The Venom Discussion

[Arcturus]

Okay folks, im going to start an Official Appreciation Thread for Venom. Please lets keep all discussion mature and good hearted. If you love Venom thats fine, if you hate Venom thats fine as well. Because let's face it, everyone out their has a right to their own opinion. However, there are millions of Venom threads being spawned, but the majority of them turn out to be crud. Well this thread will hopefully not be. If there are other Venom threads that spawn after this one, then just merge it with this one to keep all Venom thread population under control. I just want to help a little bit and the Venom fans can share their ideas, visions and whatnot here. Seeing as there are lot's of other threads for other villains being created, they got merged, i'll keep this going. I'll bump this thread ever so often so everyone can see the thread and/or view peoples posts.

So, that weight being of my shoulders; here is an idea I have.


Now i've posted this idea before, but i'll start the thread off with it. Of course you don't have to agree with this idea or you hate it, thats fine. If you have an idea of your own post it in this thread.



Spider-Man 3

1) Introduce symbiote in Spider-Man 3(Whichever origin turns you on), also introduce Brock, build up the grudge he has.

2) Have Spider-Man with the symbiote for whatever duration in Spidey 3) Fighting GG2, Sandman, etc)

3) Have Spidey seperate with the symbiote, thinking he has killed it.

4)----Optional; Have symbiote Bond with Brock at the end (Lets have Brock screaming like a lunatic in pain, as memories of Spidey embrassing Brock, all the bad moments in Brocks life come back to him in a flash)

Spider-Man 4

1)-----Optional; Have symbiote Bond with Brock Now(Lets have Brock screaming like a lunatic in pain, as memories of Spidey embrassing Brock, all the bad moments in Brocks life come back to him in a flash)

2) The film now is Spider-Man vs Venom

And for the two films, you can have fun with all the other junk such as more development with Peter and Mary Jane, Aunt May, Jonah and little John Jameson and the rest of the happy friends. And prehaps any other villain set-ups and whatnot.

[VenomFang]

Venom!!

[GoldGoblin]

venom4life,wow you want Venom to be in S-M4 instead of in S-M3?I agree with you it would be better too save him for S-M4.

[The Lizard]

venom4life,wow you want Venom to be in S-M4 instead of in S-M3?I agree with you it would be better too save him for S-M4.

I'll agree. Even if Lizard isn't in SM3, I can certainly understand the desire to put Venom in SM4. Hopefully whoever might be directing and starring in the franchise at that time would do a quality job.

[ironmaidenrules]

makes a million times more sense than having him in spidey 3

spidey 3 is goblin country

venom is unique to me because he hates both spider man and peter parker

he sees no problem with rining parker's doorbell and punching him all night.

when/if venom comes..i dont want people to know that its venom for awhile so we can have all that creepy tension of brock looking for parker and him scary the **** out of mary jane.

having venom will also send parker on long partols where he gets no sleep, doesn't see much MJ, all he does is go out looking for venom

and venom is stronger,faster than peter and spidey sense wont work

so now we get to see science peter make some sonic bombs or whatever.

all i know is that when Venom comes in Peter will be angrier,tired and get the **** knocked out of him end almost kill brock...it'd be cool if while he's fighting brock(and almost killing him) the symbiote sees that parker is worthy and tries to merge with him again...At that moment Peter realizes what he's becoming and great power...ect ect

[I am Venom]

Yeah! You're totally Right man! Venom rocks! I would like to be invaded by the symbiote like Eddie Brock. I can imagine myself, big muscles, sharpen claws, razor bladed teeth, a big demonic tongue, hanging around every corner of the world, shaping myself into whatever I want to be, a policeman, a politician, a priest, a singer, or even another villain like Red Skull, Dr Doom or even the Dc villains.

[The Lizard]

Yeah! You're totally Right man! Venom rocks! I would like to be invaded by the symbiote like Eddie Brock. I can imagine myself, big muscles, sharpen claws, razor bladed teeth, a big demonic tongue, hanging around every corner of the world, shaping myself into whatever I want to be, a policeman, a politician, a priest, a singer, or even another villain like Red Skull, Dr Doom or even the Dc villains.

Wouldn't your screen name more correctly be "We are Venom"? ;)

[Webslinger420]

OK guys here is my way that I think they should do the 3rd movie with Venom. I cant see them spreading it over two movies like you guys are saying even though that would be cool. They dont really work things like that. Remember these are actual movies that they spend major $ on Not our fantasys.

I think its going to be a much longer movie, and not as much for kids.(I thought SP1 was geared to kids too to get a strong viewer base, and I think SP2 lead away from that a bit more, and SP3 will lead away a bit more).

The movie will start out with the shocker(not very developed just to show him as a bad guy robbing and stuff. Spidey will fight him and he will escape. Then there will be space accident peter will save the people and the symbiot will come around and attach to spidey. Then for a little while he will fight with the back(he will start to become bad) Black spidey will beat the shocker and almost kill him and then realize what he is becoming a bad guy.(during this time we will see brocks hatred brewing for parker)

Then spidey will ditch the suit and Brock will get it. That will roll into awesome battles between the two, with a big fight at the end. There will be no definite winner of the last battle and Venom will escape. And the movie will end with a hanger like that.

No one has said anything about this yet...not every one of these movies has to follow the standard of the first two where a villain is in the movie as a normal guy peter associates with, then he has a accident and becomes bad, and then they fight, spidey wins and the bad guy dies. I think the movie is going to follow a completely different format, and would be a good idea to do that.

I do like eveyone elses ideas too. :spidey:

[Mister Sinister]

One of the best villains in the Spidey universe and only 8 posts.

[Lethal Venom]

Allright a venom thread! :) I hope he's in spidey 3 and 4

[Arcturus]

I think these pics of Mcfarlane's Venom would be a good design for a movie.

http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/cover.pl?80123,spiderman_amazing,316.jpg
http://www.amazingspidermancomics.com/characters/venom.jpg
http://www.amazingspidermancomics.com/characters/venom1.jpg

[olsen103]

venom HAS to be the next villian.this whole "accident turning good guys into bad guys" is getting old.i mean goblin and doc ock turn into villians the same way(there own projects messsing up and backfiring) its kinda boring.they have to use a great villian.they have to use a well known villian.they need a villian with a unique original origin and venom fits in all of those.

[Webslinger420]

We all know venom is the Man! Nice pics above :up:

I am getting this pic as a tattoo on the back on my leg in three weeks

http://www.gottawiz.com/images/comics/marvel/venom/venom[1].jpg

[Head>On<Collider]

Don't worry. There WILL be a Venom movie some day.

[Venom_uk]

No Venom in S-M3!!!!

Venom for S-M5 :up:

[Reikowolf]

this thread seems familiar? lol

:spidey:

[GoldGoblin]

No Venom in S-M3!!!!

Venom for S-M5 :up:

^Kinda curious,why do you want Venom to be in S-M5,and who do you want too be in S-M4?

[Venom_uk]

^Kinda curious,why do you want Venom to be in S-M5,and who do you want too be in S-M4?
S-M3 - Sandman & nothign at all to do with Venom!

S-M4 - Intro to Eddie Brock & Spidey gets Symbiote suit...

S-M5 - Eddie gets Symbiote suit & we have our Venom :up:

[GoldGoblin]

http://www.gifworks.com/queue/Animation1_1041.gif

[Head>On<Collider]

http://www.gifworks.com/queue/Animation1_1041.gifThat's what I'm talkin about !!! :up:

[Arcturus]

What kind of plot would you folks like to see in a movie, something similar in the style of the 90's animated series of Spider-Man? Something like the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, some original?

For me I think it would be neat to see the story somewhat based on the original Venom plot from Amazing Spider-Man #298-Amazing Spider-man#317.

[GoldGoblin]

Something similar in the style of the 90's animated series.

[Symbiotica]

I can imagine myself, big muscles, sharpen claws, razor bladed teeth, a big demonic tongue, hanging around every corner of the world, shaping myself into whatever I want to be, a policeman, a politician, a priest, a singer, or even another villain like Red Skull, Dr Doom or even the Dc villains.

So, lemme get this straight: you'd get the Venom symbiote... and then waste time developing a career in pop music?! I can imagine what Eddie would say to that...

You yearn to be both an officer of the law... and then Red Skull on a whim?

LMAO! These are certainly novel ideas if nothing else :hq:

[The Lizard]

I think I scared him off with my "We are Venom" comment. :D

[NinjaCarm]

VenomforLife I like your thinking.

But maybe they should save the best for last.

SPM3 - Sandman and GG2

SPM4 - New Cast and Direction. Introduce the Spider-Slayers with Scorpion, Shocker, and Vulture (as the mastermind)

SPM5 - Introduce the black symbiote. Have a Lizard/Kraven storyline.

SPM6 - Venom baby!!!! And at the end have Spidey and Venom team up against Carnage!

Now thats a good two trilogies if I ever seen 'em. 'Nuff Said!

[Caliber]

VenomforLife I like your thinking.

But maybe they should save the best for last.

