John Carter : A Princess of Mars

[DarthSkywalker]

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The landscape hasn't changed. I thought I made it clear that plopping CGI and sets on the landscape didn't change that...

[cherokeesam]

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I don't remember the Mormon Tabernacle being quite that big....:woot:

[DarthSkywalker]

while I agree that there wasn't much to look at, with an understated teaser like this. we haven't seen any of the cities and other aliens. Unless you're too steadfast to notice how many times I've said this to you! ;)

So, are you saying there are parts of Mars vastly different from what I have seen so far?

[Whiskey Tango]

The landscape hasn't changed. I thought I made it clear that plopping CGI and sets on the landscape didn't change that...

The only thing you've made clear is that you don't know much about the books this movie is based on.

[Octoberist]

So, are you saying there are parts of Mars vastly different from what I have seen so far?

it just breaks my geek heart when someone kinda dismisses a project like this.

The teaser under sold te premise but if you read the recent articles about the film (Colider, Slashfilm) the movie should be potentially great.

I mean the Pixar team is behind te film just without the pixar branding. Maybe that's why I'm a little defensive. Visuals aside, this ain't the same fools wrote and directed 'Price of Persia'. Thr problem with my argument is that we don't have much I go by until the next trailer...

[ChickenScratch]

Then maybe my problem is with the source material, which is fine. Doesn't change how I feel about the look of this film.

Oh boy, finding fault with a story you have not read. :whatever:

Especially a fantasy where Mars can be anything the author wishes within the story.

[DarthSkywalker]

The only thing you've made clear is that you don't know much about the books this movie is based on.

I do not need to know source material to know whether the look of a film appeals to me. Never read Harry Potter before I saw the first film. But I knew I liked it the second I saw the first trailer.

it just breaks my geek heart when someone kinda dismisses a project like this.

The teaser under sold te premise but if you read the recent articles about the film (Colider, Slashfilm) the movie should be potentially great.

I mean the Pixar team is behind te film just without the pixar branding. Maybe that's why I'm a little defensive. Visuals aside, this ain't the same fools wrote and directed 'Price of Persia'. Thr problem with my argument is that we don't have much I go by until the next trailer...

I was excited for this. All this talk of how good these stories are, and then I see this trailer and I honestly don't get it. It doesn't feel likes this grand, otherworldly adventure. I mean, I am the guy who actually likes the Dune mini-series. I am not that hard to please.

[DarthSkywalker]

Oh boy, finding fault with a story you have not read. :whatever:

Especially a fantasy where Mars can be anything the author wishes within the story.

Talk about twisting my words. You know it is possible that somethings just doesn't appeal to some folk.

[Paroxysm]

Talk about twisting my words. You know it is possible that somethings just doesn't appeal to some folk.

Dude, we get it. You're not amused. Now that's you've expressed your concerns could you do us all a really big favor and just move on?

[DarthSkywalker]

Dude, we get it. You're not amused. Now that's you've expressed your concerns could you do us all a really big favor and just move on?

I am sorry, but weren't you the one calling me back? And I don't see why I am not allowed to talk about this film, as long as I do it in a manner that is in accordance with the rules of the board?

You don't agree with me, thus I must stop?

[Paroxysm]

I am sorry, but weren't you the one calling me back? And I don't see why I am not allowed to talk about this film, as long as I do it in a manner that is in accordance with the rules of the board?

You don't agree with me, thus I must stop?

You don't have an argument so yes, I think you should stop. The Mars in the film is just like the Mars in the source material. Talk about something else please.

[DarthSkywalker]

You don't have an argument so yes, I think you should stop. The Mars in the film is just like the Mars in the source material. Talk about something else please.

The Mars of the source material does not dictate that I must like how Mars looks on film. After all that is what we are talking about here, the film, the visual medium.

[Paroxysm]

The Mars of the source material does not dictate that I must like how Mars looks on film. After all that is what we are talking about here, the film, the visual medium.

We? No, now it's just you because I done with this crap.

[TheVileOne]

Fanboys are just really protective and defensive about things they like.

[Octoberist]

You're the king of it, Vile :D

[Wolfwood]

Wow, John Carter looks beautiful.

[Marvolo]

Damn I didn't think that BS would end. Now that it is established that this film is the bane of DarthSkywalker's very existence I guess we can move on. I imagine this will be in 3D, am I right?

[Randal Graves]

I imagine this will be in 3D, am I right?
Yep. Converted by Pixar's stereographer.

[DarthSkywalker]

Damn I didn't think that BS would end. Now that it is established that this film is the bane of DarthSkywalker's very existence I guess we can move on. I imagine this will be in 3D, am I right?

No, that would be Zach Snyder.

[Marvolo]

No, that would be Zach Snyder.

LMAO I can't imagine the hate you have reserved for him.

Randal, thanks for the info. I'm suprised they didn't shoot this in 3D.

[Avenger]

I'm not familiar with Burroughs' stories, but I think it looks cool. I think it's kinda lame that they seem too scared to call it John Carter of Mars, though. Just "John Carter" is kind of a blah title, IMO.

[Sgt.Pepper]

I'm suprised they didn't shoot this in 3D.

John Carter wasn't envisioned as a 3D film from the start, so that's why I a bit ticked off that they're going to post-convert it.

[Avenger]

It seems like everything's at least being post-converted to 3D these days.

[DarthSkywalker]

It seems like everything's at least being post-converted to 3D these days.

Not Nolan's films... Yet.

[Kokomo29]

This has probably been mentioned before (sorry if it has) but I think it's kind of weird (and oddly cool) that this movie has quite a few of Marvel Movie actors in it - Taylor Kitsch, Lynn Collins, Willem Dafoe, Thomas Haden Church and Dominic West :yay:

[Marvolo]

John Carter wasn't envisioned as a 3D film from the start, so that's why I a bit ticked off that they're going to post-convert it.


There is no way they would miss out on the possible extra revinue. I think its a waste of money post-converting. If the film wasn't envisioned for 3D it shouldn't be 3D. Post-converting screams money-grab.

[Sgt.Pepper]

There is no way they would miss out on the possible extra revinue. I think its a waste of money post-converting. If the film wasn't envisioned for 3D it shouldn't be 3D. Post-converting screams money-grab.

I agree, movies should film in 3D and post-converted 3D should go hide in a corner and just disappear.

Andrew Stanton was the one that didn't want this project in 3D but as Disney (and other studios) don't see anything other than money in 3D, they went ahead with the post-conversion.

[Octoberist]

The thing that divides directors (old school film supporters like Nolan, Abrams, Speilberg) with filming in 3D is the fact that you have to shoot digitally rather than o. film.

And while digital is getting better (Red Epic) it's beautiful in a different way. film just has a certain look.

[dark_b]

it just breaks my geek heart when someone kinda dismisses a project like this.

The teaser under sold te premise but if you read the recent articles about the film (Colider, Slashfilm) the movie should be potentially great.

I mean the Pixar team is behind te film just without the pixar branding. Maybe that's why I'm a little defensive. Visuals aside, this ain't the same fools wrote and directed 'Price of Persia'. Thr problem with my argument is that we don't have much I go by until the next trailer...wasnt it said that noone from Pixar is working on this movie ? only Stanton?

[Octoberist]

wasnt it said that noone from Pixar is working on this movie ? only Stanton?

nope. Stanton's co-writer worked on Wall-E, and the pixar braintrust gave their input during a private screening thus lead to some reshoots.

Heck, that recent editing room visit by numerous sites was held at pixar.

[dark_b]

you are aware that on every movie a lot of people work on scripts and everything else and they dont get credit. this is normal for a big budget movie.

