Joker Casting Threads [merged-30]

[Detective Flass]

Thanks dude for the Roth manips. I'm looking forward to the Roth Laughing Pulp Fiction ones. :D

[deDIKnight]

Hey no prob Flass,

Gimme an email or PM some time - i'll show you some more stuff i'm working on without getting pilloried by the anal squad on board

[Nightwing5]

Looking forward to the Depp manip(btw, All of you other ones have been fantastic:) )

[Rynan]

Wow, has anyone realized on how long this thread has been going? Truely a testiment to the character.

Here (http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/batman/joker-batman01.jpg), this may help in your deciding of the actor. One of my favorite Joker stories, although this page does not do it justice

[deDIKnight]

Thanks Nightwing 5 - Nice to be appreciated for a change

Gimme an Email or PM sometime

[deDIKnight]

Wow, has anyone realized on how long this thread has been going? Truely a testiWow, has anyone realized on how long this thread has been going? Truely a testiment to the character.

Yeah and long may it continue I say

[Joker831]

So many more better qualified people to play this part.

Hulme should be a last resort because he hasnt beeen in much, and others are more proven to be able to do it like Glover, Roth, Law, Eckleston, ect...

So Hulme, na i'll pass, but it's just my opinion

[T-1000]

Bruce Campbell or Mark Hamill. They'd do sequels and don't cost much money.

[Riven]

Bruce Campbell or Mark Hamill. They'd do sequels and don't cost much money.
Two of the best requirements for an actor in a high class movie series like this one!

*shudders* :o

[T-1000]

Two of the best requirements for an actor in a high class movie series like this one!

*shudders* :o

I didn't realize there were people who thought that Batman Begins is the next Lawrence of Arabia. Or who actually believe they're in any position to turn their noses on Bruce Campbell and Mark Hamill.

[Riven]

I didn't realize there were people who thought that Batman Begins is the next Lawrence of Arabia. Or who actually believe they're in any position to turn their noses on Bruce Campbell and Mark Hamill.
Yes! By all means, let's AIM LOW! Mediocrity will save us!

I guess that's why we have a whole cast of oscar winners and otherwise lauded great talents in this movie. To produce something that will not seem to have any class. To hire the cheapest actors and make a quick buck on a dissapointing product. God forbid a comicbook movie should ever aspire to be anything more than over-hyped filler material.

And yes, I'll gladly say no to Mark Hamill and Bruce Campbell in these Batman movies. Every respect for Hamill and Campbell, but the Batman series deserves better actors than they.

[deDIKnight]

On Nightwing5's request heres the first depp as the Joker pics

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/deppjoker5.jpg

I'll do better ones later when I can get a pick of the bugger smiling - still not bad for a blind man - lol

And Riven Bruce Campbell and Mark Hamill are VERY talented

Halle Berry got an Oscar for "monsters ball" then went and made CATWOMAN,
case in point that a wee golden award does not quantify an actor or a film - Script, direction are paramount ingredients to a good film

Many low budget films are much better than most A list hollywood fare

[Quietstorm]

I saw this on another board: Vincent Cassel, he looks crazy as hell.

http://starophileimages.free.fr/wallpapers/vincent_cassel_002.jpg

But can he act? I haven't seen him in anything.

[The Guard]

Hoskins as Penguin? After seeing him in UNLEASHED, I'm all for it. If we ever see Cobblepot.

[DorkyFresh]

I saw this on another board: Vincent Cassel, he looks crazy as hell.

http://starophileimages.free.fr/wallpapers/vincent_cassel_002.jpg

But can he act? I haven't seen him in anything.
HOLY COW!!! If he can keep that kind of face throughout the shoot....I'd want him!!! hehe...


I've only seen him in Ocean's Twelve and he was okay in there.

[deDIKnight]

Cassel's married to Monica Belluci (She's mine dammit - shakes fist - lol), and has starred in Brotherhood of the Wolf, Joan Of Arc and Blueberry among many films

He can act well but has a french accent

But that grin wow I feel inspired - lol

[logansoldcigar]

They are not that dumb! Did the people who saw Catwoman ask why Storm has shorter hair, had lost her powers and was now wearing a clown stripper outfit?


i dunno. we should ask him.

[zman]

the title of this thread is a bit misleading, seing how Hulme is a no
Glover is YES

[deDIKnight]

On Nightwing5's request heres the first depp as the Joker pics

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/deppjoker5.jpg

I'll do better ones later when I can get a pick of the bugger smiling - still not bad for a blind man - lol

Well at first i was a bit doubtful about depp as joker, being a crispin glover voter and having a real like for tim roth as an actor (plus he, Oldman and bale are good friends)

But i'm starting to be a believer that depp, roth or glover could do it justice.

[deDIKnight]

Riven I see we finally agree on something

Folks - If Hulme is so perfect for the role post pics please

Even publicity ones that i can do a manip from

"A realistic MAnip" Riven - OK?

[Riven]

Riven I see we finally agree on something

Folks - If Hulme is so perfect for the role post pics please

Even publicity ones that i can do a manip from

"A realistic MAnip" Riven - OK?Ok! ;)

[deDIKnight]

Here's another Depp one for the Depp Joker Brigade
This one based on his Willy wonka character

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/deppjoker6.jpg

I really am warming to depp - but it's unfortunately not going to happen

[Silver]

Hugo Weaving..since he is not in the poll my vote goes to Deep.

[larryfilmmaker]

none of those names will do. my picks are Michael Keaton or Sean Bean


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[deDIKnight]

Yeah Ok - I'm Going to do a manip of joker Weaving soon

Michael Keaton is great and it would be brilliant if he could play the joker for a nice "full circle" in joke kinda thing

He's got that smile, those brows and that mania to be a topic comic and a stone cold psycho in equal proportion

I'll do a manip of Keaton also - need a good photo people - especially a smiling one


Please dont take offence Larry - but in no way, shape or form is Sean Bean good for the Joker

[Rynan]

That Depp needs more Clown white.
And that pic of Vince Cassel is creepy. I wouldn't mind if he had a french accent if he could be true to the character.

Keaton as the Joker? That would be hilarous. For us diehard fans that is.

[deDIKnight]

That Depp is fine the way it is Rynan

I could've done a more extreme "clown white version" hell i just might still

but if you want to go ahead and do it yourself - you have my permission to do so - just remember who did it first and give credit where credit is due

But as Riven will no doubt tell you - its all about "Realism" in these films

The depp one above has a comic style suit without being too comicbook brightly coloured

The face is light enough to be believeable

Most of the Jokers I've done here have been more "white face" than the depp one

Only for riven to show up and tell me its unrealistic

Seems i'm never gonna please everyone as I slave my a$$ off on these with a sight disability :daredevil and get no "love" :rolleyes:


I do these for Fun as I'm a fan and for those who request me to do some like Flass and Nightwing5 - which is my pleasure to do so

You think you can do better - go right ahead and I will give you professional courtesy and adequate praise

[P. Cushing]

Hulme is being discussed in the Joker thread. This didn't need it's own thread. So let's let this thread die and discuss this at the Joker thread.

[Nightwing5]

Here's another Depp one for the Depp Joker Brigade
This one based on his Willy wonka character

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/deppjoker6.jpg

I really am warming to depp - but it's unfortunately not going to happen

Cool, another Depp supporter. Why don't you think it will happen? It very well may.

[deDIKnight]

Why will it not happen?


Well he's got a morbid phobia of clowns

Might overshadow bale - like nicholson did to Keaton's bat and I think the producers/director doesnt want that as Bale has to be the focus

Depp's notoriously choosy about roles and many have been off the wall parts

True - you cant get much more off the wall than the joker

I hope he gets it but i wouldnt lay down a bet on it


And MOST IMPORTANTLY -
did you like what I've done so far?

and can you get me a pic of depp open mouthed laughing?

[Underdawg]

SAM ROCKWELL

[deDIKnight]

Good candidate as any man - I'm doing some photo manips/drawings of sam as mr. J just now underdawg

[Nightwing5]

Why will it not happen?


Well he's got a morbid phobia of clowns

Might overshadow bale - like nicholson did to Keaton's bat and I think the producers/director doesnt want that as Bale has to be the focus

Depp's notoriously choosy about roles and many have been off the wall parts

True - you cant get much more off the wall than the joker

I hope he gets it but i wouldnt lay down a bet on it


And MOST IMPORTANTLY -
did you like what I've done so far?

and can you get me a pic of depp open mouthed laughing?


He wouldn't overshadow Bale if he was written right, which I know he will be.

Here are a few good picks to manip.

http://images.art.com/images/products/large/10134000/10134454.jpg
http://www.dooffy.com/0_pictures/2_dooffy_wallpapers/dooffy_men_wall_002/1_800/dooffy_johnny_depp.jpg

[deDIKnight]

I already got those Nightwing

And I think that second one aint depp but Skeet Ulrich - could be wrong
My sight aint so good:daredevil

i wanted some with open mouthed laughter cos hes surly in most

Ed wood, Willy Wonka, jack sparrow ones would be good - he laughs a lot in those films:up: :)


I'll ask again -

did you like what i've done so far?
never got a positive or negative response from you yet either here, pm or email

Critique politely please

[deDIKnight]

Agreed Cushy

[Boom]

I saw this on another board: Vincent Cassel, he looks crazy as hell.

http://starophileimages.free.fr/wallpapers/vincent_cassel_002.jpg

But can he act? I haven't seen him in anything.
God damn.

