EVERYTHING Black Panther [merged]

[C-$]

Who should play the Black Panther?

[KingOfDreams]

Djimon Hounsou

[Kable24]

Tyrese Gibson or Djimon Hounsou

[WildCard]

Djimon Hounsou

Ya hes pretty much the perfect T'challa

http://img172.exs.cx/img172/2480/gf6cf.jpg

[BT18]

Mekhi Phifer or Derek Luke. It should be someone younger IMO. Don Cheadle showed that people aren't going to throw a fit if an African American plays an African.

Djimon Hounsou is 41 and way taller than Black Panther. He's Luke Cage size. BP is a regular, 6 foot-or-so man with enhanced abilities from super-herbs, traditional training, and an advanced vibranium fitted suit and weapons.

I'd like to see BP just starting out as King or just getting into the groove of it. Maybe that can't be done. But I don't want him to be middle aged already. It doesn't mesh that he's already 42 and this is the first story worth telling in a movie.

My Dream would be for Mekhi Phifer to play T'Challa
http://www.allstarz.org/users/mekhi/gallery/gallery1/images/mekhi2.jpg

Keith David to play T'Chaka
http://www.angelfire.com/movies/pitchblack/images/pb27.jpg

Beyonce to play Monica Lynne (character's a singer + the movie'd need star power)
http://70.85.10.106/loc27/ac19d_pepsi_11.jpg

[KingOfDreams]

Djimon doesn't really look middle-aged.

[Darthphere]

Damn im glad that people are finally seeing the light and noticing that Djimon is the perfect Black Panther, ive been saying it for years!!

[HighVoltage]

Wesley Snipes as Black Panther.

Nuff Said.:up: :up:

[GL-Corps#28]

Seems like Jamie Foxx would be the obvious choice nowadays.

[MJB]

Seems like Jamie Foxx would be the obvious choice nowadays.


Oh no not Jamie Fox, he's 39 and far to old,LOL! Why are so many so stuck on age. Jeez it makes me afraid to get over 30. If they hired Bow Wow people would complain he's to young, it's a no win situation. Look their are no talented young black actors that i want to see play BP. Most of the younger black so called actors come from the music industry. Here are a few younger actors that have talent, Phifer is late 20's and if I'm not mistaken he's 28 or 29, but realistically hollywood is not going to make a BP movie with him headlining cause he's black and have no fan base to warrent the studio spending money to make this movie, and the same thing goes for Tyrese, Michael Ealy (oh wait he's 32, to old)and Derek Luke. Their's also Rob Brown, who's like 21 and a good actor, but I doubt most of you even know who he is, and it's why he won't be used. If the studio uses any of these guys, the budget will not be over 15 million, unless they cast an A-list white actor for the villian.

Their are three actors in Hollywood right now that a studio would finace the BP with a good budget, and that's Will Smith, Denzil, and Jamie Foxx, who still has to prove himself as a box office draw. If you wanna see a 100 million BP movie that is kick @ss, then Will Smith is the only option period!

[CorporalHicks]

mike tyson

[RAMORE]

But Will Smith is GL.

[hippie_hunter]

But Will Smith is GL.
Don't ever say that again :o

[Kmack]

Jamie Foxx:confused: He's a great actor and now has a box office appeal.....but Djimon Hounsou is a great choice as well.

[CaptainStacy]

Phifer.

[Darthphere]

Djimon Hounsou!!!!!

[BT18]

Djimon Hounsou!!!!!

This babyish type of scrolling in leu of conversation when one has nothing to say of substance should be banned.

[Darthphere]

This babyish type of scrolling in leu of conversation when one has nothing to say of substance should be banned.

Who died and made you moderator? :rolleyes:


My post has a lot of substance Djimon Hounsou is the ONLY choice for Black Panther.

[Son Of Logan]

Who died and made you moderator? :rolleyes:


My post has a lot of substance Djimon Hounsou is the ONLY choice for Black Panther.

Absolutely correct. There needs to be nothing more said on casting T'Challa. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. :wolverine

[WildCard]

I figure that this movie has been in the works for long enough that it's eventually going to be made. So how would you like it done. Would you go for Wesley Snipes, Jamie Fox, Djimon Hounsouor someone else entirely. Who would you have direct. What story line would you use. Speak you mind about the Black Panther Movie.

Storyline-

I would start the movie as T'challa being a child and soon having his father assasinated by Klaw, show T'challa wound him but have hime get away.

From there i would go with Christopher Priest by having Ross in there, mostly for comic relief.But I would not go for Mephisto as my first Villian, I would go with Killmonger, he is just the essential Black Panther bad guy.

I would have T'challa avenge his fathers death in a sequel.

Cast

Black Panther/T'challa-Djimon Hounsou, some would say he's to old but i think hes perfect.
http://img9.echo.cx/img9/215/untitled3ei.png
Everett K. Ross-I would Love Michael J. Fox for the role but i think he's to old now. I have no one specific in mind for the role maybe Mathew Perry.
http://gala01.univ-perp.fr/~guilhaum/chandl0.jpg
Killmonger-I dont know who i would cast as Killmonger, maybe Micheal Clark Duncan but I dont think so.
http://img251.echo.cx/img251/5118/f4ah.png
T'chaka-Dennis Haysbert.
http://img251.echo.cx/img251/8013/dennishaysbert7vv.jpg

Director-beats me, maybe Ridley Scott, him and Djimon Hounsou worked together on gladiator and I think he could give the film the right feel.

A poster I made for fun.

http://img9.echo.cx/img9/4919/11fj.png

The dates just wishful thinking

[HighVoltage]

http://img9.echo.cx/img9/4919/11fj.png

The dates just wishful thinking

For me The Batman Begins costume is a copy of Black Panther suit.

Your fanposter for Black Panther is cool!!!!

[WildCard]

thanx man

[Chris Wallace]

Even though that's clearly just a touched-up Spawn pic, it's sweet as hell!
Your ideas have merit. Even the Matthew Perry one. All he ever does is play Chandler under different circumstances but that's just the kind of neurotic behavior Ross would need.

[WildCard]

thanx. ya its pretty much a altered spawn poster but i saw the pic and i new it could be BP

[WildCard]

Updated poster

http://img131.echo.cx/img131/9753/28jw.png

Comments are appreciated

[Darthphere]

Djimon Hounsou is the only choice for Black Panther.

[WildCard]

agreed

[ScarletSpider]

He does seem like a good choice, though I'd be happy with Snipes too, Marvel deserves to throw him a bone after he got screwed with Blade Trinity, plus he said he'd be up for Black Panther.

Oh and nice poster! I thought the first one was cool but the edited one with the jungle background is just awesome... even if you can tell it's the Spawn poster :p

[The Hellrider]

Updated poster

http://img131.echo.cx/img131/9753/28jw.png


Damn, that is the bomb, dude! I've never been much of a Panther fan, but that looks sweet as hell!

I also checked out your site, very nice.:up::up:

(got me a new wallpaper too:D)

[spider-jide]

http://img9.echo.cx/img9/4919/11fj.png

The dates just wishful thinking

Dude, your poster kicks ass! and yeah I'd root for Djimon to play BP.

[WildCard]

Damn, that is the bomb, dude! I've never been much of a Panther fan, but that looks sweet as hell!

I also checked out your site, very nice.:up::up:

(got me a new wallpaper too:D)

Thanks man i need all the hits I can on my site.

BTW what wallpaper did you choose?

[The Hellrider]

Thanks man i need all the hits I can on my site.

BTW what wallpaper did you choose?

Loki:)

I loved the red/black Batman Begins one, too.

[tamron]

Director - Antoine Fuqua (Training Day, Tears of the Sun)
Black Panther - Djimon Hounsou
Killmonger - Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje (Wombosi from the Bourne Identity)

Is Everett K. Ross really needed? He played the role of narrator in Priest's BP, but do we really need his goofiness in the movie? I think the film could be executed better without him.

I wish we could get an Iron Man/Black Panther crossover film. The way Priest wrote those two characters interactions were some of the best moments in both characters illustrious history.

Great poster, by the way.

[Spider-Kurt]

From ideas to art work,great stuff here people!

[WildCard]

Director - Antoine Fuqua (Training Day, Tears of the Sun)
Black Panther - Djimon Hounsou
Killmonger - Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje (Wombosi from the Bourne Identity)

Is Everett K. Ross really needed? He played the role of narrator in Priest's BP, but do we really need his goofiness in the movie? I think the film could be executed better without him.

I wish we could get an Iron Man/Black Panther crossover film. The way Priest wrote those two characters interactions were some of the best moments in both characters illustrious history.

Great poster, by the way.

I guess he's not needed but he's one of my fav civilian characters and i think he could add something to the movie.

[tamron]

I feel you, he's a good comic character. It's just that I think a good BP movie would be darker than the comic to a degree, an I'm not sure he'd fit without seeming camp. But hell, a good screenwriter could make it work. It's not impossible, just a borderline issue, imho.

[Chris Wallace]

I covered the locale issue in a previous thread. What are your thoughts, costume-wise?

[Chris Wallace]

I don't know his name, but my pick for Killmonger would be the Air Marshall from "Anger Management", also seen in "Pirates of the Carribean".

[Chris Wallace]

Also, I don't think starting off w/his father's death is the way to go; it resonates Batman. Instead establish the legacy of the Panther clan first, show how T'Challa became the latest successor. We can see T'Chaka die in a flashback.