SPM3 - Sandman and GG2

SPM4 - New Cast and Direction. Introduce the Spider-Slayers with Scorpion, Shocker, and Vulture (as the mastermind)

SPM5 - Introduce the black symbiote. Have a Lizard/Kraven storyline.

SPM6 - Venom baby!!!! And at the end have Spidey and Venom team up against Carnage!

Now thats a good two trilogies if I ever seen 'em. 'Nuff Said!

No Vulture,Scorpion,Shocker or Spider Slayers. That would be a crappy movie to be honest. Why not make a movie with Tarutula instead working with Rhino as the mastermind? :rolleyes:

[GoldGoblin]

No Vulture,Scorpion,Shocker or Spider Slayers. That would be a crappy movie to be honest. Why not make a movie with Tarutula instead working with Rhino as the mastermind? :rolleyes:

^I agree.Vulture and Spider Slayers should never go near the movies.

[Caliber]

^I agree.Vulture and Spider Slayers should never go near the movies.

People say Venom or Lizard aren't good but these villians who are worse and shouldn't appear in any movie are.

[Omegaman]

Don't worry. There WILL be a Venom movie some day.
You're telling me if the next spiderman film don't have venom i'm complaining:hyper:

[Arcturus]

Here's a line-up for some actors who could possibly make a good Eddie Brock/Venom.

http://www.staciwilson.com/KillBill/henry_rollins_1_kb172.jpg
Henry Rollins

http://www.thespidermanmovie.com/Spider-man-2002/Pictues/RCEverbeck1.jpg
Richard C Everbeck

http://www.digitalhit.com/fest/tiff/2004/5/t04c-5-428.jpg
Thomas Haden Church

http://www.filmfreak.be/picsact/0231phoenixj001.jpg
Joaquin Phoenix

http://cyncity.typepad.com/cyn_city/urban.jpg
Karl Urban

[Exabyte]

I love Venom Henry Rollins is cool

[Exabyte]

Karl Urban, he was the bad guy in Chronicles of Riddik

[Daisy]

Oooo... Karl Urban. :up: Excellent choice.

And while Raimi himself hasn't worked with him (I don't think)... Urban worked on Hercules, Xena and the pilot for Amazon High with Raimi's partner Rob Tapert... so he's got at least a backdoor "Raimi Connection".

[Symbiotica]

I found Urban to be a boring villain who seemed to lack initiative in Chronicles; his wife did everything... but that's just me. He seems way too cute to be Brock, as well as perhaps not old enough.

Rollins is the man. I like Luke Goss too.

[Arcturus]

http://www.pathguy.com/brock_lesnar_5.jpg

Even though he looks like Brock, I don't see a big him as a convincing reporter. And as well, im not sure he can act (Yes, I know he is a wretler, but that's a little different).

[Caliber]

Rollins can't act. They need someone who can act. David Borenaz should play Eddie/Venom. Hes tall and can act.

Edit: Just because someone is as a big as Eddie doesn't mean he should play Eddie. Brock Lesner shouldn't even consider acting at all. No one should suggest him.

[Symbiotica]

http://www.pathguy.com/brock_lesnar_5.jpg


NO!!!!! No, no, NO!

.... and I dunno who said Rollins cannot act, but that is totally UNTRUE.

[Caliber]

http://www.pathguy.com/brock_lesnar_5.jpg
.... and I dunno who said Rollins cannot act, but that is totally UNTRUE.

Prove tome he can be a believeable reporter. I doubt he could play one. I'm sure he be good for Shocker or some other spidey villian.

[Arcturus]

Now, now folks. I never suggested that Lesnar play Eddie Brock, im just saying people have said it before! Don't aim the barrel at me!

Luke Goss
http://film.onet.pl/_i/news/duze/l/luke_goss_1.jpg

David Boreanaz
http://rhiannon.dreamhost.com/angel/gifs/gallery/david11.jpg

As suggested, these guys make good Eddie Brocks.

[Caliber]

Now, now folks. I never suggested that Lesnar play Eddie Brock, im just saying people have said it before! Don't aim the barrel at me!

Luke Goss
http://film.onet.pl/_i/news/duze/l/luke_goss_1.jpg

David Boreanaz
http://rhiannon.dreamhost.com/angel/gifs/gallery/david11.jpg

As suggested, these guys make good Eddie Brocks.

I wasn't aiming at you but at those who suggest Lesner for Eddie. I haven't seen any of Goss's movies but he reminds me of Eddie.

[Arcturus]

I wasn't aiming at you but at those who suggest Lesner for Eddie. I haven't seen any of Goss's movies but he reminds me of Eddie.

Ah yes, my bad. A misunderstanding. :)

As for Luke Goss, here's a link from imdb.

http://imdb.com/name/nm0331577/

[Caliber]

Ah yes, my bad. A misunderstanding. :)

As for Luke Goss, here's a link from imdb.

http://imdb.com/name/nm0331577/

Hmm I'm not sur know but I give him a chance. I still think Broenaz is the one to pick.

[Silver Sable]

David Boreanaz is hispanic.He can't play Brock since he's caucasian

[E.Brock]

haha David Borenaz is not hispanic.....i wouldnt pick him for brock but hes not a spaniard bro

[Silver Sable]

He IS hispanic :p

[Caliber]

David Boreanaz is hispanic.He can't play Brock since he's caucasian

So Jessica Alba is playing Sue Storm and that wrong too. Your comments are almost rascial.

[Symbiotica]

Goss can be seen as main big-bad Nomak in "Blade 2."

[Caliber]

Goss can be seen as main big-bad Nomak in "Blade 2."

I wondered who played Nomak. He would be a great Venom then. He was great as Nomak. I can see him as Venom then.

[Silver Sable]

So Jessica Alba is playing Sue Storm and that wrong too. Your comments are almost rascial.

No I'm not! I'm just saying that it will be weird if an actor/actress portrays a character who is a different race.Don't put words in my mouth bud.Now you got me very angry!
:mad:

[Symbiotica]

Nomak totally kicked ass in Blade 2. Goss would make a fantastic Brock/Venom... and we've already seen the proof he can handle a fight scene well. For those who have not seen B2, IMO Nomak came much closer to killing Blade during the final fight than Deacon Frost did in 1.

I dont mind the idea of Boreanaz, [please dye him blonde btw] but I've never seen his work so I say less about him.

I have a feeling if we get Venom at all, though, its going to be Church. [sigh]

[Daisy]

David Boreanaz is hispanic.He can't play Brock since he's caucasian


Got some news for you... Hispanics are Caucasian.

[CaptainStacy]

Who cares, either way? Jessica Alba is hispanic and was cast as the extremely caucasian Sue Storm.

And correct me if i'm wrong, but i think the actor who played the caucasian Kingpin was african-american.

i don't think Venom is a role that requires the actor to be of a certain background, as opposed to say, Thor or Black Panther, who are both characters who's origins stem from certain regions where their respective races are prominent.

[Symbiotica]

i don't think Venom is a role that requires the actor to be of a certain background, as opposed to say, Thor or Black Panther, who are both characters who's origins stem from certain regions where their respective races are prominent.

Uhhh.... so then for instance it would be okay with you if Black Crappy turned out to be.... Halle Berry? How about Jada Pinkett Smith as MJ? How okay would that be? From what you say, that should be perfectly fine...

I do NOT like seeing these characters changed in this fashion, and that includes Kingpin; spent the entire movie not enjoying the actor's performance, but thinking, "Um.... that's *not* the Kingpin."

I loathe the concept of casting against type. Brock is a very light-skinned blonde guy, and should remain so in order to avoid the Kingpin problem [i.e. an annoying distraction from the character]. let's leave it at that.

[CaptainStacy]

Yes, as a matter of fact that WOULD be "perfectly fine" although i have no idea who the hell you're referring to by "Black Crappy"..

Let me direct you to a story entitled "Heroes Don't Cry" from Peter Parker #35 for a good example of my feelings towards the race issue.

Also; i wasn't aware that Duncan being cast as Wilson Fisk was a "problem" of some sort. Guess you just see things a bit differently than i do.

[Symbiotica]

I think its pretty safe to say the majority of people find casting against type, whether by race or by other criteria, to be a "problem;" Tom Cruise could tell you all about that after his "Interview with a Vampire" total fiasco. Or... you could ask Halle Berry about what a positive experience CINO was for her; although in that case I will admit the problems went far deeper than the target audience's last [Michelle Pfeiffer] exposure to Catwoman.

I am sorry, I want Brock to maintain his traditional race, just like I want Robbie Robertson to maintain his and MJ to maintain hers. Hypothetically speaking.

[SentinelMind]

^so you're saying the fact Halle was black is what ruined the movie? Hmm...I thought it was the ridiculous plot, horroble script, bad lines, and poor directing.

Silly me....it was the race.

[CaptainStacy]

How was Tom Cruise's Interview With The Vampire a "total fiasco"? That movie grossed over $223 Million dollars, worldwide, on a $60 million dollar budget. Doesn't sound like the "majority" had any issues there. Even author Anne Rice, who publicly denounced Cruise's casting, apologized to him after the movie's premiere.