[deDIKnight]

:wolverine ^^^^^Would it kill anyone to crop this F*ing picture of vincent cassel?


head and shoulders are all that is needed guys not a bloody bill board




I THINK ITS A WONDERFUL PHOTO AND I'M DOING A MANIP FROM IT RIGHT NOW

BUT PLEASE CROP TO THE FIGURE OR REDUCE THE SIZE OF THAT PIC

THE REST OF THE PHOTO IS SUPERFLUOUS

[Robin91939]

That guy, IS the Joker

-R

[deDIKnight]

This is a work in progress and not finished yet - i got a lot of other work to do thats appreciated

But I'm sick of seeing a giant bill board of Vincent Cassel unmanipulated or uncropped so decided to have a go at both

anyone got any ideas for "realistic" movie clothes?

Here's Monica Belluci's man - Joker Cassel


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/CasselJoker.jpg

[newwaveboy87]

McFly as Joker

classic

[SpyderDan]

Why is everyone so excited about Glover possibly being the Joker? It sounds like crappy casting to me. I mean, it's possible he could pull off a good Joker but I don't believe it.

[CConn]

Why is everyone so excited about Glover possibly being the Joker?1). He's a very good actor. All the while, relatively unknown.
2). He's extremely talented at playing f**ked up psychotics such as The Joker
3). He looks a lot like The Joker.
4). He, I think, would work wonderfully opposite Bale. He's almost an Anti-Bale, IMO.

[Nightwing5]

Wow, awesome manip!!

deDiKnight, check you PM box I sent you a message.


BTW, that second pic is Depp.

http://www.moviesnapshot.com/1994Stills/Ed_Wood.JPG

This is the best one I could find from Ed Wood.

[Riven]

That guy, IS the Joker


Too bad he speaks with the thickest French accent you could imagine.

[zman]

He wouldn't overshadow Bale if he was written right, which I know he will be.

Here are a few good picks to manip.

http://images.art.com/images/products/large/10134000/10134454.jpg
http://www.dooffy.com/0_pictures/2_dooffy_wallpapers/dooffy_men_wall_002/1_800/dooffy_johnny_depp.jpg

Depp is great and all that but I think we see enough of him already, he doesn't need to be everywhere, including Batman's sequels.

[deDIKnight]

Yeah its a shame........

If they did a live action version of The Incredibles

Cassel would make a mean BOMB VOYAGE

[deDIKnight]

Thanks BTW nightwing - but its not a very good pic that one though he's open mouthed

i need one - a good one from ed wood where hes laughing head and shoulders into the camera

and any -anyone has from willy wonka - i only have closed mouth body and distance shots

[SpyderDan]

1). He's a very good actor. All the while, relatively unknown.
2). He's extremely talented at playing f**ked up psychotics such as The Joker
3). He looks a lot like The Joker.
4). He, I think, would work wonderfully opposite Bale. He's almost an Anti-Bale, IMO.

Excellent reasons I suppose. I've never seen Glover do anything besides Back to the Future so I wasn't so sure about his talent.

[Bathrat]

I'm sure there are better choices out there, but I would really like to see him as the Joker

[deDIKnight]

Apart from the BTTF films - Watch Charlies Angels films, Willard and a cameo he has in Wild At Heart

Apart from the last one - not great films - but it does showcase Glover as the Joker quite well

But Glover has potential, as has Depp, Roth and a few others

Glover is odds on favourite as he's "known", cheap (relatively), would make the Part his own, coming back for a sequel? (yeah he would) and he's underrated - needing a huge part like this

[DorkyFresh]

This is a work in progress and not finished yet - i got a lot of other work to do thats appreciated

But I'm sick of seeing a giant bill board of Vincent Cassel unmanipulated or uncropped so decided to have a go at both

anyone got any ideas for "realistic" movie clothes?

Here's Monica Belluci's man - Joker Cassel


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/CasselJoker.jpg
Nice manip!!! But I didn't find that picture....someone else did...hehe

[T-1000]

They could always go with Jack Nicholson Jr. -- Christian Slater. :) Just kidding.

[deDIKnight]

*Does a Darth Vader Impression From Ep 3*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Zilleraut #66]

Robert Carlyle

[Detective Flass]

*Does a Darth Vader Impression From Ep 3*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I cringed when he did that.

[Two-Face]

Robert Carlyle


No no, He's good actor but he's 40-something years old.

[The Bat]

FINALLY! I've seen a picture of Lacy Hulme......Man, He is sooooooooo NOT The Joker! Glover, Law , Cumming, Dafoe, Roth.....anybody but Hulme!

[deDIKnight]

agreed - hes got a joker nose - thats about it

All the others have pedigree - (but i'd rather have Hulme than Law- hate 'im)

As for the crap about not choosing an old joker?

Well I dont care as long as he aint fat like Jack's joker

Since the Joker is a mysterious character and deformed anyway - a 40+ actor is not to be ruled out

The acid could have aged his skin

N-one heard of smoking and or burns bringing premature epidermal decrepitude?

[deDIKnight]

Originally posted by Det. Flass

"I cringed when he did that"

Yep how superhero comic cliche was that?

And to add insult to injury he didnt sell the NOOOOOOOOOOO - it was too weak

Superman Christopher Reeve did a better Job when Lois "died" in Supes 1

But Supes one was more a true PRIMAL SCREAM

Just like BAtman's would 've sounded like when Jason Todd was "killed" by the Joker

[Detective Flass]

"No-owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww""

Sounded so-owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww cheesy! I hated it.

[Zilleraut #66]

No no, He's good actor but he's 40-something years old.True but if the Joker is done right this time who would know. I like Carlyles acting for the part. Also of most imortance he has the voice and laugh.

[MaJiN]

Dayum! 104 pages?! Anyway,I know many people don't want him to be the joker because of perhaps his level of fame and popularity, but don't think anyone can deliver a more badass performance as the Joker than what Johnny Depp could potentially do. I think if his next film is good at least, I believe the Wily Wonka role might land him the part.

[mike blub]

here's a manip i did of crispin glover as the joker, then integrated that into a poster for the sequel. any and all thoughts welcome - thanks!

http://img220.echo.cx/img220/8291/batman2poster0nx.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[American_Idiot]

I've always liked the idea of Jason Lee for the Joker. Think about it; he's an avid comic book reader, he's played a role similar to the Joker as Azrael in Dogma, he has the whole supervillain thing down with his voiceover as Syndrome in the Incredibles, he has the perfect face for the Joker (the smile, the chin, the nose...), the right build, and would be right around the age fans would like the Joker to be...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/Linkincubus/lee_joker.jpg

[Nightwing5]

Dayum! 104 pages?! Anyway,I know many people don't want him to be the joker because of perhaps his level of fame and popularity, but don't think anyone can deliver a more badass performance as the Joker than what Johnny Depp could potentially do. I think if his next film is good at least, I believe the Wily Wonka role might land him the part.

Exactly!!!!

[Rynan]

Jason Lee was great as Syndrome in the Incredibles. He played geeky, threating and creepy, but I don't know if he's Joker material.

[Darth Nata]

I wouldnt mind seeing Jason Lee as The Joker, I reckon that he could pull it off pretty well http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

[S_H_F_4839]

I could see it, but I am still pulling for crispin glover, if he doesnt get it, or do it, then lee is my second pick.

[The Bat]

Ya know...it's a shame that Jim Carrey played the Riddler in "Forever"...because I really think, that NOBODY could pull off a better JOKER than Jim!

[deDIKnight]

WORD!

Jim is the Joker - but came into the bat movies way too early in a crap part

[Weadazoid]

SOme of you may say he is washed up and doesn't deserve the role but em particularly against Bale



http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/Joker2.bmp (http://photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/?)
Slater is not a bad choice




And for Harley Quinn


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/Harley.bmp (http://photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/?)


Balk has always been my Harley ever since the Craft, and the Wa Wa Wa Waterboy, where she was quite excellent as Vicky Valencourt







Now Haveing said that imagine the pychotic combo of Bale, Slater and Balk

[DorkyFresh]

Slater IS a bad choice for Joker simply because...


....he's Christian Slater.

[Riven]

Slater IS a bad choice for Joker simply because...


....he's Christian Slater.
Yes. He's simply NOT a good actor. Really. Look at his resume...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000225/

Name of the Rose, Robin Hood, Pump Up the Volume, True Romance, Very Bad Things, ... Those are about the best movies he's ever been in and he sucked in most of them.

[P. Cushing]

Hey! He was good in Hitchhiker's! Maybe he's just good at radio.

[Weadazoid]

Hey man I liked the Name of the Rose, and I liked True Romance

but if you want an....actor, who would seem to be an equal to Bale in certain ways

Mr. Penn had always been an interesting choice in my mind.... though he may outshine Bale

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/Joker5.bmp (http://photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/?)

[Two-Face]

I don't think Sean Penn won't "outshine Bale" since Batman Begins is Bale's first Batman movie, in the second movie Bale will be household name as Batman.

