Questions & Comments about the Star Wars Saga (past/present/future) [merged-15]

[Smegger56]

HHGG was great when it started, but seriously dipped at the end.

ROTS... while some of the acting can be flat, and the dialogue (love parts mainly) can be p!ss poor, it is a great film overall. Fun to watch and enjoyabel.

Hell, go and see both for crying out loud. I think ROTS is a better movie.

[Smegger56]

Well, what can I say. I'm voting for the underdog this weekend. *shrugs* I may see ROTS when all the hubbub has died down. But I'll make certain I take my towel with me just in case there's a wayward Jedi with a lightsaber in the theater.

Whats the difference if you see it now, or when the hype has dies down? Either way, Lucas is getting some of that money? I don't understand your thinking. See it now, Lucas gets your money. See it in 1 week or 4 weeks, and lucas still gets your money.

[Smegger56]

errrrrm

[Threshold]

My guess was that her adoptive mother died when she was young and that is who she is remembering in ROTJ.

[Karem-Knight]

Yeah I think it Bail

[Knightsaber Priss]

Whats the difference if you see it now, or when the hype has dies down? Either way, Lucas is getting some of that money? I don't understand your thinking. See it now, Lucas gets your money. See it in 1 week or 4 weeks, and lucas still gets your money.

Well, the difference is that I won't be getting mugged by rabid Star Wars fans as I'm trying to make my way to the front row.

[Smegger56]

lol. thats true.

But either way, you're helping both ROTS and HHGTTG... no mater when you see ROTS on the pics

[Obsidian]

These are stupid reasons.

Actually they're quite logical (with the exception of a few).:o

[DACrowe]

The only reason not to see ROTS (besides not beinf able to afford it or being in jail or something) is because you don't want to.

If you don't want to see it, then don't.

If you want to see it, wait a week or two (so you are not contributing to the "records" it will break or make) and then go and see it. I promise you it is a good movie. As how 90% of people enjoyed it too.

[The Caped Knight]

Go back and look at that fight because Obi-Wan spins around....

Your right.

[The Riddler]

It does make sense that he comes back as he appeared when he slaughtered innocent Jedi and killed his pregnant wife emotionally.
maybe he came back as the last time he was a good and healthy jedi like a year before ROTS. :o

[Dodger]

uhh, why is NAtalie Portman bald?


She is bald (and still very cute, methinks) for the movie adaptation of V for VENDETTA. Read it? I haven't, but I hear good things. Oh and this is directed by the wachowki brothers.

[marvelisawesome]

Okay,

With episode III grossing over 16 million at midnight, and with the success this movie is going to have. Do you guys think the sequel trilogy could come out in 10 years? We know those movies have been written, we also know that matthew mayhue who plays chubbaccca, has been signed for them. Do you guys think we will get another set of movies, will george satisfy us?

umm.no. Didnt george lucas say that? HE should make one about yoda!http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Lord Nemesis]

Star Wars should end now, on a high note.

[Dodger]

But hey, Lucas, yeah does have dodgy writing here and there. "Me lady" overused in EP 2. But he can be pretty dam funny at times. Like ROTS.

"Chancellor, Sith lords are our specialty!"

"General Grivieous, I figured you be more taller."

And in the OT, with HAN, he was perfect.

[Knightsaber Priss]

It's not about contributing to the records for me. It's about not getting flogged by a fat, pimple faced geek (Not sayng all Star Wars fans are like that. Just one in particular I know.) with a lightsaber in a Jedi costume.

[Nightwing.]

i think they will.they have great potential.although he said he wants to do clone wars cartoon some more.then a cgi version of a similar ilk then hes wanting to go on and do a live version tv series following the lives of some of the not so familiar characters.

you know when mace windu supposedly 'dies' well it doesnt show him actually dying so there is potential for his return in ep 7 8 and 9.i also think that han solo and princess leia could have a kid and they could be the restoration of the jedi.but it would also be cool for leia to don a lightsabre.i think the biggest mistake that lucas could make is to kill off either r2 or 3p0.but well have to see what the future holds.

[Nightwing.]

i think the best ligthsabre duel was the one with luke and vader in ROTJ when there is two silhouettes and red and green lightsabres lit up in the dark.so cool.they tried to copy that in AOTC with anakin vs dooku when anakin cut the power line with his sabre.didnt have the same effect IMO

[Spider-Fan]

The award goes to Episode III. Anakin vs. Obi-Won was the best duel of the saga.

[Smegger56]

lol

While i'm not like that, it's fun to see, and see those people enjoying the experience. When i went the theatre on opening night, i saw Darth Vader. It was all fun.

But i never dress up. Just jeans and a Liverpool FC top :D

[comicgirl]

lol

While i'm not like that, it's fun to see, and see those people enjoying the experience. When i went the theatre on opening night, i saw Darth Vader. It was all fun.

But i never dress up. Just jeans and a Liverpool FC top :D
:) are you from across the pond? I think dressing up is an american thing (we do love our lightsabers)! I saw a little five y/o dressed up at a midnight showing..that was not cool

[Smegger56]

:) are you from across the pond? I think dressing up is an american thing (we do love are lightsabers)! I saw a little five y/o dressed up at a midnight showing..that was not cool

Are you an american? If so, then i am from across the pond... an Englishman :D

Who doesn't love the lightsabres :D

I just find it funny to see people dress up. Not funny haha, but good time funny, if you know what i mean

[roach]

It's not about contributing to the records for me. It's about not getting flogged by a fat, pimple faced geek (Not sayng all Star Wars fans are like that. Just one in particular I know.) with a lightsaber in a Jedi costume.

didnt you bring a towel to HHGTTG...people in glass houses..people in glass houses

[comicgirl]

Are you an american? If so, then i am from across the pond... an Englishman :Dyup, I'm a yank : ) Has the response been as big over there as here for ROTC? It's huge here.

[Smegger56]

yup, I'm a yank : ) Has the response been as big over there as here for ROTC? It's huge here.

It's packed everywhere in theatres. They've had SW specials on the tele, in the papers... all over. It's an event... and what a way to bow out

[comicgirl]

2) After seeing the picture of Ewan and Hayden kiss at the premiere, boycott the movie and it's sinful actors.................(pokes out eyeball with fork)

[Smegger56]

2) After seeing the picture of Ewan and Hayden kiss at the premiere, boycott the movie and it's sinful actors.

You being serious?

[Nightwing.]

some things ive noticed about clone wars and the star wars films.

in clone wars when the general is trying to capture the senator he is being held off by two jedi.on that is furry and another that has a very powerful throat.if you watch ep IV youll find both these creatures in the bar in which luke and obi wan meet han solo.

C3P0 doesnt recognise the name sky walker in ep IV V and VI yet in ep I he was created by anakin skywalker.is he that dumb to not catch on?

in clone wars shaak tigot her ass kicked twice and still survived yet she snuffs it in ep III is she a rubbish jedi then cos she never seems to win any battles.

also mace windu falls to his apparent death.does he actually die or are we due to see him in ep 7 8 and 9?(if they make em)

if you have noticed anything related to these films then feel free to post em below.

[comicgirl]

I think mace is dead : (

[Nightwing.]

she was referring to bail as she wasnt to know who her father was just like luke didnt.but as far as i know luke tells her in ROTJ or is that just me?

[Spider-Fan]

C3PO got a mindwipe. That was stated at the end of Episode III.

[Smegger56]

And also, about 3PO not knowing the name skywalker... watch ROTS

[snap-hiss]

From a fight standpoint it is TPM's final duel... from a story standpoint it is either Obi Wan vs. Vader in ANH, or Luke vs. Vader in ESB.

!snap

[Nightwing.]

C3PO got a mindwipe. That was stated at the end of Episode III.

oh rite i didnt know that.but if he had a mind wipe then how does he remeber that he was in the clone wars (he says that he remembers battles but he isnt a very good story teller.he tells this to luke in ep IV)can you explain that?

[Smegger56]

perhaps only anything to do with Anakin and all that.