In regards to Halle's Catwoman; that movie had WAY more issues than the actress cast in the lead. One of the most famous Catwomen of all, Eartha Kitt, is of african descent, and fans loved her on the old Batman tv series. Where do you think that Catwoman cliche' "Purrrrr-fect" comes from?

Boreanez would be "Purrrrr-fect" as Venom, hispanic descent non withstanding.

[SentinelMind]

Speaking of casting against background.....wasn't Two-face white in the comics...yet in the Burton movie and the TAS, Harvey Dent was played by a black person. I don't think that hurt the series or the original movie too much. "A Black Harvey DENT...NO!!!"

I say the race should only matter if changing the race would change the appreciation of the character. I don't know, but I wouldn't mind seeing some more ethnic minorities in superhero or prominent villain roles,....without portrayed as a stereotype.

[Arcturus]

I am sorry, I want Brock to maintain his traditional race, just like I want Robbie Robertson to maintain his and MJ to maintain hers. Hypothetically speaking.

I have to agree with Symbiotica on this part here. Keep them true to there comic counter-parts. But either way. There is nothing wrong with it. Oh and by the way, this would be a great scene in a movie with Venom.

http://www.comics-unlimited.com/news/images/spiderman-vs-venom.jpg

[Symbiotica]

^so you're saying the fact Halle was black is what ruined the movie? Hmm...I thought it was the ridiculous plot, horroble script, bad lines, and poor directing.

Silly me....it was the race.

Pray do not put words in my mouth: here is exactly what I said, no more, no less.

Or... you could ask Halle Berry about what a positive experience CINO was for her; although in that case I will admit the problems went far deeper than the target audience's last [Michelle Pfeiffer] exposure to Catwoman.

Thank you.

As far as box-office, I am not going to get into some long, drawn-out battle regarding whether or not box-office take "proves" my point. Anyone interested in the vampire genre well remembers the huge flap regarding Cruise's miscasting as Lestat; there's no need to reiterate that. It has nothing to do with Venom. Even Rice herself publically commented on what a stupid move it was on the studio's part.

If people are going to pick one tiny part out of my post and focus on that to further their "cause," while conveniently ignoring the rest that fails to aid the "vilification" agenda, it kind of renders further discussion meaningless.
I never said a thing about disqualifying Boreanaz because he's "Hispanic," and do not even *go* there trying to say I did; that was somebody else.

I didn't even *know* he was Hispanic. Jesus Christ.

[Silver Sable]

Got some news for you... Hispanics are Caucasian.

????????

[Daisy]

????????
Hispanic isn't a race. It's an ethnicity.

And I actually I misspoke... not all Hispanics are Caucasian. The Hispanic people referred to in the thread (Borenaz and Alba) are, which is what led to my comment. Hispanics/Latinos can be black as well, like Sammy Sosa (he's Dominican).

Hence, not a race... but ethnicity.

[Silver Sable]

Hispanic isn't a race. It's an ethnicity.

And I actually I misspoke... not all Hispanics are Caucasian. The Hispanic people referred to in the thread (Borenaz and Alba) are, which is what led to my comment. Hispanics/Latinos can be black as well, like Sammy Sosa (he's Dominican).

Hence, not a race... but ethnicity.

I'm confused.How can that be?

[Daisy]

I'm confused.How can that be?

Very basically:
Hispanic/Latino... The designation is very heavily based on language, but culture plays a part in it too. They denote of some sort of "spanish" decent at some point. Spain is a country, with its own language, culture, etc. and Spaniards are white. They are not, however, a race, any more than Poles, Italians or Irish are. In places where Spain colonized it "exported" its language and culture, including to black slaves who worked under Spanish rule, like in the West Indies. They adopted the predominant Hispanic culture and language, and when places like Santa Domingo, Puerto Rico, etc. revolted and the Spanish left, what remained were large black poluatations heavily steeped in Spanish culture and language.

Hispanics can be white, black, mixed (white/indigenous or black/indigenous)... those that are considered Indigenous (in Central and South America) are not, however, Hispanic (they frequently don't speak Spanish).

[TheSlag]

Texans However... are a race of our own. :p

YEEEHAWWWWW... *hears the cries of Thank God... HEYYYYYY!!!!! :mad:

[Daisy]

Texans However... are a race of our own. :p

YEEEHAWWWWW... *hears the cries of Thank God... HEYYYYYY!!!!! :mad:

Well... I know you're most definitely in a class by yourself. ;)

[TheSlag]

Well... I know you're most definitely in a class by yourself. ;)


Damn. Just like grade school. They called us "Special" too. ;)

[PALADIN]

I don`t really keep up with movie news much,so for all I know the speculation about WHAT villain Church will be playing in SM #3 may be over now--but in case it`s not........

I just happened to check the listing for SM #3 at Internet Movie Database and the Writing Credit--Characters--is being given to STAN LEE and STEVE DITKO, as with the previous films......No Other Credit Given For Characters.


Thus far, as with other comic movies, credit is given to The Creators of those characters that were used in the film.

I have no idea who created Venom (don`t care, either--I was never very impressed with Venom) ...But I do know that neither Stan Lee nor Steve Ditko had ANYTHING to do with Venom. Ergo, the film will feature ONLY characters that Stan Lee and Steve Ditko are credited with the creation of.

Full Cast and Crew for
Spider-Man 3 (2007)

Directed by
Sam Raimi

Writing credits (in alphabetical order)
Steve Ditko comic book & characters
Stan Lee comic book & characters
Alvin Sargent screenplay

So....Unless Venom is merely considered a "house" character, with No Creator who deserves credit; I would speculate that what we`ll see in the film will be Lee/Ditko characters ONLY. Sandman would seem the high probability choice.

[Silver Sable]

Very basically:
Hispanic/Latino... The designation is very heavily based on language, but culture plays a part in it too. They denote of some sort of "spanish" decent at some point. Spain is a country, with its own language, culture, etc. and Spaniards are white. They are not, however, a race, any more than Poles, Italians or Irish are. In places where Spain colonized it "exported" its language and culture, including to black slaves who worked under Spanish rule, like in the West Indies. They adopted the predominant Hispanic culture and language, and when places like Santa Domingo, Puerto Rico, etc. revolted and the Spanish left, what remained were large black poluatations heavily steeped in Spanish culture and language.

Hispanics can be white, black, mixed (white/indigenous or black/indigenous)... those that are considered Indigenous (in Central and South America) are not, however, Hispanic (they frequently don't speak Spanish).

Sounds interesting.Did you find this out in school?

[Mr Jide]

Well, as far as rumour has it, you guys can kiss any hope of venom being in spidey 3 goodby.

[Head>On<Collider]

Sounds interesting.Did you find this out in school?I thought it was common knowledge.

[Caliber]

I thought it was common knowledge.

It should be. I'm hispanic.

[GoldGoblin]

Goodbye Venom Appreciation Thread,seeya in the S-M4 boards.

[Lethal Venom]

and hello hobby and Sandman board lol ;)

[Arcturus]

Goodbye Venom Appreciation Thread,seeya in the S-M4 boards.


Thankyou for your wonderful input. :rolleyes:

[Arcturus]

Stay on topic folks, I don't want this to turn into another retard fest....

As for the topic at hand, for people who want to know about Venom can click on this link. http://spiderfan.org/characters/venom.html

[Caliber]

Why hasn't Eddie been in a deleted scene? Like an easter egg on a dvd.

[SentinelMind]

^because Raimi isn't thinking about him. That's like asking why the Spot or Rhino isn't in a deleted scene or something.

[GoldGoblin]

With Raimi you will not see spidey wearing the symbiote,you will not see Venom,you will not even see Eddie.

[Arcturus]

^
You clowns, stop polluting my thread with your ineffectual garbage. Yeah, everyones entitled to their opinions so don't take it personel. If you are offended by this then piss off, this thread is not for you. Or you will recieve a swift shoryuken to the brainpan. It's simple, it really is. All those Venom threads that get spawned are to be merged here, im simply trying to help keep the venom thread populations under control.

*Ahem, but back to topic*

Another good actor would be, Michael Rapaport.

http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/4007/RAPAPO.GIF

[Symbiotica]

With Raimi you will not see spidey wearing the symbiote,you will not see Venom,you will not even see Eddie.

And wait'll YOU see that latex mask "Hobgoblin" is probably going to end up wearing, not to mention the armor. 9/10ths of the forum will be squealing in horror like so many stuck pigs; no two of you will agree on one single aspect of it. The fight's already in the works.

"I HATE THE ARMOR!"

"THAT'S THE WORST THING I'VE EVER SEEN!!!!!!"

"POWER RAAAANGGEEERRR PART II!!!!!"

"AAAGGGHHHHHHH I HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

....Yeah.... you bet your bottom dollar we're going to be snickering up our sleeves at the sackcloth and ashes you people are going to be wearing. :venom: Well, don't complain to us. You wanted "hobby" and you are getting him, orange boots and all. And not even the Kingsley HG! No, you dont even get anything THAT good.

Sad?.... oh, you bet. But richly funny too. :venom:

[Symbiotica]

Hi-diddly-ho, neighbors! You want HG, and baby you *got* him. Ta-da!

http://www.partydomain.co.uk/d-commerce/media/04_24032.jpg


[I think he's adorable, meself.]