[Riven]

Hey man I liked the Name of the Rose, and I liked True Romance
I liked those movies too, but sadly Slater was pretty awful in them.

but if you want an....actor, who would seem to be an equal to Bale in certain ways
Yes, I do. :) Why settle for any less?

[Weadazoid]

I liked those movies too, but sadly Slater was pretty awful in them.

Yes, I do. :) Why settle for any less?


Well then what do you think of Penn? If there is ever to be a Joker in this new sereis, he would be near perfect in my opinion. Would be take the role on in a serious tone, I worry that Jim Carrey or Johnny Depp, may go for too much over the top Nickolson esque over acting.

[Riven]

Sean Penn isn't my first choice, but I DEFINITELY wouldn't mind his casting. It'd be great.

[Sawyer]

William Mapother. His look and his creepiness factor on LOST. He could be good joker.

[Keyser Soze]

Sean Penn is a great actor. The only thing is that Penn is the kind of guy who shies away from blockbusters. And even if he appeared as the Joker, he mgiht not want to come back for sequels...

[shaggyaggie457]

Crispin Glover and Jude Law would be interesting, but I think Benicio Del Toro is the man for the part.

[TheFuture]

I am of the opinion, if it weren't for his age, Steve Buscemi would be perfect. Buscemi is a great actor. We all know he can play a wacko, but he can also play a phsycho murderous wacko.

Just look at what he did in the Sopranos. Absolutely fantastic acting of that character. Mix that character with his usual wacko roles, you have got your Joker.

I also think his look can easily be manipulated to look like the Joker.

[Ron-El]

I think Crispin Glover can portray the madness of the Joker just perfectly. Judging from his previous movies like Willard. I choose Glover!

[Mike_D]

Glover ALL THE WAY...dammit.

[Dark Knight]

Penn would certainly be an inspiring choice.......but i do think Glover would be willing to be in the 3rd film in more of supporting fashion.

[Dark Knight]

God damn.

Cassel would be another great choice! he has the look down pat....and he is a good actor. He was the baddie in Brotherhood of the Wolf....and i believe he was in Oceans 12.

[Dark Knight]

ok here are the top choices IMO for Joker.....

Crispin Glover

Lachey Hulme

Vincent Cassell

Sam Rockwell

[The Guard]

Jim Carrey? No. Adrian Brody is a fantastic actor, but may be too soft-spoken for this role. I'm not sure he has the energy needed for this kind of role. Lachy Hulme, must be the best actor we've ever seen in some way. Otherwise, I'm just not seeing it. Steve Buscemi is more the Scarecrow type. Crispin Glover has the look, but the man has never impressed me as an actor. He's always very broad in his performances, and never really nails anything down, in what I've seen him in. Tim Roth? A good actor, not Joker material. Ditto Alan Cumming.

Honestly, for a sequel, given that you had Liam Neeson in BATMAN BEGINS, I think you're going to need a "name" in the role of The Joker. I think you need Jude Law or Johnny Depp. And I think either of them would excell in the role. As far as Joker goes, you don't need somone who can be spastic and funny. The Joker's real impact comes from when all that falls away from him, and you see what he truly is: and what he truly is, is not funny at all. And Jude Law and Depp are the two men who, I think, can best portray this aspect of The Joker, and make him more than what's on the page.

[DorkyFresh]

Jim Carrey? No.
What's wrong with him other than him being the Riddler already? If that weren't an issue would you still think her wouldn't be good as the Joker?

[The Guard]

No. Too spastic, too many quirks. I like Jim Carrey, I think he's a fantastic actor even outside comedy, but he's very...airy, I guess would be the word. The Joker needs to be someone with a little more weight to him.

[DOO BEE]

and we don't want past series actors, so stop wishing for them!!!

[DOO BEE]

Hey man I liked the Name of the Rose, and I liked True Romance

but if you want an....actor, who would seem to be an equal to Bale in certain ways

Mr. Penn had always been an interesting choice in my mind.... though he may outshine Bale

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/Joker5.bmp (http://photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/?)

sean penn is my dream joker but he won't be chosen, so then my next choice was Nick Stahl who played Junior (AKA THAT YELLOW BASTARD) he was kick ass in sin city he would be awsome as the joker. what do you all fink???

[Cobblepot]

http://www.atworkandbored.com/back_lot_hollywood/motion_picture_publicity/warner_bros/mystic_river/sean_penn.JPG
He would make a good Joker, I agree.

[S_H_F_4839]

I think penn would make a good joker, if glover doesnt get it, glover has been my pick since day 1, but when you think about the name value in the movie the number of names, I think they would be likely to go with someone like penn, I would stand behind that a hundred percent, because I think he would do the role justice, he is my second pick for him.

[Weadazoid]

Penn just has a look that would seem to play more to the Comic book variations of the Joker.

Also the way I see it Penn much like Nick Cage can realy really throw himself into a role, and I get the feeling his Joker would be more true to from then any other onscreen interpretation. Jack was great, but he was WAYYYY over acting, it was too over the top don't get me wrong, Joker is over the top should be, but he should also have his serious moments.


If they could convince him to do it, obviously one gets the feeling they could afford him, and haveing Gary Oleman and Morgan freeman already on board along with Bale, may make it interesting enough for him.


And many of you point to Britney Murphy as a possible Harley Quinn, I still say Balk is your best bet there, her performance in The Waterboy, and The Craft, have me convinced.

Murphy is almost too pretty, and realy almost too nice.

Balk can be beautiful

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/Harley.bmp (http://photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/?)





She can be scarey serious

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/harely2.bmp (http://photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/?)


And at times she can be down right ugly

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/harely3.bmp (http://photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/?)

[super scar]

Balk would be excellent for Harley. Don't forget how mental she was in American History X.

[deDIKnight]

She'd be mine and Pimpernels first choice too


Scots unite!!!!

[Voyeur]

I think Craig Bierko just threw his hat in the Joker ring. In this weekend's edition of USA Weekend - the one that has Christian Bale on the cover - there's an interview with Bierko about his film Cinderella Man, but he adds something interesting in the final paragraph:

"Life is funny," Bierko muses. "For a while I thought all I wanted was a booster rocket to gigantic fame. Now I don't have any illusions about this business. I'd rather be the Joker to Batman - the type of actor who is always good but who is really there to make the star look good."

[Eric Express]

http://www.postalpictures.com/temp/joker.jpg

Crispin Glover is right.

[Eric Express]

Another crack:
http://www.postalpictures.com/temp/joker2.jpg
Original shot:
http://www.postalpictures.com/temp/devilish1.jpg

Conclusion:
Crispin Glover for The Joker.

[bathoodlum76]

You know who is an awesome candiate that I never even thought of. There are two actually. The first is Zach Braff, the lead character from scrubs. He may be a little short (the joker is suppossed to be six five) but if you have seen either scrubs or Garden State you know he is an amazing actor, and I am sure he would have the range to be be evil and manachial. The second is Andy Garcia. He is always capable of being evil. He may be a little old if they want to keep the Joker aroudnd, but he still looks in his thirities. He is one of the best actors to date. He could also play another crime boss (I forget the other major crime family in Gotham) or even Harvey Dent, but he may be a little old. Just a thought, give me your thoughts.

[McGourgh]

You know who is an awesome candiate that I never even thought of. There are two actually. The first is Zach Braff, the lead character from scrubs. He may be a little short (the joker is suppossed to be six five) but if you have seen either scrubs or Garden State you know he is an amazing actor, and I am sure he would have the range to be be evil and manachial. The second is Andy Garcia. He is always capable of being evil. He may be a little old if they want to keep the Joker aroudnd, but he still looks in his thirities. He is one of the best actors to date. He could also play another crime boss (I forget the other major crime family in Gotham) or even Harvey Dent, but he may be a little old. Just a thought, give me your thoughts.
I think Zach Braff looks way too young for this role. He´s 30, but he looks younger then this, like in the early 20s. I don´t think they can change this with make up and stuff. But I do think he´s very talented though.
Garcia would be a nice choice for a part of one of the mafia families, like you said, one of the crime bosses, I couldn´t see him as the Joker though.

[Weadazoid]

I don't know why I just don't feel Chrisitan is right. I don't think I could ever take him seriously enough as the Joker, he looks the part but the way he carries himself on screen, I have a bad feeling about what his Joker would be like.

In my opinion they need a weighty performance, as Bale is so very seriously in tuned to what Batman.

THey need someone who can be insane and yet at that same time increadibly convinceing and appealing. J depp could do it but agian I woryy about the weight of the performance.

Glover would just feel to comical at times to me to airy. Jack was more a cartoon then crazy man when you look back on it, evil for sure but there was no sense of dread with him on screen.

The thing I loved about Retruns was hey Penguin gave off dread Devito's performance was just comic book enough but there was a true vile sesne of dread with him on screen, not so much a what is he going to do next feel you got with Joker, as a feeling of disgust.

JOKER IS THE MOST VILE SOCIOPATH IN THE PAGES OF COMIC BOOKS. If Batman Begins is what I feel it will be this is the kind of Joker they will need.

