The Venom Discussion

[TheSlag]

Not sure, as I've never seen him in such a role to judge his performance. Based on past roles (only), I think it's a lousy choice. But unfortunately, I have to admit when I heard Molina was cast as Octavius, I had some of the same fears. Not as much as I do with Grace, but some of the same fears. One big factor going against Grace IMO is, he is a completely different physical type from the Brock most fans know of. Molina, physically, fit the role, and acting wise, had more roles prior to Octavius than Grace has had, to make one less skittish about the casting.

I would love to be "surprised" by an out of the blue casting announcement for Brock, say after January, and at the same time find out Grace is someone else. I would love it (assuming they nailed it with who was cast as Brock)... but I doubt it, unfortunately. I think (fear??) Grace will be Brock.

[Arcturus]

The idea of Topher Brock does not sit with me. Eddie Brock is supposed to be big, muscular. Now I don't expect a terminator look-alike for the movie, but now we're just supposed to accept a string bean to be Eddie Brock? Curse it, this makes me mad. Oh sure, you can say that he'll buff up for SM-3, but somehow I don't see it.

I'm thrilled that Venom will either be in, or at least set up in SM-3, but im not thrilled that little emaciated freak will be Venom.

[TheSlag]

It's more about intensity (or lack of it) than body size for me, that has me worried about the choice of Topher as Brock... if that is in fact... the choice. ;)

[LarryLegend]

Yeah, while he doesn't have the physical look for Brock I'm more concerned with his ability to create the character. Have a hard time seeing him as anything but a smartass and wonder if audiences will struggle with this too.

[Arcturus]

I don't Topher Brock will have the intensity, I can't imagine hearing "I WILL KILL YOU PARKER!" in Tophers prepubescent voice.

[Gladiator]

Topher Brock
:confused: Is that Topher Grace and Eddie Brock's love child?........sorry I couldn't resist:O

Back on topic, I agree with Slag and Legend about the intensity factor. He has definitely proven he can be a smartass and is good with one liners. I still wish he was cast as Peter but thats another discussion. Maybe he has the versatility to pull it off. Hopefully he will prove his doubters wrong if he is indeed cast as Brock. Jumping way off topic for a second, I used to have the same feelings about Jamie Foxx. I always pictured him as a comedian and goofball, like in "In Living Color" and "Booty Call". But he definitely showed he had versatility in his roles in "Collateral" and "Ray", which I believe he won an Oscar for and the previews for "Jarhead" look pretty good.

[Frenzy]

It's more about intensity (or lack of it) than body size for me, that has me worried about the choice of Topher as Brock... if that is in fact... the choice. ;)


Have you played Ultimate Spidey? The more I play the game the more I convince myself they'll do the that version of Venom. I love the way Venom moves in the game and how he looks (ish - should be black) and especially the voice which is pretty 'alien' like the fox version. Eddie in the game is just an empty shell who fills screen time while we wait for Venoms next appearance. He's just a pretty boy with a face full of metal **** and bad coloured hair. About as intense as 'Villain Watch' and all their Bull****.

Apparently Villain Watch bumped into Mulder and Scully looking for 'the truth'. They're still looking!!!!!!!!! They found plenty of bull**** though. :venom:

[Arcturus]

Hello Official Venom Discussion thread, how are you doing on this fine day?

Very good.

*Bump*

:venom:

[Galvatron]

I can't believe that Topher Grace is going to be Eddie Brock! What are they smoking, the guy can't act! This is a travesty, it's very foolish that they would pull one over us like this, seriousily!

:down

[Arcturus]

^^^

Agreed, the idea is driving me nuts. I don't forsee Topher Brock being muscular or in shape. It's depressing, I wish that Rami and friends would lay of the crack.

:down

[Arcturus]

Okay, a thought occured to me.

Since I don't Carnage ever being in a Spider-Man movie, do you think just maybe that they might Carnage's abilitys to Venom to use a few times here and there while fighting spidey?

Remember, this is just a thought.

[Silver Sable]

Can you explain the question more clearer please?

[Arcturus]

Can you explain the question more clearer please?


I was a little drunk upon typing that earlier post, sorry for the confusion.

Okay, since I don't think Carnage will appear in a Spider-Man film, do you think that Venom will have Carnage's powers? Like forming weapons and tentacles etc.

Just an idea.

[Bicranial]

Like forming weapons and tentacles etc.

Just an idea.


Gosh. Isn't that what Sandman does, except with sand? How many guys doin' that in one movie can we handle? Why not bring in the dude from T2 while we're at it?

So, I'm sayin', I hope not.

[Galvatron]

Gosh. Isn't that what Sandman does, except with sand? How many guys doin' that in one movie can we handle? Why not bring in the dude from T2 while we're at it?

So, I'm sayin', I hope not.

Gosh, it was just an idea. No need to jump on his shoulders and scream like a monkey.

[Silver Sable]

I was a little drunk upon typing that earlier post, sorry for the confusion.

Okay, since I don't think Carnage will appear in a Spider-Man film, do you think that Venom will have Carnage's powers? Like forming weapons and tentacles etc.

Just an idea.

Tentacles maybe but weapons no

[daveswb]

I can't believe that Topher Grace is going to be Eddie Brock! What are they smoking, the guy can't act! This is a travesty, it's very foolish that they would pull one over us like this, seriousily!

:down


I don't know if it so much is a travesty as it is a different take on the character. I think they will have him as the dark version of Spiderman. A mirror of his powers and abilities. But Brock will most likely be the polar opposite of Peter. The bad guys bad guy.

I guess what I'm saying is if they are going to have somone like grace play brock, then give us a totally unique view on him. Don't try to copy him from the comic at all.

Again Ock in 2 was a completely unique take on the character. If they do that kind of thing again and do it well it won't be as bad as people are thinking.

[Arcturus]

Gosh. Isn't that what Sandman does, except with sand? How many guys doin' that in one movie can we handle? Why not bring in the dude from T2 while we're at it?

So, I'm sayin', I hope not.

We could also include clayface!

[Bicranial]

We could also include clayface!

Hey, now. Don't forget Mud-Thing!

[Arcturus]

Hey, now. Don't forget Mud-Thing!

lol! How could I forget, now who else is there? Hmmm.

[Arcturus]

Gosh, it was just an idea. No need to jump on his shoulders and scream like a monkey.

No it's cool, I was drunk when I posted the idea anyways. I don't want to see Venom forming weapons either, but I wouldn't mind him forming tendrils.

[Bicranial]

No it's cool, I was drunk when I posted the idea anyways. I don't want to see Venom forming weapons either, but I wouldn't mind him forming tendrils.


Thanks. And I really wasn't screaming. And who knows what Raimi will make Venom do? Cross-dressing and knitting seem like good possibilities. It would really make him more of a dynamic character.

[Symbiotica]

I don't want Venom to have Carnage's powers anyways :( We'll be doing good to get a decent Venom, much less a good Venom/Carnage hybrid.

No hybridizing the Red Menace. Especially by Raimi. That would just be so wrong.

[Arcturus]

I don't want Venom to have Carnage's powers anyways :( We'll be doing good to get a decent Venom, much less a good Venom/Carnage hybrid.

No hybridizing the Red Menace. Especially by Raimi. That would just be so wrong.

Im in agreement, Symbiotica.

[Galvatron]

No it's cool, I was drunk when I posted the idea anyways. I don't want to see Venom forming weapons either, but I wouldn't mind him forming tendrils.

I'm sorry for blurting that out, I was weak.

[Bicranial]

Yeah, but I can just see Raimi combining the two characters, a la Gwen and MJ, just so he doesn't have to do Carnage in the future. That might be a mistake. Let's face it, the only thing that trumps Venom is Carnage.

[Arcturus]

I'm sorry for blurting that out, I was weak.

No worries, it's cool. Everyone has a right.

:)

[Frenzy]

I've just finished to USm game and I conclude the following:-

"If Venom is as good in the film as he is in the game I personally will be very happy. As long as the Spidey>Venom link is established and Venoms powers are similair to the game I think he will look and move like nothing else we've seen in a Superhero film. He even gets the white chest spidey which is a token of him controlling the suit AND the link to Spidey's DNA. Hell, I'm a classic Brock fan throu and thru but I'm pr4epared to be open minded and let them update the origin to be more like USM. It makes more sense than an alien anyway PLUS it might get the films to touch on the fact that Peter was an orphaned child and his parents and Brocks were linked.

If you go with the game Topher makes the perfect Eddie Brock. The size thing is way more than a simple bulk up job so it's a CG / Ben Grimm suit job me thinks. Plus Topher can be revealed when the head rolls back. Very cool.

Venom looks awesome in the final scene when he roars and the 'tendril' things are shooting out of his back - FANTASTIC.

[spider-jide]

What was fantastic in one of the final scenes in the game was spider-man kicking venom's ass with extraordinary style after the whole trask/chopper incident. :up:

[Arcturus]

What was fantastic in one of the final scenes in the game was spider-man kicking venom's ass with extraordinary style after the whole trask/chopper incident. :up:

I agree, that part was awsome!

The entire final fight was just amazing, I found it to be an intense battle. The music even made it feel like a final confrontation between a hero and villain in a movie, if you know what I mean.

:up:

[borden2001]

didnt look like this ahs been addressed much. everybody is always talking about his tounge or teeth or saliva.drool but no one i saw has mentioned what voice they will give him. i like that in the animatedd series they gave him a kind of dual voice sound with almost a demonic tone to it. know what im talking about? If you watched the fox animated spiderman series u would. anyone have any idea what route they will go with when they finally put venom in a movie? even if it is SM3, SM4 or some other movie entirely?