[Arcturus]

lol, I posted that earlier in the other Hobgoblin related threads. Simply because of the dumb latex mask idea.

:D :up:

[Symbiotica]

But that's what they want! People want something just like this! It boggles the mind! That is what I find so funny; so many of them want a "Halloween" style goblin.

Trick or treat, baby! But who exactly is the TRICK gonna be on? I bet I can guess.

[Arcturus]

GROUND BREAKING NEWS! HOBGOBLIN CONFIRMED, PHOTO BELOW!

http://www.unco.edu/speec/images/break04/3rd%20Place%20-%20Bryan%20Radke%20-%202004.jpg

Hobgoblin- Gimme your candy, or im gonna blow your ass up!

Spider-Man- My god, you look so...stupid.

HAR! :D

[WebHead]

Venom has always been one of my all time fav spidey badguys, i wish he was gonna be the main baddy in spidey 3.

[spider-jide]

thankfully he's not in sm3.

[GoldGoblin]

thankfully he's not in sm3.

^and the franchise has been saved because of it.

[Arcturus]

^

Man, your like a broken record, somewhere in your brain something is broken because it keeps going over and over, and skipping parts. Seek help. Stop crapping in this thread, it started off good and now it's slowly going downhill because special case's like you keep infesting it. It's like watching a bunch of retards with buckets on their heads run into a wall, thinking it's another retard. It's obvious you don't like the character, then why do you constantly come into my thread and dump your useless, verbal diarhea into it? So don't dictate to me with your meaningless junk. Im trying to do the SM-3 community good by making an official venom thread, so all the venom stuff can go here, so that means less venom threads, and less crying from the folks.

But I will put this thread back into topic, and don't give me that crap about a ceartin villain not being in SM-3, because half the threads in this forum are just that.

A good candidate for Eddie Brock is Balthazar Getty, if he dyed his hair and prehaps put on some more pounds, he would be great.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/newmark_films/shadow_hours/balthazar_getty/shadowhours.jpg

[Symbiotica]

^and the franchise has been saved because of it.

I'm going to address this issue right here and now.

Gold, you in particular, what is it you want from us? You're getting just what you want in the movie. Yet here you are, in here posting one-line spam posts like this. What EXACTLY are you hoping to accomplish?

Are you hoping somehow Venom fans are going to throw themselves grovelling at your feet, sobbing, "OH YOU WERE RIGHT!!! I was so wrong! Oh its so perfect we're getting Harry as Hobgoblin and The Moveable Beach as villain! I was blind, but now i see! Oh thank you thank you THANK YOU for youe comments that have opened my eyes!!! I LOVE YOU HG AND SANDMAN FANS!"

.... is that what you want? Because I can assure you, this will not be the result you get.

You're welcome to this franchise as things stand right now. Take it. We don't want it. Have the grace and decency to take it and STFU with these attmpts to harrass symbiote-fans into thinking like you do. NOT HAPPENING!

http://www.unco.edu/speec/images/break04/3rd%20Place%20-%20Bryan%20Radke%20-%202004.jpg

This picture so epitomises what I think of the premise, and what I think of you personally. Now post some more comments that, instead of giving you what you really want, will boomerang on you and knock you figuratively senseless. Go for it; we need some *more* sardonic entertainment. Not even a reason do you give! Just silly one-line troll-postings.

Gah! Disgusting!

[GoldGoblin]

I'm going to address this issue right here and now.

Gold, you in particular, what is it you want from us? You're getting just what you want in the movie. Yet here you are, in here posting one-line spam posts like this. What EXACTLY are you hoping to accomplish?

Are you hoping somehow Venom fans are going to throw themselves grovelling at your feet, sobbing, "OH YOU WERE RIGHT!!! I was so wrong! Oh its so perfect we're getting Harry as Hobgoblin and The Moveable Beach as villain! I was blind, but now i see! Oh thank you thank you THANK YOU for youe comments that have opened my eyes!!! I LOVE YOU HG AND SANDMAN FANS!"

.... is that what you want? Because I can assure you, this will not be the result you get.

You're welcome to this franchise as things stand right now. Take it. We don't want it. Have the grace and decency to take it and STFU with these attmpts to harrass symbiote-fans into thinking like you do. NOT HAPPENING!

This picture so epitomises what I think of the premise, and what I think of you personally. Now post some more comments that, instead of giving you what you really want, will boomerang on you and knock you figuratively senseless. Go for it; we need some *more* sardonic entertainment. Not even a reason do you give! Just silly one-line troll-postings.

Gah! Disgusting!

^Your right,I've have been a sore winner.And I know if it was the other way around I wouldn't want some guy being that way too me.Sorry dude.

[Silver Sable]

GROUND BREAKING NEWS! HOBGOBLIN CONFIRMED, PHOTO BELOW!

http://www.unco.edu/speec/images/break04/3rd%20Place%20-%20Bryan%20Radke%20-%202004.jpg

Hobgoblin- Gimme your candy, or im gonna blow your ass up!

Spider-Man- My god, you look so...stupid.

HAR! :D

He belongs in LOTR, not SM3 lol

[olsen103]

S-M3 - Sandman & nothign at all to do with Venom!

S-M4 - Intro to Eddie Brock & Spidey gets Symbiote suit...

S-M5 - Eddie gets Symbiote suit & we have our Venom :up:

great thinking!!:rolleyes: we wont see venom till like 2012-2013 no thanks.i mean seriously the only thing your going to have in spidey 4 is introducing brock and getting the suit?? i mean come on the movie is freakin 2 hrs+ long.you can EASILY fit brock at the end of spidey 3.then in spidey 4 introduce the suit and how brock gets it.then either kill him or give him another movie.UGHH i just wish venom was the main villian.sandman is going to be so dulllllllll well lets just wait and see.

[Symbiotica]

olsen: "i mean come on the movie is freakin 2 hrs+ long.you can EASILY fit brock at the end of spidey 3."

They COULD, but they WON'T. Not gonna happen. Trust me.

The best thing you can hope for IF and I say IF we get any further movies in this thing, is that 4 has a new director willing to consider villains from eras after... oh, say 1965. And a director willing to shift to focus of the film OFF Mary Jane. If Saimi remains on board, who's next...? Hydroman? How about Rhino...? Oh wait, my bad since I think Hydroman is far too new of a villian to use. Regardless, the mere idea of second-string villains kinda underwhelms me.

If you have to use classic villains, we get Sandman, and Electro is passed over? Its enough to make your brain overheat. BRILLIANT!

I am so disgusted that the opinions of a pretty wide margin of fans have just been so totally dismissed. And I think that may backfire on Saimi badly.

Time will tell.

I frankly hope it does backfire.

[Arcturus]

A sewer battle with Spidey and Venom would always be welcome, of course. Hopefully the picture shows up.

http://www.spidermedia.ru/gallery/sm_others/sm&other023.jpg

[Arcturus]

Another good Eddie Brock would be;

Jason Statham
http://www.supershowppv.tv/Actores/Jason%20Statham/Foto-index1.jpg
http://imagesource.allposters.com/IMAGES/MMPH/253911.jpg

[Demogoblin]

I'm told that MJ once kissed Eddie Brock, then told Peter when he got upset "Dont worry, its just Eddie."

I think its a crock, but this person swears it happened. Did it?

[Venom Drool]

^because Raimi isn't thinking about him. That's like asking why the Spot or Rhino isn't in a deleted scene or something.

he was casted stupid

[ang_hulk]

I tihnk venoms in the next one,why would sand man have prostetics??(spelling?)

[Arcturus]

I'm told that MJ once kissed Eddie Brock, then told Peter when he got upset "Dont worry, its just Eddie."

I think its a crock, but this person swears it happened. Did it?

I don't think that happened, then again, prehaps I don't have the comic.

[GoldGoblin]

Before Venom was created,who was your favorite villain?

[Arcturus]

Before Venom was created,who was your favorite villain?

Well Venom is actually what got me into Spider-Man comics in the first place, however as I looked back at the older villains. I'd say Electro, and even the Green Goblin. And let's not forget, the Scorpion. Those are my top 3 fave villains of the old school days.

[Symbiotica]

I'm told that MJ once kissed Eddie Brock, then told Peter when he got upset "Dont worry, its just Eddie."

I think its a crock, but this person swears it happened. Did it?

Never heard of it or seen it.

It seems very unlikely to me. MJ hates and fears Venom, and Brock himself is not exactly her favorite person. They've never been the least bit friendly. If I am wrong somebody corrct me.

[Hunter Rider]

well i have long since accepted that Venom would not be in SM3(:( )but i think the best way to do him is definately over 2 movies,the first with Spidey wearing the suit to help him fight a villain and then at the end the suit ends up on Eddie who's character would be developed during the course of the moive setting up the long awaited Spidey vs venom showdown in the next movie......#5 i'm guessing

[Silver Sable]

Before Venom was created,who was your favorite villain?

Doc Ock and Hobby

[spider-jide]

I'm told that MJ once kissed Eddie Brock, then told Peter when he got upset "Dont worry, its just Eddie."