[Dark Knight]

i don't like Balk though....because it always seems like she is playing the same roles over and over again. She is ugly also....IMO....she looks dirty....ugh. I would rather see Brittany Murphy be Harley.

[Dark Knight]

i love Depp as an actor....but the Joker role would be too close to his Wonka performance wouldn't it?? It would interesting to see what Penn, Depp and Law would bring to the film. These actors should be looked at first. If not them...then the second tier choices should be looke at......Rockwell, Cassell, Hulme, Glover.

[Keyser Soze]

I'm not sure exactly who I'd like to see in the role. There are a few very good choices. But one thing I'm sure of is that they are not going to top Jack Nicholson in terms of charismatic showboating, so they shouldn't even try.

I saw go for a copmletely different approach. A common misconception about The joker is that h'e funny. He's NOT funny. The guy should be really scary. So, rather than going with the crimelord route of the Tim Burton film, I say make him into a vile, psychotic killer - as extreme as you can get away with in a 12A movie.

Once you've got that interpretation straight, the casting choices could rise out of that.

[the_ultimate_evil]

a werid idea no matter who is cast should hamill dubb there voice lol


i never seen birds of prey so i have no idea how well that actully worked when they did it

[Dark Knight]

Depp as Joker is really starting to grow on me now. When i write down the potential cast for the sequel and write Depp down compared to the others.....it just feels right ya know? Plus I'm sure most of us have always wanted him to be in a Batman feature film....and you know Nolan would be able to bring him onboard. Then get Liev Schrieber as Dent in a supporting role.....Brittany Murphy possibly as Depps lovey pooh Harley Quinn....and then Beckinsale as Talia in a mysterious background role and bam! Another awesome cast for the awesome sequel!

[Timstuff]

Forget Hulme, forget Depp, and forget Glover! I found the perfect joker; Bomb Voyage from The Increadibles! :D

http://www.oikourgos.com/sonic/images/bombvoyage.jpg

[PeteVenkman]

Hey, not trying to kill anyone's buzz on here, but I wanted to weigh in on the Joker. I really hope that they go with someone thats not in this poll. Most of the options are decent, but none of them strike me as "Wow, I could really see him doing the Joker extremely well." I trust that whoever they cast will do a great job, be it someone on this list or some unknown. That being said, I love coming in to casting threads and hearing peoples reasons behind casting a certain actor. Keep it up guys.

[shaggyaggie457]

Tim Roth is too melancholy looking. And Lachy Hulme's face isn't built right for it. I go with Jude Law. Might I remind everyone of his character in Road to Perdition? Silent, but creepy nonetheless.

Also, I think it would be cool, but I doubt it would work, Benicio Del Toro, just cause he looks kind of joker like except the eyes.

[william_blake05]

John Malkovich!!!!

[bweurk]

Cassel's married to Monica Belluci (She's mine dammit - shakes fist - lol), and has starred in Brotherhood of the Wolf, Joan Of Arc and Blueberry among many films

He can act well but has a french accent

But that grin wow I feel inspired - lol

his father was in Superman 2... did you know that?

[shaggyaggie457]

Also, as far as Crispin Glover goes, I just can't see George McFly as the Joker. I'd expect to see Biff come in and knock on his head or something.

[Boom]

I'm finding myself more and more of a "Sam Rockwell as Joker" supporter.

[The Guard]

Law or Depp. Mark my words. :)

[deDIKnight]

Originally Posted by deDIKnight
Cassel's married to Monica Belluci (She's mine dammit - shakes fist - lol), and has starred in Brotherhood of the Wolf, Joan Of Arc and Blueberry among many films

He can act well but has a french accent

But that grin wow I feel inspired - lol


Originally posted by Bweurk

his father was in Superman 2... did you know that?





Nope - Who was his Papa in Supes 2?

[Captain_Obvious]

I still don't know who the **** I want for Joker :confused: :( :mad:

[Zues4Life]

I think that Jim Carrey would do a good job as the Joker but if the Joker is in the sequel to Batman Begins,he should be able to handle Batman in hand to hand combat.Johnny Depp would also do a good job in the role of the Joker.He's a great actor.

[DorkyFresh]

but if the Joker is in the sequel to Batman Begins,he should be able to handle Batman in hand to hand combat.
Joker should NEVER be able to even stand a CHANCE against Batman when it comes to hand to hand combat (no weapons). Joker was never a physical fighter...he fights with his sadistic brain...not his muscles.

[Batman is cool]

love Depp as an actor....but the Joker role would be too close to his Wonka performance wouldn't it?? It would interesting to see what Penn, Depp and Law would bring to the film. These actors should be looked at first. If not them...then the second tier choices should be looke at......Rockwell, Cassell, Hulme, Glover.

Last time I checked, Willy Wonka wasn't a psychotic homicidal artist lol. DEPP FOR JOKER DAMMIT!

[Captain_Obvious]

I think that Jim Carrey would do a good job as the Joker but if the Joker is in the sequel to Batman Begins,he should be able to handle Batman in hand to hand combat.Johnny Depp would also do a good job in the role of the Joker.He's a great actor.

but I want a sadistic Joker...not some goofy dumb**** who didn't recieve his ritalin intake for the day.

[bweurk]

Nope - Who was his Papa in Supes 2?

he is the french general in the White House scene (uncredited)

here is a picture of Jean Pierre Cassel (not from Superman 2)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/benuel_chavez/lemoutonenrage5.jpg

he doesn't even speak in the movie... i couldn't understand for years why he was in this movie.. i remeber seeing Superman 2 on tv and then i was like "wtf.... Jean Pierre Cassel??????? what the hell is he doing in this movie?????"
I now think he was hired by Richard Lester because he was the king in Lester's "three musketeers"

[Keyser Soze]

I saw "Sin City" this weekend (twice - what a great movie). Anyway, there is this scene where Dwight and Jackie Boy are in a car together. And all throughout this scene, I couldn't even focus on the conversation. All I could think was "Oh my God - Benecio Del Toro IS THe Joker!"

Now, because of his approach to blockbuster fare - much like Sean Penn - I'm not sure if Del Toro would be the best choice for The Joker. But I have to say that he has entered my top shortlist for potential candidates to be The Joker.

[Dark Guardian]

Oddly enough, I'd keep exactly the way he was in '89.
(Even down to the actor if Jack Nicholson wasn't so old.)
Jack Nicholson's performance kicked total butt, and so far he's the best. None of the choices above really would fit.
Tim Curry might pull it off, with alot of coaching.
But anyways, about suit and stuff, standard attire from '89.
The only issue I have with the Joker in 89 is he was really pathetic in the end. Yes, he can't beat Batman hand to hand, and the whole punching the stomach and wincing thing really was great, but he should have put up a little more of a fight, just a little.
Jim Carrey would suck as the Joker, because he doesn't have the seriousnous. Joker is wild, crazy, but he has a serious side to him, sometimes VERY serious if you've read No Man's Land. He is very brilliant and consider's his options well. Sure, he does the whole laughing hysterically and jumping around stuff, but he's also concerned with being very slick, stylish and meaningful.
Thus the purple suit.
So, bring back Jack if possible. If not, have Jack coach Tim Curry and try to have him pull it off.

[Keyser Soze]

Ideally, we could build a time machine, go back in time 30 years, and kidnap Jack Nicholson from the set of "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest". Then, we bring him to the present day and force him at gunpoint to be The Joker in the next Batman movie.

But sadly, that isn't going to happen. And now, at 68, I'd say Jack Nicholson is far too old to play The Joker. We need someone no older than their mid 40s to play the role. I'd say right now my top choices would be:

Benecio Del Toro
Johnny Depp
Sean Penn

However, there are some other good choices out there who could be great for the part as well. Yes, Jack Nicholson was an amazing Joker, but we need to look to a new generation of actors in order to cast the next Joker.

[Dark Guardian]

Well, Jonny Depp is out, I mean...no. He just couldn't fit as the Joker. He may think he can, but his general..presence is just too different.
Del Toro...eh, maaaaaaaaaaaybe.
Sean Penn...uh, not without some serious plastic surgery...nah.

[Wolverine_05]

Del Torro's accent is just too thick.

[JonO]

He's been nominated for 6 Golden Globes and won twice for dramatic roles.

He's been nominated once for a BAFTA (the British Oscar) and a Screen Actors Guild Award.

Anyone who has followed his career arc from sketch comedy to nominated roles opposite accomplished actors could reasonably argue that he has the chops to pull off the dramatic and comedic demands of a character like the Joker.

After all....










he's come a long way since....








playing the too-over-the-top Riddler in Batman Forever.







I would trust Jim Carrey with the role of the Joker, but i think his price tag would be prohibitive. I would love to see him as the maniacal and menacing Clown Prince of Crime. Sadly, I'm sure it won't happen.

Give me Justin Theroux or Adrien Brody. I'm afraid Crispin doesn't have the magnetism to pull off a role like this.

[deDIKnight]

Heres another Contender that hasnt been mentioned

Gareth from "The Office" - Brit Comedy Actor Mackenzie Crook

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/jokermackenzie.jpg

He was recently in the Hollywood Blockbuster "Pirates Of The Caribbean"

He played the skinny black pearl pirate with the wooden eyeball

[Keyser Soze]

I love Mackenzie Crook to bits, but I'm not sure if he has the magnetic presence to play The Joker.

