:41 PM
Dennis Leary would be good and hes not that old

The Techno Bat
03-15-2005, 04:52 PM
http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/batman/crispjoker.jpg
http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/batman/newcrispjoker.jpg

..dammit...


-Mike

AWESOME could you manip this one:

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/gallery/2003/07/02/ca3473.jpg

Two-Face
03-15-2005, 05:14 PM
Dennis Leary would be good and hes not that old


Yes he's old, his going over to 50s in couple years.


WB looking for to match Bale's Batman like Joker 30s slightly talller then Bale.

The Last Meatbag
03-15-2005, 05:15 PM
wowza.................he'd still be a good joker

Two-Face
03-15-2005, 05:18 PM
wowza.................he'd still be a good joker


maybe if he was cast as Joker Back in Batman 89

P. Cushing
03-16-2005, 05:03 AM
wowza.................he'd still be a good joker
You got that right.

General_Grievous
03-16-2005, 11:25 AM
AWESOME could you manip this one:

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/gallery/2003/07/02/ca3473.jpg

I had never really been convinced that Glover could play the Joker until this image, he has the evil stare down to a tee!

uzazil
03-17-2005, 11:52 PM
how about seann william scott u know stiffler from the american pie movie he has the perfect face for the joker

Obsidian
03-18-2005, 12:32 AM
I'd like to throw another name into the mix. He's a great Irish actor who's relatively unknown in the states: Liam Cunningham (A Little Princess).

P. Cushing
03-18-2005, 01:45 AM
Pic?

super scar
03-18-2005, 06:58 AM
Michael Wincott

http://www.michaelwincott.org/Agencyphotosmoked.jpg
http://movieshop.ru/catalog/people/003200/003296/i.jpg

RedIsNotBlue
03-18-2005, 07:18 AM
Michael Wincott has a great look and physique but his voice just ruins it.

super scar
03-18-2005, 07:27 AM
Have you ever heard him as Mr Sanjay(?) in Along came a Spider. He played a kidnapper disguised as an English teacher and his voice was unrecogniseable. He's been my personal fave to play The Joker for a while now and could more than likely give Bale a run for his money in a fight scene.

RedIsNotBlue
03-18-2005, 07:29 AM
Nah haven't seen that movie. Every movie I have seen him in he sounds like he has throat cancer.

General_Grievous
03-18-2005, 07:59 AM
I havent actually seen any film with him in it.

super scar
03-18-2005, 08:43 AM
He also played Top Dollar in The Crow. But take into consideration Bale has an English accent and with the help of a voice coach, who knows?

General_Grievous
03-18-2005, 09:05 AM
I think that Bale does a convincing American accent, and what do you think about his performance in The Machinist?

I haven't seen it, but it looks interesting, and he lost all that weight for the role. Shows a lot of commitment from him.

Caliber
03-18-2005, 05:08 PM
Denis Leary for Joker.

Caliber
03-18-2005, 05:15 PM
Dennis Leary for Joker.

Detective Flass
03-18-2005, 05:57 PM
Dennis Leary would make an awful Joker....

Obsidian
03-18-2005, 09:18 PM
Pic?

http://www.showbizireland.com/images/stars/chicago2.jpg

http://www.liamcunningham.com/movies/images/dogsoldiers.jpg

He's in his early 40s, btw.

P. Cushing
03-18-2005, 10:49 PM
He looks like a cross between Jason Isaacs and Tom Sizemore!

Two-Face
03-19-2005, 06:08 AM
Leary is old too for Joker.

You people need cast younger Joker.

P. Cushing
03-19-2005, 06:28 AM
Christian Bale.

Captain_Obvious
03-19-2005, 11:44 AM
He looks like a cross between Jason Isaacs and Tom Sizemore!

he doesn't he :eek:

those Jason Isaacs is far more attractive ;)

nice avvy btw, Oldman

Detective Flass
03-19-2005, 12:08 PM
Batman 2

Starring: Christian Bale, Gary Oldman, Christian Bale, and Barry Dowden.

Bale's already Batman.

P. Cushing
03-19-2005, 06:13 PM
nice avvy btw, Oldman
Thank you.

Johnny DC
03-19-2005, 07:10 PM
There shouldn't be a Joker in BB2. Save him for the third film.

Batty for Bats!
03-19-2005, 11:14 PM
Joker could have been the long lost identical twin brother to Bruce Wayne that was put up for adoption after his parents died and alfred already had enough troble with young master bruce............
speaking outta my @$$ here ofcourse, but you can't deny that if Bale wasn't cast as Bats,...he would have prolly pulled off ANY villian.

RedIsNotBlue
03-20-2005, 01:21 AM
There shouldn't be a Joker in BB2. Save him for the third film.

Joker WILL be in BB2.

DorkyFresh
03-20-2005, 01:31 AM
but you can't deny that if Bale wasn't cast as Bats,...he would have prolly pulled off ANY villian.
Actually......I think it'd be kinda hard for Bale to pull off the Penguin.....


...or Catwoman for that matter, hehe.

Philly Phanboy
03-20-2005, 01:25 PM
Most of those guy mentioned are way too old. I'd want somebody around Bale's age that could really act. My pick: Damian Lewis. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507073/

http://www.staciwilson.com/Dreamcatcher/Damian_Lewis_a.jpg

DorkyFresh
03-20-2005, 03:19 PM
Most of those guy mentioned are way too old. I'd want somebody around Bale's age that could really act. My pick: Damian Lewis. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507073/

http://www.staciwilson.com/Dreamcatcher/Damian_Lewis_a.jpg
He has the look and since he's British, it's in his favor (since Nolan has picked British people for a few of the big roles) and he sure can act (I LOVED him in Band of Brothers), but I'm not sure he'd be able to play the kind of character Joker is. I didn't see him in Dreamcatchers. If he has the acting chops to do it, I'd definitely love to see him as Joker.

He sure DOES look sadistic in this shot though...hehe
http://kultur.orf.at/030411-11303/2-lewis.jpg

fear&loathing
03-20-2005, 03:42 PM
No no no, you've all got it wrong. Nolan should cast none other than Keanu Reeves for the role......



























[hiccup]

General_Grievous
03-21-2005, 12:09 PM
I agree. Plus I think he really needs to be in the film. The best Batman villain shouldn't be held off.

RedIsNotBlue
03-21-2005, 12:14 PM
You think there is any chance for Joker and Scarecrow sequel?

Mike_D
03-21-2005, 12:16 PM
Joker is like the Lex Luthor of the Batman franchise, you gotta have the guy around. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Hes Batman's arch nemisis, not a one-hit villain.

-Mike

P.S.

I'm working on that manip for ya Techno Bat :)

General_Grievous
03-21-2005, 12:18 PM
I wouldn't like Scarecrow back again, unless he was given a worthy story and wasn't just a lackey. But the Joker really needs the film to himself for his story to be told properly.

RedIsNotBlue
03-21-2005, 12:21 PM
I don't know about a WHOLE film to himself. At least a tiny encounter with another villain. Maybe an opening where he takes out Zsasz.

General_Grievous
03-21-2005, 12:33 PM
Yeah, well thats what I was implying!

But he is such a BIG character that he deserves lots of room in a movie.

Mike_D
03-21-2005, 01:00 PM
http://www.geocities.com/nomad202/crispy.jpg

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/batman/newcrispjoker.jpg

Crispin...Glover..dammit.

-Mike

General_Grievous
03-21-2005, 01:06 PM
The first manip is definitely the best. The evil stare is perfect, but is he perhaps too old at 41 for a Year One-ish Joker? He could perhaps pull it off with good make-up techniques.

