Joker Casting Threads [merged-30]

[E.C.]

I think, hell, I KNOW Hamill's too old-looking for the part. I'd still like to see him play, simply from acting and personality alone, but as much as I clamor, the higher-ups undoubtedly would write him off as "too old." :(

Glover's face with Hamill's voice would be perfect, but seriously, that's far more of a longshot than Hamill by himself (and just seems silly in general).

I don't know about Glover myself, but every movie that I've seen him in (he's had a few supporting roles as well), he's just got a whiny (not high pitched; whiny), unassuming voice and persona. Maybe he's got more range, but even in Willard, he was whiny.


I don't really know about Penn. He's an awesome actor, but he really does seem like a wrong fit for the Joker. His take on the Joker would be interesting and darker, but would it really be Joker? The character who even casual Batman fans have expectations for? Penn's a good actor, so if he somehow does happen to land the role, I wouldn't be too upset just as long as Penn delivers.

Realistically though, (that is, putting aside my obvious bias for Hamill), my favorites are Alan Cumming and Jude Law. They can look the part, they're good actors, they've shown dark and clownish (sometimes both) in previous roles, and they're big enough names to star opposite Bale.

[DDRSkata]

1. Tim Roth
2. Matthew Lillard or Jason Lee
3. Crispin Glover
4. Alan Cumming or Jude Law (although Law is a better choice for Riddler)
5. Devon Sawa or one of the choices I've never seen act but people seem to like.

[Weezer]

1. Crispin Glover
2. Jude Law
3. Tim Roth
4. Lachy Hulme
5. Sean Penn

[Binker]

Sean Penn seems ok. Doing crazy stuff as well that'll work with the role. He's the type of actor who can do anything.

[VenomFang]

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

=) =) =)

[Boom]

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg
I'm really not a big fan of Crispin Glover, but even I have to say, that's one of the best manips I've ever seen.

[MJUpton]

Here's the BEST choice for Joker:

http://home.comcast.net/%7Emjupton/Jokerface.jpg

That's right-- Vince McMahon, DAMNIT!

[Nivek]

Okay, let me just say who should NOT even be mentioned for playing the Joker. Guys like Dafoe, Jim Carrey, and Hugo Weaving. seriously, c'mon here...

It always comes back to Crispin Glover. despite what some of you say, he does have the chops, and he has the best look for the Joker than any of these other hopefuls. If its not Glover, I hope its a semi-unknown of a thin body type. No Buff Jokers, please.

Thats my 2 cents...


Glover Dammit!

[Sentinel X]

Caspin Glover MUST be Joker or its the end of the world!!!!

[Sentinel X]

I think Joker should be really really dark because this is what Nolan's films are.Whenever he makes a sadistic joke the crowd should shiver. I want the dirty, homeless look like the one from the tv show Batman, I know people dont like it but Joker looks pretty darn cool.

[super-t]

man i cant sit back and let yall do my dog Carrey like that, come on every one of yall knows that if Jim really wanted to do it, i mean really want then he could do it.

[Nivek]

Sean Penn as the Joker is like the talk of Ashton Kutcher playing Batman. Aint It Cool News...Aint Gonna Happen. Sean Penn is horrible choice for a bad joke, whoever came up with that one will come back in a couple months and say he was edged out by whoever, just like the Jesus-Superman and Smallville Superboy casting rumers for Superman.

[Nivek]

Carrey played the Riddler. Overacted like a motherf'r too. Keep him away from the Bat Franchise, along with William Defoe. He's the Green Goblin, and too old to play the Joker against Bale.

Hell, anyone over 50 should be eliminated.

[goatenfugly]

I think we can all agree that Crispin Glover really is insane. However, he is just not the same type of insane that the Joker should be. Glover just seems to be too quiet and timid for the role. If you can point me in the direction of a movie where he truly lets loose, I'll back him all the way. For now, though, I think the best choice is Bettany.

[Muze]

I think we can all agree that Crispin Glover really is insane. However, he is just not the same type of insane that the Joker should be. Glover just seems to be too quiet and timid for the role. If you can point me in the direction of a movie where he truly lets loose, I'll back him all the way. For now, though, I think the best choice is Bettany.

don't you remember when he told Biff to get away from his girl? guy's a psycho!! j/k

[VenomFang]

I'm really not a big fan of Crispin Glover, but even I have to say, that's one of the best manips I've ever seen.

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

Well I am a fan of Glover, and I'll cry for the rest of my life if he doesn't get the part. The great thing is, that isn't even heavily modified. Crispin truly is the Joker.

[Wise]

http://www.vangor.de/hogwarts/cummingslockheart.jpgI say ALan Cummings would make an awesome Joker.

[Digital_Ashes]

To those of you questioning Crispin Glover's insanity here is a short list:

He's literally insane.

The Movie WILLARD, watch it and you'll understand he far his acting really is, when you see a man SCREAM at a freakin' rat about something like, being mean to another rat, it really makes you question your sense of reality.

He almost behedded David Letterman with a scissor kick in '87, on Letterman, and was banned for almost 5 years.

Did I mention he's freakin' INSANE, also he has a cult following, and is considered one of the greatest "underground" actors out there.

[my0pic_spidey]

don't you remember when he told Biff to get away from his girl? guy's a psycho!! j/k


He knocked biff out of his senses! Now thats psycho.
Ladies and gentleman,we have a winner.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/britton_w00n/will10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/britton_w00n/fightangels.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/britton_w00n/CAFT2.gif

[Katsuro]

while i think Glover has the look, he just doens't plain have the voice. Even if we ignore TAS and any other Batman media and go only by the comics, he still doesn't have a voice you would expect from a character like the Joker. I cant imagine him making sick, twisted jokes, then laughing his ass off at them like a maniac.

Mark Hamill, on the other hand, has the voice. His voice fits the persona of the character perfectly. If he lost a little weight, since the makeup would hide his age, he would do perfect! I could do with him not looking 100% like the character, as long as we got a creepy, sadistic, dark portrayal of him i'm happy.

[Carmine Falcone]

Judging from the trailer for Willard, he could be pretty good.

http://videodetective.com/home.asp?PublishedID=560044

[Wise]

http://www.yale.edu/yfs/images/sidebar/AlanCummingSmall.jpg http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/images/image_index/5886.jpg http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/03/44/10/image_10443.jpg


Put Alan Cumming in the role. Not only does he look like the Man/Pre Joker from "The Killing Joke". But he can also do drama and comedy very well.
You guys are all suggesting these dark actors for the role forgetting that the Joker is a double sided character. He has the light hearted mischievous side and he has the homicidal psychopath side. The actor who plays him has to be able to do both comedy and drama.

[S_H_F_4839]

here are my picks

1.) Crispin Glover, I picked him because of the look, and I think he could pull it off and then some, I mean the joker could be his vehicle to really show his talent, I have heard people talk about typecasting, and well I think thats what has happened to him, he always gets stuck in these whiny characters, but I think the joker could be his vehicle to really show what he can do, and hope he gets the role.

2.) Ben Foster, I know this is a little out there, but watched him in Hostage, He plays psycho well, and yes I know he played spacker dave in the punisher, but in hostage he killed people just to watch them die, and I think he would own as the joker, and hey he has done a comic book movie before so they might talk him into playing the joker, by far in my opinon one of the best comic book villains of all time.

3.) Sean Penn, he is a little old I admit, but as far as characters go, I think he has the personality for the joker if one of the other two do not get it.

ok, I dont see the draw for jude law, I have never been overly impressed by his acting, I mean he has been suggested for every comic book character out there, and I just dont really see him as any of them, I could see him possibly as riddler but thats a stretch.

Tim Roth is a good actor, but I think he should be the riddler.

[dogsgotlipstick]

sorry guys, i can't see nolan going with an american actor for the joker. the only americans in major(!?!) supporting roles are holmes and freeman. i can't see him picking an 'A' list star for the role. Nolan wants these film's to be about Batman/bruce wayne; any scenery chewing by a star such as depp, would take the focus away from the subject, just as nicholson did in 89. Again, i think he'll go for a quality actor and avoid the hyperactivity of a carrey or tommy lee jones. This joker will be far from funny in anybodies eyes bar his own; he'll be a psychopath. I think he'll go for another brit to bring this character to life; my favourite would be christopher ecclestone. I've never been a dr who fan, but i've watched this series fascinated to see what the lead could bring to the role. his facial mannerisms are ideal for the joker role, and this guy can act! i'm not talking about his role as dr who, but his earlier stuff in cracker and the second coming will show you what this guy is capable of.

[Joker831]

Here are the people i only want to see as Joker.

1.Mark Hamill
http://www.justinsecor.com/images/random/joker4.jpg
Now come on, tell me that he dont look so kick ass in that manip. That suit looks so cool, just as cool as the purple suit. Does anyone else think that should be a Joker suit in the movies? Anyways....Hamill i think if done like that would make such a great Joker period. I have seen him act like a psycho in Midnight Ride when he was killer hitchiker...it was great. He can do it.

2. Tim Roth
Creepy as ****, period lol

Any others like Glover, Eckleston, etc....i would be a lil dissapointed with but would still give them a chance. I just dont want Hulme on the fact so many other actors should get it before him...thats all.

But doesnt Mark Hammill look kick-ass in that manip as the Joker. I think thats one of the best i've seen.

[my0pic_spidey]

while i think Glover has the look, he just doens't plain have the voice. Even if we ignore TAS and any other Batman media and go only by the comics, he still doesn't have a voice you would expect from a character like the Joker. I cant imagine him making sick, twisted jokes, then laughing his ass off at them like a maniac.

Mark Hamill, on the other hand, has the voice. His voice fits the persona of the character perfectly. If he lost a little weight, since the makeup would hide his age, he would do perfect! I could do with him not looking 100% like the character, as long as we got a creepy, sadistic, dark portrayal of him i'm happy.

dear friend you have no idea who is crispin glover,do you? not only is he truly insane thAT does it for the joker he has the creepy sadistic looks,the height,and the voice for the prince of clowns.Plus he is never too old.in Willard he was controlling the mice to do his dirty bid,and you should have seen the maniacal look on his face when he's enjoying it.He'll pull off as this serious maniac who does sadistic things that just ain't funny but will give u the chills.

[dogsgotlipstick]

mark hamill has two hopes of getting the gig... bob and no...

[Joker831]

But come on lol, look at that manip and tell me it dont look great?

I think if that's how he'd look on screen, screw everyone else and get Hammill.

[Muze]

sorry guys, i can't see nolan going with an american actor for the joker. the only americans in major(!?!) supporting roles are holmes and freeman. i can't see him picking an 'A' list star for the role. Nolan wants these film's to be about Batman/bruce wayne; any scenery chewing by a star such as depp, would take the focus away from the subject, just as nicholson did in 89. Again, i think he'll go for a quality actor and avoid the hyperactivity of a carrey or tommy lee jones. This joker will be far from funny in anybodies eyes bar his own; he'll be a psychopath. I think he'll go for another brit to bring this character to life; my favourite would be christopher ecclestone. I've never been a dr who fan, but i've watched this series fascinated to see what the lead could bring to the role. his facial mannerisms are ideal for the joker role, and this guy can act! i'm not talking about his role as dr who, but his earlier stuff in cracker and the second coming will show you what this guy is capable of.

i agree. and i'm tired of seeing Mark Hamill's name. that photomanip makes him look like crap. as for how misunderstood Crispin Glover is...if he's so much like the Joker in Willard, what's the draw to see him play the same role in Batman Continues?

[Boom]

sorry guys, i can't see nolan going with an american actor for the joker. the only americans in major(!?!) supporting roles are holmes and freeman. i can't see him picking an 'A' list star for the role. Nolan wants these film's to be about Batman/bruce wayne; any scenery chewing by a star such as depp, would take the focus away from the subject, just as nicholson did in 89. Again, i think he'll go for a quality actor and avoid the hyperactivity of a carrey or tommy lee jones. This joker will be far from funny in anybodies eyes bar his own; he'll be a psychopath. I think he'll go for another brit to bring this character to life; my favourite would be christopher ecclestone. I've never been a dr who fan, but i've watched this series fascinated to see what the lead could bring to the role. his facial mannerisms are ideal for the joker role, and this guy can act! i'm not talking about his role as dr who, but his earlier stuff in cracker and the second coming will show you what this guy is capable of.
Alrighty.