And Benecio Del Toro doesn't have an accent. It's just that he is often cast in roles that require him to put on a thick accent.

[P. Cushing]

Exactly. It's not like he had a thick accent in THE HUNTED.

[Mr. Beck]

was he ever supposed to be funny to us? i thought the only one who got his jokes was himself, and he made fun of other people because they don't get the joke

[Dark Knight]

Here is the list candidates for Joker that should be considered.....in my particular order of preference....

1. Johnny Depp- great actor, and that idea is starting to grow on me. Always wanted him to be part of a Batman film....like how i wanted Oldman and Neeson always involved. Would also be a solid name replacement for Neeson. Can play the quirky maniacal type with no problem

2. Sean Penn- Another great actor who would be be interesting choice...who can probably flourish in this type of role.

3. Vincent Cassell- this man has the face of Joker down pat....and he is a solid actor. Probably not a big enough name for the role of Joker.

4. Jude Law- he has the flexibility and range to do the role justice.....but i would prefer the above ahead of him. He would probably be a better Riddler, if he were ever to be introduced in these series of films.

5. Crispin Glover- he is already quirky and a bit of a looney in real life....and i'm sure he would do a good job....but i would choose Depp and Penn ahead of him anyday of the week.

6. Sam Rockwell- can flourish playing the maniacal looney type but i would have rather had him be ZsasZ.

[Dark Knight]

Heres another Contender that hasnt been mentioned

Gareth from "The Office" - Brit Comedy Actor Mackenzie Crook

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/jokermackenzie.jpg

He was recently in the Hollywood Blockbuster "Pirates Of The Caribbean"

He played the skinny black pearl pirate with the wooden eyeball


maybe this guy should be considered for Mad Hatter instead....? lol

[Dark Donnie]

movies.com says penn and roth are the top canidates, I don't know how reliable they are though?

[DC/MARVEL]

I would love to see a pure evil, and diabolical Joker on the big screen, if he is choosen next for the sequel. (I'd rather see other villian first.) But if they went with The Joker I like the look of him in the Batman Dead End Short Film:


http://www.starland.com/news/2003/images/030724joker.jpg

I think that is a great look with the straight jacket, but eventually get him out of the straight jacket and into the famous purple attire, but not a bright purple, more of a dark purple. And of course he would have to be insanely funny, not too campy or over the top, but just insane to the point where your like whoa, and it sends shivers down your spine when your watching him on the screen.

I am not really sure who I would go with for an actor on The Joker, I will get back to you on that one.

Great official Joker thread by the way.

This scared the ba-jesus out of me! This look is perfect!

[Dark Knight]

movies.com says penn and roth are the top canidates, I don't know how reliable they are though?


really? sweet....i could see Roth also...i just don't want a rushed commitment to Glover or Lachey Hulme just yet....when there are so many better actors out there. I mean this BEGINS film has Neeson and Watanabe as main baddies.....why would Nolan and crew want to settle for less talent in the sequel to play the Joker? For the role of Dent they can go with Liev Schrieber since chances are Dent will not become Two Face until the end of the sequel anyhow. Schrieber can take the place of Cillian Murphy. A lesser known yet solid actor who will do well in the role...instead of dealing with Guy Pearces' ridiculous ego.....

[twinfrodo]

I'm not sure at all. I mean Batman Begins seems to be going down an uber serious route (which I like) and that's the complete oppisite of the 3rd and 4th's of the other batman movies direction and that's probably why they didn't choose to do the Joker in the first one. It is going to be difficult you have to have a balance of belivity (Spelling???) and staying true to the character. I think Mercedes Mcnab who played Harmony on Buffy and Angel would be a good choice for Harly Quine though.

[Two-Face]

instead of dealing with Guy Pearces' ridiculous ego.....


Guy Pearce is good actor, surely you can't deny that I think he will be great as Harvey Dent, he has been directed by Chris Nolan in Memento movie You think Pearce will over shadow Christian Bale? I don't think he will since Bale will be a star with first Batman Begins movie already.

[deDIKnight]

Dark Knight -- ---You said Jude LAw?

I'd rather take Mckenzie Crook and all the rest over Jude LAw anyday of the week

The guy is a human vacuum sucking the life out of every part he's been in

Name ONE role he truly excelled in?

He's the male equivalent of Jennifer Connelly to me

Pretty people - but easily better actors can play their roles

[deDIKnight]

Mind you I hate to say it - he was pretty good in Road To Perdition

But again there's other actors like Stuart Townsend, Jonathan Rhys Meyers etc that have that pretty boy psycho look and are just as good as Law if not better in the acting stakes

[deDIKnight]

http://www.starland.com/news/2003/images/030724joker.jpg

This Joker is one of the best ones i've seen on film

The only bad thing is his Dead Caterpillar eyebrows

Without eyesbrows or drawn on eye brows look creepier

Do y'all know that guy that plays the Joker in Dead End is Chekov from StarTrek - Walter Koenigs son?

[deDIKnight]

Originally posted by Keyser Soze


I love Mackenzie Crook to bits, but I'm not sure if he has the magnetic presence to play The Joker.

And Benecio Del Toro doesn't have an accent. It's just that he is often cast in roles that require him to put on a thick accent.


I agree Del Toro's a wonderful actor and can play anything

That bit in Sin City where he was beside dwight and his voice kept going up and down and that maniacal laugh spoke JOKER to me too

[Dark Knight]

Guy Pearce is good actor, surely you can't deny that I think he will be great as Harvey Dent, he has been directed by Chris Nolan in Memento movie You think Pearce will over shadow Christian Bale? I don't think he will since Bale will be a star with first Batman Begins movie already.


don't get me wrong....Pearce is my #1 choice to be Dent/Two Face also....however, i'm losing confidence that he would join the production because of his lack of respect for "comic" films (which is a silly attitude to have especially with Nolans take on Batman) if Nolan can't persuade Pearce to come onboard then Schrieber would be another excellent choice to play Harvey.

[Dark Knight]

Dark Knight -- ---You said Jude LAw?

I'd rather take Mckenzie Crook and all the rest over Jude LAw anyday of the week

The guy is a human vacuum sucking the life out of every part he's been in

Name ONE role he truly excelled in?

He's the male equivalent of Jennifer Connelly to me

Pretty people - but easily better actors can play their roles


hey....i like Jennifer Connelly.....she is awesome! Okay and in regard to Law.....granted some his roles are not that great....but the ones that standout was the robot he played in AI.....the guy in Cold Mountain and the sick hitman he played in Road to Perdition.

[Dark Knight]

Mind you I hate to say it - he was pretty good in Road To Perdition

But again there's other actors like Stuart Townsend, Jonathan Rhys Meyers etc that have that pretty boy psycho look and are just as good as Law if not better in the acting stakes


from what i have heard Townsend is real A-Hole!

[Keyser Soze]

Glad to hear other people liking Benecio Del Toro.

Penn and Roth are rumoured to be top candidates? While physically, they don't match the tall and skinny mould of The Joker, I wouldn't mind either being cast in the role. Roth has been low profile for a few years, but the villain he played in "Rob Roy" was one of my all-time faves. And Penn is the Robert DeNiro of our generation, and a good name to have aboard the movie.

And Two Face, what is your opinion on the other candidate I suggested for Two-Face over on the Two-Face Casting Thread? I suggested it as a possible alternative, but the more I tihnk about it, the more I think I like him more in th erole than Pearce and maybe even Schrieber.

[Dark Knight]

Glad to hear other people liking Benecio Del Toro.

Penn and Roth are rumoured to be top candidates? While physically, they don't match the tall and skinny mould of The Joker, I wouldn't mind either being cast in the role. Roth has been low profile for a few years, but the villain he played in "Rob Roy" was one of my all-time faves. And Penn is the Robert DeNiro of our generation, and a good name to have aboard the movie.

And Two Face, what is your opinion on the other candidate I suggested for Two-Face over on the Two-Face Casting Thread? I suggested it as a possible alternative, but the more I tihnk about it, the more I think I like him more in th erole than Pearce and maybe even Schrieber.


who was that? I just don't see Benecio as ideal Joker material....but that is probably because i want to see Benecio as Bane. He just has to bulk up and get in the best shape of his life.

[Weadazoid]

I would almost suggest Bruce Cambel as Two face, or if they wanted to go with more star power, go with that ugy that played Jezus.

He looks like a good Dent


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/2face.bmp (http://photobucket.com/albums/y59/wead/?)
)

[DOO BEE]

after i watched sin city for the 100th time, i think the scene where jackie boy is talking to Dwight in his head that is a joker moment, i loved that scene, Benecio Del Toro is one of my faves now

[deDIKnight]

Originally posted by Dark Knight

who was that? I just don't see Benecio as ideal Joker material....but that is probably because i want to see Benecio as Bane. He just has to bulk up and get in the best shape of his life.


I said Benicio del Toro is good for Joker too - watch Sin City again and his segment as Jackie boy - and look at James Bond - Licence To Kill (his first role as a baddy - a skinny, grinning psycho)
And apart from VOICE - Benecio's wrong for Bane - Danny Trejo or Joaquim Al Meida are better Bane voice choices

Voice and anothers body worked for Darth Vader - Bane can be played thus

Originally posted by Dark Knight
From what i have heard Townsend is real A-Hole!