[Marvolo]

The thing that divides directors (old school film supporters like Nolan, Abrams, Speilberg) with filming in 3D is the fact that you have to shoot digitally rather than o. film.

And while digital is getting better (Red Epic) it's beautiful in a different way. film just has a certain look.

This I completely agree with. Some films require a certain look. For instance, a western IMO should always be shot on film.

[dark_b]

if Deakins uses a digital camera then they are good enough.

[Octoberist]

you are aware that on every movie a lot of people work on scripts and everything else and they dont get credit. this is normal for a big budget movie.

Of course I'm aware! But with Stanton he's using what he can with Pixar. I winnnn!

[dark_b]

i hope its a good movie. Tron was not what i was expecting.

i also noticed that Taylor has 2 difference fces through the trailer. one angry and one normal. and he always has hes mouth open. i hope there is more to this actor

[Hunter Rider]

John Carter: Edit Bay Visit (http://www.empireonline.com/empireblogs/empire-states/post/p1095)

[Sentinel X]

So why was this being compared to Avatar? The trailer was good but what is so groundbreaking about this film? Honestly in terms of aesthetics and sfx tron legacy was far more impressive and I could understand where the avatar comparisons came from. With this I just don't see it....looking forward to it though!

[dark_b]

Avatar story was inspired by John Carter on Mars. maybe this is why they compare it

[dark_b]

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[nightwing06]

Odd that they didnt title it John Carter from Mars,but it still looks epic,and i have read so much about JCFM over the years i will definitely see it in a theatre.

[Project862006]

So why was this being compared to Avatar? The trailer was good but what is so groundbreaking about this film? Honestly in terms of aesthetics and sfx tron legacy was far more impressive and I could understand where the avatar comparisons came from. With this I just don't see it....looking forward to it though!
book was written in early 1900's movies like avatar and star war took lots of influence and material from the book

[Octoberist]

Again, don't e bothered by people who might thnk Carter's a ripoff.

When I saw 'Fellowship of the Ring my friend claimed it ripped off Star Wars. Mind you we were kids back then but ignorance can be a strong beast.

[ChickenScratch]

You were kids when you saw LOTR? How old are you?

[Octoberist]

well of the 16 year old variety

[C. Lee]

I was around 12 when I first read LOTR....about 40 years ago...:awesome:

[dark_b]

did you enjoy LOTR in 2003? had to be a great time right?

[dark_b]

i have a feeling that they are trying to make a connection with Earth and Mars in the movie. because sometimes it looks 100% exactly the same planet.

[Octoberist]

i have a feeling that they are trying to make a connection with Earth and Mars in the movie. because sometimes it looks 100% exactly the same planet.

I think do too, Derk B.

[ChickenScratch]

Yes there is a connection between Earth and Mars, how do you think he got there?

[C. Lee]

did you enjoy LOTR in 2003? had to be a great time right?

The LOTR movies are absolutely fantastic to me. There were deviations from the novels...but they did enough that was straight out of the books and how I had visualized them for 40 years that it didn't matter.

I'm starting to think the John Carter books might get the same reaction from me.

[Rowsdower!]

i hope its a good movie. Tron was not what i was expecting.

i also noticed that Taylor has 2 difference fces through the trailer. one angry and one normal. and he always has hes mouth open. i hope there is more to this actor

The read your post really fast and for a second I thought you said "Taylor has 2 difference feces through the trailer." :wow:

[ALP]

Looking forward to the movie but wasn't crazy on the trailer. Reminded me too much of Prince of Persia.

[protocida]

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[SWAT]

Too much man nipple... :csad:

[protocida]

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[C. Lee]

I didn't notice it when he played Gambit...but Taylor looks a lot like Christian Kane from LEVERAGE in some of those shots.

[squeekness]

Those still shots are just fabulous! :D

[Rowsdower!]

I didn't notice it when he played Gambit...but Taylor looks a lot like Christian Kane from LEVERAGE in some of those shots.

It's funny that you brought him up, because I think that if Jackman even decided to hang it up as Wolverine, Kane would be a good successor. He reminds me a lot of the comic book Logan.

[dark_b]

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Atlantis Lost World :wow::up:

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[Avenger]

I haven't read the books, so forgive me if I'm wrong, but...aren't the (non-green) Martians supposed to be redder? They just look like normal people in the trailer.

[dark_b]

i guess they will have red tattoo's. brings the budget down.

[psylockolussus]

This movie better be good!!!

[Motown Marvel]

the lines of blue light on the ground....what scene is that from the book? i cant recall anything like that....

[Rowsdower!]

Just started reading the book (if you're thinking of picking it up, get the Martian Tales Trilogy version because it's only $9.95 and contains the first three books, versus just getting A Princess of Mars for $7.95). Very captivating so far. I hope the movie does it justice.

[Paroxysm]

Just started reading the book (if you're thinking of picking it up, get the Martian Tales Trilogy version because it's only $9.95 and contains the first three books, versus just getting A Princess of Mars for $7.95). Very captivating so far. I hope the movie does it justice.

Nice! I'll make sure to get the Martian Tales Trilogy instead, I was kinda hoping it would have something like that.

[green]

the lines of blue light on the ground....what scene is that from the book? i cant recall anything like that....

It's been awhile since I've read the book, and can't remember what powered it but my guess would be it's the atmosphere plant.

[squeekness]

Just started reading the book (if you're thinking of picking it up, get the Martian Tales Trilogy version because it's only $9.95 and contains the first three books, versus just getting A Princess of Mars for $7.95). Very captivating so far. I hope the movie does it justice.Buy it for for Kindle for just 99 cents! :D

http://www.amazon.com/John-Carter-Mars-ebook/dp/B003STE5FQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1310936391&sr=1-1

[Motown Marvel]

It's been awhile since I've read the book, and can't remember what powered it but my guess would be it's the atmosphere plant.

i was considering that. except i dont remember dejah thoris ever being in the plant. though, they easily could have changed that in the movie, so...

[CGHulk]

You can download A Princess of Mars the book here, for free. There's nothing illegal about it, it's passed it's copyright.
http://www.archive.org/details/aprincessofmars00062gut
http://www.archive.org/details/APrincessOfMars

Here's more books in the series.
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=john%20carter%20of%20mars

[Sawyer]

This movie better be good!!!

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

[Sawyer]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33351

Marvel is doing a prequel comic. Normally, I wouldn't care much, but it's Peter David, so :up:

[squeekness]

Does this mean Marvel is doing two John Carter books? I posted information on a comic adaptaion of the book itself that Marvel was doing not that long ago.

Have you guys seen this? It's from the September solicits from Marvel:

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JOHN CARTER: A PRINCESS OF MARS #1 (of 5)
Based on the Novel by Edgar Rice Burroughs
Adaptation by Roger Langridge
Art by Filipe Andrade
Cover by Skottie Young
Variant Cover by Filipe Andrade
Captain John Carter finds himself on a strange new world where he must fight for his very life - and for the heart of a princess! Edgar Rice Burroughs' legendary novels come to life in this actionpacked, all-new re-envisioned adventure! Meet the Tharks, terrible warrior race of Mars! See Woola, the scariest guard dog you'll ever lay eyes upon! Gasp as John Carter battles the great white apes of Barsoom! And hold your breath as he first lays eyes upon the woman who will change his life forever - the proud and beautiful Dejah Thoris, Princess of Helium!
32 PGS./All Ages …$2.99

[Lord Blackbolt]

Isn't Dynamite doing a comic version too....with a way more awesome cover.

[Blackman]

The teaser was kinda weak. I felt, kinda like the Watchmen teaser trailer, it didnt do a good job of introducing the story to people whove never heard of it.