Paul Bettany (Harlesden, London, England, UK)
Jude Law (Lewisham, London, England, UK)

[Joker831]

How does that make Mark Hamill look like crap?

I think he looks awesome in that. That is one of the best Joker manip's around. That suit, and i dunno i guess Hamill just looks great in that one.

But everyone has their own opinion, i just happen to think that one is so great.

[dogsgotlipstick]

here's a name for ya...Andy serkis

[Muze]

How does that make Mark Hamill look like crap?

I think he looks awesome in that. That is one of the best Joker manip's around. That suit, and i dunno i guess Hamill just looks great in that one.

But everyone has their own opinion, i just happen to think that one is so great.

he looks like he's going to a halloween party and applied his own makeup. that and his face is just all wrong for the joker, imo. he has very...round features. more impish than clownish. he needs a longer face, longer chin, longer nose, crazier eyes, etc. not my fault that he has joker's voice and none of his features. and i seriously don't think he's on Bale's level as an actor. i've actually seen Hamil in a few movies. he was a ham in all of them. anyone remember Body Bags?

Alrighty.

Paul Bettany (Harlesden, London, England, UK)
Jude Law (Lewisham, London, England, UK)

i'll take either although i still prefer Vince Cassell and Chris Eccleston.

[Detective Flass]

Alrighty.

Paul Bettany (London, England, UK)
Jude Law (London, England, UK)

Tim Roth (London, England, UK)


:D

[Detective Flass]

Tim Roth:

http://www.scifi-universe.com/upload/personnalites/grand/tim_roth.jpg

http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/personalidades/atores/tim-roth/tim-roth01.jpg

http://www.all-pictures-photos.com/images/tim-roth/tim-roth-011-img.jpg

http://www.double-whammy.com/photos/tim_roth.jpg

http://www.annaandsusie.co.uk/mediac/400_0/media/tim~roth~2.jpg

[E.C.]

dear friend you have no idea who is crispin glover,do you? not only is he truly insane thAT does it for the joker he has the creepy sadistic looks,the height,and the voice for the prince of clowns.

Looking at Willard again, I have to agree with Keyser Soze in that Glover is not Joker. If Hamill's on one end of the spectrum (perfect voice, horrible look), Glover is on the other end (perfect look, horrible voice).

The guy is whiny. Willard had plenty of scenes with him smiling insidiously and speaking insidiously (perhaps like the Joker would), but in every one of them, he came across as petulant and pathetic, almost effeminate with the way he speaks. When he talks, he never commanded respect, and he certainly didn't have personality the way you'd expect Joker to have. Much of the time, he was quiet and let his looks do the talking, which is cool, but that's not Joker.

And, if the other minor roles he's had (where he was more of a normal guy) are any indication, that whinyness is how he talks. Which is probably why he gets typecast to such pathetic characters and likely why, in Charlie's Angels, he never said anything. When he looks cool, he looks really cool. But when he speaks...

As was mentioned many dozens of pages ago, if Nolan's Joker doesn't wind up being somewhat funny (even in a sick way), then he's not the Joker. But regardless, whether its overly funny Joker or sadistic madman Joker, Glover's subdued whinyness doesn't seem like it would fit.


i've actually seen Hamil in a few movies. he was a ham in all of them. anyone remember Body Bags?

And? Hamill's notoriety in this particular topic is solely because he's played (and continues to play) the best version of Joker that's ever been. Frankly, any other role he's had is completely irrelevant.

Why not pick on Mickey Rourke for being in tons of crap movies (and a handful of good ones showing his edge) before being in Sin City?

[Detective Flass]

More Tim Roth:

http://ru.laser.ru/gallery/menfo/tim_roth.jpg

http://www.cinemamontreal.com/images/people-389-timroth.jpg

http://tv.zap2it.com/images/shows/p/planetoftheapes/planetoftheapes_timroth_001.jpg

http://www.rtsi.ch/prog/images/Trasm/tim_roth-b.jpg

http://images.absolutenow.com/rp/6113_roth_tim_06.jpg

http://www.h7.dion.ne.jp/~sarah2/sub9_SUB_IMAGE.JPG

[Keyser Soze]

Tim Roth isn't my top choice, though he's in my top five. Having said htat, if he's cast, I certinaly won't be complaining. He has played some amazing villains in the past, and could portray a Joker that's both darkly funny AND scary.

[Muze]

Tim Roth isn't my top choice, though he's in my top five. Having said htat, if he's cast, I certinaly won't be complaining. He has played some amazing villains in the past, and could portray a Joker that's both darkly funny AND scary.

and short. don't forget short. maybe he could play the Ventriloquist's dummy.

[Detective Flass]

and short. don't forget short. maybe he could play the Ventriloquist's dummy.

You are an ignorant idiot for saying that. A person shouldn't be cast because of how tall they are, stupid. But by how well they act.

Nicholson was what? 5'6 when he played Joker and played it to perfection.

I would rather have a short Joker who can act then a tall actor who doesn't look the part and can't act for jack ****.

[Muze]

Looking at Willard again, I have to agree with Keyser Soze in that Glover is not Joker. If Hamill's on one end of the spectrum (perfect voice, horrible look), Glover is on the other end (perfect look, horrible voice).

you just made my case for me. common sense tells me that if i have two extremes, that the best pick is somewhere in the middle; a happy union of the two. Hamill looks horrible but has the voice. Glover looks like a joker but has a horrible voice. so they are both out of the running. next.



And? Hamill's notoriety in this particular topic is solely because he's played (and continues to play) the best version of Joker that's ever been. Frankly, any other role he's had is completely irrelevant.

luke skywalker was irrelevant? anyways, Hamill did the best cartoon voice for the joker. that's it. that's his last claim to fame. he voiced something. seriously, have you seen the guy who voiced Sebastion the Crab from the Little Mermaid? he, get this, doesn't look anything like a crab; not even in red paint.


Why not pick on Mickey Rourke for being in tons of crap movies (and a handful of good ones showing his edge) before being in Sin City?

i will pick on Mickey Rourke for being a crappy actor. i will applaud him for being a real life over-the-top thug though. now if Batman Begins were as surreal and self-mocking as Sin City, you might actually have a point.

[Muze]

You are an ignorant idiot for saying that.

yeah, and you're named after the scummiest character to come tumbling out of the sewer pipe to date. guess that makes us even.

A person shouldn't be cast because of how tall they are, stupid. But by how well they act.

yep. Dustin Hoffman will be great in the Shaquille O'Neil biopic.

Nicholson was what? 5'6 when he played Joker and played it to perfection.

that sounds an awful lot like an opinion. i think he played a good Jack Nicholson. i don't know about his joker.

I would rather have a short Joker who can act then a tall actor who doesn't look the part and can't act for jack ****.

well how about the 3rd option; a good actor who is proper size and can pull the character off convincingly?

[Detective Flass]

1. Mark Hamill
http://www.justinsecor.com/images/random/joker4.jpg


I've read many Batman comics....


And The Joker never has Green around his eyes. :o

[Detective Flass]

well how about the 3rd option; a good actor who is proper size and can pull the character off convincingly?

There isn't one. :o

[DorkyFresh]

You are an ignorant idiot for saying that. A person shouldn't be cast because of how tall they are, stupid. But by how well they act.

Nicholson was what? 5'6 when he played Joker and played it to perfection.
I like Tim Roth and I'll be filled with joy if he ends up playing Joker.....but you need to stop with your extremely fanboyish ways. Nicholson is 5'9 and a half. Michael Keaton is only 5'10.

[Muze]

There isn't one. :o

look harder "detective." maybe try the other 4 or 5 joker casting threads. Tim Roth's about the worst that i've seen so far. seriously, why don't you suggest Martin Short next?

[DorkyFresh]

look harder "detective." maybe try the other 4 or 5 joker casting threads. Tim Roth's about the worst that i've seen so far.
Why? Just because he's short? Other than his height (which CAN be fixed by using boxes for him to stand on and camera trickery)...he'd be perfect...

[Detective Flass]

look harder "detective." maybe try the other 4 or 5 joker casting threads. Tim Roth's about the worst that i've seen so far. seriously, why don't you suggest Martin Short next?

Name them.

And DorkyFresh, I really didn't know how tall Nicholson was. :p

[Detective Flass]

Why? Just because he's short? Other than his height (which CAN be fixed by using boxes for him to stand on and camera trickery)...he'd be perfect...

Add the fadora which adds 2 inches.

On screen he could be 6'3. ;)

[Keyser Soze]

I think height is irrelevant. Unless there's casting Danny DeVito in the role, I don't mind if the guy is a bit too short. Sean Penn is my top choice, and he's shorter than the comic book Joker. But you know what? Comic book Joker is 6 foot 4. not many actors are that tall.

And I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I'd much rather have someone who doesn't look exactly the part (though Penn and Roth actually do look like The Joker in terms of facial structure, it's just height working against them) and can give a great performance, than some mediocre actor who's only advantage is being tall enough to look like comic book Joker more.

[Muze]

I think height is irrelevant. Unless there's casting Danny DeVito in the role, I don't mind if the guy is a bit too short. Sean Penn is my top choice, and he's shorter than the comic book Joker. But you know what? Comic book Joker is 6 foot 4. not many actors are that tall.

And I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I'd much rather have someone who doesn't look exactly the part (though Penn and Roth actually do look like The Joker in terms of facial structure, it's just height working against them) and can give a great performance, than some mediocre actor who's only advantage is being tall enough to look like comic book Joker more.

chris ecclesston 6'1 1/2"
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0289043/Ss/0289043/2917.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Eccleston,%20Christopher
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0116722/Ss/0116722/1-4.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Eccleston,%20Christopher

vince cassell 6'2"
http://www.shakefire.com/vincent_cassel_002.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0349903/Ss/0349903/O12D-7136r.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Cassel,%20Vincent
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0349903/Ss/0349903/O12D-8220.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Cassel,%20Vincent

[Keyser Soze]

look harder "detective." maybe try the other 4 or 5 joker casting threads. Tim Roth's about the worst that i've seen so far. seriously, why don't you suggest Martin Short next?

This is a fairly ignorant remark, and I say you're just trying to be infmmatory. With all the ridiculous choices like Will Ferrell and Adam Sandler floating around, you think Tim Roth is the worst ever choice? Surely not.

Who's he a better choice than? Crispin Glover for a start. And he's better htan many of the other "favourites" too. So far, the only think you've said against him is that's he's too short. Surely not enough to make him worst choice ever?

[Detective Flass]

some mediocre actor who's only advantage is being tall enough to look like comic book Joker more.

coughLachy Hulmecough

[Detective Flass]

chris ecclesston 6'1 1/2"
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0289043/Ss/0289043/2917.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Eccleston,%20Christopher
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0116722/Ss/0116722/1-4.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Eccleston,%20Christopher

vince cassell 6'2"
http://www.shakefire.com/vincent_cassel_002.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0349903/Ss/0349903/O12D-7136r.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Cassel,%20Vincent
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0349903/Ss/0349903/O12D-8220.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Cassel,%20Vincent


Save your breath n00b, no one cares about their height. You're outnumbered. Give it up.

[Muze]

This is a fairly ignorant remark, and I say you're just trying to be infmmatory.

grow up. i'm here because i care who plays the joker in the next film. i loved Batman Begins and i don't want to see you two destroy the series like a couple of schumacher-wannabes. as for inflammatory, the other poster called me an idiot twice in his post.

With all the ridiculous choices like Will Ferrell and Adam Sandler floating around, you think Tim Roth is the worst ever choice? Surely not.

yeah, those choices are just as moronic.

Who's he a better choice than? Crispin Glover for a start. And he's better htan many of the other "favourites" too. So far, the only think you've said against him is that's he's too short. Surely not enough to make him worst choice ever?

i don't like his smile. i don't like his eyes. i don't like his voice. there's literally nothing about him that makes me think of the joker. and Crispin's a b-movie star at best.

[Muze]

Save your breath n00b, no one cares about their height. You're outnumbered. Give it up.

Batman was outnumbered to.

"My name is Jayme Karales, I was born in Boston and raised in Quincy. I grew a middle class child. I know what America is going through. Who better to run the country then the every man? I would work for the people by the people."

nuff said.

[Detective Flass]

So my buddy is running for President. What does that have to do with this might I ask?