Mike_D
03-21-2005, 01:10 PM
Jack Nicholson played the Joker when he was in his 40s didnt he?? I mean, there are older actors who play younger roles ALL the time.

-Mike

RedIsNotBlue
03-21-2005, 01:11 PM
If they cast Joker he is going to be in Bale's age range.

RedIsNotBlue
03-21-2005, 01:15 PM
Jack Nicholson played the Joker when he was in his 40s didnt he?? I mean, there are older actors who play younger roles ALL the time.

-Mike

Nicholson was 52 and Keaton was 38. I don't want that age difference this time around.

bbb
03-21-2005, 01:17 PM
http://www.geocities.com/nomad202/crispy.jpg

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/batman/newcrispjoker.jpg

Crispin...Glover..dammit.

-Mike

i'm still not conviced , could you make a manip of glover with a different hairstyle, every pic i see him in has this awful greasy center parting hairstyle

bbb
03-21-2005, 01:21 PM
this guy's around bales age, had anyone mentioned him yet . rufus sewell

http://www.celebrities.ws/data/rufus_sewell/photos/8.jpg

http://www.celebrities.ws/data/rufus_sewell/photos/12.jpg

General_Grievous
03-21-2005, 01:28 PM
Does anyone have any more Lachey Hulme photo manips?

RedIsNotBlue
03-21-2005, 01:30 PM
Does anyone have any more Lachey Hulme photo manips?

Anymore? He is my pick for Joker and I haven't even seen him manipped yet.

Mike_D
03-21-2005, 01:36 PM
I havent seen any good photos of Lachy Hulme yet, otherwise I would manip him. Is he the guy with no neck when he laughs??

Oh, I manipped this guy too, I dont know his name but somebody posted his pic in this thread somewhere:

http://www.geocities.com/nomad202/jokernew.jpg

He looks a bit old..but could be just the pic.

-Mike

logan_weapon_x
03-21-2005, 01:40 PM
He's Christopher Eccleston. He was the original pick for the Scarecrow.

bbb
03-21-2005, 01:45 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/baz82/JOKE.jpg

ok had a shot of glover

Bad Superman
03-21-2005, 01:45 PM
How about Jonathan Rhys-Meyers?

http://www.once-and-always.net/cc/challenge98/jonathan-rhys-meyers03.jpg

bbb
03-21-2005, 01:47 PM
How about Jonathan Rhys-Meyers?

http://www.once-and-always.net/cc/challenge98/jonathan-rhys-meyers03.jpg


does have an interesting look and has already worked with bale before

Bad Superman
03-21-2005, 01:51 PM
does have an interesting look and has already worked with bale before

Someone manip him?

General_Grievous
03-21-2005, 01:58 PM
Plus Christopher Eccleston is the new Doctor Who.

DorkyFresh
03-21-2005, 02:03 PM
Damian Lewis for Joker!!!
http://kultur.orf.at/030411-11303/2-lewis.jpg

General_Grievous
03-21-2005, 02:10 PM
Ginger Joker? :confused:

bbb
03-21-2005, 02:13 PM
http://www5.famille.ne.jp/~s_film/img/bale/vg/v_misc.jpg

General_Grievous
03-21-2005, 02:22 PM
What on earth is that?

Philly Phanboy
03-21-2005, 02:32 PM
How about Jonathan Rhys-Meyers?

http://www.once-and-always.net/cc/challenge98/jonathan-rhys-meyers03.jpg

He's got to be Riddler! :up:

General_Grievous
03-21-2005, 02:35 PM
If that was made into a Joker manip it would look OK, what with the purple suit and all...

Mike_D
03-21-2005, 04:14 PM
Heres another guy whose name I cant remember, yet someone mentioned him:

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/jokerother.jpg

-Mike

RedIsNotBlue
03-21-2005, 04:17 PM
Heres another guy whose name I cant remember, yet someone mentioned him:

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/jokerother.jpg

-Mike

That reminds more of Mad Hatter for some reason.

super scar
03-21-2005, 08:26 PM
What on earth is that?
I think it's Bale on the set of Velvet Goldmine.

darknight7
03-21-2005, 10:00 PM
What on earth is that?

HAHAHA GREATEST RESPONSE OF ALL TIME:)

--dk7:wolverine :daredevil these new emoticons are SIC, they need a new Joker:joker:

darknight7
03-21-2005, 10:04 PM
Since this is THE OFFICIAL JOKER THREAD!!! I have a question, cause it's not all about MANIPS and CASTING, if it is STRICTLY JOKER, it could be anything JOKER!! so i have a question?

If Joker and Green Goblin fought,... (not hand to hand) with like there bombs and gas, and stuff... Do you guys think Joker would stand a chance? Just becaus he is insane, and enjoys killing people? And he gives Batman a good go, so do you think he could give GG a run for his money?

PLUS i got some sic pics of joker coming:joker:

--dk7

darknight7
03-21-2005, 10:22 PM
All you Joker Fans have probably already discovered www.gothampublicworks.com

BUT INCASE NOT, check out these sic pics! the costumes at this site are amazing!

http://img59.exs.cx/img59/9858/joker9rz.jpg
http://img59.exs.cx/img59/7526/joker14yc.jpg
http://img165.exs.cx/img165/1474/joker26te.jpg
http://img165.exs.cx/img165/5738/joker33cz.jpg


--dk7

Infinity9999x
03-21-2005, 10:26 PM
I kno this is never going to happen but I always have to say this at the Joker threads....
HAMMIL DAMMIT!!!!!
ok i'm done

DOO BEE
03-22-2005, 02:49 AM
HAMMIL no way, you need a serious dark actor, i wouldn't mind Sean Penn but he might be way too serious for this role, like he could pull the gangster mean baddie, but the look of white face, well maybe can some one try and make a image but make it well, i wouldn't mind seeing a computer graphic artist POV

General_Grievous
03-22-2005, 11:55 AM
HAHAHA GREATEST RESPONSE OF ALL TIME:)


Ha, thank you. Plus I think personally that Hamill physically couldn't play the Joker even though his voice is brilliant.

Infinity9999x
03-22-2005, 06:58 PM
HAMMIL no way, you need a serious dark actor, i wouldn't mind Sean Penn but he might be way too serious for this role, like he could pull the gangster mean baddie, but the look of white face, well maybe can some one try and make a image but make it well, i wouldn't mind seeing a computer graphic artist POV

I think Hamil could play dark and serious, he was a more evil joker in TMOTP. They had to have him play a more kid friendly joker cuz the cartoon was geared at kids. Though Sean Penn could prb do it too, he's a brilliant actor.

Ha, thank you. Plus I think personally that Hamill physically couldn't play the Joker even though his voice is brilliant.

ya thats what I was thinkin, but w/ the makeup they could prb make his face look alright, though he's too old to be physically up to par in any of the new series of movies. I think his only chance will be if they make a DKR movie, and to that we can only hope.:joker:

DOO BEE
03-23-2005, 12:53 AM
yeah i would love to see sean penn play him but make-up and physical work may be a bit too much for. he could do the seriousness of the new films justice, but with nolans look he can be dark like look at mystic river he was great as a dark character, he was amazing in that film! but he is a bit up tight and might not want to be smiling for an entire film. i'll try to make a picture of sean as the joker but maybe i'll leave it to professional fan boys, well sean penn is my choice, better then leo and that guy from willard at least.

Bad Superman
03-23-2005, 08:00 AM
Harley Quinn??

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/uptown_girls/brittany_murphy/uptownpre8.jpg

Mike_D
03-23-2005, 11:34 AM
^ Thats actually a pretty good idea.