[Red Mask]

We also saw Daredevil's father die in the beginning.

Side note: I didn't want to say anything before, but that fan poster looks like the Spawn movie poster from way back.

[WildCard]

its taken from the spwn movie poster, i admit it.

[Son Of Logan]

Djimon Hounsou is the only choice for Black Panther.

Amen, case closed, signed, noterized, sealed, and mailed in.

This is a freakin' no-brainer.

[Hypestyle]

I like Honsou better for Killmonger..

white wolf- ?
The Dora Milaje?
Monica Lynne- ?
Zuri- Michael Clarke Duncan

[Chris Wallace]

Monica Lynne-Sanaa Lathan

[Hypestyle]

Monica Lynne-Sanaa Lathan

ah.. but can she sing? ;)

[Chris Wallace]

Updated poster

http://img131.echo.cx/img131/9753/28jw.png

Comments are appreciated
The more I look at this, the more I hate that Spawn used it first. This is bar none the best fan-made poster I have ever seen.

[Chris Wallace]

ah.. but can she sing? ;)
Maybe. If not, she can fake it. See "Disappearing Acts".

[WildCard]

The more I look at this, the more I hate that Spawn used it first. This is bar none the best fan-made poster I have ever seen.

Well thats bar none the best compliment I have ever recieved

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I think they should get either Wesley Snipes or Denzel Washington to do Black Panther.

[Chris Wallace]

I can't see Denzel; Snipes would've been good 10 years ago when they were first talking about it but I don't think so now. Besides, he fells he got burned on Blade so he may not WANT Panther anymore.

[terry78]

Djimon Hounsou is Black Panther...just end it right now.

[bored]

i think he's on to something there. he's a respected actor with just enough fame to be recognized by marvel as lead hero potential.

[The Batman]

For me The Batman Begins costume is a copy of Black Panther suit.

Your fanposter for Black Panther is cool!!!!


Then again, you're so marvel biased that I'm not surprised you'd make idiotic statements like that....

[The Batman]

[QUOTE=Chris Wallace]Also, I don't think starting off w/his father's death is the way to go; it resonates Batman. QUOTE]


If you go by HighVoltage's thinking, he probably believes Batman stole the "My Father is dead" idea from BP too.

[The Batman]

And the poster kicks ass, BTW.

[Chris Wallace]

Be nice, Batman.
Both the "Begins" suit & BP's costume have that sleek, stealthy vibe. They're both cool, but nobody copied anybody. Don't Marvel-bash.

[Chris Wallace]

Be nice, Batman.
Both the "Begins" suit & BP's costume have that sleek, stealthy vibe. They're both cool, but nobody copied anybody. Don't Marvel-bash.

[The Batman]

I didnt bash. i'm just saying that BB didnt copy off of anything...

[Chris Wallace]

Yeah, but not all Marvel fans are so blinded by our loyalty that we have to look for such things.

[The Batman]

But i didnt say all marvel fans were blinded, just highvoltage.

[HighVoltage]

Then again, you're so marvel biased that I'm not surprised you'd make idiotic statements like that....

This is for you "The Batman".

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/high316/sodoma.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/high316/1018721722578_Mvc_007s.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/high316/04.jpg

Please Tell me what character (or image) is similar to Begins Costume?

[The Batman]

Uh, the first one

for one thing, the begins costume isnt black. At least, not BP's shade of black. But if you werent such a moron that you'd say anything to make DC look unoriginal, you'd know that.

So yeah, the first one looks closer to BB's outfit.

[The Batman]

Uh, the first one

for one thing, the begins costume isnt black. At least, not BP's shade of black. But if you werent such a moron that you'd say anything to make DC look unoriginal, you'd know that. for another thing, Batman dosent have a mask that covers his entire head. Also, BB's Cape is alot bigger.

So yeah, the first one looks closer to BB's outfit. Why am i wasting my time? You were stupid enough to claim that the new DC sign ripped off captain america's shield

[Chris Wallace]

Ok-enough name-calling.
And of course if you use the blue cowl-Adam West design as your reference, the new batsuit would look more like the Panther by comparison.
Did hv really start that argument about the logo?

[The Batman]

Yes, he did....

[BT18]

Director - maybe Zack Snyder or Peter Berg (or maybe even Steven Soderbergh. The Challenge is finding someone who can make a smart political hero movie that also deals largely with amazing visuals and hand-to-hand fight scenes. )

T'Challa - Mekhi Phifer or Derek Luke (2 actors who are up and coming leading men and the right size, unlike middle aged character actor Honsou who's also too tall)

http://images.zap2it.com/20050117/17_mekhiphifer_gg05.jpghttp://images.hollywood.com/images/large/l_1705713.jpg

T'Chaka - Keith David or Denzel Washington (Keith for Mekhi cause they look like father/son and Denzel for Derek because of the Antoine Fisher connection)

http://img126.echo.cx/img126/5536/keithdavid6aw.jpghttp://movie-cast.com/denzel.jpg

Ulysses Klaw - Brad Pitt (with his work in Africa and focus on the continent he just might be willing to sign onto something like this and give it the star power it needs for the studio to have faith in the project. Pitt likes offbeat stuff and this might be just the comic book movie role he'd like to surpise people by doing. By playing the villain in a lesser known comic rather than the hero in Captain America or something, a role he's totally wrong for by the way)

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/ce/bradpitt_150x200.jpg

Monica Lynne - Beyonce Knowles (come on if she plays a comic book role this would be alot better of an idea than Misty Knight, a role that's way too similar to her Austin Powers character, atleast in it's original comic incarnation. The character is a singer and she's super beautiful. Hopefully her Pink Panther movie will do well and she won't mind doing another role with "Panther" in the title. Sorry these movies based on more obscure comic characters are helped by having star power and noone in her subset of actresses who fit this role has more than Beyonce.)

http://www.all-pictures-photos.com/images/beyonce-knowles/beyonce-knowles-045-img.jpg

Killmonger - Ving Rhames (I don't think I really need to much explanation on this one. Ving has what it takes and hasn't had a good comic book movie role)

http://cine.elcorreodigital.com/datos/peliculas/fotos/pelicula170502a_3.jpg

[spider-jide]

I think they should get either Wesley Snipes or Denzel Washington to do Black Panther.

Nah, Denzel wont do it and I'd rather snipes doesn't do it. I wouldn't mind snipes taking on the role as a producer but to play the lead character, I think someone else should do it and he person that springs to mind is the person i've been routinng for all along, Djimon Honsou.

[comicsdetective]

Uh, the first one

for one thing, the begins costume isnt black. At least, not BP's shade of black. But if you werent such a moron that you'd say anything to make DC look unoriginal, you'd know that. for another thing, Batman dosent have a mask that covers his entire head. Also, BB's Cape is alot bigger.

So yeah, the first one looks closer to BB's outfit. Why am i wasting my time? You were stupid enough to claim that the new DC sign ripped off captain america's shield

Actually the Begins suit is black. But I see what he's saying. Batman's costume was always grey. When they make it all black in the films, it really looks more like Black Panther than the comics Batman. That being a huge Batman fan and all(check my name). So he does have a point. But Begins didn't copy Black Panther. It just looks more like BP than Batman because Batman is originally grey(with black or with blue) and not all black like BP.

[3dman27]

I figure that this movie has been in the works for long enough that it's eventually going to be made. So how would you like it done. Would you go for Wesley Snipes, Jamie Fox, Djimon Hounsouor someone else entirely. Who would you have direct. What story line would you use. Speak you mind about the Black Panther Movie.

Storyline-

I would start the movie as T'challa being a child and soon having his father assasinated by Klaw, show T'challa wound him but have hime get away.

From there i would go with Christopher Priest by having Ross in there, mostly for comic relief.But I would not go for Mephisto as my first Villian, I would go with Killmonger, he is just the essential Black Panther bad guy.

I would have T'challa avenge his fathers death in a sequel.

Cast

Black Panther/T'challa-Djimon Hounsou, some would say he's to old but i think hes perfect.
http://img9.echo.cx/img9/215/untitled3ei.png
Everett K. Ross-I would Love Michael J. Fox for the role but i think he's to old now. I have no one specific in mind for the role maybe Mathew Perry.
http://gala01.univ-perp.fr/~guilhaum/chandl0.jpg
Killmonger-I dont know who i would cast as Killmonger, maybe Micheal Clark Duncan but I dont think so.
http://img251.echo.cx/img251/5118/f4ah.png
T'chaka-Dennis Haysbert.
http://img251.echo.cx/img251/8013/dennishaysbert7vv.jpg

Director-beats me, maybe Ridley Scott, him and Djimon Hounsou worked together on gladiator and I think he could give the film the right feel.

A poster I made for fun.

http://img9.echo.cx/img9/4919/11fj.png

The dates just wishful thinkingnice art wildcard

[The Batman]

Actually the Begins suit is black. But I see what he's saying. Batman's costume was always grey. When they make it all black in the films, it really looks more like Black Panther than the comics Batman. That being a huge Batman fan and all(check my name). So he does have a point. But Begins didn't copy Black Panther. It just looks more like BP than Batman because Batman is originally grey(with black or with blue) and not all black like BP.