[Spidey-Bat]

coughLachy Hulmecough
Flass, I'm really sick and tired of you. Each and everyone one of your posts is either "TIM ROTH FOR JOKER" or something incredibly stupid (much like you). Examples are when you belived Will Ferrel was the Joker (and you were willing to bet it), Red Hood would be in BB, and Selina Kyle and Pamela Isley were the 2 women with Judge Faden. You have no basis for any of those cliams or that Hulme is a mediocre actor. Have you seen any movies he plays a large role in? Hulme is one of my choices, but I've never said Roth is a bad actor. I agree with you that Roth would make a decent Joker, but please shut up about it. Also, stop the negativity about other people's choices. You're taking it far too seriously and need to chill. What we all think has little to no effect on who will be chosen. So you can stop the 100's of Roth for Joker posts. We get it.

[Muze]

So my buddy is running for President. What does that have to do with this might I ask?

idiots run in packs. proofreading's your mother.

[Spidey-Bat]

"My name is Jayme Karales, I was born in Boston and raised in Quincy. I grew a middle class child. I know what America is going through. Who better to run the country then the every man? I would work for the people by the people."

Than, Flass. Not then.

[Detective Flass]

idiots run in packs. proofreading's your mother.

It's funny you talk about mothers.

She was calling me a genius last night in bed. ;)

[Detective Flass]

Than, Flass. Not then.

I didn't write it, all I did was make him put me down as Vice President. :p

[Spidey-Bat]

It's funny you talk about mothers.

She was calling me a genius last night in bed. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/Spidey-Boy523/ayi.gif

[Spidey-Bat]

I didn't write it, all I did was make him put me down as Vice President. :p

Even better. Your running mate has terrible grammar.

[Detective Flass]

Alright, now that we're done insulting each other can we get back on topic. ;)

[Muze]

It's funny you talk about mothers.

She was calling me a genius last night in bed. ;)

you admitted to being a necrophiliac? that's good. first step is admitting that you have a problem.

[Detective Flass]

As long as dead people talk to me, I'm gonna have sex with them. ;)

[Keyser Soze]

Hey, why the goddamn flame war! Enough with the insults, on both sides! Can we please stop talking about mother sex and start talking about The Joker again?

Anyway, Muze, before you completely write off Tim Roth, watch "Rob Roy". He plays quite possibly one of the best villains ever in it. I think he actually won a Best Supporting Actor Oscar for the role. Go and watch that, and I think you could really get a better idea of Roth as Joker.

Although, as I've said, he's not my top choice.

[DDRSkata]

Quit flaming. What's wrong with you guys? Some like Roth, some don't. Don't get so worked up over words on the internet.

Anyway, here are some Jason Lee manips:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/DDRSkata/leejoker.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/DDRSkata/leejoker2.jpg

And one of Gyllenhaal that I can't remember if I posted in this thread or not.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/DDRSkata/gyllenjoker3.jpg

[Muze]

Hey, why the goddamn flame war! Enough with the insults, on both sides! Can we please stop talking about mother sex and start talking about The Joker again?

Anyway, Muze, before you completely write off Tim Roth, watch "Rob Roy". He plays quite possibly one of the best villains ever in it. I think he actually won a Best Supporting Actor Oscar for the role. Go and watch that, and I think you could really get a better idea of Roth as Joker.

Although, as I've said, he's not my top choice.

i've seen him in Hoodlum, Rob Roy, Resevoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, the Musketeer, Invincible, Four Rooms, Planet of the Apes, Lucky Numbers, Gridlock'd, Little Odessa, Vincent and Theo, and an episode of Tales from the Crypt where he played an artist who turns to murder for inspiration. seriously, i don't think Tim Roth is a bad actor. i just don't want him as my Joker. and if you don't think height matters, why was such a big deal made about it when James Marsden was cast as Cyclops across from Famke Jansen? :)

[Keyser Soze]

Because some fanboys wil whine about anything.

[Keyser Soze]

No, in all seriousness, I don't think height is too important. No, don't cast a midget, but average height is okay. Acting ability is far more important to me than lankiness. Sean Penn is my current top choice - even though he's more the short and stocky build than tall and lanky.

[Muze]

No, in all seriousness, I don't think height is too important. No, don't cast a midget, but average height is okay. Acting ability is far more important to me than lankiness. Sean Penn is my current top choice - even though he's more the short and stocky build than tall and lanky.

hey, if they can make Sean Penn into the Joker, more power to them. i think it's a risky move and i covet the right to skip out on the sequel if they screw up. i'm seriously worried that they're going to upstage Christian Bale. the Batman and Joker should be equally popular; ideally. but Sean Penn's a household name. he's infamous if you believe FOX news. that means that he's going to draw a lot of the press away from Bale. and, if he's not believable as the Joker then that's what most of the press is going to be about.

[Detective Flass]

Come on! Holmes and Neeson got way more press then Bale and they didn't outact him in the movie.

Penn is a talented actor and knows his place, trust me just because he's well known doesn't mean he'll upstage him. ;)

[Keyser Soze]

I disagree. EDIT: With muze, not you Flass - you made your post before I could get mine in. Sean Penn is a respected character actor, not a huge superstar. Yes, he's a big name, but no bigger than the likes of Michael Caine or Morgan Freeman. Certinaly no a superstar like Johnny Depp or Jim Carrey.

So I don't think he'd overshadow Bale. The most common complaint is that he's a serious actor. As I've said: good. The Joker is NOT a funny character. Ideally he should be outright terrifying. And Sean Penn is able to give intense, unnerving performances that can capture that element of The Joker. And that's what we have to focus on - his acting ability. Who wouldn't want the Robert DeNiro of our generation in their film?

My only doubt about Penn is his friendship with Jack Nicholson. It is no secret that the pair are close friends. In every movie Sean Penn has directed, he's made Nicholson the star. If Penn is cast as The Joker, he may end up taking a lot from the performance of his friend/mentor Jack Nicholson rather than going to the comics for inspiration. But that's not really a solid argument, so it's not really putting me off too much.

Overall, I say Sean Penn would have the potential to be a phenomenal Joker.

[Muze]

I disagree. Sean Penn is a respected character actor, not a huge superstar. Yes, he's a big name, but no bigger than the likes of Michael Caine or Morgan Freeman. Certinaly no a superstar like Johnny Depp or Jim Carrey.

So I don't think he'd overshadow Bale. The most common complaint is that he's a serious actor. As I've said: good. The Joker is NOT a funny character. Ideally he should be outright terrifying. And Sean Penn is able to give intense, unnerving performances that can capture that element of The Joker. And that's what we have to focus on - his acting ability. Who wouldn't want the Robert DeNiro of our generation in their film?

My only doubt about Penn is his friendship with Jack Nicholson. It is no secret that the pair are close friends. In every movie Sean Penn has directed, he's made Nicholson the star. If Penn is cast as The Joker, he may end up taking a lot from the performance of his friend/mentor Jack Nicholson rather than going to the comics for inspiration. But that's not really a solid argument, so it's not really putting me off too much.

Overall, I say Sean Penn would have the potential to be a phenomenal Joker.

i did a simple google on 'Sean Penn.' you might want to look at some of these headlines. Penn is respected by his fellow actors. the public and the media are a different animal.

http://www.google.com/search?biw=908&hl=en&q=Sean+Penn

[deDIKnight]

Carlitos Way

Al Pacino, Sean Penn and John Leguizamo

All terrific Actors, all terrific scenery chewers and what did you get - ensemble acting

No one upstaged the other

And I think John Leguizamo would make a Phenomenal Joker

He's already been The Clown in Spawn and no stranger to make up
The guy has got a really scary grin, very physical and been superb in some serious films as well as comedic and avantgarde

Dont think anyones mentioned him before

John Leguizamo could do the joker great

[Detective Flass]

Actually, I have been thinking about John Leguizamo.

Him being Clown in Spawn wouldn't affect his odds mainly because it wasn't a too popular movie and it's not a very popular characters as say Lex Luthor.

He would make a terrific Joker but there are better choices out there to support as well.

[deDIKnight]

Like Tim Roth

[captainllama]

SCREW YOU TYPECASTERS who you say Dafoe can't, already Green Goblin!!

Spiderman = colourful, comic movie
Batman = dark, gritty, crime movie

Willem's said that he doesn't care about typecasting, he's typecast as the villains when he's only been the "bad guy" like a few times during his whole career. He's the perfect joker. So screw you idiots who typecast him just because he was already in a movie.

SCREW YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Otherwis e, lookwise, I'd choose Crispin under Dafoe. I haven't seen Crispin's acting, but he looks the part.

Sean Penn? How about Orlando Bloom? The suggestions are getting sad.

[Two-Face]

SCREW YOU TYPECASTERS who you say Dafoe can't, already Green Goblin!!

Spiderman = colourful, comic movie
Batman = dark, gritty, crime movie

Willem's said that he doesn't care about typecasting, he's typecast as the villains when he's only been the "bad guy" like a few times during his whole career. He's the perfect joker. So screw you idiots who typecast him just because he was already in a movie.

SCREW YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Otherwis e, lookwise, I'd choose Crispin under Dafoe. I haven't seen Crispin's acting, but he looks the part.

Sean Penn? How about Orlando Bloom? The suggestions are getting sad.



you going bit far don't ya? as well WB are looking for younger Joker anyway.

[Detective Flass]

Like Tim Roth

You are Correct Sir!!! :joker:

[Jericholyte]

If Nolan is looking for a (much) younger version of the Joker then personally I would go for Nick Stahl. He was in Terminator 3 (but don't let that put you off!). He's a great actor and if anyone's seen Bully you will know he can do a creepy/menacing character.

Anyway here's a picture if one of you guys could manip it...


http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dimension_films/sin_city/nick_stahl/sincitypred.jpg

[FCEEVIPER]

SCREW YOU TYPECASTERS who you say Dafoe can't, already Green Goblin!!

Spiderman = colourful, comic movie
Batman = dark, gritty, crime movie

Willem's said that he doesn't care about typecasting, he's typecast as the villains when he's only been the "bad guy" like a few times during his whole career. He's the perfect joker. So screw you idiots who typecast him just because he was already in a movie.

SCREW YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Otherwis e, lookwise, I'd choose Crispin under Dafoe. I haven't seen Crispin's acting, but he looks the part.

Sean Penn? How about Orlando Bloom? The suggestions are getting sad.
Too old.

[DDRSkata]

If Nolan is looking for a (much) younger version of the Joker then personally I would go for Nick Stahl. He was in Terminator 3 (but don't let that put you off!). He's a great actor and if anyone's seen Bully you will know he can do a creepy/menacing character.

Anyway here's a picture if one of you guys could manip it...


http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dimension_films/sin_city/nick_stahl/sincitypred.jpg

I hate you for not mentioning Sin City. :mad:

Just kidding. Mostly. I'm on it. :D

[Detective Flass]

Stahl is wayyyyyyy tooooooooooo young. He's younger then Bale!

But not bad. ;)

[DDRSkata]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/DDRSkata/stahljoker.jpg

Whipped this up real quick. I know there are a few mistakes...I didn't bother to fix them. :)

[Detective Flass]

Too young IMO, I want someone who is in their early 40's to play The Joker.

[captainllama]

Dafoe is turning 50 next month but he doesn't look his age - he looks a lot younger. And the fact he'd in makeup and camera lighting techniques. Also, he has great chemistry with Bale, they worked together in American Psycho.

Also, I don't mean to put down ALL of the manips here, but I highly doubt with the sequel they will give the Joker GREEN GREEN GREEN hair and WHITE skin. They're going to go with a more natural look, brownish/green hair, pale, not white skin, smokey eyes/smokey rings around the eyes, heroin chic kind of. And the lips will be a natural red - some people have redder pigment than others.

The manips are kind of sad, they're not going to look like that. I want some decent ones.

[Detective Flass]

And Gary Oldman and Tim Roth are best friends might I add. They worked in many plays together and always want to work with each other. :D

[Keyser Soze]

Orlando Bloom doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same paragraph as Sean Penn. So trying to say that Sean Penn would be as bad a choice for The Joker as Orlando Bloom is utterly ridiculous!

The more I think about Tim Roth, the more I like him. He's gradually moving up my top five list:

1. Sean Penn
2. Benicio Del Toro
3. Tim Roth
4. Johnny Depp
5. Ralph Fiennes

[Detective Flass]

Didn't he start out as Number 5 on your list?