Phantasm
03-23-2005, 11:55 AM
All you Joker Fans have probably already discovered www.gothampublicworks.com

BUT INCASE NOT, check out these sic pics! the costumes at this site are amazing!

http://img59.exs.cx/img59/9858/joker9rz.jpg
http://img59.exs.cx/img59/7526/joker14yc.jpg
http://img165.exs.cx/img165/1474/joker26te.jpg
http://img165.exs.cx/img165/5738/joker33cz.jpg


--dk7


THE CATWOMAN and Harley in that site arr unbelievably AWSOME!!!
WOW!!!

Batty for Bats!
03-23-2005, 09:15 PM
Most of those guy mentioned are way too old. I'd want somebody around Bale's age that could really act. My pick: Damian Lewis. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507073/

http://www.staciwilson.com/Dreamcatcher/Damian_Lewis_a.jpg
This ideas been growing on me, now i love the choice. :gg: :up: :up: even better eye.

P. Cushing
03-24-2005, 02:48 AM
The guy in my avatar (I'll have to edit this post in about a week).

General_Grievous
03-24-2005, 07:28 AM
I agree. Lots of wonderful fan costumes there.

Philly Phanboy
03-24-2005, 09:30 AM
Can somebody do up a Damian Lewis as Joker manip?

Qui Gon Ducard
03-24-2005, 10:39 AM
laides and gentlemen please click here for your Joker!

http://http://www.alpenziege.net/archiv/image/joaquin_phoenix_4.jpg

:joker:

bbb
03-24-2005, 10:44 AM
Can somebody do up a Damian Lewis as Joker manip?

no, danniel day lewis please

bbb
03-24-2005, 10:50 AM
laides and gentlemen please click here for your Joker!

http://http://www.alpenziege.net/archiv/image/joaquin_phoenix_4.jpg

:joker:


awful choice for joker, why do you think he can play a good joker?

do you really want a small joker for this franchise?


http://imdb.com/gallery/granitz/1030/Events/1030/phoenix_gray1.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Phoenix,%20Joaquin

Qui Gon Ducard
03-24-2005, 10:53 AM
so we are back to height again........how big is keaton? did we all moan about his height.....? that is a class pic of the man and if someone could manip iot we could all see the joker for sure

P. Cushing
03-24-2005, 08:36 PM
......how big is keaton? did we all moan about his height.....?
Well, yes, a lot of people did and some still do. Keaton's height is only a non-issue if you are as impressed as much as I am with is performance. I really wish they could've transplanted his eyes and brain into the body of someone like Mel Gibson. Then he would've been perfect.

I AM THE NIGHT
03-25-2005, 11:53 AM
Joker could have been the long lost identical twin brother to Bruce Wayne that was put up for adoption after his parents died and alfred already had enough troble with young master bruce............
.
Um...., Drugs are bad m'kay. Don't do drugs.

DEL TORO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DorkyFresh
03-25-2005, 01:41 PM
DAMIAN LEWIS for JOKER!!!

http://a744.g.akamai.net/6/744/582/000/images.hollywood.com/images/1091392.jpg
http://damianfan.web1000.com/damian-workwithgirls.gif
http://www.wordsfromhere.com/images/dreamcatcher.jpg

He's perfect...6 feet tall (Bale is either 6 feet or 6'1) and he's only 3 years older than Bale.

Two-Face
03-25-2005, 02:00 PM
I agree as well that Damian Lewis will be great as Joker.

Batty for Bats!
03-25-2005, 06:51 PM
I'll agree he could make a pretty good Joker. I loved his character and how he portrayed him in Dreamcatcher -- Mr. Gray was my favorite character of the whole movie.

DOO BEE
03-28-2005, 12:30 AM
SEAN PENN DAMNIT!!!



I'LL HAVE SOME MANIPS SOON!

then you will be taken by the Penn side of the Force!!!!

Blade Runner
03-28-2005, 12:42 AM
good stuff... too bad everyone is a bit short on that site :-(

P. Cushing
03-28-2005, 02:10 AM
SEAN PENN DAMNIT!!!



He has the eyes of a ****ing killer!

Captain_Obvious
03-28-2005, 02:51 AM
http://www5.famille.ne.jp/~s_film/img/bale/vg/v_misc.jpg

Bale looks lovely :)

Ceb-Man
03-28-2005, 07:15 PM
I want an unknown as the Joker. Lachley Hulme or Crispin Glover are not big names. A big name will overshadow Batman, which was done in the last 4 movies.
As far as the Joker's character, I want him dark, funny but not nothing the audience would laugh at or with. A serial killer with no remorse like Hannibal Lecter. THAT DANGEROUS!!!
Something that Batman must use his detective skills to track!

The Ceb-Man!

General_Grievous
03-29-2005, 05:48 AM
I agree whole heartedly.

What did you make of Nicholsons performance though? Considering he is such a big name, I think he did a great job.

Boom
03-29-2005, 10:41 PM
There's only one man that has a smile that scares the living **** out of me:

http://images.usatoday.com/news/healthscience/health/_photos/2002-04-18-inside-enzyte.jpg

Bob for The Joker :up:.

Farva
03-29-2005, 11:59 PM
There's only one man that has a smile that scares the living **** out of me:

http://images.usatoday.com/news/healthscience/health/_photos/2002-04-18-inside-enzyte.jpg

Bob for The Joker :up:.

HAHAHAHAHAHA :up: :up: :up:
That made my day.

General_Grievous
03-30-2005, 05:19 AM
Who exactly is that guy?

The Techno Bat
03-30-2005, 08:05 PM
Who exactly is that guy?

I think it's that the guy from the viagra commercials

The Last Meatbag
03-30-2005, 08:13 PM
No they're enzyte commercials

The Techno Bat
03-30-2005, 10:56 PM
No they're enzyte commercials

that is the name of it. Thanks. But it's still viagra all the same....

General_Grievous
03-31-2005, 07:13 AM
Oh right, wuh-oh! Have any of you seen the new Batman Begins teaser spots then?

The Last Meatbag
03-31-2005, 05:54 PM
I did with the bats swirling, and no they arent like viagra they penis enhancement tablets

General_Grievous
04-01-2005, 05:12 AM
Oh right, thanks. I haven't seen any on TV or anywhere else in Britain yet.

spawnjack01
04-02-2005, 10:42 PM
What do you think of this manip I made of Glover?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/andreas22/glover.jpg

TheDeafGuy
04-03-2005, 05:42 AM
freaky man...just damn freaky

Swordmaster
04-03-2005, 07:05 PM
agreed. i love the idea of an overcoat though

Dark Phantom
04-03-2005, 07:14 PM
I agree whole heartedly.

What did you make of Nicholsons performance though? Considering he is such a big name, I think he did a great job.

I loved Nicholsons performance. He brought what the Joker really is...a maniacal, cunning, comedian killing someone just to get the laugh:joker: . The problem I had was always wearing the make-up in public during the movie. I wanted to see the Joker with white face, not skin toned. But that wasn't Nicholson's fault. I also thought that he should have been a little skinnier. In the comics, the Joker is a tall lanky guy like Jim Carrey's Riddler almost. Nicholson could have exercised or gone on a diet for awhile just to loose a few pounds.

These are just opinions on his appearance. I felt his performance was flawless. It wasn't overdone like some thought. That's just how the Joker was.

Swordmaster
04-03-2005, 07:17 PM
well, around the time 89 came out, joker bore a resemblance to Nicholson in DKR

Detective Flass
04-03-2005, 07:17 PM
DAMIAN LEWIS for JOKER!!!

http://a744.g.akamai.net/6/744/582/000/images.hollywood.com/images/1091392.jpg
http://damianfan.web1000.com/damian-workwithgirls.gif
http://www.wordsfromhere.com/images/dreamcatcher.jpg

He's perfect...6 feet tall (Bale is either 6 feet or 6'1) and he's only 3 years older than Bale.