[Jason Martell]

He should roar like a monster/dinosaur, and hiss kind of like those Aliens from the movie Aliens, and talk kind of like a cross between a snake and deep roar. I'm not explaining it right. It's almost impossible to explain how somebody's voice should be.

[Toren]

Have it switch between demonic, human, and a mix of the two... for times when Venom, Eddie, or there is a battle for control of the body (respectively).

[Jason Martell]

Yeah I want it demonic, but not robotic like it was in the cartoon. And I don't want it like it was in the Spider-Man game for Nintendo 64 either.

[psycho]

In Marvel Knights Spider-man: The last stand, the description of his voce is that he has a double sound voice, something like two people yelling into a loudspeaker.
I think that might sound pretty cool.

[Dr.Dude]

There's a lot of different tones of voice I can see working, but mainly I just want to see his voice "echo" as if two voices are speaking at the same time. Maybe have one of these voices be a hissing, slithering, "snake-like" voice while the other is more human-sounding, but since both are combined you would only notice the difference if you payed attention closely.... to follow through on that, depending on Venom's mood one voice could subtly become stronger and more noticeable than the other; for example, if he got really pissed off the snake-like, alien voice would sort of take over, whereas if he showed any vulnerability the human one would be heard more easily.

[darkhold]

basically do the same thing they did with scarecrows voice in batman begins

[borden2001]

basically do the same thing they did with scarecrows voice in batman begins
that wouldnt be terrible i guess

[craigaat]

He should sound like Batman from BB, lol

[Axl Z]

like schwarzenegger - "ice to see you"

[XSpidercideX]

They need a vocalist from a death metal band to do his voice.

[BruceWayne05]

it should basically be the male version of mystique, but with a slightly deeper voice

[Jason Martell]

That's what some people are describing, but I don't want that. I want a slobbery voice, demonic, who can roar like a wild animal at times. I am trying to think if there is any movies that have something like what I'm thinking.

[Venom'sDad]

That's what some people are describing, but I don't want that. I want a slobbery voice, demonic, who can roar like a wild animal at times. I am trying to think if there is any movies that have something like what I'm thinking.

I'm a big LOTR fan... so obvious I would say he should sound like Sauron

[Edokun]

Going through 72 pages of back-thread is much, so I'm not sure if this tidbit of Spiderman (movie 1) has been addressed: But wasn't Eddie introduced then?

According to the imdb:
R.C. Everbeck Spider-Man (2002) (uncredited) .... Eddie Brock

Too bad Raimi didn't recast Everbeck back into the role than to get a new actor (unless that's secretly in the works), despite what he has said about the Venom chr in the past. Unless his scene got cut, that's one massive continuity error from the first movie to third. All I have to say is, Bad Raimi. No cookie for you!

[Arcturus]

*Bump*

Because I care.

[Saph]

David Boreanaz
http://rhiannon.dreamhost.com/angel/gifs/gallery/david11.jpg

Is this the person that played Benvolio in Romeo+Juliet?

[chazzared]

This has probably been mention and i know t isn't them most reliable source but i thought all of you should have a butchers
http://www.20six.co.uk/pub/Chazzared/tgrace.bmp

[Compi716]

IMDB is extremely unreliable. They report every little rumor they hear.

[Dr Doom]

A BUTCHERS?

AND ANYBODY CAN ADD CASTING INFO ON IMDB.

[willi-jay]

Come guys, the only guy that could ever play venom is...The Boz!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/11/SC2Boz.JPG/215px-SC2Boz.JPG

[Genosha]

Yeah, but I can just see Raimi combining the two characters, a la Gwen and MJ, just so he doesn't have to do Carnage in the future. That might be a mistake. Let's face it, the only thing that trumps Venom is Carnage.


I don't see Carnage making it in a Spidey movie. Raimi has already backed himself in a corner when it comes to putting another Goblin onscreen. I don't think he wants to repeat that with another alien symbiote down the line.

[Bicranial]

I don't see Carnage making it in a Spidey movie. Raimi has already backed himself in a corner when it comes to putting another Goblin onscreen. I don't think he wants to repeat that with another alien symbiote down the line.


I really don't want to see Carnage. I think one symbiote is more than enough. My argument was that when you introduce Venom, you approach the end of the Spider-Man continuum, which I don't want to see.

[chosen1]

Will they use the black symbiote story for venom coming from outer space or will they go w/ the cancer curing suit?

Will peter ever where the suit in the movie or not?

Ive got a bad feeling about this....

[Ultimate Doom]

peter HAS to use the suit because otherwise venom woudnt know anything about peters secrets about who he is and who he loves. Im just curious what the suit will look like and same with venom. Not sure where they will go with the origin though.

[Warhammer]

This is the exact reason why Venom wouldnt work in this movie. No venom equals good movie. Sandman and a possible Goblin are good enough. I have been waiting for the Goblin myself since the cliffhanger on spider-man 2.

Goblin/Sandman :up:
Venom (not for this one kids, but i do like Venom) :down

[Jason Martell]

Peter has to wear the suit. Raimi would be stupid not to have Peter wear the suit and waste a great story line, and water down Venom at the same time.

and I believe it should be from outer space.

[Warhammer]

well, if all of that were to happen, then venom couldnt be in spider-man 3. We still have Sandman and a possible Goblin in this movie. Too many things for one movie.

Goblin/Sandman :up:
No Venom :down

[Jason Martell]

I think this movie will be like 3 hours long, and we could have Venom in this movie, and make it work. Look at Batman Begins we had Batman, ScareCrow, Ras Ah Guhl, and that Malconi guy or whatever his name is.

[Silver Sable]

I think this movie will be like 3 hours long, and we could have Venom in this movie, and make it work. Look at Batman Begins we had Batman, ScareCrow, Ras Ah Guhl, and that Malconi guy or whatever his name is.

Falcone

[chazzared]

I apologize for my previous spelling mistakes as i have to use quick reply because the normal reply won't work for me, therefore i can't use the edit feature. And now for an english class:-
In cockney rhyming slang, butchers means look. Butcher = butcher's hook = look.
Sometimes it's referred to as Pat, after a character from Eastenders called Pat Butcher

[Saph]

I think this movie will be like 3 hours long, and we could have Venom in this movie, and make it work. Look at Batman Begins we had Batman, ScareCrow, Ras Ah Guhl, and that Malconi guy or whatever his name is.There's a difference, they were all connected. Ra's Al Ghul is disguising his plot with drug shipments that contain the special toxin requited for the Scarecrow's fear gas, in turn Scarecrow is putting the liquid form of his gas in the water supply. To get the drugs to Gotham safely, the Scarecrow hires Falcone's men to retrieve the drug shipment.

How will the Goblin, who wants to kill Peter because he believes Spider-Man killed his father, Sandman, whose purpouses are unknown but if you go by the comics all he wants is money, and Venom who hates Parker because he was outclassed by him as brock and was rejected by him as the symbiote, fit together?

[Genosha]

I really don't want to see Carnage. I think one symbiote is more than enough. My argument was that when you introduce Venom, you approach the end of the Spider-Man continuum, which I don't want to see.

I agree. Good point! Venom should almost be the last villian to be used in the Spidey movies.

He is like the ultimate adversary and a good way to end the series with a bang. I know you still have to resolve the Harry Osborn/Goblins storyline and they should do that in 3, but after Venom is used I just don't see who else they could get to face Spidey that could approach him on an epic level.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have 6 Spidey movies. And I do think the Lizard, Electro, and Mysterio could provide some fireworks. I just want Venom for Spidey's final battle.

[Bicranial]

I agree. Good point! Venom should almost be the last villian to be used in the Spidey movies.

He is like the ultimate adversary and a good way to end the series with a bang. I know you still have to resolve the Harry Osborn/Goblins storyline and they should do that in 3, but after Venom is used I just don't see who else they could get to face Spidey that could approach him on an epic level.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have 6 Spidey movies. And I do think the Lizard, Electro, and Mysterio could provide some fireworks. I just want Venom for Spidey's final battle.

Exactly. That's why you can't have Venom for 3. Introduce Eddie, maybe, and the symbiote, possibly. But Venom needs his own movie. The only way I could handle a villain superseding Venom is if it's LOTS of villains. Sinister Six in Spidey 6!

[Symbiotica]

There's a difference, they were all connected. Ra's Al Ghul is disguising his plot with drug shipments that contain the special toxin requited for the Scarecrow's fear gas, in turn Scarecrow is putting the liquid form of his gas in the water supply. To get the drugs to Gotham safely, the Scarecrow hires Falcone's men to retrieve the drug shipment.

What really rang my chimes about all that was, this guy Crane was a doctor, right? Doctors are not exactly stupid people, and they know chemistry; but here's this guy flushing the liquid form of his fear-dust [or whatever] into the water supply, without so much as one test-run to see if that would actually work. Gallons and gallons and truckloads, completely wasted. What a dingbat! That really rang false with me, because Crane did not seem like a stupid man at all. He was brilliant.

How will the Goblin, who wants to kill Peter because he believes Spider-Man killed his father, Sandman, whose purpouses are unknown but if you go by the comics all he wants is money, and Venom who hates Parker because he was outclassed by him as brock and was rejected by him as the symbiote, fit together?