And Jude Law isnt? - His treatment of ex-wife Sadie Frost?And theres been a lot of stories about his attitude too
The fact that a guy may be an A-hole or not - doesnt mean they are a good actor

I just dont rate Law as an actor of note, all his characters could easily be played by those others I mentioned

I dont see him as the Joker AT ALL

[TimDrake64x]

but his attitude does affect the set and how other actors blend with him on screen, u cant say that attitude doesnt affect a movie. look at anthony michael hal's movies after breakfast club (excluding edward scissorhands)

[P. Cushing]

He's the male equivalent of Jennifer Connelly to me

Pretty and talented?

[Dark Knight]

Originally posted by Dark Knight


I said Benicio del Toro is good for Joker too - watch Sin City again and his segment as Jackie boy - and look at James Bond - Licence To Kill (his first role as a baddy - a skinny, grinning psycho)
And apart from VOICE - Benecio's wrong for Bane - Danny Trejo or Joaquim Al Meida are better Bane voice choices

Voice and anothers body worked for Darth Vader - Bane can be played thus

Originally posted by Dark Knight


And Jude Law isnt? - His treatment of ex-wife Sadie Frost?And theres been a lot of stories about his attitude too
The fact that a guy may be an A-hole or not - doesnt mean they are a good actor

I just dont rate Law as an actor of note, all his characters could easily be played by those others I mentioned

I dont see him as the Joker AT ALL


your right....i'm starting to think Law would be better as Riddler. Depp, Penn or Roth for Joker! I haven't heard Law being difficult to work with......i have heard that Townsend thinks he is gods gift to acting....but he is not....when he is on the set shooting.

[deDIKnight]

Well trust me he can be difficult to work with, maybe he aint like that anymore but he was at least as cocky as Townsend once upon a time....

He just strikes me as a young terrance stamp - very similar voice too

And while stamp these days is a good actor maybe Law will get there too

And yeah man from one knight to another - I agree with you

Jude would be best served as the Riddler

But even then his American accent isnt half as good as his fellow country men

Still, I guess it would be kinda nice from a history of film viewpoint to see the Alfies - (Caine and Law) in a movie together

Still not sure about Sean Penn - he's a great actor and all - but he's dour faced as hell

You need someone with a Psycho stare and a killer grin

Roth, Depp and Del Toro have that down in spades man

[deDIKnight]

Originally Posted by deDIKnight
He's the male equivalent of Jennifer Connelly to me



Originally posted by Peter Cushing

Pretty and talented?

No Pretty, and gets too much work, is what I mean

I Dont rate Jennifer Connelly either - again any film either are in, it could be any other actor replacing them in that role

They dont make parts their own - they just do fine and i see the actor not the character

What I mean is people dont say about them no one could have played that part except **insert GREAT ACTOR in here**

Depp has that, Roth has that, Dafoe has that, Del Toro has that

[TheJuice]

I think Tim Roth would be good from that list. Off of that list, I'd thrown in Tim Curry (Pennywise The Dancing Clown from "IT") or Geoffrey Rush. Both are good character actors.

[GoldGoblin]

What if they made the Joker an albino in the movie.

[deDIKnight]

I've been saying that same thing for a while and it holds merit

That explains his pale skin with out acid baths etc

Another way to explain his ghastly appearance is ingestion of chemicals - Drugs

Ever seen someone with a severe iron deficiency?

Dark yellow teeth and near translucent skin

The lips and hair could be affectations to round off the clown look

Thats if they want to go more "real world" again

[kirbyfan]

The absolute perfect actor to play the joker is none other than Willem Dafoe! He already looks like the Joker, so imagine what he would look like when they put him in full costume!!

He's an excellent actor, and he can definitely be sinister, deranged, funny, and downright evil, all required to be the Joker!!

[Two-Face]

The absolute perfect actor to play the joker is none other than Willem Dafoe! He already looks like the Joker, so imagine what he would look like when they put him in full costume!!

He's an excellent actor, and he can definitely be sinister, deranged, funny, and downright evil, all required to be the Joker!!


he's Green Goblin in Spider-Man 1 people know him and i doubt he will play Joker but WB are looking for young version of Joker to match Bale's Batman.

[P. Cushing]

The absolute perfect actor to play the joker is none other than Willem Dafoe! He already looks like the Joker, so imagine what he would look like when they put him in full costume!!

He's an excellent actor, and he can definitely be sinister, deranged, funny, and downright evil, all required to be the Joker!!
Excellent choice.
http://biografieonline.it/img/bio/Willem_Dafoe.jpg

[Aetherus]

http://home.comcast.net/~aetherus/images/brody_01.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~aetherus/images/joker_01.jpg

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[TheJuice]

Tim Curry

http://www.eekthecat.nl/EEKmat/carc/tim.jpg

http://www.j0k3r.it/images/joker.jpg


Geoffrey Rush

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/mystery_men/geoffrey_rush/mm.jpg

http://ffmedia.ign.com/batman/multimedia/joker-comic.jpg

[matrix_ghost]

Here's some interesting news around the casting of the joker ,courtesy of darkhorizons :

"I wanted to clear up a few things that I've been reading about the casting of the 'NEXT' Batman movie. It's an unfair situation - but this how these things work, ok....

They're not letting any unknowns test for the villains of the next movie. NO official casting has begun, ONLY the odd meeting. They will be looking at securing names AFTER the release of Begins.

Christian Bale was/is enough of a gamble ("Reign of Fire" and "Equilibrium" made about a buck combined!), so, like this one, Warner are surrounding him with 'famous' faces. They've got their wish-list, and that's it. This guy, Lachy Hulme, it sounds like his people are pushing him more than Warner wants him - an unlikely chance, same with Crispin Glover, whose agent (not surprised) is pushing him ON Warner.

I've tried to get through to the powers-that-be that there's a couple of great actors on my agency's books that they should consider, but have been told by an exec there that it isn't worth pushing, because they have their wish-list, and it's got 'NAME ONLY' imprinted on it.

Honestly though, there's nothing, no-one really being considered at the moment....Mark Hamill's name has been casually mentioned due to his huge popularity in the cartoons as The Joker. Robin Williams, Sandler....your usual suspects"

[Two-Face]

Crispin Glover would be good Joker Robin Williams seems old to play Joker.

[P. Cushing]

Here's some interesting news around the casting of the joker ,courtesy of darkhorizons :

"I wanted to clear up a few things that I've been reading about the casting of the 'NEXT' Batman movie. It's an unfair situation - but this how these things work, ok....

They're not letting any unknowns test for the villains of the next movie. NO official casting has begun, ONLY the odd meeting. They will be looking at securing names AFTER the release of Begins.

Christian Bale was/is enough of a gamble ("Reign of Fire" and "Equilibrium" made about a buck combined!), so, like this one, Warner are surrounding him with 'famous' faces. They've got their wish-list, and that's it. This guy, Lachy Hulme, it sounds like his people are pushing him more than Warner wants him - an unlikely chance, same with Crispin Glover, whose agent (not surprised) is pushing him ON Warner.

I've tried to get through to the powers-that-be that there's a couple of great actors on my agency's books that they should consider, but have been told by an exec there that it isn't worth pushing, because they have their wish-list, and it's got 'NAME ONLY' imprinted on it.

Honestly though, there's nothing, no-one really being considered at the moment....Mark Hamill's name has been casually mentioned due to his huge popularity in the cartoons as The Joker. Robin Williams, Sandler....your usual suspects"
I'd take that with a massive pinch of salt

[kang604]

actually now tat i think if it.

Del Toro I think would be perfect, but, he may be too old.

[DCMARVEL]

Johnny Depp

[fueldcruel]

Willem Dafoe seems a good choice... but there is the fact that he was the Goblin... His great acting would really pull it off. Crispin Glover could work. No to Robin Williams. Del Toro looks ok but I'm afraid I might not understand what he says, he mumbles a lot. Johnny Depp's too big of a star, could overshadow Batman like B89. Tim Curry actually looks great. I dunno anything about Lachy Hulme. Jude Law, too english.

[DorkyFresh]

After watching Batman Begins and seeing the mood and feel of the movie......I can automatically disqualify a few actors and if the sequel comes out and one of these actors gets the part, then I'll say I was totally wrong but here's who I think wouldn't get the part judging from the feel of Batman Begins (if Nolan comes back, that is)...

Willem Dafoe
Jim Carrey
Johnny Depp
Mark Hamil

Guys who I could imagine Nolan working with are the follows...

Crispin Glover
Tim Roth
Hugo Weaving
Vincent Gallo
Jude Law

Guys who I can't really imagine Nolan working with but are STILL a possibility are...

Lachy Hulme
Benicio Del Torro

[DorkyFresh]

Jude Law, too english.
And Christian Bale/Cillian Murphy/Gary Oldman aren't???

Remember....Joker doesn't exactly have a straight head on his shoulders so him having a British accent could actually lend to his madness. Hell, Mark Hamil's Joker even has a TOUCH of a British accent...


...not to mention Jude Law HAS played an American before.