[Weadazoid]

Nick Stahl is awsome I dig his stuff, Man without a face when he was boy, then moveing onto Bully, he is alss top notch in Carnivale on HBO....

But as the Joker, em, not easy to see him there, just my opinion, nice job as Yellow Bastard in sin City though

[ApocolypseNow]

william dafoe. He can be scary at times. And without the campy lines they gave him in spiderman, im sure he could be good.

the actor who plays the joker should have a really long face, and really well defined, almost cartoony bone structure, but scary cartoony...i really hope there is no camp attached to this joker.

[goatenfugly]

http://tinypic.com/6ejgxe.jpg
http://tinypic.com/6ejh5i.jpg

could someone please be a dear and manip these

[captainllama]

Orlando Bloom doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same paragraph as Sean Penn. So trying to say that Sean Penn would be as bad a choice for The Joker as Orlando Bloom is utterly ridiculous!



When I said that I was making a joke. Sean Penn I find is ridiculous for teh Joker just as much as Orlando Bloom. The suggestions are getting weird.

[Keyser Soze]

Sean Penn would make an excellent Joker. He's been on my personal shortlist for a long time, meaning I was very happy when this rumour about him being a front-runner surfaced.

In all honesty, I think Sean Penn is a far more logical choice than names like Crispin Glover. I mean, who is Nolan more likely to go for in casting The Joker? A largely unknown actor who has a reputation for being difficult to work with, who has nothing to offer other than looking the part? Or a respected character actor - considered by many the best of his generation - who can add to the starry cast line-up alongside the likes of Michael Caine, Gary Oldman and Morgan Freeman?

[etrigan69]

'Course they could give it to Marilyn Manson

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/Mansonjoker1.jpg


I'd love to see Bales bat give him a good kicking


If Marilyn could act, that would actually be cool. He's almost as tall as Bale I think....

[william_blake05]

My Top 5.
No pretty faced stars. No youthful pretenders. Just top-calibre actors that could bring to life a sadistic, pyschopathic killer with an evil sense of humour.

1. John Malkovich
2. Steve Buscemi
3. Willem Dafoe
4. Tim Roth
5. Benicio del Toro

[Muze]

My Top 5.
No pretty faced stars. No youthful pretenders. Just top-calibre actors that could bring to life a sadistic, pyschopathic killer with an evil sense of humour.

1. John Malkovich
2. Steve Buscemi
3. Willem Dafoe
4. Tim Roth
5. Benicio del Toro

yep. they aren't pretty or youthful. but i wouldn't want to see any of them as the Joker. :)

[Ahole669]

Tim Roth rules...

http://img145.echo.cx/img145/7024/joker9eu.jpg
http://img145.echo.cx/img145/6446/joker22md.jpg

At first I actually thought Crispin Glover, but then someone suggested Roth, and I've been lobbying for him ever since.
I'd settle for Mark Hammil, but theres no way Sean Penn is better than the other guys suggested:joker:

[Triad]

Malkovich is a bit too old, but would be cool.
Marilyn Manson....What can I say? Inspired choice, but we haven't a clue of his acting ability.
I like Tim Roth but can't really see him as the Joker...he's a good enough actor to prove me wrong, though!
For me, the role should go to Crispin Glover. He's virtually ageless, an excellent actor and verrry creeeepy, if you ask me!

[william_blake05]

For the record, I just want to say that anybody (and it seems there are a hell of a lot of you) that thinks CRISPIN GLOVER would make a good Joker .... are severely misguided.
I dont mind so much seeing his name pop up so frequently, because i'm 100% sure he won't be cast.
All I can say is Im glad nobody here is making the sequel casting choices because we'd have one helluva terrible Joker in the sequel.
Surely Im not the only who thinks Glover is DAMN WRONG?!

[Tangled Web]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/Bruingold/benicio-bw.jpg

del toro

[Triad]

After seeing Benicio del Toro in Sin City, I was a believer that he could definetly pull off the Joker!

[william_blake05]

After seeing Benicio del Toro in Sin City, I was a believer that he could definetly pull off the Joker!

Hell yeah he was twisted in Sin City.

[Tangled Web]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/Bruingold/21grams_nyff10.jpg

another Del Toro for someone of Talent to turn into the Clown Prince!

[VenomFang]

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

Crispin Glover is the only person for the role. Anyone who thinks differently has no interest in the Joker, or simply doesn't know Crispin Glover's work. If you honestly believe old, ugly men could ever be the elegant, beautiful jester than Joker is meant to be, you truly have no clue what the hell you are talking about. True, both Cesar Romero and Jack Nicholson began the trend for old, ugly Jokers, but all Batman fans know the animated Batman series with Hamill's voice absolutely redefined the Joker. The lanky, elusive Joker is both youthful, energetic, skinny, and has a nose like Crispin Glover. To cast anyone else, would be to mock the vision created by those who truly cared about this great iconic villian. Shame on all who believe Del Toro, Penn, Pitt, Roth or any of these losers could ever approach the magnificent portrayal Hamill created.

Crispin Glover for Joker.

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

Clown "prince" of Crime isn't just a catchy nickname, his elegance and beauty is what makes him so damn easy to watch, and so shocking when he turns from absolutely ammusing to brutally insane/homicidal. Jack Nicholson was just homocidal, rarely elegant or ammusing.

[goatenfugly]

Crispin Glover simply has the look, but to say he can capture the elegance and charisma of the character is, as you say, an insult to the joker.

[DDRSkata]

Crispin Glover simply has the look, but to say he can capture the elegance and charisma of the character is, as you say, an insult to the joker.

He just might be able to. After all, he is an actor, and that's what they do...act like things they might not be in real life.

[TimDrake64x]

i believe that for me the 2 canidates are crispin glover and alan cumming. crispin really looks like the tas joker, but ive heard that his laugh leaves something to be desired. on the other hand alan really really looks like the joker in tkj and his laugh is very good

[goatenfugly]

how about this guy
http://tinypic.com/6f76uu.jpg

Paddy Considine from In America and Cindarella Man.

him and Paul Bettany are my choices

[casketmouth]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/casketmouth/joker.jpg


I just slapped some colors and stuff together real quick cause as soon as i heard Roth could do itm i was obsessed. He is one of the greatest character actors out. He can do sinister real good and had played the character severally. Maybe not laugh too much but he can definetely pull it off. Look and all.

hamill is another candidate I hear, but I just prefer Roth as an actor.

[JTIZZLEVILLE]

hum...i see nothing.

[_achilles_]

hum...i see nothing.

well i see something....something terryfing....something that will not stup until the user who put the wrong link edit it :rolleyes: :)

i see only a red X

[American_Idiot]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/Linkincubus/leeforjoker.jpg

Jason Lee:

- Has the look (the nose, the smile, the chin, the build)
- Has the laugh
- Is youthful
- Can play charming (A Guy Thing, Heartbreakers)
- Plays a good maniacial villain (Dogma, the Incredibles)
- Has acting chops (Almost Famous, Vanilla Sky, Mumford, etc.)
- Reads comics; has even played a fanboy boy in a couple films
- Is good friends with Kevin Smith (who's opinion matters in comics, movies, and comic movies)

Jason Lee IS the Joker!

[casketmouth]

well i see something....something terryfing....something that will not stup until the user who put the wrong link edit it :rolleyes: :)

i see only a red X


who's?

[DDRSkata]

who's?

Your picture's not showing up. I tried to copy and paste the source link to see if it's from a site that doesn't allow hotlinking; turns out, it's hosted at a site that requires us to be logged in to your account to see it. Use PhotoBucket (http://photobucket.com) or an analogous service.

[casketmouth]

Your picture's not showing up. I tried to copy and paste the source link to see if it's from a site that doesn't allow hotlinking; turns out, it's hosted at a site that requires us to be logged in to your account to see it. Use PhotoBucket (http://photobucket.com) or an analogous service.

thank aight

[deDIKnight]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/jokerhamill2.jpg


When I read a comic, comicscript or novel featuring the joker, i hear mark hamill's voice
if he loses weight he's more dynamic than men half his age

And having met the guy personally at a san diego comic con - and see him do the joker voice and mannerisms - i'm a believer Luke

[casketmouth]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/casketmouth/joker2.jpg
vincent cassel

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/casketmouth/joker.jpg
The well renowned Tim Roth

I'll work on pictures if you post good smiles and renders of actors.

of course only if i like your choice.

[casketmouth]

Tim Roth rules...

http://img145.echo.cx/img145/7024/joker9eu.jpg
http://img145.echo.cx/img145/6446/joker22md.jpg

At first I actually thought Crispin Glover, but then someone suggested Roth, and I've been lobbying for him ever since.
I'd settle for Mark Hammil, but theres no way Sean Penn is better than the other guys suggested:joker:

Roth baby yeah!!!! look at my lil rendition of him

[deDIKnight]

Nice use of contacts casketmouth and the French guys name is Vincent cassel

[casketmouth]

Nice use of contacts casketmouth and the French guys name is Vincent cassel

thanks dude...and i fixed the naming

[Muze]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/Linkincubus/leeforjoker.jpg

Jason Lee:

- Has the look (the nose, the smile, the chin, the build)
- Has the laugh
- Is youthful
- Can play charming (A Guy Thing, Heartbreakers)
- Plays a good maniacial villain (Dogma, the Incredibles)
- Has acting chops (Almost Famous, Vanilla Sky, Mumford, etc.)
- Reads comics; has even played a fanboy boy in a couple films
- Is good friends with Kevin Smith (who's opinion matters in comics, movies, and comic movies)

Jason Lee IS the Joker!

and Cassel still looks better. :)

[etrigan69]

He's proven he can act...........
He can play dark and crazy............
He's physically right for the role........





I nominate.............





EDWARD NORTON
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/etrigan69/EdwardNorton034edit.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/etrigan69/jokernortoncopy.jpg

[casketmouth]

He's proven he can act...........
He can play dark and crazy............
He's physically right for the role........





I nominate.............





EDWARD NORTON




He's one of my pics but definately NOT better than roth in this type of role.

[etrigan69]

He's one of my pics but definately NOT better than roth in this type of role.
I completely disagree. He has shown he has what it takes to play any role. Hell, he could have played Batman IMO. We definately need an actor that can keep it dark and do what Jack Nicholson didn't pull off. He needs to be scary and creepy. Watch "Primal Fear".

[VenomFang]

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

Crispin Glover is the only person for the role. Anyone who thinks differently has no interest in the Joker, or simply doesn't know Crispin Glover's work. If you honestly believe old, ugly men could ever be the elegant, beautiful jester that Joker is meant to be, you truly have no clue what the hell you are talking about. True, both Cesar Romero and Jack Nicholson began the trend for old, ugly Jokers, but all Batman fans know the animated Batman series with Hamill's voice absolutely redefined the Joker. The lanky, elusive Joker is both youthful, energetic, skinny, and has a nose like Crispin Glover. To cast anyone else, would be to mock the vision created by those who truly cared about this great iconic villian. Shame on all who believe Del Toro, Penn, Pitt, Roth or any of these losers could ever approach the magnificent portrayal Hamill created.

Crispin Glover for Joker.

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

Clown "prince" of Crime isn't just a catchy nickname, his elegance and beauty is what makes him so damn easy to watch, and so shocking when he turns from absolutely ammusing to brutally insane/homicidal. Jack Nicholson was just homocidal, rarely elegant or ammusing.

[DDRSkata]

You know, VenomFang, repeating it over and over and over again isn't going to make it happen.

[etrigan69]

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

Crispin Glover is the only person for the role. Anyone who thinks differently has no interest in the Joker, or simply doesn't know Crispin Glover's work. If you honestly believe old, ugly men could ever be the elegant, beautiful jester that Joker is meant to be, you truly have no clue what the hell you are talking about. True, both Cesar Romero and Jack Nicholson began the trend for old, ugly Jokers, but all Batman fans know the animated Batman series with Hamill's voice absolutely redefined the Joker. The lanky, elusive Joker is both youthful, energetic, skinny, and has a nose like Crispin Glover. To cast anyone else, would be to mock the vision created by those who truly cared about this great iconic villian. Shame on all who believe Del Toro, Penn, Pitt, Roth or any of these losers could ever approach the magnificent portrayal Hamill created.

Crispin Glover for Joker.

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

Clown "prince" of Crime isn't just a catchy nickname, his elegance and beauty is what makes him so damn easy to watch, and so shocking when he turns from absolutely ammusing to brutally insane/homicidal. Jack Nicholson was just homocidal, rarely elegant or ammusing.