If we play our cards right... they WON'T fit together :D

[Fathermithras]

What really rang my chimes about all that was, this guy Crane was a doctor, right? Doctors are not exactly stupid people, and they know chemistry; but here's this guy flushing the liquid form of his fear-dust [or whatever] into the water supply, without so much as one test-run to see if that would actually work. Gallons and gallons and truckloads, completely wasted. What a dingbat! That really rang false with me, because Crane did not seem like a stupid man at all. He was brilliant.


Why would they waste time and show him testing it? He already apparently had been using it SINCE HE USED IT AS A WEAPON IN THE MOVIE. So, he did test it and knew it worked.

[Symbiotica]

Why would they waste time and show him testing it? He already apparently had been using it SINCE HE USED IT AS A WEAPON IN THE MOVIE. So, he did test it and knew it worked.

You have not thought this all the way through: it was in use IN PARTICULATE FORM. He has NOT been using it delivered in an aqueous agent [water]. Some things lose their efficacy when you change the mode of delivery: in fact this is true of the vast majority of drugs, and if there's one thing any doctor knows first and foremost, it's that basic fact.

So again I cry "foul," "poor logic!" or what-have-you: anyone as smart as Crane would have tested that right off to see if it would work first. Hell, he had an asylum-full of guinea-pigs to whom he could have slipped a glass of adulterated water to at dinner-time, and then stood back and observed the effects [if any.]

Back to Venom! Venom is 3 is still the worst of all bad ideas, when we already have everyone but the kitchen sink in the cast. :)

[Timstuff]

I was thinking that maybe Peter could be attacked by the symbiot somehow and it tries to attach itself to him, but somehow he manages to get it off and cause it to run away. That would explain how it knows how to copy him, but you don't have to go through the whole "Check out my new black costume! Eww, it's evil, I'm throwing it away!" ordeal.

[Arcturus]

All in all, this is just another bump in the thread.

[BlackSpidey718]

I Personally Feel They Should Bring The Black Costume In 3 To Help Spidey Then At The End Get Rid Of It Showing It Attach Its self To Brock. Then In SM4 Have Venom Having His Offspring not just Carnage, But The Whole Bunch. This Would By Far be the greatest challange spidey would ever face and great to end the SM franchise

[venomadness]

I Personally Feel They Should Bring The Black Costume In 3 To Help Spidey Then At The End Get Rid Of It Showing It Attach Its self To Brock. Then In SM4 Have Venom Having His Offspring not just Carnage, But The Whole Bunch. This Would By Far be the greatest challange spidey would ever face and great to end the SM franchise

That is a bad idea. Too many characters to keep track of. I agree on your idea of Spiderman 3, but Spiderman 4 should be an all out brawl between Spidey and Venom...like in Amazing Spiderman 375.

[Arcturus]

*Bump*

Jesus loves us all.

[d_fly_jr]

In all honesty, I thin they're probably gonna introduce Topher Grace as Eddie Brock to set up Venom for SM4, which isn't a half-bad idea.

As for where the suit should come from: the lab, not outer space. I love Venom as much as the next Spider-Man fan, but I really dig the Ultimate version. There'sa a much deeper problem for Spider-Man to fight Venom, because he is a childhood friend.

[Bicranial]

And we have to wonder if alien symbiotes are part of what Raimi envisions for a viable storyline. He's made Spidey pretty believable (not totally) up until now, and I hope he continues down that road.

[the Firestarter]

i think the setup for venom should occur in this movie. imho spiderman should battle only the Green Goblin 2 and Sandman in this film. perhaps one of the battles spiderman should have the symbiote assist him in his victory. after spiderman discards the symbiote it will find it's next host & there should be a minor reveal of venom at the end of the film.

[Ghostvirus]

If they just Introduce Venom in this film. It will end up like Jason Goes To Hell, when freddy grabbed the mask.

There is no Gauranteed 4th film. Pretty much everyone involved with the film has been pretty shady with talking about a 4th one. So therefore to tease a huge fanboy Character like that would be just wrong.

[spyderman2k4]

I'm rather torn on this idea... and before people question my credibility that I've got under 10 posts... that just means I recently got an account so I CAN post (just like all of you did at one time or another...) I've been a fan nearly my whole life and I've read these boards for some time. Back to business... I think Venom is an amazing character, and if done properly, could cause for some awesome cinematography. Naturally, he should be in the movies, he's a sure money maker. But that IS a lot of story to tell in one movie. It COULD be done, probably depending on the origin they choose. I know that recasting turns me off, and this is probably the last movie these individuals do, so should Sony make it count and get sure ticket sales with Venom while they can? It would be hard to get things done right, but I say they go for it.

[TheSlag]

I'm rather torn on this idea... and before people question my credibility that I've got under 10 posts... that just means I recently got an account so I CAN post (just like all of you did at one time or another...) I've been a fan nearly my whole life and I've read these boards for some time. Back to business... I think Venom is an amazing character, and if done properly, could cause for some awesome cinematography. Naturally, he should be in the movies, he's a sure money maker. But that IS a lot of story to tell in one movie. It COULD be done, probably depending on the origin they choose. I know that recasting turns me off, and this is probably the last movie these individuals do, so should Sony make it count and get sure ticket sales with Venom while they can? It would be hard to get things done right, but I say they go for it.

Seems like an awful big risk for a short term payout. That being, basically the death of a franchise for the short term payout in SM3. Too soon for Venom, both from a business standpoint, and the standpoint to do his story justice, as well as the completion of Harry's story.

And as far as recasting, I think most (if not all) of the parties will be back for SM4. Kirsten/MJ being the lone long shot IMO... and that includes Raimi too, as he's backed off his threats of SM3 being his last, even to the point of going full circle and openly campaigning for future SM movies. Good thing or not? There's the $64 question IMO.

[Jin Saotome]

I don't think it's too soon for Venom. If he doesn't do well, no loss and they put other villains in #4. If he he's spectacularly popular, toss him in the 4th against Carnage.

Personally I think Venom is too much of a villan for Spiderman to handle on his own and they should do a reversal of plots. Instead of having more than one villan show up (like in the Batman movies) have more than one hero, ala BlackCat.

[TheSlag]

I don't think it's too soon for Venom. If he doesn't do well, no loss and they put other villains in #4. If he he's spectacularly popular, toss him in the 4th against Carnage.

Personally I think Venom is too much of a villan for Spiderman to handle on his own and they should do a reversal of plots. Instead of having more than one villan show up (like in the Batman movies) have more than one hero, ala BlackCat.

Yes... cause Black Crappy would be such a BIG help against the likes of Venom. :rolleyes:

[Frenzy]

Spider-Man doesn't need a 'pardner' me thinks, and as for that being Black Cat - I'd rather cut my own balls off and eat them!!!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't mind Johnny Storm making a brief cameo (is that possible with the studios and stuff?) to help our Hero out though - BUT THIS IS SPIDEYS MOVIE....................end.

[Frenzy]

By the way - why is there only me on this page with a signature?

Not that I'm paranoid or owt.

[spyderman2k4]

Seems like an awful big risk for a short term payout. That being, basically the death of a franchise for the short term payout in SM3. Too soon for Venom, both from a business standpoint, and the standpoint to do his story justice, as well as the completion of Harry's story.

And as far as recasting, I think most (if not all) of the parties will be back for SM4. Kirsten/MJ being the lone long shot IMO... and that includes Raimi too, as he's backed off his threats of SM3 being his last, even to the point of going full circle and openly campaigning for future SM movies. Good thing or not? There's the $64 question IMO.

If they could get everyone to sign for #4, then I say introduce the symbiote in this one, finish the Goblin story, and have Venom in 4. I think everyone views that as ideal. I agree that Venom needs more than one movie for his story to be told. I think Spider-Man using the symbiote to defeat sandman would be pretty sweet... If they can get a returning cast and crew for 4.

[Symbiotica]

I still refuse to take any talk of Venom seriously, because the -only- indicator of his presence we have is.... Kirsten Dunst. And everyone knows how reliable she's been in the past... sure. I'm takin' her really seriously.

Sorry all you who want the 70's kid as Venom; I still ain't buying it.

Yes... cause Black Crappy would be such a BIG help against the likes of Venom.

Now now, don't be like that! Give BC a chance! She does too have powers against Venom; if he showed up she could unzip her catsuit [pardon the pun] all the way and blind him with her pulchritude.

[Although should Gopher in fact turn out to be Venom, and BC does end up being in it - I am going to laugh so hard, I probably really will fall out of my chair, instead of just saying I do for sarcastic effect. :)]

[TheSlag]

If they could get everyone to sign for #4, then I say introduce the symbiote in this one, finish the Goblin story, and have Venom in 4. I think everyone views that as ideal. I agree that Venom needs more than one movie for his story to be told. I think Spider-Man using the symbiote to defeat sandman would be pretty sweet... If they can get a returning cast and crew for 4.

I agree that Venom in SM3 is too soon, and that the symbiote/Brock/Venom need more than one movie to tell their story properly. I would rather have Venom in SM5 myself, but I think SM4 is what it will work out to be. For Better... or for Worse.

[Weadazoid]

Question... not sure if has been thoroughly adressed in other threads..or perhas even this one.

If we do see Venom.... what type of Venom do you want to see..

Drooling with fangs... and green saliva... making it that much harder for him to talk...


or do you just want to see the that smile sometimes, peeling back from the black...