Nah, I still say Roth.

super scar
04-03-2005, 07:31 PM
I think Nicholson did a great job. My only problem is that I think a younger Nicholson might have looked better.

Riven
04-03-2005, 08:19 PM
28% of the people who voted on that poll chose Lachy f cking Hulme.


Can anyone give me one good reason why???

Other than the fact his name through some incredible cosmic coincidence got mentioned AT ALL??

Philly Phanboy
04-03-2005, 08:55 PM
28% of the people who voted on that poll chose Lachy f cking Hulme.


Can anyone give me one good reason why???

Other than the fact his name through some incredible cosmic coincidence got mentioned AT ALL??

I've never heard of the guy either. Why all the Lachy-love folks? :confused:

P. Cushing
04-04-2005, 03:27 AM
Because Jett brought his name up as a possible candidate for the role in the next film. No one would've suggested him other wise.
I'm still rooting for Dafoe.

bbb
04-04-2005, 05:10 AM
i think bowie has the perfect strange look for the joker and has proven he can act too


http://www.teenagewildlife.com/Othermedia/Pictures/1999/hourspromo01.jpghttp://www.rattlebeak.com/images/content/bowie/full/flaunt-magazine-1.jpg
http://www.rattlebeak.com/images/content/bowie/full/new/david_bowie_9.jpghttp://www.rattlebeak.com/images/content/bowie/full/new/mg05.jpg
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/ayers/18/bboard.jpg

spawnjack01
04-04-2005, 05:23 AM
freaky man...just damn freaky

In a good way or a bad way?

bbb
04-04-2005, 05:41 AM
has anyone suggested david bowie yet? http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160865&page=8&pp=25

Riven
04-04-2005, 07:57 AM
If David Bowie ever gets to play the Joker I think I'll die with joy.


:joker:

General_Grievous
04-04-2005, 07:59 AM
David Bowie would be a great choice! lol. But I dont see it happening.

Riven
04-04-2005, 08:03 AM
Bowie would rule!!!


(at least give him a screentest Nolan... that would make SUCH an awesome DVD extra)

:joker:

regwec
04-04-2005, 08:58 AM
That would be so wrong. It could make a great music video, though...

General_Grievous
04-04-2005, 10:07 AM
I agree, but something says that he wouldnt do it! However he did do Labyrinth...

bbb
04-04-2005, 10:12 AM
I agree, but something says that he wouldnt do it! However he did do Labyrinth...

well Nolan seems to like him as he used one of his songs for the end credits of 'Memento'

General_Grievous
04-04-2005, 01:14 PM
I suppose so. A lot of people like Bowie though.

It would be nice to see him do a screen test though!

Detective Flass
04-04-2005, 04:31 PM
The Batman fans act as if Jett is God of The Internet and whatever he says is right.

Give me a break.

bbb
04-04-2005, 09:07 PM
If David Bowie ever gets to play the Joker I think I'll die with joy.


:joker:

does anyone know where the joker was born and was from , if it is unknown then it is possibly for Bowie to keep his british accent

Alfie Luke
04-04-2005, 09:22 PM
does anyone know where the joker was born and was from , if it is unknown then it is possibly for Bowie to keep his british accent

I don't recall it being mentionned anywhere...
As for David Bowie, even though I think he looks right for the Joker, the fact remains that he was born in '47, which means he's 58 years old!

That's way too much.

Brucewayne777
04-04-2005, 09:46 PM
I have heard James Marsters name, up for the role. I think I'd be okay with that casting.:joker:

Oh, and Sean Bean for Harvey Dent.
I would love to see Angie Jolie as Selina Kyle, but it's not happening unfortunately.

drastic_quench
04-04-2005, 10:03 PM
I nicked this suggestion from imdb.com: Richard E.Grant who starred in Withnail and I

http://www.withnail-and-i.com/pictures/both12.jpg
http://www.withnail-and-i.com/pictures/withnail14.jpg

DOO BEE
04-06-2005, 03:18 AM
Holy ****, Yes Yes
Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie Bowie

DOO BEE
04-06-2005, 03:19 AM
i'm a big bowie fan
i just never thought of him as joker, but, YES YES

General_Grievous
04-06-2005, 07:45 AM
Thanks for the support of the Bowie for Joker campaign!

Two-Face
04-06-2005, 08:09 AM
He is a singer not actor

General_Grievous
04-06-2005, 08:25 AM
Yes, we know, but we were joking.

Plus he acted in Labyrynth.

bbb
04-06-2005, 08:29 AM
He is a singer not actor


er he's acted in a number of movies already, tim booth the lead singer from James is playing Victor Zsasz, how come your not complaining about him

bbb
04-06-2005, 08:30 AM
Yes, we know, but we were joking.



i'm not joking i'm serious, i think he could pull off a good portrayle of the Joker

Two-Face
04-06-2005, 08:33 AM
er he's acted in a number of movies already, tim booth the lead singer from James is playing Victor Zsasz, how come your not complaining about him

Bowie is 60-something years old and WB are looking for young Joker to match Bale's Batman! :rolleyes:

General_Grievous
04-06-2005, 08:34 AM
It was only an idea though, no need to completely condemn it!

Two-Face
04-06-2005, 08:36 AM
Some people mentioned David Leary for Joker again he's too old.

bbb
04-06-2005, 08:37 AM
Bowie is 60-something years old and WB are looking for young Joker to match Bale's Batman! :rolleyes:

Bowie is in good shape and could pass for a 40 year old, it is unknown how old the joker is from the comics so he could be older than bale in the sequels

Two-Face
04-06-2005, 08:40 AM
Bowie is in good shape and could pass for a 40 year old, it is unknown how old the joker is from the comics so he could be older than bale in the sequels

Go read BOF article WB are look for young Joker and has who is linked with Joker role whom are young actors!

General_Grievous
04-06-2005, 08:43 AM
Well, it was only a suggestion.

bbb
04-06-2005, 09:20 AM
Go read BOF article WB are look for young Joker and has who is linked with Joker role whom are young actors!

are you refering to the one on Sequel news?
Wednesday, July 7, 2004, 6:00 PM CST:

Lachy Hulme
robin williams,
jude law
Steve Buscemi.

being mentioned

IMO busvemi and williams are to old aswell

Two-Face
04-06-2005, 09:39 AM
Steve Buscemi and Robin Williams are linked with the role but it's between Jude Law and Lachy Hulme.

bbb
04-06-2005, 09:43 AM
Steve Buscemi and Robin Williams are linked with the role but it's between Jude Law and Lachy Hulme.

and several other british actors Jett hasn't heard of, i don't think Jude law or Lachy Hulme be picked for the Joker

Two-Face
04-06-2005, 09:48 AM
and several other british actors Jett hasn't heard of, i don't think Jude law or Lachy Hulme be picked for the Joker

They won't be picked but it will be on WB's list for Joker canidedate (sp?)

bbb
04-06-2005, 09:53 AM
They won't be picked but it will be on WB's list for Joker canidedate (sp?)

who would you say will make a good joker then?

General_Grievous
04-06-2005, 10:22 AM
I actually think that Lachey Hulme would be good for the role, he's American isn't he?