[Spider-Fan]

He was reffering to battles he experienced with the rebellion against the empire, not the Clone Wars.

[roach]

oh rite i didnt know that.but if he had a mind wipe then how does he remeber that he was in the clone wars (he says that he remembers battles but he isnt a very good story teller.he tells this to luke in ep IV)can you explain that?

because he was given to a rebel captain. I am sure he seen several battles with Captain Antilles

[Batman15]

you know what ive noticed? That we have 20-something threads on Star Wars on the first two pages of the Misc. Films Forum. Enough already :mad: :o :(

[comicgirl]

You being serious?I think he is..pretty sure I saw a clip from that...oh, man

[Spider-Fan]

So, it is a forum to discuss various movies, and Star Wars is popuar right now.

[Nightwing.]

ah so if he remebers the clone wars then he will remeber anakin.or have i stumped you?lucas cant cover everything so i guess you cant explain it.but i thought it wouldve been cool if he couldve kept those two jedi alive and used the throat force jedi against grievous.

[roach]

remember when he talks to look about the battles he's mentions the Rebellion against the Empire...nothing about the clone wars

[Smegger56]

I think he is..pretty sure I saw a clip from that...oh, man


He is? aye aye aye :(

the reasons some people will use just to not see a movie

[comicgirl]

He is? aye aye aye :(

the reasons some people will use just to not see a movienah, I think overall lots of people are very excited that it's out and can't wait to see it. Or, already have :) .

[the_ultimate_evil]

well think about it if she knew anikan skywalker was her birth father would she have been so eager to shove her tounge down luke skywlkers neck

[Spider-Fan]

well think about it if she knew anikan skywalker was her birth father would she have been so eager to shove her tounge down luke skywlkers neck

That is a good point, and I can't believe know one else thought of that.

[snap-hiss]

My guess was that her adoptive mother died when she was young and that is who she is remembering in ROTJ.

There's a chance that is the case, however Luke says: "Do you remember your mother, your real mother"... that means he knows (as does Leia) that Bail's wife is not her real mother, and when she answers the question she is not talking about Mrs Organa.

!snap

[comicgirl]

remember when he talks to look about the battles he's mentions the Rebellion against the Empire...nothing about the clone wars
good point...

[comicgirl]

I mean really, his character was great. Does anyone else think he would've been a great contribution to AOTC?

[Immortalfire]

Because Lucas is an idiot.

[LadyVader]

I thought it could've been perfect if Grievous was actually Maul.
Until I saw Grievous in the movie.

Darth Maul died because simply put he was too cool for the Star Wars universe. :D

[comicgirl]

Because Lucas is an idiot.Fire!!! Long time, no see my homie! Yeah, I wish, I wish that Lucas had died and someone else had written the prequels. What if they killed Vadar in the first movie?.

[Isildur´s Heir]

Darth Maul was the best villain after Vader, so yeah...it was a damn shame that he got killed.

Maul was better than Dooku and Grievous combined, IMO

[Dr.Fear]

this convo is for girls? newho i didnt se it cause i got physics homework to do:( all week

[Dr.Fear]

why did you start another thread when u couldve asked the question in any of the existing threads.? jeez!

[snap-hiss]

I agree Maul was a great character, however the story needs to move on. Maul had no place in Sidious' ploitical agenda, he was simply thug muscle. Dooku was not only much stronger than Maul, but much more intelligent and savvy. A much better match for what Sidious neded in an apprentice while forming the CIS.

Sidious keeps his apprentices on a tight rope when it comes to their power. Maul was (we can assume) trained from a young age, and had the potential to become very powerful in the dark side, which is something Sidious can not allow.

One of the main themes of the saga in reguards to the Sith is that in the end there is no gain from the dark side. Crime doesn't pay, you might say. This is why Sidious' apprentices die so frequently, and quickly; except for Anakin of course, as he is the main character of the saga.

!snap

[comicgirl]

why did you start another thread when u couldve asked the question in any of the existing threads.? jeez!sorry, Devil...I should've asked your permission first :)

[LadyVader]

I prefer the original duels, because they felt like people just got the damn sword and started fighting.
You can keep your freakin balet dancing tae kwan dodo fast fowarded Nadia Comaneci don't-know-where-the-hell-I'm-going-so-I'm-just-spinning-around-really-fast girly moves!

[comicgirl]

I agree Maul was a great character, however the story needs to move on. Maul had no place in Sidious' ploitical agenda, he was simply hired muscle. Dooku was not only much stronger than Maul, but much more intelligent and savvy. A much better match for what Sidious neded in an apprentice while forming the CIS.

!snapah, my Sith friend :) Yes, Dooku was stronger, but Maul had such presence and lets be honest, he looked fricken' cool with the dual saber. Grevious is a great charecter, too. But, I was thinking about Maul all thru AOTC.

[Karem-Knight]

ROTJ Luke and Vader

[comicgirl]

this convo is for girls? newho i didnt se it cause i got physics homework to do:( all week
Devil..what are you saying???

[black_dust]

Lucas trying to seal a polt hole with the whole c3po mind wipe thing.

[BlackSymbiote]

If you've ever read the books, Leia refuses to acknowledge Vader as her father.

[Motown Marvel]

im sure she meant Bail when talking in the hologram. she knows he's not her bilogical father....but he has been her father, shes all eh knows as a father, he reaised her like his daughter. if you know any kids who were adopted, theyknow they're adopted but they still call their adopted parents mom and dad....this is the same thing.

[Dr.Fear]

well think about it if she knew anikan skywalker was her birth father would she have been so eager to shove her tounge down luke skywlkers neck

woah luke and her kissed?

[The Spider-Man]

I thought it was odd Maul stood there while Obi-Wan sliced him in two. Maybe he didn't see it coming.

[LadyVader]

Maybe it was just bad writing. :)

[comicgirl]

I thought it was odd Maul stood there while Obi-Wan sliced him in two. Maybe he didn't see it coming.makeup in his eye? :) ..I don't know, I wish he had hung around

[Dr.Fear]

sorry, Devil...I should've asked your permission first :)

im serious, **** pisses me off, theres like a freakin thousand threads. you couldve asked ur question in them

[Immortalfire]

Maul was better than Dooku and Grievous combined, IMO Amen

[Boom]

Maul should have been in Dooku's place.

[Immortalfire]

Fire!!! Long time, no see my homie! http://www.humorhaus.com/images/hh-wassup.jpg

[comicgirl]

Maul should have been in Dooku's place.
I like Dooku (it's Christopher Lee, what's not to like), but they gave Maul such a buildup and then, he's gone. What a letdown.

[snap-hiss]

Maul should have been in Dooku's place.

Maul could never have done what Dooku did. Dooku formed the CIS. He swayed thousands of systems to his cause through masterful politics and carisma. He was also able to survive in a duel with Yoda. Maul could have done none of this.

!snap

[comicgirl]

Maul could never have done what Dooku did. Dooku formed the CIS. He swayed thousands of systems to his cause through masterful politics and carisma. He was also able to survive in a duel with Yoda. Maul could have done none of this.

!snapBut, Maul was the "enforcer" hand of Dooku. He could've been the Luca Brasi to Dooku's Don Corleone. Oh, man. I can believe I said that.

[The Dark Defender]

Darth Maul died because simply put he was too cool for the Star Wars universe. :D

and

[QUOTE]Because Lucas is an idiot.[QUOTE]


:up:

[comicgirl]

One's that I whole heartedly agree with..
#5
Jimmy Smits
I don't mind Jimmy Smits. He seems like a nice enough guy. There is just something so utterly distracting about him in this movie that I can't stand it. Thankfully he's only in a few tiny scenes or I wouldn't have retained a damn thing about this movie. Every scene he is in I am forced to just stare slack-jawed at his magnificence/out-of-placedness. It may be narrow minded but I am just seeing Bobby Simone from NYPD Blue. Okay so I've never actually seen an episode of NYPD Blue but I've seen the commercials.

#21
Representative Binks
Apparently the reason that this Galactic Republic has stood for 1,000 years is because of the great rules they have in place. One such rule is that if you don't feel like going to the Senate you can just have your completely unqualified fool of a friend just fill in for you and decide the fate of the entire Galaxy.

