Joker Casting Threads [merged-30]

[darknight7]

Who the crap is that?

Just some nut:hyper:

--dk7

[Matis17]

Indeed.

[darknight7]

http://img292.echo.cx/img292/573/joker02ka.jpg
--dk7

[Dark Knight]

Just some nut:hyper:

--dk7


LOL....

[DDRSkata]

http://weirdal.com/images/pshop5.jpg

Weird Al, from the Photoshop page of his official site.

[FCEEVIPER]

http://www.starland.com/news/2003/images/030724joker.jpg

Why not just get back this actor since he's not well-known and he played a good Joker

Because he was crap in that short film.


IMO

[Carmine Falcone]

the whole movie was awful.

[Triad]

BONER DAMMIT! *syke!*

[Alonsovich]

btw here's the lee drawing of Lachy Hulme colored up:
http://img11.echo.cx/img11/5946/jokermanip3bd.jpg

If this is how Hulme looks like as the Joker... then cast him right now. That thing is seriously disturbing...:up:

[Detective Flass]

That isn't the Joker I know and love. It's stupid looking and looks more like Sweetooth from Twisted Metal. :o

[Detective Flass]

One word: Weaving.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/JackBauer24/another.jpg

Kong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Detective Flass]

1. Tim Roth


Yes! :D

[Alonsovich]

That isn't the Joker I know and love. It's stupid looking and looks more like Sweetooth from Twisted Metal. :o

Then prepare yourself... because Bermejo has been generally spot on with what later Nolan has done.

[Detective Flass]

I doubt that'll be the Joker's design in the movie.

[DorkyFresh]

btw here's the lee drawing of Lachy Hulme colored up:
http://img11.echo.cx/img11/5946/jokermanip3bd.jpg
It's only speculation that he based that drawing on Hulme....he, himself, never said that's Hulme as Joker in the drawing.



Besides....even if he DID base his Joker on Hulme, that Joker doesn't look a thing like Hulme.

[DorkyFresh]

Then prepare yourself... because Bermejo has been generally spot on with what later Nolan has done.
Bermejo's Batman had a leather suit with the Batsymbol cut into the cowl........Nolan's Batman has a rubber suit with the Batsymbol the way it is in Hush.

Bermejo wasn't even close.....I dunno what you're talking about. He's a great artist, but he has little to do with Nolan and the Batman movies.

[darknight7]

http://img28.echo.cx/img28/2514/joker339oe.jpg

--dk7

http://img63.echo.cx/img63/5976/joker332zf.jpg

--dk7

[TimDrake64x]

please dont let lache play the joker...just something about him i dont like. plus wb and nolan have said they wanted someone more well known (u know wb does for the money).

ALAN CUMMING DAMN IT!

[DDRSkata]

It's only speculation that he based that drawing on Hulme....he, himself, never said that's Hulme as Joker in the drawing.



Besides....even if he DID base his Joker on Hulme, that Joker doesn't look a thing like Hulme.

I could've sworn he said it was Hulme...I know his Two-Face was Denzel Washington, though.

[Matis17]

Yeah, I remember him being quoted as saying it was based on Hulme. Though he admitted that the end product really doesn't look much like him at all.

[SuperGMan]

Crispen Glover
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/SuperGMan/jv_gloverjoker.jpg

[The Kid]

no

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[Detective Flass]

Development Hell is saying Tim Roth is a candidate. :joker:

http://development-hell.com/news_detail.php?idnews=378&PHPSESSID=9b7e1915f6513f243c88f2fb0c72c211

[Keyser Soze]

Tim Roth would be my top choice.

Yes, Flass, you converted me...

[Detective Flass]

Me and you are the two biggest Roth supporters on the boards. And our voices are being heard.

[VenomFang]

Roth will never get cast. He sucks, especially for this iconic character.

http://home.att.ne.jp/orange/FifteenHours/tim4.jpg

The man looks nothing resembling anything iconic or defined.

http://www.digitalhit.com/fest/tiff/1999/6/d6c-0426.jpg

He is an older, weaker looking alan cumming at best. As a nightcrawler, sure. As THE ****ING JOKER? Are you kidding me?

http://www.villainousvamps.com/crispinjoker.jpg

Crispin for Joker

[DorkyFresh]

I could've sworn he said it was Hulme...I know his Two-Face was Denzel Washington, though.
Like I said...even if he DID base his Joker off of Hulme, that Joker looks nothing like Hulme.

[DorkyFresh]

Roth will never get cast. He sucks.
How about you elaborate on your opinion rather than come off as a narrowminded troll?

[Brian2887]

Roth would be fantastic, but I'd prefer him as Riddler. He'd be a great Joker, but I'm still rooting for Jason Lee. I know his name hasn't even come up yet, but watch him in Dogma. Listen to him in Incredibles. Dude can do laughing maniacal villain. He's got the perfect voice, the perfect delivery, and a great laugh.

[VenomFang]

How about you elaborate on your opinion rather than come off as a narrowminded troll?

Deal. Tim Roth looks absolutely white trash empty headed moronic.

http://www.peoples.ru/art/cinema/actor/roth/roth_tim.jpg

Crispin Glover looks imposing, and thoughtful.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/gallery/2003/07/02/ca3473.jpg

It seems like a no brainer to me. Crispin Glover is a character actor. He was the best part of both charlies angels. He owned Back to the Future. Willard is class just because of him. Crispin is a very visual actor, he can perform. He becomes his characters. He visually transforms himself in body and mind. Take a look at George Mcfly

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/lostsite/back/images/gen/50.jpg

And look at Glover as Joker

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

I think he would own the role so hard, you would never be able to replace his performance by any substitute.

http://www.filmstew.com/Users/Features/11216/jv_glover.jpg

He looks like a young, more sinister version of Nicholson's Jack Napier.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman/jack_nicholson/batman7.jpg

Every feature on Crispin Glover is refined to Joker specifications. Look at his nose, brow and chin.

http://www.comictreadmill.com/images/JokerSmile.jpg

[TimDrake64x]

:joker: Roth will never get cast. He sucks, especially for this iconic character.

http://home.att.ne.jp/orange/FifteenHours/tim4.jpg

The man looks nothing resembling anything iconic or defined.

http://www.digitalhit.com/fest/tiff/1999/6/d6c-0426.jpg

He is an older, weaker looking alan cumming at best. As a nightcrawler, sure. As THE ****ING JOKER? Are you kidding me?

http://www.villainousvamps.com/crispinjoker.jpg

Crispin for Joker

are you kidding me, have u ever even read the killing joke, if not do its a good and when u do look at the joker before he becomes the joker and then look at alan cumming...its uncanny (no pun intended) plus alan can carry the role, he is also ign's favorite canidate and mine.

i wouldnt be upset if glover got the role but ive never seen him smile, talk, much less hear him laugh, but he is very creepy and if he has the laugh he would be ok

but alan would be better

[Dark Knight]

i think Alan Cumming would be all wrong as the Joker......i don't want Cumming anywhere near this film! It should be Penn, Glover, Hulme or Depp. Paul Bettany....maaaaaybe......but no at this time.....

[Alonsovich]

I don't know why the hell we're discussing this anyway. Casting always starts once they have a script and director. Right now we don't have a screenwriter or a director... so right now the first worry is to see if Nolan/Goyer come back. Then will be the time to discuss this.

[American_Idiot]

Save Roth for the Riddler. If Jude Law doesn't get the part, Roth would make a fine Riddler. He's got the cocky "I'm smarter than you" attitude down.

[Detective Flass]

Roth will never get cast. He sucks, especially for this iconic character.

http://home.att.ne.jp/orange/FifteenHours/tim4.jpg

The man looks nothing resembling anything iconic or defined.

http://www.digitalhit.com/fest/tiff/1999/6/d6c-0426.jpg

He is an older, weaker looking alan cumming at best. As a nightcrawler, sure. As THE ****ING JOKER? Are you kidding me?

http://www.villainousvamps.com/crispinjoker.jpg

Crispin for Joker

1. Crispin would suck as The Joker, that side by side comparrison is awful.
2. Crispin should play Alberto Falcone
3. Roth has the facial structure and body structure of the Joker
4. Roth can play an iconic character, and a great villain (Planet of the Apes, Rob Roy)
5. Alan Cumming looks exactly like the Killing Joke's Joker, and would make an "Ok" Joker.
6. I don't recall Crispin Glover getting nominated for an Academy Award
7. Roth doesn't suck, HE WAS Nominated for an Academy Award
8. Would play a much more darker Joker then Glover but still would have the energy.
9. Glover sucks.

[Keyser Soze]

Deal. Tim Roth looks absolutely white trash empty headed moronic.

http://www.peoples.ru/art/cinema/actor/roth/roth_tim.jpg

Crispin Glover looks imposing, and thoughtful.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/gallery/2003/07/02/ca3473.jpg

The irony of this is that Tim Roth always comes across as very intelligent, while Crispin Glover comes across as a self-centred buffoon.

I think Tim Roth has one of the best "actor faces" I've seen. Strong, piercing eyes. The hooked nose. Even his bone structure. Tim Burton, in an interview on the "Planet Of The Apes" DVD, goes on a tirade about this topic, talking about how Tim Roth is one of the few actors who can deliver an amazing performance even under lots of prosthetic make-up, because of his expressive face and manic energy.

We talk about this like Tim Roth looks nothing like The Joker. Facialy, Tim Roth looks closer to THe Joker than Crispin Glover. it's only in bodily strucutre that Crispin Glover has a greater similarity. in my opinion, the ONLY thing Tim Roth has going against him in being cast as The Joker is that he's only 5 foot 7.


It seems like a no brainer to me. Crispin Glover is a character actor. He was the best part of both charlies angels. He owned Back to the Future. Willard is class just because of him. Crispin is a very visual actor, he can perform. He becomes his characters. He visually transforms himself in body and mind. Take a look at George Mcfly]

I disagree. Crispin Glover plays creepy, twitchy Crispin Glover in all his movies.

Tim Roth, on the other hand, is an amazing character actor. From "Reservoir Dogs" to "Pulp Fiction", from "Rob Roy" to "Planet Of The Apes", no two performances are hte same. Even his villains are completely different, rahter than him having a set villain persona like James Woods or Christopher Walken.

And, on the subject of "becoming" a character, look at Tim Roth's work with voices. One of his most famous traits is that he is a master of impersonation. He has never used the same accent in two movies. His American accent is slightly different from film to film, deensing on his character. Same for his English accent. In childhood, Roth felt he was being outcast because he was well-spoken. So, he took a week off school, then came back with a perfect Cockney accent, gaining instant acceptance. he can do any voice. So, for people wnating Mark Hamil for Joker, odds aere Tim Roth could exactly replicate Hamill's voice for the movie if he wished.


http://xoomer.virgilio.it/lostsite/back/images/gen/50.jpg

And look at Glover as Joker

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

I think he would own the role so hard, you would never be able to replace his performance by any substitute.

http://www.filmstew.com/Users/Features/11216/jv_glover.jpg

He looks like a young, more sinister version of Nicholson's Jack Napier.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman/jack_nicholson/batman7.jpg

Every feature on Crispin Glover is refined to Joker specifications. Look at his nose, brow and chin.

http://www.comictreadmill.com/images/JokerSmile.jpg

Yes, nice pics. but as I've said, Crispin Glover has looks, and nothing else, as far as I'm concerned. He can look the part all he wants, but the fact remains that he's a mediocre actor at best, and is a Hollywood outcast on top of that, due to his bizarre behaviour. I don't think that's the kind of commodity Nolan will want working on his film.