No, he dosent have a point. for one thing, Movie Batman dosent look much like BP. It looks exactly like comics Batman...except he's wearing Black. He's just spouting crap because he dosent like DC.

I find it funny that he hasnt made any more posts in this thread....which proves my point.

[BT18]

there is entirely too little feedback on my cast lineup

[comicsdetective]

No, he dosent have a point. for one thing, Movie Batman dosent look much like BP. It looks exactly like comics Batman...except he's wearing Black.

Honestly, I never saw a comic where Batman wore an sui of high-tech armor like he did in Begins.

[Chris Wallace]

Yes, he did....
Ugh-see, now it's impossible to defend him. Remarks like that make all Marvel fans look bad. I prefer to relish the differences between the tow aesthetics & not egg the DC fans' house.

[Chris Wallace]

Honestly, I never saw a comic where Batman wore an sui of high-tech armor like he did in Begins.
DKR. :batman:
Now can we move the topic back to BP?

[Chris Wallace]

Director - maybe Zack Snyder or Peter Berg (or maybe even Steven Soderbergh. The Challenge is finding someone who can make a smart political hero movie that also deals largely with amazing visuals and hand-to-hand fight scenes. )

T'Challa - Mekhi Phifer or Derek Luke (2 actors who are up and coming leading men and the right size, unlike middle aged character actor Honsou who's also too tall)

http://images.zap2it.com/20050117/17_mekhiphifer_gg05.jpghttp://images.hollywood.com/images/large/l_1705713.jpg

T'Chaka - Keith David or Denzel Washington (Keith for Mekhi cause they look like father/son and Denzel for Derek because of the Antoine Fisher connection)

http://img126.echo.cx/img126/5536/keithdavid6aw.jpghttp://movie-cast.com/denzel.jpg

Ulysses Klaw - Brad Pitt (with his work in Africa and focus on the continent he just might be willing to sign onto something like this and give it the star power it needs for the studio to have faith in the project. Pitt likes offbeat stuff and this might be just the comic book movie role he'd like to surpise people by doing. By playing the villain in a lesser known comic rather than the hero in Captain America or something, a role he's totally wrong for by the way)

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/ce/bradpitt_150x200.jpg

Monica Lynne - Beyonce Knowles (come on if she plays a comic book role this would be alot better of an idea than Misty Knight, a role that's way too similar to her Austin Powers character, atleast in it's original comic incarnation. The character is a singer and she's super beautiful. Hopefully her Pink Panther movie will do well and she won't mind doing another role with "Panther" in the title. Sorry these movies based on more obscure comic characters are helped by having star power and noone in her subset of actresses who fit this role has more than Beyonce.)

http://www.all-pictures-photos.com/images/beyonce-knowles/beyonce-knowles-045-img.jpg

Killmonger - Ving Rhames (I don't think I really need to much explanation on this one. Ving has what it takes and hasn't had a good comic book movie role)

http://cine.elcorreodigital.com/datos/peliculas/fotos/pelicula170502a_3.jpg
Derek Luke is too youthful, IMO. Denzel I just can't see. I'm gonna have to give a thumbs down on Pitt. Keith David is a little past his prime. Ving Rames is just not my idea of Killmonger & Beyonce can't act.

[tamron]

I like Mekhi Phifer and Derek Luke, but they just don't seem right for Black Panther. I'd love Mehki as Cage, though. I mean, BP is the leader of a country, and Djimon has a certain stately authority on the screen that fits that part of the character very well. That is the element that I feel needs to be played up. Black Panther should be like a superhero Air Force One, with T'Challa taking control by force to protect his country from an outside threat. He should be intense and calculating like BP was during Priest's run. And for 41, Djimon is in damn good shape, its not like he's ravaged by time.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/beauty_shop/djimon_hounsou/beautyshop2.jpg

Besides I think it would be awesome for a African hero to be played by a solid African actor, rather than an African-American one. It may seem like a slight thing to some, but I don't believe it is.

[terry78]

Couldn't really find any shots of BP minus his mask, except this oh so precious one of him kissing a shocked Storm.

http://nitro1.fw.hu/pic/comic/Ororo%20and%20T'Challa.jpg

[Chris Wallace]

Wanting an African to play BP isn't a "slight thing", if there's a viable person who can. I believe Hounsou to be such. But it's not always how it works out.

[Chris Wallace]

Couldn't really find any shots of BP minus his mask, except this oh so precious one of him kissing a shocked Storm.

http://nitro1.fw.hu/pic/comic/Ororo%20and%20T'Challa.jpg
What comic is this from?

[WildCard]

black panther (priests run)

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/11028488140.26.gif (http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=11028488140%2026)

IDK if this is the exact issue but its from this story line

[Darthphere]

If Djimon Hounsou isnt involved in some way with Black panther its the biggest mistake ever. Djimon just screams Black Panther.

[HighVoltage]

If Djimon Hounsou isnt involved in some way with Black panther its the biggest mistake ever. Djimon just screams Black Panther.

For Me Djimon Hounsou screams Bishop.:up::xmen:

Wesley Snipes is perfect for T´Challa.:up::cool:

[Darthphere]

For Me Djimon Hounsou screams Bishop.:up::xmen:

Wesley Snipes is perfect for T´Challa.:up::cool:


Bishop needs to be a bigger guy, Djimon is muscular and lean, perfect for T'Challa.

[Chris Wallace]

Bishop should be American. And Wesley's time for T'Challa passed by the time he first picked up the sword.

[tamron]

For Me Djimon Hounsou screams Bishop.:up::xmen:

See my sig? KHC IS Bishop, damnit!

http://wwwimage.cbs.com/daytime/yr/star_images/actors/dt_yr_act_large_kcobb.jpg

[tamron]

Double post.

[HighVoltage]

Bishop should be American. And Wesley's time for T'Challa passed by the time he first picked up the sword.

But Wesley Snipes is a big fan of T´Challa.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/high316/WesleyasBlackPanther.jpg

[comicsdetective]

DKR. :batman:
Now can we move the topic back to BP?

Yeah, I was really talking Elseworlds and not really the real Batman:rolleyes:

[comicsdetective]

Why people wants Snipes. He's already Blade. Hounsou is the best choice.

[comicsdetective]

Why people want Snipes? He's already Blade. Hounsou is the best choice.

[BT18]

I like Mekhi Phifer and Derek Luke, but they just don't seem right for Black Panther. I'd love Mehki as Cage, though. I mean, BP is the leader of a country, and Djimon has a certain stately authority on the screen that fits that part of the character very well. That is the element that I feel needs to be played up. Black Panther should be like a superhero Air Force One, with T'Challa taking control by force to protect his country from an outside threat. He should be intense and calculating like BP was during Priest's run. And for 41, Djimon is in damn good shape, its not like he's ravaged by time.


Luke Cage is 6' 6". Black Panther is 6 feet.

Also if Black Panther is an origin movie, the character should definitely be a young king. Maybe in the comics currently being issued BP is Djimon's age, but most comic movies aren't based at a time in a heros life that the comics are currently at. They ususally start closer to the begining.

[BT18]

Derek Luke is too youthful, IMO. Denzel I just can't see. I'm gonna have to give a thumbs down on Pitt. Keith David is a little past his prime. Ving Rames is just not my idea of Killmonger & Beyonce can't act.

You do know I was talking about Denzel and Keith David for T'Challas father right?

How is David past his prime for that?

Just a note Keith played BP's voice on the FF cartoon.

Derek Luke is not too youthful to play the young King. I don't see the logic in starting the Black Panther story in the movies when he's already been the hero for decades. Derek has also shown the ability to gain a much more amazing musculature than any of the afformentioned actors (Djimon, etc). Which you could see in the opening scenes of Friday Night Lights.

[Darthphere]

Djimon is Black Panther, thats it. If they want to use another actor to show how he became BP or King thats fine but Djimon is Black Panther, plain and simple.

[BT18]

Darthphere people like you make SHH an awful place. Stop scrolling and being an ass and learn how to communicate like someone who isn't a bratty 4 year old.

[RAMORE]

Derek luke is ok for a you tchalla i guess but i haven't seen him in anything besides FNL idon't think. Djimon does have a stately quality and he'd be my pick for the older version. Just posted this twice cause everyone else is double posting and i don't want to be left out:)

[RAMORE]

hey what gives it redirected me and didn't do my double post how did yall do it:(

[BT18]

Derek luke is ok for a you tchalla i guess but i haven't seen him in anything besides FNL idon't think. Djimon does have a stately quality and he'd be my pick for the older version. Just posted this twice cause everyone else is double posting and i don't want to be left out:)

Spartan and Antoine Fisher are 2 very quality movies worth watching completely removed from the fact of judging him.

[Trigger]

I don't feel that Derek could deliver the same authority on screen as Djimon.Djimon really is the only choice for me.Unlees both are cast to play BP at different ages. I feel Snipes is too Blade to play BP. He's like Christina Ricci. I will always see her as Wednesday Adams and I will always see Snipes as Blade.

[Darthphere]

Darthphere people like you make SHH an awful place. Stop scrolling and being an ass and learn how to communicate like someone who isn't a bratty 4 year old.


What the **** is your problem. You like Derek Luke I dont. Djimon is my perfect casting choice. I state that. An opinion, you ever hear of one. You dont like it, tough but I never disrespected you in any way. Its *******s like you who think they run the place that make SHH! an awful place. Learn to deal with an opposing an opinion.