#25
Bustin' on Artoo
There's this one scene where Padme and Anakin are walking on Naboo and she says she's a little nervous and he confesses to also being nervous since this is his first assignment by himself. "Don't worry," Padme says. "We have Artoo with us." Then they both laugh about how ridiculous a concept it is that Artoo could be at all useful. Artoo beeps and if Threepio were there to translate it would probably be something along the lines of "**** you both."

eh, I got bored after 30...OMG, I forgot Jimmy Smits was in 2. Ugh!

[snap-hiss]

But, Maul was the "enforcer" hand of Dooku. He could've been the Luca Brasi to Dooku's Don Corleone. Oh, man. I can believe I said that.

First off Dooku and Maul could never have co-exhisted unless they overthrew Sidious, which could never have happened.

Sidious needed a face for the CIS to play off of in his war. He (Palpatine) woudl be the fearless leader of the Republic whild Dooku would be the nasty Sepratist. He couldn't do it all himself, so he needed Dooku to play that part. Plus Dooku was a former Jedi, so it helped in making the Jedi look bad in the public eye, and made it easier for everyone to accept that the Jedi were evil in the end.

!snap

[hitmanyr2k]

If anything Maul proved Obi-wan's "higher ground" crap to be false lol. Maul had higher ground by a good 10 feet and still managed to get cut in half. What a stupid way to go out.

[marvelisawesome]

If you have the force, can you shoot stuff from your hands? On the dark side force, I mean.

[Boom]

Maul could never have done what Dooku did. Dooku formed the CIS. He swayed thousands of systems to his cause through masterful politics and carisma. He was also able to survive in a duel with Yoda. Maul could have done none of this.

!snap
But Darth Maul could have been written so that he could have done all that.

[patrickbateman]

Any one here thinks that LUCAS may make a prequel to General afterall he keeps stating that its a refelction of what Anakin would become.

[Swordmaster]

I still say they should have resurrected Maul as Grievous. Maul would agre to it because of his desire to get Revenge on Kenobi. But they could have altered it a bit so that they had get rid of enough body to make him a non-Force sensitive

[The Spider-Man]

some things ive noticed about clone wars and the star wars films.

in clone wars when the general is trying to capture the senator he is being held off by two jedi.on that is furry and another that has a very powerful throat.if you watch ep IV youll find both these creatures in the bar in which luke and obi wan meet han solo.
Both Jedi were killed by Grievous. The creatures in Episode IV are just of the same species as the two Jedi.

[Bathrat]

He is? aye aye aye :(

the reasons some people will use just to not see a movie No you DUMBASS read the rest of the ****ing thread :rolleyes:

And yes it's true they kissed.

[imagerian27]

has to be episode 3 even tho i prefered Yoda in the second his duel in this film was great so was the Mace/Sidious duel but there nothing compated to Anakin/Obi

[comicgirl]

Both Jedi were killed by Grievous. The creatures in Episode IV are just of the same species as the two Jedi.did anyone think that the animated Grievious from the Clones Wars was cooler than
the movie Greivious? P

[comicgirl]

No you DUMBASS read the rest of the ****ing thread :rolleyes:

And yes it's true they kissed. :rolleyes: dude, come one..play nice : ) we're all part of the larger "geek/nerd" family :)

[The Spider-Man]

Maybe if the duel with Obi-Wan was a bit longer, people wouldn't think he's lame.

[patrickbateman]

man i wanna know what happens to jar jar

[DACrowe]

I have to say that the only fights that felt like they were genuinely planned and thought out by both sides was the duel of fates in TPM, Obi-Wan vs. Count Dooku in AOTC (not the other two Dooku fights though), Mace Windu vs. the Emperor (after the other Jedi are dead who die way too easily and slowly), Yoda vs. the Emperor (only because there is so little sword fighting going on), Vader vs. Luke (ESB), and maybe the last few moves in ROTJ.

I mean most of the fights in AOTC, half the fights in ROTS, the fight in ANH, and most of the fight in ROTJ are not really fights. There is no calculated "strtegery" (I love our President, or not) in those fights. It is all showy.

The fight in TPM shows you can have a fast showy fight that is well planned, but for some reason the "ultimate battle" between Obi-Wan and Anakin/Vader in ROTS is mostly showy except when they use their hands and feet. The sabre strikes are rarely usable or realistc moves. They are aiming at each other's swords and not an actual target on the enemy.

But most movies do that. Hence, I love the movie that will take the time to make a well chorgeographed and planned fight. For example Achilles vs. Hector in Troy (one of the few great scenes in that movie) each character has a stradegy and every move they did in that fight had a point. Too bad you can't say that for most of the rest of the direction for that movie...

[comicgirl]

man i wanna know what happens to jar jarIf there's a god, he'll be kidnapped and pimped out by Tusken raiders......

[roach]

Jar Jar was on Alderaan in Episode 4

[<(o_o)>]

Jar Jar was on Alderaan in Episode 4

Had they done him in cgi for the Episode 4 dvd? Doesn't that planet eventually get blown up?

[DACrowe]

I know, another SW thread, forgive me...

but do you think Lucas has some political message in ROTS. At first I laughed and shrugged at that, because afterall George Lucas is not Martin Scorecesse or Ridley Scott here. But then I saw the film (twice) and Palpatine's rise to power and using the cloud of war and lines (as Lucas is never a subtle writer) like "You sound like a seperatist" and "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" got people (including myself) laughing at apparent jabs..

But I figured it could be just a vague jab at politicans. But then when asked about it Lucas I read said (and I am paraphrasing here), "I wrote the original Star Wars after Vietnam, and so this has some of the same ideas and you can see some of the same things happening in this movie right now."

So I don't know, I never figured Lucas for an editorialist...

[roach]

im sure this story draws comparisons to Hitler's rise to power in Germany also....this movie was written before the war in Iraq.

[DACrowe]

I saw more Julias Caesar in Palpatine's rise than Hitler. Hitler was more of his actions (annhilation) but his rise especially his sweeping control in AOTC and the whole using the war thing seemed more Caesar to me, and the JEdi was Brtus, but this time Brtus failed.

[skorponok]

Padme's line about the republic becoming the very thing that they were fighting against, or whatever the exact phrasing was, I think was a very direct comment about the Bush administration and the war in Iraq :up:

[comicgirl]

It's totally political. Very Bush-ese.

[snap-hiss]

Lucas wrote Palpatine's political rise to power to mirror Hitler's and to be reminicant of Caesar's. It just happens to end up looking a lot like George W Bush, which makes a pretty big statement, though not exactly the statement Lucas intended.

!snap

[snap-hiss]

did anyone think that the animated Grievious from the Clones Wars was cooler than
the movie Greivious? P

I think the animated Grievous was cooler, yes. He fought better, he was more terrifying, he was shown to be more of a military mind... he was more bada** all around.

!snap

[souloffire]

Tough call, remember most of this was mapped out in Lucas's head before he knew who the George Bush was.

[snap-hiss]

What did I just say? It was not written about Bush, it was written about Hitler and Caesar... Bush just happens to act a lot like those two.

!snap

[souloffire]

Wasn't responding to your post. I was responding to the thread.

[snap-hiss]

I understand... I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you either, but... It's not a tough call, I just gave you the answer.

!snap

[snap-hiss]

But Darth Maul could have been written so that he could have done all that.

True, however Maul makes Dooku look better. It gives you a benchmark on which to judge the other Sith. Because there is a Maul we are then able to know that Dooku is better, thus giving Dooku's character depth.

!snap

[X-Punisher]

Padme's line about the republic becoming the very thing that they were fighting against, or whatever the exact phrasing was, I think was a very direct comment about the Bush administration and the war in Iraq :up:


Yeah Lucas definitly added that line in because of Bush. BEST STAR WARS MOVIE EVER!!!

[comicgirl]

I think there are many simularities between power hungry men.