Not only do I know his work, but I've met him. In person he isn't as odd as you would think but he is odd. Physically he isn't very tall but shockingly to me he isn't a thin guy. He actually looks fit.

To be honest, I just don't think he has the range to pull it off as well as a few others do. Just my opinion.

[etrigan69]

By the way VF, where do you get "Beautiful" and "Elegant". I wouldn't describe him as either of those. He's actually kind of clumsy....

[E.C.]

you just made my case for me. common sense tells me that if i have two extremes, that the best pick is somewhere in the middle; a happy union of the two. Hamill looks horrible but has the voice. Glover looks like a joker but has a horrible voice. so they are both out of the running. next.

Uh, okay?



luke skywalker was irrelevant? anyways, Hamill did the best cartoon voice for the joker. that's it. that's his last claim to fame. he voiced something. seriously, have you seen the guy who voiced Sebastion the Crab from the Little Mermaid? he, get this, doesn't look anything like a crab; not even in red paint.

Argue the point or don't argue the point. Stop trying to be clever, as it just makes things even worse when you fail at it and/or overlook the topic.

Mark Hamill spent the last decade voicing the character in question, and his work is still considered by many to the best rendition of Joker yet. Why would any other role he's had be of any importance if he's already spent the last 10 years playing the role in question? He was Luke Skywalker. So? John Travolta was in Saturday Night Fever, Look Who's Talking, and all other random crap before he got his Pulp Fiction role. Yet, when the part for Chili in Get Shorty came around, he got it. And it was because of his work in one role that was perfect for to the role needed in Get Shorty.

If you're talking looks, then talk looks. Don't come up with some crap analogy as an attempt at humor.



i will pick on Mickey Rourke for being a crappy actor. i will applaud him for being a real life over-the-top thug though. now if Batman Begins were as surreal and self-mocking as Sin City, you might actually have a point.

You completely missed the point. But at this point, you're probably just trolling anyway, so it's not even much reason to explain myself any further.

[Muze]

Argue the point or don't argue the point. Stop trying to be clever, as it just makes things even worse when you fail at it and/or overlook the topic.

Mark Hamill spent the last decade voicing the character in question, and his work is still considered by many to the best rendition of Joker yet. Why would any other role he's had be of any importance if he's already spent the last 10 years playing the role in question? He was Luke Skywalker. So? John Travolta was in Saturday Night Fever, Look Who's Talking, and all other random crap before he got his Pulp Fiction role. Yet, when the part for Chili in Get Shorty came around, he got it. And it was because of his work in one role that was perfect for to the role needed in Get Shorty.

and you say i make stupid analogies? unless Hamill is voicing a joker robot in the movie, what is your effn point? he doesn't look the part. that's my gripe. his default features make him a poor canvas for whatever makeup team creates the Joker. i don't even like Travolta and i can say that he's on a different level than Hamill. Hamill is subsisting off of voice work for a reason. and, just to remind you once again, this isn't a cartoon we're talking about. seriously, your way of thinking would have all of the voice actors starring in the movie. get a clue.

You completely missed the point. But at this point, you're probably just trolling anyway, so it's not even much reason to explain myself any further.

so, you basically gave up.

[deDIKnight]

Sorry Muze but Hamill can pull it off

And yeah his "default features" arent great but thats what sfx makeup is for - Jack nicholson wasnt exactly joker material either

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/jokerhamill2.jpg

with little alteration of the guys face - this looks like somone you wouldnt want to see come at you on a bright day let alone a dark night

his eyes are like that - i've seen him do the bug out stare at a convention and the teeth can be prosthetics

remember this isnt comicbook joker - it doesnt have to be a skinny guy

As long as the performance is there and you have the bare mechanics of what makes the joker - you will not see the actor anymore but the true embodiment of chaotic madness

But yeah vincent cassel's good too - PHYSICALLY

Have you heard the guy talk English? Its hardly French free
Any American accent he'll pull off will sound like Chris Lambert in Highlander

If you had Cassels face and body and Hamills voice you'd have he perfect joker

But you dont need to do that if you have just Hamill - he can truly become the joker

The guys the 2nd choice on the board for a good reason

[etrigan69]

Hamill's too old.

Those I think could pull it off who's work I know so far?

Sean Penn

Tim Roth

and still my #1 pick, Ed Norton.

[Alonsovich]

I would like to see for the first time a tall and young Joker like in the comics. So midgets and over 45 year old actors are already not an option for me. We've had already Jokers that don't resemble the comic. For once I'd like something like it.

[deDIKnight]

Well how about Dr Crane goes totally loopy on the Fear gas and becomes Joker?

Theres someone that young tall and skinny enough for ya

Ach who cares

Sean Penn is Old and NOT the joker in any shape or form

I'll go for Tim Roth

But Tim aint exactly young or Tall either

[Alonsovich]

Well how about Dr Crane goes totally loopy on the Fear gas and becomes Joker?

Theres someone that young tall and skinny enough for ya

Ach who cares

Sean Penn is Old and NOT the joker in any shape or form

I'll go for Tim Roth

But Tim aint exactly young or Tall either

By tall I mean as tall as Batman. 6'1-6'3 like in the comic. He's not just some nut, he's an imposing figure. No midgets please. I'd take an unknown for this role...

[canino]

Crispin Glover is the only person for the role. Anyone who thinks differently has no interest in the Joker, or simply doesn't know Crispin Glover's work.



I've been in the "Crispin Glover as the Joker" camp ever since I first saw "Charlie's Angels". The guy really does look the part, and he's appropriately very, very creepy.

Unfortunately, he's also crazy as a friggin' loon!

I have a real concern that his sizeable "eccentricities" would get in the way of the movie that we ALL want to be successful. I doubt his ability to promote the film, and worst of all, I doubt his ability to work with other actors and the director. I can just picture this guy getting really out of control.

Bettany, on the other hand is a pro. He's an actor, with range, who can ACT crazy. He doesn't actually have to BE crazy. Until his name was thrown into the mix I hadn't ever considered him, but the more I think about it, the more I like the choice. I'm a huge fan of Master & Commander, and really liked what he did with that role. Yes, I know, his character in M&C was nothing like the Joker, but that's not my point. He's a good actor, and that's what this role of the Joker needs.

Oh, and if you think I'm exaggerating when I say that Crispin Hellion Glover is crazy, you need to see the trailer for his latest Director/Acting Independent "art film" project, "WHAT IS IT? (http://skullranch.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=11)".

(WARNING: The trailer contains nudity. Not for the faint of heart, or those who find all Downs Syndrome casts offensive.)


The boy ain't right.


Of course, nothing we say adds up to a hill of beans anyway, does it? It's not the decision of any one of us. It will be the decision of Nolan and his casting director. I'm sure they'll choose whoever they think is best.

It IS terribly interesting to watch various tribes just talk past one another on this forum though. Simultaneously tedious and entertaining. Thanks.

[Boom]

WHAT IS IT? (http://skullranch.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=11)".

(WARNING: The trailer contains nudity. Not for the faint of heart, or those who find all Downs Syndrome casts offensive.).
.....What on Earth? Wow.

[The Last Meatbag]

his middle name is hellion....wow

[Muze]

his middle name is hellion....wow

yeah, i wonder how often he got beaten up as a kid.

[canino]

yeah, i wonder how often he got beaten up as a kid.

Apparently, not enough.

[DDRSkata]

The title of that movie sums up the big question in my mind after I finished watching the trailer. O_o

[my0pic_spidey]

i've just seen the trailer.WHat the Hell is that??!

*Getting goosebumps*

[ReaperFett]

Paul Bettany, Jason Lee, Tim Roth, Vincent Cassel or Christopher Eccleston would be my top 5.

[Ark-el]

has anyone seen this?
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20563
(http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20563)

[DDRSkata]

has anyone seen this?
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20563
(http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20563)


There have been like a dozen threads about that.

[FreeBeerForAll]

how about this guy
http://tinypic.com/6f76uu.jpg

Paddy Considine from In America and Cindarella Man.

him and Paul Bettany are my choices

wow, thats actually a really good idea. paddy was also in probably my favorite movie, a room for romeo brass. i had never thought of him, but now that i do i think hes perfect

[Tangled Web]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/Bruingold/penn_edited.jpg

sean penn.

[Nick Kal]

There are definite nos for me when casting Joker... Depp, Hammill, DeFoe, Lee, etc... And I really do want Hulme for the role... Glover would be ok.. but not great, IMO... but really I do think that I'm going to sit back and wait for the Joker casting announcement and I'm sure I'll be please with Nolan's decision. He didn't dissapoint with Batman, did he?

[VenomFang]

By the way VF, where do you get "Beautiful" and "Elegant". I wouldn't describe him as either of those. He's actually kind of clumsy....

If you watched the animated Batman series, you would know that Joker is asthetically pleasing. He is a very chizzled, distinct looking man. There is nothing clumsy about him either, he is Batman's greatest foe. No clumsy man could ever challenge the Batman.

Crispin Glover for Joker.

[Tropics]

The best actor is long since dead, the perfect Joker is the freaky looking old black and white actor manip BY FAR.

[VenomFang]

The best actor is long since dead, the perfect Joker is the freaky looking old black and white actor manip BY FAR.

You are way off and you know nothing about the Joker. Joker isn't scary. He utilizes tools of death, which is what you should be scared of. The Joker himself is actually disarming in his charm and wit. Infact, on the surface, he almost seems like the most fun person in the world to hang out with. Problem is, beyond his jesting he wants to kill you, and have fun doing it. That's what is scary about the Joker, but the Joker himself and his entire shtick is to be not scary. Even Jack Nicholson's Joker, which is by far the darkest and cynical version of the character, became an acceptable media figure, during the parade scene. He was embraced, even when he physically looked scarier than his intended comic book rendering. That is the truth behind the character, he isn't scary, and isn't trying to scare you. He is trying to be your friend, then gas you.

More on the Joker; he is Batman's polar opposite. Batman uses fear to intimdate you, Joker uses jokes and gags to lower your gaurd. Where Batman uses discipline and self-imposed rules and regulations, Joker re-invents himself everyday and relishes in chaos and mayhem, and JOY. Literally, he loves what he does, where as Batman uses his pain to fuel him. That is why Joker is opposite of Batman. Batman hates his costume, he hates criminals, and he hates having to do what he feels he has to do. Joker however gets off on his own antics. Joker isn't scary, he isn't in pain, he loves what he does, and he kills people. That is the Joker, the perfect opposite of Batman.

More yet, The Joker is an ex-comedian who's wife died accidently during the testing of a baby-bottle heater. That drove her husband nutty, and on that fateful night, during a robbery he was obligated to perform, he fell into those chemicals. Totally unhinged, the ex-comedian beleived life to be a sick joke, and the white skin and green hair didn't help matters. Joker can't be scary, because he had a wife, and was expecting a child. There is a very human element to the Joker, that has never been brought to the screen. If you search the boards you will find who I want to play him, but this isn't a casting thread. This is to inform all of you why Joker is Batman's greatest foe, and the pathos and metaphors behind their eternal battle. Also, I hope to put to rest all the ideas of making Joker scary and freakish, when he is meant to be rather beautiful and compelling. I hope this has been educational.

[Digital_Ashes]

No no no no no, Joker isn't FUNNY, he is a FAILED comedian, he isn't charming, he isn't beautiful, THAT'S THE THING.

The fact is the Joker should be grotesque, he should be horribly mutated from the acid, not happy and clownish. He should kind of remind you of a clown with the looks, with the pale skin and green hair that's it.

The Joker is sick and demented, and not to mention criminally insane. He wasn't American Dad, he wasn't Mr. Amazing, he was an abusive guy.

Batman and Joker aren't opposite at all, infact they are quite the same, except the chose different paths. I mean logically speaking Bruce Wayne is completely insane, he dresses up as a bat, and strikes "fear" into wrong-doers, a vigilante basically, his own form of justice, which is fear. Joker could have done the same thing, but he chose to kill people who deemed wrong, it is the same principal as Batman except to the extreme, Joker is like Batman with no morals and huffing turpentine. The Joker uses his pain as misfortune to his advantage, not his Jokes, because he isn't funny. I mean one of his nicknames is, "The Harlequin of Hate" he is evil, he has no morals, and he logistically the same as batman but multiplied by 200.