I'd say Tim Roth is a far superior choice. He's a superior actor, and a bigger name. If only he wasn't so short...

[Castlewood]

I'm definitely going with Tim Roth now.

http://homepage.mac.com/jubei1/manga/killjoke.jpg

[The Kid]

I love you completely lovely dumbbells who suggest actors based on their looks alone and not what they'd actually accomplish with the role at all.

any actor they choose won't even look like themselves under all that joker make-up

glover looks, sounds like, and is a bi+ch you pancakes

[DorkyFresh]

Deal. Tim Roth looks absolutely white trash empty headed moronic.
http://www.peoples.ru/art/cinema/actor/roth/roth_tim.jpg
I like how you pick a picture that makes Tim Roth look absolutely nothing like the Joker while...
Crispin Glover looks imposing, and thoughtful.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/gallery/2003/07/02/ca3473.jpg
...you pick a picture of Glover that looks just like the Joker. But looks aren't the most important think when it comes to the Joker. You think Jack Nicolson looks like he jumped right out of the pages of Batman? I don't think so...besides......Glover does NOT look imposing and thoughtful in that picture, he looks ridiculous and laughable. Imposing and thoughtful...why? Because he's holding a sword and doing the stereotypical kung fu pose?

It seems like a no brainer to me. Crispin Glover is a character actor. He was the best part of both charlies angels. He owned Back to the Future. Willard is class just because of him. Crispin is a very visual actor, he can perform. He becomes his characters. He visually transforms himself in body and mind. Take a look at George Mcfly
Best part of both Charlie's Angels? Who are you trying to fool? You're the only one making that claim. Owned in Back to the Future??? I don't even remember the dude in the movie! Willard? From what I've seen, he's playing the same character he played in Charlie's Angels except with rats and speaking parts.

Every feature on Crispin Glover is refined to Joker specifications. Look at his nose, brow and chin.

http://www.comictreadmill.com/images/JokerSmile.jpg
There are at least 10 other actors that have that fall under the Joker's visual description and a few out of those 10 can act better than Crispin. Just because Crispin looks like the Joker and acts like a wacko in every movie he plays doesn't mean he's the best person to play the Joker. Actually....casting him as the Joker is just typecasting him and could hurt the believability to the general audience since a buttload of the general audience has seen Charlie's Angels they'll probably be thinking "hey....that's the guy from Charlie's Angels!"

On the other hand....





...the ONLY good argument against Tim Roth is his height, which can be fixed with camera trickery. So... :p

[American_Idiot]

Tim Roth

Tim Roth is a good actor and could pull off the Joker, but I'd rather see him as the Riddler, that is, if Law doesn't get the role. Watch Roth in Rob Roy and the Musketeer...very Nygma-like personality.

Candidates for the Riddler :

1. Jude Law - Looks almost identical to modern day comic book Riddler and has the acting chops to do it.
2. Tim Roth - Resembles certain versions of the Riddler (TAS), is a good actor, and has played characters similar to the Riddler.
3. Edward Norton - Another great actor, also resembles certain versions of the Riddler; just think of his character in the Italian Job.

Final thought

It's a toss up between these three actors for the role of the Riddler. I would be happy if any one of them got it. As for the Joker...Jason Lee is perfect in every way for that part. Vincent Cassel is not a bad choice either.

[TimDrake64x]

Tim Roth

Tim Roth is a good actor and could pull off the Joker, but I'd rather see him as the Riddler, that is, if Law doesn't get the role. Watch Roth in Rob Roy and the Musketeer...very Nygma-like personality.

Candidates for the Riddler :

1. Jude Law - Looks almost identical to modern day comic book Riddler and has the acting chops to do it.
2. Tim Roth - Resembles certain versions of the Riddler (TAS), is a good actor, and has played characters similar to the Riddler.
3. Edward Norton - Another great actor, also resembles certain versions of the Riddler; just think of his character in the Italian Job.

Final thought

It's a toss up between these three actors for the role of the Riddler. I would be happy if any one of them got it. As for the Joker...Jason Lee is perfect in every way for that part. Vincent Cassel is not a bad choice either.

when i 1st started reading this i thought i was in the wrong thread, lets not postactors for other villians in the joker threadm there are places to do that

[VenomFang]

I like how you pick a picture that makes Tim Roth look absolutely nothing like the Joker while...

...you pick a picture of Glover that looks just like the Joker. But looks aren't the most important think when it comes to the Joker. You think Jack Nicolson looks like he jumped right out of the pages of Batman? I don't think so...besides......Glover does NOT look imposing and thoughtful in that picture, he looks ridiculous and laughable. Imposing and thoughtful...why? Because he's holding a sword and doing the stereotypical kung fu pose?


Best part of both Charlie's Angels? Who are you trying to fool? You're the only one making that claim. Owned in Back to the Future??? I don't even remember the dude in the movie! Willard? From what I've seen, he's playing the same character he played in Charlie's Angels except with rats and speaking parts.


There are at least 10 other actors that have that fall under the Joker's visual description and a few out of those 10 can act better than Crispin. Just because Crispin looks like the Joker and acts like a wacko in every movie he plays doesn't mean he's the best person to play the Joker. Actually....casting him as the Joker is just typecasting him and could hurt the believability to the general audience since a buttload of the general audience has seen Charlie's Angels they'll probably be thinking "hey....that's the guy from Charlie's Angels!"

On the other hand....





...the ONLY good argument against Tim Roth is his height, which can be fixed with camera trickery. So... :p

Firstly, you clearly admit early on that I picked a picture of Glover that looks 'just like the joker.' The point is, he does look like the Joker, infact, no one in the world looks more like the joker than him.

Secondly, I challenge you to find a picture of Tim Roth that looks anything resembling the Joker.

For someone who can't remember George Mcfly and hasn't seem Willard, you sure are quick to comment on Glover's acting range. Go watch the films, then you may comment.

[American_Idiot]

when i 1st started reading this i thought i was in the wrong thread, lets not postactors for other villians in the joker threadm there are places to do that

It's a combination of different thoughts. To sum it up for you; Tim Roth would make a good Joker, but he would be perfect as the Riddler (as would Law & Norton). Jason Lee IS the Joker. Better?

[TimDrake64x]

listen venom 1st respect ur elders (# of posts) and back off. 2nd ya glover looks alot like a version of the joker but his acting skills are questionable to say the least. and its unfair to say he looks more like the joker than anyone in the world. truthfully i think alan cumming looks more like the joker than gover and at least ive seen alan smile

[Alonsovich]

I'm soooo going to laugh when Nolan casts someone that nobody has thought about here... which is EXACTLY what happened with Ra's Al Ghul, Gordon, Crane and Ducard in BB... :)

[TimDrake64x]

lol, oh well

[VenomFang]

http://www.villainousvamps.com/crispinjoker.jpg

[TimDrake64x]

venom stop we've all seen the picture just cause uve posted it again isnt going to chang eour minds, in fact for me it almost makes me not want him to be joker more.

[DDRSkata]

I just want to say post counts don't matter. If anything, join date is more important, and even that doesn't matter. Citing post counts as a measure of superiority or inferiority just makes you look like an idiot.

[P. Cushing]

I'm soooo going to laugh when Nolan casts someone that nobody has thought about here... which is EXACTLY what happened with Ra's Al Ghul and Ducard in BB... :)
Well, if you've seen the film, The Guard thought about it yeaaaaaaaaaaars ago.

[aquiles]

I don't know why the hell we're discussing this anyway. Casting always starts once they have a script and director. Right now we don't have a screenwriter or a director... so right now the first worry is to see if Nolan/Goyer come back. Then will be the time to discuss this.
right,we need nolan and goyer first.then you can start

[TheBat812]

Me and you are the two biggest Roth supporters on the boards. And our voices are being heard.
yea, to all of our annoyance. shut up already, we get it, you LOVE ROTH.

[VenomFang]

Roth sucks. Planet of the Apes sucked cause Thade was so ugly and over the top.

[bbb]

David Bowie, Dammit

[Riven]

Roth sucks. Planet of the Apes sucked cause Thade was so ugly and over the top.
He's an evil monkey... how do you suppose he should look? "pretty"?

There were a lot of things wrong with PotA, but Tim Roth wasn't one of them. He did an outstanding job.

[gothamsterror]

Julian McMahon for Joker I reckon... I got a picture and imagined him as Joker and it looks pretty good, also he's got a wicked smile...

[Carmine Falcone]

Dr Doom? Hell no!

[Detective Flass]

He's an evil monkey... how do you suppose he should look? "pretty"?

There were a lot of things wrong with PotA, but Tim Roth wasn't one of them. He did an outstanding job.

You are correct sir!

[Detective Flass]

The irony of this is that Tim Roth always comes across as very intelligent, while Crispin Glover comes across as a self-centred buffoon.

I think Tim Roth has one of the best "actor faces" I've seen. Strong, piercing eyes. The hooked nose. Even his bone structure. Tim Burton, in an interview on the "Planet Of The Apes" DVD, goes on a tirade about this topic, talking about how Tim Roth is one of the few actors who can deliver an amazing performance even under lots of prosthetic make-up, because of his expressive face and manic energy.

We talk about this like Tim Roth looks nothing like The Joker. Facialy, Tim Roth looks closer to THe Joker than Crispin Glover. it's only in bodily strucutre that Crispin Glover has a greater similarity. in my opinion, the ONLY thing Tim Roth has going against him in being cast as The Joker is that he's only 5 foot 7.



I disagree. Crispin Glover plays creepy, twitchy Crispin Glover in all his movies.

Tim Roth, on the other hand, is an amazing character actor. From "Reservoir Dogs" to "Pulp Fiction", from "Rob Roy" to "Planet Of The Apes", no two performances are hte same. Even his villains are completely different, rahter than him having a set villain persona like James Woods or Christopher Walken.

And, on the subject of "becoming" a character, look at Tim Roth's work with voices. One of his most famous traits is that he is a master of impersonation. He has never used the same accent in two movies. His American accent is slightly different from film to film, deensing on his character. Same for his English accent. In childhood, Roth felt he was being outcast because he was well-spoken. So, he took a week off school, then came back with a perfect Cockney accent, gaining instant acceptance. he can do any voice. So, for people wnating Mark Hamil for Joker, odds aere Tim Roth could exactly replicate Hamill's voice for the movie if he wished.



Yes, nice pics. but as I've said, Crispin Glover has looks, and nothing else, as far as I'm concerned. He can look the part all he wants, but the fact remains that he's a mediocre actor at best, and is a Hollywood outcast on top of that, due to his bizarre behaviour. I don't think that's the kind of commodity Nolan will want working on his film.

I'd say Tim Roth is a far superior choice. He's a superior actor, and a bigger name. If only he wasn't so short...

Man you're a great debater. :joker:

I have to go look at my Planet of the Apes DVD.

[TheBatSignal]

The irony of this is that Tim Roth always comes across as very intelligent, while Crispin Glover comes across as a self-centred buffoon.

I think Tim Roth has one of the best "actor faces" I've seen. Strong, piercing eyes. The hooked nose. Even his bone structure. Tim Burton, in an interview on the "Planet Of The Apes" DVD, goes on a tirade about this topic, talking about how Tim Roth is one of the few actors who can deliver an amazing performance even under lots of prosthetic make-up, because of his expressive face and manic energy.