I think its a crock, but this person swears it happened. Did it?

:rolleyes: Where do these people get these rumours from? Its pure garbage. Ugh, i swear, i dont know where this person of your heard it from but yes, it is a load of crock.

[spider-jide]

Before Venom was created,who was your favorite villain?


Doc ock.

[JOELLY]

Doc Ock and Venom my top 2 favorites.

[Silver Sable]

:rolleyes: Where do these people get these rumours from? Its pure garbage. Ugh, i swear, i dont know where this person of your heard it from but yes, it is a load of crock.

From online or from magazines

[Head>On<Collider]

:rolleyes: Where do these people get these rumours from? Its pure garbage. Ugh, i swear, i dont know where this person of your heard it from but yes, it is a load of crock.They came from a little birdy and some leprechauns who traded the info for some magic beans! ;)

[ChinoXL]

So venom is not in 3? I guess i won't be anticapting that hard which is good i won't go ballistic waiting for this movie ..venom is also what REALLY got me into spider man i thought he was the perfect villian for him..

guess i have to wait until 2015 for Venom.

[Silver Sable]

So venom is not in 3? I guess i won't be anticapting that hard which is good i won't go ballistic waiting for this movie ..venom is also what REALLY got me into spider man i thought he was the perfect villian for him..

guess i have to wait until 2015 for Venom.

Didn't you know that all ready? lol

[ChinoXL]

I come here once every two months to update myself on what is going on with all these superhero movies :p

[Caliber]

Does anyone remember Matrix Reloaded? The way agent smith makes someone else just like him? I can imagine venom like that.

[Silver Sable]

Does anyone remember Matrix Reloaded? The way agent smith makes someone else just like him? I can imagine venom like that.

You mean whenever he puts his hand into someone, they turn into him??????

[Caliber]

You mean whenever he puts his hand into someone, they turn into him??????

No the way it should look. The black stuff that came over his victims.

[Sparta*]

Before Venom I would have to say that the Sandman was my favorite spiderman villain.

[Riven]

Man I'm still so bummed Venom isn't gonna be in Spiderman 3.

Would have loved to see that.

[GoldGoblin]

Venom gifs.

[Silver Sable]

No the way it should look. The black stuff that came over his victims.

Oh that.Sounds cool

[spider-jide]

Does anyone remember Matrix Reloaded? The way agent smith makes someone else just like him? I can imagine venom like that.

Your talking about the ability to morph.

[American_Hobo]

Does anyone remember Matrix Reloaded? The way agent smith makes someone else just like him? I can imagine venom like that.

that'll be cool

[American_Hobo]

Before Venom was created,who was your favorite villain?

well Venom was the reason why i started to like Spiderman..but other than him....it's Carnage..(oh yeah Carnage doesn't count either,right?..because they're same alien symbitoe friends), then it's Mysterio.

[Venom Drool]

CGI will get incresingly better by the time the film is released in any case... matrix will end up looking like what the year 2000 looks like now

[GoldGoblin]

I wonder how much they would change his look in the movie,or would they make him look exactly the way he looks in comics/cartoon.

The only change I could see is the white squares on top of his hands and his emblem on his chest/back.

[Venom Drool]

hopefully... we get classic venom

[Silver Sable]

well Venom was the reason why i started to like Spiderman..but other than him....it's Carnage..(oh yeah Carnage doesn't count either,right?..because they're same alien symbitoe friends), then it's Mysterio.

Friends? I think you man foes

[American_Hobo]

Friends? I think you man foes

well,yes..good correction

[American_Hobo]

I wonder how much they would change his look in the movie,or would they make him look exactly the way he looks in comics/cartoon.

The only change I could see is the white squares on top of his hands and his emblem on his chest/back.

i hope he looks exactly same as comic.(original looks by McFarlene)

[Silver Sable]

Bagley's is the best version dude!

[Venom Drool]

no...see issue 300

[Silver Sable]

Of what? ASM?

[ohmshalone]

I don't think it's confirmed yet, but we really need venom in this one, if what they say is true about only being 3 movies.

he's the one we wanted from the beginning, but couldn't have coz they had to introduce the key characters and not have EVERYTHING in the first movie blah blah blah.

Also, we can't possibly watch another gg again. not even the mainstream would think it's worth their money.

(ps. if i've said anything noobi-ish, i apologise, i hang around more at the superman movie site and aren't really up to date on this one. Now if that's not asking for flamers, i don't know what is :D )

[Silver Sable]

I rally want him in 3 too but it's impossible b/c his origin is pretty long and it won't work for 1 film

[ohmshalone]

for spider-man fans, it'll be the biggest anti-climax of the year

[Morg]

we don't need Venom in the third one, they gotta finish the GG story and then in the 4th and 5th Venom can show up

[Venom Drool]

yes

[GoldGoblin]

we don't need Venom in the third one, they gotta finish the GG story and then in the 4th and 5th Venom can show up

^Your right.I hope spidey wears the symbiote in S-M4 fighting the Lizard and then facing Venom in S-M5.It would be perfect that way.

[Symbiotica]

Also, we can't possibly watch another gg again. not even the mainstream would think it's worth their money.

This is going to be the series' Achille's Heel.

We've already seen a Goblin. Now we're going to see another one. How exciting will that really be? I know it does not excite me, for one, and I'm a fan.

How excited is the general public going to be, do you think? That is exactly what casual viewers are going to say: "Meh.... seen it before."

2 already did not do as well as hoped. How well is a movie with a redundant villain going to do? [Sandman is pretty much a nonentity to me unless he's in the Six. Bfd, I'm not impressed.] This isn't the "Evil Dead" series after all: where you have a series of films devoted to the same theme, aimed at a relatively small audience who gets the inside jokes. 3 should be aimed at a much broader audience.

3 is most likely going to do even less than 2, and this, NOT everyone's favorite "franchise-killing" bogeyman Venom, is what's going to stop further films from being made. Just you wait.

All we can do is hope Sony green-lites a spin-off project to capitalize on the current series' decreasing synergy so we can see something decent. I admit it. I am bored of goblins.

Just freakin' bored of them.

[Symbiotica]

...What would it take to get me in that theatre?:

http://xs25.xs.to/pics/05161/fgoblin1.jpg

Something that jaw-droppingly cool, that's what. But are we gonna get that? HAH. I don't think so. They'll either redo the current armor [which I like, but I've SEEN IT ALREADY, and seen it on someone way better than Franco, too] or we'll get some Halloween-goblin foofaraw that... God, let's don't go there.

I'm gonna find me the sincerest pumpkin-patch I can find, go camp out in it on a night of the full moon, and beseech the night-time sky with this mighty cry:

O GREAT VENOM, *WHERE ARE YOU??!!!*

[American_Hobo]

I'm gonna find me the sincerest pumpkin-patch I can find, go camp out in it on a night of the full moon, and beseech the night-time sky with this mighty cry:

O GREAT VENOM, *WHERE ARE YOU??!!!

http://superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Head>On<Collider]

http://xs25.xs.to/pics/05161/fgoblin1.jpg
This version would have been so perfect. WHAT A SHAME.

[Caliber]

This is going to be the series' Achille's Heel.

We've already seen a Goblin. Now we're going to see another one. How exciting will that really be? I know it does not excite me, for one, and I'm a fan.

How excited is the general public going to be, do you think? That is exactly what casual viewers are going to say: "Meh.... seen it before."

2 already did not do as well as hoped. How well is a movie with a redundant villain going to do? [Sandman is pretty much a nonentity to me unless he's in the Six. Bfd, I'm not impressed.] This isn't the "Evil Dead" series after all: where you have a series of films devoted to the same theme, aimed at a relatively small audience who gets the inside jokes. 3 should be aimed at a much broader audience.

3 is most likely going to do even less than 2, and this, NOT everyone's favorite "franchise-killing" bogeyman Venom, is what's going to stop further films from being made. Just you wait.

All we can do is hope Sony green-lites a spin-off project to capitalize on the current series' decreasing synergy so we can see something decent. I admit it. I am bored of goblins.

Just freakin' bored of them.

Thats why I wanted to see Venom in sm3. We have already seen GG and Hobby is the same thing.

[Silver Sable]

...What would it take to get me in that theatre?:

http://xs25.xs.to/pics/05161/fgoblin1.jpg

Something that jaw-droppingly cool, that's what. But are we gonna get that? HAH. I don't think so. They'll either redo the current armor [which I like, but I've SEEN IT ALREADY, and seen it on someone way better than Franco, too] or we'll get some Halloween-goblin foofaraw that... God, let's don't go there.

I'm gonna find me the sincerest pumpkin-patch I can find, go camp out in it on a night of the full moon, and beseech the night-time sky with this mighty cry:

O GREAT VENOM, *WHERE ARE YOU??!!!*

Is that another one of your statues?
:)

[LethalCarnage]

...What would it take to get me in that theatre?:

http://xs25.xs.to/pics/05161/fgoblin1.jpg

Something that jaw-droppingly cool, that's what. But are we gonna get that? HAH. I don't think so. They'll either redo the current armor [which I like, but I've SEEN IT ALREADY, and seen it on someone way better than Franco, too] or we'll get some Halloween-goblin foofaraw that... God, let's don't go there.