[VenomFang]

Joker was never ugly, or grotesque. He is a very chizzled, defined looking man. (with the obvious exception of every live interpretation of the character, sadly) Joker keeps a light atmosphere about him, like he is always in an amusement park. Even during homicidal acts, to Joker, its a joke. When he see's Batman, this super serious, demented man, Joker's gut reaction is to laugh in his face at how absurd the world is. Joker's sense of humor is more based on reality than insanity. By dressing up like a clown, he confirms how rediculous our lives must be, to face a terrorist threat in the form of silliness. There is a great genious behind that, something the Joker you are describing would be uncapable of understanding or conceiving of. He wouldn't be the Joker if he was just a homicidal maniac. What makes the Joker the Joker, is he understands 100% what he is doing, and thinks its really really funny, and ironic.

[etrigan69]

If you watched the animated Batman series, you would know that Joker is asthetically pleasing. He is a very chizzled, distinct looking man. There is nothing clumsy about him either, he is Batman's greatest foe. No clumsy man could ever challenge the Batman.

Crispin Glover for Joker.
I wasn't talking about The Joker. I meant Crispin Glover.

[Alonsovich]

As I said, no midgets please. We have a 6'1 actor playing Bats. We need someone at least 6'2-6'3 tall for the Joker. Physically imposing, not another midget. Someone to whom you look at and say "hey, that's the Joker" and not "hey, that's XXXXX as the Joker". If this rumor of Hulme is true, then Nolan is going the right direction. A 6'3 tall Joker and totally unknown.

[my0pic_spidey]

As I said, no midgets please. We have a 6'1 actor playing Bats. We need someone at least 6'2-6'3 tall for the Joker. Physically imposing, not another midget. Someone to whom you look at and say "hey, that's the Joker" and not "hey, that's XXXXX as the Joker". If this rumor of Hulme is true, then Nolan is going the right direction. A 6'3 tall Joker and totally unknown.


sounds like the twisted puppy known as the crispin glover
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/britton_w00n/CrispenGlover-Joker.jpg

[deDIKnight]

CHRIS ECCLESTON WILL NOT PLAY JOKER - FULL STOP Dammit!!!!

He gave up playing one iconic character - Dr. Who

he wont go and play another

As for Crispin Glovers "movie" - jeeez

[Alonsovich]

sounds like the twisted puppy known as the crispin glover
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/britton_w00n/CrispenGlover-Joker.jpg

Glover an unknown? Whatever... 6'3 and unknown sounds like Hulme or someone chosen in a worldwide casting call.

[bbb]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/baz82/brody.jpg

[Hattori_Gonzo]

Here's an interesting casting choice that came to me the other night after a few too many drinks.

Picture a highly loved children's show host who has been villified by the general public over the last few years due to real and alleged activities? Someone who could easily play "on the edge", as well as vulnerable.

I'm talking about Paul Reubens. Yup, that's right... Pee Wee Herman.

http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2004/2004-03/19-pee-wee-inside.jpg

http://icq.planetout.com/images/popcornq/dbimages/p/peewee.jpg

And as Harley Quinn, the delicious Gwen Stefani...

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/137/039_C50886.jpg

http://www.freecelebrities.org/g/Gwen_Stefani/gwen_stefani_03.jpg


Discuss amongst yourselves...:joker:

[The Last Meatbag]

Hell no, but Gwen is hot

[Hattori_Gonzo]

Hell no, but Gwen is hot

Alright, I'd be willing to find out why there was such a knee-jerk reaction against Reubens?

Chances are, whatever you say is all the more reason for him to play someone we're supposed to hate.

Something to think about, no? :joker:

[Muze]

If you watched the animated Batman series, you would know that Joker is asthetically pleasing. He is a very chizzled, distinct looking man.

well, all of that should change for the sequel. i want a scary joker; someone you'd be afraid of if he returned home late at night and found him standing in your living room. that photo manip of Conrad Veidt is what the joker should look like. Batman needs someone as equally frightening as himself to face in the sequel. Bruce used a scary creature as a symbol to fight crime. Joker should be the opposite. he should take the image of the happy clown and twist it all to pieces.

[Muze]

Alright, I'd be willing to find out why there was such a knee-jerk reaction against Reubens?

Chances are, whatever you say is all the more reason for him to play someone we're supposed to hate.

Something to think about, no? :joker:

i hate his voice and the way he laughs.

[Hattori_Gonzo]

i hate his voice and the way he laughs.

Ok, I'm confused... As Pee-Wee, or as Reubens? Pee Wee is only a character. Have you seen Reubens in Buffy, or Blow?

[Timstuff]

I really hope the Sean Penn rumors are false. Asking Sean Penn to play the Joker is like asking John Kerry to play Jay Leno. Anyone see the Saturday Night Live sketch "Sean Penn's Celebrity Roast"? The man is not Joker material unless they plan on going the Nicholson route but less entertaining.

[paranoidboy]

http://images.faceparty.com/public/1214/images/dondaboss2001_13756010.jpg

[Muze]

Ok, I'm confused... As Pee-Wee, or as Reubens? Pee Wee is only a character. Have you seen Reubens in Buffy, or Blow?

both. what's the difference? and i don't like his sleepy stoner eyes either. reminds me of Edward Furlong.

[FreeBeerForAll]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/steve-coogan.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/cooganjoker.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a358/FireMonkeyHead/sunstudiohappy.jpg


steve coogan for joker. eh? eh??
English actor whose versatile character portrayals, range of voices and gift for mimicry have earned him comparisons with the late Peter Sellers.

[amazinspiderman]

i think adrien brody is a very talented actor who could pull the joker off very well. he is my second choice behind glover. also no pretty boys like depp and law. and why is everyone sayuing unknown? they didnt cast one "unknown" for any part in the first movie. why would they start now? what they have done is hired actors based upon their acting skills and not their fame. what a concept. if only batman forever and batman and robin employed this same train of thought

[Detective Flass]

Tim Roth for the Joker!!!!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/casketmouth/joker.jpg

[Matis17]

I think Sean Penn would make a pretty good Joker.
Here's a quick manip that I did.





http://home.comcast.net/%7Ehypnojoad/penn_joker.jpg

"Before the Batman showed up, Gotham City was a happy place. They had flowery meadows, and rainbow skies, and rivers made of chocolate, where children danced, and laughed, and played, with gumdrop smiles"

Heh.Cool. A Cesar Romero style Joker.

[Keyser Soze]

I think that names like Tim Roth and Sean Penn are actually far more logical choices for The Joker than someone like Crispin Glover. They may not look exactly like the comic book Joker, but I think they could give a far better performance.

I stated this before, but who is Nolan more likely to cast? A largely unknown character actor with a reputation of being difficult to work with, who has nothing to offer other than looking the part? Or a largely respected character actor who will be an impressive addition to his starry high-quality cast line-up?

And I have to say, VenomFang, that your argument seems very misguided. First ,I have to state that calling great actors like Sean Penn, Benicio Del Toro and Tim Roth "losers", and even implying that they are in any way inferior to Crispin Glover, one of Hollywood's red-headed step-childs, is absolutely absurd.

Secondly, I have to say that I don't think you really have any idea about The Joker as a character. At his best, Joker should NOT be funny, in any way. He's not funny. He should be absolutely terrifying. He paralysed, and probably raped Barbara Gordon. He beat Jason Todd to death with a crowbar, and blew him up for good measure. he has killed and maimed thousands. This is not a funny guy. This is a twisted lunatic who wants to kill you. And he'll laugh while he does it.

And I don't get where this whole beautiful/elegant thing came along. No way. He's very theatrical, yes. But he has been horribly disfigured. He should be a disturbing sight, and therefore shouldn't be played by a pretty boy.

So, enough talk about Crispin Glover. I'd rather have someone who can deliver a great performance as The Joker rather than a great likeness. Everyone campaigning for Crispin Glover reminds me of the people who moaned about Kevin Spacey being cast as Lex Luthor, wanting Billy Zane in the role. Let's have a great character actor playing The Clown Prince of Crime. Penn, Roth, or Del Toro.

[Matis17]

Crispin Glover a pretty boy? You so crazy.

[Loup]

Johnny Depp for Joker.....

He is perfect. Since batman Begins was going for the realistic feel and less focus on special effects and gimmick, depp is perfect. He has this intrinsic ability to become a weird ad zany character. Jim Carey would be my second choice, but he's all about doing serious roles now. Also his bit as the riddler may be a problem with a lot of fans, as mentioned several times already. JD would be perfect and he already looks like the joker in Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory. I'm just glad that Depp was picked to be on this poll.........adios

[Alonsovich]

I think that names like Tim Roth and Sean Penn are actually far more logical choices for The Joker than someone like Crispin Glover. They may not look exactly like the comic book Joker, but I think they could give a far better performance.

I stated this before, but who is Nolan more likely to cast? A largely unknown character actor with a reputation of being difficult to work with, who has nothing to offer other than looking the part? Or a largely respected character actor who will be an impressive addition to his starry high-quality cast line-up?
And I have to say, VenomFang, that your argument seems very misguided. First ,I have to state that calling great actors like Sean Penn, Benicio Del Toro and Tim Roth "losers", and even implying that they are in any way inferior to Crispin Glover, one of Hollywood's red-headed step-childs, is absolutely absurd.

Secondly, I have to say that I don't think you really have any idea about The Joker as a character. At his best, Joker should NOT be funny, in any way. He's not funny. He should be absolutely terrifying. He paralysed, and probably raped Barbara Gordon. He beat Jason Todd to death with a crowbar, and blew him up for good measure. he has killed and maimed thousands. This is not a funny guy. This is a twisted lunatic who wants to kill you. And he'll laugh while he does it.

And I don't get where this whole beautiful/elegant thing came along. No way. He's very theatrical, yes. But he has been horribly disfigured. He should be a disturbing sight, and therefore shouldn't be played by a pretty boy.

So, enough talk about Crispin Glover. I'd rather have someone who can deliver a great performance as The Joker rather than a great likeness. Everyone campaigning for Crispin Glover reminds me of the people who moaned about Kevin Spacey being cast as Lex Luthor, wanting Billy Zane in the role. Let's have a great character actor playing The Clown Prince of Crime. Penn, Roth, or Del Toro.

Or maybe he can cast an unknown that is a great actor, in the style of a Cillian Murphy as the Scarecrow. I do agree with you vision of the Joker, but it should be added to that... the Joker from the comics is as tall as Batman. I want for the first time a physically imposing Joker... a 6'3 Joker.

[Keyser Soze]

Yes, but there are various elements of The Joker we should take into account:

- Tall, lanky build
- Twisted, dark sense of humour
- Strong sense of charisma
- A terrifying mean streak

The look is just one element of the character. Crispin Glover has never impressed me with his work. I say if he was cast, he'd be able to nail that first bullet point easy. But the other three? Unlikely.

Now take, let's say, Tim Roth. At 5 foot 7, he's not exactly what you'd call tall, though he could get the lanky part with a little traning. I have no doubt that he fills the other three points perfectly. Just watch his performance in "Rob Roy". He's a foul, evil character. But he is darkly funny as well, and has a charismatic sense of theatricality.

And as for the height thing, I want to again point to "Rob Roy". Watch the final sword fight between Tim Roth and Liam Neeson. Neeson was probably taller than Bale in "Batman Begins". In "Rob Roy", yes, Roth is noticeably smaller. But the height difference isn't anything ridiculous.

So, to summarise, I'd rather have a short actor who can nail hte character of The Joker perfectly than some mediocre actor who is only a popular choice because of his height and build.

Oh, and one more thing - yes, Paddy Considine rocks. I suggetsed him way back, but didn't have a pick to back it up...

[Alonsovich]

Yes, but there are various elements of The Joker we should take into account:

- Tall, lanky build
- Twisted, dark sense of humour
- Strong sense of charisma
- A terrifying mean streak

The look is just one element of the character. Crispin Glover has never impressed me with his work. I say if he was cast, he'd be able to nail that first bullet point easy. But the other three? Unlikely.

Now take, let's say, Tim Roth. At 5 foot 7, he's not exactly what you'd call tall, though he could get the lanky part with a little traning. I have no doubt that he fills the other three points perfectly. Just watch his performance in "Rob Roy". He's a foul, evil character. But he is darkly funny as well, and has a charismatic sense of theatricality.