[BT18]

What the **** is your problem. You like Derek Luke I dont. Djimon is my perfect casting choice. I state that. An opinion, you ever hear of one. You dont like it, tough but I never disrespected you in any way. Its *******s like you who think they run the place that make SHH! an awful place. Learn to deal with an opposing an opinion.

It's not about me "liking Derek Luke". Unlike you I don't obsess about proclaiming over and over again the same thing , the same derivative statement, because I have a preference (IE scrolling).

[Darthphere]

It's not about me "liking Derek Luke". Unlike you I don't obsess about proclaiming over and over again the same thing , the same derivative statement, because I have a preference (IE scrolling).


Seriously what the **** do you care if I state it over and over again. You dont like it dont read it that simple. Put me on ignore if you want but as long as were talking casting for BP im gonna state Djimon Hounsou is the best choice. Thats my right, unless you become a mod and ban me or something im gonna keep on doing it. it doent bother anyone else but you so guess what, get over it.

[tamron]

Luke Cage is 6' 6". Black Panther is 6 feet.

Also if Black Panther is an origin movie, the character should definitely be a young king. Maybe in the comics currently being issued BP is Djimon's age, but most comic movies aren't based at a time in a heros life that the comics are currently at. They ususally start closer to the begining.

It would be great if you can find the perfect actor for every comic part. Right look, right height, right age, everything just like the comics. But that is very rare.

I'd rather have an actor who embodies the role well and does miss some of the comic properties, than one who looks like the comic, but does not touch the heart of the character. Djimon Hounsou can touch the heart of Black Panther's character and breath life into it. And I feel Mehki Phifer could do Luke Cage better than anyone that's been discussed for the role. Djimon may be to old for a BP franchise. Mehki may be shorter than Luke Cage. But I feel they're the best actors for the job, and that would make up for the discrepancies.

As far as origin stories, I'd love to see a few comic films buck that trend, and with Black Panther it's easy, because Black Panther isn't a superhero like Spider-Man. He didn't have an accident or decide to help people arbitrarally. He's a head of state, a dignitary, and the mantle of Black Panther simply comes with being the king of Wakanda. Simply establish that, and then when the crisis arises, BP goes to work. No mess, no fuss.

[BT18]

Tamron how would you like the story to go? I guess I imagined it would take place only a little while after he's gotten back from Europe getting his graduate education and what not. But I suppose it is pretty up in the air at this point of what they'll do.

And just to explain additionally why I find fault with the "Djimon is perfect" campaign I just can't ignore the fact that he's basically the only famous working native African in Hollywood and I think that's the overwheling reason why he's supported rather than him truely being as right from either a character or moviemaking standpoint. Or perhaps instead of "rather" I should say that the former is overwhelmingly much more the reason.

[Darthphere]

.And just to explain additionally why I find fault with the "Djimon is perfect" campaign I just can't ignore the fact that he's basically the only famous working native African in Hollywood and I think that's the overwheling reason why he's supported rather than him truely being as right from either a character or moviemaking standpoint. Or perhaps instead of "rather" I should say that the former is overwhelmingly much more the reason.


Yes, ill agree thats one of the reasons. Hes an excellent actor that could bring Tchalla to the screen. Hes shown he can handle doing action in movies like Gladiator, hes an excellent dramatic actor, if you havent seen In America I implore you to go see it. Its an excellent film. Hes just a very good actor, the fact that hes african is just one more plus IMO to why he would be a good Black panther.

[BT18]

I've seen "In America". I've seen Gladiator, Amistad. He's a good actor.

As are Mekhi and Derek Luke. Who unlike Djimon are a better age and more leading man material for a role like this that has franchise potential.

[Darthphere]

I've seen "In America". I've seen Gladiator, Amistad. He's a good actor. A good character actor.


I will also admit that there are others who could do the job of bringing T'challa to the screen.

[Darthphere]

As are Mekhi and Derek Luke. Who unlike Djimon are a better age and more leading man material for a role like this that has franchise potential.


Not a big fan of Mekhi Phifer, he always seems to play the angry black guy in everything ive seen him, except for ER. Derek Luke is good, liked him in Antwone Fisher and the 15 minutes he was in Spartan. he could probably do it, just doesnt give off the kingly vibe we need from T'Challa, but it also depends on the direction. Anyway by the time a BP movie gets made Djimon would probably be too old.

[Chris Wallace]

You do know I was talking about Denzel and Keith David for T'Challas father right?

How is David past his prime for that?

Just a note Keith played BP's voice on the FF cartoon.

Derek Luke is not too youthful to play the young King. I don't see the logic in starting the Black Panther story in the movies when he's already been the hero for decades. Derek has also shown the ability to gain a much more amazing musculature than any of the afformentioned actors (Djimon, etc). Which you could see in the opening scenes of Friday Night Lights.
How is David past his prime? Simple: Because T'Chaka was in his prime when he was killed. And voicing a character doesn't mean you can play them on film. Or let's just sign up Kevin Conroy for the next Batman right now, get Mark Hamill to play Hobgoblin, & while we're at it Neil Patrick Harris can take over for Spider-Man, Roscoe Lee Brown can do Kingpin, & don't forget Tim Daly as Superman.
As for Derek Luke, he looks like a kid & I'd rather see a seasoned, experienced ruler of a nation.

[BT18]

I never said voicing a character means you can play them off film. It was just a "note".

[Chris Wallace]

Yeah, I was really talking Elseworlds and not really the real Batman:rolleyes:
1-you said you'd NEVER seen it.
2-If you want an "in-continuity" example, how about-oh, pretty much all the time? If you think his costume isn't a high-tech armor, then I suggest you read "Hush".

[Hypestyle]

hmm.. I hope Avi Arad has someone good in mind for director and writer--

[Chris Wallace]

I don't see why Hudlin can't do it. How many filmmakers have actually written comics & done a worthy job of it?

[Darthphere]

I don't see why Hudlin can't do it. How many filmmakers have actually written comics & done a worthy job of it?


But Hudlin hasnt, his Black Panther is mediocre at best and there way too many problems with the way he writes the characters in the book.

[Chris Wallace]

I disagree.

[BT18]

What do you guys think about Zack Snyder, Peter Berg, or Steven Soderbergh directing ?

[Chris Wallace]

I try not to judge a director's suitability to do a comic book film based on his previous Hollywood track record; it's how he approaches the project itself. Remember, Joel Schumacher was considered by many to be an awesome filmmaker. Nothing that Bryan Singer had done gave us a clue about how he'd approach "X-Men". And did you see "Pee-Wee's Big Adventure" or "Beetlejuice"?

[BT18]

What do you think of Jamaica for a possible filming location? Could it possibly double for a fictional African country?

I mean, it would probably be alot less expensive to not travel so far away from the US. There is sort of a jungle in Jamaica I assume. Never been there, but it's a caribbean country. Perhaps they could use it for the bulk of the principal photography and then maybe spend a few weeks on location in Africa for the locations they can't get out of it. And with Jamaica unlike other places people have suggested to double for Africa (Australia, New Zealand, etc) you do have access to plenty of extras of African ethnicity.

[Chris Wallace]

The idea has merit. If Canada can pass for New York, why not?

[Chris Wallace]

Also, it seems to me that BP's costume would have to remain pretty much unchanged; put him in rubber & he looks like a Batman knock-off; put him in leather & you get Daredevil. Plus he's GOT to have a full-face mask.

[Red Mask]

I hope the actor looks like a medium weight bodybuilder. If the costume has thin material then the muscles will make him more impressive when he's in shadow.

[BT18]

I hope the actor looks like a medium weight bodybuilder. If the costume has thin material then the muscles will make him more impressive when he's in shadow.

Derek Luke and Mekhi Phifer are both capable of that in my opinion

Rent or download Friday Night Lights (if you download you can just preview before it's done because you see how big and impressive muscle wise he is in the first couple minutes, while I believe the opening creditsa are still playing.)
In other words, start downloading on a P2P, and then just do a preview when it's like 3 percent done.

As for Mekhi he's often shown how naturally thick of a frame he has.

[Darthphere]

But their acting ability is suspect, more on Mekhi's case.

[Spider-Kurt]

This is my most anticipated,never used before Marvel (or any other distributer)comic book character movie now. BP simply needs to be introduced to the masses. To be honest with you, even though Wesley Snipes played an excellent Blade, I'd rather he had played T'Challa in the mid nineties instead. Personally, I'd rather see the noble King of Wakanda defending the weak over the Daywalking Vampire Hunter.

[terry78]

I'd like to hope they can somewhat merchandise this character also. Give him an animated series or something before the movie is released, bust out some action figures...he has some decent villains.

[BT18]

But their acting ability is suspect, more on Mekhi's case.

Not really. They're suspect to you basically because you want it to be.

[Darthphere]

Not really. They're suspect to you basically because you want it to be.


If more than 5 people come into this thread and say Mekhi Phifer is more than a mediocre actor, ill retract my statement. I havent seen him in anything that will make me believe that he is a good actor.

Theres a lot of young talent out there, its hard for me to believe that anyone would think Mekhi is good for the role of Black Panther.

[BT18]

If more than 5 people come into this thread and say Mekhi Phifer is more than a mediocre actor, ill retract my statement. I havent seen him in anything that will make me believe that he is a good actor.