We talk about this like Tim Roth looks nothing like The Joker. Facialy, Tim Roth looks closer to THe Joker than Crispin Glover. it's only in bodily strucutre that Crispin Glover has a greater similarity. in my opinion, the ONLY thing Tim Roth has going against him in being cast as The Joker is that he's only 5 foot 7.



I disagree. Crispin Glover plays creepy, twitchy Crispin Glover in all his movies.

Tim Roth, on the other hand, is an amazing character actor. From "Reservoir Dogs" to "Pulp Fiction", from "Rob Roy" to "Planet Of The Apes", no two performances are hte same. Even his villains are completely different, rahter than him having a set villain persona like James Woods or Christopher Walken.

And, on the subject of "becoming" a character, look at Tim Roth's work with voices. One of his most famous traits is that he is a master of impersonation. He has never used the same accent in two movies. His American accent is slightly different from film to film, deensing on his character. Same for his English accent. In childhood, Roth felt he was being outcast because he was well-spoken. So, he took a week off school, then came back with a perfect Cockney accent, gaining instant acceptance. he can do any voice. So, for people wnating Mark Hamil for Joker, odds aere Tim Roth could exactly replicate Hamill's voice for the movie if he wished.



Yes, nice pics. but as I've said, Crispin Glover has looks, and nothing else, as far as I'm concerned. He can look the part all he wants, but the fact remains that he's a mediocre actor at best, and is a Hollywood outcast on top of that, due to his bizarre behaviour. I don't think that's the kind of commodity Nolan will want working on his film.

I'd say Tim Roth is a far superior choice. He's a superior actor, and a bigger name. If only he wasn't so short...

After reading that...My new Joker list-

1-Tim Roth
2-Cripsin Glover
3-Sean Penn

[Spidey-Bat]

Roth sucks. Planet of the Apes sucked cause Thade was so ugly and over the top.

Planet of the Apes did suck, but only because it was insanely bizzare.

[LJF]

I'm still adement that Johnny Depp would produce the finest performance as the Joker. At the moment he seems to camoflouge into any role he takes on.

[Guyper1]

Forget Depp already.

He would never star in a Batman film unless it's being directed by Tim Burton again

[Crusher]

Crispin Glover hands down!


I thought Willard was a sucky flick in my opinion, but he did pull off the wierd, dark, psychotic role well.

Depp? No, to 1990's.. We need a new Joker, a darker more sinicle joker, with a splash of humor, they finally got Batman right. Bale was the perfect cast!


Can't wait to see the new Bat Cave >=)

[SatanBurger]

Crispin Glover's voice is just too squeaky. I've never seen him in a role where he didn't look nervous or fidgety. The Joker's like some insane gameshow host. Do you really think Crispin could pull it off?

Personally, I think whoever suggested Tim Roth is a genius. I was leaning toward Paul Bettany, but I think that Roth takes the cake.

Well, aside fromt he whole height problem, that is...

[BizarroMe1001]

The Joker's like some insane gameshow host.

Nicely put. That perfectly explains the joker. :joker:

[TimDrake64x]

i duno i still truely believe that alan cumming is the best pick, he can act, we all know that no matter what rolse hes taken, and hes perfect for tkj joker (its uncanny)

[American_Idiot]

There were a lot of things wrong with PotA, but Tim Roth wasn't one of them. He did an outstanding job.

Very true.

[American_Idiot]

I just want to say post counts don't matter. If anything, join date is more important, and even that doesn't matter. Citing post counts as a measure of superiority or inferiority just makes you look like an idiot.

Thank you! So true.

[Keyser Soze]

Firstly, you clearly admit early on that I picked a picture of Glover that looks 'just like the joker.' The point is, he does look like the Joker, infact, no one in the world looks more like the joker than him.

Secondly, I challenge you to find a picture of Tim Roth that looks anything resembling the Joker.

For someone who can't remember George Mcfly and hasn't seem Willard, you sure are quick to comment on Glover's acting range. Go watch the films, then you may comment.

I like how you completely ignore the points I made, and instead focus on answering this persons's points.

Oh, and here's an answer to your little challenge:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/casketmouth/joker.jpg

[Weezer]

Firstly, you clearly admit early on that I picked a picture of Glover that looks 'just like the joker.' The point is, he does look like the Joker, infact, no one in the world looks more like the joker than him.

That's such a broad claim, you have no idea....

[TimDrake64x]

That's such a broad claim, you have no idea....

exactly (and weezer rocks!!!)

[DDRSkata]

exactly (and weezer rocks!!!)

Their new album sucks, though.

[RakuMon]

I think a purple suit is something you can't touch...but I'd like to see a variation. He's always wearing straight purple with green & orange, maybe a bit of light blue. Nicholson's wore plaid, a fashion moment of the era. I'd be more interested in a fitted suit that was maybe black with purple pinstripes, or at least purple with black pinstripes. If the suit is all purple, which I think would be the way to go, as easily explained by the suit losing color dye when he falls in the vat of acid, I think a different color combo may work better, but I'm no fashion major. I just think he wouldn't wear orange and green silk. Nolan's Joker will probably be more realistic than that, don't you think?

How about this for a kind of suit Joker would wear (modelled by Mr. J candidate Paul Bettany no less!)
http://www.paulbettany.net/mates/main.jpg

[Crusher]

Nicholson did one of the most memorable Jokers of all time, perfect look, perfect one-liners, just perfect. Its going to be hard to replace that. I just hope they go alot darker, I mean the "PG-13" now was an "R" back then, so there is a lot more they can do with a darker theme now a days.

[DDRSkata]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/DDRSkata/bettanyconnely.jpg

[VenomFang]

Nicholson did one of the most memorable Jokers of all time, perfect look, perfect one-liners, just perfect. Its going to be hard to replace that. I just hope they go alot darker, I mean the "PG-13" now was an "R" back then, so there is a lot more they can do with a darker theme now a days.

Nicholson's Joker ruined the character, which is why we haven't seen Joker since. Mark Hamill literally is the only person in existence that has ever brought any credibility to the role. Cesar Romero gets credit for nearly nailing the laugh, which Hamill later mastered. The voice of the Joker is a very iconic, set-in-stone kind of deal now, to deviate from it too far would seriously hurt the intentions and integrity of the next Joker.

Both Batman, and Gordon were both successfully translated to the screen in Batman Begins, without deviating from the animated series or the comic books. Joker should be equally authentic, otherwise it simply won't be the indisputable Joker. Just as Bale is Batman (to me and many others), Crispin Glover will be the Joker.

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

Joker isn't meant to be scary, or freakish. Tim Roth sure can pull off an angry monkey, but Joker is an elegant, beautiful clown prince, who wants to be your best friend, then gas you. His entire shtick, his 'super power' if you will, is Joker is the most charming, witty, fun person to be around in the entire world, and he is equally homicidal. Jack Nicholson's Joker was so obviously an antogonist, without any moments of humanity, he became a 'evil for the sake of being evil' kind of character. No motivation, and none of the allegory or metaphor behind the Batman-Joker duel.

Batman uses scare tactics to intimidate his foes methodically with purpose. Joker uses bright colors and gags to lower your gaurd before he kills you and everyone else. Batman is order, Joker is Chaos. Burton tried to draw parallels between Batman and Joker, and that is wrong. They aren't of the same coin, they are literally opposites. Tim Roth doesn't seem like an opposite of Christian Bale, nor does he strike me as someone who could pass as the lanky, ex-comedian Joker. Crispin Glover however, was made for this role. Some complain he hasn't the voice, well I argue neither did Luke Skywalker, until it turned out he did.

[paranoidboy]

http://images.faceparty.com/public/1216/images/dondaboss2001_13801265.jpg

[Crusher]

How bout Bruce Campell as joker.. haha that wouldbe great!

[Weezer]

Their new album sucks, though.

Yes, yes it did.

[P. Cushing]

MY TOP TEN CHOICES
1. Willem Dafoe
2. Tim Roth
3. Hugo Weaving
4. Johnny Depp
5. Mark Hammill

[Crusher]

MY TOP TEN CHOICES
1. Willem Dafoe
2. Tim Roth
3. Hugo Weaving
4. Johnny Depp
5. Mark Hammill



It would be wierd crossing Willem in to the Batman universe knowing he was Green Goblin.

[Timstuff]

Not to mention that 10 isn't five.

And NO WILLIAM DAFOE DANGIT! :mad:

[TimDrake64x]

true but the blue....good lord the blue

[Keyser Soze]

Nicholson's Joker ruined the character, which is why we haven't seen Joker since. Mark Hamill literally is the only person in existence that has ever brought any credibility to the role. Cesar Romero gets credit for nearly nailing the laugh, which Hamill later mastered. The voice of the Joker is a very iconic, set-in-stone kind of deal now, to deviate from it too far would seriously hurt the intentions and integrity of the next Joker.

This is a rather foolish comment. Jack Nicholson's Joker is generally considered, even outwith the comic book fan community, to be one of the greatest movie villains of all time. The Joker was simply amazing in that film, and is still a crowd-pleaser to the general audience. This isn't Arnold Schwarzenegger's Mr Freeze we're talking about. This is a vilain who many rank alongside the elite of movie villainy, such as Darth Vader and Hannibal Lecter.

The only problem with the portrayal was that it wasn't faithful to the comic. So, I want to see a Joker that's a dark, twisted killer, rather than the charismatic crime boss of Tim Burton's "Batman". But don't get me wrong - I absolutely love Jack's Joker. He's a great movie villain, one of the best, but I just want to see a different interpretation.


Both Batman, and Gordon were both successfully translated to the screen in Batman Begins, without deviating from the animated series or the comic books. Joker should be equally authentic, otherwise it simply won't be the indisputable Joker. Just as Bale is Batman (to me and many others), Crispin Glover will be the Joker.

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg


You're taking apart your own argument here. yes, one of the great strengths of "Batman Begins" was casting. Christian Bale and Gary Oldman are phenomenal actors, and they were amazing as Batman and Gordon respectively. So therfore, in order to continue the trend, we should cast a great actor as The Joker. Someone like Tim Roth.

Casting Crispin Glover would only have been consistent if they had cast the guy who played Colonel Sanders in the KFC commercials as Gordon, because he looks exactly like the cartoon version. But that's not the case. Gary Oldman does not look like Gordon - he had to change his appearance to look that way. As you said, great actors have been cast in major roles. So why break the pattern to cast Glover?


Joker isn't meant to be scary, or freakish. Tim Roth sure can pull off an angry monkey, but Joker is an elegant, beautiful clown prince, who wants to be your best friend, then gas you. His entire shtick, his 'super power' if you will, is Joker is the most charming, witty, fun person to be around in the entire world, and he is equally homicidal. Jack Nicholson's Joker was so obviously an antogonist, without any moments of humanity, he became a 'evil for the sake of being evil' kind of character. No motivation, and none of the allegory or metaphor behind the Batman-Joker duel.

The Joker is a frightening character. I certainly think so anyway. And so does Christian Bale - in an interview with MTV he stated he wanted The Joker to be darker and more frightening than any interpretation of him we've ever seen. But this is a personal opinion thing. So you're interpretation of The Joker from the comics is equally valid, as you have evidence to support your perspective, just as I have evidecne to back up mine.