I'm gonna find me the sincerest pumpkin-patch I can find, go camp out in it on a night of the full moon, and beseech the night-time sky with this mighty cry:

O GREAT VENOM, *WHERE ARE YOU??!!!*OMG! :eek: That's excellent

[GoldGoblin]

Is that pic suppose too be a armor mask or a latex mask,because if it's a armor mask,why did Raimi pass on it?

[The Lizard]

I really hope that the fact that this particular sticky villain thread has remained while others have been moved doesn't mean that Venom is now officially in for SM3. :(

[Daisy]

It doesn't. It was simply a moderator trying to sort out the forums because of complaints. :)

[Visionary]

Hahaha...Venom and Black Cat are in SM3 according to the stickies.

[Arcturus]

I really hope that the fact that this particular sticky villain thread has remained while others have been moved doesn't mean that Venom is now officially in for SM3. :(

Don't worry my reptilian friend, I wanted to make a good thread where all the "venom" threads kept spawning in the SM-3 forums, that if need be, can be merged into this one as well. Because we all know about it, they breed like rabbits. I want to keep it under control, so hopefully this stays here and all the Venom threads can be intertwined into this one. I just logged on and noticed alot of threads missing, theres probarbly going to be a million threads of why the threads were movied. Im just trying to help. :)

[Batmun]

I just recently posted my entry for the Fan Art Contest. I was trying to come up with a concept design of Venom for a Spiderman movie. The rib cage was suppose to resemble Venom's spider symbol from the comics but it is difficult to see at this angle. Any kind of feed back would be great.

Here it is.


http://img248.echo.cx/img248/6682/venom7jt.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us/)

[Arcturus]

That's an interesting take on Venom! I love it, he seems creepy and rather evil! He seems very alien, he seems very "life as we don't know it".

Good work!

:) :up:

[Symbiotica]

I really hope that the fact that this particular sticky villain thread has remained while others have been moved doesn't mean that Venom is now officially in for SM3. :(

Oh, don't worry. There's still a 99.99999% probability we're getting those same two boring classic villains :) Sam's not going to go all hog-wild and do something unpredictable; we knew that ever since we saw 2 and during the unmasking scene, who was actually under the mask....? Wow, who'd-a thunk it. Spidey. [completely underwhelmed golf-clap].

A plot TWIST? Uh-uh baby, we're not getting anything that good.

That said, they might as well leave this here because as soon as it gets moved, another Venom thread will take its place.

[Hunter Rider]

Oh, don't worry. There's still a 99.99999% probability we're getting those same two boring classic villains :) Sam's not going to go all hog-wild and do something unpredictable; we knew that ever since we saw 2 and during the unmasking scene, who was actually under the mask....? Wow, who'd-a thunk it. Spidey. [completely underwhelmed golf-clap].

A plot TWIST? Uh-uh baby, we're not getting anything that good.

That said, they might as well leave this here because as soon as it gets moved, another Venom thread will take its place.

just curious do you like any villains except the symbiotes ? and also do you not want the Harry/GG story to be completed ?

[SANDLICKER]

I just recently posted my entry for the Fan Art Contest. I was trying to come up with a concept design of Venom for a Spiderman movie. The rib cage was suppose to resemble Venom's spider symbol from the comics but it is difficult to see at this angle. Any kind of feed back would be great.

Here it is.

pardon my saying so and bluntly, but it is pretty obvious that you just photoshopped a pic of a Predator. predator's are cool and everything but the face of the pic looks well done, but there's no denying the fact that it doesn't look like venom. sorry.

on another note, way back on page one someone made a comment about saving the best for last and therefore putting venom in SM-6. dude don't be stupid. the best is carnage and carnage would go in SM-6. venom can be in SM-5, it's where he belongs. SM-4 is for the black suit, and SM-3 is doomed to failure. ta da.
of course none of that will ever happen, because its clear that the movies are going to focus more on the hardships of peter's life than actual spiderman plotlines. therefore i beleive they will attempt to include Gwen Stacy (yes i know pete is married, but the films are not canon and raimi will do whatever he wants). gwen stacy requires goblin. end result six movies mostly about goblin. yawn. goblin's cool, but not cool enough for six movies. Lord willing they'll put electro in there somewhere along with mysterio.

i shudder to see the future of spiderman in both comics and movies *shudder* see, i told u.

peace fellow doomed spidey-homies.

[Silver Sable]

I just recently posted my entry for the Fan Art Contest. I was trying to come up with a concept design of Venom for a Spiderman movie. The rib cage was suppose to resemble Venom's spider symbol from the comics but it is difficult to see at this angle. Any kind of feed back would be great.

Here it is.


http://img248.echo.cx/img248/6682/venom7jt.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us/)

Looks like a combo of Lizzy and Venom

[Batmun]

pardon my saying so and bluntly, but it is pretty obvious that you just photoshopped a pic of a Predator. predator's are cool and everything but the face of the pic looks well done, but there's no denying the fact that it doesn't look like venom. sorry.

Nope, I didn't use any Predator pic. However, it is a manip of sorts. That's cool you don't feel it looks like venom. Do you have any insights to help me improve the image based on how you would like to see Venom on a movie screen?

[Symbiotica]

just curious do you like any villains except the symbiotes ? and also do you not want the Harry/GG story to be completed ?

Yes I do have other favorites, but none of them are slated to be in this film so I am not discussing them.

And no, I don't much care at this point about seeing Harry's story completed. Harry is a whiny, ineffectual little brat [which he also was in the books right up until the end, but that was different].

two main reasons:

1) I dont want to put up with the 2+ years of whining, wailing, ******ing, complaining and flaming about however he's going to end up looking... because 99.999% of people will hate it and

2) One of my other favorite villains is none other than GG1. I *don't* want his legacy besmirched by a lesser wannabe. Seen the best, forget the rest. So there you have it.

[Hunter Rider]

Yes I do have other favorites, but none of them are slated to be in this film so I am not discussing them.

And no, I don't much care at this point about seeing Harry's story completed. Harry is a whiny, ineffectual little brat [which he also was in the books right up until the end, but that was different].

two main reasons:

1) I dont want to put up with the 2+ years of whining, wailing, ******ing, complaining and flaming about however he's going to end up looking... because 99.999% of people will hate it and

2) One of my other favorite villains is none other than GG1. I *don't* want his legacy besmirched by a lesser wannabe. Seen the best, forget the rest. So there you have it.

1) yeah i agree there i think that it will be a tedious process with an unhappy outcome
2)by "seen the best " do you mean Defoe's Goblin portrayl or just Goblin in general ?

And since this is the Venom thread would you have had venom in the movies by now or do you think waiting till #4-5 is best ?

[American_Hobo]

I just recently posted my entry for the Fan Art Contest. I was trying to come up with a concept design of Venom for a Spiderman movie. The rib cage was suppose to resemble Venom's spider symbol from the comics but it is difficult to see at this angle. Any kind of feed back would be great.

Here it is.


http://img248.echo.cx/img248/6682/venom7jt.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us/)

combination of Alien and Venom,huh?

this is pretty good,though..

[Caliber]

The pic looks like crap. Venom is an alien.

[GoldGoblin]

I prefer if Venom looked more like the 90's cartoon one.

[Venom Drool]

Classic VENOM!!!

[Batmun]

The pic looks like crap. Venom is an alien. Hmmm .... doesn't my pic look alien?

[Silver Sable]

It does but it looks like it bonded with lizard or a monster

[Batmun]

It does but it looks like it bonded with lizard or a monster Okay, fair enough. :venom:

[Visionary]

Very good effort.:)

Shouldn't he be more human form and less dinosaur/The Lizard looking, where are his eyes, white spider on his front and back...and white square webshooter designs?;)

[super scar]

A part of the Venom design I'm working on just now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/ripper/ven.jpg

[Venom Drool]

A part of the Venom design I'm working on just now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/ripper/ven.jpg

we.. nice pic ibn its own right... at least it appears modelled after Classic Venom which is good

[Arcturus]

super scar, that is a real good design you've got there!

Can't wait to see more. :)

[GoldGoblin]

A part of the Venom design I'm working on just now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/ripper/ven.jpg

^That is very cool,can't wait too see the rest of it.

[spider-jide]

I just recently posted my entry for the Fan Art Contest. I was trying to come up with a concept design of Venom for a Spiderman movie. The rib cage was suppose to resemble Venom's spider symbol from the comics but it is difficult to see at this angle. Any kind of feed back would be great.

Here it is.


http://img248.echo.cx/img248/6682/venom7jt.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us/)

I'm sorry but wtf is that supposed to be? Venom? Pfft. Looks like a fat imp from the old school doom games.

[Venom Drool]

lol
its so true

[Arcturus]

This an interesting Venom bust, I found it while searching for Venom in google. This could be a good design for Venom, in my opinion. Hopefully the picture shows up.

http://home.cshore.com/bucwheat/2k5/venom.jpg

[Venom Drool]

again... good...why?...modeled after classic venom

[GoldGoblin]

This an interesting Venom bust, I found it while searching for Venom in google. This could be a good design for Venom, in my opinion. Hopefully the picture shows up.

http://home.cshore.com/bucwheat/2k5/venom.jpg

^That is cool.