Theres a lot of young talent out there, its hard for me to believe that anyone would think Mekhi is good for the role of Black Panther.

Or you could just point to one instance of Mekhi being a mediocre actor, a critical review or something, considering I'm the only person on SHH evidently who has voiced support for him as Black Panther, and it wouldn't serve anyone's purpouse to chime in who doesn't support him for the role, that's just the way SHH! is.

[Son Of Logan]

Mekhi Phifer is clearly not a mediocre actor. That's 2.

[Chris Wallace]

I was hoping we could discuss the costume a little bit further; in some ways that makes or breaks a comic book movie.

[Red Mask]

If anybody has seen those new mini-statues by Bowen Design I'd go for those. The short cape and tall collar can be an add-on.

[Chris Wallace]

Don't bring up those statues; if I had $150 to spare...

[Red Mask]

Statues! Statues! D'ems is kick ass statues! ;)

[Chris Wallace]

ANd better, IMO, than anything else Bowen has done. Like he was saving his real kick-ass work for T'Challa.

[Chris Wallace]

I hope the actor looks like a medium weight bodybuilder. If the costume has thin material then the muscles will make him more impressive when he's in shadow.
Spider-Man & the FF wore muscle-enhancement suits underneath their costumes. I'm sure it'd be pretty much the same w/BP.

[The Phantom]

This guy must be Black Panther! At at all costs! He was awesome as Spawn, that cannot be denied, so he has the superhero movie experience. Plus he's got this kingly aura about him and an interestingly sounding voice that would only add to the awesome awe of Black Panther. AND he's black belt in seven different forms of Martial Arts. So his fighting and gravity-defying scenes won't be so cumbersome as Keanu Reeves was in the Matrix.
http://www.completemartialarts.com/whoswho/pictures/images/mjw7.jpg

[BT18]

For any tricky martial arts stuff you can have a stunt double. The hero wears a mask, same goes for deadpool, all these dumbasses suggesting action stars /glorified stunt people who've never demonstrated any ability to be particularly funny or comedic for him.

You dont' need to cast some old action star for a role like this. It should be a young, up and coming, great acting, leading man in the making. Not a black Jean Claude.

[The Phantom]

He's no black Jean Claude bro. He's actually a good actor. Witness Spawn. The movie overall may have not been well received, but Jai White, did his part.

And does it really need to be some young pop star guy? Jai Whites still in his thirties, which is relatively the time age which most princes ascend to the throne.

[Savage]

White is too american anyway. I have an easier time seeing him as Luke Cage...Unless he can do an African accent...So far I'm Honsou all the way. Mehki to me is also more fit for Luke Cage imo...Both him and White beat the hell out of the Jamie Foxx choice.

[BT18]

He's no black Jean Claude bro. He's actually a good actor. Witness Spawn. The movie overall may have not been well received, but Jai White, did his part.

And does it really need to be some young pop star guy? Jai Whites still in his thirties, which is relatively the time age which most princes ascend to the throne.

Since when the phuck are either of my suggestions "pop stars". They're critically acclaimed up and coming leading men. Mekhi was an amateur rapper growing up in Harlem but as far as I know never released an album or anything.

T'Challa became king offically before he was a teenager. That's when Klaw killed his father. He really took over actively when he came back from extended college and I believe graduate education in Europe. Since both of my suggestions are around thirty, they can still play mid-to-late-20's and still be getting used to the king duties and responsibilites. Jai White in his late 30's cannot. And he is not as good an actor as they are. He was not "Great" in Spawn. He yelled most of his lines and really didn't do anything impressive.

[BT18]

White is too american anyway. I have an easier time seeing him as Luke Cage...Unless he can do an African accent...So far I'm Honsou all the way. Mehki to me is also more fit for Luke Cage imo...Both him and White beat the hell out of the Jamie Foxx choice.

Jamie Foxx was being saught for Diamondback, Luke Cage's enemy, not Luke himself, according to the most recent articles where Avi discusses the movie.

And no, Mekhi is not more fit for Luke Cage, a character who's supposed to be 6' 6" and have a hundreds pounds more of bulk easily.

Mekhi is the right age, size, and has the right vibe for Black Panther, even though he isn't the only famous native African black male actor in Hollywood like Hounsou, which is the cause of the overwhelming majority of support for him. It doesn't stem from anything else. He isn't the right age or height and he isn't a leading man.

[Savage]

I'm talking character here, not size. I mean last I checked Wolverine wasn't 6'2. Mekhi is a good actor, and he has the right size but being a good actor does not mean you can automatically pull off every role...I guess I can see where you're coming from with the choice, it's just that imo there are better choices out there...and since I own Amistad on DVD, after watching that I can't help but see Honsou as T'Challa. To me he's perfect for the role, wether the actor's from Africa or not. That has nothing to do with me choosing him.

[The Phantom]

Since when the phuck are either of my suggestions "pop stars". They're critically acclaimed up and coming leading men. Mekhi was an amateur rapper growing up in Harlem but as far as I know never released an album or anything.

T'Challa became king offically before he was a teenager. That's when Klaw killed his father. He really took over actively when he came back from extended college and I believe graduate education in Europe. Since both of my suggestions are around thirty, they can still play mid-to-late-20's and still be getting used to the king duties and responsibilites. Jai White in his late 30's cannot. And he is not as good an actor as they are. He was not "Great" in Spawn. He yelled most of his lines and really didn't do anything impressive.
Aight, I can see where your coming from. I haven't read the comics but I've read stuff about BP. But as far as Spawn goes, Jai White was awesome.

[BT18]

I'm talking character here, not size. I mean last I checked Wolverine wasn't 6'2. Mekhi is a good actor, and he has the right size but being a good actor does not mean you can automatically pull off every role...I guess I can see where you're coming from with the choice, it's just that imo there are better choices out there...and since I own Amistad on DVD, after watching that I can't help but see Honsou as T'Challa. To me he's perfect for the role, wether the actor's from Africa or not. That has nothing to do with me choosing him.

It's not a coincidence that he's the only famous actor in Hollywood who's native African and he gets suggested more than any other for an African role. I own Friday Night Lights and the Dawn of the Dead remake on DVD and I can help but see Mekhi and Derek Luke in the role. I don't think the movie would work as well with someone late 30's/early 40's.

Oh, and it is not a universal agreement that having Wolverine be retought as a tall dark and handsome leading man was a good decision. It isn't.

[Darthphere]

Actually I think it was, whos gonna believe that Jean Grey has a thing for a 5'3 hairy guy with claws?

[BT18]

Aight, I can see where your coming from. I haven't read the comics but I've read stuff about BP. But as far as Spawn goes, Jai White was awesome.

Well, most critics, professional and amateur thought Spawn was the lame movie I also thought it was, and I've never seen any caveats that White's performance was any good from said critics.

[BT18]

for the people saying Derek Luke looks too "boyish". Here's Derek AKA Boobie Miles in the opening scenes of Friday Night Lights. Capped from a bootleg. Don't know how to make caps from my DVD player. So sorry for the bad quality.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1949/dereklukefnl7cb.jpg

[The Phantom]

Well, most critics, professional and amateur thought Spawn was the lame movie I also thought it was, and I've never seen any caveats that White's performance was any good from said critics.
I don't base my opinions on the opinions of others, especially of they are the ones getting paid to have opinions.

[BT18]

I don't base my opinions on the opinions of others, especially of they are the ones getting paid to have opinions.

Nor should you, not soley anyway, but it was stated, I believe. He WAS great, not I "think" he was great.

[BT18]

ok, the exact quotes were "He was awesome as Spawn, that cannot be denied" and "Jai White was awesome".

Hence my denying that and referencing others who have denied that indirectly.

[BT18]

Actually I think it was, whos gonna believe that Jean Grey has a thing for a 5'3 hairy guy with claws?

I don't think he should have been 5' 3". But I also don't think he should have been rewritten as the tall dark, handsome, and ultimately puppydog-guy rethinking of the character.

They could have gone with someone who was on the short side, maybe about the same height as Jean, 5'7 or 5'8 (if they had gotten the Jean casting right as well and she wasn't being played by a 6 foot tall chick) and made him the supporting role he should have been. It should have been a role for a character actor in a character part. Not THE Lead. Like it or not the fact is that for the most part, the first 2 X-Movies were all about Wolverine.

[The Phantom]

Nor should you, not soley anyway, but it was stated, I believe. He WAS great, not I "think" he was great.
Oh c'mon, don't play word games. I don't have to say "I think" for it be my opinion.

[Darthphere]

I don't think he should have been 5' 3". But I also don't think he should have been rewritten as the tall dark, handsome, and ultimately puppydog-guy rethinking of the character.

They could have gone with someone who was on the short side, maybe about the same height as Jean, 5'7 or 5'8 (if they had gotten the Jean casting right as well and she wasn't being played by a 6 foot tall chick) and made him the supporting role he should have been. It should have been a role for a character actor in a character part. Not THE Lead. Like it or not the fact is that for the most part, the first 2 X-Movies were all about Wolverine.


Ultimately, the problem isnt that they cast a tall dark handsome Wolverine, its the fact that they made him the lead and main focus of both films. If they hadnt done that the fact that they changed Wolverine like that would not have been as big a problem.