But one thing I can pick up on is how selective you are in the examples of Tim Roth you give. "Planet Of The Apes"? Yes, he was savage and animalistic, a requirement for playing a twisted ape, I'd say. Nothing charming and elegant about that. But then again, what is exactly "beautiful" about a twitchy, greasy freak who lets rats crawl over him anyway? Personally, I say the whole point is moot. I don't see him as a beautiful prince, I see him as a nightmarish vaudeville monstrosity.

But I'm straying form my point. You want to see charming/ Watch Tim Roth's portrayal of the truly foul Archibald Cunningham in "Rob Roy". He enters the scene, the picture of elegance. Well dressed, well spoken, the perfect gentleman. He is charming and elegant, and because of this soon attracts the hatred of a brutish thug. This leads into a challenge to a duel. Cunningham takes a theatrical bow, acting the image of class, lulling the brute into a false sense of security. The thug approaches, and with one flash, Cunningham's sword is out and, moving with the reflexes of a cobra, he's taken hte person out with one well-placed blow. For one second, we see the cold, vicious killer he really is. But then, the smile returns, and he takes another bow...


Batman uses scare tactics to intimidate his foes methodically with purpose. Joker uses bright colors and gags to lower your gaurd before he kills you and everyone else. Batman is order, Joker is Chaos. Burton tried to draw parallels between Batman and Joker, and that is wrong. They aren't of the same coin, they are literally opposites. Tim Roth doesn't seem like an opposite of Christian Bale, nor does he strike me as someone who could pass as the lanky, ex-comedian Joker. Crispin Glover however, was made for this role. Some complain he hasn't the voice, well I argue neither did Luke Skywalker, until it turned out he did.

Yes, this is all very interesting. But how does it relate to Crispin Glover being appropriate for the part. In fact, when you so excellently describe the true nature of The Joker, it reminds me of how great he is, and of how unworthy Crispin Glover is to play him.

Yes, Tim Roth probably couldn't portray a "lanky ex-comedian". He could probably pull off the ex-comedian part, but since he's short, being lanky would be tough. But when asked to describe The Joker in one sentence, who in their right mind would say "He's a lanky ex-comedian." Is that the most important element of his character? No, his insanity and his theatricality are far more important. And TIm Roth, being a FAR superior actor to Crispin Glover, can pull off both far better.

You say (correctly) that Crispin Glover doesn't have the voice. And as you say, MAYBE he could be able to change his vocie completely and give a great Joker voice. But maybe Will Ferrell could give a great Joker voice. maybe Andy Dick could give a great Joker voice. Maybe I could give a great Joker voice.

Yes, we all have the potential to give a great vocal performance as THe Joker, but Tim Roth has a far greater chance. Unlike Glover, he is well known for his great vocal talents. In the post you ignored, I talked a lot about this, but in brief, he is known for being able to do many different accents, British, American, and others. He never uses the same accent in two films.

Well, that's me about done. And you never said anything about the Tim Roth pic I found. I'd say he has the face for The Joker...

[FCEEVIPER]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1715&stc=1
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1716&stc=1


I kid, I kid.

[Dark Knight]

when i keep thinking a darker version of Joker.....the only actor that i would have full confidence in to bring a different level to the role would be Sean Penn. He would be wicked as Joker....and he is a heckuva actor!

[Spidey-Bat]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1715&stc=1
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1716&stc=1


I kid, I kid.

make a Mad Hatter one now :D

(he has brain washed a girl and fits Hatter physically.)

[my0pic_spidey]

This is a rather foolish comment. Jack Nicholson's Joker is generally considered, even outwith the comic book fan community, to be one of the greatest movie villains of all time. The Joker was simply amazing in that film, and is still a crowd-pleaser to the general audience. This isn't Arnold Schwarzenegger's Mr Freeze we're talking about. This is a vilain who many rank alongside the elite of movie villainy, such as Darth Vader and Hannibal Lecter.

The only problem with the portrayal was that it wasn't faithful to the comic. So, I want to see a Joker that's a dark, twisted killer, rather than the charismatic crime boss of Tim Burton's "Batman". But don't get me wrong - I absolutely love Jack's Joker. He's a great movie villain, one of the best, but I just want to see a different interpretation.



You're taking apart your own argument here. yes, one of the great strengths of "Batman Begins" was casting. Christian Bale and Gary Oldman are phenomenal actors, and they were amazing as Batman and Gordon respectively. So therfore, in order to continue the trend, we should cast a great actor as The Joker. Someone like Tim Roth.

Casting Crispin Glover would only have been consistent if they had cast the guy who played Colonel Sanders in the KFC commercials as Gordon, because he looks exactly like the cartoon version. But that's not the case. Gary Oldman does not look like Gordon - he had to change his appearance to look that way. As you said, great actors have been cast in major roles. So why break the pattern to cast Glover?



The Joker is a frightening character. I certainly think so anyway. And so does Christian Bale - in an interview with MTV he stated he wanted The Joker to be darker and more frightening than any interpretation of him we've ever seen. But this is a personal opinion thing. So you're interpretation of The Joker from the comics is equally valid, as you have evidence to support your perspective, just as I have evidecne to back up mine.

But one thing I can pick up on is how selective you are in the examples of Tim Roth you give. "Planet Of The Apes"? Yes, he was savage and animalistic, a requirement for playing a twisted ape, I'd say. Nothing charming and elegant about that. But then again, what is exactly "beautiful" about a twitchy, greasy freak who lets rats crawl over him anyway? Personally, I say the whole point is moot. I don't see him as a beautiful prince, I see him as a nightmarish vaudeville monstrosity.

But I'm straying form my point. You want to see charming/ Watch Tim Roth's portrayal of the truly foul Archibald Cunningham in "Rob Roy". He enters the scene, the picture of elegance. Well dressed, well spoken, the perfect gentleman. He is charming and elegant, and because of this soon attracts the hatred of a brutish thug. This leads into a challenge to a duel. Cunningham takes a theatrical bow, acting the image of class, lulling the brute into a false sense of security. The thug approaches, and with one flash, Cunningham's sword is out and, moving with the reflexes of a cobra, he's taken hte person out with one well-placed blow. For one second, we see the cold, vicious killer he really is. But then, the smile returns, and he takes another bow...



Yes, this is all very interesting. But how does it relate to Crispin Glover being appropriate for the part. In fact, when you so excellently describe the true nature of The Joker, it reminds me of how great he is, and of how unworthy Crispin Glover is to play him.

Yes, Tim Roth probably couldn't portray a "lanky ex-comedian". He could probably pull off the ex-comedian part, but since he's short, being lanky would be tough. But when asked to describe The Joker in one sentence, who in their right mind would say "He's a lanky ex-comedian." Is that the most important element of his character? No, his insanity and his theatricality are far more important. And TIm Roth, being a FAR superior actor to Crispin Glover, can pull off both far better.

You say (correctly) that Crispin Glover doesn't have the voice. And as you say, MAYBE he could be able to change his vocie completely and give a great Joker voice. But maybe Will Ferrell could give a great Joker voice. maybe Andy Dick could give a great Joker voice. Maybe I could give a great Joker voice.

Yes, we all have the potential to give a great vocal performance as THe Joker, but Tim Roth has a far greater chance. Unlike Glover, he is well known for his great vocal talents. In the post you ignored, I talked a lot about this, but in brief, he is known for being able to do many different accents, British, American, and others. He never uses the same accent in two films.

Well, that's me about done. And you never said anything about the Tim Roth pic I found. I'd say he has the face for The Joker...

It all boils down to the looks.not the voice.like u said everyone is capable of mimicking a joker vocal does tim roth look like a joker to you? having the vocals not the looks is pointless,imo crispin is well qualified for the role

[SatanBurger]

Just caught the tail-end of Willard on TV, and I can honestly say, if Crispin is cast as the Joker the character will fall flat. Honesly, can he even play a character that's not pathetic and nerdy? Is he even capable? His voice, his mannerisms, do not fit the stylings of an over the top, charismatic narcisist. I don't think any amount of manipulation will change that fact.

Nolan needs an actor, not a face.

[VenomFang]

"The Joker is a frightening character. I certainly think so anyway. And so does Christian Bale - in an interview with MTV he stated he wanted The Joker to be darker and more frightening than any interpretation of him we've ever seen."

And that's wrong. Batman is frightening, we've seen characters being scary. Joker is the opposite, he is charming and witty, so much so that he is disarming you with his gags and jokes as to then more easily kill you. Where as Batman is super serious, Joker simply laughs at Batman's face, making Joker almost seem far more 'with it' than our caped crusader, for reckognizing the rediculousness of Batman, and life itself.

Crispin Glover would absolute shine in this role, his face alone makes him stand out from lifes normal set of faces. He looks like the Joker, quite frankly. There is no other way to describe him.

http://www.villainousvamps.com/crispinjoker.jpg

[FCEEVIPER]

I don't know if this has been posted by the dude himself or by some one else but, this guys quest for Sean Penn as Joker is crazy. Make sure to check out the Videos on his site.

http://seanthejoker.com/

[The Kid]

oh gosh.... now that's just silly.

[The Kid]

http://www.screensavershot.com/persons2/ewan.jpg OBI WAN FULKING KENOBI


CASE CLOSED

[Katsuro]

i'm really sick of people saying that Crispin Glover should be The Joker. Sure he looks like the character, but there is so much more to playing a role than that. An actor should be able to... um... what's that word? oh yeah, ACT! like the character he's portraying, not just have a long face.

If i were to cast the Joker, i would go with either Tim Roth, Paul Bettany, Vincent Cassel, or.. HAMMIL DAMNIT!!!

[Triad]

Ever see the movie "The River's Edge"? Glover CAN act...and quite frankly, is just plain creepy, if you ask me.

[TheScarecrow]

Vincent Gallo was born for the role!

[BizarroMe1001]

"The Joker is a frightening character. I certainly think so anyway. And so does Christian Bale - in an interview with MTV he stated he wanted The Joker to be darker and more frightening than any interpretation of him we've ever seen."

And that's wrong. Batman is frightening, we've seen characters being scary. Joker is the opposite, he is charming and witty, so much so that he is disarming you with his gags and jokes as to then more easily kill you. Where as Batman is super serious, Joker simply laughs at Batman's face, making Joker almost seem far more 'with it' than our caped crusader, for reckognizing the rediculousness of Batman, and life itself.

Crispin Glover would absolute shine in this role, his face alone makes him stand out from lifes normal set of faces. He looks like the Joker, quite frankly. There is no other way to describe him.

http://www.villainousvamps.com/crispinjoker.jpg

I understand how you keep wanting to get your point across VenomFang, but its getting increasingly annoying how you have to continue to repost that same comparrisson pictures with everything you say.

[VenomFang]

I understand how you keep wanting to get your point across VenomFang, but its getting increasingly annoying how you have to continue to repost that same comparrisson pictures with everything you say.

And every time I do, you chime in with something unconstructive. Thanks.

[TheBatSignal]

Whoever plays the Joker,all I want is for them to do what Ceaser Romero did in the Batman Movie.

Throw a vase at Batman's head.I laugh so hard everytime I watch that.

[StrainedEyes]

Robert Englund for Joker! :joker:

http://www.renderosity.com/photos/ArtistArticle12056.jpg

[TimDrake64x]

is that freddy crugar guy?