[Arcturus]

again... good...why?...modeled after classic venom

huh? :confused:

[Venom Drool]

lemme find a pic

[Venom Drool]

http://www.spiderfan.org/cards/1989_mcfarlane1/images/page1.jpgTop right of course

[GoldGoblin]

http://www.spiderfan.org/cards/1989_mcfarlane1/images/page1.jpgTop right of course

^His teeth don't look as scary in that image.They look like regular teeth,not the razor sharp ones that look cool.

[GoldGoblin]

This is what I want him too look like in S-M5.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1209&stc=1

[super scar]

A quick sketch messed about with in photoshop.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/ripper/vbgr.jpg

[GoldGoblin]

^Cool sketch.

[super scar]

Thanks.

[Venom Drool]

^His teeth don't look as scary in that image.They look like regular teeth,not the razor sharp ones that look cool.

classic venom is waaaayyyy better

[Jspider13]

I had a dream last night that I was watching Spidey 3 and it had Venom. It was pretty awful.

[Venom Drool]

you know. i like you. but. only cause you were here the olden days. so. quiet. :p

[American_Hobo]

I had a dream last night that I was watching Spidey 3 and it had Venom. It was pretty awful.

two days ago i had dream about Sandman being in Spiderman3

[Symbiotica]

I had a dream last night that I was watching Spidey 3 and it had Venom. It was pretty awful.

Well, you're getting your precious, boring classic villains, so I dunno what more you people WANT. The mere *existance* of Venom causes you to have bad dreams...?

Venom: Most feared bogeyman of the entire Spiderverse. Bar none.

Sweet dreams :venom:

[Jspider13]

you know. i like you. but. only cause you were here the olden days. so. quiet. :p

Atleast someone respects their elders.

[Arcturus]

Well, you're getting your precious, boring classic villains, so I dunno what more you people WANT. The mere *existance* of Venom causes you to have bad dreams...?

Venom: Most feared bogeyman of the entire Spiderverse. Bar none.

Sweet dreams :venom:

Oh dear symbiotic sister, why is it the special folk that interupt my thread. Nobody can ever stay on topic! Looks like time to slit my wrists again. Sigh, I just wanted a place for the billions of venom threads to go and help keep it under control.

:(

[Venom Drool]

Atleast someone respects their elders.

bah. before my name change. i was older than you were ;) :p

[Silver Sable]

I had a dream last night that I was watching Spidey 3 and it had Venom. It was pretty awful.

Awful? Are you out of your mind?
:confused: :o

[Symbiotica]

Oh dear symbiotic sister, why is it the special folk that interupt my thread. Nobody can ever stay on topic! Looks like time to slit my wrists again. Sigh, I just wanted a place for the billions of venom threads to go and help keep it under control.

:(

It's all proof of my prior claim that not using Venom is a bad idea. Even the IDEA!!! of him gives people nightmares. How effective would he have been onscreen?! An entire generation of children would have been hiding under the sheets in fear. One and all would have screamed with horror and anguish.

But noooooooooooooooooooooooooo. They wanted Pete and Harry to kiss & make up by the end of 3, and that is what they will get. Harry's such a nonentity; plus IMO that slapping-scene in 2 is just the epitome of... I dunno. Do real men *slap*? I've never seen it! They punch! Guys slapping each other; its time for one of these :rolleyes:

Give me a villain who does not slap. I'm all *radical* that way. You want the villain to have a testosterone-level higher than 0.0000000000002 mm/L or whatever, for crying out loud. [I should look up the actual normal parameters for that, but I am lazy.]

[Silver Sable]

I could be wrong but I EXTREMELY doubt that Peter and Harry will make up in 3 Sym.Harry is still raged.

[Batmun]

LOL http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Thanks for the feed back. For some reason I always pictured Venom to look more like an alien monster on the big screen. He would not talk like in the comics and animated series. I visioned Venom is a man that is cursed with the bonding of the symbiote. The symbiote will influence the man just like how the arms influenced Doc Ock in the movie.

I guess I did change his look a bit to much .... http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Jspider13]

bah. before my name change. i was older than you were ;) :p


That's too bad. :p

[Jspider13]

Awful? Are you out of your mind?
:confused: :o

Yeah the suit wasn't CG, it was a guy in a stiff rubber suit and the mouth didn't move. It was just a big venom mask with the wide smiling mouth and for some reason, the scene I was watching was with Venom outside in the snow.

:confused:

[Silver Sable]

Oh ok.I see what you mean.Sorry you had to dream about that :(

[Losing Grip]

http://img257.echo.cx/img257/3382/ven01copy39co.jpg

[Jspider13]

http://img257.echo.cx/img257/3382/ven01copy39co.jpg

Ew.

[Spidey1885]

I made a Venom piccy!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/spiderdevil/venom.jpg

[Arcturus]

That is a neat pic of Venom, cool!

:) :up:

[psycho]

I made a Venom piccy!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/spiderdevil/venom.jpg
That is actually pretty cool.

[Swordmaster]

I made a Venom piccy!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/spiderdevil/venom.jpg

damn, reminds me of a horror movie. a GOOD horror movie. i like it

[Visionary]

Okay, you guys can stop making posters now, they're getting worst with every post.

[The Lizard]

I'm always amused when this Venom thread rises to the top and shows up on the main Spidey page, because it's the only villain thread with a cute little smiley face next to the title. :)

[Arcturus]

I'm always amused when this Venom thread rises to the top and shows up on the main Spidey page, because it's the only villain thread with a cute little smiley face next to the title. :)

lol, you have just made my day. If only many other posters can be like you.

One of the best posts of the day!

:) :up:

[American_Hobo]

if Venom were to put on the movie, I think Raimi will probably use the idea of Eddie Brock getting controlled by alien symbiote,not being evil himself...(like Norman was being controlled by "Goblin", and Octavious was being controlled by "mechanical arms")

[TheSlag]

if Venom were to put on the movie, I think Raimi will probably use the idea of Eddie Brock getting controlled by alien symbiote,not being evil himself...(like Norman was being controlled by "Goblin", and Octavious was being controlled by "mechanical arms")


Ohhh God!!! Nooooooooooo. *puts up sign along the lines of please don't feed the bears at State Parks.

*PLEASE DON'T GIVE THE IDIOT ANY "bright" IDEAS* :D

[SentinelMind]

Well, you're getting your precious, boring classic villains, so I dunno what more you people WANT. The mere *existance* of Venom causes you to have bad dreams...?

Venom: Most feared bogeyman of the entire Spiderverse. Bar none.

Sweet dreams :venom:

I don't get you...if Venom's origin was butchered and wrapped up in Spider-man 3...then what? What villain will keep you guys interested after that? Please don't say Carnage.:rolleyes:

[Symbiotica]

Originally Posted by American_Hobo
if Venom were to put on the movie, I think Raimi will probably use the idea of Eddie Brock getting controlled by alien symbiote,not being evil himself...(like Norman was being controlled by "Goblin", and Octavious was being controlled by "mechanical arms")

Ohhh God!!! Nooooooooooo. *puts up sign along the lines of please don't feed the bears at State Parks.

*PLEASE DON'T GIVE THE IDIOT ANY "bright" IDEAS*

That is a good reason why I really want Sambo GONE before Venom gets tackled. Bah! Sympathetic villains... they make my stomach hurt.

I should LIKE the villain, but he shouldn't be all boo-hoo-hoo like Ock kinda was. Man I am still disappointed with what they did.

That said...... CARNAGE!

[Symbiotica]

[AP Press Release] Today dozens of heads exploded on the popular comic-book forum "Superhero Hype" at the mere sight of the word "Carnage!" displayed in a large red font in the "Spider-Man 3 Spoilers" forum, long a hotbed of unrest for harried site administrators.

"WHat the **** is this!" a disgruntled Hypster was heard to remark. "First that crappy Superman suit and now someone dares to mention that **** Carnage. What the Hell! He's DEAD! Is it open season on all people of taste & good sense?"

"CARNAGE SUX!" was another proffered opinion.

"YOU WILL NEVER SEE CARNAGE EVER I HATE CARNAGE AND I'M MAKING IT SO!" screamed another sane, reasonable Hype member.

Regardless of the public furor, fans of both Venom and Carnage remain confident eventually the forces of economics will force the appearance of one or both alien-creature-wearing madmen.

"Every dog has his day, and that goes double when you're made outta sand," said one fan of symbiotic characters, meanwhile grinning at this reporter in a disturbing fashion. "Then the real bad-asses show up and everybody runs for the hills. I wanna see Carnage put Harry Osborn's head on a pike, myself."

More to come as these events develop.

[Visionary]

CARNAGE will never show up in a PG-13 movie, and if it isn't R-rated, then I don't ever want to see him in these flicks. Carnage is an R-rated character.

[Silver Sable]

CARNAGE will never show up in a PG-13 movie, and if it isn't R-rated, then I don't ever want to see him in these flicks. Carnage is an R-rated character.