[GREEN =w= DAY]

if only Jack Nicholson was 30 years younger... :(

[kansas boy]

What about Christian Slater, he'd be perfect and he has that same look as Jack Nicholson. He's definitely got that smile, that were looking for.

Christian Slater needs to be added to your poll.

[Edd Extraordinaire]

Slater is a has-been. He is garbage to most people, and to me as well. Not only this, but he could never pull off the Joker. I still think that Glover is the best choice if he could beef up his voice, and not look so scared as he usually does.

[kansas boy]

Well, I would like to hear what others have to say about him, for one, he's old enough. How old is Bale? Anyways, here are my choices for the sequels, these are for fun.

Some of these are funny, but think about it:

Christian Slater - The Joker (Definitely) Seriously
Jack Black - The Penguin (maybe) Ridiculous, lol
Paul Ruebens - The Riddler (Pee-Wee Herman) Think about this one.
Nicholas Cage - Two Face (Remember Face/Off) Too old.

Catwoman - As long as she's hotter in leather than Michelle was, I don't care.

[Gamma Ray]

NO MORE JIM CARREY! Not in any more Batman films at least.

[DDRSkata]

Tim Roth or Johnny Depp.

[william_blake05]

Come on people, Johnny Depp is a great actor but as the Joker he'd be just plain wrong.

They are going to cast an actor who is GENUINELY menacing and insane looking. The Joker cannot be portrayed by some pretty-faced actor.

That's why I say JOHN MALKOVICH biatches.

[Weadazoid]

Johnny would bring us a new over the top version a clone of Jack.

Give the role to Penn he will create, and inovate

[william_blake05]

Actually the more I think about it Penn isn't a bad idea.
But does he do big studio movies?
And would 'method' acting work for Joker??!

[Dark Knight]

Come on people, Johnny Depp is a great actor but as the Joker he'd be just plain wrong.

They are going to cast an actor who is GENUINELY menacing and insane looking. The Joker cannot be portrayed by some pretty-faced actor.

That's why I say JOHN MALKOVICH biatches.


I think Penn would look very menacing as Joker......with his eyebrows high and curled in that scary looking way....and with his face all intense and freaky looking. I think his method acting would do well for the role of Joker.

[American_Idiot]

Again, Jason Lee. Willem Dafoe would have been great, but he IS already Green Goblin in my eyes and millions of other movie-goers. I wouldn't be upset if he did land the part, I'd just rather see it go to someone such as Mr. Lee.

I don't believe that if you've played one comic book character in a movie, you should never be allowed to play another, but with both movies being blockbusters with only a few years in between, it'd almost be like casting Christian Bale as Captain America and back to Batman the following year.

Adrian Brody as Joker? I don't see it at all. He has more of a "Mad Hatter" type nose/face, but would probably be too tall and lanky for the role.

Jason Lee was born for this role. He has the same facial structure as the Joker, the same build, has played characters similar to the Joker (Azrael in Dogma), has the whole villain persona down (Syndrome in the Incredibles), is friends with Kevin Smith (who loves Batman), and reads comics himself. Oh, and he's about the right age fans are looking for. He's perfect for the Joker!

[The Techno Bat]

Crispin Glover will be the Joker in Batman 2!

[william_blake05]

Jason Lee = too self-effacing & not enough dramatic chops

[snldude84]

Seeing as the Joker's history has been construed in so many ways it seems likely Nolan and Goyer can do whatever they want with his origin. I mean Burton had Napier as the murderer of the Waynes.

So it seems evident that Rutger Hauer will be the Joker. Noone has a better face for it. Though there are chronological issues here. So I can't say for sure. But Hauer certainly looks like the J man and has some great acting chops. His "theatrics" never better evident in Buffy the Vamp slayer.

[batdude]

Johnny Depp as the Joker!

[litlgreendude]

I want to see a very theatrical joker like in batman 89. I wish jack nichelson would come back, but thats not gonna happen.
Jim carrey sounds like he would be a good insane joker. I seriously doubt he would take the role though.

[DACrowe]

Mark Hammil.

[The Kid]

yes, yes, that would be splendid.

all of these choices is based on looks... no one thinks of who has the right voice or over-under-below-sideways-acting skills except those who root for carrey. Too bad he's already played the joker in Batman forever... yes, that wasn't no damn riddler he was playing...

:joker:

make-up can do wonderful things :cool:...

Hamill DAMMIT!!!

[Slipping_Halo]

You guys don't have Vincent Gallo on the poll. I think he's a good actor, mostly independent stuff, and looks creepily the part as well as has had a desire to play the Joker his entire life. You can't buy that kind of passion.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/slippinghalo0/untitled.bmphttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/slippinghalo0/joker04.jpg

[Weadazoid]

Actually the more I think about it Penn isn't a bad idea.
But does he do big studio movies?
And would 'method' acting work for Joker??!


Well if they can keep Nolan as the director and Bale as the Bat, I think he may be enticed enough to come aboard if given the opportunity

[Quietstorm]

My top two guys are Crispin Glover and Adrian Brody, with Glover being number one.

Some other guys:

Benecio Del Toro
Jude Law
Vincent Gallo.

Someone mentioned Hugo Weaving? Not a bad idea.

[Antonello Blueberry]

Adrien Brody is an Oscar winner and that makes him a front runner for the role.

[baronghede]

You guys don't have Vincent Gallo on the poll. I think he's a good actor, mostly independent stuff, and looks creepily the part as well as has had a desire to play the Joker his entire life. You can't buy that kind of passion.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/slippinghalo0/untitled.bmphttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/slippinghalo0/joker04.jpg

I have been saying this for a year.
www.vincentgallo.com
He is a huge prick (read his site) but an amazing actor. His email is on there and I emailed him saying he is a somewhat fan fave and he should look into. He responed by saying "i'll look into it." God I hope he gets it.

[BK]

I have been saying this for a year.
www.vincentgallo.com (http://www.vincentgallo.com)
He is a huge prick (read his site) but an amazing actor. His email is on there and I emailed him saying he is a somewhat fan fave and he should look into. He responed by saying "i'll look into it." God I hope he gets it.
I just read his contact page....what in the hell...? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/006.gif

[Quietstorm]

I just read his contact page....what in the hell...? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/006.gif

Dayuumm. He said:

"Please don't tell me about the film you're going to make one day. I'll be dead long before that happens, any day now maybe."

Ouch :o

[BK]

The funniest bit is when he implied that he only wants hot chicks to write to him, and basically told everyone else to "**** off!". http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Dex4788/Smilies/Laughing/001.gif

[Quietstorm]

I've heard that Gallo is difficult to work with, I believe it :D

It would be interesting to see how he and Bale would get along.

[kid jericho]

I searched through this thread, and couldn't find it (might of missed it), but does anyone have the manips of Jude Law as The Joker?

[DrewBanger]

Wow, I never thought of that Gallo guy. Maybe if he and Bale actually didn't like each other, it would work for the film's chemistry.

Anyway, I think he's a good actor, and I think that Hulme DOES look like the Joker.

I can't see Crispin Glover as the Joker, though. He just doesn't scare me at all. I'd rather have Hulme, even though I've only seen him in his short-lived Matrix scenes, but he would be more believable as an unknown than Glover, who I only see as McFly!

I hope Jim Carrey doesn't get involved.

I'm down w/ Tim Roth, or Benecio Del Toro; Adrian Brody seems like too big a puss (but he's got the chops); what do you guys think about Christopher Ecclesten?

[Spider-Fan]

I personally think that Johnny Depp would be perfect for the Joker. Whoever they get, he must be right. The Joker must not be toned down, he must have a clear plan, and he must be creepy yet funny at the same time. They must get the Joker right. After watching Batman Begins, I am quite certain Nolan will get him right.

[jamie_mcgonigle]

Vincent Gallo would be extremely interesting, if he is willing to give it a shot I think he should be tested.

Also, I think Warner Bros/Nolan should SCREEN TEST a variety of actors, the fan favorites and additionally some lesser/unknown actors, maybe they'll find someone we haven't even thought of. Nobody should be closed to the idea of finding a Joker after testing several hundred actors rather than just a pick of names.

[Quietstorm]

Can someone manip this?

http://www.gossipnews.it/cinema/sundance2005/images/Adrian_Brody_in__The_Jacket__18.jpg

[goaliebat]

I was just curious what people thought on who whould play the joker in the inevitable sequel. I couldn't think of anyone but Jim Carrey.

[Boom]

...Sequels Board :(.

[SuperVillain79]

I was just curious what people thought on who whould play the joker in the inevitable sequel. I couldn't think of anyone but Jim Carrey.

No big names for the Joker,go for a good character actor,you can't lose.Look at Spider-man 2 Alfred Molina really capture the Dr. Octopus character.

[The Kid]

I will play JOKER

[Riven]

My choices for the Joker would include:

Ralph Fiennes, Vincent Gallo, Adrien Brody or Christopher Eccleston.

[jamie_mcgonigle]

I hadn't even thought of Eccleston, very interesting choice. I would stay away from Ralph Fiennes, I adore him as an actor but after seeing him in Red Dragon I'd rather not see him take on a loony again (though that was under the guidance of a completely dead-in-the-water director, which Nolan of course is not).