DOO BEE
04-07-2005, 03:57 AM
BOWIE can act he has been in many films, he has proven he can act, he has proven that he can change character, and go search for bowie in yahoo search and find pics of him smiling he would be so cool as bowie, it probably won't happen, but like what many have said let him have a screen test at least lets see what he's got, plus he has got to be the most healthy and young looking 60 year old in the entertainment business, some one please make a manip of bowie or at least post a pic

Qui Gon Ducard
04-07-2005, 06:34 AM
http://www.essentiallyjamesmarsters.net/Gallery/jm29-0.jpghttp://www.essentiallyjamesmarsters.net/Gallery/jm18-0.jpg

http://www.filelibrary.com:8080/cgi-bin/freedownload/Multi-Platform/m/97/joker.jpg

Yeah Yeah, I know you're gonna shoot me, but MARSTERS DAMMIT!

Qui Gon Ducard
04-07-2005, 06:39 AM
http://www.essentiallyjamesmarsters.net/Gallery/jm29-0.jpghttp://www.essentiallyjamesmarsters.net/Gallery/jm18-0.jpg

http://www.filelibrary.com:8080/cgi-bin/freedownload/Multi-Platform/m/97/joker.jpg

Yeah Yeah, I know you're gonna shoot me, but MARSTERS DAMMIT!

SEND HIM OFF WITH SOME VOICE TRAININMG FROM THE GOD THAT IS HAMILL AND WE ALL KNOW HE CAN HANDLE HIMSELF...........LETS DO IT......MARSTERS DAMMIT!

P. Cushing
04-07-2005, 06:50 AM
No. Dafoe.

Triad
04-07-2005, 07:56 AM
How about Denis Leary? If you have seen "Judgment Night", then you know he can play an evil psychopath - and as a bonus, he has a background in sick, twisted comedy. plus, I think that he looks the part.

General_Grievous
04-07-2005, 08:45 AM
James Marsters is a bit too young in my opinion, and not tall enough or has the physical look to pull it off. He'd be good, but not the best choice.

Qui Gon Ducard
04-07-2005, 09:36 AM
No. Dafoe.

Buddy it aint gonna happen.....................

General_Grievous
04-07-2005, 09:44 AM
I agree. He is slightly too old for the role, and is known as the Green Goblin to many, so people uneducated in the new Batman films would think "What is the Green Goblin doing in a Batman film?!"

Qui Gon Ducard
04-07-2005, 11:14 AM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551346/

MAN YOU WONT BELIEVE IT....check it out Marsters is 43........feck i thought he was early 30's.........not too young to play old Mr J now.........or will he be too old?

Qui Gon Ducard
04-07-2005, 11:17 AM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000288/

bale's younger but not too much.............good match say I

General_Grievous
04-07-2005, 11:18 AM
43? Wow! He looks so young. He is a good contender for the role now, I must say.

Qui Gon Ducard
04-07-2005, 11:27 AM
I know I cannot believe it, that's feckin............amazing........good skin cream..or is he really a vampire?

General_Grievous
04-07-2005, 11:30 AM
No idea. Unbelievable though.

Two-Face
04-07-2005, 02:37 PM
He's the guy shacked by Sarah Michelle Geller! WOW! lol

Brucewayne777
04-07-2005, 04:29 PM
I had posted on the other Joker casting thread, that I had heard about Marsters being up for the role, and that I liked that casting. Glad to see some people agree.
And, as far as how he should play it: Joker is the Hannibal Lecture of the comic world. He should be dressed nice, like he was in the 40's and 50's, with the black suit with pinstripes. And it should be ironic that he looks like a clown, because he is serious and definately not funny.:joker:

Qui Gon Ducard
04-07-2005, 04:51 PM
Trenchcoat, trenchcoat, trenchcoat!......by the way Ithink he should wear a trenchcoat:joker:

Brucewayne777
04-07-2005, 05:00 PM
Yeah. A long black coat, and black hat would really set off that bright white skin. He would actually be scary for a change.

Just like we have never seen a true addapation of Bats, we've also never seen Joker as he was intended.:joker:

Qui Gon Ducard
04-07-2005, 05:09 PM
Killing Joke style..................

P. Cushing
04-07-2005, 05:21 PM
I agree. He is slightly too old for the role, and is known as the Green Goblin to many, so people uneducated in the new Batman films would think "What is the Green Goblin doing in a Batman film?!"
Yes that'd make a lot of sense............ If he was wearing a armoured green bodysuit, a goblin mask and going around on a glider! Do you seriously think they'd think "Uuuuh..... why does da Green Goblin not wearing his mask and why is his face white, his lips red, his hair green and he wearing purple and yellow suit? why does he calling himself da joker? IT MAKE NO SENZZZ!!"
They are not that dumb! Did the people who saw Catwoman ask why Storm has shorter hair, had lost her powers and was now wearing a clown stripper outfit?

super scar
04-07-2005, 07:49 PM
Yeah. A long black coat, and black hat would really set off that bright white skin. He would actually be scary for a change.

Just like we have never seen a true addapation of Bats, we've also never seen Joker as he was intended.:joker:

There is one scene (very brief) in B89 where Jack is about to hand over a sandwich full of money to Eckheart and he's leaning on a car. Every time I see that pose, the way his hat is covering half of his face and the long black coat, just makes me wish they had used it after his accident.

darknight7
04-07-2005, 08:24 PM
I don't know about BLACK...maybe a REALLY REALLY DARK purple...so that in the dark scenes...it almost looked black but had a purple tinge to it. OR!!! even a BLACK suit with purple pin stripes would be cool. BUT NOT ALLLLLL Black....:)

--dk7

Farva
04-08-2005, 12:13 AM
There is one scene (very brief) in B89 where Jack is about to hand over a sandwich full of money to Eckheart and he's leaning on a car. Every time I see that pose, the way his hat is covering half of his face and the long black coat, just makes me wish they had used it after his accident.

:up: :up: :up: I concur. I have always thought he looked more dangerous/crazy there than any other time.

Brucewayne777
04-08-2005, 01:29 AM
No doubt. And as far as someone like Dafoe playing Joker. Man, he looks the part. But I think everyone involved wants to go with a much younger part. Ray Liotta was originally the one who was going to play the Joker in Sam Hamm's original script. Not Jack. And Joker should be at least as young as Bats. If not younger. They want to go against the original films. Man, I even thought of James Marsters as too old.:joker:

Riven
04-08-2005, 07:11 AM
I think the Joker looks way cooler in black or a darker suit than in purple. It worked in B89 cause it was pretty dark purple, but I still prefer something different.

Nicholson looked awesome in that "the pen is mightier than the sword" scene.

http://darkben2.free.fr/images/galeries/images/dc/4/joker.jpg http://www.space-debris.com/bat_nicholson_quill.jpg

General_Grievous
04-08-2005, 07:59 AM
Yes that'd make a lot of sense............ If he was wearing a armoured green bodysuit, a goblin mask and going around on a glider! Do you seriously think they'd think "Uuuuh..... why does da Green Goblin not wearing his mask and why is his face white, his lips red, his hair green and he wearing purple and yellow suit? why does he calling himself da joker? IT MAKE NO SENZZZ!!"
They are not that dumb! Did the people who saw Catwoman ask why Storm has shorter hair, had lost her powers and was now wearing a clown stripper outfit?

Dude, youre suggesting that people saw Catwoman?

neobido9999
04-08-2005, 02:11 PM
i 1000% agree the joker looks cooler in monchromatic clothing

Detective Flass
04-08-2005, 03:41 PM
Tim Roth!!!!

http://www.annaandsusie.co.uk/mediac/400_0/media/tim~roth~2.jpg

http://crazy4cinema.com/Actor/imgs/roth.jpg

http://southwest.greenparty.org.uk/images/roth.jpg

http://www.cinemamontreal.com/images/people-389-timroth.jpg

Detective Flass
04-08-2005, 03:46 PM
Tim Roth is 42! So, Marsters is old then Tim Roth. WOW!