[BT18]

Ultimately, the problem isnt that they cast a tall dark handsome Wolverine, its the fact that they made him the lead and main focus of both films. If they hadnt done that the fact that they changed Wolverine like that would not have been as big a problem.

No, Ultimately, BOTH are problems in my and many others opinions.

[Chris Wallace]

This guy must be Black Panther! At at all costs! He was awesome as Spawn, that cannot be denied, so he has the superhero movie experience. Plus he's got this kingly aura about him and an interestingly sounding voice that would only add to the awesome awe of Black Panther. AND he's black belt in seven different forms of Martial Arts. So his fighting and gravity-defying scenes won't be so cumbersome as Keanu Reeves was in the Matrix.
http://www.completemartialarts.com/whoswho/pictures/images/mjw7.jpg
8 years ago I would've agreed.

[Chris Wallace]

for the people saying Derek Luke looks too "boyish". Here's Derek AKA Boobie Miles in the opening scenes of Friday Night Lights. Capped from a bootleg. Don't know how to make caps from my DVD player. So sorry for the bad quality.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1949/dereklukefnl7cb.jpg
I still think he looks too boyish & just not right for the part, imo.

[BT18]

I THINK it's stupid to start telling a characters story when he's 40 or pushing it when there's no reason to.

[Darthphere]

No, Ultimately, BOTH are problems in my and many others opinions.


Who are these many? From what ive seen Wolverine is what people like the most of the X-Men movies. You guys must be a vocal minority.

[Chris Wallace]

I THINK it's stupid to start telling a characters story when he's 40 or pushing it when there's no reason to.
I'm not saying the Panther has to be old; but a 20-something neophite learning the ropes is not the T'Challa I grew up on.

[The Phantom]

Like I said, never read him, but I always imagined him to be mature for his age. Am I on the mark? There's a Jack Kirby Black Panther graphic novel at Borders, and I would get it, but I don't have the cash. Most likely I'll try to order it online.

[Chris Wallace]

I don't think T'Challa has ever even been shown in his 20's. And we've had 30-something superheroes before. They don't all have to be fresh out of high school.

[BT18]

neither of the actors I suggested are in their 20's.

[Chris Wallace]

Forgive my ignorance, but who were your suggestions?

[BT18]

Mekhi Phifer and Derek Luke

[Chris Wallace]

Ok. Not feelin' either of those.

[BT18]

that's great. I don't "feel" the guy who everyone picks because he's the only famous native african male actor in Hollywood.

[Darthphere]

I was thinking, I remember saying this guy would be a good Luke Cage a while back but I think he would work as Black Panther as well. But probably not the best choice ill admit.

Roger Cross-seen this guy on 24

http://re2.mm-b1.yimg.com/image/916086503

http://re2.mm-b1.yimg.com/image/560506521

http://re2.mm-c1.yimg.com/image/1134199939

http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/v_cross_01,1.jpg

[Chris Wallace]

Haven't seen him act.

[Chris Wallace]

that's great. I don't "feel" the guy who everyone picks because he's the only famous native african male actor in Hollywood.
Maybe that's not the only reason.

And for the record, I like Mekhi. I'm just not sure he'd be a good fit for this role.

[The Geek Vault]

I've heard mention of a Black Panther movie. Who do you think should play the black panther? Also who should be the villain or villains? If there is also a thread on this can someone direct me?

[Riggs15382]

sorry, cant help ya out

[IronLion]

if they go for it, they should have massive star power behind it. so imo it should be will smith. could be a summer blockbuster.

[The Geek Vault]

If you saw the island the leader of the bad guys who was black would be cool, Will smith um idk. As for the villain i'm thinking klaw and maybe like a indiana jones kinda thing with the King Solomons frogs.

[The Geek Vault]

I think that Lawerence Fishburg or Samual L. Jackson would make a good T'chaka

[dpm07]

I think that Lawerence Fishburg or Samual L. Jackson would make a good T'chaka

Fishbourne would really be an interesting pick. That's one guy I've never thought of, but it is definitely a man who would bring a strong sense of nobility and regality to T'Challa. I could definitely see it.

Samuel L. Jackson, I don't see. He can do many age defying roles, and there's definitely a possible super hero role out there for him, but I don't see it as T'Challa. Given a choice, I think he'd make a better Nick Fury. I don't often agree with having one person of color play a white character, and vice versa; However, he's definitely a man who could make me forget Nick Fury is white. Jackson's just that good.

[U.S War Machine]

fishburn and Jackson aren't buff enough. Black Panther is suppose to be buff.

[The Question]

Fishbourne would really be an interesting pick. That's one guy I've never thought of, but it is definitely a man who would bring a strong sense of nobility and regality to T'Challa. I could definitely see it.

Samuel L. Jackson, I don't see. He can do many age defying roles, and there's definitely a possible super hero role out there for him, but I don't see it as T'Challa. Given a choice, I think he'd make a better Nick Fury. I don't often agree with having one person of color play a white character, and vice versa; However, he's definitely a man who could make me forget Nick Fury is white. Jackson's just that good.

He was saying T'Chaka. T'Chala's father, and the Black Panther before him.

[dpm07]

He was saying T'Chaka. T'Chala's father, and the Black Panther before him.

You're right. Sorry about that. I just noticed it too.:0

However, I am humbly going to stand by my decision on Fishbourne for T'Challa. In regards to T'Chaka, I could see Samuel L. Jackson doing that role.

My personal dream choice for T'Challa would be Djimon Hounshou, but I don't know if Hollywood would find that feasible.

[The Geek Vault]

For Klaw I'd choose (idk why) the guy from law and order Criminal Intent
http://www.ctv.ca/archives/CTVShows/img2/Programs/240/LOCI_donofrio_240.jpg

[The Geek Vault]

As for T'challa idk really what are your thoughts

[Darthphere]

You know, theres a search button for a reason.

[The Geek Vault]

what do u mean Darth

[Philly Phanboy]

if they go for it, they should have massive star power behind it. so imo it should be will smith. could be a summer blockbuster.

Will Smith is always thought of as being in comedies, but people forget the great work that he did in the Ali biopic. Not a bad suggestion. :up:

[BT18]

DUPLICATE PHUCKING THREAD !
DO A SEARCH BEFORE YOU START ONE
"BLACK" OR "PANTHER" OR
"BLACK PANTHER" WILL SUFFICE FOR A
SEARCH IN THE TITLE LINE IN THIS
FORUM....................... THANKS

[BT18]

please press the alert and ask them to delete or merge this thread.

The words above were sorta in reaction to the fact that people who aren't newbs are responding as if this wasn't a dupe.

[The Geek Vault]

Sorry BT18 didn't know there was another thread I'll do that then.

[BT18]

it's ok here's the big Panther thread. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183046&highlight=panther

[The Geek Vault]

Thanks man

[The Geek Vault]

I think that the guy from the island the general guy should play T'challa. I think that Lawerence FishBurg should play T'chaka. And http://www.ctv.ca/archives/CTVShows/img2/Programs/240/LOCI_donofrio_240.jpg This guy should play Klaw.

[BT18]

DUPLICATE PHUCKING THREAD !
DO A SEARCH BEFORE YOU START ONE
"BLACK" OR "PANTHER" OR
"BLACK PANTHER" WILL SUFFICE FOR A
SEARCH IN THE TITLE LINE IN THIS
FORUM....................... THANKS

[BT18]

I have no idea who Lawerence FishBurg is. I didn't see the Island but I assume you're talking about Djimon Hounsou. He's the most popular choice for the role, which I don't support. And Vincent D'onofrio is the guy in your pic. I don't really know about that. I say they should stick to Klaw being Dutch and who knows if Vincent could pull that off. He's not a bad choice though. Actually probably pretty good, not who I'd pick though. I've suggested Brad Pitt though so obviously I'm going out on a longshot of a notion. I just think it would be cool with his new focus on Africa if he got involved with this movie and took the offbeat choice of playing the villain in a superhero movie when people expect Pitt to play the title star.

[The Geek Vault]

I think he could pull it off. He does a lot of funny hand gestures which if you put in a claw would look very evil. The way he acts would be very interesting as Klaw.

[Chris Wallace]

I think that the guy from the island the general guy should play T'challa. I think that Lawerence FishBurg should play T'chaka. And http://www.ctv.ca/archives/CTVShows/img2/Programs/240/LOCI_donofrio_240.jpg This guy should play Klaw.
The "General guy" is Djimon Hounsou, who is the subject of much debate on this thread already.

[Chris Wallace]

Will Smith is always thought of as being in comedies, but people forget the great work that he did in the Ali biopic. Not a bad suggestion. :up:Yes, it is. I like Will, but I don't see him pulling this off.

[spider-jide]

Lets be honest, they'll either cast a relatively unknown actor or Hounsou for this role. Although, for some reason as much as I dont want this to happen, I keep thinking they'l cast Morris Chestnut.

[BT18]

Lets be honest, they'll either cast a relatively unknown actor or Hounsou for this role. Although, for some reason as much as I dont want this to happen, I keep thinking they'l cast Morris Chestnut.

If you replaced the word "honest" with "baseless" you'd have an acurate statement

[spider-jide]

Um no.

What I said is exactly the sort of thing the studio will do when casting BP. When extrapolating whats been done before in the past with superhero movies and names being attached to these movies, the outcome is predicatbly always the same.