[roach]

i dont know maybe it's because im in the military and fought in Iraqi Freedom but I dont see how President Bush's moves can be labeled power hungry.

[snap-hiss]

i dont know maybe it's because im in the military and fought in Iraqi Freedom but I dont see how President Bush's moves can be labeled power hungry.

You do see the startaling similarities between Palpatine's rise to power and GWB's winning re-election though, do you not?

!snap

[souloffire]

Yeah Lucas definitly added that line in because of Bush. BEST STAR WARS MOVIE EVER!!!
I fail to see how that line has anything to do with Bush.

[roach]

Palpatine used a war to continue to gain in power staying as Chancellor way past his term....
The Majority of Americans re-elected Bush.

[Golgo-13]

.....This ones for you the devilwithin! :p

[Rizpower]

Or rather we are meant to think they did. Real voters always vote one by one, these votes are en masse. Only CIA election riggers are this accurate.

[gratefuldead399]

Amen

[roach]

Amen

[Rizpower]

Amen.

[logan_weapon_x]

A-****in-men!

[roach]

"This is not the candidate you are looking for..."

[Brodie the fun]

Give me a break. Reason #8 is ridiculous. It's just the Jedi way of thinking.

And the line is actually "You have interfered with our affairs for the last time." The punk-a$$ writer can't even quote the film right, how can anyone take him seriously?\

Oh my god, your brain is retarded. Sweet leprosy, boy. Wow. Hooooooly cow.

[roach]

boy are we giving the Mods a run for their money

[souloffire]

Palpatine used a war to continue to gain in power staying as Chancellor way past his term....
The Majority of Americans re-elected Bush.
Comparing Bush to Palpatine is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

[snap-hiss]

Comparing Bush to Palpatine is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

Not at all.

!snap

[roach]

Comparing Bush to Palpatine is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

I was showing how they are different

[souloffire]

I was showing how they are different
It wasn't directed to you.

[Weadazoid]

Red has always meant evil, and I just kinda thought when any Jedi turned to the dark side his light saber some how reflected that by turning red.

Do Sith have sabers that have other colors? or are they always rd.

Why are some sabers blue, some green, purple, yellow?


Luke starts out with a blue one (his fathers, but by the time he makes his own it is green. What is the deal with the color.

Sidious had a red one

Doku had a red one

Maul had a red one

Vader makes himself a red one I suppose.

[Spidey-Bat]

Jedi Guardians have blue
Jedi Consulars have green
Jedi Sentinels have yellow
Jedi Healers have purple

Sith commonly have red, but really anyone (sith or jedi) can have any color saber they want (as shown in the EU)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightsabers

[CobraCommander]

Well... According to MOVIE continuity, Jedi have blue or green light sabres. Mace Windu is the exception with purple, but that's just because Lucas did Sam Jackson a favor.

The Sith apparently all use red ones.

[Dr.Fear]

sweet mother of jesus, this thread already exists. search!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dr.Fear]

im watching attack of the clones and i do i have to say hayden acting sucked balls. even in the emotional parts, he sucked at. why did lucas pick this guy

[The Caped Knight]

and goddamn that jar jar binks is annoying.

Tell me something I don't know. :mad: (I can't stand him.) :down

[[Faustinas]]

Is that Sith Lord Palapatine talks about Darth Plagueis or Darth Pragious? :confused:

[The Caped Knight]

im watching attack of the clones and i do i have to say hayden acting sucked balls. even in the emotional parts, he sucked at. why did lucas pick this guy

Yes is AOTC Hayden sucked & was a winey teenager, But in ROTS he was pure Badass I like Hayden as Adult Anakin Skywalker / Darth Vader.

[snap-hiss]

']Is that Sith Lord Palapatine talks about Darth Plagueis or Darth Pragious? :confused:

Plagueus.

!snap

[Dr.Fear]

i hope he is, i havent watched the film yet

[The Lumberjack]

sweet mother of jesus, this thread already exists. search!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When the hell did anything you ever say matter?

[BatMatt]

the Batman spot during Episode II was nice

[DorkyFresh]

Sith commonly have red, but really anyone (sith or jedi) can have any color saber they want (as shown in the EU)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightsabers
The EU is not canon...

[Gamma Ray]

PLAGUEis

Almost as original as Grievous, or Sidious, or even Tyranus.

[hitmanyr2k]

Red has always meant evil, and I just kinda thought when any Jedi turned to the dark side his light saber some how reflected that by turning red.

Do Sith have sabers that have other colors? or are they always rd.

Why are some sabers blue, some green, purple, yellow?


Luke starts out with a blue one (his fathers, but by the time he makes his own it is green. What is the deal with the color.

Sidious had a red one

Doku had a red one

Maul had a red one

Vader makes himself a red one I suppose.


Before the prequels I always thought the color of the lightsaber had signifigance....especially in ROTJ. I always thought Luke had picked the green color for his lightsaber because he was conflicted and didn't know which way he was going. It was also apparent because he wore the traditional Jedi robe with the black Sith colors but still remained "good". The green lightsaber represented him being in-between. It was neither good (blue) nor evil (red). That was my interpretation anyway.

[Dr.Fear]

meh it was alright, not excited for it tho.

[Timstuff]

The bad chick from Clone Wars started out with Green and Blue sabers, until Count Dooku kicked her butt and cut her sabers in half. But then he gave her two curved-handled red lightsabers like the one he uses. It's really a matter of preference probably. Dark Jedi prefer red sabers because they are more intimidating, but Jedi don't seem to like them because red is associated with rage.

I'm not sure where red lightsaber crystals come from. I believe I heard that they are synthesized in reactor cores which is what gives them their un-natural red color.

[Immortalfire]

When the hell did anything you ever say matter? Owned.

[BatMatt]

meh it was alright, not excited for it tho.
:( ur not really a Batman fan tho are you?

[Spidey-Bat]

The EU is not canon...

I know. I just thought i'd provide it anyway since there's little provided from the movies.

[Erzengel]

I just got done watching Attack of the Clones and I have to really say I enjoyed that movie.

As compared to the Original Trilogy, obviously it's not as good but on it's own I think it's a good movie.

I love the scene between Anakin and Obi-Wan when they arguing after Padme falls out of the Gunship and Obi-Wan tells him to leave her to fight Dooku with him.

[White_Howling]

KOTOR also gave nice background information about the sith.. more starwars info than the movie

[gratefuldead399]

is it just me or did anyone get pissed of that EVERYONE DIED EXCEPT JAR JAR BINKS. I mean common every single kick ass jedi is dead. Padma is dead. Anikins mom is dead. EVERYONE IS DEAD. but Jar jar is somehow alive.

[snap-hiss]

ROTS makes both the PT films a lot better. Everyone seems to be starting to notice that TPM and AOTC are great films.

!snap

[gratefuldead399]

Where does the star wars universe go from here. For some reason i just cant think of them not making another movie. Just doesnt seem to feel right. Like i get the story is over, but America has been caught up again in the magic that captivated so many with the original 3. So is there gonna be a 7-9 or tv series or what

[snap-hiss]

Two TV series are in the works. A live action series that takes place between ROTS and ANH, and another animated Clone Wars cartoon, only CG this time; similar to the Final Fantasy movie.

!snap

[Erzengel]

This thread will probably be deleted/moved but there are 2 television shows in the works as well as the dvd releases of the clone wars and the sith.

[Spidey-Bat]

Darth Maul went out in the most punk ass way in movie history......

After seeing ROTS, I must disagree.

[gratefuldead399]

ugh i dont know if i could even watch that i mean like a clone war movie where i guess ankin would be good. liek it would be to weird going back into the past and portraying him as a good guy again because we all saw how he fell and would betray the jedis.

[Erzengel]

Actually I thought the Clone Wars 1 and 2 were excellent.

So did TV, it won an Emmy.

[guitarsingerguy]

Yes, it all has to do with the crystals that are put into the saber, and they all retain different properties. They show that in Clone Wars even, which I believe Lucas has stated is canon.

[Erzengel]

I still need a red crystal for Knights of the Old Republic 2.