Tim Roth is perfect, and that's a fact!

uzazil
04-08-2005, 10:53 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/uzazil/jakermanip.jpg

not my best but hey it's something

Spidey-Bat
04-08-2005, 11:06 PM
that's really creepy.

Maxwell Smart
04-09-2005, 12:01 AM
After watching him in Sin City, I think that Benicio Del Toro could make a really great Joker. He was immensely creepy. This guy could NAIL the Joker.

Detective Flass
04-09-2005, 11:08 AM
"Wakey Wakey, eggs and bacy."

- Michael Madsen as Budd

Richard E. Grant is good, but too old now. Roth is still fresh and can pull off the role.

Roth is the only reasonable choice.

Spidey-Bat
04-09-2005, 11:27 AM
Roth is the only reasonable choice.

Roth is ONE of the reasonable choices.

Detective Flass
04-09-2005, 12:32 PM
Ok, along with Glover, Depp, and Lewis, but that's all.

Spidey-Bat
04-09-2005, 12:38 PM
Ok, along with Glover, Depp, and Lewis, but that's all.

that's it in YOUR opinion. There are other choices who are just as good and some even better than the ones you list above.

Nightwing5
04-09-2005, 01:27 PM
Yeah Flass, you left some good choices off of their (Adrien Brody, Jude Law, Christopher Eccleston, Paul Bettany)

Detective Flass
04-09-2005, 03:44 PM
that's it in YOUR opinion. There are other choices who are just as good and some even better than the ones you list above.

Lachy Hulme Right? :rolleyes:

Freedom77
04-09-2005, 09:15 PM
I agree Riven Joker looks perfect in that first picture. Iam pretty sure they will pick a very decent guy to play the joker when ever that is, iam sure there choosein right now!!http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif But i just hope that he is insane in the film although JN's performance in Batman was great i think that the Joker did not seem like a madman.... i wanna see him shoot ppl and kill them for looking at him wrong i want to be scared of the Joker.. i want the kids that see it have nightmares of just how scarey he is not by violence or bad laguage just by the way he looks and his voice ..and the eyeshttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/joker.gif

Swordmaster
04-09-2005, 10:09 PM
I have faith in Nolan

Maxwell Smart
04-10-2005, 02:39 AM
After watching him in Sin City, I think that Benicio Del Toro could make a really great Joker. He was immensely creepy. This guy could NAIL the Joker.

No love for Benecio? He is PERFECT. Seriously, watch Sin City. I can just see him as the Joker..

DOO BEE
04-10-2005, 07:03 AM
nah i think masters still, and i love the long black trench coat but do yas think i top hat or the old gangster hat, but yeah i'd love it if he was dressed like when he gave the cash to eckheart i want the joker to be dark and serious with the slight side of being insane as well, his character should be like in "Gangster No.1" played by paul bettany the bloke in first knights tale and wimbeldon, any whoo his character in Gangter No.1 was insane and the charcter hacked everybody up and enjoyed hearing the victims yell of pain and agony, plus the charcter always got undressed to this whity tighties and singlet then killed the victim, now that character was insane, so yeah check the movie out and see what you think. ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh base joker around Alex from A Clockwork Orange, that movie was mad, so get joke to be like him oh ho i will love that, just the personality though not the visual stuff, so yeah thats what i think, what about you????

Nightwing5
04-10-2005, 10:35 AM
No love for Benecio? He is PERFECT. Seriously, watch Sin City. I can just see him as the Joker..

As I told you at the BOF forums, great choice!!!

BTW, wil you be changing your sig to read to read

Del Toro dammit?

Spidey-Bat
04-10-2005, 01:50 PM
Lachy Hulme Right? :rolleyes:

Where did I say that? Just b/c YOU don't want him doesn't mean that he is a terrible choice.

Maxwell Smart
04-10-2005, 02:49 PM
As I told you at the BOF forums, great choice!!!

BTW, wil you be changing your sig to read to read

Del Toro dammit?

Done.

Maxwell Smart
04-10-2005, 03:02 PM
After seeing him as Jackie Boy in Sin City I am convinced that he can play The Joker. He is just creepy in that film.

He is Latin but so what. So were Cesar Romero and Jack Nicholson(his bio-dad was Italian).

http://moviething.com/members/full/Del_Toro,_Benicio/245176.jpg

http://www.witchymom.net/images/1989.jpg

http://spectacle.provocateuse.com/images/spectacles/benicio_del_toro_03.jpg

http://spectacle.provocateuse.com/images/spectacles/benicio_del_toro_01.jpg

http://spectacle.provocateuse.com/images/spectacles/benicio_del_toro_08.jpg

http://sevenseconds.homestead.com/files/nasty1.jpg

^Check THAT pic out.

Ladies and gents, I have nailed it. Now lets start campaigning. I want the word spread all over the Internet fandom..

DEL TORO, DAMMIT!!

regwec
04-10-2005, 03:19 PM
No.

GL1
04-10-2005, 03:21 PM
Not too bad... he's an EXCELLENT actor and, well... I think he would give the character a truly deep life that would steal the show quite nicely... make the Joker the once-in-a-lifetime villain he's supposed to be instead of just a comic book character...

Nightwing5
04-10-2005, 03:27 PM
Well Maxwell, I told you how i feel about this over at BOF.

AWESOME!!!!!!

Nightwing5
04-10-2005, 03:29 PM
Cool

How do you mkae a sig here?

Maxwell Smart
04-10-2005, 03:37 PM
No.

I just cannot respect your opinion if you come up in my thread and just blurt out a negative response without explaining why you feel that way.

Maxwell Smart
04-10-2005, 03:38 PM
Cool

How do you mkae a sig here?

Unfortunately its got a really crap system where you can't make one until you've had a certain number of posts. I think its 200 for a sig..

J835
04-10-2005, 03:40 PM
yes he could fitt and SOME ONE NEW PLAY FOR THOMAS WAYNE <
MARTHA WAYNE < JACQULINE BISSETT

Nightwing5
04-10-2005, 03:56 PM
That is really stupid!!!!

I better start posting

regwec
04-10-2005, 04:09 PM
I just cannot respect your opinion if you come up in my thread and just blurt out a negative response without explaining why you feel that way.
It's not a "negative response", it's not "your" thread, and I didn't "blurt" out anything. I simply happen to disagree with your opinion, the reason being that I consider many other actors to be preferrable for the role, and that I have never considered The Joker to be either Hispanic or physically powerful. I'll happily admit that the fellow is a fine actor, but this smacks of a "flavour of the month" bias.

Maxwell Smart
04-10-2005, 04:16 PM
It's not a "negative response", it's not "your" thread, and I didn't "blurt" out anything. I simply happen to disagree with your opinion, the reason being that I consider many other actors to be preferrable for the role, and that I have never considered The Joker to be either Hispanic or physically powerful. I'll happily admit that the fellow is a fine actor, but this smacks of a "flavour of the month" bias.

First of all, I recognize people have different opinions. But I find it insulting when people don't take the time to explain their opinions.

This is not a flavor of the month choice at all. Del Toro is a very, very solid actor with a distinct personality. Which is what is needed for a role like The Joker, because whoever plays him needs to have a definite PRESENSE(which I think Del Toro does). I am suggesting him for the role because I think that his performance in "Sin City" suggests he could play that kind of role. It really made me picture him as "The Joker".

And why does it matter if the actor who plays "The Joker" is Hispanic? What do you think, he is going to go around saying "ay essay Bat hombre me and my bro chewey going to **** you up mang!"? Del Toro is an ACTOR, and can play someone outside his ethnicity easily. I didn't detect an accent from him in "Sin City" AT ALL.