[venomadness]

If Venom appears in any movie, he should be frightening...that's his appeal. The tongue, teeth and drool are just part of him. Anything less would not do him justice. Just a smile would just make him Spiderman with a mouth. No thanks. Venom shouldn't be in a movie yet, but if he is, I'll be open to it. I'll just hope he gets his own movie after his appearance in SM3...and then pray to god that Carnage is the only other symbiote they introduce. The "offspring" and Hybrid and Toxin are all a joke and a product of the Symbiote Bandwagon. Venom and Carnage should appear together down the rode and duke it out. Scream and all of the other embarrassing symbiotes are what turned me off of Venom back in the day. I can't believe people still talk about them, hopefully I'll never see them come to life on the big screen.

Do any of you watch the show on FX called Prisonbreak??? There is a character played by Robert Knepper...he would make an excellent Cletus Kasady. He'd be a perfect Carnage. Absolutely perfect.

Anyways, yes, I'd want to see the tongue, teeth and drool.

[Silver Sable]

Can you post a pic of him please?

[Symbiotica]

Do any of you watch the show on FX called Prisonbreak??? There is a character played by Robert Knepper...he would make an excellent Cletus Kasady. He'd be a perfect Carnage. Absolutely perfect.

.... is that the redneck-pedophile guy, with red hair? If so, I have to agree. Oh my GOD that guy is nasty :) I thought he'd make a good Carnage from the first episode of the show I saw. The only problem is he's a little old for Cletus.

I wouldn't shed any tears to see him cast as Clete, though, even so. He is ONE EFFECTIVE VILLAIN. He'd just have to lose the cornpone accent. And like Cletus, he's a rather small, slender guy so he doesn't look like much of a physical threat... yeah, just don't turn your back on him!

[that is the only, only show I will turn on a t.v. to see.]

[Symbiotica]

[does search] Yep, that's him.

And this is him:

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/tv.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/tv_pix/fox/prison_break/robert_knepper/break_hodes.jpg

Oh yes, he could be Cletus. This is such a great idea, it's a pity we'll probably never see it happen.

[Silver Sable]

Thanks Sym and that's a good shot of him.Too bad he's 51.Way too old to play Clete :(

[Symbiotica]

He'd make a better Cletus than Gopher would an Eddie Brock. I don't think there'd be much argument on that score from anyonw who has seen both actors in action.

[venomadness]

From the moment I saw him in action in Prisonbreak, I said, "Holy *****, that's a perfect Cletus Kasady." Slap some red hair on him and he's perfect. I think it's his eyes. He's got the 'crazy' eyes.

I've seen alot of places where Batman fans want him to be The Riddler in the new Batman movies.

[Silver Sable]

I never seen the show yet but does this guy play a psycho prisoner?

[venomadness]

yes, he's psychotic, and plays it very well.

[Symbiotica]

From the moment I saw him in action in Prisonbreak, I said, "Holy *****, that's a perfect Cletus Kasady." Slap some red hair on him and he's perfect. I think it's his eyes. He's got the 'crazy' eyes.

And he has that insinuating way of talking that's how I've always imagined Clete coming out with those crazy theories of his... a smooth talker, yet totally just... insane.

See, this is another good reason Gopher should not be Brock. You can look at the actor in the role being discussed here and tell immediately that he is dangerous, can't be trusted for a second and has a tendency to be rather short-fused [onscreen, I mean. I'm sure he's a nice guy IRL]. He totally makes you believe he's got several screws loose.

Do we get that feeling looking at any of Grace's past roles...? No...? I didn't think so, either.

[venomadness]

The whole Topher thing frustrates me to no end...I don't want to judge...because I've been pleasantly surprised before, but...Eric Foreman??? C'mon.

[Venom Drool]

am i the only one who fels this has been talked about to death?
i know Slag and Mnemo have been going at this topic for the past 5 years

[venomadness]

And I suppose everything else talked about in boards is fresh and new?

[Venom Drool]

And I suppose everything else talked about in boards is fresh and new?
people like you suck:up:

[venomadness]

people like you suck:up:

...intelligent.

[Venom Drool]

...intelligent.
indeed

[venomadness]

indeed

I hate people like you. Interrupting conversation just for the sake of interrupting.

[Silver Sable]

Guys please.We all ready had a fight in the Should Venom Talk? thread.Let us be friends please lol :o

[Venom Drool]

I hate people like you. Interrupting conversation just for the sake of interrupting.
interupting lol..

listen kid.. i made astatement regarding the same issues being discussed and felt it was talked about to death... you jumped the gun and were all insulted...

so hate all you like

:up:

[venomadness]

But mom, he started it.

[Silver Sable]

No one ever listens to me :(

[Venom Drool]

No one ever listens to me :(
i loves you

[venomadness]

so hate all you like

:up:

Thanks for your permission.

[Venom Drool]

Thanks for your permission.
you're welcome

[Silver Sable]

i loves you

(Hugs and kisses) ;)

[venomadness]

Venom Drool, please give us a conversation topic...one that has your stamp of approval.

[Venom Drool]

a convo eh?
how bout how sandman if at all, will affect which side of the force Venom chooses. we all know hes fought with and agaisnt Sandman with spidey before so...

[Symbiotica]

am i the only one who fels this has been talked about to death?
i know Slag and Mnemo have been going at this topic for the past 5 years

Well, here we are in the Venom thread, perhaps you have something new to discuss that you'd like to add to the conversation.

It's not like anyone's holding you here; maybe it's just me, but I find stuff like the "Should Venom Talk?" thread to be the essence of stupidity, it annoys me... and so I mostly stay out of there. Not that I'm trying to chase you out of the thread, just if you find us discussing this guy:

http://www.fox.com/prisonbreak/media/photo/images/bagwell001.jpg

... as Kasady annoying, it's not like you have to be here or we rap your knuckles with a ruler, or something.

[Venom Drool]

Well, here we are in the Venom thread, perhaps you have something new to discuss that you'd like to add to the conversation.

It's not like anyone's holding you here; maybe it's just me, but I find stuff like the "Should Venom Talk?" thread to be the essence of stupidity, it annoys me... and so I mostly stay out of there. Not that I'm trying to chase you out of the thread, just if you find us discussing this guy:

http://www.fox.com/prisonbreak/media/photo/images/bagwell001.jpg

... as Kasady annoying, it's not like you have to be here or we rap your knuckles with a ruler, or something.

whatever.. carry on
he looks the part

[Symbiotica]

a convo eh?
how bout how sandman if at all, will affect which side of the force Venom chooses. we all know hes fought with and agaisnt Sandman with spidey before so...

I prefer to think he's not going to be in this one, which renders the concept moot. At least, over here it does.

Not to mention this brings up the possibility of "heroic" Venom. Ugh.

[Venom Drool]

I prefer to think he's not going to be in this one, which renders the concept moot. At least, over here it does.
the possibility of it being the case should be considered since its very likely... deniel wont make it go away...

[Silver Sable]

It's funny to see us talking about this dude playing Carnage in a Venom thread

[Venom Drool]

symbiotes and all that jazz...

[Symbiotica]

the possibility of it being the case should be considered since its very likely... deniel wont make it go away...

So, not only are we [so you postulate] getting Gopher as Venom, but he's going to be heroic, too?!

Good God, the franchise is DEAD if that happens. All we need is Jacob Marley rattling a few chains and crying "Woe!" to enhance the air of death and destruction of a great idea.

[Venom Drool]

So, not only are we [so you postulate] getting Gopher as Venom, but he's going to be heroic, too?!

Good God, the franchise is DEAD if that happens. All we need is Jacob Marley rattling a few chains and crying "Woe!" to enhance the air of death and destruction of a great idea.
merely making you aware of that possibly happening.. not that id like that
im a fan of the venom of old. 'i kill when i need to..**** everyone and anything that gets in the way..."

but look... this franchse has been geared for a GENERAL audience for some time...so it makes me quesy as to what version of V we wil lbe getting

[Dr Doom]

WHY CALL HIM GOPHER?

[Arcturus]

So, not only are we [so you postulate] getting Gopher as Venom, but he's going to be heroic, too?!

Good God, the franchise is DEAD if that happens. All we need is Jacob Marley rattling a few chains and crying "Woe!" to enhance the air of death and destruction of a great idea.

I am excited about Venom, or at least something regarding Venom for Spider-Man 3. However, I am disgusted that Gopher Grace will be Venom from what we've heard. It's rather sickening.

Oh Symbiotica, why is it that this stuff has to happen? What have I done to deserve this?

[TheSlag]

am i the only one who fels this has been talked about to death?
i know Slag and Mnemo have been going at this topic for the past 5 years

Damn... and I've only been here for 3+ years :eek: :D

[Venom Drool]

Damn... and I've only been here for 3+ years :eek: :D
ha.. my bad;)

[Ill Wayz]

see, what I dont understand is how everyone bashes topher grace.... Do you not realize hes in hollywood they have the best trainers in the world working for them... by the time topher starts shooting he could be 250 and ripped u dont know... and hes a great actor so that shouldnt be an issue...

I mean I know the image we got of him is a wimpy geek on that 70's show but dudes done with that now...

I dunno I think hes gonna pull it off....

[RangerJeff]

I think the Spiderman franchise has done a great job casting everyone so far. People need to relax a little bit and make comments about Topher and Church after seeing the movie (or at least a trailer with the two of them in it). The casting director seems to know what he's doing, so I'd trust him with Topher and Church too. I think both will be excellant in their roles. I understand giving comments/opinions - but one should keep somewhat of an open mind.

[Symbiotica]

see, what I dont understand is how everyone bashes topher grace....

It's because those of us doing it don't take him seriously as a villain.

ESPECIALLY as the one this thread is about.

I guess they could've hired Pee-Wee Herman and sent him to acting coaches and bulked him up too, but would we take him seriously as Venom? Same thing with the 70s kid, to a lesser degree. I don't dislike Pee-Wee at all, but would he make a good Venom? Uh, no.