[iceboy]

yes

[S_H_F_4839]

ten years ago maybe, I suggested the other day that he should have played him as opposed to nicholson, because i caught him in the phantom of the opera, and now I think he would have made a better joker, but now I think he is too old.

[The Nose Goblin]

http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/movie/21_grams/03.jpeg

You know there more I think about it, the more I could see him as the Joker.


Yeah I know he's 5'9" and he's Sean Penn, but....if Nolan is truly interested in him (as was rumored) then who am I to say...

[Attikus]

Joaquin Pheonix as Joker. It's not a bad choice people.

Attikus

[Detective Flass]

Tim Roth was born to play Joker. :joker:

[JokerPsycho88]

I've been thinking a lot about Sean Penn playing The Joker...at first I thought it was an OK choice. Only an OK choice in my mind because of his age. After lots of consideration of Penn, it poped into my head...he would suck as Joker. Why would he suck? Well, it is very simple...Sean Penn is an *******. Sure, he is a good actor and I am baseing his ******* label because of his real life, not his movie career BUT, he is such an *******, I cannot over look it. I then pictured him in Joker attire, going around Gotham and causing havoc and then going to fight the Bat, and I thought, 'Ah man, Sean Penn sucks real bad, I can’t see him doing this at all.' Bottom line, Sean Penn should not play The Joker because, he is old and is a REALLY gigantic douche bag.

Mark Hamil...seeing Mark Hamil as The Joker in the sequel would be incredibly entertaining and so badass. Sure, he's older than Penn, who I talked about above, but Hamil has that Joker voice that nobody can beat. It would be cool, but I don't see this happening.

Adrian Brody...**** Adrian Brody.

Jason Lee, Benicio Del Toro, Tim Roth...these three all fall under the same category, in my mind. These are the guys who could look it, speak it, and do it really good but just have a certain unknown thing that makes me think they would have some problem. I could be wrong with that; anyone of them could be excellent in the role and would make me happy.

My two top choices to play The Joker are, Jude Law and Crispin Glover. They fall into two different categories. Glover is the creepy guy whose smile freaks you out a bit; he is the guy who looks like Nicholson. His voice is somewhat lame and weak to play The Joker, but he is an actor for christ’s sake, he can work on it. Law is the animated tv show like Joker. People would like to see him in as The Riddler and would fit very nicely in the role, but I don't think people show pass up on Law being The Joker. :joker:

[TimDrake64x]

I've been thinking a lot about Sean Penn playing The Joker...at first I thought it was an OK choice. Only an OK choice in my mind because of his age. After lots of consideration of Penn, it poped into my head...he would suck as Joker. Why would he suck? Well, it is very simple...Sean Penn is an *******. Sure, he is a good actor and I am baseing his ******* label because of his real life, not his movie career BUT, he is such an *******, I cannot over look it. I then pictured him in Joker attire, going around Gotham and causing havoc and then going to fight the Bat, and I thought, 'Ah man, Sean Penn sucks real bad, I can’t see him doing this at all.' Bottom line, Sean Penn should not play The Joker because, he is old and is a REALLY gigantic douche bag.

Mark Hamil...seeing Mark Hamil as The Joker in the sequel would be incredibly entertaining and so badass. Sure, he's older than Penn, who I talked about above, but Hamil has that Joker voice that nobody can beat. It would be cool, but I don't see this happening.

Adrian Brody...**** Adrian Brody.

Jason Lee, Benicio Del Toro, Tim Roth...these three all fall under the same category, in my mind. These are the guys who could look it, speak it, and do it really good but just have a certain unknown thing that makes me think they would have some problem. I could be wrong with that; anyone of them could be excellent in the role and would make me happy.

My two top choices to play The Joker are, Jude Law and Crispin Glover. They fall into two different categories. Glover is the creepy guy whose smile freaks you out a bit; he is the guy who looks like Nicholson. His voice is somewhat lame and weak to play The Joker, but he is an actor for christ’s sake, he can work on it. Law is the animated tv show like Joker. People would like to see him in as The Riddler and would fit very nicely in the role, but I don't think people show pass up on Law being The Joker. :joker:

wow this guy really got it right. the only thing i would change is add alan cumming to the last catagorie

[Matis17]

Robert Englund for Joker! :joker:

http://www.renderosity.com/photos/ArtistArticle12056.jpgIt would kick ass if he wasn't so over the hill.

[etrigan69]

I hate to be one of those obnoxious asses that keeps posting his same manip over and over, but sheesh! I didn't even get one comment of "Yeah, He would be great " or a "Hell no" He sucks, so I'm going to try it again.

Edward Norton

6'1 :joker:

Thin :joker:

Not too old or young :joker:

Great actor :joker:

I think he would be brilliant. :joker:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/etrigan69/jokernortoncopy.jpg

[TimDrake64x]

good idea i guess but really REALLY bad manip.

i use to be the main supporter of alan cumming as the joker on these boards, but then i watched road to perditon and saw jude law's performance in it. wow. anyone who thinks he cant do the joker go see that movie, hes perfect, his madness in that movie is just incredibly well controlled, so imagine what it could be if he was allowed to show how crazy he can be...perfect, hes the perfect guy to replace jack nicholson as the joker. jude

[etrigan69]

good idea i guess but really REALLY bad manip.


That's the absolute first time I've heard anyone call it a bad manip. I would like to hear why you think that. Thank you in advance.

[BruceWayne]

I don't know if anyone has seen this, but over on the FanArt boards someone did a drawing of a pretty cool looking Joker that I think would be creepy as hell if it was translated onto the big screen.


The artist's screen-name is antmanx68....this is not mine.....I repeat this drawing is not mine but that of antmanx68



http://img292.echo.cx/img292/9898/sequeljoker4uh.jpg

[TimDrake64x]

needs color, but to me it just looks like some old guy. and i think its a bad manip because you can see where his ctual skin is and then where u put the jokers skin over it, it just doesnt look very professional but just keep workin on them and u will get the hang of it

[Spidey-Bat]

Tim Roth was born to play Joker. :joker:

No. He was born to live.

[BruceWayne]

needs color, but to me it just looks like some old guy. and i think its a bad manip because you can see where his ctual skin is and then where u put the jokers skin over it, it just doesnt look very professional but just keep workin on them and u will get the hang of it



It's not a manip.....just a drawing someone did over on the Fan Art boards. I think it's creepy as hell and would fit in really well with Nolan's Batman.

[etrigan69]

needs color, but to me it just looks like some old guy. and i think its a bad manip because you can see where his ctual skin is and then where u put the jokers skin over it, it just doesnt look very professional but just keep workin on them and u will get the hang of it
That's red around his eyes ala "Arkham Asylum".

[StrainedEyes]

Tim Roth as Joker :joker:

http://www.renderosity.com/photos/ArtistArticle12077.jpg

[The Kid]

oh no way. poo poo... uh uh.. no

http://batmanrider.ytmnd.com/

[Carmine Falcone]

Tim Roth as Joker :joker:

http://www.renderosity.com/photos/ArtistArticle12077.jpg

good manip, not so fond of the casting choiche.

[kryptoncrony]

I really think Timothy Olyphant would be an awesome Joker. Another cool choice would be Barry Pepper.

[FCEEVIPER]

I am going to laugh so hard when the WB/Nolan picks an actor that's not even on this thread!

[kryptoncrony]

Barry Pepper as the joker!

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/hh/0001608/HH/0001608/Barry1.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Pepper,%20Barry

http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif

[TimDrake64x]

It's not a manip.....just a drawing someone did over on the Fan Art boards. I think it's creepy as hell and would fit in really well with Nolan's Batman.
i know and sorry i should have clairified this. the 1st sentence was for the draying but the rest was for the manip of ed norton. sorry for the confusion

[dogsgotlipstick]

the more I'm seeing glover, the more i hope it's not him. His name and picture is plastered all over the net... his agent must have been very busy. I'm not going to pass judgement on his acting; I've only seen him in BTTF. I do think there are a few names that are being bandied about, that could do a good job; Ecclestone(my personal favourite), i'm coming round to the idea of tim roth, bettany, elijah wood would be good, andy serkis, nick stahl after his stint as that yellow bastard:yellow: , richard e grant... the list goes on and on.

One argument i don't get is the, "...he don't sound like the joker..." Right, so what does the joker sound like???
:joker:

[Iceman23088]

no jim carrey or jude law. Bishop33 is right. If you have ever seen willard you know that Crispin Glover has no problem portraying a Very dark and sick character. He was also the thin man in Charlie's Angels. I've heard rumors of Sean Penn .... i was thinkin about it and i remember in his movie I Am Sam he lost alot of weight and was pretty thin. I don't doubt his acting i bet he could pull off a joker.

[Detective Flass]

Someone Manip this picture.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/femmeke830/timrothjoker.jpg

[SatanBurger]

One argument i don't get is the, "...he don't sound like the joker..." Right, so what does the joker sound like???
:joker:

Not like Crispin Glover. I don't think he has any one definitive voice, but the way Glover talks is totally contradictory to The Joker's character. He's shaky and nervous and meek sounding. The Joker should be loud and bombastic. Normally I'd say laying a blanket statement like that over an actor is foolish, since the point of acting is to interpret different characters, but every role I've seen Glover in seems nearly identical to the last. He's an example of a thespian who's better at playing himself than his characters, which is a big reason why I doubt his ability.

[BK]

Someone Manip this picture.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/femmeke830/timrothjoker.jpg
It already is, look at the pic and the url.

[TimDrake64x]

everyone who doubts jude law go watch road to perdition hes fantastic, please i beg u.

my list
1. jude law
2. alan cumming
3. sean penn
4. glover
5. steve bechemi (surprise choice i know)

any of those i would be ok with, the top 2 i would estatic about, but everyone else just ok not bad though

[etrigan69]

Someone Manip this picture.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/femmeke830/timrothjoker.jpg

It already looks manniped...

[etrigan69]

Someone Manip this picture.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/femmeke830/timrothjoker.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/etrigan69/rothjoker2.jpg

[etrigan69]

And without the teeth which i think looks better.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/etrigan69/rothjoker.jpg

[The Nose Goblin]

Dunno if its been suggested, but what about Joaquin Phoenix as a younger Joker?
http://www.dearjoaquin.com/gallery/albums/Movies/Quills/normal_quillscap54.jpg
http://www.dearjoaquin.com/gallery/albums/lothlorienbaby/Gladiator/normal_GLADIATOR-165.jpg
http://www.dearjoaquin.com/gallery/albums/Movies/Gladiator/normal_gladiator04.jpg

[dogsgotlipstick]

Not like Crispin Glover. I don't think he has any one definitive voice, but the way Glover talks is totally contradictory to The Joker's character. He's shaky and nervous and meek sounding. The Joker should be loud and bombastic. Normally I'd say laying a blanket statement like that over an actor is foolish, since the point of acting is to interpret different characters, but every role I've seen Glover in seems nearly identical to the last. He's an example of a thespian who's better at playing himself than his characters, which is a big reason why I doubt his ability.

personally i'm sick of seeing glover, and would hate if he got the role; i remember him whining, pissing and whinging, in every scene in bttf, your summary that he has no acting range puts the icing on the cake.

my point is i've heard a lot of people say that, "penn can't do it because of his voice, or law can't do it beause of his voice...etc. etc." the joker is a 2d comic character, romero gave his interpretation of the voice, nicholson his and so too hamill; who truly knows the voice of the joker, other than his creator, the deceased bob Kane.