I'm guessing you think a Hispanic actor can't play "The Joker" because the character has white skin. That is completely devoid of logic when you consider the fact that ANY actor who plays him will be under makeup and prostetics anyway. Del Toro's skin can be easily made bone white, he isn't that dark anyway.

And besides? Who says that the character can't be Hispanic anyway? The Joker's ethnicity has never been specified, and it has jack to do with his character. His skin was stained white, his hair green, and his eyes although green could just as easily have been turned that color by the chemicals as his hair and skin. Besides, not all Latin people are dark. Lots of Spaniards have blonde hair and green eyes.

HarleyLover
04-10-2005, 05:08 PM
A fine choice. When I think about who could do a particular character justice, it's important not to think stereotypically. If you're thinking of candidates for Batman, you've got to think of someone who can really bring the intensity. Michael Keaton and Christian Bale, while being completely different physically and in their nuances as actors, both have shown that "something" that you need to pull off Batman.

For the Joker, I wouldn't go straight for only tall, lanky men with large noses. Just like I wouldn't go for only men with jet black hair and the body of a Greek God for Batman.

There are a bunch of guys I'd like to see as the Joker, most of them are actors with a sort of oddball sensibility, they don't all look exactly like how the Joker looks on the page, but they've got that "something."

Crispin Glover, Johnny Depp, Justin Theroux, Robert Downey Jr, to name a few.

DDRSkata
04-10-2005, 05:27 PM
I'm going to disagree. Physically and in terms of acting ability, he'd do well. But you can still hear his accent in his voice, even if barely, and that kind of took me out of Sin City a little and would definitely do the same for Batman.

Maxwell Smart
04-10-2005, 05:45 PM
I'm going to disagree. Physically and in terms of acting ability, he'd do well. But you can still hear his accent in his voice, even if barely, and that kind of took me out of Sin City a little and would definitely do the same for Batman.

His accent isn't there at all. It just isn't. (In Sin City)

Hes a fine actor, and he did a great gritty voice for Sin City, his voice in Fear and Loathing didn't sound Spanish at all either.

EDIT: I would have expected you to back me up after your Robin thread..Its a two-way street. ;)

BatmanRules33
04-10-2005, 06:09 PM
oh God, Benicio Del Toro, OH God.......i dont think i have to explain myself this time for why i dont think he'd be joker AT ALL.

Matis17
04-10-2005, 06:10 PM
I could deffinitely get behind this. Sin City really proved to me that he could do the character justice.

Maxwell Smart
04-10-2005, 07:05 PM
oh God, Benicio Del Toro, OH God.......i dont think i have to explain myself this time for why i dont think he'd be joker AT ALL.

No..you do. If you think its because he is Hispanic, I've already provided a strong argument against that.

If thats not it..than what?

BatmanRules33
04-10-2005, 07:21 PM
wow, after seeing him in all his movies, hes just too damn serious of a guy to be joker. i mean, everyone accepted nicholson cuz hes known for his "wackiness", thats why hes called "jack the wack". but this guy? hes soo weeeird. not in a funny, joking way, hes a creep! joker doesnt look like a creep, well he does in a way, but not in the creepy way del toro has,he has a veery serious creepiness about him that just doesnt fit with a joker. and im srry about sayin this, but even if he could cover up his accent well, he still LOOKS hispanic and he will always look hispanic cuz he IS hispanic and everyone knows that, even though there isnt a comic that SAYS he american, there isnt a comic that has him REMOTLY looking hispoanic, therefore everyone knows how joker should look, and trust me, its not hispanic. im not a racist, but i just wouldnt want a hispanic joker cuz it just wouldnt look riught, especially with del toro. i heavily heavily heavily doubt Nolan would ever ever ever even THINK about using del toro, heck, we dont even know if he will use joker in the next bat film, so why say anything about it?

Maxwell Smart
04-10-2005, 07:34 PM
wow, after seeing him in all his movies, hes just too damn serious of a guy to be joker. i mean, everyone accepted nicholson cuz hes known for his "wackiness", thats why hes called "jack the wack". but this guy? hes soo weeeird. not in a funny, joking way, hes a creep! joker doesnt look like a creep, well he does in a way, but not in the creepy way del toro has,he has a veery serious creepiness about him that just doesnt fit with a joker. and im srry about sayin this, but even if he could cover up his accent well, he still LOOKS hispanic and he will always look hispanic cuz he IS hispanic and everyone knows that, even though there isnt a comic that SAYS he american, there isnt a comic that has him REMOTLY looking hispoanic, therefore everyone knows how joker should look, and trust me, its not hispanic. im not a racist, but i just wouldnt want a hispanic joker cuz it just wouldnt look riught, especially with del toro. i heavily heavily heavily doubt Nolan would ever ever ever even THINK about using del toro, heck, we dont even know if he will use joker in the next bat film, so why say anything about it?

JESUS CHRIST.

I mean God if you had posted a half-respectable argument..but that was one of the biggest blocks of drivel I've ever seen. I'd be embarassed to post **** like that.

Where do I even begin?

First, Benicio Del Toro can't be wacky? I don't think he was exactly the pinnacle of seriousness in Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas. And I must ask, have you actually seen Sin City? You really should if you haven't. I don't see how you can watch the "Car ride scene" with him and Clive Owen(you all know the one) and not think he can be both creepy and funny at the same time quite well.

And how does he "LOOK hispanic"? What does a hispanic look like? A hispanic can be black, white, brown. They can have blue eyes, green eyes, brown eyes etc. From the way Del Toro "looks" you could just as easily call him Greek, or Lebanese, or even Irish or Welsh. Have you never heard of Dark Irish? George Clooney is a dark-skinned Irishmen. Many Welsh people(like Catherine Zeta-Jones) are known for looking very mediterranean. So its rather silly to say someone of a certain ethnicity is going to always look a certain way. I am Welsh, Scots-Irish, and a smittering Native American, and I've been mistaken for Italian I can't even tell you how many times.

So even if it was determined that The Joker is of Northern European ancestry(which it never has been), he still would not necessarily be light-skinned. And here is the BIG POINT against your argument..

IT DOESN'T ****ING MATTER WHETHER HE IS WHITE OR BROWN-SKINNED ANYWAY BECAUSE HIS SKIN IS STAINED BONE-WHITE FROM CHEMICALS.

Any actor who plays The Joker would go under heavy make-up and prostetics. Did you know the guy who played The Joker in the 60s television show was a Cuban? You see, make-up covers up things, including skin color.

Most people aren't as ignorant as yourself, so no they won't care if hes Hispanic(so it doesn't matter that everyone "knows he is Hispanic").

And if you aren't racist, why did you feel the need to say you weren't?

Postman
04-10-2005, 08:25 PM
I think he's saying he has hispanic features, but if he can't get past that its his loss. If Bececio is cast I don't see how anyone could complain. He's one of the best actors around. He could bring a creepy evil Joker alive and at the same time make him funny w/o being camp. I don't see how anyone could have a problem with Del Toro I guess if they can't get past his race which imo is sad.

GL-Corps#28
04-10-2005, 08:31 PM
The thing with Joker is, there are actually probably abround 15 to 20 actors who could do an amazing job with the role, it's just a matter of choosing one.

Del Toro is a fine choice for Joker. I've also heard him suggested for Bane, based on the assumption that some kind of technology would be used to incorporate a freakishly muscular body.

Quietstorm
04-10-2005, 08:39 PM
I didn't hear his accent AT ALL in Sin City. If you told those people in the theater(around my way) that he is latin, they wouldn't have never guessed it.