And before someone gets pissy, Im not saying they show everything, just a little more to give a little better introduction of the story. Like mention the fact that he's on "Mars" at least

And even if not the story the trailer didnt have any shot that I think people would go like "Holy sh** I need to see this"

Still looking forward to it. BUt it surprises me how many people say it looks like Price of Persia...I mean wtf

[Doctor Jones]

Mars should look more stunning. This just looks like it was filmed in a desert canyon location. It doesn't really do a great job of making it look unique. Making thingd completely red could limit a lot of the cinematography, as red is difficult to photograph, but the cinematography isn't doing anything for me. They could have jazzed things up. This is still a while away from finished, but I hope they can make it look more unique.

[ChickenScratch]

Hmm, looks like how I imagined it from the books. It's not like the Barsoom environment was that crazy (at the point of writing the book we didn't know that much about Mars). Sure it looks like earth, a dieing earth that never reached the level of populous we reached.

[Octoberist]

I guess at night, I was expecting it to look more stylized. at the sametime, the lack of CG is kinda refreshing.

[squeekness]

Isn't Dynamite doing a comic version too....with a way more awesome cover.I have no idea. I know that the Marvel cover I posted did look sketchy and weak. I like way more detail in my art than that. Although since Disney owns Marvel and Disney Pixar is doing this movie, it makes more sense for Marvel to be doing all and any comics that deal with John Carter.

[redhawk23]

John Carter is public domain isn't it? So basically any company is free to make a comic. Releasing it at the same time as the movie would be an easy cash in.

Mars should look more stunning. This just looks like it was filmed in a desert canyon location. It doesn't really do a great job of making it look unique. Making thingd completely red could limit a lot of the cinematography, as red is difficult to photograph, but the cinematography isn't doing anything for me. They could have jazzed things up. This is still a while away from finished, but I hope they can make it look more unique.


While it could definitely go for a bit for visual flair (though who knows what we'll see in the full movie). Real life mars is kind of dessert/canyon-like the film definitely needs some reddish sand.

However if a shot like the one below makes it into the film, we're good to go.
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And then even from what we have, this shot looks pretty awesome
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[dark_b]

a bald guy in a blockbuster. is it Mark Strong hehe ;)

[redhawk23]

35 years ago today, the first successful Mars lander, Viking 1, sent back this picture.

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[Rowsdower!]

35 years ago today, the first successful Mars lander, Viking 1, sent back this picture.

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Where are the Transformers? :hehe:

[terry78]

Honestly, if you're expecting Mars to look like it does in the Marvin the Martian cartoons, doubt it was gonna fly. Obviously Stanton is doing it in a somewhat grounded manner, the way Mars would actually be depicted had this happened.

[Rowsdower!]

Fair enough. But Marvin should have a cameo! :D

[redhawk23]

Judgeing from the shot I reposted with the bald guy, I'm sure overall the film will be good on this front, but the Red planet just doesnt seem red enough in many of those shots.

[squeekness]

Maybe it's not so red up close. :p

[Fanticon]

saw the trailer today with capt.A. Looks good, but someone in the theater sitting near me said "is that he-man". Shoulda kept "of Mars" in the title.

[glorynation]

well a focus group would disagree :cmad: john carter of mars is a far better title

[Rowsdower!]

How about John Carter: Get Your Ass to Mars?

[Kane52630]

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I didn't comment but this shot alone give me goosebumps for some reason. It's a beautiful shot for one plus the music by Peter Gabriel made it that much better.
I can't wait to see this. I Just hope it's really good.

[squeekness]

How about John Carter: Get Your Ass to Mars?Brilliant! :D

[Rowsdower!]

Thanks!

[Rowsdower!]

Did they release any concept art that shows what Woola will look like?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I've never actually read these books but my Dad raves about them and I can see they have inspired a lot of sci-fi movies over the years, however, I thought the trailer looked weak, I wasnt impressed in the slightest and was expecting to be, hopefully the next one has a bit more of a 'wow' factor.

[squeekness]

This trailer really didn't show much of the alien guys so hopefully they will show up in the next one and really wow us some more. :)

[maenalus]

I don't really know what to think about this movie yet. The trailer is too dour and sad, it needs to have a much more romping adventure tone says I.

[CGHulk]

I'm hoping we haven't seen anything yet. I'm also hoping we'll see a more Frazetta (fantasy looking) type look when this film is finished.

[Sgt.Pepper]

I'm hoping we haven't seen anything yet. I'm also hoping we'll see a more Frazetta (fantasy looking) type look when this film is finished.

I hate to disappoint you, but they're going with a unique look that's different from Frank Franzetta's artwork as they found it somewhat dated.

[CGHulk]

I hate to disappoint you, but they're going with a unique look that's different from Frank Franzetta's artwork as they found it somewhat dated.

Yeah, I can agree with that, creativity is somewhat dated!

Where's the source/article of that opinion by the filmmakers?

[Sgt.Pepper]

The link to the article doesn't work, but I did found it anyway.

New Look For Carter Of Mars?

Andrew Stanton, who is writing and directing John Carter of Mars, based on Edgar Rice Burroughs' books, told SCI FI Wire that he and co-writer Mark Andrews will be putting their own spin on the iconic story, and a Pixar manager added that the film will have a unique look as well.

"I'm going to do what I remember more than what they exactly do" in the books, Stanton said cryptically in a group interview at the Emeryville, Calif., headquarters of Pixar on Sept. 25.

Stanton (WALL*E) added that he is currently deep in writing with partner Andrews, a storyboard artist at Pixar, on the script for Carter. "John Carter of Mars is what I'm writing right now with Mark Andrews," Stanton said. "Writing, it's all about writing this year."

Jim Morris, general manager at Pixar Animation, promised that the movie will not look like previous attempts to adapt the franchise for the screen. "Everything that's been out there has been an attempt to kind of capture this Deco-esque [Frank] Frazetta vision of John Carter, which I think feels old and stale," he said. "And where Stanton is going--from what we've seen so far--is very different than that. And I think that the people who really love the essence of the books will really dig it, but so will audiences in general."

Asked if the film would be in 3-D, Morris added, "I hope not!"

The film is based on the early 20th-century Barsoom series of books by Burroughs, the California author of the Tarzan series. It centers on a Civil War veteran who finds himself transported to the Red Planet and caught up in various battles and intrigues involving giant green creatures and an alluring princess.

It's been reported that Carter may incorporate live-action elements amid animation. Stanton's WALL*E was the first Pixar production to incorporate live action. Morris declined to discuss the matter.

"John Carter is in its very early stages and there is much to figure out about that so we'd be premature," Morris said. "We are looking at a variety of different approaches and techniques for that ... We're kind of a bit early in the development of that."

Morris added: "I'm sure I speak for all of the science fiction geeks, fans and aficionados when I say it's finally time to see that movie. And I, for one, am delighted that Andrew Stanton is the guy that's making the movie, because he's a story-driven guy." --Patrick Lee, News Editor

[dark_b]

Yeah, I can agree with that, creativity is somewhat dated!

Where's the source/article of that opinion by the filmmakers?:awesome::woot:

[Rowsdower!]

I'm hoping we haven't seen anything yet. I'm also hoping we'll see a more Frazetta (fantasy looking) type look when this film is finished.

I think the reason the trailer is so minimal is because a LOT isn't finished yet, effects-wise. And as we saw with Green Lantern, releasing a trailer with unfinished CGI can really hurt sentiment about an upcoming movie. I think once the second, full trailer is released (whenever that may be) we're all going to be like, WHOOAAAHHH!!!