:)

[Spidey-Bat]

Yes, it all has to do with the crystals that are put into the saber, and they all retain different properties. They show that in Clone Wars even, which I believe Lucas has stated is canon.

It is b/c he asked the guys to make it.

[skorponok]

When the hell did anything you ever say matter?

devilwithin says the same thing about half of the threads here.

[Timstuff]

...Have re-recorded music? I was watching the DVD the other day, and while the bulk of the audio was fine, the music really gave away the film's age. Much of it sounded tinny and deteriorated, which was much easier to notice than the deterioration on the voices and sound effects. Also, John Williams has much more experience as a conductor now, so he could probably get a better quality performance out of the orchestra than he got back in '77. Overall I think that re-recording the music would help hide the film's age and give an overall better quality to the audio track of the film.

It'd be nice if we had the technology to clean up sound enough that it sounds brand new, but I don't know if we're there yet. Not only would it require very good technology to accomplish, but it would probably need to be done by hand on a computer, which could take years of training on the part of the workers to attain the skills needed to clean up the audio using a visually based program, which is probably the only way you can really do it. I'm sure one day it will be possible, but it's far more complicated than restoring an old image to modern standards. Re-recording the music would at least be a good start in the restoration of the film's audio, and it's one that would be immidiately noticable, even if they have to leave the voices and sounds the way they are.

[souloffire]

No way. The Star Wars soundtrack is the best in movie history imo.

[CrAzYMoFo]

Do we ever find out who Sifodyas was? I thought they would answer that in RotS but I don't think that they did.

[CrAzYMoFo]

Jar Jar and Lloyd just ruined that movie for me. When I first saw it I was younger so I didn't mind Jar Jar, but now I can't stand to watch the movie.

[Dr.Fear]

:( ur not really a Batman fan tho are you?

im a fan, just not of the movie

[Erzengel]

I think his role was insiginficant just a means for the Clones to be created.

[snap-hiss]

Do we ever find out who Sifodyas was? I thought they would answer that in RotS but I don't think that they did.

We are really only left to assume that someone ordered the clones under SD's name.

!snap

[DACrowe]

No. WE'VE TINKERED WITH THESE MOVIES ENOUGH. IF WE HEAD DOWN THIS ROUTE THE DARKSIDE WE WILL FIND. WHY NOT JUST MAKE ALL THE CHARACTERS EWOKS AND CALL WOOKIES HAIR CHALLENGED ANIMALS WHILE WE'RE AT IT.

I don't mind trying to make it look better and digitally remastering it, but it is when you try and change the actual film is where my problem comes in.

[brucelee]

I think that the blue lightsaber represents pure good. the purple is more towards good but just a bit above the middle because when Windu wanted to end the battle with emperor instead of trial it was against jedi way. yellow is good with a potential for evil which i saw with bastilla in KOTOR. red is just pure evil. green is middle.

also anakin lost his lightsaber when he was in lava, does that mean he is now pure evil? he also looses his red one when his hand is cut off and then he turns good.

[Flexo]

ROTS makes both the PT films a lot better. Everyone seems to be starting to notice that TPM and AOTC are great films.
!snap

Excuse me while I laugh my face off...

[Erzengel]

I think that right now the crystals mean nothing significant unless you are a sith (then I think it's accustomed to seek out a red one).

[snap-hiss]

Excuse me while I laugh my face off...

Don't get me started.

!snap

[Matt]

The EU is not canon...

I'm so ****ing sick of hearing that. Lucas always puts down the EU saying it's not official, but when he gets the big ass pay check from it, he has no problem stickin out his hand and taking that. It's extremely hypocritical.

And before someone calls me an EU fanboy, I've never even read the EU books.

[Matt]

ROTS makes both the PT films a lot better. Everyone seems to be starting to notice that TPM and AOTC are great films.

!snap


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/Pablo_Corinthian/you_suck_at_life.jpg

[DACrowe]

No I don't think rank has anything to do with it. Because Obi-Wan is on the council by Episode III but he still uses a blue light sabre. Tall forehead guy is on the Council and he has a blue lightsabre. Frog guy on the Council also has a blue one (sorry I don't know their names).

True fish head and Yoda have green though.

And of course Mace Windu the most baddest ass straight laced by the book Jedi who ever lived and a member of the council had a purple one. HE was no healer, otherwise he would have grown back his arm that Anakin cut off, lol!

I think it is just what looks good with the character. For example, non-council member Qui-Gon Jinn looked cooler with a green one and stood out well to Obi-Wan's blue lightsabre there too.

[snap-hiss]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/Pablo_Corinthian/you_suck_at_life.jpg

here's one I made over a year ago...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/snap-hiss/sorrykids-ggdnutff.jpg

!snap

[Flexo]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/Pablo_Corinthian/you_suck_at_life.jpg

That's awesome Matt. :up:
Oh man, Snap, I'm still laughing. You should do stand up.

[Matt]

Wow. YOu just proved me right.

[snap-hiss]

That's awesome Matt. :up:
Oh man, Snap, I'm still laughing. You should do stand up.

I made that for some idiots on a SW board two Easters ago.

!snap

[DACrowe]

I liked how Anakin went out in Episode III (unless you are ferring to those two or three Jedi who just stood there waiting to get skewered by Palpatine in the Mace Windu vs. Palpatine office fight).

It was Anakin's acchilles heel (and Achilles was an arrogant ******* to according to the story). HE trusted his power so much he ignored basic trainning and rules of engagement assuming he was invincible and got sloppy and made a simple mistake that was pointed out to him before he made it. And Obi-Wan won the fight because of Anakin's arrogance with a simple swipe that I'm sure was one of the first rules of lightsabre fighting Obi-Wan warned Anakin about.

[Matt]

Snap-hiss...I'd like to say this in words youll understand...

"I sense much nerdiness in you. Nerdiness leads to inactivity. Inactivity leads to obescity. Obescity leads to Virginity."

[Flexo]

I made that for some idiots on a SW board two Easters ago.

!snap

No, the easter egg thing was stupid, I was talking about your previous comment. Heh, the PT being great films, it makes me laugh just thinking people believe that.

[snap-hiss]

Snap-hiss...I'd like to say this in words youll understand...

"I sense much nerdiness in you. Nerdiness leads to inactivity. Inactivity leads to obescity. Obescity leads to Virginity."

Do not assume that because I love Star Wars, and my user name is onomatopoetic that I am overweight and do not get laid, and I will not assume that because you post on a Super Hero board that you have a small penis.

!snap

[DACrowe]

It goes nowhere. The franchise is over.

Accept it.

And the TV show won't last, but as I said the movie franchise over.

[Matt]

Do not assume that because I love Star Wars, and my user name is onomatopoetic that I am overweight and do not get laid, and I will not assume that because you post on a Super Hero board that you have a small penis.

!snap

You'll find once you pass the age of 15, claiming one has a small Penis is not as insulting as you think.

[snap-hiss]

You'll find once you pass the age of 15, claiming one has a small Penis is not as insulting as you think.

Sterotypes are often incorrect. Not all those who cling to super heros have a male inferiority complex, and not all those who like Star Wars are fat losers.

!snap

[snap-hiss]

I'd love to continue this, but I have been drinking and I fear that my edge is surely dull, and thus I may make a fool of myself by not being in top shape.

!snap

[Knightsaber Priss]

How about the TV Series?

[Victor Von Doom]

This thread has taken a wierd turn. Lol

[snap-hiss]

This thread has taken a wierd turn. Lol

Yeah really... let's talk more about Star Wars, not my love life.

!nsap

[Dr.Fear]

alright i made this thread sweet

[Matt]

thus I may make a fool of myself
!snap

You already did that when you said Episode I and II are good ;)

[Paradoxium]

Referencing Point

16:29, 22nd May 2005 -- Thread merged with 'Have you noticed?'.

16:36, 22nd May 2005 -- Thread merged with '64 Reasons to Hate Starwars Episode 2'.

16:43, 22nd May 2005 -- Thread merged with 'Reasons for not watching ROTS.'.