Just remember my post when official announcements are made and I'll be here to tell you I told you so.

[BT18]

defending baselessness with more baselessness. Tis the way of "Spider-Jide"

[Chris Wallace]

Lets be honest, they'll either cast a relatively unknown actor or Hounsou for this role. Although, for some reason as much as I dont want this to happen, I keep thinking they'l cast Morris Chestnut.
Unlikely. Star power is virtually nonexistent when it comes to superhero movies nowadays.

[spider-jide]

Thats why I said there is the possibility of casting a relatively unknown actor.

[Son Of Logan]

Another suggestion for T'Chaka for everyone to dicuss and BT to shoot down...
http://www.cinema24.ch/images/casts/isaachdebankolé.jpg
http://www.cypressfilms.com/cherryweb/pics/isaach_de_bankole.jpg

Isaach De Bankole

Seen in Ghost Dog, The Skeleton Key, Coffee & Cigarettes, and The Killing Zone.

[dpm07]

While my personal favorite for the role would be Djimon Honshou. What about Gary Dourdan of CSI? He does have a piercing look to him, and is a fair actor, with a sleek physique who might be an interesting choice.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0235427/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0235427/)

The thing with Djimon Honshou is that he really carries forth the elegance and grace of African nobility in many of his roles. He's basically played T'Challa in a lot of roles in his own way, and I think he'd be a strong choice for the position.

Yet another candidate might be Bokeem Woodbine. This is a role that could showcase his versatility as an actor.

Tyrese is yet another option. Tyrese was really good in Four Brothers and showcased a quiet strength. He also illustrated his Marine intelligence in the film.

[The Geek Vault]

I could see Gary Dourdon being T'challa's assitant one of the gov or Wakanda maybe his brother (Didn't he have a brother). Can someone show me what Djimon Honshou. Whats he in? Also who has he played in the films as in hero villain side kick comic side.

[BT18]

I could see Gary Dourdon being T'challa's assitant one of the gov or Wakanda maybe his brother (Didn't he have a brother). Can someone show me what Djimon Honshou. Whats he in? Also who has he played in the films as in hero villain side kick comic side.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005023/

He's been in a few really great movies no self respecting movie buff should go without having watched.

Amistad
Gladiator
and In America

He's pretty much the only substantially famous native African black actor in show biz.

[The Geek Vault]

OOOOOO, hahha thats the guy from the island so thats who I want.

[Son Of Logan]

I would make a case for Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje being a popular African actor as well. He's been in Oz, Ace Ventura 2, The Bourne Identity, & The Mummy Returns.

http://www.eworlds.f9.co.uk/users/snailuk/gallery/us/adewale/adewale01.jpg http://filmfreak.be/fvdm/09-002bourneid/adewaleakinnuoye-agbaje.jpg http://www.eworlds.f9.co.uk/users/snailuk/gallery/us/adewale/ade1.jpg

[Hypestyle]

hmm.. i hope the film gets attached to a big studio.. Lion's Gate just isn't big enough..

[dpm07]

hmm.. i hope the film gets attached to a big studio.. Lion's Gate just isn't big enough..

People used to say that about New Line Cinema until a little trilogy came out.

[BT18]

hmm.. i hope the film gets attached to a big studio.. Lion's Gate just isn't big enough..

Lion's Gate definetly does not have the rights or is in the process of getting the rights for this movie.

I think it's pretty difficult to doubt that it will get made through the new Marvel/Paramount deal.

[dpm07]

One actor no one has considered, and a role which could rejuvenate his career is Todd Bridges. He's affordable, and recently played an FBI Secret Service agent in the film Alien Express with Lou Diamond Phillips. Bridges looks like he's been working out a lot, and has really bulked up

He wouldn't be my first choice. Mine would be Djimon Honshou, but some people might be willing to give Todd Bridges a chance in the role. It would really help his career get on track.

[Darthphere]

Whatcha talking about Willis?

[dpm07]

Whatcha talking about Willis?

LOL! :D

[spider-jide]

I would make a case for Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje being a popular African actor as well. He's been in Oz, Ace Ventura 2, The Bourne Identity, & The Mummy Returns.

http://www.eworlds.f9.co.uk/users/snailuk/gallery/us/adewale/adewale01.jpg http://filmfreak.be/fvdm/09-002bourneid/adewaleakinnuoye-agbaje.jpg http://www.eworlds.f9.co.uk/users/snailuk/gallery/us/adewale/ade1.jpg

My Nigerian bruddah would be good in a BP movie but I dont think he's right for the BP character.

[Chris Wallace]

I would make a case for Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje being a popular African actor as well. He's been in Oz, Ace Ventura 2, The Bourne Identity, & The Mummy Returns.

http://www.eworlds.f9.co.uk/users/snailuk/gallery/us/adewale/adewale01.jpg http://filmfreak.be/fvdm/09-002bourneid/adewaleakinnuoye-agbaje.jpg http://www.eworlds.f9.co.uk/users/snailuk/gallery/us/adewale/ade1.jpg
Nah-not as T'Challa. Killmonger, maybe.

[The Geek Vault]

What does killmonger look like?

[Muze]

Nah-not as T'Challa. Killmonger, maybe.

i think he'd make a better T'chaka than Killmonger. that guy from 'Andromeda' (Keith Hamilton Cobb) should play Killmonger imo. not because he looks like Eric but because he'd make a good villain/physical match for whoever plays Tchalla.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0167788/photogallery

oh and this is what Killmonger looks like for whoever asked...
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=11028488140%2016
and
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=11028488140%2018

[dpm07]

Todd Bridges could also play an assistant to T'Challa, if he were not chosen for the part of T'Challa. He played an FBI Secret Service Agent in the epic sci-fi independent art film called Alien Express. Lou Diamond Phillips was the star, but Todd Bridges basically stole every scene he was in, and he has been bulking up. Maybe it's for a role.

[HighVoltage]

So where is the last News about Black Panther The Movie?

[BT18]

What does killmonger look like?

google is your friend

http://images.google.com/images?q=killmonger&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wi

[The Geek Vault]

thanks for the pics. I personally would like to see Klaw as the villain with him convincing killmonger to betray wakanda.

[The Geek Vault]

Hey I got a good question. What kinda figures would you want to see with the movie? (I know I'm getting ahead of myself but hey) I'd want to see a bp that had a removable helmet. And the bp sky bike. and a klaw with some button on the back that made the klaw spin.

[BT18]

I just realized that my pick for Black Panther (one of the 2 anyway) played a member of the Permian PANTHERS in a recent movie and my pick for his love interest is starring in the upcoming Pink PANTHER.

Wow I just blew your mind. Trust me, you may not be aware of it, but I did.

[Chris Wallace]

Beyonce? I'd wanna keep her as far away from a comic-related project as humanly possible. She can't act, she's overexposed, she can't act, her presence in the film would make it nothing more than a publicity vehicle for her, she can't act...did I mention she can't act?

[BT18]

Beyonce? I'd wanna keep her as far away from a comic-related project as humanly possible. She can't act, she's overexposed, she can't act, her presence in the film would make it nothing more than a publicity vehicle for her, she can't act...did I mention she can't act?

How do you know? Don't tell me you watched "The Fighting Temptations".

Didn't we already have this argument earlier in the thread. Or was it another person arguing with declarations as unprovable as they are subjective.

You can't stop talking about "tough sells" when it suits your "argument" for your personal preferences. But there's no bigger "tough sell" about a movie like this the less star power the cast has.

[Son Of Logan]

Beyonce? I'd wanna keep her as far away from a comic-related project as humanly possible. She can't act, she's overexposed, she can't act, her presence in the film would make it nothing more than a publicity vehicle for her, she can't act...did I mention she can't act?


It was me arguing against Beyonce, and I still agree with everything Chris Wallace said. Did he mention she can't act?

[BT18]

It was me arguing against Beyonce, and I still agree with everything Chris Wallace said. Did he mention she can't act?

He didn't respond about whether he'd watched one of her only 2 dramatic roles in a feature before judging her or not. Have you? Cause I don't know why anyone with good taste and any semblance of a life would watch either "The Fighting Temptations" or "Carmen: A Hip Hopera".

But I assume you haven't either, cause you've got to have better taste than that.

[Son Of Logan]

Well, I saw Carmen....trash. How they think that is going to become a genre is beyond me. And she was particularly bad. Admittedly, I've only seen pieces of Temptations, but I hardly believe her acting in that is gonna sway me after all the other horrible performances I've seen her do.

And a major point CW also brings up...if Beyonce is put in this does it become another drawn out r&b video? Oh, god! Will we have to put up with Destiny's Child singing the Black Panther theme song?!?

[Red Mask]

It would be expected. Putting Beyonce in the film might be as bad as having Britney Spears appear in X-Men 3.

[Darthphere]

Heres the real question. Why does BP need a love interest in the first place? I think its about time we move away from the mandatory love interest in every comic book movie ever made. For the most part, it doesnt add anything to the plot (Mary Jane being kidnapped in every movie when theres over a million New Yorkers that could be kidnapped instead) it generally slows the movie down and it only really serves to bring in the female audience who for the most part were gonna see the movie anyway, or were dragged there by their nerdy boyfriends.