I mean, there are so many things that they didn't show (if they follow the book closely)... aerial battles, green and red martian wars, Carter and Kantos battling scores of monsters in a coliseum, Princess Dejah naked ;)... I'm sure once we see these things, a lot of people will be sold on this movie.

And if not, well, we'll always have that other John Carter movie with the underwear model and the porn star. :D

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[Whiskey Tango]

From the front page. (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/168249-d23-expo-the-john-carter-presentation)

Walt Disney Pictures is kicking off a busy year of blockbusters with the March 9th release of John Carter, previewed this morning at Anaheim's D23 Expo.

"I assumed that live-action would move faster than animation," joked director Andrew Stanton backstage to SuperHeroHype, "and was used to being on films that could last up to four years. This is just a few months shy of that by the end of my time with it. It's actually way more familiar than I thought it would be."

The first scene showcased had John Carter (Taylor Kitsch) waking up on Mars and wandering, bewildered, up a hill. He finds a large rock that looks like it has a symbol on it. He clears off some of the dust and finds it filled with eggs, which start to hatch. Out pop what seem like hundreds of baby Thark aliens. In the distance, Carter sees Thark riders coming out to meet him, and doesn't notice Willem Dafoe's character (Tars Tarkas) coming up alongside him. Not sharing a common language, Carter instinctively jumps away, not realizing that Mars' lesser gravity gives him seemingly super-powered abilities.

The riders arrive, shooting at where Carter hid. Tars manages to talk them down, and he says he will deal with the strange being. He puts down all his weapons and puts up all four of his hands to approach Carter. Carter sees that the weapons are gone, and slowly comes out. Carter and the Tharks bumble their way through first contact, with Jeddak successfully introducing himself and Tars thinking that Carter's name is Virginia.

Tars asks if Carter could jump for him again. Carter sees this as an opportunity and leaps over Tars to his pile of weapons. Tars is horrified as his comrades-at-arms pull out their guns and runs to try to stop the violence. Despite Carter holding his own gun at him, Tars throws himself around him. The screen cuts to black, there are gunshots, and Tars screams.

Dafoe, Kitsch and Collins were then brought out to talk about their characters. Dafoe had to wear three foot tall stilts every single day of shooting to help create the realism of the nine-foot tall Tharks.

"You just gotta deal with being nine feet tall," Dafoe grinned, "That's where you start and that's an important place to start. You have to feel comfortable on stilts and basically perform a movie on stilts. I've also got four arms, so there are certain times when I'm doing things with my real arms and I have to be assisted with some puppetry to animate the other ones."

The second clip had Carter held captive in a Thark nursery. Realizing he has immense strength on Mars, he tries to pull his rusty chains loose as a bizarre dog/lizard with ten legs approaches sleepily. When it seems to conk out, Carter rips his chains off the wall and leaps to another landing, only to find the creature waiting for him. He leaps again, and the creature again is waiting for him. The creature can run as fast as Carter can jump, it seems, and Carter just can't shake him.

The third clip was between John Carter and Dejah Thoris. Dejah is betrothed to marry a man she despises for the peace of her people, but Carter appears in her bed chambers. When Carter tells her not to marry the man, she demands that he give her a reason. Carter hesitates, looking at what looks to be a wedding band on his hand. Sensing this, Dejah pulls out a pendant Carter had on him when he (presumably) first appeared on Mars. She explains she has deciphered how to send him back, if that's what he chooses. All he needs to do is hold it and say a series of sounds. Guards start pounding at the door as Carter repeats the syllables and the pendant glows. As Dejah speaks the last sound, the door bursts open and the guards ask Dejah if she is alone. She looks for Carter, but he is nowhere to be seen.

"At first there was a whole lot of trepidation that went into [playing Deja Thoris] because she's so iconic," Collins told us, "Because she's the most beautiful woman in the universe and blah blah blah. I went into it feeling really into her and left feeling like a woman who had come into her own. At the end of the day, that's really what Deja Thoris is. We all have that masculine fight. We all have that feminine compassion. We can all work it out and make our bodies look great... Hopefully women and girls will access that say, 'Hey, that girl could be me!' Because they can. and boys will say, 'Hey, that could be my partner!' because it could."

The final clip had Carter and Tarkas held in a gladiatorial arena of a rival Thark clan. Tars is gravely injured already and Carter is chained to a huge rock. Try as he might his strength is no match this time. The Tharks unleash a creature called a white ape into the arena. It's absolutely massive, easily 12 feet tall, and walks on two legs and two arms in its midsection. It's coated in a white fur, and its second set of arms seem primarily for smashing things. It sniffs out Tars, as it's apparently blind. As it moves in to kill Tars, Carter smashes his chains against the ground, pulling the beast's attention away. As it approaches him, the camera turns to the bored looking Thark leader.

"Release the other one," he says, and the screen cuts to black.

After the footage was unveiled to the audience, Kitsch acknowledged the relief in finally sharing what has been years of work.

"You feel like you're sharing in some kind of journey that we all undertook," he smiled, "It's an exciting time to finally share all this."

John Carter hits theaters in 3D, 2D and IMAX 3D on March 9th.

[Rowsdower!]

Interesting. There was also some stuff about this on CBM.

It sounds like Carter is not immortal in the movie (or perhaps does not realize he is immortal at first), and discovers a portal to Mars rather than dying and astral projecting himself there. That's a little disappointing (IMO) but it might not be a big deal. I'm guessing that he is actually an immortal since we know that he "dies" in the movie from the trailer and one would assume that he probably comes back to life on Mars.

The Mars/Barsoom scenes sound incredible. Can't wait to see that gladiatorial battle.

[TheVileOne]

The footage didn't play very well and the reaction was lukewarm. I'm just not really getting into this project. I don't think Kitsch is going to be a big leading man, and I hear the budget for this was out of control.

My other problem with the footage is that it looks like Stanton is cutesying the material up. Lots of cutesy Disney critters. My problem with that is that this is a dying world that has descended into barbarism. All the cute animal crap sort of kills the tone. Disney is already pandering a lot by calling it John Carter instead of A Princess of Mars.

I didn't like the Dejah/Carter scene. Carter is conflicted because of loyalty toward his Earth wife or something and tries to hide his wedding ring. Dejah notes that her wedding gown is too vulgar for her tastes. Umm what? Burroughs book had Martian women be virtually naked. Stanton has clearly taken a lot of liberties in interpreting the material. He showed an image of Frazetta painting of John Carter and it just seems nothing like that. He's totally Disney-fied the material. The footage reminded me of the Prince of Persia. Basically looks like Prince of Persia on Mars. I don't like how the Tharks look either.

[Octoberist]

While I know that the footage didn't wow the press, there's a part of me who says dont be too dismissive because Andrew Stanton is talented and they even got Michael Chabon. If they manage to screw up. then that's heartbreaking.

[TheVileOne]

Andrew Stanton is talented but he's still in uncharted territory here.

Look at Rob Minkoff. Good, talented guy and he made one of the most successful and hailed animated movies ever in The Lion King. Look at his live action efforts: Haunted Mansion and The Forbidden Kingdom.

Also, freaking Taylor Kitsch's awful acting and execution. I wasn't getting the conflict in his scene with Dejah Thoris at all. Also, my understanding is that Chabon only did some re-writes and revisions.

[Whiskey Tango]

I must admit I've felt like Kitsch would be the weak link. Still hopeful tho.

[Octoberist]

we will see.

[Octoberist]

Sobim assuming it's not the CG but the actual designs that make ye tharks cartoony looking? It might be the placement of the eyes and long face.