Hopefully this is all much ado about nothing.

[venomadness]

http://www.fox.com/prisonbreak/media/photo/images/bagwell001.jpg



I wish I was decent with Photoshop, this pose is so great...

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/venomadness/Carnage.jpg

I'd model it after this picture.

[venomadness]

WHY CALL HIM GOPHER?

Because he's a joke. He'd make a decent Peter Parker...but EDDIE BROCK??? Anyone read comics, not the Ultimate's, the real comics...where Venom originated? Do any of you Topher supporters know what Eddie Brock is supposed to look like? Seriously, remove your head from your ass and pick up an old Amazing Spiderman comic.:confused::mad::confused:

[Silver Sable]

Because he's a joke. He'd make a decent Peter Parker...but EDDIE BROCK??? Anyone read comics, not the Ultimate's, the real comics...where Venom originated? Do any of you Topher supporters know what Eddie Brock is supposed to look like? Seriously, remove your head from your ass and pick up an old Amazing Spiderman comic.:confused::mad::confused:

I know what you mean but I still doubt he'll be Venom.Kirsten said this, not Raimi.No offense to the girl but she messes things up

[Venom'sDad]

Because he's a joke. He'd make a decent Peter Parker...but EDDIE BROCK??? Anyone read comics, not the Ultimate's, the real comics...where Venom originated? Do any of you Topher supporters know what Eddie Brock is supposed to look like? Seriously, remove your head from your ass and pick up an old Amazing Spiderman comic.:confused::mad::confused:

I wouldn't worry too much about it.... Topher won't be Eddie Brock.... I think Kirsten was slightly confuse in her understanding who Topher would actually be playing.

[spider-jide]

Because he's a joke. He'd make a decent Peter Parker...but EDDIE BROCK??? Anyone read comics, not the Ultimate's, the real comics...where Venom originated? Do any of you Topher supporters know what Eddie Brock is supposed to look like? Seriously, remove your head from your ass and pick up an old Amazing Spiderman comic.:confused::mad::confused:

How about you keep your head up your ass and realise what the hell you just said?:o You yourself just said he'd make a decent PP which I more than agree with, so how does that make him a joke?? If anybody's a joke, look towards those with their fingers on the power button.
At the end of the day instead of acting like losers and bashing Grace to death how about sharing some of that blame/hate pie to those who actually thought it was a good idea to green light and cast him. If y'all wanna be mad at someone, how about giving Raimi and the the other execs a shout out for giving Grace the thumbs up in the 1st place?:o...
...If you dont know, you better ask somebody...

[Ill Wayz]

I just realized something.... I don't care what you all think lol... thats great

so I think Topher will do a great job... and you guys dont.. cool

settled

[venomadness]

How about you keep your head up your ass and realise what the hell you just said?:o You yourself just said he'd make a decent PP which I more than agree with, so how does that make him a joke?? If anybody's a joke, look towards those with their fingers on the power button.
At the end of the day instead of acting like losers and bashing Grace to death how about sharing some of that blame/hate pie to those who actually thought it was a good idea to green light and cast him. If y'all wanna be mad at someone, how about giving Raimi and the the other execs a shout out for giving Grace the thumbs up in the 1st place?:o...
...If you dont know, you better ask somebody...


Joke as Brock, genius. Yes, I do think he would have made a good Peter Parker. However, I will put my head in my ass so that I can see things your way. Sorry, fresh air clouds my judgement.

Hate pie??? Quit hogging all the "I http://www.mysmilies.info/msn/love/002.gif (http://www.mysmilies.info/msn_messenger/love?cat=love&download=002.gif)Topher" pie. Gotta' go, I have an Apple pie in the oven.;)

[spider-jide]

nice...

[The Lizard]

I suppose this should be posted here as well...

http://www.azogscollection.com/cutenews/data/upimages/spidey_bookends.jpg
Spidey/Venom/Sandman bookends to be released next year.

Could mean absolutely nothing, but still a bit of a head-scratcher.

[venomadness]

Very nice. Where did you find that picture???

[Visionary]

It's either Electro or Venom whom Topher is playing. My gut feeling tells me that he's playing Eddie Brock. Either way, they won't be able to hide who's he playing when filming starts, somebody will have found proof by then. If not, we'll know if they don't cast someone who's a muscle bound guy (like the size of Flash in SM1/a little older than Peter's age range) before they start filming soon--if they don't, all things point to Topher/Eddie Brock. Being that he's been in a Sony's Press release, he's not playing a minor role.

Forget about Ned Leeds, they've got one Goblin (II), and they wouldn't dare use two.

[TheSlag]

It's either Electro or Venom whom Topher is playing. My gut feeling tells me that he's playing Eddie Brock. Either way, they won't be able to hide who's he playing when filming starts, somebody will have found proof by then. If not, we'll know if they don't cast someone who's a muscle bound guy (like the size of Flash in SM1/a little older than Peter's age range) before they start filming soon--if they don't, all things point to Topher/Eddie Brock. Being that he's been in a Sony's Press release, he's not playing a minor role.

Forget about Ned Leeds, they've got one Goblin (II), and they wouldn't dare use two.

What?!?!?!?! I thought you had read the advanced script and proclaimed no Goblin in SM3??? What gives? You get an updated script from Sam... Oscar? ;)

[Abaddon]

Seriously,why is Topher getting bashed when it was Raimi's choice to cast him?:confused:

[venomadness]

Simple, he's a doosh.

[Abaddon]

and what brought you to that conclusion?:rolleyes:

[Symbiotica]

Raimi's getting bashed plenty in his turn, don't worry. However we don't yet know what Raimi has really done here yet. Meanwhile Gopher is "unsafe at any speed," as a villain pretty much, so he's getting most of the heat. In the main, people don't seem to respect him much - a marked contrast to most other villain castings for these films.

If it turns out the worst case scenario is true, I'd imagine Raimi's in for a bit of heat, not only here but... everywhere.

[Symbiotica]

http://www.azogscollection.com/cutenews/data/upimages/spidey_bookends.jpg

... but where's Harry, if this is film-related? Do we not get Harry at all this time out? I dunno about this.

[Abaddon]

Raimi's getting bashed plenty in his turn, don't worry. However we don't yet know what Raimi has really done here yet. Meanwhile Gopher is "unsafe at any speed," as a villain pretty much, so he's getting most of the heat. In the main, people don't seem to respect him much - a marked contrast to most other villain castings for these films.

If it turns out the worst case scenario is true, I'd imagine Raimi's in for a bit of heat, not only here but... everywhere.



I could Topher as a villain.Maybe not like any villain we'd imagine,but definitely a "rendition".I don't care for him Venom,but then again I didnt care GG in armor,or Ock being manipulated by his tentacles.There's really not much you do but complain when it comes to things like that because the directors going to do whatever he wants to do.Topher's just coming off the small screen so I can see why he isn't being praised,but I see him pulling off a good Ned Leeds.If he's Venom,then I'm sure he can pull off a nice Rami-style Eddie Brock.It wouldn't be Venom as I or many others would have imagined,but I don't think his acting will completely ruin the movie.:confused:

[Venom'sDad]

Personally..... I do think whom ever Topher is, he will do a good job. He's really not a bad actor....I think he will be fine. However, he does not fit the bill or have the build to be EB/V. I'm telling you all....... he going to be you know who..... hey, that's just me :)

[Symbiotica]

There's really not much you do but complain when it comes to things like that because the directors going to do whatever he wants to do.

Yes, but this explains the seductive appeal of these forums. :) Where else can we let off stream about the latest Horrific Happening? Or rejoice at great happenings, like we did last time. OK, -that- was a depressing thought....

[Arcturus]

*Bumping this thread for the great of good*

[Jason Martell]

I am curious about something. I know this is too late to do this idea.

But remember in part 2, when Peter saw that guy getting beat up, and he just walked away? I think it would have been great if that had been outside the Bugle, and that had actually been Eddie Brock.
And later have peter meet Eddie Brock at the Bugle, and Eddie's like "Hey no hard feelings, dweebs like us aren't meant to fight. But I'm lifting weights, I'm gonna be big" And have that be all the Eddie you show in part 2.

The in part 3 actually set him up for part 4 as Venom. Have the whole Eddie solves a crime, then Spider-Man resolves it, proving Eddie wrong, and all the other stuff, with Eddie's wife leaving him. When Eddie finally becomes Venom, and realizes that Peter is Spider-Man, he remembers hey Pete could have saved me, but he just let me take it. Just a way to add to the hatred, because the current thing just doesn't equal enough hatred in my opinion. You could also have Eddie's wife being a fan of Spidey's, making Eddie jealous.

You could even have a dramatic scene where Venom's face peels back, and asks him why? You took everything from me. You ruined my entire life. My wife's love, my career. Your supposed to be a hero, and you let those guys beat me nearly to death. Why? And then you turned me into this monster. Why did you do that to me? How could you? All that time, I was struggling to make a career, and you rode by easily taking pictures of yourself, and when I finally get a big break, you step in and ruin it for me. What did I ever do to you? You have done everything to me."
And spider-man could have his mask off, and say "I had no idea. Eddie I'm sorry, let me help you, this thing is changing you. I know because, it changed me."
And then they continue fighting. Of course I'm talking late in a movie with Venom, after it's already been established, that Spider-Man can not take Venom, and Venom's bent on killing Spider-Man. Previously you could even show that peter is unaware as to why this Venom is so bent on destroying him.