[Chris Wallace]

Agreed. And how many movies do you have to see someone suck in to determine that they can't act? For the record, I saw 2: "Austin Powers" (The one where Myers plays everybody & constantly thinks about getting laid, & says "baby" a lot) & "Carmen". She can't act.

[BT18]

Well, I saw Carmen....trash. How they think that is going to become a genre is beyond me.

wow, you have worse taste in movies than I thought. How you didn't see it wasn't going to be bad from the getgo is "beyond me".

Admittedly, I've only seen pieces of Temptations, but I hardly believe her acting in that is gonna sway me after all the other horrible performances I've seen her do.

"All" these performances that exist apparently only in your mind ? She's only had 2 dramatic roles. Maybe you need to up your meds.

And a major point CW also brings up...if Beyonce is put in this does it become another drawn out r&b video? Oh, god! Will we have to put up with Destiny's Child singing the Black Panther theme song?!?

No, it does not become that, and Destiny's Child no longer exists.

[Red Mask]

Heres the real question. Why does BP need a love interest in the first place? I think its about time we move away from the mandatory love interest in every comic book movie ever made. For the most part, it doesnt add anything to the plot (Mary Jane being kidnapped in every movie when theres over a million New Yorkers that could be kidnapped instead) it generally slows the movie down and it only really serves to bring in the female audience who for the most part were gonna see the movie anyway, or were dragged there by their nerdy boyfriends.

Black Panther doesn't need a love interest in a movie. But the studios do want as many viewers as possible within its rating.

Money, money, money.

[Chris Wallace]

He didn't respond about whether he'd watched one of her only 2 dramatic roles in a feature before judging her or not. Have you? Cause I don't know why anyone with good taste and any semblance of a life would watch either "The Fighting Temptations" or "Carmen: A Hip Hopera".

But I assume you haven't either, cause you've got to have better taste than that.
So let me get this right; it's unfair for me to assume she can't act because she hasn't been in enough movies-although she sucked in the 2 I saw & apparently wasn't much better in the other? So should they give Mariah Carey more movie roles? She only sucked in both the movies I saw her in. Should Janet Jackson play Storm? "Poetic Justice" was only the worst movie ever. How about Whitney Houston? I'm not seeing your logic. Are you hoping that Beyonce will eventually becoms a good actress?
Furthermore, I don't believe in "star power". Big names do not equal big sales, or CINO would've been a hit. "Fantastic 4" has no real big names in it, & it's done well. t hasn't set the world on fire or drawn :spidey: -type numbers, but it's pulled a decent total DESPITE horrendous reviews. So there's no need for big-name eye candy. A film like "Black Panther" desreves a serious treatment, with real actors. Not that it requires a romance angle anyway. We saw African royalty trying to win the girl over in the '80s. I wanna see King T'Challa, not Prince Akeem in tights.

[Son Of Logan]

So let me get this right; it's unfair for me to assume she can't act because she hasn't been in enough movies-although she sucked in the 2 I saw & apparently wasn't much better in the other? So should they give Mariah Carey more movie roles? She only sucked in both the movies I saw her in. Should Janet Jackson play Storm? "Poetic Justice" was only the worst movie ever. How about Whitney Houston? I'm not seeing your logic. Are you hoping that Beyonce will eventually becoms a good actress?
Furthermore, I don't believe in "star power". Big names do not equal big sales, or CINO would've been a hit. "Fantastic 4" has no real big names in it, & it's done well. t hasn't set the world on fire or drawn :spidey: -type numbers, but it's pulled a decent total DESPITE horrendous reviews. So there's no need for big-name eye candy. A film like "Black Panther" desreves a serious treatment, with real actors. Not that it requires a romance angle anyway. We saw African royalty trying to win the girl over in the '80s. I wanna see King T'Challa, not Prince Akeem in tights.

:up:

[BT18]

You don't believe in "star power". I guess certain actors are just paid more than others, certain projects only get greenlit with or when certain actors get attatched, a heirarchy in general is acknowledged by every professional in the industry because they haven't been illuminated to "Chris Wallace"'s stellar debunking of it all with trusty old EXCEPTIONS. Red herrings.

[Son Of Logan]

You don't believe in "star power". I guess certain actors are just paid more than others, certain projects only get greenlit with or when certain actors get attatched, a heirarchy in general is acknowledged by every professional in the industry because they haven't been illuminated to "Chris Wallace"'s stellar debunking of it all with trusty old EXCEPTIONS. Red herrings.

No...what he is saying is that a big name does not always equal success. A lot of time people think "Oh, just put so-and-so in the movie and give them 20 mill and some options and this is a hit. That isn't always the case.

Frankly...this concerns me:

Black Panther
Directed by John Singleton
Starring Tyrese Gibson and Beyonce Knowles
Featuring Music By Snoop Dogg, The Neptunes, Lil' John...etc., etc.

[Chris Wallace]

No...what he is saying is that a big name does not always equal success. A lot of time people think "Oh, just put so-and-so in the movie and give them 20 mill and some options and this is a hit. That isn't always the case.


Exactly. More often than not it's quite the opposite.

[BT18]

No...what he is saying is that a big name does not always equal success. A lot of time people think "Oh, just put so-and-so in the movie and give them 20 mill and some options and this is a hit. That isn't always the case.

Frankly...this concerns me:

Black Panther
Directed by John Singleton
Starring Tyrese Gibson and Beyonce Knowles
Featuring Music By Snoop Dogg, The Neptunes, Lil' John...etc., etc.

If he had used the words "not always" or "not automatically" then what you stated would not be a revisionist excuse/lie. Well he didn't and that's what you've just done.

[BT18]

Let's just drop this whole Beyonce tangent. What was/were (both) your cast/crew suggestion(s) ? Feel free to cut and paste them from earlier in the thread. I know atleast one of you wanted Djimon.

[Chris Wallace]

If he had used the words "not always" or "not automatically" then what you stated would not be a revisionist excuse/lie. Well he didn't and that's what you've just done.
I didn't include those phrases b/c I think the instances in which they do are too rare to be reliable. In recent memory, most hit movies that had big names in their casts had a couple of other things going for them, (Read: were actually good) like :marv: . I think that for the most part, a movie succeeds or fails on its own merits regardless of how well-known the actors are. I remember a few years back I read a magazine article which talked about some actor salaries vs. the gross of the movies. How the most recent endeavors (at the time) of the likes of John Travolta, Arnold Schwarzenegger & Jim Carrey had all flopped. One-I forget which-failed to even clear the star's salary. Meanwhile, the Harry Potter, LOTR & Spider-Man films-all of which had virtual, if not complete unknowns in the lead-had made a killing. I really don't think that many people are gonna go to the theatre saying, "Well, so & so's in it, so I'm gonna see it regardless of whether it sounds good or not." This is why I say I don't believe in star power. Especially when it comes to movies based on a pre-existing story, you cast based on their suitability for the role.

[Chris Wallace]

New question: Cape or no cape?

[J-MAN_Begins]

no cape. in the comics right now black panther looks a little too much like batman.

[Chris Wallace]

But he had a cape in the very beginning. I am concerned about the Batman comparisons, though.

[Muze]

But he had a cape in the very beginning. I am concerned about the Batman comparisons, though.

the comparisons end when you consider that Panther rules a technologically-advanced kingdom, has heightened senses, and is a black man though. without the cape, he'd still look like Daredevil at night. so, in other words, i wouldn't let the existence of Batman interfere with T'challa's style. maybe it could be a short cape.

[Chris Wallace]

He wore a short one during Priest's run.
The other day I was wearing my bP T-shirt & a buddy of mine-a longtime comic fan-thought it was Batman. I was appalled. Another guy thought it was Spawn. This may be due to Panther's overall lack of exposure, though.
With the cape he looks royal. Add the gold accessories he has a tribal kinda feel.
Without it he looks sleek & stealthy, like his namesake.
I personally think he should have it but just not wear it all the time.

[Red Mask]

He can wear it in ceremony and lose it during battle.

[HighVoltage]

He wore a short one during Priest's run.
The other day I was wearing my bP T-shirt & a buddy of mine-a longtime comic fan-thought it was Batman. I was appalled. Another guy thought it was Spawn. This may be due to Panther's overall lack of exposure, though.
With the cape he looks royal. Add the gold accessories he has a tribal kinda feel.
Without it he looks sleek & stealthy, like his namesake.
I personally think he should have it but just not wear it all the time.


Yeah, that´s the problem, since anothers Comicbook characters have "Black" Costumes instead their original costumes.

Btw. My Favorite Black Panther costume for a Movie should be this one,even this cover look like a movie poster for me.:up: :up:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/high316/04.jpg

[BT18]

BTW, Derek Luke is currently playing an African character in an upcoming movie

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437232/

[Chris Wallace]

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[size=2]Yeah, that´s the problem, since anothers Comicbook characters have "Black" Costumes instead their original costumes.


I hope you don't mean Batman. He originally wore black. I think the blue came about courtesy of lazy inkers/lazy colorists, using blue to fill in more & more, as so often happens. He should've never been in blue.

[Chris Wallace]

BTW, Derek Luke is currently playing an African character in an upcoming movie

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437232/So? That doesn't make him T'Challa. Should Kool Moe Dee be in the running since he was in "Panther"?

[ObakeTora]

Djimon Hounsou is the only choice for Black Panther.
Hell yea! Fake African accents is so 90's