[TheVileOne]

It is both really. It looks like Stanton brought too much of his Pixar self to the table by making lots of charcacters that are too cute.

Case in point, John stumbles on a Tharks nursery and out hatch these cute little baby Tharks. Another scene, Carter is imprisoned, but he's imprisoned with these ****ing baby Tharks! Why is he imprisoned amongst their little babies?! So the baby Tharks are cuddling up to him and sleeping on him. Then he meets this big Martian dog that acts like this big, cute dog that follows him everywhere.

The Tharks don't look like this threatening, tribalism warrior race. They look way too friendly and unthreatening. They look more like Gungans from Star Wars instead of say Orcs from Lord of The Rings.

This movie looks about as edgy as a spoon. I thought this was supposed to be a pretty harsh, barbaric world.

[Whiskey Tango]

The dog *is* a big cuddly thing, although the books describe it as looking somewhat monstrous. The babies I would expect to be somewhat cute. And if memory serves he was being watched over by one of the women along with the babies, this was after the Tharks determined he wasn't a threat but still worth keeping an eye on.

[TheVileOne]

Well maybe Stanton has it right then. I just think they look way too Disneyfied cute.

[dark_b]

VileOne did you see the footage?

is it true that Kitsch has just one face that he uses?

[TheVileOne]

I was at D23 and saw all the footage.

Kitsch is very blank and not in a good stone faced, stoic quality that classic actors I had. I think maybe he and Stanton wanted to mimic that style but didn't do a very good job. He's got this hot scantily clad woman in front of him and he barely reacts at all. Like I don't get the conflict of his choice of choosing between the woman and going home.

[JakeSully]

John Carter Exclusive Sneak Peak

http://www.blackfilm.com/read/2011/10/john-carter-exclusive-sneak-peak/

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3883/johncarterpicg.jpg

[dark_b]

lets hope they fixed the green skin

[Lord]

It is both really. It looks like Stanton brought too much of his Pixar self to the table by making lots of charcacters that are too cute.

Case in point, John stumbles on a Tharks nursery and out hatch these cute little baby Tharks. Another scene, Carter is imprisoned, but he's imprisoned with these ****ing baby Tharks! Why is he imprisoned amongst their little babies?! So the baby Tharks are cuddling up to him and sleeping on him. Then he meets this big Martian dog that acts like this big, cute dog that follows him everywhere.

The Tharks don't look like this threatening, tribalism warrior race. They look way too friendly and unthreatening. They look more like Gungans from Star Wars instead of say Orcs from Lord of The Rings.

This movie looks about as edgy as a spoon. I thought this was supposed to be a pretty harsh, barbaric world.
Where did you see those scenes?
They weren't on the trailer :wow:

[Motown Marvel]

The third clip was between John Carter and Dejah Thoris. Dejah is betrothed to marry a man she despises for the peace of her people, but Carter appears in her bed chambers. When Carter tells her not to marry the man, she demands that he give her a reason. Carter hesitates, looking at what looks to be a wedding band on his hand. Sensing this, Dejah pulls out a pendant Carter had on him when he (presumably) first appeared on Mars. She explains she has deciphered how to send him back, if that's what he chooses. All he needs to do is hold it and say a series of sounds. Guards start pounding at the door as Carter repeats the syllables and the pendant glows. As Dejah speaks the last sound, the door bursts open and the guards ask Dejah if she is alone. She looks for Carter, but he is nowhere to be seen.[/I]

ehhhhhhh.....

[rogue trooper]

John Carter Exclusive Sneak Peak

http://www.blackfilm.com/read/2011/10/john-carter-exclusive-sneak-peak/

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3883/johncarterpicg.jpg

That looks pretty good!

[ThePowerCosmic]

John Carter Exclusive Sneak Peak

http://www.blackfilm.com/read/2011/10/john-carter-exclusive-sneak-peak/

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3883/johncarterpicg.jpg

Wooo! I think that this movie is going to surprise people by how good it'll be. Kind of like what Rise of the Planet of the Apes did.

[ThePowerCosmic]

This must be what the White Apes in the Colosseum scene look like! I've been dying to see the scene, it sounds like it'll be a thrill to watch:

http://www.blackfilm.com/read/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/John-Carter-pic-5.jpg

Another image of a Thark, these people look great:

http://www.blackfilm.com/read/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/John-Carter-pic-3.jpg

Some cool martian weaponry.

http://www.blackfilm.com/read/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/John-Carter-pic-9.jpg

[terry78]

I think some fans were expecting the Tharks to look all monstrous as opposed to actually aesthetically cool looking.

[moviedoors]

I'm crazy in love with ambitious sci fi world building, but I can't lie, I have a bad feeling about this. I want to be dead wrong. I want to see full bore sci fi done with real sincerity and passion, but I can't shake that feeling. That orange and teal look of the trailer was a big turn off too. I really hope that it's just the piss poor marketing campaign they've got going and that the movie itself is going to deliver. Please?

[THANOSRULES]

The bad feeling is "the chronicles of riddick" not to be confused with the "chronicles of Narnia" effect (syndrome)

There off to the right start by omitting any mention of chronicles in the title at all.

It looks like it might be too far reaching. I think we all know why these movies tend to flop, but they can be done right.

[Guhndoi]

It looks kinda cool but I also have a feeling It won't be as good as it can be.

Never seen the Asylum one.

[Hunter Rider]

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8988/9887.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/9887.jpg/)

These should look awesome onscreen.

[Whiskey Tango]

Ya those apes are much larger than I imagined.

[TheVileOne]

Lord the scenes I described were shown at D23. And the White Ape is huge.

[craigdbfan]

How good was the cgi for the ape polar bear thing?

[dark_b]

the white apes have white fur. and today in CGI this is the hardest part to do. there is a reason why in Avatar they stayed away from furry characters.

i am watching TinTin in november and Carter in december. but i will not watch JC in 3D. after Thor i am not going to pay for a 3D converted movie. f.... you hollywood.

[TheVileOne]

It looked alright. Like it didn't look "real" but it was impressive work. Really big and menacing. The scene was reminiscent of the first segment of the coliseum/monster fight in Attack of the Clones.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Bet they'll look much better by next year.

[squeekness]

the white apes have white fur. and today in CGI this is the hardest part to do. there is a reason why in Avatar they stayed away from furry characters.

i am watching TinTin in november and Carter in december. but i will not watch JC in 3D. after Thor i am not going to pay for a 3D converted movie. f.... you hollywood.I am with you on this, 3D isn't all it's cracked up to be when it's done half assed. :( Thor was awful in 3D.

[dark_b]

i made a mistake. Carter is not in december. its march. NOOOOOOO

[THANOSRULES]

the white apes have white fur. and today in CGI this is the hardest part to do. there is a reason why in Avatar they stayed away from furry characters.

i am watching TinTin in november and Carter in december. but i will not watch JC in 3D. after Thor i am not going to pay for a 3D converted movie. f.... you hollywood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTE6S6x8ixA

Not horrible, but not great either. Some camera tricks used there to make the YETI have less screen exposure.

THis movie should have better examples I'm hoping.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Taylor Kitsch John Carter MTV Interview: http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/698087/taylor-kitsch-was-willing-to-do-anything-for-john-carter.jhtml#id=1672003

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2011/10/kitsch-collins/taylor-kitsch-lynn-collins-john-carter-08.jpg

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2011/10/kitsch-collins/taylor-kitsch-lynn-collins-john-carter-09.jpg

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2011/10/kitsch-collins/taylor-kitsch-lynn-collins-john-carter-02.jpg

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2011/10/kitsch-collins/taylor-kitsch-lynn-collins-john-carter-13.jpg

[terry78]

Yeah, that baby Thark looks very Pixar-ish.