19:18, 22nd May 2005 -- Thread merged with 'Do you think Lucas...'.

19:19, 22nd May 2005 -- Thread merged with 'Stand up and shout "amen" if you love Star Wars: ROTS!'.

23:37, 22nd May 2005 -- Thread merged with 'Now that we've all seen episode 3 what next?'.

23:39, 22nd May 2005 -- Thread merged with 'im watching phantom menace'.

[guitarsingerguy]

Now from what I understand about the TV series is that its supposed to take place inbetween ROTS and ANH, but have absolutely nothing to do with any of the noteable characters. Does anyone have any ideas how they expect to do this?

[Victor Von Doom]

I have no idea, but it can be done well. Think Jedi's forced to exile that are constantly on the run from Sith assassins. I'm envisioning lot's of bounty hunter chases, maybe some dark Jedi chases, but no sith lord fights. I think Yoda says there are only two at a time, no more, no less.

[snap-hiss]

Now from what I understand about the TV series is that its supposed to take place inbetween ROTS and ANH, but have absolutely nothing to do with any of the noteable characters. Does anyone have any ideas how they expect to do this?

We're not really sure, though at celebration Lucas said it wasn't any main characters then said, wait that's not relaly true, so maybe some of the not so main characters are involved liek chewie.. whoknows.

!snap

[guitarsingerguy]

I have no idea, but it can be done well. Think Jedi's forced to exile that are constantly on the run from Sith assassins. I'm envisioning lot's of bounty hunter chases, maybe some dark Jedi chases, but no sith lord fights. I think Yoda says there are only two at a time, no more, no less.

I think that would be pretty cool, but how many Jedi could have actually gotten away?

[Victor Von Doom]

I can't see there being an appearance from any other main characters except maybe yoda. I can see characters going to seek guidance from him when they learn of his whereabouts.

[Victor Von Doom]

And as for Jedi still being alive, i can see there being a good amount. I mean hey, they got 20 years to hun em down. I'll say 50.

[Knightsaber Priss]

I just want to know why they let Jar Jar live? :( I hope it's not to plague future Star Wars projects.

[guitarsingerguy]

I just want to know why they let Jar Jar live? :( I hope it's not to plague future Star Wars projects.

I doubt it very seriously. You'll probably never see Jar Jar again.

[JcDc]

That is why I think Episode I should have started the Clone Wars, Episode II should've ended the Clone Wars and Episode III could've had the birth of vader, the death of the jedi, and Obi-Wan learning the ghost, Yoda deciding where to exile, etc.


I've been saying that for a while gmta :up:

[DACrowe]

Luke was not nearly as well trained as Anakin was. But Luke learned almost as much much faster. That tells me Luke is more powerful in the force. He is also a stronger person and wiser. Vader (before the suit) lost because of arrogance. It is a simple rule not to try and jump someone with the higher ground. He'd probably do something that stupid against Luke too knowing his arrogance.

The reason Luke's sword skills look so different is that he was choreographed with a more realistic sword skill (as was Prowse's Vader) and not CGi sped up fancy twirling, pointless fighting that pollutes Ep. II & III (the fight wit hMaul was actually a well choregraphed and thought out fight, about the only one in the prequels).



Here is a question I have about the gap:

Obi-Wan is about 20 in Ep. I and therefore 30 in Ep. II and thus 33-35 in Ep. III. That makes him 55 or less (likely around 53, but some would speculate even around 50 or 51). So how come he likes like an old man in his late '60s or early '70s in ANH?

Plot hole?

[JackBauer]

Here is a question I have about the gap:

Obi-Wan is about 20 in Ep. I and therefore 30 in Ep. II and thus 33-35 in Ep. III. That makes him 55 or less (likely around 53, but some would speculate even around 50 or 51). So how come he likes like an old man in his late '60s or early '70s in ANH?

Plot hole?

wait long enough and you're certain to have someone using the Force as an excuse to that.

either that or something like "it's a galaxy far, far away! maybe they age faster!" :p :D

[Daisy]

Luke was not nearly as well trained as Anakin was. But Luke learned almost as much much faster. That tells me Luke is more powerful in the force. He is also a stronger person and wiser. Vader (before the suit) lost because of arrogance. It is a simple rule not to try and jump someone with the higher ground. He'd probably do something that stupid against Luke too knowing his arrogance.

The reason Luke's sword skills look so different is that he was choreographed with a more realistic sword skill (as was Prowse's Vader) and not CGi sped up fancy twirling, pointless fighting that pollutes Ep. II & III (the fight wit hMaul was actually a well choregraphed and thought out fight, about the only one in the prequels).



Here is a question I have about the gap:

Obi-Wan is about 20 in Ep. I and therefore 30 in Ep. II and thus 33-35 in Ep. III. That makes him 55 or less (likely around 53, but some would speculate even around 50 or 51). So how come he likes like an old man in his late '60s or early '70s in ANH?

Plot hole?

How do you know what he "looks like" in ANH? It's not like we see his face or anything. He certainly doesn't move or act like he's that old.

Besides, even if we did see him, don't you think the damage/scars would make him look older than he actually is.

Not to mention you could argue that Vader's kinda lived a hard life.

Although with the helmet and all, he has been protected from sun-damage that causes premature aging. :D

[JackBauer]

How do you know what he "looks like" in ANH? It's not like we see his face or anything. He certainly doesn't move or act like he's that old.

Besides, even if we did see him, don't you think the damage/scars would make him look older than he actually is.

Not to mention you could argue that Vader's kinda lived a hard life.

read his question again

[DACrowe]

Well he was all grey and certainly did not look like a man in his early 50s. Take into account how old Alec Guiness was as well when he played Obi-Wan. And then if we bring back in fighting skill he is certainly moving a lot slower and weaker in his sword fight in ANH as opposed to how he was moving in ROTS or in any of the prequels.

But "maybe they do age faster." Maybe that explains how Owen Lars is Anakin's half-brother but in a 10 year gap is almost as old as a 20 year old Anakin LOL!

[Daisy]

read his question again

Lord it's late! Somehow I read that as Anakin. :confused:

Well, Obi-Wan has been on a hot dry planet with two suns for about 20 years... and HE didn't use sunscreen. :p

[DACrowe]

Nevermind.

[Daisy]

Well he was all grey and certainly did not look like a man in his early 50s. Take into account how old Alec Guiness was as well when he played Obi-Wan. And then if we bring back in fighting skill he is certainly moving a lot slower and weaker in his sword fight in ANH as opposed to how he was moving in ROTS or in any of the prequels.

But "maybe they do age faster." Maybe that explains how Owen Lars is Anakin's half-brother but in a 10 year gap is almost as old as a 20 year old Anakin LOL!

Just wait and see how much slower you move when you're 50-something compared to 30-something. ;)

Step-brother, not half-brother.

From starwars.com databank: "At the behest of Obi-Wan Kenobi, Owen and Beru were made the wards of Luke Skywalker, the son of Owen's stepbrother, Anakin."

[pickleweed]

in ANH, one of the generals made references to the force being an ancient religion. 19 years isnt ancient george.

it took them 19 years to finish the first death star, buut only how long for the second?

[DACrowe]

As to similarities I saw about Bush.

I think that Lucas just put these in as he wrote the script because some are very obvious:

-Giving up rights to "protect the citizens for a safer society" aka The Patriot Act and people like Rumsfeld and other members saying "torture is okay."

The whole joke of people saying "you're a terrorist" if you don't support the war with the "you're a sepratist."

Then there is how Bush won his re-election ran on people's fear and a war and 9/11, just as Chancellor Palpatine took more and more power using the war as his excuse.

And besides the "sepratist" line, this is the only one I am sure was a jab at Bush that went "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" after he said if you are not with me you are my enemy. Which is basically what Bush has said about Europe, the UN, and other countries. Though nations that actaully harbor terrorists give us oil so they are A-OK with him then.


Not to turn political. I agree with snap! that most of them are errie coincidences and very telling as how many people notice them. But I think the "You're a sepratist" and the "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" are strong jabs at the Republicans at this country. Do remember Mr. Lucas is is quite liberal after all.