[TheBat812]

can people stop syaing "any of these choices id be okay with.) because there's a DAMN good chance Nolan will pick somebody nobody's thought of and they will BE the joker just as Bale IS batman.

[TheBat812]

and also here's tim roth: looks pretty good:
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/7556/timrothjokercopy3vt.jpg

[JLBats]

Someone Manip this picture.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/femmeke830/timrothjoker.jpg

Whoa... Roth is rising on my list of choices...

[VenomFang]

can people stop syaing "any of these choices id be okay with.) because there's a DAMN good chance Nolan will pick somebody nobody's thought of and they will BE the joker just as Bale IS batman.

I agree with the mentality of nailing the character, as Bale did with Batman. To me, Crispin Glover has been waiting for the role of Joker his entire life, and no performance before or after will suit him better than this.

[etrigan69]

One more Roth as Joker...

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5029/rothjoker3final9ac.jpg

[ManWhoLaughs83]

Out of the choices that I have seen listed here, my favorites would have to be Bettany, Del Toro, Buscemi, Penn, and Roth. Until I see more of Lachy Hulme's work, I can't really form an opinion on him. I think there are a lot of good choices out there that have been mentioned either very little, or not at all. I only bring this up because the part will not likely be cast for at least 18 months, which means that the odds are good that none of the people currently "in the running" will be chosen.

A few other names I feel are worth considering are:

Dominic West- those of you who watch the HBO series "The Wire" have seen his acting chops, which are pretty good. He also has an intriguing look that would work well for the Joker.

Vince Vaughn- I know, I know, he sucked as Norman Bates, but he still has psycho potential. In terms of having Joker's charm, he is only beaten out by Depp. I'm not saying he's the best candidate, but the potential is there.

Adam Grenier- In addition to West (above), I would love to see a manip of this guy as the Harlequinn of Hate. He's got the look: tall, lanky, long face, large grin, even big lips to put that red lipstick on. He's is also a good actor, as he does a great job in the lead role of Vince on "Entourage." He can also play crazy characters, which is what he did as an acid-tripping chracter in "Harvard Man."

[StrainedEyes]

....

[SatanBurger]

I agree with the mentality of nailing the character, as Bale did with Batman. To me, Crispin Glover has been waiting for the role of Joker his entire life, and no performance before or after will suit him better than this.

Why? Because he has a long face and he played a creepy guy in Willard? You have yet to give a convincing argument as to why Glover is the be all end all for the Joker.

[LinzCinema]

So I was seriously contemplating on who I think should be the next Joker, when my wonderful boyfriend said hey, what about that guy from Blade. I said Stephen Dorff? Yes, omg seriously. If any of you have ever seen Cecil B. Demented, you would see how wonderfully mad this man can be. I think he would be wonderful in the role.

And hi, sorry to butt in, me being a newb and all, but I was looking for other peoples opions on the matter and I found this place.

[Conan4742]

In most of his roles, Tim Roth has always played a very sullen character. I don't see much of the Joker in him.

[BarTenderX]

I don't want Sean Penn.
i DON'T want Justin Timberlake (or is he for Two-Face?... either or : DON'T)

Tim Roth and Jude Law would be ok. I guess.
But i'd rather an unknown.

One thing that is a MUST tho:

If there is a scene where Joker leaves Batman incapacitated/unable to follow
and the Joker leaves/escapes
wouldn't it be great if he said:

"Now... if you'll excuse me, I've got to return some videotapes."

[knifeedgedave]

hey there linz, ive never said this so ill savour it...

Welcome to the hype.

Stephen Dorff? well he wouldn't have been my first choice but he looks quite cool. he would need some prosthesis but hey just remember the penguin.

[DorkyFresh]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/rothjoker1.jpg

[The Kid]

Dunno if its been suggested, but what about Joaquin Phoenix as a younger Joker?
http://www.dearjoaquin.com/gallery/albums/Movies/Quills/normal_quillscap54.jpg
http://www.dearjoaquin.com/gallery/albums/lothlorienbaby/Gladiator/normal_GLADIATOR-165.jpg
http://www.dearjoaquin.com/gallery/albums/Movies/Gladiator/normal_gladiator04.jpg

this guy would kill in the role... *WINK*;)

[Detective Flass]

One more Roth as Joker...

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5029/rothjoker3final9ac.jpg


Best....manip....EVER! :joker:

[The Kid]

Mark Hammil. Ewan Mcgregor, and Jim Carrey are the only people I think can do it. Maybe tim roth too... I saw him in some independent movie with some hercules jewish guy and a bunch of nazis. they were entertainers and it was weird.

anyway, Jim carrey was born to play this role and I hope Nolan and wb don't bend over for fanboys just to please the basement dwelling lard butts like harry knowels and just bend over for me.:wolverine

[etrigan69]

Best....manip....EVER! :joker:

Thanks man! Very cool of you to say that! :up:

[Dark Knight]

You're telling me Sean penn isnt a good joker?




Sean Penn would be excellent as Joker........you can't go wrong with that guy as the Clown Prince of Crime! :joker:

[StrainedEyes]

http://www.renderosity.com/photos/ArtistArticle12080.jpg

http://www.renderosity.com/photos/ArtistArticle12081.jpg

[Iceman23088]

My opinion has started to change. I used to be all for Crispin Glover and tho i still think he would be a good choice....I don't think i would mind Jude Law or Tim Roth. Roth has the look down, I just don't know if he could act like the joker. Jude Law could act the part i think and I'm sure he could look like the joker if he wanted to. Casting an unknown is always an option and a good one at that. Never doubt Sean Penn. I hope you guys keep dissing him and then he get's the role and proves all of you wrong. Hey Geo is that Christopher Meloni in the picture above?

[Detective Flass]

Roth can definitly act the part. He is an academy award nominee for his villianous role in Rob Roy, and has been ranked one of the best villains of all time. He also played a psychopathic, murderous ape in planet of the apes.

Roth can do the voice.
Roth has the look.
Roth is an Excellent actor.

TIM ROTH FOR THE JOKER!

[Detective Flass]

Has anyone else thought of Matthew Modine for The Joker. I think he'd be friggen awesome in the role.

Here are some pics!

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/touchstone_pictures/signs/matthew_modine/signspre.jpg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/kill_bill__volume_1/matthew_modine/billpre.jpg

He has the facial structure, can laugh like The Joker. And of course has the acting chops. He was the star of Stanley Kubric's Full Metal Jacket and Flowers for Algernon.

And for those of you who complain about height. This man is...


6 FOOT 3!!!!!

He is friggen 6'3! You guys have nothing to complain about.

[StrainedEyes]

My opinion has started to change. I used to be all for Crispin Glover and tho i still think he would be a good choice....I don't think i would mind Jude Law or Tim Roth. Roth has the look down, I just don't know if he could act like the joker. Jude Law could act the part i think and I'm sure he could look like the joker if he wanted to. Casting an unknown is always an option and a good one at that. Never doubt Sean Penn. I hope you guys keep dissing him and then he get's the role and proves all of you wrong. Hey Geo is that Christopher Meloni in the picture above?


Yup :joker:

[VenomFang]

Crispin Glover will get the role. For those who think the voice is beyond his abilities, did you honestly think Luke Skywalker had the best Joker voice ever? Obviously not. Give the guy a chance, he is an actor after all.

[Spidey-Bat]

And for those of you who complain about height. This man is...


6 FOOT 3!!!!!

He is friggen 6'3! You guys have nothing to complain about.

He's 2 inches shorter than what Joker should be:joker:

[NOFX]

HOLY *****!!! HOW IS IT THAT JUDE LAW ONLY HAS 7 VOTES :rolleyes: THE GUYS IS PERFECT!!! HE'S TALL AND LANKY. HE CAN BE DARK,SERIOUS, AND MANIACAL. NAME A CHARACTER TRAIT FROM THE JOKER AND JUDE LAW CAN DO IT ALOT BETTER THEN ANY OF THESE ACTORS MENTIONED SO FAR ON THIS THREAD. CRISPIN GLOVER THE FAN FAVORITE???? :mad: NOTHING I'VE SEEN FROM HIM SUGGEST HE CAN PLAY JOKER. THIS REMINDS OF THE LETS GET TOM WELLING FOR SUPERMAN DAYS. AN ACTOR WHO LOOKS LIKE THE ROLE BUT CANT ACT TO SAVE HIS LIFE!!! :cool:

[Detective Flass]

He's 2 inches shorter than what Joker should be:joker:

There's no actor out there who is in the mix for Joker that is 6'5. Take it or leave it. :o

My Joker List:

1. Tim Roth
2. Sean Penn
3. Matthew Modine
4. Paul Bettany
5. Crispin Glover

[Detective Flass]

HOLY *****!!! HOW IS IT THAT JUDE LAW ONLY HAS 7 VOTES :rolleyes: THE GUYS IS PERFECT!!! HE'S TALL AND LANKY. HE CAN BE DARK,SERIOUS, AND MANIACAL. NAME A CHARACTER TRAIT FROM THE JOKER AND JUDE LAW CAN DO IT ALOT BETTER THEN ANY OF THESE ACTORS MENTIONED SO FAR ON THIS THREAD. CRISPIN GLOVER THE FAN FAVORITE???? :mad: NOTHING I'VE SEEN FROM HIM SUGGEST HE CAN PLAY JOKER. THIS REMINDS OF THE LETS GET TOM WELLING FOR SUPERMAN DAYS. AN ACTOR WHO LOOKS LIKE THE ROLE BUT CANT ACT TO SAVE HIS LIFE!!! :cool:

*gives standing ovation* :up:

[Alonsovich]

He's 2 inches shorter than what Joker should be:joker:

And Bale is two inches shorter than what Batman should be, so that makes 6'3 THE height for the new movie Joker...:o

[Attikus]

In the end it'll probably be Johnny Depp or Adrian Brody (cause Brody is gonna be huge after King Kong). And Depp is huge now. Bet on Depp.

Attikus

[NOFX]

The only fault I can give the guy is the bastard stole my woman!!!

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00011/hayek_11426a.jpg

HOLY *****!!! THATS THE BEST PIC I'VE SEEN SO FAR ON THIS THREAD!!! :eek:



HAYEK DAMMIT!!! :cool:

[NOFX]

In the end it'll probably be Johnny Depp or Adrian Brody (cause Brody is gonna be huge after King Kong). And Depp is huge now. Bet on Depp.

Attikus
Yes, because Nolan only hire actors that are huge :rolleyes: Like Bale, Neeson, Watanabe, Murphy, Freeman, Caine, Oldman, the list goes on.....................

[Alonsovich]

Yes, because Nolan only hire actors that are huge :rolleyes: Like Bale, Neeson, Watanabe, Murphy, Freeman, Caine, Oldman, the list goes on.....................

I'm sorry... but those actors ARE huge. The only ones that could be considered somewhat lesser knowns are Murphy (which is the ONLY one that got a major role), Hauer, Wilkinson and Roache.

[NOFX]

I'm sorry... but those actors ARE huge. The only ones that could be considered somewhat lesser knowns are Murphy (which is the ONLY one that got a major role), Hauer, Wilkinson and Roache.
IMO there are great actors and huge in that way.............But to the general public.............NO they are not. I remember telling my friends last year hey there making a new batman movie. and They Said "Who's plaing Batman?" I said "Christian Bale" And they said "WHO???". Really the only one that was Huge was really Morgan Freeman and Katie holmes believe it or not. I remember watching a movie in the cinema, and they showed the Batman Begins trailer. One of my friends said Hey Morgan Freeman in it, im deifntely watching it now. Even though Batman Begins did well in the box office, the general public still doenst know who Christian bale is. Its more like Hey there goes the guys that played Batman in Batman Begins, then it is hey there goes Christian Bale who played Batman In Batman begins.