[rogue trooper]

Very much like what I'm seeing!!

[Hunter Rider]

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6969/taylorkitschlynncollins.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/265/taylorkitschlynncollins.jpg/)

This is magnificent, who is making these pieces and how much do they cost?

[kickass]

I think this looks very interesting. Gives me a Stargate feeling. Is this based on a book by any chance?

[C. Lee]

Is this based on a book by any chance?

Seriously? :dry:

[terry78]

Seriously? :dry:

Just let it ride. It'll be much more fun.

[Sawyer]

Is this based on a book by any chance?

No, it's an ER spinoff.

[kickass]

I'm not familiar with this series and didn't look at the previous page to clue in because I was reading 3 other things. Excuse my ignorance, but that's why these mssg boards exist in the first place; to pass information along. There's no reason to be douche bags about it.

[Whiskey Tango]

I'm not familiar with this series and didn't look at the previous page to clue in because I was reading 3 other things. Excuse my ignorance, but that's why these mssg boards exist in the first place; to pass information along. There's no reason to be douche bags about it.

To answer your Q, yes it is based on a (series) of books by Edgar Rice Burroughs (creator of Tarzan), the first of which (A Princess of Mars, which this film largely draws from) appeared in 1912.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barsoom#The_Barsoom_series

[Rowsdower!]

Those designs are pretty damned badass. The baby Thark does look a little Pixar-esque, but I can let that slide because if they didn't make the babies look somewhat cute, they'd come of freakish and creepy. Because let's face it. All babies are ugly.

[kickass]

To answer your Q, yes it is based on a (series) of books by Edgar Rice Burroughs (creator of Tarzan), the first of which (A Princess of Mars, which this film largely draws from) appeared in 1912.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barsoom#The_Barsoom_series

Thank you, Whiskey Tango! 1912, that long ago, huh? I might just check these books out. I'm cautious though, because I fear the movie might disappoint if I really get into the books lol.

[ThePowerCosmic]

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/3331/24301973.png

[squeekness]

^^:D Thanks for posting that.

[SuperSoldier985]

"A Princess of Mars"?

[dark_b]

''pixar tackles real life humans''


hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[ven-numb]

"A Princess of Mars"?

Oh yes... a Princess

http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/4/4d/DejahThoris_sculp_96.jpg

[Kane52630]

''pixar tackles real life humans''


hmmmmmmmmmmmm

dark b makes a post


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[dark_b]

i dont think Pixar is working on this movie

[squeekness]

A Princess who lays eggs when she gives birth. :p Sexy.

[terry78]

Oh yes... a Princess

http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/4/4d/DejahThoris_sculp_96.jpg

They were never going to cast an actress with that body type, ever. No slight muffin tops are allowed in movies, even if it would be art accurate.

[Secret Fawful]

Oh yes... a Princess

http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/4/4d/DejahThoris_sculp_96.jpg

It ticks me off to no end that THIS isn't what we're getting in a John Carter movie. Conan the Barbarian would have. Stupid Disney censorship.

[TheVileOne]

They were never going to cast an actress with that body type, ever. No slight muffin tops are allowed in movies, even if it would be art accurate.
I wouldn't call that a muffin top, just some nice child-bearing hips and a toned abdomen.

[Octoberist]

It ticks me off to no end that THIS isn't what we're getting in a John Carter movie. Conan the Barbarian would have. Stupid Disney censorship.

Think about it for one sex: Even if its not Disney (Like Paramount before it) I'd doubt the Princess would be near-naked for the whole movie.

[EML420]

Im really looking forward to this movie and if does good Disney will turn it into a franchise for sure.

[TheVileOne]

Think about it for one sex: Even if its not Disney (Like Paramount before it) I'd doubt the Princess would be near-naked for the whole movie.
Freudian slip.

[dark_b]

Think about it for one sex: Even if its not Disney (Like Paramount before it) I'd doubt the Princess would be near-naked for the whole movie.they are even showing more skin in the trailer then i expected. which is good. :yay:

[dark_b]

fanboys like to use their logic and numbers for when a movie made enough money .for a sequel

now back to reallity
http://www.slashfilm.com/john-carter-700-million-earn-sequel/


hehehe :lmao:

[Secret Fawful]

Think about it for one sex: Even if its not Disney (Like Paramount before it) I'd doubt the Princess would be near-naked for the whole movie.

I'm not talking just about apparel. I'm talking about BODY TYPE too. I mean, Robert Rodriguez isn't afraid to cast according to proper body type, sans Jessica Alba in Sin City, which I'll expect with Fire and Ice.

[dark_b]

i think Collins has a good body type for this movie. she has some muscles and fat on her bones.

[Sgt.Pepper]

I'm not really sure if John Carter has a chance to earn $700 million. I wish I was more confident in the movie and Stanton but it's going to be difficult to earn that much, unless Disney uses one hell of a good marketing.

[Octoberist]

I'm curious about the box office too. it's hard to say. March is a money month but there's no way it'll hit 700 million unless we have another Avatar here.

[kickass]

It will make better than Conan, for sure. But how much more? I don't know. I know the film is 5 months away......but when should they start rolling out an aggressive campaign? 2-1 month before release? I just don't feel the hype for this thing.

[redhawk23]

They really need to add "Of Mars" back into the title. The M in the logo despited it noninclusion is infuriating and as has been comented before, makes this really generic.

[terry78]

Disney is scared of Mars after that CG fiasco last March.

[mclay18]

Andrew Stanton tweeted that he finally locked picture on John Carter. So, barring color correction, music recording, sound mixing, and 3D conversion -- the movie is done.

http://twitter.com/#!/6Mman/status/128606667251265538/photo/1

Man, Disney doesn't want to waste time, do they?

[ThePowerCosmic]

Wow, that's great to hear. A trailer should be coming pretty soon.

[squeekness]

So what we've been watching is a teaser....? LOL, shure looked like a trailer to me. :D

[zanos]

The teaser is practically dead. Teasers these days are usually reserved for expensive and highly publicized and anticipated films.

Btw, I finally read the book like a month ago.

[ThePowerCosmic]

So what we've been watching is a teaser....? LOL, shure looked like a trailer to me. :D

I never said we didn't get an earlier trailer, nor did I call it a teaser. I said we should be getting a trailer pretty soon since the movie's done. The trailer will be more revealing and probably show off the film's action, unlike the first one.

[squeekness]

It would be nice to see more of the martian critters. :)

[AnorexicBatman]

Can anyone give me a brief overview of what John Carter is about? Besides Victorian Every-man becoming Martian Conan with Steampunk tech and fantastic creatures? I loved the trailer!

[Octoberist]

They really need to add "Of Mars" back into the title. The M in the logo despited it noninclusion is infuriating and as has been comented before, makes this really generic.

Yeah the 'M' in the logo is such a strange tease.

[protocida]

Character Descriptions.

JOHN CARTER (Taylor Kitsch).

“No good’ll come out of me fightin’ your war.”

Born in Virginia, John Carter served as an officer in the Confederate army in the Civil War. He is an honorable and courageous hero, but the ravages of the Civil War have left him broken, dispirited and personally defeated. Accidentally transported to Barsoom (Mars), Carter begins to realize that his strength and jumping abilities are greatly amplified in the low gravity of the planet. Carter reluctantly begins a journey to rediscover his humanity while at the same time saving his newfound world.

DEJAH THORIS (Lynn Collins).

“If you had the means to save others, would you not take any action possible to make it so?”