[Symbiotica]

*Bumping this thread for the great of good*

Hey, what do you think of this Christina Cindrich person as Venom? :) It could happen - in a world where Gopher could be Brock, I don't see why Chrissy there is all that implausible. Why not?

I remember people saying last time Hal Sparks was going to be Venom... I swear, if we found out some *police-dogs* were scheduled to be "extras" in a crowd-scene, people'd be saying they were symbiotic dogs, like those seen in the Tsunami Venom series.

I remember people were saying Chocolate Cake Girl was going to be Gwen, too. A sizeable number of people here were absolutely convinced of this, and got angry when wiser souls laughed out loud at the prospect....

So Christina could be Venom - I can definitely see it. What say you?

[Frenzy]

As long as when the symbiote peels back it reveals her bare breasted gorgeous body and she says "We are sex in a physical form" I'm with you!!!!!!!!!!! It could even be a 'sexiote' not symbiote eh?

[venomous]

^I second that! :p

[Symbiotica]

Mind you, I'm posting from the distaff side of the Hype - so it's not like I care if we saw her in a bikini or something: to the contrary.

I just think we should continue the long tradition of proclaiming everyone added to the cast-list: big, small, short or tall as a potential Venom. :) Or Gwen Stacy. Or both.

[Dr Doom]

WHY DO YOU CALL HIM GOPHER?

[Symbiotica]

Because he gets no respect from me until I make sure he's cast in a role I approve of, at least marginally; this is why.

And because the name "Topher" strikes me as both incredibly pretentious and... pretty stupid: and therefore annoying.

These remarks may strike you as extremely egocentric on my part, and if they do, you're absolutely correct. :) "Topher" has yet to earn *my* respect. If he's cast correctly [as in, how he should logically be cast], he'll have the opportunity to earn that. If not.... well.

[Dr Doom]

THAT'S FUNNY

[Arcturus]

Sym;

I can totally see Christina Cindrich as Venom, in fact, she'd make a better Venom that Gopher Grace. Honestly, knowing Rami even Sylvester Stallone could be Venom for all we know. You know, I imagine a scene where Venom will roar, however I can't imagine hearing a Gopher scream with his prebuscent voice.

Ugh, why don't they just get Harry Potter to be Carnage and we'll be set.

[Jason Martell]

Sym;

I can totally see Christina Cindrich as Venom, .

And she'd still probably look hot as hell, but I would never let her give me head, with that tongue and those teeth.
Ouch!

[ven-numb]

Not sure if this has been discussed in this thread...

What do you think the chances are of JJJ's son, being an astronaut, bringing back the symbiote from a space mission and somehow letting it get out and onto PP?

[Abaddon]

Because he gets no respect from me until I make sure he's cast in a role I approve of, at least marginally; this is why.

And because the name "Topher" strikes me as both incredibly pretentious and... pretty stupid: and therefore annoying.


You do realize he didn't choose that name?:confused:

[venomadness]

You do realize he didn't choose that name?:confused:

Topher is a form of Christopher...why isn't his name Chris???:confused: Who uses the last part of their name? I agree with Symbotica.

[venomadness]

I can totally see Christina Cindrich as Venom, in fact, she'd make a better Venom that Gopher Grace.

I think she weighs more than Grace. She's a little more muscular that him I'm sure.

[venomous]

I think she weighs more than Grace. She's a little more muscular that him I'm sure.

:D :up:

[Jason Martell]

That's weird and pathetic.

[Gladiator]

That's weird and pathetic.
If thats not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.

[el brujo138]

I really dont want Venom to be in the next movie if he is going to be played by Topher. But Sandman as the mainvillain would suck even worse. I would like to see Venom on screen, but only if done right and after the classic villains (like Lizard). I really dont know about all this talk about Venom, I think certain people have already made up their minds, in their minds Venom is the second villain.
Me? I´ll wait for the offical confirmation

[Webzpinner]

Topher DID choose his name.... in the 6th grade, his class had 6 Christophers, all going by the name Chris + last initial ( i.e. Chris G) He decided he wanted to be different, and went by the name of Topher, and demanded all who speak with him to do the same... anyway... Having just finished the Ultimate Spider-man game, I think something in that game would work beautifully in the movie: Venom's need to feed. Venom could be feeding on street thugs (basically seems to be like Harry Potter Dementors.... the suit sucks out body chemicals, leaving its prey cowering and mumbling in a state of dementia).

Imagine that in the movie. Street thugs are going to the hospital en masse, all demented, mumbling about white eyes and spider... naturally everyone assumes it's Webhead. It would definitely work.

once again, to toot my own horn, coz I can... www.sparklingweb.net/art/ for my take on Venom teaser posters.

[Frenzy]

Would work a treat my friend - I like it.:)

[Jason Martell]

If thats not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.

look in the mirror, and there's your answer.

[Abaddon]

Topher is a form of Christopher...why isn't his name Chris???:confused: Who uses the last part of their name? I agree with Symbotica.


Topher is a form of Chris?How silly.Only in the midwest.:o

[Gladiator]

look in the mirror, and there's your answer.
Where do you come up with these clever comebacks??:confused:
If I want to see weird and/or pathetic, all I have to do is start reading some of your posts and ideas, ie; "Should Harry wear the symbiote?"

[Jason Martell]

Where do you come up with these clever comebacks??:confused:
If I want to see weird and/or pathetic, all I have to do is start reading some of your posts and ideas, ie; "Should Harry wear the symbiote?"

like your insults are so great and original.
Oh and that makes me pathetic? Why, because I thought of something original, that somebody else hadn't thought of yet? What's funny about your post, is that I never even said wear it. And besides it was an idea, to be analyzed and scrutinized objectively. with the exception of one or two people, nobody did that.

Just please talk to other people, don't even bother wasting your time with somebody that you consider pathetic, because that would be truly pathetic.

[Dr Doom]

I THINK THERE'S A GOOD REASON NO ONE HAS THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

[Jason Martell]

I THINK THERE'S A GOOD REASON NO ONE HAS THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

Are you insuiating that people had a reason to motivate them not to think about that? That's hypcrisy. That's like saying you know what something tastes like before you taste it. In order for them to have a reason in the first place, they would have already had to think about it.

[Dr Doom]

NO IT'S NOT H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y.

JUST LIKE NO ONE HAS THOUGHT OF UNCLE BEN BEING RESURRECTED AND THE SYMBIOTE BONDING WITH HIM. SOME THINGS ARE JUST SO STUPID, THAT PEOPLE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BRING THEM UP.

[el brujo138]

NO IT'S NOT H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y.

JUST LIKE NO ONE HAS THOUGHT OF UNCLE BEN BEING RESURRECTED AND THE SYMBIOTE BONDING WITH HIM. SOME THINGS ARE JUST SO STUPID, THAT PEOPLE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BRING THEM UP.

Agreed.

[Jason Martell]

NO IT'S NOT H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y.

JUST LIKE NO ONE HAS THOUGHT OF UNCLE BEN BEING RESURRECTED AND THE SYMBIOTE BONDING WITH HIM. SOME THINGS ARE JUST SO STUPID, THAT PEOPLE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BRING THEM UP.

But you just did, and that's why I called your statement hyprocisy. How do you know it's stupid, if you never thought about it?

[Symbiotica]

It seems plain to me that we have someone present who thinks they're enjoying complete moderator protection from dissenting opinions, while feeling free to post insults and slurs by the score themselves; in short, indulging in the very behavior they decry. In fact, indulging in it to a greater degree: most of his dissenters were calling no names, but merely reviling his ideas, not he himself.

If one -insists- upon crying wolf, it's a great idea not to go about wearing a wolfskin oneself. Capiche?

[LarryLegend]

It seems plain to me that we have someone present who thinks they're enjoying complete moderator protection from dissenting opinions, while feeling free to post insults and slurs by the score themselves; in short, indulging in the very behavior they decry. In fact, indulging in it to a greater degree: most of his dissenters were calling no names, but merely reviling his ideas, not he himself.

If one -insists- upon crying wolf, it's a great idea not to go about wearing a wolfskin oneself. Capiche?

:up: :up: :up:

[Silver Sable]

Jason,why do you take things so seriously? :confused: :(

[TheSlag]

But you just did, and that's why I called your statement hyprocisy. How do you know it's stupid, if you never thought about it?


Sorry to be graphic... but does it take any thought if you see a "dog turd" on the ground to NOT think it would NOT taste good?

If you want to think about something... think about that. Some things, you don't even have to think about, to know they... "stink" (pun intended) :D

[Dr Doom]

:up:

[Symbiotica]

If we ever did see Venom, wouldn't it be great if we saw someone, oh, I dunno.... someone like THIS

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/ryalito/x3juggernaut.jpg

....cast in the role, you know, someone intimidating, someone who might actually make you nervous at the thought of them losing their temper? Maybe that's just me.

[Silver Sable]

If we ever did see Venom, wouldn't it be great if we saw someone, oh, I dunno.... someone like THIS

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/ryalito/x3juggernaut.jpg

....cast in the role, you know, someone intimidating, someone who might actually make you nervous at the thought of them losing their temper? Maybe that's just me.

Yes! He have to have hair though lol!.Who si this btw?

[Venom'sDad]

If we ever did see Venom, wouldn't it be great if we saw someone, oh, I dunno.... someone like THIS

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/ryalito/x3juggernaut.jpg

....cast in the role, you know, someone intimidating, someone who might actually make you nervous at the thought of them losing their temper? Maybe that's just me.