And as for the height thing, I want to again point to "Rob Roy". Watch the final sword fight between Tim Roth and Liam Neeson. Neeson was probably taller than Bale in "Batman Begins". In "Rob Roy", yes, Roth is noticeably smaller. But the height difference isn't anything ridiculous.

So, to summarise, I'd rather have a short actor who can nail hte character of The Joker perfectly than some mediocre actor who is only a popular choice because of his height and build.

Oh, and one more thing - yes, Paddy Considine rocks. I suggetsed him way back, but didn't have a pick to back it up...

I don't want Glover either. I think that's why the Hulme rumors are pretty interesting. The guy is scrawny and 6'3, and if the rumors are true of him being Nolan's favorite, then he must be a pretty solid actor. If these rumors are true Nolan has certainly taken the right direction. I think he'll pull a Cillian Murphy as the Scarecrow situation with the Joker. The star will be for the Dent role IMO.

[Spidey-Bat]

I do agree with you vision of the Joker, but it should be added to that... the Joker from the comics is as tall as Batman. I want for the first time a physically imposing Joker... a 6'3 Joker.

He's an inch shorter than Batman, 6'1

[Alonsovich]

He's an inch shorter than Batman, 6'1

That's almost no difference. The certain thing is he's not 5'10, which is the problem with most of the suggestions. The problem with the rest of the suggestions is they're pretty weak actors. We need a solid 6'1-6'3 tall ACTOR, not only based on looks.

[Matis17]

He's an inch shorter than Batman, 6'1Every source I've seen on CB Joker's height lists him as being 6'5".

[Detective Flass]

There is no actor out there who has the full package.

[Alonsovich]

There is no actor out there who has the full package.

There is. That's why we need an unknown.

[FCEEVIPER]

WB has already stated that The Joker will not be played by some unknow actor.

I read some where.

[Orlando Spider]

CRISPIN GLOVER FOR THE JOKER!!!

http://www.crankycritic.com/qa/pf_articles/images/willard_ss-797.jpghttp://www.imagehosting.us/imagehosting/showimg.jpg/?id=567779

[etrigan69]

There is no actor out there who has the full package.
Look I'm telling you guys, Edward F'n Norton.

6'1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001570/bio)

Chameleon actor.

Not to old.

Not too fat or buffed.

Why the F not?!?!?!

The only fault I can give the guy is the bastard stole my woman!!!

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00011/hayek_11426a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/etrigan69/jokernortoncopy.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

We can talk about pleasing a small harcdcore fanbase all we want,. but the fact of the matter is that WB are probably thinking about pleasing the casual fan. So, in that respect, an actor needs to be cast that can be seen as living up to Jack Nicholson.

This is where I think a guy like Sean Penn could work. I was talking to my friend the other day. He is not a comic fan, but enjoyed "Batman Begins". I told him that Sean Penn was a possible candidate to play The Joker, and he got really excited! I think that's the kind of reaction that's going to be wanted. WB are wanting for someone who doesn't really follow Batman to say "Wow, HE'S playing The Joker!? That's going to be awesome!" And you're not going to get that reaction over an unknown who merely looks the part.

Everyone knows that The Joker's return to the screen is going to mean big box office. So WB are obviously going to make as much out of that as they can by casting a big name to furtheer add to the hype.

[Dark Phantom]

CRISPIN GLOVER FOR THE JOKER!!!

http://www.imagehosting.us/imagehosting/showimg.jpg/?id=567779

I wouldn't mind Crispin Glover as The Joker, just as long as his hair wasn't parted down the middle. He looks like a nerd when he does that. Plus, it reminds me of when he played Roger McFly in Back To The Future.

[VenomFang]

Here is Crispin with Joker hair

http://www.filmstew.com/Users/Features/11216/jv_glover.jpg

He kinda resembles Nicholson, but looks far more like the Joker. What a perfect choice

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/ZCW/Joker-Crispincopy.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/ZCW/TheJokercopy.jpg

[Spidey-Bat]

wut movie is that manip from?

[Muze]

wut movie is that manip from?

Charlie's Angels

[TimDrake64x]

mmm i use to think that glover would be the best. but ive never NEVER seen him smile. plus his only acting role ive seen him in was a no speaking part. i think that alan cumming would be the perfect choice (he looks exactly like the joker from the killing joke) plus hes british, perfect choice for nolan. can some do a manip of alan as the joker....please

[da batman]

YES glover's doesnt smile, and in the photoshop images of him they always make his mouth bigger then it is. trying to trick the viewers. and dont say its nothing make up cant change cause i dont think theres make up to make someone have bigger lips or make them smile

[Ark-el]

i heard a few people say they wanted paul rubens for joker a while back so i did this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/kon-el/PeeWeeHerman-joker.jpgi also made this buscemi minap
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/kon-el/buscemijoker.jpg

[JackBauer24]

One word: Weaving.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/JackBauer24/another.jpg

[DDRSkata]

Two words: Hell no.

[VenomFang]

Here is Crispin with Joker hair

http://www.filmstew.com/Users/Features/11216/jv_glover.jpg

He kinda resembles Nicholson, but looks far more like the Joker. What a perfect choice

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/ZCW/Joker-Crispincopy.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/ZCW/TheJokercopy.jpg

This is Glover's role

[Timstuff]

Paul Ruebens is a pediphile. Please stop nominating him.

[S_H_F_4839]

I threw out the name Ben Foster but noone noticed, so I am going to go out on a limb here, and follow me for a second, before flaming me, because I know just by mentioning this next name I deserve a flaming but, here me out, How about Tom Cruise for Joker, dude has a big smile, he also has played a psycho before in collateral, and I think that he would play a good joker, I mean alot of people blame him and katie for the lack of publicity this film got, I personally think rather than punish katie by writing off her character, they should embrace it and use it to their advantage in the next one, I mean I think cruise would nail the role opposite bale.

[Postman]

No, Tom Cruise does not have the range to play Joker. Cruise is a good actor but he has to be cast in the right roles and if you do that he can churn out a good performance, but there is no way he can handle the complexities of the joker. Frankly neither can Glover. I don't understand you people so what if he looks like joker i rather have someone that can act every bit like the Joker. Appearance is way down the line you are going to have to use prosthetics anyways no matter who you cast anyways. You are going to need to cast a great actor in order to get a great performance and trust me Glover can't pull it off i like Glover too but he is not the Jman not even close he looks like him and that is it.

My choices:
1. Benecio Del Toro
2. Sean Penn
3. Tim Roth
4. Robert Downey Jr.

Bettany intrigues me but i have to see gangster #1 before i pass judgement on him.

[The Kid]

:joker: (http://whatisworkit.ytmnd.com/)jim carrey for joker.http://kino.tiscali.cz/apollo/pictures/200471616562189841.jpg we can just forget that he played the joker in forever already....

[Hattori_Gonzo]

I suggested it originally I'm telling you again, Paul Reubens would be the perfect choice. He makes so many people uncomfortable already and has the acting chops to pull off a seriously twisted Joker that would make people squirm in their seats.

My second pick would be Eccleston... I would only see George McFly in pancake makeup if it were Crispin Glover.

"Hello Batman... I'm Joker McFly.... I'm your density"

[Guyper1]

Those who voted for Johnny depp can forget about him already. Nolan criticized Burton's work for Batman films, why would Johnny Depp want to work with Nolan then?

It's like having Depp backstab Burton

[Guyper1]

http://www.starland.com/news/2003/images/030724joker.jpg

Why not just get back this actor since he's not well-known and he played a good Joker

[christpunchers]

I think that joker from dead-end is too much... too overboard and not that realistic... tone it down a bit and its perfect though.

[Qui Gon Ducard]

Hulme, Law and bloody Glover, c'mon people just because someone has a long face does this mean he is ideal for Mr J?......Glover is an awful actor IMO none of these people have had massive film have they ( oh yeah Law, Alfie......nope like I said none of these have had a massive film) We have a brilliant cast, being driven by an excellent director and someone who screenwriting may not be the best (Blade :Trinity) but cares and knows about this hero of ours pretty bloody well. Hamill is Excellent as TAS joker but not for the real thing. We have so many superb actors in this world and yet you want to go for someone because he looks the part. Ok then lets go for.....a horse....a white one could act as well as Glover. We now have stuff called make up in which we can transform an actor to look like a character. ( C'mon you did'nt really think the man in Sin City was born yellow did you?) LETS WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! We have such greats as Del Toro, Brody, Roth, Eccleston and Defoe to name a few. We want a cast to shake the film making world once more, If BB does not win any oscars I'l be bloody shocked, this is not from a fanboy POV but from an amatuer film makers. It was crafted so damn well that, Singer must be wetting himself after seeing it wondering how the hell he's going to top that and Ratner............well Ratner just wetting himself laughing at the fact he got the X3 job and no one noticed he's useless. Rami must be thinking ok someone to challenge me and yet if he was to look on here he'd be bloody laughing......GLOVER, LAW, HULME???????? oh dear people, it's not right. And as Mr Nolan has not yet singed for a sequel all this ' the latest person to be tagged with the joker casting' is all monkey sh**unless he's trying to get who he wants first, which is a very unusual way to do things. .....so please before you name anyone to play The Joker, THINK the face is not enough, acting chops are needed. And Dont reply watch Willard or The road to perdition, I have and like most were unimpressed by their perfomances. This is my opinion and I am going to stick with it............I thank you

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/gallery/2003/07/02/ca3473.jpghttp://www.archiveangel.com/gallery/small/white-horse2.jpg

SPOT THE DIFFERENCE!

[Castlewood]

I'm gonna have to go with Robin Williams.

http://www.hfpa.org/html/Robin_Williams/Robin_Williams.jpg

He's already worked with Nolan on "Insomnia", and he proved that he could play multi-dimensional roles where he doesn't have to be constantly silly. So, with a little make-up, I think this man could be our Joker. He certainly has the personality.

Movies that prove it to me:

Insomnia (serious personality)
One Hour Photo (Creepy and terrifying personality)
Robin Williams: LIVE On Broadway (funny and crazy personality)

Throw all those in a can and shake it......and you have THE JOKER. Each movie has something that is required for that character. Imagine all three at the same time. It's perfect.

[deDIKnight]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/Bruingold/21grams_nyff10.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/Deltorojoker.jpg

Someone asked for a good Del Toro manip for joker

Deadeye delivers

Jackieboy with a dyejob

it wouldnt be the first time a latino actor played the Joker

And like Robert Deniro - Del Toro will gain and lose weight for a part

He becomes his characters, and is a much more acceptable choice than Sean penn

The Joker NEEDS EXPRESSIVE EYES people

And great actor Sean Penn may be - he's got eyes like pissholes in the snow

Del Toro
Tim Roth
Adrian Brody
John Turturro

All have expressive eyes - you have to have that if you act behind heavy make up

Jack did

[jtsteward]

Okay a lot of people know I like Dafoe as the Joker. I know he won't get the role because he played the Green Goblin in Spider Man but I have made up my mind up on who I would like to see.

My choice is Crispin Glover. But he has to have his hair slicked all the way back like this, That hair parting down the middle thing he does makes him look like a douche.

http://www.filmstew.com/Users/Features/11216/jv_glover.jpg

[Detective Flass]

Tim Roth for The Joker!!!

[Dark Knight]

These are my finalists....

1. Sean Penn (can someone do a good manip of Penn as Joker?)

2. Crispin Glover

3. Johnny Depp

:joker:

[Dark Knight]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/Bruingold/21grams_nyff10.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/deDIKnight/Deltorojoker.jpg

Someone asked for a good Del Toro manip for joker

Deadeye delivers

Jackieboy with a dyejob

it wouldnt be the first time a latino actor played the Joker

And like Robert Deniro - Del Toro will gain and lose weight for a part

He becomes his characters, and is a much more acceptable choice than Sean penn

The Joker NEEDS EXPRESSIVE EYES people

And great actor Sean Penn may be - he's got eyes like pissholes in the snow

Del Toro
Tim Roth
Adrian Brody
John Turturro

All have expressive eyes - you have to have that if you act behind heavy make up

Jack did


expressive eyes or more important maybe the shape of the eyebrows....and Penn has some wicked looking eyebrows when he smirks, grins, or smiles...

[Dark Knight]

I think that names like Tim Roth and Sean Penn are actually far more logical choices for The Joker than someone like Crispin Glover. They may not look exactly like the comic book Joker, but I think they could give a far better performance.