Dejah Thoris, the beautiful, raven-haired princess of Helium, is a passionate advocate for the Heliumites and their way of life. Dejah is Regent of the Royal Academy of Science, and was trained to rule and fight. She is on the verge of a discovery that could permanently shift the balance of power between her nation Helium and their enemy Zodanga. But time is running out, and Dejah must convince John Carter to enlist in the fight to save Helium.

TARS TARKAS (Willem Dafoe).

“When I saw you leap into the sky, I wished to believe it was a sign that something new can come into this world.”

Tars Tarkas is a fierce green Martian warrior who is the Jeddak (King) of the Tharks. The last vestige of nobility runs in his blood and is the only thing that keeps the Thark tribe from turning into beasts. Blessed with a good sense of humor and patience, Tars befriends the earthman John Carter and gives him the Thark name Dotar Sojat, which roughly translates as “my right arms.”

KANTOS KAN (James Purefoy).

“Hello, ladies.”

Kantos Kan is the Odwar (Captain) of the Helium air navy and is fiercely loyal to Tardos Mors and his daughter, Dejah Thoris. Intelligent, handsome and brave, Kantos will do anything in his power to fight for Helium and protect the royal family.

SAB THAN (Dominic West).

“Death to Helium!”

Sab Than is the Jeddak (King) of Zodanga. He is impulsive, arrogant and aggressive, promoting war and conquest as the Zodangan way of life. With a dangerously calculated charm, Sab will even try to make a deal with the devil to destroy Helium and rule all of Barsoom.

MATAI SHANG (Mark Strong).

“We do not cause the destruction of a world, Captain Carter. We simply manage it. Feed off it, if you like.”

Matai Shang is the Holy Hekkador (King) of the Therns. Using their advanced technology, the mysterious Therns represent themselves as the messengers of the Barsoomian Goddess Issus in order to manipulate their own plans.

COLONEL POWELL (Bryan Cranston).

“Captain, I’m finding it difficult to reconcile the man on this piece of paper with the one I’m looking at.”

Colonel Powell is a seasoned, by-the-book, tough-as-nails U.S. cavalry officer. Powell’s mission is to enlist John Carter to fight the Apaches from his unit’s outpost in the Arizona Territory. He is thwarted in this by John Carter’s abject refusal to have anything to do with the military—or any cause, no matter how just.

EDGAR RICE BURROUGHS (Daryl Sabara).

“My mother always said Jack never really came back from the war.”

Edgar Rice Burroughs is John Carter’s inquisitive 18-year-old nephew. Edgar adores his Uncle John and as a child enjoyed listening to wild tales he spun that took him on journeys to places Edgar could hardly even imagine. Burroughs receives an urgent telegram from his Uncle and rushes to him — only to find it may be too late.

[terry78]

I do confess that I like the fact that they tie in the novel as basically something that actually happened that we assumed was fiction.

[Whiskey Tango]

Purefoy, West, Strong, Cranston... wowee.:wow:

[spider_rob]

So does Kantos Kan betray the good guys later on?

[TheWiseGuy487]

Wait, Bryan Cranston is in this?!?

Now I have to see this film!

[Kane52630]

Purefoy, West, Strong, Cranston... wowee.:wow:

Yeah its a terrific cast. I'm glad to see Purefoy getting more roles. Solomon Kane was amazing.

[Whiskey Tango]

Yeah its a terrific cast. I'm glad to see Purefoy getting more roles. Solomon Kane was amazing.

haven't seen Kane yet unfortunately but he was one of my favorites on Rome.

[squeekness]

I want to see Soloman Kane but it hasn't come to DVD here in the States. :(

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=84597

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8921/johncarterew.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/683/johncarterew.jpg/)

[Rowsdower!]

F*** YEAH!!!!!! That looks awesome!

[kickass]

Love that photo. I'm going to start reading the first book of this series as soon as I'm done the last Hunger Games.

[ThePowerCosmic]

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2011/11/21/JOHN-CARTER_810.jpg

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2011/11/21/JOHN-CARTER_320.jpg

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So tell me about these White Apes in your film. They’re from the books, but I recall they’re not quite this ginormous?

ANDREW STANTON: No, they’re sort of an oversized gorilla in the books, and they’re kind of ubiquitous. They’re littered everywhere through at least the first several novels. They were always cool, just from a visceral standpoint, [but] they don’t really have a narrative function in the first book. So what we did is we made the White Apes a formidable creature that you kind of hear about throughout the movie, but you never really witness. There’s a subtle sense of anticipation for what these things might be like. Then Michael Kutsche — who did a lot of the designs on [the Johnny Depp movie] Alice in Wonderland – came up with this design on his own, for just their scale. He made them nocturnal, almost like moles — they stopped using their eyes, and just had a heightened sense of smell. We just love that. We needed a scene where Carter was going have to get out of his execution sentence in order to move the story forward, and we thought what better than having to go up against this formidable creature?



EW: How has John Carter come to find himself in this predicament?

AS: I don’t want to give any spoilers away, but basically he needs an army to solve his big problem in the third act, and the only army he knows was his previous captors. When he goes back, the game has changed, and he gets incarcerated. This is what he has to get out of. He has to get out of jail and not get killed by these apes in order to get his bigger problem solved.



EW:This picture might imply that he’s screwed, but he isn’t completely helpless, right? He’s got some skills?

AS: He’s not Superman. He has this one Superman-like ability where he can leap farther than we can here [on Earth]. But it’s like being a man on the moon. It can’t be forever. He can build up momentum. This green species called Tharks, they know his one special jumping ability, so they chain him to a rock. It’s entertainment. It’s entertainment to watch this execution. They give him a nice long length of chain, so he can bounce around, but he can’t go out of the arena. It’s an interesting problem to have for that guy.



EW:I’m sure John Carter is thinking right now, “This is a really interesting problem.”

AS:[Chuckles.] Right. And you’ve got these apes that can’t see, but they can smell really well. So it gives you a slight chance to not be killed immediately.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/11/23/taylor-kitsch-john-carter-white-ape-first-look/

[squeekness]

I get that magazine! :D

[ThePowerCosmic]

I knew this movie would look fantastic! Can't wait for another trailer.

[Panthro]

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2011/11/21/JOHN-CARTER_810.jpg

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2011/11/21/JOHN-CARTER_320.jpg



http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/11/23/taylor-kitsch-john-carter-white-ape-first-look/

Having flashbacks to both Jason & The Argonauts and Episode II. Hopefully JC of Mars will be better than the latter.

[DarkSovereignty]

that pic looks f***ing sweet. I wasn't too excited about this movie (mostly because I haven't been following its production at all) but after that color me interested. has me way more intrigued that the trailer did.

[ThePowerCosmic]

I didn't even notice all of the Tharks watching in the stands, so many of them.

[Superhero 101]

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2011/11/21/JOHN-CARTER_810.jpg



This movie just sparked my interest bar!

[rogue trooper]

Having flashbacks to both Jason & The Argonauts and Episode II. Hopefully JC of Mars will be better than the latter.

.....that, and Sinbad and The Eye of The Tiger! So hyped!!

[Jake Cassidy]

purefoy, west, strong, cranston... Wowee.:wow:

Don't forget Dafoe.

[Hunter Rider]

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2011/11/21/JOHN-CARTER_810.jpg


Reminds me of the arena battle on Geonosis, hopefully the sequence is as good.

[Mogwai]

those pics look great. can't wait.

[Rowsdower!]

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2011/11/21/JOHN-CARTER_810.jpg

"COME AT ME BRO!!!"

[ThePowerCosmic]

Reminds me of the arena battle on Geonosis, hopefully the sequence is as good.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. While I liked the arena battle, I'm hoping for something even better in John Carter.