Gallo, Brody and Eccleston are all very strong choices and should all be tested for the part.

[Riven]

I will play JOKERHave you got a resume? :D

[griffolyon12]

Johnny Depp would be an excellent choice,I feel he is a good enough actor to pull off that part I mean Joker is a real important role and you need a guy who can do it good.The only problem is he is a big name and having him in this might steal the show from Bale who is the definitive Batman.Regardless,I feel that he'd be the perfect choice.

[Agentdemon]

I'm not sure if this pic has been posted but from it I think Golver would be insanely good at joker.

http://www.villainousvamps.com/crispinjoker.jpg

[Joseph_Freefall]

I randomly picked on...

[Riven]

I hadn't even thought of Eccleston, very interesting choice. I would stay away from Ralph Fiennes, I adore him as an actor but after seeing him in Red Dragon I'd rather not see him take on a loony again (though that was under the guidance of a completely dead-in-the-water director, which Nolan of course is not).

Gallo, Brody and Eccleston are all very strong choices and should all be tested for the part.
You may be right about Fiennes, he has been sort of hit and miss lately. But I do agree that his lackluster performance in "Red Dragon" was due to a dissapointing script and especially boring, uninspired direction by Brett "X3" Ratner.

It's just that the guy has overwhelmed me in parts like Amon Goeth in "Schindler's List", his role in "The End of the Affair" and his veritable tour-de-force (also as a psychotic) in "Spider". Also his role as a cop going mental in the otherwise weak "Strange Days" was impressive.

[Timstuff]

Can someone manip this?

http://www.gossipnews.it/cinema/sundance2005/images/Adrian_Brody_in__The_Jacket__18.jpg

I almost forgot that Brody could be a very good Joker as well. :)

[Quietstorm]

Has anyone seen that infamous David Letterman interview Crispin Glover did years ago? :D I thought it was a great "performance".

Here it is (http://www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes.php?box_id=51208&f_id=1283)

[Alonsovich]

A little manip with Vincent Cassel...

http://img271.echo.cx/img271/9053/casseljokercopy4rf.jpg

[Spidey-Bat]

I searched through this thread, and couldn't find it (might of missed it), but does anyone have the manips of Jude Law as The Joker?

This?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/Spidey-Boy523/joker.jpg

[Joker!]

Vincent Cassel looks like a great choice :up:

[Kirk Langstrom]

Has anyone seen that infamous David Letterman interview Crispin Glover did years ago? :D I thought it was a great "performance".

Here it is (http://www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes.php?box_id=51208&f_id=1283)

Yeah, I saw it that night.....I thought he was on crack, lol...

[American_Idiot]

Has anyone seen that infamous David Letterman interview Crispin Glover did years ago? :D I thought it was a great "performance".

Here it is (http://www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes.php?box_id=51208&f_id=1283)

No. What happened?

I can't view the link...

[lafballa89]

Source from IGN is now "98% sure" that Lachy is going to play the Joker. It is said that he was invited to the Begins premier but couldn't show because of scheduling issues.
http://filmforce.ign.com/batman/articles/622/622477p1.html:batman:

[Quietstorm]

No. What happened?

I can't view the link...

Before Crispin came out, it looked like he was fussing at someone backstage.

He showed up in what looked like platform shoes and he was completely out of it, and the audience was heckling him. Glover challenege Letterman to a fight but he walked off to do the top ten, it was hilarious! I think he may have been acting though.

[Quietstorm]

Double post :o

[Agentdemon]

Before Crispin came out, it looked like he was fussing at someone backstage.

He showed up in what looked like platform shoes and he was completely out of it, and the audience was heckling him. Glover challenege Letterman to a fight but he walked off to do the top ten, it was hilarious! I think he may have been acting though.
He was obviously messing around, it was hilarious!

[JMadisonIV]

my two cents on Joker actors..

I can't commit to supporting one.

I have to hear the laugh first.

I don't wanna put my vote on someone to be the Joker, only to find out that his Joker Laugh sounds like crap.

maybe I'm just too picky.

[GoldGoblin]

Crispin Glover would be quite an interesting Joker.I think he could be the only one to do a better job than Jack Nicholson as the character.And that's what they need.

[heathm]

joker in the batman sequels should just be downright sinister, i am talking like build him around the joker that ruthlessly (sp?) gunned down barbara gordon and thought it was funny, just evil, but you can't loose the purple suit.

[Red_Zinfindel]

I know most of you probably don't know this guy...unless your a hockey fan and I know he isn't and actor... but none the less if you throw makeup on this guy it's almost ridiculously uncanny. His name is Ville Nieminen and he plays for the Calgary Flames.

[afmvdp]

As I said in another post already, I think Nick Stahl would be the perfect Joker for this series.

[Riven]

I know most of you probably don't know this guy...unless your a hockey fan and I know he isn't and actor... but none the less if you throw makeup on this guy it's almost ridiculously uncanny. His name is Ville Nieminen and he plays for the Calgary Flames.And this didn't tip you off that he might be a bad choice? :p

I looked him up and honestly, he doesn't look anything like the Joker, man...

I think Nick Stahl would be the perfect Joker for this series. Interesting choice to say the least. The kid is talented, that's for sure. But isn't he a little young to be standing beside Bale? And looks-wise, he's not that much of a ringer for the Joker either, you know... I mean, I don't wanna see him in alltogether too much makeup. :yellow: =/= :joker:

[jamie_mcgonigle]

Nick Stahl is a great young actor, one of my favorites, but I don't know if he would be right for the role. I think his take would be interesting, but looks-wise I don't know if he'd be right.

[TheBatSignal]

http://www.satanjewels.com/ctm26.png

Crispin Glover is perfect.:joker:

[afmvdp]

Lookswise actually I think he could pull it off actually

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/afmvdp/joker.jpg

Here's a 2 second manip as an example. Only issue I think is that he's about 5 years younger than bale.

Also depends on if they want to push him more as being completely wild child, psycho type or an intentionally deviant yet mad killer, almost serial killer-esque.

If they're going for the wilder, untamed psycho look then Lachy Hulme or Vincent Gallo is the type they should go for.

[DDRSkata]

One idea that hasn't been brought up in quite some time is Matthew Lillard. He was excellent in SLC Punk and looks a lot like the Vincent Cassel manip I've seen going around.

[Riven]

One idea that hasn't been brought up in quite some time is Matthew Lillard. He was excellent in SLC Punk and looks a lot like the Vincent Cassel manip I've seen going around.You can NOT be serious... :eek: Lillard is one of the WORST actors around. He irritates the hell out of me!

[DDRSkata]

You can NOT be serious... :eek: Lillard is one of the WORST actors around. He irritates the hell out of me!

He does tend to take poor roles, but have you seen SLC Punk? He did an excellent performance in that movie.

[DrewBanger]

When I first saw Scream, I thought Lillard would make the perfect Joker, myself. He really is a phenomenal actor. He's just not intimidating anymore, though. He's now associated only as Shaggy, and I don't think it would work from a marketing standpoint . . . unless he does some dark roles in some films before the Batman sequel. I do think he has the chops, though.

[DDRSkata]

When I first saw Scream, I thought Lillard would make the perfect Joker, myself. He really is a phenomenal actor. He's just not intimidating anymore, though. He's now associated only as Shaggy, and I don't think it would work from a marketing standpoint . . . unless he does some dark roles in some films before the Batman sequel. I do think he has the chops, though.

He could surprise everyone like Ashton Kutcher did with The Butterfly Effect, although that was largely ignored.

[paranoidboy]

Stax at IGN favours Paul Bettany, I'm unsure but heres a VERY quick manip.

http://images.faceparty.com/public/1204/images/dondaboss2001_13576465.jpg

[batdude]

No to Lillard as Joker. Just don't see it at all.

[Red_Zinfindel]

I looked him up and honestly, he doesn't look anything like the Joker, man...

You obviously haven't seen him grinning in a picture then... everyone on the flames website refers to him as the joker cause when he flashes that grin he looks just like the joker

[BatDemon]

I'd suggest Michael Massee. He played Isaac Hassen in the recen "Revelations" mini-series. Had this maniacal grin and stare in some shots and came across as pure evil.

[DrewBanger]

He could surprise everyone like Ashton Kutcher did with The Butterfly Effect, although that was largely ignored.

I don't think many people were surprised by Ashton Kutcher in "Butterfly Effect" . . . I know I wasn't. I didn't really buy him as a supergenius . . . I agree that movie was interesting and underrated, but there was nothing phenomenal about the acting at all.

Someone needs to bring Christohper Eccleston's attention to this project! He was initially being considered for the role of Crane when Cillian Murphy was being considered as Batman. He's got the Joker's build, he's not typecast, and he's a very strong performer. He also has Joker-esque features.

[Keyser Soze]

Some very interesting choices here. I've been trying to think of some names that haven't been mentioned yet. Here's two:

Kevin Bacon
John Turturro

[The Techno Bat]

http://www.satanjewels.com/ctm26.png

Crispin Glover is perfect.:joker:

He will play The Joker in the second Batman movie!

[BmAaTn3625]

As far as the purple suite goes I agree it needs to be there but with blood splatered on it as well as his shoes