Hey look at Spawn.His comic book was violent and was made into a PG-13 movie

[Visionary]

Yeah, look at the SPAWN movie, which is exactly why I don't want to see CARNAGE in a PG-13 film.

[Silver Sable]

What was wrong with the Spawn movie? Yeah it did have changes but it was still damn good

[Symbiotica]

CARNAGE will never show up in a PG-13 movie, and if it isn't R-rated, then I don't ever want to see him in these flicks. Carnage is an R-rated character.

Visionary, get yourself up to the front of the class to accept your very own gold star! [nails gold star to Visionary's forehead in the best symbiotic tradition of pain] He's R-rated? Who'd-a thunk it! These are amazing insights, nothing escapes your astute and clear-seeing gaze! :venom:

[Venom Drool]

Okay, you guys can stop making posters now, they're getting worst with every post.

lighten up Vis

[Visionary]

Spawn is incredibly graphic in his killings, and there should have been enough blood and guts in it to turn a river red. Not to mention, nudity, sex, rape...and more "F-Words" than a retched porn flick. That's SPAWN.:cool:

[Silver Sable]

Well..........I bet Spawn 2 would be like what you said :)

[Visionary]

Well..........I bet Spawn 2 would be like what you said :)
I hope, perhaps Todd McFarlane will get the R-rating that SPAWN needs, like THE CROW.

[American_Hobo]

hey, check out this poster

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/PoloSportM3/spiderman3copy2.jpg

[spider-jide]

hey, check out this poster

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/PoloSportM3/spiderman3copy2.jpg


Thats looks tight.

[TheSlag]

hey, check out this poster

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/PoloSportM3/spiderman3copy2.jpg

Sweeeeet.

[spider-jide]

if Venom were to put on the movie, I think Raimi will probably use the idea of Eddie Brock getting controlled by alien symbiote,not being evil himself...(like Norman was being controlled by "Goblin", and Octavious was being controlled by "mechanical arms")

I never saw Brock as evil. He was just a victim of bad circumstances and it usually involved spidey. Brock hated spidey and of course Jameson.
However, I just hope Raimi realises that there are such things as crazy and evil people out there in the world.

[E.Brock]

does the lightening have any significance

[E.Brock]

does the lightening have any significance?

[E.Brock]

sorry bout the double post

[Silver Sable]

hey, check out this poster

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/PoloSportM3/spiderman3copy2.jpg

Awesome

[E.Brock]

i think we overlooked this guy as brock...put some weight on him and hed be perfect http://www.cinema.com/image_lib/5533_003_thumb.jpg

[Venom Drool]

its the guy from The Core

[Silver Sable]

Aaron Eckhart?

[Venom Drool]

i beleive so

[Caliber]

i think we overlooked this guy as brock...put some weight on him and hed be perfect http://www.cinema.com/image_lib/5533_003_thumb.jpg

Hmm could be a good choice but I don't know really.

[Arcturus]

Aaron Eckhart, http://imdb.com/name/nm0001173/

[Krumm]

What do ppl have against Venom - I don't get it.

[Fantastic-Boy]

We need VENOM!!!!!!!!

[Silver Sable]

What do ppl have against Venom - I don't get it.

It's because of his long background story

[Visionary]

We need VENOM!!!!!!!!
You're NOT getting him.

See you in 2010, make that 2013.

[Hunter Rider]

You're NOT getting him.

See you in 2010, make that 2013.

actualy your sadly right....oh well

[American_Hobo]

i just want to make it clear...New Line cinema doesn't own Venom anymore,right?

i heard that it got expired and now Sony owns Venom now,right?

[Visionary]

Indeed, they do.

[Symbiotica]

You're NOT getting him.

See you in 2010, make that 2013.

You know no more about what we'll get or not get than anyone out here.

Have fun with 3 meanwhile. Dust-Buster Powers, ACTIVATE! Oh yeah, if anything says "compelling" its some guy you can take down with your average shop wet/dry vac. Uh-huh.....

[Visionary]

Ahhhh, how cute, the Venomite thinks it has a chance in hell of seeing Venom, you'll be 5 to 8-years older first fool, before you see your Venom. And you'll probably go through 100 tampons in the process. But you keep hope alive, ya hear?:p

[spider-jide]

I love how a lot of people are talking as though they have the script in their posession and yet in actual fact, they know noting. Sandman and hobgoblin are all but confirmed. I dont care how likely it seems that they're going to be the villains, the fact of the matter is that its still all hearsay.
All these jokes about sandman getting beat by a freakin vaccume is so trivial. lets grow up a bit shall we :rolleyes:
I for one would love to see venom on screen but at the same time, I dont want hin thrown in a movie just for the sake of it. I want venom done right, to be given justice and I think they can use a similar idea to that of the 90s cartoon series.
Many people keep banging on about, how "spidey has tonnes of villains that are more deserving to be put up on screen". Ok, if thats the case lets hear it, who are they? Nobody has actually posted a list of villains who are worthy big time villains for spidey to go up against in the movies. I'm not talking about Noob posters who's ideas usually get blasted for reasons that are often justified but I want some ideas from the people who've been here for quite some time, especially those who are quick to dismiss other people's ideas. Personally, I think there are far too many people here who still haven't grasped the fact that Raimi's movies aren't going to change in the way we want them too. I'm going to be blunt here........the spider-man movies are mediocre at best. The only thing worth watching are the action sequences, mainly from SM2. The underlying story and dramatic scenes are boring, predicatble, unexciting and uninspiring.
I for one am not hyped for SM3 as much as I thought I'd be or should be. The only decent news I've heard is that there could be 2 villains and thats really it. Church is cast as a villain? So freakin what! :mad: :o There are many good actors that could play spider-man villains so whats the big deal? Announcing Church as a villain doesn't impress me as a good marketing strategy, to me it comes off as weak and pointless. Sony should just announce which villain he's confirmed to be, they might as well because it makes sense.
I'm just glad that SM3 starts filming next year and is released in 2007 because Raimi can now get to see the awsomeness that is going to be batman begins and see how to tell a story. This gives him enough time to get someone to fix what I can only assume is another mediocre script and deliver to us a spidey film that we or at least I can enjoy without wanting to skip through most of the movie just to watch the action sequences.

[Caliber]

Nothing confirmed so its open to think that it could be any villian.

[Head>On<Collider]

I love how a lot of people are talking as though they have the script in their posession and yet in actual fact, they know noting. Sandman and hobgoblin are all but confirmed. I dont care how likely it seems that they're going to be the villains, the fact of the matter is that its still all hearsay.
All these jokes about sandman getting beat by a freakin vaccume is so trivial. lets grow up a bit shall we :rolleyes:
I for one would love to see venom on screen but at the same time, I dont want hin thrown in a movie just for the sake of it. I want venom done right, to be given justice and I think they can use a similar idea to that of the 90s cartoon series.
Many people keep banging on about, how "spidey has tonnes of villains that are more deserving to be put up on screen". Ok, if thats the case lets hear it, who are they? Nobody has actually posted a list of villains who are worthy big time villains for spidey to go up against in the movies. I'm not talking about Noob posters who's ideas usually get blasted for reasons that are often justified but I want some ideas from the people who've been here for quite some time, especially those who are quick to dismiss other people's ideas. Personally, I think there are far too many people here who still haven't grasped the fact that Raimi's movies aren't going to change in the way we want them too. I'm going to be blunt here........the spider-man movies are mediocre at best. The only thing worth watching are the action sequences, mainly from SM2. The underlying story and dramatic scenes are boring, predicatble, unexciting and uninspiring.
I for one am not hyped for SM3 as much as I thought I'd be or should be. The only decent news I've heard is that there could be 2 villains and thats really it. Church is cast as a villain? So freakin what! :mad: :o There are many good actors that could play spider-man villains so whats the big deal? Announcing Church as a villain doesn't impress me as a good marketing strategy, to me it comes off as weak and pointless. Sony should just announce which villain he's confirmed to be, they might as well because it makes sense.
I'm just glad that SM3 starts filming next year and is released in 2007 because Raimi can now get to see the awsomeness that is going to be batman begins and see how to tell a story. This gives him enough time to get someone to fix what I can only assume is another mediocre script and deliver to us a spidey film that we or at least I can enjoy without wanting to skip through most of the movie just to watch the action sequences.If you're looking for a good argument as to who would be a better villain, I'm sorry. It won't happen because there is really no argument. Any villain from the Spiderman universe could work if done right. Each has their own unique storyline and each is high quality storytelling. Period. It's all a matter of whether Raimi, Ziskin and co. are gonna do it right and we all know the pattern by now.

[Visionary]

Oh come on, don't take away my fun.:o

[Caliber]

If you're looking for a good argument as to who would be a better villain, I'm sorry. It won't happen because there is really no argument. Any villain from the Spiderman universe could work if done right. Each has their own unique storyline and each is high quality storytelling. Period. It's all a matter of whether Raimi, Ziskin and co. are gonna do it right and we all know the pattern by now.

I doubt all the villians could be done right. I think alot of villians would be a bad choice in any film.