[RED_Rider]

This film need a kickass trailer ASAP. Seriously, with all the hype that Avengers, TDKR and other super big ones along with the likes of Hunger Games and Snow White are getting, this movie is losing more and more possible customers. Add its insane budget to the equation and you have a film that needs to make at least 600 million worldwide to cover all the costs.

[ThePowerCosmic]

How is it losing people? Most of the movies for next year don't really have exciting trailers yet anyway. Give it time, it'll gain momentum.

[flickchick85]

Yeah, most of the big movies of next year have only had "teaser trailers" which seems to have caused people to attack each of them for not having "big money shots" or being "epic enough," which is obviously due to the fact that these trailers were all released very shortly after projects finished filming (or in some cases, not even finished filming) and have a lot of post-production to go still. Chill people, the money shots will come when they're ready! I'd rather they wait to show them when they look good than jump the gun and show unfinished effects.

[ThePowerCosmic]

*Cough*Green Lantern*Cough*

[Rowsdower!]

*Cough*Green Lantern*Cough*

Bingo.

Never, EVER release a trailer with unfinished special effects (at least not blatantly obvious ones).

[Sawyer]

Unfinished special effects trailer was hardly the problem with GL. :o

[Rowsdower!]

Yeah, yeah, it was the worst movie ever made, it raped your childhood and watching it gave you gonorrhea. Still doesn't change the fact that the unfinished effects in the first trailer didn't help the cause.

[Sawyer]

Yeah, yeah, it was the worst movie ever made, it raped your childhood and watching it gave you gonorrhea. Still doesn't change the fact that the unfinished effects in the first trailer didn't help the cause.

Don't put words into my mouth. The movie was ****, but I'm over it. I'm not one of these mongoloids that goes into hysterics when they see that a character that is supposed to be wearing maroon is actually just wearing dark red. :o

[JakeSully]

https://twitter.com/denofgeek/status/140050262751584256
We're hearing that a new John Carter trailer is coming late next week...:awesome:

[JakeSully]

NEW PICTURES!!!:wow::wow:
http://www.sfx.co.uk/2011/11/25/john-carter-new-pics/

[Lobo]

Those look great!

[ThePowerCosmic]

NEW PICTURES!!!:wow::wow:
http://www.sfx.co.uk/2011/11/25/john-carter-new-pics/

Nice!! I can't wait for the trailer. :awesome: The creatures, technology, and environments look fantastic. I have a feeling this movie's gonna be good... From the looks of these pics, the film doesn't seem to have that slight reddish tint to it anymore and I'm fine with that.

http://media.sfx.co.uk/files/2011/11/John-Carter-251111-6.jpg
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http://media.sfx.co.uk/files/2011/11/John-Carter-251111-1.jpg

[Ratcrawler]

That trailer can't get here soon enough!

[Rowsdower!]

Looks really great. Woola doesn't look quite the way I imagined, but I was never totally sure how to picture that creature, so it's cool. The design they went with kinda looks like a cross between a cat and those floating head things from Big Trouble in Little China.

[Superhero 101]

I think this movie is looking pretty unique. It certainly has some Nice visuals

[Mogwai]

Taylor Kitsch looks great. Now those are some visuals..

[Whiskey Tango]

http://media.sfx.co.uk/files/2011/11/John-Carter-251111-6.jpg

Ferocious yet cute. I love it.

[Sgt.Pepper]

The new pics looks great. Can't wait to see the new trailer.

[Sawyer]

Ferocious yet cute. I love it.

You won't love it so much when it's dry-humping your leg, let me tell you. :o

[Hunter Rider]

The airship is an interesting design.

[DarkSovereignty]

this is finally on my radar. can't wait for a better trailer.

[squeekness]

Taylor Kitsch looks great. Now those are some visuals..Indeed! :D

[kickass]

Those new photo's have got me even more pumped. Ah man, I love adventure. Reading the first book now.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Michael Giacchino on the sound of John Carter:

CraveOnline: What is ‘John Carter’ going to sound like?

Giacchino: "Hopefully it sounds like Barsoom (which is Martian for “Mars). Hopefully it sounds like the epic, massive story that it is. That’s really what we want. It’s really a romantic, epic tale. I didn’t to be afraid to do that. This is going to be big, epic, romantic, frightening and also emotional. It was one of those things when you hear of a film being made and you go, “Well, I have to do that.” That was one of those ones. I’m a huge fan of Andrew Stanton, and while I’ve known him for many years we’ve never worked together in that capacity. So it was fun to get to know him even better as a creative collaborator. I just had such a great time working with him, and I’m really proud of what he’s done on his first live-action film. Which actually, the same for Brad Bird. You know, his first live-action film Mission: Impossible [Ghost Protocol]… Youwould never know that these guys had never made a live-action film before by watching these movies. You would think that they had done a hundred of them. It’s really impressive, and I think their years at Pixar have really prepped them for this."

http://www.craveonline.com/film/interviews/178565-michael-giacchino-on-super-8-john-carter-and-mission-impossible

My body is ready... I adore Giacchino's work! Could this movie sound or look any more promising? :awesome::hrt:

[Project862006]

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6336/johncarterposter2.jpg

[Kane52630]

bold poster...since most posters these days rely on the blue/orange combo.

[dark_b]

the red works. its not used in the movie so f. you Disney.

[Rowsdower!]

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6336/johncarterposter2.jpg

Tars Tarkas: I'm just one of the out-of-focus guys. :csad:

[Panthro]

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6336/johncarterposter2.jpg

I'm reminded of a poster for an old Akira Kurosawa film...

[Sgt.Pepper]

It works for me, love the colour scheme. :up:

[Whiskey Tango]

The orange and yellow really stand out. Would work better with 'OF MARS' on it tho.

[combocaz]

Is this going to be the next big movie franchise?

[protocida]

That's the plan.

[C. Lee]

Is this going to be the next big movie franchise?

There's hope for that. There were 11 books in the original series.

[TwilightPro101]

Awesome poster!

[Rowsdower!]

I really can't wait for the full trailer. Gotta admit, I loathe that new poster because I think it looks fan made or something, but the visuals from this movie have been great so far.

[squeekness]

Is this going to be the next big movie franchise?Hopefully it won't be as lame as Prince of Persia. :( And I love Jake.

[kickass]

Awful poster. Looks like something a 6 years old put together. I wish they had gone with more of an imaginative 80's poster. Something drawn like Blade Runner.

[Wolf Boy]

The pics have been pretty cool i must say, however, the trailer just looks like the film will be one big 2 dimension cartoon movie.

[ALP]

Yeah visually it is reminiscent of Disney's Prince of Persia, and that is not a good thing.

[Rowsdower!]

Damn, I think I'm the only person on earth that kinda liked Prince of Persia.

I mean hell, it wasn't brilliant moviemaking by any stretch, but people on this board act like it's Batman & Robin bad.

[dark_b]

i was entertained with POP.

[squeekness]

I WANTED to be entertained by POP..... but I wasn't. :(

[flickchick85]

Hopefully it won't be as lame as Prince of Persia. :( And I love Jake.
I refuse to believe Andrew Stanton & Co. could make a movie as lame as Prince of Persia. I refuse!

[Octoberist]

Prince of Persia is such a strange movie because it hit all the right notes but yet, something was missing.

[Rac]

There's hope for that. There were 11 books in the original series.
They never get to do all 11.

Mark Strong said they have planned three.

[Project862006]

Yeah visually it is reminiscent of Disney's Prince of Persia, and that is not a good thing.
visually there was nothing wrong with POP