Oh well. It'd be great if in '06 we see some bumper stickers based on some lines in ROTS LOL! I think most of it is coincdence though but a sad satement about Americans in today's age if a story in a fictional fantasy loosley based on the rise of Hitler and Caesar can remind them of their modern president.

As I said (many a time), oh well.

[The Green Goblin]

in ANH, one of the generals made references to the force being an ancient religion. 19 years isnt ancient george.

Its rooted in beliefs from thousands of years ago and not practiced by any ordinary person even in the period 19 years prior. Sorry, but that can be considered "ancient".


it took them 19 years to finish the first death star, buut only how long for the second?

Bet the second and third pyramids were built quicker and easier than the first.

[Timstuff]

Ep 1 was sat 32 years before ep 4.
Ep 2 was set 22 years before ep 4
Ep 3 was set 19 years before ep 4

So, 19 years between eps 3 and 4. They could base the TV series on it. Forget the lesser characters.

Me and my brothers are writing a TV pilot script about young Han Solo. He'd be about 18, and the series would show how he met Chewbacca, became a smuggler, won the Falcon from Lando, etc. There'd be alot of story-arch episodes, in between those the episodes would be "mini-movie" format. If you've never seen the show you can just drop in and see one of Han's adventures, and not have to worry about being familiar with what's going one.

Han would be played by a young, un-known actor, but they'd have to find someone who looks like young Harrison Ford. I'm thinking someone kinda like River Phoenix from Indiana Jones and the Last Cruisade, only younger and, well, less dead. But you get the basic idea of what kind of actor would be in it.

I'm doubtful that Peter Mayhew would want to do a weekly TV series as Chewbacca though. I'm guessing they'd have to find someone who's a similar height and build, only younger and more flexible in terms of working conditions. It'd be really hard to track such a person down, but I'm sure he's out there, somewhere.

[spiderman boy]

I have a question for a story i've been writing. How old is:

Qui-Gon in Ep. 1?
Obi Wan in Ep. 2?
Count Dooku in Ep. 2?
Palpatine in Ep. 2?
Mace in Ep.2?

I need to know for a back story, so i needed to know their ages. help would be most appreciated.

[Rage]

My guess is that Obi wan is about...
24 in Ep. I
34 in Ep. II
38 in EP. III
57 in Ep. IV

Now Alec Guiness was 62 ( I believe) when he shot Star Wars...so that is a 5 year miss...but that can easily be explained by the harsh living conditions of being a hermit on Tatooine.

Rage

[gspot]

:joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

How about we ask Lucas what the answer is:

Then we will get to the third film, where he is seduced to the dark side, which brings up to films four, five, and six, where Anakin's offspring redeem him allowing him to fulfill the prophecy where he brings balance to the Force by doing away with the Sith and getting rid of evil in the universe.

George Lucas, Episode IV A New Hope, 2000 US VHS, "making of Episode II"

!snap

Lucas has changed his mind so many damn times about Star Wars you can't hold him to anything. Originally ObiWan brought Luke to HIS OWN brother Owen Lars - not Anakin's half brother Owen.

And Yoda HIMSELF - in ROTS casts doubt on the validity of their INTERPRETATION of the prophecy. What does balance mean? Well - no one can be sure. So grow up.

And Anakin doesn't destroy the Sith - even in Jedi. The Emperor isn't dead. He lives past it. As do other Sith Lords that arise after him. So the death of the Sith is NOT the balance referred to. It simply doesn't happen. The balance must mean something else.

[The Amazing Lee]

What is the time difference between episodes 4,5 and 6. I've always wondered that. :confused:

[Swordmaster]

I wouldnt mind adding Battle of the Heroes to othe Vader/Obi-Wa duel, but that's it

[snap-hiss]

And Anakin doesn't destroy the Sith - even in Jedi. The Emperor isn't dead. He lives past it. As do other Sith Lords that arise after him. So the death of the Sith is NOT the balance referred to. It simply doesn't happen. The balance must mean something else.

You can keep living in a fantasy world where that is the case, but that doesn't make it correct. Anakin destroys the Sith, period. This is central to the story, and can not be contradicted by a book or comic or whatever you're getting that filth from.

And Yoda HIMSELF - in ROTS casts doubt on the validity of their INTERPRETATION of the prophecy. What does balance mean? Well - no one can be sure. So grow up.

Yes, we can be sure, because Lucas has told us time and time again.

!snap

[snap-hiss]

I think most of it is coincdence though but a sad satement about Americans in today's age if a story in a fictional fantasy loosley based on the rise of Hitler and Caesar can remind them of their modern president.

Very sad indeed. The only thing more sad, I think, is some American's inability to see it.

!snap

[Pablo Parker]

I have a question, but i didn´t wanted to start yet another star wars thread for it. Where does Yoda come from... I mean, is there a planet or something with millions of little yodas...?

[Golgo-13]

Does anybody have the soundtrack? I really like the score that was played during order 66/the purge..is that on the soundtrack?

[The Caped Knight]

The main reason why I like Anakin/Vader vs. Obi-Wan (In Episode III) is you get to see The powers of The Force. the fight is both fast but very emontional,

It was one of the reason why in ROTJ, I like the battle between Luke vs. Vader more, than EBS. Because (ROTJ) had a very emontional, (Luke didn't want to fight his father, His father didn't want to kill him etc... So that's why ROTS battle between Anakin/Vader vs Obi-Wan is now my number 1 favorite.

[GREEN =w= DAY]

they should add all those deleted scenes that were not included :mad: i'm willing to wait another year or so because undoubtedly Lucas will want to release a box set of all 6 films.

[That-Guy]

Empire Strikes Back will always be my favorite film in the series and the duel in that one will always be the best, to me. A close second would be Return of the Jedi. I think the only reason I like the one in Empire better is because of the "I am your father" part. That scene is forever immortalized in cinema history, more so than any other part of Star Wars. I also voted for Episode III as well, because Obi-Wan vs. Anakin was pretty hardcore.

An honorable mention would be the last duel in Episode I, but it just doesn't compare to the others because its like one of the fight scenes in the Matrix Reloaded: a lot of ass kicking, but no dialogue or emotion (at least not until Qui-Gon dies... then it gets a little better). Just continuous pounding the crap out of each other.

[<(o_o)>]

I have a question, but i didn´t wanted to start yet another star wars thread for it. Where does Yoda come from... I mean, is there a planet or something with millions of little yodas...?

I always thought Yoda was an amphibian creature who came from the swamp lands.

[Milkman95]

The TV series will cover the 19 year gap between Episode III and IV. New actors will portray Vader and Kenobi of course......

[<(o_o)>]

http://www.acadiacom.net/vaderson/Yoda.htm

Like many of the ancient Jedi, Yoda's past remains a closely guarded
secret. According to Yoda's own words, he trained Jedi for more than
800 years, and it is known that he was about 900 upon his death. Yoda
proved a stern instructor and would only teach the most serious and
committed students. Among these was Obi-Wan Kenobi, a young and
reckless youth who proved incredibly strong in the Force.

While training his students, Yoda demanded that they improve their
bodies as well as their minds. Aspiring Jedi endured marathons and
learned to balance their bodies in strange ways. They also expanded
their abilities to levitate objects and sense the future.

Despite his vast power, Yoda was forced into hiding by Emperor
Palpatine's campaign against the Jedi. Yoda retreated to Dagobah,
where he kept careful watch over a sinister tree hollow that served as a
link to the dark side of the Force. On Dagobah, he subsisted on a diet
of roots, plants, fruits and fungi, and built his home of mud, sticks, and
stones. He also used the Force to monitor progress of Luke Skywalker
and Leia Organa, the children of the Dark Lord of the Sith, Darth Vader.

Eventually, Luke found his way to Dagobah and, after some debate,
Yoda agreed to teach the boy. During the arduous training, Yoda
lectured young Skywalker about the Force while Luke performed
rigorous physical and mental exercises. As part of his teachings, Yoda
warned Luke of the dark side, which had claimed Vader.