... I have to agree.... this guy looks fearsome..... he has that look my DAD had when I was 6, when I did something wrong and my Dad didn't say a damn thing...... just gave me that look ...and you knew.... straighten that $h!+ up or that's your A$$....

I don't see that in Topher.......... maybe he will be Chameleon :confused:

[Dr Doom]

Yes! He have to have hair though lol!.Who si this btw?
VINNIE JONES

[Silver Sable]

Oh sweet! That's the dude who's gonna play Juggernaut in X3! :up:

[Advanced Dark]

What would happen if the symbiote attached itself to Sandman. What would be crazy. Sand Venom

[stretcho]

What would happen if the symbiote attached itself to Sandman. What would be crazy. Sand Venom

Did you think of that all by yourself?

[Arcturus]

What would happen if the symbiote attached itself to Sandman. What would be crazy. Sand Venom

Lay of the Angel Dust, would you?

[lordofthenerds]

It sounds like Spider-Man's costume will be black which leads the way for the symbonite from the costume news and I think that Topher Grace will be playing Venom.

[venomous]

Where does it say Spidey's costume is black? :confused:

Actually....nobody knows yet! :rolleyes:

[Jason Martell]

It seems plain to me that we have someone present who thinks they're enjoying complete moderator protection from dissenting opinions, while feeling free to post insults and slurs by the score themselves; in short, indulging in the very behavior they decry. In fact, indulging in it to a greater degree: most of his dissenters were calling no names, but merely reviling his ideas, not he himself.

If one -insists- upon crying wolf, it's a great idea not to go about wearing a wolfskin oneself. Capiche?

Yes but symbiotica, Larry Legend, Gladiator, Spider-Jide, and Doom don't have to follow me everywhere I go with the same exact harassing statements. If I make up one comment, somebody brigns up everything I ever said on these boards that they didn't agree with, even when it has nothing to do with the thread they are posting in. You can not deny this happens. Go the Sandman's origin thread if you don't believe me. A total thread shot to crap!

[Jason Martell]

Sorry to be graphic... but does it take any thought if you see a "dog turd" on the ground to NOT think it would NOT taste good?

If you want to think about something... think about that. Some things, you don't even have to think about, to know they... "stink" (pun intended) :D

that's because you have know your whole life what it smells like. The thought of how disgusting it is actually has probably entered your brain over a thousand times while you were under the age of 10 alone. Not to mention every time somebody farted. Your brain links taste and smell together.
So technically your example only reinforced my statement. You can't think something without thinking about it. It's not feasibly possible. Knowing something is a thought.

[TheFuture]

I have had a dramatic change in opinion on Topher Grace. Before I said that Topher was "acceptable" as Eddie Brock/ Venom, that given a good script and proper execution of the character we would see a great Venom.

But then today came along...............

I was flicking through my Sky Digital, and nothing was on.........except That 70's Show. I decided it would be a laugh to watch a series I hadn't watched since I was a young teen and to analyse our potential Eddie Brock.

There and then the Fear of God was struck in me. I don't know what it was, but watching Topher Grace made me go pale in the face. I tried to imagine him playing the physcotic Eddie Brock and I just...........couldn't. I tried to imagine him, right there and then, with the symbiote engulfing him and I felt nothing.

Admittedly I haven't seen any of Topher's films so I can't judge on his versatility as an actor, but I just can't accept Topher as Eddie any longer. It just feels like an injustice to the character and a "teeny bopper" move.

Here's hoping I will get to see Topher as my preferred choice, the Hobgoblin.

[Weapon M]

Spider-Man 4

1)-----Optional; Have symbiote Bond with Brock Now(Lets have Brock screaming like a lunatic in pain, as memories of Spidey embrassing Brock, all the bad moments in Brocks life come back to him in a flash)

2) The film now is Spider-Man vs Venom

And for the two films, you can have fun with all the other junk such as more development with Peter and Mary Jane, Aunt May, Jonah and little John Jameson and the rest of the happy friends. And prehaps any other villain set-ups and whatnot.

ARE YOU CRAZY?!?! How many years ago was Spiderman 2???? It's been such a long time ago!!! I aint going to be waiting another 3-4 years for Spiderman 4... Before we even SEE another Venom.
No ways, I say VENOM NOW.. I mean there are so many fans speculating and talking about this so much.. That it would be crazy for the film Makers to have them wait another 4 years! That would be cruel!!!!

Anyways- next idea..

[Arcturus]

*Bump*

Because I care.

[Arcturus]

I care because you do.

[Boogeyman]

My 2 cents: Joaquin Phoenix should play Eddie Brock/ Venom. He is an awesome actor, and he deserves a role like Venom. He'd be hard to kill too! Anybody agree?

[Silver Sable]

Disagree.Sorry :(

[Ultimate Doom]

My 2 cents: Joaquin Phoenix should play Eddie Brock/ Venom. He is an awesome actor, and he deserves a role like Venom. He'd be hard to kill too! Anybody agree?

sry, but no.

[Arcturus]

*Bump*

I care because you do.

[IronLion]

sry, but no.

agree, but i think he could play a good carnage, but he doesnt have the look. so ignore me. lol

[TrueBeliever]

I voted "no" only because Eddie Brock should be in SM3 and "Venom" should be in SM4 or whatever.

That said, it looks as if "Venom" as a character might indeed be in SM3. Check it out:

[quote: myself]Hey, I've posted this elsewhere and plan to repost this in other Topher threads (I haven't been keeping up with the threads as much as I should...) So, if this is old news, forgive me:

Imdb.com lists Topher Grace as "Venom"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413300/

KyleD. [/quote: myself]

[Visionary]

SPIDER-MAN 3--Sandman and Green Goblin 2, featuring Eddie Brock.

SPIDER-MAN 4--The Lizard (main villain), featuring Kraven The Hunter and introducing Spidey's black symbiote alien costume brought to Earth via John Jameson (Eddie Brock included).

SPIDER-MAN 5--Venom (main villain), featuring minor villains The Rhino and Shocker, featuring Maxwell Dillon (no Electro).

SPIDER-MAN 6--Sinister Six (main villains) Doctor Octopus and Electro, featuring other villains Scorpion, Kraven The Hunter, Sandman and Mysterio. (3 hour movie event)

SONY and MARVEL make this happen!:cool:

[Gladiator]

SPIDER-MAN 3--Sandman and Green Goblin 2, featuring Eddie Brock.

SPIDER-MAN 4--The Lizard (main villain), featuring Kraven The Hunter and introducing Spidey's black symbiote alien costume brought to Earth via John Jameson (Eddie Brock included).

SPIDER-MAN 5--Venom (main villian), featuring minor villains The Rhino and Shocker, featuring Maxwell Dillon (no Electro).

SPIDER-MAN 6--Sinister Six (main villains) Doctor Octopus and Electro, featuring other villains Scorpion, Kraven The Hunter, Sandman and Mysterio. (3 hour movie event)

SONY and MARVEL make this happen!:cool:
I could live with that.

[Symbiotica]

[quote: myself]Hey, I've posted this elsewhere and plan to repost this in other Topher threads (I haven't been keeping up with the threads as much as I should...) So, if this is old news, forgive me:

Imdb.com lists Topher Grace as "Venom"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413300/

KyleD. [/quote: myself]

You can post this in 20,000 threads and just repeat it ad nauseum, just like the other 50 people who have came in here saying the exact same thing: however IMDB has about as much credibility as your average trained parrot re what goes on in these movies.

IMDB can "report" Topher Grace is cast as Powdered Toast Man, for all of me. I don't care. I WON'T care until I see something on the official Sony website.

Drive through please: NEXT.

[Visionary]

People who want to see Venom in Spider-Man 3, are people who must really HATE the character. With Sandman being official and Harry/GG2 storyline, Venom will have about 6 minutes or less of screen-time. I just can't believe how stupid some of you actually are, in wanting to see him so bad, that you are willing to see him molested to less than a cameo character.

If Sony/Marvel/Raimi are reading this, EDDIE BROCK should be featured and fleshed out, with the rivalry and hate between Peter/Brock/Spidey in mind--throughout Spider-Man 3 and 4, to ready him for Spidey 5. This is how you build a massive anticipation for VENOM, in which he deserves.:cool:

[Arcturus]

If sony knows what's good for them, they should introduce eddie brock in sm-3, just eddie brock mind you. Maybe hint towards the symbiote (i said hint), that way you can develop eddie brock. But since it's aiming towards gopher grace, i don't care anymore.

[Visionary]

You care...you just don't know it yet.;)

[Symbiotica]

Eddie Brock is not going to get "fleshed out," you can forget that right now. We got 5 minutes of origin for each of Spidey's top two, most-important villains, yet some people seem to think we're going to get a 3-film buildup for Brock, regardless of who plays him.

This is NOT GONNA HAPPEN, you can take it to the bank. A complicated buildup would take too much screen-time away from Dunst and Aunt May making speeches about heroism. Brock will get his five minutes of origin-time, and you better like it. :)

[Quentin Beck]

SPIDER-MAN 3--Sandman and Green Goblin 2, featuring Eddie Brock.

SPIDER-MAN 4--The Lizard (main villain), featuring Kraven The Hunter and introducing Spidey's black symbiote alien costume brought to Earth via John Jameson (Eddie Brock included).

SPIDER-MAN 5--Venom (main villain), featuring minor villains The Rhino and Shocker, featuring Maxwell Dillon (no Electro).