[Alonsovich]

IMO there are great actors and huge in that way.............But to the general public.............NO they are not. I remember telling my friends last year hey there making a new batman movie. and They Said "Who's plaing Batman?" I said "Christian Bale" And they said "WHO???". Really the only one that was Huge was really Morgan Freeman and Katie holmes believe it or not. I remember watching a movie in the cinema, and they showed the Batman Begins trailer. One of my friends said Hey Morgan Freeman in it, im deifntely watching it now. Even though Batman Begins did well in the box office, the general public still doenst know who Christian bale is. Its more like Hey there goes the guys that played Batman in Batman Begins, then it is hey there goes Christian Bale who played Batman In Batman begins.

Your friends are stupid then. Nobody I know doesn't know who is Michael Caine or Liam Neeson. In fact... I know quite a bunch of people to who the mere mention of these two names means automatically going to see the film.

[NOFX]

Your friends are stupid then. Nobody I know doesn't know who is Michael Caine or Liam Neeson. In fact... I know quite a bunch of people to who the mere mention of these two names means automatically going to see the film.
Well your from Europe right, well Caine and Neeson are pretty popular over there. While Freeman and Holmes are pretty popular here in the states. :o

[The Nose Goblin]

Ok, here is another left-field casting choice for the Joker....

Rufus Sewell

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Modernman/411660b6.bmp
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Modernman/a4fbd012.bmp

[The_Question]

Stephen Dorff for Joker

http://images.art.com/images/PRODUCTS/large/10042000/10042208.jpg

[Matis17]

Has anyone else thought of Matthew Modine for The Joker. I think he'd be friggen awesome in the role.

Here are some pics!

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/touchstone_pictures/signs/matthew_modine/signspre.jpg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/kill_bill__volume_1/matthew_modine/billpre.jpg

He has the facial structure, can laugh like The Joker. And of course has the acting chops. He was the star of Stanley Kubric's Full Metal Jacket and Flowers for Algernon.

And for those of you who complain about height. This man is...


6 FOOT 3!!!!!

He is friggen 6'3! You guys have nothing to complain about.How the hell could you leave out the fact that his nickname in Full Metal Jacket was Joker?

[Muze]

Stephen Dorff for Joker

http://images.art.com/images/PRODUCTS/large/10042000/10042208.jpg

when did the Joker become a dwarf?

[Bat Brain]

Not sure if he's been mentioned yet, but:

http://www.unreel.co.uk/reviews/m/Max/co6.jpg
http://www.tombraider.hu/imgs/film/noah.jpg
http://i.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/030108/155728__max_l.jpg
http://www.unreel.co.uk/reviews/m/Max/co2.jpg

Noah Taylor. He played Hitler in ''Max'' he was in the ''Tomb Raider'' movies and he will be appearing in ''The New World''

Thoughts, comments, opinions?

[Matis17]

I'll just say that he was my #1 pick for Scarecrow before Cillian was cast.

[GHollywood]

Mark Hamill was already a bad guy so he cant be the joker
I Think you remember THE
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/GaryDaMack/hamill.jpg
COCKNOCKER

[aquiles]

Mark Hamill was already a bad guy so he cant be the joker
I Think you remember THE
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/GaryDaMack/hamill.jpg
COCKNOCKERand the trickster in the flash series,also hes to old

[NOFX]

Anyone has that pic of Jude Law at Showest 2004??? The one wear he's wearing that white suit. It would be perfect for a Joker Manip :cool:

[LinzCinema]

when did the Joker become a dwarf?

Bah. Stephen Dorff may be a little short and not be the best person for the part in terms of looks, but holy hell could he pull off being bat**** insane. I think more than anything else.

Looks are important, but ya know, its hollywood, looks are only what they make them.

[Detective Flass]

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5029/rothjoker3final9ac.jpg

TIM ROTH FOR THE JOKER

[Detective Flass]

How the hell could you leave out the fact that his nickname in Full Metal Jacket was Joker?


Fudge! How could I forget that. :o

[VenomFang]

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

Glover for Joker!

[Detective Flass]

Enough with that friggen picture. We get it! You want Glover.

Damn man. You're the Glover equivilent of me. :o

[The Kid]

glover won't be joker because Nolan's not stupid.

so give that pic and that weirdo actor a rest, will ya, mate?

[Casting King]

Of all the poeple being suggestted to play the joker, I cant belive one of the few obvious choices hasnt been suggested. Sam Rockwell..Not too many actors can pull off cool phychopath like Mr.Rockwell. Its important that who ever is selected to play joker for the this sequal has to:

A)Able to compliment the dark directing style of chris nolan.
Nolan style is perfect for not only batman, but for an actor capable emotional depth.This is Rockwell.

b) able to go where Jack nicholsan didnt: While was Jacks performs was one of the best, but it was one of the best in cinematic filiming period, is entyertained more than scared. So whomever dons the roll, has to do what jack didnt,which really scare tha **** out moviegowers.

c) convicing. Crispin LOOKS like the joker, but judging from his past credits, thats as far as he can go.Mark Hamill and all these other old school cats sounds good, but lets be realistic, they're old. this joker has to be a few year older than batman. (Mid to late 30's)and if we're going to go ol school, then someone get Ray Liotta on the phone, cause he'd body that role just as well. But this joker has to be someone that when you look at, intrigues you like "what the **** went wrong with this dude."

[Casting King]

Someone Please Post Up Up A Picture Of Sam Rockwell So This Case Can Be Closed..

[TimDrake64x]

after begins, i trust nolan will make the right call, so all we have to do is wait.....just wait.........yup any minute now........

[Detective Flass]

Stephen Dorff for Joker

http://images.art.com/images/PRODUCTS/large/10042000/10042208.jpg

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=548&stc=1

[Iceman23088]

HaHa Sam Rockwell....C'mon .... i dont mind him as an actor but that was the stupidest thing i have ever heard. If he plays the joker nolan has lost his friggin mind..plus the guy isn't even 6 foot

[Dark Knight]

Sean Penn for the Joker Dammit!


(if not, then go with Crispin Glover) :joker:

[Dark Knight]

HOLY *****!!! THATS THE BEST PIC I'VE SEEN SO FAR ON THIS THREAD!!! :eek:



HAYEK DAMMIT!!! :cool:


wow! what a pic of Salma! she is sooooo freakin hot!

[Dark Knight]

who is Salma Hayek with now??

[Detective Flass]

who is Salma Hayek with now??

Me.

[Oldguy]

Wow, Modine is a surprise, but ya I'm feelin it.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/kill_bill__volume_1/matthew_modine/billpre.jpg

Steven Dorffffff? I can't *****slap him fast enough.

[NOFX]

wow! what a pic of Salma! she is sooooo freakin hot!
You copied my quote but not the pic???!!! :eek: Shame On YOU!!! :rolleyes:

[SINISTER SMILE]

More Manips And Darkknight Were Are Those Manips I Asked For Buddy

[TimDrake64x]

someone please do a manip of alan cumming

[FCEEVIPER]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=548&stc=1
Double NEIN!

[Dark Knight]

You copied my quote but not the pic???!!! :eek: Shame On YOU!!! :rolleyes:


i know....i don't know why the pic didn't copy over.......? DAMMIT!

[Dark Knight]

someone please do a manip of alan cumming

This is not necessary--Dew

[BT18]

I have a new suggestion to add. Pete Postlethwaite.

I don't know if he can do an American accent, or if they want someone who looks the same age as Bale, but in my opinion he has the perfect unusually shaped face for the role. And he's proven over and over how great an actor he is. Although they'll probably chose someone younger

http://www.thisischeshire.co.uk/cheshire/warrington/celebs/images/pete_postlethwaite.jpg

[BT18]

NO Alan Cumming.....as Joker stuff......he is a prissy homo little midget girly man! LOL.....

wow what a hilarious remark so deserving of LOLing at your own comment. You're truely a mental giant

[The Kid]

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/content/detail.asp?ID=24262&type=1&page=6&fav=0

fer all you stinkball krispy gloves supperters
nsfw
18+

don't click that link, kids;)

[Guyper1]

Doesn't anyone think that Sean Penn is too short to be The Joker? How tall is he?

[BK]

5'9''

But it really doesn't matter, height can always be solved in this day and age.

[Detective Flass]

The Four Horseman of Casting:

Tim Roth

http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/personalidades/atores/tim-roth/tim-roth01.jpg

Sean Penn

http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/personalidades/atores/sean-penn/sean-penn01.jpg

Matthew Modine

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/a_i___artificial_intelligence/matthew_modine/aipre.jpg

Paul Bettany

http://www.movieguide.co.nz/images/pics/Paul%20Bettany.jpg


My Four Choices for The Joker. :joker:

[TimDrake64x]

i think paul is the best choice of those 4, he seems like an actor nolan would like

[TimDrake64x]

NO Alan Cumming.....as Joker stuff......he is a prissy homo little midget girly man! LOL.....

that is the worst comment ive ever seen of these boards....ever. he may be gay and he may not, i dont know, and truthfully i dont care, it doesnt bother me if an actor is gay and they are a good actor or PERFECT for a part. so go back to your kkk meeting and burn a cross in someones yard, seems like thats what your good at

[Spidey-Bat]

Me.

Salma isn't a lesbian:joker:

[Dark Knight]

that is the worst comment ive ever seen of these boards....ever. he may be gay and he may not, i dont know, and truthfully i dont care, it doesnt bother me if an actor is gay and they are a good actor or PERFECT for a part. so go back to your kkk meeting and burn a cross in someones yard, seems like thats what your good at


sorry if my comment isn't PC enough for you buddy....... He would be inappropriate for the role of the Joker, would that comment make you feel better? Oh and i guess you have not been to the Superman Message boards......there has been alot worse said over there about Singer and no i am not a racist.....so stop being so sensitive. And yes....Alan Cummming IS gay.....

[Dark Knight]

5'9''

But it really doesn't matter, height can always be solved in this day and age.



who is that booty girl on your avatar??

[Dark Knight]

The Four Horseman of Casting:

Tim Roth

http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/personalidades/atores/tim-roth/tim-roth01.jpg

Sean Penn

http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/personalidades/atores/sean-penn/sean-penn01.jpg

Matthew Modine

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/a_i___artificial_intelligence/matthew_modine/aipre.jpg

Paul Bettany

http://www.movieguide.co.nz/images/pics/Paul%20Bettany.jpg


My Four Choices for The Joker. :joker:


Sean Penn easily out of the four...to me it's not even close......Penn would bring everything to the table IMO......charisma, energy, indie credit, unpredictability and some star power as well.

[TimDrake64x]

sorry if my comment isn't PC enough for you buddy....... He would be inappropriate for the role of the Joker, would that comment make you feel better? Oh and i guess you have not been to the Superman Message boards......there has been alot worse said over there about Singer and no i am not a racist.....so stop being so sensitive. And yes....Alan Cummming IS gay.....

but thats my point it shouldnt amtter if hes gay, that shouldnt even come up here, but u know 1 jerk is gona bring it up, and no i dont hang out in the superman boards

[Dark Knight]

but thats my point it shouldnt amtter if hes gay, that shouldnt even come up here, but u know 1 jerk is gona bring it up, and no i dont hang out in the superman boards


calm down will you? I am not a homophope but a fact is a fact......Cumming is too short and too much of a girly boy to be the Joker. Plus he was already Nightcrawler in X2.