I stated this before, but who is Nolan more likely to cast? A largely unknown character actor with a reputation of being difficult to work with, who has nothing to offer other than looking the part? Or a largely respected character actor who will be an impressive addition to his starry high-quality cast line-up?

And I have to say, VenomFang, that your argument seems very misguided. First ,I have to state that calling great actors like Sean Penn, Benicio Del Toro and Tim Roth "losers", and even implying that they are in any way inferior to Crispin Glover, one of Hollywood's red-headed step-childs, is absolutely absurd.

Secondly, I have to say that I don't think you really have any idea about The Joker as a character. At his best, Joker should NOT be funny, in any way. He's not funny. He should be absolutely terrifying. He paralysed, and probably raped Barbara Gordon. He beat Jason Todd to death with a crowbar, and blew him up for good measure. he has killed and maimed thousands. This is not a funny guy. This is a twisted lunatic who wants to kill you. And he'll laugh while he does it.

And I don't get where this whole beautiful/elegant thing came along. No way. He's very theatrical, yes. But he has been horribly disfigured. He should be a disturbing sight, and therefore shouldn't be played by a pretty boy.

So, enough talk about Crispin Glover. I'd rather have someone who can deliver a great performance as The Joker rather than a great likeness. Everyone campaigning for Crispin Glover reminds me of the people who moaned about Kevin Spacey being cast as Lex Luthor, wanting Billy Zane in the role. Let's have a great character actor playing The Clown Prince of Crime. Penn, Roth, or Del Toro.


Exactly! Why would Nolan go from great actors like Watanabe/Neeson as villians then cast a mediocre actor like Glover as Batmans most lethal foe?? Wouldn't make sense IMO. I think Nolan will push for Sean Penn hard for the role of the Clown Prince of Crime. Then like he did with Scarecrow in this film cast a good yet not a superstar actor like Murphy was for Dr. Crane. So for the role of Bruces' college friend and new DA Harvey Dent, i would think Liev Schrieber would be an ideal choice.

[Triad]

Let's face it...the way it's looking, it's probably gonna be Lachy Hulme - not my 1st choice (or even 4th, for that matter), but I can live with it because I have faith in Mr. Nolan's vision....He did alright for us so far!

[SINISTER SMILE]

more del toro manips!

[FreeBeerForAll]

http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=14106

the link is saying vincent cassell is the front runner.
i think its safe to call bull**** on this one

[Dark Knight]

http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=14106

the link is saying vincent cassell is the front runner.
i think its safe to call bull**** on this one



2006?? No way....i'm hoping for 2007...but i think Spidey 3 is coming out then right?? So i expect it to be in 2008......i would love to see it come out in 07 though....

[BatmanRules33]

i vote nobody cuz everyone mentioned here sucks as joker. i think nolan will surprise us again with HIS choice.

[BatmanRules33]

One word: Weaving.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/JackBauer24/another.jpg

and this is just a joke, right?

[VenomFang]

Joker isn't scary. He utilizes tools of death, which is what you should be scared of. The Joker himself is actually disarming in his charm and wit. Infact, on the surface, he almost seems like the most fun person in the world to hang out with. Problem is, beyond his jesting he wants to kill you, and have fun doing it. That's what is scary about the Joker, but the Joker himself and his entire shtick is to be not scary. Even Jack Nicholson's Joker, which is by far the darkest and cynical version of the character, became an acceptable media figure, during the parade scene. He was embraced, even when he physically looked scarier than his intended comic book rendering. That is the truth behind the character, he isn't scary, and isn't trying to scare you. He is trying to be your friend, then gas you.

More on the Joker; he is Batman's polar opposite. Batman uses fear to intimdate you, Joker uses jokes and gags to lower your gaurd. Where Batman uses discipline and self-imposed rules and regulations, Joker re-invents himself everyday and relishes in chaos and mayhem, and JOY. Literally, he loves what he does, where as Batman uses his pain to fuel him. That is why Joker is opposite of Batman. Batman hates his costume, he hates criminals, and he hates having to do what he feels he has to do. Joker however gets off on his own antics. Joker isn't scary, he isn't in pain, he loves what he does, and he kills people. That is the Joker, the perfect opposite of Batman.

More yet, The Joker is an ex-comedian who's wife died accidently during the testing of a baby-bottle heater. That drove her husband nutty, and on that fateful night, during a robbery he was obligated to perform, he fell into those chemicals. Totally unhinged, the ex-comedian beleived life to be a sick joke, and the white skin and green hair didn't help matters. Joker can't be scary, because he had a wife, and was expecting a child. There is a very human element to the Joker, that has never been brought to the screen. Crispin Glover should play Joker because he is both very creepy and very empathetic at the same time.

Now you know why Joker is Batman's greatest foe, and the pathos and metaphors behind their eternal battle. Also, I have put to rest all the ideas of making Joker scary and freakish, when he is meant to be rather beautiful and compelling. I hope this has been educational.

[VenomFang]

Here is Crispin with Joker hair

http://www.filmstew.com/Users/Features/11216/jv_glover.jpg

He kinda resembles Nicholson, but looks far more like the Joker. What a perfect choice

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/ZCW/Joker-Crispincopy.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/ZCW/TheJokercopy.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/baz82/JOKE.jpg

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

[Milkman95]

Not bad. My Top 5, in no particular order:

-Sean Penn
-Vincent Cassell
-Benicio Del Toro
-Paul Bettany
-Crispin Glover

[Timstuff]

As I said earlier, getting Sean Penn to play Joker would be like getting John Kerry to play Jay Leno. The man is so stiff I think he'd shatter if he fell down.

[Attikus]

Everyone seems to forget a formidable actor who has size, range and a dangerous look about him...Joaquin Phoenix. He would be a killer Joker.

Attikus

[Matis17]

Everyone seems to forget a formidable actor who has size, range and a dangerous look about him...Joaquin Phoenix. He would be a killer Joker.

AttikusJoaquin Phoenix is actually a rather petite 5'8" ;)

[deDIKnight]

Yeah but having watched Gladiator again over the weekend Joaquin Phoenix can pull it off

[Attikus]

Matis17

Damn! What's with every actor in Hollywood being a midget! Anyway, Phoenix has a good face. Good presence.

Attikus

[FreeBeerForAll]

As I said earlier, getting Sean Penn to play Joker would be like getting John Kerry to play Jay Leno. The man is so stiff I think he'd shatter if he fell down.

really? didn't seem that way in sweet and lowdown. or carlito's way. or fast times. or casualties of war. the man is an actor, who has played a wide variety of characters, and who would make a fantastic joker. unlike crispin glover, who seems to play pretty much the same character in every movie he's ever been in. quiet, timid, and pathetic. pretty much everything the joker isn't.

[deDIKnight]

Sean Penn is no Joker

Tim Roth, Del Toro YES!!!!

And before anybody goes see such and such

I OWN all Sean Penns films and while I respect him as an actor - he just isnt high on the Joker List for me

Crispins got the LOOK - but so has Alan Cumming --and Alan's a much better actor than Glover

[Sir Black Fox]

I think you folks have skipped over someone that would bring a very NEW, fresh edge to the Joker. Something never tried before and something that could be dark and unfamiliar to the audience.

Imagine making the Joker a much grittier character. . . a Transvestite with class, style, wit, and a penchant for killing?

Who do I have in mind to play the new joker?

http://www.blackfoxdesigns.com/eddiejoke.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

The more I think about it, the more I just love the idea of Tim Roth playing The Joker. Benicio Del Toro and Sean Penn were originally higher on my shortlist, but I think that, although I would be happy with either of them being cast, Tim Roth is my current top choice to play The Joker.

Yeah, he's only 5 foot 7, but i'd say that's the ONLY thing going against him. In terms of facial structure, actinig ability and charisma, he could be great.

So, my updated shortlist:

1. Tim Roth
2. Benicio Del Toro
3. Sean Penn
4. Johnny Depp
5. Ralph Fiennes

I may seem indecisive about my pick for The Joker. But it's the same basic shortlist. It's just my top choice that keeps changing. Anyone in this shortlist would make a great Joker.

[Two-Face]

I think you folks have skipped over someone that would bring a very NEW, fresh edge to the Joker. Something never tried before and something that could be dark and unfamiliar to the audience.

Imagine making the Joker a much grittier character. . . a Transvestite with class, style, wit, and a penchant for killing?

Who do I have in mind to play the new joker?

http://www.blackfoxdesigns.com/eddiejoke.jpg




NO!!

[Sir Black Fox]

whatever happened to Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent?

[American_Idiot]

Why would Lachy Hulme be the frontrunner for the role? He doesn't look the part, nor does he have the acting chops. I mean, what has he been in that is so great or made you think "this guy IS the Joker"? Does Nolan have a close friendship with him? What is it exactly that people see in him to want to have him play this part? I'm just curious. No offence to those who'd like to see him as :joker: .

[Brian2887]

My Top 6 for the Joker.


6. Brad Pitt
http://www.kirstenp.claranet.de/moviefaces/actor/p/bp_12m01.jpg

5. Vincent Cassell
http://www.myvideostore.com/content/people/pics/vincent_cassel.jpg

4. Paul Bettany
http://latenightgames.com/labynight/gallery/ian/Ian_pbettany7.jpg

3. Jeff Goldblum
http://www.s-t.com/daily/07-96/07-07-96/goldblum.jpg

2. Jason Lee
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dimension_films/jay_and_silent_bob_strike_back/jason_lee/jaypre5.jpg

1. Jude Law
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39771000/jpg/_39771143_law_smile_ap203.jpg

[Tangled Web]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b366/Bruingold/veidt05.jpg

[Alonsovich]

Why would Lachy Hulme be the frontrunner for the role? He doesn't look the part, nor does he have the acting chops. I mean, what has he been in that is so great or made you think "this guy IS the Joker"? Does Nolan have a close friendship with him? What is it exactly that people see in him to want to have him play this part? I'm just curious. No offence to those who'd like to see him as :joker: .

Recently, Lee Bermejo made a Joker sketch with him... just look at that one...

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/bermejo_joker1.jpg

[J.R.]

Whoever they cast as the Joker, I hope he's really diabolical and twisted. Pretty much make Nicholson's Joker look like a boy scout. And the Dead End look is the way to go I think.

[Muze]

Joker isn't scary. He utilizes tools of death, which is what you should be scared of. The Joker himself is actually disarming in his charm and wit. Infact, on the surface, he almost seems like the most fun person in the world to hang out with.

that should really change. we've seen charming joker, in the animated series and '89. i want to see something like that Conrad Veidt photomanip Joker. i want a Joker who 'gets his laugh' from death and destruction; a nightmare version of Batman. i want his own goons and other criminals who interact with to do so reluctantly. he should be someone you'd be scared to be in a room with, because of his face and his proclivity for violence. he can giggle while stabbing you or calmly recite a bad joke while burning a prostitute's face off. completely fearless. completely insane. completely unpredictable. no dual identity for the joker. he's flashier than Batman but he's not playboy or politician. i'd just have him fill the vaccuum left by Falcone (or maybe just walks up and kills whoever does fill the vaccum). what would be threatening about the Joker is his refusal to fit into Batman's crime model. even the worst criminals have a code they live by. most won't kill small children or babies for instance. well Joker wouldn't have any of these 'limitations.' he might place a bomb in a bank; not for money but to cause chaos. he'd simply be too hard for Batman to analyze/intercept.

[VenomFang]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/baz82/JOKE.jpg

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

[Brian2887]

We all know Glover looks the part. There's no debating that. However, his voice is whiny and scared. He flat out cannot act the part.

[FreeBeerForAll]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/baz82/JOKE.jpg

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg
seriously dude, while i admire your passion and commitment in Glover getting the role, i think you've gotten your point across. please stop posting the same thing over and over.

[TimDrake64x]

can someone please manip a picture of alan cumming as the joker, he really is perfect, hes nightcrawler from x2, please someone

[TheBat812]

We all know Glover looks the part. There's no debating that. However, his voice is whiny and scared. He flat out cannot act the part.
he's an actor, they do this thing called change their voice to fit their parts. it's amazing isnt it?


btw here's the lee drawing of Lachy Hulme colored up:
http://img11.echo.cx/img11/5946/jokermanip3bd.jpg

[darknight7]

http://img28.echo.cx/img28/2514/joker339oe.jpg

--dk7

[Matis17]

Who the crap is that?