BatmanRules33
04-10-2005, 09:13 PM
well, we all have opinons, and I SAY that del toro would NOT be a good joker, just cant picture him. and alot of ppl all over the world know joker as a white american looking normal guy, not some hispanic, heavy irish, indian, itailian, blah blah blah you get the point, now i dont neccassarily have anything to back up my argument that he would be a bad joker, but neither can anyone have a good argument abouit whether he'd be a good joker either, since he hasnt played joker at all, so really it comes down to the matter of OPINION, and MY opinon is that he would suck as joker, i just cannot imagine him as joker for reason beyond me, so thats all im gonna say for the rest of this thread if i can help it.

Nightwing5
04-10-2005, 09:23 PM
The thing with Joker is, there are actually probably abround 15 to 20 actors who could do an amazing job with the role, it's just a matter of choosing one.

There are about 13 people that get thrown around:

1.Johnny Depp
2.Benicio Del Toro
3.Adrien Brody
4.Jude Law
5.Christopher Eccleston
6.Paul Bettany
7.Tim Roth
8.Justin Theroux
9.Crispin Glover
10.Steve Buscemi
11.John Turturro
12.Lachy Hulme
13.Willem Dafoe

I do no support all of them, but there are a few on there I think could be good.

BatmanRules33
04-10-2005, 09:28 PM
william defoe would most likely not be eligible for a joker part, cuz he was already a villian in another big comic book movie, i doubt they would use him again in another CB movie in the same way almost. i dont think they would want to connect him with spiderman, but he plays awsome villian though! what im confused about is jude law (?),whats he doing on there, lol?

super scar
04-10-2005, 09:51 PM
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Spidey-Bat
04-10-2005, 09:58 PM
Unfortunately its got a really crap system where you can't make one until you've had a certain number of posts. I think its 200 for a sig..

it wasn't always like that here. You came after the change.

WeeZiTe
04-10-2005, 10:01 PM
i don't think he's a good choice simply because i don't think he's whacky enough to play Joker.. but thats just me though.

he certainly has the look though.

General_Grievous
04-11-2005, 12:09 PM
I too believe that Nolan will do a great job with the Joker.

Quietstorm
04-11-2005, 12:26 PM
i don't think he's a good choice simply because i don't think he's whacky enough to play Joker.. but thats just me though.

he certainly has the look though.

He's not wacky enough outside of acting? :confused: He's an actor, and a damn good one, I'm sure he could pull it off. In Sin City when Jackie Boy is having the conversation with Dwight in the car. I think he could :D

Two-Face
04-11-2005, 01:38 PM
Benicio Del Toro could play Joker I saw him in The Funeral co starting Christopher Walken, Del Toro's peformance was short but good I saw in Blow I think and Snatch as well he's good actor.

hey yo its sean
04-11-2005, 03:27 PM
What accent are all of you referring to? Del Toro doesn't have a damn accent.

Two-Face
04-11-2005, 03:47 PM
What accent are all of you referring to? Del Toro doesn't have a damn accent.


What accent? who said that? some saying that he could play the part.

DDRSkata
04-11-2005, 04:20 PM
It wasn't very strong, but I could still hear it, specifically when he was in the hallway before Shellie let him in.

Maxwell Smart
04-11-2005, 04:22 PM
Tim Roth is 42! So, Marsters is old then Tim Roth. WOW!

Tim Roth is perfect, and that's a fact!

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Your opinion=!fact

Give us an example of ONE role Tim Roth has played that shows he can do The Joker. Because I can provide a perfect example for Del Toro: Jackie Boy in Sin City.

Two-Face
04-11-2005, 04:40 PM
I have faith in Nolan


We all do dear.... did I say "dear"? forget that part....

DorkyFresh
04-12-2005, 12:43 AM
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Your opinion=!fact

Give us an example of ONE role Tim Roth has played that shows he can do The Joker. Because I can provide a perfect example for Del Toro: Jackie Boy in Sin City.
Tim Roth - Planet of the Apes, Resevior Dogs, Four Rooms, Pulp Fiction

Maxwell Smart
04-12-2005, 01:32 AM
Tim Roth - Planet of the Apes, Resevior Dogs, Four Rooms, Pulp Fiction

Reading comprehension>you

I didn't say he didn't have any good roles. He doesn't have any roles that suggest he could play that particular type of role(The Joker).

Del Toro does.

DOO BEE
04-12-2005, 03:06 AM
What Do Ppl Think Aout My Opinion Damn It!!!!

General_Grievous
04-12-2005, 07:22 AM
Reading comprehension>you

I didn't say he didn't have any good roles. He doesn't have any roles that suggest he could play that particular type of role(The Joker).

Del Toro does.

I believe his role in Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction is ample enough to suggest that Tim Roth can indeed do dark characters, he would be a good choice in my opinion, but at this stage, all's we can do is speculate.

Antinicolae
04-12-2005, 11:46 AM
Cesar Romero for The Joker. I know he's dead, but if Sky Captain can bring back a dead actor, so can the Batman franchise.

DorkyFresh
04-12-2005, 12:02 PM
Reading comprehension>you

I didn't say he didn't have any good roles. He doesn't have any roles that suggest he could play that particular type of role(The Joker).

Del Toro does.
Nice of you to have to resort to personal attacks...

...you asked to give an example of a movie where it shows Roth can play the Joker and I named plenty. Just because YOU (and only you) don't think any of those movies show he can play the Joker doesn't make it so. You'd be more of a man if you actually watch those movies with an open mind and try to picture him as the Joker instead of just dismissing ANY movie he's EVER been in without even giving a 2nd though.

As far as Del Torro being the Joker...I wouldn't have anything against it, but Roth is still one of my faves.

General_Grievous
04-12-2005, 12:05 PM
Tim Roth is a great contender.

raybia
04-12-2005, 05:12 PM
Hell why not! Make it so!!

P. Cushing
04-12-2005, 08:00 PM
If we have to go for a CGI recreate of a dead actor, I'd rather it was Basil Rathbone or Jeremy Brett than Ceasar Romero.

Voyeur
04-12-2005, 08:27 PM
It's almost a shame that Gary Oldman is playing Gordon...I think he would have made a marvelously crazed Joker!

But I'm glad he's Gordon.

I do like the idea of Del Toro or Daniel Day Lewis (although Lewis would never do it).

Dark Knight
04-13-2005, 01:58 PM
i want to see Del Toro be the ideal version of Bane actually. All he has to do is bulk up! He has the acting chops, is Latin....and is tall enough. Plus he has experience doing excellent fighting scenes and trained for the movie The Hunted!

Nightwing5
04-13-2005, 09:01 PM
It's almost a shame that Gary Oldman is playing Gordon...I think he would have made a marvelously crazed Joker!

But I'm glad he's Gordon.

I do like the idea of Del Toro or Daniel Day Lewis (although Lewis would never do it).

Yeah, Oldman had been my first choice for Joker up to the point he was cast as Gordon.

Daniel Day-Lewis would be awesome as Sinister, but Ican't really see any Batman vilians that fit him.

Spidey-Bat
04-13-2005, 09:51 PM
If we have to go for a CGI recreate of a dead actor, I'd rather it was Basil Rathbone or Jeremy Brett than Ceasar Romero.

i'd rather Conrad Veidt

Riven
04-14-2005, 06:40 AM
i'd rather Conrad Veidt
Hell yeah!!

Matis17
04-16-2005, 04:19 PM
The ideal bane? He's the same height as Bale and no way could he get much bigger than him muscle-wise. It defies logic to envision him as the ideal Bane, at least on a physical level. In what way would he be ideal for the character other than just as a voice?