[TimDrake64x]

i dont think mightcrawler is a good reason to count him out. he had no much make up the connection wouldnt be known by many people. and height shouldnt be a concern with anyone, keaton is short but no one notices that in his movies.

[BK]

who is that booty girl on your avatar??
Shame on you, it's Beyonce of course! ;)

[TimDrake64x]

good lord, that is amazing...im not even mad

[Mike_D]

crispin glover. end of story. :o

[Detective Flass]

Salma isn't a lesbian:joker:

That's right. That's why she's with me....Dickwad. :o

[logan_weapon_x]

Well Modine's more of a Riddler anyway. I just thought about Michael Wincott. He's abit old, but could maybe work.

http://www.northernstars.ca/actorsvz/media/wincott_michael_04.jpg

[Spidey-Bat]

That's right. That's why she's with me....Dickwad. :o
She doesn't go for idiots.

[Detective Flass]

She doesn't go for idiots.


Again, that's why she's ****ing me and not you. ;)

[Dark Knight]

Shame on you, it's Beyonce of course! ;)


i could barely see her face......is she wearing a bikini bottom?? and where is that pic from? a video of hers?

[BK]

i could barely see her face......is she wearing a bikini bottom?? and where is that pic from? a video of hers?

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6606/thccbootay5dx6dw.gif

And here's a link to the full performance, well worth checking out:
http://metrovogue.net/dctemp/bet_aw...%20(062805).wmv (http://metrovogue.net/dctemp/bet_awards_from_destinyvaultnet%20-%20Cater%202%20U%20%28062805%29.wmv)

And that's my last post getting OT. :o

[Spidey-Bat]

Again, that's why she's ****ing me and not you.
I don't think jerking off to pictures of her would be considered ****ing :rolleyes:

;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/Spidey-Boy523/Funny%20Pics/theyareontome.gif

[TimDrake64x]

man yall stop this please

[Spidey-Bat]

I'm sorry. I just enjoy teasing, Flass.

[TimDrake64x]

hey its cool man i just thought the thread needed to get back on topic

[TimDrake64x]

this is a different thought that i sujested a LONG time ago. but how about jack white (yes the singer from the white stripes) but he was in cold mt. and coffee and cigarettes and was fantastic in both

[undesiredcold]

I was watching the movie Hostage and found what I think is a good nomination for Joker: Ben Foster (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004936/) . He plays a evil, saddistic, and twisted murderer pretty damn good yet, he also makes you feel sympathetic for him ever so slightly at times during the film. Ben has also played some dramatic and comedic roles that display his range and the ones I've seen him in it always seemed his acting was well done. He has a good build on him and a face that is Joker like. I'm too lazy right now to post any pics (got to get to sleep soon so I'm not totally useless) but if anybody would like to take the initiative and post some pics/manips it would be appreciated. Have a goodnight all!

[oregondude]

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/content/detail.asp?ID=24262&type=1&page=6&fav=0

fer all you stinkball krispy gloves supperters
nsfw
18+

don't click that link, kids;)


WTF, lol

[NOFX]

HOLY *****!!! HOW IS IT THAT JUDE LAW ONLY HAS 7 VOTES :rolleyes: THE GUYS IS PERFECT!!! HE'S TALL AND LANKY. HE CAN BE DARK,SERIOUS, AND MANIACAL. NAME A CHARACTER TRAIT FROM THE JOKER AND JUDE LAW CAN DO IT ALOT BETTER THEN ANY OF THESE ACTORS MENTIONED SO FAR ON THIS THREAD. CRISPIN GLOVER THE FAN FAVORITE???? :mad: NOTHING I'VE SEEN FROM HIM SUGGEST HE CAN PLAY JOKER. THIS REMINDS OF THE LETS GET TOM WELLING FOR SUPERMAN DAYS. AN ACTOR WHO LOOKS LIKE THE ROLE BUT CANT ACT TO SAVE HIS LIFE!!! :cool:
Bump :cool:

[oregondude]

Bump :cool:

I think the deal with Law is he has no edge. The Joker MUST have a dangerous edge to him, a bit of mystery. Law does not have that. Glover does.

I was so happy to see Neeson was actually Ra's in Begins. During the casting press releases I was pumped Neeson was casr, as in my mind he is perfect for that role. Then they came out satying Watanbe was it, now don't get me wrong he was incredible in Samurai but he does not fit the persona of Ra's very well at all.

Seeing that twist in the movie was very cool to me, glad they did it that way.

[PerfectStorm]

JOKER NEEDS TO LOOK AND BE PSYCHOTIC. JUST LIKE THIS.

http://orion.pepperdine.edu:8080/refs/uploads/134/psycho.bmp

SO PSYCHOTIC THAT HE NEEDS TO BE SEDATED!
REALLY REALLY CREEPY.

[StrainedEyes]

JOKER NEEDS TO LOOK AND BE PSYCHOTIC. JUST LIKE THIS.

http://orion.pepperdine.edu:8080/refs/uploads/134/psycho.bmp

SO PSYCHOTIC THAT HE NEEDS TO BE SEDATED!
REALLY REALLY CREEPY.


WTF is that? :down

[NOFX]

I think the deal with Law is he has no edge. The Joker MUST have a dangerous edge to him, a bit of mystery. Law does not have that. Glover does.


Glover has more of an edge then Law??? :rolleyes: Im sorry but that must be the dumbest comment I ever heard!!! :mad: Watch Road To Perdition!!! :cool: He was very Much "ON THE EDGE"

[NOFX]

Most important traits for casting Joker?
Being Tall and Lanky
Having a Crazy Smile
Having a Good Voice
Having Genre Experience
Being the Correct Age
Being Original and not Resembling any Past Incarnations:

You know who has all those "Important Traits" JUDE LAW!!!
:cool:

[The Kid]

more like jim carrey.

Lowl

[Mike_D]

Glover has more of an edge then Law??? :rolleyes: Im sorry but that must be the dumbest comment I ever heard!!! :mad: Watch Road To Perdition!!! :cool: He was very Much "ON THE EDGE"

I forgot how much "ON THE EDGE" Law was in the movie "Alfie". :o

Oh, you can REALLY see the Joker in him in "Closer" when he bangin' two chicks at the same time.

No. Hes too pretty. Sorry. Glover needs AT LEAST an audition for the Joker...hes naturally creepy and psychotic. AND, hes an actor to boot...how many creepy psychotic actors do you know??! :o

-Mike

[TimDrake64x]

i think jude is alot better than glover

[oregondude]

Glover has more of an edge then Law??? :rolleyes: Im sorry but that must be the dumbest comment I ever heard!!! :mad: Watch Road To Perdition!!! :cool: He was very Much "ON THE EDGE"

Wow, it speaks. Law had NO edge in Perdition, he was just an unassuming goofy dude. he had no threat of danger about him. Wow if you thought he had edge I would hate to see you in public, you probably jump at shadows.

[oregondude]

Most important traits for casting Joker?
Being Tall and Lanky
Having a Crazy Smile
Having a Good Voice
Having Genre Experience
Being the Correct Age
Being Original and not Resembling any Past Incarnations:

You know who has all those "Important Traits" JUDE LAW!!!
:cool:

Hate to break it to you, but Mr atanabe was not Ra's, he was a dupe.

Genre experience? What super hero movie has Jude Law been in? Bale never did any, in fact nobody cast in a Batman movie int he past has had genre experience.

Law born 1971 Glover born 1964 wow big difference there. Glover looks far from his age as well.

The Joker is not really tall. Most times he is in the cmics he is about 3 inches shorter than Batman, that puts him about 5 foot 10 - 5 foot 11. Which I think Jude Law is about that but Crispin Glover is 6 foot 1 and lankier than Law with a creepier voice than Law. Law has the "seduce your wife" voice and I doubt he could hit the right notes for the voice to be a good Joker voice. The arguments you use to support Law over Glover really work the other way around. You should think those things through before postng them.


here are some smiles for you
http://www.villainousvamps.com/crispinjoker.jpghttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/abusdecine/festivals/deauville2001/CrispinGloverBartleby.jpg

http://www.tagliners.org/pics/Alfie.jpg
http://www2.filmweb.no/multimedia/archive/00034/Jude_Law_Wallpaper_S_34617j.jpg

Personally I think they should go with a no name actor and REALLY nail the part. I think Glover would do an ok job but he doesn't jump out at me and say "I AM the Joker" however he is easily better than Law for the part.

[DDRSkata]

Glover is all wrong for the part. Yeah, he looks the part, but this is a movie, not a lookalike contest. He doesn't have the voice or demeanor for the part, and even if he can act the part, his voice is still absolutely wrong.

[Mike_D]

Glover is all wrong for the part. Yeah, he looks the part, but this is a movie, not a lookalike contest. He doesn't have the voice or demeanor for the part, and even if he can act the part, his voice is still absolutely wrong.

I dont think we should discuss that "the voices dont work" just yet, we havent even heard him act like the joker yet!!!! Thats like saying Bale was too thin or too fat to play Batman when we were first shown the pics of him when they announced his casting.

Actors ACT. I'm sure he can pull it off.

-Mike

[Mike_D]

Enough with that friggen picture. We get it! You want Glover.

Damn man. You're the Glover equivilent of me. :o

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg

http://cmgponline.com/go/dmgproductions/batman/newcrispjoker.jpg

:D

-Mike

[DDRSkata]

I dont think we should discuss that "the voices dont work" just yet, we havent even heard him act like the joker yet!!!! Thats like saying Bale was too thin or too fat to play Batman when we were first shown the pics of him when they announced his casting.

Actors ACT. I'm sure he can pull it off.

-Mike

I've seen him act before. I don't question his ability to act. But even when he's acting as a crazy psychotic character, even when he's playing someone strong and has what is visually a very strong moment, his voice is still meek and whiny. He doesn't have the voice for the Joker, period. I'll still see the movie if he's cast, but he doesn't have the voice.

[NOFX]

I forgot how much "ON THE EDGE" Law was in the movie "Alfie". :o

Oh, you can REALLY see the Joker in him in "Closer" when he bangin' two chicks at the same time.

No. Hes too pretty. Sorry. Glover needs AT LEAST an audition for the Joker...hes naturally creepy and psychotic. AND, hes an actor to boot...how many creepy psychotic actors do you know??! :o

-Mike
One thing Glover will never have is a Screen Presence!!! Jude Law has a variety and great range in acting Skills. He will make an original Performace of the joker and not just some knock off of Jack Nicolson. Another Great Thing about Jude Law who wont be intimidated By Jack Nicolson Performance who alot of people think he is perfect as the Joker. While Glover will fall falt in he's face!!! While Glover just "LOOKS" like the Joker and thats about it. TO EVEN COMPARE A GREAT ACTOR LIKE JUDE LAW TO GLOVER IS COMPLETLY RIDICULOUS. He is not even Close. You say Jude Law is too Pretty??? Look at Cillian Murphy who was one of those English Pretty boys and look how creepy he was in Batman Begins. You need to See Road To Perdition and A.I. It will change your mind.