SPIDER-MAN 6--Sinister Six (main villains) Doctor Octopus and Electro, featuring other villains Scorpion, Kraven The Hunter, Sandman and Mysterio. (3 hour movie event)

SONY and MARVEL make this happen!:cool:wow! Great choice:spidey: :up:

[TrueBeliever]

[quote=TrueBeliever]


You can post this in 20,000 threads and just repeat it ad nauseum, just like the other 50 people who have came in here saying the exact same thing: however IMDB has about as much credibility as your average trained parrot re what goes on in these movies.

IMDB can "report" Topher Grace is cast as Powdered Toast Man, for all of me. I don't care. I WON'T care until I see something on the official Sony website.

Drive through please: NEXT.
Hey, thanx for responding at least. I really had no idea if that meant anyting to anyone at all (and no one was saying anything!). So... yeah, I figured the whole "if Sony didn't say it yet" thing applied.

Also, "Eddie Brock" should be in SM3 and "Venom" should come in later. I don't think the world is ready for "Venom" yet. Neither is the Movie Spider-Man Universe (opposed to the Ultimate or Amazing Spider-Man Universes).

Peace and good tidings y'all,
KyleD.

[SpideyFan85]

Any of you think that Venom could be the main villain, and sandman is just there for a fight or two... I mean, I've never thought sandman was that cool of a character, i mean, he can turn into sand, wow.... But venom? Yea, i think that sandman is a throwaway villain, put in there to make fans happy, and venom is the real deal... maybe it's just me, but I dunno how enjoyable an entire 2 1/2 hour-long movie would be about a guy who can become sand... I dunno, he never showed up in the 90's cartoon, and I've seen EVERY episode of that show, and I don't feel cheated that he never apeared... Sandman just doesn't do it for me... And honestly, niether does Electro, especially after FF's Doctor Doom showed similar abilities, it'd just be a re-run... I dunno... I picture Spidey getting the costume, fighting sandman, then losing the costume, then brock getting it, then a major fight or two, maybe a wedding, and at the very end, maybe Harry dons a costume... I dunno, that sounds pretty damn good to me... Characters like Rhino and Sandman are a dime a dozen, and I can only see them as thugs who are temporarily in Spidey's way... Just my opinion....

[Arcturus]

*Bump*

Merry Christmas you flesh puppets, pathetic slaves of society!

I care because you do.

[Visionary]

Any of you think that Venom could be the main villain, and sandman is just there for a fight or two...
NO.

[Symbiotica]

"Any of you think that Venom could be the main villain,"

No.

"... and sandman is just there for a fight or two..."

Yes indeed I do. Sandman's going to end up being a cheap date. Just wait and see. :)

[Arcturus]

*Bump*

You know you want it.

[Cyclops3235]

:venom: :venom: im worried this will become a batman forever thing. two villians has never really worked. except Batman begins. so i want venom to have his own move agaist spidy, not this one.

["Iron Man"]

Venom needs a sidekick, someone like Electro or Scorpion. (someone that will help him get to Spidey and help wreck havoc)

[Kraven TH]

I would be a much better baddie than Venom.

[Visionary]

Venom with a sidekick...WTF...you joke, right?

[Ultimate Doom]

SPIDER-MAN 3--Sandman and Green Goblin 2, featuring Eddie Brock.

SPIDER-MAN 4--The Lizard (main villain), featuring Kraven The Hunter and introducing Spidey's black symbiote alien costume brought to Earth via John Jameson (Eddie Brock included).

SPIDER-MAN 5--Venom (main villain), featuring minor villains The Rhino and Shocker, featuring Maxwell Dillon (no Electro).

SPIDER-MAN 6--Sinister Six (main villains) Doctor Octopus and Electro, featuring other villains Scorpion, Kraven The Hunter, Sandman and Mysterio. (3 hour movie event)

SONY and MARVEL make this happen!:cool:

you should take Raimi's place as director LOL :up:

[Superman]

Found this and thought you guys might like it. :)
http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/7504/venomandspidey2dg.jpg

[Visionary]

http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/7504/venomandspidey2dg.jpg

Nice find Supes, I'm just curious, would you all be happy if Venom looked exactly like he does in this picture?

[Silver Sable]

Venom needs a sidekick, someone like Electro or Scorpion. (someone that will help him get to Spidey and help wreck havoc)

He's better off w/o one

[Silver Sable]

Nice find Supes, I'm just curious, would you all be happy if Venom looked exactly like he does in this picture?

No :mad:

[TheSlag]

Nice find Supes, I'm just curious, would you all be happy if Venom looked exactly like he does in this picture?

Hell... and NO.

[Superman]

Nice find Supes, I'm just curious, would you all be happy if Venom looked exactly like he does in this picture?Exactly? No, but with a little CGI help, something like that wouldn't be to bad IMO.

[Ultimate Doom]

Found this and thought you guys might like it. :)
http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/7504/venomandspidey2dg.jpg

Was that scene actually used in the movie? with Green goblin of course instead of venom there...or is that fake?

[MainManMartell]

Exactly? No, but with a little CGI help, something like that wouldn't be to bad IMO.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1/Jason141/venomandspidey2dg.jpg

[Symbiotica]

Venom needs a sidekick, someone like Electro or Scorpion. (someone that will help him get to Spidey and help wreck havoc)

Venom... needs a sidekick?! LMAO!

Uhm... just for your info, Venom and Electro do not exactly get along. Nope, not for a minute.

[Ultimate Doom]

ya...unfortunatley they had a little "debate" on who gets to kill spiderman first :p

http://www.superherotimes.com/news/images/B0009JPV8I.01.PT02._SCLZZZZZZZ.jpg

[Arcturus]

Venom needs a sidekick, someone like Electro or Scorpion. (someone that will help him get to Spidey and help wreck havoc)

Venom needs a sidekick?

Now i've heard everything.

[Venomsixx]

Sidekick, Venom????????????


Hahahhahahahhahahaha

[Iceman]

Carnage?

[Spencer9]

Don't get me wrong, I love Venom. I just want to see his character used to perfection, not messed up horribly by trying to appease some "fans" and put him in 3. This is what I would do.

Spiderman 3 - GG2, Sandman
Spiderman 4 -Lizard, Scorpion
Spiderman 5 - Sinister 6 (Electro, Ock, Mysterio, Chameleon, Shocker, Kraven) or find some other 6.
Spiderman 6 - Venom (maybe Carnage)
I don't think after fighting Venom and Carnage anything would be a challenge to Spiderman. Leave them for last imo.

[lordofthenerds]

Found this and thought you guys might like it. :)
http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/7504/venomandspidey2dg.jpg
I think that its fake. Did you get it from her?
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/articles/2341.asp
It sounds pretty fake to me.

[Spencer9]

omg of course it is a fake. look at it you've seen it before think

[Silver Sable]

Carnage?

If he wasn't too sick then maybe but Venom would be all right w/o any help from others

[venomadness]

Speaking of Carnage, I just saw the new Marvel Selects Ultimate Carnage at my local Suncoast Store. I was not impressed a bit. Judging by how the Venom looked that came out, I thought Carnage would be amazing. Nope. They could have done so much, but definitely failed in my opinion. Anyone else seen it up close and personal?

And...a side kick for Venom? For Venom?!? No friggin' way!

["Iron Man"]

Guys, of course I was joking about the Venom-sidekick thing! I mean I'm not that stupid. Venom could take on the whole entire Marvel Universe without help!

[spidey-dude]

yeah take on the entire marvel universe and lose horribly....

[Ultimate Doom]

Speaking of Carnage, I just saw the new Marvel Selects Ultimate Carnage at my local Suncoast Store. I was not impressed a bit. Judging by how the Venom looked that came out, I thought Carnage would be amazing. Nope. They could have done so much, but definitely failed in my opinion. Anyone else seen it up close and personal?

And...a side kick for Venom? For Venom?!? No friggin' way!

I actually bought the carnage at my local comic book store and I love it. its head is like this cool rubbery stuff that you can bend his mouth in all these cool ways and it comes with a dead Gwen Stacey.

I love it :up:

[The Comedian]

It terms of the basic look, I wouldn't be too upset with that Venom, in terms of size, costume, mouth etc. But the costume needs to have some kind of texture or fluidity to it to make it more like a living organism and to make it look like it's existing in the same reality of spidey. We dont want it looking like spidey is fighting a video game character.

[Symbiotica]

WOW here it is! Look what John Jameson picked up in space, OMG it r0xx0rs! ITS VENOM IN THE FLESH, WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/whitey137/Loken3.jpg

Its on a web-site so it -has- to be true! Behold this super-seekrit pic stolen right off IDunnoWhatImTalkingAbout.com! They have the best news ever WHOOOOT! All you Venom haters you are pwned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No wait, that is BC! BC WEARS THE SYMBIOTE, WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! What's a comic book, she wore the symbiote in the cartoon and that is good enough for me! All you comics readers are dis-educated anyways! All imteligents peepulz know that VENOM!!!! VENOM VENOM VENOM is in this one!





[daily dose of sarcasm provided absolutely free of charge. :)]

[Ultimate Doom]

Omg!!! Were Going To See The She-venom!!! 3 Cheers For Raimi!!!

Hip Hip Hooray!
Hip Hip Hooray!
Hip Hip Hooray!

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2855/bova.jpg

[Silver Sable]

I actually bought the carnage at my local comic book store and I love it. its head is like this cool rubbery stuff that you can bend his mouth in all these cool ways and it comes with a dead Gwen Stacey.

I love it :up:

If you can, could you post it please?

[kidslaureate]

so is topher grace officially cast as brock, or is he maybe just another integral character to the plot?- and whats this about she venom? do tell in a summarised fashion...