As his powers expanded, Luke learned to glimpse the future and
discovered that his friends were in great danger. Despite Yoda's
advice, Luke left Dagobah and traveled to Cloud City. There, Luke
almost fell victim to Vader, much as Yoda had feared.

A year later, Luke returned to Dagobah to continute his training with
Yoda. The venerated Jedi Master, however, was near death. He
informed Luke that he had to confront Vader once more before he
passed away. A short time later, after the Battle of Endor, Yoda,
Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Anakin Skywalker, appeared before Luke as
luminescent beings at one with the Force.



The Jedi Master Yoda lived to be approximately nine hundred years old before he finally died. For most of those years, Yoda served as mentor and teacher to Jedi Knights. A member of an as-yet undetermined alien species, Yoda spent his last years in seclusion, hiding from the eyes of the Emperor on the swamp planet Dagobah. Two of his best students were Obi-Wan Kenobi and Luke Skywalker.

[That-Guy]

But why did Anakin still have a blue one once he turned to the Sith? I think it would have made him a lot more evil and intimidating if he had a red one; just my opinion. I personally think the only reason he didn't is because a red lightsaber wouldn't have stood out as much against the red lava backdrop.

[Erzengel]

I don't think he had the time to craft one.

[That-Guy]

Well, yeah, I'm sure he didn't, but Sidious certainly had plenty of time. Think about how great a scene could have been where he presented him his red light saber.

[Goldenage Batman]

Sidious vs Yoda....Greatest fight ever.....

[roach]

Well, yeah, I'm sure he didn't, but Sidious certainly had plenty of time. Think about how great a scene could have been where he presented him his red light saber.

yeah but then how would Obi-Wan get his saber to give to Luke.

[Erzengel]

Do you feel that Jedi's keep too many secrets? Yoda knew it was Anakin and didn't come out and tell Obi-Wan. Yoda and Obi-Wan knew Vader was Luke's father.

Are they protecting them or keeping knowledge that they are not ready to learn?

[SPIDER-BONE]

A light saber's color is determined by the crystal that was used during is construction. The jedi as part of their training build their own saber using natural cyrstals found on Illum. As stated by an earlier poster jedi sabers are either green or blue. Mace only got a purple saber as a favor from Lucas to Sam Jackson. The in galaxy explanation being he found a very rare crystal that produced a purple blade. The sith use synthetic red crystal that obviously produce a red blade. Anakin/Vader had not had time to build a new Sith saber before being dispatched to Mustafar, nor did Sidious present him with one when he received his new sith name. Which I think would have been cool. I would assume Ventress from the clone wars cartoon got her blue and green sabers from jedi she had bested.

[Kabuki_Jo]

His mistake was in making Anakin out be so "powerful" in the first place. All that talk of a chosen one and mitichlroines (sic). The impression I got from the original Star Wars was that Anakin was more like Luke. He grew up being a starship pilot and for some odd reason this "Clone Wars" business wasn't going so well and Obi-Wan tapped him to go on some "fool crusade" with him and taught him the ways of the Jedi in the process and because he couldn't train him as well as Yoda (implying Yoda didn't lose students; he's a freaking MASTER and Obi-Wan was only supposed to be a Jedi Knight and that's the whole POINT there).

Anakin wasn't supposed to be that powerful. He chose the QUICK and EASY path of the Dark Side as a SHORTCUT and was seduced by its power (not tricked into joining it to try and save his wife; that's not seduction AT ALL). It wasn't that he was so powerful, but that he betrayed the Jedi and helped the Emporer to make them extent and hunted them down (I didn't see any hunting happening there). He LOST against Obi-Wan because Obi-Wan was his master at the time and he wasn't fully trained. This movie makes Anakin out to be vastly superior to Obi-Wan at the onset and then he somehow loses anyway. Anakin completes his training with the Emporer according to the original Star Wars and Darth Vader says, "When I left you I was but the learner. Now I am the master" implying he got his butt kicked because he wasn't fully trained, but this movie makes him a full fledged bonafied fully trained Jedi Knight that Obi-Wan even admits is better (more talented) than him in his one little speech. It doesn't jive with the original movie dialogue and that's why it falls apart. It also needlessly puts that scientific chlorine cell crap in there that largely defeats the religious nature of the Force and turns it into science instead.

They also wasted the first movie showin him as a kid and there was NO need for that. Ep III is rushed to address all the REAL story elements for Ep. IV-VI and it's too much for one movie to do it right. There shouldn't have been a Phantom Menace as such and II and III should have been I, II and III to properly cover it all and Anakin should have turned MUCH sooner and lost and then trained as a Sith and destroyed the remaining Jedi (somehow avoiding Obi-Wan as Vader at that point to deal with the learner line). That's the way I see it, at least. I just find it ironic that Lucas is responsible for those very lines in the original Star Wars and yet he doesn't even seem to understand his own story anymore....
Credits go to Pacdude.


Post your thoughts,

KJ

[The Lizard]

I'll agree with that.

A well-written in-depth examination of this issue can be read here:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=414961

[Truthteller]

I largely agree as well.

Episode III was definitely too rushed. EI could have been droped. I think Lucus was largely making it up as he went along and thats why EI was not tight and EIII was rushed. He left too much ground to cover in EIII.

And another thing. How toasty do you reckon it was on those lava flows? :rolleyes:

[GLREBORN]

I do not blame George, I think he was in a hopeless situation of trying to tie everything together but it does not work.

Phooney SW fans can have Episode III


Real Star Wars Fans can have Episodes I, II,IV,V, and VI.

[The Lizard]

Phoney SW fans can have Episode III


Real Star Wars Fans can have Episodes I, II,IV,V, and VI.

I'm trying to understand the "I" and "II" part of that statement. :confused:

[Addendum]

Instead of changing the Original Trilogy to fit with the Prequels, it should have been the other way around. Also, having someone other than Lucas be director would have helped

[black_dust]

"Oh yes ive written out all the star wars years ago"

Hmm yes Mr Lucas on a single side of paper maybe?

[Truthteller]

I'm trying to understand the "I" and "II" part of that statement. :confused:Me too. I actually think that Lucas did an OK job tieing up the Darth Vader story. There are the problems raised by the thread starter, but still not bad. Certainly not brillant either.

But really, the lava! What is with the recent love of lava in movies? We had it in Lord of the Rings and there it was somewhat realistic... but in ROTS it just went off the deep end. How toasty was it on those flows? Was the force protecting them from the heat?

[<(o_o)>]

I'm trying to understand the "I" and "II" part of that statement. :confused:

It's the roman numerals for one & two, so he liked the first 2 SW movies & then then original 3.

[<(o_o)>]

What if the light sabers had changed colors based on what mood the person was in.

The light saber blades are usually 3 to 4 ft. in length, but what keeps them from going on & on? If the blade is nothing more than a laser beam, then how was Darth Maul's 2 sided saber staff able to be damaged?

[SPIDER-BONE]

What if the light sabers had changed colors based on what mood the person was in.

The light saber blades are usually 3 to 4 ft. in length, but what keeps them from going on & on? If the blade is nothing more than a laser beam, then how was Darth Maul's 2 sided saber staff able to be damaged?

Well the question of why they don't extend forever can only be chalked up to a galaxy far far away has different laws of physics. Nor sure if understand your question about Maul's saber. It was not one continous blade with a handle in the middle. It was more like two light sabers connected hilt-to-hilt. Which is why it was able function after it was cut in half. Each blade works independently.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Light Sabres are not Mood-Rings. :rolleyes:
The color's determined by the crystal inside. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[The Green Goblin]

They also wasted the first movie showin him as a kid and there was NO need for that.

KJ


There are several, but that ^ was the biggest IMO.

[The Lizard]

It's the roman numerals for one & two, so he liked the first 2 SW movies & then then original 3.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/TheLizard/angry.gif

[Erzengel]

Thought it was like a cracker jack box....oooh I got a blue one.

On a side note, I remember how jazzed I would get when I got tattoos in mine. :sigh: